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Ohio State vs. Texas Pregame LIVE From Darrell K. Royal Stadium · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome live inside Daryl K. Royal Texas Memorial Stadium.
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  Speaker 1: Site of tonight's number one Ohio State versus number four
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  Speaker 1: Texas Longhorns football game. We are right now just about
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  Speaker 1: four hours to kick off. Obviously not very many people
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  Speaker 1: in there. That place will be full in a matter
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  Speaker 1: of a couple hours. I'm going to guess it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be an early arriving crowd tonight. Tom Moore of
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  Speaker 1: Buckeye Insiders joined by Tony Gerderman of Buckeye Insiders. Chuck
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  Speaker 1: Mulledy of Buckeye Insiders will be joining us a little
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  Speaker 1: bit later on. But wanted to kind of just sort
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  Speaker 1: of set the stage here. I know the first question
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  Speaker 1: everyone's going to have is, how is the weather out there?
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  Speaker 2: It's hot, but right now it is 96 degrees. Trying
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  Speaker 2: to get the body temp down. Got some nice air
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  Speaker 2: conditioning over us to where we're sitting, so that's nice.
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  Speaker 2: Can't wait to get over there. It's warm, but they've
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  Speaker 2: been preparing for it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is something that this is not caught Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State by surprise by any means. So should be okay,
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  Speaker 1: should be good. You know, I'm sure you're going to
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  Speaker 1: see some cramping tonight from probably both teams, from the
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  Speaker 1: press box, from the photographers on the field, and probably
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  Speaker 1: from some of the players as well. Going to be
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  Speaker 1: a hot, steamy day down there. But as you said,
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  Speaker 1: they've been preparing. Certainly, if I have been cognizant of
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  Speaker 1: my hydration levels, I'm sure the team has been as well.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the things that was interesting that we
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  Speaker 1: learned this week is the Buckeyes have been using a
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  Speaker 1: facility that normally is reserved for the weight room or
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  Speaker 1: for the wrestling team at the Ohio State University.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been over at the wrestling team's sauna and
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  Speaker 2: getting their weight down, I guess, is what they've been doing.
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  Speaker 2: Just getting used to the heat and some of the
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  Speaker 2: humidity and just, you know, existing in it and getting
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  Speaker 2: used to like, okay, this is not so bad. This
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  Speaker 2: is only 94. This is fine. Just building that up.
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  Speaker 2: And it's the same thing with cold. You need to
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  Speaker 2: just go out and spend some time with it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: get used to it, let your blood thicken up, get
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  Speaker 2: in the sun, let your blood thin out, I guess,
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  Speaker 2: and get ready for this.
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  Speaker 1: So the heat will not be the only challenge that
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State's facing tonight. They're also facing a pretty good team.
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  Speaker 1: They're also going to face what I'm going to guess
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  Speaker 1: is going to be a pretty loud and rowdy crowd
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  Speaker 1: out here in Darroca Royal. This is my first time here.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you can tell, I guess you
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  Speaker 1: can sort of see the side stands there on that side.
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  Speaker 1: It goes up pretty, you know, on TV, it looks like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is sort of a very wide bowl. And it
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  Speaker 1: really in person is not. There's You know, it goes
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  Speaker 1: out a little bit, but there's a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: an overhang. There's a little bit of a vertical. And
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  Speaker 1: I think this is and they just put a new
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  Speaker 1: facility on the south end zone, which is where we are.
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  Speaker 1: We're sort of in that new area in the last
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  Speaker 1: built in the last decade or so. And I it
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  Speaker 1: is basically a straight vertical wall. So I get the
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  Speaker 1: sense that this place holds the noise in pretty well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And it looks like it goes up and maybe comes
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  Speaker 2: back around. And I keep saying it. I know this
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  Speaker 2: place is very, very old, but it looks like it
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  Speaker 2: could have been built in the last 15 years.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they have they have done a phenomenal job modernizing this.
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  Speaker 1: I was just down trying to get my way from
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  Speaker 1: where the photographers work to up to the press box
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  Speaker 1: and inadvertently found all sorts of fun stuff between here
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  Speaker 1: and there, including the Texas locker room. They are going
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  Speaker 1: to come out the south end zone, which is the
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  Speaker 1: one where the new one that we're standing in. They
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  Speaker 1: have a spot in the stands where there's sort of
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  Speaker 1: like a cutout that looks like the Texas Longhorns logo.
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  Speaker 1: and they will come running out there. There's a tunnel
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  Speaker 1: back to their, or a hallway back to their locker room.
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  Speaker 1: They'll come down some stairs and then out that tunnel
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  Speaker 1: kind of on our end. So that's the end that
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  Speaker 1: says Longhorns in the end zone. That'll be the right
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  Speaker 1: side on your TV screen. Buckeyes will be coming out
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  Speaker 1: the far side, the side that says Texas in the
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  Speaker 1: end zone. So that's where they're going to be coming out.
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  Speaker 1: This is quite a scene, quite a spectacle. I'm really
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  Speaker 1: excited for this. We got here four hours and some
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  Speaker 1: change before the game, and it was already starting to
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  Speaker 1: get kind of hopping outside.
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  Speaker 2: The surrounding stadium area and parking lots are hopping, as
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  Speaker 2: you said. A lot of music, big screens showing the
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  Speaker 2: Texas A & M game. I was watching as Texas
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  Speaker 2: A & M scored a touchdown. There were some boos
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  Speaker 2: from the folks watching, but Yeah, very festive environment outside.
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  Speaker 1: So I guess let's talk a little bit about the
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  Speaker 1: game itself because this is such a fascinating matchup because
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  Speaker 1: these are two top five teams in the nation. Two of,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's, we don't have official numbers, but I'd
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  Speaker 1: be very surprised if these were not two of the
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  Speaker 1: five highest payroll rosters in the nation this year. And
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  Speaker 1: two teams with very big expectations. Ohio State, the expectations
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  Speaker 1: are always kind of win the national championship. And if
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  Speaker 1: you didn't, why didn't you win the national championship? For Texas,
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  Speaker 1: this is a year where they have made the semifinals
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  Speaker 1: in 2023 and lost to Washington, made the semifinals in 2024,
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  Speaker 1: lost to Ohio State, missed the playoff by not a
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  Speaker 1: whole lot last year. This feels like you've got the
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  Speaker 1: third year for Arch Manning, the fourth year for Arch Manning.
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  Speaker 1: You've got a talented running back room. You brought in
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood Smothers. You brought in Cam Coleman. I mean, this
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  Speaker 1: is a talented, talented team. Rasheem Biles. This feels like
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  Speaker 1: this is going to be a huge game narratively for
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  Speaker 1: Texas in a year when I think the expectation is
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  Speaker 1: you better win a couple games at least in February
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  Speaker 1: or January.
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  Speaker 2: If you're putting all your chips in, you can't bluff
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  Speaker 2: in college football, so you better have a good hand.
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  Speaker 2: If you can buy cards, that's what Texas and Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State have done. Can I get an ace? That sort
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  Speaker 2: of thing. Both teams have gone and got some aces,
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  Speaker 2: but there's going to be no hiding during this one.
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  Speaker 2: I think you could hide a little bit last year.
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  Speaker 2: because you're hiding Julian Sane. You're dealing with that whole situation,
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  Speaker 2: and certainly they thought they wouldn't have to hide Arch Manning,
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  Speaker 2: but then they had to kind of work around him.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Here, you might be trying to protect your defenses. Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State might be trying to protect their defense, but to
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  Speaker 2: do that, you better attack offensively so that if your
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  Speaker 2: defense gives up 21, your 24, your 27, your 28
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  Speaker 2: can handle it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just the quarterbacks alone. It's always a little reductive
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  Speaker 1: to just say, well, let's just talk about the quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 1: but let's just talk about the quarterbacks because this time
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  Speaker 1: last year when Ohio State and Texas played, Julian Sane
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  Speaker 1: was making his first start, had really not thrown a
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  Speaker 1: consequential pass in college. Arch Manning had played sort of
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  Speaker 1: situationally the year before behind Quinn Ewers for Texas, but
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  Speaker 1: that was still very much, I think he had started
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  Speaker 1: like an FBS opponent or FCS opponent game or something
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  Speaker 1: like that in 24, but really had not played a
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  Speaker 1: consequential game before then and it was very much a
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  Speaker 1: feeling out process for both teams where there was a
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  Speaker 1: lot of okay just don't make the big mistake and
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  Speaker 1: both teams were very just don't make the big mistake
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  Speaker 1: and no one really made the big mistake and ohio
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  Speaker 1: state won 14 to 7 because there was a lot
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  Speaker 1: of well just don't screw that up that's a very
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  Speaker 1: different approach yeah for both teams tonight.
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  Speaker 2: It almost feels like not that it's okay to make
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  Speaker 2: a big mistake don't be afraid to make a big
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  Speaker 2: mistake and trying to make a big play because i
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  Speaker 2: think This game, whereas last year a big mistake could
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  Speaker 2: cost you, I think it's the big plays that win
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  Speaker 2: the game this year. And in order to get those,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to have to take some chances, take some shots,
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  Speaker 2: be okay being aggressive, and then dealing with the repercussions
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  Speaker 2: of that. And if something bad happens, you still have
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  Speaker 2: enough time to go and continue to attack and overcome it.
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  Speaker 2: Whereas last year, 14-7, it felt like there weren't going
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  Speaker 2: to be a lot of touchdowns. I feel like there's
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  Speaker 2: going to be more points this year. So if something
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  Speaker 2: happens where you give up something– You know, you just
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  Speaker 2: keep attacking. As a great head coach once says, keep chopping.
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  Speaker 3: Yep. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And whoever wins this game, it will be going better
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  Speaker 1: than for the choppers of Piscataway, New Jersey. It has
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  Speaker 1: been going this year. I guess, to me, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of this game starts with the offensive lines on both teams.
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  Speaker 1: Because we watched Ohio State last week and went, oh, boy,
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  Speaker 1: this is not the offensive line that we were expecting.
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  Speaker 1: And then you watch Texas and you went, oh, boy,
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  Speaker 1: that's not the offensive line that they were expecting.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: How much of this game just boils down to who
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  Speaker 1: can open up the run lanes where you just have
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  Speaker 1: to have the running back go a couple yards before
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  Speaker 1: he gets hit, and then he can fall forward for
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  Speaker 1: a couple more. You need to knock a hit in
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  Speaker 1: the backfield. Texas had like a third of their rushes
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  Speaker 1: last week for no gain or a loss. They've got
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  Speaker 1: to be better up front this game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of it is just making third down attainable.
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  Speaker 2: So you get something on first, get something on second.
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  Speaker 2: And third and five, as opposed to a third and nine,
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  Speaker 2: third and ten, of course, is a win. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the offensive lines, whoever wins that wins the game,
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  Speaker 2: I think we would agree. And it's like if it
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  Speaker 2: is a stalemate, then what does that mean for the
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  Speaker 2: 50-50 plays? Who gets more of those? And if you
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  Speaker 2: do win the offensive line, can your defense hold up
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  Speaker 2: their end of the bargain as well and not give
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  Speaker 2: up some plays? But, yeah, I keep saying, like, as
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  Speaker 2: long as they protect Julian Sane, I like Ohio State's chances.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know– expecting a little bit of a run game,
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  Speaker 2: but not much. Like I'm not expecting necessarily, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: saying the run game, running game is going to be
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  Speaker 2: the difference. I think for both teams, I mean, if
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  Speaker 2: they run the ball, then, you know, that's, that's the difference,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm not expecting that. So it's almost like whoever
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  Speaker 2: protects the quarterback, the best difference maker here.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it feels like both teams have at least some
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  Speaker 1: questions in the secondary. I probably have more questions in
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  Speaker 1: the secondary for Texas than I do for Ohio state, probably,
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  Speaker 1: but I also probably have more questions about how much,
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State is going to be in danger of not
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  Speaker 1: being able to protect Julian Sane. I think Ohio State's
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  Speaker 1: defense probably won't be able to get to Arch Manning
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  Speaker 1: as much as Texas can get to Julian Sane, if
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  Speaker 1: all things being equal. But I think if Texas can't
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  Speaker 1: get to Ohio State, if Texas can't get to Julian Sane,
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be a much bigger problem than if
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State can't get to Arch Manning.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with that.
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  Speaker 2: I think both teams have playmakers, but Julian Sane is–
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  Speaker 2: the more accurate passer and the better thrower of the ball.
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  Speaker 2: But Arch Manning can do some things. He can avoid
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  Speaker 2: that pressure and get out of it, but what does
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  Speaker 2: he do after that? If he's just okay picking up yards,
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  Speaker 2: I think that's a win for Texas as well. I
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  Speaker 2: know I said take some swings. I would also say
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  Speaker 2: don't get greedy on some of these scrambles. Take what
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  Speaker 2: you can get there, but also these scramble drills could
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  Speaker 2: be the big play for Texas as the offense. Somebody
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  Speaker 2: breaks free from one of the Ohio State cornerbacks. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know that I see much of that happening for
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State. Their passing game seems to be more it's
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  Speaker 2: like It's controlled, it's predictive, whereas Texas is unpredictable in
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  Speaker 2: some of those scrambles. So it's almost like if Texas'
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  Speaker 2: plan goes according to plan, it's because some things didn't
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  Speaker 2: go according to plan.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Whereas for Ohio State, if everything goes according to plan,
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  Speaker 2: everything went according to plan.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Ohio State feels like they kind of have that
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  Speaker 1: German efficiency thing going where it's just going to be,
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  Speaker 1: ball's going to be out, it's going to be in
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  Speaker 1: the right spot, the receiver's going to be in the
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  Speaker 1: right spot, it's going to be boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
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  Speaker 1: Texas is going to be a little more Arch Manning
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  Speaker 1: gets out of the pocket and maybe he runs for
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  Speaker 1: a first down, or maybe he just buys some time
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  Speaker 1: and Cam Coleman or Ryan Wingo or Emmett Mosley gets
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  Speaker 1: open downfield and you hit something big there. It feels
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  Speaker 1: like Ohio state's probably going to do more in structure
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  Speaker 1: and Texas. If, if one of these teams is going
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  Speaker 1: to do stuff out of structure and have broken play
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  Speaker 1: turns into a big play, it seems like that's probably
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  Speaker 1: gonna be Texas.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. And that's something that they're going
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  Speaker 2: to have to worry about. And it's something where they
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  Speaker 2: tried to contain Arch Manning last year. Um, Has he
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  Speaker 2: grown enough as a passer to be accepting of that contain?
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  Speaker 2: That's fine. I'll stay in the pocket.
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  Speaker 1: I'll find somebody.
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  Speaker 2: I'll throw the ball. I'll get upfield, whatever. Whereas maybe
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  Speaker 2: last year doing a little bit more running around, feeling
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  Speaker 2: pressure that maybe was or maybe wasn't there. I think
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  Speaker 2: he has a better feel now for that pressure. But
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  Speaker 2: we have not seen him try to play contain. It's
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  Speaker 2: just one game last year against Ball State. I would
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  Speaker 2: be surprised if we didn't see some of that where
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  Speaker 2: he forced them And this is where James Smith and
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  Speaker 2: Nedric Houston can force the pressure inside, force him into
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  Speaker 2: the contain waiting for him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know. Last year, it felt like
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State was just trying to keep him in the
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  Speaker 1: pocket and force him to throw. This year, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know that that's as winning a formula because it feels
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  Speaker 1: like he's a much better thrower. There's still some holes
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  Speaker 1: in Arch Manning's game where some of the stuff that
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  Speaker 1: you normally see that's like, okay, well, that's the easy one. Slants,
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  Speaker 1: stuff like that, he completes like 50% of his slants,
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  Speaker 1: which seems like that's crazy low for a guy who
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  Speaker 1: can hit the deep ball, he can make other throws.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like he's not accurate. It's just there's certain
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  Speaker 1: stuff that he does better than, and Stark, I think,
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  Speaker 1: week one did a good job sort of steering away
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  Speaker 1: from some of the stuff that he hasn't done as well.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll see how that sort of adjusts things. Matt
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  Speaker 1: Patricia last year was able to sort of throw the
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  Speaker 1: kitchen sink at Texas and with a first, you know,
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  Speaker 1: basically a first year starter at quarterback and also no
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  Speaker 1: Matt Patricia college film whatsoever. I think they were able
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  Speaker 1: to catch Texas off guard. This year, there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: more Matt Patricia film. it's a different defense this year.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have an Arvell Reese and a Caleb Downs
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  Speaker 1: and a Sonny Stiles and a Caden McDonald where you
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  Speaker 1: can just sort of go, all right, we're just going
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  Speaker 1: to do this and you're going to out-talent people. So
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be a different defense than it was
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  Speaker 1: last year. But also I think you probably have a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more of a sense if you're Texas, what
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  Speaker 1: Matt Patricia is going to try and throw at you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And this is also where for like Julian said and
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  Speaker 2: Arch Manning, as Ryan Day would say, sometimes coaches have to,
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  Speaker 2: or the players have to make up for a bad call.
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  Speaker 2: This is where Arch Manning seeing what, he's seeing has
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  Speaker 2: to be able to one up the defensive coordinators plans
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  Speaker 2: and figure things out on the fly or be able
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  Speaker 2: to adjust after a series. And then, okay, this is
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  Speaker 2: what they were doing. This is what we need to
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  Speaker 2: do to counter that. And then it's just the back
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  Speaker 2: and forth of the defensive coordinator gets to experienced quarterbacks now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So this is going to be fun to watch where
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  Speaker 2: each defensive coordinator thinks they have the right plan and
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  Speaker 2: each offensive coordinator and quarterback and quarterbacks coach are all like,
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  Speaker 2: this is what we're doing when we, when they do this. And,
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  Speaker 2: This is how we're going to counter that. This is
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  Speaker 2: what we need to do now because this wasn't working.
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  Speaker 2: And also just even not even talking to anybody, just
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  Speaker 2: how are they operating when they're out there seeing what
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  Speaker 2: they're seeing? Are they seeing what they're seeing? Yeah. You know,
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  Speaker 2: whereas a coach will come, head coach or whomever will
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  Speaker 2: ask the quarterback, what are you seeing out there? And
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  Speaker 2: when quarterback says something and the coordinator or the head
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  Speaker 2: coach are like, well, that's not what's going on.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So you're seeing something that is not out there. And
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  Speaker 2: so you've got to get them on the right page.
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  Speaker 2: And basically are these quarterbacks, seeing what is actually going on.
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  Speaker 2: And then can they follow through on, well, how do
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  Speaker 2: we attack what we're seeing?
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  Speaker 1: Well, and it feels like the dynamics around those conversations
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  Speaker 1: have changed so much in the last couple of years
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  Speaker 1: because you have the helmet communications and that's obviously really
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  Speaker 1: changed the conversation. Like you get up to the line
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  Speaker 1: of scrimmage, 25 seconds left on the play clock, that
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  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator can be telling you what he's seeing right
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  Speaker 1: at the line and feeding you the information you need.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: The other thing that sort of changed the dynamics here
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: is those iPads in the sideline. And that's one of
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: those things we haven't talked about that much, but that
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: feels like, okay, what were you seeing on that play? Okay,
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: let me show you what you were actually seeing, even
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: though you didn't see what you, you know, here's what
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: was actually happening. And it's not, well, let's agree to disagree.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: It's here it is in living color.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember Ryan Day talking about that before where
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: a player would say something you couldn't fact check.
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: Now you've got fact checking. You can call for the
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: fact check and it's right here. You want me to
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: rewind it and fact check it again? You've basically got
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Snopes on the sideline there for you.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: So we talked a little bit about Matt Patricia going
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: up against Steve Sarkisian. And Steve Sarkisian, this is a
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: big game for him, not just as a head coach,
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: but as a play caller as well, because there was
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: a stat on game day this morning where they are
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: something like 23-1 against everyone except for Georgia and Ohio
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: State over the last couple of years. And they're 0-4
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: against 0-5 against Georgia and Ohio State.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: This is one of those mountains that they're going to
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: have to climb at some point. They want to get
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: to where they need to be and where they want
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: to be and where they expect to be. They're going
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: to have to climb over this mountain at some point. And,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: you know, this is not a game that is a
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: season ruiner, but boy, this would be a narrative changer
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: if they can get over that.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. To get a win here for Texas
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: and then to carry this on into the SEC schedule
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: and have that kind of momentum, have your players having
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: that belief that, They've done it, and they have a
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: quarterback that they can rely on and a defense that
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: they can rely on and a head coach that they
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: can believe in. For all of those reasons, this would
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: be a huge win for them. And then you're arguably
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: the number one team in the country. You can build
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: off of that, but you can't be satisfied with the win.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: I think it's the key that either coach or whatever
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: winning coach is, be like, well, this is just one win,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: and you've got to go get at least eight more.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Well, you get this win, and this is a great
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: start to a college football playoff resume. But you're not
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: there yet. This is a good line on your CV.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: This is not your whole resume. Other side of the
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: ball is really interesting to me because you've got a
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator for Ohio State in Arthur Smith. You've
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: got a new defensive coordinator for Texas in Will Muschamp.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Those are two guys who we have not seen go
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: against each other. We have not seen Will Muschamp as
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Texas' defensive coordinator. That feels like that's a fascinating matchup.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that to see the coordinators and
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: how they're operating against quarterbacks. And Tom, are you as
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: curious as I am about what's going on on the
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: other side.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Of the camera? I am.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering if we might need to relocate.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm wondering. So I don't know if you
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: want me to go check on that.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Why don't you go check on that? And I will
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: give people a look out the window right now and
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: let people see what we are looking at. Cause it
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: is a fantastic view here. We are in the South
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: end zone of, Daryl K. Royal Texas Memorial Stadium. The
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Texas dance team is out there working on a practice
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: routine right now. Again, we are about three hours and
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: 45 minutes or so from kickoff here.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Welcome in our buddy, Chuck Meletti in just a second.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Let you look out the window while he's getting all set.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: All right. You may need to turn off your phone
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: in your pocket.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Do that, don't we?
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: All right, so where we left off with Tony was.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: What's going on over there?
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: That's what I heard. That's the interesting question. Yes, that's
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: what Tony went to go explore. We're good?
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Okay. No, I was saying you're good.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, so that's fine. We'll wrap it up in 10
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: minutes or so. Where we left off with Tony was
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: the dynamics of Arthur Smith and Will Muschamp, and new
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Ohio State offensive coordinator with NFL background. We really haven't
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: seen the college Arthur Smith yet. I mean, we saw
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: him last week, but how much did we really see?
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: We haven't seen Will Muschamp call a defense in a
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: long time. He has the Herbie Smart tree, Nick Saban tree,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: but You assume, we talked earlier about how both teams
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: are kind of conservative last year. It feels like you
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: might have teams throwing haymakers on both sides of the
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: ball here.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: It feels like that to me, Tom.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: When we look at last year's game, which was so conservative,
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: don't lose the game.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Now you just got a totally different.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: Feel this year with two quarterbacks who are all grown
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: up now and they're veteran guys. And then with Muschamp,
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: who is by nature, he's always been a more aggressive
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: defensive coordinator. I just don't feel like we're going to
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: see that Pete Kwiatkowski plan of we're taking away Jeremiah Smith.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: At all costs.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Muschamp, I feel like he's just kind of a, I
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: don't mean to say ego-driven, but it's kind of like
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: a we're going to beat you doing what we best,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: we do best, rather than play it so conservative the
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: way we saw Texas play it in the last few years.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: So Art Smith, on the other hand, when we look
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: at what we saw in week one, number one, we
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: know that he's not going to be afraid to pick
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: up the tempo should he need to pick up the tempo.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: He did that in week one against ball state.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: So if he did it with them, he'll be free
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: to obviously to do it against Texas. If he thinks
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: that he needs to do that, to get an advantage,
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: keep a package on the field that he wants on
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: the field, et cetera. As Ohio state went from a
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: one 35th slowest in the country to 33rd fastest in
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: one week. So, Yeah, those are just my thoughts initially,
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: but as far as really what we saw last week,
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: other than that, I don't know that it was any indication.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: You know, it's just so up in the air.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: I think we'll get a real gauge after this one
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: as to what we're looking for throughout the rest of
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: the year.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: One thing that's an interesting dynamic with the new defensive
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: coordinator in Will Muschamp is Texas has approached Jeremiah Smith
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: in a great, we're going to take him away, someone
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: else has to beat us way, under Pete Kwiatkowski the
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: last couple years. Now that he's gone, you assume Muschamp's
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: going to be a little more aggressive. So does that
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: mean Jeremiah Smith gets more opportunities? He's had seven catches,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: 46 yards the last two games against Texas combined. I'm
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: guessing you're going to see more than that maybe in
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: the first half in this game.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: So we went nine targets week one with Jeremiah in
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: one half of play. And it just feels to me
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: like that is going to be the status quo, something
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: similar to like– obviously they were trying to get all
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: of his in one half, but like nine targets per game,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: like that's bargain basement right there.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: And that's going to happen. And whether, I mean, is
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: it forced? Yeah.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: But you can say like, you know, you can be
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: forced without forcing it, I guess is kind of what
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: I mean. But I think that there are a little
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: bit of the Jeremiah rules going on this year. I
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: think it's what we're going to see. He just looks
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: so dynamic. He lost a little bit of the bulk,
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: looks a little bit quicker. I think to all of
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: us out there, And it's just a whole other level
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: of cohesion between him and Julian this year. And he's
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: going to be a big part of every big game
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: Ohio State plays or they're not going to win.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: That's kind of how I feel about it.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Well, and last year when they took away Jeremiah, you
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: had Carnell Tate on the other side of the field.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: It was kind of like, okay, we'll throw it to
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the other guy who's going to be a top five
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: NFL draft pick. I don't know that they have another
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: top five NFL draft pick on the other side, but
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: they got Devin McEwen. And Devin McEwen is... When Ryan
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Day is throwing out Chris Alave comps on someone, I
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: think before he played his first game, I kind of
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: sit up and take notice and think, okay, this is
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: probably an indication that the good stuff we've been hearing
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: is probably representative of what we're going to see on
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: the field.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Devin looked great last week. He really has kind
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: of used the complete package, which is what we were
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: wondering when he came in.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Is this more of a yards after catch guy who can,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: you know, kind of he can be that guy and
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Jeremiah can go a little longer, but no.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: He can get it long.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Those out routes when he was stretching out on the
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: sideline looked beautiful.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: He played taller, I thought, than he looked. He just
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: played longer.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: And definitely he's a guy that can certainly, I think
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: he has the Vegas line, the yards, he was about
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: the same as Cam Coleman in this game with Jeremiah
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: leading all receivers.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: So they expect some good things out of him. I
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: do too.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: And I think that definitely he is a real solid
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: number two. No Carnell Tate, but what Ryan Day said
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: about him, he doesn't throw those kind of things out lightly.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: He knows exactly what he's doing.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: And one of the other sort of X factors here
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: is Legend Bay, where we saw him last week, 10 snaps,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: 8 touches. Now, there's no way you're getting that kind
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: of a ratio this week, but it feels like you're
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: going to see him out there because he's just one
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: of those guys who can do stuff that other people
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: can't do.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: You want to win a big game, You need game-breaking plays.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: You want game-breaking plays, you need game-breakers. And he is one,
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: maybe the most game-breaker play guy on this field tonight.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: And honestly, and this is one with tons of explosive playmakers.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: When we look at both sides of the field between
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Cam Coleman and Ryan Wingo and Hollywood Smothers and Raleigh
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Brown and everybody on the Buckeyes squad, you've got some
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: serious game-breakers.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: But Legend adds a little something different.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: A kid from Texas, North Forney High School, And I
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: think we're definitely going to see, at minimum, 10 snaps,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: 10 to 15. Definitely not going to be 80% touch
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: rate when he gets up there, but certainly going to
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: see some of him for sure.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Going to hit a couple things on the out-of-town scoreboard
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: right now. Number one, Michigan beats Oklahoma 17-10. That's, I think,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: safe to say a surprise. But, you know, in the
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Big Ten SEC narrative wars, probably, you know, the Big
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Ten has struck the first blow there. Going to be
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: a big one here on this field behind us later
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: tonight in terms of that whole conversation. Oregon currently trailing
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: 27-17 at Oklahoma State early in the third quarter. Super
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: chat from Robert Howard says Oregon looks like it could
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: keep getting better by the end of the season. They
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: could compete for the Big 12. We watched a little
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: bit of that game. Not a ton. It was on
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: kind of a quad box when we were watching earlier.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: But the offensive line didn't look great. I was a
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: little surprised. I mean, Oregon, I thought, okay, bad week one.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Slow start.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: But.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Week two, certainly, yeah, it's Boise. It happens. Week two, okay,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: you're going to take a step forward. You're playing a
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: team that lost at Tulsa week one, and they're down
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: 10 points in the third quarter. It doesn't mean they're
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: going to lose, but it's another week where it's like, oh,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: that's not what you're looking for there.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Definitely doesn't look like the team that, you know, between
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: Ohio State, Texas, Oregon, you know, those were kind of
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: the betting odds for, you know, who was going to
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: back and.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Forth win the national championship. They don't look like that.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: And failing to them, we'll see if they come back
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: and win. but it's the Michigan Oklahoma game that really
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: surprised the heck out of me.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: And I'm sure everybody else.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: As we talked all week, how could that line possibly
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: be so low and just Oklahoma minus five and a
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: half moved up to six and a half. And sure enough,
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: they knew more than us once again, out in Vegas.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, that was one where he kept saying,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: someone must know something. And yes, once again, yet again,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: someone has known, someone knew something out in our friends
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: in the desert. So we're going to wrap it up
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: because it's starting to get a little busier in here,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: but Let's get your score prediction for tonight's game. What
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: are you expecting to see tonight?
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: I'm expecting Ohio State to really click, things to go
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: really well on offense. Julian Sane plays another near-flawless game.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: Ohio State gets out early, and Texas claws back in
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: to make it 28-17. I think it's the Buckeyes in
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: a pretty handily fashion.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Tony and I actually picked the exact same score for
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the second straight week. We both had Ohio State 27,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Texas 24, and I went back and forth on this
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: quite a while because I think these are two teams
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: that have Similar strengths, similar weaknesses. I have questions about
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: both offensive lines. I think Texas' defensive line and defensive
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: front is more likely to be able to get pressure
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: on Julian Sane than Ohio State is on Arch Manning,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: at least consistently. And I think Arch Manning's probably a
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: little more able to avoid that pressure, at least a
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: little more consistently. But I believe in Ohio State's weapons
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: outside a little bit more. And I think, you know,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Hollywood Smothers versus, and Relique Brown against Bo Jackson and
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Jacoby Jackson and what does legend Bay do? It just,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: it feels like, and, and the other thing is, I
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: think I believe in Ohio state secondary, especially their outside
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: corners a little more than I believe in Texas is
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I think the crowd's going to be a factor tonight.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I think there's a very good chance this comes down
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: to someone making or missing a field goal. So, uh,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Connor Hawkins, welcome back to the, uh, the great state
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: of Texas and we'll see how, um, how your homecoming goes,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: because it might come down to how Connor Hawkins' homecoming goes.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be something, the first 50-yarder, and how long did.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: You say it's been? 2019 against Northwestern, the last time
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: we hosted, made a 50-yard field goal.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: That's something.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: So there you go. Give you kind of a quick
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: pregame show for you, live inside DKR. We were thinking, oh,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: maybe we could go outside. No, spoiler alert, we were
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: not going to do this outside, and there's sort of
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: a small area here, and we're going to end up
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: giving that up in just a minute to the people
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: that are actually supposed to be in here. So we'll
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: be back after the game with a whole lot of
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: postgame coverage. We're going to have our grand plan, and
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: we'll see how it all comes to fruition when reality hits,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: when it gets tested by reality. But the plan is
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: live Ryan Day postgame interviews. I'll try and get over
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: to Sark's postgame press conference. We'll see if we can
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: get some of that for you. We'll have Jack here
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: with Instant Reaction. Tony and I will have the Buckeye
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Weekly postgame show immediately after that. So That is already
• 27:56
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• 28:02
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• 28:04
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• 28:08
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• 28:21
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