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r/Movies Recommends: The Fall (2006) · Fumbling Through Film

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  Gathered together from the cosmic reaches of the universe, here in this great screening room with comfortable recliners, are the most powerful forces of good ever assembled. Keith!
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  Welcome to class.
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  Terry!
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  She's the reincarnation of my lost lover. Me too, weird. Me too, weird.
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  Derek!
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  So if an elephant went swimming, like you said, Terry, and it thinks it's gonna die every time, it thinks it's gonna die every time.
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  It remembers the last time. And the Power Twins, Zapp and Jordan, with their magical lemur snort, dedicated Welcome back to Fumbling Their Way Through Movies, one forgotten gem at a time.
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  This week we watch the swashbuckling action-adventure from 2006, The Fall.
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  This is Fumbling Through Film.
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  My lord, all hope is lost. It seems your mighty army shall finally be conquered. Not by the Persians, but by our own greed and gluttony for water. This helmet contains our last supply. Oh king, I believe your wisdom shall save us all. Why?
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  What? Why?
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  Well, because there wasn't enough water for all of them, and it was Alexander the Great's way of showing his army that they were all equal, that
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  It's stupid.
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  What, what would you do better?
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  'Cause Alexander froze the water instead to give every soldier a little bit.
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  Hello and welcome to another one-of-a-kind, shatter-defining, brand new episode of Bubbling Through Film, the only show I guarantee dares to bring together 3 dudes to talk about movies. These aren't just any movies.
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  Maybe. Nope.
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  These are.
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  No, no.
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  The ones we've missed, overlooked, or feel are simply worth revisiting.
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  Well, that's true.
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  It's any movie. Anywho, my name is Derek and I'm a fumbler. Joining me here in the Fumbledome, the converted planetarium that we received on plea— plea— plea auction. Plea auction. Uh, and converted into a screening room of grandeur, a palatial estate almost, is the wily Prime Minister of Fumbling and Film, Keith.
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  Hey, hey, what's up KG? Uh, fumbler extraordinaire and police functioneer, part-time
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  police. Oh, you're a what?
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  Police functioneer?
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  Well, we received this other police function and Keith's police functioneer. I don't know why it became British as well, but it did.
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  It helped us get a really good deal because I got to talk to the other auctioneer and, you know, I couldn't actually do the auction myself. It's the—
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  Oh yeah, that's, that's conflict of interest.
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  Yeah,
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  Keith the Police auction.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Anyway, that other— I don't even know what he is. He's the Dr. Dre of Kansas. I do know that. He's Terry.
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  Am I a man? Am I beast? Am I ethereal? I could be anything.
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  If you're an animal, you'd snarl all the time.
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  That's true. I have a lot to snarl about, so that's true. I might be snarling, you know, whenever you guys aren't looking. I'm always snarling, so I'm trying to hide my animalistic nature as much as I can.
• 3:38
  Oh yeah, just— I would encourage you to let your animalistic nature shine, Terry.
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  Oh, okay.
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  Well, yeah, just especially during this episode, just let it all out.
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  Just let it shine.
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  All right, well, maybe, maybe I'll—
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  this little animalistic nature of mine.
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  Oh, uh, Bible school songs here, huh? Yeah, but converted to animalistic nature instead of this little light. Oh, Keith, Keith the police auctioneer.
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  I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I guess maybe that— I kind of thought maybe the reference would go over pretty easy, but thanks for the breakdown on it there.
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  Yeah, I, I don't— well, I don't know if it did. What did— Carrie, did you get the, the reference?
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  The song?
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  Do you know the song?
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  This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine.
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  Yeah.
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  Yep, I have heard that before.
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  Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, never mind.
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  It was gonna— it really soothed the savage beast. Now I'm feeling no animalistic nature.
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  Wait a minute, wasn't that the song at the end of, uh, Sinners?
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  Was it?
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  No, no, that was the song he sings at the end.
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  I think it was so—
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  oh yeah, I think that might be. Yeah.
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  And like the, the post-credit, post-credit one.
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  Yeah, I believe so.
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  Well, there you go. Maybe more people will get it than I even gave credit for. I just assumed it was like an obscure, like, uh, church Sunday school sort of thing.
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  Oh, it's back. It's back in a big way.
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  In a big way? Oh man.
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  Church Sunday school or that song? Both.
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  Probably
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  both. Probably both.
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  Well, that's exciting.
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  Yeah.
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  You know what else looks exciting?
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  What?
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  What we do here.
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  Yes.
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  We watch movies. Not just any movie. Every month, one of us chooses a theme, a genre, a guiding light, some set of rules in which we must adhere throughout the course of the month. We choose a movie adhering to those guidelines. And on the 4th week, we watch a wild card as chosen by our Wheel of Doom. This month is a me month. I Set forth it. I just said, "Hey, you need to choose a movie you've never seen before." Yes. Not just any movie you've never seen before.
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  Oh, okay.
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  I went to Reddit and I said, "Hey, Reddit, give me movies. Give me recommendations. Tell me what one of those things that like, uh, you've never seen this. You have to see this movie." So you gotta see movie you never seen before. But it has to be selected from a thread on Reddit that I created. And it conjured up lots and lots and lots of suggestions.
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  You got a lot of hits on that thing.
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  Yeah, I did. I am, I am a viral post creator. I'm going to put that on my business card.
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  Viral post creator.
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  One mildly viral post may have landed on the front page. Who knows?
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  It might've. I bet it would've. I didn't look, but I clicked on the link. Then tell me if it's on the front page, I guess. No. I see that kind of, you know, that would fit very well up there, Derek. I think you deserve it.
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  Oh, well, thank you. Thank you, Terry.
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  Let's pin it. I think we should pin it on there.
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  Can you pin it on Reddit? Can you make a global pin for someone? For all of Reddit to see?
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  Yes. No matter what subreddit you're in, that's always pinned.
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  It's a pinned post for everyone. Yeah, I think it deserves that as well. It was a good post.
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  It was a great one, yeah.
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  Anyway, all sorts of suggestions, and the one that caught my eye had a lot of people talking about it, and I'd never even heard of it prior. I was— this was what I chose this week, was The Fall from 2006. Not the Fall television show starring Gillian Anderson, and not— there's another Fall movie, not that at all.
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  Not The Fall Guy.
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  Not The Fall Guy either. This is not the TV show Fall Guy or the movie The Fall Guy.
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  This is actually the prequel to The Fall Guy in a way.
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  Yes, before— kind of, you're right, Terry. Oh, it's what The Fall Guy was based off of.
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  I bet it was.
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  Yeah, it's like we're unknown stuntmen or something like that.
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  Yeah. Anyway, I chose The Fall from 2006. Now before we talk about our viewing of The Fall from 2006, before we deep dive The Fall of 2006— The Fall of 2006, it was
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  a
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  dark
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  time. The autumnal season. Um, or actually, The Fall, it carries Terry took it like the dark.
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  Yeah, I thought that year just was destroyed. I
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  was like, man, what movies came out in 2006 in the fall? Okay.
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  No, we're going—
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  do we, any of us have any history with this movie? Do we hear about it, know about it, anything? Because I didn't.
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  I saw a post on Reddit. It wasn't pinned, but it was there.
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  I had heard nothing about this. I had no idea it existed. Um, But I did see that it got a lot of popular, um, responses from Reddit. People were really excited to see it mentioned, and I was like, wow, okay. Yeah, well, that made me excited to dive into it.
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  This definitely falls into the missed and/or overlooked category.
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  Yes, I think both. Yeah.
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  Yeah, never even heard of it. I don't even— and we'll get into why we may never heard.
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  Is that a new— is that a new addition we have to add on? It's like Missed, overlooked, or never even heard of.
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  Or simply worth revisiting. Yeah, maybe we could do that at the beginning of every one. We determine, we flag it as missed, overlooked, or simply needs revisiting.
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  Like an Outlook inbox where you can flag.
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  Oh, and then depending on what it is, I mean, like then we can like color code the monthly t-shirts. Yeah.
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  Yep. And then your spreadsheet, you could...
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  Probably. Oh yeah,
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  yeah, great idea. See if missed, overlooked, or revisited, uh, gets more votes.
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  What's the most popular of the picks?
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  Yeah. Yes. All right, well, I think now is the perfect time. I'll take you deep, deep, deeper than you could ever imagine as we jump off the bridge and fall into the water with the horse. They're all riding horses. And then the Fubblers Deep Dive.
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  Didn't they try to get that in the Olympics?
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  Yeah, horse diving.
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  Yeah,
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  yeah,
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  always into that small, tiny little, like, little small, like, bucket.
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  Comically undersized, uh, bucket of water. Yep.
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  Yeah, a lot of the horses we had to put down after that. Um, they, uh, it wasn't— it was a little too shallow.
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  Yeah, because they crappy divers.
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  Oh yeah, because skill— it was a skill issue. It wasn't because they got hurt, you know, they were just really bad.
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  Yes,
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  but sir, he runs really fast. I don't give a shit.
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  I need a diving horse, damn it.
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  We're gonna make this horse into a seahorse, dang it. Let's get this thing in there swimming. Could you imagine just like training a horse to like swim underwater and you can like buckle yourself into it and it just like swims as you're like— I don't know, that'd be kind of cool.
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  Could you imagine riding a seahorse like Aquaman?
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  Oh yeah, that'd be awesome.
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  That would be cool. But yeah, could you imagine riding a seahorse as it like crawls on the sand and you're just like training it to— oh,
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  like a seahorse out of water? Yeah,
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  yeah,
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  just flop it around. Oh, that's like riding the bull at the bar. It's riding a seahorse on the sand.
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  That's good luck reining that thing in. Yeah,
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  yeah.
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  That's gonna be flopping like crazy. You ever try to— yeah, like you see those fish flopping around when they get outta the water? That's just how a seahorse is, but 10 times worse.
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  Yeah.
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  But now I'm also picturing like, um, like we had, uh, like one of the Triple Crown horses and he, he just didn't work out for us diving.
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  Yeah. It's like one of the best running horses of all time, but we're trying to use it for diving instead.
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  What if we were diving with the best, one of the best running horses of all time? We didn't know it was the best runner cuz we used it for diving. No, we're just bad horse owners.
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  I wouldn't say we're bad horse owners. We're like innovative horse owners.
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  But we, but when we get a good diving horse, man, we get to put that thing out to stud, make some big money.
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  Yeah, that horse.
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  When we get one, we still haven't gotten one yet. We have
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  thousands of horses, you know. Yeah, they're cheap at the police auction also though.
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  So surprised we keep getting funding to keep trying to get these diving horses.
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  But
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  these business rich businessmen really want this for some reason.
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  See, it's, it's the Prime example of how they have more money than they could possibly know what to do with. They're funding horse diving.
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  Yeah. Well, they think it's going to be really hip with like the next generation of children.
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  Oh, yes.
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  There's a lot more water during, uh, after climate change. Yeah.
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  Once the Arctic's—
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  Diving takes over, uh, we'll need diving horses.
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  Yeah. We'll need them. Guaranteed. I'm not— oh God, now I'm scared. Okay. We have— sorry.
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  I'm scared that we don't have enough diving horses. All right. Anyway.
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  Fate of the world's in our hands, I think.
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  Yes,
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  it always is.
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  That's what I was about ready to say. Anyways, The Fall. This son of a bitch was presented by David Fincher and Spike Jonze.
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  Oh yeah,
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  the film premiered at the 2006 Toronto International Film Festival before finally being released in the United States on May 9th, 2008.
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  I found that to be, uh, a good seal of approval right off the bat.
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  Oh, we'll wait till we get to the fun facts.
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  Oh,
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  this film was made on a $30 million budget, opened to $79,000 at 9 theaters in the United States, had a final total domestic run of $2.5 million, and finished with $3.984 worldwide.
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  Hmm.
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  It's rated R, has an hour and 57-minute runtime. In 1920s Los Angeles, a bedridden patient in a hospital captivates a young girl with a fantastic tale of heroes, myths, and villains on a desert island. It gets a 7.8 on IMDb and a 64% on Rotten Tomatoes, which is weird because usually Rotten Tomatoes is higher than IMDb.
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  That is weird. Yeah.
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  It was directed by Tarsem Singh, and he was also one of the 3 writers. He has 24 directing credits going back to 1990, starting with music videos, most notably En Vogue's Hold On and R.E.M., Losing My Religion.
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  Oh,
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  he did some Pepsi commercials and some short/short films. His feature debut was in 2000 with The Cell, starring J.Lo and Vincent D'Onofrio.
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  Interesting.
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  Yep. Other features he did like Dear Jassy, Self/less, Mirror Mirror. But in 2011, he directed Immortals. Oh yeah. Theseus is a mortal man chosen by Zeus to lead the fight against the ruthless King Hyperion, who is on a rampage across Greece to obtain a weapon that can destroy humanity. Stars Henry Cavill as Theseus, Mickey Rourke as King Hyperion, and Stephen Dorff as Stavros.
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  I feel like I remember this. This was a thing that came out.
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  Yeah, I actually think I saw it in the theater.
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  I never, I don't know if I ever heard of this movie. And after watching this movie and realizing he did The Cell, I really want to see it.
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  Yeah, I want to see that too.
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  Just because of the visual nature. I bet you it's wild.
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  I
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  hope it is.
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  It's gotta be.
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  Gotta be. This movie has 3 writers: Dan Gilroy, Nico Sultanakis, and Tarun Singh. We just talked about Dan Gilroy. His brother is Tony Gilroy, creator of Andor. which Dan wrote 6 episodes of. He also wrote— he wrote some bangers: Two for the Money, Real Steel, The Bourne Legacy, Nightcrawler, King Kong: Skull Island.
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  Oh,
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  but in 2019, he wrote and directed Velvet Buzzsaw.
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  Oh,
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  is that bad?
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  My friends just were telling me about this movie and how much they hated it.
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  Really? Because I've seen it. I've seen— watched the trailer many times on Netflix but have never committed. A thriller about the contemporary art scene of Los Angeles where big money artists and mega collectors pay a high price when art collides with commerce. Stars Jake Gyllenhaal, Ray Russo, and Zawe Ashton, amongst others.
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  I remember thinking— I think I remember when it was like came out, there's a little bit of buzz about it, but then I kind of forgot about it. A little bit of buzzsaw about it. Yeah.
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  Oh boy. Look at that.
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  This movie was also written by Nikos Soltanakis. Soltanakis, yes. He has 3 writing credits, a video called Wanderlust and a short called Nostalgia, plus this. He was a producer in all of Tarsem Singh's movies, and he was the director of some music videos. Nothing much of note. The movie stars Katinsa Untaru. I think that's how you pronounce her first name. as Alexandria. She's been in 3 acting roles, this and some shorts. The Fall being her first and biggest. She was also in a short called The Dowry and another short called Katya and the Scarlet Sails, where she plays the younger version of the titular Katya. A girl struggling to find love seeks out her high school teacher who first made her a hopeless romantic. Written and directed by— Vika Evdokimenko, which I was like, oh, I gotta find out what this person did. Vika Evdokimenko is a BAFTA-nominated British filmmaker with Jewish-Ukrainian roots. She is known for socially conscious films and explore themes of human rights, migration, and identity. She does mostly shorts as well, uh, shorts like Truth Serum, I Don't Need Adult Conversation, Amir and Snapper McGee's.
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  Oh, I like the sound of that.
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  Yeah, I bet you they're all good too, or at least provoking, thought-provoking maybe.
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  I didn't realize I gave her the approval to do my memoir.
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  What, Snapper McGee?
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  Snapper McGee is your memoir?
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  No, the other one. I, I don't need adult conversation.
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  Oh, I don't need adult conversation.
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  I wish your memoir was Snapper McGee's. That would make— yeah, that would— that's a name that would catch anyone's attention.
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  Yes.
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  That's my, that's my nom de plume.
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  Snapper McGee?
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  Yep.
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  The thing I'm surprised by and ultimately disappointed about is that she's not in any other movies. Katinka and Taro.
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  Yeah. She did really good in this.
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  She was really good in this movie.
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  Yeah.
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  Especially as a, for a child actor who did not speak English. English was not her first language.
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  No. Yeah. She did really well. I'm surprised that she hasn't been cast in other stuff.
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  Yeah, maybe she just doesn't want to do it, I guess. I don't know, which is possible. All right, this movie also starred Justine Waddell as Nurse— Nurse, gosh bless it— Nurse Evelyn slash Sister Evelyn. She has 18 acting credits in film and TV going back to 1997, such things as Killing Bono 3.
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  Not Bono.
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  Yeah, that's what it says. Uh, 3 spelled with the number 3 in place of the first E. Chaos Mansfield Park. But in 2000, she played Mary Heller in Dracula 2001.
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  Oh.
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  Listen to this logline: Dracula slakes his bloodthirst and renews his search for love in New Orleans. Before you go, slake, what does that mean? Slake means to quench.
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  So instead, I thought you said that wrong.
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  Yeah, I just assumed you said something wrong. I was just like, I will roll.
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  Yeah, I have to let you go.
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  Yeah. Nope. It— that's— that's— I'm like, is this a typo? Should it be steak? Nope, it's slake. It means to quench. Instead of saying quench his bloodthirst, he says slakes.
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  I feel like quench just sounds better. Why wouldn't it? It
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  does. Slakes sounds like it's made up. Anyway,
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  this movie sounds like somebody was just trying to be cool one day. I agree.
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  It was word of the day on their, like, calendar or something.
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  Word of the
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  day, slakes to quench.
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  It's basically Dracula in New Orleans. Is that the idea?
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  Is that what it is? It stars Gerard Butler, Christopher Plummer, and Jonny Lee Miller.
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  Oh, which one plays Dracula?
• 19:57
  I don't know, I didn't go that far.
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  Okay,
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  I'll be honest, that's weird. I've never heard of that movie either, and that's got some big-name people in it.
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  Dracula 2000.
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  2001.
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  Oh, Dracula 2001. Okay.
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  Well, that's why I've never heard of it. That makes sense.
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  Gerard Butler does play Dracula.
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  I guess it is 2000. Why did it say 2001?
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  I don't know.
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  I guess that— and that would be, that would be a pre-300 Gerard Butler as well then, right?
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  Oh no, when I click on Dracula 2000 IMDb, it goes to Dracula 2001. original title, Dracula 2000.
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  What the heck? Are they just gonna release this every year, just change the name slightly?
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  Like, Dracula came out in 2000. I don't understand.
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  Well, if it's a Dracula movie, you know, we all love Dracula. I bet it's pretty good.
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  I'm sure it's great. Vitamin C is in it. Terry, Terry, do you know what vitamin C is?
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  What is that?
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  Oh my
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  God, the rapper.
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  No, she was a singer in the '90s. Who, who did a song. Oh God, and I hate when people do this. She made a song specifically for people graduating high school.
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  Oh, and they just play it at every graduation?
• 21:19
  Yes. I can't think of the name of the song, but I'm looking it up right now. It's called, called, called Graduation, Friends Forever.
• 21:27
  Graduation, Friends Forever. I probably heard this at my graduation, I bet.
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  I'm sure. I'm— you, you will know the song when you hear it. I guarantee it. But she made a song specifically for teenage kids to feel nostalgic about 4 years that they are just exiting. I hate it. I hate when people do that.
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  They write something for a specific thing so they can— they're just— they're gonna make— that's like their whole money is gonna be made off that one thing because it's like—
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  That's all she's made money off of, that and I guess Dracula 2000. Well, yeah, 2001.
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  I'm sure she made a big paycheck off that.
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  More than likely. I hope so.
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  You throw Dracula on anything, it's gonna—
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  it's gold.
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  Dracula. Dracula Graduation.
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  Oh,
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  now that's—
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  I bet you that would be a— that'd be a cool movie.
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  Dracula graduates high school.
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  Yeah. Or like—
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  watch that.
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  Or like Dracula School.
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  Oh, Dracula School. Now, all right, so we got Uh, uh, with sewer cannibals, Vasekonda, and, uh, Dracula School.
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  A school for Draculas.
• 22:35
  Mm-hmm. Every Dracula has to come to the school and they can't— they're not allowed to keep the name if they don't graduate.
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  Yes. The stuffy old dean is the original.
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  Yes.
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  Uh, Vlad the Impaler.
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  Yes. He's— you imagine like the teacher's like calls on one of the students like, hey, Dracula. And then they all go like, yes. School
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  full of Draculas,
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  and you could see all the different versions of him. That was a great idea. Like, you got like the, like, uh, you know, Bela Lugosi's probably— yeah, he's the headmaster or something. And then what's the guy who played it, um, in Bram Stoker's Dracula? Who was that?
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  Oh, Gary Oldman.
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  Yeah, get him in there in his big robes and stuff. Oh my gosh.
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  Are we, are we going, are we going, uh, across the Draculaverse? Yeah, really off the coast.
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  All the Draculas. Yeah,
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  and
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  they get the one from Nosferatu with—
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  oh God, he's like the weirdo that nobody—
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  big mustache and standing in the corner.
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  He's just nude in the corner. Yeah,
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  welcome to class.
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  You keep telling him to put his pants on, but he won't listen.
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  All right,
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  they all like the same girl too. Oh, that would be so awkward.
• 23:48
  There's one, there's one Mina in town, right? Like, yeah, they're all going for her. Dracula U is in a small town.
• 23:58
  Oh my God, and she just comes to— she's new to town.
• 24:01
  Yep,
• 24:02
  yep. And that just sets the whole thing off.
• 24:04
  It's not even a love triangle, it's like a love, like, 100, whatever that is. Like, there's 100 Draculas going for her.
• 24:13
  The thing that I—
• 24:14
  she's the reincarnation of my lost lover. Me too. Weird. Me too.
• 24:18
  Weird.
• 24:18
  So strange. I love the idea of like a small town that is, is propped up by a university. And so like during the summer there's not as many people around, but when school's in session there's lots of Draculas.
• 24:33
  The nightlife is crazy once they get there. You wonder—
• 24:37
  This town wouldn't even have a Walmart if it weren't for all those Draculas here.
• 24:40
  Yes, they keep the economy going. Yeah, the population down because a lot of people go missing every time Dracula is in session.
• 24:51
  And obviously we get a, we get a whole franchise going because then you get like, like, uh, Werewolf U and—
• 24:57
  Oh, the rival universities, rival monsters.
• 25:00
  Oh yeah, they have to play like football against each other or something.
• 25:03
  I would not want to play against Frankenstein U.
• 25:05
  No, no, Frankenstein Technical Institute.
• 25:08
  Yes, the FTI.
• 25:10
  Mm-hmm.
• 25:11
  FTI. Yes. Okay, I'm there for that.
• 25:15
  This movie also has Lee Pace in it as Roy Walker slash the Masked Bandit. He has 45 acting credits in TV and film dating back to 2002. He was in an episode of Law and Order: SVU. He was Ronan the Accuser in Guardians of the Galaxy and Captain Marvel. He played, uh, Thranduil in all of The Hobbit movies. He was in Marmaduke. Oh, Lincoln, Revolt, The Book of Henry. But in 2022, he played Greg in Bodies, Bodies, Bodies.
• 25:53
  Oh, cool.
• 25:54
  When a group of rich 20-somethings plan a hurricane party at a remote family mansion, a party game turns deadly. Starring Amandla Stenberg, Maria Bakalova, Maya Hawke, Pete Davidson, and Rachel Sennott.
• 26:11
  I remember enjoying that one. I thought that one was pretty decent.
• 26:14
  Cool. I never heard of it, but the name made me go, hey, I heard of it.
• 26:19
  I think because I saw Pete Davidson was in that, I probably shied away from it.
• 26:23
  That's a good possibility. Makes sense. You guys ready for some The Fall fun facts?
• 26:29
  Yes.
• 26:29
  Drop them on us.
• 26:30
  It's the time of year where the leaves change. That's one fun fact.
• 26:34
  Yes, it is. It gets cooler in the northern hemisphere. All right, this is my favorite fun fact of them all, maybe of all the fun facts we've ever funned. This film was shot in 28 countries over the course of 4 years.
• 26:49
  Holy cow.
• 26:51
  According to the director, no stages or sets were ever used. Only existing locations.
• 26:57
  Really?
• 26:58
  Yes.
• 26:59
  What? How?
• 27:01
  So they blew that building up? They blew that building up regardless? Yeah. Okay.
• 27:06
  They didn't, they didn't use sets at all?
• 27:08
  No sets. All on location.
• 27:10
  I can't believe— that's insane.
• 27:12
  I could see that. Obviously, without the one thing that, you know, that they demolished, like, a lot of the rest of it is very open areas and stuff like that.
• 27:20
  Yes.
• 27:21
  That's actually pretty cool.
• 27:22
  It's very cool. Darwin's monkey Wallace is a reference to the naturalist Alfred Russel Wallace, who independently developed the idea of natural selection.
• 27:33
  Oh,
• 27:34
  Darwin and Wallace presented the theory together, but due to the publication of On the Origin of Species, Darwin usually gets sole credit for the theory. The scene on Butterfly Island when Darling closes Wallace in the sack and says, we— I have an idea, alludes to him taking sole credit for ideas that were not completely his own.
• 27:55
  That makes sense.
• 27:55
  Mm-hmm.
• 27:57
  Yeah, I like that. That— I didn't realize that Wallace was actually—
• 27:59
  I did not know that either. I
• 28:00
  thought it was just a funny, weird joke, but
• 28:02
  I agree.
• 28:04
  Okay.
• 28:04
  One of the significant plot developments, Alexandra's misinterpreting the letter E as the number 3 in a note written by Roy, was derived from an accidental misreading by the 6-year-old actress during filming. Which the director then realized he could adapt. He could adapt into a clever twist in the story. So
• 28:25
  interesting. Okay.
• 28:27
  Singh shot the hospital scenes with Katinka Unturu in chronological order. As filming progressed over the course of several weeks, she grew taller and her English improved like her character would have in real life. She also lost her two front baby teeth right before shooting began. So filming in sequence allowed for the continuity of the gap between her teeth to remain consistent, as opposed to her teeth growing in and having teeth and not having teeth back and forth, I guess.
• 28:55
  I see. Makes sense. Yeah, that'd be tricky to kind of film around that.
• 28:59
  Yeah. According to his Facebook profile in a post, Peter Jackson decided to cast Lee Pace as King Thranduil in The Hobbit trilogy after seeing his performance in this movie.
• 29:10
  Wow. Okay. That's cool. Makes sense, I guess. I don't know who King Thrain duel.
• 29:16
  I don't think— I think it was one of the dwarves.
• 29:20
  Oh, okay. Well,
• 29:22
  if I'm not mistaken, he's in all 3 of them. I did not like those movies at all. So it's—
• 29:29
  I only seen the first one and the third one. So I don't know.
• 29:31
  The second one was the best of them all though.
• 29:34
  Oh,
• 29:36
  the third one is terrible.
• 29:38
  Third one was bad. I was so confused watching that.
• 29:40
  It was that good.
• 29:41
  Second one with, um,
• 29:43
  Smaug.
• 29:43
  Yeah. And, uh, what's his name? Cumberbatch voiced him.
• 29:46
  Yeah. Sherlock is Smaug.
• 29:49
  Sherlock. Yes. I like, you know, it's kind of cool. He plays a dragon. Have you seen that video of him in the, the mocap suit doing the dragon stuff? It's kind of interesting.
• 30:00
  I— there's no way they used any of that.
• 30:04
  Yeah, it was just for fun. Like, yeah, well, why would they do that? Like, he doesn't— he's walking around this, he's not a lizard.
• 30:11
  Yeah, he's, he's not a dragon or even lizard-like, right?
• 30:16
  Like, yeah, he's not lizard-like at all.
• 30:18
  No, it's because of Gollum in the first— in the other ones, and they wanted to— they wanted to ride that sort of idea, I guess. I don't
• 30:27
  know. Gollum's human-like though, you know. Well, whatever. The apes— well, apes are human-like too, I guess.
• 30:34
  Yes, they are. Smaugs are not.
• 30:37
  No, Smaugs are not human-like. They speak human, but they don't—
• 30:42
  yeah,
• 30:43
  act human.
• 30:43
  They hoard wealth much like rich humans.
• 30:46
  That is human.
• 30:46
  Yes.
• 30:47
  You know what, maybe Smaug is more human than I give him credit for.
• 30:50
  Yeah, he's willing to destroy everything to keep his money. It makes sense.
• 30:54
  Makes sense. You know what? I kind of like Smaug now. He's relatable. Could be worse.
• 30:59
  Yes. The cinematic poster for this movie is based on the Salvador Dalí painting. I never knew it was called this. 1935_03_Face of Mae West, which may be used in this department, circa 1935. I'm guessing that is just, that's like a bringing in of information from a database incorrectly. 19— I think that's just called Face of Mae West, Which Can Be Used as an Apartment, from the year 1935, is my guess.
• 31:32
  Yeah, that must be a typo. I don't know, he's got some weird names for his paintings, but not that weird usually.
• 31:38
  Do you think he used modern computer sort of naming convention?
• 31:44
  No, I'd feel like he probably didn't. Like 1935?
• 31:48
  But what if he did? What if he did name it that and he's like the father of modern computer naming convention.
• 31:54
  He might be. Dalí was a very innovative guy too, you know. Yeah, I went to the Salvador Dalí Museum in Florida. It was very interesting.
• 32:03
  Was it?
• 32:04
  You know, it was weird, they had the AI like conjuration of him.
• 32:08
  Oh,
• 32:09
  I thought that was strange. I was like, okay, I don't know if he would like that, but I don't know, maybe he would. He might think it was cool.
• 32:17
  So it's not— there's no underscores in the name. It's just called Face, Mae West Face, Which May Be Used as a Surrealist Apartment by Salvador Dalí.
• 32:26
  I like it. I'm looking at it now. It does look just like the poster.
• 32:30
  Yeah, the red mask. Yeah, for sure. It's very cool.
• 32:34
  This is a weird-ass name for a painting though.
• 32:36
  Agreed.
• 32:37
  Yeah.
• 32:38
  While trying to get financing for the film, Tarsum Singh put together a small memory box which, like Alexandria, had used it as a tool during pitch meetings. Do you remember that box much in the movie? It's at the end, right?
• 32:51
  Oh, the one she's holding?
• 32:53
  She's carrying it with her the entire thing.
• 32:55
  The little box she opens at the beginning. Yeah, she's always got that with her. She doesn't open it very often, but she's—
• 33:01
  Oh yeah, I don't remember her like interacting with the box until the end when she puts the teeth or pulls the teeth out of it.
• 33:06
  Nope, she, she shows the guy at the beginning.
• 33:08
  Yeah, yeah, she shows him some of the pictures of like her, uh, oh yeah, yeah, her family and stuff like that in there and A few other random things that are in there.
• 33:15
  An elephant or something was in there, I think.
• 33:17
  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 33:19
  yeah.
• 33:20
  All right, calling back to the original thing I said about David Fincher and Spike Jonze, though David Fincher and Spike Jonze are credited as presenting the film, they actually had nothing to do with the production beyond leaving their names to it.
• 33:32
  Wow.
• 33:33
  They said, yeah, you can put our names on it, that's cool.
• 33:36
  Wow. Well,
• 33:37
  beyond that, they had nothing to do with the movie at all.
• 33:39
  It's nice of them to do so. I feel like this is kind of a Spike Jonze-esque movie.
• 33:44
  It lends itself like some weird credibility. You're like, oh, these two guys presented it.
• 33:49
  That's why I assume is that those two guys watched it and they were like, hell, this is pretty cool. And they were like, do you guys want to present it and put your name on it? And they're like, yeah, why not? Sure.
• 34:00
  Yeah. This movie is inspired by the Bulgarian movie Yo Ho Ho from 1981.
• 34:06
  Okay, I've never heard of that.
• 34:08
  No, me neither. I can't, I can't think of a single Bulgarian movie I've like, I guess, watched. I think it's readily
• 34:16
  available. Yo ho ho!
• 34:18
  I doubt it. Maybe
• 34:20
  this— wow, the synopsis is similar. A 10-year-old boy with a broken arm befriends a young paraplegic actor in the hospital. Together, the two make up a pirate story in which they play the main roles.
• 34:32
  Okay, so it's like a remake.
• 34:33
  I guess it is. Hmm, that's kind of interesting.
• 34:38
  Tarsem stated to Empire Magazine that story writing took 20 years and location scouting 17 years.
• 34:45
  Wow,
• 34:46
  the fuck?
• 34:46
  It's a long time.
• 34:48
  He's been
• 34:49
  planning, especially for something that's clearly a remake. Yeah, 20 years to rewrite it. I don't know.
• 34:57
  I don't even know how he watched this Yo Ho Ho movie. I'm like, there's like 320 reviews on IMDb. That's it. I'm like, where did he watch this thing?
• 35:05
  Oh, he's probably— he's got— he's got a DVD of it.
• 35:07
  He probably got an original print of it.
• 35:09
  He's got a LaserDisc.
• 35:12
  Yep.
• 35:12
  Or he borrowed it from like Quentin Tarantino or something like that.
• 35:16
  Oh, or Scorsese. Scorsese is the film preservation.
• 35:19
  It was like you, Derek. He knows a guy that used to work with— he would just have a hand in strange DVDs or put it
• 35:25
  onto a VHS tape. VHA. Why cannot talk? VHS tape. Here, you'll like this. This film's title is in reference to stuntman Roy Walker's accident. He temporarily lost his ability to walk after a dangerous fall that occurred while shooting a movie. The film contains numerous references to classic Hollywood and dangerous stunt work. So it's based on a true story as well. And then final fun fact, while Roy is the main protagonist, He has less screen time than Alexandria.
• 35:58
  I would not call him the main protagonist.
• 36:01
  Oh, there's another fun fact that refutes your statement there, Terry.
• 36:06
  Uh-oh.
• 36:06
  It was— this is the one I didn't want to put on there, but I'm going to do it anyway. Some fans believe that Alexandria is the main protagonist as she has more scenes than Roy and the film is told largely from her viewpoint. Yeah. It's got an actually on here. In actuality, she's the deuteragonist and second in importance to the main, true main protagonist, Roy Walton.
• 36:33
  Wow. Who's ranking this?
• 36:34
  I don't know. I gotta Google deuteragonist.
• 36:37
  The second most important protagonist?
• 36:41
  The person second in importance to the protagonist in a drama.
• 36:44
  Boo. What is the— According to whom?
• 36:47
  Very pedantic. I don't know, this person who put that fun fact in.
• 36:52
  In actuality, actually, she's not the most important character even though she's got the most screen time. Yeah, whatever. I could see the argument both ways, but to me it's like, it's— the movie is around her perspective. This guy is like the mentor character, kind of, you know? I don't know. Well, look, I don't know. I'm not a narrative expert, but to me it gets very debatable. It's not just the, duh, obviously this guy's the main character, you idiot.
• 37:20
  The movie opens with her and closes with her.
• 37:23
  Yes.
• 37:24
  The movie's about her.
• 37:25
  Yeah, it's about her. And then, I mean, the guy changes for sure, you know, he goes— but he— but yeah, I don't know, whatever, it's fine, it's not a big deal. This guy can say whatever he wants, it's fine.
• 37:36
  All right, boys, we did it. We got really goddamn close to the fall.
• 37:40
  That was close. We fell so close to that.
• 37:43
  Dangerously close. Yes, we plummeted, plummeted down.
• 37:46
  Thank God we were on those horses. The horses may have touched it, but we just got close.
• 37:50
  I jumped off the horse right before he hit the ground and I saved my life.
• 37:54
  It's like jumping on an elevator before it hits.
• 37:56
  Yep.
• 37:57
  That's kind of the main purpose of diving a horse, honestly. It's like Yoshi, Yoshi and Mario, where he used it to get to a higher jump.
• 38:06
  Yep. I need to get to that platform. I'm diving off a horse and jumping off the horse right as it starts to dive.
• 38:12
  Sorry, Seabiscuit, you gotta go.
• 38:14
  Yep. And if I do like a spinny jump, I can like kind of propel myself like a helicopter a little bit.
• 38:20
  Oh yeah, or if I got a little cape, I can kind of like bubble myself up and float around.
• 38:24
  Or if I had a tail, I could flip it. Kind of like semi-fly. That's what I would do.
• 38:31
  Yeah, very haphazard.
• 38:33
  Yeah, I need my tanuki tail.
• 38:35
  Yeah, I don't leave home without that thing.
• 38:40
  I, I never leave home without my tanuki. I just have one. I have a, I have a Japanese raccoon.
• 38:45
  You do?
• 38:46
  Yes.
• 38:47
  Oh, they, uh, they used to have, um, a pair of them at the Atlanta Zoo.
• 38:52
  Really?
• 38:52
  Yeah.
• 38:53
  Now there's only one because Derek stole it.
• 38:55
  No, they got, they got old. They got old and died. Um, but, uh, I remember when I, when we first went to the zoo and I saw them. I stopped. I was like, wait a minute, those are real?
• 39:06
  They are. They're not red pandas. They are tanukis. They're like—
• 39:10
  Yeah, they're mischievous, if I remember correctly.
• 39:13
  Yeah, they're goddamn mischievous.
• 39:16
  You're having one of those, that's kind of dangerous. That thing's probably playing pranks on you all the time.
• 39:20
  Constantly. And it's rabid too, so—
• 39:23
  Yeah. Oh
• 39:23
  God, that is—
• 39:26
  that's the prank of all pranks right there.
• 39:27
  Yes. Yeah, I have to keep my distance. Oh gosh, I don't get the ultimate prank.
• 39:32
  Yeah, gotcha, gotcha. You got rabies now.
• 39:37
  Oh, Tanuki! And I didn't give it a name. I just called Tanuki.
• 39:41
  He's like Tanuki's got his own TikTok, and he's like filming like watch this. I just just drooled all over Derek's glass of water. He's gonna drink it.
• 39:51
  Yeah, I think the zoos were named Thor and Loki.
• 39:55
  Thor and Loki, the Tanukis.
• 39:58
  Yep. Cool.
• 39:59
  All right, let's talk about. The fall.
• 40:04
  We should talk about it. I
• 40:05
  think we should. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna just go out.
• 40:10
  This would make us another groundbreaking thing of a podcast if we just never talked about the movie. Well, if we never—
• 40:15
  we've talked about a lot of shit this episode. I got— I'm debating as we talk, like, is this gonna make the cut or not?
• 40:20
  Oh, it'll all make it. It's all gold.
• 40:23
  I don't know. Horse diving.
• 40:26
  Horse diving needs to stay in. That's, that's—
• 40:29
  dude, lockpicking gets talked about like every other episode. Please leave in horse diving. Come on.
• 40:33
  Yeah, we'll see. We'll see what happens.
• 40:35
  Future Derek will decide this. Um, but yeah, this movie is very interesting. I can't believe I've never heard of it before because it's got a lot going for it.
• 40:44
  It's got a lot going for it. I— the visuals in this movie are outstanding.
• 40:50
  Yes, the colors. It's like so like vibrant. This whole movie is so much color and all the stories and stuff. Like every like main character has their own like color scheme going on.
• 41:00
  Yes.
• 41:01
  It just—
• 41:02
  yeah,
• 41:03
  it just looks so cool. Like, it does. I love the visuals.
• 41:05
  I love the visuals too. And it starts— it bookends with black and white too. It starts with black and white.
• 41:11
  Yeah,
• 41:12
  just like slow-mo horse off a bridge, man in the water.
• 41:16
  You know, I actually really liked how they did that because it was— and that was over like the credits as well. Because I was like, when I went to start, I was like, okay, so this guy gets injured. So obviously like the first 15 minutes or something we're gonna see is him getting injured. No, they summarized everything that happened in this nice little black and white segment with the credits rolling. It was very nice. And yeah, and then at the end they kind of start to show you like, you know, they give you like a whole like, uh, what, epilogue nicely, you know, right after that. And it's all done very nicely with all that.
• 41:47
  The end is made to look like classic Hollywood movies, and some of them were actual clips from Hollywood movies, Buster Keaton and stuff like that.
• 41:54
  I think what's interesting is, yeah, it's like The beginning is like quote unquote what actually happened. The, you know, the story he's telling in the mid— during the whole movie with like the vibrant colors and stuff is like the imagination. So, you know, like you can just think this stuff up. And then at the end, it's kind of like shows you like, well, here's the finished product of the movie at the time. And it's kind of this like janky, like, you know, black and white thing. You're like, oh wow. Even the one guy's like, that's it?
• 42:19
  That's it? That was the big stunt? Like, you see him jumping off the bridge and then you see him like Half landing on a horse to like ride away.
• 42:26
  Yes.
• 42:27
  And that was it. They didn't show anything in between. So like the rest of the stunt was, was pointless because like he could have jumped off onto anything. He could have not even jumped.
• 42:37
  Some guy could have been on a ladder and just dropped him like, you know, a few feet and landed on the horse. And yeah, because they
• 42:42
  didn't even like show him like in the air landing on the horse. It was like more just like kind of like falling into the seat a little bit.
• 42:48
  Sure, he could just like kind of jumped and then like, yeah.
• 42:52
  They could have showed him like getting ready to jump and then show it cut to him just like falling into the seat, and that would have been it.
• 42:57
  And also, I thought the whole setup was that he was on the horse and it jumped off the train track.
• 43:04
  I thought that's what it was too,
• 43:06
  because they take— they pull the horse out of the water,
• 43:09
  and I wonder if that's what it was.
• 43:10
  I'm wondering, did he jump off and like maybe however he hit the horse, it, it caused the horse to lose its balance and fall in or something?
• 43:19
  I don't know.
• 43:21
  I think maybe they filmed it as him jumping off with the horse, and then it went wrong, and then they ended up just doing their own thing with it.
• 43:28
  Yeah, like all the work got scrapped.
• 43:30
  Yeah, because he said they didn't even use it when that the actor was talking about it. He's like, "Oh wow, we didn't even use it." Like yeah, which is kind of a bummer for that guy. He did all that, and then not even used. But
• 43:40
  whatever. Derek, I thought when you were going through the fun facts, you were gonna say that this movie was somewhat inspired by. Like The Princess Bride.
• 43:48
  Oh, I skipped over that fun fact, but hold on, I'll go back to it.
• 43:52
  Oh, there is a fun fact about it.
• 43:55
  The Princess Bride, The Wizard of Oz, and Baraka served as inspiration for the film.
• 44:00
  Okay, so that's the other thing. I was thinking The Wizard of Oz too, because as you go through, like, every character in his story is just— is somebody,
• 44:07
  somebody from the hospital, because it's all her imagination.
• 44:09
  Yes.
• 44:10
  Yeah, and those are basically the only people she really knows.
• 44:13
  Yes. And I was really thinking Baraka from Mortal Kombat, you know, the knives coming from his wrists.
• 44:18
  Yes. With the big sharp teeth.
• 44:20
  And
• 44:22
  that's why I was kind of being a little bit sarcastic about the Princess Bride thing, but it is very much the same where like he'll stop and say something and then she kept getting pissed. Like, why are you stopping it right now?
• 44:31
  You hear them both. Their real-time talking is in the actual story part. And then Spider changes the story part. Yeah, yeah,
• 44:40
  it's starting to influence what's going on. Yeah, with their little conversations.
• 44:44
  What about the bomb? Uh,
• 44:46
  oh yeah, and he just shoots the bomb, shoots the fuse out of the bomb. So like, all that is really, really cool. I really enjoyed that. And like The Wizard of Oz, the, uh, like you said, Terry, the people, people that she knows being in the story, right? Her visualization story. And it wasn't in— we're watching it Or I'm, I'm watching it and he keeps saying this like squaw, this Indian and a squaw. I'm like, those are very American terms, right? And I really— and I— and it, it, it took a minute to click. I'm like, oh, she's from India. He says Indian, so— but she thinks of India.
• 45:24
  Ah, gotcha.
• 45:25
  Right? And he keeps calling the squaw like the pretty squaw and the teepee or the hut or whatever. Yes. It's him being American dumbass and her being from India, right?
• 45:37
  And then we see that when they show the movie at the end.
• 45:40
  Yeah, he's thinking like Western, like Native American, like that kind of thing. Yeah,
• 45:44
  yeah.
• 45:45
  And he's got like the dynamite guy, you know, like, yeah, he's like envisioning like the—
• 45:48
  Yeah, like a Western.
• 45:50
  Yeah, exactly. Like when you think about it, like this movie would fit perfectly, like those characters are like perfect for like a Western movie as well. Yeah,
• 45:58
  well, it almost sounds like he's just telling her The movie that he was shooting when he got hurt.
• 46:03
  Yes, that's very well could have been.
• 46:05
  Yeah.
• 46:06
  And then adding a little storyline about his girlfriend getting stolen away by the lead actor and really messing his life up. Yeah.
• 46:13
  And and then it made me wonder, was that did that stunt go awry because he was trying to kill himself on set?
• 46:20
  Uh, I think so.
• 46:22
  Yeah, I think that's kind of.
• 46:23
  I think that's what happened. Yeah.
• 46:25
  I think that was the intent too.
• 46:26
  Oh, everyone thought he was trying to impress her, but really he was just like. Yeah, I'm done with this.
• 46:31
  Yeah.
• 46:31
  Yeah. Um, there's one, there's one scene in this and then I didn't, and yeah, I noticed it and I, I didn't get a chance to go back and look, but there is one scene like that, like priest guy.
• 46:44
  Yes.
• 46:45
  Mm-hmm.
• 46:45
  That they have. And there's a thing where they show him say something. They're like, oh, the priest betrayed him. And it was like him.
• 46:51
  Yes.
• 46:51
  And it's a close-up on him. And as soon as they leave away, the sand,
• 46:54
  it transitions into the desert. I wrote that down. That's the only thing I wrote down is a talking point. 'Cause it's like the stony-faced priest had betrayed them. And he's got this big— it's at the wedding. He's got this big grin on his face, and then it transitions. The eyes are like these 2 rock outlets in the desert, and then there's— that's where they're being tortured. It was one of the most amazing transitions I've ever seen.
• 47:15
  It was like, hurt my brain. I was like, whoa.
• 47:17
  It was awesome. It was so good.
• 47:20
  And then I was like, did I miss a bunch of these? Like, does he do this a lot?
• 47:24
  There probably was a lot, but that one was just like so— slap you in the face with his awesomeness.
• 47:30
  Because like wherever, like what, like the, the part where they were all like, you know, chained up and stuff like that as well looked like the collar, like the priest-like collar thing that was there. I was like, I rewound it, I'm like, wait a minute, that looks— hold on a second. Yeah, that looks way too much like what I just saw.
• 47:46
  It's very cool. It's very cool transition.
• 47:50
  Yes.
• 47:50
  Yeah, so I mean, visually this movie is During the storytelling parts and everything is is very very good.
• 47:57
  It's outstanding, and
• 47:58
  it's and it's the strong part of the of the whole thing. I don't know. I thought maybe this movie was a was a bit too long at times. There's a couple things that don't make sense. Like the thing like and I understand like he's trying to get the pills or whatever, but like there's a whole thing with the other guy. Like they're just feeding you sugar.
• 48:15
  I like that. I like
• 48:15
  I like that too.
• 48:17
  But like I'm like he just yells at him about that and like. Okay, I get like there's nothing else to that part of it. Okay,
• 48:23
  he's mad because he it didn't work.
• 48:24
  Why did he try to kill himself?
• 48:26
  No, why were they feeding the other guy sugar pills?
• 48:28
  Because he's got that's his his mental issue is that he thinks he's always sick. You see him talking to the doctor all the time. It's like I want you to treat me. Nobody else believes me. There's something wrong with me. That's his whole problem. They're like he's just got that weird mental issue where he thinks he's always sick.
• 48:43
  Meanwhile, he he ate all the sugar pills and then had a sugar rush and passed out.
• 48:48
  Yeah, like a blood sugar spike. And my favorite part of this movie was the little girl.
• 48:54
  Yeah, 100%.
• 48:55
  I thought she was— I thought she— I really thought she was outstanding. And I really, I really loved that it was this guy's just telling her a story. Even if it's at the end, I just wanted you to be on my side so you could go steal pills for me, right? Like, I want you to do bad things for me. Yeah, that's why I befriended you. But then he realizes at the end, it's like, this little kid is, you know, they like— he like— they grew— they had this relationship. It was purely one-sided. It's like she like was infatuated with this guy.
• 49:28
  Yeah.
• 49:28
  Because he was so nice and he was talking to her and telling these stories. But then he realized, it's like, this is a good kid, you know? And I put her through some shit and she's a good kid.
• 49:38
  They really bond. They have a connection. Like, he kind of is like Taking it for granted at first, but yeah, then he starts to realize that it's important. Yeah,
• 49:46
  yeah.
• 49:47
  Maybe there's something else to live for than just not having anything to live for, I guess. Yes, kind of this whole thing. Yeah, yeah, because it's pretty messed up what he's trying to get her to do. Like,
• 49:58
  yes, yeah,
• 49:59
  that's—
• 49:59
  go steal morphine for me so I can kill myself.
• 50:02
  Yep, yep.
• 50:03
  And then I also forgot— or I didn't forget, but I learned how disturbing Early 20th century X-ray technician.
• 50:11
  Oh, that guy looks scary. Yeah, he looks so scary. That was awesome, like a reveal though, because I didn't realize that the X-ray tech suit was what those armor guys were wearing. And then once they do that, I think it's another transition where she— or she sees the— she's having like a nightmare kind of, and she sees the X-ray technician in the dark going into that room, and it looks just like the knights, those evil knights. And I was like, whoa, that just clicked for me then. I was like, oh, I see. Okay.
• 50:36
  I also appreciate, because she's 5, right? So she takes a lot of things literally, and he calls them animals. Like, the, the guards— that whenever the guards are like fighting, they're like snarling and barking, like chasing people
• 50:50
  down. Yeah, like, yeah, like dogs and stuff going after people. Yeah,
• 50:53
  yeah, they sound like hyenas. They're like yipping and stuff. I just really liked— really enjoyed his storytelling through her, like, brain, right?
• 51:04
  Yes, it's like filtered in through her.
• 51:06
  Yeah. And like, her perspective is, is so different than his. And like, there's all this, just the visualization, and it's all representative of the life that she knew. Probably she probably hasn't lived in the United States. And it's like a terrible— I don't know if it's a terrible life, but like It's like you, you emigrate from India into the United States and then you're just picking oranges. You're 5 years old and you're working in an orange grove. It's just—
• 51:34
  You're trying to grow weird tooth, uh, orange hybrids.
• 51:37
  Tooth oranges. Yeah. Just like—
• 51:39
  I hope she doesn't succeed at that. I gotta say.
• 51:41
  Like orange that'll bite you.
• 51:44
  Could you imagine biting into an orange and it bites back?
• 51:47
  No, I can't imagine that at all.
• 51:49
  I don't, I don't want to imagine that.
• 51:51
  That's the future she's trying to create.
• 51:53
  So yeah. And then like at the end when she's watching those clips and she's like, oh, he went on to do a bunch of pictures. I didn't believe it until I saw them. And you could just see like, yeah, you just picture her like anytime chance she gets to see a movie, like sitting there and she's not probably not paying attention totally to the story. She's just looking to see if she can catch him.
• 52:11
  Find Roy.
• 52:12
  Yeah. I took it she doesn't even like, it's not always him, you know? She just imagines that that's always him, the guy doing it. No matter what.
• 52:18
  She's able to find a nice closeup of it. and, and get to see him, like, just in, like, the quick transition of the, of the film. And then she's, she's like, it doesn't matter, any other stunt guy she probably saw, she's like, oh, that's probably Roy.
• 52:30
  Yep. This, this movie, I think, has almost everything I like in it. Like, it's just like this really interesting story, the way everything intertwines together within, like, reality mixing in with the, the, the fictional imagination of the story. Like, it's got this, like, Really emotional, like the ups and downs. Like we're like, oh, this is cool, this is epic, or like really sad when like, yeah, she thinks when he falls asleep, I thought he was dying. I was like,
• 52:55
  I thought he was dead too, and I was really upset for a minute. I was like, oh God, now that kid's got to deal with that.
• 53:01
  That end where all the main characters in the imaginary story are just dying one after another in like the most like anticlimactic ways. It's like, oh my gosh, like this is brutal, but It's just really— I, I don't know, this movie really clicked with me. I thought it was just a good blend of everything. Visuals, the, the, the cinematography was amazing. The, the emotional journey was great. The acting's really good. The— yeah, that little girl does such a great job. Oh, it was awesome.
• 53:31
  But I was really invested in the last 45 minutes. I thought Lee was dead. I'm like, Jesus Christ, now what's this kid— how's this kid gonna finish this movie or the story, right?
• 53:41
  Right.
• 53:42
  And then I was like, okay, he's not dead, great. And
• 53:45
  then, then he finishes it and you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 53:48
  When she was trying— because she, she wanted so badly to help him, so— because she's just a kid, right? She's trying to steal that morphine, she falls off this, the stool or whatever, and then she has that crazy animated—
• 54:02
  oh yeah, that was awesome too. Like right out of the middle, right in the middle of the whole thing, they get the quick little stop-motion thing. That was pretty awesome.
• 54:09
  Yeah. And she's like, oh, it's being Tortured, even when they tortured me with the needles and stuff. When he realized that she just hit her head and fell off and hit her head.
• 54:17
  They had to like look into her brain and, you know, yeah, they're like doing something to her head. Yeah.
• 54:22
  Oh yeah, and they— and he had to, uh, she's explaining, he— and she's explaining how she's, you know, hit the thing, and that's when he realized that she got hurt trying to get him, yeah, more pills and stuff like that. And even, even towards the end, she's like even like trying to get him to like Don't kill the last guy. She's like, I'll get— if you need me to get you more of the stuff, I'll go get it for you still.
• 54:43
  Yeah,
• 54:44
  anything you need, just, you know, don't, don't kill off—
• 54:46
  Finish the story. Let me finish it in a way that's good, right? And, uh, yeah, I like that. And, and it's interesting too because in the beginning where she's like, well, why is, why is he this? Well, she's your— he's your dad. No, my dad's— my dad died. He's like, oh.
• 55:04
  Yeah, make him talk like you, basically what she says. And then,
• 55:07
  and then, oh, why is he— why does he talk like that? Well, because this is your dad. It's like, no, my dad died. But at the end, she's like made him into her dad in the story, right? And I like that too, because, you know, she's just a kid.
• 55:20
  She just needs someone to look up to.
• 55:22
  Run around the same little, uh, masked bandit outfit.
• 55:25
  That's so cute. Yeah, I love that when she pops out the, the the little carrying case.
• 55:30
  Yeah, that's why the bag was so heavy. I loved it. I thought that was awesome.
• 55:35
  Yeah, it's so cute.
• 55:37
  And this movie has that, like, those elements of natural funny in them.
• 55:43
  Yes.
• 55:44
  Where it's not like a comedy and it's not like, uh, audacious dialogue or like that. It's just—
• 55:49
  no,
• 55:49
  it's just events that make you chuckle.
• 55:52
  It's like lines where they're like, he's like trying to rationalize what, what just happened, you know what I mean? Like, where they're like, Oh crap, she added something to the story. I have to explain this with the character. And like, oh yeah, the bag was always heavy. I just didn't mention it till now.
• 56:05
  The priests are always good,
• 56:07
  right? Yeah. Oh no, he's not evil.
• 56:10
  Oh yeah, that priest was about to come out and kill that kid.
• 56:12
  Yeah. Oh no, no, no, the priest wouldn't do that.
• 56:14
  It was to knock a snake away.
• 56:17
  Yeah, yeah, the stick. Exactly. Yeah, where he has a stick to smack somebody, but he hits—
• 56:22
  Are you gonna make them kiss now?
• 56:24
  Yes. And now they kiss, right? Yeah, I like that. I like it. I even thought it was, it was funny how they're abandoned on, uh, Butterfly Reef at the beginning. These 5, the, the motliest of crews.
• 56:38
  Yeah.
• 56:39
  Charles Darwin, the Red Bandit, the escaped slave, the, uh, who else was it? The Italian. And, uh, who was the other person? The Indian, right?
• 56:51
  Yeah, the Indian who swims up.
• 56:52
  Yeah, yeah, those, those 5 on this island for whatever reason. Yes. Is so cool. But then they get off the island and the elephant's swimming. You know they had a real elephant and they know they made it swim. And the camera work on that was outstanding.
• 57:08
  It looked amazing. I gotta watch that elephant swim all day. I don't know if they're supposed— I don't know if— I didn't know if they could swim or not.
• 57:13
  They can. And all I could think was, that elephant's a better swimmer than I am. That's a fact.
• 57:19
  Now imagine if—
• 57:19
  It's true.
• 57:19
  Imagine if the elephant was a horse swimming underneath the water.
• 57:23
  Horses can kind of swim, not like elephants though. Man, that elephant was like very buoyant and it was like really—
• 57:29
  It was majestic.
• 57:30
  Yeah, it would go underwater and like use its trunk. It was very cool to see.
• 57:34
  Yes, I want to see it. Aquariums should adopt elephants so I can watch them swim in the water.
• 57:43
  I'm going to guess an elephant only swims like that if it has to.
• 57:47
  Yeah, I don't think it likes it. I would guarantee it probably thinks it's going to die every time it does it.
• 57:53
  And like elephants, you know, they say the elephant never forgets, but they do have like crazy memories and they can recognize one another.
• 58:01
  Yeah.
• 58:01
  And they recognize people and they recognize other elephants over decades. So if an elephant went swimming, like you said, Terry, and it thinks it's gonna die every time, it thinks it's gonna die every time.
• 58:12
  It remembers the last time. It must have been a real struggle the first time because it still thinks it's gonna die the second time, the third time. Yes. And then it sees all the people looking at it through the glass and it's like remembering their faces, like, if I ever get out of here, I'm gonna get these people.
• 58:26
  And if you've ever been a person that's not a very good swimmer and you get stuck in a spot where you have to swim, you think you're gonna die.
• 58:33
  Yes, yes.
• 58:35
  You're like, I don't know if I'm making it. Oh, thank God I made it.
• 58:38
  Elephants are not designed for swimming. Probably one of the least designed swimming animals.
• 58:44
  Their feet are flat. They're, they're cylinders.
• 58:47
  The only thing they got going for them is that trunk so they can peek out of the water. But that's—
• 58:50
  Yeah, like a periscope. They don't see through the trunk, Terry.
• 58:54
  Yeah, you're right. Well, obviously you can smell-o-vision.
• 58:56
  Oh sure, they're like, like Toucan Sam. Oh yeah, follow your nose.
• 59:02
  Periscope up.
• 59:03
  Yep.
• 59:04
  Yeah, hopefully there's Froot Loops on the shore so they can follow them.
• 59:09
  There probably is. There usually is on most shores.
• 59:11
  And somewhere, I guarantee, on any shore, as long as you go far enough in either direction, you will find Froot Loops.
• 59:19
  If you go far enough, like inland, is that what you mean?
• 59:21
  No, just up and down the shore, like the entire length, the coast.
• 59:25
  Okay, you think there's a Froot Loop on every coast?
• 59:27
  There's a— no, somewhere. Like if you go from Maine all the way down to the tip of Florida.
• 59:34
  Wow.
• 59:34
  Around Florida through the Gulf of Mexico. Up across the Yucatan Peninsula, down, down around Brazil and Argentina, all the way down to the tip of South America. I guarantee at any given moment there are Froot Loops somewhere.
• 59:52
  You're guaranteeing there's at least one Froot Loop on that coast somewhere?
• 59:55
  Somewhere along that coastal line.
• 59:57
  I would take that bet. Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right.
• 1:00:00
  Can I prove it? No.
• 1:00:02
  No, but nobody else could prove it's wrong.
• 1:00:04
  But I just know there is.
• 1:00:06
  We should get people on. I want someone to take that as a challenge to try and to find a Froot Loop.
• 1:00:12
  Photograph Froot Loops on the coast, please.
• 1:00:14
  Yeah, send them our way.
• 1:00:16
  Just to prove my point.
• 1:00:16
  Everyone, yeah, yeah, this is like a hill that they're just gonna die
• 1:00:22
  on. It's the only hill I'll die on.
• 1:00:24
  I'm going up there with you. I like that.
• 1:00:27
  There's Froot Loops on the coast at any given moment.
• 1:00:33
  On the entire length of like the Eastern Seaboard. Yeah,
• 1:00:36
  there's at least
• 1:00:37
  one Froot Loop
• 1:00:38
  covering North, Central, and South America.
• 1:00:40
  Yep.
• 1:00:41
  Yes.
• 1:00:41
  Yeah, makes sense to me.
• 1:00:43
  I'm saying there is. We got through The Fall. What did we think of The Fall?
• 1:00:49
  Uh, it was interesting. I mean, I don't know if I'm rushing out to watch it again, but it was interesting. I liked a lot of— I— there's a lot of stuff that I really enjoyed in it, and it makes— and it makes me want to watch, uh, at least The Cell again. Oh, I see. I haven't seen that in a very long time, uh, and I do remember that one kind of being like really cool visuals as well. Um, so I might want to consider watching that again at some point.
• 1:01:13
  Yeah, I'm very intrigued to watch another movie by this guy. Um, I love this movie. I thought it was amazing. Um, like I said, the visuals are awesome. The story is really cool, the way everything blends together. You can see like the what actually happened, her imagination, and then the end result, I guess, of like cinema. It's just this really interesting thing how everything ties together with each other, how the real world and the imagination world all kind of come together. It's really good. I honestly, I think it's one of the best movies we've watched. It's really, really good.
• 1:01:44
  I, I was almost immediately transfixed by the movie, right? So it's like just, just dialed in. And then I had, had to take a break for about 45 minutes that really ruined my— not that ruined my experience, but really took me out of it. Uh, and it came back. But man, this movie, this movie, I agree with you, Terry. It is, it's a lot of, it's a lot of things I really like about watching movies. And it does, does those things that I like when movies do, where they just do whatever they want, right? Like, they know they have a medium, they can visually do whatever they can imagine fundamentally, and they do it and they pull it off. And was the, the juice worth the squeeze? Yes, I, I think 100%. I mean, 28 countries over the course of 4 years. I love the output. I imagine somebody somewhere that like wrote a check was pissed But man, like the output, primo. And unlike you, Keith, I was at the end, I was like, why was this rated R? Can I, can I watch this again with a kid? That was my first thought. I'm like, she's 13. I think I don't remember anything being R-worthy in there. There's no foul language.
• 1:03:08
  I guess there's the violence. Like there's, it's kind of bloody at times, but it's not that bad.
• 1:03:11
  It's not bad.
• 1:03:13
  And suicidal.
• 1:03:14
  Yeah, I guess
• 1:03:16
  the, the dark overtones there, but
• 1:03:19
  killing yourself with the pills, making a kid do that, it's kind of— that's pretty sketchy.
• 1:03:23
  But yeah, like, I, I was ready to watch again. Uh, am I gonna watch it again immediately? Probably not, but I do want to watch again. I am mad that I haven't seen it up until this point, but I'm glad, I'm glad I saw it now. All right. Well, we know what we thought. What did the internet have to say? Well, on January 13th, 2012, Aish_Dr had this to say. Original and beautiful to see. After seeing Scorsese's Hugo today, which I also enjoyed, I could not help but feel that Tarsem achieves a more effective result with his little homage to the old movies, and he does that in far fewer scenes. Also, the magic of stories and how they are told is more palpable here. The little girl is also much more convincing in her role than the boy in Hugo. Hmm. Comparisons aside, the captivating natural beauty of the locations where the movie was shot has opened my eyes to the many wonders of the world that are far more arresting than any special effects. All credit to the director for having brought them to us. 3 found it helpful, 3 not so much. 10 out of 10.
• 1:04:47
  Wow, tied for helpful or not. Yes. I felt like there's too much Hugo talk in that.
• 1:04:53
  And then, not to be outdone, Actually, on November 25th, 2008, E-Gonzalez had this to say. Stop wasting your time and watch Baraka.
• 1:05:09
  Oh, yes.
• 1:05:10
  This is an actually. This is a hipster review right here. It's like I liked this movie the first time when I saw it. It was called Baraka.
• 1:05:17
  Baraka.
• 1:05:19
  This movie was a waste of time. Dot dot. Dot. If you want a film with beautiful scenery, watch Baraka. That's where they got the monkey priest scene and the big well shot from, just to name a few. The little girl is cute and funny, but the rest of the movie is so creepy. In the end, you don't care. It's trying to be really artsy and profound, but there is only disappointment waiting behind an odious mask of pretentiousness and ego masturbation.
• 1:05:53
  Wow.
• 1:05:54
  If you remove the plot, dialogue, and general confusion from this picture, you have... yes, I'll say it again... Baracka. So, giving this film just a single star for technique in terms of photography, etc. would practically be applauding plagiarism. Plagiarism. No bleep stars. Bleep you. Oh. I wish I could or would write more about this movie, but I suddenly find myself dumbfounded that I actually took time out of my precious daily joint smoking schedule to comment this copycat B-movie.
• 1:06:42
  Wow.
• 1:06:42
  Again, watch Baraka if you want beautiful scenery and thoughtful, inspired natural and human symbolism, dot dot dot, instead of this almost piece that forgot the true soul of filmmaking. Sounds familiar, dot dot dot. Oh my God. Let the last word be one you'll read earlier epitomizing this movie: ego-masturbation.
• 1:07:14
  Oh, come on.
• 1:07:16
  0/10. 29 found it helpful, 49 not so much. 1 out of 10.
• 1:07:25
  Oh, that guy is annoying. Oh my God, relax.
• 1:07:30
  I love how, uh, odious mask of pretentiousness and ego masturbation. He doesn't see the irony.
• 1:07:39
  I was about to say, I'm sensing that from a certain review.
• 1:07:42
  Yes, exactly.
• 1:07:44
  The guy talking about Baraka. God, this is God's gift to cinema, which maybe it is. I've never seen it, but I mean, I've seen the Mortal Kombat character, which he is a God's gift to cinema. But, um, I mean, come on. Like, I have heard of Baraka, and I know I've heard it's really interesting, but it's not— I don't know, like Chill out. What's the problem here? This is not that similar to Baraka. I bet, I bet it's not that simple.
• 1:08:07
  And even if it is, okay.
• 1:08:10
  Yeah,
• 1:08:11
  like,
• 1:08:12
  that's fine. Yeah,
• 1:08:12
  like, why are you so mad at this one?
• 1:08:14
  It's an influence. That's great.
• 1:08:17
  Yeah,
• 1:08:18
  some people would call it an homage if they, you know, they like, oh, here's the scene, you know. Maybe the— I guarantee almost 75%, 80% of people watching the film are not going to recognize the homage to Baraka if there is one. Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:08:33
  They're not gonna get the Barack influence at all. They don't know. Most people don't know
• 1:08:38
  this guy. I'm sorry he had to interrupt his daily weed smoking or whatever he said. That oh, that guy. Ooh, that's okay. You know what? He can think what he wants.
• 1:08:51
  Here's the thing, and that's fine. They can be upset about it, but to like be that up your own ass about your own. disappointment for this. That's something else. It's just so weird.
• 1:09:01
  He gave it a 0 out of 10, but he gave the movie a compliment. He said that the girl was cute and good. Yeah, all right, that should probably get it at least a 1 out of 10.
• 1:09:10
  Yeah, you think?
• 1:09:12
  He gave it a compliment. He didn't— like, there's good stuff. He admitted to it, so it shouldn't be a 0 out of 10.
• 1:09:17
  Yeah, but he's, he's so angry that, yeah, it's just— it's a— it's another movie. It's just like another movie. And if you— and I hate that. I hate that. If you want the real one, you should watch this. Why don't you watch— just watch Baraka instead?
• 1:09:32
  Yeah, everybody should go watch Baraka. I
• 1:09:34
  never heard of Baraka, one. Or two, maybe getting Baraka isn't accessible. The fact that he's spending that much time angrily reviewing this movie, which that many people haven't seen either. Right?
• 1:09:47
  Right.
• 1:09:48
  This is not like— it's not like this is the latest Marvel movie that's ripping off of Baraka. Oh, this made a billion dollars in the theaters, and you should have watched Baraka instead.
• 1:10:00
  Yes.
• 1:10:00
  No, like this is another like unseen movie.
• 1:10:06
  Yes, this is all. It's probably honestly almost as underseen as Baraka. Yeah, I would assume.
• 1:10:12
  Probably.
• 1:10:13
  It was obvious that Lee Pace's portrayal of Ronin in the Marvel movies was pulled from this. Oh, pulled from Baraka.
• 1:10:21
  100%. Yeah, people are watching Guardians of Galaxy. Like if you want to watch the real Guardians of Galaxy, you should watch The Fall because that. That's really where you see
• 1:10:28
  it. And if you're watching The Fall, you should have watched Baraka instead,
• 1:10:32
  idiot. Why are you even watching The Fall? You should go back even further to Baraka. Yeah, um, that's— a friend told me that he watched Baraka, and he did say that it was like something that he's like, man, if you just smoke some weed and watch it, it's gonna blow your mind. I'm like, I don't know.
• 1:10:50
  I'm not surprised that Terry has the guy who's a Baraka guy.
• 1:10:53
  He's kind of a Baraka guy. Yeah, I'm like skeptical to watch these. I'm like, I don't really— I don't do that stuff. So I'm like, this isn't even gonna be good, like, for me, like, someone who's not going to do that, you know, just watch it sober. Like,
• 1:11:05
  do you know what— do any of us know what Baraka is about?
• 1:11:09
  It's like, uh, just shots of people. I think it's just like a montage of, like, different, um— I mean, of course, Baraka, the, the slayer of men with his knives, um, but I believe the film is about a— yeah, just like, it's like a montage of just, like, shots of human life.
• 1:11:26
  Yeah, I got it right here. Baraka is a documentary film with no narrative or voiceover. It explores themes via a compilation of natural events, life, human activities, and technological phenomena shot in 24 countries on 6 continents over a 14-month period.
• 1:11:42
  Yeah, it's just like a very artsy documentary.
• 1:11:48
  Yeah, it sounds like the only thing it has in common with the other one is it was shot over like a bunch of different Yes, continents. For a long period of time.
• 1:11:55
  The film is named after the Islamic concept of Baraka, meaning blessing, or Baruch in Hebrew, essence or breath. So somebody made Baraka, which is a documentary. Somebody saw these real-life events being played out on film and said, God, I can fictionalize this as something really cool.
• 1:12:17
  Yes.
• 1:12:18
  This would be an awesome— this is an awesome inspiration For a story, this would fit so well. Like, ah,
• 1:12:24
  great. Yeah, he took something that happens in real life and used it as inspiration for his fictional work. Whoa, who does that? Weird. Yeah,
• 1:12:32
  like plagiarism. Now
• 1:12:33
  I'll
• 1:12:34
  probably watch Barack and be like, holy shit, it is people.
• 1:12:38
  I'm gonna change my— yeah, my rating on Letterboxd. You see, like, it's just been shifted from like— yeah, it's a 1 star after I watched Barack.
• 1:12:47
  I don't know, reviews like that, people like, it just are obnoxious and funny at the same time.
• 1:12:52
  Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That guy. You know what? Whatever. Whatever. I just gotta let it go.
• 1:12:59
  Gotta let it go. Can't get too upset.
• 1:13:02
  Nope.
• 1:13:02
  We made it through it. We made it through week 1 of month 12. I like this new, uh, convention where I name the weeks. Yeah. Number the months and the weeks.
• 1:13:14
  Like we're just now starting this.
• 1:13:15
  That means we're here for week 2 is next week, and that's a Keith week, and Keith has a movie choice for us.
• 1:13:28
  Yeah, yeah, I, I picked, uh, so Derek, when you sent this link out, um, I didn't, I didn't deep dive into any of the replies back and forth or anything like that. I was scrolling through and I was looking at all the names that were popping up. And one that showed up on here is one that I told— because I told my wife, as I explained what it was, and I said, I already picked out my movie. And I told her what it was and she was like, you've never seen that?
• 1:13:58
  Oh.
• 1:13:58
  Which then I responded back with, I do believe we've done this same conversation at least once a year for at least the last 15 years. With her? Yes. Where I will say that I've never seen that movie, and then the same exact movie, which I think we even own on DVD, it was one of hers to add to the collection. I've never seen it. And she'll say, and she'll look at me shocked every single time. And we still have never gotten around to watch it. So we might as well take care of this, uh, now. And, uh, we're gonna watch Sneakers.
• 1:14:35
  Oh, Sneakers. Okay, I saw that on there. Yeah,
• 1:14:37
  Robert Redford. Yeah,
• 1:14:39
  yeah. So I know we watched some other movies where I said, oh, I've seen that a bunch of times, and then I'm like, no, I don't think I've ever seen this movie. Now I'm, I'm worried. I am slightly worried that we're gonna watch this, I'll be like, oh, I've seen this.
• 1:14:52
  Oh, Sneakers.
• 1:14:57
  Yeah, as in like they're sneaking, not the shoes.
• 1:14:59
  Yes.
• 1:15:00
  I see.
• 1:15:01
  Yeah.
• 1:15:02
  And I'm surprised you hadn't seen that. That feels like one that would've been, uh, on Keith's radar.
• 1:15:08
  Mm-hmm. I'm also excited about the fact that this may be the second movie we've watched that, uh, that my wife watched with us.
• 1:15:17
  Oh, well there you go.
• 1:15:18
  Oh, nice.
• 1:15:19
  Nice. It's a family affair.
• 1:15:20
  The other one was Back to the Future 2, and then I think she's not watching anything again with us.
• 1:15:24
  Yeah. She hated you as, as, as Drive.
• 1:15:27
  Oh God.
• 1:15:28
  That is correct. It goes Drive and then it goes Back to the Future 2.
• 1:15:31
  That's such a crime. I can't believe you guys hate Drive. That's crazy.
• 1:15:35
  Well, what's crazy is we only got one thing left to do, and that is to end this the way we end everything.
• 1:15:42
  Oh, I hope it is what I think it is.
• 1:15:44
  I've never seen the video, so—
• 1:15:53
  Wow, this is already so heartwarming.
• 1:16:04
  I've never heard this.
• 1:16:05
  When you get to the chorus, you'll be like, oh, this song.
• 1:16:12
  He's
• 1:16:13
  literally singing over the graduation song.
• 1:16:18
  Wow. If you tell me this
• 1:16:20
  is like an AI-generated
• 1:16:22
  thing, I would think you were telling the truth.
• 1:16:27
  This song made her famous. Oh my God, get to the chorus! How long is
• 1:16:40
  this verse? I
• 1:16:43
  love the COVID Yep, yep, I have heard this.
• 1:17:02
  Makes me want to go back to high school.
• 1:17:13
  school and graduate all over again.
• 1:17:15
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