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INTERVIEW: Vlad on Controversies, Feds Fumbling Diddy Case, Apologizing To Marlon Wayans, Nicki Minaj +More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Don't know. Every day up waiting, click your ass up
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  Speaker 1: the breakfast club.
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  Speaker 2: You don't finish for y'all dumb morning. Everybody's DJ Envy
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  Speaker 2: just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club.
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  Speaker 2: Lown La Rosa is here as well. We got a
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  Speaker 2: special guest in the building, a guy. He's locking up
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  Speaker 2: all you rappers.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just god, ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 2: Flat TV DJ's lady.
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  Speaker 1: Glad to be back, Glad to be back up and
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  Speaker 1: doing this for like a decade.
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  Speaker 3: Now longer than that, longer than that, we go back.
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  Speaker 4: Good to see you, man, Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: It is funny, though, because the allegations of Ladd being
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  Speaker 5: a fed seem to increase every single time somebody gets
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  Speaker 5: locked up from the hip hop community.
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  Speaker 1: Just is what it is.
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  Speaker 6: Man, Why why don't you even like address it at
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  Speaker 6: this point? Like when people get like them, you come
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  Speaker 6: out with still like have the conversation or entertain the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, why not? Why not? Because it's not true.
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  Speaker 1: It's not true. When you talk to the actual rappers
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  Speaker 1: who have gotten arrested, they'll say in interviews, I've had
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  Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. Uh, this interview had nothing
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  Speaker 1: to do with my case. You can go through the
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  Speaker 1: transcripts every so often it's like a fake story. Like
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  Speaker 1: I remember at one point, like there's this fake story
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  Speaker 1: that circulating a bunch of celebrities like Questlove or retweeting.
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  Speaker 1: It was like judge thanks dj vladd for helping the convict.
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  Speaker 1: The judge had nothing to do with the real judge
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  Speaker 1: and so forth, And it was from a like a
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  Speaker 1: website no one's ever heard of, wasn't a real website,
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  Speaker 1: but people retweeting and so forth. It's like, you just
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  Speaker 1: gotta gotta deal with it. It is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, like when I came into the game,
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  Speaker 1: like I wanted to ask the tough questions. I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to be the sixteen minutes of hip hop. I always
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  Speaker 1: felt like at that time that hip hop media was
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  Speaker 1: really softball and they wouldn't ask the real tough questions.
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  Speaker 1: I came in like, yo, I'm going to change you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to change this and I'm going to be different.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what I stuck on this whole time.
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  Speaker 5: I also don't understand if somebody sits down with you,
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  Speaker 5: That's what I was gonna say, And agrees to sit
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  Speaker 5: down with Blad TV in front of a camera and
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  Speaker 5: answer questions why is it your fault?
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  Speaker 2: They can say no comment, they can say I'm not
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  Speaker 2: answering that, they can say it's a case going, they can.
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  Speaker 3: Say so many different things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm I'm also very very careful with people,
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  Speaker 1: like I've turned down interviews when they're open cases.
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  Speaker 7: Really, yeah, I'm surprised that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, for example, like Draco the Ruler, when he
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  Speaker 1: was facing his murder case, his manager was like, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: he wants to do an interview. He wants to tell
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  Speaker 1: a side, And I'm like, you got an open murder
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  Speaker 1: case right now, and you know, once you beat it,
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  Speaker 1: like you can come and we'll talk about it, which
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  Speaker 1: is exactly what we did. Once he beat it, we
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  Speaker 1: did a whole interview. Same thing with tax Told when
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  Speaker 1: he was going through his case. He wanted to do
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  Speaker 1: an interview and I'm like, Yo, you're my friend and
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  Speaker 1: I don't want this interview to be used against you
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  Speaker 1: in this case, so I just have to turn you down.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, ultimately he ended up losing anyways, but I
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to contribute to that. And I'm like, even
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  Speaker 1: if you hate me after this, like I just don't
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  Speaker 1: want to do this.
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  Speaker 4: Very very trankful.
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  Speaker 8: But also you also worked in music as well too, right,
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  Speaker 8: like before all it is I was a DJ DJ.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, turntables in years now, but.
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  Speaker 1: The mixtape that's true, Like I won Mixtape of the Year,
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  Speaker 1: I won mashup of the Year, like I have one,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Justo's mixtape awards when it was sure part
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  Speaker 1: of as well. You know, you won your awards, but
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  Speaker 1: I'll part of that. I felt like I was like
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  Speaker 1: one of the top guys during that era. But then
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  Speaker 1: when flat TV came around, I had to shift and
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  Speaker 1: kind of focus on a long term career because being
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  Speaker 1: a mixtape DJ and being in DJ in general is
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  Speaker 1: just a tough job, as you know. As you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I felt like as I was getting older, I
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  Speaker 1: got to like think ahead ten twenty years, this is
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  Speaker 1: what I'm going to do in my life.
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  Speaker 2: I want to ask, what you know, with the whole
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  Speaker 2: Big U Rolling sixties, they threw your name in it
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  Speaker 2: a thousand a little bit.
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  Speaker 6: They blamed you, they said, because of their interviews on
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  Speaker 6: your channel. Is the reason why the whole indictment of
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  Speaker 6: all the things happened.
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  Speaker 1: I've never heard that. I did one interview with Big U,
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  Speaker 1: like three four years ago, which I don't think has
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  Speaker 1: anything to do with that case. Me and Big you,
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  Speaker 1: you know, maintain a relationship and a friendship. We talked
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  Speaker 1: a couple times a year. I was really shocked and
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  Speaker 1: hurt when I heard of that happened. I've never heard
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  Speaker 1: of my name connected to anything.
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  Speaker 4: Who said where that came from?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, there's headlines all over. Actually you commented back on
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  Speaker 6: some of them. You defended it. You did it sit
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  Speaker 6: down with TMZ DJ last speaks on Big U or rest.
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  Speaker 6: Interviews don't indict, but crimes do. So I mean, I think.
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  Speaker 1: They asked me about it in general, but not because
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  Speaker 1: I was connected to it anyway. Look through the whole paperwork.
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  Speaker 1: My name is on the paperwork at all. No, at all.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think it's like because even when you're because
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  Speaker 6: I know because working at TMZ, when TMZ used to
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  Speaker 6: come up in documents, it just comes up because they
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  Speaker 6: go find whatever they can. I don't think people think
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  Speaker 6: you're act well, no, that's not true. I was gonna say.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think people think you're actually working with the
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  Speaker 6: fans like you're like an informant.
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  Speaker 7: But people some people do believe that, But.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's more of like people feel like your
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  Speaker 6: interviews get people to talk about things that are then
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  Speaker 6: either directly used in paperwork or even if not directly,
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  Speaker 6: they stem to things that who's.
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  Speaker 5: Fault is that that's not I don't okay, that's not
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  Speaker 5: his fault.
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  Speaker 4: The questions.
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  Speaker 5: If I as an interviewer, if I ask you a
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  Speaker 5: question about something, you can say, no comment.
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  Speaker 3: You don't have to answer it.
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  Speaker 4: But if you answer it and then it's used later,
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  Speaker 4: that ain't my fault.
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  Speaker 1: People don't really realize. Also, like the majority of the
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  Speaker 1: time of the interview people, especially when they do like
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  Speaker 1: kind of the true crime type stuff, these people have
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  Speaker 1: already done the time for that crime, you know, So
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  Speaker 1: I've speaking you know, I've spoken to people that have
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  Speaker 1: committed murders, done serious crimes, like you know, Terrence Kanster,
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  Speaker 1: Williams burn Man's brother did forty murders that he admitted to.
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  Speaker 1: But these are all things that they've already cooperated with,
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  Speaker 1: they've already done their time with, and they have the
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  Speaker 1: right to speak on that. They've given up big chunks
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  Speaker 1: of their lives for the ability to speak on that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I've never talked to people about open cases
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  Speaker 1: on or off camera. You could talk to anybody like
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  Speaker 1: off camera, like, I don't know what you're doing in
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  Speaker 1: your private life. I don't know if you want to
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  Speaker 1: leave lad TV and go rob a bank and they say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: lad TV, you got him arrested. I didn't go rob
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  Speaker 1: that bank. So so a lot of people. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: hip hop is very street oriented. You know, people that
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  Speaker 1: are doing you know, they're rapping and they're producing whatever else,
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  Speaker 1: they're also doing stuff on the side. At the Castanova
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  Speaker 1: two time situation, I did one interview with him when
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  Speaker 1: he first started out, and then he got caught up
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  Speaker 1: for some other stuff way later on. I hadn't interviewed
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  Speaker 1: him in years and years, but somehow people said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: the lad TV interview got him locked up. But no,
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  Speaker 1: there's DMS, the messages, there was a whole case. There
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  Speaker 1: are snitches, there were so forth. We had nothing to
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  Speaker 1: do with it. He himself will say that I had
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  Speaker 1: nothing to do with it, but people would like to
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  Speaker 1: connect it like, oh, he asked this question, so obviously
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  Speaker 1: that's the reason. But it just comes to the territory.
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  Speaker 2: How many times have the Feds came to you for audio?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they felt that there was an interview that you
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  Speaker 2: only played a little bit part, or they were looking
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  Speaker 2: for extras. How many time have they reached out to you?
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  Speaker 1: One time was that no, well, no, sorry, you're right.
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  Speaker 1: Two times two times. One time was with Jimmy Henchman. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we did an interview with him. He mentioned a few
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  Speaker 1: things about his case and he was in the process
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  Speaker 1: of getting an appeal, well, getting like a retrial, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: So the next day he called me and said, hey, listen,
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  Speaker 1: my lawyer listen to this, and he said that this
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  Speaker 1: might hurt my case. Can you take it down? I said,
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  Speaker 1: no problem. Six months later, the Justice Department called me
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  Speaker 1: up and they're like, we want this footage because they
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  Speaker 1: wanted the original. First, they had a copy of it
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  Speaker 1: because you know, people had reposted or whatever else, but
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  Speaker 1: they wanted the original footage. And I said, I'm not geting
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  Speaker 1: to you the like, well, we'll put you on the stand.
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  Speaker 1: I said, well, you have to speak to my lawyer
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  Speaker 1: at that point. So I spent like ten thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: in lawyer fees and we actually blocked them from which
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  Speaker 1: obtaining the footage, and he went. You know, he had
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  Speaker 1: a retrial and he lost anyways, but I didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to contribute to that, Like, if you're going to come
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  Speaker 1: an interview on my show, I'm not going to then
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  Speaker 1: cooperate with the police to get you locked up. I
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  Speaker 1: would do my best to protect you, even if I
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  Speaker 1: have to spend thousands of dollars. The other case was
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  Speaker 1: the KPD case. Las Vegas. PD reached out to me
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  Speaker 1: like a dozen times and kept leaving messages for the
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  Speaker 1: raw footage, and I always just ignored him.
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  Speaker 3: So I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 2: I thought, usually they will fight you too for nail
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  Speaker 2: to get that footage, and they was subpoena you and
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  Speaker 2: all that.
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  Speaker 1: But they tried for the For the Jimmy Henschman case,
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  Speaker 1: they actually took it to whoever. I think Jeff Sessions
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  Speaker 1: was in charge in that time and he won't sign
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  Speaker 1: off on it. But it was a very interesting case.
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  Speaker 1: I think it would have set legal precedent because we
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  Speaker 1: put it up and then we took it down and
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  Speaker 1: they're like, well we still want it. I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 1: freedom of the press, I could protect my my footage,
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  Speaker 1: but you already put it up. I'm it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: I took it down. So if they were able to
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  Speaker 1: actually successfully subpoena it, that wast a you know, kind
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  Speaker 1: of a precedent for future people that took stuff down.
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  Speaker 1: You can go back into history and so forth. But ultimately,
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  Speaker 1: I will do my best to protect you. I will
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  Speaker 1: do my very very best.
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  Speaker 9: Man.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's because if they want the if the
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  Speaker 5: Feds want the evidence and you're saying that, then they
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  Speaker 5: might can say you're wor it's not. But it's something
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  Speaker 5: about blocking people from evidence.
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  Speaker 1: It's a conspirator. I'm not saying I don't have it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm not. But but they have to go
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  Speaker 1: through a legal process. I got a criminal lawyer that
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  Speaker 1: went back and forth with the Feds and so forth,
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  Speaker 1: and ultimately they weren't successful. They threatened to put me
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  Speaker 1: on the stand. I said, go ahead and put me
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  Speaker 1: on the stand if that's what you got to do. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a criminal. If that's the worst thing you
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  Speaker 1: know you could do to me, I'll take the stand
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  Speaker 1: and I'll be a hostile witness. You know, that's what
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  Speaker 1: ultimately happened.
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  Speaker 5: You know, if you was to put those interviews up
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  Speaker 5: and say they were true crime and ship.
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  Speaker 4: Would blow up.
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  Speaker 5: The fact that they're kind of like labeled hip hop
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  Speaker 5: is what keeps them seriously because true crime is like
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  Speaker 5: the biggest genre.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, podcasting, if you were to put those interviews up
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  Speaker 4: as true crime, need to be out of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we're talking to a bunch of networks
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  Speaker 1: right now. We've had like network meetings for the last
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  Speaker 1: few weeks about having a blad TV true crime series.
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  Speaker 1: You know, no one's actually signed the contracts yet, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, hopefully something like that will happen. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I've been doing true crime really for seventeen years of
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  Speaker 1: the time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, not labeling it.
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  Speaker 5: If you was labeling I mean, don't get me wrong,
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  Speaker 5: Black TV does great, But if he was labeling a
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  Speaker 5: true crime and you still can't, I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean I still do. Yeah, I mean in my own way. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like the KYPD interview. But we've also done
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  Speaker 1: a lot of really big interviews Michael Fraanzis I'm seeing
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  Speaker 1: the bulls or regular guests on my show, and we
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  Speaker 1: went to his whole story, a lot of Mexican mafia,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in Western familiar interviews and so forth. MS thirteen,
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  Speaker 1: I mean all around, and like a lot of these guys,
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  Speaker 1: they now come to me to do their first interviews.
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  Speaker 1: And that's kind of the cool part, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: people like trust me to tell their story as they
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  Speaker 1: feel that I will accurately tell it and tell the
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  Speaker 1: whole story as opposed to just focus on a couple
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  Speaker 1: like things.
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  Speaker 2: You get nervous with that though, because you're talking about
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  Speaker 2: some real people, not rappers. You're talking about some real
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  Speaker 2: people that are have you swimming with the fishes.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look, I have armed security usually, you know,
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  Speaker 1: most times during these interviews, and I mean these people
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  Speaker 1: are coming to me to tell their story. They know
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  Speaker 1: that I don't mean them any harm. They know that
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  Speaker 1: I'm actually benefiting them. And a lot of people like
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  Speaker 1: you know, like for example, like Terrence Gangster Williams, like
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  Speaker 1: he came out of prison and he wanted to do
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  Speaker 1: his first interview with me. Now he has a full
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  Speaker 1: blown YouTube career. You know, he makes six digits where
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  Speaker 1: he actually supports himself without having to work a job
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: because he's still on probation, so he has to keep
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  Speaker 1: as certain type of job. You know. I remember one
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  Speaker 1: of the really success stories was that Gangster had an
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  Speaker 1: arch enemy named Little Diesel that someone asked me to
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  Speaker 1: bring up the name during this one interview and he's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, me and him were like at war, people
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  Speaker 1: are getting killed, stabbed and so forth, and last time
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  Speaker 1: we saw each other, we pulled out knives. A Little
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  Speaker 1: Diesel reached out to me and said, hey, I want
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  Speaker 1: to do an interview. I said, do you want to
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  Speaker 1: do one with Terrence? He goes yeah. So I flew
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  Speaker 1: them both into New York and YPD in the building.
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  Speaker 1: I explained to them, like listen, if y'all end up
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  Speaker 1: stabbing each other, you're gonna get arrested. I can't do anything.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone got, you know, y'all got to raise her in
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  Speaker 1: your mouth or something. So everyone got frists whatever else.
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  Speaker 1: They did an interview, and then after the interview they
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  Speaker 1: became friends, and Diesel actually moved in with Gangster and
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  Speaker 1: he lives with Gangster and Gangster's mom, and now they're
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  Speaker 1: best friends. They went from arch enemies that weren't that
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  Speaker 1: they're trying to kill each other, like like Gangster has
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  Speaker 1: this whole scar down the stomach from a fight from
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  Speaker 1: a gang fight. They got into and now they live
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  Speaker 1: together their roommates. Like, how crazy?
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  Speaker 4: Is that different?
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  Speaker 1: Because because of the interview, because I put them in
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  Speaker 1: the same room and I got them back together.
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  Speaker 8: The sitcom there somewhere, Glad, Do you have like favorite
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  Speaker 8: people in an interview? Because I see Boosy up there
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  Speaker 8: airy spirits all the time.
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  Speaker 10: Are you like friends with them? Do they call you?
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  Speaker 10: Are you calling them?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 10: Yo, come up here and talk about this?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean me and Bousy, Uh, you know, we've
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  Speaker 1: had a relationship forever. I'm actually flying out there in
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks to do another feature on him
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  Speaker 1: in his home.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Me and BUSSI is a little bit more business, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Me and aries. You know, we chop it up. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: uh but really, all my regular guests kind of become
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  Speaker 1: friends to a certain degree over time, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because I realized early on I can't keep getting new
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  Speaker 1: people every single day, every single week. So I had
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  Speaker 1: to start, you know, working with repeat guests, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: they worked out. There's certain people that really just kind
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  Speaker 1: of blown up, Like Lord Jamar, he's back on Black
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  Speaker 1: Team again. I'm doing him later today and and you pay, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I paid people. Yeah, all my regular guests get paid.
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  Speaker 5: How did the Lord Jamar situation get recordicized and we
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  Speaker 5: never even talked about that often?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, I mean it happened over the Farakon situation.
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  Speaker 4: So what happened?
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  Speaker 3: You break down white speak.
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  Speaker 1: So so I misquoted Farakhon, and I remember me and
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  Speaker 1: you were talking during that time. There was a video
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: that was circulating that that had FAA cons saying certain
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: things about Jewish people, but the video was cut at
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: a certain time where he kind of explained himself later on,
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  Speaker 1: and then he wasn't really saying what inferred from that
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: particular clip. So at the time, you know, I put
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: out kind of a statement, but I didn't really put
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: out an apology, and a bunch of people got pissed
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: off at me, you know, like you know, Jamar was
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: one of them. So we just stopped talking for about
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: five years. And then my whole thing was like I
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: was planning on doing an apology and so forth. So
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: me and Willie d have been close friends for a
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: long time and he's a big, big paracon support, been
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: on stage with him, long conversation with him, so forth.
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: So I said, listen, when I do the apology. I'm
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: going to come to Houston. I'm going to do it
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: with you. So that's exactly what I did. I flew
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: to Houston. We sat down. I knew it wasn't going
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: to be a softball interview because he really went hard
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: for Faara Cohon. But he was also my friend and
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: he respected me. He never spoke about me publicly and
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: so forth. So we did the interview and it came out,
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: and then you know, it kind of a lot of
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: good Like you know, people like Killer Mike called me
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: to thank me, and you know, and so forth. And
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: Jamar just called me up one day and was like,
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: hey man, like he had mentioned because he did this
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: interview with his pit bull, he had like a baby
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: pit bull in this one interview, and then he had
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: said how his pit bull recently died, and he started
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: to start thinking about kind of like the cycle of
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: life and our relationship and so forth. We got on
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: the phone and we chopped it up. We had a
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: long conversation. Then we had another follow up conversation onic
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: why'd you come back and do the show? He's like, yo,
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: let's do it, and we did it. Now we were
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: rocking back again.
• 14:13
  Speaker 5: It makes me wonder, you know, did Jamar just feel
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: Lloyd Jamal feel like he just had to be like
• 14:19
  Speaker 5: that with you because of public pressure.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, somewhat. I mean there's a lot of that. There's
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: a lot of backlash. And it was like my first
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: like cancel moment. You know, we've all gone through like
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: you know, you two, you know what I mean for
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: a fact, I've gone through it. And the first time
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: you go through it, you're like, damn, like the whole
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: world is turning against me, you know. But then you
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: start to see who your real friends are, you know,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: because certain people like you, you know, like we've always
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: had a close relationship, You've never spoken against me, you know,
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: people like Willie, people like like Trey d and so forth,
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: they may feel a certain type of way, but you know,
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: people like John Sally, people like Michael Jay White, Like,
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: you got to see who you know, your real friends are,
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: who really were there for you. So it was kind
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: of a bad experience and had a good experience at
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: the same time.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: You had a very controversial stance when it came to
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: Ditty right. People were mad at you with your stance with.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: That mean which part, the Cassie part Okay, yeah, yeah,
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: so so.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Breaking up a man.
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: If a man wants to rub another man's not on
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: his nipples, he should be allowed to do that.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: I never said exactly, he never said that.
• 15:19
  Speaker 6: You said Cassie is guilty of the same prostitution charges
• 15:22
  Speaker 6: Diddy was just convicted of. I interviewed three of them,
• 15:25
  Speaker 6: male escorts. All three of them said the same thing.
• 15:27
  Speaker 6: Cassie picked them, contacted them for free cross and enjoyed
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: the experiences. Meanwhile, she's sitting on thirty million dollars and
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: writing letters to the judge asking him to not be
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: giving bail twenty million book.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, I feel, yeah, if Diddy's need no brown,
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: she's g money.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true. But I've interviewed the actual escorts. I
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: have two more escorts that are coming in today, interview tomorrow, Friday, Friday.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Two more escorts are coming in, and every story is
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: exactly the same. Cassie was with it. She would pick
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: them out, she would actually engaged with him. She was happy.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: There was no type of like, you know, being forced
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: to do it now. One of them did say, you know,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: the who I'm interviewing on Friday did say that he
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: saw Diddy abuse her, you know, And what I think
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: is this is ultimately a domestic violence case that has
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: ballooned into rico and sex trafficking and so for. But
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: really what it's about is domestic violence, which is if
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Diddy was charged today, he would be absolutely guilty. He's
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: definitely a monster for doing that. But domestic violence is
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: not this case. It's rico, it's a criminal enterprise. It's
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: sex trafficking, which you know if you look. I did
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: an interview with Shirley jew because I was at the
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Hollywood and locked wards and I was on the red carpet,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: and she asked me, what do you think will happen?
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: This is a couple days before the vert. I said
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: exactly what the verdict was going to be. So he's
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: going to beat the rico, he's going to beat the
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: sex trafficking. He'll probably catch a prostitution charge and probably
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: get a slap on the wrist, and we'll see what happens.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: But isn't it crazy that usually in a prostitution charge, right,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: the prostitutes and the pimp get gets more the charges.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: But in this case they all got immunity.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: Oh they didn't get immunity. Well, no, it's not Cassie.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah got immunity community, we got immunity.
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: Services didn't get it's a big guy in the rico though, right,
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: like we're if we're talking about because how they tried
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: to set it up with the rico.
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: It didn't work. You're the big guy.
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: That's what you offer to everyone else to because you
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: need the evidence, you need people on the stand.
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: So that's not uncommon.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: They lost the rico. They lost. It wasn't a rico.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: And look, the prosecutor got fired right after the verdict,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: which kind of sends a message as to you know,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: they probably told her not to do it, but she's like, no,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what. I'm gonna get him on a rico.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, the whole thing was ridiculous, and I
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: kind of feel like, you know, and what I feel
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: is that when it comes to a battle, right, and
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: we've all kind of gotten into with people in various ways,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: when you win, you should stop. Right. Cassie got thirty
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: million dollars, She got Diddy locked up for a year.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: He's lost hundreds of millions of dollars. No, Diddy has
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: been the new pause, right. He will always be considered
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: gay ish for the rest of his life. He's not
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: going to go to any big award shows, he won't
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: be honored or whatever else.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: He was considered gay before that, No, but.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Not after the come on the nipple thing that that
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: was like, that's was but she didn't know about to
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: come on the nipples. That was crazy. He win an
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: argument with the man again, they can just pull that
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: out on him. So yeah, you know, he got, he got,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: he got found guilty. And after all that, with thirty
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: million in her pockets, she publicly embarrassed him everything else
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: like that, she still wrote a letter to the judge
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: to not let him out before the sentencing.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: Well, that's what a beating comes into play. And I mean,
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: the prosecution didn't prove it, so it don't matter, but
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: the beating comes into play because they were saying because
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: she was such an abused person, she she really didn't
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: want to participate in these things. She was doing it
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: because she was afraid that she might get beating.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: That's not what the participants actually said. I mean, you know,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: don the dealer, this tall guy with green eyes and
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: so forth, like he was like she picked me. We
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: had a great relationship, and they all said if they
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: felt that she was uncomfortable, they would have left, like
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: they you know, but she would pick them, she would
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: pay them, she would be in contact with them, she
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: would meet up with some of them on the side
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: and sneak out. I'm sorry, that's just my opinion.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: They said she didn't have it. They didn't. They never
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: said she had immunity though, never.
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: Said it on the stand, but all the other there
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: was a there was a few other people that got
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: on the stand that they did the whole immunity like
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: whatever that exchange back and forth, it's called they did
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: it while they were on the stand, But they've never
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: directly said that about her.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, who wants to bet that she won't get charged? No, seriously,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars that she won't get charged. So, yeah,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: she would have gotten official immunity, but we all know
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: that she's not gonna get charged.
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: Question, and this is just me being objective.
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: Yes, do you think that because a lot of her
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: letter with keeping him locked up and not getting bail
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: at least, was about the fear of like Diddy, you
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: feel like retaliation, I feel like so you feel like
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: there's no at this point if Diddy was to be
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: let go on bail, and even he's asking for charges
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: to be dropped or get a new trial. If he
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: was to just be let go everything free, he's a
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: changed man. Nothing will happen again. People don't have to
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: worry about nothing. You feel like that.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I think that Diddy is terrified of Cassie. I think
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: there's no person on earth that Diddy is more scared of.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I think he's more scared of like Cassie than sug Knight. Really, yeah,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think I think he's terrified based on what
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: she's done.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: I think he knows it. I think yeah, I think
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: there's some.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: More stuff in there and so forth.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: He can't get no worse.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: He's like, and look, she has thirty million dollars. She
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: can afford green berets and navy seals to surround her
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: house if that's what she wants. She has multi generational wealth,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: multi generational generational wealth. And look at me. I went
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: at it with Tony Busby. I'm Pierce Mortgan. I went in.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I went in because look, you have one hundred victims
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: that all claim they were drugged and rap by Diddy,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: but nobody in the FED case could prove they're drugged
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: and rate by Diddy. They're all found out guilt. You know,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: he was found not guilty at all those charges. You know,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: so you mean to say that all those hundred victims
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: were not part of the trial. I just think it
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: was a bullshit losses. That's why me and him went
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: at it.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: How much would you pay for a Diddy interview?
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: The the first Diddy interview dropped like hundred thousand, drop
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: a hundred thousand.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: For the number though, you have to do a little
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: bit better for Diddy.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, he's rich. Like, I don't think you
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: can pay Diddy. I don't think there's enough money because
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: he's still probably worth hundreds of millions of dollars. There's
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: certain people that like, you can't really pay because they're
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: not gonna do it. They're gonna do it because they
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: want to do it.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, has anybody reached out for his family that wants
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: to sit down?
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: Okay, you recently had some comments abou Nicque Minaj as
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: well Snitchey Minaj. Yes, do you do you really think
• 21:52
  Speaker 8: what she did with when she talked to Ane Luna
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: about top Dog threatening her life?
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, number one top Dog did not threat in
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: her life. There was this other guy that worked for
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I think he was like a DJ or something like that.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I forgot his name, but he made a comment that said, oh,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: you know, NICKI don't want with TD. See what Kendrick did?
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: You know? She don't want to be in the blender.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: And suddenly she's like, TD is threatening my life at
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: FBI at CIA, and then like Luna was like, we're
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: gonna investigate this. It's like, you don't, damn well, nobody
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: threaten your life. You know, damn well, nobody threatens your
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: life without little comment you Nicki Minaj. So you turn around,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: people call me the fans, but she's literally tagging the
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: FBI and CIA talking to representatives who are investigating the situation. Yes,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Niche Minaj.
• 22:39
  Speaker 10: How do you know? How do you know that they didn't?
• 22:41
  Speaker 10: How do you know someone did not threaten her life?
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Though she's basing it on that that was a direct
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: response to some guy going on live saying, oh, you'll
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: get put in the blender. Do you really think that
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: this guy is gonna chop her up and put her
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: in a blender? Like seriously, seriously, come.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: On, I'm sure Bobs went at you for a couple days.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, they still go at me.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: But I thought they're putting the blender with slang.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Exactly rap, Like she's a rapper, it's rapper slang. Cut
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: it out, cut it out. I don't know what she's on.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: But this tirade she went on, and the whole thing
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: of calling Sis ugly and so far, it was like,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Sis really don't bother nobody, you know what I'm saying,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: She really doesn't bother anybody.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Crazy on you.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, oh, we're gonna kill you, kill your family like that.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: You don't like and no moments you don't contact nobody.
• 23:38
  Speaker 11: No, no, put it on her. No no, no, not Now.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Someone shows up at my house.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: But we're not talking about that.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: But someone shows up at my house, then then yeah,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna absolutely contact you. Thought, oh yeah, definitely, you know,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: or I'm going to protect myself one of the two.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: But yeah, like like we all, every one of this
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: room knows, there's the Internet and there's real life, and
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: the two are rarely related. These same people that say
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: they're gonna kill you on the internet, if they meet you,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: they want a photo that's real life. When I walk around,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I'm loved. People want to take pictures of me, you guys,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I'll go through this. This is not just me, this
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: is everybody. They want to take pictures of me. They
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: want to take pictures with the kids. You know. They
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: tell me how much they love my interviews and so forth.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: But on the internet you would think that I'm hated.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: But that's not reality.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: But also, but also the game needs villains. I don't
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: have a problem being the bad guy.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the bad guy.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Sometimes I'm cool.
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: Yeah, me too.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I don't need.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: I could be part of the doctor.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Do that's cool. That's again.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Somebody you interviewed that walked out was like, I'm not
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: doing this.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I walked out in the middle of the interview. I mean,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: ugly god did at one point. I think he apologized
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: he was going through a lot of like personal, like
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: mental issues, and we talked about that afterwards. Tretch kind
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: of walked out at the end. I just walk Tupac questions.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: You know, we were just start talking about the Tupac murder
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: and so forth, and I think Tretch feels that he
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: was assassinated and there was more to it, and he
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: started to get kind of emotional, so he kind of
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: he didn't like storm out, but he got up and
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: was like, man, you know, I can't talk to about
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: this anymore, and so forth. But in general, like I
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: don't do I don't keep pushing people to the point
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: of them like snapping. You know, it's just not my
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: style because I also I'm not trying to have a
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: platform where people while out and storm out and so forth,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: like that's you know, Adam is a little bit more
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: like that. He kind of likes that. But if you
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: look at my my platform, I've never really been into that.
• 25:37
  Speaker 10: Has anybody ever told you a story that got your emotional?
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, a few times. A few times. The girl
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Mia from the Take Cay case when she was talking
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: about the you know, her sex trafficking and what she
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: went through and being like a teenager and being forced
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: to have sex with a bunch of men in motel
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: rooms and being forced to be a stripper and so forth,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: that got me emotional a few times. A few times
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I started kind of cry a little bit.
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, what about the date twenty sixth interview right
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: when you and him crying.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't personally get emotional during that, but that
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: was kind of a crazy interview, because you know, because
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I've had a person cry. I mean, I probably have
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: maybe a dozen interviews with people cried on camera, but
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I've never seen a whole group of people start to
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: cry at the same time. And they cried in harmony, Yeah,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: in harmony.
• 26:30
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and that was crazy because they was up here
• 26:32
  Speaker 10: a week before.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you were done already though.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:36
  Speaker 10: Okay, so they came to you first. Okay, when did
• 26:39
  Speaker 10: you take I.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Think they came. I think they came to you think.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I think you guys had them first.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, did you text me one time? He was like, damn,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: I was sad when we did out.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: And if you think it was like when I released,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: you're gonna see them crying, and the reason why I thought.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'm pretty sure, Maybe maybe I'm wrong. I
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: don't know. These dates kind of start to kind of
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: maild a little bit.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Did you ever find out what what why they all cried?
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Well, well, I think you talked about it later. He
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: said that he was drugged, Oh, drugged her, which she's denied,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: and then he woke up in a room and everyone
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: was laughing at him or something, and I don't know.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: She she denied the whole thing. I don't know, I
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: But they didn't give a fuck about don Aucassie's testimony.
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: On that note, one of the drawers came out afterwards
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: saying that they that was Dawn they thought was the
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: least credible. If well, he was an alternate jurer, if
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: he had to actually work going, he would have thought
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: she was least credible.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what did you think of ge Herbal's challenge to
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: you in academics? He said that I think it was
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: during the Adam freed Land in of you, he said,
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: I challenged academics, Blad and others to donate money to
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: kids in Chicago since since they made money off their pain.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: Is the exact quote was, I feel like all those
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: kinds of guys, what they should do is give to
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: a nonprofit organization in Chicago. I'm gonna challenge him to
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: do that, like academics, Blad, all you n words that
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: made money off the culture and people dying in bloodshed
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: and shit like that, donate go donate twenty grand to
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: fifty grand to a nonprofit organization that focused on the
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: betterment of kids.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: So it's a two part question. Really, how did you
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: feel when he calls you dan work.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, at the end of the day, the
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: obvious response, you know that the kne jerk creactions like,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: well what about you? You have you say GdK in
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: your lyrics. You know that's gangster, discipled killer and you
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: have all these violent lyrics.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: But Giovo does a lot though, was that Grbo does
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: do a lot?
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, at the end of the day,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I think we could all do things that kind of
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: help out. I think we all have a part in it.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I think me, academics and g Herbal and a lot
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: of the other drill artists have a part because we
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: all talk about it, and we all publicize it, and
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: you could say that just putting it out there could create,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: you know, negative situations. So you know, I've been talking
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: to g Herbal's people about doing an interview and actually
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: talking about it face to face on it because I
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: think that in that situation, the interviewer, I forgot what
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: his name is, Adam Freeman. It was funny, I just
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: did academics, this guy there's a picture here in blackface
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: that interviewer. Yeah, like like academics actually pulled out the photo.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: So this dude's a racist, you know what I'm saying.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: And I think he was purposely poking the bear to
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: try to get a you know, to try to get
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: a reaction out of Herbal. But I've interviewed gee Herbal
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: since he was a little herb, right, we have multiple interviews.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I think that we could all instead of saying and
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: start pointing the finger at each other and saying, you're
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: doing this, you're doing this, why don't we all come together,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: maybe donate together, because we all have a part in
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: this in our own way. You know, nobody's completely innocent.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: But ultimately, when you look at vlad TV interviews and
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I've interviewed a lot of these Chicago guys, when I
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: bring up certain beef situations, it's always in the context
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: of like can you can you guys work it out?
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: A lot of these guys I know both parties. Like
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: for example, you look at like the Young and Ace
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: and Fulio situation. I've talked to both of them about
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: possibly working an eye. I can get both of y'all
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: on the phone. They didn't want to do it, and ultimately,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: you know, Fulio got killed not because of the Young
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: and Ace, but you know, through others situations but it's
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: like I always try to d esclay situations. I told
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: FPG Ducky should move out of Chicago multiple times, and
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: then the worst possible thing happens. Like you see this
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: a lot. But I've always tried to get peace with people,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: just like I talked about it the Terrence Gangster Williams
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: a little Diesel situation. I try to bring people together
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: and get them to be cool with each other because
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of times when people can get on the
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: phone and have an actual, real conversation, like, look, me
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: and you have had problems, how do we fix it? Conversation,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Me and you had little issues over the time, and
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: we fixed it. Like these are all grown adults. We
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: can all fix it. But the problem is nobody talks
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: to each other. People look at comments, people at social
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: media amp them up. They have their friends around them
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: that tell them fuck them, we're not gonna do it,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: and so forth, and then it gets worse and worse
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: and worse, and then people try to outdo themselves, you know,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: because the worst thing in my generation in terms of
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: diss tracks was Tupac when you said I'll fuck your bitch,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: and everyone's like, oh, we can't get any worse that
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: it got worse than that. Chief Chief Keith came around
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: and suddenly it's like smoking my ops. And then Fullio
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: came around doing videos, you know, in front of people's
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: grave sites, holding up pictures of the people that were killed.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Some of them were like teenagers, you know. And I
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: remember there's an interview with Boosy in my next Boosey Interview,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring this up. I said, Yo, someone's gonna
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: try to out ignorant each other. You know, someone's trying
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: to do out ignorant the game. I bet you someone's
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: gonna dig up one of their enemies trying it. And
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: after I said that, someone blew up a grave site.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: What's next? They tried to do that? And then somebody
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: members somebody tried to do it was Pop Smoke's grave.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Got desecrated, you know what I'm saying, Like it's.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: I think it's easier to have conversations when you and
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: a person at a previous relationship, Like it was easy
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: for me and you to have contents because we were
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: actually friends and still friends, you know what I mean.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: And I felt like I did something fucked up, you know,
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: so I reached out so that I think it's different
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: when you actually have a previous relationship with somebody.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but even people that don't really have previous relationships,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: like me and Joe Bunden ran into each other I
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: think in December, and you know, I saw him looking
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: at me. We were a bro dwarf goodman. I looked over.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shit, Joe Budden, He's like looking at me.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I walked up to him, we shook hands, we had
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: a short conversation, and then that's it. I spoke about
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: it publicly. He spoke about it publicly. The story's matched up,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: and it was like, yo, like we don't have to
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: keep going at it, you know, And most times it's
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: like people think that they have to in order to
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: go viral and so forth, when most times it's like
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: it doesn't really accomplish anything, especially when you talk about media.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I've always been very big about reaching out to media people. Early.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I was the first person to reach out to you
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: when you were in South Carolina and put you on a.
• 32:42
  Speaker 9: National yeah.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Two or three yeah, yeah, two thousand and three, somewhere
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: around that time. So I've always academics Adam Sean Cotton
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Trapla Ross ten ninety, Jake, everybody, Like, I've reached out
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: to all these PEO people. I've offered any sort of
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: help that I could do. I've brought them on my platform,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I've done their platforms, and I feel like we could
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: all be better off if we all work together as
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: opposed to beefing. I think media people beefing each other stupid,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: absolutely stupid.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know that new generation.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: But to your point, it's like, yeah, you know, like
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: me and you know each other's Columbia SID Caroline you BDVD, Yeah, Academics.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: I knew Act when ACT was doing college radio.
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: I was I'm DJ Academics first interview ever, the first
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: person you ever sat down an interview with me, Joe
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: Budden used to come to South Carolina and be hanging
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: out in my apartment.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Really, Yeah, it's just like, yeah, it is.
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: Kind of strange, But I think it's harder because like
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: a lot of people who don't know you only get
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: the perception of like what people say about you and
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: then what they see online and like because like there's
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: been times where you've even come out after tweets and
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: you've apologized for certain things with like the girl from
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: How Princeton and then the boss Man Dilo stuff. Yeah,
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: like but they don't. But people don't know you before that.
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: They just know people say about you.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: Somebody is fault because I don't know why Bladd decided
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: to be a personality.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: Could have just been you could have just been asking
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: the question.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Then you started to decide to be a personality and
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: coming at people.
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: That kind of your your tweets be like, yeah, sometimes
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: I'm surprised.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like five million impressions on this random ass tweet,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Like ten million impressions. I have something I do. I do,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: but then again, I don't know what's going to take off.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Like it's like wow, like this is all World Star
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: and Shade Room and people are having interviews about and
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: so forth. I didn't think. I don't know, Like I
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: never thought that this would be what I was doing
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: in my life. Like I was just a hip hop fan.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: I bought every Source magazine, about every double X Sale magazine.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I was just you know, neurotic about loving hip hop,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: and I just thought that I was going to be
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: a fan for the rest of my life, and then
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: at one point it turned into something else. So the
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: fact that I'm here is always like a shock. So
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: when people recognize me in public or when the tweets
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: go viral, I'm always just flattered more than anything else.
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: Speaking of you know, people just communicating and get on
• 35:07
  Speaker 8: the phone and talk and have you and Marlon Wayne's
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: settled jaw differences.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: You haven't talk. I texted him, and you know, I apologize.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I was going through a really rough patch. I was
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: going through a really rough patch in my life and
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: he just happened to be interacting with me at that point.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: And the thing about that was, you know, he had
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: you know, he had asked me through his representative, he
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: wanted forty thousand dollars plus thirty percent of all future
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: revenues to do an interview. And I'm like, you don't
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: charge anyone for that, Like Walton Waite's been here multiple times.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: How much you guys pay him?
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: Breakfast Club doesn't pay though you do, but you have
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: a reputation for paying people.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, all the interviews he's done, I know all the platforms.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: I personally know the people that he's done all the
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: platforms with nobody has paid him for the interviews or
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: no one's paid any sort of significant amount of money.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: But I felt like him hitting up for forty thousand
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: was just sort of like, well, just say, don't fuck
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: with me that, don't ask me for this crazy amount
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: of money. But me and him had a conversation. He
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: was very cool and very polite about it. And I
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: was just being an asshole. Like I said, I was
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: going through a bunch of stuff and I just decided
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: to make it public and that turned into a whole
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: back and forth to a whole roasting session or he
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: roasted me, I roasted him, and so forth. But you know,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: when the dust settled, I'm like, he didn't deserve any
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: of this. Very mature, Yeah, I said, I was just
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: being an asshole, Like I was just being a jerk,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: because when it comes to interviews, you know this, Like
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I'm really I really just like I take it too
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: personally sometimes because this is my whole life and this
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: is my legacy, Like this is what I do. So
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: when there's someone who I respect and I feel like
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I have a platform, I have a big platform that
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: if you do blad TV, you're not doing me a favor,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Like this is going to get out there, this is
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: going to cause you to get more business more shows
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: like people's entire careers were built off of doing blat
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: TV interviews, especially comedians, because I'm always been so locked
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: in with comedians, from from Aries to T. K. Kirkland,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: who constantly says that you know that he's he's been
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: helped out by doing blad TV interviews to even like
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: the newer guys like like Will Mills and stuff like that.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Like I've always reached out cause I've been a comedy fan.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: So I just felt like, you just hit me up
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: for this type of money. But you know, at the
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: end of the day, it was just a business conversation.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: It should have been kept private, and I was being
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: a jerk about it. So I personally apologized in the
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: text message. He didn't respond, Yeah, OK, yeah. We had
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: each other's numbers, so you know, he didn't respond, and
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: he spoke about it, and you guys, you know, had
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: him on your show and so forth, and I think
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: he's still a little salty about it, and that's that's
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: his right. I understand. I don't expect my apology to
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: ultimately hit home every time, but he knows what it is.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: So if we run into each other, we'll probably have
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: a in person conversation if.
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: He wanted to come down, the door still open for him.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, not for forty maybe like ten, maybe like ten.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: I mean his number is number is a big stock.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I understand your numbers, your number to a certain degree.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, there's also the market. Right.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: So for example, you know you look at like a
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: stand up, you look like an airy Spears being him,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: talked about this, right, Harry Spears does clubs. He's always
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: booked in clubs. Now he could tell his agent from
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: here on in, I'm only doing stadiums. If it's not
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: a stadium, don't call me. You know what's gonna happen.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: No call, No, it's not gonna have any calls.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: So you could say that your number is this, but
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: the market and the views don't support that. And what
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I said was like when he did you know the
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club last time, it got less than a million views.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: Now I think he got a million on rever.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: You know, look at what it was I thought he posted.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: It was like see I did.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: No, he comes a lot though, Look up, Look up
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: the last Breakfast Club interview with Marlin Ways, look at
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: the numbers.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: Let's see I think he's been here since the home.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: A year ago, he got an interview that did four
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: hundred thousand.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Four hundred thousand was about five thousand dollars. Okay, no, no, no,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I know. YouTube four hundred thousand views is about five
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars. And you guys are a big platform where
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: we have a similar size overall, you guys do radio,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: but on YouTube we have a similar size.
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: But then he was here a year ago. That was
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: a year ago to one that got punted. He was
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: here nine months ago and it.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Got Okay, so that's ten thousand dollars.
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: But around the time, around the time where was the.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Forty thousand dollars come in?
• 39:21
  Speaker 9: You see what I'm saying.
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: Shot right after y'all think nine.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Those numbers look a little little sketchy.
• 39:30
  Speaker 9: Sketchy.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Every other platform does this number, and suddenly is this number.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Those numbers look a little sketchy.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: I mean months ago, she had a big part of
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: the our groom.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: You know how that works too.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying when you you know, every time
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: you do a platform, you get this and suddenly you're
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: like ten times that I don't know.
• 39:52
  Speaker 10: And then it also depends on what you're talking about too,
• 39:55
  Speaker 10: you know what I mean?
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was the follow up interview after our
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: beef and so forth. But I don't think that was
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: even a dressed in the interview, so I.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Don't know if it was.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: No, it wasn't.
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: Can we talk about that for a second, because you've
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: been on YouTube for a long time.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, YouTube does favor.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: New right, well, brand new clips well, I mean yeah,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: brand new it was favored absolutely.
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: But even new platforms. I think, no, you know things,
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: no talking, no talk to me, no.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, YouTube does a great job that if
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: you have a strong video, then it'll get it out there.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: But I mean if you don't have the subscribers and
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: you don't have the following, and it's not being like
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: viewed and viewed and viewed like TikTok is pretty good
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: at that, Like you could have a TikTok page one
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: thousand followers and suddenly get like five million views. But
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: YouTube is not like that.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: YouTube is shadow band does blacklisted us?
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: What they send us emails that says like this content
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: doesn't necessarily violate our terms and agreement, we just deem
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: it inappropriate.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Like what.
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: And you know, when it started It started after January sixth,
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: when I gave Donkey of the Day to who I
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: called Vanilla isis the people who stole them the Capitol
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: when they first thin how is this inappropriate for me
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: to get him don get to day?
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: And it's been kind of like I mean, but you.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Know, yeah, it varies. We shout out to tomorl and
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: wayins Man like he's a legend what he does, and
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: I apologize publicly. I know that he didn't accept the apology,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, I was wrong
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: for putting personal business out in the public, and that's
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: what I apologize for. But I still will say forty
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars was just a number that wasn't reasonable.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: So was it.
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: I would think it would be the thirty percent of
• 41:30
  Speaker 8: revenue that comes from the content you tripped over to
• 41:33
  Speaker 8: forty thousand.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Well, the thirty percent wasn't reasonable either, you know. You
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: know now, if feels nothing in thirty percent, then that
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: would have been an interesting conversation. But forty thousand plus
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: thirty percent, I mean, we would have to get like
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: thirty million views to like break even, Like it's really
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: like a huge amount that that didn't really make sense
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: based on his overall numbers. Now it feels Cat Williams'd
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: be a different conversation.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Got but what was your biggest interview? At you the
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: most revenue?
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: The the interview with Roger Bonds went crazy? Oh wow? Yeah.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: So Roger Bonds was Diddy's had of security for like
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: ten years, and he first hand saw the abuse between
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Diddy and Cassie as well as all the other crazy
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: stuff that was happening. And we did the interview right
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: before Diddy was arrested, so it was doing okay, but
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: then when he was arrested, suddenly, sure it went. It
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: went crazy and just kept going crazy for like a
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: couple of months.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: How almost did it do?
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Oh? I mean the full interview did like maybe two
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: two three million views, but then all the clips did
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: a lot and so forth. So it did. It did
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: some big numbers, and I had him back since then.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Why did you think he wasn't on a stand Because
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: he wasn't.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: They contacted him, they contacted his lawyer, but they ultimately
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: didn't bring him on, which surprised me a little bit.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I thought the fans fumbled that
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: whole case, period, So it doesn't totally surprise me.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: I feel like you get more views for things outside
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: of hip hop.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Sometimes, yeah, sometimes, But you know, lat TV has never
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: been the darling of the music industry. You think about it, like,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: we don't really work with any of the labels anymore.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: If we work with artists, it's usually directly from the artists,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: like all the pr you know, sections of the labels
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: like don't rock with me. So we had to figure
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: out how to do it. We had to go outside,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: you know, outside the box. We had to start bringing
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: in people that other people really weren't you know, rocking with,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: and they're ignoring. So this is where some of the
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: guests that became regular guests, like Lord Jamar was not
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: like a hot hip hop artist at the time that
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I brought him on, and he became a big personality
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: because we kept putting him on. I mean, Brand Nubian
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: hadn't put out, you know, music in quite a while.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: But you know, I always try to just sit there
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: and kind of think outside the box. Like I'll be
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: watching Netflix, I'll be like, oh, okay, you know the man
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: with a thousand kids. That sounds like an interesting interview.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Let's fly him in from Amsterdam and have a conversation
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: with him and it'll be like that.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: That's always been my mentality.
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: We've talked about this a million times, Like I feel
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: like the whole hip hop media thing it's a glass ceiling,
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: right because you're.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: Only going to interview Jay Z once, if.
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: At all, if at all, I've never you know what
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: I mean, Like you're now You're only gonna get these
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: interviews like once. So it's just like, why can't hip
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: hop personalities talk to, you know, people outside of hip
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: hop and why do you get penalized for that as
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: a hip hop media journalist.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Whatever I mean, I don't consider myself a strictly hip
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: hop media personality, Like I've always been outside the box.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: So I've never looked at it that way, And like
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: I said, a lot of it is because I had
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: to do it now. Look, if I was on the
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: list for every promo run for every big artist, I'd
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: probably be focusing more on just hip hop and music.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: But I don't get that luxury.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: No, you wouldn't because it's still not a lot of holes.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: How many of old have we seen this year? Push
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: the clips? Who else? Like seriously think about it like
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: these a artists don't be doing those runs like that.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: No more.
• 44:50
  Speaker 8: Kamala would have been a big interview for you. Did
• 44:52
  Speaker 8: they ever tell you, Comma.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Kama, we reached out, we were having conversations.
• 44:57
  Speaker 8: Would have explained to you why they passed no.
• 45:01
  Speaker 9: No.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: But she fumbled a lot of stuff during her you know,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: during her campaign, and I've publicly said how it was
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: a huge mistake for not to do Joe Rogan. I
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: think that she had she had more of a chance
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: of winning if she had done Joe Rogan, because Joe
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Rogan did Trump and did uh Jade Vans exactly. Both
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: of them came in sat with him for hours, whereas
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Kamala said, you have to come to me and you
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: have a limited amount of time. And I just thought
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: that was a mistake. Yeah, And I think if I
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: had done a Kamala interview, we had like multiple hours
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: that could ask whatever we want, it would have been
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: like her biggest interview in you know, probably in her life, honestly,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: because I really would have really gone in and so far.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: And I voted for Kamala. You know, I have pictures
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: of me voting for Kamla.
• 45:49
  Speaker 10: So you know, do you think our biggest fumble was.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: I think that at the end of the day, we
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: didn't really know who she was. I love, love them
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: or hate him. Trump was transparent. He came in and
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: did all these podcasts, you know, and he did all
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: these all these talks for multiple hours, and you got
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: to know who he really was as a person. I
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: think Kamala to this day is still an enigma, and
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: I think that the people just didn't connect. And look,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day.
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: She announce her book today too. She dropped a book
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: called one hundred and seven Days for pre order.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's cool, Like I voted for I like Kamala,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: But it was just one of those things where people
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: who supported Trump were gonna come out, They're gonna bring
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: their friends, they're gonna tell everyone they're going to campaign
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: and so forth. People when it came to Kamala were
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: a little bit I don't know, I don't know. And
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: when you saw the final numbers, the last time you
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: saw a blowout like that was I think Obama's first election.
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: It wasn't a blowout, though it was a blow he
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: lost all the swing states number.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: But actually will like, look at all the votes of
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Trump versus Comedy.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: Look at that actual number. There wasn't a blow out
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: at all.
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: It was like it was not even not even I'm
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: tell you right now, it wasn't a blowout.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: She did lose all the swing states.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: It was a couple of million.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm gonna tell you right now.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Look at the last time you've seen that type of
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: gap for the presidential election. It was Obama. Remember I
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: looked it up. So you're talking about what fifteen years.
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you all right now.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: And she lost a lot of states.
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Kamala had seventy five point I mean seventy a
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: little bit over seventy five million votes, and Trump had
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: a little bit over seventy seven million votes.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: A couple million, Yeah, it was Okay.
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: What I think the matter of fact, the percentage of
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: the popular vote, Kamala was forty eight point three.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: Trump was forty nine point eight.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: So okay, okay, you're right. I think what I'm talking
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: about is the actual You look at what do you
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: call the states things?
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: When you count the what do you call the vote votes?
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: We took the electoral college votes, That's what I'm talking about.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: It was two twenty sixty three twelve.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: That's a that's a blowout. Two twenty six versus three twelve.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. Last time that happened was
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Obama's first election two twenty six versus three twelve. That's huge.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: It's pretty big. It's pretty big.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: It was a letdown.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what what?
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Who do you want to talk to?
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Who do you want to sit down with that you
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: haven't yet that's been in the works. Maybe it could happen.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Can't happen?
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Who is that one person that you said I would
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: love to sit down and talk to him. We're trying
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: to make it happen.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, this can't happen anymore. But me and O. J.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Simpson were in talks.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: You never talked to OJ, never talked to OJ.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: We were about to do it. I was gonna pay
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: them one hundred thousand, right, and you know he had
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: to go through like another guy because he had lawsuit
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: that he wasn't paying back.
• 48:42
  Speaker 10: Darland is gonna be pissed me.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: So me and O. J. Simpson were supposed to do
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: an interview. They just said, don't get too deep into
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: the blood evidence and stuff like that, and I said,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: that's cool. You know, I'll touch on the trial, but
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know why it mattered at this point, but
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: go ahead.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Right. So it was all set up and they was like, okay,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: he wants cash. So I talked to my account. They're like, okay,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: we can do cash. They just have to fill out
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: a W nine and do an invoice whatever.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: You couldn't give it to him directly.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I did to give him to his man, right, I said, okay, cool,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: we'll do cash. It's like, okay, I need the full
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: amount before he gets out the car, and I'm like, yo,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: he owes like ten million dollars. He's never paid, like
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: he's he's a crook, always.
• 49:25
  Speaker 10: Bringing up somebody person like some.
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: Money.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: If you have a reputation of not paying people and
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: you want all your money up front. And I even said, look,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: I'll give him fifty thousand up front and fifty thousand
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: at the end of the interview. No, they would not budge.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: They would not budge so business wise, because look, my
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: fear was like, we get fifteen minutes into the interview.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: I asked him a question he doesn't like, and he
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: walks out, what am I gonna do?
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: That's great.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna shoot him like you know, I'm not
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: gonna tackle him like.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: Like you know, has great reviews, you get old, just.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Not one hundred thousand great reviews like it. It's a
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: viral moment, and everyone will take that clip and run
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: with it. People think like viral does not always mean
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: money on the track.
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: But depending on the question you ask him, that causes
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: him to walk out O J.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: Simpson, that's international news.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, possibly, but I can't. But that's not what I'm
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: here to do. I'm not here to have a viral
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: ten seconds. I'm here to actually get OJ's first real
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: sit down interview talking about his whole life. And ultimately
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: he passed away, so I never got it. You know,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: would it probably gone well? Probably? But as a small business,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: I can't take one hundred thousand dollars risks. I mean
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I could, but it's not good business sense to do that.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: I'm a CEO, I have a dozen employees, I have
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: office space, I have people who depend on me to
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: pay their rent. So I can't just sit there and
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: gamble a hundred thousand with someone who doesn't want to work.
• 50:49
  Speaker 7: With me, doing conversation like how close to his passing.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Look a year, you think, oh you did it. Yeah,
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: we're you gonna ask him about did he do? Was
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: that going to be one of the things I want
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: to dance around it somewhat?
• 51:02
  Speaker 7: He wrote a book it's yeah.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I did it. If I did it, If I did
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I think, I think you did. I mean I even interviewed,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: uh Kato Kaitlin, you know who was there when it
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: all happened, and he was telling me how like you know,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: after it happened and everyone's in the house and Kato's
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: in the house, and he was like, uh, yeah, Kato's
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: with me the whole time. He knows that Kados like
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: how was out with you? We went to McDonald's and
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: came back and then you disappeared for a while, Like
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: you know, He's like, I gotta get the hell up
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: out of here.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: I do wish you know? Did you? And I'm glad
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: That's why I'm glad.
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: I'm glad you started that series where you're talking to
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: people about their business and how they make money off YouTube,
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: because like the stuff that you just said even a
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: little while ago, like just that business aspect of it,
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: it's not worth one hundred thousand. I want to hear
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: more of that because I think that these kids are
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: dellusional as to what people are making online.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Well well, okay, so so if you go to the
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: blat TV YouTube channel, YouTube dot comslas flat tv, we
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: have two tiers of membership. So we have the regular tiers,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: so for five dollars you can get the full interview
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: on the first day, but then there's one hundred dollars tiers,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: which is the lad TV YouTube Masterclass, where I actually
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: have exclusive interviews where it talks about, you know, with
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: people like academics and ten ninety Jake and people like
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: that that actually have shown how they've built their YouTube
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: businesses to make hundreds of thousands or even millions of
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: dollars off their channel, as well as I have lessons
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: where I break down exactly what I did. I actually
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: show my studio, I show the equipment, I show the
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: money that's made and so forth, actually showing people how
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: to build up YouTube channels. And you know, it's been
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: it's been great. A lot of people have joined up.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: You know, we do live sessions, and I think it's
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: really dope to kind of give back to show people
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: because so many people have made careers. Like I said,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Terrence Kanster Williams have made careers off of YouTube channels
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: to the point where they can just work at home.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: You know, for example, like Trench's News. You know that
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: clip is coming out I think today, where he makes
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: over one hundred thousand a year. He doesn't even show
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: his face, wears a mask the whole time, and he
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: does these stories about Chicago in his bedroom and he
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: could support himself and his family. He's made. I think
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: he has kids to just do these types of YouTube
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: channels and they don't have to get like a nine
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: to five job. They work for themselves, They decide when
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: they want to work. They create their own content. A
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: lot of these guys edited themselves also, So yeah, you
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: too masterclass.
• 53:14
  Speaker 6: With the people that you're talking about, right that's making
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: money online and like they're becoming the outlets. The Complex
• 53:19
  Speaker 6: hip hop media list just dropped. Yeah, and it always
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: caused the controversy, but this year I think people were
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: particularly arguing most about like you got Considant on the
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: list and then poy Max you're on the list, academics
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: on the list. Is there people that you think should
• 53:32
  Speaker 6: not be on the list or should have been on
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: that list because you you're helping people come up in
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: this game that are being placed there.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: I think the list is relatively accurate. You were five,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: I was six. I'm always just flattered to be on
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: these lists. I remember I was scrolling up from thirty
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, I'm not gonna be on this year.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: That's cool, you know. And then I was like six.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, that's cool. Like I thought I was
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: a little hotter last year than this year, but they
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: want to give it to me. I'll take that. I
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: think everyone, like the Kai Sinots of the world, that
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: they have pushed the envil hope to create something new
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: the streaming platform. I think black Boy Max is like
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: number four or something more on that list. Like these
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: guys you know and girls have come come and created
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: something that really has not been around before. And you
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: can't deny what Kay Sanad has done. I mean he's
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: had Nicki Minaj and all these other you know, Kevin
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: Hart's and all these other major celebrities on his stream
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: and they've all looked good being on that strip.
• 54:29
  Speaker 10: Being messy. This is all just great positive content.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: That's true. Look, I've never I've never really hated unless
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: you've hated on me first. I've always been like, yo,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: that's dope. And I've had people like Neon, you know,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: on my platform. I admire what they've done. Like when
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Neon said he spends two hundred thousand a month just
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: to pay people to clip his content, you know, and
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: that's on the Flag TV two Masterclass, I'm like, huh,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: that's that's interesting. That's impressive, you know, to to invest
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: that type of money back into your own business, especially
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: when you're a relatively young person. I think it's amazing.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: You guys had one to show that was a whole
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: how you fucked about the view. I didn't really watch it,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: to be honest, but I guess you brought up some
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: racist comments that he had done in the past.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: Everything I didn't even know about.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: I didn't know about that either.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: I didn't know.
• 55:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I know the stuff that how you want the
• 55:20
  Speaker 7: Internet and you don't know.
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: I did like the.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Stuff later, I didn't know about all that I knew.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: I knew about and that stuff, but I found that
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: out like thirty minutes before the interview.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't follow the Dion's of the world.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: The same I'm fifty.
• 55:34
  Speaker 7: Two, but you don't.
• 55:35
  Speaker 6: I mean I didn't, so I don't follow neon either.
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: But when he was coming here, the minute I typed
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: his name and TikTok, those were the first things that
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: came up.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you ain't playing what he was?
• 55:43
  Speaker 7: I did?
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: You played one?
• 55:45
  Speaker 7: I played?
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: We didn't.
• 55:45
  Speaker 7: I mean we moved on after that. I had. We
• 55:48
  Speaker 7: had a whole conversation before I came in here, didn't
• 55:50
  Speaker 7: we you weren't here.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: I thought about all the stuff that she played the other.
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: Day, a new conversation, like I mean stuff before the interview.
• 55:59
  Speaker 9: You just knew about that, not all.
• 56:00
  Speaker 8: Of the stuff, but this relatively, because he was saying
• 56:04
  Speaker 8: a bunch of ship.
• 56:07
  Speaker 10: We were here.
• 56:08
  Speaker 9: She played a video.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: The video.
• 56:11
  Speaker 10: She was not.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: The black.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: I can assure you that if that was looking. I
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: don't do my own research sometimes, like you know, my
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: assistant Evan does a lot of the research for me,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: so sometimes we miss certain things. I could assure you
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: that if I had known about that, it would have
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: been brought up in the interview, because I talked about
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: him faking his death and stuff like that. I assure
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: you that if it was in my notes, I would
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: have included I was that softballing neon on any level,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: But certain things would just kind of slip past me.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: After the fact. They'd be like, oh, why did you
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: ask about that? It's like, oh, you're.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: Right, sometimes forgot about I can.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Tell you that that was just a gap that we had,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: and I would have brought it up, But in this case,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't bring it up, but I brought up a
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: lot of other controversial stuff in that interview.
• 56:58
  Speaker 6: Do you ever get tired of people tell you that
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: you should be more of like a fan of the
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: culture and not an actual commentator because you're not black. No,
• 57:06
  Speaker 6: When the Princeton thing happened with the lady we talked
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: about earlier that worked there, why did you decide to
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: apologize in that situation.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Well, because a person that was very close to me,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: you know, had a conversation about it. You know, they
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: want to be left out of the conversations. I'm not
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: going to say who it is, but someone that everyone
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: here knows, and they sort of explained to me that, like,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: look like this is just an online back and forth.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: It shouln't affect people's jobs. So the fact that I
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: like tagged Princeton. You know. When I responded to her,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that was fucked up, you know the
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: end of the day though, But you guys addressed it
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: as well. I still feel that someone who works for
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: an IVY league, you know, university like Princeton, because I
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: went to UC Berkeley myself, which is kind of like
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: an IVY league, you know, in his own right, Like
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: people of that caliber should be held to a higher standard.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: So when someone says, you know, and if you look
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: at that whole situation, all I said was the mixed
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: quality of Kendrick's not like us takes away from the
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: song a little bit. His actual engineer later on came
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: forward and said, yeah, Kendrick called me and said put
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: this out in thirty minutes, and I had to just
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: throw throw a rough mix together and throw it out.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: The final mix was actually improved. So all I said
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: was I didn't say the song was whack. I didn't
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: say it was important, it wasn't important, and so forth.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: I said, the mix quality slightly takes away from it.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: And her response was, you are white. This is black
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: people's business.
• 58:31
  Speaker 7: I'm black folk affair.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Black folk affair, and I'm like, this is a prince
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: a professor saying this, this is crazy.
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: You walked to some of these studios, you'd be surprised
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: most of these mixes that are mixing these records are white.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: White.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize, right. I also didn't realize at the time,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: you know, based on her name, that this is Rodney
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Jerkins's niece. I know Rodney Jerkins. I interviewed him at
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: his home in Hidden Hills. We were maintaining contact. So
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: the first thing that happen, and I think maybe a
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: day later, you know, when I apologized and said, listen,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: I was just trolling. I never called Princeton. I never
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: tried to get her to lose her job. I was
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: just I thought she was trolling me with that comment.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: So I'm like trolling her back, right, I never did
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: anything to that regard, and the last I checked, she's
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: still a Princeton. Right. So the first thing Rodney, you know,
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: Rodney hit me. He's like, hey man, thank you for
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: not getting body's fired. I'm like, I was never gonna
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: get a fire. So we got on the phone and
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: the first thing I did was like, EO, Rodney, like
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: you're you're a mega producer. Like my comment about the
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: mixed quality. Is like, let me stop you, because you're
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: absolutely right the mix quality was bad. So I was
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: a little insulted. I'm like, here's a person who is
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: a professor, I think in literature or something like something
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: like that telling me a DJ, someone who listens to
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: audio every single day. Because I put out video and
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: audio every day. I got my headphones on listening to audio.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: I know what I'm talking about when I say the
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: audio qualities is a little bit off, and this person
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: who doesn't know anything about audio tells me to shut
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: the hell up because I'm White's so funny. I got
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: kind of consulting. I got kind of insulting. I'm sorry.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: I thought that was ridiculous. I thought that was ridiculous.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: But listen, I know Kendrick. We we've had conversations together,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Like I know TD, Like I know what I'm talking about.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is crazy coming from someone's got
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Princeton in their profile. But at the end of the day,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't want her to lose her job, so let
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: me just apologize for that part of what I said,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: and she didn't lose her job.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: That wasn't a societal issue, though there was no reason
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: to bring race into that.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a song.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 10: They not like us, right, So I.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: Just want to say this, like you see Kendrick doing
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: his like European tour, just a sea of white people,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: a sea of white people, exactly, a sea of white people,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: so they can't comment on it after they bought their.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 10: Tickets singing lyrics were for word.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: I just thought that was weird for her to bring
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: up a race when you were talking about sound quality,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: because people don't know your background, right, And I appreciate it.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: They don't know you, Yeah, I think you know.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: I just want to say, I appreciate you guys for
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: having my back on that. You guys, I really appreciate that,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: just honest.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: I was going to say, even if she knew your background,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 6: I think it goes to the thing we was talking
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 6: about earlier, like people just feeling like you shouldn't be
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 6: here just because of what they perceive you as because
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 6: of other stuff.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm here, so it is what it is. I'm here.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: Did the coachure bult your claims even bother you? No?
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: No, what are you thinking about?
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: Do you ever look at some white people say okay,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: well that is a coach of Boult, But I'm not that.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Well the dude with the black face, you know, the guy,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: the guy that did the g Herbo, the Freeman guy.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, if you got black face, you're a
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: culture vulture black people. But then you're doing black face,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: you know, behind the scenes, So that's disgusting.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: I did want to ask you what before you go,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: what did you think about?
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: And I listen list of just lists, but what did
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: you think about Adam twenty two not being in there
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: at all?
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: He should be on there? Yeah, absolutely, Like for example,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: like I would take Rory Mall off that list and
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: put out him on that list. Yeah, because when you
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: look at viral moments and so forth, Like I mean, god,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: like remember fourth of July four Extra getting his hand
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: blown off. How do we even know about four Extra
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: because a no Jumper. That's the only reason we know
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: about him. Like, he's had so many viral moments, you
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: know that.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: But who was four Extra?
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 7: You didn't see the video to die with the firework?
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: What did they have to do it?
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: Well, he's a no but he's a he's a personality
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: that was on No Jumper and then he lit a
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: firework and blew off his hand and I heard a
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: blue off half a guy's face. Also crazy.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: You know most of the big, the big un rolling
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: sixty old that.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: All that was jumper, Yes, jumper, Yeah, it was all like, yeah,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: brick Baby was a jumper. He was also you know,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: doing my show as well. Like, no, jumper definitely affects
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: the culture. So to leave him totally off the list,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: but you put Rory Mall on the list, This doesn't
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: make a lot of sense.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: I think Complex has to do a better and maybe
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: all of us gotta do a of defining. I guess
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: what is culture and what is determined what is considered
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: hip hop media? Because somebody, you know, hand going off
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: from a fire crack it on seem like hip hop
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: media and even the big U stuff and all of
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: that that's not hip hop. Well some of them guys
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: rappers though, yeah, okay.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean for extra as a song, he did
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: a song with Kevin Gates.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: I guess to me, when I look at it, and
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: I'm just I'm not even putting myself in comments.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: I look at like Gene Views.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 7: You're talking about real impact.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: No, Rob Markman, No, I'm not saying real impact, Like
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: definitely an impact. I'm talking about like the people who
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: actually comment on hip hop as we know.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: It, the music, the culture, Rob Markman, gena views, But.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: But Rob Markman, like what is last time something he's
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: done has gone really viral and has really affected the
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: culture like that, I haven't really seen content. I know
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: you could be consistent, but if you don't make an impact,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: you shouldn't be on that list. There's people that are
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: really good at what they do, but if you don't
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: get it out to the masters, if it's not really
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: picked up and it's not moving the needle, and you
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: can't be on that list.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 7: I think the definition then has to be impact.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 6: Because when I said that, because I know no Jumper
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: is like a part of the conversation, what I meant
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 6: is like you're talking about people who are like doing
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 6: like the rap list and the all that talk music.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: Like Max is a perfect person to be on there
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: because every time I see him, yeah he's rapping, he's
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: doing music, he's interviewing artists like that what I'm talking.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: But then they also mentioned coverage on the Diddy case. Right,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: it was somebody that did coverage on the did but
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: Lauren should have been on that list down. There was
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: nobody that covered more about that case, that did more interviews,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: that had stations and networks calling her about that.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 10: She was in every.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: Possible security team.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 8: But Lauren was in a court every day. I'm talking
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 8: about from the time they started to the time they ended.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 8: She was breaking it down. She was still keeping up
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 8: and man, kids was walking up on a flat.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 9: Man.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 10: It's like it was a lot going on. So she
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 10: should have been on.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: The Yeah, I mean, look like it's all it's all
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: a journey, you know, like some of the stuff that
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: you do will not always be recognized in the short
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: term and the long term if you stay consistent. Like, look,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: this is now seventeen years of just YouTube. Right before that,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: there was a few years of DVDs. Seventeen yeah, two
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: thousand and eight, two thousand and eight, that's when I
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: launched my channel to twenty twenty five, that's seventeen years
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: plus I was doing I was doing DVDs, which you were,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: you know, I was talking to you during that time.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: I was twenty years.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 6: YouTube became in two thousand and six, what SORRT When
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 6: did YouTube like start?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: YouTube started a little bit earlier, But in two thousand
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: and eight, that's when they introduced a partner program, which
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: I actually turned into a real business. So yeah, I
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: had videos on YouTube before them, but there was just
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: little promo videos, trailers or whatever else. But in two
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: thousand and eight, when you could actually start making money
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: with YouTube, that's when I just saw the vision. I
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: stopped DJing, I stopped doing DVDs, I stopped hustling on
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: the side. It was like, Okay, let me just do
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: this period and put all my energy into it, because this
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: is about to be the biggest video platform on earth.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: And I was right trying.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: To figure out when we first started doing interviews to
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: be like eight, right.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: About that time you wait or nine. Yeah, we were
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: already friends.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 7: A little bit later now, because I did.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: I got fired from Philly, and when.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 6: I got from I went, yeah exactly, which is crazy,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 6: glad because when I left my job, we talked somebody
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 6: from your team, or I thought, were you. We talked
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 6: a bit about me potentially coming over. You'd be having
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: like an I early for things.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: And I tried to well. Originally, I was born in
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: Ukraine in Kieva, was part of the uss HARD at
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: the time. I grew up in Massachusetts for a couple
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: of years, but I really spent most of my time
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: in the Bay Area, so I grew up in San Mateo,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: and then I went to school in UC Berkeley, so
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: I was in Berkeley, Oakland for about ten years. To
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: New York. L A.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: You know, well, we appreciate you for doing I do
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: know you're not aspired from the Ukraine.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: Charlotte made need to come back to black TV. I
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: hit him up the other day. I, Yo, it's been
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: three years since he did blat TV because I did
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Academics a couple of nights ago. He's like, Charlotte, not
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: rock with You're like, no, we're talking, but we just
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: haven't scheduled anything. And I did him up.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: When I told lad and I haven't told you I
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: wanted to do a whole I wanted all of us
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: to do it.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I said, do let us do it. But
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, it's been three years. I've done two
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: breakfast club appearances and a brilliant idiot appearance. His appearance
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, come on, I'm coming.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 8: I ain't coming unless I get that's coming.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 9: And my brother mall DJ Breakfast Morning. Thank you.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: Every day a week ago. Click your ass up the
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: I'm finished for y'all. Done,