Latest / Wicked Radio with Bill Adams / 5-28: Trump Accuser E Jean Carroll Probed By The DOJ - CNN Spins It As Revenge
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- 0:04Speaker 1: It's just never a dull moment in the headlines with
- 0:06Speaker 1: your current and former president forty five and forty seven,
- 0:09Speaker 1: and with the news story yesterday that the Department of
- 0:12Speaker 1: Justice is now probing Trump accuser Egen Carroll, and oh,
- 0:15Speaker 1: we got a lot more about her. You probably forgot
- 0:17Speaker 1: about her for a while, but she dominated the headlines
- 0:19Speaker 1: just a couple of years ago with the probe of her. Yet,
- 0:23Speaker 1: I know this is tough, but I've had to try
- 0:25Speaker 1: to wrap my head around this too. It's tough with
- 0:27Speaker 1: Trump to try to not you know, try to replace
- 0:29Speaker 1: him with any other president and imagine him going through
- 0:32Speaker 1: this kind of thing, because he's just such a you know,
- 0:34Speaker 1: an energy like force in the headlines and creates news
- 0:39Speaker 1: stories unlike any other president. But try to imagine any
- 0:41Speaker 1: other president and going through a civil trial like this,
- 0:45Speaker 1: like the Egen Carroll thing. We'll get him too here
- 0:47Speaker 1: in a second, and try to replace him with any
- 0:49Speaker 1: other president where the witness the main accuser wasn't exactly
- 0:52Speaker 1: too credible. If it was anybody else, I can tell
- 0:56Speaker 1: you I think most people feel the same way too.
- 0:58Speaker 1: This is a former and at the time was soon
- 1:01Speaker 1: to be re elected president, wouldn't you want an investigation
- 1:06Speaker 1: to make sure that the main accuser, no matter who
- 1:09Speaker 1: this president was, was on the level. And that's what
- 1:13Speaker 1: that's what this comes to. But I think it's something
- 1:14Speaker 1: more than this, with the Department of Justice probing e
- 1:17Speaker 1: Gene Carroll and her and her credibility for a perjury
- 1:23Speaker 1: accusation here, I think it's about who put her on
- 1:27Speaker 1: the main stage to go after Trump. I think that's
- 1:29Speaker 1: really what the Department of Justice is going after here.
- 1:31Speaker 1: But of course Seenn spins all of this, it's just
- 1:34Speaker 1: political revenge, right, all right, Well, we'll see all right.
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- 1:51Speaker 1: and the replay there. Let's get right to it. The
- 1:53Speaker 1: breaking news yesterday. Here's where, here's what dominated the headlines
- 1:56Speaker 1: last night. And we'll only continue this will be a
- 1:59Speaker 1: massive story from here.
- 2:00Speaker 2: This department, CNN is learning, has launched a new criminal
- 2:03Speaker 2: investigation into one of Trump's enemies Egene Carroll now Egene
- 2:08Speaker 2: Carroll was the former magazine columnist who accused President Donald
- 2:11Speaker 2: Trump of sexual assault, ended up being that he was
- 2:14Speaker 2: liable for sexual abuse. The sources telling CNN that the
- 2:17Speaker 2: investigation now is focused on whether Carrol committed perjury during her.
- 2:22Speaker 1: Tuesday listen to MI Dereic Burnett, and that's right out
- 2:26Speaker 1: of the This is how CNN broke the story. And
- 2:28Speaker 1: they were first to break the story. Their sources, their
- 2:31Speaker 1: unnamed sources, got it first. That's the first line out
- 2:34Speaker 1: of the box. CNN has learned that the Department of
- 2:37Speaker 1: Justice is going after one of Trump's enemies, so right
- 2:41Speaker 1: there are They've already spun and framed it as political revenge. Okay,
- 2:44Speaker 1: all right, that's one thing. Massive story all over the place,
- 2:47Speaker 1: even and I think this was actually out of Channel
- 2:50Speaker 1: seven in New York, but just to show you that
- 2:51Speaker 1: this dominated the headlines last night.
- 2:54Speaker 3: Breaking news moments ago. The Department of Justice has launched
- 2:57Speaker 3: a criminal investigation into Egene Carol, she accused President Trump
- 3:01Speaker 3: of sexual assault. The investigation is allegedly centered around whether
- 3:05Speaker 3: Carrol committed perjury during her civil lawsuit against the president.
- 3:09Speaker 3: She was eventually awarded a five million dollar judgment. Acting
- 3:12Speaker 3: Attorney General Todd Blanche has recused himself from the investigation
- 3:16Speaker 3: given this past representation of Trump in the matter.
- 3:20Speaker 1: That now, that's interesting. So they were trying to jump
- 3:22Speaker 1: on this like right away, Oh, this is attacked. They
- 3:25Speaker 1: tried this tactic at first. Todd Blinch, he defended Trump
- 3:28Speaker 1: in this civil trial, and he's the acting Attorney general
- 3:31Speaker 1: right now, and god knows he's been going after the
- 3:33Speaker 1: fraud and the immigration violations and everything else. He's oh,
- 3:37Speaker 1: wait a minute, he recused himself. Ah, okay, So then
- 3:40Speaker 1: they had to spend it as President Trump going after
- 3:44Speaker 1: one of his enemies directing his Department of Justice. Ude, no, no,
- 3:48Speaker 1: and I go again to this. Wouldn't you want to
- 3:51Speaker 1: make sure even past because it's all been you know,
- 3:55Speaker 1: their feeling this and everything else with the civil trial
- 3:59Speaker 1: and the award she got and everything else. Wouldn't you
- 4:01Speaker 1: want to make sure that anybody accusing any past or
- 4:04Speaker 1: current president of anything this heinous to be on the
- 4:08Speaker 1: up and up. These are the questions that should have
- 4:10Speaker 1: been asked at the time, but he wasn't in office
- 4:12Speaker 1: at the time. A little bit of background on the story.
- 4:13Speaker 1: If you don't remember, because I think we all try
- 4:15Speaker 1: to wash this out of her memory banks. Okay, two
- 4:18Speaker 1: thousand and three to twenty twenty three jury found Trump
- 4:21Speaker 1: liable for sexual abuse defamation five million dollar judgment separate
- 4:24Speaker 1: defamation case additional eighty three million plus judgment twenty twenty
- 4:29Speaker 1: two deposition. Egene Carroll stated that no one else was
- 4:32Speaker 1: paying her legal fees. We're going to get into that
- 4:35Speaker 1: in a second, because I think it's what the entire
- 4:36Speaker 1: story is about. But we got to get into I
- 4:39Speaker 1: hate to dig this up at the time because it
- 4:41Speaker 1: was so just absolutely ridiculous. If you think the headlines
- 4:44Speaker 1: are insane, now think back a little bit to just
- 4:47Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when this lady was everywhere.
- 4:51Speaker 1: Remember to ask yourself why. Here's a here's a little
- 4:54Speaker 1: assample of that with the now infamous Anderson Cooper interviewed
- 4:59Speaker 1: that she did. This is her just describing the incident
- 5:01Speaker 1: herself as she was promoting her book about it.
- 5:03Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, we went up. He was going to get
- 5:06Speaker 4: some lingerie, and I am just like, Oh, I can
- 5:10Speaker 4: dine out forever on this story. We're gonna go get lingree.
- 5:14Speaker 1: You go, you say, you go to the Lauingderie department,
- 5:16Speaker 1: and no.
- 5:16Speaker 4: One is around, and there are two or three boxes
- 5:18Speaker 4: on the counter, the fancy remember the old passioned lingerie boxes,
- 5:22Speaker 4: and a filmy see through bodysuit in lilac gray. And
- 5:27Speaker 4: he snatches it up and he says, go try this on.
- 5:30Speaker 4: I said, you try it on. He said, no, it
- 5:33Speaker 4: looks like it, but you I said, it goes with
- 5:35Speaker 4: your eyes. He said, no, go put this on. And
- 5:39Speaker 4: and so at this point, it's you're saying, I used
- 5:44Speaker 4: to be a writer. At Saturday Night Live, I see
- 5:47Speaker 4: an entire sketch of making Donald Trump put this filmy
- 5:52Speaker 4: thing over his pants. That is what I'm thinking. I
- 5:55Speaker 4: am not thinking. I think it's I just I was
- 5:59Speaker 4: laughing as I said, and he said, well, you know,
- 6:00Speaker 4: he went like this, and I walked in stupid dude.
- 6:04Speaker 1: This was kind of a New York moment. Oh, one
- 6:07Speaker 1: of those best news.
- 6:08Speaker 4: Just like the best New York Donald Trump is going
- 6:11Speaker 4: to put on a filming.
- 6:12Speaker 1: Okay, And I actually I haven't seen a lot of
- 6:15Speaker 1: Anderson Cooper interviews live at the time, though a couple
- 6:17Speaker 1: of years ago I remember watching this live. I was
- 6:20Speaker 1: laughing out loud. I mean, this is insane. This is it.
- 6:22Speaker 1: It's insane that this woman was even taken seriously about this.
- 6:26Speaker 1: I'll never forget it, but you might remember this because
- 6:29Speaker 1: the main clip that everybody remembers from this interview was
- 6:32Speaker 1: actually what happened at the end. No matter what you
- 6:35Speaker 1: think of Anderson Cooper on CNN, maybe you don't watch,
- 6:37Speaker 1: I totally understand that he's a smooth interviewer, and he's
- 6:41Speaker 1: very smooth on air. It takes a lot to rattle
- 6:43Speaker 1: him think that this at the time. This is back
- 6:46Speaker 1: in radio days, back then, and we were just flabbergasted
- 6:49Speaker 1: that he was flabergasted because this was such a kooky
- 6:52Speaker 1: comment from her at at the end of this.
- 6:55Speaker 5: You know what, I think most people think of rape
- 6:57Speaker 5: as I mean, it is a violent assault.
- 7:00Speaker 4: I think most people think of rapist being sexy. Let's
- 7:04Speaker 4: take a short break, think of the fantasies.
- 7:08Speaker 1: We go to take a quick break. If you can
- 7:10Speaker 1: stick around and we'll talk more on the other side.
- 7:12Speaker 4: You're fascinating to talk to.
- 7:16Speaker 1: It was so bizarre, he didn't even know how to recover. Again,
- 7:19Speaker 1: I'll say it's one of the smoothest broadcasters in history.
- 7:23Speaker 1: It takes a lot to throw Intererson Cooper, and it
- 7:26Speaker 1: was such a bizarre statement, first of all, saying, I
- 7:29Speaker 1: think most people think rape is sexy, and then you're
- 7:31Speaker 1: fascinating to talk to. He was just begging, and you know,
- 7:34Speaker 1: there was a producer in his ear going get out
- 7:36Speaker 1: of this. She's insane, Get out of this, Get out
- 7:38Speaker 1: of this. And he tried. And then she says that
- 7:40Speaker 1: you're fascinating to talk to, and even he had to
- 7:42Speaker 1: laugh out loud. So that's what we're talking about here. Now.
- 7:45Speaker 1: At the time, you couldn't dare question her because remember
- 7:47Speaker 1: we were still just coming out of a believe all
- 7:49Speaker 1: women phase, right that was pushing that was the next
- 7:53Speaker 1: incarnation of the Me too movement. You weren't allowed to
- 7:56Speaker 1: question anybody, even as recently as that interview, right, So
- 8:00Speaker 1: you couldn't do it, even women who accused people of
- 8:03Speaker 1: horrible things. A former president at the time of horrible things.
- 8:06Speaker 1: You weren't allowed to question her credibility at all. Well
- 8:08Speaker 1: now you can, and certainly the Department of Justices. So
- 8:12Speaker 1: after all this, going back in time a little bit again,
- 8:15Speaker 1: President Trump, believe it or not, of all the things
- 8:17Speaker 1: that have happened on the advice of his lawyers. He
- 8:20Speaker 1: said the least amount about this case, but his lawyer
- 8:23Speaker 1: certainly did. This is one of the many appeals. This
- 8:25Speaker 1: is like a year and a half ago.
- 8:26Speaker 5: Good morning, y'all. My name is Will Sharf. I'm one
- 8:28Speaker 5: of President Trump's attorneys. Today we presented oral argument before
- 8:32Speaker 5: the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit
- 8:35Speaker 5: in one of two cases brought against President Trump by
- 8:37Speaker 5: Ejen Carroll. Now, it's really important to remember that Egen
- 8:41Speaker 5: Carroll's story at its heart is an utterly implausible he said.
- 8:45Speaker 5: She said story there is.
- 8:48Speaker 1: This is pretty much what his legal team had said
- 8:50Speaker 1: from the very beginning. He said, she said, it's not this.
- 8:52Speaker 1: The judgment was ridiculous, hailed by a hero as the
- 8:54Speaker 1: left all and then we get to it. Okay, So
- 8:56Speaker 1: now went back to CNN and Current Day for a second.
- 8:59Speaker 1: They've already right their very first headline. They said, it's
- 9:02Speaker 1: the Trump DOJ going after one of his enemies. Okay,
- 9:05Speaker 1: forget the fact that this is a very non credible
- 9:07Speaker 1: witness going after him. That's okay. So what do they do?
- 9:10Speaker 6: Then?
- 9:10Speaker 1: They start lining up Last night, all the guests hit
- 9:12Speaker 1: and then they start bringing in the politicians. Here's Adam Smith,
- 9:17Speaker 1: a Democrat congressman from Washington State.
- 9:19Speaker 6: I wondering what your reaction to this news.
- 9:22Speaker 3: Is the Trump Justice Department launching an investigation to Egene Carroll.
- 9:25Speaker 6: Yeah, well, first of all, I agree with your previous
- 9:27Speaker 6: guests legal analysis. I guess I'd be more outraged by it.
- 9:31Speaker 6: This is an unbelievable abuse of power and a continuation
- 9:35Speaker 6: of an abusive power by this president. He is using
- 9:38Speaker 6: our government. Keep in mind, the Justice Department. It's not
- 9:40Speaker 6: Donald Trump's. It belongs to the people of this country.
- 9:43Speaker 6: He is using the Justice Department to persecute people he
- 9:46Speaker 6: doesn't like. Is unbelieved.
- 9:49Speaker 1: That's the spin you're gonna hear. You already heard it
- 9:50Speaker 1: last night as soon as the story broke and they
- 9:52Speaker 1: brought on all the guests and the congressman, and to
- 9:54Speaker 1: say that he's going after people he doesn't like. Okay,
- 9:57Speaker 1: of course that's going to be the spin. And because
- 9:59Speaker 1: it was a late breaking story last night, you're gonna
- 10:01Speaker 1: hear that all day, probably all day tomorrow into the weekend.
- 10:05Speaker 1: That's how they're going to attack this story, right, Okay,
- 10:07Speaker 1: that's fine. Really, here's the question, though, is this an
- 10:09Speaker 1: abusive power or was it the original case brought against
- 10:13Speaker 1: him the abusive power? Which was it? That's the question
- 10:16Speaker 1: to ask, because I'll say it again, and I know
- 10:18Speaker 1: I said this in the introduction, but even if it
- 10:20Speaker 1: was pick any president ever, if it was Obama, if
- 10:23Speaker 1: it was Biden, God, Jimmy Carter, if it was Ronald Reagan,
- 10:27Speaker 1: I don't care any of them. If it was Biden,
- 10:30Speaker 1: if somebody was accused of something this heinous, with such
- 10:32Speaker 1: a flimsy accusation, and quite frankly, and I think this
- 10:35Speaker 1: totally needs to be said now, an absolute kookie Duke's
- 10:39Speaker 1: witness who was bringing these charges against him in New York,
- 10:44Speaker 1: which is hard to get a trial, a jury anywhere
- 10:47Speaker 1: it's gonna give Donald Trump any any fair judgment. I
- 10:52Speaker 1: think it's completely completely plausible to actually attack her as
- 10:56Speaker 1: a witness and an accuser. Why do you say that, Bill,
- 11:00Speaker 1: I don't know here now. When she did a victory
- 11:02Speaker 1: parade after getting this initial judgment before it was appealed,
- 11:05Speaker 1: she could not stop doing interviews. I could not saying,
- 11:09Speaker 1: could not stop saying, even crazier, I know.
- 11:11Speaker 4: My own pleasures and they don't and that doesn't that
- 11:16Speaker 4: doesn't involve buying things. Where my pleasure comes is making
- 11:20Speaker 4: him so pissed off he can't think. We need to
- 11:25Speaker 4: prick his little balloon constantly. And one of the ways
- 11:29Speaker 4: to do that is to give his money to women's
- 11:34Speaker 4: reproductive rights. Hell yeah, to binding up the wounds of democracy.
- 11:42Speaker 1: It needs to be said now, most of us said
- 11:44Speaker 1: it at the time, but now that this is, you know,
- 11:46Speaker 1: an accuser officially being probe by the Department of Justice,
- 11:50Speaker 1: that woman's insane and I'm sorry, I don't care who
- 11:52Speaker 1: it is. If you're accusing a former president again original accusations,
- 11:56Speaker 1: Trump was out of office at the time. If you're
- 11:57Speaker 1: accusing a former president, a guy that everybody knew was
- 12:01Speaker 1: going to run for president again, you've got to make
- 12:03Speaker 1: sure that this is a This is an accuser, completely
- 12:05Speaker 1: and totally on the up and up. There's not anybody
- 12:08Speaker 1: that is telling you the truth that would actually say
- 12:10Speaker 1: that that person is of right mind. I'm sorry, it's
- 12:14Speaker 1: just true, and it's relevant to the case. This isn't
- 12:16Speaker 1: just a personal story of two people you don't know.
- 12:18Speaker 1: This is the president and the leader of the free world. Okay,
- 12:22Speaker 1: you have to have a credible witness. But there's even
- 12:24Speaker 1: more than that, I think, and just reading the tea leaves,
- 12:28Speaker 1: which we always try to do now, to read through
- 12:30Speaker 1: the headlines and the spin and the reason why outlets
- 12:33Speaker 1: like CNN and all the other media outlets, it wasn't
- 12:35Speaker 1: just them are so worked up about this and they're
- 12:37Speaker 1: starting the spin and reframing this as political revenge. Why
- 12:40Speaker 1: is that? Why? Why was this so damaging? Well, you
- 12:43Speaker 1: know why, because then all of a sudden they could
- 12:46Speaker 1: run on He's a rapist, he's a felon, he hates women,
- 12:49Speaker 1: he's violent, he's a liar, he's They pinned the character
- 12:53Speaker 1: assassination of candidate again Trump and President Trump a lot
- 12:59Speaker 1: on this case. It's exactly what they did. A lot
- 13:02Speaker 1: was writing on this. This is why it's so important.
- 13:04Speaker 1: But how does this person come out of the woodwork
- 13:07Speaker 1: in the twenty twenties an accusation of something that allegedly
- 13:11Speaker 1: happened in the nineteen nineties. How does she all of
- 13:13Speaker 1: a sudden appear did be honest, did anybody any of
- 13:16Speaker 1: us ever hear of who the hell Ejen Carroll was
- 13:19Speaker 1: or is before these accusations came out accusations of something
- 13:23Speaker 1: that happened in the nineties, but you're hearing about him
- 13:25Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. What No, the reason why that
- 13:30Speaker 1: happened is because she was put there by very very
- 13:33Speaker 1: powerful people to go after President Trump. That's the political
- 13:36Speaker 1: revenge that they're going after, not the DOJ going after
- 13:40Speaker 1: a very very flimsy accuser and a lunatic. That's what
- 13:44Speaker 1: the That was the political revenge that should have happened
- 13:46Speaker 1: at the time. She never should have even gotten to
- 13:48Speaker 1: that point. So who would be powerful enough who would
- 13:51Speaker 1: actually put her to the forefront to make her this,
- 13:55Speaker 1: you know, pretend to form her into this what they
- 13:58Speaker 1: thought was a credible accuser of President Trump, of former
- 14:02Speaker 1: President Trump. There's very very powerful people with a lot
- 14:06Speaker 1: of money, and this guy happens to be Reid Hoffman.
- 14:09Speaker 1: And this is what I think this is all about. This,
- 14:11Speaker 1: I think is what the Department of Justice is really
- 14:14Speaker 1: going after. She's just a pawn. She's just an out
- 14:16Speaker 1: of her mind, lunatic pawn being used by very powerful
- 14:21Speaker 1: and very very wealthy political operatives to take out President Trump, who,
- 14:27Speaker 1: in this case Reid Hoffman, billionaire Democratic mega donor, incredibly
- 14:33Speaker 1: smart guy, another guy from the tech world who hates Trump.
- 14:38Speaker 1: It has come to light that Reid Hoffman was the
- 14:41Speaker 1: main backer and the funder of Egene Carroll. Oh, isn't
- 14:44Speaker 1: that interesting. But at the time, and once again we
- 14:46Speaker 1: got to go back to a previous CNN interview, she
- 14:48Speaker 1: forgot to mention that she got to mention her name.
- 14:51Speaker 1: You tell me whether this is a person being truthful
- 14:54Speaker 1: or not. Conveniently forgot to mention that she's being backed by,
- 14:57Speaker 1: funded by, and pushed to the forefront of a very
- 15:00Speaker 1: powerful political force. That's what I think this is all.
- 15:03Speaker 5: Another thing that he and his Laurias have often spoken
- 15:05Speaker 5: about is the lack of disclosure about a big Democratic
- 15:09Speaker 5: donor funding part of this case.
- 15:11Speaker 6: Was there a reason it wasn't disclosed?
- 15:12Speaker 1: And did you view this as political.
- 15:14Speaker 5: In any way? No?
- 15:16Speaker 4: I just completely forget. I just completely forgot that he
- 15:21Speaker 4: even existed.
- 15:23Speaker 2: In your deposition, yes, in my deposition.
- 15:26Speaker 1: Hmm. This is the person that reached out to you
- 15:30Speaker 1: through his sources and said, hey, you know, yeah, he
- 15:33Speaker 1: had this. You've set up before in casual circles, in
- 15:36Speaker 1: at cocktail parties that you've told this story that Donald
- 15:39Speaker 1: Trump accosted you at a department store in Manhattan back
- 15:42Speaker 1: in the nineties. Tell me a little bit more about that.
- 15:45Speaker 1: Can we, you know, talk to me about that? And
- 15:47Speaker 1: I think we have a case here. We're gonna, we're
- 15:48Speaker 1: gonna introduce you to my legal team, or we're gonna
- 15:50Speaker 1: we're gonna make a thing out of this. Then all
- 15:53Speaker 1: of a sudden, she's got all this attention that she
- 15:55Speaker 1: forgets the guy that was behind backing her all of
- 15:57Speaker 1: a sudden magically. Does that seem like a credible witness
- 16:00Speaker 1: to you? Does that seem like anybody that should be
- 16:03Speaker 1: in a position to accuse at the time, a former
- 16:07Speaker 1: president and the guy that they were deathly afraid of
- 16:09Speaker 1: running for president again of such a heinous accusation as rape.
- 16:13Speaker 1: Is that a credible witness? Nobody should want somebody like
- 16:17Speaker 1: that accusing any of our presidents of that. I don't
- 16:19Speaker 1: care who the president is. The least credible witness of
- 16:22Speaker 1: our accuser of all time, that's what this is about.
- 16:25Speaker 1: And going after the people that funded her and the
- 16:27Speaker 1: political operatives, I think, and I think that's why Acting
- 16:30Speaker 1: Attorney General Todd blanche accused himself too. So it would
- 16:33Speaker 1: take off, they would take off this veil of political revenge.
- 16:37Speaker 1: It's just trump'ste oje, which is in the headlines Trump's
- 16:39Speaker 1: doj going after his enemies or people he doesn't like.
- 16:42Speaker 1: That's what you're going to hear. But really, what is it.
- 16:45Speaker 1: It's going after the political revenge. That's what they're doing it.
- 16:49Speaker 1: She never should have even gotten to that point ever,
- 16:51Speaker 1: should this thing have even been heard? So and here
- 16:55Speaker 1: a lot of people who still believe it. It's terrible.
- 16:57Speaker 1: He's going after his enemies. Whenever you hear that, you
- 17:00Speaker 1: hear somebody in your social circle, or in your family
- 17:03Speaker 1: or at work saying that just counter with this, Well,
- 17:07Speaker 1: wasn't her accusation political revenge? And just leave it at that.
- 17:10Speaker 1: It's a fascinating thing to watch you. It's a sordid
- 17:13Speaker 1: tail in so many I mean, accuse anybody of that
- 17:16Speaker 1: horrific crime, it's awful, But then to do it with
- 17:19Speaker 1: a completely offer rocker, non credible accuser, and then to
- 17:26Speaker 1: say that this is just by by clearing that up,
- 17:29Speaker 1: this is just political revenge. The whole thing is hideous.
- 17:32Speaker 1: But we may get some answers out of this about
- 17:35Speaker 1: the real political revenge. We'll see, We'll see what happens fascinating. Unfortunately,
- 17:39Speaker 1: it's not a story. This is so big because they're
- 17:41Speaker 1: so shaken by this over on the left. It's not
- 17:43Speaker 1: going to go away anytime soon. It's just not. They
- 17:45Speaker 1: are already spinning up the the framing of this to
- 17:48Speaker 1: make it just about political revenge and Trump going after
- 17:51Speaker 1: his enemies. Get ready for it, you know better. All right,
- 17:53Speaker 1: I'm out of here, I'm out of material. Sorry you
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