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ITB Week 2 Pregame Show With Greg Cosell: Philadelphia Eagles Vs. Tennessee Titans · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: philly fans 21 and up Hello, welcome to the Inside
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  Speaker 1: the Birds pregame show. I'm Jeff Mosher with Adam Kaplan.
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  Speaker 1: And of course, we got our man Greg Cosell who's
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  Speaker 1: going to help us break down all the tape, all
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  Speaker 1: the schemes, all the schematics, and the coaching philosophies of
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  Speaker 1: a week two game between the Philadelphia Eagles and the
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. The Eagles, of course, 1-0 after a 24-22
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  Speaker 1: win over the Commanders in the opener. And then the
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  Speaker 1: Titans fall to 0-1. They get embarrassed. by the New
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  Speaker 1: York Jets at home in their first game. So they're 0-1.
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  Speaker 1: And we got an interesting matchup, as always. We will
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  Speaker 1: talk about it. We will break it down, offense, defense.
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  Speaker 1: But as always, we start with injuries. And I got
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  Speaker 1: to say, Adam, I feel like almost every week since
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  Speaker 1: we've been doing a show, since in the Nick Sirianni era,
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  Speaker 1: we always open up, hey, the Eagles are a lot
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  Speaker 1: healthier than their opponent. Not this week.
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  Speaker 2: They are not.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the good thing is, though, although it looked a
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  Speaker 3: little shaky after Wednesday's practice and then there was the
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  Speaker 3: dreaded pop-up injury with Andrew Makuba. Drew Makuba.
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  Speaker 1: And Carter.
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  Speaker 3: On Thursday, right? And they had a couple others, which
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  Speaker 3: we'll get to. Elijah Moore was actually added. Not that
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  Speaker 3: he's going to play, but he was added. But the
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  Speaker 3: good thing is they only have two guys who were
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  Speaker 3: given a game status designation, which means doubtful, out, or questionable.
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  Speaker 3: And the only two guys who got it, Grenard is
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  Speaker 3: out again with Pectoro. He's getting closer. And Drew McCuba,
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  Speaker 3: who got hurt earlier this week, he was able to
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  Speaker 3: work someone on Friday, but he's questionable. He's still legit questionable,
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  Speaker 3: as I understand it. It's just going to be whether
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  Speaker 3: he can do his job or not. If not, it's
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  Speaker 3: Michael Carter, and that's kind of what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, already you get tested a little bit in the secondary. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Cooper DeGene was a full participant. We were actually worried
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  Speaker 1: more about him at the start of the week. But,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's obviously playing safety as well. Let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about the Grenard thing because it'll now be two straight
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  Speaker 1: games and he's out. You have to think that he
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  Speaker 1: should be ready to go if not week three, definitely
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  Speaker 1: week four, or else they probably would have put him
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  Speaker 1: on IR unless he's just not coming along at the
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  Speaker 1: way they expected.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and always look for the full listing because then,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they're almost certain barring setback to play that week.
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  Speaker 3: So until he takes a full practice, don't expect him
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  Speaker 3: to play. But he's doing more now. He's getting closer.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see exactly when he's ready. And then, yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: right now on Friday, we'll talk about that. It was
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  Speaker 3: the last practice of the week, of course. Hollywood Brown
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  Speaker 3: was added. He's got a hamstring injury, but he took
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  Speaker 3: his normal reps. He's available. He dressed but didn't play
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  Speaker 3: last week. Cooper Dejean with a calf and abdomen. Now,
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  Speaker 3: he had the calf wrapped on Thursday. Okay. But he
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  Speaker 3: took his reps. He took his normal practice reps. He's
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  Speaker 3: ready to go. A lot more added with a neck,
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  Speaker 3: but he's been clear to play. Jalen Carter, who had
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  Speaker 3: his wrist wrapped this week, he got hurt in the game.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to play now. The question is, is it
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  Speaker 3: going to be casted or would it be a wrap?
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  Speaker 3: There are two different ways to do it. Greg, let
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  Speaker 3: me turn it over to Greg here for a second
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  Speaker 3: because some people ask us this. I don't know because
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  Speaker 3: you didn't know that he was injured, but could you
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  Speaker 3: notice him hampered at all when you watched the coach
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  Speaker 3: tape Jalen Carter?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, no, I don't. I'm just watching the guy play.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't seem to me like he was refusing to
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  Speaker 2: use a hand, but I didn't know about the injury,
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  Speaker 2: so I wasn't necessarily looking for that in detail. We
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  Speaker 2: did speak about the fact that he did not play
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  Speaker 2: well and was handled a number of snaps by Samuel Cosme,
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  Speaker 2: but no, I couldn't tell. just being honest that, that
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  Speaker 2: there may have been an injury involved.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Cause you've told us over the years when you
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  Speaker 3: could tell if a guy, yeah, there's sometimes not all
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  Speaker 3: the time, right? No, but there are times you can tell.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. All right.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the case of the guys who are on
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  Speaker 1: the 53. Now the bigger issue, Greg, that we need
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  Speaker 1: to get into is that the Eagles will be without
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  Speaker 1: Landon Dickerson now for the first of at least four games.
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  Speaker 1: And Greg, I don't know if you heard Landon Dickerson
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  Speaker 1: talking on WIP about the injury, but He made some
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  Speaker 1: comment like, I'll be out for a little bit. We'll
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  Speaker 1: see how long. He almost made it seem like four
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  Speaker 1: weeks might not even be enough. It's a bone bruise
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  Speaker 1: that he said in his knee. We went into great
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  Speaker 1: detail on your show, Inside the Tape, on what his
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  Speaker 1: tape looked like. I'm more curious to ask you this question.
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  Speaker 1: Let's say Landon Dickerson was healthy. How did you feel
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  Speaker 1: in general about how he fits in? the offense that
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  Speaker 1: they are running in general with their wide zone now
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  Speaker 1: and the other things they're doing?
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  Speaker 2: I would say in an ideal world, he does not
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  Speaker 2: fit it exactly the way you want because he's a
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  Speaker 2: power player who's better in a smaller space. He is
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  Speaker 2: not necessarily a movement offensive guard to do the things
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  Speaker 2: that are usually demanded in his own scheme, particularly in
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  Speaker 2: mid to outside zone scheme, where you're going to have
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  Speaker 2: to climb to the second level track and second level
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  Speaker 2: players square up with excellent balance and body control and
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  Speaker 2: then block them. That's not the strength of his game. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I personally, again, I'm not saying he can't
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  Speaker 2: do it or he couldn't do it because, you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's other factors I'm sure involved from a coaching perspective.
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  Speaker 2: But I think just the way in which he plays
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  Speaker 2: and his body type, because don't forget, he's a very
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  Speaker 2: big man. I mean, you know, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: guards who are 315, 310 and they move really well.
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  Speaker 2: He's not that. You know, he's probably in, Adam, wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: you say he's more in like the 340, 345 range?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: They may have lost some weight, but yes. When it's
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  Speaker 3: not look great, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. That would be my answer, Jeff. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: We know Drew Kendall's going to start either guard or
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  Speaker 3: left guard or center. Now, see if I remember this correctly,
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  Speaker 3: because I was surprised when you said it, because you're
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  Speaker 3: just going by what you saw on tape. You don't
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  Speaker 3: do a lot of comparisons, but you thought he reminded
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  Speaker 3: you of the guy just retired, the center from the
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  Speaker 3: Falcons and the Bears, Drew Dallman.
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  Speaker 2: What year did he come out, Kendall? Two years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Two years ago.
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  Speaker 1: 2025?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm going to pull out my notes on him.
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember everything.
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  Speaker 3: Drew Dallman's a pretty good center, Greg.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he was smaller. So let's see. I said–
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  Speaker 2: I said, Kendall, given his physical and athletic limitations, may
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  Speaker 2: not be for every coach in every scheme, but my
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  Speaker 2: sense watching his tape is that I would not be
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  Speaker 2: surprised if he becomes a starter with more development and
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  Speaker 2: coaching and plays the OC position at a consistent execution
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  Speaker 2: level for many years. You know, I thought that, I said,
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  Speaker 2: while Kendall did not move D lineman in the run game,
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  Speaker 2: he was quick with his snap to snap with clean
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  Speaker 2: footwork and excellent balance and body control. and precise hand placement,
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  Speaker 2: and he worked low to high lifting and gaining leverage
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  Speaker 2: to sustain, especially on back blocks in the gap scheme
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  Speaker 2: run game, which obviously you're not going to see from
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles. He was featured on outside pulls in the
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  Speaker 2: run game in college. He had more than functional mobility
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  Speaker 2: with the balance and body control to line up and
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  Speaker 2: strike targets on the move, which is a big deal
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  Speaker 2: on this run game. So, yeah, I liked him. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there's a reason he's drafted where he was. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: but he is 6'4 and an 8'308. He's not a
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  Speaker 2: little man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you said in your report that you could
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  Speaker 1: see him becoming a starter, and I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you thought by week two of his second year, when
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  Speaker 1: he only played 80-some-odd snaps as a rookie, but this
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  Speaker 1: is what we're looking at here. I know the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: did some interesting things. They had Fred Johnson running at
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  Speaker 1: left guard while the media was watching, which could all
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  Speaker 1: just be fun and games for the media while they're watching.
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  Speaker 1: And the reality here, Greg and Adam, is even if
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  Speaker 1: drew Kendall can play well, this is a pretty perilous
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  Speaker 1: situation because now they're cam Juergens or Tyler Steen, or
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  Speaker 1: even drew Kendall stubbing his toe away from now you're
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  Speaker 1: on Willie Lampkin. And again, you're, you're just getting deeper
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  Speaker 1: onto your bench and you're only in week two.
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  Speaker 3: Greg, did you see Lampkin?
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  Speaker 2: Did you, do you know? I don't know much about
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  Speaker 2: Lampkin other than everybody, you know, loves him. Cause he's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, cause he's five, 10 or whatever his size is.
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  Speaker 2: He's fun to watch. You know, I did not see him.
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  Speaker 3: He, he, uh, After a slow start, he just was dominant.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, the joint practices, Jeff, it was kind of
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  Speaker 3: interesting because he's so short. He's under 5'11. You just
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  Speaker 3: don't think he could displace people, but he moved. I
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  Speaker 3: was like, wow. He was a high school wrestler. You
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  Speaker 3: could see that in him. But Jeff, I find it
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  Speaker 3: interesting how he didn't even work any offensive linemen out
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  Speaker 3: this week. Clearly he believes in Lampkin and Kendall, who
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  Speaker 3: they've developed behind the scenes for now for two years.
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  Speaker 3: So he's going young here. He's going young.
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  Speaker 2: For sure.
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  Speaker 1: I do wonder if they gave any thought. And I
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  Speaker 1: think it wouldn't be a good thought for now because
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  Speaker 1: you've been practicing a certain way all year. But if
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  Speaker 1: playing Markel Bell at right guard and then moving Steen
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  Speaker 1: to left guard where he has played before for the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles in, in when he was a bench player. And
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  Speaker 1: then even in, I believe there's a left tackle at Alabama,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, Tyler.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, again, I'm not, Jeff, I'm not an offensive
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  Speaker 2: line guru, so I don't want to sit here and
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  Speaker 2: act like I know, but Bell is six, nine. Normally
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  Speaker 2: guys that tall do not play guard. It's just, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and again, I'm not, you know, maybe someone would say
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  Speaker 2: you can do it, but rarely ever, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: think the tallest we've really seen at guard is six, six.
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  Speaker 2: and you just don't see guys 6'9. What was Becton?
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  Speaker 1: Was Becton not taller than that? I thought he was.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty– Becton, I think, was about 6'6. Okay, I thought
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  Speaker 2: he was a little taller.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. 6'9 is pretty rare.
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  Speaker 2: But also body type. I saw Bell at the O-Line Masterminds.
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  Speaker 2: I actually talked to him briefly. He's got the legs
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  Speaker 2: of a basketball player. He plays like an athlete, and
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  Speaker 2: he's so big and long that he's got some power
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  Speaker 2: just because of his length. But as far as playing
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  Speaker 2: guard where you really have to drive through people with
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  Speaker 2: a lower body strength, I'm not sure he's that guy. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if Jeff Stoutland may have considered that more
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  Speaker 2: I think they see him, and from everything I've heard,
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  Speaker 2: I think they see him as Lane Johnson, the heir
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  Speaker 1: the injury element of it, but then start to get
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  Speaker 1: into the preview of it. Jeffrey Simmons can be a
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  Speaker 1: game wrecker. He obviously was not a game wrecker against
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  Speaker 1: the Jets, although he didn't play poorly. It's just the
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  Speaker 1: defense did. But now he'll have a guy like Kendall
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  Speaker 1: in front of him. He'll move around a little bit too.
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  Speaker 1: Juergens had a couple of holding. Juergens wasn't exactly great
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  Speaker 1: last week either. How much can one person, in this
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's just look at last week first and then
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  Speaker 2: Last week I thought that the most surprising thing about
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  Speaker 2: the game, obviously I do Nashville radio, so all anyone
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: wants to talk about is Cam Ward, and we're obviously
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  Speaker 2: going to get to that. But I thought the most
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: surprising thing about the game last week from a Tennessee
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  Speaker 2: perspective was the fact that their D line got manhandled
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  Speaker 2: because they actually have very good players on their D line.
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  Speaker 2: They have John Franklin Myers, who's been a good player
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  Speaker 2: in multiple places, Jets, Denver. And, you know, he is
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  Speaker 2: a good player. Say what you want. He's a good player.
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: But they just got manhandled last week by the Jets.
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  Speaker 2: They got moved off the ball. The Jets did not
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  Speaker 2: have any lengthy runs. I think the longest run was
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: 13 yards, but they got moved. So they're going to
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: be ready to play. And Simmons, to me, over the
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: last couple of years, I think Jeffrey Simmons has been
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: the best defensive tackle in the league. He is truly
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: a dominant player. And it's not about stats because with
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: deep tackles, it's not about stats, you know, sure. You'd
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: love them to get sacks and he does get sacks.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know the number he had last year, but
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: I think it was double figures, but he does. Yeah,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: he does get sacks, but he just, I mean, almost
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: every snap, it seems like he wins, you know, and
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: obviously plays don't necessarily go to him. So, you know,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: he may not get a tackle, but he is a dominant,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: dominant force. And you know, because I've been around the
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Titans and he has so much pride and so much
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: intensity about him just as a human being, he will
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: be ready to play this week. Now, what that means,
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: I can't answer that. But whoever plays center and left guard,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: you know, that's probably going to be a day's work.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I just had to bring this up. I
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: watched a play last week on tape where the Jets
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: were basically just running a simple zone run. And just
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: to get Brees Hall for six yards– the center and
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: the right guard double teamed Simmons. And then the left
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: guard sort of left his reach block early and came
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: right into the picture so that when I froze it,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: there were six hands. on Jeffrey Simmons as Bryce Hall
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: was running up the middle. It reminded me of sometimes
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: the tactics the Eagles used to take against Aaron Donald
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: when they faced the Rams. And, you know, there was
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: a time a tight end came across and wham block.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: The Eagles are going to have to do multiple things
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: in different ways in their run and pass game to
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: make sure he's accounted for.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: I'll be interested to see because Kendall is a pretty
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: good athlete. I mean, he's just not big. He's long,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: but he's, I know he's up to 305. He put
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: on 15 pounds of muscle. We'll see if that shows up,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: but this is, he played against Washington last year at center,
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: but this is, this is a way, you know, this
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: is a big deal. And the Titans got embarrassed last week.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: And Nissan stadium, this will be the Eagles fourth time.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: They're their own three. I understand other than Lane Johnson,
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: really no one else has left from those games, but
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: it gets loud there. I've been there. I've been there
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: for a game many years ago. It's super loud. This
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: is their last year until they open up their new one.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: And I'm interested to see how Kendall handles this. This
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: is a guy that they've loved from the day that
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: they drafted him. Andrew and I were at training camp
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: last year, and we remarked, we were like, wow, he's
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: really small, though. He's 6'4, somewhere around there. But we
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: saw him in OTAs. We were like, he looks like
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: a different person. He's so much bigger, Jeff, so much bigger. Well,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: his draft day measurements, he was 6'4, and an 8'3, 08.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: He's not a tiny guy. Now, do we know, is
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: he playing center or left guard? Well, we don't know yet,
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: but we know he's practiced at both. So it's just
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: a matter of is Juergens going to move over or not.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: We'll find that out on Sunday. I think there's.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: A case to be made that it would be if
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: you played Juergens at left guard, you're at least going
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: with someone with guard experience, and then Kendall is playing
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: his natural position. And then as a center, Kendall is
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: always going to help somebody.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: That would be my– I mean, again, I'm not there,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: but that's what I personally would do. I'd play Kendall
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: at center. and uh because he he knows how to
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: play center the one thing watching his tape at bc
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: he's one of those guys that knows how to play
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: the position. That's a major part of his game, the awareness,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: the savvy, the understanding of angles and leverage. It's moving over.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: People might say, oh, it's just moving over. Well, it's different.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: He knows how to play center. Yeah.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Jeff, as we've said since he was drafted, the knock
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: on him was– clubs just did not see him as
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: a guard. They just didn't think he could do it.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: It's not about how tall you are. It's about strength.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: And they just didn't think it was strong enough. So
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: we're going to learn Sunday. We're going to learn a
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: lot about how, as you were talking about the alignment
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: and who's, who's over them.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: We'll see. Yeah.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: And this is why guys, it's always hard to say,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people will do this.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Oh man, the jets just smoke the Titans. The Eagles
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: should go in and beat him by twice as much.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: The jets ran the ball. Well, as Greg just mentioned,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: the Eagles have not run the ball. as effectively as
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: they want to be. And now they have a backup
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: on the offensive line. The Jets also, Greg, you can
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: attest to this from what you saw. I thought they
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: did a good job of getting Gino the ball out
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: of his hands pretty quickly. They used their multiple tight ends.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: They got a nice innovative jet sweep with the rookie
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Sadiq to get him free for a touchdown.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Over the edges.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: The Eagles have not yet also put together this kind of, hey,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: we can bing, bing, bing, bing, quick game, yet they're
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: still working in new personnel. So it's I'm not trying
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: to overhype the Titans here, but I do think they
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: will come in a little bit more. For sure. I'm
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: sure Robert Sello will get them a little more fire.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Jeff had a 19-play drive, Jeff and Adam, that began
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: at the end of the first quarter and went into
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: the second quarter, in which they ran the ball nine
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: consecutive times. You never see that in the NFL. They
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: really controlled the ball for more than 21 minutes in
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: the first half. Now, some of that is obviously a
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: function of the Titans' offense, who had the most three
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: and outs of any team in the league a week ago.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: And obviously that really hurts you. But, you know, again,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: you never know what's going to happen in a game.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: But there are good players on the Titans defense, particularly
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: on their defensive front. So I would assume that they'll
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: play better. Yeah.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Let's look at Jermaine Johnson, who came over, who played
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: for Salah the Jets, who was a big part of
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: that win that the Jets had against the Eagles a
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: few years ago when Salah was head coach Thomas, right?
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Jacob Martin, John Franklin Myers, who was part of Broncos
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: defense last year. It almost didn't make sense to me, Greg,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: just like it didn't make sense to me watching the
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Broncos get steamrolled by the Kansas city chiefs or watching
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Houston give up a lot of yards to, to the
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Buffalo bills, even though Buffalo is playing very well. That's
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: where the week one part of this comes into what's
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: real and what just was a bad week one.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: And because there's only 17 games, these games matter. Obviously the,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: But it's hard to draw definitive conclusions from week one. Look,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I was down at Tennessee twice. I was down for
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: their mini camp and down in training camp. And so
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I was standing right next to these defensive linemen who
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: are big. They look great. I thought that would be
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: a strength. It may end up being a strength. It
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: certainly was in week one. But I'd be loathe to
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: say that they stink now and the Eagles are just
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: going to run all over them, as you just said, Jeff.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: That's not likely. Yeah.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Let's hyper-focus on the Eagles offense a little bit. We're
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: independent of the Titans. So, Greg, the more that they
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: run what they want to do under Sean Mannion, part
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: of me does wonder a little bit if they have
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: everything they need right now at the moment. I know
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: that these teams that run these Shanahan or LaFleur-style offenses
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: that want to run wide zone, they usually have really
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: good blocking receivers. Not sure how you feel about the
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Eagles in that department or what showed up on tape.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: in week one, usually you're using multiple tight ends because
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: they can do different things. But right now you're a
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: little one dimensional with guys with only three tight ends
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: and you're only, they only played two for the most part,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Johnny Munt and Goddard. And we know Munt is only
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: there to block. So I guess my question would be
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: to you, do you, when you look at the personnel
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: they're putting on the field for what they want to do,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: do you think that they are very much an unfinished
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: product and working towards something? Do you have any questions
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: about the personnel in the schemes?
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, let's, let's understand that, you know,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: if they do want to change personnel or feel that
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: they don't, that's, that wasn't going to happen this year.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: So you have to live with what you have, but
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I think Octavian Wicks is a very good blocker. Um,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: that's not what Makai Lemon is, but they drafted him
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: when they knew Sean Mannion was the, the, um, OC.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: So they obviously felt that Lemon fits what they wanted
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: to do. Um, you know, separate from being a blocker,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: cause he's not going to do that. Um, You know,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: so we'll see how that goes. Now, obviously, because of
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: the tight end situation, they only played 13 snaps with
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: multiple tight ends last week, 12 and 12 personnel and
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: one in 13 personnel. I don't know if that's something
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: they'll start to do more of as they sort of,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: you know, self scout and assess themselves. Obviously, Johnny Munt
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: was brought in because he has great familiarity with this
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: scheme and he's a strong blocker from the attached tight
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: end alignment. He can make all the necessary blocks, including
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: reach blocks on outside zone, which are critical. So the
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: question is, as they go forward, does he play more?
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Or do they feel that their best personnel is more
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: 11 personnel? That's something I don't think they probably exactly
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: knew the answer to week one. And we'll see how
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: that develops going forward. But, you know, receivers, like I said,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Wicks is a very good blocker. The other guys, you know,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: you're not going to use those guys as real blockers.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: you know, in a run game.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Adam, it's got to start with the run game, does
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: it not? I mean, this run game has to figure
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: out a way to get more explosive, more consistent, stay
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: ahead of the sticks.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: And Greg, you thought, because I asked you this when
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: we did the tape show, you felt that they missed
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: a bunch of blocks because I said, well, you know,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: what was the issue? And you said you saw some
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: of those blocks. Is that accurate?
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: You're talking about the Eagles? Yeah. Well, a lot of
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: it had to do with Dickerson, quite frankly. I thought
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Steen played well. I think I mentioned that when we
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: broke down the Eagles earlier in the week. I thought
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Steen played well. You know, Juergens, look, I'm not necessarily
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: charting every O-lineman on every play, so I don't want
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: to speak out of school. But just my general impression
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: of Juergens is that he's solid, but not like a
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: great player. You know, look, I did a lot of work.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I watched the Bears run game a ton over the
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: summer because they ended up being third best in the league.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: And I know Caleb Williams had something to do with
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: that because he runs a bit. But, you know, there
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: are two backs combined for 780 yards and they had
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: the third best run game. So I kind of did
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: a deep dive because I also found out that Ben
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Johnson is the one who actually designs the run game
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: every week. So I wanted to see what it was.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: And Dolman retired, but he was extremely noticeable in a
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: positive way on film. Like, you know, I came away,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: you know, because I was looking at the right side
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: of their own line in particular, because Wright and Jackson
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: are great run blockers, which really showed up. But Dolman
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: was a major part of that. And I kept thinking, God,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: they're going to have a tough time. You know, obviously
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: it didn't show up week one when the two backs
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: combined for 228 yards, I think, an average eight yards
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: to carry. But the point is, I thought to myself, boy,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Drew Dolman's a really good player. I don't necessarily get
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: that overall feeling watching Juergens. Now, I could be dead wrong.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Maybe Chris Cooper or Jeff Stoutland would tell me, I
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: don't know what I'm talking about. And you know what?
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: They know more than I do about all line play.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: But I don't get that feeling watching the tape.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Greg, when we look at these matchups, and we talked
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: about Jermaine Johnson, who was traded up for Devontae Sweat,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: for Scheme, and obviously they've got Salah here with Johnson.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: But the guy that I liked, and we'll see how
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: his career goes, is Femi Oledeo. I think we talked
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: about him last year out of UCLA. What are your
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: thoughts on him?
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what? He was one of the few
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: D linemen who flashed in this game against the run game.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: He's very strong at the point. He's very physical. He
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: sets the edge. He can play off blocks. He's the
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: one guy that to me, when I watched the Titans
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: tape felt like, Oh, he stood out because most guys
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: didn't even Jeffrey Simmons being honest. And I'm sure Jeffrey
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Simmons would tell you the same thing, but Odejo is
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: a very, very good run defender. You know, in an
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: ideal world, they'd like for him to really develop as
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: he continues to play as a pass rusher, clearly. And
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: then they have the younger kid from Auburn, Keldrick Falk,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: who played, I think, about 20 snaps. Look, he's young.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I think he's 20. So, I mean, obviously they drafted
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: him late first round because there's so much there to
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: work with body-wise, so much. But, you know, if that happens,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: that's probably not going to happen week two of his
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: rookie season when he's 20 years old. Yeah.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I thought the Titans linebacker struggled with tackling also, Greg.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they didn't have Cedric Gray, who I don't
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: know what his status is for this week. It's questionable. Okay.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: So I don't know because he got a concussion that
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: was separate from football, and he didn't play last week.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: So they played Anthony Hill and Mike. See, there's a
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: case where Anthony Hill had a lot of tackles, okay?
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: And I noticed him. I mean, he had a lot
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: of tackles. But it wasn't like I didn't come away going, man,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: that guy just– he was such an impactful player. Right.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: He just made a lot of tackles and there's nothing
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: wrong with that, by the way, but it wasn't, you know,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: one of those performances. Like I remember, you know, watching really,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: you know, high level linebackers and I'm not comparing Anthony
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Hill to anybody. So I hope people don't take it
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: that way. But when you watch like the Luke Keekly's
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: of the world, you come away going, wow, that's, that's
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: really impressive. Now I wouldn't expect Hill to be like
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: that in his first start in an NFL game. Right.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: And Cody Barton had to play probably more than they
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: wanted him to. Um, And James Williams was the third
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: backer in their base, and he's the converted safety from
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: the University of Miami. So, they you know they the
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: linebacker position was not exactly what they wanted.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: To be gray took all of his reps on friday
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: he needs to get full he needs to get the
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: final medical clearance uh williams by the way he's got
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: an elbow injury he should be able to go now
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: the big one this is because he starts and he's
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: another guy who played for brian dable who's now the
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: oc of the titans uh cordell flatt is one of
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: their starting corners his quad tightened up after Thursday's practice.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: They held him out Friday. They still think he is questionable.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: They think he could play, but they're not going to
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: know until Sunday.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Yep. So that would be a problem, Greg. Cordell Flock,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: let me ask you a question. He had sort of
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: an up and down career with the Giants. Do you
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: see him as a quality starter?
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I think in an ideal world, Flock, because he's so light.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, I like the player, but I think to me, again,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I think he's a slot, but he can't play slot
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: for them because they just don't have much else on
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: the outside. If he can't go this week, I'm curious
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: what they'll do. They have Jalen Jones, who's been in
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: the league, so I guess it could be him, but
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: they play Marcus Harris in the slot, and Marcus Harris,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: he played outside in college at, I believe, Cal, but
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: he's really a slot too. So they, they sort of
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: have two slot guys and flat has to play on
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: the outside. And it's not that he doesn't have the
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: athletic traits to do that. He's just, you know, if
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: you see him in person, I mean, he looks like
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: a little kid. He's probably 175 or 180 pounds.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: We should mention a guy who went to Jeff school,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Kevin Winston coming off the ACL injury.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on Kevin Winston as a safety?
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I think he's got a chance to be a really
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: good player. Um, You know, he's got really good size.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: He can play anywhere. He can play on the back end.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: He can play at the second level. He can blitz.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: He can tackle. I think and they hope that he
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: can become an impact safety.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: He was awesome at Penn State before the injury.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a really good prospect. He's a third-round pick
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: who likely would have been maybe a late first, early
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: second if he didn't have the injury. Yeah, for sure.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I'd really like to see the Eagles get their run
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: game going because I would also– I think that helps
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: us– get an idea of Sean Mannion's ability to sequence plays,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: to find a rhythm, you know, even though we did some,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: some really terrific throws from Jalen Hurts. This is not
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: to me about Jalen Hurts. It's just more about how
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Sean can control the pace and the tempo of the offense.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: And the only way you do that and show what
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: you can be as a play callers, if you can
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: move the chains and then this offense, you've got to
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: be able to do it offensive with the run game, right?
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I mean, that's the way they want
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: to play. Um, So we'll see how it goes. Look,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I thought, as we discussed earlier in the week, I
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: thought Hurts played very well. Now, a lot of people
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: might sit here and say, well, what do you mean? They,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: you know, they had five three and outs. How could
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: you say that? You know, as you know, when I
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: evaluate a quarterback, I isolate his play. There's so many
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: factors in a game that dictate other things. But isolating
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts play, I thought he played very well. He
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: was in total command in that game.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: You know, And one thing you can always say about Jalen, look,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: we've talked over the years and everybody in the league
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: knows this. You guys talk to coaches. We've talked about
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: this over the years. We're not saying anything that no one,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: you know, doesn't know who's in the league. Okay.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: There are times where, you know, he, he's not played
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: really well as a pocket quarterback. But the one, one
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: of the things about him is he does have an
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: innate feel for what's required in given games and how
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: to play that given game. Okay. Now, people might say, well,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: he's a winner, you know, and, and, and I understand
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: the term because he does have that feel for how each,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: what each game demands.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: And, and there's no question that, that he can do that.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: You know, so the last game that they played, you know,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: the week one victory, obviously they didn't call a ton
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: of pass plays relative to what happens normally in the league,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: but he played that game the way it, you know,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: when it's third and whatever it was 15 or 16
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: and he runs for 22 yards, You know, he just
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: has a feel for those kinds of things. Yes.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: But my big takeaway from that game was, and this
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: is the big issue for him, it has been, is
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: throwing within timing of the offense. I was so happy
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: watching that thing. Greg, because I remember when I called you,
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: we'll go a little bit inside. I called Greg. I go,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: all right, I haven't talked to anyone yet. Let me
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: know what you think. He goes, God, Hertz was really good.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: I was like, really? Great. Okay.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Then we moved on. We had no idea what that
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: meant until we did the show with you.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: We didn't know. No, he played really well.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: I'm sure.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I'm sure. Go ahead.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: I was just going to throw on time, guys. This
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: is what we talked about. He's shown that he can
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: do it and he did it.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Now it's got to work. And it's so funny because people,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: you know, obviously I'm on Twitter, you know, because we're,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: you know, sort of have to be in our business,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: you know, and I even commented on that on when
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: I did Colin Coward show and I got the responses. Gee, gee,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: you know, I got to tell you, people are saying,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I got to tell you the truth. I'm surprised Cosell
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: said good things about Jalen Hurts. because everybody takes this
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: stuff personally. I'm just telling you what the tape shows.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: And obviously, I talk to people too, coaches. And I'm
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: just being honest, and you guys know this. Other than
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: probably coaches, I don't know if there's anybody who watches
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: tape more than I do. I watch tape literally every
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: day of my life.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: No, but you're pretty much the only person that doesn't
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: work for a team that watches every team?
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, you know... It's not a
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: matter of being right all the time. No one is,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: no matter how much tape you watch, but it's about
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: the process. And I watch tape literally every day of
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: my life. I know about Jalen Hurts and it's not personal.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: And then you get a guy like Jeffrey Simmons who
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: comes out and says we need to make him into
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: a quarterback this week. Yeah.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Adds fuel to the fire.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he meant it as disrespectfully as
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: it sounds. I think he just basically saw the hearts
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: did bail them out of several bad. People say the.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Same thing about Josh Allen. I mean, that and by
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: the way, Josh Allen's pretty good from the pocket these days. But,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, you just don't want to get hurt. You know,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: defenses become totally demoralized. Like when Jalen ran for those
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: 22 yards, you can see defensive guys just hanging their head.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Those are kind of demoralizing plays. Right. You know.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Right. Yeah.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Just to make a quick point about a conversation I
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: had with Dean Pease a number of years ago. And
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: he said that when you play quarterbacks like that, you
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: in a sense have to have two defenses and it's
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: very hard. You have to have a defense for the
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: first two to 2.5 seconds of the play, and then
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: a defense for the next two to 2.5 seconds of
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: the play. And that's a really hard thing to do.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: So if people don't know who Dean Pease is, he's
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: the former defense coordinator for the Patriots and Ravens, absolute
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: legend in the coaching community.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: He's, uh, Yeah, he's seen it all, man. He's great.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: He was a college D.C.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Too, wasn't he?
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Was he at Michigan?
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was somewhere in college. I forget. Yeah, very good. Anyway,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: so that's, you know, so Jeffrey Simmons doesn't mean that disrespectfully.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: He means that you can play within the structure of
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: your– you have to think about it from a defensive perspective.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: You can stay within the structure of your defense and
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: what you've practiced all week if the quarterback is in
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: the pocket. Once the quarterback leaves the pocket, the structure
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: and discipline of your defense becomes compromised. That's the way
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: you have to think about it.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: All right, let's transition. We'll talk about this Eagles defense
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: against the Titans offense. Very interesting stat. When he was
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: not pressured, Cam Ward was like 18-24 last week through
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: his touchdown there. When he was pressured, he looked like
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: a quarterback who was under a whole lot of duress,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: which he was a lot. And the Jets blitzed, I believe,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: 30% of the time, although Greg may have different based
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: on how they chart it. But the point is that
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: the Titans were hoping in year two with a little
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: more weaponry that they would be able to give Cam
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Ward more support. But Greg, their offensive line is just
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: still a big question mark, huh?
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: It's a big question mark. And, you know, you guys
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: all know what I'm talking about, and maybe some younger
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: fans won't. And I'm going to just read a couple
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: of things I wrote about Cam Ward because, you know,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: I think it's important. But I start to get concerned,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: and particularly when I saw the tape from last week
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: where the O-line was still not very good. It made
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: me think of Patrick Ramsey, and you guys know what
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about. I just think of a quarterback that's
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: under so much duress and pressure all the time that
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: you just anticipate that you're going to be pressured every
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: time you drop back. And it's really hard to play
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: quarterback that way. So, again, I'm not defending Cam Ward.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you that. He's under duress all the time.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: So here's a couple of things, and I'm just going
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: to read it just so I say it the right way.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: I said, Ward, as he grows in Dable's system, must
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: continue to get a more refined feel for the timing
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: of route combinations, when to let the concept develop, and
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: when to come off the primary read and work to
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: the secondary read. It's a balance that he is not
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: yet comfortable with. Then I also said there were times
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Ward rushed through his reads and other times he stayed
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: too long on the primary. I said Ward must also
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: become firmer in squeezed pockets with his fundamental mechanics and
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: maintaining a strong base. And the bottom line point is
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: pocket control is a mental challenge for Ward because he's
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: been under such constant duress going back to his rookie season.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: You know, and it's just, it's hard. But the other
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: thing that really stood out last week, and this is coachable,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: and I guarantee you Brian Dable had worked on it
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: all this week. I thought that their pass game overall
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: was way out of sync. There were too many concepts
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: and combinations in which the spacing and the route distribution
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: was not what it needed. to be. And boy, does
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: that money the read for a quarterback. He just doesn't
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: feel like anything is defined. And they had that problem
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: all game last week.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Greg, a couple of questions on their offensive line. I
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: know there were some real, when Dan Moore signed that
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: big deal to come up from the Steelers, tights left tackle.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: It was a stunner. And I was told that he
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: had three or four teams very heavy on him, but
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: he decided to go to Nashville. How has he held
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: up at left tackle?
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: You know what? The last year he was in Pittsburgh,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I thought he's a solid NFL left tackle. Adam, it
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: wasn't this group that signed him, right? Did Borghansi sign him?
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: It was Borghansi. Okay. He has not played well. I'm
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: just being honest. He's really struggled in one-on-one pass protection.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: He's been a liability.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Which is, you know, again, you they're stuck with him
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: cause he's, you know, the contract is not small. Um,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: and they're obviously playing a rookie at right guard who
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: won the job fair and square a player, Fernando Carmona,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: whose tape I thought was pretty good. He played tackle
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: in college. I thought that his tape was solid, that
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: he could be an NFL starter, but he's a rookie,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: you know, and obviously this week he'd be going up
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: against Jalen Carter and assuming Carter's healthy, you know, that's
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: something that we have to look at in this game.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: We'll see how that plays out. Um, They brought in
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Austin Schlottman to play center because he knows Dable's offense
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: extremely well. And in an ideal world, they want to
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: play with some kind of tempo. And they don't want
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Ward to have to deal with protections. Not that he's incapable.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: I've been around Cam Ward. He's a very impressive young man.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: But they just want the center to deal with all that.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: And Schlottman knows Brian Dable's offense.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Jeff, other than dead money. They don't owe Dan Moore
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: a dime after the season. Then he might not be
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: there after the season. Look, it's tough.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Well, how about Latham? Is he playing any better at
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: right tackle?
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: A little bit. And again, they did not draft Latham.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: That was the previous. That was Rand Carthon. And by
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: the way, a lot of people like Latham. I spoke
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: to a number of O-line coaches in the league who
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: thought Latham could be a left tackle, which he started
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: out with the Titans, and he really had a hard
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: time his rookie season. He's better– at right tackle, but
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: he still needs to be even better. So what they wanted,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: I was going to add what they wanted that previous regime.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: I was told they want to draft Joe alt. And
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: then they had to, they had to go to a
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: different direction when the chargers took them. And then Latham,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: as Greg said, it just didn't, he didn't look good
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: as a rookie, but man, Greg just outlined all their
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: issues on their offensive line. And, you know, Vic Fangio,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: the Eagles defense coordinator kind of made it clear. He
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: wasn't totally happy with their pass rush. Yeah.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: This is the remedy.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you wish you'd have Grenard, right, to
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: take advantage of the fact that Moore is not a
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: great tackle, but he's out. But nonetheless, Cam Ward does
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: not make moves like Jaden Daniels does. So you'll have
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: a really good opportunity here, or pretty early, to assert yourself,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: get a guy who's already, as Greg said, sort of
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: playing like he's under duress, even before he's under duress,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: and then capitalize that and kind of bring the hammer down.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Ward, you know, one of the things that
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: he clearly needed to work on, which I saw last
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: year as a rookie and actually had this conversation with
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: When I was down in Tennessee, actually, I think it
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: was with the head coach, because everybody knows it. If
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: you watch tape, you know it. They really need to
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: work on his footwork and his fundamental mechanics. And the
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: problem is when you feel like you're under duress, all
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: that kind of falls apart a little bit. Because when
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: I was down for minicamp, I could tell that he
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: was really working on it and looked so much smoother.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: But then you get in the games and everything happens
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: so fast. As we've discussed, it's a game of milliseconds,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: and you just feel like you're going to be under pressure,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: and it's just you revert back. Sure.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: How did they deploy Carnell Tate? Obviously, they're working through Tate.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: They bring in Wandale Robinson to play the slot. Ioman
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Orn is in his second year. He made a couple
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: of plays last year that were interesting, and then I
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: think Calvin Ridley had, what, no targets?
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the way– Dable's background is more from sort
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: of the Perkins-Erhart school of passing game, where you have
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: your route concepts, but you can run them from multiple
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: formation looks. So they're not necessarily, he's an X, he's
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: a Z, he's a slot. They're more into the fact that, hey,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: here's our route concepts, and we can run them from
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: multiple formations. It's not like the Texans and Nico Collins
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: or a team that, hey, this guy's an X. They
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: don't really do it like that. They do it where
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: pretty much everybody can run everything, so to speak. You know,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: it's based on the concepts. Got it.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: So there were times that Wanda Robinson lined up outside?
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: He's not an X per se, but yeah, he could line.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: And they go in motion a little bit. Although the
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: one thing that they need to, in my view, again,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: I'm just giving you my opinion. I think they play
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: in the gun way too much. They play like 85%
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: of their snaps in the gun. And I think to
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: help with Ward, his footwork, his timing, you know, Because
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: when you're under center, the way you have to drop,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: it really sets up your footwork, your timing, your balance.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: You know, I remember having this conversation years ago with
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Troy Aikman, who hated the gun because he just felt
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: like I have no rhythm. You know, and again, I
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: don't know what, you know, when you start losing and
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: not looking good, coaches do make adjustments. I don't know
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: what they're going to do this week. I have no idea.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: But that's just, I'm just giving you my opinion. Sure.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: I would say this, Jeff. There were a lot of
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: people in the NFL, especially coaches I spoke with, who
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: love Cam Ward. Very serious about football. It's like football family,
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: nothing else. He just loves football. So you love that
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: about him. That's a good base to start with. But
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Greg has now outlined how many issues he's having, their
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: offensive line issues. We didn't even talk about the running game,
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: which could not get on track.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: They didn't run enough plays.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they just didn't have the ball.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: They didn't have the ball. You can't really get into
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: a meaningful run game if you don't run plays. Yeah,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: it's hard. The run game is a rhythm thing, too.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Tajay Spears is the backup to Pollard. They actually split
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: almost identical snaps. Yeah. But the game was never close.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: They could never really run the football like they wanted.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: So who, boy, you would think guys, this sets up
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: pretty well for the Eagles, but we, as we know,
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: strange things happen on the road.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: You know, when you're, when you're a bit quote unquote
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: bad team and you're trying to get over the hump,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: it's funny how bad things happen. They go down. I'm
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: trying to remember what the score was, but it was
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: close and the game was early. And I think it
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: was either a kickoff. Was it a kickoff? And, and,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: DK fumbles. The guy never fumbled one last year. And
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: then he fumbled, you know, that's the kind of thing
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: that happens. And then all of a sudden you feel
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: like you're behind the eight ball and the whole game changes. Right.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Oh man.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: So I know they brought in Bellinger from the, all
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: these former giants and jets, but they were mostly 11
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: personnel you would say against against the jets.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can tell you that in a sec.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Because it looked like Helm probably got more, the tight
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: end from Texas, got more.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, got it. They lined up 36 snaps and 11,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: only 7 snaps and 12.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: I feel like Dable was like the last of the
• 46:39
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  Speaker 2: Which is really interesting because, you know, they brought in Bellinger.
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  Speaker 2: Helm is actually a good receiver. Again, I would think
• 46:50
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• 46:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not there. I mean, every day.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Here's why, though. Ridley, because of his contract, though, he
• 46:57
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  Speaker 3: play as a first-round pick. Robinson's getting paid a ton
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  Speaker 3: to play the slot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: How do you justify not, like, these guys got to
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  Speaker 3: play from a coaching standpoint and a front office standpoint?
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  Speaker 3: They're going to say, well, why do we spend all
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: this money and why do we spend this draft capital
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: if these guys don't play? Honestly, those guys can play.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Well, I wonder about Ridley, Adam. You're making a good point.
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  Speaker 1: He's getting paid, but does he have anything left?
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: That's a question.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: You're right.
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  Speaker 3: He had a knee surgery. I remember talking to the Titans,
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  Speaker 3: the former staff. He just could not get on track
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: last season. He took a pay cut. Tate was seen
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: as the best deep threat for this draft, but he
• 47:35
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• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Great.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: Daniel Bellinger, who's supposed to be their starter, again, he
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: didn't play a lot. What were your thoughts on him
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: as a tight end?
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Well, Helm would be their starter.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: Right, but it's time to start our money.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: When I watched the Giants this summer, I did that
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: intentionally because not only did I want to watch Dart,
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: but I also wanted to watch to see what Brian
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Dable's offense was. And he used Bellinger in multiple ways.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: I came away thinking, God. this guy's really going to
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: help them because he lined him up everywhere, including in
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: the backfield as a lead blocker. There were times he
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: was the boundary X on the backside of trips. I mean, Bellinger's,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's not Trey McBride or Brock Bowers, obviously,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: but he's not a bad athlete. He's not one of
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: those plotting tight ends that can't move. And so we'll see.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: That's why I was kind of surprised at how little
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: of 12 personnel they played in the first game. But Again,
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: they got behind. You don't know what their game plan
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: was going to be if the game was 10-10 in
• 48:29
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• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Bellinger, by the way, three years, $ 26 million. Excuse me,
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: three years, $ 24 million. It's $ 8 million a year is
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: a lot. I'm interested to see how they decide they're
• 48:42
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• 48:45
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• 48:49
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• 48:52
  Speaker 2: It If they can't protect, it doesn't matter. Yeah.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: But I'm just curious if they can protect how they
• 49:00
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You could understand. You could rationalize and talk yourself into
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Dable thinking that playing the Jets with their bad secondary,
• 49:12
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• 49:15
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• 49:17
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• 49:21
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• 49:26
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• 49:29
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• 49:32
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• 49:34
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• 49:37
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• 49:39
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• 49:44
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• 49:47
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• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it'll be interesting to see, you know,
• 49:52
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• 49:56
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• 49:58
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• 50:00
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  Speaker 2: We don't know the answer to that. Very good.
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  Speaker 1: our predictions. This week, Adam, we start with you. And
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  Speaker 1: everybody the knowledge here, the Eagles are seven-point favorites on
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: the road in tennis, in Nashville. That's a pretty big
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  Speaker 1: number for a place that they have never won. So
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  Speaker 1: what do you think?
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, boy. Greg outlined their offensive line problems, Tennessee. Not
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: that I was going to pick them anyway. I thought
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: maybe they could make the game close. But I've got
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  Speaker 3: Eagles 24, Titans 13.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: 24-13.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's good. And who do you have as your
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: player of the game?
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: One of these weeks is going to be Jalex Hunt.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: I'm going to do it again.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: I was wrong last week. I'm still going to go
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: to the well. Greg got me thinking about the offense.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to go somewhere else, but as he
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• 54:25
  Speaker 3: He could beat their tackles.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Greg, who's going to win the game and who's going
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: to be the player of the game?
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Well, the Eagles, you know, are going to win the game.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: I find it hard to think there'll be an upset
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: in this game, you know, just based on, you know,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: watching the Titans all the time. So I'm going to
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: pick the Eagles. Score-wise, you know, The thing with the
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Titans is, unfortunately, so many games get out of hand early.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: That's been, you know, a problem. So I'm going to
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: pick the Eagles to win 30 to 17. And I'm
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: going to pick Jalen Hurts. I just, I was real
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: comfortable watching him. You know, he's not the kind of
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: guy that's going to take a step backward. I'm not
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: saying all of a sudden he's going to be the
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: greatest quarterback we've ever seen. But, you know, we know
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: how hard he works. You know, I just thought he
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: looked comfortable last week. I don't think this, you know,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: now unless the Eagles O-line really ends up having an issue.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: You know, that's the only caveat. But I just, I
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: really like what I saw from Jalen Hurts. I just
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: like the poise and composure in the way in which
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: he played. So I'm going to pick Jalen Hurts.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: Jeff, what I was going to say is I would
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: have taken Barkley, but I just don't know how Kendall's
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: going to hold up. If I'd seen Kendall play, it's
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: like when we saw Brett Toth play well, shockingly against
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: the Giants, we were like, wow, this guy can really play.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: If I knew he did something like Brett Toth, if
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: he played– if he had a good– if he had
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: a game last– if he played last week and played well,
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: I'd go, you know it's going to be Barkley this week.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Just don't know.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Kind of ironic that if they had Toth right
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: now for this scheme, he might actually be a pretty
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: good fill-in.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: He'd be playing at center.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. When he played last year, remember how much they
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: pulled him? He looked really good getting out in front too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I think he's out for the year, right? He
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: was with the Niners and then he had– Yeah. So,
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: unfortunately– Yeah, so the offensive line was my concern in
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: the running game. So I do think the Eagles will win.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think yet offensively they're going to get to
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: that point where everybody's waiting to see this big offensive
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: productive game. But they will– I also have respect for
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Robert Sala and what I think he'll be able to
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: do for his defense after that embarrassment against the Jets.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: So I imagine– Greg, you pointed it out. They brought
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: in much better players for this defensive front.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: They sure did.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: So I imagine– I imagine you'll see a little bit
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: of a change in what they do and how they play.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: I have the Eagles winning 23 to 15, and I
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: am going to give my player of the game. I
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: should have done it last week. I'm going to do
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: it this week, though.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Zach Bourne.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: Guy was everywhere.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: By the way, see, there's a perfect example. When you
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: watch the tape and you come away going, wow, Zach
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Bourne is really all over the place making big time plays.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Talking about a linebacker that, you know, yeah.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. So that's my player of the game. And
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: that'll do it for the Inside the Birds pregame show
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: here in week two. For Greg Cosell and Adam Kaplan,
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Mosier. Make sure you catch the Inside the
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• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Catch you on the next one.