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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 138 | Jaguars Free Agency Haul + Draft Hot Takes · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: What we were seeking to do in pro free agency
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Speaker 1: was to raise the four this football team, and every
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Speaker 1: player that we pursued and that we've now acquired is
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Speaker 1: meeting that standard and by being nothing more than who
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Speaker 1: they are and who we know them to be, both
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Speaker 1: on and off the field, they're gonna do exactly what
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Speaker 1: we would hope they do, and that's level up this ecosystem.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to Dad, Jam, I'm kind Annie Stephens, Brian Sexton,
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Speaker 2: John Osier with me today as we're gonna go over
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Speaker 2: appropriate agency that went official last week, and we're gonna
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Speaker 2: do a sneak peak of the draft coming up as well.
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Speaker 2: Let's go through our big things today. For you. First
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Speaker 2: big thing, it's gonna be intangibly rich. That's something we've
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Speaker 2: heard from general manager James Gladstone throughout this process. Brian,
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Speaker 2: there's ninety players coming into town. Not all of them
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Speaker 2: are huge names, but a lot of this is about
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Speaker 2: getting in guys here that they know they can work
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Speaker 2: with or they've worked with before and kind of set
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Speaker 2: the standards for things.
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Speaker 3: You know, Ky, that was my favorite phrase from Gladstone's
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Speaker 3: introductory press conference, and he used another one there ecosystem,
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Speaker 3: which is another word for culture, and he was looking
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Speaker 3: to bring in guys who would change the tenor of
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Speaker 3: the building in subtle ways just by the way they
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Speaker 3: go about their business. And obviously he and Liam Cohen
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Speaker 3: both had some ties to these guys, some of the
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Speaker 3: other coaches on the staff did. And I love the
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Speaker 3: fact that he said it, and he made the promise
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Speaker 3: that was what they were going to do, and he
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Speaker 3: delivered in free agency. And John, I know you think
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Speaker 3: about this because you've been hammering this team for years
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Speaker 3: about what they do in free agency, about spending, and
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Speaker 3: they went a completely different way.
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Speaker 4: They spent moderate spending on the guys who are gonna
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Speaker 4: be starters, the two offensive linemen, Jommy Brown, a receiver,
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Speaker 4: Jordan Lewis, guys like that. Beyond that, they went after
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Speaker 4: what Gladstone thinks of as these intangibly rich guys. I
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Speaker 4: don't you know, ecosystem is culture, intangibly rich. I'm still
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Speaker 4: getting my arms around exact what that means. But I
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Speaker 4: think here's the thing, h James Gladstone knows what it means.
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Speaker 4: He knows what he's looking for. He has the ability
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Speaker 4: to enunciate that to everybody else, to make sure that
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Speaker 4: they know what he's looking for. He's always thinking about it.
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Speaker 4: He's always bringing in that type of guy. And I
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Speaker 4: think it is significant that a lot of these guys
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Speaker 4: are with the Vikings, with the Buccaneers, with the Rams,
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Speaker 4: places where Liam Cohane and James Gladstone, I mean, James
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Speaker 4: Gladstone and Grant Yudinsky have been before.
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Speaker 3: There's a familiarity there.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Our second big thing today is gonna be open spots. Now.
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Speaker 2: Certain were targeted and free agency. We saw a lot
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Speaker 2: of offensive lines some players coming in there, but not
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Speaker 2: so much on the other side of football in terms
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Speaker 2: of the edge or pass rushers there. But James Gladstone
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Speaker 2: address up.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we got ten picks in this year's draft. We're
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Speaker 5: gonna have to have some spots that are actually open
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Speaker 5: for them to insert. So, you know, if you add
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Speaker 5: a veteran at this point could be just.
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Speaker 1: Standing in the way. We're gonna allow these rookies to,
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Speaker 1: you know, get a chance to get out on the
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Speaker 1: field and help us this coming fall, perhaps stoking the.
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Speaker 2: Fire a little bit there. Obviously, John, we don't know
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Speaker 2: exactly what they're gonna do with the draft, but we
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Speaker 2: know any successful team is built through the draft, So
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Speaker 2: talking a little bit about drafting and having them play
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Speaker 2: right away, that's clearly gonna be a focus for this team.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think the places that were left during
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Speaker 4: the you know, left of field or in the draft,
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Speaker 4: third edge rusher. I'll talk about it later, but I
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Speaker 4: think they still need a receiver in that front group. Secondary.
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Speaker 4: They're all places, Brian, where they have their starters, their
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Speaker 4: rotational positions. There are places where guys play a lot.
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Speaker 4: That next nickelback, the next receiver in the rotation, the
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Speaker 4: next edge rusher, you can go get them. If the
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Speaker 4: draft falls your way, you might see the first edge
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Speaker 4: you know, the third edge rusher be the five overall pick.
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Speaker 4: If it doesn't go that way, edge rusher, guess what,
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Speaker 4: that's usually a guy that you can pick up a
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Speaker 4: veteran in June. There's some guys that you can pick
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Speaker 4: up after the draft in those spots and rotate. So
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Speaker 4: I think that's sort of the spirit of this. You
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Speaker 4: don't want to fill spots where you bring in a
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Speaker 4: guy who you draft and you can't play, but you
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Speaker 4: want to make sure that guy has an opportunity to
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Speaker 4: develop at the right pace.
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Speaker 3: Our habit in the media is to focus on the
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Speaker 3: first round pick right at number five, And at number five,
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Speaker 3: the Jaguars could go any number of directions. There will
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Speaker 3: be a top cornerback available, there will be a top
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Speaker 3: defensive tackle available. The pass rusher from Georgia behind a
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Speaker 3: dual carter from p State is likely to be sitting
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Speaker 3: there available, and any number of offensive linemen, whether the
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Speaker 3: Campbell kid from LSU or the Membu from a Missouri
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Speaker 3: young man. There's a lot of opportunities at five. But
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Speaker 3: what about where you're picking in the second round and
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Speaker 3: the third round, where you have two picks, you can
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Speaker 3: find really good offensive lineman. You can find really good
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Speaker 3: football players across the spectrum sitting on Day two, Night two,
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Speaker 3: in round two and three, and I'd love it if
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Speaker 3: we could focus some there. It's harder to project because
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Speaker 3: you don't know exactly as you start getting into one
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Speaker 3: hundred players where everybody fits in, what teams think about them.
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Speaker 3: But when you look at where the Jaguars are picking
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Speaker 3: in round two, in round three, Ky, they're going to
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Speaker 3: have the chance to fill a number of spots.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, They're gonna have a ton of flexibility there, which
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Speaker 2: will be good to see. Our final big thing today
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Speaker 2: is going to be forward focus. We talked a lot
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Speaker 2: in the off season about what a rebuilt here is
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Speaker 2: going to look like, whether it be a quick or
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Speaker 2: more longer term thing. As we're seeing the lay of
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Speaker 2: the ground work now, Brian, does it feel like it's
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Speaker 2: not necessarily as much a focus as doing this in
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Speaker 2: a year as doing it the correct way.
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Speaker 3: Well, here's the beautiful part about it. They are focused
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Speaker 3: on doing it the right way, and in doing it
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Speaker 3: the right way with the players that are here, there's
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Speaker 3: a chance for them to get right back into that
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Speaker 3: eight to nine win category, which in the AFC South
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Speaker 3: I believe would put them in the running for the
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Speaker 3: division title. Are they going to do that this year?
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Speaker 3: I don't know, But there's the short term ability if
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Speaker 3: the quarterback raises his level of play for them to
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Speaker 3: be able to capitalize in the first year of a
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Speaker 3: long term vision. If you go and talk to Liam
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Speaker 3: or James or Tony, they're gonna tell you we want
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Speaker 3: to win this year, but they're also going to say,
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Speaker 3: but our focus is on a three to five year plan,
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Speaker 3: so that when the stadium is up and running, we've
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Speaker 3: got a long term, sustainable, winning football team to fill
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Speaker 3: this building and to build pro football. I think you
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Speaker 3: can do both.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think clearly that's what free agency is about.
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Speaker 4: Le Get guys in who will. As James Glaston said,
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Speaker 4: raise the floor gets you better at some spots where
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Speaker 4: you felt like you were weak. I'm not gonna lean
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Speaker 4: too much of this offseason. In fact, they lost so
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Speaker 4: many close games last year, but there is a thought, hey,
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Speaker 4: get that floor up. Win a few of those close games.
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Speaker 4: All of a sudden, you're back to five hundred. If
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Speaker 4: the quarterback improves, if he develops, which is, you know,
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Speaker 4: at its core, the whole thing. If he doesn't, then
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Speaker 4: not a lot of his other stuff matters for next year.
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Speaker 4: If he does, then you're in good shape. But I
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Speaker 4: think the moves they've made can get you back to
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Speaker 4: what Brian talked about, that nine win playing in December
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Speaker 4: for something, and maybe you get a lot better than
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Speaker 4: you thought you were going to be.
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Speaker 3: But it's about.
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Speaker 4: Sustainable, you know, three to five years. Yes, they believe
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Speaker 4: this is supposed to be about sustainable for the long
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Speaker 4: term future.
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Speaker 2: All right, stay with us here on Jack's Samill hear
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Speaker 2: from some of those new free agents and why they
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Speaker 2: chose to come to Jacks.
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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of new potential and opportunities here,
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Speaker 3: you know.
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Speaker 6: I think looking at the roster, looking at the coaches,
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Speaker 6: hearing what they're trying to do here, that's something I
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Speaker 6: wanted to be a part of a change, you know,
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Speaker 6: and I hope I could do my part.
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Speaker 3: I want to do my part.
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Speaker 7: I want to win football games and.
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Speaker 5: Get that done.
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Speaker 2: Nine new players, McCary coming from the Ravens. He's played
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Speaker 2: all five offensive line positions, and we talk a lot
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Speaker 2: about culture, changing, the ecosystem, whatever you want to call it.
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Speaker 2: I'm excited. I'm most excited to see what the offensive
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Speaker 2: line room kind of turns into. Obviously when you get
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Speaker 2: a good turnover of players there. There were some great
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Speaker 2: players there before Mitch Morse retiring. Of course, Brandon Sheriff
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Speaker 2: becoming a free agent this year, so I think things
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Speaker 2: will be different this year, and we want to start there.
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Speaker 2: We've talked about the trenches for months and months and months,
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Speaker 2: so to kind of set the tone there and be
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Speaker 2: able to kind of redo that room. Excited to see it.
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Speaker 3: You know, you're taking a player out of the ecosystem,
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Speaker 3: he's in, but they bring with them part of the Ravens.
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Speaker 3: Back in the day, Tom Coffin liked to sign Steelers
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Speaker 3: right because he liked the mentality. Leon Searusly brought a lot.
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Speaker 3: Dion Figures, the cornerback, brought a lot to that side
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Speaker 3: of the ball. I'm excited for McCary. It was an
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Speaker 3: undrafted rookie who started all along the line and earned
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Speaker 3: this big contract. But because the Ravens have a sustained
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Speaker 3: culture of winning, you know, you don't always think about them.
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Speaker 3: Although in recent years with Lamar Jackson, you know, they've
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Speaker 3: been deep into the playoffs. But if you go back
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Speaker 3: to nineteen ninety seven, their first year in Baltimore, since then,
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Speaker 3: there were some rocky years early, they've been one of
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Speaker 3: the winning his franchises in football. They're just quietly consistent,
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Speaker 3: and this guy looks like one of those players that
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Speaker 3: goes about his business in the right way, in that
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Speaker 3: Raven way. Is something you'd like to see of here
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Speaker 3: in Jacksonville.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know that in terms of, you know,
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Speaker 4: the sacred pff raids that this line is going to
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Speaker 4: be that much, you know, better individually than the line before.
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Speaker 4: But I think it's going to have a different feel
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Speaker 4: and a different mentality. It clearly the idea, get this
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Speaker 4: team to be able to run on third and short. Better,
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Speaker 4: get this team to run when it matters better, and
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Speaker 4: then if you do that, it sets up so much
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Speaker 4: in the passing game, all the football one on one stuff.
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Speaker 4: I think that is what you're you're looking for out
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Speaker 4: of Hainsey and McCary. Can they bring you a little
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Speaker 4: bit more of an edge where you feel more confident
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Speaker 4: in that must run and Kay, you and I watched
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Speaker 4: games in the press box for the last two years.
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Speaker 4: How many times have I looked at you and said, boy,
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Speaker 4: third and one seems like a long way. They need
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Speaker 4: to have that feel shorter.
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Speaker 3: That's this offensive line's job.
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Speaker 2: And I think that we talk about that feeling a lot.
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Speaker 2: You want to be able to be confident in that.
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Speaker 2: Right we're upstairs thinking that, I don't think they're going
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Speaker 2: to get it.
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Speaker 4: Well. Defensive coordinators pick up on that, and so you
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Speaker 4: change your defense when you know the other team doesn't
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Speaker 4: feel confident running and you can stop that.
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Speaker 3: When you can't do that.
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Speaker 4: It limits your play calling so much offensively if they're
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Speaker 4: better there.
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Speaker 3: Brian they're better everywhere. Listen, I know the quarterback is
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Speaker 3: the number one story, but one b is the offensive
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Speaker 3: line giving him a running game that to me is
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Speaker 3: as important. In fact, that may be the reason that
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Speaker 3: he develops this year, is if they've got the ability
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Speaker 3: to convert on third and short or just to be
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Speaker 3: able to run the ball consistently. If you go back
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Speaker 3: and look at what Liam Cohen did last year. In
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Speaker 3: his year with the Buccaneers, they were a bottom five
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Speaker 3: running game. In twenty twenty three, they were a top
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Speaker 3: five running game in twenty twenty four. They did get
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Speaker 3: the rookie running back who came in and contributed in
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Speaker 3: a big way, but they also had the same offensive line.
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Speaker 3: I guess a rookie center step didn't played pretty well too.
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Speaker 3: You can make some changes, you can massage things, and
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Speaker 3: if you could get these guys from bottom of the
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Speaker 3: league on third down and short to somewhere in the
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Speaker 3: middle of the pack, that would be a huge jump on.
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Speaker 2: The opposite side of the fall. One of the bigger
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Speaker 2: signings Jordan Lewis coming from the Cowboys as a cornerback.
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Speaker 2: Just the tone he's going to set as a trash
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Speaker 2: talker of course, but also just in general with the defense.
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Speaker 2: He talked a little bit about why ch was Jacksonville.
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Speaker 7: We were talking about, you know, just building the culture,
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Speaker 7: you know, and being a a a cornerstone of that
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Speaker 7: that that rebuilding. I've always wanted to be a guy
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Speaker 7: to you know, be known for that, you know, be
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Speaker 7: known for a culture, and be known to you know,
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Speaker 7: change culture. So I I I love a a good
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Speaker 7: competition and I love a good challenge. So I feel
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Speaker 7: like this was the perfect place for me to go
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Speaker 7: out there and show that I belong in the NFL
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Speaker 7: and belonged and to be as one, you know, known
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Speaker 7: as one of the guys that you know, changed the culture.
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Speaker 2: Johnny think it always can be a little bit telling
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Speaker 2: when you see what the former fan base has to
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Speaker 2: say about him. And I think just the general vibe
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Speaker 2: that I'm getting, at least from what Cowboys fans are
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Speaker 2: saying and in media that cover him, is you know,
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Speaker 2: he's worked for and earned every little bit, and that
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Speaker 2: his role in the defense in Dallas was really underrated
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Speaker 2: in the way that he kind of held everything together there.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a good player and he makes plays on
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Speaker 4: the ball, and I think more than anything. Lewis and
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Speaker 4: Murray they needed guys they trusted back there. They're clearly
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Speaker 4: not going to be here in twenty twenty eight, right
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Speaker 4: they're older players. Maybe they will be, but the odds
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Speaker 4: are there not. So they are guys who you feel
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Speaker 4: better about lining up with immediately. There are a lot
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Speaker 4: of misassignments last year in the secondary, some scheme stuff whatever.
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Speaker 4: They felt like they needed to get more solid back
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Speaker 4: there and have more guys they could trust.
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Speaker 3: Jordan Lewis's I even trust. If you want an indication
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Speaker 3: of his ability to change the culture, he just showed you.
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Speaker 3: He just said it to you. He's a guy who
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Speaker 3: wants to prove that he belongs in the NFL. He's
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Speaker 3: been in the NFL for eight years, right, He played
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Speaker 3: at Michigan and for the Dallas Boys the last twelve years.
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Speaker 3: This is a guy or eleven years. This is a
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Speaker 3: guy who has belonged on the biggest stage for a
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Speaker 3: very long time, and yet he still feels the need
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Speaker 3: to remind you that he wants to prove himself.
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Speaker 2: I like that.
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Speaker 3: I like that kind of guy on the back end,
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Speaker 3: because you've got to do that every single play, regardless
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Speaker 3: of what happened to play before, but they need an
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Speaker 3: injection and infusion of that in this locker room.
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Speaker 2: As we talk about the scene, we always say it
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Speaker 2: will go as Trevor goes. So focus on the quarterback
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Speaker 2: is going to be huge this year. Of course, Swilliam
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Speaker 2: Cohen was brought in, but Micmullins also coming in quarterback,
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Speaker 2: having worked with Grant Yedinsky in Minnesota before, so it
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Speaker 2: kind of knows the system. Excited to get to work
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Speaker 2: with Trevor.
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Speaker 8: He's done a lot of really successful things. He shot
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Speaker 8: every tool in the bag that you need to be successful.
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Speaker 8: So I told him, like, I'm here to help you
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Speaker 8: as much as as much as you like. I like
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Speaker 8: to think that my familiarity with the system and concepts
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Speaker 8: that we're going to run and the way to operate.
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Speaker 8: I feel like that's going to be beneficial or Trevor
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Speaker 8: in the whole room and I can't wait to get started.
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Speaker 2: Ryan has backup quarterback. But having some people around you
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Speaker 2: familiar with everything so then when you're learning something new,
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Speaker 2: that's another new system for Trevor Lawrence to be learning
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Speaker 2: on offense. But having all those pieces in place has
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Speaker 2: to be helpful.
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Speaker 3: And this is a system guy. I mean he worked
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Speaker 3: with Kevin O'Connell in Minnesota, who comes from that tree
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Speaker 3: out of Los Angeles. He has been a part of it.
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Speaker 3: Good move. I don't know what else to say.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I thought you did a nice job in
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Speaker 4: his availability. Let's hope that was two availabilities, his first
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Speaker 4: and his last. Yes, if you're going to change systems
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Speaker 4: and culture at some point, you have to change people
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Speaker 4: within it. It's really hard to change quarterbacks. I mean
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Speaker 4: it's really hard to change systems for a quarterback if
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Speaker 4: the quarterback at the existing spot is still around everybody
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Speaker 4: who's talking old verbage mullin the first meeting, we'll be
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Speaker 4: talking the verbage of the new system. And that gets
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Speaker 4: you know, when you're trying to learn Spanish, you go
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Speaker 4: to Spanish speaking country. So I think that's a lot
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Speaker 4: of it is he knows the system, he knows the verbage.
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Speaker 4: And if they're sitting around and there's no coach in
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Speaker 4: the meeting and Trevor goes, hey, why'd they do this well,
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Speaker 4: and you can give them the quick answer and you
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Speaker 4: move on.
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Speaker 3: So it's a teaching position as well.
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Speaker 2: I think it's the little things important to remember that
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Speaker 2: things are going to be in place for Trevor to
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Speaker 2: kind of get acclimated as quickly as possible. Stay with us.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna do some hot takes after the break for
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Speaker 2: We haven't done some hot takes in a while, so
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Speaker 2: now we're going to do a couple of hot takes,
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Speaker 2: very preliminary draft, hot takes post free agency, giving us
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Speaker 2: a little bit more of a focus, not really we
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Speaker 2: don't know exactly what they're gonna do, but where we
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Speaker 2: would want them to go with the draft. So, Brian,
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Speaker 2: when you're looking at your hot take, fair preliminary draft,
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Speaker 2: or at your focusign.
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Speaker 3: So give me an offensive lineman at number five. There
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Speaker 3: are some good ones that will be available, whether it's
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Speaker 3: Campbell from LSU or armand Membu from Missouri. Hope, I'm
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Speaker 3: pronouncing that right. You know, both are guys that can
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Speaker 3: play outside. Some are projecting both of them to be
17:22
Speaker 3: able to play inside, maybe be better inside. I just
17:26
Speaker 3: don't think you can go wrong with jamming that offensive
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Speaker 3: line room, which has underperformed in recent years. We just
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Speaker 3: got done talking about third down and short. With as
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Speaker 3: many really good players as you can, it's a good
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Speaker 3: draft for defensive tackles. You could get one of those
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Speaker 3: in the second round. There are opportunities for corner and
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Speaker 3: wide receiver into the third round. So give me the
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Speaker 3: big guy in the first round.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I don't think that's the way they're going to go,
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Speaker 4: but I would not rule it out because I think
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Speaker 4: this offensive line, I don't necessarily think outside of Anton
18:02
Speaker 4: Harrison that anybody like has a job locked up. The
18:06
Speaker 4: logical guys to start are the ones that are in
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Speaker 4: the spots right now. But if you brought in number
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Speaker 4: five and one of those guys had to sit, there's
18:16
Speaker 4: gonna be competition, and there's going to be an attitude
18:19
Speaker 4: of we have seven or eight starters on the offensive line,
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Speaker 4: So I wouldn't rule that out. My hot take is
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Speaker 4: that there's still a big need a wide receiver, and
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Speaker 4: they have Brian Thomas Jr. And they have Brown, so
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Speaker 4: they're okay. Parker Washington, I think ideally is probably the
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Speaker 4: fourth guy rather than the third, So I want what
18:41
Speaker 4: you want, which is which is rare. But I want
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Speaker 4: offensive line or I want defensive line early. I would
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Speaker 4: not rule out receiver early. And I think the first
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Speaker 4: four picks or receiver, edge rusher, somewhere offensive line and
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Speaker 4: somewhere in the corner. So that's my thought on that,
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Speaker 4: and then the fourth round pick is whatever I left out.
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Speaker 3: We got two of them, so you can take both, right,
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Speaker 3: I mean, you can find players or trade up.
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Speaker 4: Maybe it's trade er, Jim.
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Speaker 2: That's my Hustbay. I want some calls to be made because,
19:13
Speaker 2: as we mentioned trade of Christian Kirk, there's now twenty
19:16
Speaker 2: one draft picks in the next two years. That's a
19:18
Speaker 2: lot of capital. If you watch any of the behind
19:20
Speaker 2: the scenes stuff with the Rams, they love to trade around,
19:22
Speaker 2: they love to make moves. I don't know how splash
19:24
Speaker 2: it needs to be, but if you can get rid
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Speaker 2: of some of those picks, move up, get some people
19:28
Speaker 2: that you're targeting. If there's a couple more quality players
19:31
Speaker 2: and a couple less players coming in, I'm fine with that.
19:34
Speaker 2: I don't need another draft class of you know, fourteen people.
19:37
Speaker 2: If we can get some people that are filling those
19:38
Speaker 2: key positions. As John laid out. I'm good with that.
19:41
Speaker 2: I hope they get on the phones and kind of
19:42
Speaker 2: figure that out.
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Speaker 3: How many days until the draft?
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Speaker 2: Oh goodness, is it less than a month?
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Speaker 4: No? Month?
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Speaker 3: About five voice?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, there's plenty of times I get on
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Speaker 2: the phone.
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Speaker 3: Sure, we'll figure it out. Yeah, soe playing.
19:58
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what's coming up the rest of the week. Actually,
20:06
Speaker 2: I'm brought to you by Fresh from Florida. It's always
20:08
Speaker 2: in season.
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Speaker 6: I hope what they see is someone who cares. I
20:18
Speaker 6: hope that shows in my play. I think it does
20:19
Speaker 6: because I do. I care a lot, care about my teammates,
20:22
Speaker 6: I care about the team. Those are the things that
20:25
Speaker 6: I want to be evident in my play. They want
20:27
Speaker 6: to see a guy finishing all the way of the whistle,
20:30
Speaker 6: picking up his teammates first one there to give them.
20:33
Speaker 6: If I'm not doing that, text me, shoot me, tweet me,
20:37
Speaker 6: tell me I'm not doing it, because that stuff's important
20:39
Speaker 6: to me.
20:41
Speaker 2: It's Robert Hainsey, my one on one last week. He says,
20:44
Speaker 2: if he's not doing what he needs to do out there,
20:47
Speaker 2: text him, tweet him. I don't think Jaguars Twitter needed
20:49
Speaker 2: that motivation, but they will find him if he's not
20:52
Speaker 2: doing what he needs to be doing. But that's what
20:53
Speaker 2: you want to hear, right, You want to hear someone
20:55
Speaker 2: that's accountable, knows what needs to be done, and wants
20:57
Speaker 2: to be held accountable by other people.
20:59
Speaker 3: The magic words I care about that stuff. Great. Again,
21:02
Speaker 3: that's what they were looking for with this free agent
21:04
Speaker 3: classic group that would come in. They're going to get
21:06
Speaker 3: paid obviously, and they're going to have to play, but
21:09
Speaker 3: you want that what's the right word, ecosphere, ecosystem, Yeah, John.
21:15
Speaker 2: With the next coming days, we talked about the draft,
21:17
Speaker 2: how far out it is, they do some visits with players,
21:20
Speaker 2: what's kind of coming up for the front office as.
21:22
Speaker 3: They look for to the draft.
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Speaker 4: Your next big step is the thirty players come in,
21:26
Speaker 4: and that's often an indication, not necessarily a first round,
21:30
Speaker 4: but as you go through the draft, it's an indication
21:32
Speaker 4: of guys they like and guys who are on their
21:34
Speaker 4: short list that you're trying.
21:35
Speaker 3: To find more about.
21:38
Speaker 4: Never believe what you read about the draft coming in,
21:42
Speaker 4: but that top thirty visit, Brian, it has in recent
21:45
Speaker 4: years sort of giving you an indication of at least
21:48
Speaker 4: the kind of guy teams like.
21:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, there'll be players on there that people's name, you know,
21:52
Speaker 3: they won't be household names. So Seth Payne walked through
21:55
Speaker 3: the door in nineteen ninety seven. He was a defensive
21:56
Speaker 3: tackle from Cornell. Why are you bringing this guy in?
21:59
Speaker 3: Because they like it and they took him. So there
22:00
Speaker 3: are players every year that will filter through that thirty
22:05
Speaker 3: and because they're going to be their fourth round pick.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we leave Andrew ingerd I think came in for
22:09
Speaker 4: a thirty visit and he was a free agent. So
22:12
Speaker 4: it's not necessarily about getting thirty guys in the first round.
22:15
Speaker 4: It's about making sure you have a good feel for
22:18
Speaker 4: guys you like. It's a final look very good.
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Speaker 2: Keep an eye on that the coming weeks, and we'll
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Speaker 2: be back with you next week here on Jack's Am.