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Vroom Vroom Wednesdays: MotoGP 2025 Season (so far) Recap & WorldSBK discussed in S5 Ep 33 · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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You're listening to the Be Forever Cool podcast.
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My name is Rex 45. It's the room Room Wednesday
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edition. We're going to do it a little
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different tonight. We got the some long time people
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who have not been on the show coming back on the show.
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So we don't have a good old time.
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But first let's bring in the guests one at a time.
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Let's start with Jordan. Welcome back, Jordan, man.
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How are things, man? Oh, things are going good, man.
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Can't complain. Can't complain at all.
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I mean, if you can't complain, you know you're living life
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above ground. That's a good thing.
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God bless. Right, But you know, you get to
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listen or watch motorcycle racing, so it's not all bad.
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Even if all of the rest of the world is chaos, You got
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motorcycle racing to watch. And, you know, at least you get
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to smile some weekends. Yes, yes.
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And you know, some weekends we can smile bigger than other
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weekends, but we'll get to that later on.
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Oh, no doubt, no doubt, no doubt.
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But we're going to keep the line up going.
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This young, this guy keeps tapping in and out.
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Smitty what's good, man? What's going on?
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What's going on, man? Finally back online.
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Been a little hiatus, been busy just working, raising kids,
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racing, riding bikes, fixing stuff.
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That's it man. So I'm back for a little bit.
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Well, it's nice to have you back and you know, I'm pretty sure
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you know you found some time now that you know Marquez is 1 and I
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I know you got I know you got a lot to get off your chest.
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Probably more like I told you so.
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I told you so. I told you so, but it's.
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Day one, but you ain't believe me, so it is what it is.
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I still don't believe it. I'm in denial.
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We're going to keep it moving. Bobby shakes.
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Welcome back as well. I mean, it's like, man, it's
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like, did y'all get, you know, got picked up by ice and, and,
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and it's just, you know, you know, you got out.
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What's good, man? Yeah, I mean, ICE did a huge
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sweep, grabbed all of us, put us through the shifter, and I fell
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through one of the cracks. Now I'm back.
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It's been, it's been unbelievable.
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Listen, we're going to hear more about it, man, so it's going to
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be a good show. Welcome back, fellas.
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Yeah, I don't even know where to start, so I'm just going to kind
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of throw it out there. We'll start with Jordan and get
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caught up. You know, let's let's let's kind
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of have you do a quick recap of the Moto GP season, the things
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that, you know, you might have wanted to say earlier if you
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were able to come on the show, because you definitely were
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checking out our post and and commenting and stuff like that.
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So we kept a conversation going, but you know, what are your
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thoughts on on how the season panned out and and I see you got
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your Yamaha shirt on. So is that because of V4 or just
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team Yamaha? Oh, it's actually definitely
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Yamaha. You know, I'm not mad about the
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V4. I'm I'm kind of mad we didn't go
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through the V4 earlier. But you know, obviously they
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have to do some testing and they have to do some more testing.
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Had to do some qualifications, how to go through FIM, how to
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get mallocated, how to go through all the rigor rumors to
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making sure everything's, you know, to spec.
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Even though we're changing complete motorcycles in the next
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year and a half, that's kind of OK.
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But you know, we want to make sure that this bike is going to
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be top tier for the next 3 rounds.
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Need to say above that we all set it from what USA that
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Marquez is pretty much going to win the championship, which he
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did. And I would almost say
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spectacular form with three round 3 rounds left to go or
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actually 2 rounds now got left to go.
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You know, he clinched it up over the fourth.
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Yeah, you know, with the sprints.
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On Yeah, yeah, well, the. Numbers but it.
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Don't matter. We we knew he was going to win.
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We knew a Ducati was going to win it regardless.
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So the the the season went is not went is going off pretty
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well. Congratulations to all of the
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Champions that are all through FIM, whether it's Moto America,
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Moto GP, Moto 3, we're not going to do any spoilers right about
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now. If you haven't seen the season,
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I don't want to do any spoilers, but you know, if the season was
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really good and it's still going off for Moto 2.
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So we want to see who goes off for 4th, 5th, 4th, 5th, 3rd and
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2nd for Moto GP and then we still got a crown of
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Championship for Moto 2. So we can still a lot of more
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racing to go through as well as up and coming with Royal Super
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Bikes. So said a lot of stuff going on,
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a lot of moving and shaking, not too many seats that's going to
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be available for Moto GP, even for Moto 2 which Moto 3 riders
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is trying to move up into. So what I said we got a lot of
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talk about a lot of stuff to cover.
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But yeah, I have been covering, I have been watching all the
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races, even though I haven't been, you know, behind the
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scenes, you know, or actually on the scene.
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I've been doing my things behind the scenes.
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No doubt, but you've been staying cool.
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So that's the best part about it all Smitty man, let let let's
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let's get your recap. I mean, I I know you have done
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some recaps on on your channel on YouTube and stuff like that.
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So I know you in the game, yeah, like he's mentioned, you've been
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at the track and, and, and racing and and stuff like that,
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which is a beautiful thing. But you know, what are your
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thoughts on on the season itself?
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And, and you know, I know Marquez obviously won, but you
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know, what about the other manufacturers and, and riders
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and stuff like that? So I have a couple of thoughts
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on the season and not to rub it in good I told you so, but I'm
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saying one time since week 1. I told you so.
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However, it makes it for a weird experience.
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Yeah. Like, you know, you know, you go
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into the race weekend, you know who's going to win.
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So it becomes kind of non exciting almost because it's
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like Marc Marquez. And then what's exciting is
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second through, you know, after that.
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And I think once, I think now that he's hurt, sadly, to say a
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bit more exciting now because now you have no clue who who's
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going to win. I'll say this, I disagree with
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that non exciting, the exciting part because you know who's
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going to win. It was still exciting.
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It was still exciting and you know, I'll leave it there but
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continue. Well, OK, tell you what, maybe
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non exciting is the wrong word to use, but it's it was easy.
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It was easy to guess. OK, Marquez, maybe Alex.
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Then who else after that? Now, you know, from from this
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point on the next couple of races, it's a total dice roll.
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It could be Petco who has a great weekend in Japan, you
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know, last race and then a turbo weekend again this past weekend.
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It could be, it could be freaking Alex coming this time.
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It could be Bez. We have no clue at all was going
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to win next the next few races. Can I, can I do what can I do?
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What I told you so that Mark is going to destroy the bike
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because the bike is starting to seem unrideable for some folks.
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It's not unrideable man all. People just can't ride.
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All right, all right. I mean, you know, the same thing
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happened at Honda, you know, so it's not.
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Unrideable at all. Man, OK, all right, all right.
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We. We.
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Because that last Honda night, it was a bad bike.
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Because even Mark couldn't ride. Mark couldn't.
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Even Mark couldn't with, you know, man, so the bike was bad
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itself. Well, yeah, but that that, you
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know, the bike doesn't get bad in one year.
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Just keep that in mind. Thanks, Todd.
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You know, so we'll keep it moving.
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Let's get to Bobby Shakes. Shakes.
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Welcome back, man. You know, you you are a non
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really racer kind of guy, but you follow Moto GP and world
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super bike and and you like the smell of gasoline, but you
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prefer something with apes going down the highway.
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We we just the way you look. Hey, listen, I'm only in true
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blue tonight only because I went to the Ducati shop.
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I bought an extra, I got a 5X Ducati shirt.
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And when I looked at conversion chart, a 5X in men in America is
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a woman's medium in Ducati language.
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So I had to get true blue, something that could fit me.
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Sorry. So, so I look like I just came
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out of the paddock and I'm going to lie and say I did.
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I've been working on the V4 development while Jordan's been
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doing nothing. And just this minute, just a
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quick little, little chemistry here.
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So this is a motorcycle, right? Nice and nice and straight.
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You can see that when you crash, you bend the motorcycle like so
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right now the motorcycle is no longer straight.
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It's it's, it's bent, right? Every crash, something bends.
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This is just physics. So now the Ducati has become
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completely unwriteable. The same thing that happened at
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Ducati with the same writer. Now everybody wants to say I
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told you so, but I'm the only man that said Ducati should have
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been one through 6. This has been the worst year for
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factory Ducati in the history of Moto GP.
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They should have been one through 6.
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I don't know where the hell they're fine.
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See, the Ducati guys don't let you get it out.
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Ducati coughed it up. I don't know where Busecki came
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from. You shouldn't even be in the
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running. Busecki is a is a is a is a
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stand in for Aprilia. He he's he's just a stand in.
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He's only good for photo OPS. He's actually not good for
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racing. And now he may take third place.
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And I've been Tony Wall year that big Nya echo see you later.
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And look where we're at now. It should be one through 6
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Ducati. We have the machine and I and I
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also will say something that nobody I, I, I, I listen to all
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you Moto GP clowns out there. And this is the realist show on
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the Internet talk about Moto GP. Everything that these panelists
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have said has come true. And I like to say the only bike
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that had the power for the Ducati has been KTM could go
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back to the first episode, could go back to the pre shows.
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You could watch behind the scenes.
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You could come join us on, on the, the Twitter group, the
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Twitch group, the Instagram group, all of the groups.
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And I've, and I've been saying that KTM has the power and, and
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that's the racist drawing there. And you can smell the buns.
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You got to smell the buns, right?
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Finally, smell the buns. The word KTM is.
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OK, they're they're fifth in the championship and moving
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Aprilia's fourth in the championship.
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And you know, you're absolutely right.
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Ducati did not get one through 6, but the the factory guys are
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one and three and one of the satellite guys is 2.
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So I mean it, you got to look at VR46 and Aldergear.
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Aldergear is a rookie, so for him to even be 8th is is pretty
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impressive. I mean, he did win this past
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week and just so impressive. Second youngest guy to win a
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champion a race since Mark Marquez, probably in the
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youngest. So I mean that it that's but
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that's what racing is, right. And and I also said that at the
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beginning of the year that, you know, since we were talking
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about what we said that, you know, riders are going to try to
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beat, they're going to they're going to cut, they're going to
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step their game up. And that's what we're seeing,
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we're seeing Bazeki do that from, you know, the beginning of
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season to where he is now, because at the beginning of the
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season he, he was, you know, like, like Smitty, say, if you,
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if you're fifteen, 14th or whatever, trying to get a new
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contract or, or get out of Moto GP and, and, and, and Bez
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figured that out. You see Acosta as much as he's
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crashing because he wants to win, he's figuring it out.
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But I think that's help of Vinyala's being able to help the
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KTM. So, you know, for fans of Moto
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GP, it's good to see other manufacturers in there so it's
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not all Ducati one through 6. And trust me, I I'm not going to
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complain about Ducati one through 6.
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No, I I have to disagree with you in Smitty, nobody likes the
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underdog. You only like the underdog when
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you're betting. Everybody loves dynasties.
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Everybody loves. When the Celtics win 100,
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everybody love when the Lakers win 100, everybody love Michael
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Jordan back-to-back, the triple back, the back, the back, the
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Tripoli back. Everybody loves Golden State.
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Everybody loves the Patriots. Nobody loves.
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Loves surprises. Well, shakes.
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I got nobody shakes. This is a individual sport like
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golf, like tennis. This is this is where one person
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says, hey, I'm tired of losing. It's not the whole team.
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You're not waiting for four other guys on a basketball team
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to show up and play or let other guys on a football team to show
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up and play. And you just get sick of it.
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You get up, you put your letters on that morning and and you say
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I'm going to find something today.
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Nobody likes that. Nobody.
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Happen on motorcycle racing. Shakes nobody like nobody likes
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a surprise. People want to see dominance.
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People want to see human beings go to the apex of their
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creativity. Nobody wants to see KTM win
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anything. Nobody wants to see a Honda.
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We want to see Ducati one through 6.
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We want to see take. That shirt off, take that shirt
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off. I I can't take it off the only
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shirt I could fit in. All right, Smitty, what do you,
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what do you want to add to that? Because I was waiting for you to
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chime in. I was like, I can't believe
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Smitty just sitting back letting shake.
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What? He wants to Hondo, man, That's
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you. I don't care about Ducati and
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their fanboys like Rex and everybody else.
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Not a fanboy. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm one of them,
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OK? OK, you know what, Yes, you got
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a bite. Yes, you are one of them.
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But no, I mean, so I get what you're saying.
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People do like dominance, you know, But people like dominance
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when their guys dominated. No one like.
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No one like the Patriots winning six rings except for the Patriot
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fans. No, no, no, no, no.
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No. Secretly, secretly, it's good
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for the sport because you're going to the reason, only reason
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why Floyd Mayweather same sports, different sports, same
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topic 150, right. Everybody tuned in to watch
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lose. I'm coughing.
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It's a quit smoking. Everybody tuned in to watch
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Mayweather lose. Everybody tuned in to watch the
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Patriots lose every day I see you Smitty.
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I got a camera inside your house when I went to visit you last
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weekend. I put a camera in your house and
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you have a voodoo doll and I'm watching you you're you're
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watching Moto GP more intent leave now as the season is
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ending and you're sticking the pins.
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You love the pain. You want to crash out.
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You want to see oil leak. You want to see Ducati fits
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allowed, but you're. You.
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You're. The hate that you have, the
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dominance is the love that you have for dominance.
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I'm going to say that freaking it out.
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I'm going to say everybody loves the dynasty when they're coming
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up, when they're at their peak or when they're at their their
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top form. That's when the next rider, the
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next group, the next Clippers or the Miami Heat or something like
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that, that's when they're going to be up and running, but be
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like, I'm going to take them down.
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That's when you have the target on your back.
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So I mean, maybe Ducati doesn't have a target on the back right
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now, but they've had their run. Honda's had their run.
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Y'all must have their run. I'm not saying Ducati hasn't had
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that run. They haven't.
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Been in Moto GP. Well, I mean, they're, they're
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at their peak right about now. And I mean, everybody's been
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following them for the past five years.
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So it's just, it's just just the way it is.
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This has been the worst race. This has been the worst season
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ever. I I wanted to see complete
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dominance because y'all, all of y'all had your dominance.
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And you know what, I'm going to shut up because I'm going to cut
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my nose off to spite my face. The fact that the other two
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Ducatis we're in the dumpster from the Moto GP God and I've
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got the the PEKKO and I got the PEKKO killer and I got the
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Marquez killer. Your team sucks bro.
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I mean, come and think of it. Look at it like Marquez won what
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in in Japan? And where was Pekko?
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Pekko was dead last. No, no, no, no.
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The whole weekend. Pekko won Japan and Pekko.
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Won Japan, but the one in the the the weekend after that.
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Yeah, Indonesia. Yeah, Indonesia, he was dead
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last. The whole, the whole Sprint
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race, Yeah, warm up the race, everything.
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He was dead last, I mean. But they all struggled.
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They all struggled, including Marquez.
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They all struggled. The only one that was the Alex
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was probably the, the, the better of them, but they all
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struggled. And and and that's, that's, and
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I'm not, you know, you know, and I think that's the thing, like
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the, the issues with Ducati, you know, it's starting to show with
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other writers. It's only so long.
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You can, you know, it's only so wrong.
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You could be Michael Jordan on a, on a, on a young Bulls team
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putting up 63. You can only do that for so
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long. And and I and I and you can we
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can see it because the all those guys struggled this past
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weekend. Yeah, but it's Mark.
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It's Mark Marquette's fault, right?
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But, but, but. No, no, no, it's Ducati's fault.
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Ducati hasn't, Ducati hasn't peaked yet, right?
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They've been trying, they've been there, but this was the
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year to set. We're, we are undisputed
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champions and now we're going to go to a different, different
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bike next season. It's it's like we're here.
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We we, we got to, we got to go one through 6.
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Well, I, I agree with you One I grew to one through I grew to
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one through 6. But I think they'll be happy,
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you know, with one through 8 and giving up two spots to some
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other riders. I mean, I think I still think
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that's that's that's really good for Ducati.
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And you know, the 25 bike, I've already been on record saying
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this is is probably the worst bike since the 2020 bike, which
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they did the style light team didn't use in 21.
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They had a 19 bike in 21 and you see Alex Marquez doesn't want a
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25 bike. I don't think any of these guys
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want a 25 bike for next year. Um, so there's something there
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and Marquez is is, you know, he's one of the top three riders
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we can do you can you can say what order he's in with the with
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Rossi and Agostini, although Agostini got 15.
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So like Wilk, you gotta you know, it is what it is he.
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Got he got 15 when there when there was no motorcycles and
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nobody watching. Right.
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Again, and not much padding in the Leathers either, right?
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So. I mean, you don't need padding
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on a 50CC super bike, come on. So you know what I mean?
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So he's able to do that, like Quatarara was able to do that
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with Yamaha. But we see Yamaha, but we see
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Quatarara now it's like how many times he has to crash or or get
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upset that he just can't. He doesn't have the power.
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So and I and I, and I think we saw that towards the latter end
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when Mark got hurt at, at Honda, you know, eventually it became
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unwritable for him. And like I said, we saw that and
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maybe he was to party too much and that's why he struggled at
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Indonesia because because of the, he won the championship the
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week before and had to do a lot of TV appearances and whatnot
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and whatnot. So I won't throw Mark under the
19:27
bus as far as saying the, you know, it's not completely
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unwriteable, but I think the ducat, there's something there
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and and it's and we see it more with Pekko.
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But you know, the other guys, they're, they're, they've been
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up and down and, and to say all that to say, they're still in
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the topic. So I mean, you know, it is what
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it is, but Ducati got to figure that out.
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Let me ask you a question. This is a serious question, not
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it's kind of a rhetorical question, but I don't think
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Mark, Mark, Mark has struggled this whole season.
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He threw the bike away. He threw the bike down.
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We you could, you could go back to our first five shows.
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He he was saving that bike. Still goes in the middle of the
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season. Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, so so I think this has been a very disappointing season
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for Ducati. Marquez should have won every
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race. So I don't think he saw the
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Ducati campaign, you know, they they showing a few different
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team members and engineers. But the point of it is like in
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one of the clip, it's just like we make it look easy, but it
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wasn't. And, and so you know, it, it,
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it's the, you know, when you're more prepared than the rest of
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the paddock doesn't mean it's, it's, it's easy, it just means
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you're more prepared. Hey, listen, man.
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Hey, listen, if I'm stroking that check, it's got to look
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easy, bud. It's got to look easy and it's
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got to be easy because for me to come with those millions of
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dollars, Jordan, for me to give you millions of dollars, that's
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not easy. Easy, brother you.
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You. Yes, I have.
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You were throwing that bike in the beginning of the season.
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Right now, Marquez should be have such a lead that he should
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get on the the the grid on a tricycle and race that that's
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how far we should be ahead. He should have took the last.
21:12
He should honestly be taking the last month off because the four
21:15
races that he dropped the bike and should have won, he's.
21:18
Taking the last month off no. No, no, it should have been
21:21
complete. Dominance.
21:22
Yeah. Well, again, I mean, it's it
21:26
doesn't work like that. And it didn't happen like that.
21:28
Some other riders won and and so, but it was close.
21:31
I mean, you know, he has the highest score.
21:34
He scored the highest points than any other rider in a
21:36
season. He's broke.
21:38
He's broken a lot of records for sure.
21:41
You know, he is hurt right now because he got taken out by
21:44
Bazecki in the last round and and I think something he got.
21:48
Spear. So.
21:49
So, yeah, yeah. That's always.
21:52
Well, well, well, they had different lines, man.
21:56
No, no, they got spear. Teammate.
21:58
What's his teammate? That That's all I'm pro.
21:59
What's his teammate? Martine.
22:02
Martine. Martine.
22:04
The Sparrow, no. No, no, no, no.
22:06
They were, they were, they were, they were on different lines.
22:09
And he? Was on different lines.
22:10
He came in hot, he came in hot and rear wheel wasn't even off
22:14
the ground. He speared him.
22:16
And, and, and well, he tried, he tried to keep it up himself, but
22:19
nonetheless, Martin Marquez had a long life penalty in the
22:23
Sprint race because he punted somebody out the way.
22:25
So let's let let let's you know what I'm saying.
22:28
Like, you know, that's why there's there's no, there's
22:30
nothing because, yeah, so, you know, it's, you know, Bazecki's
22:35
not that kind of writer, right? And, and it's unfortunate
22:39
because the the Prelia doesn't have a great start and we and
22:43
we've seen him struggle with that as well.
22:45
Maverick complained about it last year and stuff like that.
22:48
Alesh complained about it and we're seeing it and and, you
22:51
know, but, you know, if mobile deli did something like that,
22:54
I'll probably be like, I you know what I mean?
22:56
But like Bez, it it was a racing incident and you know
23:01
overzealous probably because you know when you when you're pole
23:05
position and you drop 5 positions or whatever you're
23:08
trying. To make it up in turn 1.
23:09
Yeah, you're trying. You're trying.
23:10
So what are your what are your thoughts, Mitty?
23:13
Kamikaze. No, I mean, look, I think it was
23:16
just like race, like race movement, you know what I'm
23:19
saying? It got a little bit too hot,
23:21
like you said, did a little too much.
23:23
But Bez, like you said, it's not a dirty rider at all.
23:26
And to add, we just I mean to to to like piggyback of what you
23:30
just said, not that Frankie's dirty, but Frankie is kind of
23:36
like erratic to had it been him? Oh yeah, Frankie, you know,
23:40
that's probably his writing style.
23:41
He's been penalized a lot before.
23:43
But Bez, not Bez, is a clean, normal rider.
23:46
So honest riding mistake. You know, it sucks that it
23:49
happened to get her, you know, after you get the damn trophy in
23:53
in your hand. But.
23:54
Right, no, it it definitely does.
23:58
It definitely does. Well, you guys thoughts on what
24:00
Honda is doing? They've been looking really good
24:02
lately and you know, the, the, the points don't show it, but I
24:06
I think they're them and Honda probably got the the best bikes
24:10
on the grid. They're slowly coming up.
24:14
They're they're finally getting their stuff together.
24:16
I don't know if they got a new mechanic or a new engineer, but
24:21
they've been slowly progressing with with grip.
24:26
I remember a lot of times they was arguing a lot about with
24:29
grip and I believe it was not turning, but I think it was
24:34
their their corner exit, which they wasn't getting a lot of
24:37
grip. It was getting, you know, real
24:39
good grip coming in, but coming out it was just kind of just
24:42
just sliding too much from and now they finally figured it out.
24:46
I don't know if it was if it was axle change or some maybe
24:49
simple, maybe a degree or two, who knows, But I think they've
24:54
actually found something to actually help them to solve that
25:00
issue. And we'll see how the points end
25:02
up right about now because it's still 10th and sooner.
25:08
So they still got some work to do.
25:10
But hopefully, you know, they can get it together and I'm with
25:13
some some better finishes. Nice shakes, I see you shaking
25:17
your head man. What your thoughts?
25:20
I know your team Ducati, so this might be tough even though you
25:22
got on a Yamaha gear, but you know Honda Brillia, what are you
25:28
thinking? The only thing Honda's done this
25:30
year, if you, if you take a satellite picture of Japan,
25:34
there are lighting tires to increase global warming, which
25:38
then gives us rain. And that's the only way Honda
25:41
could win if it rains. That's the only engineering that
25:45
they're doing over there. I've been I've been consistent
25:48
all season. They only could win in the rain.
25:50
That's it. The bike has no power.
25:52
We all know that. And, and if it didn't get the
25:55
flute winds in the rain and there wouldn't be a problem.
25:59
I think the real dark horse is not KTM because we've been on
26:03
this podcast, everybody said that KTM has the power.
26:09
It's a prillion. It's a prillion.
26:12
Nobody in their right mind thought this was going to
26:16
happen. Nobody thought this in their
26:19
right mind that this would happen.
26:21
No dude and and Bizeki. He's the only one outside of
26:25
Alex that challenged Mark. Well, I mean challenge running
26:31
the guy off the road the last round, but.
26:35
He did beat, he did beat Mark so.
26:38
Yeah, bad day I. Mean bad day is what it is the.
26:42
Sun was in his eyes, you know. What's?
26:46
Going on with that win. A win is a win, man.
26:48
You can't. We can't.
26:50
It's not. We're not going to do that.
26:51
The win is a win, no matter how you get it, because.
26:53
Whether in a wet or not. Yes, that's what she said.
27:01
Smitty, what are your thoughts man?
27:02
On Honda? You're a true Honda guy.
27:04
Honda Red. You know what?
27:07
What are your thoughts on how they doing?
27:09
Did you did you sit here and go? Man Mark should have stayed with
27:12
Honda when he won the title and Mia was on the on the podium
27:16
with him on a Honda. No, look, Mark had to make a
27:19
business decision. Honestly, man, it's safe.
27:22
In his mind, his safety was at risk.
27:25
I need a safer bike that a bike, you know, people got to push his
27:28
heart to win. So he left.
27:29
No hard feelings there at all. However, it's good to see Honda,
27:34
Honda making progress. You know, a couple of rounds
27:36
ago, I forgot what round, but they got some chassis upgrades,
27:39
things like that and they've been doing good since then.
27:42
They've been a consistent, you know, top five bike in the past
27:47
few rounds. So are you happy with what Luca
27:51
is doing? Because I mean, these are guys
27:52
you were mentioning, you know? Because I'm like, yo, this guy's
27:57
getting getting by on some like Roski's name almost, you know?
28:02
So he seemed like it. Yeah, he's he's his own man.
28:05
Honestly, he's doing great. So Luke over, he was tough.
28:08
He was fifth place in the past race and that's not bad at all,
28:12
you know, And let's say 5th. Crash and 7th so I mean it's not
28:16
bad. Say it again. 5th crash and then
28:20
7th. Yeah.
28:23
Not bad man, not bad so. Nice.
28:26
All right, I'm I'm, I'm looking forward.
28:27
Let's talk about KTMI know, like Shake says, they got the power.
28:32
They seem to be kind of somewhat a little bit all over the place.
28:36
I mean, you know, look, Acosta wants to win.
28:39
I'm pretty sure it burns him that that Alder gear won a race
28:43
before he did. So I I can't imagine that he's
28:48
flipping over tables after that. And it's, it's tough because,
28:53
you know, we see it in the NBA where, you know, people want to
28:56
win and they start looking at teams, other teams and moving
28:59
around and stuff like that. So I, you know, I know these
29:02
riders, they give 100 and 100% until, you know, they're out of
29:06
that contract or whatever the case may be.
29:08
But it got to be tough for, for, for Acosta's going through right
29:11
now because he's, he's close, You know, he's nipping at that
29:15
the podium. What?
29:17
What are your thoughts, Jordan? I mean, the last one he got
29:22
second place with. So I mean, they, they, they're,
29:25
they've been constantly making upgrades and constantly putting
29:30
that package together. They've been doing it for a
29:32
while. Not to say it's, it's due, but
29:36
you know, it takes time to develop a bike, the power, the
29:39
traction, the electronics, the geometry of it, the putting all
29:45
that stuff together, getting a rider on there that can really
29:47
push the limit without breaking the bike or without crashing.
29:51
So I mean, it, it's, it's really good that you got Pedro Costa
29:56
getting second then you know, besides all the gears getting,
30:01
getting, getting a win, you know, they've been making a lot
30:04
of progress. And mostly with that, that KTM
30:08
power that couple years ago people said that Ducati couldn't
30:13
handle, Ducati couldn't manage. Now KTM, once they've been doing
30:19
their their homework to say to actually be able to put that
30:22
power down eloquently and be able to manage that power and
30:28
doesn't take them three or four or five seasons to have that
30:31
same power, but to get everything else in line.
30:35
I think they're going to be really good in in the next year,
30:37
even though, like I said, you know, we're going to 880.
30:40
That's not a stupid story. Won't go down that rabbit hole.
30:43
But what I mean, they're, they're making strides and if
30:46
they can keep everything together, you know, they've
30:48
they've, they're, they're pretty good right about now. 11th and
30:53
was 11th and 15th, 11th and 16th, 11th and 16th, 11th and
31:00
16th. So I mean, not too, too bad, but
31:05
you know, yet it could have done a little bit better.
31:07
But like I said, you know, Ryder mistakes crash 11th, you crashed
31:13
again. It's like, you know, you got to,
31:15
you got to be consistent to, to, to be, to develop more.
31:20
And if they can do that, then I think they'll be you'll be all
31:22
right. I agree Smitty, it looks like
31:26
KTM is struggling with grip in the latest stages of races.
31:31
That's where they seem to kind of struggle and the bigger the
31:33
races they seem like they can push but it seems like it's grip
31:36
where the rear grip. It looked like the crashes that
31:39
Pedro have it like usually low side, so corner and grip.
31:44
You know, they got all that power, but you know, it they
31:48
still kind of struggling. I mean, it is it's probably
31:51
something very simple or maybe something maybe it's too much
31:53
power and then they haven't figured out how to control that
31:56
power and and it's just, you know, eating up the tires.
31:59
What are your thoughts? I don't know some, so I'm no
32:02
engineer, but I think having too much power, it's easy to tune it
32:06
down then then is to have too little power and try to find
32:12
more. So I don't think that's the
32:13
problem, honestly. But in terms of the KTM and the
32:18
struggles for, you know, I don't know.
32:21
But to piggyback and wait on what you just said, Pedro has
32:26
been running in the top 3 here and there and crashed or #1 in
32:30
practice and just, you know, couldn't keep that same pace
32:34
throughout the race. But it sucks that he's always so
32:37
close. And I guess in his mind, you
32:39
know, I'm still young and I'm losing, you know, to guys that
32:43
the guys like Mark Marquez and Alex Marquez and and veterans,
32:48
that's easy pill pill to swallow.
32:50
But losing to Ferwin out the gear a rookie.
32:54
Yeah. That would eat me up bad.
32:56
I'll be pissed about Pedro but that's like yo why is he doing
33:00
it as a rookie and you this is year 2 and you ain't do it yet.
33:03
And he, he, he came in like a superstar.
33:06
Alligator didn't. Right also.
33:09
Was, you know, Moto 3, Moto 2 coming in like it was business,
33:13
so. He was the next Rossi Marquez,
33:16
supposedly, You know what I'm saying?
33:18
Yeah, yeah, I agree. And and, you know, and and and
33:21
that didn't happen. So that and and he's not and
33:24
Aldigiz on a satellite team, not even I mean, he has a factory
33:27
contract, but he's still on a satellite 24 bike.
33:30
So yeah, it has to burn for sure, for sure.
33:34
Shakes, man, you know, you know you're, you're an engineer.
33:41
What tires do KTM use? The same tires as the rest of
33:46
the grid and. What tire brand is that?
33:49
What am I? What am I?
33:50
What is it? Michelin's?
33:51
There are Michelin's or Bridge Jones.
33:54
OK, well Pirelli has a thing that says what is power without
33:59
control? Change the tires then.
34:02
Yeah, I think they're on Michelins.
34:04
I got to, I got to, I got to hang on.
34:06
Let me bring the guys in. Somebody might know.
34:08
What are you? What are you on Michelins?
34:11
Yeah, so. And I agree with what Smitty
34:14
said. Hey, listen, it's always you can
34:16
control power. You can't find it.
34:19
And I believe if Bender wasn't throwing the bike in the gravel
34:23
every week, it seemed like for the first the whole the whole
34:26
season, the bikes and the gravels.
34:28
It's a yard sale. I actually went to Moto GP once
34:31
and after a Bender crashed I was able to get a fresh pair of
34:34
boots achieve. It's a yard sale, right?
34:37
Shit everywhere, right? Gloves, helmet, boots, pups.
34:42
It's crazy. It's crazy.
34:44
My buddy got my buddy at the last race.
34:46
My buddy got a racing helmet for like $3.
34:49
It's crazy, that inconsistency, it troubles the team and then it
34:56
puts more pressure on the lead guy, right?
34:59
It it it, Yeah, we do know you put on the suit by yourself, you
35:02
get on the bike by yourself. But you also need your team.
35:06
Don't smoke. You need your team to get you
35:08
across the finish line, right? It's like the Africans when
35:11
they're running the marathon, those five guys, those are just
35:14
the pace guys. They're just there to just to
35:17
break your will because they know the top guy is going to
35:20
take it home. And that's how racing is, right?
35:23
It's a tandem. I help you push, you help me
35:27
push, but you got to keep the bike upright because those
35:30
points add up as the season progresses.
35:33
So now when you look back and your teammates throwing the bike
35:35
and is having a yard sale every week, puts a lot of pressure on
35:39
you, takes you out of your game a little bit.
35:41
And I think that was a problem with KTMI.
35:43
Think that the whole team dynamic could have been a lot
35:46
better. I get it.
35:47
But the bankruptcy, non bankruptcy, Lewis Hamilton, no
35:51
Lewis Hamilton, BlackRock is going to give them 2 trillion.
35:55
They're buying Bitcoin now. All the rumors that could have
35:57
kept KTM afloat. I get it, there's a lot going on
36:01
in the paddock. But if we're going to be
36:04
consistent on the show, 1 man on the bike, one man on the grid,
36:08
one man on the podium. Let's go all.
36:10
Right, no team order. I like it.
36:14
Let's move over to unless somebody else has something to
36:16
say on in in Moto GP. Let's move over the world.
36:19
Super bike as guys know. Just Congrats to the rookie on
36:23
his first win, that's all. This is dope.
36:27
He's he's going to have many more to come because that boy
36:29
fast. You're a man of principle and
36:33
you're a gentleman. That's right.
36:36
And I agree with with with shakes.
36:40
I mean Bender the last couple of races has has barely even broke
36:46
10/12. He he got lucky and got a
36:49
fourth. I think that was his best
36:51
outgoing in GP in like 3 years. So I mean, like, dude, come on,
36:59
you know, not say is the the the best, but if you look at
37:02
Bastanini, you know, the beast was supposed to be, you know,
37:06
right along with, you know, upfront and he's crashing 11th
37:12
crashing, no podiums, no nothing.
37:15
So it's kind of like, you know, you, yeah, I don't know.
37:19
Hopefully they can get their stuff together.
37:20
It is best if not for sure on on a KTM.
37:23
So I mean, I think he gets a little pass, but they but
37:26
they're doing really well. Him and Maverick are doing
37:28
really well for being first year guys on the bike.
37:31
Same thing with with Bez because usually we see a bigger struggle
37:35
and and we're not seeing that. But let's talk about Top Rock
37:37
coming to Moto GP as you guys know, you know, what are your
37:41
thoughts on that? Is he going to be someone that
37:45
that might be in the top five in the first year?
37:48
Or you think he's going to hang out around 12 and, and, and, you
37:52
know, for the season just to get his feet wet?
37:54
We start with Smitty. I say he'll be probably around
37:58
10th ish because because coming to GP, as good as he is, it is a
38:03
whole different ball game. Like people think.
38:05
It's motorcycle, two wheels, throttle breaks the same.
38:08
No, it's just like driving a sports car versus a truck.
38:11
It's not the same experience at all.
38:14
And going by what Ben Speed said about his his experience, that
38:18
bike is so stiff. It's like riding a freaking, you
38:22
know, just a plain piece of steel.
38:24
You know, it has wheels on it and the adjustment is very
38:27
difficult. And we you rarely ever see it
38:30
happen. Now that guys come from, you
38:32
know, royal super bike and do well, it just doesn't happen
38:35
like that anymore. This is no longer the days of
38:38
Mickey Hayden and Ben Speeds and Connor Edwards doing it.
38:41
This is a different type of bike and I don't see him doing well.
38:44
As talented as he is, I don't see it.
38:48
Don't, don't tell Gonzalez that in Moto 2.
38:51
I mean, he might. He might get the Moto GPI.
38:54
Mean true Canada same Moto 2. That's not where you know where
38:59
a super bike, right? Same sport, yeah, but he came
39:02
from World Super Sport. OK, true, true.
39:07
He came from 300 Super Sport, then he came into World Super
39:12
Sport, and then he came over to the stiff chassis of Moto 2 and
39:16
he's fighting for the championship.
39:18
So you know, Jake Dixon came over from Super Sport as well
39:22
and you know, Jake has yet to fight for a championship.
39:25
Like how Gonzalez is doing this, and I believe it's Gonzalez the
39:28
second year, just to say he's one of the few.
39:30
He's really the only one that that's been able to do it and
39:35
and maybe get to Moto GP. So, you know, but but you're
39:40
right, normally there's not a lot of writers that has been
39:43
able to do it. And if they come into Moto GP,
39:46
you know, they might win a race in their career, they might get
39:49
on their podium, but they don't have the same dominance that
39:53
they haven't had the same dominance.
39:55
Obviously some writers have that You mentioned, I'm thinking, you
39:59
know, Cal and some of these guys that just, you know, they won
40:02
races and they were very competitive.
40:04
But we see the difference and, you know, so, yeah, yeah, you're
40:08
right about that. What are your thoughts, Jordan?
40:13
I'm glad you came to me because I do kind of agree with Smitty.
40:18
He'll be in the top 10, but I'm going to think if it's going to
40:20
be for a different reason. Hires, He's so used to having
40:27
the Pirelli's. He's been doing great with
40:29
Pirelli's with the Yamaha and the BMW.
40:34
Now he's going to Michelin's. Not just because of the bike,
40:37
because of the tires. I think they're switching the
40:40
Pirelli's, you know? Well, they're supposed to be.
40:43
I'm not going to go to the tires because everybody needs to
40:47
switch tires. Oh my gosh, Mode America need to
40:50
switch to Pirelli's. I'm I swear I'm not going to go
40:53
there, but I think they're supposed to be switching out
40:56
tires also, but hopefully they do hopefully the the tire ward
41:01
needs to come back. I think we said that on like one
41:03
of the first interviews me and you had.
41:06
It's just like they need to be a tire war that I won a tire war
41:09
back because. Yeah, because it's Michelin next
41:14
year, Pirelli 20. Minutes.
41:15
So I mean, it's going to be a little bit of a learning curve
41:19
for him. Not because of the machinery.
41:21
Yeah, World Super Bike has some top tier electronics.
41:26
That kind of company with Moto GP, not really Moto 2, Moto 3,
41:31
but kind of with Moto GP. But yeah, there's still some
41:34
learning curves that he's going to have to do.
41:36
He's know how to do that. You give it to him, let him ride
41:39
the bike 30-40, maybe 50 laps. He's going to tell you, hey,
41:43
this needs to change. That needs to change.
41:45
I'm good here. I'm not good there.
41:47
Fix this, fix that. Let me go back out and I'll show
41:50
you I can do better. He's that type of rider.
41:54
I mentioned something about Matt Mcladden couple years ago that
41:58
he can ride the bike, tell you what you need to do to it so
42:02
that he can do the lap times he wants to do.
42:05
You do that? He's doing the lap times he's
42:07
saying he's going to do and then sometimes even attempted to
42:10
more. So I'm just kind of like, he has
42:13
that skill, that talent that if you give him what he needs,
42:18
Sky's the limit. Right.
42:20
And he has a great teammate Jack Miller is going to be able to
42:23
teach you a lot as well. A.
42:26
Lot of experience. Yeah, Bobby shakes man.
42:28
What are your thoughts on? Go ahead, like sorry I cut you.
42:33
No, go ahead on on top rock coming to Moto GP.
42:37
Obviously it's a new market for Moto GP.
42:41
You know, his fan base is pretty huge in over in the Middle East
42:46
and and so I got to imagine that's good for for it's going
42:49
to be great, really good for Moto GP.
42:51
Hey, listen man, I used to sit on my couch.
42:53
I watched football and they do the kickoff and I would see
42:57
these idiots drop the kickoff and I go, I could do that.
43:02
So I went to an XFL exhibition and I the only thing, the only
43:05
position I could play was kick return catching, catching that
43:11
ball off a kicker's foot. It's like trying to catch a
43:17
razor blade. You have to catch it with all
43:19
hands and you got to be a dog. So it looks easy on television
43:25
to actually do it with top rack. He's not a poser, as we know.
43:31
The suspension is tighter, The bike is stiff.
43:34
It only bends. You got to be on it.
43:37
And Top Rock is that dog. He's going to be on that bike
43:41
and we've seen it. No Fear.
43:43
He's going to use the suspension.
43:46
I think he's going to. I know the tire, like we say,
43:48
power dog, the dog control. I think he's going to adjust.
43:51
I think he's a dog. I think he's crazy.
43:54
I think he's crazy and I think he's nuts.
43:56
And and the only thing that's going to stop top rack is top
43:59
rack. And it's I know it looks easy,
44:02
man, when you're watching these guys on Moto GP looks easy when
44:07
you're sitting down drinking a soda.
44:10
But he's a different guy. I agree with Jordan.
44:12
He's a different, different guy. So put him in 8th place, the
44:19
guys going to go one through 6 again and then pull some shit
44:24
out of his ass. So put him in.
44:29
Smitty, what are your thoughts on Jonathan Ray retiring, you
44:34
know, at the end of the season? I think there's a couple more
44:36
rounds Esterrell this weekend. Shout out to Bobby Fong who's
44:40
going to be racing this round and next round with the Tak
44:44
Yamaha team. Wish them the best.
44:46
What are your thoughts about Johnny Ray?
44:48
You know, six time world title for world super bike, the most
44:52
the most in a row and the most overall.
44:56
He had three with Honda, right? Something like that I think it
44:58
was. No, no, no.
44:59
All all Kawasaki. I forgot, but yeah, right, he's
45:04
a legend and simple as that. He's the best to ever do it in
45:07
World Super bike. It's a shame he didn't really
45:09
get a real shot at riding Moto GP, you know, which sucks also,
45:16
but I mean, and also what sucks is I hate seeing champions like
45:21
great players, and this is all sports.
45:24
Like the last couple years it washed up.
45:27
I hate seeing that, you know, like I like, like I enjoy seeing
45:30
guys who are great leaving the prime, like Barry Sanders, you
45:34
know, retired early. Everybody hated.
45:35
That too early, Too early. Too early.
45:39
He left when he wanted to and he was when he left too early.
45:42
Instead of being like Emma Smith going to the Cardinals and like
45:45
with that, you get 2 yards of carry.
45:47
You see that? You think Barry Sanders didn't
45:50
want to at least didn't think for one, Like maybe I could have
45:53
played one, say a little bit longer.
45:54
You think Casey Stoner didn't go?
45:56
Maybe I should have. I mean, obviously he had health
45:58
reasons. Maybe not.
46:00
But. You know it.
46:02
It's the thing with the thing with motorcycles, motorcycle
46:06
race and basketball or any physical sport you're against
46:10
for all the time. If you're if you, if you're a
46:12
musician, you can take time off. If you're an actor or whatever,
46:15
you can take time off and and find your way back.
46:18
But when you're in your prime, you have to be 1 with God when
46:24
you walk away because, you know, we saw Michael Jordan struggled
46:28
when he came back, so you know what I mean?
46:31
And I hated seeing Rossi last two years.
46:33
It just it just looked like. Yeah, the mic, the Yamaha was
46:37
bad. It wasn't Rossi.
46:38
No, I was here, man. No man, the mic was bad.
46:41
Come on. Like because he was saying
46:43
morbidly was struggling. He was struggling, but Rossi
46:46
wasn't. Wasn't even the best Yamaha when
46:49
he was riding. The years Rossi won in Rossi got
46:54
on the podium in 2018, all right, and I think he left what
46:57
so the last three years that that bike was struggling, man,
47:00
the Yamaha was struggling and. And even but OK, but but let's
47:05
say you know the bike was bad. It still looks bad seeing him
47:08
running 15 place by himself, you know, Reasons are not regardless
47:13
if it's him or the bike, knowing who he was, it just don't look
47:17
right seeing him in the back of the pack of that, you know,
47:19
yellow and blue bike and Patronus bike.
47:23
It didn't look good, you know. Yeah, I mean, it's tough because
47:25
I see Venus out there playing now and I like seeing her play.
47:29
You know, I'm rooting for her. So I don't know.
47:32
I mean, I get, I get what you're saying from a fan perspective.
47:35
You, you want, you don't. You don't want your, your, your
47:39
the the the people you look up to to look like look normal.
47:43
Yeah, it's like seeing Jerry Rush playing for the Seahawks.
47:47
It was terrible, Randy Moore. So the Titans and the Niners was
47:49
horrible, man. I like seeing that.
47:52
You know, I, I get, I get what you're saying there for sure.
47:56
How are you thinking, Jordan? You feel the same way.
47:58
Walk out on top or don't. Don't stay too long in the party
48:03
that you know you don't want to go out with the lights when they
48:05
shut the lights off at the after party.
48:08
Shut the lights out on you and you're stuck on a dance floor by
48:11
yourself where everybody go. I mean, I think Johnny had a
48:19
very good run. My bad, my bad.
48:23
I'm jacking you. Oh, it's all good, it's all
48:25
good, it's all good. Not to say that he tapped out
48:27
too early or even too late, you know, after his sixth run and
48:34
you know, everybody else started catching up to him.
48:38
Not say Kawasaki was doing something spectacular.
48:40
I don't know what, they put some in their gas tank or something.
48:44
But Johnny was just just doing a daggone thing.
48:47
He was just on money every single race, every single time,
48:53
every lap. And no one could could answer
48:57
that. So once everybody started, I
49:00
don't know, getting his number, you know, figuring out whatever
49:04
he was doing, started catching him every little 10th here and
49:07
there. And then, you know, top rack
49:10
being top rack, you know, he's he's top rack.
49:14
He's an alien. I don't know if everybody's
49:17
heard that term before, but he's an alien.
49:20
You've you've gotten really nothing for that.
49:24
Even Bautista. Bautista got lucky, got a
49:28
championship, didn't hold on to it for too longer, but he got a
49:32
championship out of that. You got 2, you know we got
49:35
another. Well, he wouldn't go
49:36
back-to-back though. He go back-to-back.
49:40
He went 19 and 20, didn't go 1921.
49:43
No, he got because it was it was it it, it was Top Rock that got
49:48
it on to Yamaha, then then Bautista went back-to-back, and
49:51
then Top rack. I thought it was.
49:53
I thought it was top rack, Bautista, top rack again.
49:57
We'll look at it later on. But since we got back-to-back,
50:00
when Pekko got back-to-back. OK, So I mean not so he got
50:05
lucky. I'm not going to say that, I'll
50:06
retract that. But I mean, with that happening
50:10
and then top rack switching off, I mean, like I said, the whole
50:15
thing has just been like, you know, either you adjust whether
50:20
it's the biker yourself. No, it was it was definitely the
50:23
bike. I don't know if you caught the
50:25
video video podcast with Ray and a Top Rock was on it and Alex
50:31
Lowe's was on it and Alex was saying, you know, like I.
50:34
Missed that one. I missed that one.
50:36
I'm I'm finishing 10th on Akawi and, and, and he's finishing on
50:41
on the podium or for the win. And I'm sitting here like we're
50:44
on the same bike. Like how is he making this bad
50:46
bike? You know, you know, do work.
50:49
You know what I mean? And, and so, you know, but I
50:51
think it's the same thing. Eventually these guys like
50:54
Marquez, at at some point the white becomes too bad for them.
50:58
Maybe it's just that you don't want to take the same risk.
51:01
You know, I I'm I'm obvious. And he did get hurt with the
51:03
Yamaha when he switched to Yamaha.
51:05
So I think for him, you know, that recovery at an old age, you
51:09
know, as he, as he mentioned, you know what, you know, like
51:11
watching his kids and stuff like that.
51:13
And, and, you know, and, and he even said this, he's like, you
51:17
know, there was one time where he where he crash or some crash
51:21
that he had, I forget which, which, which race it was that he
51:23
crashed. And, and you know, and he's just
51:25
like, you know, he thought of, you know, not being there for
51:28
his kids. So all of a sudden he's also
51:30
thinking, you know, like I can be hurt.
51:32
So you know, once, once, once you once you can't lock in and
51:35
give 100% motorcycle race in like you, you you have to walk
51:39
away at that. Point.
51:39
And I think that's what it was, and I agree with you.
51:41
I think that's what it was. It's like, you know, he had the
51:43
hyperbaric chamber in his house because he wanted to try to heal
51:48
and recover as fast as he could to get back onto the bike.
51:51
And then once he got back onto the bike, he still wasn't where
51:55
he I get wanted to be at and where he expected to be at.
51:59
And it's kind of like, OK, I'm going to give him my best.
52:02
I'm going to give him my best shot because I want to give the
52:04
best to my fans, to my family, to the sport.
52:07
He's very sport conscious of of world super bike and everybody
52:11
in it. So once that happens, it's kind
52:13
of like, you know, I got to tap out and that's, that's pretty
52:17
much what he did. So I mean, not saying he didn't
52:19
give 100%, he gave 120% to the support.
52:24
And you know, I wish him best of luck and hopefully he does a
52:28
whole bunch of coaching to the Yamaha group because I believe
52:32
that's what he's going to contract for right about now.
52:35
I saw him doing something with the USA Yamaha school here.
52:40
I don't want to say their name because they're not going to get
52:42
any monetization from us. So but he's been doing some
52:46
coaching and stuff with them. So who knows, We may see him
52:48
here on the West Coast. I believe he actually has a, a
52:52
Airbnb or a house here in California.
52:54
So I think, I think he tapped down him in a perfect time.
52:58
Yeah, and, and he also said he didn't want to, he didn't want
53:00
like, like Spitty, you know, wanting to see the top guys go
53:04
out. He didn't he, he wasn't
53:05
comfortable sitting at sitting around 10th or 11.
53:07
He's like, if I'm not fighting for the podium, I like I I don't
53:10
want to be out here. Time to check out exactly.
53:13
So there is that as well. Bobby shakes man, you know, I I
53:17
know you know who Jonathan Ray is made Cowie a lot of money for
53:22
sure, because you know, everybody wants a Cowie.
53:25
You know, 1000 to like the the ZX10R.
53:29
You know, people love that bike. What are your thoughts?
53:31
I mean, you know, one of the greats walking away from the
53:33
sport as far as racing. Just going to take my hat off to
53:37
him and his career. My issue with motorcycle racing
53:41
and car racing is, is different from basketball and football and
53:48
everything else. Those are more physical sports,
53:51
right? So you could heal quicker.
53:55
Racing, it starts to deteriorate your cognitive, you, you, you,
54:00
you. You're just not seeing the track
54:03
anymore. Like there's just this breakdown
54:06
and and and we're just seeing it.
54:08
And I think once you once the cognitive starts to break down,
54:11
once the brain starts breaking down the G forces, people don't
54:16
understand that that part of racing is the nasty part about
54:20
racing, right. When you see in Hamilton in the
54:23
F1 car, it's, it's, it's like he has a disease now, like you
54:28
can't you lose it over time more quickly than other sport?
54:35
And I think once your cognitive starts to go, it's time to go
54:39
because you, you're not seeing the game anymore.
54:42
When we talk about football and basketball, there's only so many
54:45
things that can happen within that game, right?
54:48
You've seen all the plays, you know everything.
54:50
You know the defense, you know the offense, you know
54:52
everybody's skills. Been playing for a long time
54:54
with motorcycle racing. It your, your nervous system
54:58
starts to break down and then when you have these young bloods
55:02
coming who could see the track like it's hats off to him in his
55:07
career at that part of the racing needs to be highlighted
55:10
more just like getting on a bike and learn how to ride.
55:13
It's the strength training, the neck training, core training,
55:17
all that stuff that is crazy. Like I took my son for an an ear
55:22
infection and they gave this a go.
55:24
This is like a, we're putting you through an F1 balance test,
55:28
right? Like we, we don't think about
55:31
that. The balance in your eardrum, the
55:33
loud noise, the paddock, all that stuff start to deteriorate.
55:38
And that's what's sad about that sport, that it happens
55:41
overnight. Like Michael Jordan, you saw the
55:44
decline slowly. The motorcycle racing, it's like
55:49
115 overnight. You're like what the fuck?
55:53
It's hats off man. Love you and and all you need to
55:56
do is be a couple of tenths off right.
55:58
You like you don't need to be much.
56:00
And so that's the other part. It's like, you know, it just
56:03
it's just a little bit and that then over the course of laps
56:06
obviously adds up and and it's tough.
56:09
You're absolutely right. And don't get me wrong, they
56:11
they need to be like a senior league, like like some of these
56:14
other car racing and stuff like that or golf tournaments where,
56:18
you know, some of these guys can still ride.
56:19
Maybe they're on, you know, prototype whatever kind of
56:23
bikes, you know, But it it it's still, you know, like the the
56:28
sport does a pretty good job of celebrating the Champions, but
56:33
it can like I think that if people would sign up to go watch
56:36
that senior. A senior world world world super
56:43
bike. Yeah.
56:44
I mean, yeah, because you look at they got the senior, they got
56:47
the seniors TT. Chichi.
56:49
Yeah. So you know, they're not slow
56:51
just because it's called senior, right?
56:54
You know what I'm saying? So, you know, and, and at least
56:58
some of these guys can ride around the age, so everybody
57:01
will be kinder at the same speed, sort of speak, right.
57:04
And and and still, you know, you get to still see these like it'd
57:07
be nice to see Casey race, right?
57:09
I don't know if he'd want to, but it'd be nice to see him race
57:11
and and some of these other guys, you know, come out and
57:13
race. That's that's a business pitch
57:17
to Dubai. Dubai.
57:19
We just pitched you something. Just I heard that Tom Brady's
57:21
playing flag football in Dubai about a trillion dollars.
57:24
I don't know if that's true or not.
57:25
Maybe we can pitch Dubai to have a Seniors Cup.
57:29
No, honestly, what I want to see like a four round exhibition
57:33
race between our top ten riders in the States versus the top 10
57:39
BFB riders. Well, there you go.
57:41
There you go. Yeah.
57:44
Like like a world, like a World Cup.
57:46
Two rounds in the States, two rounds in the UKI would love to
57:48
see that one. Day.
57:50
Yeah, I remember Bradley Smith is still here.
57:53
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But not not that that, you know,
57:56
like a World Cup would be would be cool 2 riders, you know, and
57:58
then then it's just the states that I mean, the countries that
58:01
are pushing the riders forward, you know, that'll be kind of
58:04
cool. I mean, the Spanish and Italians
58:06
might win it all for the first few years, but.
58:08
You know, I don't think so. I don't think so either.
58:11
I don't think so either. Like, Bradley's still here in
58:18
the West Coast, so I mean, we can make that happen to a couple
58:21
phone calls all. Right.
58:23
Gotta call Wayne Rainey, man Make it happen.
58:25
Man, yeah, for real. There you go, both them.
58:28
Together and send it off to Dubai.
58:30
Let's get let's get this thing cracking.
58:32
Well, you know, just like Wednesday, the room room show
58:35
is, is, is coming to a close for tonight and it, it's nice to
58:39
have you guys back on and chopping it up and hearing your
58:42
point of views in Moto GP and world super bike.
58:45
And you know this, you know we'll we'll start the senior
58:48
World Cup of motorcycle racing. I'm a senior.
58:55
My name is Rex 45. We got Smitty's from Smit Shot
58:58
Racing. We got Jordan Long in the
59:00
building from Jordan Long Racing.
59:02
We got Bobby Shakes, the one and only.
59:04
He's everywhere, doing everything.
59:06
Peace. Adios, uh.