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The Resurgence of the Running Back with Emory Hunt · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: your host. Back at it with the first lady of
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  Speaker 1: in the week. Next week, he's on baby duty right now.
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  Speaker 1: Here on the Favorites, we're talking running backs today and
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  Speaker 1: some of the top stories in the NFL with Emery
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  Speaker 1: Hunt from CBS Sports. Looking forward to that US Open
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  Speaker 1: preview pod found in the archives. So if you still
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  Speaker 1: don't know who to bet on, I gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: hit it up in the live market now.
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  Speaker 2: But Kyle Murray gave us some really good stuff to
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  Speaker 2: chew on there, Kendra.
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  Speaker 1: Between Team USA going for Game two and group play
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  Speaker 1: on Friday, the United States Open going on right now.
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  Speaker 2: In golf, I feel like a bald fucking eagle. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I just feel full blown pace, definitely double down on
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  Speaker 2: the bold.
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  Speaker 1: It's like there's there's this, uh, there's this wave of
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  Speaker 1: international you.
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  Speaker 3: Just were talking about the World Cup and saying you were.
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  Speaker 2: I was talking about the other countries, not our country.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just having a hard time getting into it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time catching the fever for just
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  Speaker 1: sitting down and obsessing over Ghana.
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  Speaker 2: That's just that's where I'm at.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, when Team USA is on, let's go, let's
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  Speaker 1: put the let's put the flags over our shoulders and
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  Speaker 1: drink a Bloodweiser, double down, triple down on the bold,
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  Speaker 1: let's go all in. We gotta we gotta beat those
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  Speaker 1: Australia mates. Okay, so Friday big. But I've noticed this
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  Speaker 1: with the international events that seem to be more popular
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  Speaker 1: than ever. The World Cup's always been huge, so I
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  Speaker 1: probably put that to the side. But the Four Nations
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  Speaker 1: event blew up. Even the NBA All Star Game people
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  Speaker 1: liked for the first time ever when they had an
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  Speaker 1: international flare to it.
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  Speaker 2: The winner Olympics were huge.
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  Speaker 1: It just seems like there's like all these numbers are popping,
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  Speaker 1: even the if you do want to rope in the
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  Speaker 1: World Cup fifteen point nine million viewers on average for
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  Speaker 1: the first USA game. That was the most watched World
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  Speaker 1: Cup game ever for the US.
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  Speaker 2: Men's team. So I don't know what it is, Kendro,
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  Speaker 2: but people love their country.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it should be the most watched event. We
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  Speaker 4: have the best team we've ever had, we have the
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  Speaker 4: you know, I.
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  Speaker 3: Guess you could say that we have stars.
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  Speaker 4: Finally, I know that I'm a little bit concerned about politics,
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  Speaker 4: calf injury and that turning into another Achilles nightmare, just
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  Speaker 4: because that seems to be the flavor of the month
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  Speaker 4: right now in sports unfortunately. So I'm a little bit
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  Speaker 4: concern that I hope if they get off to a
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  Speaker 4: great start they take him off again, continue to rest him,
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  Speaker 4: or Honestly, I'm in the camp that if he doesn't
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  Speaker 4: want to go tomorrow or can't go tomorrow, sit him.
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  Speaker 4: We as a country and them as a team should
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  Speaker 4: not need Christian Polisic to beat Australia tomorrow. I would
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  Speaker 4: like to be respectful and say you should respect all
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  Speaker 4: of your opponents and throw your best team out there
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  Speaker 4: for a World Cup. However, if it is a situation
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  Speaker 4: where he shouldn't go, can't go, whatever, sit him. We've
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  Speaker 4: got further things down the line that are more important.
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  Speaker 4: And if you can't beat Australia without Christian polistic. You
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  Speaker 4: should not be advancing in this tournament. So that's where
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  Speaker 4: I'm at with it. I'm very entertained. I've had so
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  Speaker 4: much fun. I have watched every single game except for
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  Speaker 4: the midnight kickoff. I fell asleep at halftime the other night.
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  Speaker 4: I am I don't know if Gifford's gonna kill me
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  Speaker 4: or if we're gonna have to like bleep it out
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  Speaker 4: if I say, I'm both deep in this tournament.
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  Speaker 3: But I am happy Pride Month here we are. I'm
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  Speaker 3: having a great time.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like a crazy sense of the passion for
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  Speaker 4: my country that you're talking about that I haven't felt
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  Speaker 4: in a very long time. I was out until two
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  Speaker 4: thirty in the morning last night watching people barefoot race
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  Speaker 4: each other in the streets of downtown Boston.
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  Speaker 2: So and you're in the epicenter of it.
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  Speaker 1: You've got not only is Boston one of the most
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  Speaker 1: patriotic cities in general because of its history, but you
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  Speaker 1: guys are also hosting World Cup games.
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  Speaker 4: Last night, the bars were at capacity and the lines
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  Speaker 4: were all an hour to get in downtown, and the
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  Speaker 4: party in the street was more lit than the party
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  Speaker 4: and the bars. Everybody came out the bagpipes were going,
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  Speaker 4: the flags, people standing.
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  Speaker 3: On cars, the kravits.
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  Speaker 4: There were flares being lit because the Europeans have discovered
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  Speaker 4: that you can buy fireworks on the side of the
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  Speaker 4: road here.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not kidding.
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  Speaker 4: They were lighting flares in the street for an hour
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  Speaker 4: because the Europeans have discovered fucking fireworks here.
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  Speaker 1: The fireworks thing, I'm trying to figure out if I
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  Speaker 1: could build a bunker. I live in the state of Florida,
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  Speaker 1: where they sell fireworks everywhere. They literally sell them outside
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  Speaker 1: of gas stations. I wish that was a joke.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, It's the two hundred and fiftieth birthday of our country,
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  Speaker 1: so it's good about to get wild. I do like
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  Speaker 1: the fact that the US men's team outsourced their best products.
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  Speaker 1: That Balligan is not against English, not American. Uh, Pachettino
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  Speaker 1: the coach not American.
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  Speaker 3: But that might be You're cursed. Though that might be
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  Speaker 3: a curse.
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  Speaker 4: Coaches who aren't from the country that they coach for
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  Speaker 4: have like a terrible record of like ever winning a
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  Speaker 4: World Cup coaching their team. I will say, though, back
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  Speaker 4: to the fireworks thing, and then we can move on.
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  Speaker 4: I did want to get away from the flares last night,
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  Speaker 4: just because as someone who grew up in Florida and
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  Speaker 4: as an American, I grew up with explosives. You people
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  Speaker 4: did not, And for that reason, I am a little terrified.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure that there are some digits that are missing.
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  Speaker 1: App On the football front, Joe Burrows says he's getting
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  Speaker 1: LSU twenty nineteen vibes from the Bengals this year. He
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  Speaker 1: is amped up for the start of training camp. He
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  Speaker 1: believes in this team. He thinks they've filled all of
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  Speaker 1: the proper holes they got. Dexter Lawrence on defense. Jonathan
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  Speaker 1: Allen Kenjre, you gotta love this. You're a big if
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  Speaker 1: I remember correctly because I was told to write this
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  Speaker 1: stuff down A big Bengals futures backer I am.
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  Speaker 3: And also, did you watch this interview or did you
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  Speaker 3: just hear it?
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  Speaker 2: I read the quotes.
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  Speaker 3: I need you to go.
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  Speaker 4: is the beefiest I have ever seen him. I think
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  Speaker 4: his arms are the size of my thighe right now,
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  Speaker 4: so I think we might get full blown vintage LSU
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  Speaker 4: Joe Burrow. My only fear with the Bengals is them
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  Speaker 4: continuing to leave him high and dry on the offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, just pulls up the video. Definitely looking swoll beef.
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  Speaker 1: He's been drinking the egg yoke a la.
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  Speaker 4: Rocky Creatine egg yokes. His arms are literally the size
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  Speaker 4: of my size.
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  Speaker 2: It would be something to that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it helps when you find love in your life.
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  Speaker 1: We are talking running backs, speaking of the size of
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  Speaker 1: a thigh or a tree trunk. A lot of the
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  Speaker 1: running backs in the league right now taking the league
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  Speaker 1: had a chance to chop it up with Emery or
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  Speaker 1: I always come away smarter.
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  Speaker 2: So thank you first and foremost for the time today.
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  Speaker 5: Always a pleasure man. Appreciate you guys having me on.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to start with the guy that was
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  Speaker 1: drafted at the top of the twenty twenty six class.
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  Speaker 1: I am fascinated by Jeremiah Love this year in the
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  Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. I'm seeing a lot of comparisons to Ashton
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  Speaker 1: Gent a highly touted prospect drafted early in the draft,
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  Speaker 1: going to an offense that you expect pretty much nothing from.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think Jeremiah Love can be successful in year one?
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  Speaker 2: And what do you think about him as a prospect
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  Speaker 2: in general?
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  Speaker 5: I do feel like he has a talent to be
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  Speaker 5: what you want your RB one to be. The problem is,
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  Speaker 5: you know he has a lot of traffic in his
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  Speaker 5: way in terms of that backfield is going to be
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  Speaker 5: strenuous for Arizona, but it could help him prolong his season.
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  Speaker 5: We know Rookieeson had that rookie wall, but he's so
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  Speaker 5: dog on good and you know, he was my number
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  Speaker 5: one running back, would have been my number one running
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  Speaker 5: back if he would have been able to come out
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  Speaker 5: last year because he has that explosiveness, that ability to
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  Speaker 5: score from anywhere on the field more so than an
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  Speaker 5: Ashen Genty that I feel like Ashton Genty. I compared
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  Speaker 5: Ashton Genty to more of an Emtt Smith type to
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  Speaker 5: where it may not look the best, but at the
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  Speaker 5: end of the day, you're like, how did he get
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  Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty eight yards rushing? Like nothing you
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  Speaker 5: could point to and be like, oh, that's the trade, right,
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  Speaker 5: But what you know, Jeremiah Love, I compared his game
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  Speaker 5: to Adrian Peterson because he runs up right, he's explosive,
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  Speaker 5: and it looks like he doesn't get tired. And so
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  Speaker 5: at the end of the day when you have that ability,
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  Speaker 5: and he's a better pass catcher than Adrian Peterson was
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  Speaker 5: coming out of you know, Oklahoma. So I just feel
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  Speaker 5: like if love had to be the bell, how he could.
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  Speaker 5: But I feel like his backfield, you know they're going
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  Speaker 5: to bring him along slowly, but you you have to
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  Speaker 5: be impressed with someone of his caliber and where he's
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  Speaker 5: gonna end up being as a pro.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, well those are quite the comps.
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  Speaker 1: Those are two of my maybe two of my three
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  Speaker 1: favorite running backs of all time, Adrian Peterson on the
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  Speaker 1: field Adrian Peterson and and EMMITTT.
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  Speaker 2: Smith. So I love that. What about the other guys?
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  Speaker 1: There was this steep drop off after Jeremiah loved Jadarium
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  Speaker 1: Price's teammate went at the end of the first round,
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  Speaker 1: Kaylon Black. Mike Washington is somebody I really liked out
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  Speaker 1: of Arkansas. I thought Nick Singleton was going to be
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  Speaker 1: one of the top running backs in the class going
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  Speaker 1: into last year's college football season. That fell off. He's
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  Speaker 1: on the Titans now. But is there anybody else that
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  Speaker 1: you love in the twenty six class?
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  Speaker 5: I absolutely love Mike Washington and also Jenderem Price, but
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  Speaker 5: with Mike Washington and Jonah Coleman too, I'll get to
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  Speaker 5: him in a second from war that ended up in Denver.
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  Speaker 5: But when you look at Mike Washington, I copped his
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  Speaker 5: game to Aman Green. They're both about six feet two
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  Speaker 5: twenty five. They both are super explosive, they both hit
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  Speaker 5: that outside zone, they're gone, and they both have fumbling
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  Speaker 5: issues and that was the biggest thing for Aarman Green
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  Speaker 5: until he got a good handle on it. And that's
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  Speaker 5: what we heard about Mike Washington as well. I keep
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  Speaker 5: seeing them lose that Memphis game where he fumbled the
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  Speaker 5: ball going into the end zone for the go ahead
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  Speaker 5: winning touchdown, so he has to really protect the football better.
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  Speaker 5: But I love the pairing of him and asking Genty
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  Speaker 5: because he gives you a lot of what Genty doesn't have.
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  Speaker 5: Ginga doesn't have that home run hitting speed, doesn't have
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  Speaker 5: the ability to really threaten the defense with angles. Washington does.
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  Speaker 5: So the two together gives you a good one two punch.
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  Speaker 5: When we look at Jonah Coleman, I spoke with him
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  Speaker 5: at the Combine and he talked about, like, I think
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  Speaker 5: people underestimate how good of a receiver I am because
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  Speaker 5: he was a receiver in high school before moving to
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  Speaker 5: running back. So we're gonna see that unleash with the
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  Speaker 5: Denver Broncos and showing Peyton and I love showing Payton
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  Speaker 5: because he has his entire backfield is under five nine,
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  Speaker 5: So shout out to the short kings out there right
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  Speaker 5: hi your backfield, So you have that going forward for Coleman.
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  Speaker 5: Good good, aggressive with good vision. Price. I love the
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  Speaker 5: fact that he could step out of tackles. He's really
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  Speaker 5: slippery as a runner, but he also can help you
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  Speaker 5: as a kickoff return specialist. He's going to a great
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  Speaker 5: situation himself where he can be the guy and being
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  Speaker 5: an explosive element. So this was a good I think
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  Speaker 5: this was a good running back class to upgrade teams
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  Speaker 5: RB two. And you know we're now in the era
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  Speaker 5: where we're talking about tandem starters as opposed to one
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  Speaker 5: guy being a true bell.
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  Speaker 4: Kyle, I want to talk about the current state of
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  Speaker 4: the running back position. For a long time, running backs
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  Speaker 4: were not paid. They were seen as finishing pieces. You
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  Speaker 4: could argue Saquon Barkley, was he even a finishing piece?
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  Speaker 4: But Jeremiah Love getting drafted third. Overall, you know the
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  Speaker 4: Chiefs beefing up with Kenneth Walker, Travis a h Ets
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  Speaker 4: and going to the Saints. Do you think that the
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  Speaker 4: position has changed in that it's no longer seen as
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  Speaker 4: a finishing piece when running backs are being taken in
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  Speaker 4: the top three again, or do you think that this
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  Speaker 4: conversation is just something that's going to continue to change
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  Speaker 4: over the next couple of years.
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  Speaker 5: Propaganda is a strong thing. The running back position has
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  Speaker 5: always been the same. The problem is you have now
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  Speaker 5: more people talking about this. From me, as long as
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  Speaker 5: analytics became part of the forefront conversation, people talk themselves
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  Speaker 5: out of game breakers, but every time since this became
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  Speaker 5: a thing for them, if you look at the final
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  Speaker 5: four of teams in the postseason every year, it's teams
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  Speaker 5: that can run the football, and game breakers have always
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  Speaker 5: gone in the first round. So in you know, the
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  Speaker 5: disingenuous part of the conversations is always where you could
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  Speaker 5: You can find a runner back anywhere, sure, but you
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  Speaker 5: can't find Saquon Barkley anywhere. And Saquon Barkley in the eighties, nineties,
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty tens, twenty twenties, they all go in the
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  Speaker 5: first round anyway, So therein lies the difference. You can
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  Speaker 5: find an embry hunt anywhere, you can't find the sake
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  Speaker 5: On Barkley anywhere, And so they always wanted to skew
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  Speaker 5: the conversation to try to devalue the running back position.
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  Speaker 5: But anybody that has played ball will tell you this
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  Speaker 5: straight up. If you have a true game break in
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  Speaker 5: the backfield, it changes everything. It changes how you defend,
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  Speaker 5: it changes how you attack. It literally changes the math.
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  Speaker 5: And so when you have these guys like a Price
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  Speaker 5: or a Love or Barkley or Gibbs or Bijon, those
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  Speaker 5: dudes really dictate how defenses play because you're on your edge.
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  Speaker 5: If I am afraid of you breaking a tackle or
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  Speaker 5: a slipping a tackle to get to get to the
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  Speaker 5: end zone, man, I got to make sure my angles
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  Speaker 5: are right. I got to make sure I don't overrun.
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  Speaker 5: I got to make sure my fits are proper. And
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  Speaker 5: while I'm doing all that, if I'm out of step
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  Speaker 5: one spot, that back is off to the races. And
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  Speaker 5: you can't get that in round seven. You can get
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  Speaker 5: that in round one. And so I always felt like
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  Speaker 5: the conversation was dis ingenious, But nobody listens to me
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  Speaker 5: having played the position. They just rather to listen to
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  Speaker 5: those guys that you know come up with those cool
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  Speaker 5: splatter chart graphics and you know, the spider charts, and
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  Speaker 5: they make you look smart. But the actual football guys
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  Speaker 5: to tell you like running backs, Well, if you have
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  Speaker 5: a dude back there, that's a problem.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think we're seeing a little bit of a
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  Speaker 4: changing of the guard from the Christian mccaffreys, the Derrick Henrys,
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  Speaker 4: and the Jonathan Taylor's into more of the bee jon Robinson,
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  Speaker 4: Ashton Genfi and jamieer Gibbs of the world. I'm trying
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  Speaker 4: to predict, not only as a gambler, but as someone
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  Speaker 4: who plays fantasy football, when do you move off of
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  Speaker 4: the guys that we as fans have been so spoiled
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  Speaker 4: with for the last decade.
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  Speaker 5: You got to keep your eyes on the prize, and
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  Speaker 5: you know, usually the game will tell your eyes will
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  Speaker 5: never deceive you. You know, analytics will all the time.
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  Speaker 5: You know, they'll tell you, oh, running backs golf cliff
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  Speaker 5: on age thirty, Well here's Derek Henry. You know he
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  Speaker 5: is not you know of this normal you know running
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  Speaker 5: back group. And we saw guys like Curtis Martin, We've
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  Speaker 5: seen guys imt. Smith. We've seen guys have success over
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  Speaker 5: the age of thirty. So if you're watching the game
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  Speaker 5: and not just waiting for the outcome to see how
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  Speaker 5: you won your fantasy or you know what the numbers
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  Speaker 5: look like, See how they got those numbers, and you
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  Speaker 5: could see, oh, this dude's not This dude got a
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  Speaker 5: lot left, you know. And I think that's the that's
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  Speaker 5: the difference. So a guy like McCaffrey, and then you
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  Speaker 5: have to pair of guys with you know what they
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: what they are, the system they're in. You know, a
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: guy like McCaffrey is going to have a longer leash
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: and a longer run rayed runway before he falls off
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: the cliff, right. A guy like Derek Henry, if he
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: was still in if he was in any other situation
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: not paired with the mobile quarterback, you would say, Okay,
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: I'm a little bit worried about his workload. But because
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: he's with a quarterback that you got to respect his legs,
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: it makes life easier for Derek Henry or any back.
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: So look at Gus Jackson, Gus Edwards when he was
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: with Lamar, jack supposed to when he left Lamar.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: So I think it's always about what you're actually watching,
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: because you know more bald than you're giving yourself credit
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: for as a viewer, as a fan, because you have
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: to just look at I don't see this guy's sluggish.
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: They're still not tackling him, they're still afraid of him.
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: They still can't catch Christian McCaffrey. So as long as
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: those things are confirming with your IIC, then you should
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: have no problem in trusting those guys a long time.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: There were some big moves this offseason for running back says, well,
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: what are your thoughts on Kenneth Walker's move after winning
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: a Super Bowl and Travis etn like I mentioned going
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: to the Saints and now Tank Bigsby being that number
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: one in Jacksonville.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: Well, I would say this for Walker, I would love
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: to be in the running back room for you know,
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: going through his game tape because he run his running
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: style runs counter to everything that you draw up, Like
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: nothing you draw up is supposed to go the way
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: he runs. It's like you said, okay, you're supposed to
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: hit this thing front side, you know, read the block
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: and then bounce off the He'll go that way and
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: then stop and then turn due east and go the
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: opposite way is away from the blockers, and he's like
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: this is not gonna work, but it works out for him,
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: Like he is the only one that get away with that.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: And so I think for Kansas City what they needed
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: was someone that can truly run the ball and set
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: the table. And now they've paired him with a good
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: draft class and Emit Johnson out of Nebraska, even Jaden
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: Ot the undrafted rookie free agent out of Oklahoma slash
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: cal Uh. So they're gonna be good running football. I
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: think he works in Kansas City. He's a better back
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: in my opinion than the checko. So I like that
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: Travis h Chan going to New Orleans. I think that
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: weekends Jacksonville significantly. People overestimated but Shawn Tutan's Bashil Tuton's
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: ability and not realize what really made that offense go
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: was the threat of h Chan hitting the corner or
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: being able just to gash you on these sprint draws
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: or even screenplay. So now you put him in New
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: Orleans with Alvin Kamara, who still has that still looks
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: the same. You can tell if he was a rookie
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: or twelve year veteran, he still plays the same. I
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: think that right there is long term and and Bixby
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: is now in Philly. I think him and what they
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: do with uh, you know.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: I'm in facial too, And I said, I said, Tank
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Bigsby didn't. I, Oh my goodness, what a listen.
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: But it's a it's a it's a it's a fraudulent
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: slip because he still should be in.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Big Jacks fan. I knew eventually it would catch up
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: to her.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, yeah, I don't even that was just
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: my coffee is still here today.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: He still should be in Jacksonville, he asked me. Like,
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: I think that would I would feel confident, more confident
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: about their run game if Bixby was still there as
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: opposed to relying on Tuton to be the feature guy.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love Tuton now. I think that he had
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: a great season last year.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: I think Tuton is more of a complimentary simple he's
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: his He reminds me more of what the the Commander's
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: fan you know, have and Bill Crossty Merrick there. They're good,
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: complimentary guys. They're not guys that really threaten you. They're
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: guys that come in when the feature guy then wore
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: down as defense, and they had that speed to really
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: take advantage. But when you ask those guys to kind
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: of carry the load, and a load in this era
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: is now fifteen carries it. No longer is the twenty
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: five carries shade. Now it's the fifteen carries and that
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: you know, I don't think those guys had that. So
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: he's gonna need someone else to kind of emerge to
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: where they can take some of their pressure off him.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: From one eight Chan to the other.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: What do you think of, by the way, cash the
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: ticket on me mentioning the Miami Dolphins here, but Deavon
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: a Chan now has that entire offense is his. The
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Dolphins have probably the worst wide receiving corps that we've
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: seen in perhaps NFL history, definitely in the NFL right now. Uh,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: he's got insane explosiveness. Is he good enough to carry
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: an offense? So we don't expect them to be very good.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: But you're overall view on his talent and his ability
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: to be a bell cow year after year.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I know injuries were a concern coming out of A
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: and M as well.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: I actually like his game. I remember the first time
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: my scour reports like he runs like a determined puppy,
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: like he just can't just like it just keeps going.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: He never gets tired, and he has that element of
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: what I talked about that explosive speed. And there were
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: times when you know Mike McDaniel was, you know, the
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: head coach, like you know, keep feeding him. You know
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: that's you know he'll get he'll get too cute and
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: then get away from it. They try to go back
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: to it. But man, you see the same thing you
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: see in Buffalo with James Cook. Like, if you run
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: James Cook, you're in the Super Bowl probably two years
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: in a row, as opposed to getting bounced out the postseason.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: And I feel like with a chan you know in
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: Miami now with Malik Willis, he may be one of
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: those guys you kind of put an asterisk by, like
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: he may crush fifteen hundred yards with a crazy yards
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: to carry average because you have to worry about Moliquial
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: List and them adding Cayton Proctor and getting bigger upfront.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: I love that for Miami. I think Miami is gonna
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: look like a team that can run a football and
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: looking at what Halfley had left in Green Bay with
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Josh Jacobs, I think he understands if we're gonna live
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: and die by this run game, and we got an
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: athletic quarterback that can ease some of the pressure off
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: of e Chan and a Chan could have a easily
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: have a five to five and a half yards carry
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: average this year?
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Is Ollie Gordon the most underrated running back in the
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: league right now?
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Because I am in the camp that potentially.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: I do like it was fascinating cause it was like,
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: this was my whole part about Oli Gordon leading up
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: to the jobts like, why do people just ignore he
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: ran for like eighteen hundred yards at Oklahoma State that.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: That year and the year his junior year, I think
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: sophomore year. It was crazy.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: And then you know they had I would say they
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: had awful quarterback play. They even had bad quarterback play
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: his last year at Oklahoma They were awful on offensive
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: offensive line as well too. It was like, one of
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: the worst things that could happen to you as a
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: running back is when the quarterback turns around the hands
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: you to football and he doesn't see what's going on
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: behind him. All you see is different cult You're like, man,
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: I gotta get through four dudes before you even get
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: to a line of scrimmage. That's what was happening his
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: last year Oklahoma State, and I thought he was gonna
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: be the perfect pairing for Miami, which I tell and
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: I felt like, again, Mike McDaniels, they get too cute
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: with the play calling and you're like, here's a short yardist,
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: goal line guy. Here's a guy that could really be
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: the finisher of these drives. I think that's still his role.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: And to your point, I do feel like he's undervalued
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: and has a legitimate shot to steal away let's say
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: five to six touchdowns this season being that guy, because
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: Ali Gordon is, yeah, he has a you know, he
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: can run tall a little bit, but Ali Gordon is
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: a dog.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: All right, it's jump. Let's make the obvious jump here,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: he said. Mike McDaniel's offense is maybe a little bit
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: too cute. Well, he now takes over the offense for
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: the LA Chargers. They have a running back who's a
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: little underwhelming in his rookie season. But that happens Omarion Hampton,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: who I just saw headline. He was told by his
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator that he reminds him of Terrell Davis. What
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: do you see in Omario on Hampton? And how can
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel open up the running game and everything for
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Justin Herbert.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: Hampton was my number two running back in last year's class,
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: and I just love his his He's a one cut
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: down here running.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: He has the bursts.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: You know, he's built like a back that you know
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: played in the nineties and those type of backs you
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: used to love, like they could handle multiple you know,
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: multiple carry games, like twenty plus carry games. Uh and
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: Mike McDaniel. I feel like, if he's I love him,
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: pair with Jim Harball because we know Harball wants to
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: run the football and he will run the football and
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: that's gonna help Hampton. If Hampton can stay healthy, that's good.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: That's his thing. Hampton made life easier for Drake me
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: at u NC. He's gonna make life easier at full
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: strength for Justin Herbert. The problem for the Chargers, And
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: I said this on CBS. I was like, listen, no
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: one enjoys this summer more than Justin Herbert because they
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: spent every other week talking about how Jaialen Hurt sucks,
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: Labar Jackson sucks. Meanwhile, this dude ain't won a playoff
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: game ever, and he get he goes unscathed. You know
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying like this is he's out on the beach,
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: he's enjoying my ties. He ain't won a playoff game,
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: but Hurts has fall in love with the deep ball Emery.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: The guy has a beautiful arm, and we just tend
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: to forget everything else. They just love the aesthetic of
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: Justin Herbert. They don't, they don't. They stop watching the games,
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: you know, and they'll keep saying he needs helping weapons. Well,
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: Hampton is that help and that weapon. But Hampton has
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: to stay healthy. Uh.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: The last year's class, he said Hampton was two. I
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: imagine Gent was one last year.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he was one, but not by much though I
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: had let's say, if I had an eighty and a
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: half grade on Gent, I had an eighty grade on
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: on hamp That was a big.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Fan of Hampton.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Everything that this year's class is not outside of Jeremiah Love,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: last year's class was We mentioned Gent and Omario on Hampton,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Trevon Henderson in New England, that's where Kendra is based. R. J.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Harvey I watched closely as an.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Orlando guy who played at UCDF Fagel Toot and we
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: talked about him, Cam Scataboo, the Battering Ram, the other
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: guys from last year's class. They'll be entering year two
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: and have a chance to really break out here. Among
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: the rest of the guys who are sophomores in the NFL, who.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Do you like the best?
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: I would probably say Hampton because Henderson is gonna be
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: blocked by.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: You know what they have in.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: The other running back, Stevenson Romidre Stevenson, who stopped fumbling,
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: which was great for him and that earned him more
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: grace for the he coached. He gonna utilize that dual
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: tandem backfield. But I feel like Hampton has a chance
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: and the runway and the pathway for him to be
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: that guy I hope. And I know injuries are a
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: freak occurrence. You can't predict someone's getting hurt. But if
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: he's able to stay out there for a full seventeen
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: game season, he's a thirteen hundred yard rusher in my opinion.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: I think we have to talk about Brendan Soresby here,
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: just because that seems to be a hot topic of
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: conversation right now. You tweeted out a scouting report of him.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: What do you think his strengths and weaknesses are and
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: what type of team do you think might be interested
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: in him.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: His strengths are that it may not look conventional, but
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: he drops some beautiful balls deep down the field in
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: terms of you know, you're like Dann that's a funky release,
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: but it falls in line accurately and it hits the
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: receiver stride. He does have good velocity more so than
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: a strong arm, so he's able to whip the ball
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: around and connect when he sets his feet, you know,
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: he could drive the ball. And that's the other that's
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: a concern about him. You know, the his feet are
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: never set. You know, he has a whip like releases,
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: very much like Spencer Rattler in terms of his release
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: and the ability to really get the football out there.
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: But his feet are never calm. And that's both in
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: a clean pocket and definitely versus pressure. And obviously the
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: you know, the the other thing, you know, the gambling
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: that he's been you know, accused of. And what was
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: what's interesting about that. I was in studio watching this
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: was week zero, week one, the week they played Nebraska,
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: and you know, watching how that game ended, like, yo,
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: why would he make that decision? Like that's it was
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: first down that like twenty seconds up they're driving.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: What throw was that? Now?
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: Looking at it with hindsight, like Damn was that one
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: of them, you know what I'm saying. So that's good.
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: So I think the team that should be interested is
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: probably like the Winnipeg Blue Bombers and those seas because
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: we just saw this, like with one hundred Decords, who
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: lost his whole couse career at IOA State when he
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: got caught betting and then had to finish up at
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: Iowa Western. Gaudjuco signed with the Saints as an undrafted
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: free agent last year, got cut, and he played in
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: the preseason, but got cut and he just finished his
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: false spring season with the Houston Gamblers funny enough INFL,
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: and now he just got signed by the Saints again.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: I think personally that's the route Sores people will have
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: to go and should go, because you got to stay
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: clean for at least a year before I feel comfortable
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: bringing you in because outside of the betting on games,
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: you can control that by not playing him. The problem
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: that he presents for an NFL team is what's the
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: lynch pin of gambling edges and ability to lay good
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: bets knowing who's gonna be out there healthy? And you
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, if you have someone that has
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: inside information on injury reports, schematic, you know, game plans.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: He doesn't have to place a bet, but he can
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: get that information to someone who can. I think that's
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: the rub, and that's why if I'm an NFL team,
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: I'll stay further away from him until he goes to
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: an alternate league place stays a year clean, and then
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: we could talk about bringing him in.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: That was kind of a conversation we were having on
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: our show on Tuesday, was what type of repercussions did
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: the NFL put in place here to prevent future college
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: quarterbacks from gambling getting away with Seid and then just
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: making a run to the league with you know, nothing,
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: nothing as far as like a slap on the wrist
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: or anything like that. So that's kind of been the
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: question for us. Are you expecting any repercussions for him
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: at all? And if not, what type of round do
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: you see or where would you have him kind of
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: mocked in comparison to the other quarterbacks that would have
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: been coming out.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: If he was clean and was coming out in this draft,
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: he would he would fit in my quarterbacks that went
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: that were in the six to ten range, right, So
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: that would put him in line with the how I
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: had him graded, so that would put him in line
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: with the Tye Simpsons, A K Club Nicks, the Jail
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: and Daniels, the Who's u DFA with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: the garrettnus Smeyer. So we're talking more Day three guy,
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: Day three type talents, and that's where I would have
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: had him greates. So that's why I found it fascinating
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: that these guys, just because he announced he was gonna
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: be in a supplemental draft, everyone is breaking the next
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: time he was a first round pick, Like y'all didn't
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: mention him in the first round at no point in
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: time in his collegiate career while he was actually playing.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: It's all about the new shiny toy that you now,
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: y'all saying, oh, a first round Yeah, he would have
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: been a first round player. If that was the case,
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: y'all would have told him, don't transfer to Texas Tech,
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: come out in the draft. But y'all didn't. Why because
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: it wasn't the first round talent. So I would say
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: day three if everything was clean, But now that we
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: know nothing, and I would say, don't. Why would you
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: spend a pick on the guy that the league may
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: suspend for a year because we saw this with Calvin Ridley,
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: and you know, yeah, they'll say, well, teams still traded
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: for him, and then you know, but yeah, don't I
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: know it right? And they'll bring up Kai Shan Bouti
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: as a as an example. But that's different than this guy.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: The quarterback controls everything. He touches the ball every place.
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: He would have more of an impact on a game
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: than a receiver would. Yeah, we could tell it for
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: a receiver points shaven like he dropping you like bro,
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: come on that dog. But a quarterback like you that
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: would be significant. And one thing the league doesn't play
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: about is their money. They'll let you be here, done
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: everything else, but mess up our back. Yeah you're you're
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: not playing.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's what was going on with Brian Thomas Junior
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: last year.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, don't start with me, Gravitz. Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 4: notorious around here for my final question being a silly
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  Speaker 4: question and hopefully the easiest one you will be asked today,
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: and that is do you think Fred Taylor should be
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  Speaker 4: in the Hall of Fame?
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely? And here soapbox, it's not even the small soapbox.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think people understand how difficult it is to
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  Speaker 5: get ten thousand yards in the NFL, especially when you
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: are the league guy like that, when people know you're
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: getting the football and they can't stop. You think about
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  Speaker 5: some of these back If it was that easy to
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: get yards in the NFL, everybody would have ten thousand yards.
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  Speaker 5: But I feel like if you hit that ten thousand
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  Speaker 5: yard number as an NFL running back, regardless of error,
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  Speaker 5: you're in. You are a Hall of Famer. And Fred
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: Taylor did this for a long time in Jacksonville. And
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: it's funny when people say he injury prone when you
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: look at he barely missed time like he crazy right
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  Speaker 5: and then he had the it just that is an automatic. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: he should be in and so but that's my platform,
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: is the fact that if you get ten thousands, and
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: if you look at that list and guys that have
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: gone ward done should be in. If you look at
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: that list of guys that have gone over ten thousand yards,
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: like those some dogs in there, man like and those,
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  Speaker 5: that's the that's the benchmark for running backs to get
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: to the Hall of Fame's.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Look at the names that are right in front of
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  Speaker 1: Fred Taylor, Thurman, Thomas, Frank O'harris, Marcus Allen, Edrin, James Marshall, Falk,
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  Speaker 1: Jim Brown.
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  Speaker 5: Come on, this was awesome about Fred Taylor to outside
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: of him doing it on the field. He also his
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: first ballot Aesthetic Hall of Famer. When I was in
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: high school, Fred Taylor introduced everybody to the merritant visors
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: like bro, I gotta get that. And the backflap it
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: was him at war Dune. He used to have a
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: backflap flap like aesthetic Hall of Fame, the tights, the
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: blue tight like come on now, he's hall of him
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: all the way around and yes anytime, Like I grew
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: up in the South Well that was like commonplace. So
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: Fred Taylor was like aesthetic in the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 5: Like if you go in the barbershop you see all
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: the different hair cuts out. You know, I want the
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: number twenty Fred Tayler aesthetically was the number you know,
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  Speaker 5: one in that in at UH ranking.
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  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I want a separate episode Emery hunts Aesthetic Hall of
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Fame in the NFL. Let's get to our draft Kings
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: plant the Flag segment for this week, We're going season
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: long running back. Bet We're gonna go I got one,
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  Speaker 1: Kendra's got one, and Emory is gonna give us his
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: grade on the bets that we place total yards, awards,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: touchdowns week one. However you want to play this, Kendra,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: We'll start with you.
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  Speaker 2: Shut up. I'm trying to plant my flag here.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, you're really planning your flag in that dex.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: I am going to go with Jeremiah Love over eight
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: touchdowns on the season plus two point fifty. I think
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: even though he's a rookie, he's gonna see a ton
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: of snaps, probably a lot of goal line easy, easy.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Number for me there.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: But my question for Emery would be if I were
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: to place a future on the next running back to
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: win Super Bowl MVP, who would you throw out there?
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Who do you think is the most ready team right now?
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: Maybe a quarterback that might not shine in the big lights?
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: You who you point?
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: Not?
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: All right? Two things. One, you said eight touchdowns, right,
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: not rushing touchdowns or just eight touchdowns four touchdowns the
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: great bet by jerem Now the second part of your question,
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: I would say, I would say Derek Hem You said
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: running back to an MVP, right, And so when I
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: was growing up I had the same Super Bowl prediction
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: every year as the Saints versus the Raiders because I
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: was a big LA Raiders fan because of Marcus Allen
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: bo Jackson who also be in the Hall of Fame.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Bo Jackson were Eagle.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: So now.
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: Getting all these takes in and so for the last
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: four years, my Super Bowl prediction has been the Eagles
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: versus Ravens. At some point we're gonna get it. We
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: almost got in twenty twenty three, but you know, Raves
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: decided to like not run the football in UH against
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: Kansas City at home when kan City can't.
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  Speaker 2: Stop the run.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: So with that being a backdrop, I do feel like
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: the Ravens will get in and if they get in there,
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: Kny will have a career day in a Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 5: I'll say Derek Kany would be the next back to
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: win MVP in a Super Bowl.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: I need have two cracks at it. With those two
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: teams going ahead to head not bad. I'm gonna go
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: with Ashton genty forty to one to win. Offensive Player
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: of the Year, improved offensive system under Kubiak, improved quarterback play.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: For whoever ends up playing QB, I think it'll be
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins for most of the season, more opportunities in
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: an efficient offense, and I like the way he was
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: running at the end of last year. No surprise, this
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: guy came from the Mountain West and got off to
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: a slow start in his NFL career, carried Boise State
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: and then has to run behind a bad offense that
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: had no plan with Gino Smith at quarterback. This is
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: the cheapest we're gonna get Genty throughout the course of
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: his prime.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Emry, what do you.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Think about the chances of Genty just exploding in year two?
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  Speaker 2: Given his talent?
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  Speaker 5: I would say I would not bet that. And here's
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: what's It's.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Already in the books. Okay, I needed needed you to
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: guess me up here. Here's why.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: I do agree with you that gent will have a
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: much better year because you get Tyler in the bomb,
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: you get Spencer Burford. Do you improve the offensive line?
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: That alone will help him be better. He would have
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: a thousand yard season there and would be better than
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: he was last year. The problem with Genty winning Offensive
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: Player of the Year we knew, we know, and I
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: kind of touched on. I've been flaming these dudes all
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: throughout this This show is about these analytic guys and
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: that you know they want to just see the highlights,
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: and gent won't have the highlights. Genty's highlights will require
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: you to actually watch the games, and so he's not
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: going to have multiple Jamior Gibb runs, and we know
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: the flash plays is what gets you, you know, the
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: thousand yards. I would even say a better bet would
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: be I don't know if this is a one of
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: the odds or whatnot, but who is the next back
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: to get two thousand yards? And that would be Jamiir Gibbs.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's, you know, more attainable than let's say,
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: Offensive Player of the Year for Genty because of one.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: We know they're gonna make whatever success about the quarterback
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: and so whoever that is right and it should be.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: I'm not letting these dudes off the hook. With Finnanda
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: mien Doz, he spent all spring and talk about his
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: big brain and how he's the he could see things
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: in five D D chests and five D chests And
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: now you're telling me he can't beat out Kirk Cousins
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: with a full month runway to learn offense, like miss
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: me with that he better start the dog on season.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: But they'll make whatever success about the quarterback and the
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: offensive coordinator and less about Genty. And I also feel
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: like Mike Washington will kind of help Genty but also
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: take some of that away from him. So I see
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: Genty having a thousand yards, but I don't see him
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: having those flash splash plays to get Offensive Player of
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: the Year. I do see that for Gibbs, and I
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: also see that for him being the next guy to
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: rush for two thousand yards.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Well to that point the mirror, Gibbs is the odds
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: on favorite to win Offensive Player of the Year for
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: not just for running backs, for everybody involved. He's a
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: plus seven point fifty with Bijon right behind him, which,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: by the way, speaks to the running back renaissance that
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: we opened up this conversation with the fact that the
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: two guys at the top of the heap not Jamar Chase,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: not JSN. We're talking about two of the top running
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: backs in the game. Emery Hunt breaks it down, unlike
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: any other football game, plan is how you can find
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: them also on CBS Sports. Emory thanks so much for
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: the time. We really appreciate it.
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: Fun chat have me on and allowed me to get
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: on my soapbox for at least twenty five minutes.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: We'll definitely do it again.
• 40:39
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• 40:41
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