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Patriots Unfiltered 4/24: Full Day 1 Coverage of the 2025 NFL Draft · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 2: All right, it is Draft night here at Gillette Stadium,
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  Speaker 2: Thursday night, night one of the Draft. It's Patriots Unfiltered,
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  Speaker 2: our special draft show, always our favorite show every year
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  Speaker 2: that we do. We're gonna be here all night. It's Evan,
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  Speaker 2: it's Paul, it's me, it's Deuce, it's Matt Naboof. And
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  Speaker 2: we've got Alex up in the draft party. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: go to her momentarily. But guys, we're finally here. We've
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  Speaker 2: been talking about it, talking about it, and finally we
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  Speaker 2: get to do it. It is Draft night. Patriots have
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  Speaker 2: the fourth pick. As we all know, early predictions. Let's
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  Speaker 2: go around the table.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I gotta go with the flow. I think everybody's
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  Speaker 5: saying right now, it's going to be Will Campbell. That's
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  Speaker 5: what the hype and all the scuttle but is here
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  Speaker 5: as we finally get to the draft. So I think
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  Speaker 5: that sounds like the pick. It makes sense to me.
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  Speaker 5: I know there are some concerns, but after Hunter and
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  Speaker 5: Carter at the top two, there's gonna be some questions
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  Speaker 5: about no matter who you pick, I think if it
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  Speaker 5: is Will Campbell, I'm all for it.
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  Speaker 6: Evan, I think this is the first time that I've
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  Speaker 6: seen such consensus at a pick that's not like number
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  Speaker 6: one overall. Right, it just feels like everybody has penciled
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  Speaker 6: Will Campbell in as a Patriot at this point. I
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  Speaker 6: think the only wrench that could possibly be thrown into
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  Speaker 6: this is if they trade down, and if they are
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  Speaker 6: able to find a partner to trade down with. But
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with the masses because this is unprecedented
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  Speaker 6: in my mind that one, two, three, and four are
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  Speaker 6: pretty much all known going into the night.
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  Speaker 7: Paul, Yeah, I'm with the boys on Will Campbell. But
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  Speaker 7: I just want to start by saying how happy I
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  Speaker 7: am from Mike and Evan. This is, you know, basically
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  Speaker 7: the culmination of.
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  Speaker 2: Well of a four five months say that I can
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  Speaker 2: see Evan is excited. Look out, he's dressed so Natalie,
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  Speaker 2: the two of you, I'm very disappointed, very disappointed you
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  Speaker 2: wear more Patriots gear and a regular. You know, Tuesday,
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  Speaker 2: it's a special night.
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  Speaker 5: I thought I should dressed. I'll just to impress tomorrow
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  Speaker 5: for look at that.
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  Speaker 2: I went all out. I've got my Patriots baseball shirt on.
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  Speaker 5: Wait where did that come from? Fred shop?
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  Speaker 7: Was the central? I thought they played refs they playing
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  Speaker 7: right and George just playing left. It was in left center.
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  Speaker 5: The tough lost International Forest products last.
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  Speaker 2: Year playing softball playing right field. He had a good arm.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, So I let's put it this way. I
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  Speaker 7: think we all kind of feel like it's Will Campbell.
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  Speaker 7: So let's throw out a trade scenario. Is there a
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  Speaker 7: trade trade down scenario that you think has any realistic
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  Speaker 7: opportunity to happen?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely? I think I listen what I haven't given my
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  Speaker 2: prediction yet.
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  Speaker 7: Oh okay, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: My prediction is plan a trade down and then trade
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  Speaker 2: back into the first round. I think that's plan A
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  Speaker 2: for this team. And if that doesn't work, if you
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  Speaker 2: can't find a partner to trade down, it will be
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  Speaker 2: Will Campbell and I'm pounding the table.
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  Speaker 7: We'll repeat my question then, So, assuming there's a trade
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  Speaker 7: down to happen realistic, is there something that you guys
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  Speaker 7: have in mind?
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  Speaker 2: Chicago Chicago. Well that's the rumors, right yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I mean if Chicago in Jacksonville, which is the rumor
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  Speaker 6: right now, although now there's rumors out there that Jacksonville
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  Speaker 6: is actually trying to go up, not down, So who
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  Speaker 6: knows what's up down? I don't know anymore. If Chicago
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  Speaker 6: is really as infatuated by Ash and genty as everybody
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  Speaker 6: is making it sound. If I'm the Patriots, I feel
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  Speaker 6: pretty comfortable going from four to ten in a draft
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  Speaker 6: like this. You might still get your guy. You might
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  Speaker 6: still get Will Campbell at ten. If not, you can
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  Speaker 6: come up with a pretty good stack of players to
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  Speaker 6: still get At ten. They have two second round picks
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  Speaker 6: Chicago thirty nine and one, so you get an extra
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  Speaker 6: second round pick, and now you have four picks on
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  Speaker 6: Day two of the draft, and you could really control
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  Speaker 6: Day two.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: To me, Fred like throughout this process, whenever I mess around,
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  Speaker 5: you do these mock drafts, you play with the mock
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  Speaker 5: draft trackers, all that stuff. Whenever I traded down and
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  Speaker 5: just picked up an extra second round pick, it really
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  Speaker 5: just opened up everything. Those are my favorite drafts. It
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  Speaker 5: gives you the most flexibility. I would trade down to ten, absolutely,
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  Speaker 5: even if it meant maybe losing Will Campbell, I think
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  Speaker 5: you'd still get one of those other tackles in that spot.
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  Speaker 5: But as we talked about on the pre show we
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  Speaker 5: did earlier today, it seems like they have to come
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  Speaker 5: out of today with a tackle. I mean, we can
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  Speaker 5: debate about what end of the spectrum we're on, but
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  Speaker 5: those tackles are going to go fast. You've seeing some
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  Speaker 5: of the reporting here saying that that's those are positions
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  Speaker 5: that are gonna go. It's the biggest position to need
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  Speaker 5: on this roster. I think they've got to figure out
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  Speaker 5: a way to come away with one of those.
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  Speaker 2: Guys time No, I like I said, I think plan
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  Speaker 2: a trade down and then trade back in. But if
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  Speaker 2: they end up with Will Campbell, whether it's four or
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  Speaker 2: ten or whatever, I'm gonna be very.
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  Speaker 7: Happy with that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what listen, when this draft process started, the
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  Speaker 2: college season ended, he was the number one tackle for
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  Speaker 2: a reason, for a reason, and I think he still
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  Speaker 2: is the number one tackle in my book and everything
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  Speaker 2: that I've seen so far, and particularly lately with these.
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  Speaker 7: Interviews he's had. I like this guy.
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  Speaker 2: I like the cut of his Jim.
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  Speaker 5: Don't you feel like it's what the Patriots offensive line needs.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I know we can debate about how good
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  Speaker 5: of a player Will Campbell, you know, will be with
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  Speaker 5: whether he's left tackle. They needed an injection of a
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  Speaker 5: guy like this. I feel like that's gonna kind of
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  Speaker 5: be the leader you lost David Andrews. But I think
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  Speaker 5: all those lines that they had throughout the years when
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  Speaker 5: over there they had a little bit of, you know,
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  Speaker 5: Logan Mankins, a little bit of a snarl to it,
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  Speaker 5: a little bit of a personality to it. I think
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  Speaker 5: that's something that's kind of lacking a little bit, not
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  Speaker 5: you know, no offense to players like I mean, Michael,
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  Speaker 5: when you kind of a quiet guy, that's fine, you
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  Speaker 5: can be great and be quiet. But I just love
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  Speaker 5: Will Campbell's attitude. He seems to me from the second
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  Speaker 5: I heard him talk leader confident.
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm sold. I'm like I said, whether it's btt PTT, what.
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  Speaker 5: You got to do? Get the guy here?
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  Speaker 6: So what's that?
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  Speaker 7: But this is this is interesting to me because you
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  Speaker 7: know I can fabricate an argument, I'll.
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  Speaker 2: Have to drop of a hat.
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  Speaker 7: So that's what I'll do. I'll do what I go.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go.
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  Speaker 7: So I am I'll start by saying I am all
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  Speaker 7: for the trade down, and the Chicago thing to me
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  Speaker 7: makes sense because of what we've heard, all this stuff
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  Speaker 7: about Ben Johnson, his desire to have that second running
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  Speaker 7: back and he needs to get in front of Jacksonville
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  Speaker 7: at five, New England at four to get Ashton genty.
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  Speaker 7: So I think that makes some sense, and I love
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  Speaker 7: Evans's idea of getting like, say forty one to go
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  Speaker 7: with it. Now, the risk of that is you guys
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  Speaker 7: are so sold that it's Will Campbell. It has to
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  Speaker 7: be Will Campbell. So now you you run the risk
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  Speaker 7: of losing Will Campbell. Yeah. Ten, which I'm okay with.
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  Speaker 7: But it doesn't sound like you guys are the way
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  Speaker 7: you're talking about Will Campbell. He's a special guy.
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  Speaker 2: No I am, as long as when you trade back
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  Speaker 2: in you get somebody like Josh Conray.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. Okay. Well, so it's not about Will Campbell. It's
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  Speaker 7: about a left town. And that's where I am. No, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 7: At four it's Will Campbell. Freddy yea, yeah, it's Will Campbell.
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  Speaker 7: I'm saying I would rather the trade because I would
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  Speaker 7: rather the prospect. First of all, I think you can
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  Speaker 7: get Will Campbell at ten. But if you don't, I'm
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  Speaker 7: fine with that. I am absolutely fine with it, because
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  Speaker 7: I'm going to get a tackle, whether I get it
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  Speaker 7: at ten. If it happens that Membo and Banks are
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  Speaker 7: gone by the time you go at ten, which is
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  Speaker 7: a possibility that Jets could take a tackle, the Raiders
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  Speaker 7: could take a tackle, So you run the risk of
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  Speaker 7: losing out on your guy. You do. No chance, no
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  Speaker 7: doubt about that. But now I have that other chip
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  Speaker 7: that Evan talked about at forty one that allows me
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  Speaker 7: to get Simmons or Connolly or you know, even Ursery
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  Speaker 7: or someone like that. I can get a left tackle.
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  Speaker 7: It doesn't have to be Will Campbell for me. But
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  Speaker 7: I do agree with you guys. I know technically you
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  Speaker 7: don't have to come out of this draft with a
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  Speaker 7: left tackle, but I think you really kind of need to.
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  Speaker 7: And I really said it's.
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  Speaker 5: Kind of got to be tonight. I think because the
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  Speaker 5: train's going to have left the station. I think we
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  Speaker 5: get to the second round tomorrow.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean there's five or six starting caliber tackles
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  Speaker 6: in this draft, and I say five or six because
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  Speaker 6: the Josh Simmons is injury situation. But once you get
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  Speaker 6: past that second wave of Simmons, Ursery and Connerly, there
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  Speaker 6: are no other tackles that are grading out as starting
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  Speaker 6: caliber guys. There's some developmental guys that our boom or
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  Speaker 6: bust and they could hit you know, on day two
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  Speaker 6: early day three that maybe could turn into that someday.
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  Speaker 6: But for a team that when you put up the
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  Speaker 6: depth chart for the New England Patriots right now and
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  Speaker 6: you look at this team right now, there's just a
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  Speaker 6: glaring hole on the left side of the offensive line.
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  Speaker 6: The only way that's getting filled is if they take
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  Speaker 6: somebody tonight.
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  Speaker 2: All right, As we mentioned, there's a potty going on
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  Speaker 2: right now, and upstairs from where we are speaking, there's
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  Speaker 2: a big draft party sponsored by I believe bud Light,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure. Yeah, And our own Alex is up there.
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  Speaker 2: So let's go to Alex and Alex give us the mood.
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  Speaker 2: I don't see a party. I see you standing in
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  Speaker 2: front of a bunch of empty seats.
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  Speaker 8: Well, listen, it's a beautiful night out. We wanted to
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  Speaker 8: get this nice shot of magic Hour in the lighthouse
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  Speaker 8: before it gets too dark, and then we're gonna have
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  Speaker 8: a lot of time to be inside.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, to the basement, So give me, give us a
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  Speaker 2: little I'd love to see the insight. Can we spin
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  Speaker 2: the camera and take a look I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: With me.
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  Speaker 9: And talk.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like it's like she's doing like the network news. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: walk standing walk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I'm on HG TV.
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  Speaker 10: Absolutely, let's let's look at the beautiful open concept there.
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  Speaker 8: We got Tailaw and Lawyer Maloy right now on Stiage okay,
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  Speaker 8: And previously we had Robert Spallane and Milton Williams opening
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  Speaker 8: up with Sarge. So the vibes are high, the bud
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  Speaker 8: light's flowing, smells like buffalo wings in here, okay. And
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  Speaker 8: I'm seeing a lot of number fifty jerseys this year.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know if it's just standing out to me
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  Speaker 8: more this year, but a lot of people are really
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  Speaker 8: glad they held on.
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  Speaker 2: And how many people? Did you have an estimate of
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  Speaker 2: how many people? I heard there were at least six
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  Speaker 2: hundred early, but how many are there now? It's probably
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  Speaker 2: over a thousand.
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  Speaker 7: Would you say you have you counted? It's higher more
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  Speaker 7: than more than six hundred, being.
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  Speaker 2: Told over a thousand, over one thousand, I would say
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  Speaker 2: over a thousand, and we're just in the club right now.
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  Speaker 8: We haven't even gotten into the atrium.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, so there's two sections of the draft. Wow, okay,
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  Speaker 2: sound and the food's flowing, the beers, the bud light's flowing.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds good. So what's gonna happen Alex?
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  Speaker 5: This second?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead.
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  Speaker 8: I was just gonna say. The second the elevator doors open,
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  Speaker 8: it was just buffalo sauce all you could smell.
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  Speaker 4: It's in toxic.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. It clears up the sinuses.
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  Speaker 2: This is allergy season. I need that. I need that
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  Speaker 2: all right at exactly so you have a good time.
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  Speaker 2: And what we're gonna do after the pick, we're going
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  Speaker 2: to come to you for fan reaction. Whenever that pick happens.
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  Speaker 8: Hopefully we'll find you guys some characters.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so go make some friends. I'm these people up,
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  Speaker 2: and then when we make the pick, we'll come back
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  Speaker 2: to you and get some reaction from the party.
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  Speaker 8: Sounds good talks here.
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  Speaker 2: All right. That's Alex up at the butt light. Drafts
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  Speaker 2: pretty cool.
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  Speaker 7: I like that was pumping pumping up there. I can
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  Speaker 7: actually smell she's standing in front of the seats, so
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  Speaker 7: I can smell the buffalo. Yeah, buffalo.
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  Speaker 2: So when I was in the elevator, I smelled it
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  Speaker 2: to a boneless.
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  Speaker 7: You know, my guess is worried about not being able
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  Speaker 7: to hear. Yeah, so she wanted.
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember the old Flintstone cartoon when he would
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  Speaker 2: smell food and he'd start floating along. Yeah, that was
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  Speaker 2: me when I smelled the buffalo.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he drove his feet with his cartoo. Interesting. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: Bridgestone multipurpose.
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  Speaker 2: It's Toyota. Let's go places. So let's go draft, all right,
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  Speaker 2: So we're waiting for this first pick here. I think
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots pick will be around eight forty five to
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  Speaker 2: nine o'clock somewhere in that area. Yeah, maybe a little sooner,
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  Speaker 2: should I should I fill out the back of my
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  Speaker 2: envelope because I absolutely.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, I think I don't want to. I don't want
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  Speaker 7: to before we get much.
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  Speaker 6: I don't want to.
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  Speaker 7: You just said that you didn't know.
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  Speaker 2: But I want to make sure people hear my back
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  Speaker 2: of the envelope before we get into it.
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  Speaker 6: This is as last minute as it is.
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  Speaker 2: It is so I think where when we left you last,
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  Speaker 2: I was talking about uh O, line and edge. R
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  Speaker 2: j Oben was my last guy from Notre Dame. I
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  Speaker 2: did three more positions. I have to admit I didn't
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  Speaker 2: get to the defensive backs uh and I didn't bother
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  Speaker 2: with center and guards. But tight ends, I just have
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  Speaker 2: a couple. Remember these are back of the envelope. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: these aren't. I think there's a lot of decent tight
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  Speaker 2: ends in this draft, but these are back of the
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  Speaker 2: envelope guys. I got Harold fannin junior from Bowling Green. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: six three forty one, huge, huge stats, huge stats, record breaking.
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  Speaker 2: But I need him to drop to day three. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to take him day two.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's right there on in the third or fourth
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  Speaker 6: round range. The stats, like you said, are off the charts,
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  Speaker 6: record breaking season last year at Bowling Green. I think
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  Speaker 6: that his film against Penn State really stood out to me.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, if you want to look at him against
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  Speaker 6: a legitimate, you know, college football playoff caliber defense, went
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  Speaker 6: for a buck twenty and a touchdown against Penn State,
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  Speaker 6: So if you're concerned about the level of competition, he
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  Speaker 6: was able to do it against an FBS power as well.
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  Speaker 6: But he's a little undersized. He's kind of a tweeter
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  Speaker 6: maybe h back, full back slash tight end at the
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  Speaker 6: NFL level. John new Smith, I think is a comp
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  Speaker 6: that a lot of people have for Harold Finns.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I was the most valuable player first time ever
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  Speaker 5: for a tight end according to Arlett's.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, my second tight end back of the envelope guys
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  Speaker 2: is Jalen Conyers from Texas Tech sixty three two sixty yep.
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  Speaker 2: I have him down as an athlete. This guy has
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  Speaker 2: rare skills for a guy that with that type of girth,
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  Speaker 2: I would say.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you're kind of picking two of the same, similar
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  Speaker 6: kind of guys. Both of them I think are probably
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  Speaker 6: moved tight ends or full backs or h backs at
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  Speaker 6: the next level. The thing that stood out to me
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  Speaker 6: with him was straight line speed and explosiveness, like they
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  Speaker 6: would set him up on you know, a little picks
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  Speaker 6: coming over the middle of the field on crossing routes
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  Speaker 6: and things like that, and just get him the ball
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  Speaker 6: in his hands on the move. And he has a
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  Speaker 6: pretty good top gear and like you said, he's he's
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  Speaker 6: a pretty stout, you know, compact type of guy to
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  Speaker 6: lead block and blocking the run game in different areas.
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  Speaker 6: So a later guy than Fannin obviously, but one of
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  Speaker 6: those guys on Day three that has caught some people's eyes.
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  Speaker 2: All right, then linebacker, I've got three. These are tough.
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  Speaker 2: These are you know, smaller guys. My first one Small
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  Speaker 2: Mondon Jr. From Georgia six five. I can't read my
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  Speaker 2: writing Smrgins, I don't know, but I have him down
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  Speaker 2: as an athlete and a leader.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so he's fantastic. I think, just a really great
• 15:13
  Speaker 6: hybrid linebacker safety prospect. Like if we were still drafted
• 15:17
  Speaker 6: in the Bill years with Dugger and Mapu and those
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: types of players, they'd be all over Smilmondon. I think
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: there's a lot of really good things to like about him.
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: Off the ball, linebacker play cover the slot, in man coverage,
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: whether it's tight ends, or bigger receivers out of the slot.
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: I thought his off ball linebacker tape was better than
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: Jalen Walker's in a lot of ways.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, Demetrius Knight Junior from South Carolina, another six one,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: two thirty five I got. I have him compared a
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: little bit to Bentley because he doesn't mind contact. This guy,
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: he's kind of a little bit of a thumper, but
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: he has more speed than I think Bentley had.
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: So you turn on the game against Alabama for Demetrius
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: Knight and he makes a play against Jalen Milroe is
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: on the fastest quarterbacks and with the ball in his
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: hands in this draft in space, that's just incredible. Play
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: downhill trigger and just go find the quarterback and go
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: get him. Nick Bolton from Kansas City is another guy
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: that I kind of saw him as you know, downhill player.
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: You want him attacking the line of scrimmage. You want
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: him blowing up blocks and chasing quarterbacks and things like that.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: And then my final linebacker is Jack Kaiser out of
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame six one two one. Again, I've got him
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: as a leader. A lot of these linebackers end up
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: as captains. Ye uh, and just just a solid player yead.
• 16:31
  Speaker 7: Of inherent with that position. A lot of communication involved
• 16:33
  Speaker 7: in that. Yeah, a good read by you.
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, really technically sound, a good scraper at the second level.
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: He's gonna make a lot of tackles at this level
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: and play a little bit on special teams too.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: And I've got three defensive tackles. Some of these guys
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: could end up on the outside. But the first one
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: I've got is uh yahaha Yahaya Black from Iowa six
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: three thirty six. This guy I have, you know, because we.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Got we got rid of.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Godshaw, So I think we're gonna want somebody at times
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: to eat up space and this guy could do that.
• 17:09
  Speaker 7: You know, he's there's a need for a space eating
• 17:12
  Speaker 7: interior defensive lineman.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: So and he could go a little later. He's gettable.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Uh Tommy a king basodic Basodi from Maryland, Yeah, from
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know who that is, six three six. I've
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: got him as a raw talent. So this is like
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: a six round pick. You know, this is a special
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: teams guy probably well six three he's a little big force,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: but you know, I think he's a raw talent's three
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: six three oh six yeah, yeah, no, yeah, so you
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: guys never heard of him from Maryland.
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Maryland has a couple of defensive linemen in this
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: draft that are going to go probably into Day three,
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: early day three for one of whose name is escaping
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: me right now, but Phillips, Jordan Phillips, Yeah, so he's
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: he's the other guy. And then the guy Fred just
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: sort of the later day three guy as well in
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: this class. But both those guys are a little undersized
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: for the interior, but they're really good at like anticipating
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: blocks and beating guys to the spot. You know, see
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: all these outside zone teams nowadays, you had to be
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: able to move latterly and you know, win the gap
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: moving latterly, and both those guys can do it.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: And my final defensive lineman a little bit smaller than
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: the other guys, Tanka Hemingway out of South Carolina six four.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: I have him down as versatile. You know at South Carolina,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: as I was reading, they had him play every position
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: along the line, literally every position along that line. So
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: you know, he's a guy who's going to be a
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: late draft He couldn't even be a free agent. But
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: he's got a lot of versatility.
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: He's built like a truck.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: That's why.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: That's why I literally when I was at the commine,
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: I overheard him telling the story of how he got
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: the nickname Tonka.
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: Okay, I was part of it. Yeah.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: So that's my back of the people job. And I
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: have them written here so you know proof have the
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: back of the envelope and uh you know, when they
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: are taken by the Patriots, I'll have proof that I.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: I just like, say, fred A, I liked that you
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: did it on a envelope, and I also like you
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: weren't picking guys that you're like, I can't even say
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: this guy's name. You were picking the player, like if
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: the name was a little tough to pronounce or remember,
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: you didn't mind. You still went for it. Now you're
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: looking for quality for player.
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: Don't scout the back of the jersey or the helmet.
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: Right right, Well done, Frank, good job.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: So that there you go, and I the success will
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: be apologize for not getting to the defensive backs.
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: But there's just too many of them, true.
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: True, Mac McWilliams, back of the envelope for you just yeah,
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: but you can.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Have them, Matt McWilliams. Yeah, you see, okay.
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: Mac McWilliams all right, slock corner, good player.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, there sounds good. Sounds good. All right, So we're
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: getting closer to the beginning of this draft. Of course,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: it starts at eight o'clock tennis. He's on the clock.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: We all think cam Ward's a lock, right, Is that
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: is that true?
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: Yes, it sounds it. Yeah, it sounds like they've all
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: but kind of signed off on it. I didn't. Mike
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: Berganzi actually said that they are not definitively not moving
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: the pick. He said, now I would assume, yeah, it's
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: for cam Ward.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now, but the rumors are the Cleveland Cleveland is
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: shopping that second pick.
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: It sounds like right now that the mood has changed
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: from the Jaguars going back with Chicago to actually going
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: up with Cleveland, and that the Jaguars and the Browns
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: are going to swap picks, which I just find fascinating
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: from a Cleveland standpoint, Like you're you're going to pass
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: up Travis Hunter is what you're gonna do, right, which
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: I think is crazy just given that their GM literally
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: called him the showe Aotania football and now they're going
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: to decide to pass on him at two. Overall, it
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: better be worth worth it. You know, it better be
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: a haul that they're getting.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I would assume Jacksonville is going to take Hunter, right.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: I would think so, yea, yeah, they're going to give
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: up to get them, And I mean it's a move
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: for them. It seems like they feel like they need
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: to make to get to another level. I know, Liam
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: Cullen being there, just I don't know. I just feel
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: like they're spinning their wheels always. It's never like a
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: direct plan. They blow it up, they start over. They
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: just kind of keep spinning their circles.
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: But we'll see teams. I just for Cleveland at some point,
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: you got to pick some players, right, Like, they just
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: seem like this team that is rudderless, like and now
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: all of a sudden you have this Heisman Trophy winner,
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: two way superstar, and that now you're still not good enough.
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: We're still trading down.
• 21:36
  Speaker 11: Like.
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: I think it's a great spot for those two teams.
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: I mean, obviously, the ideal spot would have been like
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: last year's draft with all those quarterback options, but that's
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: not the reality. So I think they're both in a
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: good spot where they can get really good players in
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: Hunter and Carter and take the second swing at trying
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: to get a developmental quarterback, because I don't think there's
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: a huge difference developmental wise between Sanders in Dart or
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: even Milrowe is as Evan talked about on our show
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: earlier this afternoon, and just his his raw skills. I
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: think Cleveland and the Giants are crazy for passing up
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: Hunter and Carter. If they do, it's not going to
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: get them in trouble for something they haven't done yet.
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: But that's great.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Speaking of getting in trouble in the Giants, do you
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: hear about what the rumor is that their general manager's
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: son did he had I think he had. He was
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: doing something on Dart and he had to delete it.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Like I forget the exact story, but he had put
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: stuff up on his personal like YouTube site about Dart
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: and then he was told to take it there.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: This is Joe Shane's son.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Last year, get Daniels Joe Shane's son.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: They should hire Joe Shane son to you didn't hear
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: about this?
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: The Giants thing is fascinating to me as well, because
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: I think there's a real divide and that in that
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: organization right now about what to do a quarterback like,
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: I think Brian Dable seems to really like Jackson Dart.
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: He wants to go, you know, up from the second
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: round into the back into the first round to get
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: Jackson Dart. I guess as that ownership is asking them
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: to please don't ten times before making the pick and
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: make sure that you're one hundred percent sure that Shador
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: Sanders is not going to be the next franchise quarterback,
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: you know, to come out of the draft. But both
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: those teams, I feel like are I thought I was
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: gonna give him a ton of credit and Paul's right,
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: we shouldn't, you know, get on them for doing something
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: wrong yet. But I was going to give him a
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: ton of credit for actually doing the right thing and
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: passing on the quarterbacks at the top of the draft.
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: And now both of them feel like they're going to
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: do the wrong thing because that's what they do.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, when do you feel like they settled in on
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: cam Ward being first overall? Because when this whole process started,
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: it felt like it was Carter and Hunter. I agree,
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: I agree, Now Ward's the guy, Like is that just
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: because they sold themselves?
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: I thought the combine finished and Wood was the number
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: one pick, But you guys would know better than I
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: on that, because you guys were there.
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, they They seem to have fallen in love
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: with him more and more as the process has gone along.
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: And I think when you're making a pick at quarterback
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: like that, a lot of it is also the guy
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: like the person. It's going to be the quarterback, it's
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: going to be your franchise, so you have to fall
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: in love with the person as well. And his pro
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: day apparently was very, very impressive. He didn't do much
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: at the combine to really sway any teams, didn't work
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: out or throw or anything like that. But from what
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: all the scuttle butt is is that they really fell
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: in love with the person and really are comfortable with
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: him all around. I think there's plenty of evidence on
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: tape of him making some really high level franchise quarterback throws.
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: Is maybe a little bit more inconsistent than the guys
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: last year. Yeah, but I think that there's a lot
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: to like that.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, as the college season ended, my perspective, what
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: I was hearing was there was no consensus quarterback, and
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: if a quarterback went first, it would be Sanders. He
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: would be the first quarterback taken wherever he was taken,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: not necessarily first overall, but he would be the first
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: quarquarterback off the board. And it wasn't until later that
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: cam Ward became the consensus first quarterback.
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: Off the back or cam Ward by transferring from Washington
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: State to Miami, put himself in that conversation. I don't
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: think people were talking about him going into the season
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: as being a potential top five, top ten pick, but
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: going from Washington State to Miami, which not the SEC
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: but still a much better level of football, his production
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: was off the charts. That's when I think he kind
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: of put himself in that mix. And like I said,
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: I thought at the combine he came up. Maybe he
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: just really impressed a lot of teams at the combine
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: with as Evan said, you sort of you sell yourself
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: on the guy as much as the player, because let's
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: face it, the players all have ability, but at that position,
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: it's so important to have everything else too. Maybe they
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: were all convinced that he has what it takes off
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: the field to be the leader in the face of
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: the franchise.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: See that, to me is why I think should Or
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: Sanders is going to go in the top fifteen tonight.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: I just think that he's going to make teams believe
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: so funny.
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: That's why I think he's I don't think he exudes
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: leader in the face of the franchise.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: What you hear what that GM said about him, that he's.
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: The worst interview he's ever had.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: A formal interview, the worst he's ever had.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'll, yeah, I like, I'll give teams a
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: lot of credit if they if that's if that's the
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: case and they don't take him early tonight. I just
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: think so many teams operating from a position to scared.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: And I'm on your side, Paul, like I view it
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: the same way. But I just think that when guys
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: come in with so much confidence, there's always a group
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: of people who are going to buy it and who
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: are going to say he must know something, like he
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: just has something about him. I don't know what it is.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: And I just I think that that confidence. I've seen
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: it so many times where people have so much self
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: confidence in what they're doing, even if they're selling total bs,
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: that people out there, there are people out there desperate
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: enough to buy it. And we'll see tonight if people
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: do see through it. And like I kind of to
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: do and I don't feel like it's real.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: But you got to combine that with the tape though.
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the one thing I want to give Sanders a
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: little bit of an out forward that I don't know
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: is how much of the things that I You know,
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: this is not about me, but I'm just saying from
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: my perspective, how much of the things that I don't
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: like about him is holding the ball too long, running
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: around kind of aimlessly not necessarily, Like how much of
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: that is related to his personnel? Like could he be
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: better in a structured environment with with with a structured offense?
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: Like does he have the ability to get the ball
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: on timing back footballs out accuracy? Maybe he's better in
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: a better offense, and maybe he does have more ability
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: that I'm giving him credit for. I don't see the
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: physical skills when I watch him, and that's why I
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: would be passing on him and seeing if I could
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: get him in the second round if I were the
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: Giants or the Browns. But maybe I'm not giving him
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: enough credit. Maybe that's because of poor line play and
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: all the other things that go with it.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: At Colorado, it's a it's a gimmicky offense at Colorados.
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: There's not a ton of like NFL style dropbacks on
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: his tape in general, so you really are dealing with
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: a smaller sample size of that kind of stuff. I
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: think the two things that that teams are concerned about
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: with Sanders one his athleticism in and out of the
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: pocket to escape the rush. Like it just he doesn't
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: really have a ton of a you know, athleticism, sudden movement,
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: you know, that kind of stuff to elude sacks and
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: to get out of the pocket and make things happen.
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: There's also, you know, from a real quarterback junkie standpoint,
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: some concerns about his mechanics and the way that he
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: throws the football from a rotational standpoint that a lot
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: of people think that he's going to have to kind
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: of rework the way that he throws at the ball,
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: you know, rotating around the axis and stuff like that,
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: and and that that can be a real deal breaker.
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: You know that he might not be able to do that.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Well, we're about a minute away from Tennessee being on
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: the clock around seven o'clock. Adam Schefter tweeted this out.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys saw it. He says.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: When assessing how the top ten picks tonight will unfold,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: one well placed source said, expect explosives. So I think,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: you know, there's there's been a lot of talk. There
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: hasn't been a first round trade yet in this draft.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I think that's gonna change in a big way.
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: Do you think that explosives means like a lot of
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: skilled position players going in the top ten.
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: That's how I took it because I kind of felt
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: that way for a while that maybe there would be
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: a significant.
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: Maybe like Travis Hunter, Ashton, gent Y, Tyler, Warren, Tep, McMillan,
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: Tech McMillan, maybe Colston Loveland, Matthew Golden. Matthew Golden. Yeah,
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: is that what he's talking about or is he talking
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: about like unexpect like explosive. I thought he was going
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: to say expect the unexpected, but said explosives.
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: It's unclear what it exactly means.
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: But I mean, I see it as a way, but
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: I mean, I'm not making fun of Schefter. That's why
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: he's that's why he's good. But that's like, let it
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: be open to the interpretation, you know, like the guy
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: who's consuming it could mean a lot of I.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Guess in a draft like this, maybe if you've got
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: to swing, swing big and take a chance on the
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: skill position player, and you know, if it doesn't work out,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: well you took a shot.
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: I think that's part of the I don't know if
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: the word is the problem, but there's so much similarity
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: in the middle of this first round, into second round,
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: and then on into the second day that do you
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: really fall in love with any of these players that
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: are from ten to thirty five? I think you could
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: probably be talked off the spot on just about all
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: of them. So maybe teams are saying that they're just, look,
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: we don't love love any of these guys in the middle.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: Let's package our two picks, go go get a guy
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: that we really do love and that we think will
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: actually move the needle instead of Yeah. I mean, I've
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: heard a lot of people talk about it today that
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: this is a solid draft, you know. I mean, we
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: talked about it too. I think I've had a great
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: way of putting it. This is a starter draft. It's
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: not a superstar draft.
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: What is it kind of draft?
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: It's a starter draft blue clothes, Well, it's a blue
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: qual college draft.
• 30:57
  Speaker 12: Yeah, Yeah, Jeff for us, Evan, don't let them get
• 31:05
  Speaker 12: your dressed for the job, you know what I mean.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: You know, any players from Sternford, you dress how you
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: feel and you're excited. These guys, I don't know so much.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: We have a uh doctor mc cartoon.
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: I mean, make much sense, Like my cold strange should
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: probably be with me.
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: You know, yeah, right, you know that's all right, Dawes,
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: you've done better.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: I uh, well you got you got Evan with the
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: mono brow though.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know what's.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Going on there.
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: I just wonder, you know, it would have been funny
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: if you put yeah, it's good Lombo.
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: There's just so much talent on the on the defensive
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: side of the ball in this draft, and the edge
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: rusher talent. Like I just wonder if a lot of
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: teams are going to ask themselves, do we really need
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: to take Jalen Walker, Michael Williams or one of these
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: guys in the top ten when on Day two there's
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: good to be a lutany of guys that are also
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: going to be available that we can just take and
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: play the same position. And I you know the same
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: thing as running back, right, It's kind of the same
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: sort of deal. There as well. And so when you
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: look at the skill position players, the receivers, the tight
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: ends that even you know go to the line and
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: go to left tackle, like, those are the spots where
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: there isn't as much depth and a draft like this.
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: So if you're one of these teams in the top
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: ten that really wants a wide receiver, are you taking
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: Ted McMillan and waiting till Day two to draft Jack
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: Betch or Jaden Higgins or you know, like, what are
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: you gonna do at that spot if you don't take
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: tech in the top ten.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why it's just surprising to me. I can
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: understand teams wanting to trade out for Carter Hunter. After that,
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: it's it's hard to see a team really like I
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: gotta go.
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: That's why I'm okay with the Will Campbell plan instead
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: of Jalen Walker, because I really like Jalen Walker and
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: I'd like to take a shot at him. But I
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: think you guys have sort of convinced me that the
• 32:54
  Speaker 7: difference between Walker and someone you could get twenty to
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: thirty picks later at the same position probably isn't great.
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: I do think there's a I don't I don't think
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: there's a lot of tackles in this draft. I do
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: think there are a lot of edge guys. Yeah.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Uh, Indy and Sioux City, South Dakota says that Duce
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: looks like he's on his way to church, which, yeah,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: or at least the church dinner. You know, the ham
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: and bean dinner that they're having.
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: Uh, you know the body of chrust.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I don't either. We got was this
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Roger Goodell on a bike?
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: Get it? He's very clever.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're watching NFL network. I'm sure they've got it on.
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: If he just rode Roger off right off the stage,
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: I'd be a little worried.
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: He tries to be coming.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: If they keep going stage so uh and now now
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: everybody's on a bike. Isn't that cute? That's so cute?
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: These guys a little more comfortable than others on a bike.
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, a little way.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: They that that's for Will Camp?
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: How high.
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: That's? But isn't like that? He's a New Orleans guy?
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 34:06
  Speaker 13: I was?
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw the gable Wayne.
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: Where was the super Bowl this year? New Orleans? New
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: Orleans guy?
• 34:11
  Speaker 14: Yeah?
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you want some Draft day trivia while we
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: wait for this pick.
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, this Draft day trivia.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, the NFL has actually the draft has actually
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: been held in Wisconsin before I heard that. Do you
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: know the town that it was held in the year?
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: It was Milwaukee.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: It was Milwaukee in nineteen forty, so I didn't even
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: know they had the draft of nineteen Who the draft?
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: I actually read a story about.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: The guys, how many guys are available?
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: So does this mean the draft is officially starting now?
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: It seems like.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: It's uh, well, the clock hasn't started.
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: You know, Tennessee is not officially up yet because Goodell
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: usually opens the draft with this little thing that he
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: gets boot at, right.
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we need like the what's the little chime?
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Something like that.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: I love that time.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Through its history, the NFL Draft has predominantly been held
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: in New York City wopping fifty seven times. Can you
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: name the cities that have hosted the draft? Second and
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: third most Detroit incorrect year?
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: Philadelphia yes, twelve times?
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Who's after Philly?
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: Washington, no big city staying I was staying in Chicago
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: nine times.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Since twenty fifteen, there have only been two first overall
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: picks taken that were not quarterbacks. Can you name those
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: two players since twenty fifteen.
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: Oh, Mario Williams incorrect four fifteen fifteen.
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: I thought we were just going in general here.
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: Who's the number one overall pick? The Kenny pick a
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: year Trayvon Walker.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Trayvon Walker was correct twenty twenty. The other one was
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: picked in twenty seventeen. Still playing obviously, isn't the tackle
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: he is very highly Miles Miles Garrett.
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: Yes, that's took me way too long.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: But got it, don't Scaret?
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: I get this one's a little tougher.
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: This year, the top four picks are held by Tennessee, Cleveland,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: New York Giants in New England. Can you name the
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: players those teams picked the last time they drafted in
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: those spots?
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: Okay, so Tennessee one would be.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: They weren't the they weren't the Titans back then, Campbell
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Earl Campbell's correct.
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: N The second would that be Miles Garrett?
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: No, he was one.
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: Oh it's two. Yeah, so they had to be picking
• 36:44
  Speaker 7: Courtney Brown.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: No. I think it was was Belichick there then at
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: that time. I'll give you the year ninety one, yeah, probably, yeah,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: not necessarily a first round town.
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: Well if it wasn't the first round talent Bill pick? Right?
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Eric Turner?
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: Isn't it nice that we can do that now? We
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: couldn't do that right for twenty years because Frederi get
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: mad at me.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you, Eric, to.
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: Be honest with you. I think Bill was a good
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: draft for the Patriots and died. I've died on that
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: hill before.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: You said, very good.
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: So who was it, Eric, Eric Turner? That good player?
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Not the Giants?
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: Three?
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: Three?
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Think think when Parcells was there?
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: That wouldn't have happened if Parcells was here.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Lawrence Taylor, No, but you got the position right linebacker
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Carl Banks nineteen eighty four.
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: It was the third pick.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: And then who were the Patriots last time?
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: They picked? Four Will.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety four?
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: Its are on the clock, all right, here we go.
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: We officially up. Yes, the clock is okay.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: So they're doing ten minutes between picks.
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: In the first draft started at eight oh eighty.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Remember it wasn't that when there was fifteen minutes between picks.
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: I think there should be more time between picks.
• 38:05
  Speaker 7: There should do less. Yeah, I think.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Everybody a baseball route.
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: I think everybody should have thirty seconds to make a right,
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: especially in the first round.
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: These are big decisions. You're making your field and trade call,
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: and I.
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: Would hope you've already made it, thank you, Fred Kirch.
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: Okay, but maybe yeah one. But like once you get
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: down into the into the twenty stuff like you have
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: to reset the board five.
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: Minutes for every pick, and then once you get to
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: like the third round, four minutes.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Well I think that maybe I would say, Okay, they
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: can have they can have fifteen minutes like Eric, But
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: after every three minutes you have like a little shock
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: ding and it increasingly gets.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: I love torture.
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we involved with the job.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: So like after ten minutes, if you haven't you get, you.
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: Get ten minutes. But for every minute you take, you
• 38:50
  Speaker 7: lose cap space.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, you go.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: I mean you need some kind of reward right now.
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: If Tennessee just walked right up at nine to fifty,
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: you know, two, and we're like, yeah, came more.
• 38:59
  Speaker 7: Why are we gonna sit around if it ends up
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: being just for the sake of dis argument, if it
• 39:04
  Speaker 7: ends up being cam Ward Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter, Will
• 39:07
  Speaker 7: Campbell right, So, in other words, the four picks that
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: everybody no, But if those were the four picks like
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: the betting like you go on DraftKings and that's what
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: everybody overwhelming odds. Why can't that just take the next half,
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: the next four minutes, that's what That's what TV exactly,
• 39:28
  Speaker 7: that's all. This is all all.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Like if I'm the Titans, though, and I really believe
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: in cam Ward. Pick is in like show the players
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: stated that you're fielding.
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: No, you probably stated that.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: My guy just sitting there doing it for sale.
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: The pick is not for They literally say to him,
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: do not call this in until two minutes are on
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: the clock because we want to milk it on TV.
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: They literally tell them like that, but you have well.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I'm just playing. That's a cam Ward. I'm letting cam Ward.
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: This is to take it up with Goodella and ESPN.
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: This has nothing to do with the Titans. The Titans
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: would make the pick right this second right. They want
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: to stop. Remember what they did with Bloodsoe? Did they
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: run the Bloodsoe pick right?
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: And I wasn't. I wasn't working at the time, they.
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: Weren't watching unemployed.
• 40:17
  Speaker 10: The Patriots have only picked fourth overall two other times
• 40:20
  Speaker 10: prior to John Hannah Yes and Phil Olson and Phil Olson.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: That is correct. When was the last time the Patriots
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: made two picks in the first round? What year? And
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: who did they select?
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: High Tower in twelve?
• 40:33
  Speaker 7: Twenty twelve?
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, come on, you know better than that two picks
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: in the first round.
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: It wasn't.
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: I just tried to bought that out. I just try
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: to just forget that one.
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: They won the Super Bowl.
• 40:45
  Speaker 7: I was with Evan. I thought it was High Tower.
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: And yeah, we don't remember that one as well. We
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: don't always bring the High Tower.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: And remember that.
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: Year Man twenty twelve, the trade back up they got
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: two players.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: When was the last time the Patriots did not make
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: pick in the first round?
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: Twenty seventeen?
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Incorrect?
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, duggah Douga twenty twenty.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Right, twenty twenty.
• 41:06
  Speaker 7: I wouldn't have gotten the year, but I just Kyle
• 41:08
  Speaker 7: Dugger was the second round pick.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: All right, Final question, We did that whole draft show.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Final question. The Patriots were one game away from having
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: the first or overall pick this year. Yeah, we know
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: in the past they have had the first overall pick
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: five times. Can you name the players selected with those picks?
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Number one overall picks you were five times? Jim Plunkett
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: that's one seventy one, Bledsoe nineteen ninety three, Ken Simms, Yes,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: serving serving Friar one more. This is back in your time,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Paul in the sixties.
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: It's not time, bo Palini.
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: No, first of all, Babe.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: I'll give you the year Fred not Evan.
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: Keep up.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: I'll give you the year and the position. And to me,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: I still wouldn't get it. Nineteen sixty four quarterback.
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: It's not it's not, the guy said to Bopolini.
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: No, uh, Mike Taliferro, Nope, Jack Kunk Cannon, Jack Cannon
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: from Boston College.
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they're gonna take Camaron.
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: Cam Ward live on sturdy in pocket, Baker Mayfield.
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: I think he's a better athlete than Baker Mayfield.
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: He is a better athlete.
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: So we're waiting for the Titans to officially make their pick.
• 42:24
  Speaker 7: But I think Sanders is more like Baker Mayfield than.
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: You can see that. I think when I saw you know,
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: I didn't watch a ton of cam Moore, but the
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: little bit that I did, I saw a little bit
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: of Russell Wilson in his game, Like they are just
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: spinning out of the pocket, you know, doing Russell stuff,
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: moving around, throwing the ball in the move, good arm strength,
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: good deep.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: So while we wait for this pick, let's hit the hotline.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Eight five five pats, five hundred. Luke's in Boston. What's up, Luke?
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: What Hey?
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Turn it up, Matt Hey.
• 42:53
  Speaker 9: We just want to call in and say, I think
• 42:55
  Speaker 9: there's a guy in the third round we should really
• 42:57
  Speaker 9: look at from Stanford.
• 42:59
  Speaker 15: I mean, there's a long.
• 43:00
  Speaker 9: Guy you can play on. You can blame the flax,
• 43:03
  Speaker 9: play on the outside. He's got great numbers, junior, senior year,
• 43:07
  Speaker 9: came back from an eighthl there, I think ale third round.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Of all the people, of all the people eligible in
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: the draft, why did you hit on this guy?
• 43:21
  Speaker 16: Well, here's the thing.
• 43:22
  Speaker 9: I'm from Stanford, California.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I don't know who he is. You
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: know him?
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: I believe it or not. I actually know who this
• 43:30
  Speaker 7: guy is. Oh yeah, I think he Stanford.
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: I think he actually means he actually.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: He knows you know him personally, Luke.
• 43:38
  Speaker 17: No, I don't know him.
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: Okay, person you wouldn't mispronounced his name, right, that's no.
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: I think he's He's a guy that Evan's talked about
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: a lot as a potential sort of Okay, third fourth round. Yeah.
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, his tap against Travis Hunter was really good in
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: twenty three. That's kind of the tape that everybody holds
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: up with him. I compared him a little bit to
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: like Juju. You know, he's got like a powerful center
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: of gravity and good hands over the middle of the field.
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: He has some weird drops, but I think that he's
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: pretty consistent in traffic areas and things like that. Has
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: a little bit of juice on the outside if you
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: want him to stat, but he's not like a big
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: time burner. I like him at like first two levels,
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: you know, slants inbreakers, things like that. I think he's
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: got some skill there, but I would prefer somebody that's
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: a little bit more of a natural separator than him.
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: I'm worried he's gonna wear some coverage in the NFL,
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: but I can see where people are coming from.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: All right, thanks for the call, Luke. That's Luke's BTT
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: guy or PTT. Which do you want to go with?
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: PTT?
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: In the movie, we have a trade, We have a trade.
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: We got the trade. The Browns and Jack, the Browns
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: and Jaguars have officially made a trade.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: Oh oh, and the Titans are about to take camp More.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, so we do have a trade, all right,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: So we'll get to that. But here's the Titan selection.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Roger Goodell.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: We're the first pick in the five NFL draft.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: The Tennessee Titan select Cameron Board quarterback timing. Okay, I
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: thought it was gonna be somebody else it wait's over
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: for cam Ward.
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: So you want to hear the trade terms?
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah, let's go, all right, they get a first round out.
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: So the Browns are trading the number two overall pick,
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: a fourth round pick, and a sixth round pick to
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: the Jaguars for the fifth overall pick, a second round pick,
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: a fourth round pick, and a twenty twenty six first
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: round pick.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's all.
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: So basically the big picks here, number five, number thirty
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: six in the future, one going back to Cleveland for
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: the number two overall pick, and Jacksonville officially on the clock.
• 45:40
  Speaker 7: Now, so does Jacksonville take Travis Hunter? I would think so,
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: you know, because you don't think they moved up to
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: try to make sure they secured Ashton Genty.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Dude, No, what about Carter? No, not worth it?
• 45:52
  Speaker 7: Oh, he's worth it. But I would think that they're
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: looking offense just based.
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: On everything that all the reporting is that they are
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: looking for touchdowns. That's the that's the verbal.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: So do you think, you know, the Jaguars have an
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: owner who I would call him involved. Do you think
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: that this is an owner saying I want the guy
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: who's going to sell tickets.
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: It could kind of be. I mean that's what Travis
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: Hunter is. I mean, he's a draw. He's somebody who's
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: going to you know, pair him with Trevor Lawrence and
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: you know, now you've got a little bit more of
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: a spark there.
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: Perhaps I like the trade for Cleveland, Yeah, I do.
• 46:26
  Speaker 7: That's you get an early second you said, and then
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: a future one. Yea, and you're just going down to
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: and you're just going down three spots, right.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: I think this is a hall.
• 46:37
  Speaker 7: I mean the rest of that is coffee, you know,
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: smoke filled coffee, house craft. Those swapping of.
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: The well, you're getting it to the top of it
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: at the top of the second round, and you're getting
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: your future one.
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you are only going to You're still you're still
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: at five.
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: But it's a two player draft, so you just trade
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: it out of Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter like, maybe
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: the Browns love genty and they're going to go down
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: to five and they're gonna expect the Patriots and the
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: Giants to do what they're going to do and then
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: take Gent at five.
• 47:05
  Speaker 7: I wouldn't like this as much if they do that.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: That that for the Browns, they think this, that's this
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: is goal for them. This is they've they've hit it.
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: I think that it's a two player draft and you
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: just trade it out of one of the two players.
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: It's a good haul, I suppose. I mean, it's a
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: decent haul, but I I if I was a Browns fan,
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: I'd be a little disappointed that they're going to pass
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: on the two you know, consensus blue chip guys.
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: Well that's fair.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, I actually you're gonna have two first round picks, so.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's fair. This is I mean, this
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: is surprising to me. We all talked the last couple
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: of weeks. It seemed like, oh, it's chalk, we know
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: what's going to happen. And then here we get twenty
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: minutes before the draft starts and you start getting these rumors.
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: But you know, I just say this, we're gonna get
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: probably a lot of calls about how the Patriots could
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: have been first overall have they lost that last game,
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: And it just goes to show that some teams are
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: well still willing to make those hard decisions. It's like
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: said they get out to two player draft and they
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: said people will pass on they had interest in one
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: of those two players. Yeah, so they would have been interesting.
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: I think if they you know, this is something that
• 48:05
  Speaker 7: Evan was on Mike and you and I sort of
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: were met about it.
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: I think there was value in one, you know, the
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: one O two in the two player draft for sure, certainly.
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: I mean, if they were at one overall at the
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: quarterback just went one overall, So you're looking at probably
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: an even better haul than what Cleveland just got for
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: the first overall pick. As a team that doesn't need
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: a quarterback, the Patriots probably could have made this trade
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: with Tennessee and and you know it only fell one spot,
• 48:31
  Speaker 6: two spots to probably get a future first round pick.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: All right, Uh, quickly, I do this with dread in
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: my heart. Christian in LA, what's going on? Quickly because
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: we don't know what's gonna happen here? Christian? All right, Okay,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: I can't what's up? I couldn't hear. Yeah, let's go
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: to uh clem in Arlington in Virginia. What's up, Clem?
• 49:03
  Speaker 18: Hey?
• 49:03
  Speaker 19: This is a Tim ten?
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 49:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 49:07
  Speaker 19: Hey, Fred Jan turn it.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Up, Matt.
• 49:12
  Speaker 19: Yeah, I'll go really quick because I know you all
• 49:15
  Speaker 19: are looking at the pick. My biggest I think we're
• 49:17
  Speaker 19: gonna take Campbell at four, but my biggest dread is
• 49:20
  Speaker 19: that we come away with tech McMillan, that we're going
• 49:22
  Speaker 19: to trade back up. The reason is he's a slower receiver.
• 49:26
  Speaker 19: All of our receivers except Pop are on the slower end.
• 49:29
  Speaker 19: Even the Baker was like a mid four to five guy.
• 49:32
  Speaker 19: And I'm not saying you need to, you know, throw
• 49:34
  Speaker 19: it down the field every place, but because literally all
• 49:37
  Speaker 19: our guys are slow, you know, the safeties don't.
• 49:39
  Speaker 18: Have to worry.
• 49:40
  Speaker 19: And I would really like if we get a receiver
• 49:42
  Speaker 19: for it not to be another guy who's his strength
• 49:45
  Speaker 19: does not a speed, which none of our receivers are.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: Your later well, yeah, I mean I don't think all right,
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: I'm talking about taking Ted.
• 49:53
  Speaker 7: Fred being very dismissive of early for that. I lost
• 49:57
  Speaker 7: the other call too. I don't know where he went.
• 50:00
  Speaker 7: Fred Lake Yeah, sort's.
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: Gonna be on it tonight. It's a draft.
• 50:04
  Speaker 7: Maybe I want to come back with that.
• 50:06
  Speaker 17: I don't know.
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: They just signed Stefan Digs He's pretty fast.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, pick us in for Jacksonville. We don't. We don't
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: know who it is yet. Are we tipping picks?
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: I don't know. That's the question I was gonna ask you, do.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: We want to tip pick everyone but the Patriots. I
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: don't care.
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: We don't care.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna die.
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: We're not tipping picks.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: So jackson They'll trade it up to get Travis Hunter,
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: and uh makes sense. This was the guy, probably the
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: best guy available in the draft overall.
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: So the Patriots are on deck here.
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: It's a lot of intrigue, and I mean, a new
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: coaching staff. Just interesting to see what they do with
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: Travis Hunter. We talked about if he was drafted to
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: the Patriots, we knew we'd probably be broken in as
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: a wide receiver and supplemented as a cornerback. But I
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: got to assume Jacksonville's bringing him there to catch touchdowns
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: and play on the offensive side of the ball. But
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: you know, it's a new coaching staff. How are they
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: going to employ him? I mean Leam Collen, first time
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: head coach, right, I mean, it's a pretty big responsibility.
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: I mean that's something that you know, I thought about
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: the Patriots to take Travis Hunter. How these offensive coaches,
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: Josh muctaniels, there's a lot of pressure on them to
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: take this guy who you know clearly now Jacksonville has
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: given up a lot of capital to get this kid.
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: He's got to work like this coaching staff has to
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: make sure that he does.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: He have to work at wide receiver.
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, yes, I think, but the Patriots would have
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: to work about jackson I think.
• 51:29
  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know what they need.
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: They need. They needed everything they need corner and receiver.
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: But from everything that's come out of Jacksonville and some
• 51:38
  Speaker 6: of the reporting out of their pre draft was that
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: they were looking for skilled players. And that's why Genty
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: came name came up. I had Ted McMillan going to
• 51:45
  Speaker 6: them because I didn't think that.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: By the way, Ted doesn't like to be called tet.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: He's t mac. He's Ted, and I'm serious. He says
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: his mother would get insulted if you call him tet.
• 51:55
  Speaker 10: Okay, t mac t mac is okay, She likes that, Yeah,
• 52:00
  Speaker 10: but not so.
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: I would assume that this is to pair him with
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: Brian Thomas Jr. And to move forward with Trevor Lawrence
• 52:06
  Speaker 6: and let's.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Go to the podium.
• 52:13
  Speaker 7: Let's go to the podium.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: No, okay, okay, so he's not talking, Okay, just cut
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: in and he just yeah, just cut me off when
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: when he starts talking about the pick.
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: He's doing that period that Andy Hart would be disrespectful, right,
• 52:30
  Speaker 7: And then it's like an a wish, kids, we don't
• 52:31
  Speaker 7: want to do that. I didn't have to necessarily say exactly.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: While we're waiting sea bass and masses outright back at
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: coach Michael George Vrabel. Here, I am trying to enjoy
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: the evening with the family at our third home in
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: the Riviera, and my eyes are assaulted out here.
• 52:46
  Speaker 7: We go, har arms.
• 52:57
  Speaker 20: I want to say thank you to the commissioner, thank
• 53:00
  Speaker 20: you to the Peyton family in the NFL and nationwide,
• 53:03
  Speaker 20: and also too tonight. I want to encourage each player
• 53:07
  Speaker 20: embarking on the NFL journey to identify a passion close
• 53:11
  Speaker 20: to their heart and act upon it. Use your platform
• 53:14
  Speaker 20: to make your community, the league, in this world a
• 53:17
  Speaker 20: better place as we remember Walter Payton tried to leave
• 53:22
  Speaker 20: a positive legacy of your own.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: We have a trade.
• 53:40
  Speaker 21: The Cleveland Browns have traded the second pick to the
• 53:43
  Speaker 21: Jacksonville Jaguars, and with the second pick in the two
• 53:51
  Speaker 21: twenty twenty five NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguars select Travis
• 53:57
  Speaker 21: Hunters Robers.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, it took that Travis Hunter Jacksonville draft. Good for
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence.
• 54:06
  Speaker 7: Joe Banner agrees with with us what he said. The
• 54:09
  Speaker 7: Jaguars have lost their minds and the Browns take advantage.
• 54:12
  Speaker 7: Really yeah, Joe Banner former, I don't.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: Think Evin thinks they lost their mind Baguar.
• 54:18
  Speaker 6: He think the Browns lost their minds.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, he thinks the Browns traded out of
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: it two man draft.
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: The Browns lost their minds.
• 54:25
  Speaker 7: I don't think that. I don't.
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: I would like players, not picks. I have no sense.
• 54:30
  Speaker 6: Send like, I don't know what that twenty twenty six
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: first is going to turn into. Like Jacksonville was just
• 54:34
  Speaker 6: in the playoffs two years.
• 54:35
  Speaker 7: I don't know. But they still have the fifth pick.
• 54:37
  Speaker 7: They could still get.
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: A player, but it's not going to be Travis Hunter.
• 54:40
  Speaker 7: No, they I will guarantee you will not be Travis Hunter.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: All offseason we've been talking about it's a two player draft.
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: They just traded out of the two players.
• 54:48
  Speaker 7: I think they got a lot. I think they got
• 54:49
  Speaker 7: a lot for that pick.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: They did.
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: For what it's worth. Andrew Brandt said Browns had to
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: do that an offer they couldn't refuse.
• 54:55
  Speaker 7: Yeap, what Wade couldn't refuse.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Look at Travis Hunter is just hopping to the podium.
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: He knows he got drafted by the jackson Listen.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: It's it's good for him. Look at him dance. Wow,
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: good for him.
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: He's a fun player. Look, we flirted with the idea
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: of him coming here during the spring when you didn't
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: really know what was gonna happen. And there's no question
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: he's gonna bring a jolt of life in many different
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: ways to that franchise. And then they should be really excited.
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's we'll see how it comes together. We
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: know it's hard to solve that problem in Jackson alone.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: So Jacksonville Jaguar was putting fannies in the seats with
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: the pick of Travis Hunter.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, do you think there's a chance, like just
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: to play negative Nelly because it's not our team now,
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: but like that they get caught trying to do too
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: much stuff with him and then he gets overwhelmed and
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: he doesn't really make an impact on either side of
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: There is a chance, you know, I worried about it.
• 55:47
  Speaker 7: I don't want to come I don't think it's a
• 55:48
  Speaker 7: big chance. I don't want to come off as being
• 55:50
  Speaker 7: a fraud because I think Travis Hunter is an excellent,
• 55:52
  Speaker 7: excellent player. I just don't think I'm as high on
• 55:54
  Speaker 7: him as Evans. I don't think that he is as
• 55:57
  Speaker 7: good a wide receiver as Evan thinks he is. I
• 55:59
  Speaker 7: do think you could be as good a cornerback well,
• 56:02
  Speaker 7: but that doesn't seem like everybody wants to use him there.
• 56:05
  Speaker 7: I don't even the whole two way thing would kind
• 56:07
  Speaker 7: of worry me.
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: I'm not even so much as like saying that I
• 56:11
  Speaker 6: think that you know he's going to be a Hall
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: of famer. Lock it in. It's just like this draft class,
• 56:17
  Speaker 6: the talent drop off is significant, so you're trading out
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: of two of the guys that everybody agrees are blue
• 56:23
  Speaker 6: chip players in any draft.
• 56:24
  Speaker 7: I think he has blue chip ability I'm not sure
• 56:26
  Speaker 7: he's going to be that though, because I think he's
• 56:28
  Speaker 7: going to try to do too much. I think he's
• 56:30
  Speaker 7: really really hell bent on playing both ways, and I
• 56:32
  Speaker 7: think that's going to be to his detriment.
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll see. I think that he'll most likely major
• 56:38
  Speaker 6: in playing wide receiver, and eventually they will stack on
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: defense to appease him. But I don't think I think
• 56:44
  Speaker 6: it's going to be similar to, you know, a little
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: bit more volume, but like a similar idea as Marcus Jones,
• 56:51
  Speaker 6: where it's like, yeah, you might play you know, we'll
• 56:53
  Speaker 6: let you play a little bit on defense to make
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: you feel good about your opposite.
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: I would want to be like Marcus Jones play defense
• 56:58
  Speaker 7: and will let you dabble on offense. I don't think
• 57:01
  Speaker 7: it's going to be that way, and I don't think
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: he's going to be special offensively. I think he could
• 57:04
  Speaker 7: be special defense.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Well, do you think that the only way that you
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: do what Jacksonville did is is that your intention is
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: to play.
• 57:11
  Speaker 7: Him at wide receiver.
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: I would have a major in why I would think so,
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: but I would I would think at the same time,
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: I think he's a whole package too that that comes
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: with you know, everything that comes with what childa center is.
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: I just I think with Brian Thomas though there that
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: that helps it a little bit, just for me, how
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: to what.
• 57:28
  Speaker 7: You said about ten minutes ago, Mike is the reason
• 57:31
  Speaker 7: I think they made this pick. And then it's not
• 57:33
  Speaker 7: good reasons. It's like, this is something you can sell,
• 57:37
  Speaker 7: you know, your fan base, it's a market that needs
• 57:39
  Speaker 7: that buzz. It might work. So the Patriots he's a special,
• 57:44
  Speaker 7: special player.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: So the Giants pick is it might work. The Giants
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: pick is in no trades, right.
• 57:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they rushed this card up to doors. They rushed
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: this card up up to It's not it's not going
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: to be a quarterback.
• 57:59
  Speaker 7: No, it's going to be car right.
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know are you tipping picks or not?
• 58:02
  Speaker 6: Because I don't know.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, yeah, it'll be okay.
• 58:05
  Speaker 6: So they're going to take Abdul Carter. So the Patriots
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: are on the clock and the exact kind of spot
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: that we all thought they would be in here.
• 58:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we've already got the start of the tweets like
• 58:14
  Speaker 7: please don't tip picks, but oh did we Yeah, we
• 58:17
  Speaker 7: just got one.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: To finish up Sea Bass and mass He's very upset
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: with Mike Rabel being a court side at the Celtics
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: game wearing shoes without socks. He says, it's one thing
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: at the league meeting when you got Andy Reid and
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: his Hawaiian shirts soaking up the air in the room,
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: but court side of the garden during the playoffs garbage.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: I say, get it out of here. I barely wanted
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: to see my mistress after the U and ended up
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: just exchanging pictures of expensive things we own with Christian
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: in La. Who invented the silly style? And how did
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: they not think of the smell? Well, we'd have to
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: ask Matt no socks, I mean that's the style.
• 58:52
  Speaker 7: That's that's that's.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: At the leather loafers with no sock.
• 58:56
  Speaker 7: I would not say it's the style. I would say
• 58:57
  Speaker 7: it's it's a style.
• 59:00
  Speaker 22: Cardo.
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: We know there was foot socks though, right, maybe those
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: socks were a little low. You're still getting some socks, fairness.
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: I do wear those me too. Yeah, I don't know
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: what's in style, though I realize I'm old enough now that.
• 59:11
  Speaker 7: You can't see them, right. No, you would never know
• 59:13
  Speaker 7: that you have.
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: Long socks, short socks, baggy jeans, tight jeans. Like I've
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: been around long, everything comes around. I feel like you
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: just need one of each, and then you wait for
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: each trend to come, wait for them, and you just
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: run all back on my bag.
• 59:23
  Speaker 7: You wait for the young people to tell you which
• 59:25
  Speaker 7: one of those things.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: They're all on.
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: Baggy jeans now, baggy jeans are bag jeans. Baggye jeans
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: are huge.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Really, that's I mean, that's yeah, that's true.
• 59:32
  Speaker 7: I have seen that. You know it's a bad look.
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: I mean, you go out, you just see the young people.
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: They're all drastic, exactly like Carter.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: Hey, all right, giant.
• 59:42
  Speaker 7: So I have to be honest. Ever since that Abdul
• 59:44
  Speaker 7: Carter tweeted out the picture of himself and like the
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: l t get like, I didn't think there was any
• 59:50
  Speaker 7: chance at all. But that's that's the first step of
• 59:54
  Speaker 7: my well, probably number thirteen Mike's way with.
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: Could I tee you up, though, Paul to talk unless
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: you your take about Abdul Carter with the giants and
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: you know they have to with defensive ends with burns
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: and thibodeaux and talk about your.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 7: Plants, something that they've done with a tremendous amount of success.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 7: They go with the theory of you know, you can
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: never have too much pitching in baseball, you can never
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 7: have too many corners, and you can never have too
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 7: many pass rushers. They they did it with tremendous success,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 7: and we have only ourselves to look at here in
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 7: the O seven Super Bowl. What was a big part
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 7: of their success that day is their dominance up front
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 7: with Strahan and Umnyora and justin touch. You know, they
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 7: had I even want to go back to like Matthias
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 7: kewanve like they had a lot of depth at defensive end,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 7: and it didn't stop them from continuing to draft high
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 7: on the edge. So I thought, this is something that
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 7: they've done in the past, and they would do it again.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 7: I think, like like Evan said, with Hunter, I think
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 7: Carter's worth it. Those are the two guys.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 6: I just wonder if Keevon Thibodeau is now a trade
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 6: piece for them, and he's now expendable and he has
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 6: an exact act lived up to the draft status of
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 6: being a top ten pick.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 7: He's been okay, nothing specially right, So there's.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: A chance that maybe they're not looking to pay him
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: long term, and whether it's this year or next year,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: he is dealta to make room for Abdul Carter. But
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: Abdul Carter's fantastic player. He can play inside a little bit.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 6: I don't think that's the best usage of him. But
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 6: if you wanted to try to get all three of
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 6: those guys on the field at once, Abdul Carter absolutely
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 6: can stand up over the garden center and rush from
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: the interior like Michael Parsons does. You can do that
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 6: sort of thing with him on third down and it
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: can be a problem for guards and centers.
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  Speaker 5: Correct me if I'm wrong, now, isn't it. The defensive
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: coordator is still Rabels old defensive coordinator from Tennessee as
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: just the Giants defensive coordinator now. I believe if they
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: did not get rid of him last year, they were
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: the new guy he brought in. So just similar kind
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: of defenses we were talking about, similar kind of things
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: you're breaking bringing in. You know that kind of player
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: Abdul Carter would absolutely fit with what they were doing.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: The Patriots pick is in, we will okay, So no
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: trade for the Patriots.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 10: So trade they did not plan a has not materialized
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 10: and your planning and we don't have the ammunition to
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 10: move back yet really without giving away assets that we need.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 7: So what we'll get, we'll wait till the pick and
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 7: then we'll get into the whole trade thing. Because we
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 7: had a good conversation today, Freddy, and I think you
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 7: came down and maybe to get in part of that.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 7: And then you saw that we had a full house
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 7: when we did our show this afternoon. Didn't you stop it? No?
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: No, I had to do so.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: I was just making because I was.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 7: Actually hoping you were coming in. We had a good
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 7: conversation about the trade up from the top of the
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 7: second round back into the first What would you do
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 7: it for? Not necessarily individual, but position wise? Is there
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 7: more than one? You know what you're looking at. I
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 7: think we can get into that after we.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: See the trade up means you trade it down. You
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: didn't get Campbell, and then you have to trade up
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: to get a task.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 7: My guys, the trade up to me would be because
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 7: you didn't get a tackle and you need one, right
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 7: you can't wait.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: Till But now in the first round, I got a
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: player and a tackle, so I'm really happy. But without
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: having to trade down and having those extra assets, now,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not willing to give up what it's gonna take
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: to trade back into the first round.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's fair. I would just say I think there
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: are some edges that it really intrigued me that I
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: think would probably maybe intrigue them to trade up. And yeah,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: we could wait and get one of the other edges,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: but this guy's here. Now, let's go up and go
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: get them. But we'll see how it plays out. I
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: still think that that's something that that should be in
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: play for tonight. Seemed like last year they tried to
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: do it. They made a pick early in the first
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: tried to get back up into the late first.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 7: So people are now tweeting it. So you know, what
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 7: are we doing?
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Will Campbell?
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so Freddy, Yeah, the Patriots select.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: They heard your table pounding in the Will Campbell, let's
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: do it.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 6: Okay, we're all getting We're all yeah, maybe you should
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 6: like stand in front of everybody because you're actually protecting
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 6: the franchise's.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: Look at this, look at this. Well uh it's you know,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: I know, I know there's some questions, but let's just
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: say the positives with this kid tremendous locker room presence. Uh,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: you know, like I said at the top, of the show.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: Feel like he's the leader, kind of a tone setter
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: for the offensive line. Plays with that kind of snarly attitude.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: It's been a left tackle since high school. This is
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: all he knows. Came into l s us. You know,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: it's played there three years. I think he's given up
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: two sacks over the last two years. So phenomenal athlete,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: phenomenal off the field presence, Yes, his length will be
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: will be part of the question. But for a team
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: that has just struggled for left tackle for so long,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: it feels good to feel like, all right, we got
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: a guid a pencil in there on that left tackle spot,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: a legitimate left tackle with real athleticism that I think
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: he can make some real contributions in the run game too,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: getting him out in space, leading the way, leading the charge.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: It's an exciting pick.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: The word over the last two years on how the
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Patriots treated left tackle was neglect. That was the word.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of people say they've neglected that position.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: So you can't say that right now now. They used
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: the fourth overall pick on a left tackle, so they
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: are telling us, yes, we agree, it's a need and
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: we got the best left tackle in this draft.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 6: Ye, it always came down to that for me, the
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 6: marriage between the gaping hole on the left side of
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 6: your offensive line and having a player like Will Campbell
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 6: who exemplifies everything that Mike Rabel wants to represent in
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 6: a football program from a toughness, in leadership and in
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 6: tangible standpoint, and also is a very good player at
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 6: the position as well. Like du said, there's going to
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 6: be concerns. We're going to talk about arm length, We're
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 6: going to talk about you know, is he going to
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 6: last outside, and all those different types of things. But
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 6: over my entire career, this football team they have had
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 6: a need at left tackle for eight straight drafts. They
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 6: have had a need at left tackle. They have never
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 6: found a solution. They've gone year to year, They've kicked
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 6: the can down the road numerous times, and at some
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 6: point the bucks got to stop, like you gotta find
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 6: an answer at one of the most important positions on
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: the football team. And I believe that they have. And
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 6: I'll just say one last thing. Two years in a
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 6: row of watching horrible offensive line play in this region,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 6: just watching quarterbacks get really under pressure at an alarming rate,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 6: you know, forty to fifty percent pressure rates weekend and
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 6: week out. They had to protect the franchise, and Drake
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 6: May is the franchise, and now they have a guy
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 6: that can protect them.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: So Will Campbell is a New England Patriot. I'm excited.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of falling in love with this guy.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 6: I really am easy too.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: He's easy to fall in love. I mean, like I
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: said early in the process, the second I heard him talk,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, he sounds like to me like Taylor Lawan,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: who was you know, had a really close relationship with
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 5: Mike Frabel and Tennessee continues to have a close relationship
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: with him. He's just that kind of guy. He's that
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: offensive lineman and there was a deer hunter too. He's
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: got a little bit of that Mankins in him, and
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: I just I just love the energy he's gonna bring
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: to that room. That room has been beaten up, and
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: honestly deservedly so with with how it went the last
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: couple of years. But the rejuvenation that I think he's
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: going to bring to that group and that toughness, and
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: I just think that alone will do a lot for
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: a room that really really needs that kind of presence.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: So at some point. Let's let's uh, well, first let's
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: go back up to the party and let's see what
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: the reaction is up at the Patriot No. Oh, I'm
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: getting ahead. Nod. No, we can't do that. Not happening.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: Okay, A little glimpse at the Patriots draft from.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Here, Yeah yeah, yeah. So we see Mike Rabel on
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: the phone. Behind him is John Stryker.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 10: Okay, and here comes Roger Goodell to the podium in
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 10: the process of being sneakers.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 23: We're the fourth pick in the twenty five NFL Draft,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 23: the New England Patriot.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: It's like Will Campbell deck on us here.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: So the Patriots decide to go for protection.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 24: Were diamond in the rough quarterback rather than anything else.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Daniel Jeremiah of all the teams.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 25: In this draft, to me, the tackle need for the
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 25: Patriots clearing across all thirty two teams, they had to
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 25: go in this direction. They go with Will Campbell out
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 25: of LSU.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: It reminded me a lot of Michael rus.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 25: Going the way back machine as you remember him playing
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 25: for the Tennessee Tities.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: Very smooth.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 25: He's played a lot of football. He started as soon
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 25: as he got on campus. There at LSU. When guys
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 25: get into him, he does have a firm base. He
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 25: can recover as well.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: The temperament to finish is outstanding.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 25: You see that here in the run game, as he's
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 25: able to displace defenders and create a lot of movement
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 25: they're at the point of attack.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 22: Much was made about the arm length.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 7: Does he need to.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Slide in and play guard. I think he can.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Hold up at tackle.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 18: But in an absolute.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: Worst case scenario, you've got a Campbell's walking up to
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: the Young podium and it's just inside he just wants
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: to out.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 6: I mean he had Yeah. So there was some reporting
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 6: from Jeremy Fowler, like a couple hours ago, right before
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 6: the draft, that the Patriots, a contingent from the Patriots
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 6: went down to Baton Rouge, Louisiana and met one last
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 6: time with Will Campbell a couple of days.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: Ago, spent some quality time with him.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 6: Typically, when that happens, it means that you're just kind
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 6: of dotting your eyes there, dotting your eyes and crossing
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 6: your t's on the pick. I remember hearing a story
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 6: similar about Christian Gonzalez about a week before the draft
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 6: that they went out to Oregon and did the same thing.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: Well they did it with Nate Solder like a day before.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so this is uh, this has been expected, as
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 6: we all know, it's been expected for a while. But
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 6: again I I I know there's gonna be concerns, uh
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: with some of the arm length stuff that's come out,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 6: But like Daniel Jeremiah just said, it was a great athlete,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 6: a smooth pass protector, great technique. They'll be able to
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 6: figure it out.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 7: We did it.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah it wasn't quite you know.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 26: Uh.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: All right, here's Theatress Draft party on NFL Network.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: Now, Fred, I'm so glad you noticed that moment and
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: like to me that these are the moments that are
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: some of my favorite times during the draft. We're just
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 5: noticing Will Campbell walking out and you could just see
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: it all sinking in, like and even just the look
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: wants to start.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 7: Like, man, it's like a.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: Kid living their dream right now. He's been waiting for
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: this moment, doing that long walk to the stage. Really cool.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: And I think a guy like that to come on
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: a team coached by a guy like Mike Rabel, I
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: think I think they've from what we've heard, they've already
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: made a connection. And uh, it's it's probably his type
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: of coach.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean Evan, I mean we have when we
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: had Mike on a couple of times, Evan was bringing
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 5: up the chess pad and I mean, how much Brabel
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: likes to get in there engaged with these guys. I mean,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: it's it's just it's too easy. And we're going to
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: see it, I'm sure as soon as next month with
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: him getting in with with Will Campbell and working on it.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: He loves working with those guys. It seems like it's
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 5: a it's a really good match.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 6: I know everybody wants, you know about the football player,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 6: you know, being but the toughness and the finish and
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 6: the effort that they talk about, this guy exemplifies all those.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: He's very right now he's on NFL Network and he's
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: he's very emotional. This means a lot to him, you
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: know what. I everything he does, I like him more
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: like I want somebody that it means a lot to them.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah sure, I mean, look at this kid.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: Look at this kid. How do you not love him?
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: Come on, let's go.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: And I mean, and how do you not want that
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: kind of guy protecting Drake?
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: And he's kid that you know my job is to
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: protect that quarterback. I will do whatever it takes to
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: not get him on the ground. We got ourselves a
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: good player here.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: You can even see Jamie Erdahl's reaction like she was
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: kind of like a little emotional watching and I'd love
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: to know what she asked him or if it's just
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: all sunk in at that moment. I mean, we probably
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: were talking about the early moments when he's walking to
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: the stage of it all hitting him, all the questions
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 5: about his arms that he's to have to answer the
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: last three months. It's over. He's a patriot, He's going
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: to be on his way up here tomorrow, will be
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: on the.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: Stage with him.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Alex right now, let's get some fan reaction.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 8: Go ahead, Alex, Hey, guys, how are you doing? I'm
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 8: here with that Andy Ray, Andrew Crook, Andrew how many
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 8: but heavies have you had?
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 22: Does it matter?
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: You seem don't matter?
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 27: And let's will gamble. There's laying people on their back.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 22: Will all.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 27: I gearing about one thing and you know one left.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 27: It is like do it to me by my friends
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 27: football goat, It's don't.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: Gay, You're how to pick them out.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 17: Will Okay, good job.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 22: Alex, I thought I thought I did a good job too.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 28: Right.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Who else do we have?
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 22: Tell us your name Michael growth.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 7: This is Mike.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 5: Mike.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 22: How are you feeling coming into this pick?
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 6: And how do you feel?
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 7: I knew we're going to pick him.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: Well, we'll see how he goes.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 22: I hope he does good.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 6: It's not the flashy pick, but it's it's in need, right.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 22: It's definitely need.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 7: But we'll see. You know's a nice pick. I hope
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 7: he pants out, all right?
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: So I can't argue with the vibes are high.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 22: There are lots of cheers.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: What was that, Paul I.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 7: Said, you can't argue with that? Watch.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 5: I hope he pans high.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: With me?
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 6: Where we mad?
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 6: We mad?
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 7: Jersey?
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right?
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 8: So yeah, guys, the vibes are hot, the drinks are flowing.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: I have one word, uber, You can't make me be
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: careful up there? Alex? Yes, are you driving home today?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 25: No?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 6: Alex?
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 7: All right, Alex?
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 5: So that guy swimming you.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 8: Don't want to snow where you.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 29: It's like I said, so I just tell all right,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 29: So I just Alex, have fun I think I want
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 29: to use this time to openly apologize to my good
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 29: friend Evan Lazare for talking so positively about Cleveland's trade.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 7: They took Mason Graham, Oh wow, Like I just that
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 7: I don't understand. Wow, I don't understand.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, listen, a lot of people really like Mason Graham,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: and when I started my process, I really like Mason Graham.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: I still like Mason Graham. I know he's a little undersized,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: but I I you know, I'm I want Will Campbell
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: over Mason Graham. But I wouldn't mind Mason Graham on
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: the New England Patriots.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 6: If I was a Browns fan right now, I am glad,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 6: I am not. I would be absolutely irate with the
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 6: decisions that they just made. Now, you can sell me
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 6: on twenty twenty six all you want. But they drafted
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 6: an undersized three technique at five overall over Travis Hunter
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 6: and Abdul Carter. Like they made the.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: Actual decision to do that tonight.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, like they decided that was the best move
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 6: for the franchise. Now they're gonna sell them on twenty
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 6: twenty six. They're gonna go after a quarterback in twenty
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 6: twenty six. They have two first round picks to make
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 6: it happen. But if you're just looking at what they
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 6: did tonight, you know, going down from two to five,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 6: and then you don't you passed on Genty as well,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 6: So you took Mason Graham here at five overall to
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 6: do what to stuff the run? Like, I just I
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 6: can't really figure.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 7: I've had a reasoning for being sort of enthused about
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 7: that trade for the Browns. They was, You're gonna like
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 7: you slide down a few spots and you lose out
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 7: maybe on like the diamond of Travis Hunter, but you
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 7: get like Ashton Genty or even Ty Warren right to
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 7: get an interior defensive line Like I don't. I'm not
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 7: sent telling you that Mason Graham's a bad player. I
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 7: don't think he is a bad player, But I just
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 7: you passed up special. I thought you were going to
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 7: try to get Special like I don't think Maybe I
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 7: think Ashton has a chance to be a blue chip
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 7: player draft Yeah.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, if you're like, I can't argue with that.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 6: You know it's the Perton time to take Ashton Genty.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 6: You got the package to trade down, and you just
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 6: take the blue chip player.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 7: You know that someone's probably gonna say, and you'd be
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 7: right if you did. Paul, you're being a hypocrite. You
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 7: hate running back, and you'd be right to say that.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 7: I'm just I'm talking about just as your talent perspective here. Okay,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 7: you passed up a special talent in Travis Hunter, but
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 7: you're gonna take a special talent in Ashton Genty, even
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 7: if it's a position that I don't think as as
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 7: as important. I don't think an interior defensive lineman is
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 7: a special talent unless it's Chris Jones or Aaron Donald.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 7: And I'm sorry, I don't think Mason Graham is going
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 7: to be.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 10: That Ye interesting, Well, we don't have to turn this
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 10: into Cleveland Brown, can I?
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 7: Well?
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 6: At six overall, just to say quickly that the Raiders
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 6: did take Ashon Genty.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Mike Rabel with the media.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 24: You know, this is uh, this is a young player
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 24: who cares deeply about the team.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: You know, is a leader in that room.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 24: And but to compare him to me or anybody else, no,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 24: I mean, but we love his football character, his play demeanor,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 24: his play style, how coachable he is and and you
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 24: know a twenty one year old, you know, player that's
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 24: started thirty eight or forty games in the SEC.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: Is is something that you know is impressive.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 11: Mike lennonhow that will cement himself as the pick for
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 11: you guys in this process?
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I think probably okay, So we're gonna go out
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: of Rabel. We're gonna go to Cam Williams, uh, director
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: of college scouting for the Patriots. Uh, we'll have Mike
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: Rabel in its entirety. After we speak with Cam, Cam,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: how you doing?
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 22: How are we doing? Team?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 7: We gave ourselves a congratulations after we made a pick
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 7: because I know that's what you're supposed to do in
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 7: the war room. So we wanted to be away you.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 22: Guys, that's the way to do it. We're having fun
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 22: in there.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: So as they say in in the betting world. Uh,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: so far the draft has been shocked one through four.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: We all thought you guys were gonna take Will Campbell.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: You took Will Campbell. How excited are you? And have
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: you talked with Will yet? And how excited is he?
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: Or is it too soon?
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 22: We're pumped. We are absolutely pumped. He's he's a stud.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 30: He we did a ton of work on him, starting
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 30: with Alex Brooks, our area scout in the Southwest. You know,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 30: we followed him along the way and and he checked
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 30: so many boxes for us and it became a no
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 30: brainer and just just really excited. I talked to him,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 30: I called him when you know, we were we made
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 30: the decision to pick him, and he was excited. And
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 30: you know, he was pretty stoic when I first got
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 30: on the line, but it looked like he got really
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 30: emotional in the interview once he hit the stage, so
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 30: it was pretty cool.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was That was my next question. I wonder
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: if you saw that, because I love that. That tells
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: me he he's as excited about being here as we
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: are about having him here. And that's what you want,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: right you want players who who just want to who
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: love football.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 30: Yeah, we definitely felt you know, for me, I felt
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 30: a connection with him and it felt mutual that he
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 30: wanted to be here, and he was fired up to
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 30: play left tackle, and you know, he was excited to
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 30: help our team. So there was, you know, a definite
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 30: connection that he had here and he embraced that.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 6: Kim, you just mentioned it, play left tackle. I think
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 6: you know, that's that's been a big question about will
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: And I assume you guys have evaluated him the entire
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 6: time as a left tackle.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 30: Yeah, that's that's where he played, and you know that's
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 30: you know, that's that's where he's comfortable. So that's about
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 30: my pay grade where he's gonna play. But I thought
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 30: he was a really good left tackle when I scouted him,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 30: and and I thought he could do that.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, what made you think that he was a really
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 6: good left tackle? Just some of the specifics that you
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 6: saw on the tape.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 30: Yeah, he checks a lot of the boxes. Man, He's
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 30: he's big, he's athletic, he's really instinctive. He's just he's
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 30: so advanced for a player at that age. He's only
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 30: twenty one years. He's a true junior. But for a
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 30: guy at his with his youth, he's played a lot
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 30: of football in the SEC, with multiple, you know, over
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 30: thirty five starts in that SEC playing left tackle. So
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 30: he's just a really consistent, dependable, high level pass protector
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 30: that gives you a ton of nastiness and physicality in
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 30: the run game and plays with the play demeanor that
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 30: that we would want.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: So he checked a.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 22: Lot of boxes.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: Could you talk a little more about that play demeanor. Cam,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 5: it seems talking to some of your coaches here the
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: last couple of weeks we hear a lot about violence
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 5: and that's what they look for. It seems like Will
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 5: Campbell's got that for a tackle.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 30: Yeah, he oozes toughness like you see it on tape,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 30: The way he finishes plays through the whistle, the violence
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 30: that he plays with his hands and and and he continues.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 22: I mean, he'll drive his legs through players.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 30: He's a he's a clean player, but he's he's a nasty, physical,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 30: offensivelignment and that's you know, he's wired the way you
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 30: want them to be wired.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: All right, Cam, I know you've got work to do.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: The night's not over yet, so we're gonna let you
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: get back to the war room. But congratulations on the pick.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 22: I appreciate it, looking forward to it, all right.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining. It's Cam Williams. It's Cam uh director
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: of college scouting for the New England Patriots. Thank you
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: for joining us. And you know, once we have it
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: queued up and Rabel's done, well, we'll get him. So Matt,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: you know, no no rush, Just let me know when
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: you're ready.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 7: To go.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: So we also want to get Rabel's take on the pick.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 5: Guys, you a quick aside. I'm still can't get over
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 5: that guy that probably spent an hour to two hours
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 5: painting his whole head. Knew it was gonna be Will Campbell,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 5: and he's like, yeah, we'll see, Yeah.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: We'll see.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 7: Maybe he'll pan out. Yeah, maybe it'll pan out.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 6: Sorry, I just.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 5: Couldn't get that on my head.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 6: That's what's sticking out to.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: You, all painted up for us, like you just hope that.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 5: We can't get too excited, you know, we just got
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 5: to see how pans out. I'm gonna get taken out.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: While we were doing all this stuff, the Raiders did
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: pick Ash.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 6: Yes, the Jets are on the clock now at seven.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 6: Mason Graham ashing genty were the next two picks. I
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 6: think what Cam said there, you know, well, people layed
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 6: left tackle like that's where we evaluated him. That seems
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 6: to be the overwhelming consensus about Will Campbell. I don't
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 6: think there was a ton of talk amongst teams about
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 6: ever moving him inside until he fails frankly on the
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 6: outside right, And I don't think there was ever any
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 6: real conversations about the arm Land and all that kind
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 6: of stuff that we all got into on this side
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 6: of things about him ever playing another position besides left tackle.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 6: So I his reaction to that was like, well, yeah,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 6: I meanwhere else is he gonna put Because.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: I've read everything you guys have read about the number
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: of people out you know, below thirty three inches who
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: have made it, you know, have done well. And there's
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: a hand there's like three or four in the last
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: twenty five years or whatever. But how many guys would
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: sub thirty three inch arms were considered first round talents?
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, in that way, Campbell is an outlier from
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: get from the get go right.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean he's also an outliar because of his athleticism.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, his athleticism score puts him in a you
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: know above I mean I think what it was like
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: fifteenth since nineteen eighty eight in terms of, you know,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: raw athletic score. What does it mean? I don't know.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 5: But if you're gonna have to bet on somebody that
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 5: maybe has a measurable that's a little bit below the bar,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 5: he has the athletic talent that's worth betting on. And
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: I think that's the thing that got lost a little
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 5: bit over the course of all the draft discussion, is
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 5: it's just all anyone talked about was his arms and
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 5: his wingspan and well how long, like you're losing track
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 5: of the fact that this guy's a really good player.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 5: He's got excellent, excellent feet to move with guys and that,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 5: you know, and that's the biggest thing at left tackle.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you look at like Vederian Low.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 5: I know he's a little bit of a punchline, but
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 5: you know, still it's just he's not this massive guy.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 5: They're looking for athleticism, and that's the thing that I think,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 5: you know that Will Campbell really has and that's going
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 5: to help him and that'll be what he's able to
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: succeed with, is he's moving his feet and be by
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 5: the steam.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: I go back to what I've always been saying. From
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: the moment this process started, he was the number one
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: rated tackle and despite all the talk, he hasn't veered
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: from that.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 5: I mean, I saw Paul Grimace a little bit, which
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 5: he likes because I started.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 7: I think Will Campbell became the number one tackle again
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 7: at the combine, kind of like cam Ward. I think
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 7: Kelvin Banks during the season was considered that, and those
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 7: two guys were neck and neck in the SEC. They
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 7: shared a lot of awards. But I just would say
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 7: that the whole like athleticism thing to me.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: But that's how you make up for the you know,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: eighth of an inch shorter arm.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 7: I guess I don't know that that's true, but I
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 7: am concerned. I love this pick because of the obvious reasons.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 7: Like I just I wrote about it. Evan said it
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 7: about twenty minutes ago, like the need is gaping. What
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 7: did you said, like eight years of draft we've been
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 7: looking for this and you made a comment that we've
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 7: been using the word neglect. Yep. This tells you that
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 7: they know that they've neglected it and they did something
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 7: about it. I love this pick because of how much
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 7: of a need it is. But there's a risk that
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 7: he's not a left tackle and I and I'm not
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 7: like ignoring that. I'm I am. I am very much
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 7: into the history.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 7: And thirty three inches or smaller. You can count on
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 7: one hand the amount of guys even been able to start,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 7: let alone succeed. There's been nobody who's been the bble.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: But this guy has this guy, would you know.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 7: Whether you best the best tackle in a bad draft, this.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: Guy, whether you want to believe the pro the Pro
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: Day measurement or the combine.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 7: Contents thirty three, thirty three or smaller, no one's done it.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: Thirty three, no one, no one, but no one at
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: thirty three has been a first round talent.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying is but I would argue that
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 7: this is another year he may not have been. Well,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 7: he wouldn't have been Joe Walt or all over channel
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 7: last year.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: But despite all that, he was the best tackle in
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: this draft, despite the thirty three inch arms, And that
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: tells me that he's figured out a way over the
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: course of his career to overcome that.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 7: And I think that again, Isaiah Winn did that too
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 7: when he was a first round pick, but he couldn't
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 7: play tackle in the NFL.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 6: Well, the Jecks just took membo. I think the biggest
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 6: thing that I would just say about the thresholds and
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 6: all that is that there's such a knee jerk if
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 6: he's under the threshold to immediately move the player inside.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 7: And that's why I say, like I don't care about
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 7: the draft, and like the first round pick, I care
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 7: about what they do when they play right.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 6: But I think the biggest thing to the point I'm
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 6: trying to make is that who has even been given
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 6: the chance to play tackle at thirty three year euld
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 6: here because there's always this instant reaction of this player
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 6: needs to move inside because of the length. So the
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 6: sample size is so small. Now, Peter Skoronsky played at
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 6: an All American level at Northwestern, the second of the
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 6: Titans drafted him. He was playing left guard.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 7: Because he got dominated in camp. No, he never played
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 7: the same tackle. He never put the guy in Washington
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 7: that he never played who got dominated Brandon Sheriff, who
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 7: got dominated by Ryan Kerrigan in practice. They let him
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 7: do in practice and they can't.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 6: Okay, well, I haven't seen any reporting about the Titans.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean I've heard. So let's forget about Scarnsky.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 7: Let's go to brand. Why is that most.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 6: Because he was drafted by Rabel two years ago.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 7: And he said that he couldn't do it.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, but because now a contradiction. This is a
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: different player.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 6: And he's also got longer arms.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: But that's besides.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 7: So if he's playing guard in training camp, what do
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 7: we say? What are we going to say?
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 6: I say, then I say, but this isn't the point
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 6: that I'm making.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 7: I am going to say that I said, okay, yeah,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 7: the point that.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: I don't believe that's going to be the case. But
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: if that happens, and I'll be I'll be really disappointed.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 7: I just think that I don't I don't know how
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 7: to put it, like because I really and people are
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 7: going to make fun of me. I know it. I
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 7: know how these things work. I sort of see the
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 7: criticism coming before it comes. This is the pick I
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 7: would have made. I think this is a roll of
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 7: the dice worth taking. That he can play left.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: Well, every one of these guys after the.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 7: First people are whispering past the graveyard that it's going
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 7: to be an easy thing because he's athletic, and I
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 7: don't think these most tackle.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: It's never easy for any of these guys coming into
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: the NFL. But I don't think it's all like you
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: mentioned Isaiah Win, Isaiah Win went back and forth in
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: college garden tackle. This guy has done nothing but played
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: left tackle his entire football career.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 7: So what does that mean?
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: That was.
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  Speaker 7: Now unless he was pretty good, not as good as
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 7: Georgia well they're good, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, so like there was never any no one ever
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: doubt he never showed any reason to play him in
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: any other position but left tackle in his college career
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: or you know, or below. So like I think it's
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: different than Isaiah Win. Isaiah Win didn't always just play tackle.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 6: Well, Isaiahen was tiny six was an undersized player by all,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 6: you know, in all walks like size, weight, all you know, heightweight,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: all of it. I think, you know, the thing about
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 6: you know, what Paul is saying is fair. But the
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 6: point I am trying to make with the threshold is
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 6: that everybody kicks all these guys inside instantly, and then
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 6: we look around and say, why are there no good
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 6: tackles in the NFL? Well, maybe if you had given
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 6: the college tackle a chance to actually succeed at tackle
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 6: before you kicked him inside and not half the teams
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 6: in the league would be searching for left tackles every
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 6: single year because there's a dearth of tackles. Well, there's
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 6: a dearth of tackles because every single Peter Scaranski gets
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 6: automatically moved inside. And with Campbell, I think they're gonna
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 6: give him a chance to succeed at tackle. Now. I
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 6: put the onus now on him succeeding at tackle, especially
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 6: early on in his NFL career. On the coaching staff
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 6: Josh McDaniels and and Doug Moron, like, they are going
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 6: to have to recognize that this player is going to
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 6: have some deficiencies out of the gate with his arm
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 6: length and pass protection. So if it's chip health, if
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 6: it's sliding, the detection towards him so that the guard
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 6: is there for him to protect against the inside move.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 6: That's his biggest issue. He oversets to the outside because
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 6: he doesn't have the length to get out to the
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 6: speed and then those guys inside counter him.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 7: Right, Guy's not getting a chance. Yeah, I do. I
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 7: like that argument because you're probably right. There's probably a
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 7: lot of guys that maybe could have done it, but
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 7: they just said nope, can't.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: Do it with some patients and coaching, right, So you know, I.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 7: Think that's the strongest argument yet efinitely.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 6: So the Colts have done this. Bernard Raymond and Brandon
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 6: Smith both their tackles have under thirty three in charms.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 6: They're both starting caliber tackles in the league. Bernard Raymond's
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 6: like a top ten, top fifteen tackle in the NFL.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 6: I think if you're looking for a good comp for
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 6: Campbell succeeding at a high level at left tackle, it's
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 6: probably Raymond. He's probably the best example of this. And
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 6: the Colts said, be damned about the arm length. These
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 6: two guys have done it. They can play the positions
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 6: right and left tackle, and they've succeeded. They've done just fine.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 6: Mashaan Slater thirty three on the money. He's been awesome.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 6: You know, everybody says nobody under thirty three because it's
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 6: very convenient. You just cut out Rashond later period, well,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 6: Rashond Slater and under, so you know he's he's a
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 6: thirty three on the money tackle arm length, and he
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 6: has been a high level player for the Chargers into
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 6: the day that they drafted him.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 7: I think, let's let's let's let's hope that this guy
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 7: is is an outlier. That's what you have to hope,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 7: because I don't like the whole notion of well, you know,
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 7: the worst case, like Daniel Jeremiah started to say as
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 7: we potted down, the worst case is a guard and
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 7: that's that's not good. No, I don't want Quentin Nelson,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 7: who is a top five guard. He's great, great player.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 7: I don't want him.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: And I did say that about when I said his
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: floor is a pro Bowl guard. I said that on
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: the day that they drafted him, because it was not
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: a good guard. There was a lot of questions about him,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: you know, more so about playing tackle than I think
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: Will Campbell.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 7: So you guys, you guys have made me feel better.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 7: Membo went to the don't want it to and the Panthers.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 6: There there's no concern because I've talked about the concern.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you didn't completely eliminate because you know me, I'm
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 7: from New England, I have I have.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 6: Small but there's there's ways to help him, like, okay,
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 6: you know you know it's third down. Uh, we're gonna
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 6: have Hunter Henry or Austin Hooper give the end a
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 6: little bit of a forearm shiver on his way out
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 6: into the pattern, so you don't have to overset because
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 6: you're gonna get out because we're going to have the
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 6: guy chipping. We're gonna have the guard slide in that
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 6: direction to help from the inside counter Like those types
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 6: of things that the coaching staff that they used to
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 6: do around here that they haven't been doing.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: Around and reason don't have to do that all the time.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 6: I think as the rookie, they're going to have to
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 6: do that.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: But I hope that until he figures he can play
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: on that island.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 6: Until he figures out how to play on that island
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 6: at this level with deficiencies that he has, they're going
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 6: to have to do stuff like that.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 7: That's why I don't think they're done with the offensive
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 7: line as well, because if you're going to ask the
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 7: guards to do some different things for you, you might
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 7: need an upgrade. I mean, they have Leyden Robinson City,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 7: so Cole Strange. Maybe a three man fight for that
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 7: left guard.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 6: Spot, would you say, yeah, agree, right?
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 7: But I mean I'd like to add something to that
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 7: because I don't love Garrett Bradbury at center either. So
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 7: those two spots to me, I think you have three
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 7: spots filled now. The offensive line is imminently better than
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 7: it was on paper. Yes year, oh yeah, on paper,
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 7: it's imminently better. And that's that had to be priority one.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: Don't make plans for January, Paul, don't make plans for
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: jan February. No January. I'm not saying February yet. I'm
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: just saying January.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 7: Oh, are you you're actually saying the opposite of what
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 7: I think I thought you were saying.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 5: Okay, it's echo what you're saying. Though, when Evan was
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 5: talking like that, that's where the spotlight goes. Now there
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 5: were the spotlight what for me on the whole at
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 5: left tackle and now it goes to left guard and
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 5: a little bit of Man.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: Don't you think what we have we can find one right?
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 5: But but you know, but it's I don't want to
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 5: do a little more important now though, you know, to
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 5: help Will Campbell and try to get somebody that you know,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 5: in a perfect world, Leaden Robinson is that guy, and
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 5: they're they're together for at least the next few years
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 5: when they're under rookie deals together. But at the same time,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 5: you'd love to have a veteran left guard in there
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 5: that you're like, all right, this guy's going to take
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 5: care of him. He's going to make sure he's okay.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 5: So you know that's how it works for it. Just
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 5: go whack them and we're like, all right, right, left
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 5: guard's good. Now, we're left tackles good.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 7: Now we're okay.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 5: But I and one more thing I'll say Paul Is.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: I'm not whistling past the graveyard of anything of this.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 7: But I don't think I don't think we no question
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 7: about it. I think the collective we in New England
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 7: is my.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 5: Biggest point is there are traits at least to bet on,
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 5: you know, whereas Isaiah Win and you know he's small
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 5: all around, like you know it's Will Campbell, he's tall,
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 5: he's big.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 7: In My bottom line is I really like this pick.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 7: And I think you know, sometimes you just have to
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 7: take your medicine. You've you've screwed something up and you
• 1:34:43
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• 1:34:45
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  Speaker 1: Him add and will.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 24: To our football team is that it's about a foundational piece,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 24: a young twenty one year old that's mature beyond his years.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 24: He's a leader, he's durable, he's physical, dependable, you know, accountable, study.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 24: We spent a lot of time with him, and whatever
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 24: mistakes that showed up, which they all do, he's he
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 24: recovers quickly and and can fix those mistakes. And you know,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 24: we we we spent a lot of time and we
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 24: looked at a lot of other players and worked a
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 24: lot of other players out, and you know, he made
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 24: he made a huge impact on us and and we'king
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 24: you know, We're excited about adding him and look forward
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 24: to seeing him and his family here tomorrow.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: So with that what he got, Karen.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 22: Was it a situation where.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 26: The need on one hand and the best player available
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 26: to line it?
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 24: Yeah, I mean I think that that's certainly, you know,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 24: the easiest way to look at it.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: That that that's.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 24: That's how the board fell, and that's kind of how
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 24: we anticipated it going for for quite a while, and
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 24: that's kind of where we targeted. We had some conversations
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 24: to make sure that we were prepared those those situations
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 24: that we talked about a few weeks ago prior prior
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 24: to the draft that we went through.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: On on Monday.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 24: And you know, this is this was a very very
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 24: easy pick for us.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: What does uh?
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 31: Will he who spoken up?
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 22: He reminds you of like a younger Mike Rable.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: A tough.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 24: We're we stay out of the comparisons in that business.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 24: You know, this is Uh, this is a young player
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 24: who cares deeply about the team.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: You know, is a leader in that room.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 24: And but to compare him to me or anybody else, no,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 24: I mean, but we love his football character, uh, his
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 24: play demeanor, his his play style, how coachable he is
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 24: and and you know, a twenty one year old, you know,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 24: player that started thirty eight or forty games in the
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 24: SEC is is something that uh, you know is impressive.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 11: Mike Lennonhow that will cement himself as the pick for
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 11: you guys in this process?
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 24: Well, I mean I think probably last week when Elliott
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 24: and I and Ryan uh and a few others went
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 24: down and spent time with him and and worked him out,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 24: you know, and then went and worked out a few
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 24: more players the same day, and we you know, we
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 24: made a circuit and I think when we came back
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 24: and we slept on it and then had you know,
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 24: the conversations about where it would be if he was
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 24: on the board, and.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: You know, I think probably then.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 32: Like a left tackle.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's where he.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 24: Started, and he's a left tackle, and you know, that's
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 24: that's what he's played, that's what he's you know done,
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 24: and so he'll come in here and he'll compete, uh
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 24: to be the left tackle, just like everybody else is.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: Going to compete for their spots.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 24: That's that's what we're trying to create here, is something
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 24: that there there's competition at every position, and that that
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 24: our players believe that the best players are going to play.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 22: You said throughout this process that Arl.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 11: Wasn't the thing super problem for you guys in terms
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 11: of overall evaluation.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 22: When when when you met with the will.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 11: How come fitment at the course, you're kind of getting
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 11: to know him, kind of understanding who he is this player.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: You know there.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 24: Everybody has a play style, everybody has a skill set,
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 24: and it's what you do within that skill set and
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 24: the tricks that you learn in his business and how
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 24: you play and how you do your job right, and
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 24: so I think he's learned a lot of those. And
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 24: it's a player on that on the left side and
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 24: to pass protect and you know, for for a taller player,
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 24: he sinks his hips in a run game and is
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 24: able to stay attached in the in the past game
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 24: and and and widen the pocket and and create the
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 24: width of the pocket and get out on the perimeter.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 24: So you know, it's a it's a total package, right.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 24: And if you drop back and you throw the ball
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 24: forty times in this league, it's going to be it's
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 24: tough sledding for anybody.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: Right That's let me just tell you that.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 24: Like that's if you if it turns into a drop
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 24: back passing game in the National Football League.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: You know, it's going to be an issue for for anybody.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 24: And when when you talk about play style, it's you know,
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 24: how is he going to be able to you know,
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 24: create that and and and be able to you know,
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 24: for offensive linemen, it's so much about a reaction of
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 24: resetting your hand, chopping the arm down, all these tricks
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 24: of the trade that they use, and they have to
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 24: be able to to make great decisions and split second decisions.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 24: So you know, his body of worker is out there
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 24: on the left side against a lot of really good rushers.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: They're all going to get beat.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 24: Okay, so we can watch every time that a left
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 24: tackle gets beat. They all get beat. I've been in
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 24: this league for twenty five years and but but I'm
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 24: just I'm confident in how quickly he is able to
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 24: process and change and have a lot of different pitches
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 24: at such a young age.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 33: Right, I'm curious, you run and Morgan, how important is
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 33: it much a better a kind leader in the room
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 33: at tackle and a younger John and will.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: Pay the more leadership that we can have, the better.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 24: And I've appreciated Morgan since the time that that I've
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 24: known him personally. There's a lot of people around here
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 24: in our building that had a high affinity for him,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 24: you know, going through the free agency process, and you know,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 24: it became evident to me quickly that this was the
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 24: type of person and player that we wanted on our
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 24: football team. And and these going to help not only Will,
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 24: but everybody else in that room and anybody else that
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 24: will add through the course of three days. So he
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 24: I love everything that Morgan is about as a person,
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 24: you know, as a father, and he communicates with me.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 24: You know, he's raising three boys, three young boys, and
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 24: that's that's probably his most important job right now, and
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 24: I would agree with that.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 18: Do you talk to him a little during that process
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 18: of about the tackle and his sports, that.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: Type of the household or anything, got.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 24: No, I mean I have a pretty good idea. I
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 24: think Elliott has a pretty good idea. I think Ryan
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 24: and everybody else in our personnel department has a pretty
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 24: good idea on what to look for when you're talking
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 24: about offensive linemen. And but we value you know, again,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 24: we value all our players' opinions on things, and you
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 24: know they all have them.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: Some are better than others.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 22: There's there's been a lot of discussion about movement in
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 22: the first round. Obviously the crowd streight to find a
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 22: deal it too.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 4: Did you guys receive any offers at the point?
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: No, you know, we we you know, I think at
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: this point in time it was pretty quiet.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 14: You know.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 24: I think we would have entertained anything that anybody offered us.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 24: But but it was pretty quiet. I mean, I think
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 24: everybody was going up for for two players and one
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 24: was already there and they didn't have to move, and
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 24: the other team that wanted to get to to two
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 24: got there. So we would have been open but excited
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 24: to be able to get you know, stay there and
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 24: and get and get will like.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 5: With the chips, you have the expert third round kick
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 5: that you had to state, And I said, we'll just
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 5: try to get back in here.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 24: I think the right players are there, you know, I mean,
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 24: give us something to do tonight, so we're not just
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 24: sitting there watching and uh but but just not to
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 24: to go up for just to for just to go up.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: So if somebody is.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 24: There that that we have rated at at a great
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 24: spot at a great value, and I think then we
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 24: could go back up. But we'll see as the draft
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 24: goes on and who comes off the board and whether
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 24: we just sit there and wait till tomorrow, like if.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 22: If Will eventually has to move inside. Is this a
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 22: misevaluation this high in the draft and fourth overall?
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 24: You know, I think that what we're focused on is
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 24: where he's going to be tomorrow and the next day,
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 24: and not what the misevaluation is.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: Like we we coveted this player. This was a very
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: good football player, and so.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 24: I think part of the draft is adding great pieces
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 24: and great players to your roster, which is what we did.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 24: So he hasn't even shown up here in Foxboro, and
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 24: we're not going to talk about where he's gonna play
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 24: or what he's gonna do. I'm going to let everything
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 24: really speak for itself and let his play and what
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 24: he does in the community and most importantly on the
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 24: field before we start talking about that.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I just think that that's you know,
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: that's not fair. I've never thought about that one time.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 24: You know, We've watched every game that he's played, put
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 24: a lot of work into this, and we're all excited
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 24: and happy that he's here.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 5: In terms of his.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 22: Character, he pick the Bowl over what you're looking to
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 22: him as.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: A play style, there's a play demeanor. And I'll just
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: tell you this.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 24: When we went down there to work him out, Uh,
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 24: he showed up with one purpose, and that was for
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 24: us to pick him. From the time that we walked
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 24: in the building to the time that we left and
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 24: got on the plane. Uh, he he had one objective
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 24: and that was to to prove to us that he
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 24: was the right player for us. I'll say that, and
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 24: I can speak for everybody else that was there.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 22: What is the I don't want to say what is
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 22: the timeline for him?
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 20: But with a young player at a premium position like that,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 20: how important is it to take your time in terms
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 20: of his development to get him ready to eventually play
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 20: left time?
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: Cool the time. I mean, it's just block your guy.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 24: I mean when you talk about coming from the they
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 24: threw the ball a time, like let's let's not kid ourselves.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 24: Like he had more drop back snaps than pretty much
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 24: anybody else in college football. Like they threw the ball
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 24: fifty times. It wasn't RPOs like everybody else. So he's
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 24: past protected, he's run blocked. He's coming out of a
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 24: pro system. The terminology He's already been through it, I
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 24: don't know how many times with our guys and with me,
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 24: and I think.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a quick learning curve as far
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: as the scheme.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 24: And then again there's gonna be a learning curve and
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 24: adjustment to everything that he does. But he's coming from
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 24: a great program, am one that's you know, built similar
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 24: to to to pro football. You know, football is is
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 24: very important to him. And but but we'll also, just
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 24: like every other player, will give them exactly what they
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 24: can handle.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 15: Is a report that you involved in the worked out last.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: Week you throw a blocking pad on.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 7: Why is that important for you to be vault in that?
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 24: Who made that report? And then I'll answer the question. Okay,
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 24: well you know Pete's mister college football.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 13: Yeah he he.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: They all knocked me around pretty good. I realized I'm.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 24: Close to fifty and if that tape ever gets out,
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 24: there's gonna be people are gonna have some problems.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: So I uh, I hope that tape never sees the
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: light of day.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 24: But I think it was important for me to get
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 24: out there and feel them and feel every every player
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 24: that we evaluated at the line of scrimmage.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 22: What if anything has surprised you about just talk.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I mean it's not like I just showed
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: up up here in January for the first time, you know.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 24: I mean I've been in the league a long time, so, uh,
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 24: nothing surprises me in this league anymore. There's just you know,
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 24: distractions that are going to happen throughout our team with
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 24: our season.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: They're unavoidable.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 24: So I hope no one ever says, hey, we want
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 24: to eliminate distractions, because I would say that that's impossible.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: We just want to handle them the best that we
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: can and be ready for him and be prepared for him.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 6: How important is it to have the kind of vinegar
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 6: and brings the.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 22: Table for an office one.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: Like that's you know, one of the only ways that
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: you can survive.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 24: It's as as a player in this league at the
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 24: line of scrimmage, the play, demeanor, the finish, the effort.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's the guys on the other side are talented, dude.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's how it goes. You know.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: We think we can all see that.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 24: And so there's a lot to you know, playing this
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 24: game other than just you know, looking good and having
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 24: great technique, you know, and so we we we valued
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 24: that and we're going to continue to value that. The
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 24: ability to to finish and to grind through when it
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 24: gets tough is something that we're we're.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: Going to be excited about.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 24: And uh, we're going to give him every opportunity to
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 24: develop and you know, push, push him as fast as
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 24: he'll let us go.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 14: Thank you, have a good night.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 22: Thanks enjoying the free food we got food for him.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: All right, that's Mike Brabell talking to the media. Yeah,
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: I mean pretty interesting. I think the media they pretty
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: much asked all the questions that I think should have
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: been asked, right, yeahs of just people asking about trades.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: He said, you know, it was it was pretty quiet.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: We were willing to listen, but it was pretty quiet.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I thought the one thing he did mention, just
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 6: from you know, a technical standpoint, the fact that Will
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 6: Campbell didn't play in one of these gimmicky r p
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 6: O you know, college style offenses, something that I've written
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 6: about and talked about. So, you know, PFF tracks what
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 6: they call true pass sets, which takes RPOs, screens, all
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 6: that kind of stuff out and really looks at the
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 6: plays where the quarterbacks actually holding the ball. For more
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 6: than two and a half seconds and you have to
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 6: pass protect. And Campbell had the most pass sets out
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 6: of the top six tackles in the class that they
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 6: deemed true pass sets, two hundred and twenty nine of them.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 6: On those two hundred and twenty nine, he allowed twelve
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 6: pressures the entire season against SEC competition. So that's a
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 6: big difference between some of these other guys that were
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 6: in those gimmicky type of offenses that the ball was
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 6: coming out so quickly that you see some really fluffed
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 6: up pressure numbers from different players because their quarterbacks are
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 6: just not back there for very long. Campbell that was
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 6: not the case, especially last year with ness Meyer replacing
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 6: Jaden Daniels. So it's a good point there with you know,
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 6: Campbell that separates some of his pass blocking tape. You
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 6: can really see translatable NFL caliber pass sets against NFL
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 6: caliber competition.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: And you has that story's been posted, Yes, so you
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: posted your excell and O's take on the pick with
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: some film. So if anyone wants to get more of
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: what Evan's talking about, just go to Patriots dot com
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: right now and you can see some tape. You can
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: see Evans analysis and backing up what he just said.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, good stuff from Faebele. I mean I like the
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 5: defense of him and clearly will Campbell want them over.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 5: With everything we've been talking about, not just the experience
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 5: on the field, but also the demeanor off field, it
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 5: just always seemed like a match to Mike Vrabel from
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 5: me and that press conference is.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: Can we got our guy? Let's see. One of our
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: emailers says, those two fans that Alex chose perfectly showcase
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: the two types of Patriots fans. One the absurdly optimistic
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: belligerent who thinks every move is a slam dunk, and
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: two that we'll see pessimists who views everything we do
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: as a mistake. It couldn't have been more perfect well done.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 3: Only in New England is another AFC championship considered a loss.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 5: Guy who spent three hours painting his head, but still
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 5: he's not sure about it though, We'll see.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that was the part that was a little bit
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 7: sort of like I know for Alex, you know, yeah, yeah,
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 7: Well I liked listening to Mike talk about you know,
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 7: sort of his you know, his demeanor as a as
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 7: a teammate, you know, his passion for the team and
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 7: his commitment is accountability those kinds of things, because as
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 7: a rookie left tackle, you're going to have some some
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 7: you know, bumps in the road. So I think you
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 7: need to have that kind of mentality. You know, it's
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 7: not the same, but you know, kind of like when
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 7: we talk about cornerbacks needing to have short memories, you know,
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 7: and Mike said it, if you're going to make a
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 7: living in the NFL dropping back forty times every game,
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 7: they're gonna be bumps. And uh so it sounds like
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 7: he has that kind of demeanor that that can handle it.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 7: So m last year at LSU, they.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 6: Dropped back forty times a game, and he's got Nick
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 6: Gorton and Shamar Stewart coming off the edge at him
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 6: and they're just dropping back and dropping back. And he
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 6: was able to you know, there were some works. You know,
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 6: there's some some losses, no doubt about it, but he
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 6: was he was able to hold his own more more
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 6: than hold his own.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: I would say, Gary writes in Fred in particular, but
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 2: all of you agreed said you don't need stars in
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: the offensive line. You need guys who are good and
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: play together as a unit. You got four good guys
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: right now and lots of candidates for left guard. Looks
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: fine to me.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 7: They have three I think we have two questions that
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 7: you don't like center.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: Well you're not sold on center yet?
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I'm just going off of last year. Yeah, yeah, right,
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 7: I mean I think that the I think the Patriots
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 7: aren't sold on center. They're looking for him, you know,
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 7: they they signed one, and I think, I mean, would
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 7: you be surprised if it was cold strange? Like, I
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 7: think there's going to be a cop. I think there's
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 7: going to be a competite center. Yeah, it's going to
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 7: see competition. Yeah, I mean the odds on favorites brad Berry,
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 7: I would say, just based on the fact that they
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 7: signed him. But wait, did he rank last year in PFF?
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would have a I don'd have a tough
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 6: time saying that anybody's gonna unsee Bradberry for next year.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 6: In past protection, he has issues, you know, it's with
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 6: size and power on the inside and his ability to
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 6: pass protect at a really high level. But I think
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 6: his movement skills and his experience are just going to
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 6: put him over the top. I've been saying since the
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 6: beginning that left guard is the spot that I would
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 6: look at in this draft in particular. I think there's
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 6: a lot of really good guard talent in the draft
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 6: this year. If you want to add another one in there,
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 6: I think there's a chance that you could add one
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 6: on Day two that would start over everybody on Day
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 6: that you have on your roster right now. But if
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 6: you just want to take a guy in the fourth
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 6: round or the fifth round as just an added player
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 6: into that competition and throw his name in the hat
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 6: to I think he could do that as well and
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 6: feel pretty good about him potentially coming out as the starter.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 6: But there's a bunch of really good early Day two
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 6: guards as well if you wanted to go that direction. Now,
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 6: I'm not necessarily saying you should or need to, but
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 6: I think that there's a way to elevate that room
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 6: even more.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 5: Sorry, can I just say, like I just still can't believe,
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 5: like col Strange was the first round pick three years ago,
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 5: and like we're like kind of just throwing him to
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 5: the side now, right Like no one's expecting anything from him.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 5: No one's really expect like maybe he wins the center job.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 5: No one's expecting him to take back the left guard job,
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 5: you know, in any capacity.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 7: It's just it's crazy to me, Like I don't like,
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I'm not. I think there's gonna be a
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 7: first round pick three years.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: I think this is gonna be competent.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah. I think there's gonna be competition for those two jobs.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 7: I really do. I think that's what Mike Rabel and
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 7: you know, Elliott Wolf and Ryan Cowden to trying to
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 7: create competition for these for these spots.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: Let the survivor.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 5: I have to say one more thing, just on MIKEL Williams,
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 5: who just went to San Francisco, which I He's one
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 5: guy that I really thought was gonna go much higher
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 5: than some of the projections I saw through. I just
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 5: loved him.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 7: I thought he would have.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 5: Been a great pit fit for the Patriots. I camped
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 5: him to Willie McGinnis a few times. You know, has
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 5: that ability, could be a hand down guy, can stand up,
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 5: really athletic, just scratching the surface. He's not gonna be
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 5: twenty one till May twenty years old. He was just
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 5: one of my favorite guys. I think that forty nine
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 5: has got a really good player.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 6: It's almost unfair that the forty nine ers are picking
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 6: eleven because obviously last year they had like a rash
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 6: of injuries that went through their roster and is the
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 6: only reason why they weren't in the hunt for the
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 6: super Bowl again. And now they're gonna add Michael Williams
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 6: to Nick Bosa and the rest of the guys that
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 6: they have on the defensive line. I mean, forget about it, Like, yeah,
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 6: he's a really good player. They run that four to
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 6: three defense there in San Franco. He's going to be
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 6: a four to three end, which is his best natural position,
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 6: opposite of Nick Bosas. So there's going to see a
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 6: ton of one on ones I'm sure on that uh
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 6: weak side.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: Let's forget we get the Dallas war on.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 5: Here we go. Where's the day?
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 6: We don't even know yet, we don't know.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 2: But whatever they got, so they got.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 6: They took Tyler Booker. So they took a guard.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, wow, yeah, look at they they're doing hands hands
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 2: for guard.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 7: I wouldn't be doing that for a guard.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 6: They the Cowboys have a type they they love to draft,
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 6: road grading offensive lineman. Just powerful, downhill gap scheme offensive lineman.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 6: That's exactly what Tyler Booker is. I thought that he
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 6: would slip a little bit because of his athleticism. He
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 6: really tested poorly, should not test like a first round pick.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 6: But if you want to get somebody on a gap scheme,
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 6: right Paul and get some duo, get some double teams
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 6: and run the ball downhill. You got your guy.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: Joe Wrightson, I absolutely love Evan's ability to cope. Boston
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: sports people are whiny and negative constantly. Not Evan. Evan
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: finds a way to be informed and entertaining without being
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 2: a black rain cloud.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 7: So there you go. I want to second that for
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 7: a second. And it was when Rabel started to talk.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 7: I was I was sort of patting Evan on the back.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 7: In less than thirty seconds. He like really diffused me,
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 7: Like because I'm you know, I do. I know. I
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 7: make fun of myself all the time, but there's truth
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 7: in every sort of exaggerated joke. I get concerned about
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 7: a lot of stuff because it's just inherent. I grew
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 7: up a Boston sports fan, and I'm not really used
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 7: to the way it's been the last twenty years. I'm
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 7: used to the way it was the first thirty five
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 7: years of my life. Right, I always think something bad
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 7: is going to happen, and I worry about the arms
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 7: and the history and everything, and like that Peter Scaronski
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 7: thing that Evan threw out there like really diffused me,
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 7: like calmed me right down. Well, I just think and
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 7: it was logical, Like that was a great argument and
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 7: it totally made sense.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 6: This has gotten my backside for a while now about
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 6: the NFL is that every single tackle in college that
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 6: has short arms, it's just automatic guard. It's just automatic
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 6: and no matter what guard. And then we all look
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 6: around in like you know, Week sixteen, and nobody has
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 6: any left tackles and they're like, where are all the
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 6: left tackles. It's like, well, you move them all inside
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 6: to guard. So like maybe if you actually give these
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 6: guys that really excelled in the FBS at playing tackle
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 6: a chance at tackle, their natural position, then they wouldn't
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 6: have an issue at tackle like every other.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: And I wonder, like, not only is there a dearth
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: of left tackles, but is there a shortage of good
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 2: offensive line coaches? I wonder how many of these organizations
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: have an offensive line coaches? No, no, no, bring them
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: to me. I'll make sure he can play left tackle.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: I wonder if there's not a lot of that going
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 2: around in the NFL too.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I just look at the Skeronski pick even
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 6: further and and like he hasn't even been very good
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 6: at guard, and and the natural instinct, you know, like
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 6: we we we talk about, is that, oh, he'll be
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 6: an All Pro guard.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 7: Right, that's the part that I'm saying. I'm gonna still
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 7: put my I'm gonna put my foot down about that.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 7: I'll let you know when he's an All Pro guard,
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 7: that's it, and that's his basement.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 6: What like, what if he actually what if Peter Skeronsky
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 6: actually would have been a better tackle because he played
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 6: there in the Dallas NFL career. It drives me nuts
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 6: that this is what they do.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: And yeah, there is Dallas party. Drake may Scott in
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: the UK says, it's not sexy, it's one for five
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 2: and am here and we picked a tackle. It's not sexy,
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: it's not clever, but it's necessary. I wasn't sure he
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: could play ot in the NFL. But if Scar who
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: was absolutely consulted, thinks he can, I'm all in. If
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: he ends up at guard, this pick is a failure,
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: I'm hopeful that won't happen. Love his attitude after being picked.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 5: I just to your point to have we went through
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 5: how many guys there were that in this draft class
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 5: that even have a chance to play left tackle out
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 5: of the gate. And it's almost more selective than the
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 5: quarterback position right now, Like there are guys that at
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 5: least some of the quarterbacks like Sanders, like, well we'll
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 5: give him a chance, right, Like some of these guys,
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 5: like you said, they're not even getting a chance because
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 5: of their physical measurements. Whereas at least some of the
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 5: quarterbacks are going to get a chance. At least three
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 5: of these guys are probably going to get a chance.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 5: But after the three that are already off the board,
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 5: now we don't know. There's a whole bunch of big
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 5: questions now with like Erstree and everybody else that's coming
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 5: down the pipe, and all.
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 6: Three tackles are gone, right, so so Membu, Banks and
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 6: obviously Campbell are off the board. And we talked about
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 6: this the top of the show. If you didn't get
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 6: the tackle.
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 7: Now like wish my drop dead spot. Yeah, I didn't
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 7: want to go lower than ten because now if you
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 7: think about it.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 6: And really you would have, you wouldn't have gone anybody.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 7: Well, but if Chicago went from ten to drop there
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 7: taking someone different, you still you took one of the three. Right,
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 7: So there's one of those three is still available? Probably
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 7: yeahs because they're not. They wouldn't have moved up to
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 7: take a tackle. They would have moved up to take genty.
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 2: Hey, Matt Morrell, are we do? We have Will Campbell? Ready?
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: Did I wake you up? I'm sorry, he's nodding his head. Yeah, Okay,
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 2: let's go to Will Campbell talking to the meet. Let's
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 2: hear from the guy himself.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 22: Hi, Well, congratulations, what's going on?
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 14: Thank you?
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 34: I appreciate it.
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 23: Guys, we're gonna we'll go ahead and start with questions
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 23: in the room here and then we'll possibly go to
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 23: ones that are online. So go ahead and all wait, guys,
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 23: produce yourself as you asked the question.
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 4: Well, Mark Daniels to cover of the Patriots for Mass Live.
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 22: Coach Rabel told us that he got.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 9: To works on last week and there's a report out
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 9: there from Pete Themmeill that you put Rabel on his butt.
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 22: Just curious on what it was like working with your
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 22: working out with your new head coach.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 34: Yeah, I mean it was amazing.
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 34: You know, him and some of the other staff came
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 34: in and you know, we had a great work out,
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 34: got some good work in. They taught me some some
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 34: new stuff and yeah, I mean I got him.
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 5: Uh, I'm not gonna lie.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 7: I got him on the ground.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 34: And then we had a great lunch after a bunch
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 34: of great guys. I'm just super excited for this opportunity.
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 6: Well, what was it, Sophie.
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 22: I reported on the Patriots for eight Z Sports.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 6: I'm just curious what it.
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 33: Was like to hear your name called and what it
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 33: means to play for an organization like the Patriots.
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 34: I managed everything. I played for a historic program at LSU,
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 34: and now to play for one in New England. You know, Uh,
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 34: I guess I'm lucky. But I'm just super excited and
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 34: thankful to wear that logo and on the side of
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 34: my helmet and across the front of my chest is
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 34: a complete honor and I'm just excited.
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 22: Well, Chris Price with the Boston Globe, I'm curious.
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 35: I know that you have a relationship with Keishan Boodie,
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 35: but in terms of guys who are already in the
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 35: New England locker room.
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 22: Have you been able to connect with any of them,
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 22: and who might some of those guys be.
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 34: I've had a chance to you know, I know Jacquelin
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 34: Roy as well. He was one of my teammates. Him
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 34: and Kashan Boudier, you know, the two that I know
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 34: the best.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 36: Uh.
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 34: You know, I've seen some of the other guys around
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 34: the facility when I was there on my Top thirty visit.
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 34: But you know, I'm just super excited to get up
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 34: there and meet the rest.
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 36: Of the guys.
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 33: Hey Will congratulations, Nicole Miner would have in Providence.
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 22: How excited are you to work with Drake May and
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 22: ultimately to protect him on the field.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 34: Yeah, I'm super excited. He's a heck of a player,
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 34: a heck of a leader, and you know he's the
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 34: commander of our offense. I only excited to play with him,
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 34: but you know the rest of the team. I'm excited
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 34: for the future that we have in Foxborough and I
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 34: think we got a special season coming.
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 22: And well, congratulations. Sam Knox with wpr I TV and Providence.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 22: What were your oppressions watching the Patriots growing up? Any
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 22: memories that kind of stick.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 7: Out to you? Yeah.
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 34: I mean they always used to just dominate. Every time
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 34: that I turned the TV on and the Patriots were playing,
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 34: they were dominating whoever it was, you know, Tom Brady,
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 34: Danny m Mondola, Julian Edelman, Gronk, all those guys just
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 34: dominating throughout the years that I was growing up. So
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 34: that's all I remember is them just winning.
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 33: Hey, will nicoleang Boston Globe, When did you know that
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 33: you were gonna be drafted by the Patriots.
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 34: This is where I've wanted to be since the start.
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 34: Elliott Wolf came to my practice whenever I was probably
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 34: about week five of the season, and I told him
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 34: this is where I wanted to be.
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 31: Uh.
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 35: And you know, we parents, I know, it's about the
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 35: appreciating their son grow up. That's awesome.
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting thing because a lot of times
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 2: this day and age, some of the parents can get
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 2: a bed, that's for sure.
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 7: So there, sorry about that. No, it's all good.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 6: Sorry. Well, so you were saying that Elliott game twenty
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 6: of your practices in week five and he told them
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 6: you wanted to.
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 36: Be in New England.
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 34: Yeah, I mean I told him, and you know, our
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 34: area scout Alex Brooks that I wanted to be a
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 34: Patriot and that happened in the middle of the season.
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 34: I've had great interactions with you know, everybody throughout the process,
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 34: a lot of them, you know, private workouts, thirty visits,
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 34: just being up there, getting to meet everybody, and you know,
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 34: it's just where I wanted to be, and you know,
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 34: I'm just super excited to get there.
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 26: Hey Will Karen greg gave from mass Live.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 8: If you were to describe your playing style to the
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 8: New England fan base, how would you describe it?
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 36: Nasty?
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 34: Uh, you know, I'm going to go out there and
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 34: give everything I have, every single play to you know,
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 34: protect my teammates, protect my quarterback, and just put the
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 34: you know, the Patriots in the best position possible to
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 34: you know, help win games.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 22: On Sundays, he will Chris Mason with Mats Love. You
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 22: said a few times that New England is where you.
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 14: Want it to be.
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 7: Why is that?
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 34: I just think that the culture and you know, the
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 34: New England Patriot logo speaks for itself. I believe in
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 34: the guys in that locker room. I believe in the
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 34: quarterback and coach of rabel Is. You know, my kind
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 34: of guy. He's all ball, no bs, and that's what
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 34: I want to play for. He's very hands on, he
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 34: loves the players that he coaches, and you know, I
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 34: just want to be a part of that.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 23: Greg Goodard from Boston Sports Journal, with all the discussion
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 23: about your arm length, whether you can play left tackle
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 23: in the league, are you.
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 22: Entering this league with more of a chip on your
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 22: shoulder than probably normal.
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 34: I'm just excited to, you know, get any opportunity that
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 34: you know, presents his self to, you know, help the
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 34: team in any way that I can, wherever that might be.
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 34: And I'm just excited to be a Patriot.
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 26: Hey will thank you for twelve Sports in Rhode Island.
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 26: I don't know if you've had a chance to talk
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 26: with coach Kelly at all. He's a New England guy.
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 26: Did he give you any tips about what to expect
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 26: in New England? And I don't know if he showed
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 26: you that New England accent.
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 22: I know people pick on.
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 13: Him for that.
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 34: Yeah, I mean, Coach Kelly's whole his Both of his
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 34: sons have been telling me that their uncle lives up
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 34: there right outside of Foxburg, and he's gonna get me
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 34: set up and coach. Coach Kelly told my dad he's
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 34: gonna have to cook y'all some gumbo. So we'll see
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 34: what that's about.
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 3: Anything else, Guys, Will Nicol Valley from mass last you've
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 3: spent much time for any outside of the visits in
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 3: New England up north of the Massachusetts area.
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 37: Do you have any connections up here?
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 14: No, sir, I do not.
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 34: You know, whenever I came up on my thirty visit,
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 34: that was the first time that I had been up there.
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 34: That was awesome place. I'm super excited to get there.
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 7: Will.
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 22: We'll see you tomorrow morning.
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 34: Yes, sir, sounds good. Thank you. I appreciate it.
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 7: Have a great night.
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 23: You've got a lot of media stuff to do while
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 23: you're there.
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 22: But talk about toughness.
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 2: To me, I feel like, all right, that's that's Will
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 2: Campbell and straight from the horse's mouth, as it were.
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah. So I'll tell you the thing that he said
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 7: that I liked the most, And it wasn't necessarily that
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 7: Will Campbell said it.
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 5: He put on his butt.
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 7: He's all ball, no bs. Yeah, And I think that's
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 7: the thing I'm probably most excited about the twenty five
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 7: Patriots about it.
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 2: I mean and Will Campbell smacks of someone who can
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 2: has a good BS detector.
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 5: I mean it's like him and Verybell cut from the
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 5: same cloth. That's why, like this whole story coming out
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 5: of him putting Rabel on his butt and Rabel, I
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 5: mean we talked about it before it even was out
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 5: like that. That's how Rabele is. He gets to get
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 5: in there, and clearly Will Campbell respects that as well.
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 5: I mean it's I think it's a really good match
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 5: for a head coach. It's just a weird thing to say,
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 5: like a it's a great match for the offensive tackle
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 5: and the head coach. But it is like these two
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 5: guys seem very much alike, and I think it should
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 5: be a good match.
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you have a you know him talking about Elliott
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 6: Wolf going there in week five of the season.
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 2: And save us. Can you come out now?
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 26: Yeah?
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 6: Right, and already at practice. And I believe him when
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 6: he says that he wanted to be New England the
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 6: entire time. I think that that was genuine. And you know,
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 6: you go back to well, you know, when were they
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 6: convicted about the pick and you know, were they one
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 6: hundred percent sold? Well, I think Elliott Wolf being down
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 6: in Baton Rouge in some random week of the college
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 6: football season, tells you that they they had had their
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 6: eye on Will Campbell for quite some time.
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 7: Oh, no doubt.
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 5: We got to get rid of the Jets green suit.
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 5: He's got on though, that that green that's get.
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 2: Some So as as they said on the call, we'll
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 2: have Will Campbell here in in the house tomorrow. He'll
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 2: do the car car wash at all our first round
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 2: picks do, including being out in the field with the
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 2: crafts and holding up the jersey. We'll have him in
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 2: our studio. We'll do a one on one with him,
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 2: and we'll bring him in here. Yea, so we'll get
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 2: to see him live and in person. Yeah, so I
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 2: can gush all over him.
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 7: You can.
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 2: He took it. He took it in a dark.
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 7: Place, negative, sneaky, dirty.
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 2: The guy that looks like he's going to church, you know.
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 7: Gosh, you can tell him how he was banging the
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 7: table guy.
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a thing we call it bt T.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 2: You're a bang the table guy.
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 5: You banged it before the thing even started. You were
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 5: banging the table for him. So I'll be good tomorrow.
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 5: It's so fun.
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 7: I mean, not Mike, I love tomorrow.
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 5: I love. It's one of my favorite. The day is nice,
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 5: the weather's getting nice, is there, leaves are coming out.
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 5: We got a new guy, we got a left tackle.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 7: Finally, you can set a farmer's almanac. So this is
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 7: what will be the nicest weekend of the spring every year. Thursday, Friday,
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 7: late April Saturday supposed to be supposed to be little Raneus.
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 7: There there you go, which makes sense since it would
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 7: be an early day for us.
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 2: So let's catch people up. Ted McMillan, we went went
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 2: to Arizona. I believe you went to Carolina. H Kelvin
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 2: Banks went to the Saints. Colston Lovelin went to the Bears.
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 2: That's a surprise. Paul's guy, MIKEL. Williams went to the
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 2: forty nine Ers. Mike's Mike's guy.
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry.
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 2: Tyler Booker, the guard went to the Cowboys. We talked
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 2: about that. Kenneth Grant, the defensive tackle went to the Dolphins.
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 7: Goes back to back with to the only two real
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 7: surprising picks. To me, yeah, I thought that that's a
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 7: little early.
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 2: For over that.
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 7: I love the Dolphins man the Tyler Booker, they reach
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 7: on every.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 2: Pick and Tyler Warren. The tight end went to the Colts.
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and the Colts haven't had a tight end and forever.
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 7: So that's a good picture.
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 2: Will say, I'll give you bred to Paul's instincts so
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 2: far or right when it comes to Sanders, Yeah, no,
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 2: he's right now.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 7: I had Paul to win the bet fifteen to Oh yeah,
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 7: we say.
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 2: Top fifty, top fifteen. The Falcons aren't taking them in
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 2: top half of them.
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 5: I have to buy apaulow jersey, although that jersey might
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 5: still comes through and then maybe we all get we
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 5: all get each I.
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 7: Just gotta I gotta sweat out of trade.
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 6: But I really love the Falcon to fit for Colston
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 6: Loveland in Chicago. Sam Laporter, right, yeah, I didn't know
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 6: if they were going to have the kahonas to draft
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 6: him that high with the injuries that he has the
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 6: ac joint, but he is a Sam Laporta clone. You
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 6: put him into Ben Johnson offense and he's going to
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 6: be a dynamic pass catcher. I mean, that's a.
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 7: Group that what Chicago was doing. I gotta be honest.
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they have a lot of talent, you know, I
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 6: don't know if they're going to get the coaching, but
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 6: they have a ton of talent.
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 2: Are you surprised that Loveland went ahead of Warren a
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 2: little bit?
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 5: But I'd keep Evan credit on that. I think he
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 5: was all over Loveland, and you know, I think a
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 5: little bit about him going above Warren.
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 7: It was fit. He's like you know, and Evan talked
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 7: a lot about this. I don't know. It might have
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 7: been Mike when you were I think it would have
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 7: been Tuesday when you and I were talking, Like in
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 7: a certain system he fits better than Warren and other systems,
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 7: it's Warren over Lovelan. So it depended on you sort
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 7: of the eye of the beholder.
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Loveland is a more dynamic receiver. He's a more
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 6: dynamic playmaker. Uh, definitely a dynamic, more dynamic route runner
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 6: than Tyler Warren. Tyler Warren is a little bit more
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 6: well rounded. But if you kind of put them in
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 6: those two buckets, like the Travis Kelcey and the Kronk bucket,
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 6: you know, Loveland's Travis Kelcey, you know, and and Warren's
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 6: more Gronkowski or you know, really with Loveland, I would
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 6: say brought Bowers right, Like that's the type of player
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 6: that you're getting with him if he is healthy. If
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 6: I'm a Patriots fan right now, I'm feeling okay about
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 6: what the other AFC East teams did. Armond Membu to
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 6: the Jets makes a lot of sense for them to
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 6: round out their offensive line. That's a fine things.
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 6: Kenneth Grant though, to the Dolphins, just I chuckled at
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 6: that one, because all they do is is draft athletes.
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 6: They don't really care about anything else. They just care
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 6: about athleticism. He is a freaks list athlete, but he's
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 6: an interior run stuffer. He didn't ever really rise to
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 6: that level at Michigan and really play to his athleticism fully.
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 6: Did in spurts, didn't flashes, but wasn't overall consistent. But
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 6: this is a big interior run stuffing defensive lineman. They
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 6: needed it, like it was a need for that team
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 6: in terms of shoring up the middle of their defense.
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 6: But it's not a guy that I'm like, Oh, the
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 6: Dolphins got Kenneth Grant, like we're in trouble.
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 5: They just like, oh, what's the local kid on the
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 5: Michigan kid?
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 14: Right?
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 5: They went to the to the Raiders, that's Christian Wilkins. Yeah, sorry,
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 5: not a Michigan kid. But still that's just like that's
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 5: what you get in Like you had that guy, then
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 5: you let that guy walk, and then two years later.
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 5: I mean i'd say Wilkins is. I mean, he's a
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 5: proven pro, but I think he's the more well rounded
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 5: player than what they're getting with Grant. Not exactly the same.
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 6: Like I would say right now, just looking at the board,
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 6: Booker and Grant going back to back picks are the
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 6: biggest reaches so far. Just based off the consensus boards
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 6: in the media, most people thought Kenneth Grant would be
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 6: you know, in play maybe the Buffalo.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 7: I thought people said Buffalo at the end of the rounds.
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and Tyler Booker two, you know, thirty thirty one
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 6: on most consensus.
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, just like you know with the Loveland and Warren thing,
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 7: I'm just looking at Dane Brugler. He had Warren eight
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 7: and Loveland eleven. So I mean that's pretty close. Yeah,
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 7: it's not. You know, some people like to love one better. Yeah,
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 7: and I think certainly you made the argument with the
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 7: way Chicago wants to use that guy.
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do that. I think them picking Loveland a skill
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 2: position player gives any credence to them also having been
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 2: interested in gent like we need weapons for Caleb Williams.
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 6: Which is so crazy to me because they just drafted Romadonsay.
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 6: They have DJ Moore like they have DeAndre Swift in
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 6: the backfield tight end was a spot that they have
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 6: Cole Kamed like, they have a pretty good starting tight end.
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 6: Now he's not as dynamic as love one, but I
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 6: just look at it and it's interesting. You know, different
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 6: ways to build around the quarterback, right, you know, they're
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 6: they're loading up on skill players in Chicago, they have
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 6: a big.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 2: Hole lesson Ben Johnson.
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 6: Well they did it last year too, so you know
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 6: they they drafted Williams and and Romaduonsay, you know, back
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 6: to back, you know, in the first round one and nine.
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 6: So yep, that's just the way they're building it.
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones. Eight five five, pats five hundred.
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 2: Shawn's in Connecticut. What's up, Sean, Sean? Sean, He's gone,
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 2: He's been holding on for a what can I say?
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 2: Cam's in Bedford, mass what's up?
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 7: Cam? Bedford? All Right, he's got We're not hearing the
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 7: volume now they're not there.
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, the fall for.
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 6: Jalen Walker finally ends, so he's going here to it
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 6: Atlanta at fifteen. I think this is a more comfortable
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 6: range for Jalen Walker. I never really bought all the
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 6: hype of him being an option at four overall, maybe
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 6: that some of that smoke was about a trade down scenario.
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 6: I always just viewed him as too much of a
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 6: tweeter linebacker to take him that high. Like, I didn't
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 6: think he was a full time edge player like some
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 6: other people did. His size, you know, six one, two forty.
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 6: I just don't think you can play three downs on
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 6: the edge in the NFL like that. And him at
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 6: fifteen feels a lot more realistic and comfortable than taking
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 6: him in the top five.
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, does this start some of the edge run now
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 5: with guys like you know, Mike Green, Shamar Stewart, Scordon.
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 7: He's my guy though, I really I really like him.
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 7: You talk about all the other stuff, non football stuff,
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 7: you know, in terms of leadership and character and all
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 7: that he has that off the charts. I really like
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 7: that player. I think he's going to be good Christians in.
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 2: LA He's been holding on for a while. What's up, Christian?
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 16: Hey, you guys good evening, and thanks for taking my
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 16: call here from La where it's sunny. But I'm a
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 16: little bit a little bit hotter than the collar. Hey, listen,
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 16: I like what Masan Graham stands for. I mean, what
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 16: Will Campbell stands for. I like that he fits the knees.
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 16: What I don't like is, as Darante Sarnecki said, if
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 16: you're picking within the top five, you better take someone
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 16: that puts the ball in the end zone or puts
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 16: quarterbacks on their butt. I think I'll get Will Campbell
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 16: a chance. He might not be a great guy to
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 16: protect Drake me left side. So let's move on and forward.
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 16: And I don't even know who you guys think. Then,
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 16: now that we believe we have someone to protect Drake May,
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 16: who do you think is a weapon that we can
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 16: bring in or the highest rated weapons you guys have
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 16: that now we can bring again to give drink someone
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 16: who drove the ball to my first guy. I would
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 16: like to see the third round, maybe without maybe without
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 16: second pick. In the third round, if the kid named
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 16: Dentony Thornton get some tape on sick with five everyone
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 16: four three he played Metcalf but a little faster.
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on my back of the envelope like a
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 2: faster you can.
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 6: If they take.
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 7: He's gonna go around after Metcalf.
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 6: Now, if they take Dante Thornton in the fifth round,
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 6: I'll say, nice, nice fly, right, like nice nice dart
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 6: throw here, not the third round pick.
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 7: Terrific skills in all seriousness, but I just hasn't really
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 7: put it together.
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I understand what Christians saying about you to those
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 6: you know, touchdowns or sack producers, But I would just say,
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 6: the guys you have on the team that are supposed
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 6: to score touchdowns can't score touchdowns to the offensive line
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 6: is as bad as it was last year. And that's
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 6: what we consistently saw. So the guy that's gonna score
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 6: touchdowns is Drake, and now he has somebody that is
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 6: going to allow him to operate to score touchdowns, you know.
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 6: And and it's just that's the way you got to
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 6: look at it.
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 7: So hopefully Christian's still listening. I know, Fred let him go.
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 7: I would just say, like, let's we're gonna get to tomorrow.
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 7: We're gonna see who's available and then sort of identify
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 7: maybe a weapon that we think makes some sense. It's
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 7: kind of hard to just say, well, that's the guy
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 7: that they need to target. When you're literally I could say,
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 7: Matthew Golden, you know, get twenty picks away. Does Matthew
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 7: Golden slip or sliders somewhere?
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 6: Well, I think he's already kind of sliding a little
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 6: bit here, and and maybe some of these receivers, you know,
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 6: Golden Buka, I think we're going.
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 7: And you know what happened as soon as one gets taken.
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 6: I would say early twenties. You know, one of these
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 6: guys might go and maybe you know a little bit
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 6: earlier than that, and then you'll see Golden Abuka. But
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 6: Burden is the one that I've had circled the whole time,
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 6: you know, with his character issues and some of the
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 6: things that teams have concerns about in terms of what
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 6: happened last year at Missouri. Does he fall into the
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 6: second round because of that? And at that point at
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 6: thirty eight, as a team that needs special and needs
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 6: playmaking on offense, do you just take a little bit
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 6: of risk on with that kind of stuff and just say,
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 6: you know, it's just a little bit of a diva.
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 6: You know, he's a wide receiver, right he wasn't getting
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 6: the ball, they weren't winning. Yeah, you know that sort
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 6: of thing.
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 5: I also just think that it's got to be one
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 5: of these next three picks. If you're a serious one
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 5: of a receiver that you want to maybe contribute to
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 5: the team, it's got to be in these next three picks.
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 5: And you have diminishing returns as you get into the
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 5: third round. I've said I wanted some speed, and I
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 5: think that's an element that you can still find in
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 5: the third round. But I don't really care about a fourth, fifth,
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 5: sixth round wide receiver, a flyer. You've got nine wide
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 5: receivers on the roster. That's the point where just let
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 5: the guys you already have compete, unless you're bringing in
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 5: somebody in the next tomorrow. Let's just say bringing somebody
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 5: tomorrow that has something unique about them that gives them
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 5: a chance to succeed in this room as it's currently constituted,
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 5: because you're quickly going to get out of a space
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 5: where these guys are going to even have a chance
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 5: to go against you know, guys in the second year.
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 7: I want to give them happen it breathe and you know,
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 7: and if like listen, there's guys. Plenty of guys get taken,
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 7: you know, third round, fourth round, fifth round. They work out.
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 7: But to your point, Mike, and I agree with what
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 7: you're saying. You can't rely on that it might happen.
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 7: You might you might hit it. You might find one
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 7: of those guys that slip for a you know, Terry
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 7: McLaurin that just sort of slips for whatever reason, it
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 7: turns out to be a really really good receiver. I
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 7: think McLaurin was a third or fourth round guy. Wasn't
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 7: it third round or third round guy for Washington. It happens,
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 7: you can get one, but yeah.
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 5: But it slowly gets tighter. And I mean, i'd just
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 5: rather say you get into day three now we're talking
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 5: about running backs, like there's gonna be some good running
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 5: backs left then. You know, that's how you have to
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 5: balance things out with how these groups are stacked. And
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 5: you know, like I said, we're getting into Fredzep, We're
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 5: getting into some wide receiver run, maybe some edge run.
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 5: You know, these are things I think that should definitely
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 5: interest the Patriots wide receiver defensive end if they're thinking
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 5: about trading back up here at the end, as we
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 5: enter the second half of the first round here, like
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 5: there could be some guys that they could target to move.
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would just worry, you know, at the wide
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 6: receiver position and draft like this. You know, we talk
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 6: a lot about the Terry mclaurin's and stuff like that
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 6: that those are an exceptionally deep wide receiver classes. That
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 6: day you often find those hidden gems like this one. Yeah,
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 6: this is not that right. This is not a receiver
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 6: class that's thought of as highly as that class was
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 6: or some of the other classes where that has happened.
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 6: So I look at this and say, you know, if
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 6: you're really going to get a guy that's going to
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 6: come in here and have a chance not to just
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 6: compete for a roster spot, but to be a top three,
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 6: you know, impact receiver, it's going to have to come
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 6: quickly here. Otherwise you're kind of getting what you already have.
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 6: You know, you're you're just sort of putting another name
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 6: in the hat.
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 5: Snow guy, the big guy that you know, the big
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 5: guy that can jump, I can't really run, the little
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 5: guy that can run.
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 2: But they do that.
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 7: If they do take a flyer.
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 6: And it's like Nolan, who is it?
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 7: If it is a flyer on a Day three guy.
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 7: I wouldn't mind Christians guy like something like that. Like,
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 7: like Kevin said, that's when you go for the like
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 7: the the toolesy kind of guy who for whatever reason
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 7: does have the production that matches.
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say my l for a reason, it's
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 6: an earlier or late thing at wide receiver. In a
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 6: draft like this, you're either taking a guy at thirty
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 6: eight that you feel like is going to come in
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 6: and immediately contribute and having a high impact, or you're
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 6: waiting on thorin. Isaac Teslaw is another guy from Arkansas
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 6: that's gotten a lot of love. It's a really good
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 6: athlete and you might be able to hit another level
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 6: in the pros.
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 7: Veric Dedholme really likes.
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know guys like that. You know those guys
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 6: you know, fourth fifth round that you can get that
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 6: have some upside, that have some real athletic tools. But
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 6: then there's like this dearth in the middle. There of
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 6: guys that are just kind of like what you got.
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 5: You guys are saying dearth a lot, because I've heard
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 5: earth come out of twice from you when you just threw.
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 2: A dearth too, So I've been.
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 6: It's a dirty draft.
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 5: It's a dearth of dearth mentions here on the show.
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 5: I just say that, like in terms of the weapons,
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 5: like I'd rather take a shot on a running back
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 5: where you have two guys entrenched in you know, Terrell,
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 5: what's his face like, you know, or even the tight
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 5: end position where there at least is a theory that
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 5: there's some room to operate and to compete, whereas the
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 5: wide receiver room, like there's like I said, there's nine
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 5: guys probably six of them right now that you could
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 5: at least say could be on the team. Like, so
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 5: that's just I know that that's not a high end group,
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 5: but I want to give some room to breathe to
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 5: some of these younger prospects.
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 2: Craigan's central mass. Don't ignore Paul's concerns. The man has
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 2: great negative instincts. He called the Joe Milton issue. Before
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 2: the season, Fred and Tamara mocked him like he was
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 2: a pouty child. He ended up being right. However, I
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 2: think Campbell will figure it out, just.
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 7: Like he hasdous negative is a great freaking line.
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 2: I think Campbell will figure it out. Any chance they
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 2: go with Tyler Booker in the second round, to build
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 2: the left side that's intimidating and violent.
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 7: I'm going to say there's a zero percent chance of that.
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 7: I'm going to assume that he was taken after that
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 7: email came in, But he was taken twelve.
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 6: Yea was yeah, very high. I agree with a lot
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 6: of Paul's concerns about Will Campbell. I just think at
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 6: this point, like they picked the guy, so like, now
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 6: let's see what he's made of, right, Like.
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 7: That's been around for a few years now, he knows
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 7: how we do it on Sunshine dot Com. We picked him.
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 6: Now, well, it's just like what the debate's over, right, Like,
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 6: this is the player they picked, right, So this is
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 6: the this is the one you're going to the dance with.
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 6: So like, when we get out there in training camp,
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 6: I'm sure my binoculars will be on the left tackle
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 6: and I'll tell you all about his past sets and
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 6: his run.
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 7: I thought it would be hilarious if we're on like
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 7: the upper deck and Evan's got the buyo's out. It's
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 7: like a telescope all the way down and like Harold
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 7: Landry comes in does a quick you know, one of
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 7: those quick you know, step outside, quick slant to the inside,
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 7: which is supposedly what he had some trouble with, you know,
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 7: that quick inside move and all of a sudden he
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 7: gets by him and Evan goes gotta move in the guard.
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 6: Well, I also do want to put that out there,
• 2:26:00
  Speaker 6: like he's gonna lose some blocks right like and so
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 6: like let's not you know, well, we're not gonna see.
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 7: It in practice because they don't have like an electric
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 7: pass rusher like Harold Landry is a good solid workman like.
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 6: They don't yet, No, like, where are they going to
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 6: get it about? Loaded with pass rushers? We got plenty, I.
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 5: Tell you, though. My radar is still way way up
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 5: for this tonight, like I still think I do.
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 7: So that's good. Let's get into that. Yeah, this is
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 7: where I facilitate for.
• 2:26:35
  Speaker 2: This is where you go to a break and then
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 2: you come back.
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 7: Okay, so they took Will Campbell, So now the need
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 7: for the tackle isn't there. That was my reason for
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 7: trading up back into the first round. I don't really
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 7: see the need to do that. I agree. Okay, Well,
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 7: Mike and Evan sort of they want to they want
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 7: something else. I think Mike wants an edge. But if
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 7: there one want to give up those ass Okay, I
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 7: thought you were just saying I messed it up.
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 6: No, No, But like we're very much our types. And
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 6: Mike is an edge guy and I'm a wide receiver guy.
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 7: That's really interesting defense.
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know if what listen, I think if Matthew
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 2: Golden all of a sudden is available at thirty maybe, yeah,
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 2: maybe he's a guy you would do it.
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 38: That.
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 2: That's just where I wonder, why is he available at thirty?
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah? Get your head right that that that's where my
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 6: head is at with wide receiver. You know, I just
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 6: kind of talked about how you know some of these
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 6: day too wide receivers. I'm not like crazy about a
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 6: lot of them, right, you know, I really like Noel,
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 6: I really like Kyle Williams. Like those are the two
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 6: guys that I would say, you know, I would gravitate
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 6: towards on day two. But if there's these uh you know,
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 6: a Buka Burden Golden, these guys start to slide a
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 6: little bit. You know, that's a way to really get
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 6: it high impact receiver out of this first round. And
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 6: if you're the Patriots, you know, at age, like my
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 6: whole take on edge and has just been such a
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 6: deep class that there'll be an edge at sixty nine
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 6: or seventy seven that could come in here and contribute
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 6: to the Patriots.
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 7: And were just sort of starting to get to the
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 7: area where you're starting to say, is X sliding? This
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 7: is kind of what we thought that maybe I thought
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 7: Jalen Jalen Walker, I thought was ide receivers. That should
• 2:28:21
  Speaker 7: have been I should have been more clear.
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we're getting to the point now we're
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 6: in golden territory. You know, realistically I thought he would
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 6: go a little higher than this potentially, But like I'm.
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 7: Looking at the Beast, he had him fifteen on his
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 7: top one hundred lists. So what are we are We sixteen?
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 6: Now we're at seventeen.
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 7: Who was sixteen Falcons? Oh okay, that was sixteen, and
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 7: they took Nolan. It's official MIC number thirteen. Mike's way,
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 7: no tomatoes, parties, please pickles and onions.
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 36: But I got you.
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 6: So I'll just click the red to the Beast, you know,
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 6: took Stewart.
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, here we go, and then Mike Green will
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 2: probably go.
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 6: So if you want any hope, you know, any hope,
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 6: if you want to really sink your teeth into some
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 6: Will Campbell tape. I would say, Shamar Stewart, who is
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 6: a freak athlete with like thirty four inch arms, you know,
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 6: the type of guy that's supposed to give Will Campbell problems,
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 6: right long, explosive edge rusher. I thought Will Campbell completely
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 6: shut him down.
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 7: Who's the guy from South Carolina, Kyle Canard?
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 6: I like, yeah, yeah, he did a nice job. Yeah,
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 6: well later in that game. Yeah, but Shamar Stewart, you know,
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 6: he should have been the guy that you get the
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 6: arm length extension, you get the speed off the edge,
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 6: like the power and all that stuff. I thought Will
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 6: Campbell did a really nice job against him. Uh in
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 6: that game, not so much with the you know, deuces
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 6: guy scorting over there, but I thought he was good
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 6: against Stuart. And you know, I think this pick for
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 6: the the Bengals again, and we're getting into that territory
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 6: this class where a lot of this is just betting
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 6: on traits and upside. You know, Stewart's production in college
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 6: was not very good, but he's a traits you know, toolsy,
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 6: high end athlete, one of the best athletes to ever
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 6: tested the combine, you know, really high end athlete, and
• 2:30:15
  Speaker 6: they're they're gonna hope that they can get it out
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 6: of them.
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to the phones. Let's start
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 2: off with Willem and Philim. What's up?
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 7: William?
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 36: What's up?
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 28: How you doing?
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 36: I understand the will the will Campbell pick.
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 36: You know some of the fans was not really happy
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 36: about it. You know, the reaction was just crazy tout.
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 36: I understand. We need to keep drake me up right.
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 36: I totally understand it. So to Evan, you've been cramming
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 36: about this idea about tackle all year because they didn't
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 36: do it last year, so he did this year. So
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 36: I want to know you're gonna get on board one
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 36: wide receiving there. So we only got the quarterback you
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 36: got to tackle. Are you gonna get on board and
• 2:30:56
  Speaker 36: wide receiving there.
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 6: I'm always on board with wide receivers. I'm just the
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 6: guy that I build through the trenches. I want to
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 6: build up front. I think those are the teams that
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 6: are the most sustainable. Do it that way. That's just
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 6: my preference of how to do it. But I'm not
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 6: anti wide receiver by any means. I just think that
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 6: those guys. Uh you know, typically you can find those
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 6: guys like we've been talking about, and I think tackle
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 6: it was more important this this offseason, more pressing needs.
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 6: If you want to go get a wide receiver, now
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 6: have at it. You know, you fill the need and
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 6: now you can add add on top of that.
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 36: So okay, So this just I'm gonna put this out there,
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 36: real fan, y'all always say that the pace of that
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 36: the receiver is always out.
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 39: There day two, day three, day four, you are heavy.
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 36: I don't think y'all have I think basically y'allmight forgot.
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 36: It's the New York Patriots have not been proven yet
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 36: jugment that you can draft, build, or even fire one. Okay,
• 2:31:56
  Speaker 36: I'm sorry, that's just a fact.
• 2:31:59
  Speaker 7: Okay, So why do you want to draft one early?
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 1: Then?
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 7: If they can't do it, then why do you want
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 7: to take one early? If they can't do it.
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 36: I'm not saying I don't want to take one take
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 36: one early. I'm just saying I'm just saying there, look
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 36: at their history.
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 7: No, but you criticized Evan because he wanted to build
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 7: through the trenches, and you think he's ignoring wide receivers.
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 7: I don't think Evan is ignoring wide receivers, But when
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 7: do you want to take one if they if the
• 2:32:27
  Speaker 7: Patriots can't take one, like, why are we gonna? Why
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 7: are we wasting our time?
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 36: Right, Paul, you're twisted my words. Listen to what I
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 36: just said.
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 28: You was right there.
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 36: The Patriots history. Yes, that's not improving, sir. They cannot
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 36: draft develop one.
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 7: Okay, So I'm gonna I'm gonna go on Patriots history.
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna I'm gonna play Devil's advocate here, Okay, because
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 7: I get a little annoyed with this line of thought,
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 7: namely the Patriots wide receiver that failed that Mike Rabel picked.
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 7: Mike raf just got here, right, So why are we
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 7: worrying about? Like what you know, what happens with nikkil
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 7: Harry that Bill Belichick took?
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 36: That's true interest? What about when Ellen Worth picked jal
• 2:33:08
  Speaker 36: and Pope?
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but Elliot Wolf isn't in charge now, Mike Rabel is.
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 7: So I mean you have to figure out something like
• 2:33:17
  Speaker 7: you either say that they should take a wide receiver
• 2:33:22
  Speaker 7: or they shouldn't take one because their history says that
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 7: they're not good at it.
• 2:33:25
  Speaker 2: But even even say both, But even then like I
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 2: was thinking to myself on my long commute about tight end.
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 2: And this is during the Belichick era. They needed a
• 2:33:34
  Speaker 2: tight end and they picked you know, Graham, who was
• 2:33:38
  Speaker 2: a good blocker, but pretty much that's it. They kept trying.
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 2: They go after Ben Watson, great athlete, Wasn't that great
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 2: of a tight end though. That was the problem. They
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 2: kept trying, and then they took a flyer on Rob
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 2: Gronkowski and bang they hit. You got to keep trying,
• 2:33:54
  Speaker 2: you know, even if you have the same regime, even
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 2: if it was Drod Mayo still here, to keep trying
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 2: to get a wide receiver, you know.
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 7: And that's all I'm saying, William Is, I agree with you.
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 7: They need weapons. They need a number one wide receiver
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 7: like Stefan Diggs is going to be a good stop gap,
• 2:34:12
  Speaker 7: but they need a number one wide receiver. But I
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 7: understand the history has been bad. That doesn't mean you
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 7: can't you can't find and plus.
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 2: Like Paul said, it is a new guy in charge.
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 2: So you know, I.
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 7: No, we're all with that. We're all in the same page.
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 6: Well, William Is, can I and you know I can
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 6: talk to I can talk.
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 7: To you William differently, than I talk to other guys
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 7: because you know, we we go back along with it,
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 7: so I can go back at you, and just like Eldrid,
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 7: I go at Eldrid too because he's my boy.
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 2: No, listen, we know we it's been a while. It's
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 2: been a minute since they picked a true w R one.
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 7: There's a lot of them out there in that one
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 7: a minute WR one, Freddie, there you got a man
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 7: of the young.
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 2: Thanks William.
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 6: I just wonder, you know, it's kind of what Paul
• 2:34:57
  Speaker 6: is saying, and I feel the same way about William.
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 6: We love William as much. You're a great listener, so
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 6: that we're not going Adam too much. But unless, like
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 6: they you know, let's take Travis Hunter out of it,
• 2:35:08
  Speaker 6: because clearly that wasn't having it. Like were they supposed
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 6: to take tet at four like or sorry t mac
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 6: right his mom, Like we're supposed to take you know,
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 6: were they supposed to take McMillan like that? That was
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 6: really the only other option, right if you if you
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 6: wanted to build from the outside in, then you could
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 6: have taken McMillan. But if you didn't want to, you know,
• 2:35:31
  Speaker 6: take McMillan, then you're kind of you know, who are
• 2:35:34
  Speaker 6: you going to take, Like you were going to take
• 2:35:36
  Speaker 6: Matthew Golden at four. Overall, he's still on the board
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 6: and we're at eighteen. So I just think that at
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 6: this point, you know, those were your two options. Maybe
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 6: if Tet was even in play at four, which I
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 6: don't think he truly was, But there was no Malik Neighbors,
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 6: there was no Marvin Harrison Junior in this group to
• 2:35:55
  Speaker 6: go out in there and say we're going to take
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 6: this guy at four. Right, So now you're in the
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 6: position that you're in. You're looking at thirty eight, maybe
• 2:36:01
  Speaker 6: coming up from thirty eight and trying to get the
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 6: receiver then. But like Deuce has been saying, I wouldn't
• 2:36:07
  Speaker 6: be surprised if they went edge with that pick. Like
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 6: they've talked really extensively about the trenches and the importance
• 2:36:14
  Speaker 6: of building at the line of scrimmage. So to come
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 6: up from thirty eight to draft a receiver, you know,
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 6: Deuce could be right, it could be a defensive lineman,
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 6: you know, to continue building up and fortifying the offensive
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 6: and defensive line. So it's just that's where they're at
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 6: right now.
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 2: We had a first guard taken Gray's Abel second second, Oh,
• 2:36:32
  Speaker 2: second guard. Oh okay, Tyler Booker, Sorry, I love the Seahawks.
• 2:36:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Grays Abel's he's going to be an absolute stud.
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 6: I don't know if he'll play center or guard. It'll
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 6: be either or I personally would play him at left guard.
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 6: I Joe Tunium I turned him right into it.
• 2:36:48
  Speaker 2: I think they're going to have to place center.
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 6: He's uh, he's a phenomenal, mocking great, great athlete, great
• 2:36:55
  Speaker 6: grade zone blocker, high level pass blocker. I mean some
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 6: of the things that he did at the Senior Bowl.
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 2: What's up, Sean and Connecticut you're on.
• 2:37:05
  Speaker 13: I was just thinking, as like a fun hypothetical, what
• 2:37:08
  Speaker 13: would Belichick do with this draft, because I think honestly
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 13: he though for a dual Carter and trade up kind
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 13: of because the Lawrence Taylor thing. But I was wondering,
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 13: way you guys were thinking.
• 2:37:20
  Speaker 2: Who's available from Rutgers.
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 7: I think he would have sold his soul to move
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 7: down out of the top ten.
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he would.
• 2:37:28
  Speaker 7: I don't know if he would have been able to
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 7: because I don't know if he would have found a partner,
• 2:37:30
  Speaker 7: But I think he would have been hell bent on
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 7: getting out of the top ten in this draft.
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. I mean, I can see some trades
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 5: that he would like with Campbell, But I agree with Paul.
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 5: I think it's probably too high and he'd be like
• 2:37:43
  Speaker 5: a lot of the teams right now that are selecting
• 2:37:44
  Speaker 5: that don't love these guys' first round picks, but they're
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 5: solid players. And see Bill just wanting to have like
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 5: fifteen picks in this draft and try to spread them
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 5: all out.
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 7: But when you hear people say, you know, whatever the
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 7: number is, twenty to seventy is the same. Yeah, doesn't
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 7: that sound.
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 2: Like that's up?
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 7: Sure? Yeah, traking down down. But there's no difference between
• 2:38:09
  Speaker 7: a you know, a bowl full of fifty players and
• 2:38:11
  Speaker 7: I can get five or six of them sign me up.
• 2:38:14
  Speaker 7: That's built.
• 2:38:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's been his m O forever.
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 6: So I think we should say just you know, getting
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 6: into nineteen now with Tampa Bay, we're starting to get
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 6: into the Shadoor Jackson Dart territory of the draft. And
• 2:38:27
  Speaker 6: you know, Pittsburgh's at twenty one. That that's the team
• 2:38:30
  Speaker 6: that everybody feels like they need to get ahead of
• 2:38:33
  Speaker 6: on if you want Shador Sanders or Jackson Dart really
• 2:38:37
  Speaker 6: both these teams coming up, Tampa Bay and Denver both
• 2:38:40
  Speaker 6: don't need quarterbacks, so I'd be interested to see Tampa.
• 2:38:44
  Speaker 6: I brought it up because the clock is going all
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 6: the way down. They just finally got to pick in.
• 2:38:49
  Speaker 6: But my guess is that they've been on the phone
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 6: trying to the trade out of this pick.
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 2: Yep, let's go to Ted and Cumberland, Maine.
• 2:38:57
  Speaker 7: What's up?
• 2:38:57
  Speaker 1: Ted?
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 9: We got.
• 2:39:01
  Speaker 2: That's right, we got.
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 31: One for all the great draft coverage outside of Mike,
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 31: you know, first round or first pick with gent that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the Bucks took a Mecca like Buka.
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 6: So likeg Buka, the second receiver off the board, you know,
• 2:40:30
  Speaker 6: non Travis Hunter category. So Matthew Golden is still on
• 2:40:32
  Speaker 6: the board and he was not the second receiver taken.
• 2:40:35
  Speaker 6: There are conversations that he was going to be the
• 2:40:36
  Speaker 6: first receiver taken and now he's gonna be at the
• 2:40:39
  Speaker 6: most the third receiver taken. So we haven't heard anything
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 6: about Matthew Golden in terms of like injury or anything
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 6: like that. But we're getting to the territory now or
• 2:40:49
  Speaker 6: you start to wonder if there's something underneath the surface
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 6: that didn't come out pre draft with Golden. I mean
• 2:40:55
  Speaker 6: he doesn't play it at forty times, but I still
• 2:40:57
  Speaker 6: think that I would have taken him over at Buka.
• 2:41:00
  Speaker 7: Like both of those guys. A wide receiver that you
• 2:41:03
  Speaker 7: know Golden and Burden. I would take either one of them.
• 2:41:09
  Speaker 7: I don't know if I would trade up for him
• 2:41:11
  Speaker 7: for either one of them, but I but I guess
• 2:41:12
  Speaker 7: if if you get close enough, you know, like Fred said,
• 2:41:15
  Speaker 7: you know, like with thirty I have to think about it, right.
• 2:41:19
  Speaker 6: Like, if you're not giving up a significant amount to
• 2:41:22
  Speaker 6: make it happen, I really want the guy. Yeah, maybe
• 2:41:24
  Speaker 6: it's one of six. You know, you're giving up thirty
• 2:41:26
  Speaker 6: eight and one of six.
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 5: I'm just I'm interested with the Bucks though, I mean
• 2:41:30
  Speaker 5: they you know, have long time had of course, you know,
• 2:41:33
  Speaker 5: Chris Godwin and Mike Evans. Last year you had the
• 2:41:36
  Speaker 5: other kid from Washington.
• 2:41:37
  Speaker 7: J and had had a really good second half of
• 2:41:39
  Speaker 7: the season, and.
• 2:41:40
  Speaker 5: Now you got another. You know, this is a little
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 5: bit of a pick in William's territory of just continuing
• 2:41:45
  Speaker 5: to hammer the wide receiver position.
• 2:41:46
  Speaker 7: I don't know how they found about the resident god
• 2:41:48
  Speaker 7: went a little bit, you know, getting a little bit
• 2:41:50
  Speaker 7: longer to stay ahead of it. Yeah, trying to stay
• 2:41:52
  Speaker 7: ahead of it. But I don't know, Like I don't
• 2:41:54
  Speaker 7: know enough about Tampa to know how much their defensive needs.
• 2:41:57
  Speaker 7: But you know, no corner, you know, the Texas kids
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 7: still there there? Yeah, thank you Mike and Will Johnson.
• 2:42:08
  Speaker 7: I don't know again, I don't know enough about the
• 2:42:10
  Speaker 7: depth chart for the Bucks to know what their specific
• 2:42:13
  Speaker 7: needs are on defense. But it does seem like an
• 2:42:15
  Speaker 7: extra pick.
• 2:42:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:42:18
  Speaker 22: Will Campbell on the stage, Well.
• 2:42:21
  Speaker 5: Of course, let's go aspiringly good clip of Will Campbell
• 2:42:24
  Speaker 5: on stage.
• 2:42:28
  Speaker 33: Will you are, mister Louisiana, But you just got a
• 2:42:31
  Speaker 33: love letter from the New England Patriots. You haven't stopped
• 2:42:33
  Speaker 33: smiling since you heard your name.
• 2:42:35
  Speaker 17: What's behind that smile?
• 2:42:37
  Speaker 38: Man?
• 2:42:37
  Speaker 22: Just all the hard work.
• 2:42:44
  Speaker 4: Congratulations.
• 2:42:58
  Speaker 23: I worked in the entire life.
• 2:43:00
  Speaker 5: Be up here.
• 2:43:01
  Speaker 34: It's able to get my name called bo franchise like
• 2:43:05
  Speaker 34: it means everything too.
• 2:43:07
  Speaker 22: We can feel that, we absolutely can feel that. Well,
• 2:43:10
  Speaker 22: you are brought to New.
• 2:43:11
  Speaker 3: England to protect Drake May.
• 2:43:13
  Speaker 33: What kind of tone are you going to sit on
• 2:43:15
  Speaker 33: this offensive line?
• 2:43:16
  Speaker 7: I'm a fight and uh to protect them with everything
• 2:43:19
  Speaker 7: like that, I will fight and die.
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 2: I love that he's one of the original minute men.
• 2:43:30
  Speaker 7: He's ready to go, much like I said when Jamal
• 2:43:33
  Speaker 7: Adams had a similar kind of comment, Well they don't
• 2:43:35
  Speaker 7: think there's a need for that, just saying.
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 2: But he is ready to go.
• 2:43:39
  Speaker 7: But all right, but the emotion was real though.
• 2:43:43
  Speaker 6: It's authentic. I was just about to say that, like
• 2:43:46
  Speaker 6: I know, some people probably think, all right, it's like
• 2:43:48
  Speaker 6: calm down. But that's him, like dad, that's authentically him.
• 2:43:51
  Speaker 7: Everything you hear about make fun of him.
• 2:43:54
  Speaker 6: That that was real, That is authentic. He is that
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 6: kind of guy.
• 2:43:58
  Speaker 2: I remember back in the day when ourselves was here
• 2:44:00
  Speaker 2: and early, you know, when he got here in ninety
• 2:44:03
  Speaker 2: five ninety four. That's what he was telling his offensive
• 2:44:06
  Speaker 2: lineman about Bledsoe. I don't care what you have to do.
• 2:44:11
  Speaker 2: You need to keep him clean. He would hammer that home,
• 2:44:14
  Speaker 2: you know, to those guys. Yeah, oh yeah, but I do.
• 2:44:20
  Speaker 2: I remember in particular the way the way Parcels would
• 2:44:23
  Speaker 2: do it. It was almost like he was saying, well,
• 2:44:26
  Speaker 2: I don't care if you have to die, he better
• 2:44:28
  Speaker 2: be standing up at the end of the play, you know.
• 2:44:32
  Speaker 2: But the way he said it, I will fight and die.
• 2:44:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, let's go, let's go, come on. I mean
• 2:44:42
  Speaker 2: every corny line, oh, I love it. I'm a sucker
• 2:44:45
  Speaker 2: for it.
• 2:44:46
  Speaker 5: So you know how it is like I mean, Ivan
• 2:44:49
  Speaker 5: speak this too, Like you go through this whole process
• 2:44:51
  Speaker 5: and you try not to get too attached to certain
• 2:44:52
  Speaker 5: guys because you know, you like you guys, you don't
• 2:44:56
  Speaker 5: I might end up on the Jets, but then you
• 2:44:58
  Speaker 5: meet this guy and now you can all right, now
• 2:44:59
  Speaker 5: I can him and he gives you back this stuff
• 2:45:01
  Speaker 5: and you know, this is stuff I love about the
• 2:45:03
  Speaker 5: draft Dough. It's just regardless, these people, these kids living
• 2:45:05
  Speaker 5: their dreams, all this that they've worked so hard for
• 2:45:07
  Speaker 5: and now they get to achieve it in front of everybody.
• 2:45:09
  Speaker 2: And it's just that type of attitude is becoming more
• 2:45:12
  Speaker 2: and more rare in sports. Forget about just football, you know,
• 2:45:15
  Speaker 2: but the Nils and it's all about me, me the
• 2:45:18
  Speaker 2: most mind guy, Like I'm willing to give my life
• 2:45:21
  Speaker 2: from my quarterback and I know it's it's you know,
• 2:45:24
  Speaker 2: not real perpectly.
• 2:45:25
  Speaker 5: We need to like cut into Drake Mami, like you
• 2:45:27
  Speaker 5: know Drake too much, just just.
• 2:45:29
  Speaker 2: Just saying that the way he said it, that let's go,
• 2:45:32
  Speaker 2: let's go.
• 2:45:34
  Speaker 6: It's a good point about like the whole process. And yeah,
• 2:45:37
  Speaker 6: the first time I posted on my Twitter about Will
• 2:45:40
  Speaker 6: Campbell was on November twenty six.
• 2:45:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know him on the back we go
• 2:45:45
  Speaker 7: too far away, Thanks for doing God's work.
• 2:45:48
  Speaker 2: We go through it.
• 2:45:49
  Speaker 6: We go through this whole process though, and then like
• 2:45:51
  Speaker 6: that you poke all these holes and all these guys
• 2:45:53
  Speaker 6: and all the But my thoughts on November twenty six
• 2:45:56
  Speaker 6: were stud. Like the first time I watched the tape,
• 2:45:58
  Speaker 6: I was like, this guy's a stud. And then we
• 2:46:00
  Speaker 6: know we've poke holes the arm length and this and
• 2:46:02
  Speaker 6: that and the other thing. And sometimes it's just best
• 2:46:05
  Speaker 6: to like go back to your initial gut instinct after
• 2:46:07
  Speaker 6: you watched him the first time and look at it
• 2:46:10
  Speaker 6: that way. And that's what I was getting at, was
• 2:46:12
  Speaker 6: not you know that, oh I had him first, like
• 2:46:14
  Speaker 6: you know, but yeah, he you know, you go back
• 2:46:17
  Speaker 6: to those types of things and you're like, all right, no,
• 2:46:20
  Speaker 6: this was this is what I thought when you know,
• 2:46:23
  Speaker 6: just without knowing if his arms were thirty three inches
• 2:46:26
  Speaker 6: or thirty two and five.
• 2:46:27
  Speaker 2: A's well that's kind of like like we've been kind
• 2:46:30
  Speaker 2: of going around circle saying it but in different ways.
• 2:46:32
  Speaker 2: But like the tape says this, this is what you
• 2:46:35
  Speaker 2: saw on tape, and then you start punching all these
• 2:46:38
  Speaker 2: holes and you're like, okay, despite all that, the tape
• 2:46:41
  Speaker 2: says this, yeah, you know.
• 2:46:43
  Speaker 7: But and I'm going by Evan here yeah, because I
• 2:46:47
  Speaker 7: call Evan the ball nowhere in the same situation.
• 2:46:50
  Speaker 6: Now you're now you're making up for making fun of me.
• 2:46:52
  Speaker 7: No, no, no no. The tape says the arms are
• 2:46:55
  Speaker 7: an issue. He gets beat because of the arm length
• 2:46:58
  Speaker 7: at times on those inside.
• 2:47:00
  Speaker 2: When he has issues, it's because but right, do.
• 2:47:02
  Speaker 7: You think that that might be more or less often
• 2:47:04
  Speaker 7: in the pros.
• 2:47:05
  Speaker 2: I think it's it's gonna be a little bit more
• 2:47:08
  Speaker 2: because he's gonna, you know, go up against guys who
• 2:47:11
  Speaker 2: are bigger and.
• 2:47:11
  Speaker 7: Longer, more athletic.
• 2:47:14
  Speaker 2: Right, But he's gonna get better too, you know, and
• 2:47:16
  Speaker 2: he's gonna get good coaching. And I hope, you know,
• 2:47:19
  Speaker 2: because that's that's part of it. We've talked about. And
• 2:47:21
  Speaker 2: he's got to get good coaching. He's gotta be he's
• 2:47:23
  Speaker 2: got to be good. Yeah, he's got to be.
• 2:47:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he was taken with the fourth pick. He's it's
• 2:47:28
  Speaker 7: it's on him. He's got to be a good player.
• 2:47:30
  Speaker 6: I just I do wonder, you know, with the overseets
• 2:47:35
  Speaker 6: and the things like that, Like it'll be great to
• 2:47:38
  Speaker 6: talk to Doug Moron about this now that he's actually
• 2:47:40
  Speaker 6: a patriot. I think, you know, when he's not, you
• 2:47:42
  Speaker 6: kind of can't really talk as in depth about it
• 2:47:44
  Speaker 6: when he's on your team yet, but you know, there
• 2:47:47
  Speaker 6: has to be ways technique wise to help him not
• 2:47:52
  Speaker 6: drift in his past sets and open up the inside. Like,
• 2:47:55
  Speaker 6: there has to be ways to help him.
• 2:47:57
  Speaker 13: You know.
• 2:47:57
  Speaker 6: Maybe it's helping him, like I was saying earlier, with
• 2:47:59
  Speaker 6: chips and stuff like that, so he's not feeling the
• 2:48:01
  Speaker 6: speed as much.
• 2:48:02
  Speaker 2: And I'm not I'm not the tape grinder that you are, Evan,
• 2:48:05
  Speaker 2: But in the little that I watched of him, I
• 2:48:08
  Speaker 2: noticed that he's very quick in his backstep, and that
• 2:48:11
  Speaker 2: gives him time to not allow the longer armed guys
• 2:48:15
  Speaker 2: to get into his chest so quick. He gives him
• 2:48:17
  Speaker 2: time to kind of set that base and he's got
• 2:48:19
  Speaker 2: the quick feed. I noticed that right away. He's got
• 2:48:22
  Speaker 2: very quick feet to form that foundation so that he
• 2:48:25
  Speaker 2: can absorb whatever's coming, you know, whether it's outside or inside,
• 2:48:30
  Speaker 2: and and give himself time to get ready for that
• 2:48:33
  Speaker 2: initial hit by maybe a longer player. So I think
• 2:48:36
  Speaker 2: he over time, he's learned that and you know, hopefully
• 2:48:39
  Speaker 2: he's gonna get even better at that. But yes, he
• 2:48:41
  Speaker 2: has to compensate a little bit. He doesn't have Tyron
• 2:48:44
  Speaker 2: Smith with that initial hit, which I you know, I
• 2:48:48
  Speaker 2: would love watching him because he would just stone the
• 2:48:50
  Speaker 2: guy once he got his hands in there, he would
• 2:48:53
  Speaker 2: stone the defensive player. That's not Will Campbell. He's gonna
• 2:48:56
  Speaker 2: win a different way. He's gonna win a different way.
• 2:48:58
  Speaker 6: He's got really strong hands once he gets his hands in.
• 2:49:03
  Speaker 2: Like like hands yeah, likeney honey, like huge.
• 2:49:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 2:49:07
  Speaker 6: He's got great grip straight So once he gets his
• 2:49:09
  Speaker 6: hands on you, he can control blocks and really hold guys.
• 2:49:13
  Speaker 6: That's that's not the biggest issue. You know, I want
• 2:49:15
  Speaker 6: to keep laboring the point. But you know, all that
• 2:49:18
  Speaker 6: you see on him on film where he loses reps
• 2:49:21
  Speaker 6: the most consistently is that the speed guys will come
• 2:49:24
  Speaker 6: off the edge on him and so he doesn't have
• 2:49:27
  Speaker 6: the reach to get out there. So he has to
• 2:49:29
  Speaker 6: overseet to get out there. And when they anticipate that
• 2:49:32
  Speaker 6: he's going to overseet, they'll hit him with an inside move, right,
• 2:49:35
  Speaker 6: they'll spin or they're whip inside or whatever the case
• 2:49:38
  Speaker 6: may be. And there's just a gap there. You know,
• 2:49:40
  Speaker 6: there's a there's a bigger area there to to get
• 2:49:44
  Speaker 6: through to the quarterback. So he sees a lot of
• 2:49:47
  Speaker 6: that of his on tape, and the question is can
• 2:49:50
  Speaker 6: they coach it out of him? Is there a way
• 2:49:52
  Speaker 6: to coach it out of him right? Or can he
• 2:49:56
  Speaker 6: coach around it right? You know, like those are the
• 2:49:58
  Speaker 6: two things you know that you can look at it.
• 2:50:01
  Speaker 6: But I think in general we're talking about two to
• 2:50:04
  Speaker 6: three plays a game. But unfortunately, for an offensive lineman,
• 2:50:08
  Speaker 6: that can be a strip sack that changes the entire game, right,
• 2:50:10
  Speaker 6: And that's just the way of the world for offensive line.
• 2:50:13
  Speaker 2: And Rabel said it. You know, if you're going to
• 2:50:15
  Speaker 2: drop back forty times in the game, everybody's gonna get
• 2:50:18
  Speaker 2: beat a few times. You know, that's just the way
• 2:50:20
  Speaker 2: of the NFL. But okay, David, and Texas is on
• 2:50:26
  Speaker 2: the line.
• 2:50:26
  Speaker 7: What's up, David?
• 2:50:29
  Speaker 2: Ah?
• 2:50:29
  Speaker 15: Yes, not to bring it back from what Evan was
• 2:50:33
  Speaker 15: talking about earlier, but he was talking about bringing or
• 2:50:38
  Speaker 15: building from the outside in on the receivers. My question is,
• 2:50:42
  Speaker 15: would you have traded what Jacksonville did to trade up
• 2:50:47
  Speaker 15: to get Jacksonville or I'm sorry Travis Hunter and I'll.
• 2:50:50
  Speaker 22: Take it off there.
• 2:50:51
  Speaker 7: Okay, thanks David.
• 2:50:52
  Speaker 6: No, I would not have done that.
• 2:50:54
  Speaker 7: I would not have either.
• 2:50:55
  Speaker 6: I think the Patriots have too many needs.
• 2:50:57
  Speaker 2: Well, you wouldn't have had to give up as much
• 2:50:59
  Speaker 2: as jackson I mean as yeah, as much as Jacksonville did, right, what.
• 2:51:03
  Speaker 7: Was different for one spot would have been pretty similar?
• 2:51:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, similar, But they gave a haul. If you think
• 2:51:12
  Speaker 2: that they'd have to give up the same, yeah, I
• 2:51:14
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have done it either, but maybe a little less.
• 2:51:17
  Speaker 6: Maybe some of those Day two and Day three picks
• 2:51:19
  Speaker 6: would have been a little less. But you're giving up
• 2:51:20
  Speaker 6: the twenty twenty six first.
• 2:51:22
  Speaker 7: I hate doing that. The second, Yeah, the picks. What
• 2:51:25
  Speaker 7: might have been different, Yeah, but I don't think you
• 2:51:27
  Speaker 7: can two to four to two is going to be
• 2:51:29
  Speaker 7: a similar haul.
• 2:51:31
  Speaker 6: And I think if it was a situation where you
• 2:51:33
  Speaker 6: know they you're it was a quarterback draft and you're
• 2:51:37
  Speaker 6: making that trade for a quarterback, that's a different thing.
• 2:51:40
  Speaker 6: This isn't a quarterback.
• 2:51:41
  Speaker 2: I wonder, I wonder if there was competition there that
• 2:51:44
  Speaker 2: forced Jacksonville to give up even more.
• 2:51:48
  Speaker 6: It's possible. I mean, I don't know. I everybody keeps
• 2:51:51
  Speaker 6: on disagreeing with me on this one, so I guess
• 2:51:53
  Speaker 6: I'll just be in the minority. Like I just still
• 2:51:56
  Speaker 6: don't understand what what the Browns are trying to accomplish,
• 2:51:59
  Speaker 6: Like I I'm just a little lost on Cleveland, and
• 2:52:02
  Speaker 6: then to take Mason Graham there at five, it's just
• 2:52:04
  Speaker 6: I question.
• 2:52:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't love the pick.
• 2:52:06
  Speaker 6: Like, and everybody's saying, oh, they had to make this trade.
• 2:52:09
  Speaker 6: Well not really, like they didn't have to make the trade. Like,
• 2:52:12
  Speaker 6: so you go into twenty twenty six, Jacksonville probably feels
• 2:52:16
  Speaker 6: pretty good about their team. You know, if Jacksonville's a
• 2:52:18
  Speaker 6: wild card team again like they were a couple of
• 2:52:20
  Speaker 6: years ago, Like that picks in the twenties now, like's
• 2:52:23
  Speaker 6: not that's not you know, the asset that you necessarily
• 2:52:25
  Speaker 6: think you're getting.
• 2:52:26
  Speaker 7: But they'll have an extra first round pick to move
• 2:52:28
  Speaker 7: up if they need to.
• 2:52:29
  Speaker 6: Well, they're gonna be picking number one overall with the
• 2:52:31
  Speaker 6: team that they have, like Cleveland.
• 2:52:34
  Speaker 7: Cleveland's not bad. Cleveland doesn't have a quarterback just like
• 2:52:37
  Speaker 7: everybody else. But they're not a terrible team.
• 2:52:39
  Speaker 6: They're just picking two overall.
• 2:52:40
  Speaker 7: I mean, removed from being a playoff team with no quarterback. Yeah,
• 2:52:44
  Speaker 7: I mean that's not a terrible team.
• 2:52:46
  Speaker 2: I think they were competitively competitive defensively, but yeah, their offense,
• 2:52:51
  Speaker 2: they don't have.
• 2:52:52
  Speaker 7: Have a quarterback. Yeah, and if ken Ticket plays like crap,
• 2:52:55
  Speaker 7: they'll be a top ten team again. Yeah, and they'll
• 2:52:59
  Speaker 7: be able to see a radically to be in line
• 2:53:01
  Speaker 7: to get a quarterback in the next draft with two
• 2:53:03
  Speaker 7: first round picks to move where they need to get.
• 2:53:06
  Speaker 5: Wait till next year.
• 2:53:06
  Speaker 7: Now, if they win too many games and they get
• 2:53:09
  Speaker 7: into mediocre purgatory, which is where I think they're probably
• 2:53:12
  Speaker 7: gonna end up, like in that seven win area, which
• 2:53:15
  Speaker 7: isn't going to get you high enough.
• 2:53:17
  Speaker 5: But still, like to Evan's point, I can't name one
• 2:53:19
  Speaker 5: guy on their offense right.
• 2:53:20
  Speaker 7: Now, Like who who Harry Judy?
• 2:53:22
  Speaker 5: I mean Nick Chubb, you know, Bick Chubb.
• 2:53:23
  Speaker 7: No, Nick Chubb.
• 2:53:24
  Speaker 6: No, he's a free agent.
• 2:53:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a free agent. But I mean if Jerry Chubb,
• 2:53:28
  Speaker 5: if they want him, yeah, I mean, if they want him,
• 2:53:30
  Speaker 5: but just here strong he's probably you know, to me,
• 2:53:34
  Speaker 5: to Evan's point, that's the move for the Browns to
• 2:53:37
  Speaker 5: redefine your offense. Nobody's talking about Yeah, No one's talking
• 2:53:41
  Speaker 5: about de Shaun Watson anymore. You bring in Travis Hunter,
• 2:53:43
  Speaker 5: now you know you have a new energy about your
• 2:53:45
  Speaker 5: offense a little bit.
• 2:53:45
  Speaker 7: I think that that move could be I just don't want.
• 2:53:49
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think it's off the board. Pard maybe
• 2:53:51
  Speaker 7: he's maybe he's much better than I'm giving him credit
• 2:53:53
  Speaker 7: for and he's just going to be a disruptive, you know,
• 2:53:56
  Speaker 7: interior defensive lineman. You know you've got Miles Garret the
• 2:53:58
  Speaker 7: outside and all of a sud and you got a
• 2:54:01
  Speaker 7: really really good defense look at us.
• 2:54:04
  Speaker 5: So the offense probably they didn't know.
• 2:54:08
  Speaker 6: They took Derek Harmon, the defensive tackle from Oregon, So I.
• 2:54:11
  Speaker 5: Saw somewhere at comp that's like this guy was made
• 2:54:13
  Speaker 5: to be a Steeler.
• 2:54:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no quarterback to their feelings would look I think
• 2:54:19
  Speaker 6: the biggest thing with the Browns. If they had made
• 2:54:21
  Speaker 6: that trade and they had taken genty at five, then
• 2:54:25
  Speaker 6: I would have said smart trade.
• 2:54:27
  Speaker 7: I would have liked it a lot better that way.
• 2:54:29
  Speaker 7: But if they if they stayed pat and they took
• 2:54:32
  Speaker 7: Travis Hunter and you think that they're in the line
• 2:54:35
  Speaker 7: for the first overall pick, where does Travis Hunter put them? Well?
• 2:54:38
  Speaker 6: I think I think the difference is, though, is what
• 2:54:40
  Speaker 6: Deuce is saying, right, Like, it's just you can't get
• 2:54:44
  Speaker 6: excited if you're a Browns fan for Mason Graham, you
• 2:54:47
  Speaker 6: can't and like you can you can sell them on
• 2:54:50
  Speaker 6: the right. But there's just a different juice, Like there's
• 2:54:52
  Speaker 6: just a different energy to the offense into the room.
• 2:54:56
  Speaker 6: Like if you have Travis Hunter and then you're able
• 2:54:58
  Speaker 6: to get one of these quarterbacks, it's going to go
• 2:55:00
  Speaker 6: in the early second round of Shadora, Jackson Dart something
• 2:55:03
  Speaker 6: like that, like that that you can sell, like that
• 2:55:06
  Speaker 6: that you can cook with.
• 2:55:07
  Speaker 7: I mean, were we ten picks away.
• 2:55:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so now they're going to get the door and
• 2:55:10
  Speaker 6: then Mason Graham like, you know, it's just not the
• 2:55:13
  Speaker 6: hal that I would have expected.
• 2:55:14
  Speaker 7: But if they can, if they can get a developmental quarterback,
• 2:55:18
  Speaker 7: maybe you feel a little bit better about it. And
• 2:55:20
  Speaker 7: you have that pick, you know, that extra pick for
• 2:55:22
  Speaker 7: next year, and you have two second round that.
• 2:55:24
  Speaker 6: Regime Andrew Berry and Stefanski, they better hope that Travis
• 2:55:28
  Speaker 6: Hunter is is not what everybody thinks he's going to be.
• 2:55:31
  Speaker 6: You know, like if he goes to Jacksonville and he's
• 2:55:33
  Speaker 6: as good as he was in college, like they're they're
• 2:55:35
  Speaker 6: going to be in trouble.
• 2:55:37
  Speaker 2: All right, let's go to uh George, Rhode Island. What's up, George?
• 2:55:43
  Speaker 40: Hey, guys join the conference. Patriots, Fancy is a ticket
• 2:55:48
  Speaker 40: oldest eighty three And for me, we're in year two
• 2:55:52
  Speaker 40: of what I hope is a multi year, multiple player,
• 2:55:57
  Speaker 40: three to five year window of successful draft picks. I mean,
• 2:56:02
  Speaker 40: in my lifetime, we had fair Banks drafts from seventy
• 2:56:05
  Speaker 40: three to seventy eight, parcels from ninety three to ninety six,
• 2:56:10
  Speaker 40: and then Bellichick. I guess what would you say two
• 2:56:12
  Speaker 40: thousand and to five, maybe twenty ten to fifteen. But
• 2:56:16
  Speaker 40: this is like year two where we've got to stack
• 2:56:19
  Speaker 40: multiple players coming out of multiple drafts to have the
• 2:56:23
  Speaker 40: sustained success that I think Rabel is looking for.
• 2:56:26
  Speaker 2: Right, Oh, sure, you got to build through the draft, Ye,
• 2:56:29
  Speaker 2: you have to have.
• 2:56:29
  Speaker 7: You better hope this is year one of that. Because
• 2:56:32
  Speaker 7: last year was considered a good one.
• 2:56:36
  Speaker 6: You have to continue it.
• 2:56:37
  Speaker 7: But that'd be a lot better than that, right, I Mean,
• 2:56:39
  Speaker 7: I've pushed back on the notion.
• 2:56:40
  Speaker 41: That they're like three years away, Like if this draft
• 2:56:44
  Speaker 41: is this, if George is on board here and they
• 2:56:47
  Speaker 41: get you know, two, three, maybe even four players this
• 2:56:50
  Speaker 41: year that are good, Yeah, absolutely can be accelerated.
• 2:56:53
  Speaker 2: It could be the edge of the playoffs.
• 2:56:54
  Speaker 6: They should be you have him in the playoffs, they
• 2:56:57
  Speaker 6: should be competitive this year. Like I'm not saying they're
• 2:56:59
  Speaker 6: gonna win.
• 2:56:59
  Speaker 7: A Super but it's a terrible, terrible schedule they're going
• 2:57:02
  Speaker 7: to play. And I know Fred hates when I do that,
• 2:57:04
  Speaker 7: but they are playing a terrible schedule, terrible.
• 2:57:07
  Speaker 2: In that it's tough.
• 2:57:09
  Speaker 7: No, no, and it's easy.
• 2:57:11
  Speaker 2: Oh you think it's easy.
• 2:57:12
  Speaker 7: Okay. They have a lot of teams that are at
• 2:57:14
  Speaker 7: their level. Okay, So let's go from a personnel standpoint,
• 2:57:18
  Speaker 7: and I think their coaching is going to be better
• 2:57:19
  Speaker 7: with Mike greebel.
• 2:57:20
  Speaker 6: Right, the better coaching, the free agency hall that they had.
• 2:57:24
  Speaker 6: You know, if they have a good draft, like everybody
• 2:57:26
  Speaker 6: keeps telling me that it's a three to five year rebuild,
• 2:57:29
  Speaker 6: If this takes three years, then this regime is going
• 2:57:31
  Speaker 6: to be blown out. Like they're not going to have
• 2:57:33
  Speaker 6: three years. It's not the NFL anymore. Like these teams
• 2:57:36
  Speaker 6: turn it over quickly.
• 2:57:37
  Speaker 2: You have to be competing really quick.
• 2:57:39
  Speaker 7: I would just say that if this is all contingent
• 2:57:42
  Speaker 7: on on Drake may making a progression, yes, and if
• 2:57:46
  Speaker 7: he does, then you should absolutely be competitive this year.
• 2:57:50
  Speaker 7: Seven eight wins, six six seven wins. I don't think
• 2:57:53
  Speaker 7: that's out of the question.
• 2:57:54
  Speaker 2: It better not be Robins than Fort Lauderdale.
• 2:57:58
  Speaker 7: What's that, Robin, Hey.
• 2:58:00
  Speaker 18: Guys, can you hear me?
• 2:58:02
  Speaker 10: Okay?
• 2:58:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 2:58:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like the win.
• 2:58:06
  Speaker 16: Before I knew.
• 2:58:08
  Speaker 32: Paul big fan here back in the day, there was
• 2:58:12
  Speaker 32: a rant you did about you and your son going
• 2:58:14
  Speaker 32: to ducking donut. If you can put that that on
• 2:58:18
  Speaker 32: the website, then I'm sure. I don't speak for myself
• 2:58:21
  Speaker 32: that that would be really cool. That just cracked me
• 2:58:23
  Speaker 32: up for years.
• 2:58:24
  Speaker 7: I appreciate it getting getting to my point, and this
• 2:58:29
  Speaker 7: is the point I want to make real quick because
• 2:58:30
  Speaker 7: I know you have other calls.
• 2:58:32
  Speaker 17: And I love the pick we needed Will Campbell. I
• 2:58:37
  Speaker 17: really think here's been the problem full time with everybody. Rabel,
• 2:58:43
  Speaker 17: Bill Edelman, Grunk. They all think that, and yet they
• 2:58:48
  Speaker 17: were great contributors to our success. But it was Brady.
• 2:58:53
  Speaker 17: We don't have Brady anymore, Bill, Mike Roberts, everybody need Yeah, okay,
• 2:59:01
  Speaker 17: enough with getting the good guys, the guys that that
• 2:59:05
  Speaker 17: are good, coachable. We need playmakers. We need game changers.
• 2:59:10
  Speaker 17: Look who won the Super Bowl last year, Philly, And.
• 2:59:13
  Speaker 18: It's a young man's game.
• 2:59:15
  Speaker 6: We need talent.
• 2:59:17
  Speaker 17: Talf's out here no more and worked with Tom.
• 2:59:19
  Speaker 6: He could he could turn Who's disagreeing with that to
• 2:59:22
  Speaker 6: chicken bleek?
• 2:59:23
  Speaker 28: Who he need talent?
• 2:59:25
  Speaker 6: Who's saying any differently than that?
• 2:59:26
  Speaker 7: Why?
• 2:59:27
  Speaker 6: Okay saying any different?
• 2:59:29
  Speaker 28: Why?
• 2:59:30
  Speaker 17: And why this aversion to to to drafting playmaking game?
• 2:59:36
  Speaker 2: Who should they have taken it for?
• 2:59:38
  Speaker 9: Me?
• 2:59:38
  Speaker 7: Okay?
• 2:59:39
  Speaker 2: Who should have they have taken.
• 2:59:40
  Speaker 17: It for I'm not talking about for I'm glad you
• 2:59:42
  Speaker 17: got before you built the house.
• 2:59:44
  Speaker 16: He needs the foundation. I'm talking about.
• 2:59:46
  Speaker 17: When was the last time.
• 2:59:48
  Speaker 16: Gentleman, all of you media.
• 2:59:50
  Speaker 17: Anyone who's listening, when was the last time New England
• 2:59:54
  Speaker 17: and Bill, I'm talking to you, especially a quiet or
• 2:59:58
  Speaker 17: drafted game breaking talent. And the reason you didn't is
• 3:00:03
  Speaker 17: because when Tom was head, you didn't have to flash
• 3:00:07
  Speaker 17: for everyone in patriotsation.
• 3:00:10
  Speaker 42: Tom is not here.
• 3:00:12
  Speaker 17: We need draft James.
• 3:00:15
  Speaker 7: Robin, I have another news flash, Bill Belichick isn't here
• 3:00:21
  Speaker 7: anymore either.
• 3:00:22
  Speaker 2: Do you think Drake May has the potential to be
• 3:00:24
  Speaker 2: that guy?
• 3:00:26
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 3:00:26
  Speaker 2: Robin? Do you think?
• 3:00:28
  Speaker 7: Okay? Do you do you think that they've tried not
• 3:00:31
  Speaker 7: to draft like do you think that their their goal
• 3:00:34
  Speaker 7: was to like have an aversion to playmakers?
• 3:00:37
  Speaker 18: Like?
• 3:00:37
  Speaker 7: Do you think when they drafted Nikhil Harry in the
• 3:00:39
  Speaker 7: first round. They said, we're going to draft him because
• 3:00:41
  Speaker 7: he's not a playmaker.
• 3:00:43
  Speaker 2: No, listen, Robin, you're right, they need more talent, But
• 3:00:46
  Speaker 2: do you think Drake may can be one of those people?
• 3:00:50
  Speaker 28: I love Drake.
• 3:00:51
  Speaker 17: I'm not talking about d Okay drafted Drake May.
• 3:00:55
  Speaker 7: I agree with that, but like the whole like they
• 3:00:58
  Speaker 7: haven't drafted a playmaker. I agreed, they've made bad picks,
• 3:01:02
  Speaker 7: but you're making it out to be that they're trying
• 3:01:04
  Speaker 7: to make bad picks, like they don't want playmakers because
• 3:01:07
  Speaker 7: they had Brady all those years.
• 3:01:09
  Speaker 17: I'm saying, gentlemen, that they think that Tom is still
• 3:01:13
  Speaker 17: here and we'll just draft some good guy that we
• 3:01:16
  Speaker 17: can just coast and then.
• 3:01:18
  Speaker 7: What what are you basing that on?
• 3:01:19
  Speaker 17: But work with Tom?
• 3:01:20
  Speaker 18: He's not here anymore.
• 3:01:22
  Speaker 7: But what are you basing that on?
• 3:01:23
  Speaker 1: That?
• 3:01:23
  Speaker 7: That's their mentality. They're trying not to draft playmakers because
• 3:01:26
  Speaker 7: they still think Tom is I think, why are you
• 3:01:28
  Speaker 7: basing your what are you basing your opinion on that?
• 3:01:30
  Speaker 17: Paul, I'm gonna ask you my question, why was the
• 3:01:33
  Speaker 17: last game breaking, young explosive game breaker in the last
• 3:01:40
  Speaker 17: fifteen years that this organization is drafted well?
• 3:01:42
  Speaker 2: They they made bad picks.
• 3:01:44
  Speaker 7: Tom, They've made bad picks, but they've tried, Like, you
• 3:01:47
  Speaker 7: don't think that they thought they were drafting a guy
• 3:01:49
  Speaker 7: like that with Taekwon Thornton. You don't think that was
• 3:01:52
  Speaker 7: the idea. This is like the fastest guy in the draft.
• 3:01:54
  Speaker 7: He's a game breaker. They've just.
• 3:01:59
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Oh, I'm always gonna think I did call back,
• 3:02:03
  Speaker 2: call back guys.
• 3:02:03
  Speaker 7: Those are my kind of argue, called back guys.
• 3:02:06
  Speaker 6: I just don't know who he's yelling at, Like, I like,
• 3:02:08
  Speaker 6: are any of us saying you're sitting here saying they
• 3:02:11
  Speaker 6: need better players? Yeah?
• 3:02:13
  Speaker 7: I don't know, Like that's why.
• 3:02:15
  Speaker 2: And I think they agree with that too.
• 3:02:16
  Speaker 7: By the way, are we like, when was the last
• 3:02:19
  Speaker 7: time they drafted a game breaking player? I don't know.
• 3:02:22
  Speaker 7: But do you don't think that they've tried to do that.
• 3:02:25
  Speaker 7: Do you think that they drafted Taekwon Thornton with the
• 3:02:27
  Speaker 7: idea that we don't need a good player because we
• 3:02:29
  Speaker 7: have Tom Brady.
• 3:02:30
  Speaker 2: The problem with his argument is he went back to
• 3:02:32
  Speaker 2: Tom Brady, and during the Brady years, you couldn't make
• 3:02:35
  Speaker 2: the case that they didn't have to They didn't feel
• 3:02:37
  Speaker 2: like they had to spend the money on these top
• 3:02:39
  Speaker 2: guys because we had Brady, and Brady by the way,
• 3:02:43
  Speaker 2: caught onto that or you know, that's the narrative that
• 3:02:47
  Speaker 2: Brady was getting a little impatient with that as well.
• 3:02:49
  Speaker 2: But since Brady, I think they realized that we can't
• 3:02:53
  Speaker 2: depend on our quarterback anymore. You know, we've got to
• 3:02:57
  Speaker 2: surround whoever it is with talent. I think they they
• 3:03:00
  Speaker 2: they're missing.
• 3:03:01
  Speaker 7: They've missed too often. I don't think it's a mentality.
• 3:03:04
  Speaker 7: I think it's a misavaluable.
• 3:03:05
  Speaker 13: Now.
• 3:03:06
  Speaker 6: The one thing that I would say for the caller
• 3:03:07
  Speaker 6: who I don't know who he's yelling at, because we
• 3:03:10
  Speaker 6: all want them to draft game breakers and playmakers and
• 3:03:13
  Speaker 6: all those types of things. But I think what he
• 3:03:16
  Speaker 6: was trying to say was like Jalen Polk, Jalen Polk
• 3:03:19
  Speaker 6: was considered they missed, but he wasn't considered.
• 3:03:22
  Speaker 7: A game breaker. But he wasn't a game breaker.
• 3:03:24
  Speaker 6: He was considered a high floor player that was going
• 3:03:26
  Speaker 6: to be a nice plug and play number killer receiver.
• 3:03:29
  Speaker 6: Argument right, Like, That's what I think he's trying to
• 3:03:33
  Speaker 6: say is that they need to take on some risk
• 3:03:35
  Speaker 6: on somebody that has that game breaking upside now to
• 3:03:37
  Speaker 6: Paul's point, they did with Taekwon and it failed miserably,
• 3:03:41
  Speaker 6: So right.
• 3:03:42
  Speaker 7: The argument that he should have come back with is
• 3:03:44
  Speaker 7: why not take a shot on Pickens or even Alec
• 3:03:47
  Speaker 7: Pierce or who is a game breaking kind of player?
• 3:03:50
  Speaker 7: Now he's not a volume guy like Pickens is much
• 3:03:52
  Speaker 7: more productive than Alec Pierce, but Alec Pierce is a
• 3:03:55
  Speaker 7: home run hitter.
• 3:03:56
  Speaker 2: Or do what you had to do to get Lad McConkie,
• 3:03:58
  Speaker 2: Well that.
• 3:03:58
  Speaker 7: Was last year. You have to do anything that you
• 3:04:00
  Speaker 7: had to do. All you had to do was pick right, right, right?
• 3:04:02
  Speaker 6: But I think that you know the caller's point. The
• 3:04:05
  Speaker 6: guy in this draft is to make it about this
• 3:04:07
  Speaker 6: draft and not ten years ago with Tom Brady.
• 3:04:09
  Speaker 7: But I would even make an argument that Lat McConkie
• 3:04:11
  Speaker 7: is not what he's He's not a game breaker, but
• 3:04:13
  Speaker 7: he would have been a much better pick than Jalen pol.
• 3:04:16
  Speaker 6: The pick that he wants them to make is Luther Burden, right,
• 3:04:19
  Speaker 6: like who is well, Matthew, But I think Burden is
• 3:04:22
  Speaker 6: a true game breaker. But you're taking on a little
• 3:04:24
  Speaker 6: bit of risk that he's not. He's not Will Campbell, like,
• 3:04:27
  Speaker 6: he's not a football high football character type of player.
• 3:04:31
  Speaker 6: So you're taking on that risk. But to the caller's point,
• 3:04:34
  Speaker 6: like they want to take you know, he wants them
• 3:04:37
  Speaker 6: to take risks like that on guys that have.
• 3:04:39
  Speaker 7: That the passion as you know, you guys know why
• 3:04:42
  Speaker 7: you can hung up.
• 3:04:45
  Speaker 5: I just liked mean to hang up.
• 3:04:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I just would say, well, Mike, you know that
• 3:04:49
  Speaker 6: better than anybody.
• 3:04:50
  Speaker 7: Like we have a news flash to Bill in everybody
• 3:04:53
  Speaker 7: that Tom Brady's not hit him. Like Bill's coach in
• 3:04:57
  Speaker 7: North Carolina. He's not here either.
• 3:04:59
  Speaker 6: Speaking of North Carolina, Marion Hampton just went to the
• 3:05:02
  Speaker 6: Chargers at twenty two, which that's an interesting pick for them,
• 3:05:06
  Speaker 6: very Jim harbup. Oh yeah, So we have Jehade Baron
• 3:05:11
  Speaker 6: to Texas from Texas to Denver, the Broncos at twenty,
• 3:05:15
  Speaker 6: Derek Harmon Pittsburgh from Oregon, and now a Marion Hampton
• 3:05:20
  Speaker 6: at twenty two to the Los Angeles Chargers. Still no shador.
• 3:05:25
  Speaker 6: The Giants, I guess, are purportedly trying to trade back
• 3:05:28
  Speaker 6: in though still into the first round to take a quarterback.
• 3:05:30
  Speaker 2: All right, Tim and California, you got big shoes to
• 3:05:33
  Speaker 2: fill after that last call. What's up, Tim? Yeah?
• 3:05:37
  Speaker 28: With the guy for Port Lauderdale related to the person
• 3:05:39
  Speaker 28: that Alex interviewed, Aah.
• 3:05:42
  Speaker 2: I think actually it was more coherent, but that's okay.
• 3:05:47
  Speaker 28: Anyway, Well, hey, thank you all for what you've been doing.
• 3:05:50
  Speaker 28: Really enjoyed everything leading up to the draft. I think
• 3:05:53
  Speaker 28: Will Campbell's great each fan. My question is should we
• 3:05:58
  Speaker 28: trade back in to try to pick up Matthew Golden
• 3:06:01
  Speaker 28: out of Texas?
• 3:06:03
  Speaker 2: Is that worth it or Well, we're at twenty three now.
• 3:06:06
  Speaker 2: I think it's a little early, but like we were
• 3:06:08
  Speaker 2: talking about, if he's around thirty, I'm tempted.
• 3:06:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we're getting too that fringe now that if you
• 3:06:14
  Speaker 6: were willing to throw seventy seven into the trade, the
• 3:06:17
  Speaker 6: Matthew Judam pick they have in the third round, which
• 3:06:19
  Speaker 6: is number seventy seven, you could probably start to get
• 3:06:22
  Speaker 6: up to this point of the draft with that pick.
• 3:06:24
  Speaker 6: This is about that range. Would they feel that Matthew
• 3:06:27
  Speaker 6: Golden is worth it is a totally separate conversation, but
• 3:06:31
  Speaker 6: if they wanted to start to think about trading back in,
• 3:06:34
  Speaker 6: we're getting there. We're getting into that range where they
• 3:06:37
  Speaker 6: could consider that. I think the thing with Golden to
• 3:06:40
  Speaker 6: me is, you know, he didn't really play to a
• 3:06:43
  Speaker 6: four to two nine on tape. If you asked me,
• 3:06:46
  Speaker 6: he's much more of like a technician of a route
• 3:06:49
  Speaker 6: runner in great ball skills. Kind of reminds me a
• 3:06:51
  Speaker 6: little bit of Stefan Diggs honestly, but just not necessarily
• 3:06:55
  Speaker 6: the guy that like, you're not drafting a field stretcher,
• 3:06:58
  Speaker 6: like you're not drafting a true four two nine type
• 3:07:01
  Speaker 6: of player. But he's a very talented receiver and I
• 3:07:04
  Speaker 6: would definitely be into it if they did it.
• 3:07:07
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Tim, appreciate the call. Let's go to Andrew in Portland, Maine.
• 3:07:13
  Speaker 7: Hey, Andrew, you.
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  Speaker 13: Do you hear me?
• 3:07:16
  Speaker 7: Yep?
• 3:07:18
  Speaker 14: I thank my call.
• 3:07:19
  Speaker 37: Uh you guys talking to Will Campbell tomorrow and I
• 3:07:22
  Speaker 37: Christian boy. Have you guys seen the video of him
• 3:07:25
  Speaker 37: going alligator hunting?
• 3:07:27
  Speaker 2: Have we seen the video of deer hunting alligator? Alligator hunting? Okay,
• 3:07:33
  Speaker 2: have you seen it? I have not, no Rod.
• 3:07:37
  Speaker 37: You gotta go on your phone as soon as you
• 3:07:38
  Speaker 37: can and watch this twenty minute video.
• 3:07:40
  Speaker 43: You can go an alligator hunting.
• 3:07:42
  Speaker 2: So give us a synopsis.
• 3:07:44
  Speaker 7: What did you like to pretend that I've seen it?
• 3:07:47
  Speaker 17: It's the lobster on it.
• 3:07:48
  Speaker 37: Because there's like a boat and uh, they've got a
• 3:07:50
  Speaker 37: trap set off with these guys go up there and
• 3:07:53
  Speaker 37: they're making true and lasting the entire time. The entire
• 3:07:56
  Speaker 37: time I'm watching it, I'm scared to death of their lives.
• 3:07:58
  Speaker 37: The basically is pulling up alligators. Their mountains are bound.
• 3:08:07
  Speaker 2: He's got a bad connection.
• 3:08:08
  Speaker 7: That's why I'm just so sure.
• 3:08:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he wrestled an alligator. It was it was fine.
• 3:08:14
  Speaker 6: I don't think you need to go run home and
• 3:08:17
  Speaker 6: watch it. It was like, it's cool. I hope he
• 3:08:19
  Speaker 6: never does it again.
• 3:08:20
  Speaker 2: Like contract When I was a kid, we were on
• 3:08:25
  Speaker 2: our way to Disney World and we stopped in Saint
• 3:08:27
  Speaker 2: Augustine at the Alligator Farm. I mean there's like thousands
• 3:08:30
  Speaker 2: and there's a technique to wrestling these things so you.
• 3:08:34
  Speaker 5: Don't get bid.
• 3:08:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, like and how to approach them and all that,
• 3:08:37
  Speaker 2: and the way their jaws work and everything like that.
• 3:08:39
  Speaker 2: So if you know what you're doing, obviously it's still dangerous.
• 3:08:43
  Speaker 5: But it's not like stop off with the wife and
• 3:08:46
  Speaker 5: the kids and like, all right, we're gonna give you
• 3:08:47
  Speaker 5: a five minute lesson on geeta wrestling. All right, go ahead, hoping, yeah,
• 3:08:50
  Speaker 5: there you go.
• 3:08:52
  Speaker 2: So anyway, Jr. It's in Florida. What's up, j R?
• 3:08:57
  Speaker 7: Who shot you?
• 3:08:58
  Speaker 16: And what's going on?
• 3:08:59
  Speaker 18: Guy?
• 3:08:59
  Speaker 7: Hey?
• 3:09:02
  Speaker 18: Okay, So I'm gonna be the one to say that
• 3:09:05
  Speaker 18: I really didn't care for the Campbell pairs for the
• 3:09:08
  Speaker 18: simple fact that if if it is that he he
• 3:09:13
  Speaker 18: can't perform there because of his arms or whatever it is,
• 3:09:16
  Speaker 18: and they gotta they gotta slide him over to tackle guard,
• 3:09:20
  Speaker 18: that means that he's not performing well this year, and
• 3:09:24
  Speaker 18: that's not good for Drake May number one. Number two. Also,
• 3:09:28
  Speaker 18: when the guy that was just going crazy about the
• 3:09:30
  Speaker 18: star players or the game breaker players whatever he was saying,
• 3:09:34
  Speaker 18: I kind of got his point. And you guys have
• 3:09:36
  Speaker 18: brought up you know, you don't think that's what they
• 3:09:38
  Speaker 18: did with Taekwon Thornton. Tae Kwon Thornton at that point,
• 3:09:43
  Speaker 18: he was a reach, you know. I know he had
• 3:09:45
  Speaker 18: the fast forty time and all that, but he was
• 3:09:48
  Speaker 18: a reach. He wasn't he wasn't doing anything special at.
• 3:09:50
  Speaker 7: Baylor right where he was a reach as a game breaker. Yep,
• 3:09:54
  Speaker 7: they reached for a playmaking player and it didn't work.
• 3:09:59
  Speaker 18: Yeah, but Pickings went right after that and he's the better.
• 3:10:03
  Speaker 7: Pick, right, Which is my point, Jar that they've misevaluated,
• 3:10:08
  Speaker 7: they haven't necessarily had a bad mentality. They're they're just
• 3:10:11
  Speaker 7: not picking the right guys.
• 3:10:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I guess our point against Fort Lauderdale was,
• 3:10:16
  Speaker 2: it's not like they disagree with you, mister fort Latter,
• 3:10:19
  Speaker 2: they agreed they need these guys, they're just missing.
• 3:10:22
  Speaker 7: I'm with h JR. Yeah, I'm with you JR. I
• 3:10:24
  Speaker 7: think that they do. They need these players badly.
• 3:10:28
  Speaker 17: Their failure to evaluate talent, yeah, I agree, it's really
• 3:10:32
  Speaker 17: killed them at.
• 3:10:32
  Speaker 18: Those at those stark positions, you know, the positions where
• 3:10:36
  Speaker 18: we needed them to hit Me. Personally, okay, I feel
• 3:10:41
  Speaker 18: like the Campbell pick is a gamble. Okay, Personally, I
• 3:10:45
  Speaker 18: think they should have took gend if they were going
• 3:10:47
  Speaker 18: to stick and pick it for I would have loved
• 3:10:48
  Speaker 18: for them to trade back. If they couldn't have traded back,
• 3:10:52
  Speaker 18: I think they should have stuck the pick and took
• 3:10:54
  Speaker 18: Genc because he's going to be able to bail out.
• 3:10:57
  Speaker 18: He's going to be able to bail out May in
• 3:10:58
  Speaker 18: certain you know and so areas and take some sort
• 3:11:01
  Speaker 18: of load off him.
• 3:11:02
  Speaker 7: I don't I don't hate it.
• 3:11:03
  Speaker 18: A guy like Ersery or or or Connorley even if
• 3:11:07
  Speaker 18: you've got to move up a little bit, maybe if
• 3:11:08
  Speaker 18: Simmons is still sitting there, you still get you know,
• 3:11:11
  Speaker 18: one of those guys. I just I think it's too
• 3:11:15
  Speaker 18: much of a of a risk with Campbell, with the
• 3:11:18
  Speaker 18: state that this team is in that if he does
• 3:11:21
  Speaker 18: start getting burned at left packle, we're in big trouble
• 3:11:23
  Speaker 18: because bigs A loan doesn't move the needle.
• 3:11:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't hate you, don't hate your theory. I
• 3:11:29
  Speaker 7: mean I like the Campbell pick, but you know that's
• 3:11:31
  Speaker 7: the mic. That's the mic to show theory. You know,
• 3:11:33
  Speaker 7: get the playmaker again, to go back to you know
• 3:11:37
  Speaker 7: j r. And was the Fort Lauder deal guy.
• 3:11:41
  Speaker 6: Which is okay, we're calling him Brady's not here.
• 3:11:45
  Speaker 7: That's a playmaker. Genty is a playmaker and he's a
• 3:11:48
  Speaker 7: game breaking type guy. And he would be.
• 3:11:52
  Speaker 2: To hear from if you if they had picked Genty,
• 3:11:54
  Speaker 2: would he be like, Okay, So that's what I'm talking about.
• 3:11:57
  Speaker 6: It's a it's a The draft is always about like
• 3:12:00
  Speaker 6: coin flips of like you could have done this, but
• 3:12:02
  Speaker 6: you did that instead. That's the coin flip for this draft.
• 3:12:05
  Speaker 6: You could have taken Genty and traded back.
• 3:12:06
  Speaker 7: Up we're twenty three and all of those tackles that,
• 3:12:10
  Speaker 7: like the secondary tackles are still available. So you probably
• 3:12:14
  Speaker 7: could trade seventy seven. Yeah, you know, you fit to
• 3:12:19
  Speaker 7: go from thirty eight to twenty five. You could probably
• 3:12:22
  Speaker 7: trade seventy seven.
• 3:12:23
  Speaker 6: Maybe Matt get Helden just went to the Packers.
• 3:12:26
  Speaker 7: Maybe you'd have to throw something else in, but you
• 3:12:28
  Speaker 7: could have gotten in a position to take Connorly or
• 3:12:31
  Speaker 7: Simmons h or you know. You know, and because I'm
• 3:12:36
  Speaker 7: going to guess those guys are going to come soon, yep.
• 3:12:38
  Speaker 7: You know Minnesota as a team that they had some
• 3:12:40
  Speaker 7: tackle issues last year. They had to bring in the
• 3:12:43
  Speaker 7: guy that everybody wanted to just Cam Robinson. So maybe
• 3:12:46
  Speaker 7: they're going to be looking to do something there that
• 3:12:48
  Speaker 7: you know, with Deriso coming back off injury, go to
• 3:12:52
  Speaker 7: green Bay.
• 3:12:53
  Speaker 5: Stacking guy, green Bay. I mean suddenly green.
• 3:12:56
  Speaker 7: Bay taking receivers in the first round. My mind's blown.
• 3:12:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's his face, Christian Watson probably out most of
• 3:13:02
  Speaker 5: the yearnet right, but they continue each year. I mean,
• 3:13:07
  Speaker 5: I I just I respect the Packers with the way
• 3:13:09
  Speaker 5: that they continue to always try to stack these receivers
• 3:13:12
  Speaker 5: the tight ends. They you know, they don't they never rest.
• 3:13:16
  Speaker 7: On that, and I wonder if they've maybe a little
• 3:13:18
  Speaker 7: bit leary of which one was the one that gave
• 3:13:20
  Speaker 7: him some problems with you know, he can't end up
• 3:13:24
  Speaker 7: coming back, but they had some issues with him. Maybe
• 3:13:26
  Speaker 7: they'll look to maybe they look to move.
• 3:13:28
  Speaker 5: But it's like but it's like every year, it's like
• 3:13:29
  Speaker 5: Dobbs Jaden Reeve Christians, and they're always taking Day one,
• 3:13:34
  Speaker 5: Day two receivers.
• 3:13:35
  Speaker 7: Watson. I think Mike is right. I think Watson's seasons
• 3:13:38
  Speaker 7: in Jeopardy.
• 3:13:40
  Speaker 2: We've had some good calls. Let's see if we can
• 3:13:42
  Speaker 2: keep up. The had some really excellent Tim's in Seattle.
• 3:13:47
  Speaker 7: What's up?
• 3:13:47
  Speaker 2: Tim?
• 3:13:48
  Speaker 5: It was a duncan.
• 3:13:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah, being challenged.
• 3:13:52
  Speaker 14: What's going on?
• 3:13:52
  Speaker 36: Guys?
• 3:13:53
  Speaker 17: Hey, I was thinking.
• 3:13:56
  Speaker 44: Maybe trading up into getting a second second round pick
• 3:14:02
  Speaker 44: and picking up a defensive end, So maybe getting a
• 3:14:06
  Speaker 44: wide receiver at thirty eight or getting a high end
• 3:14:09
  Speaker 44: defensive end here in the second round.
• 3:14:12
  Speaker 39: Okay, still seeing.
• 3:14:14
  Speaker 14: Some guys on the board here that I'm interested in.
• 3:14:17
  Speaker 14: What do you guys think?
• 3:14:19
  Speaker 7: Sure?
• 3:14:19
  Speaker 5: I agree, I think those are the two positions the
• 3:14:21
  Speaker 5: most interest to me.
• 3:14:22
  Speaker 7: If they they I know that's for you.
• 3:14:24
  Speaker 5: Edgen receiver edgen receiver.
• 3:14:26
  Speaker 2: I mean those are I knew.
• 3:14:28
  Speaker 7: I knew one of my expositions would be edge.
• 3:14:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, and maybe maybe dark Horse a little
• 3:14:31
  Speaker 5: bit with the running backs kicker, I think those are
• 3:14:33
  Speaker 5: coming a little later. Kick, but those are the spots
• 3:14:37
  Speaker 5: in need that that's still interest me the most.
• 3:14:39
  Speaker 2: So I agree. So it sounds like we're best player available.
• 3:14:42
  Speaker 2: Let's forget it, We're just going for a need right now,
• 3:14:45
  Speaker 2: Is that right?
• 3:14:45
  Speaker 7: Well, I think that you're marrying the two.
• 3:14:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a blend.
• 3:14:50
  Speaker 7: That means. I mean, on Brugle's broward, Mike Green is ten.
• 3:14:54
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 3:14:54
  Speaker 7: I know there's some off field more I've never bet
• 3:14:58
  Speaker 7: I'm going to guess, but I'm gonna guess is legit
• 3:15:01
  Speaker 7: since he's ten on the Beast's list and we're in
• 3:15:04
  Speaker 7: the mid twenties. Yeah, and he hasn't gone yet, so
• 3:15:06
  Speaker 7: I'm going to guess that some of the teams, you know,
• 3:15:08
  Speaker 7: either have him off the board or I have some
• 3:15:10
  Speaker 7: serious red flag.
• 3:15:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, like the top two edges right now. You know,
• 3:15:13
  Speaker 6: James Peers from Tennessee is not quite the same category
• 3:15:17
  Speaker 6: of concerns as Mike Green, but has his own kind
• 3:15:20
  Speaker 6: of like character red flags, motivation stuff and things like that.
• 3:15:24
  Speaker 7: Is Ezraka a guy that you'd like here, the envelope
• 3:15:27
  Speaker 7: guy Freddyman?
• 3:15:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I would definitely love Azraku. You know, I
• 3:15:31
  Speaker 6: think that, you know, Scorton's still there, obviously, Princely is
• 3:15:36
  Speaker 6: still there from Ole miss I just.
• 3:15:40
  Speaker 7: I think you can beat Matthew.
• 3:15:43
  Speaker 6: I like that. I think you can be patient at
• 3:15:45
  Speaker 6: that position, like I wouldn't. I wouldn't jump at EDG Dresser.
• 3:15:49
  Speaker 6: I just think there's too much talent on the board
• 3:15:53
  Speaker 6: at that spot, so I'd be patient there. Like I
• 3:15:56
  Speaker 6: think you could take one at thirty eight, but I
• 3:15:58
  Speaker 6: don't think you need to trade up from thirty eight.
• 3:16:00
  Speaker 6: You know there'll be somebody there that can contribute, that'll
• 3:16:03
  Speaker 6: be a good player for them. At thirty eight.
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  Speaker 14: Have you know?
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  Speaker 5: One left?
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  Speaker 27: Football code?
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  Speaker 2: It's do you how to pick them out? Are you
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  Speaker 6: Here come the Giants.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, wow, all right, go yeah, Viking selection is in.
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  Speaker 6: It's a good pick a he's a good player. It's
• 3:21:06
  Speaker 6: a little high.
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  Speaker 2: But you say the Giants are trading up.
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  Speaker 6: The Giants are on the clock.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so they're taking the Texans pick correct, And.
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  Speaker 7: I'll tell you Cassio learned that the the Belichick school.
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  Speaker 7: He loves to trade.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, just f y. Drake May putting out a
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  Speaker 5: tweet with Will Campbell's reaction to being drafted when he
• 3:21:30
  Speaker 5: got teared up, saying love this guy already LFG. So
• 3:21:33
  Speaker 5: Drake put it out there that emotional moment for Will
• 3:21:36
  Speaker 5: Campbell too. So I think he moved all of us.
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  Speaker 5: It's pretty cool. Maybe we can make him cry.
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  Speaker 14: Tom.
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  Speaker 2: I think, well, I think you know we have we
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  Speaker 2: have we often have the call to the hall. I
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  Speaker 2: think now we have the call to the.
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  Speaker 5: Draw, call to the draw.
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  Speaker 6: So the question is there the Giants trading up for
• 3:21:51
  Speaker 6: Jackson Dart or Sanders.
• 3:21:52
  Speaker 5: That the Dart would That would be a severe blow
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  Speaker 5: to Shard because there's.
• 3:21:56
  Speaker 6: Certainly some buzz that they like Jackson Dart more than
• 3:21:59
  Speaker 6: should do.
• 3:22:00
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• 3:22:02
  Speaker 7: for Jackson Dart.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have feel bad for Dion.
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  Speaker 7: Not for Dion, don't worry about it.
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• 3:22:15
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 6: So the trade, which I think is important if the
• 3:22:20
  Speaker 6: Patriots are going to try to get up here in
• 3:22:21
  Speaker 6: the first round, back into the first round. The Giants
• 3:22:25
  Speaker 6: sent thirty four, ninety nine and a twenty twenty six
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  Speaker 6: third round pick to come up from thirty four to
• 3:22:33
  Speaker 6: twenty five, sonety nine and seventy.
• 3:22:37
  Speaker 7: Seven was gonna well, they didn't have, They didn't have
• 3:22:40
  Speaker 7: seventy seven.
• 3:22:41
  Speaker 6: Still could do it, Still could do it, okay.
• 3:22:45
  Speaker 7: Because I thought seventy seven would get you to twenty five,
• 3:22:47
  Speaker 7: but clearly they they needed ninety nine and a third
• 3:22:51
  Speaker 7: round of next year. That's more than just seventy seven.
• 3:22:53
  Speaker 6: Well, it's twenty two pick difference, right between seventy seven
• 3:22:56
  Speaker 6: and ninety nine.
• 3:22:57
  Speaker 7: No, no, no, but they're going from thirty four to
• 3:22:59
  Speaker 7: twenty five. We would have going from thirty eight to
• 3:23:01
  Speaker 7: twenty five. Sure, I thought seventy seven would get that done. Yeah,
• 3:23:04
  Speaker 7: you probably would have had to throw a future third
• 3:23:06
  Speaker 7: rounder or something in there.
• 3:23:07
  Speaker 6: Maybe one of six or one of the fifth higher
• 3:23:11
  Speaker 6: fifth round pick.
• 3:23:13
  Speaker 46: Uh.
• 3:23:13
  Speaker 2: Back to the phones we go, and it's Jonah.
• 3:23:17
  Speaker 7: Buffalo trade chat is not always full proof.
• 3:23:19
  Speaker 2: What's up, Jonah?
• 3:23:21
  Speaker 28: Yeah?
• 3:23:22
  Speaker 18: Howother going?
• 3:23:23
  Speaker 7: Guys?
• 3:23:23
  Speaker 38: Okay, So I'm a big fan of Evan and I
• 3:23:29
  Speaker 38: really want Noel.
• 3:23:33
  Speaker 7: Same really the second round Jalen Nolan? Is that what
• 3:23:37
  Speaker 7: you're saying?
• 3:23:38
  Speaker 16: And Josh McDaniel's offense.
• 3:23:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Sam, Yeah, and I think he's a great fit.
• 3:23:44
  Speaker 7: I think that, you know, we're really not changing the offense.
• 3:23:47
  Speaker 5: Well, no it guys.
• 3:23:49
  Speaker 7: You guys are telling me.
• 3:23:50
  Speaker 6: I don't think it's fair. I don't think it's fair
• 3:23:53
  Speaker 6: to call call He's not Julian Edelman or Wes Welker.
• 3:23:56
  Speaker 7: He's more of a speed slot.
• 3:23:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, speed slot, Tyler Lockett.
• 3:24:00
  Speaker 5: When you say power slot better, that's my power slots.
• 3:24:05
  Speaker 7: But I agree with Evan. I watched a little of
• 3:24:08
  Speaker 7: him because you guys been talking about them so much,
• 3:24:10
  Speaker 7: and he does he gets downfields a little bit. I
• 3:24:12
  Speaker 7: you know, I dared to compare him to Mount Cook's.
• 3:24:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah there you go, Yeah, Kirk. Maybe Kirk is not
• 3:24:19
  Speaker 7: bad din Store.
• 3:24:20
  Speaker 6: I don't know if he's going to play as much
• 3:24:22
  Speaker 6: on the outside as Brandon Cooks has in his career.
• 3:24:24
  Speaker 6: He's definitely more of like a zero slot receiver that's
• 3:24:28
  Speaker 6: going to move inside and move around the formation. But
• 3:24:31
  Speaker 6: he's got juice he can get open.
• 3:24:32
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 3:24:32
  Speaker 6: I think between him and Kyle Williams are kind of
• 3:24:34
  Speaker 6: my two Day two crushes right now. If you want
• 3:24:37
  Speaker 6: game breakers, as the callers have told us, it is
• 3:24:41
  Speaker 6: what they want, I think if you're not getting burdened,
• 3:24:43
  Speaker 6: then those two guys are kind of the next two
• 3:24:45
  Speaker 6: great game breakers on the board. And it's Jackson Dart
• 3:24:49
  Speaker 6: by the way to the Giants.
• 3:24:51
  Speaker 5: Wow, I feel bad for him. You're gonna send him
• 3:24:54
  Speaker 5: some cookies or something?
• 3:24:56
  Speaker 7: Do you not like? Do not ever? Do that.
• 3:24:58
  Speaker 5: No, I kind of think it's funny when guys are
• 3:24:59
  Speaker 5: just like, wow.
• 3:25:01
  Speaker 7: Ouch, it's not so sneaky anymore.
• 3:25:04
  Speaker 6: It's kind of funny when guys slide.
• 3:25:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the guys that is just like I mean, the
• 3:25:08
  Speaker 5: way he was at the podium where he's like you
• 3:25:10
  Speaker 5: told me that he's going to repeat itself.
• 3:25:12
  Speaker 7: You know, it's kind of funny. It's kind of funny
• 3:25:14
  Speaker 7: when someone works their whole life to do one thing
• 3:25:16
  Speaker 7: and one moment comes and all their dreams get crushed
• 3:25:18
  Speaker 7: and they have to wait a little longer.
• 3:25:20
  Speaker 2: But you notice, like early, I just kind of feel
• 3:25:25
  Speaker 2: bad wherever Sanders is, they had a camera they haven't
• 3:25:27
  Speaker 2: been going to. I wonder if they said get out.
• 3:25:31
  Speaker 7: Well, he has his own party, he has.
• 3:25:33
  Speaker 6: His own party. I'm sure he has jurisdiction over when
• 3:25:35
  Speaker 6: that came exactly turned on and when it doesn't.
• 3:25:38
  Speaker 2: That's what That's what I must say. And is Jonah
• 3:25:41
  Speaker 2: still there?
• 3:25:43
  Speaker 16: I'm still here?
• 3:25:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 3:25:45
  Speaker 7: Okay, So we all like Jalen Noel no no, no,
• 3:25:49
  Speaker 7: no no no. I think I called him Noel and.
• 3:25:52
  Speaker 5: I've called it months, but it's no the first Noel,
• 3:25:57
  Speaker 5: second one, there's there's she don't care Paul, worry about him.
• 3:26:00
  Speaker 5: He's finally get the fan cam there in can'ton.
• 3:26:02
  Speaker 2: Taste Joel not Noel, and san Antonio writes.
• 3:26:06
  Speaker 7: You know him anymore? You haven't down here, Joel.
• 3:26:10
  Speaker 2: And san Antonio just a quick comment. I don't get
• 3:26:13
  Speaker 2: all the negative people calling tonight because we pick what
• 3:26:15
  Speaker 2: we needed. Perhaps this pick is a gamble, but you
• 3:26:18
  Speaker 2: know what also is a gamble trading down hoping that
• 3:26:21
  Speaker 2: some other guy you want is there. How's that worked out?
• 3:26:24
  Speaker 2: For the past few seasons, Campbell has been a left
• 3:26:26
  Speaker 2: tackle all throughout. He knows the position. Obviously, haven't even
• 3:26:30
  Speaker 2: seen him on the team, and y'all are already switching
• 3:26:32
  Speaker 2: him inside. Calm down, y'all are being hysterical and a
• 3:26:36
  Speaker 2: bit of a listener on listener crime the la guy, dude,
• 3:26:40
  Speaker 2: every time you try to explain to defend your comments,
• 3:26:42
  Speaker 2: you're just digging a deeper hole. Put down the shovel
• 3:26:45
  Speaker 2: and stop explaining or justifying your positions. We already don't
• 3:26:49
  Speaker 2: like you and love you at the same time. No,
• 3:26:54
  Speaker 2: he says, we like you in love, you.
• 3:26:57
  Speaker 6: Don't even think of trading going on. The Falcons are
• 3:26:59
  Speaker 6: now on the clock at twenty six, So they made
• 3:27:01
  Speaker 6: a significant trade.
• 3:27:02
  Speaker 5: Up here to get back on Sure, wow, who could
• 3:27:07
  Speaker 5: that be?
• 3:27:07
  Speaker 6: For the Falcon's next pick is forty six, so this
• 3:27:13
  Speaker 6: is a pretty significant move here, forty six to twenty six,
• 3:27:19
  Speaker 6: twenty picks.
• 3:27:20
  Speaker 5: Mike Green would could that be possible?
• 3:27:24
  Speaker 6: Could be possible?
• 3:27:25
  Speaker 2: Jeremiah says, I can't believe us winning against the Bills
• 3:27:29
  Speaker 2: cost us a haul of picks in such a weak class.
• 3:27:31
  Speaker 2: Sadly everyone was wrong about being stuck at number one
• 3:27:34
  Speaker 2: was a bad thing. However, can't complain about the past,
• 3:27:37
  Speaker 2: and I'm hyped for Will Campbell.
• 3:27:39
  Speaker 6: Not everybody was wrong about that.
• 3:27:41
  Speaker 7: Appreciate you moving on.
• 3:27:42
  Speaker 5: I also giants, they did add little Jordan Humphrey, he
• 3:27:46
  Speaker 5: made he made the graphic as issues.
• 3:27:50
  Speaker 7: I think they could have made a trade if they
• 3:27:52
  Speaker 7: had the number one pick, But like, I don't necessarily
• 3:27:55
  Speaker 7: know what. Like I liked the Cleveland trade, but I
• 3:27:58
  Speaker 7: don't necessarily think that that was like highway robbery or
• 3:28:01
  Speaker 7: anything you like, I don't know, I don't know people
• 3:28:06
  Speaker 7: would people have been clamoring to get up to get
• 3:28:10
  Speaker 7: cam Wood.
• 3:28:11
  Speaker 5: That's what I was just thinking.
• 3:28:12
  Speaker 7: Now, maybe like you know, you could tell us you
• 3:28:15
  Speaker 7: could have gotten up to get the Evan Lazar Travis
• 3:28:18
  Speaker 7: Hunter package. Yeah, but I don't know.
• 3:28:20
  Speaker 6: I don't know if clamoring is the right word. But
• 3:28:24
  Speaker 6: I still think you would have gotten something for the pick.
• 3:28:26
  Speaker 7: You absolutely would have gotten something.
• 3:28:28
  Speaker 6: I don't think you're going to get an RG three
• 3:28:30
  Speaker 6: level you know packages, or the Bryce Young package or
• 3:28:33
  Speaker 6: anything that crazy, but I think you still would have
• 3:28:36
  Speaker 6: gotten a sizeable package to move off the pick.
• 3:28:41
  Speaker 7: I agree. So if you're Joe Shane and Brian Dable,
• 3:28:47
  Speaker 7: like this is probably the best of both worlds. You
• 3:28:50
  Speaker 7: were able to take the player who can help you immediately.
• 3:28:54
  Speaker 7: You got two veterans in that, you know, holding down
• 3:28:57
  Speaker 7: the fort. You have to hope that they play decent
• 3:29:00
  Speaker 7: enough that you can win a couple of games to
• 3:29:01
  Speaker 7: stick around. And you have a developmental guy who's not
• 3:29:04
  Speaker 7: probably going to be asked to play right away, but
• 3:29:06
  Speaker 7: you have that, you know, to start. Hey, mister Marra,
• 3:29:10
  Speaker 7: this is our guy. We just he's not quite ready yet.
• 3:29:14
  Speaker 5: Table getting them.
• 3:29:15
  Speaker 7: There is that any chance that they saved their jobs?
• 3:29:18
  Speaker 5: Well maybe a little. I mean, I look how you
• 3:29:19
  Speaker 5: laid it out, like how you laid it out. I just, uh,
• 3:29:22
  Speaker 5: I don't know, I get I get. I get a
• 3:29:24
  Speaker 5: vibe from Jackson Darth. It's just I don't know, he
• 3:29:26
  Speaker 5: seems a little hair Zach Wilson to me.
• 3:29:28
  Speaker 7: I don't know. There's a lot going on there those
• 3:29:30
  Speaker 7: whole miss guys.
• 3:29:32
  Speaker 6: But but this is my whole point to keep going
• 3:29:34
  Speaker 6: back to trashing the Browns. But like that that this
• 3:29:37
  Speaker 6: is my whole point with the whole thing about the Browns.
• 3:29:39
  Speaker 2: So how is the Giants war room situation? Looks like
• 3:29:42
  Speaker 2: they're at the counter of a McDonald's waiting to water, Like,
• 3:29:47
  Speaker 2: what are they doing?
• 3:29:48
  Speaker 5: Look like that, guys, the friar laders broken. It's just
• 3:29:50
  Speaker 5: gonna be a few minutes ago.
• 3:29:53
  Speaker 7: That you forget about the Sunday that ain't working.
• 3:29:55
  Speaker 6: I was gonna say the ice cream machine is the
• 3:29:57
  Speaker 6: one that's broken.
• 3:30:00
  Speaker 5: No mcflurry.
• 3:30:01
  Speaker 7: Now there's a quarterback room.
• 3:30:03
  Speaker 6: Wow, looks good.
• 3:30:05
  Speaker 2: That is that is quite quite the room? Oh my god,
• 3:30:08
  Speaker 2: I doubt to Tommy Dona and that's.
• 3:30:10
  Speaker 6: The that's the I'd rather be the Giants and the Browns.
• 3:30:13
  Speaker 7: Tommy Colors, Okay, Jamis James, everybody, And we've officially reached
• 3:30:21
  Speaker 7: that time of the night.
• 3:30:22
  Speaker 2: Hey, Jason and Chiba writing and just check it in
• 3:30:24
  Speaker 2: from Japan. Thanks as always for the great draft coverage.
• 3:30:27
  Speaker 2: Great to be able to listen live. I tried to call,
• 3:30:29
  Speaker 2: but my phone plan for whatever reason, wouldn't connect me.
• 3:30:32
  Speaker 2: As always, less of me, more of you, Jason and Chiba,
• 3:30:35
  Speaker 2: well and Kanagawa today.
• 3:30:37
  Speaker 7: Good to hear from you, Jason. We haven't heard one
• 3:30:39
  Speaker 7: of the Chiba one of the originals.
• 3:30:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I love when they pop up up to
• 3:30:43
  Speaker 5: you guys, but it seems like guys disappear and then
• 3:30:45
  Speaker 5: all of a sudden you're like, oh, yeah, we haven't
• 3:30:47
  Speaker 5: heard from that guy in a few years.
• 3:30:48
  Speaker 6: And the Falcons made a huge trade, so they traded
• 3:30:52
  Speaker 6: their twenty twenty six first round pick to move up
• 3:30:56
  Speaker 6: twenty spots with the Rams. So it's the Falcons getting
• 3:31:01
  Speaker 6: the twenty sixth pick in a third round pick this
• 3:31:03
  Speaker 6: year and the Rams getting forty six at twenty twenty
• 3:31:07
  Speaker 6: sixth first and the seventh round this year. So they
• 3:31:09
  Speaker 6: gave up a future first round pick.
• 3:31:10
  Speaker 2: For who we do not know you.
• 3:31:13
  Speaker 6: So it's not the Rams, right, No, they have Pennix.
• 3:31:16
  Speaker 5: Rams sucking draft picks.
• 3:31:18
  Speaker 2: Wonder who they would have could be that value.
• 3:31:22
  Speaker 6: I don't know. The Falcons took James Pierce, the edge
• 3:31:28
  Speaker 6: rusher from Tennessee who a lot of people coming into
• 3:31:31
  Speaker 6: this draft process thought that he was the best edge
• 3:31:34
  Speaker 6: rusher in the class. Now he had a down year
• 3:31:37
  Speaker 6: and he's also kind of a head case. So we're
• 3:31:39
  Speaker 6: here at twenty six. But he's a Barth guy.
• 3:31:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, guy, I thought Barth loved James Pears. He's one.
• 3:31:47
  Speaker 6: He's one of those guys that you know, Barth like
• 3:31:49
  Speaker 6: he's ahead of the curve on all these guys. So
• 3:31:51
  Speaker 6: like going into the college football season last.
• 3:31:53
  Speaker 7: Year, you've ever said about Bart, You're right.
• 3:31:56
  Speaker 6: Going into the college football season, like I said, Pierce
• 3:31:59
  Speaker 6: was considered to top five top ten caliber players. So
• 3:32:02
  Speaker 6: he probably told me about James Pierce like last August
• 3:32:05
  Speaker 6: and was like, this is one of the guys in
• 3:32:08
  Speaker 6: this year's draft.
• 3:32:08
  Speaker 5: And you're like a watch list for us, like in
• 3:32:11
  Speaker 5: like you know, like late August. Just give me a
• 3:32:14
  Speaker 5: list of guys and be like, here're the guys.
• 3:32:15
  Speaker 6: Just just because I can't, like I have to make
• 3:32:17
  Speaker 6: fun of him a little bit. One of the most
• 3:32:18
  Speaker 6: annoying things that he does is he'll search our texts
• 3:32:22
  Speaker 6: and like pull up like you know, oh, I mentioned
• 3:32:25
  Speaker 6: this guy two years ago, Like you know, I got
• 3:32:27
  Speaker 6: that would annoy me, right, and I'm like cool, dude,
• 3:32:30
  Speaker 6: like cool, like you were on, don't.
• 3:32:32
  Speaker 7: I don't need to have the stupid things that I
• 3:32:34
  Speaker 7: said one day that but you know, thrown back in
• 3:32:36
  Speaker 7: my face. Yeah.
• 3:32:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he was like I tried to tell you about
• 3:32:39
  Speaker 6: this guy six months ago, Like all right, Bart, thanks.
• 3:32:42
  Speaker 5: It is interesting though with Peers because I kind of
• 3:32:44
  Speaker 5: grouped him with Green a little bit together as edge
• 3:32:46
  Speaker 5: guys with maybe some off the field questions.
• 3:32:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 3:32:48
  Speaker 7: That's funny to me though, that you would make that
• 3:32:51
  Speaker 7: kind of a trick because that's a significant trade, huge
• 3:32:53
  Speaker 7: trade to move up that far. Yeah, I mean, I
• 3:32:57
  Speaker 7: don't think they gave up too much to move up
• 3:32:58
  Speaker 7: that far, but like it, it's just such a weird
• 3:33:00
  Speaker 7: guy to leave him to target like that.
• 3:33:02
  Speaker 5: Even James Pierce can't believe it.
• 3:33:04
  Speaker 6: He was like, what really, Yeah, I mean if this
• 3:33:06
  Speaker 6: was like the Browns coming up to.
• 3:33:09
  Speaker 7: Draft, they know for sure he wouldn't be available if
• 3:33:11
  Speaker 7: they just sat tight, right, Well, twenty pix is a while, no,
• 3:33:15
  Speaker 7: I know, but like I mean, I guess you have
• 3:33:17
  Speaker 7: good intel.
• 3:33:18
  Speaker 5: They probably wait a few I mean, they must thought
• 3:33:20
  Speaker 5: he's he's going like, yeah.
• 3:33:21
  Speaker 7: They must have good intel to know that, you know,
• 3:33:23
  Speaker 7: like so and so is going to take him if
• 3:33:24
  Speaker 7: we don't move up.
• 3:33:25
  Speaker 5: Is he a Baltimore kind of guy?
• 3:33:26
  Speaker 7: It seems like a little bit Baltimore. There is one
• 3:33:30
  Speaker 7: of those guys. I think they're gonna they look like
• 3:33:32
  Speaker 7: they shop in a way. Yeah, I think so. Maybe
• 3:33:35
  Speaker 7: they're looking to upgrade.
• 3:33:36
  Speaker 6: I think, you know, with James Pierce, he was one
• 3:33:39
  Speaker 6: of one of the stories that you heard which is
• 3:33:41
  Speaker 6: so like draft right, apparently like he would like stand
• 3:33:45
  Speaker 6: alone on the sideline a lot, like just like a
• 3:33:48
  Speaker 6: man on an island, like away from the whole rest
• 3:33:50
  Speaker 6: of the defense and the whole rest of the team,
• 3:33:52
  Speaker 6: and like it's a.
• 3:33:53
  Speaker 7: Sneaky one of those positions.
• 3:33:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And like the scouts that would you know, the
• 3:33:57
  Speaker 6: area of scouts and stuff that were actually go to
• 3:33:59
  Speaker 6: the game and boots on the ground with like write
• 3:34:02
  Speaker 6: in their reports like he's kind of a loner, like
• 3:34:04
  Speaker 6: you know, he kind of you know, stands by himself
• 3:34:06
  Speaker 6: all this. It's like they see the type of stuff
• 3:34:08
  Speaker 6: that turns teams off.
• 3:34:09
  Speaker 7: And I didn't read something about the falcons. I want
• 3:34:11
  Speaker 7: to say schefter on Monday when he had that like
• 3:34:13
  Speaker 7: grab bag of all draft tidbits. The Falcons pass rush
• 3:34:18
  Speaker 7: has been absolutely abysmal for like ten years. They haven't
• 3:34:22
  Speaker 7: had a guy with like more than six sacks in
• 3:34:24
  Speaker 7: the season and like forever. And you know, they doubled
• 3:34:27
  Speaker 7: up on edge guys in the first round. They got
• 3:34:29
  Speaker 7: Jalen Walker too with Pierce, so clearly they thought that
• 3:34:33
  Speaker 7: was a major, major need and they that's a lot
• 3:34:36
  Speaker 7: to give up to.
• 3:34:37
  Speaker 5: Get a guy like that in my in my view, yeah,
• 3:34:40
  Speaker 5: I mean, they probably feel like they've got Bijon, they've
• 3:34:42
  Speaker 5: got Pennix in place, you know, Drake London on the
• 3:34:45
  Speaker 5: outside that they've got the pieces on offense for the
• 3:34:48
  Speaker 5: most part, but felt like the.
• 3:34:49
  Speaker 7: Penny can play, They certainly have the pieces on offense. Yeah,
• 3:34:52
  Speaker 7: and if their coaches can coach, that's another good point.
• 3:34:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, big.
• 3:34:56
  Speaker 2: If Tim in California on the hotline, what's up?
• 3:34:59
  Speaker 7: Tim?
• 3:35:01
  Speaker 28: I had to call back in I got cut off
• 3:35:04
  Speaker 28: there at the end of the first call. I traded
• 3:35:07
  Speaker 28: back into ask this question for y'all with our number two.
• 3:35:14
  Speaker 28: Should we if Josh Simmons is there or Luthor Burden's there,
• 3:35:19
  Speaker 28: who would you rather take.
• 3:35:20
  Speaker 7: Luther Burn Luther Burdens, Yeah.
• 3:35:24
  Speaker 2: Would you rather take.
• 3:35:28
  Speaker 28: I'm kind of thinking that if he sits for a
• 3:35:31
  Speaker 28: year and then you develop them, and Will Campbell doesn't
• 3:35:36
  Speaker 28: work out at left tackle, then you will inside it
• 3:35:39
  Speaker 28: and then you have your left tackle. Or if Will
• 3:35:42
  Speaker 28: Campbell does work out, then you trade them for something
• 3:35:45
  Speaker 28: for next year. But again, it doesn't help our immediate needs.
• 3:35:48
  Speaker 28: So I'm kind of leaning towards Luthor Burden as well.
• 3:35:51
  Speaker 28: But I know you've had some character issues, so kind
• 3:35:55
  Speaker 28: of worried about that.
• 3:35:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, if you want to do that sort of thing
• 3:35:58
  Speaker 6: with like a Charles Granter and the Belton or one
• 3:36:00
  Speaker 6: of these developmental tackles, and you want to just head
• 3:36:03
  Speaker 6: your bets a little bit by drafting one of those
• 3:36:05
  Speaker 6: guys in the third or fourth round, I'm all for that.
• 3:36:08
  Speaker 6: I don't think you can draft two guys.
• 3:36:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and I don't. I mean, Mike Reached threw that
• 3:36:13
  Speaker 7: out there earlier this week about Simmons. You know, if
• 3:36:16
  Speaker 7: you took him and then it's kind of kind of
• 3:36:19
  Speaker 7: insurance you have two tackles, But I would worry that
• 3:36:21
  Speaker 7: one of them wouldn't have the ability to play the
• 3:36:24
  Speaker 7: right side if you needed them to you know, let's say,
• 3:36:28
  Speaker 7: you know, because I don't like the idea of I'm
• 3:36:30
  Speaker 7: going to take Simmons in case Campbell doesn't work.
• 3:36:32
  Speaker 2: I don't want to.
• 3:36:33
  Speaker 7: I don't I don't want to continguency. I want to
• 3:36:35
  Speaker 7: be all in, you know, and that that it will
• 3:36:38
  Speaker 7: work him at left tackle. So I don't want to
• 3:36:41
  Speaker 7: be in a situation where if everything goes the way
• 3:36:43
  Speaker 7: I wanted to go, now I have a dilemma. I
• 3:36:45
  Speaker 7: got to move one of them, either position wise or
• 3:36:48
  Speaker 7: to another team. I don't want to do that.
• 3:36:50
  Speaker 2: No, Okay, Jr. From Florida's back on the line. What's up, Jr?
• 3:36:56
  Speaker 7: Multiple callers.
• 3:36:57
  Speaker 18: Yeah, Hey, I got cut off from you guys last time,
• 3:37:00
  Speaker 18: end of my call. So I figured I'd just give
• 3:37:01
  Speaker 18: you guys a call back at this point. Okay, how
• 3:37:06
  Speaker 18: we were talking about before I had got cut off,
• 3:37:09
  Speaker 18: you know, about the game breakers and this and that.
• 3:37:12
  Speaker 2: Oh so this is are you the guy from fort
• 3:37:14
  Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no, okay.
• 3:37:20
  Speaker 18: Anyway, I think at this point I would be thinking,
• 3:37:27
  Speaker 18: wouldn't you want to try to move up for somebody
• 3:37:29
  Speaker 18: like Trey Yon Henderson with him still on the board,
• 3:37:33
  Speaker 18: and if you like I know we we need a
• 3:37:36
  Speaker 18: wide receiver, but I'm thinking I would go heavy on
• 3:37:40
  Speaker 18: offense in the beginning of this draft because I think
• 3:37:42
  Speaker 18: the defense is going to stand up with what we
• 3:37:44
  Speaker 18: got and they're gonna be They're gonna be productive.
• 3:37:47
  Speaker 2: Well here's the thing, j are if if if you
• 3:37:49
  Speaker 2: you know, listen, I'm not ruling out running back, but
• 3:37:51
  Speaker 2: you can stay where you are and get a pretty
• 3:37:54
  Speaker 2: good running back in this draft. You don't need to
• 3:37:56
  Speaker 2: move up.
• 3:37:59
  Speaker 18: You think any of them are going to be Like
• 3:38:01
  Speaker 18: Traveon Henderson.
• 3:38:02
  Speaker 28: He just for me.
• 3:38:03
  Speaker 18: He does it all, you know what I mean. He's
• 3:38:06
  Speaker 18: just I love his past catching ability and we all
• 3:38:09
  Speaker 18: know that McDaniel he loves. He loves the back that
• 3:38:12
  Speaker 18: can catch the ball.
• 3:38:13
  Speaker 7: You know, we think he'd be available at thirty eight block.
• 3:38:17
  Speaker 7: Huh do you think he might be available at thirty eight?
• 3:38:21
  Speaker 18: You want to take that chance?
• 3:38:23
  Speaker 7: Sure?
• 3:38:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he would. I love Traveon Henderson. He was one
• 3:38:27
  Speaker 6: of those players that I didn't really feel like it
• 3:38:31
  Speaker 6: made sense for the Patriots, but he's so damn good.
• 3:38:34
  Speaker 6: I couldn't keep him off the big board.
• 3:38:35
  Speaker 7: I was I have to have this do You'm not
• 3:38:37
  Speaker 7: telling him I don't like the player I'm saying, I
• 3:38:39
  Speaker 7: think he's I think he could be available at thirty eight.
• 3:38:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's, Uh, he's Jamior Gibbs, light like he's He's
• 3:38:44
  Speaker 6: got that kind of skill set, that kind of game
• 3:38:46
  Speaker 6: breaking speed if you will, that has that type of gear,
• 3:38:50
  Speaker 6: no doubt about it. I mean, he's an awesome back
• 3:38:52
  Speaker 6: to watch and he's explosive as hell. But I don't
• 3:38:55
  Speaker 6: know if he needs trade up. I mean, the Baltimore
• 3:38:58
  Speaker 6: is about to take Malchi, Starks are not going to
• 3:39:00
  Speaker 6: take a running back. Detroit is probably not going to
• 3:39:02
  Speaker 6: take a running back.
• 3:39:03
  Speaker 7: You know, Washington, I guess could you have to worry
• 3:39:06
  Speaker 7: about teams jumping up, you know, in front of you.
• 3:39:09
  Speaker 6: But Houston, I would say, is for one of those
• 3:39:12
  Speaker 6: tackles you know they're gonna they're gonna take at the
• 3:39:15
  Speaker 6: top of the second round. You know, Look, I don't
• 3:39:17
  Speaker 6: know if he'll make it all the way to thirty eight.
• 3:39:19
  Speaker 6: If he's there at thirty eight and they picked him,
• 3:39:21
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't be mad at all.
• 3:39:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's surprising that Houston not just thinking about that
• 3:39:25
  Speaker 7: because they do have that need to fill tunsil spot. Yeah,
• 3:39:29
  Speaker 7: and they decided to trade down yeah, so they must
• 3:39:32
  Speaker 7: not love the Connorley Grocery Simmons.
• 3:39:35
  Speaker 6: Well, Kansas City is gonna probably you would think, would
• 3:39:38
  Speaker 6: take one of those those tackles. Right, they're at thirty one,
• 3:39:42
  Speaker 6: and then Houston will will have their one of the three,
• 3:39:46
  Speaker 6: right like they'll they'll be able to pick one of
• 3:39:47
  Speaker 6: the three at the top of the second now right, yep,
• 3:39:51
  Speaker 6: they're right there at uh at thirty four, so that
• 3:39:53
  Speaker 6: they'll be able to pick. They'll they'll get one of
• 3:39:56
  Speaker 6: those guys at that spot.
• 3:40:00
  Speaker 2: Max in Mexico City writes in at podcasts at Patriots
• 3:40:03
  Speaker 2: dot Com. He says he's written in four drafts in
• 3:40:06
  Speaker 2: a row and looking forward to many more. First off,
• 3:40:09
  Speaker 2: Will Campbell's attitude is contagious and truly patriot, like Matthew
• 3:40:13
  Speaker 2: Slater would be proud. Next the question, since we're looking
• 3:40:16
  Speaker 2: to completely renovate our wide receiver room, we need to
• 3:40:20
  Speaker 2: take some trash out. If you had to release a
• 3:40:22
  Speaker 2: wide receiver, who would it be and.
• 3:40:24
  Speaker 7: Why I had to release a wide receipt.
• 3:40:27
  Speaker 2: I released one, just release yeah anything.
• 3:40:31
  Speaker 7: Jon Baker would be the one I would too if
• 3:40:35
  Speaker 7: I had to, So.
• 3:40:37
  Speaker 5: A lot of people who would cry out at that
• 3:40:39
  Speaker 5: and be like what I would.
• 3:40:41
  Speaker 7: Now, I wouldn't want to because I would want to
• 3:40:43
  Speaker 7: see him go through the whole offseason and see if
• 3:40:45
  Speaker 7: he's matured and there's anything there. I like, I believe
• 3:40:49
  Speaker 7: in the ascending second year player much like you know, dude,
• 3:40:53
  Speaker 7: you are out this week when when Evan and I
• 3:40:56
  Speaker 7: talked about Adam Schefter putting case Sean Boody on his
• 3:41:00
  Speaker 7: list of young players that teams might be looking to
• 3:41:05
  Speaker 7: move on from. And I am not a huge Kishan
• 3:41:08
  Speaker 7: Boody guy by any means, but I thought it was odd. Yeah,
• 3:41:10
  Speaker 7: like I do think that he had He showed some
• 3:41:13
  Speaker 7: signs of maturing last year, just the way we're talking
• 3:41:16
  Speaker 7: we hope to see from Javon Baker made some place
• 3:41:19
  Speaker 7: and that wasn't perfect. I think he had some comments
• 3:41:22
  Speaker 7: after games at times that I thought were odd, But
• 3:41:25
  Speaker 7: he made some plays, had some production. Why wouldn't you
• 3:41:27
  Speaker 7: roll the dice that he could build on that and
• 3:41:30
  Speaker 7: be even better in year three?
• 3:41:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 3:41:32
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean that's to me, Like I said before,
• 3:41:35
  Speaker 5: giving room to breathe to some of these young players.
• 3:41:37
  Speaker 5: Offensive lineman Kayden Wallace, Leyden Robinson, you know that the
• 3:41:41
  Speaker 5: book hasn't been closed on those guys yet, and I'm
• 3:41:43
  Speaker 5: still hopeful that you're going to get an unexpected return
• 3:41:47
  Speaker 5: from a place you didn't really expect to get it.
• 3:41:49
  Speaker 5: Maybe it's that left guard position with Layden Robinson, you know,
• 3:41:52
  Speaker 5: maybe it's even just Kayden Wallace being a serviceable swing
• 3:41:55
  Speaker 5: tackle backing up you know, the right side of the
• 3:41:58
  Speaker 5: line for this year and maybe, you know, maybe he
• 3:42:00
  Speaker 5: steps into a starting role coming down the line. But
• 3:42:03
  Speaker 5: it's just a balance trying to like not oversaturate a
• 3:42:06
  Speaker 5: position where you feel like, man, you got twelve receivers, now,
• 3:42:10
  Speaker 5: how would we ever gonna be able to tell?
• 3:42:11
  Speaker 14: Bet?
• 3:42:12
  Speaker 5: You know, between that and you know, other positions where,
• 3:42:15
  Speaker 5: like I mentioned running back, there's just not a lot
• 3:42:17
  Speaker 5: of depth there. There's not a lot of bodies. There's
• 3:42:19
  Speaker 5: easy to take one of these guys, slide him into
• 3:42:22
  Speaker 5: that group and say, this guy's gonna not only make
• 3:42:24
  Speaker 5: the team, but he's he's probably gonna contribute in a rotation.
• 3:42:26
  Speaker 6: Right now, Yeah, I admit I Kaishan Boody has kind
• 3:42:30
  Speaker 6: of won me over, like not saying that I think
• 3:42:32
  Speaker 6: he's gonna be a star, but I was totally not
• 3:42:35
  Speaker 6: sold on Kishan Boody being an NFL player like this
• 3:42:38
  Speaker 6: time last year.
• 3:42:39
  Speaker 7: I would agree, Yeah, I thought he was going to
• 3:42:41
  Speaker 7: get cut before, you know, heading into training camp, I
• 3:42:43
  Speaker 7: thought he was cut. I'm sure I had him up
• 3:42:45
  Speaker 7: with what six hundred yards or so, comeback player of
• 3:42:47
  Speaker 7: the year, come back from what most improved it. I
• 3:42:53
  Speaker 7: give you what you want, bro, I I.
• 3:42:56
  Speaker 6: Probably had him as a cut like late into training
• 3:42:59
  Speaker 6: camp last year times right, like on fifty three man
• 3:43:01
  Speaker 6: roster projections, and you know we've talked. We talked a
• 3:43:04
  Speaker 6: little bit about it on Tuesday. But if you're looking
• 3:43:07
  Speaker 6: for that X receiver to just kind of be a
• 3:43:09
  Speaker 6: sacrificial X receiver that's just going to run go routes
• 3:43:11
  Speaker 6: on the outside and clear out coverage and catch an
• 3:43:14
  Speaker 6: occasional you know, deep shot every once in a while
• 3:43:17
  Speaker 6: the game. Yeah, that's exactly Like, isn't that Keijon Booty?
• 3:43:21
  Speaker 6: Like you're not asking him to be.
• 3:43:22
  Speaker 7: The star in a while? You look up, but he's
• 3:43:24
  Speaker 7: three yards behind Derek Stingle right exactly.
• 3:43:27
  Speaker 6: And you know, if that's the role that that's going
• 3:43:29
  Speaker 6: to be, which is what it's bent historically with McDaniels, Like,
• 3:43:32
  Speaker 6: then do you really need to move on from that
• 3:43:35
  Speaker 6: and then draft another one that's just going to do
• 3:43:36
  Speaker 6: the same exact thing.
• 3:43:37
  Speaker 5: Like you already have such a great point, I feel
• 3:43:40
  Speaker 5: like this is something we should I'd love to get into,
• 3:43:42
  Speaker 5: like a more extensive conversation about because what you just
• 3:43:44
  Speaker 5: said about how Josh is, you know, like Jojo Lafel,
• 3:43:48
  Speaker 5: same thing, right, he was just Malcolm Mitchell outside guy,
• 3:43:52
  Speaker 5: go comebacks. That's pretty much it did that, you know?
• 3:43:56
  Speaker 5: And is that the right way to look at it,
• 3:43:57
  Speaker 5: because it feels like it's almost like a nothing position
• 3:44:00
  Speaker 5: where you're broadcasting what you want to do with that
• 3:44:02
  Speaker 5: player on the outside, where I think a lot of fans,
• 3:44:05
  Speaker 5: including the callers, would say, get them someone more dynamic
• 3:44:08
  Speaker 5: out there. Don't get somebody who's just out there to
• 3:44:10
  Speaker 5: do two things. Do somebody who's really going to move
• 3:44:12
  Speaker 5: the needle and affect the defense. And for too long
• 3:44:15
  Speaker 5: we've had you know, all these guys don't affect the defense,
• 3:44:17
  Speaker 5: they don't take the top off the defense. They're they're
• 3:44:19
  Speaker 5: all crowded the line of scrimmage and what Mike they're
• 3:44:21
  Speaker 5: they're hard, not hard to defend.
• 3:44:26
  Speaker 2: Mike and the OC thanks for the coverage tonight. Special
• 3:44:29
  Speaker 2: shout out to Alex for braving the drunken fans. I'll
• 3:44:32
  Speaker 2: be disappointed if we don't trade up for Burden. I
• 3:44:35
  Speaker 2: was disappointed last year when we didn't trade up for
• 3:44:37
  Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy. I hope we don't make the same mistake again.
• 3:44:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean we've said a lot of really
• 3:44:44
  Speaker 6: nice things about Luther Burden. I think it's a great
• 3:44:48
  Speaker 6: list litmus test of they drafted a guy at four
• 3:44:51
  Speaker 6: overall that you would say is a Rabel guy, you know,
• 3:44:54
  Speaker 6: the high character, the love of football, you know that
• 3:44:57
  Speaker 6: kind of stuff. Luther Burden would be the opposite by reports, right,
• 3:45:01
  Speaker 6: you know, in indications of what he's like, uh, kind
• 3:45:04
  Speaker 6: of a diva like would they take a player like that?
• 3:45:08
  Speaker 6: And I think that they probably should take eventually takes
• 3:45:11
  Speaker 6: some risk, right and and take on a play.
• 3:45:14
  Speaker 7: I think you'd have to trade though, because I don't
• 3:45:15
  Speaker 7: think Detroit necessarily, but Washington could be in, yeah, in
• 3:45:20
  Speaker 7: the market for a receiver.
• 3:45:22
  Speaker 6: So Baltimore took Malachi Starks. We kind of glossed over
• 3:45:25
  Speaker 6: that because it's not really relevant, but that the Baltimore
• 3:45:28
  Speaker 6: Ravens like annoy me how good they are at this,
• 3:45:31
  Speaker 6: Like it just kind of pisses me, somebody stud just
• 3:45:35
  Speaker 6: falls into their lap and they just sit there and
• 3:45:37
  Speaker 6: they do they do the smart they do the smart thing.
• 3:45:40
  Speaker 6: They don't reach on some random player. They're just like, oh, yeah,
• 3:45:43
  Speaker 6: Malachi's is here. We're just gonna take this guy stud.
• 3:45:47
  Speaker 7: Like Hamilton and Malachi Starks. I mean, it's just annoying.
• 3:45:50
  Speaker 7: I have a crush on Kyle Hamilton. That's longest that
• 3:45:53
  Speaker 7: which terrific player.
• 3:45:54
  Speaker 6: Them in Philadelphia. You know, like there's there's like the
• 3:45:58
  Speaker 6: some stuff out there about Williams, about Philly and Howie
• 3:46:04
  Speaker 6: Roseman that teams like won't even pick up the phone
• 3:46:07
  Speaker 6: to deal with the Howie Roseman because they're so worried
• 3:46:08
  Speaker 6: they're gonna get swindled by Howie Roseman. But they're like
• 3:46:11
  Speaker 6: afraid that, Like, well, if you want, I'm like what
• 3:46:14
  Speaker 6: it was, like, what right?
• 3:46:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 3:46:17
  Speaker 5: And I feel the same way about Bill probably had
• 3:46:18
  Speaker 5: a period of time with that too, you know in
• 3:46:20
  Speaker 5: the mid two thousands where teams were just like, oh God,
• 3:46:22
  Speaker 5: he wants to take one of our guys.
• 3:46:23
  Speaker 7: Out of the Yeah, it never showed like they I know,
• 3:46:26
  Speaker 7: they kept giving Randy Moss for but they traded with
• 3:46:29
  Speaker 7: him constantly, So I don't think people ever thought that
• 3:46:31
  Speaker 7: they lost the trades because they kept trading with them.
• 3:46:34
  Speaker 2: Just be a little wary.
• 3:46:34
  Speaker 7: You know that guy wants one of your players.
• 3:46:36
  Speaker 2: Well those are low, late round picks, but yeah, they
• 3:46:40
  Speaker 2: they had. He had a string of trades with Philly.
• 3:46:41
  Speaker 2: How many years was it?
• 3:46:42
  Speaker 7: I forget, Oh, I didn't mean yes with Philly, but yeah,
• 3:46:46
  Speaker 7: you're right, he had a thing with Andy Reid.
• 3:46:48
  Speaker 5: Right, So just a little light connection with the Patriots here,
• 3:46:51
  Speaker 5: you know, with Terrell Williams leaving Detroit as the defensive
• 3:46:54
  Speaker 5: line coach and now you know Detroit obviously had a
• 3:46:56
  Speaker 5: bunch of defensive injuries last year, couldn't really stick hanging
• 3:47:00
  Speaker 5: there towards the end of the season. But you know,
• 3:47:02
  Speaker 5: going and getting Williams from Ohio State, big interior presence, Uh,
• 3:47:06
  Speaker 5: they'll probably get Austin or Austin What am I saying?
• 3:47:09
  Speaker 5: The edge guy that broke his leg. That was disgusting
• 3:47:11
  Speaker 5: agents Sorry, Aiden Hutches, thank you. He's fully helped a
• 3:47:15
  Speaker 5: little bit of a little bit of a rebuild there.
• 3:47:17
  Speaker 5: They're they're focused on defensive side of the ball.
• 3:47:19
  Speaker 7: That's I mean, I don't know how great Williams is,
• 3:47:21
  Speaker 7: but that's certainly the area that they should be looking at.
• 3:47:24
  Speaker 7: They need to show up the defense and building the
• 3:47:27
  Speaker 7: trenches up front, in particular.
• 3:47:29
  Speaker 2: Jonathan's in Miami Jonathan before the goo, Hey, guys, how
• 3:47:34
  Speaker 2: y'all going?
• 3:47:34
  Speaker 36: All right?
• 3:47:36
  Speaker 42: I had a little quick silly comments for you guys.
• 3:47:40
  Speaker 42: Do you guys know how long John Barron has owned
• 3:47:42
  Speaker 42: the Giants?
• 3:47:43
  Speaker 7: How long the Mara family is on the Giants for
• 3:47:47
  Speaker 7: a long time?
• 3:47:49
  Speaker 42: Okay, So I wanted to say, you guys remember the
• 3:47:51
  Speaker 42: story that happened to be me Brian and the Giants
• 3:47:55
  Speaker 42: back when he was getting drafted. No, No, as far
• 3:48:00
  Speaker 42: as Prime telling them that he's not going to be
• 3:48:04
  Speaker 42: there when they're picking, even talking.
• 3:48:06
  Speaker 7: To them, who said, yeah, I don't know the story.
• 3:48:12
  Speaker 42: Oh Prime said that thunders Prime thunders.
• 3:48:16
  Speaker 7: No, No, I understand what you're saying. I don't know.
• 3:48:18
  Speaker 7: I'm not familiar with the story. So deone Sanders got
• 3:48:21
  Speaker 7: drafted one like the late eighties, and he wouldn't meet
• 3:48:27
  Speaker 7: with the Giants because he was going to be picked
• 3:48:30
  Speaker 7: before the Giants picked. That happens a lot. Abdual Carver
• 3:48:35
  Speaker 7: did that this year.
• 3:48:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he only went there first.
• 3:48:37
  Speaker 7: Four teams because he said he wasn't gonna be going
• 3:48:39
  Speaker 7: any anymore.
• 3:48:41
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 3:48:42
  Speaker 42: My Still the comment is, do you think that has
• 3:48:44
  Speaker 42: anything to do with what the Giants are doing to.
• 3:48:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, I don't.
• 3:48:52
  Speaker 7: They wouldn't. They wouldn't have met with Sanders if it did.
• 3:48:54
  Speaker 7: They met with Sanders extensively.
• 3:48:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I hear, good connection. Yeah, I think that. You know,
• 3:49:01
  Speaker 6: there is a lot of reporting that came out that
• 3:49:04
  Speaker 6: the scenes of the Father they really like Jackson Dart.
• 3:49:06
  Speaker 6: Like I think one of the reports is that like
• 3:49:08
  Speaker 6: Brian Dable was like kind of infatuated by Jackson Dart.
• 3:49:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah, now I would. I would have said, you know,
• 3:49:14
  Speaker 7: if if someone took Shudeah Sanders like two picks later,
• 3:49:18
  Speaker 7: thanks John, Chinese didn't want him at three, I'm jumping up.
• 3:49:21
  Speaker 7: You know, Pittsburgh just jumped up sixteen spots to get
• 3:49:24
  Speaker 7: to four or five or whatever and took him, then
• 3:49:26
  Speaker 7: I would say, oh, maybe maybe there was something to that.
• 3:49:29
  Speaker 7: But he's still available, yep. And he's not going to Washington,
• 3:49:32
  Speaker 7: he's not going to Buffalo, and he's not going to
• 3:49:34
  Speaker 7: Kansas City. So borrowing a trade or the barring.
• 3:49:37
  Speaker 6: A trade, Yeah, Cleveland with the first pick in the
• 3:49:42
  Speaker 6: second round makes a lot of sense.
• 3:49:44
  Speaker 2: You know, he went first.
• 3:49:46
  Speaker 5: Overall on day two.
• 3:49:48
  Speaker 7: I mean, you got to you gotta sweat out if
• 3:49:51
  Speaker 7: anyone's gonna move up.
• 3:49:53
  Speaker 2: But yep, Mel's and Sacramento.
• 3:49:57
  Speaker 7: Hey, Mel Sacktown, Yeah, I'm here. Thanks.
• 3:50:04
  Speaker 14: I think you guys are doing the great jobs covering
• 3:50:06
  Speaker 14: the draft. Me too, super excited about our fourths pick.
• 3:50:11
  Speaker 14: I think he's going to be a stud. However, I
• 3:50:14
  Speaker 14: do think, you know, we do need some dynamic players
• 3:50:17
  Speaker 14: to the point of the guy who called earlier and
• 3:50:20
  Speaker 14: Dante would have been sort of an out of the
• 3:50:22
  Speaker 14: box pick. So where do you see them going in
• 3:50:26
  Speaker 14: the second round? Try to achieve that getting someone that's dynamic.
• 3:50:32
  Speaker 14: Is are there any available players that you think they
• 3:50:34
  Speaker 14: can go to meet that status a game breaking type player?
• 3:50:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah? Absolutely. I mean I'll have best available at the
• 3:50:44
  Speaker 6: end of the night. You know, for day two, I
• 3:50:47
  Speaker 6: could say Luther Burden right now and I'll go to
• 3:50:49
  Speaker 6: Washington right so I would like to see at the
• 3:50:51
  Speaker 6: end of the night. But you know, Burden's obviously when
• 3:50:54
  Speaker 6: we've talked a lot about tonight, Knowle's another one we've
• 3:50:56
  Speaker 6: talked a lot about tonight. You know, Kyle Williams from
• 3:50:59
  Speaker 6: Washington States, another four to four you know, speed type
• 3:51:02
  Speaker 6: of receiver that's a game breaker. Caller called in about
• 3:51:05
  Speaker 6: Trevon Henderson Quinn Shawn Jukins, you know, his teammate out
• 3:51:08
  Speaker 6: of Ohio State. Two backs with a really great explosiveness
• 3:51:12
  Speaker 6: and great speed as well, big playability. Uh, Dylan Samson
• 3:51:16
  Speaker 6: from Tennessee. Like, there's there's explosive guys, there's playmakers on
• 3:51:20
  Speaker 6: offense still available. I'm not at all like worried that
• 3:51:25
  Speaker 6: they've missed the boat on that at all.
• 3:51:28
  Speaker 2: One of the Scataboo's still on the board.
• 3:51:30
  Speaker 6: Scatta, we might be there at one of six.
• 3:51:33
  Speaker 7: Josh Connolly, All right, thanks, thanks for the call.
• 3:51:40
  Speaker 2: Sayn went to the.
• 3:51:41
  Speaker 7: Conny went to the commanders, so that that bumps Brandon
• 3:51:45
  Speaker 7: Coleman officially inside, I guess go inside.
• 3:51:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, so ten they trade for Tunzel right.
• 3:51:52
  Speaker 7: Uns and and Connory. You know, there's no need to
• 3:51:55
  Speaker 7: even think about it.
• 3:51:56
  Speaker 6: So I would assume that they're going to try to
• 3:51:58
  Speaker 6: play connorly at right tackle, and it was not pretty
• 3:52:01
  Speaker 6: at the Senior Bowl with him at right tackle. Like
• 3:52:03
  Speaker 6: that's the clip that went around with Mike Green running
• 3:52:05
  Speaker 6: them over. Is him playing right tackle like which everybody
• 3:52:08
  Speaker 6: kind of said, well, it's not his position. He plays
• 3:52:11
  Speaker 6: left tackle, so he's playing out a position.
• 3:52:13
  Speaker 7: They also could look at as you know, what are
• 3:52:16
  Speaker 7: you gonna get another? You may get a year or.
• 3:52:17
  Speaker 6: Two of them, and maybe he plays right to start
• 3:52:20
  Speaker 6: and then flips back over once tons.
• 3:52:22
  Speaker 5: Moves has been left the whole time as he's tackle.
• 3:52:27
  Speaker 2: Bills around the clock. Who are the Bills interested?
• 3:52:30
  Speaker 6: Their fans really wanted them to take interior defensive line.
• 3:52:35
  Speaker 5: They're funny, They're dying. These are my people.
• 3:52:40
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you so funny.
• 3:52:43
  Speaker 6: I was actually joking with a couple of them. Uh,
• 3:52:45
  Speaker 6: I'm friends with being like interior defensive line like that.
• 3:52:49
  Speaker 6: Like they're all like like we're pounding the table for
• 3:52:51
  Speaker 6: offensive line. They're we need stuff, we need.
• 3:52:55
  Speaker 7: Now all the Bills. Yeah, just let Josh Allen you know,
• 3:53:01
  Speaker 7: have Khalil Shakir and Luther Burden just like skitter scatting
• 3:53:05
  Speaker 7: around all over the place.
• 3:53:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I hear you. I think it's funny, you know,
• 3:53:10
  Speaker 6: like that that that's what they're clamoring for. But just
• 3:53:13
  Speaker 6: in general, like in all seriously like defense, like and
• 3:53:16
  Speaker 6: I think their defense.
• 3:53:18
  Speaker 7: Defense, and the one thing I would say is if
• 3:53:21
  Speaker 7: Will Johnson can run. I mean, clearly there's some concerns
• 3:53:24
  Speaker 7: about his name for him to be still on the board.
• 3:53:27
  Speaker 7: If they feel good about his medicals, he'd be a
• 3:53:30
  Speaker 7: good pick too, because they need they need secondary Hill.
• 3:53:33
  Speaker 18: Yeah.
• 3:53:33
  Speaker 6: Absolutely. I I just think, you know, the tables have
• 3:53:36
  Speaker 6: turned with Buffalo in a lot of ways, but their
• 3:53:39
  Speaker 6: mindset with Josh Allen is like, well Josh, we'll just
• 3:53:42
  Speaker 6: he'll figure it out, right. We don't like we need
• 3:53:44
  Speaker 6: like the defense has holes now we need the best
• 3:53:46
  Speaker 6: year ever with nothing right. We need we need to
• 3:53:48
  Speaker 6: fix the defense, like there's enough on offense with the
• 3:53:51
  Speaker 6: MVP of the league that like will score points, Like
• 3:53:54
  Speaker 6: the defense has a lot of holes.
• 3:53:56
  Speaker 2: Trey's in Tampa. Hey, Trey, Hey, how y'all doing.
• 3:54:01
  Speaker 39: Appreciate y'all letting me on. I don't know if y'all
• 3:54:04
  Speaker 39: blocked my other number, so I had to call from
• 3:54:06
  Speaker 39: a different phone. I was unable to get through. After
• 3:54:08
  Speaker 39: my last falling preseason last year about spread talking about
• 3:54:11
  Speaker 39: pile the other filling holes and creaming guys, I thought.
• 3:54:14
  Speaker 16: I might have been blocked.
• 3:54:14
  Speaker 39: I called off my other number got through, but my
• 3:54:17
  Speaker 39: dream scenario for the rest of the draft is Luther
• 3:54:20
  Speaker 39: Burden in the second round, we get Darius Sampson out
• 3:54:23
  Speaker 39: of Tennessee and Josiah Stewart out of Michigan in the
• 3:54:27
  Speaker 39: third round, and then going into the four beyond, walk
• 3:54:30
  Speaker 39: out of and tuk me would be breaking off of
• 3:54:32
  Speaker 39: me and.
• 3:54:32
  Speaker 17: Then sign no Evan.
• 3:54:34
  Speaker 16: But we did the full mister the off season.
• 3:54:36
  Speaker 39: So I need you to show up the gilest of
• 3:54:38
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• 3:54:40
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• 3:54:41
  Speaker 16: It won't be much talk about around that time, but
• 3:54:43
  Speaker 16: I appreciate y'all.
• 3:54:44
  Speaker 2: Let me fall in all right, Yeah, I didn't hit
• 3:54:47
  Speaker 2: up the tray, you were not blocked.
• 3:54:50
  Speaker 7: I will.
• 3:54:50
  Speaker 6: I will definitely give a review of the Kendrick Lamar concert.
• 3:54:55
  Speaker 5: You can take your day off afterwards.
• 3:54:56
  Speaker 6: Taken the day off afterwards, and I'm thinking that I
• 3:54:59
  Speaker 6: might take the train in on the special event train
• 3:55:04
  Speaker 6: from South Station and then come into.
• 3:55:07
  Speaker 2: Putting one on.
• 3:55:09
  Speaker 7: Well, this is like taking the day.
• 3:55:10
  Speaker 6: This is my this is my favorite artist because he
• 3:55:14
  Speaker 6: who should not be named is no longer acceptable to
• 3:55:16
  Speaker 6: be my favorite artist. So this is my number one
• 3:55:18
  Speaker 6: favorite artist in music right now.
• 3:55:21
  Speaker 2: Easy, easy.
• 3:55:24
  Speaker 7: I was I was going to say something else, but
• 3:55:26
  Speaker 7: I probably should bring his name up.
• 3:55:29
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Toronto.
• 3:55:30
  Speaker 38: Hey Kirk, Hello, Hi, Hey, how's it going. I really
• 3:55:38
  Speaker 38: like a pick tonight. I just want to start saying, Hey,
• 3:55:42
  Speaker 38: I met you guys in Mexico. I met Fred in Mexico,
• 3:55:46
  Speaker 38: and I think Mike was there.
• 3:55:47
  Speaker 14: Too, and a couple of it.
• 3:55:49
  Speaker 5: And I remember being in Mexico.
• 3:55:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, I drunk, I did.
• 3:55:54
  Speaker 16: I did meet Fred and uh in the hotel.
• 3:55:57
  Speaker 2: Lobby in Mexico City.
• 3:56:00
  Speaker 38: Yeah, Mexico City for still game. But yeah, I think
• 3:56:05
  Speaker 38: the pick is a great pick. I thought that my
• 3:56:08
  Speaker 38: first choice was the trade back, and second was to
• 3:56:11
  Speaker 38: get Will Campbell and third was Jen. But I think
• 3:56:15
  Speaker 38: there's a lot of I know, a lot of the
• 3:56:17
  Speaker 38: fans out there wondering about the you know what playmakers
• 3:56:22
  Speaker 38: we can get. There's a there's lots of them.
• 3:56:24
  Speaker 16: As far as pass.
• 3:56:25
  Speaker 13: Catches, Uh, I like Jayden Higgins, also.
• 3:56:29
  Speaker 38: Like Kyle Williams, Jaleen Noyle and later on David Streppo
• 3:56:35
  Speaker 38: even though he's not too fast, and Harold Fanning Jr.
• 3:56:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and like all those guys.
• 3:56:45
  Speaker 38: As far as far as running backs, I think, uh,
• 3:56:49
  Speaker 38: there's a little so deep Cam Skata Bowl and R. J.
• 3:56:54
  Speaker 38: Harvey and also very late even uh jar kids.
• 3:57:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know Auburn. Yeah, we're all really good names.
• 3:57:04
  Speaker 7: I didn't know that one.
• 3:57:05
  Speaker 6: Uh all really good names. I think, what's uh, what's
• 3:57:09
  Speaker 6: fascinating to me? You know you mentioned both both Iowa
• 3:57:12
  Speaker 6: state receivers, and one's an inside guy, one's an outside guy.
• 3:57:16
  Speaker 6: One's six foot four, one's five to eleven, you know,
• 3:57:18
  Speaker 6: a buck ninety. Like what is their type?
• 3:57:22
  Speaker 5: Now?
• 3:57:22
  Speaker 6: Like, what what's what are they targeting? You know, what
• 3:57:24
  Speaker 6: kind of receiver are they looking for? Because I think
• 3:57:26
  Speaker 6: both those players on my are very very equal, like
• 3:57:29
  Speaker 6: they're graded out very very equally. And so now it's
• 3:57:32
  Speaker 6: at the point where it's just, you know, do you
• 3:57:34
  Speaker 6: want the big outside guy or do you want you know,
• 3:57:37
  Speaker 6: a true separator like Jalen Knowle. So it would be
• 3:57:41
  Speaker 6: interesting to see what what they go for if they,
• 3:57:43
  Speaker 6: you know, draft one of those guys.
• 3:57:46
  Speaker 2: All right, John and La writes in the Bill Selections
• 3:57:49
  Speaker 2: in John and La says, I'm having PTSD pre traumatic
• 3:57:54
  Speaker 2: stress disorder. That case will steal luthor burden from us.
• 3:57:58
  Speaker 2: I think Rabel expects to have alture that can handle
• 3:58:00
  Speaker 2: a diva wide receiver fingers crossed love the Draft show
• 3:58:04
  Speaker 2: and the throw to Alex was iconic, iconic. I'm on
• 3:58:08
  Speaker 2: board with Bill Campbell LFG. Okay, who's the Bills take
• 3:58:13
  Speaker 2: the Bills?
• 3:58:13
  Speaker 6: We don't know. The Eagles did jump Kansas City, which
• 3:58:17
  Speaker 6: is interesting. So maybe the Kansas City was gonna was
• 3:58:20
  Speaker 6: getting calls to move out of the first round, and
• 3:58:22
  Speaker 6: Philly said, well, we want our guys, so they they
• 3:58:26
  Speaker 6: swapped picks. So the Eagles are now they could go
• 3:58:28
  Speaker 6: for Burden of course, because.
• 3:58:31
  Speaker 5: And then they'll trade j Brown to the Patriots, right,
• 3:58:33
  Speaker 5: you know, that's.
• 3:58:34
  Speaker 7: How it works. Make it so the Eagles are trading
• 3:58:37
  Speaker 7: thirty two and one sixty four to the Chiefs for
• 3:58:40
  Speaker 7: thirty one, So one sixty four to move up a spot,
• 3:58:45
  Speaker 7: that's not too bad.
• 3:58:46
  Speaker 6: So the Bills took Maxwell Harriston the cornerback from Kentucky.
• 3:58:50
  Speaker 7: Sah yeah, then gets by Paul Yeah, a good player,
• 3:58:56
  Speaker 7: fast corner.
• 3:58:57
  Speaker 6: Really kind of rose up the board here a little
• 3:58:59
  Speaker 6: bit to this uh spot. I would I'll give the
• 3:59:03
  Speaker 6: Bills credit for you know, a couple of years ago
• 3:59:05
  Speaker 6: they took Kyrie Elam in the first round. It was
• 3:59:08
  Speaker 6: like a physical pressman corner that they drafted to play
• 3:59:12
  Speaker 6: in his own scheme, which I'd never understood, Like I
• 3:59:14
  Speaker 6: didn't understand why they would do that. Maxwell Harriston is
• 3:59:18
  Speaker 6: his own corner that they drafted to play zone. So
• 3:59:20
  Speaker 6: this one definitely fits their style of defense and what
• 3:59:23
  Speaker 6: they want to do. He ran a four to eight
• 3:59:25
  Speaker 6: in the forty yard dash. Is a really fast player
• 3:59:28
  Speaker 6: as well. But I totally understand this from Buffalo's standpoint.
• 3:59:32
  Speaker 6: Fills a need. Style of player fits. Uh, this is
• 3:59:35
  Speaker 6: a This is the first time in the while that
• 3:59:37
  Speaker 6: I've actually liked a Bills pick. I think they've I
• 3:59:40
  Speaker 6: liked the.
• 3:59:40
  Speaker 7: Way he just you know, you guys like to talk
• 3:59:43
  Speaker 7: about the reaction.
• 3:59:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah that was to touch the logo.
• 3:59:47
  Speaker 34: I like that.
• 3:59:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's good.
• 3:59:49
  Speaker 5: Too bad he's gonna like Starks with his mom to
• 3:59:52
  Speaker 5: why he assume it was his mother, you know, like
• 3:59:56
  Speaker 5: May December.
• 3:59:59
  Speaker 7: That was That was kind of a cool moment too,
• 4:00:00
  Speaker 7: Like if we're just talking about it.
• 4:00:01
  Speaker 5: I know, well that's and that's what I said, Like, yeah,
• 4:00:04
  Speaker 5: I look forward to hating Maxwell Harriston when he's playing
• 4:00:07
  Speaker 5: for the Bills in a few months, but like for now,
• 4:00:08
  Speaker 5: I can appreciate like this is great.
• 4:00:10
  Speaker 7: You know, like the beauty of me is. By the
• 4:00:12
  Speaker 7: time the season rolls around, I'll forget that. Maxwell Hairston
• 4:00:15
  Speaker 7: was a person let alone to his mom, let alone.
• 4:00:18
  Speaker 7: A first round pick, all right, So that's the Bills pick.
• 4:00:23
  Speaker 7: So let's get into this little trade here. Let's get
• 4:00:26
  Speaker 7: onto it.
• 4:00:26
  Speaker 2: So it was going to be Kansas City at thirty
• 4:00:29
  Speaker 2: one and Philly at thirty two, but Philly they swapped.
• 4:00:33
  Speaker 2: So now it's Philly picking at thirty one with the
• 4:00:36
  Speaker 2: Chiefs the last pick in the first round. Who is
• 4:00:39
  Speaker 2: it that they I wonder if Mike Green the City
• 4:00:42
  Speaker 2: was on the phone.
• 4:00:42
  Speaker 5: With wonder, Oh, Mike Green they lost, you know, Joshua right, Like,
• 4:00:46
  Speaker 5: is that you know, kneeding an edge?
• 4:00:48
  Speaker 7: Philly's also not afraid always Burton pushed the envelo.
• 4:00:53
  Speaker 2: You don't think it was us that was trying to
• 4:00:55
  Speaker 2: move up that just got.
• 4:00:58
  Speaker 5: I don't know, and then that would perhaps it could be,
• 4:01:01
  Speaker 5: but I don't know, to be honest, I'd be surprised
• 4:01:04
  Speaker 5: if they moved up. For for who's there right now? Yeah,
• 4:01:08
  Speaker 5: I just don't disrespect to Burden. I think he's you know,
• 4:01:11
  Speaker 5: has a lot of what they need. But I think
• 4:01:14
  Speaker 5: everything Evan said just an extensive resources, a guy that
• 4:01:18
  Speaker 5: maybe has some question marks. You're trying to rebuild the program.
• 4:01:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know that. I'm gonna say they're probably gonna
• 4:01:24
  Speaker 5: stay put.
• 4:01:25
  Speaker 7: I just thought that is not the reason, that's all.
• 4:01:28
  Speaker 6: I thought it was iffy that he would even be
• 4:01:30
  Speaker 6: on their board to begin with, and so did have
• 4:01:32
  Speaker 6: them trade up for the player. Now, if they they
• 4:01:35
  Speaker 6: sit there tomorrow night and Luther Burden falls to thirty
• 4:01:37
  Speaker 6: eight and he's just sitting there like, you might have
• 4:01:40
  Speaker 6: to just throw out the fact that you think he's
• 4:01:42
  Speaker 6: a little bit of a diva and make the pick.
• 4:01:44
  Speaker 7: So I'm going to lean on you guys, because you
• 4:01:45
  Speaker 7: guys know this stuff. You guys told me about Isaiah
• 4:01:47
  Speaker 7: Bond today, I was like a whole week behind. Right,
• 4:01:49
  Speaker 7: that's a tough one. No, that's a whole different thing. Though.
• 4:01:54
  Speaker 7: If that's what we're talking if we're talking about that's
• 4:01:56
  Speaker 7: why he's off someone's board, like he'd be off my board.
• 4:02:01
  Speaker 7: Fred will tell you, I like my team would stink.
• 4:02:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, a little bit of a diva though, you know.
• 4:02:07
  Speaker 7: Of America. No, no, no, Isaiah Bond had like a
• 4:02:11
  Speaker 7: sexual assaulting or something like, so like that I want
• 4:02:14
  Speaker 7: no part of. But if Luther Burden's like issues at
• 4:02:17
  Speaker 7: Missouri last year, like he was kind of difficult fight
• 4:02:21
  Speaker 7: in a diva and that's why you're off the board,
• 4:02:25
  Speaker 7: I'm not on board with that. Like that to me
• 4:02:27
  Speaker 7: is something Yeah, you know he's he's he's got some
• 4:02:31
  Speaker 7: maturing to do, and we're a good culture fit for that.
• 4:02:34
  Speaker 7: We we we bring those players in, Like that's why
• 4:02:37
  Speaker 7: you know, Randy Moss came here, who supposedly didn't like
• 4:02:40
  Speaker 7: football anymore and set the all time NFL touchdown record
• 4:02:43
  Speaker 7: receiving record in a single season. And Mike Vrabel himself
• 4:02:47
  Speaker 7: talked glowingly about Randy Moss before that, remember when that
• 4:02:52
  Speaker 7: clip that made the rounds, you know, when he was
• 4:02:54
  Speaker 7: still a player. So I would I would be disappointed,
• 4:02:57
  Speaker 7: not if they didn't trade up because of it, but
• 4:02:59
  Speaker 7: if they had him off his off the board because
• 4:03:01
  Speaker 7: of being a diva.
• 4:03:02
  Speaker 5: Right, that was a big point spectrum of that too
• 4:03:05
  Speaker 5: though of like yeah, he's a diva. But then there's
• 4:03:06
  Speaker 5: also just like he just doesn't like football, he doesn't
• 4:03:08
  Speaker 5: really get it. He's more talented than everybody, he doesn't
• 4:03:10
  Speaker 5: really have any interest in working at it when it
• 4:03:13
  Speaker 5: comes to him. That would just if you put.
• 4:03:16
  Speaker 7: Him off the board because of that, Like I want
• 4:03:18
  Speaker 7: to work with talented guys and get him on the
• 4:03:20
  Speaker 7: right page. Like that's all. Like I don't necessarily I'm
• 4:03:23
  Speaker 7: not telling you I want to trade up for him,
• 4:03:25
  Speaker 7: like I want to go out of you know, like
• 4:03:27
  Speaker 7: I want to go out of my way to get.
• 4:03:28
  Speaker 5: There's a certain point where that value you don't.
• 4:03:30
  Speaker 7: Care and you're just going to do I just want
• 4:03:32
  Speaker 7: the talent, and I want to say what he plays.
• 4:03:34
  Speaker 7: He plays like Abdual Carter, Like that's what people were
• 4:03:37
  Speaker 7: talking about him.
• 4:03:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah. A lot of the things that you hear about
• 4:03:40
  Speaker 6: with Burden are just you know, Monday through Saturday. He's
• 4:03:44
  Speaker 6: not going to be a hard He's not going to
• 4:03:45
  Speaker 6: practice hard. He's not going to study hard. He's not
• 4:03:48
  Speaker 6: going to work out, he's not going to show up
• 4:03:49
  Speaker 6: at the facility early. Like he's just not a rat,
• 4:03:52
  Speaker 6: you know, he's not a gym rat about it. Yeah,
• 4:03:55
  Speaker 6: because the Eagles, just like the Ravens, will just continue
• 4:03:58
  Speaker 6: to just draft good players and have them fault to
• 4:03:59
  Speaker 6: them at the end of the first round. With Burden,
• 4:04:04
  Speaker 6: you know, you also hear a lot about last year,
• 4:04:06
  Speaker 6: and it didn't go as planned, like for the entire program,
• 4:04:09
  Speaker 6: Like it wasn't just him, but he had a bad year.
• 4:04:12
  Speaker 6: Brady Cooked, the quarterback at Missouri, had an awful year
• 4:04:15
  Speaker 6: and his stats weren't the same as the twenty twenty
• 4:04:17
  Speaker 6: three season. He took a big step back, yep. And
• 4:04:20
  Speaker 6: so there's there's questions just about what went wrong at
• 4:04:23
  Speaker 6: Missouri last year. Well, you know, he I think the
• 4:04:26
  Speaker 6: comparisons that you hear about, you know, from a character
• 4:04:29
  Speaker 6: standpoint a lot, like you hear a lot about deva
• 4:04:32
  Speaker 6: receiver here here, Odell Beckham, right, like guys like that,
• 4:04:35
  Speaker 6: you know, maybe a little bit of Stefan Diggs, like,
• 4:04:37
  Speaker 6: you know, things like that. And that's that's what teams
• 4:04:40
  Speaker 6: have been concerned about, you know, coupled with the fact
• 4:04:43
  Speaker 6: that the year last year was by his standards, kind
• 4:04:46
  Speaker 6: of a disaster, honestly, Like.
• 4:04:48
  Speaker 7: He just finally took a step back. And he's a
• 4:04:50
  Speaker 7: guy that I really really liked, and I watched a
• 4:04:53
  Speaker 7: little bit last year because I had liked him from
• 4:04:54
  Speaker 7: the previous year. They played BC early in the season,
• 4:04:57
  Speaker 7: I got a chance to watch him. He played well
• 4:04:59
  Speaker 7: in that game. But I just like Evan just rattled
• 4:05:04
  Speaker 7: off a couple of names, like I would take Odell
• 4:05:06
  Speaker 7: Beckham and Stefan Diggs coming into the draft in a
• 4:05:09
  Speaker 7: heartbeat with these kinds of diva character issues, you know,
• 4:05:15
  Speaker 7: like that. I can live with that. Now if he
• 4:05:18
  Speaker 7: did things off the field that I don't want, you know,
• 4:05:20
  Speaker 7: I don't want to put in my program. You know, guns,
• 4:05:24
  Speaker 7: you know, drugs, you know, obviously violence against women. I
• 4:05:28
  Speaker 7: don't want those, those them, you know, Fred says I
• 4:05:30
  Speaker 7: want all boy scouts. Yeah, No, I think I can
• 4:05:32
  Speaker 7: find enough players that don't have lengthy criminal rental records.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just kind of interested in drafting Campbell though.
• 4:05:40
  Speaker 5: For the Eagles, where they had Zach Bond breakout year
• 4:05:43
  Speaker 5: last year, resign him. You still got Dean Kobe, Dean
• 4:05:46
  Speaker 5: coming back from an injury.
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  Speaker 7: If you get injury though, maybe they're worried about him.
• 4:05:49
  Speaker 7: So maybe they also had a ton of Injuriesane Hot
• 4:05:52
  Speaker 7: a little bit off the edge, a little bit like
• 4:05:54
  Speaker 7: he did. Yeah, just an interesting player, I mean, but
• 4:05:57
  Speaker 7: not an obvious Oh, they have a higher rate of
• 4:06:00
  Speaker 7: everybody's board. So Mike Green is probably the only other one.
• 4:06:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so Gi haid Campbell had a shoulder injury that
• 4:06:07
  Speaker 6: he just got surgery on. He tried to go through
• 4:06:10
  Speaker 6: the pre draft process first and do all the workouts
• 4:06:13
  Speaker 6: and all that kind of stuff, and then he had
• 4:06:14
  Speaker 6: so shoulder surgery. So most people think that he's going
• 4:06:18
  Speaker 6: to start the year on pup and maybe it might
• 4:06:20
  Speaker 6: not play right away out of the gate. But if
• 4:06:22
  Speaker 6: you're the Eagles, like, what are you worried about that?
• 4:06:24
  Speaker 1: For right?
• 4:06:25
  Speaker 7: Like you have all the leaders know what kinds of
• 4:06:27
  Speaker 7: picks the Patriots used to make routine now because they
• 4:06:29
  Speaker 7: could and Harvey Roseman's not going anywhere.
• 4:06:32
  Speaker 5: I have such a different guy doesn't work out. I
• 4:06:34
  Speaker 5: have such a different perspective now on how the draft
• 4:06:36
  Speaker 5: kind of works because I realized, as much as it's
• 4:06:38
  Speaker 5: hard to be in the twenties and have to watch
• 4:06:41
  Speaker 5: the draft unfold, it also just kind of makes your
• 4:06:43
  Speaker 5: decision easy where oh yeah, guess what this awesome linebacker is,
• 4:06:46
  Speaker 5: the one who made it through the gauntlet and fell
• 4:06:48
  Speaker 5: to you. You never could have staft for the last
• 4:06:50
  Speaker 5: two months and been like, I want Campbell at thirty one.
• 4:06:52
  Speaker 5: I want Campbell a thirty one. Vince will right, you're
• 4:06:55
  Speaker 5: able to sit back, and but it's also it seems
• 4:06:58
  Speaker 5: like if you start missing on those picks, it can
• 4:07:01
  Speaker 5: start to rattle up fast because you're picking lower and
• 4:07:04
  Speaker 5: all of a sudden you are left with some of
• 4:07:06
  Speaker 5: the leftover. So if you're picking the wrong leftover as
• 4:07:08
  Speaker 5: you get into the position like the Patriots.
• 4:07:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you're picking in lower twenties, it you're
• 4:07:11
  Speaker 2: probably a good team. Question is how long are you
• 4:07:14
  Speaker 2: going to stay a good thing?
• 4:07:16
  Speaker 7: Who do you think that might have been interested in
• 4:07:18
  Speaker 7: that guy Campbell that caused the Eagles.
• 4:07:21
  Speaker 5: To Oh, I don't know.
• 4:07:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody was obviously, Yeah.
• 4:07:25
  Speaker 5: Definitely, I mean I can see why. I mean, it
• 4:07:27
  Speaker 5: makes it makes sense. He could fit probably just about anybody.
• 4:07:30
  Speaker 7: No, I mean, Campbell's a good player. But I just
• 4:07:32
  Speaker 7: wonder if people think he's going to start on pup. Yeah,
• 4:07:36
  Speaker 7: they had to have some a I mean, I know,
• 4:07:39
  Speaker 7: it's only the one hundred and sixty fourth pick. What's
• 4:07:41
  Speaker 7: that like, fourth round or fifth rounder? Fifth rounder? I guess, yeah,
• 4:07:46
  Speaker 7: I'm lost. Yes, I'm tired.
• 4:07:48
  Speaker 2: No, it could have been anybody.
• 4:07:50
  Speaker 6: That's a good question. He's a really good player, and
• 4:07:52
  Speaker 6: I don't think that the shoulder injury is necessarily like
• 4:07:55
  Speaker 6: long term concern. But he's you know, like I said,
• 4:07:58
  Speaker 6: he's probably going to not going to be healthy to
• 4:08:01
  Speaker 6: start the year. But he's a top twenty player in
• 4:08:03
  Speaker 6: the class. I mean, he's taking those sec guys. I
• 4:08:08
  Speaker 6: compare him a little bit to Tremaine Edmunds. You know
• 4:08:10
  Speaker 6: Bills now bears great athleticism, great coverage player, great in space,
• 4:08:16
  Speaker 6: can rush a little bit off the edge. I just
• 4:08:19
  Speaker 6: think that he's a heck of football player.
• 4:08:20
  Speaker 2: All right, So the final pick, City Chiefs pick is
• 4:08:25
  Speaker 2: in quickly. Let's get to a couple more phone calls
• 4:08:28
  Speaker 2: before we wrap up. Get ready for tomorrow. Daves and
• 4:08:30
  Speaker 2: the Philippines. What's up, Dave?
• 4:08:34
  Speaker 18: Oh not much.
• 4:08:35
  Speaker 2: How you guys doing all right?
• 4:08:36
  Speaker 17: Great great show, great show.
• 4:08:39
  Speaker 28: Just my first time calling in. I've been watching you
• 4:08:41
  Speaker 28: all forever.
• 4:08:42
  Speaker 7: Thank you, Thank you.
• 4:08:44
  Speaker 28: First off, I'm.
• 4:08:45
  Speaker 31: Really excited about the first pick.
• 4:08:49
  Speaker 17: The way the.
• 4:08:51
  Speaker 16: The kid's emotions were after.
• 4:08:55
  Speaker 18: The pick and being interviewed, it got me exciting.
• 4:08:58
  Speaker 28: That's what you like to see from somebody.
• 4:09:00
  Speaker 16: Either get to picked.
• 4:09:02
  Speaker 17: Knowing that the trade are difficult to come by, especially
• 4:09:08
  Speaker 17: this season.
• 4:09:09
  Speaker 18: Now we have what two picks in the second.
• 4:09:11
  Speaker 2: Round, no one pick in the second round, two third.
• 4:09:17
  Speaker 7: Okay, so it's thirty eight, sixty nine and seventy seven,
• 4:09:20
  Speaker 7: I believe.
• 4:09:21
  Speaker 18: Okay, then in the second round, mainly what would you
• 4:09:27
  Speaker 18: like to see and who would you like to see
• 4:09:30
  Speaker 18: them pick? And I'll take that off there.
• 4:09:33
  Speaker 7: Okay, thanks Dave.
• 4:09:35
  Speaker 2: So second round, Yeah, you're looking at I like, I
• 4:09:38
  Speaker 2: kind of like would like to see them take a
• 4:09:40
  Speaker 2: running back stick to offense unless Burden's there, you know,
• 4:09:44
  Speaker 2: and his off field things don't, you know, preclude him
• 4:09:49
  Speaker 2: from being taken. I'd like to see a wide receiver,
• 4:09:51
  Speaker 2: but I think there might be more value at running
• 4:09:55
  Speaker 2: back at that point.
• 4:09:56
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 4:09:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I think I think there's definitely value of
• 4:09:59
  Speaker 5: running back right now. I like next Gordon. I've talked
• 4:10:02
  Speaker 5: about him all spring. He's another top of the second round,
• 4:10:05
  Speaker 5: kind of an edge guy that I think fits what they.
• 4:10:08
  Speaker 7: Won't get off the defense.
• 4:10:10
  Speaker 5: I know, but I think that's that's that's one of
• 4:10:12
  Speaker 5: my guys right now.
• 4:10:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 4:10:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Donovan Azaruku is still there. But the BC kid, Yeah,
• 4:10:18
  Speaker 6: the BC kid. You know, I think we've talked a
• 4:10:21
  Speaker 6: lot about Doud you know, thirty eight, Like you're gonna
• 4:10:24
  Speaker 6: be kind of in a group of edge rushers and
• 4:10:26
  Speaker 6: defensive lineman. Like, that's just where the strength of the
• 4:10:29
  Speaker 6: draft is at this point of the draft. So you know,
• 4:10:32
  Speaker 6: as Iku is still going to be there. You know,
• 4:10:34
  Speaker 6: Mike Green's probably off their board. Uh, Derek able to
• 4:10:36
  Speaker 6: take Jack Sawyer, Darius Alexander. I think he's a little
• 4:10:40
  Speaker 6: early for Jack Sawyer, but at that point, you know,
• 4:10:44
  Speaker 6: maybe you could get into some of the receivers and
• 4:10:46
  Speaker 6: tight ends too. I wouldn't rule out tight ends either,
• 4:10:49
  Speaker 6: but you know that it's it's one of those spots
• 4:10:53
  Speaker 6: where I think the talent is going to be there
• 4:10:55
  Speaker 6: on defense once they get on the clock. But we'll see,
• 4:10:59
  Speaker 6: I mean we'll we'll see, I'm sure.
• 4:11:02
  Speaker 7: Is what's up? Real?
• 4:11:05
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 4:11:06
  Speaker 43: Are you doing this evening, gentlemen?
• 4:11:07
  Speaker 2: Ok? Yeah, big side.
• 4:11:10
  Speaker 43: I just let out my third loud exploitive of the
• 4:11:13
  Speaker 43: night when the Eagles took jo Hot Campbell. He and
• 4:11:16
  Speaker 43: Gray's Abel were my two favorite players in this draft.
• 4:11:19
  Speaker 43: But I just want to touch on a couple of
• 4:11:22
  Speaker 43: points and ask a question.
• 4:11:23
  Speaker 7: First is I.
• 4:11:25
  Speaker 43: Talked with Evan on catch twenty two yesterday and he
• 4:11:28
  Speaker 43: called me out a little bit about wanting to move
• 4:11:30
  Speaker 43: out of that fourth spot. Uh, saying, you know, is
• 4:11:34
  Speaker 43: that I don't like the player or I just didn't
• 4:11:36
  Speaker 43: want to, you know, eat my vegetables and draft to tackle.
• 4:11:40
  Speaker 43: And I'm a guy who's pounded the table for building
• 4:11:43
  Speaker 43: in the trenches. So it's one hundred percent not that
• 4:11:45
  Speaker 43: I just I don't care for the player that much,
• 4:11:47
  Speaker 43: but you know, I gotta hope he's an all Pro
• 4:11:50
  Speaker 43: tackle at this point. The second thing is this round
• 4:11:54
  Speaker 43: two pick, Jaydon Higgins is there.
• 4:11:56
  Speaker 7: He's my guy.
• 4:11:57
  Speaker 43: I like him a lot. But two names I haven't
• 4:12:00
  Speaker 43: heard brought up really at all connected to the Patriots,
• 4:12:03
  Speaker 43: and I think especially the first one I'm gonna mention
• 4:12:05
  Speaker 43: is going to be a Rabel type guy.
• 4:12:08
  Speaker 28: Uh.
• 4:12:09
  Speaker 43: Carson Schwashinger, you SLA linebacker looks like you know, human
• 4:12:14
  Speaker 43: heat seeking missile. And h nicki Minmoor, the safety South Carolina.
• 4:12:20
  Speaker 45: Like.
• 4:12:20
  Speaker 43: I I know they're defensive players and he needs some
• 4:12:23
  Speaker 43: offensive talent, but I just I don't know they look
• 4:12:25
  Speaker 43: like Patriots.
• 4:12:26
  Speaker 7: I like the safety a lot.
• 4:12:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, who is the safety?
• 4:12:29
  Speaker 7: He said that?
• 4:12:33
  Speaker 6: I actually, I actually think that he's my least favorite
• 4:12:36
  Speaker 6: player in the draft.
• 4:12:36
  Speaker 7: I like him. He's one of the first guys we've
• 4:12:39
  Speaker 7: disagreed on.
• 4:12:40
  Speaker 6: He his tape was awful. Like I'll just say it,
• 4:12:43
  Speaker 6: I like him awful, Like, now he's a great athlete.
• 4:12:47
  Speaker 7: Maybe that's why he trips over.
• 4:12:50
  Speaker 6: Sorry, I don't mean to be rude. It's kind of late,
• 4:12:53
  Speaker 6: but I just I really.
• 4:12:55
  Speaker 2: Did not care for the film with him that the
• 4:12:57
  Speaker 2: Patriots take him and everyone's like, well, you know, he's
• 4:12:59
  Speaker 2: a good a god.
• 4:13:02
  Speaker 46: He runs really effectively with both left feet, so it's
• 4:13:05
  Speaker 46: funny like he had a rep where he was like
• 4:13:07
  Speaker 46: trying to Yeah, he's trying to fall underneath the crosser
• 4:13:12
  Speaker 46: as a roboting across or is what they call it
• 4:13:16
  Speaker 46: in the in the lingo, and he literally tripped over
• 4:13:19
  Speaker 46: himself trying to do it.
• 4:13:20
  Speaker 6: Like he's he's just not very coordinated. Great athlete though,
• 4:13:24
  Speaker 6: But uh, yeah, I didn't mean to pick on Rio.
• 4:13:27
  Speaker 6: I just I kind of felt like this and as
• 4:13:29
  Speaker 6: we're kind of like wrapping it up, I just kind
• 4:13:31
  Speaker 6: of felt in general that it wasn't sexy, it wasn't exciting.
• 4:13:36
  Speaker 6: You know, it's hard to get it really excited about
• 4:13:39
  Speaker 6: an offensive lineman. Like I I get that, and I
• 4:13:42
  Speaker 6: get that that's not really everybody's cup of tea. Maybe
• 4:13:45
  Speaker 6: Will Campbell's not your cup of tea, but they had
• 4:13:48
  Speaker 6: a glaring need and he was the consensus best player
• 4:13:51
  Speaker 6: available to fill that need and they went out and
• 4:13:53
  Speaker 6: that's what they did. So when he will get the
• 4:13:55
  Speaker 6: rest of this first round, you know, Josh Connerly is
• 4:13:58
  Speaker 6: now gone, Josh Simmons just to Philly, I'm sure Houston
• 4:14:01
  Speaker 6: is going to take ursery or a tackle there at
• 4:14:05
  Speaker 6: the top of the second round. So yeah, they could
• 4:14:07
  Speaker 6: have traded back up. But we've been down that road before,
• 4:14:10
  Speaker 6: Like we've been down the road of let's try to
• 4:14:12
  Speaker 6: trade back up, and you can't always do it, like,
• 4:14:15
  Speaker 6: you can't always pull it off. They tried it last
• 4:14:17
  Speaker 6: year and they didn't pull it off. So how would
• 4:14:19
  Speaker 6: all of us have felt if they had taken you know,
• 4:14:22
  Speaker 6: a different player at four overall, Ashton genty or whatever,
• 4:14:26
  Speaker 6: and then we got to Day two of the draft
• 4:14:27
  Speaker 6: and they still didn't have a left tackle.
• 4:14:29
  Speaker 7: It's easy to sit here and say those tackles went
• 4:14:32
  Speaker 7: very late, but that doesn't mean you could have gotten there, right, yeah, right, right,
• 4:14:36
  Speaker 7: don't so it doesn't mean you could have gotten there.
• 4:14:38
  Speaker 5: And I would just say, I mean, the only Evan
• 4:14:40
  Speaker 5: laid it out pretty well. But I would say I
• 4:14:41
  Speaker 5: am excited about Will Campbell, And I mean some people
• 4:14:43
  Speaker 5: may not get excited about tackles, but I think he's
• 4:14:45
  Speaker 5: the kind of player that I can get excited for.
• 4:14:47
  Speaker 5: I'm excited to add him to that group, which I
• 4:14:49
  Speaker 5: just think, as I said, when they picked him, desperately
• 4:14:52
  Speaker 5: needed kind of a tone setter, kind of a guy.
• 4:14:54
  Speaker 5: And you could just see I mean everything. I mean,
• 4:14:56
  Speaker 5: we're looking again. They just showed another clip. I mean,
• 4:14:58
  Speaker 5: it was one of the moments in the night was
• 4:15:00
  Speaker 5: Will Campbell getting teared up so excited to meet him tomorrow,
• 4:15:02
  Speaker 5: excited to get him here, and I think it's the
• 4:15:05
  Speaker 5: pick they needed to make and hopefully it works.
• 4:15:07
  Speaker 7: Out all right.
• 4:15:07
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a wrap on Round one. The Patriots have
• 4:15:11
  Speaker 2: Will Campbell. Tomorrow's a big day. Will Campbell will be
• 4:15:15
  Speaker 2: here and we'll have him in studio. We're gonna tape
• 4:15:18
  Speaker 2: an interview with him that we're gonna play on the
• 4:15:21
  Speaker 2: show later tomorrow night. We're gonna be live tomorrow starting
• 4:15:25
  Speaker 2: at seven o'clock for Round two. So join us then. But,
• 4:15:30
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• 4:15:32
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• 4:15:35
  Speaker 2: we'll follow his journey all the way from Green Bay
• 4:15:38
  Speaker 2: back to here and everything that he does when he
• 4:15:41
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• 4:15:45
  Speaker 2: interview that we'll have. Those are rowa was good meeting
• 4:15:47
  Speaker 2: that first round pick for the first time in person.
• 4:15:51
  Speaker 2: And then we'll be back here on the show at seven.
• 4:15:53
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• 4:15:57
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• 4:16:03
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