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Tyler Robinson’s Lawyers Seek Camera Ban Ahead of September 1st Hearing (8/26/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the program. Tyler
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  Speaker 1: Robinson's lawyers have filed a new motion with the court
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  Speaker 1: asking the court to ban cameras from the hearing that's
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  Speaker 1: scheduled on September 1st. And of course this has to
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  Speaker 1: do with the circus that surrounds this trial. And the lawyers,
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  Speaker 1: they say that having cameras inside the courtroom could potentially
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  Speaker 1: taint the jury and give biased information to the public,
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  Speaker 1: considering the nature of the hearing, and that hearsay is allowed.
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  Speaker 1: And look, I get it. If I was a lawyer
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  Speaker 1: for Tyler Robinson, I'd be trying to get cameras out
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  Speaker 1: of the courtroom too. But as a member of the public,
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  Speaker 1: that's the last thing I want to see. Because if
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  Speaker 1: there's no cameras in there, and we can't follow along,
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  Speaker 1: then they can claim whatever, right? Oh, Tyler Robinson's getting
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  Speaker 1: a raw deal. He's being set up. And if we
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  Speaker 1: don't have access to that courtroom, then it certainly breathes
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  Speaker 1: life into some of the conspiracies saying that this is
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  Speaker 1: a cover-up and that the government doesn't want to be
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  Speaker 1: honest with the American people. But this kind of battle
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  Speaker 1: in a trial like this is not something that is unique.
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  Speaker 1: When it comes to Brian Kohlberger, forget it. The battle
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  Speaker 1: to have cameras in the courtroom or take them out,
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  Speaker 1: it was massive. It went on for months. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure that we're going to see the same kind of
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  Speaker 1: battles take place here because the sort of interest in
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  Speaker 1: this case is pretty overwhelming. And there's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people that, you know, want to watch
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  Speaker 1: what's going on. So I have a hard time believing
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  Speaker 1: that Judge Graff is going to pull cameras out of
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  Speaker 1: the courtroom as far as forever. But maybe for this trial,
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  Speaker 1: he might do that considering some of the things that
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  Speaker 1: we've seen previously. So today, we have an article from
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  Speaker 1: Fox News and the headline, Tyler Robinson's lawyers seek camera
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  Speaker 1: ban for September 1st hearing. Say case is not a
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  Speaker 1: reality TV show. This article was authored by Michael Ruiz.
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Robinson's attorneys are asking the judge to ban cameras
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  Speaker 1: from the courtroom, this time alleging that cameras and streaming
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  Speaker 1: of his upcoming September 1st hearing risk turning the case
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  Speaker 1: into a reality TV show. Bad news for you guys.
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  Speaker 1: It already is. the amount of nonsense that surrounds this
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  Speaker 1: case is unbelievable. And people just pop off with all
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  Speaker 1: kinds of crazy shit. I mean, look, I'm not opposed
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  Speaker 1: to an alternative way of thinking, as you all know.
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  Speaker 1: But there has to be some merit. There has to
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  Speaker 1: be some meat on that bone. Let's see some evidence. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you tell me there's Egyptian planes. Well, let's see some evidence.
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  Speaker 1: What were they doing? Who was involved? Where did they go?
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  Speaker 1: And if you don't have that kind of evidence, then
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  Speaker 1: all you have is speculation. And that's cool. There's a
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  Speaker 1: place for that, right? We don't know what happened yet.
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  Speaker 1: The idea should be to open every door, shake every bush,
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  Speaker 1: and see what comes out. That's what you should be
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  Speaker 1: doing during an investigation. But there's some wild shit. And
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  Speaker 1: there's some wild conversation. I mean, what's next? It was
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  Speaker 1: Bigfoot riding a chupacabra that killed Tyler Robinson? The media
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  Speaker 1: presence in the courtroom both distracts and places added pressure
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  Speaker 1: on the hearing participants to present for the media, as
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  Speaker 1: opposed to focusing on the facts, evidence, and mechanics of
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  Speaker 1: the hearing. Robinson's attorneys, Kathy Nestor, Michael Burt, and Richard Novak,
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  Speaker 1: and Stacey Visser, wrote in one of two Saturday court filings, Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Robinson's case is not and should not be made into
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  Speaker 1: a reality TV show. Look, I agree with that. Tyler
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  Speaker 1: Robinson deserves a fair shake. He deserves every protection that's
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  Speaker 1: provided to him under the Constitution, just like anybody else
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  Speaker 1: who's accused of something like this deserves the same. And
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  Speaker 1: he's going to get it with as much publicity and
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  Speaker 1: as many eyes that are on this case. They would
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  Speaker 1: have a very hard time playing games. And if they
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  Speaker 1: were playing games with, you know, discovery or anything like that,
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  Speaker 1: the defense would already be talking about Brady violations. We
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  Speaker 1: haven't heard any of that. The defense is arguing that
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  Speaker 1: live streams and other images from the hearing could bias
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  Speaker 1: the public against their client by showing evidence that may
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  Speaker 1: not be admissible at trial later. And this has been
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  Speaker 1: a big point of contention. Why are they talking about hearsay?
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  Speaker 1: Why are they talking about things that won't be admitted
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to the actual trial? Well, because it's
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  Speaker 1: the same thing as a grand jury, right? You know
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  Speaker 1: what they say about a grand jury. You can get
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  Speaker 1: a conviction of a ham sandwich in a grand jury.
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  Speaker 1: And that's because it's pretty much one-way traffic. So the
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  Speaker 1: same goes for a prelim hearing in a place like Utah.
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  Speaker 1: So there's going to be hearsay. There's going to be
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  Speaker 1: qualified statements. And remember, it's not just about one bit
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  Speaker 1: of evidence or one piece of evidence. It's about the
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  Speaker 1: totality of what they've collected. So I think that's an
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  Speaker 1: important distinction. And people need to understand that it's not
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  Speaker 1: just about one piece of evidence. It never is. It's
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  Speaker 1: about the totality of it. And what they do is
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  Speaker 1: they use circumstantial evidence to build a base, the foundation.
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  Speaker 1: And then on top of that foundation comes the stronger evidence.
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  Speaker 1: But just about every single investigation starts with circumstantial evidence.
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  Speaker 1: Specific to the oral argument on the prelim hearing, the EMC,
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  Speaker 1: Electronic Media Coverage, will memorialize and widely disseminate arguments discussing
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  Speaker 1: the largely hearsay-based evidentiary presentation made by the state. The
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  Speaker 1: lawyer wrote, Such evidence is, by its very nature, insufficiently
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  Speaker 1: reliable for admission at trial. Well, that's true, but that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's not important. People need to understand what
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  Speaker 1: the circumstantial evidence is and why the government has a
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  Speaker 1: case against Tyler Robinson. And the best way to do
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  Speaker 1: that is to see them lay out their evidence in
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  Speaker 1: live court. Both of the filings also included redacted paragraphs
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  Speaker 1: after Robinson's lawyers alleged that additional evidence of bias developing
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  Speaker 1: as a result of the widespread publication of his case
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  Speaker 1: can be tracked in real time. Well, look, this is
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  Speaker 1: one of those cases that elicits a lot of emotion
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  Speaker 1: one way or the other. And there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people that get controlled by their emotions. So there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people that have inserted themselves into this case
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  Speaker 1: that have main character syndrome. Look, it's one thing to
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  Speaker 1: cover it and it's a whole ass other thing to
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  Speaker 1: think you're a fucking inspector gadget and you're going to
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  Speaker 1: blow the doors off the investigation. It's absurd. Honestly, it's absurd. Now,
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't mean people commentating on it don't have, you know,
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  Speaker 1: good ideas. That doesn't mean they don't have good theories.
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  Speaker 1: But there's some people that actually think they're a part
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  Speaker 1: of the investigation. And I can assure you, they are not.
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  Speaker 1: The defense also claimed that witnesses who provided statements that
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  Speaker 1: were admitted as reliable hearsay ahead of the week-long July
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  Speaker 1: preliminary hearing, experienced harassment by media and interested third parties. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I wonder who they're talking about. I wonder who was
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  Speaker 1: harassing people. The same people that are grifting the fuck
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  Speaker 1: out of this case. Here's an idea. Talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: Cover it. Share evidence with your audience. Leave people alone.
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  Speaker 1: I swear to God, I don't think I've ever seen
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  Speaker 1: as much jackassery surrounding a case as we do here.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, every time you turn around, there is another
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  Speaker 1: theory and another ridiculous narrative that just doesn't fit. Robinson's
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  Speaker 1: the man accused of assassinating Charlie Kirk, 31, at a
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  Speaker 1: Turning Point USA event in Orem, Utah last year. Kirk
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  Speaker 1: was shot and killed while speaking to a crowd of
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  Speaker 1: thousands at Utah Valley University on September 10th, 2025. Separately,
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  Speaker 1: a source close to the Kirk family said Tuesday that
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  Speaker 1: Kirk's widow, Erica, and his parents, Rob and Kathy, all
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  Speaker 1: planned to attend the September 1st hearing together, as they
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  Speaker 1: did during the July hearing. Yo, I'd be there too
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  Speaker 1: if it was my family member. Are you crazy right now? What,
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  Speaker 1: they shouldn't be there? I know I would be. And look,
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  Speaker 1: you can have all the problems in the world with
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  Speaker 1: Erica Kirk. And frankly, I find some of the behavior
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  Speaker 1: a bit off-putting. But the way people have attacked this woman? Wow.
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  Speaker 1: That's a whole ass other level. And I have a
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  Speaker 1: funny feeling when all said and done, there's going to
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  Speaker 1: be some lawsuits filed. Judge Tony Graff will hear oral
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  Speaker 1: arguments from both sides regarding the evidence introduced in July
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  Speaker 1: and will decide whether there's enough probable cause to justify
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  Speaker 1: sending Robinson to trial on the charges against him. Look,
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  Speaker 1: there's no doubt. There's enough evidence. Is that evidence strong
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  Speaker 1: enough to convict? We'll have to see. but there's certainly
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  Speaker 1: enough evidence to take it to trial. I mean, come on.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think anybody is disputing that. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think there's anybody out there that thinks this is not
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  Speaker 1: going to trial. Robinson's defense objected to hearsay evidence from
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  Speaker 1: the prelim hearing and also opposes the sole aggravating factor
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  Speaker 1: in the aggravated murder charge that carries a potential death penalty.
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  Speaker 1: That Robinson allegedly put other people at great risk of
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  Speaker 1: death by shooting Kirk in a crowded place. Like, how
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  Speaker 1: do you even dispute that All those people around, you're
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  Speaker 1: firing bullets downrange. Yeah, somebody else could have been hurt.
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  Speaker 1: Seems like a logical step for me. The defense argued
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  Speaker 1: that only a single shot was fired from an elevated position.
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  Speaker 1: It traveled over the crowd rather than through it and
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  Speaker 1: only struck Kirk. Well, that's weird. If it was an
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  Speaker 1: exploding microphone or a drone, don't you think his defense
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  Speaker 1: would point that out? Hey, look, not only did he
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  Speaker 1: not shoot this person, nobody shot anybody. There was no bullet.
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  Speaker 1: It was an exploding microphone. And I love when people
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  Speaker 1: are like, well, they can't present anything at a prelim hearing. Bro,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think the whole entire point is? If
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  Speaker 1: they have evidence that exonerates their client, oh, they're bringing
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  Speaker 1: it to the table. You better believe that. Prosecutors countered
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  Speaker 1: that Robinson was a bad shot. One who seldom hit
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  Speaker 1: the bullseye and sometimes misses the target completely when practicing
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  Speaker 1: shooting with a suspected murder weapon. Well, that certainly is
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  Speaker 1: a bit weird. So he misses all the time, but
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  Speaker 1: he just happens to be on point when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to taking out Charlie Kirk? Look, I'm not saying that
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  Speaker 1: there's not weird things that come along with this story.
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  Speaker 1: There are. And there's a lot of unanswered questions. But
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  Speaker 1: for me, the way to get to those answers is
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  Speaker 1: to follow the actual evidence. Not what some jerk-off on
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  Speaker 1: Twitter says. Robinson, 23, has not yet entered a plea. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt that this goes to trial.
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  Speaker 1: But as far as the cameras in the courtroom on
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  Speaker 1: September 1st, I think that's up for debate. While I
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  Speaker 1: think they should be there, we'll have to see what
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  Speaker 1: Judge Graff thinks and what he says. Because there's certainly
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  Speaker 1: an argument to be made on both sides. And considering
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  Speaker 1: that that hearing... is what a week away or so
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  Speaker 1: i'm guessing that we'll have a ruling from judge graph
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  Speaker 1: sometime in the next few days and when we get
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  Speaker 1: that ruling obviously we'll get it added to the catalog
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