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PODCAST: Coaches Latest Praise Has Sooners Fans HYPED! | Oklahoma Rooms to Watch (S3 E23) · Sooner or Later Sports

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Speaker 1: We are Kip Lewis days away from Oklahoma football, so
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Speaker 1: that's Coop. I'm Jay. Thanks for pulling up here on
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Speaker 1: on today's episode of the Sooner or Later Sports Show,
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Speaker 1: We've got some fun things to dive into, like which
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Speaker 1: freshman to keep your eyes on. We've got a couple
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Speaker 1: of guys we think are gonna break out. We're also
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Speaker 1: gonna do some rooms to watch. We're gonna walk through
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Speaker 1: some on offense as well as on defense, and then
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Speaker 1: we'll probably wrap things up just you know, rambling like
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Speaker 1: we always do, but having a good time, So Coop,
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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday, my guy. How are you feeling today?
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Speaker 2: Man? Feeling pretty good?
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Speaker 3: Like you said, ten days away, it feels it feels
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Speaker 3: like it's still one hundred and eleventy billion days away,
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Speaker 3: but we're getting closer. I already got the notification popped
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Speaker 3: up for Kansas State Iowa State for Saturday, and so
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Speaker 3: you know, just put it right in, put it right in.
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Speaker 3: You know, it's the preseason NFL drama. It doesn't it
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Speaker 3: doesn't satiate the palette. I like an actual game because,
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Speaker 3: you know what, I really don't care if Daniel Jones
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Speaker 3: is starting over Anthony Richardson. You know, I just I
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Speaker 3: just want to see some I just want to see
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Speaker 3: some football, some college football.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. There's one thing I don't care about is that
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Speaker 1: whole Daniel Jones situation in the NFL. Like I really
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Speaker 1: just I'm just keeping that a book. I really do
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Speaker 1: not care. And it's I mean, it's no shade to him,
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Speaker 1: it's three. I just don't care. It's not one of
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Speaker 1: those that I really want to hear about. But we
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Speaker 1: got a lot of things to dive into. Man, this
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Speaker 1: is pre recorded just for y'all, So that's why you
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Speaker 1: don't see the live chat on the screen. We're probably
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Speaker 1: gonna do more pre recorded week weekday shows for you all,
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Speaker 1: especially as the season comes along. It'll make it a
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Speaker 1: lot easier because I know schedules in the evening, it's fall,
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Speaker 1: you know, Coop's got young kids, and he's got all
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Speaker 1: kinds of activities populating, and I travel quite often. But
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Speaker 1: the good thing is is it seems like I get
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Speaker 1: lucky where I'll get moments early in the morning where
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Speaker 1: we can go ahead and knock something out. We may
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Speaker 1: even knock stuff out before we get to work, but
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Speaker 1: we'll have some stuff to talk about throughout all of this.
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Speaker 1: But first and foremost, Coop, one of the big things
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Speaker 1: that of course is populating here in the internet sphere
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Speaker 1: is the freshman to really keep our eyes on. We've
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Speaker 1: kind of talked about this slightly ourselves, and I want
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Speaker 1: to dive into who do you feel like our true
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Speaker 1: freshmen that Oklahoma has that we think are going to
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Speaker 1: jump out? Because we've been hearing the reports. There's names
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Speaker 1: that have been talked about. There are people that people
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Speaker 1: care about. But the question really is who do we
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Speaker 1: think is gonna be ones to jump out. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: let you lead.
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Speaker 3: The way, Yeah, Jay, I think that it all starts
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Speaker 3: with where does someone need to jump out? You know,
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Speaker 3: it's going to be a little bit of a tougher
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Speaker 3: task for a freshman to hop in on the defensive
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Speaker 3: line this year. Just because you've got such a solid
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Speaker 3: grouping doesn't mean that who we have there isn't going
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Speaker 3: to be a dude and is it going to get
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Speaker 3: some run. But I would probably start with one of
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Speaker 3: the most exciting and I just can't get the dunk
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Speaker 3: out of my head. But that's the freshman wide receiver,
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Speaker 3: Chakota Elijah Thomas. We know the well documented wide receiver
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Speaker 3: issues last year, but this is a guy who you know,
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Speaker 3: a lot of people say if he would have been
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Speaker 3: playing even up in Tulsa or if he had been
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Speaker 3: playing in Dallas, he's probably a five star wide receiver
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Speaker 3: and a little bit more bally hood. But you know,
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Speaker 3: with his body at the six to one ish, you know,
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Speaker 3: approaching two hundred pounds, the.
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Speaker 2: Guy just moves, you know, in a way that.
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Speaker 3: You know most guys don't that young. He's got a
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Speaker 3: great football IQ. He can high point the ball, he
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Speaker 3: knows how to break coverages. And so for a room
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Speaker 3: for the wide receivers that you know, we're looking this
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Speaker 3: year kind of how we were going into the you know,
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Speaker 3: twenty three season, who's going to be that wide receiver,
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Speaker 3: Who's going to be that guy that steps up? And
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Speaker 3: I do think that we've got some state elder statesman
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Speaker 3: in that room that's going to allow him.
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Speaker 2: To the older statesman, able.
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Speaker 3: To get to be able to like, you know, not
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Speaker 3: have a ton of pressure on him. But he's a
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Speaker 3: guy who when you give him an opportunity, and the
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Speaker 3: coaches are gonna look for it, and the Jones gonna
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Speaker 3: look for it.
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Speaker 2: Ben Arbuckle's gonna look for it. But when you give.
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Speaker 3: Elijah Thomas an opportunity, dude's going to shine when it's
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Speaker 3: his turn and when it's when it is his turn.
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Speaker 3: So uh, really really excited about Elijah Thomas.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm with you there, and that's the name
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Speaker 1: we're hearing a lot of. Actually, Emmitt Jones talked about him,
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Speaker 1: what the other day, maybe a day ago. He was
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Speaker 1: talking to the media and was saying, oh the he
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Speaker 1: he I guess trained with Elik Major Elite Neighbors and
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Speaker 1: he thinks that he could be the next one. And
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Speaker 1: Neighbors was freaking electric over there at LSU and he
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Speaker 1: did very well in the NFL. So I'm I could
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Speaker 1: totally see that comparison, and I mean, I think it was. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Emma Jones even mentioned about Kentes Lewis's potential Ceedee Lamb capabilities.
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Speaker 1: Me and John kind of talked about that as well
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Speaker 1: not too long ago. Uh, And I like to put
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Speaker 1: people on Pauls when it comes to that comparison, and hey,
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Speaker 1: you might got a little too much dip on your
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Speaker 1: chip when you say that, Cuz you could just show
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Speaker 1: the Texas highlights of Ceedee Lamb and be like, that's it,
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Speaker 1: and from there you can be like, oh no, that
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Speaker 1: DoD was a leak. You can show two games. Actually
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Speaker 1: that one is that one game. I think he did
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Speaker 1: it all in one game, didn't he where he missed
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Speaker 1: all those tackles for the first touchdown and then on
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Speaker 1: the other side, I feel did the same thing. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's that's talent. And he did He was doing this
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Speaker 1: stuff as a freshman too, So I think there's a
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Speaker 1: little bit more, a little too much dip there on
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Speaker 1: set chip. But I do agree Elijah Thomas is the
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Speaker 1: one that I think they're gonna find a way to
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Speaker 1: get on the field. He's one that they're gonna have
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Speaker 1: almost no choice. One that we have not heard anything on.
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Speaker 1: But I think because of the circumstances surrounding the room
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Speaker 1: that I'm still beating the drum on Trenee Washington. He
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Speaker 1: came in and with like two thirty something and he's
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Speaker 1: jumped up to over two hundred and forty. I think, oh,
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Speaker 1: think he's like two forty eight. Almost a super man.
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Speaker 1: I mean, think about that true freshman comes in in
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Speaker 1: the spring two thirty three, maybe played you know, multiple
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Speaker 1: positions at Carl Albert. But then he bokes up that
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Speaker 1: quickly like I don't think it was a balloon up
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Speaker 1: of fat. I think he boked up in training and
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Speaker 1: imagine him being big enough, strong enough, and he shows
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Speaker 1: really good jobs with with with route running and everything
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Speaker 1: in precision that he ends up pushing his way up
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Speaker 1: into the depth chart. I am intrigued on Treney Washington.
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Speaker 1: Like I said, I have not heard much about him,
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Speaker 1: Like he's probably been the quietest player, uh out of
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Speaker 1: the freshman that I'm really really really intrigued to see
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Speaker 1: what he could turn into. But I know that he
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Speaker 1: was at spring media he talking, he looked bigger, Just
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Speaker 1: just to know that that if if he turns into something,
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Speaker 1: don't be shocked. So defensive side of the ball, I'll
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Speaker 1: lead us here. The I mean of course, the name
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Speaker 1: that everyone keeps talking about is Courtland Guillory. And when
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Speaker 1: Javeli talked about him yesterday at the post practice media day,
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Speaker 1: the big thing that he was saying about Courtland is
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Speaker 1: and and Courtland said himself, you know he needs to learn,
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Speaker 1: you know, playing zone. But Courtland is the dude that
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Speaker 1: you say, hey, go guard this guy. He ain't flinching.
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Speaker 1: He's one that says, coach, give me this guy. I
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Speaker 1: want Dion Burks, give me Elijah Thomas. You know he's
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Speaker 1: a freshman. I don't even want to go against a freshman.
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Speaker 1: Give me Isaiah Setana. He's the one that has no flinch.
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Speaker 1: And when the lie was saying that, I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 1: we do have a dog. We knew he had a dog.
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Speaker 1: But koop, if Courtland Guilery walks out there and starts
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Speaker 1: snatching chains, man, we may be in We made other
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Speaker 1: teams maybe in trouble. We may have actually fixed the
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Speaker 1: glitch that we had in the secondary.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I will say this because last year, a
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Speaker 3: lot of the guys opposite Eli. You put Eli out there,
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Speaker 3: and Eli did his job, and he did it well.
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Speaker 3: Gentry spent the year injured and so you had to
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Speaker 3: turn into guys like can I Walker and des Malone
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Speaker 3: and Woody Washington, and the big gap here is a
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Speaker 3: lot of those guys had the football IQ, but the
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Speaker 3: speed just wasn't there. You know, a lot of them
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Speaker 3: had the bigger bodies, but again the speed wasn't there.
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Speaker 3: So when you're running crossers or if you're you know,
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Speaker 3: if you're having to cover a decent amount of space
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Speaker 3: in a zone coverage, you're running a four to seven
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Speaker 3: and wide receiver a over here's running a four to four.
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Speaker 3: The longer you got to cover him, the bigger that
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Speaker 3: gap is going to make a difference. And so Guillory
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Speaker 3: is a guy who, like you said, you could go
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Speaker 3: up to him and say, hey, listen, cam Coleman, this
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Speaker 3: is this is a guy you need to go out
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Speaker 3: there and you need to cover him. And if you
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Speaker 3: go back into the you know, some of the best
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Speaker 3: corners you know in the league in the NFL, these
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Speaker 3: guys go one play at a time and at that
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Speaker 3: play they know that they are the best player on
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Speaker 3: that play.
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Speaker 2: And you see that from Courtland Guillery.
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Speaker 3: You see him being able to not only take it
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Speaker 3: from a mental aspect, but his body composition. You know,
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Speaker 3: he's not a super super slight guy. Now, he's not
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Speaker 3: the tallest dude in the world. But at the same time,
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Speaker 3: there is a big He was a big recruit. You know,
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Speaker 3: we were going up against the likes of A and
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Speaker 3: M for him, and you know he when he chose
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Speaker 3: ou I mentioned it on our live that PG was,
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Speaker 3: you know, ecstatic about this, and so yeah, the more
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Speaker 3: and more he starts coming in, you start hearing more
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Speaker 3: about him.
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Speaker 2: That The happy news Jay.
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Speaker 3: Is He's got some guys in front of him also
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Speaker 3: that are also balling out in camp. You know, de
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Speaker 3: Vaughn Jordan. You know, you've got Eli, You've got Gentry,
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Speaker 3: You've got Dolby, you still have new Clem and Jacoby.
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Speaker 3: But you're going to have to you know, when you
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Speaker 3: get the snaps that you're going to get, you're going
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Speaker 3: to have to shine in said snaps because that's where
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Speaker 3: Javeli is going to put you in, you know, put
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Speaker 3: you in and trust you in some of these bigger experiences,
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Speaker 3: because you know, it's not like being in the running
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Speaker 3: back chart, you know, and you hit the whole wrong
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Speaker 3: and gain three yards instead of seven. You know, if
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Speaker 3: you don't have the right coverage on you know, as
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Speaker 3: a defensive back, I mean you might be given up
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Speaker 3: six and so so you can't you can't make those mistakes.
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Speaker 3: And in a league to where you know the in
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Speaker 3: conference points per game in the SEC on offense offensive,
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Speaker 3: you know, points per game, every single team has a
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Speaker 3: couple of hiccups where they scored seventeen or less in
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Speaker 3: conference and you can't give up a six point deal
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Speaker 3: a touchdown because of an oops.
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Speaker 2: And you're going to have.
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Speaker 3: To very, very very minimize those mistakes because I think
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Speaker 3: in conference offensive points per game, I think the top
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Speaker 3: was right in twenty nine points. So I mean this
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Speaker 3: is a conference for every single week, You're going to
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Speaker 3: have a battle.
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Speaker 2: But I think Guillory is up to task.
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Speaker 1: I think he is too. I agree with you on
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Speaker 1: that one. Who else on defense freshman wise, do you
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Speaker 1: think is a name that probably more under the radar
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Speaker 1: that could be someone that causes that could be you know,
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Speaker 1: could rumble up and be someone that could be a
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Speaker 1: potential threat.
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to our neighboring state by a dude
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Speaker 3: they call man man Omarian Robinson, And this one may
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Speaker 3: make people go, oh, I'm not so sure.
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Speaker 2: That safety room is stacked. The safety room is stacked.
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Speaker 3: And you know, you've got Robert Spears Jennings, You've got
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Speaker 3: Peyton Bowen, You've got Reggie Powers, who has been the
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Speaker 3: talk of the entire camp.
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Speaker 2: You got Hardy out there too.
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Speaker 3: But man Man makes plays when he's out on the field,
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Speaker 3: and if it's going to be at the end of
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Speaker 3: you know, in Illinois State or at the end of
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Speaker 3: Kent State Temple, stuff like that, when he gets out there,
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Speaker 3: he's going to produce and do amazing things. And that's
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Speaker 3: going to make the coaches a little bit more willing
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Speaker 3: to put him in earlier in a game in crucial situations.
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Speaker 3: You saw it last year with you know how they
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Speaker 3: started rotating some of the bodies in Danny Stutsman, Billy Bowman,
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Speaker 3: not in on super high pressure moments, you know, on
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Speaker 3: the road at Auburn, you know, against Tennessee, against Ole Miss.
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Speaker 3: You start rolling in some of these new bodies because
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Speaker 3: you want to see what do we have while we're
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Speaker 3: in fire. And I think main Man is a guy
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Speaker 3: who people continue to look at and they both Wimberley
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Speaker 3: and our guys out of Arkansas. That's a lot of
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Speaker 3: folks wanted, and so I think that he's one that's
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Speaker 3: kind of flying underneath the radar, especially with how strong
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Speaker 3: that safety room is. And and Jay, just I mean
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Speaker 3: circle back ten years ago and we're like.
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Speaker 2: Can we have a safety? Can we get one safety?
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Speaker 3: And now we've got like six guys who you or
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Speaker 3: would be excited to see out on the field, you know,
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Speaker 3: including a Michael Boganowski.
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Speaker 1: Right, you got yeah, you roughly have six dudes that
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Speaker 1: you trust. Yes, you have no fear in hitting the field.
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Speaker 1: That is very good point because man, the big three
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Speaker 1: we got last year ridiculous, still got Peyton Bowen, you know,
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Speaker 1: the five star who should have his breakout year this year,
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Speaker 1: and we're expecting to see a lot of hardy Boganowskie
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Speaker 1: as well as powers. So yet as stacked as that
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Speaker 1: room is, the question is gonna be how does he
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Speaker 1: power man and man power's way in there. But you're right,
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Speaker 1: you know, you know, we don't know what how everything
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Speaker 1: shapes out year two for some of these guys. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: there's a chance that he couldn't find his way on
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Speaker 1: the field a little earlier than expected. I think that's
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Speaker 1: probably the harder one in my opinion, just because of
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Speaker 1: how much we love the victory that came through. So
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15:29
Speaker 1: rooms to watch as we prepare for our depth chart.
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Speaker 1: We'll give our depth chart prediction on Sunday. The official
15:37
Speaker 1: one should come down Monday at Brent Vinnable's presser. I
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Speaker 1: think that's what I saw Parker Thune post. So that's
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Speaker 1: something that we're gonna keep our eyes on. So let's
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Speaker 1: talk about that, Coop. My senses are when we look
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Speaker 1: at these rooms. We had a lot of questions coming
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Speaker 1: into the season. We had these similar questions last year
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Speaker 1: going in. It was more questions than concerns, which eventually
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Speaker 1: turned into concerns over questions because then we realized, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we got some stuff we need to work on going
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Speaker 1: into this year. I'm I have a similar approaches last year.
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Speaker 1: Knock on wood. The injury situation doesn't populate the same
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Speaker 1: way it did last year. There's a good chance that
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Speaker 1: we will just have questions and those questions will actually
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Speaker 1: get answered in a more favorable way in comparison to
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Speaker 1: last year. So when you look at rooms the start
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Speaker 1: of offense, who's a room that makes you say we
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Speaker 1: need to watch this one with a with a microscope,
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Speaker 1: not because you know issues even from last year, just
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Speaker 1: that we really need to pay attention to this room
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Speaker 1: to determine success going forward.
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Speaker 3: It's going to be the room that's the most crucial
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Speaker 3: to what this team ceiling is, and that's the offensive line.
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Speaker 3: You know, one of the freshmen that we did not
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Speaker 3: mention because people are hearing his name every day and
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Speaker 3: coming off of the you know, the the situation yesterday
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Speaker 3: at practice, Michael Fasousi. You know, right now you have
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Speaker 3: you have a decent amount I mean essentially a three
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Speaker 3: deep full of bodies, which in a normal situation you
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Speaker 3: need three deep because you don't want to, you know,
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Speaker 3: run into a spots where you have one guy injured
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Speaker 3: and then you have all the load on, you know,
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Speaker 3: the the second team offensive tackle and you're just praying
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Speaker 3: to God that nothing else happens because you ain't got
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Speaker 3: nothing else behind there. But I think that the offensive line,
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Speaker 3: this is going to be what determines, like I said,
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Speaker 3: the ceiling of this team.
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Speaker 2: I will caveat this.
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Speaker 3: Jay is with the offensive coordinator in Ben Arbuckle, and
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Speaker 3: with jaw Matier, you have a group who not only
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Speaker 3: is going to be more capable than we were last
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Speaker 3: year of you know, basically scheming plays away from trouble,
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Speaker 3: but and then Jomettier played behind a very lackluster offensive
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Speaker 3: line last year and still put up.
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Speaker 2: Forty four touchdowns.
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Speaker 3: So I will say this though, you know you're going
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Speaker 3: to have a basic battles for every single spot on
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Speaker 3: that offensive line, and Bill Beingbo has options, and not
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Speaker 3: only options, but like options for guys you know who
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Speaker 3: do things better.
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Speaker 2: You know you may have a guy.
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Speaker 3: Who is really really let's go with center with Troy Everett.
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Speaker 3: Troy Everett has the experience, this is probably the best
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Speaker 3: ball he's been playing in his career, but he's limited
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Speaker 3: somewhat physical gifts wise, and so behind him on with
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Speaker 3: with Michael la you're going to have a guy who
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Speaker 3: is a very, very very gifted athlete. He is a
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Speaker 3: little bit more on the physically intimidating side.
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Speaker 2: And so if it's a situation to.
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Speaker 3: Where you need to bring one of these guys off
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Speaker 3: the field for a coaching moment you're not basically clenching
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Speaker 3: tight and saying, guy, let's just hold on for dear
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Speaker 3: lives because nothing good is gonna happen until he gets
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Speaker 3: back in. And I'll pass it to you because I
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Speaker 3: got other ideas and thoughts, but but I want I
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Speaker 3: want to kind of hear your thoughts on those.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I like here the point what you point
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Speaker 1: out on offensive line, it's it's we know, Bill beating
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Speaker 1: Bow's good at his job. Last year, his job was
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Speaker 1: very difficult and that was a challenge. And I always
19:31
Speaker 1: do the caveat to everybody when I talk about this
19:34
Speaker 1: that watch the games where we played our performed our
19:37
Speaker 1: best basically against teams in the state of Alabama. We
19:40
Speaker 1: looked really good on the offensive line, a lot better
19:45
Speaker 1: than you even even anticipated. On top of that, we
19:49
Speaker 1: looked really good to me in the mission. In the
19:51
Speaker 1: Missouri game, we looked solid against LSU early. You saw
19:58
Speaker 1: some you know, busted things that hurt us that led
20:01
Speaker 1: us to being down at the half in which we
20:02
Speaker 1: were up going up until that. That was that a
20:06
Speaker 1: punt return for a touchdown?
20:08
Speaker 2: Or is that the kick return?
20:09
Speaker 1: Remember?
20:11
Speaker 2: Huh?
20:15
Speaker 1: Yes, last game of the season was it a kick return.
20:18
Speaker 1: I always forget which one it is. My brain hurts
20:21
Speaker 1: because of just the fact that we had the first
20:23
Speaker 1: half looking really really good. Let me let me. I'm
20:26
Speaker 1: gonna go with un to the play by play real quick.
20:28
Speaker 1: So I want to make sure yeah, uh, we tied
20:34
Speaker 1: the game. And then yeah it was it was yeah,
20:36
Speaker 1: we kicked the ball off.
20:37
Speaker 2: No uh.
20:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah it was a it was a kick return. God,
20:42
Speaker 1: how do you how do you? How do you do that? Uh?
20:45
Speaker 1: We score touchdowns? Kick the ball off and the return
20:47
Speaker 1: honey yards for a touchdown. That hurts. That hurts you,
20:51
Speaker 1: that that takes away the fact that you went up
20:55
Speaker 1: and you know, you had it tied at the half,
20:57
Speaker 1: you had it tied, and then they score touchdown in
20:59
Speaker 1: the half, and you know they go up twenty four
21:01
Speaker 1: to seventeen. So you were battling. You were you were,
21:04
Speaker 1: you were making it a game. The pump fumber recovery
21:06
Speaker 1: for a touchdown was beautiful. We did a lie But anyway,
21:08
Speaker 1: the offensive line looked solid, and then of course we
21:11
Speaker 1: got to the point where we just started following a
21:13
Speaker 1: part the interception, all of the stuff that just went down.
21:17
Speaker 1: But offensive line has to has to show us that
21:24
Speaker 1: it's got the chemistry that's required, and the good thing
21:27
Speaker 1: from me, I have faith in it mainly because I
21:29
Speaker 1: think that we do have ten dudes that we feel
21:33
Speaker 1: comfortable playing with. I think we have ten dues that
21:35
Speaker 1: Bill Beating both comfortable with being on the field. Now,
21:37
Speaker 1: you've got to figure out who the first top five are,
21:40
Speaker 1: who the top who the ones at each position that
21:42
Speaker 1: you want to go out there with. And we'll, like
21:43
Speaker 1: I said, we'll break down. We'll have our depth chart
21:45
Speaker 1: for everybody here on Sunday's live stream. And because we
21:51
Speaker 1: both have kind of an idea of what we think
21:54
Speaker 1: is gonna end up being. But the most.
21:57
Speaker 2: Huh, lots of lots of oars are a big.
22:00
Speaker 1: Author I think the first I think the Illinois State
22:04
Speaker 1: one is gonna be all oars. Honestly. I think the
22:06
Speaker 1: Illinois State one as well as the Michigan one are
22:09
Speaker 1: gonna be a ton of oars. Honest it might be
22:15
Speaker 1: oars up until Auburn or or let me add another
22:21
Speaker 1: oar to that, it could be oars up until Texas.
22:25
Speaker 1: Because if you think about it, you're going week after week,
22:28
Speaker 1: you're going from big game to a non contents considered
22:32
Speaker 1: a quote unquote cupcake. So because you're jumping so much,
22:36
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to determine who's gonna be that.
22:40
Speaker 1: So for me, it's it's gonna be a lot of
22:46
Speaker 1: oars going forward. But besides that component, I think the
22:53
Speaker 1: wide receiver room is definitely a room to watch. We
22:57
Speaker 1: talked about Elijah Thomas and in the first segment, and
23:04
Speaker 1: I'm really interested to see who's gonna take that number
23:08
Speaker 1: one spot. For me, it was it's definitely as to me,
23:13
Speaker 1: I think Zion Kearney's got it. I mean, I know
23:15
Speaker 1: he's been out a little bit, but I feel like
23:17
Speaker 1: he'll be back nights and healthy and he'll be one
23:19
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the biggest problem for people when it
23:22
Speaker 1: comes to that room. I like what he brings to
23:28
Speaker 1: the table. So I'm thinking Kearnie and I think in
23:34
Speaker 1: I'm thinking this, this is kind of what kind of
23:36
Speaker 1: jumps out to me. Coop, tell me what you think.
23:40
Speaker 1: I could see game one where that wide receiver room
23:44
Speaker 1: has Dion Burks and Isaiah Satanna on the field at
23:52
Speaker 1: the same time, with one of them on the outside,
23:54
Speaker 1: most likely Burks, and you have a mixture of either
23:58
Speaker 1: Zion Kearney or Keantes Lewis based upon health starting off
24:04
Speaker 1: the game. Does that sound crazy?
24:07
Speaker 2: No, I mean that sounds exciting.
24:11
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, of course excitement there, but no more
24:13
Speaker 1: so the would it make sense to having both Satannia
24:16
Speaker 1: and Burkes on the field? Of course, both of them
24:18
Speaker 1: are dynamic and for us, the initial conversation was does
24:23
Speaker 1: it would it make more sense to have Satania in
24:28
Speaker 1: the slot with Burkes or both of them in the
24:30
Speaker 1: bur in the slot or could it work with Burkes
24:34
Speaker 1: on the outside with another big receiver and have Satannia
24:37
Speaker 1: in the spot.
24:38
Speaker 2: Well, Jay, I'll go with this is.
24:41
Speaker 3: You know a lot of people are starting to comp
24:43
Speaker 3: this to twenty fifteen to Baker Mayfield's first season. Yeah,
24:47
Speaker 3: and Sterling Shepherd led that season with twelve hundred yards,
24:51
Speaker 3: Dede Westbrook seven point fifty, Durn Neil five hundred, and
24:56
Speaker 3: Joe Mixon three fifty six.
24:58
Speaker 1: Uh.
24:58
Speaker 2: And then we had a tight end at that time
25:00
Speaker 2: named Mark Andrews.
25:02
Speaker 3: If you start that, I think that what you're going
25:05
Speaker 3: to see is, you know, we've had a CD Lamb,
25:07
Speaker 3: We've had a Sterling Shepherd, We've had like a number
25:10
Speaker 3: one guy, and when we've had that number one guy,
25:12
Speaker 3: it's been around the twelve hundred yards mark. But I
25:15
Speaker 3: think in your scenario, yeah, Ben Arbuckle and Ben r
25:20
Speaker 3: Buckle is going to craft and you've heard it through
25:23
Speaker 3: some of the defensive interviews that he has an ability
25:27
Speaker 3: to scheme guys open and so I think that if
25:30
Speaker 3: you have Satanna and Burks in at the same time,
25:34
Speaker 3: you open up options. We know that Ben Arbuckle, you know,
25:37
Speaker 3: is going has been toying around with a lot of
25:39
Speaker 3: two back sets.
25:40
Speaker 2: So if you have both of these guys.
25:42
Speaker 3: On the outside, you can pull Burks back into the
25:44
Speaker 3: backfield and run at Jade, not Burke's situation with you know, swings,
25:51
Speaker 3: the the in and out routes, those angle routes. You
25:54
Speaker 3: still have Satanna, who again I think Satannia's the number
25:57
Speaker 3: one slot receiver for many teams in the and across
26:01
Speaker 3: college football. And so you create all these mismatches where
26:05
Speaker 3: you have a linebacker either covering Burks, and Burks is
26:08
Speaker 3: a dude who's still squats what was it, close to
26:11
Speaker 3: seven hundred pounds, So you've got him out there. You've
26:14
Speaker 3: got Satana, who is a mismatched nightmare in the slot.
26:19
Speaker 3: You cannot you know, you cannot split the coverage on
26:23
Speaker 3: the back end, so so rough to where you're going
26:25
Speaker 3: to leave the outside guys wide open. But I do
26:28
Speaker 3: think O you is going to have to prove it.
26:30
Speaker 3: Jay is after seeing last year there was no fear
26:34
Speaker 3: of them throwing the ball deep, There was no fear
26:36
Speaker 3: of anything past twenty five yards, There was none of that.
26:40
Speaker 3: So they said, hey, here's the deal. We're gonna come
26:42
Speaker 3: up and we're gonna take the lunches from your wide
26:45
Speaker 3: receivers at the line of scrimmage and we dare you
26:48
Speaker 3: to beat us with them. But this year and again,
26:55
Speaker 3: it's going to have to be a show me state situation,
26:57
Speaker 3: Like folks are going to say, like, let's see it.
27:00
Speaker 2: So that's what I think though.
27:01
Speaker 3: On Illinois State, you want to show that early, you
27:04
Speaker 3: want to show that you can go deep, and you
27:05
Speaker 3: want to send somebody. But if you have the options
27:08
Speaker 3: where you have maybe a Berks in the backfield and
27:10
Speaker 3: a Satanna, you know in the slot, one of those
27:14
Speaker 3: two guys could run a seam route kind of like
27:15
Speaker 3: a tied end may run.
27:17
Speaker 2: You stay and act like you're blocking in.
27:19
Speaker 3: The scooch out you're also going to have a Jade
27:21
Speaker 3: Nott who you can send out, who has what was,
27:23
Speaker 3: you know, close to eighty catches in his career at
27:26
Speaker 3: this point too, So you're going to have options, and
27:29
Speaker 3: that's going to be some of the fun pieces. And
27:32
Speaker 3: the more that you deal in a burks An Aught,
27:36
Speaker 3: a Satania, potentially a tied end like a Huggins, well
27:40
Speaker 3: then everybody's going to forget about the two kids on
27:42
Speaker 3: the outside, or people are going to forget about, you know,
27:45
Speaker 3: a Kearnie or a Keyantes Lewis or when Giovanni is
27:49
Speaker 3: is fully writing, you're gonna forget about that and you're
27:51
Speaker 3: gonna crace one on one mismatches there And I have
27:54
Speaker 3: heard now starting it multiple times. Jay John Matier throws
27:59
Speaker 3: a really really big, great back shoulder ball and so
28:03
Speaker 3: if you've got a step, he's gonna launch it. If
28:06
Speaker 3: if you got some decent coverage back shoulder time.
28:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, his his back shoulder passes have been beautiful. Every
28:15
Speaker 1: time I see them in the highlights, I'm like, ooh,
28:18
Speaker 1: I need more of that inject yet right here.
28:24
Speaker 2: I need it.
28:24
Speaker 1: I need it now. And we're gonna get a lot
28:26
Speaker 1: of that. But no that's a. That's a that's a
28:28
Speaker 1: that's a good point. I know that Burke's is really
28:30
Speaker 1: good on the fade. We saw that last year even
28:32
Speaker 1: with Jacksonarnal thrown on the ball, so we know that
28:35
Speaker 1: that's there. I guess the question is gonna be how weird?
28:42
Speaker 1: How weird? Is is it been? Arbical gonna get I
28:44
Speaker 1: cannot wait to see that. I think that's the thing
28:46
Speaker 1: that makes me the most excited about this room to
28:49
Speaker 1: watch is I want to see what what weirdness he's
28:53
Speaker 1: gonna throw out there for us. Okay, let's move into defense.
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Speaker 1: know that this is the strength of this team, but
29:12
Speaker 1: where do you think we need to really be keyed
29:16
Speaker 1: in on with that microscope going into this season.
29:23
Speaker 2: It's it's going to be the pass rush just in general.
29:27
Speaker 2: I think that.
29:30
Speaker 3: What it sounds like is Jaden Jackson wherever he's at,
29:34
Speaker 3: that's where he's going to be. And if he's going
29:37
Speaker 3: to be coming closer to you, not getting further away
29:39
Speaker 3: from you. You know, also Dom Williams backup on the
29:43
Speaker 3: on the heavy side three twenty plus, it's going to be.
29:48
Speaker 2: The pass rush.
29:49
Speaker 1: You know.
29:49
Speaker 3: Now in year two you want to see a little
29:51
Speaker 3: bit more out of that in Jaden Jackson, but particularly
29:54
Speaker 3: the edges are going to create some you know, create
29:59
Speaker 3: opportunities for us that we kind of didn't see last year.
30:02
Speaker 3: You had our Mason Thomas and he has you know,
30:06
Speaker 3: I think the pass rushes in his bag like that.
30:08
Speaker 2: It is what it is.
30:10
Speaker 3: Teams weren't put in a predictable passing scenario very often
30:14
Speaker 3: against us last year, and so he didn't get a
30:17
Speaker 3: lot of those opportunities. And when they were that's when
30:19
Speaker 3: he showed up. So it is going to be on
30:22
Speaker 3: his backup and then on the other side, who on
30:25
Speaker 3: the other side is going to be able to take
30:27
Speaker 3: that opportunity and create consistent pressure on a passer in
30:31
Speaker 3: an obvious passing situation? Can't Dania Dania Koye our boyfriend
30:37
Speaker 3: of the program. You know, Danny is ready to roll,
30:41
Speaker 3: and we hear that more and more now that man
30:44
Speaker 3: you know what did Shaev says we're ready to unleash
30:47
Speaker 3: him on the SEC and your boys spent way too
30:50
Speaker 3: much time staring at the picture of him at o'conna
30:54
Speaker 3: where he's doing this, just because I wanted to put
30:58
Speaker 3: SEC fans this name.
31:00
Speaker 2: This name is Danny A. Koye. You will meet him soon.
31:03
Speaker 2: But you also have PJ. You also have.
31:08
Speaker 3: Uh Marvin Jones Junior, Uh Guillory not Guillory, but uh
31:13
Speaker 3: you're starting to White Gilmore starting to have a little
31:16
Speaker 3: bit more in his game and then now a Taylor Wine.
31:19
Speaker 3: So we need to get that that that outside pass
31:22
Speaker 3: rush needs to happen. And I think that even interior wise,
31:27
Speaker 3: you're going to see a lot of it from Grayson Halton.
31:29
Speaker 3: You're going to see a lot of it from uh
31:31
Speaker 3: a David Stone. So we've got capabilities and we've got
31:35
Speaker 3: the bodies to do it. And I think that we
31:37
Speaker 3: now have the we.
31:40
Speaker 2: Got all the tools. Well, we got the ball. We're
31:42
Speaker 2: ready to play play play the ball game.
31:44
Speaker 3: And so if that happens, it takes our defense to
31:48
Speaker 3: a new level that we have not quite seen in
31:51
Speaker 3: a while.
31:52
Speaker 1: I can see that. Yeah, make sure you leverage an
31:56
Speaker 1: Oxford coma in that statement. Our boy friend Danny Okoye
32:03
Speaker 1: kind of was a that threw me off a little.
32:05
Speaker 3: Bit Danny Danny uh after look at that picture.
32:09
Speaker 2: If he said to do it, I'm not gonna argue
32:11
Speaker 2: with the dude.
32:12
Speaker 1: That's hilarious, but more so because because you said it
32:15
Speaker 1: in perfect succession, I was like, hopefully he leveraged an
32:18
Speaker 1: Oxford comma in that hope the transcript does it. Probably didn't,
32:21
Speaker 1: but I digress. You're right. I wanted to with chayev
32:25
Speaker 1: Is saying they're gonna unleash Daniel Koye. I expect him
32:27
Speaker 1: to play a lot this year.
32:29
Speaker 2: Now.
32:29
Speaker 1: I know that he is the freak freakish athlete. They've
32:32
Speaker 1: talked about how his capabilities are ridiculous and all he
32:35
Speaker 1: needs is uh time, an opportunity, and that should come up.
32:41
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that that does come up very very soon,
32:46
Speaker 1: so we'll keep our eyes open on that. But I'm
32:52
Speaker 1: looking at the past Rush Coop. When I pulled up
32:57
Speaker 1: the roster, you really do have possibly five dudes that
33:05
Speaker 1: you want to see on the field. You want Marvin Jones,
33:09
Speaker 1: you want Oko Yea, you want our Mason, you want
33:12
Speaker 1: PJ and you want Wine. You want all five of them.
33:15
Speaker 1: Somehow in the field. You can't play at five, but
33:17
Speaker 1: you want all five, and really the question is who's
33:19
Speaker 1: gonna be the one that's gonna step out and force
33:21
Speaker 1: their way on the field next to our mason or
33:23
Speaker 1: even right behind them, because you know they don't play
33:25
Speaker 1: every snap. You don't want them to play every snap.
33:28
Speaker 1: But I think the good thing is is that we've
33:30
Speaker 1: got three non cons that we'll be able to determine
33:35
Speaker 1: they should be able to pad stats in those three games.
33:42
Speaker 1: If they don't pad stats against Kent State, at Temple
33:46
Speaker 1: and versus Illinois State, we have issues. And I don't
33:49
Speaker 1: mean stat padding from our starters. I'm talking about when
33:53
Speaker 1: we got the reserves end, like Marcus Strong got two
33:55
Speaker 1: sacks and what was that was at the Was that
33:57
Speaker 1: the Houston game or I think it was Temple Temple.
34:00
Speaker 1: I think it was a typical game. That's the expectation.
34:03
Speaker 1: I need my backups to get themselves two three four sacks,
34:08
Speaker 1: load those up going into if the interior, You're right,
34:10
Speaker 1: Jayane Jackson is the name that everybody is like. I
34:13
Speaker 1: think Teddy was like that. Dude knows how to move
34:15
Speaker 1: and he is unmovable. He's great on the interior and
34:19
Speaker 1: he'll be fine. He's gonna continue and he's been back
34:21
Speaker 1: in practice, he's been back and doing his thing. He's good.
34:25
Speaker 1: I'm ready to see Stone. This is to me, Stone's chance.
34:29
Speaker 1: This is your time to shine. Not really that not
34:34
Speaker 1: really that you know is due or die type situation.
34:37
Speaker 1: But the expectation is he should be that dude that
34:42
Speaker 1: next to Jane Jackson is ridiculously that. That's just ridiculous.
34:45
Speaker 1: So I expect the defense to give us that. If
34:48
Speaker 1: you give me one, it's going back to the DB's
34:51
Speaker 1: you talking about Cortland Guillery, who we're expecting as a
34:53
Speaker 1: true freshman to get some runs similar to Eli Bowen
34:56
Speaker 1: did Eli Bowen's down. So that opens an opportunity for
34:59
Speaker 1: other players. And I think that that's where you're gonna
35:01
Speaker 1: see a lot of opportunity open. It's gonna be based
35:05
Speaker 1: up on players being up or down. But Coop, I'm
35:10
Speaker 1: curious of the thought of this Adobe on the outside
35:13
Speaker 1: with Gentry Williams to start then rotate in Guillory as
35:18
Speaker 1: you want him to go. Get that dude, seeball, getball.
35:24
Speaker 1: What do you think about Dobe ending up on the
35:27
Speaker 1: outside next to Gentry If Gentry is healthy like we expect,
35:32
Speaker 1: like he sounds like going.
35:34
Speaker 3: Forward, I will say this, gentry is healthy. We have
35:40
Speaker 3: yet to play Game one, but gentry is healthy. And
35:43
Speaker 3: so what I would expect on that other side is
35:46
Speaker 3: if you throw.
35:47
Speaker 2: Adobe out there, who are you?
35:49
Speaker 1: What are you?
35:49
Speaker 2: What are you? Why?
35:51
Speaker 3: Well, Kendall Dolby two years ago won every like you know,
35:56
Speaker 3: inside of the program, Defensive Award, you know, the Grit Award, uh,
36:02
Speaker 3: the you know, the most Improved, all these awards. We
36:04
Speaker 3: had him on to talk about those things and he
36:07
Speaker 3: was I mean, he obviously is just a guy who
36:11
Speaker 3: knows how to ball, and so I think that if
36:13
Speaker 3: you put him out there, he is going to give you,
36:17
Speaker 3: I think, what your dependability. And then when you want
36:21
Speaker 3: to rotate some other guys in, you want to bring
36:24
Speaker 3: you know, Devon Jordan in, you want to bring a
36:26
Speaker 3: guillery in, you want to throw in a newcomer Jacoby,
36:30
Speaker 3: You're going to have those options to do that with
36:33
Speaker 3: a guy who is a who is just a super
36:36
Speaker 3: dependable person in Kennel Dolby and Jay I mean just
36:40
Speaker 3: across the entire defense. You don't want to have to
36:44
Speaker 3: depend on depth because of injuries. You want to be
36:46
Speaker 3: able to depend on depth so that you can stay
36:49
Speaker 3: fresh and keep folks.
36:51
Speaker 2: Out there who you know. BV in year one.
36:55
Speaker 3: Talked about the competitive depth and so if you're watching now,
36:59
Speaker 3: you can take your But we talked about that from
37:02
Speaker 3: a manner of you have people who should be on
37:06
Speaker 3: the field and aren't out of place on the field
37:09
Speaker 3: at all times. Now it is a deal to where
37:11
Speaker 3: you have high performing championship debt on the defensive side.
37:17
Speaker 3: So if you roll somebody off, you're going to roll
37:19
Speaker 3: somebody in and there's no drop off. There's not going
37:22
Speaker 3: to be a drop off when a PJ walks off
37:25
Speaker 3: and a Wine comes on. There's not gonna be drop
37:27
Speaker 3: off when Kobe goes and takes a seat and Alma
37:30
Speaker 3: Sego comes in. There's not gonna be a drop off
37:32
Speaker 3: when Peyton Bowen leaves and Reggie Powers comes in.
37:35
Speaker 2: It's going to be the same thing with the.
37:36
Speaker 3: With the corners, the corners, I do you know you're
37:39
Speaker 3: gonna have some of these wide receiver sets in the
37:42
Speaker 3: SEC that you're going to I mean, you've got a
37:45
Speaker 3: Cam Coleman at Auburn, You've got Ryan Williams at Alabama.
37:50
Speaker 3: You've got I mean a B C, D E or
37:53
Speaker 3: F at LSU. So you've got a lot of wide
37:56
Speaker 3: receivers that you're gonna be able to put those guys
37:58
Speaker 3: out there. The that the saving grace Jay is if
38:02
Speaker 3: the defensive line is who we think they are, then
38:06
Speaker 3: they don't have to cover for seven, eight, nine, ten seconds.
38:10
Speaker 3: So do your job. You know, b situation situationally and
38:15
Speaker 3: technically sounds and those guys are going to be successful.
38:18
Speaker 3: Now are there going to be times to where a
38:22
Speaker 3: bust happens. It happens in every NFL game, it happens
38:25
Speaker 3: in every college football game. There's going to be a
38:27
Speaker 3: bust that happens at some point. You just need the
38:29
Speaker 3: bust to be a twenty five thirty five yard bust,
38:32
Speaker 3: not an eighty yard bust.
38:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you want. You want shorter yardage plays.
38:38
Speaker 1: You want teams to go up against us. He read
38:40
Speaker 1: at bat quick. I mean, heck, you kind of want
38:42
Speaker 1: teams to end up and going into max protect more
38:46
Speaker 1: on us than not and then just be able to
38:49
Speaker 1: But then in the safety's gonna have to do their work.
38:51
Speaker 1: The question is going to be how the blitz is
38:53
Speaker 1: gonna look the blitz package that they put together. But yeah,
39:00
Speaker 1: that's That's a good point that if the defensive line
39:03
Speaker 1: it's as we advertise them as we hope that they
39:06
Speaker 1: should be, we shouldn't. The secondary shouldn't be working as hard.
39:12
Speaker 1: It should be forced to get rid of the ball quickly.
39:14
Speaker 1: Tip passes. That's the thing I like to see more
39:18
Speaker 1: of this year. I want to see more deflections at
39:20
Speaker 1: the line that forces passes to end up floating, which
39:24
Speaker 1: that's kind of where he gets Cheetah to where those
39:27
Speaker 1: dudes can come across and get them. So I know
39:28
Speaker 1: Dbey's gonna run some cheetah, He's gonna be rotated in
39:31
Speaker 1: at some cheetah. I'm kind of expecting Powers to be
39:34
Speaker 1: the starting cheetah, and I think Kendall Daniels rotates around
39:37
Speaker 1: from there and linebacker. To me, seems like a very
39:40
Speaker 1: intriguing setup somebody else that I'm very intrigued to see.
39:43
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it a buck. I really want to
39:45
Speaker 1: see what Taylor him turns into. He feels like he's
39:50
Speaker 1: very very interesting prospect, mainly because he's a flipping giant,
39:58
Speaker 1: and if if he turns out to be as good
40:05
Speaker 1: as we hope, just because he's sixty six, if he
40:09
Speaker 1: puts on the weight to create those problems. Man, he
40:13
Speaker 1: could be fun. And that's just tell me, you know,
40:16
Speaker 1: I mean being honest.
40:18
Speaker 3: You're taking what you've heard about Kendall Daniels. We all
40:21
Speaker 3: know the size of Kendle Daniels that you know, six
40:23
Speaker 3: five dudes with almost seven foot wingspan.
40:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you heard.
40:31
Speaker 3: You've heard practice reports and you've heard some of the
40:33
Speaker 3: commentary of him, you know, jumping up and tipping a
40:37
Speaker 3: pass that was intended for a receiver basically ten fifteen
40:41
Speaker 3: yards behind him, him almost picking off an out route
40:44
Speaker 3: from the cheetah spot by the outside receiver. Like when
40:48
Speaker 3: you have these physical mutants out there with these massive wingspans.
40:54
Speaker 3: You know how many times you know in the NFL
40:57
Speaker 3: college football do you see a line jump up and
41:01
Speaker 3: the ball just go, you know, right over his hand,
41:05
Speaker 3: And you're like, man, if that dude was six three,
41:08
Speaker 3: it's you know, that's an interception or a tip ball
41:10
Speaker 3: and it's not.
41:11
Speaker 2: A big gain.
41:12
Speaker 3: You get more and more guys like Kendall Daniels and Hi,
41:16
Speaker 3: I'm out there. Those things are going to start becoming realities.
41:19
Speaker 3: And you know, you even have a James Nesta coming
41:22
Speaker 3: up in the fold two at a six three, and
41:24
Speaker 3: so you want some of these bigger athletes because the
41:28
Speaker 3: gaps in the windows are already small in the sec
41:31
Speaker 3: you know, And I'd say also the you know, the
41:33
Speaker 3: big ten at the top end of the college football echelons.
41:37
Speaker 3: But when you've got guys who I don't know, are
41:41
Speaker 3: two to three inches taller, bigger wingspans, those windows just
41:46
Speaker 3: they become walls and they don't exist at all, they do.
41:52
Speaker 1: I really want to see how that turns out. I'm
41:54
Speaker 1: really interested in how many deflected passes we could get
42:03
Speaker 1: this year. I think that that's the ding I've gotten
42:06
Speaker 1: stuck on as of late. What does that look like
42:09
Speaker 1: for us, cause it should be a lot more, especially
42:12
Speaker 1: with the way that we're hearing you do. The flying
42:14
Speaker 1: around on defense should be so much more. But at
42:18
Speaker 1: the same time, you know what, thank you all for
42:24
Speaker 1: pulling up hit the like button. If you are new
42:28
Speaker 1: to the channel, subscribe rate review, give us five coup
42:31
Speaker 1: One thing that they get posted today was the Sooners.
42:39
Speaker 1: That are all we've got? What ten guys added to
42:52
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl watch lists top three hundred. Let me
43:00
Speaker 1: give you, Let me give you those names I had
43:03
Speaker 1: it pulled up and then I closed it on accident.
43:07
Speaker 1: Let me pull it up real quick so you can
43:09
Speaker 1: know the names. Here's your ten players. You have Dion Bergs, Kendall, Daniels, Kenda, Adobe,
43:15
Speaker 1: Grayson Halton, Marvin Jones Junior, John Mattier, j Not Robert Spears,
43:19
Speaker 1: Jennings are Mason Thomas as well as Dominick Williams. For
43:23
Speaker 1: y'all watching, you can sit on the screen coop out
43:29
Speaker 1: of those players. As I think about it, I think
43:34
Speaker 1: only one of them is eligible to come back, and
43:38
Speaker 1: that's Ma Tier. Now I think about it, everybody else
43:41
Speaker 1: is out of eligibility after this year unless they red shirt.
43:46
Speaker 1: Who do you think ends up at the Senior Bowl?
43:56
Speaker 2: I mean, you're gonna go to the Senior Ball.
44:00
Speaker 3: Because you want to show some of the NFL coaching
44:04
Speaker 3: you know, coaching staffs, why you are are better than
44:10
Speaker 3: maybe they're you know initially the eval You know, I
44:14
Speaker 3: look at Dion Burks, you know when he's going to
44:18
Speaker 3: be a combined guy, he's going to go, he's going
44:20
Speaker 3: to have he's going to have his hops, he's going
44:22
Speaker 3: to have the speed.
44:25
Speaker 2: So you know, maybe not him.
44:27
Speaker 3: I think Kendall Daniels will be a big Senior Bowl
44:30
Speaker 3: guy because you're gonna want to see, uh, you know,
44:33
Speaker 3: by that time at the end of the season, we
44:34
Speaker 3: haven't even started the season. But by that time he's
44:37
Speaker 3: going to have film with a different mindset in a
44:40
Speaker 3: high performing off defense. But I think that they're gonna
44:44
Speaker 3: want him at Senior Bowl to test him out in
44:46
Speaker 3: different positions. You know, what do you look like from
44:49
Speaker 3: a from a linebacker perspective, what do you look at?
44:52
Speaker 3: And maybe a nickel, maybe a safety. So people are
44:55
Speaker 3: gonna want to kind of see that. I would say
44:58
Speaker 3: that maybe a Marvin Joe, Oh, Robert Spears Jennings, maybe
45:05
Speaker 3: a Dom Williams.
45:06
Speaker 2: Just what you know, what what do you you know?
45:08
Speaker 2: Best of the best?
45:09
Speaker 3: I mean those all those guys you know, from a
45:13
Speaker 3: from a Crimson glasses perspective, we know who Dominic Williams is.
45:18
Speaker 3: And yeah, and so dom we know who dom is.
45:23
Speaker 3: Dom is a big interior guy. He doesn't get moved.
45:27
Speaker 2: Are they going to say, what you know? What can
45:29
Speaker 2: we see you from a three tech or a four tech?
45:32
Speaker 2: Your pass rush skills?
45:33
Speaker 3: Like, can we get you a grade on the different
45:36
Speaker 3: you know, different moves that you generate our Mason. I
45:39
Speaker 3: don't know if he's going to go unless he I
45:41
Speaker 3: mean he unless he just wants to. But I think
45:44
Speaker 3: that folks are going to want to see, you know,
45:46
Speaker 3: playing in the SEC. You're gonna have a ton of
45:47
Speaker 3: tape on on these guys.
45:49
Speaker 1: You know.
45:49
Speaker 3: It's where you're seeing them against a Caden Proctor, where
45:54
Speaker 3: you're seeing jayden Ought, you know, run and take on passes.
45:58
Speaker 3: But Jay not's the type of guy that I think
46:00
Speaker 3: it goes to the Senior Bowl and ends up like
46:02
Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl MVP like that.
46:04
Speaker 2: He's just has the he.
46:05
Speaker 3: Has the flexibility, and he's got the bag to kind
46:08
Speaker 3: of do that. From a running perspective, his question is
46:13
Speaker 3: going to be how good are you at pass blocking?
46:16
Speaker 3: How good are you in protection?
46:19
Speaker 1: That's true, everybody's gonna ask that specific question, who are you?
46:23
Speaker 1: How good are you? Yeah? How good are you at that?
46:28
Speaker 1: That's gonna be. That's gonna be the legit question. I
46:30
Speaker 1: do think that we have eight out of the ten.
46:31
Speaker 1: Make it.
46:35
Speaker 2: So, Jay, then I'll say this, like, let's let's take
46:41
Speaker 2: one of those guys in a John Materier.
46:46
Speaker 1: John asked the question, would John Matier actually quote unquote
46:52
Speaker 1: make the game, because typically that game, like you said,
46:54
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's more so people that need need
46:57
Speaker 1: the additional audition, and that's no shame. It's usually guys
47:01
Speaker 1: that are known they're gonna go in first round. The
47:03
Speaker 1: usually don't go yeah, or sometimes even day two guys.
47:07
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a draft grade.
47:10
Speaker 1: Yeah.
47:11
Speaker 3: But also Jay, that draft grade that determines whether he
47:16
Speaker 3: comes back or not. And so my question for you
47:22
Speaker 3: to transition to maybe a different topic would be, give
47:27
Speaker 3: me the record that oh you has to have this
47:31
Speaker 3: year for Jeometire to know without a shadow of doubt
47:36
Speaker 3: go to the NFL.
47:38
Speaker 1: Tending two that's the minimum double digit wins to me,
47:43
Speaker 1: tells him bounce. I think nine to three leaves something
47:48
Speaker 1: more to be desired, and he could potentially be like,
47:51
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna come back and see if we
47:53
Speaker 1: can get over the hunk.
47:56
Speaker 3: So hypothetical, hypothetical, Right, this is where still preseason, it's
48:01
Speaker 3: talk season. So Jametier goes ten to two, eleven and
48:05
Speaker 3: one ends in the I mean, loses in the semi final.
48:10
Speaker 3: To let's say Clemson, you're you're you're basically a game
48:17
Speaker 3: away from the National championship with what ou has coming
48:20
Speaker 3: back next year, Say he gets a third round grade,
48:25
Speaker 3: which is a Day two grade, Jeometier get a little
48:29
Speaker 3: squirrely and maybe want to come back because now in
48:31
Speaker 3: the nil era he's gonna make a decent amount of money.
48:38
Speaker 1: Ooh, I think the record of ten and two is
48:44
Speaker 1: where he's probably gonna bounce. But I guess the caveat
48:49
Speaker 1: to that is the question is what is his well
48:52
Speaker 1: if we go ten to two is because he put
48:53
Speaker 1: up some stupid numbers period, Like that's gonna have to
48:56
Speaker 1: be required because I think even as good as the
48:58
Speaker 1: defense is, he's gonna have to do that to make
49:02
Speaker 1: sure we win some of the key games. And that
49:06
Speaker 1: gets him into conversations of like Heisman and stuff, which
49:10
Speaker 1: people are starting to put him out there. But I
49:12
Speaker 1: think you make a good point there, Coop. If they
49:16
Speaker 1: make a run in the playoffs but don't close it,
49:22
Speaker 1: does he decide to come back and play once again.
49:32
Speaker 1: That's a really good one.
49:34
Speaker 3: So let me ask you this because they'll say our boy, Yeah,
49:38
Speaker 3: say our boy cam Ward goes out and just balls
49:41
Speaker 3: this year. Does that help Jo Mateer's draft stock? Or
49:48
Speaker 3: say that cam Ward goes out and struggles in the NFL.
49:51
Speaker 3: Does that maybe encourage him to stick around and come
49:55
Speaker 3: back for a final season, because you're starting to see
49:59
Speaker 3: all over the place.
50:00
Speaker 2: I mean, Quinn yours super late.
50:02
Speaker 3: Round draft pick, he's uh, he's he's the next concussion
50:07
Speaker 3: to Tua away from being an NFL starting Yeah, And
50:12
Speaker 3: so I think that with John John is he twenty two?
50:18
Speaker 3: I would say he's twenty one or twenty two. I mean,
50:20
Speaker 3: I think John's right in that spots where he's right
50:23
Speaker 3: on that border to where I mean, you come back
50:26
Speaker 3: in twenty six with an opportunity to maybe be a
50:29
Speaker 3: favorite for the national champion Uh, you know, national championship contender.
50:35
Speaker 3: There's just so many things out there. And again that's
50:38
Speaker 3: that's the opportunity that lies here with this team. This
50:41
Speaker 3: you know for for twenty twenty five is you've got
50:44
Speaker 3: the defense, You've got a lot of the pieces. Jay,
50:47
Speaker 3: You're still really ridiculously young, and this team's probably going
50:53
Speaker 3: to be pretty much intact next year.
50:58
Speaker 1: They are like you, when we talked about if Oklahoma
51:02
Speaker 1: could make a run, we specifically talked about this year
51:07
Speaker 1: like we ain't talked about twenty five. Back in twenty two,
51:11
Speaker 1: like if Oklahoma makes the run and it's all because
51:13
Speaker 1: of classes. And I know everybody's kind of freaking out
51:16
Speaker 1: about the twenty twenty six recruiting class. Totally understand you're
51:20
Speaker 1: not used to this. But the classes before this, the
51:23
Speaker 1: ones that are playing right now, we're top ten classes
51:26
Speaker 1: going back right, You've got you know those, which is
51:32
Speaker 1: as a lot of you point out that you know,
51:35
Speaker 1: we need to have these top classes in order to
51:37
Speaker 1: be able to play. I caution you to not take
51:44
Speaker 1: this year's class and say, oh, this year's class is
51:50
Speaker 1: not very good, so this season's gonna be bad, which
51:54
Speaker 1: they has zero correlation to each other because the players
51:59
Speaker 1: aren't on a team. But the three before you go,
52:05
Speaker 1: look at what's this. Let me see Bev's first class
52:08
Speaker 1: was twenty two. You know that was the one he
52:11
Speaker 1: salvaged number eight in the country. Twenty three class when
52:19
Speaker 1: it loads up, and this is off from two four seven,
52:22
Speaker 1: number six class, and I think that ESPN had the
52:25
Speaker 1: number four on THEIRS twenty twenty four class, number eight.
52:29
Speaker 1: There's three straight top ten classes. Twenty five did not
52:33
Speaker 1: finish top ten, it finished top twenty. But that's when
52:37
Speaker 1: you also saw a lot of you know, more portal action.
52:39
Speaker 1: But point being, those three classes are playing now Robert Spiars, Jennings,
52:45
Speaker 1: Gentry Williams. That's this class. This is why we were
52:49
Speaker 1: looking at Hey, twenty five is most likely the season
52:53
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma plays its best ball. And I think we're
52:56
Speaker 1: here at this point where we can say that. So, yeah,
52:58
Speaker 1: I think for John Matier to make a return though,
53:01
Speaker 1: this is a very interesting I've seen people talk about this.
53:04
Speaker 1: I mentioned its actually my boy John overlocked on Sooners.
53:07
Speaker 1: My co hosts there talked about that and what would
53:11
Speaker 1: require what would make him come back. Yeah, it's if
53:16
Speaker 1: he doesn't if the cam Ward angle is interesting Coop though,
53:21
Speaker 1: Like I can't get over that. That's a very good
53:23
Speaker 1: angle to look at. If he does not succeed, does
53:29
Speaker 1: that make people pump the brakes because they're coming from
53:32
Speaker 1: the same quote unquote tree lineage, Or if he does
53:36
Speaker 1: really well, do people take advantage of that and say, oh,
53:38
Speaker 1: maybe Jeometier can If Jeometier puts up cam Ward like numbers,
53:42
Speaker 1: he would have to be invited to New York first
53:44
Speaker 1: and foremost to me to go to guarantee he's gone
53:49
Speaker 1: gonna be And cam Ward's trajectory matter that much, he
53:54
Speaker 1: would have to go to New York. That's gonna be
53:57
Speaker 1: that's the biggest question. Now some people have put their
54:00
Speaker 1: money on it. I commend them, so, yeah, that gots it.
54:10
Speaker 1: New York is on there, So we just got to
54:12
Speaker 1: see that if he can get there. But I do
54:14
Speaker 1: think that that's that's a way to get him to go,
54:21
Speaker 1: that there's a way that there is a path for
54:24
Speaker 1: him to return if he wants to, and I think
54:28
Speaker 1: his unfinished business could possibly do it if they go deep. Yeah,
54:32
Speaker 1: that could be a possibility because you return so much
54:35
Speaker 1: more that next year too. Like if there's a year
54:38
Speaker 1: that I'm concerned about, Oklahoma's twenty seven, and that's me
54:43
Speaker 1: having to see how certain players pan out, Like you'll
54:46
Speaker 1: have some good, really good juniors, but you'll probably be
54:52
Speaker 1: still really young that year, and especially a linebacker.
55:01
Speaker 3: And and I will say this, Jay, if Matier does
55:05
Speaker 3: have a successful year, oh you fall short of all
55:07
Speaker 3: the goals. You got kind of a Peyton Manning t
55:10
Speaker 3: Martin situation ready for next year. Jaumetier, Malan Geometier, Peyton Manning.
55:18
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, Mike Hawkins, I've heard more chat about
55:23
Speaker 3: Mike Hawkins in the past week and a half two weeks.
55:28
Speaker 3: Then I have the entire I mean even leading into
55:30
Speaker 3: last year that you take that pure bred athlete and
55:35
Speaker 3: now he actually has somebody who can coach him. Between
55:39
Speaker 3: Kuzievsky and Arbuckle, Kevin Wilson, you've got a lot of that.
55:47
Speaker 3: So there could be a situation to where you load
55:49
Speaker 3: up for next year and Mike Hawkins gets to reap
55:52
Speaker 3: the benefit of everything that's happened up to this point
55:55
Speaker 3: and it makes his stay very, very worthwhile. Mike Hawkins
56:00
Speaker 3: is still going to be an absolute stud. And you
56:03
Speaker 3: gotta remember, I mean he was a freshman this past year,
56:05
Speaker 3: true freshman.
56:06
Speaker 1: True freshman, what on the road won a game? First
56:09
Speaker 1: time true freshman all the way.
56:11
Speaker 3: Hey guess what, true freshman. I got no offensive line
56:15
Speaker 3: for you, I got no receiver corps for you. We're
56:17
Speaker 3: gonna send you to the SEC to a very very
56:20
Speaker 3: daunting place to play.
56:22
Speaker 2: Good luck, Champ, you got this.
56:25
Speaker 1: Put me on there.
56:26
Speaker 2: Somebody get up there and be somebody.
56:28
Speaker 1: But you're right, he's good. He's a quarterback. That's why
56:32
Speaker 1: I say the questions isn't really around him. To me
56:36
Speaker 1: when I look at the roster. I think the dB
56:39
Speaker 1: room's gonna be good if everybody's healthy. I think the
56:43
Speaker 1: second I think the entire secondary is gonna be really good.
56:46
Speaker 1: On defense, my questions is what does the D line
56:49
Speaker 1: and the linebacker room look like? Even though I like
56:52
Speaker 1: some of the players in there, I want to see
56:53
Speaker 1: what they look like as a cohesive unit in twenty
56:55
Speaker 1: seven is when my question comes in offensive side though, Oh,
56:59
Speaker 1: line twenty seven should be reallyally good. That's probably that
57:03
Speaker 1: would be one of our stronger offensive lines as well.
57:08
Speaker 1: Whide receiver rooms should be if everything stays intact, should
57:12
Speaker 1: be strong. That would be if they're if they're still here,
57:16
Speaker 1: that seniors and ivan carry on. Zion Courtney, Josiah Martin,
57:21
Speaker 1: Elijah Thomas is a junior, Jacob Jordan to be a senior,
57:29
Speaker 1: Many Choice is a junior. Zion Ragings is gonna be
57:35
Speaker 1: a a red shirt junior. Same thing with kJ Daniels.
57:40
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's heavy chances you that's that room's gonna
57:44
Speaker 1: shouldn't look better because they're all your recruits. That's the
57:47
Speaker 1: one thing you want, You're you're you're looking forward to
57:49
Speaker 1: that longs is intact. Going off of the mind frame
57:52
Speaker 1: that says is intact, in which this staff had done
57:54
Speaker 1: a very good job of retention, a lot better than most.
57:58
Speaker 1: So well, and.
58:02
Speaker 3: Call me pessimistic, but I don't think our buckle's here
58:06
Speaker 3: in twenty seven either.
58:07
Speaker 2: Fair. It's fair, our buckle, our buckle.
58:10
Speaker 3: You come in and you show a decent you know,
58:15
Speaker 3: a decent amounts of uh, you know, growth in this
58:21
Speaker 3: offense minimum, and then you come out next year and
58:24
Speaker 3: you threaten for the national championship. He's gonna be a
58:28
Speaker 3: coach somewhere else, and it you know, whether him being
58:32
Speaker 3: here would only be the job that I'm waiting for,
58:35
Speaker 3: isn't ready yet or isn't there yet? Because I don't
58:38
Speaker 3: think our buckle goes to a Houston. I don't think
58:40
Speaker 3: our buckle goes to a you know, somewhere like that.
58:43
Speaker 3: I think that if I'm being our buckle, I'm maybe
58:45
Speaker 3: keeping my eyes set on a you know, potentially Miami,
58:54
Speaker 3: you know somewhere somewhere like that. You're gonna want to
58:56
Speaker 3: go to a bigger spot. Because I don't think that
59:01
Speaker 3: he is gonna be gay now again, I mean, in
59:03
Speaker 3: twenty seven, what's the dude gonna be thirty one. I mean,
59:05
Speaker 3: he's still gonna be a pup.
59:09
Speaker 1: You're right, he's still gonna be a pup. Oh man.
59:14
Speaker 1: There's a lot of good thoughts, good thought exercises here
59:20
Speaker 1: that we could truly go through. So all right, we'll
59:23
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