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Assassin Arrested, Jay Z Sued, UFOs and Fake Housewives with Kate Casey · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on
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  Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: Today I have returned guest, a real friend, also a
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  Speaker 2: podcasting friend, Kate Casey from Reality Life with Kate Casey.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Juicy Scoop. Thank you. Good to be back.
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  Speaker 3: Good to be back.
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  Speaker 2: My gosh, we've known each other for a long time.
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  Speaker 3: I know, like almost a decade now.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: To remind you, because you know I have a weird memory.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Incredible memory. So I think that somehow I found you
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  Speaker 2: on Twitter or you tagged me or you sent something
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  Speaker 2: to me.
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  Speaker 3: I tagged you on Twitter.
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  Speaker 2: And you would take Real Housewives episodes and write the
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  Speaker 2: most hilarious, dramatic recaps, almost like I was reading Shakespearean
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  Speaker 2: cliff notes. Right. Where it's like, and then so-and-so whispered
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  Speaker 2: and they were conniving behind someone's back. And I was like,
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  Speaker 2: this is so funny. And then we would talk on
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  Speaker 2: the phone all the time. And then you were like,
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  Speaker 2: how do I get more people to read this blog?
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, no one's reading a blog. You need to
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  Speaker 2: do a podcast.
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  Speaker 3: That's right. Yep. That's exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: And now look at you, all grown up.
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  Speaker 3: Now look at me.
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  Speaker 2: All grown up, successful show for so many years. Um,
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  Speaker 2: everyone loves your show and mother of five.
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  Speaker 3: Mother of five.
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  Speaker 2: Still married to the first husband.
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  Speaker 3: No, the second one.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wait.
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  Speaker 3: Remember there was the first one?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you had a little starter marriage.
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  Speaker 3: I had a starter marriage.
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  Speaker 2: For those that don't know, a starter marriage is when
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  Speaker 2: you get married and you don't stay very long and
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  Speaker 2: you don't have any kids. And then you have a
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  Speaker 2: second marriage in which you stay, it produces kids. So
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  Speaker 2: you're five kids.
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  Speaker 3: Or with one baby dad. My son, who's my number two,
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  Speaker 3: just said to number three the other day, you know,
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  Speaker 3: mom was married before.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that always freaks kids out. When something like that,
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  Speaker 2: they don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, God, this is uncomfortable. And she went, oh, okay.
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  Speaker 3: And then they rolled through it. They didn't think it
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  Speaker 3: was a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: That is so funny. That is so crazy when a
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  Speaker 2: kid doesn't know. Okay, well, we've got a lot of
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  Speaker 2: things to discuss.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Crazy things have happened. Let's get into
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  Speaker 2: they have arrested the person of suspect or whatever, of interest,
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  Speaker 2: strong interest. This good-looking guy who is supposedly, allegedly the
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  Speaker 2: assassin of the CEO of UnitedHealthcare. You know the story.
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  Speaker 2: Shot in broad daylight. He died. He was 50. He
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  Speaker 2: and his wife were living separately.
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  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: People were talking that she didn't seem overly upset. Well,
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  Speaker 2: how do they know? There were so many weird things.
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  Speaker 3: Someone called the house and asked for her statement, and
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  Speaker 3: she gave a short one. Would you want someone to, like,
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  Speaker 3: sob on the phone?
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  Speaker 2: She's probably in shock. And then, of course, there are
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  Speaker 2: so many, like, videos of guys that looked like this
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  Speaker 2: guy wearing the outfit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Doing little funny parodies like coming home with a backpack
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  Speaker 2: and someone being like, I don't think you should be
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  Speaker 2: wearing that jacket. And this kind of thing. The jacket
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  Speaker 2: is on sale at Macy's right now. Macy's. Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: And he was... went to Ivy League school.
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  Speaker 3: He went to Gilman, which is an incredible school in Baltimore.
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  Speaker 3: It's $ 40, 000 a year.
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  Speaker 2: That's high school.
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  Speaker 3: And he was a valedictorian.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And then he went to UPenn.
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  Speaker 2: But he was an anti-capitalist and follower of a lot
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  Speaker 2: of things.
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  Speaker 3: Well, two things. One is that he had grandparents that
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  Speaker 3: died in 2013, 2017 that Some have said that may
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  Speaker 3: be part of.
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  Speaker 2: This bigger story. What triggered his hatred for this, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody also went, you know, they scour the internet when
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  Speaker 3: they find out who somebody is. And someone found his
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  Speaker 3: Goodreads account, which is this.
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  Speaker 2: What is that?
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  Speaker 3: It's like a website where you can rate books and
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  Speaker 3: give your reviews. And he gave four stars to a
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  Speaker 3: book about Ted Kaczynski, who is the infamous Unabomber. So
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  Speaker 3: it'll be interesting to unload, like, what happened to this guy?
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  Speaker 3: How do you go from Gilman and UPenn to an
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  Speaker 3: anti-capitalist who is capable of something like this?
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  Speaker 2: And with the Monopoly money.
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  Speaker 3: What was that about?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: That is so weird.
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  Speaker 2: And then also the bullets being engraved, denied, opposed. What
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  Speaker 2: is it? Declined, denied, opposed. And I guess that was
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  Speaker 2: a title of a book.
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  Speaker 3: A book about insurance.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And what was weird, though, from the beginning was
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  Speaker 2: originally it looked like he was wearing a black jacket
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  Speaker 2: with a very light tan shirt. backpack then they said
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  Speaker 2: we found the backpack and the backpack was black or
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  Speaker 2: dark gray and then the jacket was said to be
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  Speaker 2: green it was like there was a lot of that
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  Speaker 2: where before this arrest that happened um just you know
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  Speaker 2: this morning they were kind of there were people speculating
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  Speaker 2: like what is this is this yeah you know and
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  Speaker 2: they're like we're looking for him there's a ten thousand
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  Speaker 2: dollar reward and everyone's like only ten thousand dollars like
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  Speaker 2: They were surprising.
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  Speaker 4: $ 10, 000.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't really seem like much.
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  Speaker 2: Are they even trying to find him? And then the
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  Speaker 2: city bike thing and then the hostel and going to
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  Speaker 2: Starbucks and McDonald's and like also being good looking. And
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  Speaker 2: then they did the lookalike contest, like just like they
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  Speaker 2: had done with Timothee Chalamet. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They did.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I called my one friend and he used to
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  Speaker 3: be a Capitol Hill cop. And I asked him, what
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  Speaker 3: do you thought? Because at first it looked like somebody who.
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  Speaker 3: seemed like blue eyed and a little bit more fair.
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  Speaker 3: And then when they showed the picture of the assassin smiling,
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  Speaker 3: it looked like two different people. So I asked him
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  Speaker 3: what he thought. And he said, the New York City
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  Speaker 3: Police Department is not only incredible, but there are cameras
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  Speaker 3: throughout that city. And there are three steps ahead. So
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  Speaker 3: even when they say they're still looking for someone, they
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  Speaker 3: probably already know the identity. And that is also to
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  Speaker 3: throw the person off to think, And then there were
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  Speaker 3: reports today. Like you made it.
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  Speaker 2: You're safe.
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  Speaker 3: Like you're fine.
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  Speaker 2: You're safe.
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  Speaker 3: So they trip up and make mistakes. And then someone wrote, well,
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  Speaker 3: based on this, I assess that this person's pretty arrogant. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I would assume so. So, yeah, he probably thought he
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  Speaker 3: had gotten away with it. Although the weird thing is
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  Speaker 3: they found him in Altoona, which is about 100 miles
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  Speaker 3: east of Pittsburgh. And he was found at a McDonald's.
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  Speaker 3: And it was because an elderly patron had noticed him.
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  Speaker 2: And she called in.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if it was a man or a woman,
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  Speaker 3: but they called the police and said something along the
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  Speaker 3: lines of, I think that may be the person who
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  Speaker 3: was the assassin. And they quickly brought law enforcement out
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  Speaker 3: and made an arrest. And then they found that he
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  Speaker 3: had four fake IDs. He had a silencer. What I
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  Speaker 3: thought was creepy was they said that the actual gun
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  Speaker 3: was made with a 3D printer. So that, to me,
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  Speaker 3: is terrifying. Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I feel like we are living in, like,
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  Speaker 2: a 1995 movie.
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  Speaker 4: Like.
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  Speaker 2: I know. I feel like everything is just so weird
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  Speaker 2: and bizarre. And when you were saying you had... You called...
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  Speaker 2: 9-1-1 back in the day.
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  Speaker 3: So I, on September 11th, one thing about me is
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  Speaker 3: I have this very weird thing. I have a crazy
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  Speaker 3: memory and I'm very good with details about people. So
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  Speaker 3: on 9-11, my sister was in one of the buildings,
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  Speaker 3: World Trade Center 7, so I was fixated on all
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  Speaker 3: the news reports.
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  Speaker 2: But she's fine.
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  Speaker 3: But they showed the first pictures from the first plane
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  Speaker 3: that was hit. And I immediately recognized Mohammed Atta, who
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  Speaker 3: was the lead terrorist. And I had remembered exactly where
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  Speaker 3: I was. I lived in this apartment complex when I
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  Speaker 3: was with the first husband who was in the military
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  Speaker 3: in Virginia Beach. It was this apartment complex called Runaway
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  Speaker 3: Bay Apartments. And across the street was this sort of
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  Speaker 3: like a mom and pop kind of mail depot. And
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  Speaker 3: I paid, turned around and walked past him. And it
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  Speaker 3: was like seared into my memory. It was the way
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  Speaker 3: he looked at me. I remember I actually walked away
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  Speaker 3: and said out loud, well, that guy doesn't like me.
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  Speaker 3: It was like that kind of experience where you're like
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  Speaker 3: you could tell someone is just really quite hateful. And
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  Speaker 3: so when you called– I called on 9-11 because I
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  Speaker 3: called my mom.
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  Speaker 2: On the actual day.
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  Speaker 3: I called my mother and said I know exactly where
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  Speaker 3: I was when I saw that man. And she said
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  Speaker 3: call the FBI. So I called the FBI, the regional office.
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  Speaker 3: I said I saw him on April 3rd. It was
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  Speaker 3: at this spot and– And it was about six months later,
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  Speaker 3: there was a news report in Virginia Beach that he
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  Speaker 3: had been staying at a hotel that was about a
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  Speaker 3: quarter of a mile from that mail depot in my
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  Speaker 3: apartment complex in Virginia Beach. And then years later, I
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  Speaker 3: interviewed this oral biographer of 9-11. And in the research
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  Speaker 3: for that, prepping for that interview, I found this news
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  Speaker 3: clip that had said that they had assessed that he
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  Speaker 3: and another terrorist had been living in Virginia Beach. What
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  Speaker 3: they wanted to do was fill a vessel with explosives
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  Speaker 3: and go into the port in Norfolk. But it said
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: something in the article like a tip about April 3,
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  Speaker 3: 2001 led to them sort of unraveling this whole story.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, did that make you feel good?
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  Speaker 3: Kind of, but it makes you just realize even with
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  Speaker 3: this story that I think especially now where we are
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  Speaker 3: so attuned to true crime stories that we're all sort
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  Speaker 3: of like part of this like citizen justice movement.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Where I think people are paying far more attention than
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  Speaker 3: they have ever paid before and kind of want to
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  Speaker 3: feel like they're part of solving something.
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  Speaker 2: There was the whole, you know, see something, say something
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  Speaker 2: would happen after 9-11, but then it became seen as
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  Speaker 2: you know, don't be racist. And then there was the whole,
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  Speaker 2: then we didn't want to be accused of being a Karen.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And now I feel like Karens are going to come back.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're going to make a comeback and people
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  Speaker 2: are going to realize that you want a Karen around.
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  Speaker 2: You want a couple Karens around to get some shit
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  Speaker 2: done and to.
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  Speaker 3: Now you think about that assassin that was in McDonald's, like.
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  Speaker 3: Did he have more plans? We don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Did he have other people on his list?
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  Speaker 3: That person at McDonald's.
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  Speaker 2: Just squelched that plan. Yeah. Because essentially, to not be
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  Speaker 2: a Karen is to mind your own business and move
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  Speaker 2: the fuck along. Well, if you mind your own business
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  Speaker 2: and move the fuck along, then yeah, then you're not calling.
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  Speaker 2: So sometimes, sometimes a hero can be a Karen.
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  Speaker 3: At McDonald's.
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  Speaker 2: At McDonald's. Yeah. Yeah, so we'll see what goes on. Now, okay,
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  Speaker 2: there's more Diddy news. This was a crazy sketch. This
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  Speaker 2: person posted it. It's called V. March Banks. Posted this
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  Speaker 2: video that was on MADtv. And said this was 16
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  Speaker 2: years ago. And it's a sketch on MADtv, and I
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  Speaker 2: watched it. It's shocking, okay? So it's a parody of
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  Speaker 2: Hannah Montana. So one girl is playing Hannah Montana and
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  Speaker 2: the other girl is playing her friend.
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  Speaker 3: It's not Mo Collins, is it?
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  Speaker 2: No. I forgot the two girls' names. But anyway, so
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  Speaker 2: one is. And so you see like the opening, Hannah Montana.
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  Speaker 2: And the one girl goes, you know, where were you
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  Speaker 2: last night? You know, and they do this dumb dialogue
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  Speaker 2: of that. Oh, and, you know, in the day I'm
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  Speaker 2: a middle school student, but at night I'm a pop star. Well,
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  Speaker 2: after the award show, since she's a secret pop star,
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  Speaker 2: this is what the character says. I went to a P.
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  Speaker 2: Diddy party. And they literally, in this sketch, basically share everything.
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  Speaker 2: And this one star, they say Matthew McConaughey made me
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  Speaker 2: smell his armpit. Where there are rumors that that's Leonardo DiCaprio.
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  Speaker 2: That that's something that he does. And in all of
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  Speaker 2: these things that were going on 16 years ago, this
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  Speaker 2: sketch from MADtv... depicts it oh my gosh with people
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  Speaker 2: creepy stuff and girls dancing and eating off of girls
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  Speaker 2: and all this other kind of stuff and then hannah
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  Speaker 2: montana is there and the comments are like oh my
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  Speaker 2: god well of course when you're a hollywood writer you
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  Speaker 2: do know a lot of shit right and you know
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  Speaker 2: and it's and that's why people are like how did
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  Speaker 2: the simpsons know this or how are these things in
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  Speaker 2: here and it's like But this is so dead on.
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  Speaker 3: It is crazy. Sometimes you have to hide the truth
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  Speaker 3: in comedy because that's the only way people can take it.
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  Speaker 2: And then I was saying I saw another thing that
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  Speaker 2: someone posted from an episode of Ellen. Well, you know,
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: Ellen had P. Diddy on so much. They're really good friends.
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  Speaker 2: And there's old videos of him with Twitch. Rest in peace.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people still wonder what went on with Twitch.
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  Speaker 2: And Ellen, and he's like, you know, Ellen, you know, Ellen,
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  Speaker 2: we go way, way, way back. So you better. And
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  Speaker 2: then the camera goes and Twitch is like. Eek.
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  Speaker 3: Are you serious? Giving like a weird look.
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  Speaker 2: And she's like, I don't know what you're talking about, P. Diddy.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, boy.
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  Speaker 2: There's that clip. Then there's another one. Wow. That was like, well,
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  Speaker 2: this didn't age well. And Ellen's there with a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of kids that are clearly suffering from cancer, going through
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: cancer treatment. Young, like all of them are under like 14.
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  Speaker 2: And she's like, but, oh, I don't know who might
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  Speaker 2: be here. And then the thing's open and he's like,
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  Speaker 2: and P. Diddy comes out and the kids go running
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  Speaker 2: and hugging them. And like the comment is like, God,
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  Speaker 2: just when you thought you were safe, like this didn't
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  Speaker 2: age well. And it's just, it's amazing. It's amazing. And
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: now they say, and all this I found on TikTok.
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  Speaker 2: And now they say TikTok is going to be gone
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  Speaker 2: in January.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I've accumulated over 400,000 followers. So do you want.
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  Speaker 3: To say goodbye to them now?
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  Speaker 2: I feel okay about it. I feel like whatever is
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  Speaker 2: meant to be, life's rejection is God's protection. I spend
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  Speaker 2: so much time on it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I love it so much. And it's time that
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  Speaker 2: I get back to reading books and watching TV and
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  Speaker 2: movies again. And so I'm kind of like, if it's
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: meant to go away... then fine. Because last night, you know,
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  Speaker 2: so we'll talk about what's going on.
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  Speaker 3: You have definitely enjoyed a TikToker or two that I've
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  Speaker 3: been like, huh?
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  Speaker 2: I have found, I listen, I have found some really
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  Speaker 2: great stuff. I've also been highly criticized for bringing up
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: Tik TOK content. I, you know, no one cares about
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: Balenciaga anymore. Like that was a big deal. Now everyone's
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: buying it and acting like two years ago didn't happen.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm like, whatever. But it brings me a lot
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  Speaker 2: of joy. There's a lot of comedy on there. There's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of clever things. There's a lot of things
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  Speaker 2: that make me happy to be on it that's different
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  Speaker 2: than Instagram.
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  Speaker 3: What is going to happen to the choreographers of the world?
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  Speaker 3: Are they going to feel like this is a complete letdown?
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  Speaker 3: Because I feel like when I'm on TikTok, real success
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  Speaker 3: is being able to do a choreographed like 20 seconds.
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  Speaker 3: to like apt by like Bruno Mars.
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  Speaker 2: Well, like that's where it started. Yeah. Then it's so
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  Speaker 2: in tune with what you are into and what you like.
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  Speaker 2: I never see dances. Oh, I see a lot of comedy.
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  Speaker 2: I see a lot of like, um, feel good things.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: And then once you watch a couple of something, then
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: it keeps coming. So like whether it's the P Diddy
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: stuff or, you know, something else, then, then you get
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: a lot and you have to, and you, it's literally
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: like eating a potato chip, a bag of potatoes and
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: you have to go, Stop.
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Stop.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: It's nine 42. Okay. At nine 50, I'll stop. I'll stop.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: But then I'll come across something and I'm like, Oh,
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: that is really interesting. And I do use it here
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: cause I do bring it up.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: But, um, Christmas shopping has already started in our house.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: My daughter is so organised, already planning Christmas gifts from Macaulay.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: Hair care for her aunt and a fab fragrance for
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: her bestie. But the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: I'm an early bird, buying one present a week from
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: now till Christmas, which makes budgeting less stressful. I can
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: buy in-store or online from Macaulay.ie for home delivery or
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: free click and collect.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: So easy.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: Gifts they'll cherish at prices you'll love.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: have faced tremendous setbacks, and yet somehow have found a
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: way to turn them into their greatest strengths. Life is
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: one long lesson of chaos.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: filed against me.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: what would you do if it was given back?
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: Where did that need come from, where you thought that
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: He said, I have a work dad.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: I need a home dad.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: What happens next? When I came in, he started crying.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: happens next.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: I decided to risk it all.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I realized how valuable every day was. You're worth the work.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Anyway, let's get into the latest Diddy thing. So there
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: is a lawsuit, another lawsuit of a woman claiming that
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: at 17, she was invited to go to a party
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: with a head of P. Diddy's company said, you're really hot.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Would you like to fly on a private jet and
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: go to a party with P. Diddy? There, the story
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: is the story we've heard now a lot. Given a drink,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: made her feel woozy and was assaulted. And she was
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: 17 at the time. And in her lawsuit, they said
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: on his side, well, you can't be anonymous. And she goes, fine.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: And so there's a photo of her at the party
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: at 17. And the identity is she was National Hockey
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: League star Evander Kane's ex-wife, Anna Kane.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Such an upsetting story.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: So she's like, fine, I... I'm not going to you.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: You're making me not be anonymous. Fine. I won't be
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: anonymous because I want this to be heard. So that
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: is her story. Really disturbing. And, you know, of course, P.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Diddy's people are, you know, denying everything. But it's very
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: interesting that she was approached by. Where was she? She
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: said she was gang, R-A-P-E-D, by Diddy and others in
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: 2003 when she was just a high school junior. And
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: she was approached by Harvey Pierre, who was the president
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: of Bad Boy Entertainment at the time, told she was hot. And... Just,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: you know, horrible. So now we know that. Then another
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: thing came, the Jay-Z stuff. So now Jay-Z is being
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: named in this Busby, who's the attorney that has all
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: the cases. This girl who was 13 in 2000 said
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: she went to an after party of the MTV Movie
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Awards and that she was assaulted by Jay-Z.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: This is an amended complaint. So this was the lawsuit
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: that was filed in October. He was not named in that.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: It was just P.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: Diddy.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: And they referred to Celebrity A and B. So this
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: is an amended. So now she has chosen to name Jay-Z.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: So it was filed by an accuser identified as Jane Doe,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: and she alleges that the assault occurred at an MTV
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Video Music Awards afterparty in 2000. With an unnamed female
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: celebrity who allegedly witnessed the incident. And so she's saying
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: that it was he who did it, along with Diddy.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Yes. First, she named just Diddy and referred to celebrity
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: A and celebrity B. One was a man, one was
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: a woman. So this amended complaint she's filing, she's naming Jay-Z. Now,
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: what I thought was interesting, I worked in crisis media
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: litigation for 16 years. I found surprising his statement last
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: night that he put out.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: So his statement was, it came from him, not from
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: his attorney.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: It came from his business.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: And to summarize it, he basically said, I'm not giving
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: you one red penny. This is a letter of blackmail extortion.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: this is, you know, horrible. And if this was to
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: have really happened to a child, this shit, why is
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: this not a criminal complaint? You're just, you know, going
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: after my money. Now I have to explain to my
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: own three kids that there's these allegations out there and
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: shame on you. And I'm not, um, so, and why
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: do you think that's right? Cause I actually disagree. I
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: actually think it's kind of, I thought it was kind
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: of good for whether it's true or not. I thought
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: it was kind of a good move.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I did not because it looked like he was a
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: noncompliant client because he has a fantastic law firm. I
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: would assume that they were so confused.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Who was a noncompliant?
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Jay-Z. He seemed to me in that statement like a
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: noncompliant client.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: What does that mean?
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Meaning like they're not listening to legal counsel. Counsel would
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: probably say to him, Let us prepare a statement.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Let us work through this statement. He put out a
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: very lengthy statement. It was very personal. There were capital
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: words in it, exclamation marks. It did not look professional.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: It looked like it was sent right out, highly emotional.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Legal counsel would never recommend doing that. So that makes
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: me think if he's not going to take advice on
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: a press release, is he listening to his counsel?
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: But I would say if you want to believe Jay-Z
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: that he is innocent, as someone who's been reading all
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: this and hearing all the, you know, accounts from the
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: TikTok to the Jaguar right to all this, he's been
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: named a lot in the last couple months. A lot
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: of stories have been thrown around. I'm sure.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: And it's probably emotional, but you should still put out
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: a professional press statement. That's not the way I would
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: have worded it if I was his counsel.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Right. I mean, I was on Lala's show, Lala Kent's show,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: and we talked a little bit about it. And she
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: said when she was out here visiting from Utah, she
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: was like 16 having lunch with somebody. And this guy,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: it was like at a restaurant like in Santa Monica.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: And a car went by and they were like sitting
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: out where you could see her. And then the car
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: came around. The guy got out and said, do you
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: want to go to a Jay-Z party tonight? She might
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: have even been like 14. Anyway, she didn't go. But now,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, I believe that happened to Lala. Was this
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: guy lying? Was he really going to bring her to
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Poo Poo's party? Like, you know, he just throwing this
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: guy's name around? I don't know. But there's so many
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: accounts of young girls saying that they had something to
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: do with him or he was participatory or whatever. And
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: so I think if I was going to be pro-Jay-Z,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: I would say this is the man who was passionate
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: because he was like, alright, this is a frickin' enough.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit here with all these rumors
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: that are swirling around the internet. This is bullshit. I've
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: never done anything like this. Screw all these people that
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: are jumping on the bandwagon and speaking like this isn't true.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not even talking to a lawyer because I am
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: screaming from the rooftops that I didn't do this.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: You can write a response where you refute it, but
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: I would have worded it so it was, first of all,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: far less. It wouldn't be as lengthy. And it just
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: seemed like it was rambling. I'm telling you, as I'm saying,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: it makes me wonder. I worked with a lot of
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: attorneys who worked with high profile clients and they were
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: noncompliant clients. And that's really hard.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I would disagree that he did have help writing this.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I think it's really weird that he was like, you're
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: a Marine, and Marine meaning the attorney is a Marine,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: and you are a Marine.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: You think someone helped him write that?
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: I do not.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: I do. Because I was like bringing up that made
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: people think, yeah, bring up the Marine thing that you
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: respect military, and then you'll get those people for you.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Well, maybe not a professional person helped him.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: No, that's what I'm saying. Maybe not a professional person.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: But that's not in agreement to what your counsel would
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: tell you to do. He is a very– successful person.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: He has a number of attorneys. He has managers. He
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: has lots of people who would never want him to
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: go off script. So that's surprising to me.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So we will see. Because, you know, these are
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: all things that I've heard. Now, P. Diddy attended the
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: 2000 Music Video Awards. I don't know if they went
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: together or But, you know, at the time he was
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: dating J-Lo and J-Lo's been mentioned. Where was she during
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: all this time? You know, that's when she was wearing
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: like the white headband and the pants and everything. Doesn't
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: mean that she was there. Doesn't mean this is true. Whatever. But,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: you know, there's stories swirling around her. Well, at one point, well,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: she like put out a statement like enough of this bullshit.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Like I dated him for a little bit. I realized
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: he was bad news. That's why we broke up and
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: nothing happened.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Unless she's named in a lawsuit.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: There really is no.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Reason why she is because she hasn't been named in anything.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: So isn't it wild in the year 2024? We are
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: now fixated on an award show that happened in 2000.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Like people are going to be looking through all of
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: that footage, like the Zapruder film, looking to see who attended.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: And what happened. And it's 24 years ago.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's. And you know who's doing that? The people
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: on TikTok.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no kidding. Right.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Also on TikTok. So last night. I got down this
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: hole of all these people in New Jersey and other
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: cities that for the last couple of days have been
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: filming what they say are SUV sized. drones they believe
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: they're drones but they're like that big go you know
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: where they can see them like load like too low
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: to be an airplane in their neighborhoods however the film
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: it's hard to see it's not great footage and everyone
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: and the comments are like what in the iphone 4
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: is this like what like what is who's felt what
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: and so then everyone's like is this a conspiracy theory
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: are these even real people that are filming it like
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: are they like what is the whole point and so
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: There's a conspiracy that no one should be worried. There
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: is no UFOs coming. This isn't another country. This isn't
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: China or Russia. This is this other thing called the
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: blue something, which was this theory that came out in
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: the 90s that's like the world's governments will get together
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: and they will stage a alien invention and this is
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: conspiracy I am not saying I believe this I am
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: telling you what's out there so you could because I'm
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: like I'm looking at this nobody's texting me and going
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Heather are you scared that we're going to die tomorrow
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: like there's literally videos and I saw one for Orange
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: County I saw one in all it wasn't just New
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Jersey and I'm like so then I see this one
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: where they actually made a statement Okay. But then also
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know, is this real?
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's South Jersey? Well, maybe. I'm from Philly, so
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: that is possible.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: 48 drones, SUV size, blinking lights. And they're just like,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: nobody's worried. The military's not getting involved, but they're also
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: not saying, hey, it's us. They're not saying it's another country. Yeah.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: It's just sophisticated drones, I'm sure. Listen, think of the
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: flying saucers of the 50s and the UFO sightings. They
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: all look the same. And now you look back at
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: it and it looks just like a basic military kind
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: of like science project. I think that governments have sophisticated
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: technology that we couldn't even conceive of that they probably,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: you know, use at times. But I think this really
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: actually is a drone. There's a company that just announced
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: that they're going to start to deliver food by drone.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: So I think just people are not familiar with this
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: sort of reality. Lots of things are going to be
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: delivered by drones now.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, so the other weird thing I saw that I
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: thought was interesting is they said there was this big,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: this same type of thing happened where they saw, people
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: saw flying things in like the late 1800s. Okay. And
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: they thought it was aliens and everything. And the theories
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: behind that is shortly after... The airplanes were invented. And
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: so they said what they think is that these images,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: whatever they were, were put out there to make society
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: get used to flying won't be scary. One day we'll
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: be flying. So in watching this, I was like, maybe
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: this is to make people get used to the fact
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: that in a very short time, I might be able
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: to get into a one-person drone plane Probably. And fly
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: to La Quinta by myself in two hours.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: And I am totally down for that.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Right. Well, I'm down with just getting my food delivered
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: by a drone right now, here and now.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: So, yeah. So, yeah. I don't know if it's ET. Okay.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Have you heard what happened to the Huk Tui girl? No. Well,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: she announced that she was going to have her own,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: you know, Bitcoin. Bitcoin.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Is Bitcoin and cryptocurrency, that's all the same thing, right?
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know. And by the way, I feel like
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: I've watched four documentaries on crypto and Bitcoin and I'm
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: still confused. I still don't totally understand it. And by
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: the way, I don't think most people do. It's very shady.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: I think it's sort of like a Ponzi scheme in
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: that you put some money in, you see it, it
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: looks like you're getting more and more money back. So
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: you put some more in and then it's all gone.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look at, Real Housewives of New Jersey,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: or New York, you have a couple that had Bitcoin,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: and then he sold it off. Yeah, I don't know
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: one person that's been like, I'm killing the game in Bitcoin.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Do you know anyone that's been successful in Bitcoin?
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: No, and then I also remember the, okay, so this
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: week is Art Basel. Yeah. And I remember a couple
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: years ago, I was talking to Ali Shapiro, Jill Zarin's daughter,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: and And that was when people were buying NFTs.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Which is the stupidest. So where is that now?
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: It's like, no one. Gone, baby, gone.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: The art and NFT thing is gone. Yeah, I think
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: that's gone. Okay. So with this, she's like, I got
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: a hot tui coin or whatever. And it like exploded.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: And then it went down like 90% or whatever. So,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: but in doing it, whatever the company was, made a
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: lot of money on the exchange fees of buying and
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: selling and buying and selling. That's where they made the money.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Just like if you were to buy a ticket to
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Live Nation, there's a transaction fee. So even if you
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: don't go or even if you sell it to someone else,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: they still got the initial whatever, $ 8. So that is.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: How I understand it. And so now it's down to nothing.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: And some people were saying, Oh, what she did was
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: illegal and she could be in trouble. And other people
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: say it just makes her going to be on cancer,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: get canceled. I feel like no one can remember anything
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: from yesterday. So she was probably fine this week.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: She's fine. She'll be back next week. She'll write a book.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: She'll be fine. Does anyone know her real name? Is
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: that for the rest of her life? She'll just be
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: referred to as that. Does she have to change her
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: kids' last names to fit that?
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, I don't. But
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I think, wait, yeah. But, I mean, yeah, she's got
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: a podcast like anybody else and doing fine in life.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Let's talk about it.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: This is really everyone's favorite show. Everyone is thoroughly entertained.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Every character on it is fantastic. Bringing it, it really
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: did have a very funny episode. Meredith was going to
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: have her bat mitzvah, and she never got it when
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: she was 13. And so she's very small Jewish community
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: in Utah, but she's going to have it. And they
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: have this, you know, beautiful day out in the snow,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: and she's doing her thing. Haruk Tata. You know, I'm
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: not Jewish, so I don't want to sing all the stuff.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: And it's.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: So.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Entertaining because then Mary, who was once the church leader
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: who has abandoned her church and now is beloved by
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: every Housewife fan, she comes and she's like, and he
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: really is authentic. Like she's really looking through. She doesn't
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: know that it started. She didn't know that it started.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: She's trying to get in and the people in the
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: audience in the pews see her. And that was really funny.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Then after it, they have this great moment where This girl, Angie,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: who's actually got the head, who's in the middle, she's
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: having a problem with this new girl who's actually not featured.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: I guess she's just a friend.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: To her great dismay, because I feel like she was
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: the lead in the high school play.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: She is.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: She's a singer. Her name's Brittany.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: She's been living on the fumes for all these years.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: And she's been dating Donny and Marie's nephew.
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Jared Osmond, the great performer of our time.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Jared Osmond is the John Jansen, Harry Dubin of Salt
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Lake City. And she's really trying to draw attention to herself.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: But you know what? That's what you need. Like if
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: you're going to be on the show and you're going
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: to put a cold mic pack on you. Bring some
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: attention to yourself. Meanwhile, there's this other girl that they
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: cut out. We barely see her at all, and she's
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: just always like, are you okay? And she's pretty, and
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: we'll never see her again.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: My friend who was up for it said that I
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: think she was too boring. Like she looked like the
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: great package, but then didn't deliver once they start filming.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: So that happens.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: So then anyway, so she has a hair company, and
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: she goes, your hair looks like it has a high
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: body count.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, high body count.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: And I thought, and everyone's like, that is just, there
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: were a lot of like classic iconic moments. Of course,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: we've talked a lot about the new girl Bronwyn and
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: her Todd father, husband, whatever he is.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: There's a couple moving parts to this episode. Number one,
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: the fact that Mary's late is hilarious because I feel
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: like all the previous seasons are focused so much on
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: being Mormon or Mary's church. And then they all are.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: isolated in this you know or they're like brought to
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: this room to go through a Jewish ceremony right so
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: it is the great thing about that franchise really is
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: it goes places where other franchises won't go with religion
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: yeah also there's a lot of time spent seeing everyone
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: meet Meredith's Meredith's relatives some of it I was like
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: okay like let's speed this up the mother Her mother
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: did not seem to be interested in anybody else.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: But the mother had her voice.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: She does have her voice. Yeah. But they're all like,
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: it's so great to meet you. And she's like, it
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: is great to meet me. I mean, she just did not.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: You know, sometimes mothers are like, great to meet you, too.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: I'm so glad. She's just like, yes, welcome.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: And then they had this other good looking son that
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: doesn't want to be part of the show, which I
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, my God. Remember how the Osmonds.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: My friend thought it was her younger brother. I was like, no,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: that was the son.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you remember how the Osbournes had the
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: one sister that didn't want to be part of it?
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the Amy Osbourne.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my God, yeah, he's Amy Osbourne.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: And I love it too because there's so many scenes
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: that are like straight out of Schitt's Creek when it's
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: like her, the gay Brooks designer and Chloe who's like
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: this pretty blonde.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: They're the Beetlejuice couple. They don't fit in there at all.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: It is so entertaining. And then of course you have
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: the Lisa Barlow who's like really... who's actually, out of
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: all the housewives that have tried to sing and have albums,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Melissa Gorga, Kim Zolciak, who started it, Luann, who's still
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: doing it, Lisa Barlow actually kind of has a soothing voice.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: She does. She could be a lounge singer.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: And I just saw her doing a karaoke, and she
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: was like, Last Christmas, I gave you my heart, but
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: the very next day, you gave it away. Pretty good.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: She's pretty good. But she's got that Demi Moore kind
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: of raspy thing going on.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: What do you think about Bronwyn and her husband?
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I, you know, I think, look, she's loving this role.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Who wouldn't? Everyone loves it their first year. Even though
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: she's fighting with people, people really are enjoying her. So
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: she's getting this fame. And, you know, I... One or
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: two things can happen. Either he's going to let her
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: do it and they go on happily Yeah. Or some
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: shit's going to go down next season, which will then
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: third season will either be they break up. Right. Or
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: he's just the Harry Hamlin and we never see him again.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Like Harry Hamlin and Tom Girardi barely were seen after
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: like one or two seasons.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: That's what's going to happen. But it's not going to be,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: she's no way going to quit for him.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: And you know what? As much as he acts crotchety,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: even a crotchety old fart might like the attention, might
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: enjoy people coming up to them at a restaurant. He
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: actually might like it. Everybody's a thirst bucket when it
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: comes right down to it. Maybe. Even crotchety Todd.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: The one thing that I kept thinking is the dynamics
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: of the show between the OGs and the newer housewives
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: like Bronwyn and Brittany and even Angie, like who are
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: so game to just do anything to be on camera.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: It reminds me of like elementary school parents.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Like the kindergarten parents who are like, really eager to
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: get involved with the PTA and they sign up for
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: everything and they want to have like the party at
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: their house. But the fifth and sixth grade parents are like,
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: we don't care. Like we're leaving here in a couple
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: of years.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Like we've done that. It doesn't make a difference if
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: you work really hard in the PTA. It doesn't get
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: you any like closer to the principal. And that is like,
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: The Lisa Barlow and the Heather, like they remind me
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: of more of like the fifth, sixth grade parents. And
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: then the younger ones are more.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: The beginner parents. It's like this, just like elementary school parents.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: And Heather's doing fine. It just, it's just, yeah. She
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: had such a monumental final scene last year that probably
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: this year, people are like Heather, who like, I feel
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: like Heather and Whitney, it's just not really about them.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: I think Heather's was probably processing. I'm like, I I'm
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: working on a book.
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: I've got other businesses. I mean, If you're first your housewife,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: you're thinking, like, I have to have catchphrases. I have
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: to do this.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: And they're all just like, yeah, I mean, we've done that. Like,
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: you're going to run circles.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Heather's like, I'm skinny and I love my life.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: She's like smoking a cigarette on the couch. She's like,
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: I'm just going to take some time off for a second.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. Yeah. But it's pretty enjoyable.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: It's campy for sure.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: They are solid.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Now, how are you feeling about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills?
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: What are your initial thoughts?
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know who Dorit is. I don't know. The
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: person that showed up to film, I'm so confused. It
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: just makes me realize I have no idea who she is.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: It just seems like she's almost leaning into a persona
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: to secure the position. Or maybe she was miserable the
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: whole time and was pretending not to be. I haven't
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: quite figured out who she really is, which is weird.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Because she's been on the show for so long.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: I think, I really like it. I really feel like,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: you know, people do change. And she was about to, like,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: she claimed she was about to leave the show. And
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: now she's there. Do you think she would.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Really have left the show?
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of think people do think like that.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: I do think they think, you know, I could do
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: something else or whatever. And, you know, I think she's
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: glad she stayed. And so Carlos King has said he
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: is a friend of the show. He has his own show.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: You know him as well. He also was a producer
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: on Real Housewives of New Jersey and Atlanta and now
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: produces his own reality shows with women. But he says
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: that he heard, or whatever, allegedly, that their breakup is
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: a storyline. And the argument would be that's why they
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: haven't told the kids because he's, you know, two years ago, whatever,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: he was gone for 75 days in London. So they're
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: used to dad not being in the house.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure they don't watch the show. They're not online.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: They're not reading tabloids. So what would they know?
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: I think that's kind of absurd, though.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I think it's absurd.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: We're not going to tell the kids, but we're on
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: a reality show and kids have access to social media.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: You think it's absurd not to tell them? Yeah, they
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: might know now, though. You don't know.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Eventually it's going to come out.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: She's just saying as they were filming, they hadn't told them.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: We have to think about that. I don't know if
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: she was to walk in right now if she was like, no,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: now they know that we're taking some time apart. But
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: while they're filming, which was like a year ago, she
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: says no, they didn't know.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: I know, but you're still filming a reality show. Things
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: are going to trickle back to your kids, and I
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: would hate for my kids to find out that before me.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: And so anyway, I... I don't believe that anyone, well, okay, here,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: there's two schools of thought. If you're someone who believes
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: that you're not totally sold on what happened with the robbery,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: which is a lot of people, then this wouldn't be
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: a far-fetched thing to think that this also was something
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: that they staged. To say, we're not getting along. Let's
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: really take some time apart. But I also don't believe
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: that you're so close that you're like, okay, secretly come
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: over and fuck. I don't think you're fucking. I think
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: you are at a place where maybe you don't hate
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: each other. But I just don't believe that you're going
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: to sit down and go, I think that it happened.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: They broke up. But I think in it, they're like.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: And you know what?
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: This is good fucking juicy TV. If all of a
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: sudden I was on a reality show and something happened
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: in my marriage, I'd be like, the lemonade is, I'm
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: going to let you guys see it. And it might
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: help someone. And if we find our way back, great.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: And if we don't, I don't really care. I'm getting paid.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I'm interested.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: But what did you think about her talking about him
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: being an alcoholic? I thought the delivery of it was
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: so strange.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I think it's the same way that like Tamara kept
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: bringing up that Shannon Bedore is an alcoholic. It's like,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: and it doesn't get well received when someone's pointing, you're
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: an alcoholic. Yeah. He's like, I know.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: The way she delivered it was so weird.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Especially when you're saying it to somebody that's already admitted it.
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: Right. Yeah.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: I'm already admitting it, whether Shannon Bedore is totally sober
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: or not, or he says, I have been sober this
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: many months. We don't need you to keep saying it
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: because the person said it. Yeah. You know, it's not
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: like you're in a shelter.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: And you're like, I'm at the shelter because you don't
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: realize that I am living with a raging alcoholic. And
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: then you're like, oh my God, you know, charming. No,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: she's like, no, he was sober for all these months.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Then we separated. And I'm just reminding you that, but
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: sometimes you, you, because she's probably seeing that people are
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: liking him and enjoying him. They're enjoying him even more.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: As sober delight. I interviewed him once. I liked him
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: very much.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Sober delight PK. And so she's just like, well, don't
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: like him too much. Let me remind you, like, There's
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: a lot of things I didn't tell you the first
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: four years or whatever.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Isn't that so true of couples? Like when they break up?
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: You have like friends that break up and you're like, oh,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: I'm just so sorry that didn't work out.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, really?
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you, like this guy's been an asshole.
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: She's actually a nightmare.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Do you remember your Christmas party last year?
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: Remember what happened?
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: No, I don't.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Well, we fought in the car.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Do you know that? Did you?
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: And by the way, they hate you.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: They hated you the whole time. Oh, yeah. They're like, yeah. Yeah,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: he didn't want me to be your friend. Yeah.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: Never.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: So I don't know why you think he's so delicious.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: And I stuck up for you, and now you're sticking
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: up for them.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why you think he's so great. No,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's great. I'm just saying, like, I
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: ran into him at the grocery store, and he was, like,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: really helpful. Oh, of course he's helpful to you. You
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: know what? He also never grocery shopped for his three kids,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: who I birthed. And you're like, okay.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I think it's that. I do not.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: I don't think they'll get back together is my personal opinion.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: I don't think they will get back together, but I
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: think Kyle and Mauricio will.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Do you? I think that she's. Okay, this is what
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: it's reminding me of. It always comes back to Betty Broderick.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Betty Broderick.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: This is like.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: My favorite.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: This is I feel like the hill you will die on.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: This is the one that lives rent free in your
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: head more than any other story.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Betty Broderick, to remind you guys.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: And I know one of the kids.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: You know the oldest one, Kim, right? Was a socialite.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: High Society, San Diego, beautiful homes. Put her husband through
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: law school. No, medical school, then law school. And then
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: he got a 19-year-old assistant. And they had an affair.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: And then he says, I want to get divorced. And
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: he and the girl move into a house together. And
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: she's got the four kids. She's been the stay-at-home mom.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: And she's fabulous at it. Like, she's that woman that can, like,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: move in in a day, decorate the house, and make
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: a pot roast and all this stuff. And the two
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: made-for-TV movies showed all this, which I've seen numerous times.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: One of the things that happened was she had the
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: four kids. And she was like, oh, Dan? Dan thinks
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: he can do life without me? Good luck. And Each
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: once every couple of weeks, you just drop one kid
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: off with a suitcase and he'd come home from work.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: He's like, what are you doing? And you think, well,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: mom dropped us off. We'll see if he can make
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: a tuna fish sandwich. We'll see if he can get
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: his cocky gear together. Well, guess what? They learn how
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: to do it. And the kid learns how to do it.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: And all of a sudden he's got all four kids
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: at his house. And the 21-year-old girlfriend is quite delightful
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: and helpful, too. And now she's bitter. And now he's like, well,
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: now I'm not going to pay you any money because
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: I have all four kids. So anyway, she loses her
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: mind and she kills them both and she's still in prison. Okay.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: But I kind of think that Kyle may have had,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: not that she's a murderer, but might have had a
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: little bit of like, oh, good luck.
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: I loved that they showed that part where she's like
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: oh well like you do you even have like towels
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: and sheets i can get you some he goes i
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: got him and she was kind of like well who
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: am i like i think that she.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah but conversely she's complaining that she has to do
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: all the things with the house remember and he's like
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: yeah that was my life like Now I live in
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: a gated community and I don't have to worry about that.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: And she's like, oh, so it's like to do all
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: of those house things.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: And also, and she's like, I'm kind of jealous. You're
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: there with, and I have the four dogs, which are
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: all like giant and slobbery and everything. And he's probably like, yeah,
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I didn't ask for four dogs. And now, yeah, you're right.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Four dogs is a lot. And I, listen, I'm a
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: dog mom too. But I, when you have multiple dogs,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: it's like, that's a big thing. So you might want
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: to rethink it. And he's like, well, I'm fine coming
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: over and petting them. They're not my kid. And the
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Porsches can drive and come by and have lunch with me.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: And yeah, then I just take off. And she's kind
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: of like... And now I think whatever happened with Morgan,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: I'm going to make you love me. And I'm going
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: to talk about it for the rest of my life.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: It's not happening now. Whatever their situation is, whether they're
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: still friends or not, it's not an intense romantic relationship,
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: in my opinion. And so... Yeah, I think she's kind
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: of like, well, I don't know. I don't know that
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: I want a full breakup now, unless she finds someone else.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: And they said that both she and Dorit and Teddy
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: were all trolling Kevin Costner.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: Oh my, by the way, dynamite for him. Kevin Costner
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: is like going to live his best life now with
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: all of these women after him.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: There was an account today on Instagram that claims that
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: Dorit was outside of Mauricio's apartment. I just don't see
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: it for those two. I don't, why would she, I
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: don't see it.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, they have the friendship and
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Kyle was sending the memes or whatever to PK. And
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't believe that, I mean, Kyle and Dorit,
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: I guess they're cool now, but I don't think What
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: that was was exactly what has happened in female friendships,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: which is why we love Housewives and why women our
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: age watch it, love it, analyze it, do podcasts about it,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: is because friendships with marriages and this and that, and
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: also friendships where when there is a break, either there
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: is something very common where someone was like, I thought
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: I was more important because you are so important to me.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: I thought we were real friends. I didn't realize that
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: you had 10 of me because I only had one
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: of you.
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: And so, no, I had 10 of you, and I
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: was okay to put you in a corner when the
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: cameras aren't around.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my husband always says what he finds fascinating about
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: women watching Housewives, that there are so many nuances to it. Like,
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: if he's just sitting next to me and there's something
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: going on in a scene, usually he's watching something else
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: with headphones on. But he'll say it. wait, what is
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: that about? And then I'll explain, okay, these are the
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: moving parts. And he's like, how did you even come
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: up with that? They're so simple, but there are so
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: many layers to female friendships. As you get older, lives
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: get more complicated with children and jobs and taking care
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: of parents. And Housewives really is quite special because, I mean,
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: Malcolm Gladwell has a new book out where he talks
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: about in one chapter how roles of women on TV,
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: like even Cagney and Lacey, remember that show? They didn't
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: have families.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Two female detectives.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: So it's like, oh, they're take-charge women, but they didn't
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: have families. So over time, I think Housewives really has
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: done the best job of showing all the layers of
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: being a working mom, raising a family, you know, taking
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: care of elderly parents, the sandwich generation. All of these
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: things have not been shown on other media platforms.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: And I think, you know, The reason the fans get
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: passionate about certain things is if you are a woman
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: and you've lived through this.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: For sure.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: And you can see it. And then, you know, they
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: have a lot of gay male fans who love it.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: But they love it for the glamour and the bitchiness
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: and the iconic lines and throwing the drink and all
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: that stuff. And we get obsessed with, you know, like
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: I was rewatching. Real Housewives. So let's move on to
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Real Housewives. I'm going to skip over here and then
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: go back. I was re-watching Real Housewives of New York.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, right.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Because on Peacock.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: Wait, look at the efficient. I'm totally freaked out.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: So this was Ramona and Mario season four.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: Do you remember the guy who used to dress up
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: like a Tinkerbell? He was on Instagram. What are you
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: talking about? I'm going to go like 12 years ago.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: There are good people listening who know what I'm talking about.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: A man who dressed up like Peter Pan.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: And he looks exactly like him.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, I don't know what you're talking about. Anyway,
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Ramona on her 17th wedding anniversary decided to do a
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: big vow renewal.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: I remember it.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: And it was one of the, I think it was
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: the first vow renewals in the franchises. We have had
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: so many sets. Shannon, the door has done it. Vicki gun, gun,
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Wilson has done it. Both are now divorced. Um, Oh God,
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: I know you guys are screaming them out as you're driving,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: but there's been so many vow renewals. Um, I think
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: a vow renewal is really lovely, but it should be
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: only reserved for you, your spouse, and like just family,
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: like just your kids.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: I think anything that's a bigger display of that, it's
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: not good vibes.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Because it's like people are sitting around going, really? Like
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: the amount of times I've heard a bitch about him. Oh,
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: they're so in love. Yeah, yeah. You know, like it's not.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: It's different than a wedding because at a wedding you're like, oh.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: If a guy had a party for his 20th anniversary
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: at his job, right, and he invited all of his
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: guy friends to come to the office, like I'm celebrating 20th.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: The guys would be in the corner like, remember when
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: we went golfing and he was bitching about that supervisor?
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: It's the same thing.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: It just doesn't work because at a wedding, because I
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: watch this whole thing and she comes out and they're
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: all cheering just like it's a wedding because she did
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: it like a wedding. And they're all cheering. But yet
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: they've been married for 17 years. And then Mario comes out.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: 17 specifically.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: And Mario comes out and he's like, like, I'm going
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: to get laid tonight for the first time. Like, it
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: was something. And I'm like, with a wedding, you're like,
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: even if you're not totally think this couple should get married,
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: you're hopeful. You're hopeful that they will have a wonderful
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: life together and you're happy to be there and it's beautiful. Like,
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: a vow renewal is so, like.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: And that you'd invite your friend and spend the money.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: I think it's obnoxious.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: It should only be on reality TVs. It should never
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: be in real life. It should never happen in real life.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: I have one friend back in the day. It was
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: her 10th wedding anniversary at our church. And they are
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: still married and they're lovely. And they had a little
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: thing and invited a few people to lunch after. And
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: he surprised her at the church. And the kids watched.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: Like that, I feel like something like that is really cool.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: Um, But that may have been part of that, too,
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: would have been the time where they started to get
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: a lot of free stuff. So maybe she thought, like,
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: I'm going to get a lot of free jewelry.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: I think they had to spend it. And she was
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: smart to be like, you know, because in it she goes,
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: you know, how do you hold, like, renewal thing? I
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: cut my hair.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: She was branding hardcore in that episode.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And, like, the true faith jewelry.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: True faith, renewal, renewal, skin. I'm a renewed person in friendships.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: Remember that?
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Yes. And it was just. It's just so– and then
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: it's sad because they got divorced. He cheated on her
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: and they got divorced.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: Dorit could pull one of those with like the branding.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: Maybe like she could pull this whole like I'm a
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: divorced woman thing. Well, I mean, listen.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Do I want to see– do I want to see
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: at home– A complete renewal of that. Oh, Lisa Vanderpump
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: did a vow renewal. They're still together. But I'd love
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: to see it for Dorit and PK. I'd love to
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: see it because it's fun to watch. It's fun to watch.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: But I'm saying if you were really just going to
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: someone's house who was doing this.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: Wait, what if?
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: And your fifth year old friend is in like a
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: white dress. I would die.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: I would die. First of all.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: Okay. So when we were doing After Lately, which was
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: a show we did on Chelsea lately that was, we
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: shot it like The Office and it was supposed to,
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: and we were all playing kind of exaggerated versions of ourselves.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: I was so excited because the finale of the first
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: season was going to be, I'm having a vow renewal.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: And I was so excited because I was all obsessed
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: with housewives at the time. And I was like, oh,
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: my God. And the kids are going to be there.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: And I'm like.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Because I was just deciding to get into a dress
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: and get professional hair and makeup and have it filmed.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: And then they're like, oh, the network said no. Because
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: it's taking us too much out of the office and
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: too much into your, like, personal life.
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: But, like, Chelsea and everybody wanted... They all thought it
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: was funny because, of course, the cast would be there
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: and I'm so obnoxious. My character is so obnoxious and, like, da-da-da.
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: So.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: I was so bummed because I was already like, I'm
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: going to have three dresses and da-da-da-da. And then, you know,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: now I'm like, I would never want to do this. No.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Unless it's on a TV show. Then I'll do it.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, outside of that, no way. What if PK and
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: Dorit are in a scene where they're, you know, talking
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: about their marriage problems and then boy George just walks
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: past singing that song, Do You Really Want to Hurt Me?
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: They don't utilize him enough. Where has he been?
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, well, I just saw PK post with him.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, you did? Okay, good.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: Some new tour is coming.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, good.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: And so, yeah, get ready.
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: Get ready.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: But, oh my God, stop. Okay. What if Carlos King
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: is right?
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: It was a storyline.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: And it is a storyline.
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: And they are cool with each other. And this gives
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: her a new arc of being the new Dorit of like,
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: you shut up, Kyle. And then they do next season
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: actually fall back in love and have the full wedding
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: vow renewal with the kids in it. Boy George performing.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: Right. I think that's possible.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: Do they do a double vow renewal with Kyle and Mauricio? Well,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: maybe that's the whole season is that they're fighting. It's
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: like renewal wars.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: And like David Tutera comes and he plans one of
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: their weddings and the whole thing.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: And then who deserves the renewal more and like who
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: really is going to make it work and then everyone
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: has to act like you've made it. It's just such
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: a weird thing to have people be like, I mean,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: the only time I think is, like, if someone almost died. Yeah.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: And then the other spouse, like, really, like, was there
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: for them. And then those, you know... Mm-hmm. I just
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: think it's weird that you're standing in front of, like,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: your friends that have, like, seen you bitch and complain for, like,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: 25 years. Like, it's just... Anyway, okay, so getting back to...
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: This is very sad news. Speaking of Real Housewives of
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: Beverly Hills. Brandi Glanville... Oh. chose to post a really
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: sad photo of herself. Brandi was on Real Housewives of
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Beverly Hills for many years. You know she hasn't worked
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: in a while on any of the Bravo or any
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: other shows because she was suing Bravo. Her lawyer has
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: since dropped her, so she doesn't have any way to
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: go with the suit. She is not being sued, but
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Caroline Manzo is suing Bravo for what she said happened
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: to her at the hands, literally the hands, of Brandi
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: Glanville on Ultimate Girls Trip Morocco, which we will never see.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: And she said right around that time of these accusations,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: which she claims it was innocent fun and there was
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: no way that Caroline at the time was disturbed, is
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: what she was saying, that she started to have these
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: adverse effects to her face. And so she said it
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: One doctor has said it's some parasite that jumps around
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: her face. Another person said it's some disease caused by
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: incredible stress. Oh, wow. And it's just really, really sad.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: I feel really, really bad for her.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: And, you know, I kind of brave that she showed it.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: And I hope that her showing it will maybe get
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: an expert to help her and figure what this is.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: I remember back in the day, she would break out.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: I remember there were episodes where she'd be like, I'm
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: so stressed about this thing that I've been picking up
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: my face. And one of the other housewives would be like,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: stop it, stop it. You have to stop. That she
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: would break. So that always been a thing for her,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: that her stress would show up physically.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: It was awful.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: But it really is.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: I feel like there will be a doctor that is
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: generous enough to help.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then, you know, and then people are like, oh, it's...
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: And if you're the one that fixed the problem? It's
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: filler that, like, went away. I mean, I.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: You know, you never really know unless you're in someone's
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: doctor's office.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: What it really is. Or a plastic surgeon that can
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: figure it out and maybe dissolve the filler, give her
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: a facelift, do a thing, have her come out looking
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: like Lindsay Lohan. I don't know.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: Lindsay Lohan looks great.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so good.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: She looks so good.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: In Real Housewives of Potomac, there's one real juicy thing
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: that's happening.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: There is a new girl, very pretty. She truly, she
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: looks like a Barbie, okay? Her name's Stacy. And she's
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: just like a, she probably was in pageants.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: She was on QVC.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: I know, but I think she probably did pageants before.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: She's just like the most beautiful, like perfect thing. And
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: she's getting divorced from her husband. And has a daughter.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: And she's like, at QVC, I fell in love with
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: this guy. But he's a super Christian or whatever she
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: wants to say. And he's saving himself for marriage. And
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: he's pushing to be, I would think, at least 45,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: if not 50. Okay. Are they trying to tell us
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: that he's never had sex? Or he won't have sex
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: with her until they're married?
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: Maybe that. That would seem extreme, being 45 to 50
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: and never having sex. That seems extreme.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: I don't believe that she's a good enough actress that
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: the two of them got together and thought, here's a storyline.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: This is an original storyline. There's been 169 housewives.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: This is a storyline we've never seen where a woman
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: is dating a guy who clearly, A, is gay, or B,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: not interested. And he's playing along for airtime himself.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: Probably.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: And- Because I don't even think they have great chemistry
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: as platonic friends. Like he doesn't even really like her.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: They go to this– he kind of is a dick.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: So they go to this one party that the other
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: girl has, the professor, who gave up being a professor. Wendy.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: Because the minute she's got to be a housewife, she's like,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: fuck grading papers.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: No kidding. I get it.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: And she throws a party that that must have cost $ 50, 000, $ 60, 000.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: She throws this beautiful party for her birthday. her 40th birthday,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: which we've celebrated for the last eight episodes. And she
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: comes there and this girl, Stacy and her gay Christian husband,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: whatever comes boyfriend. And he on camera, he's like, really?
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: He totally ignored me. Like he's giving her that attitude.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: And they're sitting at the table and she's like, what
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: are you talking about? And he's like, you know what
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: you're doing? You know what you're doing? Not cool or whatever.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: Like being like a mean dick. And he's not fucking her.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, what? Yeah.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: It sounds like he likes to be on TV.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: But without this, she's just kind of like an annoying dork. Okay.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: So she's clinging on.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: But this is an interesting, juicy storyline. Because, you know,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Giselle has like faked relationships and stuff. But this one
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: is just, this is a fun, weird one to watch.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: So are they going to come back?
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know. But, you know, that's the thing. Like,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: we do, as the women that watch Housewives, we like
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: to see romantic relationships, too. Whether they're horrible marriages, good marriages,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: or a new budding thing. The fact that all of
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: Beverly Hills is single now.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: Right? Not one is married.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Not one is currently with their husband.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: Every single one is single. The new girl, Boze, is
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: a widow.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: And she's got a cute daughter. They showed her in
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: a call. But right now they're either separated, single. Yeah,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: they're all single. But there's enough going on that I
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: like watching them. But it is the things that get
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: us talking are dissecting.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: Like a relationship. By the way, I think people would
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: want to see Dorit dating, don't you think?
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want her to Lauren Sanchez it and get
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: someone real rich.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm just like thinking about her on a date
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: because she doesn't listen that well.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: You know? Like, some of these dudes are going to
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: be like, okay. Like, it's got to be about me
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: I do think she might have trouble.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: She's going to have trouble.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: Because she's also not, like, she's good looking. But she
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: comes off, she doesn't come off very sexual. No. You
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: Do you have friends, like, I have friends that I...
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: I think they have velvet vaginas because every man they
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: ever date.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: I call it a Venus flytrap vagina. Yeah.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: Like every guy they've ever been with still writes them
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: and calls them. They can't get them out of their mind.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know if she'd be in that category.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: Some people I think are born with it.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: My sister has that.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: And it comes... It's just a natural thing.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: And it's not based on how beautiful they are or whatever.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: They've just got that thing. They've got it.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they got it.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: And then I think there's other girls that really are
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: great in the sack and really do, you know, act like,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: like the only thing that's feeding their soul is that
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: man's penis and they can't get enough of it. And they,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: they know, and then sometimes women know to do that.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: Like they, they're like, get what you know, you know
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: how you, you know, my grandmother taught me, you know, you,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: you get more with sugar than whatever. And, um, and like,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: you know, that whole thing. And I think some women are,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: either were taught it by their mom or they learned
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: it on their own. And it just comes very natural.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: All my mom taught me was never pay for a
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: man's education.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Don't pay for it.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: Don't pay for it. Like she never gave me advice about.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: Why would you be paying for anyone's education? That's so weird.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: Because she had a, she had a boyfriend. She was
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: like paying his tuition and she was like still pissed
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: about it. But she never gave me any advice about
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: like netting a guy or anything. And then when we,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: I would introduce her to men. She'd just be like,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: I guess he's fine.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: She's very cold. Yeah, yeah I had I've had friends
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: that like their moms I think kind of taught them
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: yeah like like a big Kathy Hilton you know like
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: this is how you you know when I interviewed Kyle
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: it was a really good interview it was years ago
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: and she said my mom taught me to make sure
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: that your home was the nicest place your husband had
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: been all day And I was like, well, that's a
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: lot since your husband's a realtor and in mansions.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: No kidding.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: The point was, you light the candles, you have something cooking,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: it's relaxing, and you're like a 1950s. Have you ever
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: looked at those old-fashioned 1950s? How to make sure you
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: put on your hair and makeup and you have a
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: martini waiting for him and offer to take off his
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: slippers or shoes and bring all these things. And that's
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: the way you keep your man happy.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: Very indicative of the time.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like when she said that, I
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, I never thought of that.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: Which is probably why she's separated, because she's like, I'm
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: sick of lighting the candles and making stew on the stove. Like,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: what are you doing for me?
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: You know, that gets kind of old after a while.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: Right. And then I also think the being sober, too.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: I think the whole.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: I think when, you know, this whole thing of when
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: people get, like, close to middle age or 50... And
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: they give up this this thing that was such a
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: big part of their life or what they did with
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: their spouse, which is having cocktails, drinking, partying, whatever. And
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: one stops and they're like, no, I don't care that
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: you have a drink. But then they are they have
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: their own like awakening journey.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: Well, she's probably thinking I'm accommodated you and your needs
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: for too long. And now it's a time that I
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: do something for myself. Also, her kids are growing up,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: and there are a lot of people, I think. My
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: sister's a little bit older than me, and I feel
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: like her friends are all kind of splitting now. It's
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: just because my sister's kids are in college now.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's a time to do it. And,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: you know, listen, I have friends that are dating that
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: are our age, and they are having a wonderful time.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, there's no one hornier than a woman ovulating or
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: newly divorced.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: No one hornier.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: I feel like friends come to me who are getting
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: a divorce.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: I feel like people are seeing good guys out there.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: You're going to have so much fun. You're going to
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: kill the game.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: When I look at someone's Raya or whatever they're on
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: that are my age, I'm like, this is good.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: I want to hear all the stories.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: And then there's that new show on Netflix that Michelle
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: Obama is producing. Later Daters. Yeah, my friend was watching
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: it and she's like, you've got to watch it. It's good.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: Have you watched it?
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: I've started to watch it. It's good.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, I got to see it, yeah.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, my sister, when she got divorced, I felt
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: like her life was set on fire.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: I get why someone wants to try it, but then
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: be able to bounce back.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: Like when we get to a place of like AI
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: where I can just like enter another dimension and then
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: I could just go and date for just like maybe
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: a few months. Yeah. But then I can just still
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: just come back to like my old life. Like I'm
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: not giving it up completely. And I think when people
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: think that they can do that, like a Kyle, but
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: you can't because someone is going to catch feelings for
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: somebody else and it's going to be very, you're not
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: going to come back better than, Because your dick was
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: in somebody else for a bunch of times.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's tricky. I was thinking about when I dated
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: when I moved to L.A. and I met my husband
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: on Match.com. But one of the dates that I went on,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: I had the greatest time talking to him. But I
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: realized halfway through the date that he grew up in
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: a cult because, you know me, I've watched every cult documentary.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: So he's like, I have a lot of half siblings.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: I've lived all over the world. And at one point
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: I went, did you grow up in Children of God,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: which was the Joaquin Phoenix family? And he goes, oh,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: my God, you did, too. I said, no, I've watched
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: a lot of 48 hours. But then I stayed an
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: extra hour to ask him all about being in the cold.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: And then, of course, I didn't want to go out again.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: But I'm like, this could be hard. If you're, like,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: someone who's a good listener, dating could be tricky. Because
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: you could find yourself talking to someone way too long
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: who you have no interest in, like, actually moving forward with.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: So you have to be very, very careful about your time. Like,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: you've got to give it a short window. You've got
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: to meet somewhere. Like, I would always meet at a
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: bar where, like, my friends were next door. So I had, like,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: an out. You know, like an easy out.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: I did it before all that stuff. And I just
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: would say yes so that I could get a meal.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: And I got, I got full meal. I got an appetizer,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: a salad. Right. I would like be starving. Like I'd purposely.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: Would you get like a creme brulee the whole game?
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: I wasn't, I never dessert, but I was very into
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: like an app salad. And then I always do, I
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: would never do like a pasta. I would always do
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: like a salmon and, or like, you know, steak or something.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: And then, um, I wouldn't do like a doggy bag,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: but I would definitely like, I could like eat a lot,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: you know? And then I just remember like, if, if
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: a guy was weird about the salad part, like, Oh,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: you're getting another thing. I was like, well, this is
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: going to be a problem. But I am going to
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: still order it.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: So, like, he's talking about his work life. And you're like,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: hang on. The waitress comes over. And you're like, what
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: are those specials again? Can you run through those a
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: couple more times?
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was really about eating. Yeah.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: Well, because we didn't have a lot of money back then.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: I remember going to, like, whatever the hot, hot spot was.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: Like, we'd be in, like, Venice Beach. It was a
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: hot spot. And it would be, like, there'd be people
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: that could, there's music playing and stuff. And I'd look
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: and I'd see people eating. Like, they got dinner. They
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: got a table.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: And I was just like, one day. One day I'll
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: be able to come to a place like this and
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: actually eat.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: Because I am just here with only $ 20 in my pocket.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: I'd buy my first drink myself.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: And then somebody else would buy the rest of the drinks.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: I'd either give out my number to like date somebody
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: or I'd collect numbers to invite to my stand-up show.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 5: Smart.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: Because I need to bring like seven people.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: And just every... it was always just like, it was
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: always just, did I accomplish anything tonight? Right. And it's
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: just nice to be at a place where I can
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: just eat and drink and I don't have to meet
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: anybody and I don't have to invite anybody. And I
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: already say that to Peter.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: I got to tell you, I just want to, you know,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: I really appreciate the fact that I don't have to
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: ask for numbers to get someone to take me out
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: for multi, you know, yeah. Time meals.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the thing. Like I, when I'm kind
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: of like, Oh, that's, you know, that's exciting. I'm also like,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: That's why whenever I watch Love is Blind and stuff,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I should be more appreciative because all these
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: people are doing are just like, I'll be watching Love
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: is Blind with Peter sitting there and we're laughing about it.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, all these people want is to find
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: someone to sit down and watch Love is Blind with.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: That's all they want.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: And I have that. I feel like married people need
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: to appreciate their.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: Lives way more. And we all exaggerate when we're dating.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: I said I was spontaneous and I like to travel
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: and cook.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: Whatever. Whatever.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: Uber eats and i'm at home give me a break
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: like yeah you're the exaggerated version of.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: Yourself on our first date peter said um anyway so
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: i travel a lot for work because he did at
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: the time he goes um he goes do you like
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: do you like to fly first class what he said
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: that yeah he goes do you like like a question
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: like do you like to fly first.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: Class tinder swindler.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: And i go well i never have and he goes
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: oh oh anyway you know And I always joke how
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: like that was like such like a hook. Yes. And
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: then I, our first trip like on a plane was
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: our honeymoon and it was first class. Okay.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: Where did you guys go for your honeymoon?
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: We went to the Cayman Islands and I remember like
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: the guy was dropping us off and the guy goes
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: first in the first class and I go, no. And
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: he goes, yes. And I was like, And that was
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: pre 9-11. So it was like even better. Like it
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: was like real everything. And like it was just anyway.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: And then my last thing is now with this girl, Hannah,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: who's now the missing girl, who's unfortunately after she vanished
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: for two weeks, her husband, I'm sorry, her father ended
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: his life because he thought she was missing. She has
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: been found. She's in Mexico. This was a really weird thing.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: She hasn't been found.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: Well, she'd been found going to Mexico.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: They have video footage of her crossing the border on
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: November 12th or 13th.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: Well, here's another weird story from New York Post that
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: came out a couple days ago. The mystery man who
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: spent nine hours with her before she vanished told investigators
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: that she was a free spirit, but otherwise seemed completely normal,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: according to the report, the day before she walked into Mexico.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: he said that she and he bumped into each other
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: outside of L.A., and then they walked through downtown L.A.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: together and, like, enjoyed this lovely time together. I'm like,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: this is the weirdest story. This sounds like a romantic comedy. Also,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: downtown L.A. is not near LAX. No, it's not. So
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: that means you met at LAX, and then you were like, hey,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: want to hang out and, like, look at art in
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: downtown L.A.? Like, what?
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: This story is so strange.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: I think she got off the plane. She met somebody.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: And I think the scary thing is if you are
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: someone who's wearing a backpack with headphones on, you're a
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: moving target. If you're somewhat naive and if you meet
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: the wrong person, next thing you know, like you're talking
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: to them and then maybe you're not in public and
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: they get access to your phone and They're texting on
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: your behalf or convincing you to do things.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: If we're ever going to find out what happened to her.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: But I think seeing her cross the border in Mexico
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: doesn't strike me as like she's trying to escape everyone.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: I feel like if you didn't take your connecting flight,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: you may have sat at the bar next to someone
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: and they convince you like, Let's go into L.A. And
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: why would somebody who doesn't know anything about L.A. would
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: go to downtown L.A.? Like, it just doesn't add up
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: to me.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, there's cameras everywhere, so she really must
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  Speaker 2: have gone on, like, this weird date with this guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she went to the Grove.
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  Speaker 4: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's very strange.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: Tell us, Kate, what you have going on over there
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: at Reality Life with Kate Casey.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: Well, okay, so... Every Monday, I tell people what to watch.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: And then Tuesday through Friday, I'm interviewing a lot of
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: directors of documentaries, docu-series, talent on reality shows, anybody on
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: unscripted TV. I'm truly obsessed with people and their stories.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: So it could be, like, tomorrow's episode is about NFL
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: football and hard knocks. I've got a behind-the-scenes with the
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: editors of the Dallas Cowboys show about how that show
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: was all made.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: The cheerleading one?
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: The cheerleading one, which was really cool.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: But then.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: like I'll have somebody from Southern charm, but, and then
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: every Saturday I have a Saturday series where I interview
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: people who I think have cool stories. And I started
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: doing that because I was telling more of my personal story.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: I felt like after 600 episodes, like maybe I should
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: tell people a little about me. And I kind of
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: like led people through my story. And then I started
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: just interviewing people that I come across who have like
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: just stories that should be on documentaries, but may not
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: ever be featured. So, um, Yeah, I'm always interviewing people.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: So what is something? What's a juicy doc or show
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: that we should be watching?
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, give me a topic and I'll tell you.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: Because I literally cover sports, cults, romance, anything. I always
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: say one of my favorite true crime docs is Murder
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: on Middle Beach, which was on HBO in 2010.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: I loved that one.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: Or 2020.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: Is there a new one?
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: No, but I really liked that one because this young
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: man's mom was murdered and found on The Front Lawn
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: and the whole doc series.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: And she was like involved in like a shady MLM. Right.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: And her relationship with her ex-husband.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a good one.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: That's always a good one. There's a really good cult
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: one called Holy Hell. You know this one. Where the
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: cult leader was a man named Michelle who convinced all
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: of these people in the 80s and early 90s to
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: move to this compound or this spot in Texas and
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: like give up all their stuff and like they would
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: all live together on this commune. But the thing was,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: he would make them all perform dance routines for like hours.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: So like you and I, like never having a dance background,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: would be put in leotards and like practice for hours
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: for a show where he was the lead performer to
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: an audience of no one. I mean, everything is insane.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: How long has that gone for? Oh, years.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: And there was one guy named Will and he had
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: a camera and he filmed all for years and years
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: and years. So you see archival footage.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: Where could I watch the Holy Hell?
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: Amazon Prime.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Amazing. No, it is.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: And what I mean for Colt, you know, I've seen
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: them all. I'm like that one. I just I can
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: never get over.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: OK, that I got to watch.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: The other one I think you did not watch, but
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: I thought was really good was a reality show on
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: Peacock called Love Undercover. And that was a bunch of
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: major soccer stars in Europe. And they told these American
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: women that it was going to kind of be like
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: The Bachelor. Like, you search for love throughout the country.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: You can't find it. We're going to help you out.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: We brought in these guys from the UK. So they
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: meet them and they're all kind of snarky about them. Like,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: he's not that hot. And he's just a trainer. Like,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: I've got a lifestyle that I need. And meanwhile, they'll
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: have like 30,000 followers. Like, nothing like totally crazy. What
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: they don't know is they're all international soccer stars. So
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: they're pretending like, One pretends he's in construction, but he's
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: got 4 million followers on Instagram. And he's rich. He's rich.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: So you see throughout the process where they have no idea.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: And so the guys are all in on the secret
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: together of like they all know they're soccer players, but
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: the American women have no idea. So in the end,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: it's sort of like the guys get along so well
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: and they're so funny. It's sort of like the Golden Bachelor,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: how all the men get along really well when they're
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: living in like pottery barn beds back at the mansion.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: It's the same thing with this one show, but the
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: hilarity of them having no idea that these guys are
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: really successful. And then when they find out. Because they're like, OK,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: I've got something to tell you. Like maybe they're breaking
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: up with them.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: OK, those are good.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: And some of the women are like, I'm sorry, what?
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: And then one woman goes out with this one guy
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: who's actually a Mexican Olympic soccer star. And the funny
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: thing is they go out in L.A. to a park.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: So people are going, Marco, Marco. And he's like, oh,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: my God, like. And somebody kicks him a ball, but
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: he freaks out because the ball's coming to him. And
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: he's like, I can't, like, kick it up and make
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: it look like. So he, like, reaches down and picks
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: up the ball with his hands, like, just to throw
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: her off. But, yeah, these women know nothing about soccer.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: So it's kind of amazing.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: That is good. Okay. Now we have some good things
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: to watch.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: Everybody. And then, of course, follow me, Heather McDonald. Follow
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: Kate at.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: Instagram at KateCaseyCA. TikTok, it's KateCasey. Twitter threads at KateCasey.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: Reality Life with KateCasey podcast.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: And then go to HeatherRiddle.net and join my Patreon and
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: all the good stuff and get tickets to my February
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: shows on the East Coast. And thank you so much. Thanks, Kate.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: Thank you. The car is beautiful. Where did you end
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: up going for it? This exclusive place that Dad has
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: connections with. They have more cars for more dealerships than
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: like anywhere else. You have to put me in touch.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: What's it called? It's Dune ADL.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 5: Where?
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: Dunaidial. There's an accent on the E. Do you mean... Yes,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: I got it on Dundale Cars.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 5: Lift?
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: Please. Are you going past Kimmage?
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: Oh, Kimmage.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: Dundale Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.