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The Bolt Report | 26 November · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Is the gold perform it.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight the price of global warming policies. New South Wales
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  Speaker 2: warns people to use less electricity as the power system crumbles. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: climate activist Mountain Appeal, one of them you see crash
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  Speaker 2: their car in a way to protest against the coal
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  Speaker 2: that's right now keeping Sidney cool. Believable. Plot's a huge
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  Speaker 2: win for Donald Trump, plus a threat from him stop
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  Speaker 2: illegal immigration or I'll hit you with tariffs. Also tonight
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  Speaker 2: it is a record a nine minute long welcome to country.
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  Speaker 2: How unwelcome are these welcomes? Now? Meanwhile, in the real world,
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  Speaker 2: shocking statistics from inquiring to domestic violence against Aboriginal women.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know that one in one hundred people in
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  Speaker 2: the Northern Terra are now in jail, most Aboriginal and
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  Speaker 2: most of the family violence the finance of the coroner says,
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  Speaker 2: is worse than anywhere else. Isn't it time we talk
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  Speaker 2: less about white racism and a lot more about Aboriginal culture?
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  Speaker 2: But first I can now sadly confirm something I tipped
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  Speaker 2: months ago. The Albaniza government will call an election before
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  Speaker 2: the next budget is due in April. And this, of
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  Speaker 2: course is even more incompetent than I think, and maybe
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  Speaker 2: it is because the reason it must go earlier rather
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  Speaker 2: than later is because it is so incompetent. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: the albeniz A government is worse than even the wit
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  Speaker 2: On one. It is now totally lost control of our
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  Speaker 2: finances and would be mad to hand down another budget
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  Speaker 2: this side of the election and prove it. Yes, worse
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  Speaker 2: than Whitlams every bit is economically incompetent, but without the vision.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, everywhere you look now the Albanies government's economic
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  Speaker 2: record is in ruins. Even up today's terrible news. Most
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  Speaker 2: damning is that since it was elected two and a
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  Speaker 2: half years ago, Australs have got poorer, a lot poorer
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  Speaker 2: real disposable income of each household, that's income you are
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  Speaker 2: left to spend after taxes and inflation has fallen by
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  Speaker 2: nine percent. Astrainers have lost a tenth of the spending money,
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  Speaker 2: almost a tenth under albin Easy. That's worse than in
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  Speaker 2: the US or Europe. Now, this governor has tried to
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  Speaker 2: hide our economic decline by importing a record number of
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  Speaker 2: migrants more than a million net, and those extra workers,
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  Speaker 2: along with windfall prices for our minerals, helped treasure Jim Chalmers,
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  Speaker 2: maybe the only big boast is left two budget surpluses.
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  Speaker 3: The Albanese Labor government has delivered a second consecutive budget surplus.
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  Speaker 3: This is a powerful demonstration of our responsible economic management.
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  Speaker 2: But if budget surpluses prove who's great economic management there, Jim,
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  Speaker 2: then what's coming now must show economic mismanagement. Now the
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  Speaker 2: government has already in fact admitted in this last budget
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  Speaker 2: very quietly, that coming up now to ten years of
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  Speaker 2: budget deficits, it's just spending too much and crippling business
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  Speaker 2: with green tape, red tape, union friendly rules, the whole
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  Speaker 2: kerd boodle, and now it's all naturally hitting the fan.
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  Speaker 2: Delloyd Access Economics says, well, the wind prices, the windfall
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  Speaker 2: prices for our exports, they've gone, and the deficits the
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  Speaker 2: government predicted for the next four years are all going
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  Speaker 2: to be much worse over four years, twenty seven billion
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  Speaker 2: dollars worse, giving us the total deficit over four years
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  Speaker 2: of one hundred and forty nine billion. Now, what's more,
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  Speaker 2: this turnaround, just this financial year that we're now in
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  Speaker 2: is bigger than anyone seen. We've gone from a surplus
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  Speaker 2: last year to a deep, deep hole.
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  Speaker 4: This one that represents a forty nine point three billion
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  Speaker 4: dollar turnaround in the fiscal position, which is the largest
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  Speaker 4: turnaround in the underlying cash position when you exclude the pandemic.
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  Speaker 4: So that means Australia needs to do a lot more
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  Speaker 4: to prepare ourselves for the challenges that we currently face.
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  Speaker 2: That's incredible. So do you really think the government is
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  Speaker 2: going to hang on to hand down a budget in April,
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  Speaker 2: maybe even an early one in March. That's possible. A
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  Speaker 2: budget which would admit that it's now in the red
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  Speaker 2: big time. It's just had the worst budget turnaround you've seen.
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  Speaker 2: It would have to be mad. And then again maybe
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  Speaker 2: it is. I mean, I've worn months ago that Albany
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  Speaker 2: is his best maybe only hope was to call an
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  Speaker 2: election before Christmas, before things got even worse for him.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't, and now it has. He banked on being
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  Speaker 2: saved by a coven interest rates hasn't happened. People getting
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  Speaker 2: very angry. Poll NUMBERSI ski falling now even as precious
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  Speaker 2: surpluses are nose diving into a notion of debt. And
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  Speaker 2: what have we got to show for it? All? Worse
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  Speaker 2: than Whitlam as a shadow treasurer today pointed.
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  Speaker 5: Out after two and a half years of this Albanese
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  Speaker 5: labor government, Australians have seen their standard of living Paul
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  Speaker 5: off a cliff, the biggest reduction since records began in
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  Speaker 5: the fifties. We've been in a household recession for a
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  Speaker 5: record six consecutive quarters. This is worse for households than
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  Speaker 5: Keaty's recession we had to have and the disastrous Whitlam government.
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  Speaker 2: I think voters are waking up to just that. And
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  Speaker 2: so to Albanezi, I say three things, tick tick tick. Now.
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  Speaker 2: The Federal opposition did agree today to something stupid, to
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  Speaker 2: vote for the Abanzi government's bill to ban children under
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  Speaker 2: sixteen from going on social media sites like ex TikTok Facebook.
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  Speaker 2: You might say, but the ban is good, it'll stop
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  Speaker 2: kids from being bullied, helps parents. It might. It might,
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  Speaker 2: But even if you do think that, you can't say
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  Speaker 2: that the politicians voting for this have thought it through.
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  Speaker 2: It's impossible. Have they really checked properly where it will work?
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  Speaker 2: You know, whether it will work, whether there are dangers,
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  Speaker 2: whether there are safer ways to get the same results.
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  Speaker 2: Have they done any of that there's just no way
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  Speaker 2: they could know any of those things. And I'll tell
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  Speaker 2: you why. First thing, they've held only half a day
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  Speaker 2: of hearings to hear from twelve experts. There's just twelve
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  Speaker 2: experts just yesterday for just three or four hours. And
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  Speaker 2: in fact that a lot of the experts were against
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  Speaker 2: this wouldn't work, wasn't necessary. The government did also last
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  Speaker 2: week call for submissions from other people who might have
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  Speaker 2: better ideas. They've got about fifteen thousand of them just
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  Speaker 2: in the past few days. A single politician. You think
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  Speaker 2: there's voting for this ban this week, read even half
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  Speaker 2: those submissions, a third, a quarter, and read through all
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  Speaker 2: those experts evidence yesterday, that's impossible. Many are going to
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  Speaker 2: vote this week in total ignorance. And in fact I
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  Speaker 2: got to ask what was the point of the government
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  Speaker 2: asking for submissions that they clearly had no intention of reading.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that is a con I mean it's an
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  Speaker 2: insult to the people who wasted their time writing those
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  Speaker 2: submissions in good faith. Now I get it. Why a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people think these bands enforced by the social
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  Speaker 2: media giants are great. Are here? You know, serious concerns
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  Speaker 2: the children get bullied terribly on social media. Often I
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  Speaker 2: read by children at their school and they find out, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I've not been invoted to this party whatever. But I've
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  Speaker 2: got to say, is that bullying at school really going
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  Speaker 2: to stop? If you ban social media, the child will
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  Speaker 2: go to school and everything's happy. Now, some experts have said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, cut off to social media, and you might
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  Speaker 2: also cut off the very support the contacts that the
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  Speaker 2: young need. And what about you know, the children's right
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  Speaker 2: to information as human experts also asking. And then there's
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  Speaker 2: the identity checks that we all will now have to
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  Speaker 2: submit to prove our age and get onto social media.
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  Speaker 2: This really opens the door one day to government control,
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  Speaker 2: you know, China style. The president will be set, the
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  Speaker 2: technology will develop, maybe facial recognition to give on the internet.
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  Speaker 2: Can imagine where that's going to go now. The Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minise of both that this ban on children using social
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  Speaker 2: media as a world first? Is that because no other
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  Speaker 2: country is this done? And why did the Opposition decide
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  Speaker 2: this morning to go along with this despite the obvious problems.
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  Speaker 2: My guess pure politics, the opposition did not dare did
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  Speaker 2: not want to give Labor a policy difference that it
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  Speaker 2: could take to the election. Labour's going to save your children.
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  Speaker 2: The wicked opposition that coalition will not joining me is
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  Speaker 2: National Senator Mat Canavan, the former Resources Minister. Matt Canavan.
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  Speaker 2: Are you going to vote for this bill?
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  Speaker 6: No, I'm not, Andrew, at least unless there are major
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  Speaker 6: changes to it. But even then I share the concerns
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  Speaker 6: you've just expressed about the truncated process here. It is
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  Speaker 6: a we have treated the Australian people with contempt in
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  Speaker 6: the way we've gone about this this week. The Government
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  Speaker 6: released the bill on Thursday, just a few days ago.
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  Speaker 6: Submissions closed on the Friday, then we had that hearing
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  Speaker 6: yesterday and today the reports just out, although the parliament
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  Speaker 6: House website seems to be down a placed to separate
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  Speaker 6: link on my x feed for people wanting to read it.
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  Speaker 6: But it's just not good enough and there's a perhaps
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  Speaker 6: the most disheartening part of my role, Andrew, is the
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  Speaker 6: declining trust in the political process and in politicians. You know,
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  Speaker 6: you work your guts out in this job, you try
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  Speaker 6: and do your best to represent in my case, the
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  Speaker 6: state of Queensland, but a lot of people lose faith
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  Speaker 6: in the whole process and it's hard to disagree that
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  Speaker 6: with them after a week like this where we've just
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  Speaker 6: completely failed to involve the Australian people to give them
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  Speaker 6: an opportunity to comment on a really significant law that's
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  Speaker 6: going to affect everybody. You pointed out in your editorial
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  Speaker 6: that this is not just about children under sixteen. It
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  Speaker 6: has huge private privacy ramifications for all Australians. Potentially could
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  Speaker 6: lock some Australians out of their social media accounts, especially
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  Speaker 6: the elderly Australians. It may not be able to navigate
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  Speaker 6: the biometric or other information required to maintain your social
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  Speaker 6: media account in the future. There there's a whole host
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  Speaker 6: of questions that are just unanswered because we haven't had
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  Speaker 6: a proper inquiry process into this. If this is well leading,
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  Speaker 6: as the government says it's the government says it's well leading,
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  Speaker 6: well that's even more reason to do.
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  Speaker 1: A proper inquiry.
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  Speaker 6: Take a breath. Keep in mind, Andrew, one point. You
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  Speaker 6: just didn't meant to mention the bill if it is
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  Speaker 6: passed this week, which looks seems to be the intention
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  Speaker 6: of both major parties. If the bill is passed, it
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  Speaker 6: doesn't come into effect until twenty twenty six, so there's
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  Speaker 6: no rush.
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  Speaker 7: You know, we're.
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  Speaker 6: Rushing to get this done before Christmas, like we so
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  Speaker 6: we can tell everybody we're doing something. How good are
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  Speaker 6: we politicians. We've cracked down on these big tech companies.
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  Speaker 6: We've taught them a lesson. Nothing will change until twenty
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  Speaker 6: twenty six.
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  Speaker 2: So what is the rush.
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  Speaker 6: Why don't we pause to put this out to a proper,
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  Speaker 6: proper consultation and come back in the new year, come
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  Speaker 6: back after the election and get it done.
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  Speaker 2: And I've got to come back to the word you use,
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  Speaker 2: the contempt of the Australian people. You say we want
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  Speaker 2: to hear from you, you know in this one day
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  Speaker 2: come and gives you submissions. Fifteen thousand arrive. We're not
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  Speaker 2: going to read them, essentially, that's what they said. There's
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  Speaker 2: no way not even publishably read them.
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  Speaker 6: I was a subtle It's a total discs. I was
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  Speaker 6: up to two am last night writing my report which
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  Speaker 6: has just been published, and at the time of writing,
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  Speaker 6: just one hundred, just actually just under one hundred of
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  Speaker 6: those four to fifteen thousand submissions were published on the
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  Speaker 6: Apartment House website. But the staff here we also treat
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  Speaker 6: the staff in this Parliament House with contempt they've had
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  Speaker 6: to go through the ringer in the last few days
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  Speaker 6: because the demands placed on them by politicians. They've got
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  Speaker 6: a process. All these submissions got to go through a
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  Speaker 6: process before they're published. They just can't do it. They
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  Speaker 6: can't do it. And sometimes legislation is urgent. Sometimes there's
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  Speaker 6: an urgent need for things to happen, and we have
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  Speaker 6: to respond to that.
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  Speaker 1: But there's just no case for urgency here at all.
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  Speaker 6: This is just a recipe to make mistakes, to get
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  Speaker 6: things wrong, and possibly ultimately to put at risk the
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  Speaker 6: whole endeavor here, which has good intentions. And I completely
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  Speaker 6: accept that there are many harms associated with the use
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  Speaker 6: of social media young people. So I'm not against us
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  Speaker 6: booking at this possibly doing something about it.
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  Speaker 1: But we're going to really know you're.
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  Speaker 2: Saying, what is the road to help paved with? What
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  Speaker 2: is the road to help paved with? Exactly those good intentions?
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  Speaker 2: Just quickly, Matt. Some good news I can now reveal
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  Speaker 2: tonight One Nation leader Pauling Hans has raised enough money
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  Speaker 2: for legal expenses since she broke down on this show
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  Speaker 2: to talking about the outrageous federal court decision this month
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  Speaker 2: that rules had racially vilified Green Center, mirroring Farouki in
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  Speaker 2: the tweet criticizing her for attacking the Queen Ours after
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  Speaker 2: her death, telling Forruki, if she really didn't like it here,
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  Speaker 2: she could pee off back to Pakistan. Hans has now
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  Speaker 2: got the money to appeal, or at least the first
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  Speaker 2: stage of it, to appeal that ruling to the federal court.
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  Speaker 2: What is your hope here?
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  Speaker 1: I hope she wins.
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  Speaker 6: This is connected to some of the discussions we've had
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  Speaker 6: tonight in previous weeks. This is just another form of
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  Speaker 6: censorship in a way, a court enforced censorship, where which
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  Speaker 6: will chill debate. People won't be willing to say what
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  Speaker 6: they think in case they potentially face hundreds of thousand
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  Speaker 6: dollars worth of fine and legal costs. So I hope
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  Speaker 6: she wins good honor for being as courageous and brave
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  Speaker 6: as she is here. I saw the interview you did
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  Speaker 6: with her, and you couldn't come away from that but
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  Speaker 6: feeling sorry for what Paul and has had to go through.
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  Speaker 6: I'm glad so many strains are supporting her and, as
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  Speaker 6: I say, for the sake of free speech, for the
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  Speaker 6: sake of a strong, robust political democracy.
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  Speaker 1: I hope she wins.
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  Speaker 2: Macknavan well said, thank you so much for your time.
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  Speaker 2: I should say that Pauline Hansen has raised only enough
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  Speaker 2: money for step one in this challenge. She'll probably need
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  Speaker 2: a lot more to take it up to the High Court,
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  Speaker 2: so feel free to donate to her legal fund by
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  Speaker 2: going to the Pauling Hanson One Nation website and clicking
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  Speaker 2: on the action center button at the top. There's a
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  Speaker 2: possible breakthrough in the wars between Israel and the terrorist
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  Speaker 2: armies funded by Iran. Now Israel's cabin is reportedly voting
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  Speaker 2: in the next hours on a ceasfar A planned. The
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  Speaker 2: US and France have worked there with Hisbelah, that's the
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  Speaker 2: terrorist army in South Levan, and I should point out
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  Speaker 2: this truce or ceasefire, whatever it's going to be, is
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  Speaker 2: only with Hebela, not Hamas over in Gaza. I can
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  Speaker 2: understand why Hisbelo has had enough. It was firing thousands
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  Speaker 2: of rockets quite happily into Israel after their mass attack,
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  Speaker 2: initially on October seventh, and then Israel finally hit back hard,
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  Speaker 2: wiped out Hebelo's top leadership, all of them disabled or
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  Speaker 2: killed thousands of its fighters and destroyed most of its rockets.
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  Speaker 2: In the hours before this cabinet meeting, Israel was still
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  Speaker 2: stepping up the attacks on hisbelow targets, hitting a couple
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  Speaker 2: of dozen in just one hour. Joining me from Jerusalem's
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  Speaker 2: Mark Sofa, it was Israel's ambassador to Australia, Mark, Great
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  Speaker 2: to see you again. Thank you for your time. What
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  Speaker 2: are you expecting from this news of a ceasefire.
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  Speaker 8: Well, first of all, we should know that this is
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  Speaker 8: the least and in the Middleast. Nothing's over until it's over.
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  Speaker 8: And there's quite a lot of opposition to the proposed agreement,
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  Speaker 8: not only from the far right instantly, but also from
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  Speaker 8: people to the left of the government.
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  Speaker 9: But if it does go through, I think there.
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  Speaker 8: Are three perhaps major implications of the possible advantages now.
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  Speaker 8: But one of course has been discriminate bombing of israel
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  Speaker 8: Bia Chrisbala, which has been going on not only for
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  Speaker 8: the last year but well before. That will come to
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  Speaker 8: an end hopefully forever, although that's impossible to rely on
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  Speaker 8: on the Rispola and its Iranian funders and rockets and
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  Speaker 8: missile gillers. But on the other hand, more likely is
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  Speaker 8: that the over one hundred thousand Israelis who have been
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  Speaker 8: displaced over the past year because they're unable to live
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  Speaker 8: in what's left of their homes, will be able sooner
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  Speaker 8: or later to return to them, and I think that's
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  Speaker 8: a very important position. But there they are completely displaced
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  Speaker 8: in their own country. And thirdly, hopefully that Hamas now
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  Speaker 8: will be alone, it won't have His Bala on its
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  Speaker 8: back helping it, and so perhaps there'll be more induced
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  Speaker 8: to go for a hostage release or a hostage agreement
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  Speaker 8: release the one hundred and one hostages that still holding
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  Speaker 8: in the most terrible situation imaginable in the tunnels and
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  Speaker 8: of Gaza. So there is a lot going for in
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  Speaker 8: a cord and hopefully something good will come out of it.
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  Speaker 8: But there is no trust in Israel Chuzballah, and no
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  Speaker 8: trust for the Iranian fun pairs and all of the
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  Speaker 8: supporters of His Bala.
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  Speaker 9: So it's difficult to know what the future will bring.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Mark, you know, look, I know you're no friend
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  Speaker 2: of Israeli Prime Minister of Benjamine Yahu, but what do
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  Speaker 2: you think of the International Criminal Court issuing warrants for
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  Speaker 2: his arrest for alleged war crimes in Gaza? And with
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: our government, our labor government, not ruling out arresting him
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  Speaker 2: if he comes here. He's our foreign mins. A penny.
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  Speaker 10: One I have made clear many times in this place
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  Speaker 10: at all is the conflict must comply with international law,
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  Speaker 10: and I again say we respect the independence of the
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  Speaker 10: International Criminal Court and its important role in upholding international law.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Governor also banned your former justice mianster Alisha kid
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  Speaker 2: from coming here to give a talk. What's your response
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  Speaker 2: to all this.
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  Speaker 8: Well, the first part about Natania, as you say, Andrew,
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  Speaker 8: I'm not really a fan under any circumstances of Tao. However,
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  Speaker 8: the fact that no investigation whatsoever was made of the
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  Speaker 8: war by the ICC in the past year or more,
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  Speaker 8: it shows that this is clearly a political rather than
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  Speaker 8: a judicial decision. And moreover, President Bashar Assad of Egypt
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  Speaker 8: has killed over seven hundred thousands of his own people
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  Speaker 8: haven't been indicted. Neither have the Yemennight leaders who have
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  Speaker 8: starved fifty thousand and more children to death for a
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  Speaker 8: year for the past five or six years, or the
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  Speaker 8: leaders themselves haven't been indicted.
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  Speaker 9: So clearly this is a political decision.
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  Speaker 8: Even for those who are somewhat Ambhearmentally, I would say
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  Speaker 8: opposed to the leadership of prime instrument Aiao. We don't
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  Speaker 8: take this as a judicial decision, an impartial one. As
• 19:09
  Speaker 8: far as I elect Chakhead's the decision to not give
• 19:12
  Speaker 8: a visa to I electrack Head, I must say I'm
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: a little bit more than a little bit perplexed. I
• 19:17
  Speaker 8: wouldn't say I would say actually astounded. She is not
• 19:20
  Speaker 8: my cup of tea. I don't agree with much of
• 19:22
  Speaker 8: what she says, what she believes in. However, she certainly
• 19:26
  Speaker 8: is no rebel rouser, she's certainly no extremist. She certainly
• 19:30
  Speaker 8: Actually it's counterproductive in the sense that these are exactly
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: the sort of people that one should engage with, not
• 19:36
  Speaker 8: band and these are the type of people that can
• 19:39
  Speaker 8: be or may be able to be induced and convinced
• 19:43
  Speaker 8: that their position is not the correct position. And these
• 19:47
  Speaker 8: are the type of people that we need into the
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: dialogue with, not to boycotting of. So I don't really
• 19:54
  Speaker 8: understand the decision at all. It doesn't seem to make
• 19:57
  Speaker 8: any sense to me whatsoever. And I must say that
• 20:00
  Speaker 8: even one who is no fan of hers, like myself,
• 20:03
  Speaker 8: am totally and utterly perplexed.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: An Australian governans a response in theo's made two decisions
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: like that distance themselves from Israel at the UN and elsewhere.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: It's ugly, Mark, it's ugly. I'm afraid.
• 20:19
  Speaker 8: Well, I'd rather not get involved into Australia per se
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: and the political system there and situation there. But I
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: will say that on the two issues on the ICC,
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: I don't as a non supporter of Taniel, as I
• 20:32
  Speaker 8: said earlier, I am not in I see this as
• 20:35
  Speaker 8: nothing but a political decision by the ICC, not a
• 20:38
  Speaker 8: judicial one. And I have no understanding whatsoever or the
• 20:41
  Speaker 8: decision of why i yelecha ked suffused entry.
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: She is not even as she holds no public office.
• 20:47
  Speaker 9: She's not even.
• 20:48
  Speaker 8: She probably isn't known to ninety nine point nine percent
• 20:51
  Speaker 8: of the Australian public. She won't go around rousing a
• 20:55
  Speaker 8: public sentiment of any one form or another and not.
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: I just don't understand it completely, don't understand it.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Pure politics. Mark. I'm afraid that Mark Surfer is pure
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: politics and a very ugly shift that has dismade many
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: many Jews in Australia. Many have contacted me to say
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: they don't recognize this country anymore. Mark Sofer, thank you
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: so much indeed for your time after the break our
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: energy minutes there gives away billions in green schemes. But
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: in New Southwest today people are worn. Turn off your
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: air con. We're running out of power. We're getting closer
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: to running out of electricity because of our ridiculous global
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: warming policies. Above all, we're now week away from summer
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: and already the warning went out today in New South Wales. Oh,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: please switch off some of your appliance. As in Sydney's
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: through short of electricity.
• 21:50
  Speaker 11: The advice is always the same on really hot days,
• 21:53
  Speaker 11: do you really need to have every single light on
• 21:55
  Speaker 11: in the house?
• 21:56
  Speaker 9: Do you need to have your air conditioning?
• 21:58
  Speaker 11: You know, up a doubt at nine degrees you don't.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Some Sydney suburbs hit thirty seven degrees, which is warm,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: but it's not forty or forty five. But it was
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: enough to have Australia's energy market operators sweating.
• 22:12
  Speaker 12: We are experiencing some quite unseasonable hot weather here in
• 22:17
  Speaker 12: New South Wales today and effectively that is a summer
• 22:20
  Speaker 12: heat wave while we're still here in spring. That combined
• 22:24
  Speaker 12: with a number of major generation units that are on outage,
• 22:28
  Speaker 12: both due to planned and unplanned maintenance, is causing tightness
• 22:33
  Speaker 12: in electricity supply.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: We get away with you. Sydney's never had a thirty
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: five degree day just a week out from summer. I mean,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: come off it now. It's particularly shortages are going to
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: get worse, particularly in Victoria, which is no surprise. I mean,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: you know, we've got politicians and activists all over the
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: country declaring of war and fossil fuels, you know, coulfa
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: generators being replaced by stuff that doesn't even work as
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: well green stuff. So it's calmer really that this happens
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: to a city whose mayor has just given twenty two
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars to rising Tide activists who stage approacheses on
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Sunday to close coal exports at Newcastle Harbor. And this
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: money from the Sydney mayor is to help the poor
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: DearS pay their legal fees. Well, welcome to Sydney's sweaty future, guys.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: This is what you're arguing for. And how symbolic. This
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: has also happened just a couple of days after federal
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: energy and climate changements to Chris Bowen flew back from
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: the latest UNED Nations Climate conference in Baku, where he
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: promised to go in even greener. He also gave away
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: fifty million dollars of your money to Pacific islands with
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: climate change and help negotiate a deal where richer countries
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: like ours will give poorer ones like China and India
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: and Iran and Afghanistan four hundred and sixty billion dollars
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: a year. Yet still delegates at this conference complained it
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: wasn't enough.
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: We are extremely, extremely disappointed that this incident.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: But apart from handing over trainloads of our money, what
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: did that UN Climate conference actually achieve? Well? Tony Thomas,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: author and Financial journalsis done deep and written up the
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: results on Quadrant online and enjoys me now, Tony, always
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: great to see you. You've always got great stuff. What
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: did this Unclimate Conference actually achieve?
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: Well?
• 24:33
  Speaker 13: Well, the developing world only got a fifth of what
• 24:36
  Speaker 13: they wanted. They wanted one point three trillion dollars US
• 24:40
  Speaker 13: and as you say, they.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Got three hundred billion US.
• 24:44
  Speaker 13: Only They've been always asking for this money and it's
• 24:50
  Speaker 13: always being promised in some vague way, but.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: It ain't delivered very much.
• 24:55
  Speaker 13: The only important issue of whether the world can transition
• 24:59
  Speaker 13: from or fuels to renewaballs. This was sort of the
• 25:02
  Speaker 13: big pledge last year and the year before that, but
• 25:07
  Speaker 13: all they've done this year is kicked the issue down
• 25:09
  Speaker 13: the road to next year's conference in Brazil. So the
• 25:14
  Speaker 13: fact is that there is no transition. The shares of
• 25:18
  Speaker 13: fossil fuels are continuing to be around the eighty percent
• 25:22
  Speaker 13: or thereabouts, and nothing's happening on this transition.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: In plus countries that have tried, like Germany is suddenly
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: realizing they're going broke and deindustrializing and pulling back. So yeah,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: it really was just a big cash money grab. Can
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: you tell me how many strainers went to this farce
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: of a conference, Well, well.
• 25:41
  Speaker 13: The official list is published and plus the official lists guests,
• 25:45
  Speaker 13: so that amounted to something like four hundred, led by
• 25:49
  Speaker 13: Chris Bowen, and then Malcolm Turnbill showed up, and so
• 25:52
  Speaker 13: did Peter Melanorskis from South Australia. There was somebody from
• 25:56
  Speaker 13: the Trades Hall Council in Victoria, and there was get
• 25:59
  Speaker 13: up and then there was a huge unofficial crowd of
• 26:03
  Speaker 13: all the activists and academics and people like that. Well
• 26:07
  Speaker 13: they weren't allowed to play any serious part in the conference.
• 26:10
  Speaker 13: They were corrals or something called the green zone, and
• 26:13
  Speaker 13: they couldn't get into the blue zone, where all the
• 26:16
  Speaker 13: real action was.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: So that's the score there.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Now, some of the biggest delegations came from countries that
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't think they'd have the money for. Brazil sent
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: a massive one, and what a couple of African countries
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: that you'd think were, you know, sort of bustard did too.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: This surprises me because what you found is that what
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: they went to was a total ripoff paying were people
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: had to pay a fortune for a feed in a room.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
• 26:48
  Speaker 13: Well, well, of course the aziba Janis sent about twenty
• 26:52
  Speaker 13: two hundred. Brazil and Turkey sent two thousand each, and
• 26:56
  Speaker 13: so did the Abu Dhabi and China sent a thousand.
• 27:00
  Speaker 13: But the key thing, as you say, is these very
• 27:02
  Speaker 13: poor countries. I had to look at Burundi, which is
• 27:05
  Speaker 13: the second poorest country in the world, and they sent
• 27:07
  Speaker 13: two hundred, and the fourth poorest countries the Democratic Republic
• 27:12
  Speaker 13: of Congo, and they sent four or five hundred. And
• 27:16
  Speaker 13: they were all on fixed allowances basically, especially from the
• 27:20
  Speaker 13: UN and the hotel prices were such ripoffs that they
• 27:23
  Speaker 13: had nothing left for food, So they were wandering around
• 27:26
  Speaker 13: the conference half starving and having to live on cheese
• 27:29
  Speaker 13: and crackers at some of the events. And I did
• 27:33
  Speaker 13: notice one hotel, the best one called the Sharp Palace,
• 27:36
  Speaker 13: was charging eighteen thousand ossie dollars a night, and for
• 27:42
  Speaker 13: the fortnight they wanted three hundred thousand oussie dollars. Well,
• 27:47
  Speaker 13: these Africans were kicked out into the suburbs. They couldn't
• 27:51
  Speaker 13: afford the hotels. And they even created a directory of
• 27:56
  Speaker 13: where you could get free food during the events, so
• 27:59
  Speaker 13: that that would free cheese and crackers at this event.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: And so on. And I read in an African magazine
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: that there's.
• 28:07
  Speaker 13: A new type of lady called the food seductress, and
• 28:11
  Speaker 13: that cop they were deliberately going on dates with wealthy
• 28:14
  Speaker 13: Westerners solely so they could get a free meal. Then
• 28:18
  Speaker 13: they disappeared, and that's all documented in this African magazine.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Oh totally, Well, that sounds like a metaphor for the
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: whole conference, you know, looking for a rich Westerners to
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: give him a feed. I think that's the whole thing.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: That's your climate conference for you, Tony Thomas, Thank you
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: so much for your time. After the break, Donald Trump
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: has had a great note, a magnificent day, and he
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: started to threaten his neighbors as well. Help him for
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: more or suffer. Donald Trump is now large and already
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: in charge. I mean, what a change for starting in
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: the American media. You know now that has been elected presidents,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: some of the hysteria's gone. You know, always going to
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: be a dictator. This is as if his finally being
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: accepted as legitimate unluck in his first term, and maybe
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: is not that bad. You know, here's one sign a
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Cbus survey showing fifty nine percent of voters now like
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: the way that it's preparing to take over when it's
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: sworn in in January. In fact, Trump's in reality taking
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: over right now. Early today, he posted a warning on
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: social media. He'd heard that another caravan of illegal immigrants,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: about fifteen hundred was going through Mexico to the US borders.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: So he sent this ultimatum to Mexico and to Canada.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: He'll hit them both with a twenty five percent tariff
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: the day is sworn in at tariff on all their
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: products coming to the US and its ridiculous open borders.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: This tariff. He said, We'll stay until drugs, particularly fentanyl,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: and all thelelaliens stop this invasion of our country. You see,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Mexico and Canada could stop them. Joining me iss Sean Spiceer,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump's first spokesman in the White House when Trump
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: was first president, showing spice is great to see you again.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: So it starts the Donald Trump style.
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: Well, look, I will tell you first and foremost, the
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: afternoon of January twentieth, twenty twenty five, I would not
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: book anything else. It's going to be a very, very
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: busy day for America. Donald Trump's going to come into
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: office with Augusto. I think on a whole range of issues.
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: You know, you mentioned the tariffs. We've got some immigration issues.
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: There'll be some reversal of woke policies in the military
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: and throughout the government, I would imagine. But this is
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: going to be one day to remember in American history,
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: and I think it sends a signal to the rest
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: of the world. Obviously, he mentioned Mexico and Canada and
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: China that he means business this time and for different reasons. Obviously,
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: you know in this case he's using these tariffs really
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: not about manufacturing, but with respect to fetanol in our
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: immigration issues. So he means business. And you know the
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: thing that people forget. They get so hyperbolic every time
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: he threatens something. But he's a great negotiator and he
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: did it time and time again during his first term,
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: where he brings people to the table and unbeknownst to them,
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: he's getting, you know, eighty ninety percent of what he
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: wants when it all comes down to it.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Well, it's just extraordinary, Sean, You're absolutely right. These are
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: This is his negotiating style. Everything's on the table is
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: entirely transactional. You don't know which way he'll go, but
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: you better give him a deal. He also said today
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: he'd hit China with that extra ten percent tariff on
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: top of the existing ones. What's his game there?
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: Well, look, I think China's economy has softened since he
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: last left office, and they need the American market accent
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: for their economy to continue.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: To move along.
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: So he understands that, you know, anything like that will
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: threaten the Chinese economy, and so he's using it as
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: a carrot to get them to the marketing table when
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: it comes to how they're dealing with fentanyl manufacturing market
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: access on their end, But there's a lot that he's
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: bringing them to the table. Think about this, Joe Biden
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: had really no relationship with Shujiping. I mean they laughed
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: at Anthony blink in the first time that they met
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: with them in Alaska after Biden took office, And I
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: think he wants to come out of the gate very
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: very strong and make sure that they know that it's
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: a there's a new sheriff in town, as we like
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: to say.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's going to be a bit of a blow
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: for China given how weak its economy right now is.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: So I suspect he's got their attention very much. So
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: it's interesting to see Sean how much strong how much
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: supporters got. It's fairly strong. I mean, Trump's always a
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: polarizing figure. He got only, you know, listen, fifty one
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: percent of the vote, the popular vote, but he's got
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: pretty strong support in the polls now for how it's
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: preparing to take over in January. That is a real
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: change it is.
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: I mean, you look at this CBS poll that came
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: out within the last twenty four hours showing fifty seven
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: percent of Americans support mass deportation support the removal of
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: people in our country illegally.
• 33:22
  Speaker 9: That's going to give pause to a.
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: Lot of these work corporations that thought that they were
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: on the right side of the issues. And it's not
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: just the traditional Republican base. We're seeing the vast majority
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: of Hispanics, you know, young black men, young men, all
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: sorts of demographics are seeing because of Joe Biden's policies,
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: the impact of illegal immigration in communities far and wide
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: throughout this country. So I think Donald Trump's coming in
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: with a very strong mandate to re enact the rule
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: of law that our country is known for, to close
• 33:58
  Speaker 7: the border, to fight for a legal system of immigration.
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: And Andrew, that's the one thing that the media loves
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: to get wrong right. They love to talk about being
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: anti immigrant or clamping down. The bottom line is America
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: is a nation of immigrants. We welcome people in this country,
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: but you can't have as your first act coming to
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: America breaking the law. We have a system, we have
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: a process, and it needs to be followed. You don't
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: get to just come here because you want to come here.
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: We need to enact to make sure that the rule
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: of law is strong throughout this country, especially for people
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: who want to come into it as our guests.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Funny that, I mean, every one of his critics will
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: also have a rule that you come through the front door,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: not through the windows of their own home, and I
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: don't know why that doesn't apply to the country as well.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: His legal battles also, I mean, this is this is
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: a golden period Forum, Sean. It's incredible that you've now
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: got federal prosecutors have dropped two of we've talked about
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: this very high the political and suspect cases that they
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: had launched against Donald Trump, allegations that he tried to
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: steal the twenty twenty election, also that he illegally kept
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: top secret documents at home. They've given up these persecutions.
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: Why is that, Well, I think there's a couple reasons.
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: The first that they're using as their excuse is that
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: the Department of Justice in America has a long standing
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: policy that says that presidents in office can't be prosecuted,
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: and I think Jack Smith, the prosecutor in this case,
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: is recognizing that he's not going to make any kind
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: of progress before January twentieth of the substantive nature. The
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: second thing is, I think, you know as you alluded to, Andrew,
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: the bottom line is these cases were tenuous at best,
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: and I think recognizing the political wins and the vote
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: of the American people that wanted Donald Trump back in office,
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: that Jack Smith realized that he was fighting an uphill
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: battle on several fronts, both president and probably the law
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: as well.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Well. I think the bottom line is that these were
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: launched to stop him becoming president again. His president again failed.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Think of something else, Sean Spicer. These are amazing times
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: in America, and as you say, when he's inaugurated in January,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: watch out if he's starting already when he's not even
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: sworn in. Bye, goodness me. Thank you so much for
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: your time, Sean. Yeah.
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: Well, we're celebrating Thanksgiving this week and we have a
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: lot to be thankful for in this country, and I
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: appreciate you have me on every week.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Andrew.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: After the break. Is this the world's longest welcome to country?
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Joan Bell identifies as Aboriginal. Because of that, she was
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: invited to give a welcome to country on Sunday at
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: the nineteenth anniversary of the Anzack Memorial Citneyside Park. It
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: was an event for us all to remember Australi as
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: you died fighting for this country. But Belle spent no
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: fewer than nine minutes on this work into country.
• 37:01
  Speaker 10: I was invited to come and welcome you to my country.
• 37:06
  Speaker 9: You say this is my country, as again.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: With the worlder I have him rite, I am.
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: A crowd were rotary gated, a woman were ratory for
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  Speaker 5: my mom.
• 37:20
  Speaker 14: My mom was a very.
• 37:21
  Speaker 9: Proud to Radory lady.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Who lived on a mission.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: He lived there a great time until my grandfather was cold.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Pap, your family, pack them up and.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Go because the protection bar is coming to take the kids.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: So that's when he did. He went to pack the
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: living kids, his wife in more and sulky.
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: And they left.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: So you see my blood line and is even so
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: we're not going anywhere, he said.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: They moved them out because the prominent.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: People of the day are the times you like to
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: see the backs on around, so they will.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Move the mo to see in the breeze.
• 38:10
  Speaker 10: And then because you listen to the breeze, because the breeze,
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  Speaker 10: for heaven's.
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  Speaker 2: Sake, why was there even a person identifying the Aboriginal
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: doing a welcome to a memorial built for us all
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  Speaker 2: who is helped by any of this nonsense. But this
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: is part of a wider move to elevate and admire
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  Speaker 2: Aboriginal culture, training on the white guilt that's now fashionable.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, though, that idea of Aboriginal culture must
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: instead be challenged. I'll give you a shocking example of
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: just why. At a warning you may find some details disturbing.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Yes that I currently Elizabeth Armitage handed down her findings
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: after acquiring to domestic violence in which in the Northern Territory,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: in which she looked at the deaths of eighty seven
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: women in all since to thousand, most of them vast
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: majority of Aboriginal. She describes a hell.
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  Speaker 14: Not only is the violence more relentless in the territory,
• 39:09
  Speaker 14: it is more vicious, more weapons are used, and the
• 39:13
  Speaker 14: injuries inflicted on victims resulting high rates of hospitalization.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: There is something in the Northern Territory that is disturbingly different.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: There is this astonishing statistic about one in one hundred
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: people there are in jail, three times worse than anywhere else.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: The great majority, of course Aboriginal activists and say the
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: justice system is racist, free these poor men. Except this
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: coroner points out that two thirds of the people in
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: jail hurt their partner or some other family member, which means,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: of course you free them, you put their families in danger.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: And the coroner had an example. A man killed his
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: latest partner.
• 39:51
  Speaker 14: He was three years older than she was and had
• 39:54
  Speaker 14: a long history of alcohol abuse and criminal offending, including
• 39:58
  Speaker 14: shocking violence against women. Over a twenty five year period
• 40:03
  Speaker 14: from nineteen ninety three, he spent twenty years in jail,
• 40:07
  Speaker 14: including for killing a woman in nineteen ninety six, causing
• 40:11
  Speaker 14: serious harm to a previous partner when he stabbed her
• 40:14
  Speaker 14: four times with a knife, an assault with bolt cutters
• 40:17
  Speaker 14: on his sister in law, and the stabbing of another
• 40:20
  Speaker 14: female partner.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Now the question has to be asked, this is something
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: specific to the culture of these perpetrators where you get
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: such devastatingly violent results. Almost nobody has mentioned it, No
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: one dares. It's a fact, legally dangerous for me to
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: even suggest that. Under our laws. The only reference to
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: culture of scene is in one story in one ABC report,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: surprisingly quoting an Aboriginal victim of domestic violence saying Annie
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: fears violence is becoming normalized and says the cultural shame
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: of speaking out or getting the law involved can make
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: it harder for women like her to be upfront. Imagine
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: cultural shame in speaking out against this bashing of women.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: But otherwise there was nothing not in the other reports
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: that I read, like this in the ABC saying this,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: The Coronial Inquest uncovered evidence of systemic fails within police, corrections,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: government and social services. Yeah, it's all, you know, society's fault.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: It's not any aspects of the perpetrator's culture. There's nothing
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: about the folly of keeping people in bush camps where
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: there's no work. Now. The Federal Indigenous Transminister also today
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: demanded changes to the colonial system, not to any aspect
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: of Aboriginal culture.
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: The system isn't changing.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: And the same with the current. Herself, in a summing up,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: didn't discuss any cultural problems, just had the usual recommendations
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: that the system changed, you know, more bureaucrats, she recommended
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: more peak organizations, recommended more training, more shelters, but no
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: real changes at all. As she's essentially admitted.
• 42:00
  Speaker 14: Made thirty five recommendations, and I don't think any of
• 42:03
  Speaker 14: them are radical.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: None of them are new, not radical, not new. So
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: you can bank on it. The horrors today will be
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: repeated and repeated until someone finally wakes up and asks
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: or is heard, why is domestic violence so horrific and
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Aboriginal community is way out in the Northern Territory, say,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: but nothing at all near that level among averages living
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: assimilated in our towns and our cities. Until we make
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: that connection and give more welcomes into mainstream Australia, many
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: more Aboriginal women will die. Joining is the panel. Will
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Kingston hosts of Far at Will, a podcast from the
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Spectator and Politics and Culture and Scouring his host Janika
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: di Georgia of Deneka and James every Sunday here at
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: eight pm. Will I have learned the argument of put,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: and have put since the Bonnie Robinson Report into Aboriginal
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: domestic violence twenty five years ago said much the same
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: stuff is now so legally dangerous that I don't dare
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: ask you to give your opinions about legal checking. That's
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: one reason I'm going to be glad to retire. But
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: let me at least ask you about that Welcome to
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Country nine minutes long, repeating the Stolen generation. So more
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: to say about that particular story tomorrow. That's a welcome
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: to country that overstayed. It's welcome like most of them,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: isn't it?
• 43:25
  Speaker 15: Well, of course it is, Andrew. And what I just
• 43:28
  Speaker 15: failed to understand is as the winds of change have
• 43:33
  Speaker 15: started to blow with this sort of virtue signaling nonsense
• 43:36
  Speaker 15: that these activists haven't picked up on that that they
• 43:39
  Speaker 15: haven't picked up that this stuff is so incredibly counterproductive,
• 43:43
  Speaker 15: most of the people at that memorial service, admittedly underbated breath,
• 43:48
  Speaker 15: would have been going, this isn't quite right, is it. Similarly,
• 43:52
  Speaker 15: in a separate related field, you look at this stupid
• 43:55
  Speaker 15: odd that jag you're put out the other day, and
• 43:57
  Speaker 15: you recognize that that does immense hurt to say trans
• 44:01
  Speaker 15: or gay gay rights, because it delegitimizes, it makes it
• 44:05
  Speaker 15: look silly. All of these virtue signaling issues across the
• 44:08
  Speaker 15: full gamut of identity politics are not helping their causes,
• 44:12
  Speaker 15: and it makes you wonder, why why are we still
• 44:14
  Speaker 15: doing these welcomes to country, why are we still doing
• 44:16
  Speaker 15: work ads? And the answer is a because these people
• 44:20
  Speaker 15: are so disconnected from the people that they claim to
• 44:23
  Speaker 15: be trying to persuade that they don't understand that this
• 44:27
  Speaker 15: isn't working. But b incredibly, I don't think they care.
• 44:31
  Speaker 15: It's not about persuading, it's not about reconciliation, it's not
• 44:35
  Speaker 15: about bringing us together. It's about moral lecturing to make
• 44:39
  Speaker 15: them feel superior. That's the crux of it. And if
• 44:42
  Speaker 15: we want to actually get to true reconciliation, whatever that means,
• 44:45
  Speaker 15: when it's stopped with the virtue signaling woke nonsense and
• 44:48
  Speaker 15: focus on real issues, that will solve some of the
• 44:50
  Speaker 15: awful problems that you mentioned in your introduction.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: But that's going to require a lot more free speech
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: and Anika, here's something that really struck me yesterday in
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: the discussion. It's really come again with force. The more
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: disconnected the cultural lead to our forcing things that welcome
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: to countries, hon us, people getting mutinous, and that's exactly
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: why we're getting so many more calls for controls on
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: our free speech. Victoria's now got oh, we're going to
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: have even tougher hate laws, for instance, hate speech laws,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: hate speech. This is the nexus, isn't it lead out
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: of touch people rebelled, start to protest laws to stop them.
• 45:28
  Speaker 11: Absolutely, And this is what the left do every time
• 45:31
  Speaker 11: that they're challenged, Andrew. But it's a very dangerous place
• 45:33
  Speaker 11: to be in because what it's doing is creating an
• 45:36
  Speaker 11: US versus them mentality and anyone who dares to challenge
• 45:41
  Speaker 11: the left's narrative. And the left do this, by the way,
• 45:43
  Speaker 11: to make themselves feel better. It's a real vibe for them.
• 45:46
  Speaker 11: But anyone who dares to challenge it, suddenly you're deemed
• 45:50
  Speaker 11: a racist. That's always the left's fall back option. We
• 45:54
  Speaker 11: saw it during the Voice campaign when it was overwhelmingly
• 45:58
  Speaker 11: rejected by Australia. The left came out and said, oh, well,
• 46:01
  Speaker 11: that's because the majority of Australians are racist. We've got
• 46:04
  Speaker 11: a racist culture which just couldn't be far so far
• 46:08
  Speaker 11: from the truth. But in this nine minute welcomed to country,
• 46:11
  Speaker 11: I have to say, you know, it was done at
• 46:14
  Speaker 11: a war memorial, a place where we remember those who
• 46:17
  Speaker 11: fought for us and continue to do so. I just
• 46:20
  Speaker 11: wonder how many of them would want to be welcomed
• 46:22
  Speaker 11: to the country in which they fought for and continue
• 46:26
  Speaker 11: to do so. But unless we start actually pushing back
• 46:29
  Speaker 11: against this, and it's going to take woke corporations to
• 46:31
  Speaker 11: stop this virtue signaling nonsense, to say enough is enough,
• 46:35
  Speaker 11: we all just sit there and we have to be
• 46:37
  Speaker 11: polite about it. It's just it's getting ridiculous.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: They've been welcomed to a patch of the country devoted
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: to a memorial to recognize those who died for us,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: all which would include some of their friends and relatives,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: and they've got to be welcome to that. I mean,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: I find that just that's just so spectacularly stupid. By
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: the way, it will lighten it up, will I wonder
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: how generous you are feeling, because I mentioned last night
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: that protests against coal and other fossil fuels of the
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Port of Newcastle on Sunday where the Green silea down
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: and band of course made a fool of himself wearing
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: and holding and sitting in all sorts of this stuff
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: made from fossil fuels, made from all bar There's now
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: an appeal for ten thousand dollars to help some students
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: who were driving an uninsured car to the protest and
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: wrote it off in an accident. How much money can
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: they expect from you?
• 47:33
  Speaker 15: Not a great deal, Andrew, But in a weird perverse way,
• 47:37
  Speaker 15: I admire this because I'm sure there are enough woke
• 47:40
  Speaker 15: midwites out there who will no doubt probably cover the
• 47:43
  Speaker 15: costs of this. It's on a strange way. This is
• 47:45
  Speaker 15: a glorious scam capitalizing on the on the idiocy of
• 47:51
  Speaker 15: work nutters and work nutters out there.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting. You're right, they've nearly raised the ten
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars or any got on. Clover Moore says, City
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: of Sydney is going to donate. I mean, this is
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: such a scandal to it's just going to donate twenty
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: two thousand dollars the Rising Tide, like I said earlier,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: to help me cover the costs of the one hundred
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: and seventy people that were arrested at the Port of
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Newcastle protests. No strings attached to this, Thaneka.
• 48:22
  Speaker 11: No strengths and no strings attached. All I can say,
• 48:24
  Speaker 11: Andrew is that the City of Sydney ratepay has had
• 48:26
  Speaker 11: an opportunity a couple of months ago to boot this
• 48:29
  Speaker 11: woman out. They didn't, so they voted for this activist
• 48:31
  Speaker 11: who's preoccupied with handing twenty two thousand dollars to these idiots.
• 48:35
  Speaker 11: So you know, you get for what you vote for, right, Oh.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: My goodness, including now a sweaty Sydney. Don't use your
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: air Condanika, you're looking far too cool over there. Thank
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: you so much to you both, Denika, Deneka and will Kingston,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: thank you very much. That's it from me coming up
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: next to this Sherry Markson. Good night,