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WORST NBA GUESTS - Kenyon Martin, Antoine Walker, Olden Polynice & Cuttino Mobley · The Paulie & Tony Fusco Show

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  Speaker 2: get into the clips there, right, this first one, it's
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  Speaker 2: from the summer of twenty twenty four. All right, so
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  Speaker 2: this is when Team USA basketball somehow almost lost.
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  Speaker 1: To South Sudan.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we brought the former NBA big man Olden
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  Speaker 2: Polonies on to talk about it, and well here's what
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  Speaker 2: happened roll that Daylight World. Okay, Well, he's returning to
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  Speaker 2: the show for a second time, despite the first appearance
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  Speaker 2: being you know, I'll put this politely, a horrible train wreck,
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  Speaker 2: but that's we're going to start over.
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  Speaker 1: Glean, slate clean.
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  Speaker 2: He's one of the NBA's Yeah, yes, there you go, Olden.
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  Speaker 2: He's one of the NBA's all time iconic big men
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  Speaker 2: seven foot played for the Kings, Clippers, Pistons. Also one
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  Speaker 2: of the very first international basketball stars. Now he's a
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  Speaker 2: Fox Sports NBA analyst, just the perfect person to have
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  Speaker 2: on the show right now. So let's go ahead and
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  Speaker 2: bring him in, Olden, polonies, Welcome back, Welcome back, Golden.
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  Speaker 4: I still don't know how I decided to do this again,
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  Speaker 4: but thank you for having me back on.
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  Speaker 2: We may have gone a little time, you know, mainly
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  Speaker 2: on you, but exactly.
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  Speaker 5: It's on me. Well, you know it's on me.
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  Speaker 3: You were rude, okay, you know you didn't see things,
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  Speaker 3: were trying to didn't kind of seeing the right way.
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  Speaker 4: First of all, you should have known I wasn't going
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  Speaker 4: to agree, especially with that Eagles jersey.
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  Speaker 1: On Oh who do you root for? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: The Giants?
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  Speaker 2: Oh like we're supposed to know that. So what though
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  Speaker 2: we didn't bring you on in a talk NFL Olympic basketball.
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  Speaker 2: You know, maybe you shouldn't be producing sports. Talk to
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  Speaker 2: stay as a guest. But okay, we're going to go
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  Speaker 2: into basketball. Okay, Older, we can.
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  Speaker 4: Talk about Annie, we can talk about curling if you
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  Speaker 4: want to.
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  Speaker 2: We don't want we don't want to lose our audience.
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  Speaker 2: Stay on topic, old, Yeah, okay, all right, now you.
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  Speaker 5: Mentioned your my apologies.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, right, you mentioned you're a Giants fan.
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  Speaker 2: We understand why you know because I said, here I
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  Speaker 2: see her in your bio. It says you were born
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  Speaker 2: in Haiti, but then you grew up in the Bronx.
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  Speaker 5: Well, so tell us I grew up in Harlem.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, I went to school in the Bronx.
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  Speaker 1: So tell us between Haiti and Harlem, which was worse?
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, uh, I'm gonna say Haiti was a
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  Speaker 4: little bit worse than Harlem. Oh okay, I actually had
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  Speaker 4: I actually had indoor plumbing and Harlem.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I see. Okay, that is a big plus. That's
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  Speaker 2: a big plus. We bring this up for a reason.
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  Speaker 2: That's you know, you saw it old and just a
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  Speaker 2: truly stunning outcome in men's basketball team USA almost losing
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  Speaker 2: to South Sudan. Now when you look at this, break
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  Speaker 2: it down do you think the South Sudan team was
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  Speaker 2: so good because you know, they were literally the hungry
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  Speaker 2: A team.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, they were the hungry AT team.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they were the more determined team. They wanted
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  Speaker 4: to win more, but unfortunately they didn't and that was
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  Speaker 4: because of a bad had no call by the referees.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, Team USA wasn't great either, So you know,
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  Speaker 3: do you think the problem for Team USA is that
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  Speaker 3: all these soft modern athletes with their nutritionists and their
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  Speaker 3: protein bars, maybe less nutrition would be the way to
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  Speaker 3: go because then they could be hungrier to win to win.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I don't know about all that, but I
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  Speaker 4: just feel that personally, I feel that there's not much
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  Speaker 4: that these guys are playing for US. You know, the
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  Speaker 4: other countries they are playing for team pride, country pride,
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  Speaker 4: and for everything else. And I don't believe that our
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  Speaker 4: athletes are playing for the USA. I believe they're playing
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  Speaker 4: more for the endorsements and shoe deals and everything else.
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  Speaker 2: Right, I'm the Chinese, and the Chinese they go old
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  Speaker 2: and perfectly said. But you do know something about this,
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  Speaker 2: because we look this up. It said on your Wikipedia
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  Speaker 2: you did a hunger strike in nineteen ninety three to
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  Speaker 2: protest something or other.
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  Speaker 1: But the point of the protest is beside the point.
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  Speaker 2: The stats show that you had your best statistical year
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  Speaker 2: in the nineteen ninety three ninety four season. Do you
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  Speaker 2: think that starving yourself like that led the better output
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  Speaker 2: on the court? You know, you had that hunger, had
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  Speaker 2: that hunger.
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  Speaker 4: I can't Oh my god, Yes that's what it was.
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  Speaker 5: No, that's not it. Okay, Oh oh okay. I was getting.
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  Speaker 4: Minutes, and you know I just played a really solid
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  Speaker 4: season also, and then.
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  Speaker 1: It's on the corner in the cafeteria. Where were you
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  Speaker 1: getting the minutes on the court.
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  Speaker 5: I was getting the minutes.
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  Speaker 4: I had a good sidekick and Bill Lambiert, So it
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  Speaker 4: allowed me the freedom to do more. You know, I
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  Speaker 4: didn't have to play center all the time. That's all
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  Speaker 4: it was.
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  Speaker 3: So what you're saying is that you were hungry for
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  Speaker 3: this new opportunity.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but not for food. I was just hungry for rebounds.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that your career went downhill though after
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  Speaker 2: that when you started eating?
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  Speaker 1: I can't with you guys asking a serious question.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, hey man, let me tell y'all something, man, this
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  Speaker 4: show is very interesting.
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  Speaker 5: All right, number one, I eat before games. I'm well fed.
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  Speaker 4: My determination was the reason I got my rebounds and
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  Speaker 4: scored the points.
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  Speaker 5: That had nothing to do with anything else.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, when I went under hunger strike, I did that
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  Speaker 4: to protest the US policies. But I was you know,
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  Speaker 4: I went ten days without eating and it was rough,
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  Speaker 4: you know. And still try to play back except on.
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  Speaker 1: The scoreboard, great score, great in the status.
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  Speaker 5: Ht me alone about this eating thing I've eaten?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, you know, but older us, there's food.
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  Speaker 2: Leads to another question, because you're such a great role
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  Speaker 2: model for us. Okay, yeah, you know you have a
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  Speaker 2: sudden You have a son who plays ball at Lost
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  Speaker 2: Beach State, right Chase Polonies? Now, first question, why didn't
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  Speaker 2: you name your son youngin Polonies? Yeah? It seems like
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  Speaker 2: a total missed opportunity and young.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah that's horrible.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, because I would never do that to my child.
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, who did it to? Who called you olden?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what were they? What was going on there?
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  Speaker 5: A great name? Yeah? Okay, so y'all need to stop.
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  Speaker 4: See now now you mean disrespectful to my parents name.
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  Speaker 1: It was a great name.
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  Speaker 4: If you did your research, you would know where my
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  Speaker 4: name came from. Okay, there's a slight change in my name,
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  Speaker 4: kind of like a chem Olajuan used to be a
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  Speaker 4: k E E M. And then he went back to
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  Speaker 4: the original with the age. I was the same way.
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  Speaker 4: I just never went back to the original. H. So
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  Speaker 4: you are I was holding? I was named after William Holding,
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  Speaker 4: the actor that was my grandfather's favorite act.
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  Speaker 3: Wow from The Godfather.
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  Speaker 1: Hit that breaking news button.
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  Speaker 4: Wow here first, William William Holden was never in The Godfather.
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  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, William Holding the drunk actor. We're sending
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  Speaker 1: this to the poets. Hey, alright, you.
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  Speaker 4: Do not pronounce his so in my ear, I'm hearing
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  Speaker 4: all den all den, Oh, hearing the age.
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  Speaker 5: So I just started writing my name with an oh.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: See you learned something today. Congratulations.
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  Speaker 1: Well why did you name your son Chase? You're a
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  Speaker 1: fan of the bank or something.
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  Speaker 5: I actually do banking, Chase.
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  Speaker 1: See there you go.
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  Speaker 2: But you you you've been a defender of Bronnie James, right,
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  Speaker 2: and you know you tweeted something the other day.
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  Speaker 1: You tweeted, Uh.
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  Speaker 2: It baffles me that people have issues with Bronnie James.
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  Speaker 2: The young man has a dream to play in the
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  Speaker 2: NBA like his father. He worked his ass off to
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  Speaker 2: become a legit prospect. Yet folks have an issue. Grow
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  Speaker 2: up people, now, I don't think you understand Olden. Yeah. See,
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  Speaker 2: you said he plays like he wants to play in
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  Speaker 2: the NBA like his father.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't play like his father. He plays much worse
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  Speaker 1: than his father.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he stinks father.
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  Speaker 1: Than his father. He's like his father, his father.
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  Speaker 5: He's not good enough to be lebron lebron.
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  Speaker 2: But you you clearly said he wants to play like
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  Speaker 2: his father said it.
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  Speaker 1: Those are your words.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my god, I don't mean exactly like his father.
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  Speaker 2: And I was taking it back. I think you might
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  Speaker 2: be lightheaded. You might need to eat something. Look, listen,
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  Speaker 2: let me let's just take our advice. Old And you
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  Speaker 2: work for farther sports as an analyst. If you want
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  Speaker 2: people to trust your judgment, you need to do better.
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  Speaker 5: Here.
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  Speaker 1: Look at the camera and say, Bronnie give it up.
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  Speaker 3: Retire now, come on the camera, tell Bronnie to retire.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, okay, you know what, go to the.
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  Speaker 2: Regrigerator right now, because you know what's getting Olden, you
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  Speaker 2: won the shows, you shot the show We're not playing
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  Speaker 2: nice anymore. You're volume holding this show down? You should
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  Speaker 2: you holding this show down?
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  Speaker 1: Show? Is he off the line? Jay, hang up the phone.
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  Speaker 2: You know you should have never had him on the
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  Speaker 2: show again. Just a terrible attitude, terrible. He seemed really angry.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he did.
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  Speaker 5: Well.
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  Speaker 1: That was terrible, horrible.
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  Speaker 2: Although it does sound, Tony like our first interview with
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  Speaker 2: him was even worse. But do you even remember what
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  Speaker 2: happened in that interview?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it must be so bad that I blocked
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  Speaker 3: it out because I have no recollection wants to do
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  Speaker 3: no recollection anymore.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this commercial. All right, we're
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  Speaker 2: back with our worst of NBA guests. All right, this
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  Speaker 2: next clip, this is from twenty twenty four. All so,
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  Speaker 2: this time in May, during the playoffs, we had on
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  Speaker 2: former Celtic and Twan Walker. Just a terrible interview. You're
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  Speaker 2: about to watch it now. You have to remember this
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  Speaker 2: interview took place in a far off time when the
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  Speaker 2: Sixers were actually good.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even remember that, Tony, I.
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  Speaker 3: Know, you know, to be honest, I'm having trouble remembering
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  Speaker 3: that time period.
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  Speaker 1: Also.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very hard to remember, so just you keep
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  Speaker 2: that in mind when you're listening as we walk back
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  Speaker 2: down on memory lane. Here May twenty twenty four and
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  Speaker 2: Twin Walker roll.
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  Speaker 1: That clip satur light in the world. Okay, we'll admit.
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  Speaker 2: You know, this guy put together an okay basketball resume,
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  Speaker 2: you know, decent. Okay, he won the tourney while at Kentucky.
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  Speaker 2: He was a champion with the Miami Heaton two thousand
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  Speaker 2: and six and not with Lebron. So that makes it
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  Speaker 2: slightly easier to digest three time All Star known as
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  Speaker 2: a Celtics great, even though those two words really don't
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  Speaker 2: belong together. You can't be great and be on the Celtics,
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  Speaker 2: you know. Anyway, y'all, let's just get him in antwine. Walker,
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  Speaker 2: welcome back to the show.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks for having me. Guys, you got to you gotta
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  Speaker 5: add too. Though.
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  Speaker 6: I'm one of the one of the few players. I
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  Speaker 6: don't know the number. I used to keep up with
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  Speaker 6: the number. There's one one in college and pro now,
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  Speaker 6: so I speak, I speak as you know.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like a little.
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  Speaker 6: Different than everybody else. It's only about fifty or sixty
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  Speaker 6: of us. They won a championship in cars and pro.
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  Speaker 2: Have that conversation with your publicists first before you come
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  Speaker 2: on the show.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly, just know I'm on that list list, all right,
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  Speaker 1: He's right good, we've established that.
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  Speaker 2: And also we know you, We know your pr people
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  Speaker 2: are falling down on the job.
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  Speaker 1: We just stablished that though. Exactly. All right, Look, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to get.
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  Speaker 2: Into this six is nixt series soon. But you know
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  Speaker 2: something up top, we got to adre us with you.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the other day you made headlines when you
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  Speaker 2: came out and said the best Celtic scorer of all
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  Speaker 2: time was not Larry Bird but Paul Pierce. So that
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  Speaker 2: leads to my next question here. Has anyone from Boston
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: tried to murder you yet?
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  Speaker 5: No, not yet.
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  Speaker 6: But I mean I'm talking about pure a store that
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  Speaker 6: can go inside, outside, get to the foul line. We
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  Speaker 6: know Birds there, but Paul was a little bit and
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  Speaker 6: a little bit more athletic to Paul.
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  Speaker 5: Not that much though, that's a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Just so we're clear, when you were talking about scoring,
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  Speaker 3: were you talking about on the court or off the court?
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  Speaker 3: Because you know, I've seen Instagram videos with Paul Pierce
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  Speaker 3: and he's definitely a terrific scorer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does very well.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, court off, I'm talking on I don't know what.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Don't play it safe there. He's a media person.
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  Speaker 1: He's playing.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: You know, you probably don't want to remember, but you
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: did play for the Timberwolves at one point in your career.
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  Speaker 2: How confusing is it to you that the Timberwolves are
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  Speaker 2: now actually a good team. Does your brain have as
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  Speaker 2: much trouble processing that as everybody else's?
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  Speaker 5: Does I do?
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  Speaker 6: Because I knew that it wasn't a big free agent market,
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  Speaker 6: so I knew it was gonna be hard for them
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  Speaker 6: to like lure superstar there. But they've drafted well, we
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  Speaker 6: got to get them. Credit Carl, Anthony Towles, Anthony Edwitds.
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  Speaker 6: These guys have turned out to be all stars and
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: superstars in our league. They made a couple of great moves.
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  Speaker 6: I mean to acquire Rudy Gobert.
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  Speaker 2: About those great moves. Do you see what Mike Conley
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: did the other night running into his coach accidentally and
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  Speaker 2: knocking him out?
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  Speaker 1: You saw that?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? I did see that. Man.
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  Speaker 1: When you saw that, I was a terrialic.
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  Speaker 2: The thing back when you are on the Timberwolves, your
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  Speaker 2: coach was Randy witz More, one of the worst coaches
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  Speaker 2: in NBA history Looking back now, don't you think it
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  Speaker 2: would have been smarter you to maybe, you know, accidentally
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  Speaker 2: just run in through him and knock him out of commission,
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  Speaker 2: you know, getting flips on his back of something.
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  Speaker 6: No, we were terrible, man, My Minnesota days were bad.
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  Speaker 6: I was on a bad team, bad situation. They won
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  Speaker 6: a youth movement. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna throw
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  Speaker 6: Randy women under the bus like that.
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  Speaker 5: But the team was bad. The organization was going in
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  Speaker 5: a totally different direction. When I was there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we didn't say throw him under a bus. Literally,
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  Speaker 2: we just meant injured, you know, we met like, hurt
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  Speaker 2: his knee.
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  Speaker 6: No, I wouldn't hurt his knee. Randy was cool to me.
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  Speaker 6: He was cool. We just were We just were not
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  Speaker 6: very good.
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  Speaker 2: Okayna's going on there that made you not good?
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  Speaker 5: What happened?
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  Speaker 2: It was just kind of just being on the table.
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  Speaker 2: Wolves Was that the problem? Hold?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I think one it was too cold and I'm
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  Speaker 6: from Chicago and that that's a different type of cold
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: up there. But just obviously the youth movement. They were
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: in the youth movement. When I got there, I was
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: in the back end of my career. I wasn't trying
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: to be in a youth movement situation. I just come
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: and win the NBA Championship and playing for the Miami Heat.
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: I was not trying to go to a team that
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: was in a rebuild situation. So it was tough just
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: kind of going to.
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: That after leaving the Miami Heat and playing for championships.
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: So that's what made it hard for me.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that that to be tough, going from a championship
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: team to the Timberwolves.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Yea, what is that like?
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Is that like when you're you know, like in a
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: jacuzzi and then you get out and it's like super cold,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: and you know, your thing shrivels up? Is that how
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: that type of how that feels?
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: Yes? Like that? Okay, look, I would never look at
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: it that way, but it's something like.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Now you get yeah, all right, the guy wants to
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: know his thing will never shrivel up like that?
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Get okay?
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Week anyway, Look, you never played for the Lakers, but
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: you know, there's been a lot of talk about there
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: about this Bronnie James. Bronnie James. You know, everybody thinks
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: he's he wants to play with his dad. But oss
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: is dellas that now that Lebron is flamed out of
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: the playoffs in the first round, you know also us
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: to say Bronnie James is now having second thoughts about
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: playing with his dad. In fact, we hear he's openly
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: saying that he wishes Jamal Murray was his father, even
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: calling himself Jamali among friends. What is your reaction to
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: this just stunning development.
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: I think that's all false. I don't think that's none
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: of that's true. I think the only thing that's true
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: is I think Jamal Murray has had a dominated the
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: Lakers over the last couple of years. That and that's
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: that's actual facts. The Devin Nuggets have dominated the Lakers.
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: But I think leb Brownie would love to play with
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: his dad. I think it'd be it would be a
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: great thing. I don't know if it's going to happen.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: I don't know what sports, I don't know what it
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: does for sports. Just as a father from Lebron is
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: probably an unbelievable feeling to be in the same NBA
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: locker room playing alongside your son.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Such a shame. That's not gonna happen anymore.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's gonna hap. I don't think it's
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: gonna happed to.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Say the same thing, so good, the same There we go,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: There we go, we to the Timberwolves.
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: Well, no, I think I think Brianni needs to go
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: back to college. I think if Lebron, I think, if
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: Lebron wants to do right by his son and get
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: him ready and prepare to play at the NBA level,
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: and I think he should go back to college and
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: enjoy college. I don't think he's ready for the NBA.
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: He didn't start last year. He played, you know, well,
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: how mean minutes he played a game ten fifteen?
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Nobody knows. And I don't know. I never saw him.
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: I don't think he's ready yet. I think, you know,
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: he needs another year of college. I think he should
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: have an opportunity to enjoy college. It shouldn't be all
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: predicated on him making it to the NBA and enjoy college.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Planning playing the tournament, planning sixteen.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, exactly, go to a team with a better
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: chance of winning a title like Florida Atlantic, you.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Know, exactly university. Yeah there, but you.
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: Know what we could we could think about it felt
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: we could really think about. You know, that was kind
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: of I don't know if Lebron really that was the
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: decision because he was in California. But is that the
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: school he really wanted to go to. He was getting
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: recruited by everybody, right, you know what I mean? So
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: that maybe picked the wrong school, gets to the right
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: situation so you can enjoy college.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: And it's so smart too.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: If he plays like another three four years, maybe he
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: goes to grad school, plays an extra year. By then
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Lebron will have retired and he won't have to play
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: with them.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: There you go, Yeah, you're not lying.
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: Lebron is like the energizing money. It seems like he
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: never gonna retire. I just was reading this more than
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: watch his sports. I don't know if you guys saw that.
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: They're talking about maybe he gets another two three year deal.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: What is that? Just?
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Is that just with what depends? Like what is he
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: gonna he can?
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: No, he can he can opt out this summer and
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: become a free agent. So they were saying the Lakers
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: may sign him to another two three year deal after this.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: That would be great, sour Wow, wow, this is breaking news,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: breaking new break walker, breaking news, on his shoes. Bro,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: more terrible decisions by the Lake, by the Lakers there,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: you go, exactly, all right.
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: But I know that's I mean, he has that, he
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: has that option though he has like take fifty one
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: fifty two million that he makes next year, but he
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: can opt out and sign a new deal this summer.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Well, I heard that Brownie wants to opt out of
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: the family. So you know we're gonna have double moves here.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Exactly, Bro, I got that.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: I thought you want to.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Well, you know your source is different than ours, you know,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: beg to different. All right, let's move to the Sixers here.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: How impressed are you with this Sixers team? Antoine? You know,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: they go into Game five in New York truly hostile territory,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: the city descending into chaos, protests at that war zone
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: known as Columbia University. Wasn't this the most bravest under
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: pressure performance you've ever seen?
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Ye?
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: I don't know about that, but I thought it was.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: I thought it was a great performance.
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: And and we've we've all and you guys have done it.
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: I'm sure.
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: Uh. In the past, we've all criticized and b and
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: and his injuries and how he played the way guy's
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: gutting it out and giving this chance the team to win.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: We got to give him a lot of credit. So
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna don't. I don't want to. I don't
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: want to make might of that.
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: The fact that how he's playing, he's basically on one
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: leg and he's out there trying to will his way
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: through this series.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And the other thing he has is at home games,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: he has these nick fans showing.
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: So let me let me ask you guys about that though.
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: Since you bring that up, though, how do you feel
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: about that? How do how do they get those tickets?
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: Like that?
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: We got a great we got a solution for you
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: and Twine. Listen to what Tony came up with here.
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: Listen.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: So now we avoid this in the future, we are
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: introducing fan I D legislation. You know, if you need
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: a passport to enter our country, then shouldn't you need
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: a passport to enter a game? Make sure you're a
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: fan of the team, you know, we just simply have
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: the government check fans home addresses, social security numbers and
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: make them pass a written test, and that way we
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: can stop illegal fans from entering our games.
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: I don't like that, how about what you guys, stop
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: publicly going after the fans and telling them to come
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: out and support the Sixers. Just like you got your
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: Eagles jersey on, you got your Eagles background, support the
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: Sixers the same way.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Once you gotta start, we do. But if the Knicks
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: buy the tickets.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Migrating into games and stealing yours, what can we do?
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm pretty sure these tickets go on sale at
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: the same time.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: What's with y'all fans? Y'all wait around, y'all.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: You want to blame the fans.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: You want to blame the fans New York Will Yorkers
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: who come down. Yeah, first you know they're squatting our stands.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Then they're squatting in their universities. They're squatting all over
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: the squat and that's what they do.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: That back right now, you apologize to the Sixers fans
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: is not apologize to the best fan base in sports.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: I love the Sixers fans.
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: I love the passion, the passion you got for your
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: teams and how how you make it really difficult at
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: times to play in Filly.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: But the problem with you, guys, it's embarrassing a little
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: bit that you guys are Let the New York fans
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: come in and get these tickets.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: What's going on?
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: You know what's embarrassing?
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: You know it's embarrassing you coming in here, you because
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: you talk like that.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: And walker, well you're going to be walking right now.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: You're walking.
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: You ain't.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: The short row, so.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: Shad like you guys can have the constructive criticism.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: What don't you know a phone.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: On this guy?
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Is he off the line? Jay, hang up the phone.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: You know one thing we will never allow on the show.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: We will never mock the proud fans of Philly on
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: this show.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Never. That's something we would never do. Ever.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Well, that was all very rude of him, all around rude.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: That's why he hasn't been back on the show since.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: They're terrible, terrible mistake by him. All right, Don will
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: be right back after this break. All right, we're back
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: with our worst of now our next terrible guest.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: There.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: We're gonna go back two years now, Tony. This is
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: from May twenty twenty three. We brought on NBA legend
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Katino Mobley to talk about Jah Morant in that whole
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: gun situation which you amb but this was also when
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: the Sixers fired Doc Rivers. Well, now you know, Doc
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Rivers is killing another team right in front of our eyes,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: the Bucks. So that makes this all very relevant. You know,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: it feels like totally fresh content. It's gonna feel fresh
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: when you.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Watch, exactly, and just a great example of how recycling
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: is good for content and the planet exactly.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: This is just a great reuse of content here.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: So let's go back May twenty twenty three, Katino Mobiley
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: roll that tape Saturnlight. All Right, this guy native son,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: born right here in Philadelphia. Twelve year NBA that we
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: couldn't be more proud of. Of course six as we would
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: have been proud of.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: But we would have been much prouder plat for.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: The Rockets, the Magic, the Kings, the Clippers. Now he's
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: on Fox Sports as an analyst and he's also a
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: motivational speaker.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Wows a lot.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Anyway, let's bring him on Katino mobiley. Welcome to the show.
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: Guys, how you doing man hey.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: And you know, on the subject of how we do it,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: you know, we know you had a bit of a
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: hot condition. You know, that's what caused you to retire
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: from the league. You know, we have a reputation as
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: you know, we can be tough on our guests, very
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: tough on our guests, but within easy today he's get
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: scared of coming on the show. Some don't show up,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: like sometimes they don't even show up. So still we're
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: going to go easy on you. We don't want to
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: get you riled up all. We want the heart rate
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: to stay low, blood.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: Pressure down, We need that.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, exactly, Okay, So here's why we brought you
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: on today. Obviously, you played for the Orlando Magic in
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: two thousand and four, the year after Doc Rivers got fired.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Of course, you know in the last season that Doc
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: was there, that team, they finished an embarrassing twenty one
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: and sixty one but horrible. You came in, and so
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: did their new coach, Johnny Davis. They improved to a
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: highly respectable thirty six and forty six, which is good
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: for the Magic.
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when you showed up, tell us Katino, how relieved
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: in the building were people that you know, Doc was
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: finally out of there.
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: I don't know if they were relieved, man, you know
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: what I'm saying, Like, I, uh, twenty one games the
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: year prior and then I actually didn't want to leave
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: Orlando but I got into a little you know, bumping
• 27:52
  Speaker 8: the heads with Johnny Davis. When I left, we were
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: topping in Orlando. We were toping the East, one of
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: the top teams. And when I left, his guys didn't
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: make the playoffs.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Thought yourself, which is good. I like that, good ego.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: What was your beef with Johnny Day?
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: What happened? Was he worse than Doc Rivers? What was his?
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: Was he worse than Doc Rivers? This guy? No, Doc
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: wasn't bad. Listen, Docs never coached me. I think Doc's
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: a good dude.
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: But you know, as far as Johnny, you know, he,
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: Steve Reston and I were at that time, you know,
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: you know, back court of excitement for the NBA and
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: you know the team that we had. I you know,
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: I didn't want to share time with the rookies. And
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: you know the reason there was success on our team
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: at the time I was there. You know, Grant Hill
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: was coming off you know, injury and he's feeling better.
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: Dwhite Howard was a rookie. You know, he was coming
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: off the bench. We had a nice little team.
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: You know, he thought that the scheme and everything was his,
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: and you know, come to find out, the team broke up.
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: You know, it's kind of like it just wasn't what
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: it was when I left.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: So what you're saying there is that Johnny Davis is
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: equally a shitty coach?
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Is Doc just as much as Doc? Just follow Yeah,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: that's what it sounded like.
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: Listen. All I'm saying is we didn't go to the
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: playoffs the year. They didn't go to the playoffs the year.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: But you know, you know, just I got a question
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: for you since you played the game.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: You know, Doc Rivers, he's had like a twenty year
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: case of laryngitis.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: You can't understand the word this guy said.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I can't tell me as a player, how important is
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: it to actually be able to hear and understand your
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: coach when he's talking.
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, there you go, impersonation impression.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I screamed a lot when I was younger.
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 29:48
  Speaker 8: You know, I think Doc's are I think Doc, you know,
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: he's a very He's not a stand Ben Gundy. He's
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: not a Jeff Ben Gundhy, and he's very talented as coach.
• 30:00
  Speaker 8: But I just think the personality of Doc, he's not pushy.
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: So in not being pushy. People practice bad habits throughout
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: seasons and because you're not pushy, and you know, guys
• 30:15
  Speaker 8: just do what they want to do, and when it
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: starts to show in the playoffs and that's the that's
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: the bad thing about situation with that.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: One of the rumors that we're hearing with the head
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: coaching vacancy for the Sixes is former Raptors coach Nick Nurse.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: But don't you.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Think that would be a downgrade going from doc to
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: a nurse?
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: I mean they both won a championship. Doctor don't have
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: more championships than that.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But you know, as a man who suffers from
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: a hot condition, I just want to know, you.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Know, who would rather to see.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: You know, if they say the doctors out, here's a nurse,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: wouldn't that bother you?
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: Because nurses do more work.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Respect for nurses, yeah yeah, but you know you do
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: more work. This is a man who you have the
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: experience here. Yeah, you don't spit ole record, Yeah, you don't.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Just back to the Sixers. Yeah, you know, people are
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: saying the Sixers season was a failure, but when you
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: look at it, Joel Embiid won a title.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he won the titling title. A scoring title, it
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: is harder to win.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: You got to beat the six hundred people in the league,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: even people on your own team.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't you agree?
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Scoring title more impressive than the NBA title?
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: Get out of here? Are you serious? Are you guys
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: on dope for dog food? Yes?
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: You mind?
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Excuse scoring title? Yeah?
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: Scoring title on?
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Don't want you to get two upset?
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we could tell your blood pressure is like one
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: thirty six over eighty two.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Hold, bring it back?
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: Which one is dopeer dog food? Which one is it?
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: I'm trying to.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Find you kidding me? He had to beat out five
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: hundred players in the league. He doubled your score. Yeah,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Jorge Joe LMB. What was your career high in the
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: season sixteen? He had thirty two?
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, No, my career high the season is twenty two.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Was that heart beats? Heart beats? Twenty two heart beats
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: per season? Yeah, that's what we're talking here.
• 32:08
  Speaker 8: Okay, listen, I'm gonna tell you this, what how did
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: that work out?
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: But you being the scoring leader doesn't matter.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: We got a title already.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: What do you mean it doesn't matter, doesn't matter matter
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: you brought it up. This is a source subject for
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: you and can tell why because you never played for
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: the Sixers, right exactly?
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: You wish you wish you played for the six I.
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: Do not know.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I do not Yeah, you don't. He's getting a little agitated.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: We probably don't want to take it down enough. Okay, Okay,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: we're gonna do.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: We're gonna move to a better topic, a more a
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: more positive note for you. We want to talk about
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: how you almost got traded to the Knicks, right, and
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: then this was in the late two thousands, and then
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: they brought you in for a medical evaluation and they
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: found you had this heart condition. How glad at that
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: point were you for that heart condition? Do you go
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: back and think of the years of your life you
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: would have lost had you had to play.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: For such a terrible organization.
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: At the time. Dan h d'An TONI was the coach.
• 33:09
  Speaker 8: I wouldn't mind playing with D'Antoni, but I wasn't really
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: a fan of uh the guy Dolan, the owner.
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: I wasn't a fan of him.
• 33:17
  Speaker 8: So I think, uh, you know, I for me, truthfully,
• 33:22
  Speaker 8: I gotta be I should have been careful of how
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: I wish.
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: That one truth?
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: What should you have done.
• 33:28
  Speaker 8: I love New York. I love New York. I spent
• 33:31
  Speaker 8: my summers in New York. I love D'Antoni, but I
• 33:33
  Speaker 8: did not like the owner.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: He's a terrible, terrible right, all right, I see we're good.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I think we're a little calmer.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Now, this is okay, all right, I'm not afraid I
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: was gonna call EMT there for a second. Okay, we
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: were close. But now you know, we saw you on
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: this other show, Katino. You were talking about how Jah
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: morant Is is not being a good role model for
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: flashing a gun. But hold on here, I think you're
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: missing the point. Yeah, he lives in Memphis. The team
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: is called the Grizzlies. If there are grizzly beards running
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: around there, well, wouldn't it be smart to carry a gun?
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: The Grizzlies are everywhere.
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: No, it's not smart to listen licensed in a hoster
• 34:15
  Speaker 8: in the box.
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: All good.
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: I'm not saying you know you shouldn't carry your gun.
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, did you're you know,
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: your big influence in your role model?
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: What about about what about John Wayne?
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: You know, is he not a role model to you?
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Or Charles Bronson.
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: Charles Bronson, John Wayne that wish, Yeah exactly.
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: You wanted to be him?
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: You want to watch death Wish twelve. I said, oh
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: my god, what a guy here. He doesn't take nothing.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: So I want to be after world's number one sports catch.
• 34:52
  Speaker 7: And look at you and look at you now and amazing.
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: I love it.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I'm sensing a little look at you.
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: Now, You're not You're not fighting to fly right now?
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: Fly?
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? We take on the whole sports
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: world over here? You are? You? Are you get in
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: the next.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Time I see you, I'm gonna be right in my
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: fist right where the sun don't shine, because guess what,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: I guess what you're getting katinoed from the show.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: You're right of here. You're done, You're off the show.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: By see you put your We're hanging up the mobile
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: phone and you get eaten by a grizzly bear.
• 35:36
  Speaker 7: Don't put your bag in the back of something.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Get out of here? Is he off the line? Jay?
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Hang up the phone.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: I wish he was more like I guess last week
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: and you know, just didn't show up at all. Yeah exactly,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: that would have been way better. Well that was a
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: terrible interview, but horrible. At least he survived. I guess
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: that's good.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. You know, we didn't kill them, so
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: that's good. That's good. That's good by us, you know,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: because we're professionals. That's what we're exactly.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: All right, And on that note, we're going to take
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: a quick break. We'll be right back after this. All right,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: we're back there, wrap up our worst of NBA guests. Okay,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: we're still in twenty twenty three. We're going back now
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: to April twenty twenty three. Okay, we had on NBA
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: legend Kenyan Martin to discuss if the NBA was getting
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: soft because they, you know, they toss out players for fighting.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I mean we already know the answer to that.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Of course, the NBA is terrible.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: But by the way, when you're listen to this, okay,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: there's a whole section here where we discuss how much
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: the Houston Rockets suck. Okay, now, remember, yes, they still
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: kind of suck, but they actually sucked way much more
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: and more back.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: So if some of this content.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: You know, it feels kind of dated to you, well
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: that's because your brain is slow in the processing right, Yny.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: And exactly you're the problem and not the innovation.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Exactly, you're the problem. All right, So here we are.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: It's April twenty twenty three. In this clip, Kenyan Martin
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: rolling fus.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: Goal satellite woke.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: All right, This man number one overall pick of course
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: in two thousand played for the Nuggets, the Knicks, the Nets,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: where he went to two NBA finals. But of course,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: his biggest accomplishment we all know is his reputation for
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: being one of the toughest and fiercest players in NBA history.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Listen to this one hundred and five career technical foulsands wow.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: And more importantly and impressively, one of just three NBA
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: players since nineteen ninety nine the rack up six or
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: more flagrant thousand one season. Just terrific. There, So let's
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: bring him on the show. Kenyan Martin, the true legend.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome.
• 37:42
  Speaker 9: Those are stands I did not know, so appreciate you
• 37:44
  Speaker 9: sharing it.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: That's all we do. We do on this the type
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: of thing we do. You know, Kenyan, we don't need
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: to tell you this. These NBA playoffs they're a joke,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: you know, the refs throwing out players left and right
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: for bareley doing anything. You know, they're trying to make
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: the game about, you know, shooting and dribbling and rebounding.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: That's not what's about, you know, it's about trimbling on
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: the players in the name of competition, you know, intimidating them,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: threatening to permanently injured them, you know, which we were
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: so good at. You know, don't you think that we've
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: lost the soul of the game.
• 38:18
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I would agree we've lost the soul of the game.
• 38:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah I would. I would definitely agree with you in
• 38:24
  Speaker 9: that aspect. But but but permanently injured in someone probably
• 38:28
  Speaker 9: I wouldn't take it that far.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, maybe a few nights in the hospital, right, yeah,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: maybe not perm.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: You gotta walk the line. You gotta walk the line.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: You know, Daron like knockout Karl alone once, didn't you
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: see it, didn't you put the elbow to the head.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 38:44
  Speaker 9: Yeah, But no knights in the hospital though, what I'm
• 38:46
  Speaker 9: saying he went home to his wife and kids.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Well, that's disappointing that but you tried, You tried, you
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: know what, exactly, when you look at the way basketball
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: is right now, that it's so soft, does that make
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: you want to cry because they're kind of crapping on
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: the legacy of violence that you and so many of
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: your your friends and yeah, you helped create there.
• 39:05
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it had to this change because I think it
• 39:11
  Speaker 9: would be it would be out of.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: Control right now.
• 39:13
  Speaker 9: It was necessary. It was a necessary change, man, it was.
• 39:17
  Speaker 9: It was one of those things where if they didn't,
• 39:21
  Speaker 9: people were gonna stop tuning in and it was effecting
• 39:24
  Speaker 9: their bottom line. So changes, changes must be made.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: It wasn't a moment where you thought, all right, maybe
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: this has gone a little too far, maybe I might
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: have just broken a few laws.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Was there a moment like that for you?
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 39:39
  Speaker 9: Now, mine was a conversation. Oh, mine was a conversation
• 39:42
  Speaker 9: with the late great David Stern. I'm saying mine was
• 39:46
  Speaker 9: a conversation, not a moment.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: What happened in that conversation?
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: You know, did David Stern like lock you in a
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: room and punch you, like say hey, you know I'm
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: not for.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: This, knock it out, slap you across the face. What happened?
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: Would it's absolutely?
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, he was tough, David Stern. What do you say, Oh.
• 40:04
  Speaker 9: Yeah, no, no, you to cut it out like his
• 40:07
  Speaker 9: exa words, do you if you want to be a
• 40:09
  Speaker 9: part of this league, I suggest you cut it out.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: You know I used to have respect for Stern. I'm
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: losing respect for David Stern here, you know.
• 40:18
  Speaker 9: So therefore I walked the line like I walked the
• 40:22
  Speaker 9: line without without you know what I'm saying. I didn't
• 40:25
  Speaker 9: after that point there was no more in game fights
• 40:28
  Speaker 9: or anything like that.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: So I said, yeah, like I understood, I got to
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: miss it out.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: And Okay, you know, you seem I gotta say, you
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: seem kind of like, uh, what's the word?
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Kind of zen?
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Very, And I gotta be honest, it's a it's a
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: it's a little annoying, like you know, you're you're what
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: happened to the Kenyan Martin?
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: You know who was you know throwing around?
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: Yea?
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Carl Malone, you know making David.
• 40:55
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he's done.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: Deep deep down there.
• 41:01
  Speaker 9: Man, I've had I've had eight years to suppress that guy,
• 41:05
  Speaker 9: you know, have I retired in twenty fifteen, so I've
• 41:08
  Speaker 9: had eight years to suppress that that guy.
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: And not because at home.
• 41:14
  Speaker 9: I'm not hanging off the chandelier or I'm not threatening
• 41:16
  Speaker 9: the dog. And you know I'm cool, man, I'm not.
• 41:19
  Speaker 9: But like I said, I react the situation. You look
• 41:22
  Speaker 9: at it the only situation, Well.
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: Let me let me live.
• 41:26
  Speaker 9: The karmelone situation I initiate. But it was a retaliation
• 41:31
  Speaker 9: for some shit. Had nothing to do with me.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Right, you were getting them back for the knock and
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Isaiah Thomas to the first It had.
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: Nothing to do with Kenyan Martin whatsoever.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: But everything else is Thomas, thank you for that, you know,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: for Bloody and Karl alone, and send you a gift
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: basket of something.
• 41:49
  Speaker 9: Public actually did recently publicly on on the same podcast
• 41:54
  Speaker 9: that I told his story on. So yeah, no, but no,
• 42:00
  Speaker 9: I just wann't them situations, man, I was. I was
• 42:03
  Speaker 9: wired different when I played, and to the effect of
• 42:11
  Speaker 9: my respect went a lot longer and further than me
• 42:16
  Speaker 9: getting kicked out of the game or me fighting in
• 42:18
  Speaker 9: the situation. You know what I'm saying, I was all
• 42:22
  Speaker 9: I'm all about respect.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: I think you're missing the whole point there. I think
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Isaiah Thomas was trying to tell you something. He was saying,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: thank you for not respecting other people? How zen are you? Like,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: let me ask you something. Let's give you hypothetical. You know,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: now goes to McDonald's. They forget to put his fries
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: in the back. Do you like you okay? Or do
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: you through the drive through?
• 42:45
  Speaker 9: Might climb through the window, might climb through the window
• 42:49
  Speaker 9: because they because they from my son, and my son
• 42:52
  Speaker 9: didn't get his fries.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Ye But I'm for family, yea, but.
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: Not really deal it with my food.
• 43:01
  Speaker 9: So actually I'm going to be polite.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 43:05
  Speaker 9: They've been with my food, so now we're not gonna
• 43:09
  Speaker 9: I don't want the fry, I don't want the basket
• 43:11
  Speaker 9: of fries just fell on the floor and you scooped
• 43:13
  Speaker 9: to the side like we don't want those.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: So good point.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Good point. It did bring up your son. Let's talk
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: about your son quickly.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: I don't want to sally the mood here, but obviously
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: it's a it's a tough subject for you and your family.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm very sorry, we're all sorry about what's
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: happened with your son, Kenyan Martin Jr. You know, a
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: couple of years ago, very sadly of all the teams
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: got drafted to the Kings terrible enough, heart breaking. Even
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: more sadly, he gets traded to the Houston Rockets, you know,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: the most pathetic organization.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: And all of basketball.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: How are you helping your son through this tragic and
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: hopeless time for him?
• 43:50
  Speaker 9: Hey, listen, man, it was a it was a blessing,
• 43:54
  Speaker 9: and it was a blessing in disguise get drafted by
• 44:00
  Speaker 9: the Kings and day and going to Houston. No, man,
• 44:03
  Speaker 9: but just it's an unfortunate situation. But it's it's like
• 44:06
  Speaker 9: I said, it's a blessing for him to be living
• 44:08
  Speaker 9: out a dream and making a name for himself.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Man, And just a second, but you want to say
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: a bunch of.
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: Always like that? You know, ken.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: You example the problem with your situation.
• 44:25
  Speaker 9: Every situation ain't like that, man.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: I know this is a sole subject. But you look
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: at your son's stats. Of course, I'm talking about his
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: number of flagrant fouls. He only he only has one
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: flagrant foul and his entire three year Korea, Kenyon.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's your son.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: You know, as a father, do you tell him how
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: disappointed you are in him?
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: He's shaming the family. Now, how disappointed are you?
• 44:55
  Speaker 7: There's one right, It's only one right? Yeah, and that
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: was some bs.
• 45:01
  Speaker 9: So listen, hey, he's failing me. Tremendously. Man, Listen, I can't.
• 45:05
  Speaker 9: I don't know where to be getting to start.
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: Man, like you go.
• 45:08
  Speaker 9: He's not holding up the end of that I'm saying
• 45:09
  Speaker 9: of the last name. So I definitely need to have
• 45:12
  Speaker 9: a talk with him.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: Oh here's what I.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Want to look at the camera, Kenyan Junior, right now,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: say Kenyan, I'm so disappointed in how weak you are.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: I want you to step up and start bashing guys
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: in the head and play the game as.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: It's meant to be played. Make me some permanent injuries.
• 45:35
  Speaker 9: Yeah, see, I thought I thought we gotta pass the
• 45:37
  Speaker 9: permanent injury part of this coming.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Oh you want to be permanently injured? Yea, guess what?
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Come back to a little angry and next time because
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: you yes, you're permanently off.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: The show business Business show. Bring back the old Kenyan
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Martin and come back. He's welcome.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: You need a little less anger management this show.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: How dare you? How dare you? How dare you?
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Don't you're on the time machine and come back when
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: you're twenty Yeah, who wants to do some Bye?
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Is he off the line? Jay?
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Hang up the phone, Tony, I'm not one hundred percent
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: sure that was actually Kenyan Martin did not seem.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Like I'm not sure either. I don't know what who
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: that was.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: You know, that just summarized the problem with guests on
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: this show. We try to give advice and they don't listen.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Tonty exactly.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: You know, just like we give advice to everybody out there,
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: rate review the show, share.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: It with all your friends.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: So you as the guest, and go do what we said.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: So do what we tell you to do. You know, Tony,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: I just realized, you know, those were terrible guests, But
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: you know what was great about the show?
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: No producer correction. I mean, what do you what are you.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Going to correct? Silent exily, nothing, nothing. She just use
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: a clip of just him sitting there quietly. Every eight
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: that's there is exactly anyway why, Like Tony said, you
• 47:11
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• 47:31
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• 47:34
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