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Patriots Unfiltered 1/13: Chargers Recap, Necessary Fixes, Divisional Round · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 3: If Heaven could just play this out in like a computer,
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  Speaker 3: you'd rather do that.
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  Speaker 4: But I'd rather just play the game and not deal
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  Speaker 4: with all the other nonsense.
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  Speaker 5: We're back, baby, yeah, but that's part of the fun.
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  Speaker 1: We're back in the mix of it.
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  Speaker 5: Like, you're too young.
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  Speaker 6: I literally was physically in New Orleans when they won
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  Speaker 6: their first Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm too young.
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  Speaker 7: It would be easy just to you know, I'm watching
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  Speaker 7: a random Bruins game on a Friday night with nothing
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  Speaker 7: to do, and hey.
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  Speaker 8: Put a couple of bikes on it.
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  Speaker 5: You might be tapping that appy it didn't work for
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  Speaker 5: a team.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know. I've never seen something like that.
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  Speaker 9: But if you look at the injury coort, everyone had
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  Speaker 9: hamster injury. Okay, if that allowed the league allow that?
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  Speaker 10: Are you allowed to have a hamsterm injury?
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  Speaker 8: You can hate Rogers, you scout.
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  Speaker 10: I don't really hate watch a lot.
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  Speaker 5: What will make Patriots fans more upset? That's what I
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  Speaker 5: want to have.
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  Speaker 10: So okay, so argue with the listeners and what can
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  Speaker 10: what can?
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  Speaker 6: So?
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  Speaker 10: What do we pick? What do we do?
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  Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now, Texans win Rogers doesn't even
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  Speaker 3: finish the game, and it's not because the score.
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  Speaker 10: Wow, jeez, nobody roots for injuries like they read. Outside
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  Speaker 10: of Lucas Oil Stadium next to a trash barrel, just
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  Speaker 10: with his head down, just strut who it wasn't a
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  Speaker 10: member of the show. It was used to produce the show.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, because he was drunk.
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  Speaker 5: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here
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  Speaker 5: at chi Lets Stadium and the season continues. Seventy five
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  Speaker 5: percent of the teams are on vacation.
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  Speaker 8: Eight left.
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  Speaker 5: The Patriots are one of them. Baby, shut up all
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  Speaker 5: those haters, right, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Them all up, shut up, take that soft schedule and
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  Speaker 4: shove it.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right. We're here.
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  Speaker 5: Just beat one of the best defenses in the league
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  Speaker 5: and one of our in our defense.
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  Speaker 10: Shut down.
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  Speaker 8: Who saw that coming? Justin herman?
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  Speaker 4: Do you know who's on the fraud watch is justin her.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever you think is gonna happen in the playoffs is
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  Speaker 3: probably not gonna happen.
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  Speaker 5: So this is unbelievable. We're on to the Houston Texans
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  Speaker 5: on on Sunday three o'clock.
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  Speaker 3: And here we go, Here we go. I mean, next
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  Speaker 3: stop AFC Championship. If you ask me, oh boy, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'll do my Thursday pick right now.
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  Speaker 7: I haven't even worked myself up the Texans yet.
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  Speaker 8: I'm getting I'll be there by tomorrow. I'm very concerned.
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  Speaker 5: Forget about tomorrow. Give it an hour.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's get right into it. It's Evan, it's Paul,
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  Speaker 3: it's me, it's Deuce, it's Matt and Alex. And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean six to three. No one saw that coming,
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  Speaker 3: no one saw that result coming. But here we are
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  Speaker 3: headed to the Divisional Round final eight. Feeling good, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: feeling really good about this team. I know, like you
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  Speaker 3: would hope that they'd have more than sixteen points, but listen,
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  Speaker 3: is everybody's first playoff game. Now you got that under
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  Speaker 3: your belt. I'm looking for more offensive production next week.
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  Speaker 5: I feel good.
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  Speaker 8: I feel good too.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, the way the defense played it was really encouraging,
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  Speaker 7: just to see them kind of come back to that form.
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  Speaker 8: I felt like that they had the beginning of the
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  Speaker 8: season when they were really healthy.
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  Speaker 7: But to me, it was a great sign of just
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  Speaker 7: you have that turnover, they take over at the ten.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, and this is a defensive and we all
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  Speaker 7: know it's been terrible in the red zone all year.
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  Speaker 7: To pitch a stop on you know, on fourth down,
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  Speaker 7: which is another part of it we can get into
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  Speaker 7: about what just take the points. It's you know, there's
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  Speaker 7: not gonna be nineteen points scored in this game and
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  Speaker 7: you're passing up three of them. But just an outstanding
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  Speaker 7: effort from the defense. I mean, Milton Williams, I mean
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  Speaker 7: when you signed him, everything you were hoping to get
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  Speaker 7: from that guy's an absolute beast.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the fact that they could win a
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  Speaker 6: fight this way is really encouraging because you're not going
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  Speaker 6: to win four straight games playing one way. You're gonna
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  Speaker 6: have to win different types of football games and games
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  Speaker 6: that declare different ways. This declared as a defensive battle,
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  Speaker 6: and their defense made more plays than the Chargers defense did,
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  Speaker 6: and your offense was able to find a little bit
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  Speaker 6: of something in the second half to move the ball
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  Speaker 6: enough to win the game. So you have one of
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  Speaker 6: those games, you know, I think this next one will
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  Speaker 6: probably be pretty similar, But at some point you might
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  Speaker 6: play a game that's thirty five thirty.
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  Speaker 4: And you might have to win it that way. You know,
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  Speaker 4: that's how the playoffs work.
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  Speaker 6: So the fact that they were able to win a
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  Speaker 6: slugfest against a really good defense and a really good
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  Speaker 6: quarterback is encouraging because I don't think that's the formula
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  Speaker 6: that most of us thought.
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  Speaker 4: They would win by.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, the defense was by far and away the best
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  Speaker 10: that I've seen it look in years, not just this year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 10: they haven't approached anything like that. Hats off to Zach Korr.
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  Speaker 10: This is my big message in the postgame show before
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  Speaker 10: Freddie and Mike came down to start with us, just
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  Speaker 10: all the different stuff that they did. Listening to Robert
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  Speaker 10: Splaine explain how the Chargers were going up to him
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  Speaker 10: after the game, saying that we didn't know what you've.
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  Speaker 4: Said A really good question you ever asked that? Oh,
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  Speaker 4: good job, ev.
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  Speaker 10: You know, just the Chargers players telling the Splaine that
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  Speaker 10: they didn't know exactly what they were seeing and they
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  Speaker 10: didn't know where the pressure was coming from. The coverages,
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  Speaker 10: and that's what it looked like. I thought Herbert was
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  Speaker 10: awful in the game, but I thought the Patriots made
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  Speaker 10: him look awful. It wasn't like he had all these
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  Speaker 10: throws that he couldn't make. He just didn't really seem
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  Speaker 10: like he knew what he was looking at. The pressure,
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  Speaker 10: obviously was overwhelming in the second half. Great great overall
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  Speaker 10: performance by the defense. It starts with Zach Korr. I
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  Speaker 10: think they really had some stuff for this game that
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  Speaker 10: we haven't seen a lot of.
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  Speaker 7: Inordinate you know, coordinating, the rush was making them sorry,
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  Speaker 7: the covers was making them hold it. The rush was
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  Speaker 7: getting home when they needed to get there. And you
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  Speaker 7: know those hits at the end, My god, I mean
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  Speaker 7: those that Efferny Jenny's hit. Those a couple of sacks
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  Speaker 7: at the end, there was like, oh boy, this is
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  Speaker 7: Herbert's going to be.
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  Speaker 8: Limping on it.
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  Speaker 13: This one.
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  Speaker 5: He got his ass kicked.
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  Speaker 6: He did, so, Yeah, Herbert had did not see the
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  Speaker 6: field well as us Bollnor is like to say.
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  Speaker 14: So.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I heard some talk that they looked unprepared.
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  Speaker 8: Do you think that that?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think there's definitely an element to that.
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  Speaker 5: I think they're certainly more prepared for what we did.
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  Speaker 5: They said it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I think the bigger thing though, was it's so clear
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  Speaker 6: that he had adjusted his internal clock for that offensive line,
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  Speaker 6: and he was like kind of seeing ghosts, like, you know,
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  Speaker 6: like there were times where he was starting to move
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  Speaker 6: and he was starting to scramble and not really allowing
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  Speaker 6: the plays to develop and not giving him that that
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  Speaker 6: extra beat to you know, mccacky's gonna uncover, but you
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  Speaker 6: got to hold the ball here just for an extra second.
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  Speaker 6: And he just wasn't willing to do that. So he
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  Speaker 6: did miss quite a few throws on the film. You know,
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  Speaker 6: it's easy to sit there and say that watching it
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  Speaker 6: on your couch at home.
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  Speaker 4: But he didn't miss quite a few throws.
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  Speaker 6: But it was because they had him sped up and
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  Speaker 6: he was not really willing to sit there in the
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  Speaker 6: pocket and wait for it to come open.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I thought they were going to force the charges into
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  Speaker 3: mistakes because they were scoring points the Patriots.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I didn't think it would be because of
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  Speaker 5: their defense.
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  Speaker 3: I thought they would just feel, you know, anxious, because
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  Speaker 3: oh you got to keep up with the Patriots.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, that was great. I mean that the amount
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  Speaker 10: of times that they did different things. I thought the
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  Speaker 10: coverage was a little bit better. I agree with that
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  Speaker 10: if I thought there were some plays that Herbert just
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  Speaker 10: didn't make, but I think the Patriots forced a lot
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  Speaker 10: of that. And it was like early in the game,
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  Speaker 10: I could hear, you know, and I mentioned this to
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  Speaker 10: Mike and Evan in front of us. I heard a
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  Speaker 10: couple of people talking. They were like, wow, you know,
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  Speaker 10: Herbert's really bailing out of the pocket too quickly. And
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  Speaker 10: that was true, but also in my view, understandable given
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  Speaker 10: what he's gone through all year. But yeah, at some
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  Speaker 10: point you have to you have to make some plays,
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  Speaker 10: and he missed them all, you know. And I was
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  Speaker 10: very critical of Harbaugh not just kicking a field goal
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  Speaker 10: and taking the lead when they got stopped after that
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  Speaker 10: red zone turnover. But that's a throw you got to make.
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  Speaker 10: He's got Keenan Allen there. It's not a you're not
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  Speaker 10: wide open or anything, but he's got a window to
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  Speaker 10: throw it to him. It was a little high. I
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  Speaker 10: thought it was weird that Alan never put his hands
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  Speaker 10: up because it looked like it was it looked like
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  Speaker 10: it was catchable, but I think he kept his his
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  Speaker 10: arms down thinking there might be a guy behind him,
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  Speaker 10: and I thought that was sort of emblematic of the
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  Speaker 10: entire game offensively for the Chargers. They just didn't look
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  Speaker 10: comfortable at any time of the game. They looked like
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  Speaker 10: they didn't know exactly what they were doing against what
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  Speaker 10: the Patriots were doing, and that again is a testament
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  Speaker 10: to the preparation. We talked to calebon Chasin after the
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  Speaker 10: game and he gave Cores a lot of credit for
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  Speaker 10: making it easy to understand what they wanted to do. Again,
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  Speaker 10: just dominant performance by the defense.
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  Speaker 6: It's probably going to lose Greg Roman his job, like
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  Speaker 6: their offensive coordinator, I think is going to be on
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  Speaker 6: any second now. We're probably going to get that notification.
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  Speaker 4: It was.
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  Speaker 6: It was ugly for Chargers perspective, but there was just
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  Speaker 6: a lot of instances where Herbert's eyes were just down
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  Speaker 6: at the rush and there's guys that maybe were open.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, he had Lad McConkey on a scramble drill
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  Speaker 6: that was he was twenty yards behind the defense with
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  Speaker 6: nobody on him, and he's scrambling to his right and
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  Speaker 6: his eyes are just down, so he's not looking down
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  Speaker 6: the field to be a thrower as he's scrambling. You know,
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  Speaker 6: instances like that that I think are good for the
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  Speaker 6: Patriots because Rabel will put those up and say, hey,
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  Speaker 6: you know, you guys did great, but there's still five
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  Speaker 6: or six things that we could do even better as
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  Speaker 6: they move forward here.
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  Speaker 3: So they'll be playing the Texans. We'll be having our
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  Speaker 3: eyes on the injury report to see the status of Gonzo.
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  Speaker 3: He's in the protocol right now. We'll see how that
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  Speaker 3: changes as this week goes by. Nico k for the Texans, ironically,
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  Speaker 3: there's probably also going to be in the protocol. And well,
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  Speaker 3: the way they took them off a cart with a
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  Speaker 3: towel over his.
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  Speaker 8: Head, yeah, they said, like needed a minute.
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  Speaker 10: Departures, you know, stumbling down the tunnel or getting a
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  Speaker 10: towel on your head and getting driven off not great
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  Speaker 10: for either side, but you never know. With concussions, sometimes
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  Speaker 10: they look bad and the guys come back. Sometimes they
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  Speaker 10: look harmless. And they're all three weeks. So hopefully both
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  Speaker 10: of these guys can play. But we'll see really well
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  Speaker 10: one of them at least. Yeah, I mean I like
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  Speaker 10: to see good players play.
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  Speaker 7: I like to win, No, I do to I mean,
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  Speaker 7: Nico Collins is an outstanding player, and I mean you
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  Speaker 7: saw Christian Kirk step up a little bit last night
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  Speaker 7: and really be his main outlet.
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  Speaker 8: But yeah, it's it's gonna be a new challenge.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't want to get to the Texans
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  Speaker 7: just yet, but I just was really impressed with with
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  Speaker 7: I mean one for ten on on defense from third
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  Speaker 7: downs for the Patriots. As you guys remember, I watched
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  Speaker 7: the third and mediums last week, but you know then
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  Speaker 7: the trend that always, you know, stood stood out to
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  Speaker 7: me was a lot of Macnky and Alan just with
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  Speaker 7: little sit routes, and I thought the Patriots did such
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  Speaker 7: a great job of kind of bracketing those with a
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  Speaker 7: safety and a linebacker and really taking those away. There
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  Speaker 7: were a couple of times where you could tell Herbert
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  Speaker 7: wanted to go there and Spallaine's jumping in front of him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: or you know, Craig Woodson I thought was really active
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  Speaker 7: in this game too, And it was just I think
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  Speaker 7: it's fun with watching defense when they're clicking like that.
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  Speaker 5: It's just it's all working. You talk about the impact.
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  Speaker 3: Williams had coming back, but Splaine, you know, it didn't
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  Speaker 3: really register on the stat sheet. I think he only
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  Speaker 3: had a couple of solos, but in no sacks. But
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  Speaker 3: like you said, just being there, getting everybody on the
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  Speaker 3: same page.
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  Speaker 7: You notice that, Yeah, I think that was part of
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  Speaker 7: the problem with some of their defensive struggles when he
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  Speaker 7: was out. There were just times where they weren't all
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  Speaker 7: on the same page, and you know, some half the
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  Speaker 7: lines doing one thing, the other ha's doing another thing.
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  Speaker 7: And I mean the famous play was Josh Allen's you know,
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  Speaker 7: last long touchdown that he where they broke contain and
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  Speaker 7: he was able to squirt out and make the throw.
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  Speaker 7: So you know, I think he's part of that communication.
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  Speaker 7: But it was just one of those instances where everybody's
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  Speaker 7: kind of clicking and the Corey Durdans of the world are,
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  Speaker 7: you know, making an impact. And that's just a great
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  Speaker 7: sign when you start to have players like that elevate.
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  Speaker 7: It's not something I think we've seen a lot of
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  Speaker 7: when the team is struggling, you don't really have gems
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  Speaker 7: that develop. I don't know if that's the function of
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  Speaker 7: that or just the lack of talent.
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  Speaker 8: But you know, guy like.
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  Speaker 7: Curry Jordan getting opportunities and now starting to deliver in
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  Speaker 7: just giving them a really good rotation along the defensive line,
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  Speaker 7: which I think they're they're leaning into playing a lot
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  Speaker 7: of guys.
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  Speaker 5: So those are all the good things really quickly.
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  Speaker 4: Robert Splaine absolutely outstanding in this game.
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  Speaker 8: Didn't look like an ankle engine anymore at all.
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  Speaker 6: Watching him communicate pre snap with the rest of the
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  Speaker 6: defense and be the field general out there and make
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  Speaker 6: the checks, and it was just phenomenal.
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  Speaker 5: Leads them. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: On the other side, you know, it's not like Drake Mayhead,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a perfect night. He was running for his
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  Speaker 3: life a little bit too. The left side of the
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  Speaker 3: Patriots line, everybody thinks had a lot of issues. Is
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  Speaker 3: it worth at least discussing the idea of Ben Brown
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  Speaker 3: coming back at left guard or is that a done deal.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's worth discussing.
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  Speaker 6: It was worth discussing last week, and clearly that you know,
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  Speaker 6: very able didn't feel like it was worth discussing. But
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  Speaker 6: I think it is worth discussing. But I also think that,
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  Speaker 6: you know, the McDaniels deserves a lot of credit for
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  Speaker 6: what they did in the second half. And I know
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  Speaker 6: it was a defensive game and the defense won it
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  Speaker 6: and all that, but McDaniels versus Jesse Minter was just like,
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  Speaker 6: to me, that is like as good as it gets
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  Speaker 6: from two elite schemers, and McDaniels got the Chargers into
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  Speaker 6: base defense a lot in the second half and they
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  Speaker 6: were able to throw. Basically all of their big plays
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  Speaker 6: in the second half came when the Chargers were in
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  Speaker 6: base defense, and they they kind of figured it out
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  Speaker 6: in the second half and they were able to make
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  Speaker 6: some adjustments and move the ball.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Drake was.
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  Speaker 6: Eleven for fourteen for like one hundred and seventy yards
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  Speaker 6: in the second half, so he was he was playing
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  Speaker 6: like Drake May for the most part, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 6: down the stretch there. So I just think that, you know,
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  Speaker 6: when you get into a game like this against a
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  Speaker 6: really good defense and a really good coordinator, you know,
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  Speaker 6: it's it's really cool to see the Patriots have an
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  Speaker 6: advantage in coaching and them to be able to go
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  Speaker 6: out there and have McDaniels say, this is what we're
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  Speaker 6: gonna do. You know, We're gonna run twenty two personnel
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  Speaker 6: and we're going to get them to put bass on
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  Speaker 6: the field against it, and then we're gonna throw out
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  Speaker 6: of it, you know, and that's gonna be the adjustment
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  Speaker 6: that we make. You know, those are the types of
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  Speaker 6: things that when you have a guy like McDaniels that
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  Speaker 6: is a great coordinator that you have the ability to
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  Speaker 6: do that. You know, if you're if you don't have
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  Speaker 6: a Josh McDaniels on the sideline, I don't know if
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  Speaker 6: you scored that last touchdown, you know, I think it's
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  Speaker 6: a much closer game.
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: Perfect pass, perfect pass.
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, perfect pass.
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: And again, you know that's that's We're gonna put big
• 15:01
  Speaker 6: people on the field. They're gonna match it with base
• 15:03
  Speaker 6: They're gonna match it with their big people, and we're
• 15:05
  Speaker 6: gonna get Hunter Henry you know, on a safety or
• 15:07
  Speaker 6: a linebacker here and Drake may Is gonna hit him
• 15:10
  Speaker 6: for a touchdown. Like that's that's all the chess match,
• 15:13
  Speaker 6: you know. And uh, when you the Chargers defense played
• 15:16
  Speaker 6: a really good game, a really good game, and Minter
• 15:19
  Speaker 6: now is getting all of his head coaching interviews lined
• 15:21
  Speaker 6: up and he's gonna probably be a head coach at
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: this cycle or next cycle.
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: Uh So that was that was really cool.
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: Like the defense for the Patriots was great, but but
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: seeing how did they they solved the problem? They that
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: they were going up against offensively. Was also really cool.
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: You're kind of game dues.
• 15:40
  Speaker 7: I know, it's interesting that just watching those kind of
• 15:45
  Speaker 7: games where it felt I mean, we know mentioned Super
• 15:48
  Speaker 7: Bowl face, which just one play is gonna make it here?
• 15:50
  Speaker 7: Is it gonna be a mistake? Is it going to
• 15:52
  Speaker 7: be a touchdown from Drake?
• 15:54
  Speaker 10: That's what it was. Reminded me that maybe he doesn't
• 16:02
  Speaker 10: make the absolute perfect throw this time there was three
• 16:05
  Speaker 10: guys around Henry and didn't matter. May put it right
• 16:09
  Speaker 10: in his hands.
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: Suggest I can't believe Derwin even came close to that,
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: but yeah, like he comes from the flat and just
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: like it, sees it at the last second and gets
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: gets deep and like the fact that he even came
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: close to.
• 16:19
  Speaker 10: It, that was in the combine.
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: But yeah, it really did play out a lot like
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: Super Bowl fifty.
• 16:26
  Speaker 8: Three and then seam it's it's the Henry times.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: The adjustment that they made was exactly the same. Yeah.
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: They they were playing the rams or playing Nickel all
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: game long and Patriots couldn't do anything and McDaniels went
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: twenty two. You know, two tight ends, two full backs,
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: one wide receiver. Put the big people on the field
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: get an extra linebacker out there and throw the ball
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: exactly what they did.
• 16:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, how about Remondri too, Like I just I feel
• 16:50
  Speaker 7: he's been outstanding, continued to be just such an X
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: factor for this playoffs going forward this weekend as well.
• 16:56
  Speaker 8: He really he's going to be another productive, another piece
• 16:59
  Speaker 8: they're going to need to use to exploit mismatches.
• 17:02
  Speaker 10: The catches have been really really big. Checkdown really big.
• 17:07
  Speaker 10: And you know, I thought Vrabel was interesting when we
• 17:10
  Speaker 10: talked to him yesterday. Mike, the pick comes and you know,
• 17:15
  Speaker 10: you get a deflection at the line. I don't put
• 17:17
  Speaker 10: those on quarterbacks, you know, for the picks, but it is,
• 17:21
  Speaker 10: you know, it's mentally it's on you. Like I just
• 17:24
  Speaker 10: had a little checkdown that got deflected and picked off
• 17:28
  Speaker 10: and put us in harm's way. They get a stop
• 17:30
  Speaker 10: and they took over the two yard line. The first play,
• 17:33
  Speaker 10: he runs a little checkdown that he's got to throw
• 17:35
  Speaker 10: the same kind of pass that just got tipped and intercepted,
• 17:39
  Speaker 10: and he's able to sort of and I think Vrabel said,
• 17:41
  Speaker 10: you know, change his arm, angle a little bit, get
• 17:44
  Speaker 10: it around the defender and make a play again. The
• 17:47
  Speaker 10: difference in this game was your quarterback. He wasn't great,
• 17:50
  Speaker 10: but he made plays that were able to get some
• 17:54
  Speaker 10: points on the board. Their quarterback didn't make any and
• 17:58
  Speaker 10: both defenses were really good. But the Patriots was just
• 18:01
  Speaker 10: a little bit better. And that was the difference in
• 18:03
  Speaker 10: the game. Is May made a couple of plays here
• 18:05
  Speaker 10: and there, and that's how they scored their points.
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: He still had three hundred and thirty yards of total
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: offense Drake May, did you know between the passing and
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: the rushing. So it wasn't like he didn't make any plays.
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: I think there was more like exchanging Haymakers in the
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: middle right where the Chargers made some plays.
• 18:20
  Speaker 10: And he also put the ball in Harm's way too often.
• 18:22
  Speaker 10: I mean had absolute chance for three turnovers. That's you know, absolutely,
• 18:26
  Speaker 10: but generally that's not You also had a forty two
• 18:30
  Speaker 10: yard pass, a thirty seven yard scramble of May made
• 18:33
  Speaker 10: just enough plays to make just enough points to win
• 18:36
  Speaker 10: the game. Yeah, that was the difference. Is Herbert didn't
• 18:39
  Speaker 10: make any He had opportunities. Evan just talked about a
• 18:42
  Speaker 10: couple of plays with Lad McConkey. I thought there was
• 18:45
  Speaker 10: the play down the sideline that Marcus Jones broke up.
• 18:49
  Speaker 10: I think should have been a touchdown. It's a bad throw.
• 18:51
  Speaker 10: Then throws them the play to Quinton Johnston that Gonzo
• 18:55
  Speaker 10: originally got called for passing the finance. They picked the
• 18:57
  Speaker 10: flag up, he's behind him, throw it out in front
• 19:00
  Speaker 10: of him. Now, maybe the wind had something to do
• 19:02
  Speaker 10: with some of the deep balls.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 19:04
  Speaker 10: You know, I'm not giving everybody a pass. But when
• 19:07
  Speaker 10: May had those opportunities, he connected with Booty, he connected
• 19:10
  Speaker 10: with Henry on the touchdown, and you know, he was
• 19:12
  Speaker 10: able to make some plays. Herbert didn't make any. That's generally,
• 19:16
  Speaker 10: you know, if your quarterback plays better than the other
• 19:18
  Speaker 10: team's quarterback, you're gonna.
• 19:19
  Speaker 15: Win with it.
• 19:19
  Speaker 8: It is.
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: You mentioned Marcus Jones two, another guy I just thought
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: was outstanding, you know, two third down pass breakups, the
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: force fumble. What a phenomenal year from him. And I
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: just love when you have a great year and then
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: you get into the playoffs and you keep doing it.
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: He does, he does.
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: And just this new level of physicality that I think
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: they scramble in the red zone was I mean, how
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: like I mean, that's a one on one tackle with
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: Justin Herbert. Freight rank coming to you and you've perfectly
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: executed a tackle to keep him down.
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: I mean that was remarkable. Fearless, Yeah, fearless.
• 19:51
  Speaker 10: Another example to me, and I made a big deal
• 19:54
  Speaker 10: of though, that there was three plays from Marcus Jones. Yeah,
• 19:56
  Speaker 10: because you guys know, I have a little bit of
• 19:58
  Speaker 10: a brush on it. So I made a big deal
• 20:00
  Speaker 10: of it. But that's another example of Herbert had an
• 20:03
  Speaker 10: opportunity to make a play. You have to score on.
• 20:05
  Speaker 8: That, right, Marcus Jones in.
• 20:07
  Speaker 10: The cornerback, chop it out there. You have to go
• 20:09
  Speaker 10: over him. There's no way that Josh Allen doesn't score
• 20:11
  Speaker 10: on that. Yeah, there's no way.
• 20:13
  Speaker 13: You know.
• 20:13
  Speaker 8: It was another one I saw too.
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: Maybe you caught this one was they had vital and
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: pass protection.
• 20:19
  Speaker 8: And Marcus Jones just blew him up.
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: I mean it's like five eight on five eight and
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: they're like, oh, this is kind a funny matchup, and
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: Marcus Jones blasted him.
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: So it's just he's playing outstanding and I'd love to
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: see him this week, maybe help the special teams. I
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: think that's an area maybe you can get some hidden yardage,
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: hidden points.
• 20:35
  Speaker 10: I thought that was another very underrated thing because you
• 20:38
  Speaker 10: look at his punt returns. He didn't have any yardage,
• 20:41
  Speaker 10: but I thought he was again really effective with his
• 20:44
  Speaker 10: decision making. There was one late in the half. It's
• 20:46
  Speaker 10: three to three. Again you're in that rock fight, and
• 20:49
  Speaker 10: it's a terrible punt by the Chargers guy. How many
• 20:53
  Speaker 10: times do you see those bounce and they take a
• 20:55
  Speaker 10: twenty yard bounce? Zulten Mesco made a career out of
• 20:58
  Speaker 10: every published to call it the Romanian biltan. So but
• 21:03
  Speaker 10: here here comes Marcus Jones flying up. Probably would have
• 21:09
  Speaker 10: liked to have seen him call a fair catch and
• 21:11
  Speaker 10: catch it, but he doesn't secures it, probably save twenty
• 21:15
  Speaker 10: twenty five yards of field position. They end up taking
• 21:18
  Speaker 10: over near midfield. Shortly thereafter, May takes off on like
• 21:21
  Speaker 10: a thirty five yard scramble and you get a cheap
• 21:25
  Speaker 10: three points, all because you're a punt returner makes good decisions.
• 21:29
  Speaker 10: It wasn't like he didn't have a twenty five yard
• 21:32
  Speaker 10: return to get the midfield, but he saved twenty five
• 21:35
  Speaker 10: yards of field position by going off to field. And
• 21:37
  Speaker 10: he does that every time.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: Instead of fielding one. I think he let one bounce
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: into the end zone. Yeah, he could judge him.
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: I mean punt returning in the NFL is one of
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: the skills in professional sports that just absolutely blows my mind.
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: He is watching the lost how Marcus Jones can catch
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: that ball and then get absolutely hammered by a guy
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: who's running full speed down the field and or make
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: somebody miss like I just that to me is an
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: athletic feet that I am consistently in awe of the
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: lost art.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: The guy on the bear is pretty good do for days.
• 22:06
  Speaker 10: He's pretty good.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: But there's not a lot of them that especially the
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: things we're talking about in terms of like deaking on
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: backup on the goal line or fair catching it to
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: feel save the field position. Like there's guys that can return, obviously,
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: but there's not guys that know the art of it
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: like he does.
• 22:22
  Speaker 10: That was a thirty three yard punt. Do you know
• 22:24
  Speaker 10: how short that is in the NFL? And he was
• 22:27
  Speaker 10: up to make sure it didn't hit the ground. That's
• 22:30
  Speaker 10: a great play, right. There was a two yard return.
• 22:32
  Speaker 10: Nothing special about the return, but it allows you to
• 22:34
  Speaker 10: take over at the forty six yard line. That directly
• 22:38
  Speaker 10: leads to three points in a game that was three
• 22:40
  Speaker 10: to three at the time. That's a that's a big
• 22:42
  Speaker 10: play and he does that kind of stuff consistently, all right, eight.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Five five PATS five hundred is the hotline podcast at
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Patriots dot com is the email address.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: I think I think it feels like we should just
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: open it up right yeah, to the listeners right now? Sure,
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, anything else you need to put on the
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: table here, I mean we can talk a little bit
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: about it. I think you know, I had a what
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: do you think the chances are that Tomlin parts ways
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: with the Steelers and Harbaugh and he flip flop goes
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: to the Steelers.
• 23:17
  Speaker 10: I think there's yeah, I think there's a chance that
• 23:19
  Speaker 10: Tomlin could could step away. I think there's Man, I
• 23:22
  Speaker 10: don't know, twenty I don't see them switching.
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: I just I think they're if they're going to step
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: away from that kind of coach, you're going to try
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: to go into a different direction, you would think in
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: terms of the style of higher that you make. Like
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: at that point, they're like doing the Spider Man man
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: like these people are the same people.
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: Like, Okay, bringing up a tough coach.
• 23:43
  Speaker 10: I'm gonna need to explain to me.
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: Later, Spider you know, Spider Man point and Spider.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Man theme where they say each other the two Spider
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Man's No, you never saw that.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Okay, can I put one one later?
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: Little they want to play put it.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: It's not nitpick. It's more of a concern than nitpick.
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: The Chargers completely took digs out of this game, and
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: they he got the wide receiver one treatment.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: He was getting doubled, he's getting bracketed.
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: They're dropping guys off the line of scrimmage into his
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: area of the field. And you know, I thought that
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: early on in this game, in the first half. It
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: threw them off, the Patriots. It threw them off because
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: I think, you know, he's going to be number one
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: in the progression a lot, and when one isn't there,
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: you know that that often can throw quarterbacks off. And
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: whether it's trying to figure out ways to get digs
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: open or understanding you know, okay, they're going to probably
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: double digs on this third down. So I'm gonna have
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: to start with my eyes going elsewhere. I haven't seen
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: a Patriot receiver get this much attention in a in
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: a game in a long time. You know, he was,
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: he was getting bodies at him all the time, and
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: so I'm interested to see how that continues as we
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: move forward. You know, just watching the Texans a little
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: bit this morning, they did double DK quite a bit,
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: and I would just imagine they're going to just copy
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: paste what they did to DK and they're gonna paste
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: it down on Stefan Diggs this week.
• 25:09
  Speaker 10: So it's not enough from the other guys to overcome
• 25:13
  Speaker 10: that year.
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: I think Booty did make a couple plays, and you
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: know a lot of those were at least one of them,
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: the forty two yarder was on a play that Diggs
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: was doubled on, so they were able to take advantage
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: of it a little bit. But that's I think how
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: teams are going to make them. You know, win is
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: we're going to take eight out.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Diggs is not beating us, you know. Can it be Booty?
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Can it be Hunter Henry?
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: You know there's no Mac Collins right now, so it's
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: got to be one of these other guys.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd just love to see I know, you guys
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: make fun of me, but just some real quick slants
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: just to get it out of Drake May's hands really quick.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: They're almost impossible to cover.
• 25:50
  Speaker 10: I don't make fun of you for that. It's usually
• 25:53
  Speaker 10: the guy that you say, could catch ten passes a
• 25:54
  Speaker 10: game that I tend to make fun of.
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: That's what the charges were taking away. They or that's
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: what they were taking away. And all the little options
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: and all the little choice routes that they run with
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: digs that are over the middle that are designed to
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: get the ball out of his hands quickly. They had
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: you know, two guys on them for most of them,
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: so you know that was you know, Drake May said
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: after the game that he felt like he held the
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: ball a lot, and I thought he held the ball
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: because of the coverage. You know, they were taking away
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: one and so he had to progress two three, and
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: in this game against Houston to do that, it's one
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: two and.
• 26:28
  Speaker 10: Go, like there was no do right.
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: I know you can feel it right, you were.
• 26:32
  Speaker 10: You were listening to the broadcast. I know you always
• 26:35
  Speaker 10: have your TV on, but sometimes yeah, so were they
• 26:38
  Speaker 10: making you know, from talking to some people talking not
• 26:41
  Speaker 10: like football people like talking was like no, like my friends,
• 26:44
  Speaker 10: I want to, I don't want to, you know, it's like, yeah,
• 26:46
  Speaker 10: well I was talking to Bill felt. No you weren't.
• 26:48
  Speaker 10: You were in a press conference. You listened just like
• 26:50
  Speaker 10: everybody else. But so I don't want to make it
• 26:52
  Speaker 10: sound like this was a football thing. This is just
• 26:54
  Speaker 10: like people making observations, and they said that College WITHO
• 26:57
  Speaker 10: was making a big deal of bolts sides. Herbert in
• 27:01
  Speaker 10: May was sort of you're not going to be able
• 27:04
  Speaker 10: to sit back there for twenty minutes and dissect what's
• 27:06
  Speaker 10: going on. If if what you see is not there,
• 27:09
  Speaker 10: then tucket and run. That seemed to be like the
• 27:13
  Speaker 10: game plan going in and both guys, you know, were
• 27:17
  Speaker 10: fairly productive running the ball. But I wonder if maybe, yeah,
• 27:22
  Speaker 10: he the coverage was was more of an issue in
• 27:25
  Speaker 10: this game than than I think we've been given it credit.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: I think a couple of times he mentioned the legs
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: of the quarterbacks are going to be the determining factor
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: of the.
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: Game, Collinsworth mentioned that, Yeah, I wouldn't say that. I
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: think Drake may had more of an opposite problem in
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: this game. I think he was taking too much time
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: in the pocket. I mean they're getting strips ACKed like that.
• 27:43
  Speaker 10: Oh, I think he was too casual in the pocket.
• 27:45
  Speaker 10: They would They were talking more so about the second
• 27:48
  Speaker 10: part for Herbert. Yeah, and I think that that was
• 27:50
  Speaker 10: a problem for him because I think that he didn't
• 27:52
  Speaker 10: let things develop talking.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: About early on, I thought the offensive line did a
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: pretty good job protecting. I thought, but he had time
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: and almost got too comfortable.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: Back there, you're.
• 28:02
  Speaker 10: Talking about Herbert or may may Well. I didn't think
• 28:05
  Speaker 10: the protection was very good in this.
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: I thought earlier it was.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: I thought he had time, he just didn't have anybody open,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: and then he just didn't do anything with it.
• 28:12
  Speaker 10: And to me, it's not even that their covered sacks
• 28:15
  Speaker 10: as much as once the pressure has established itself, in
• 28:18
  Speaker 10: other words, someone's on his legs or someone's around him,
• 28:21
  Speaker 10: the play's got to end there. But you can't have
• 28:24
  Speaker 10: the fumbles when it's like the second guy hitting the.
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: Quarterback can't happen this week. It cannot happen this dame.
• 28:30
  Speaker 10: That's what they're looking for, you know. Yep, Like in
• 28:35
  Speaker 10: Houston's having the same conversation. Houston's offense was actually pretty
• 28:38
  Speaker 10: good last night against Pittsburgh. I mean, I think they
• 28:41
  Speaker 10: would take four hundred yards of offense and the amount
• 28:44
  Speaker 10: of drives they had just true. You can't have your
• 28:46
  Speaker 10: quarterback fumble five times because he's playing like a moron.
• 28:49
  Speaker 10: And that's I'm sorry, that's what it was. He played
• 28:52
  Speaker 10: a terrible game, and if they do that again, they're
• 28:55
  Speaker 10: gonna lose. You can't win by putting the ball in
• 28:58
  Speaker 10: harm's way six times with your quarterback.
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: Actually the snaps snaps, I mean five times.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: There was two bad snaps, five.
• 29:06
  Speaker 10: Fumbles, but he had he had five fumbles and a pick.
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: Yes, And it was bizarre and it was just yes,
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: like that was They weren't like the most perfect snaps
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: every time.
• 29:19
  Speaker 10: One of the most times one of them was snapped
• 29:21
  Speaker 10: when he wasn't looking, and I don't think that goes
• 29:23
  Speaker 10: on him as one of the fumbles, but the others
• 29:27
  Speaker 10: were just like right in his hands. You know, it
• 29:30
  Speaker 10: was a shame. You talk about trick plays like the
• 29:32
  Speaker 10: Patriots had one dialed up and Drake is wide open,
• 29:35
  Speaker 10: you know, touchdown. The Texans had a touchdown on the
• 29:38
  Speaker 10: flea flicker last night. But you know what threw that
• 29:40
  Speaker 10: playoff was the flip back to the quarterback was too high,
• 29:44
  Speaker 10: you see, like he kind of like, yeah, it's like
• 29:47
  Speaker 10: in baseball when the first basement leads the pitcher, you
• 29:51
  Speaker 10: don't want to loop it and throw his stride off.
• 29:53
  Speaker 10: He got too much air under it, and that's why
• 29:55
  Speaker 10: he ended up getting stripsacked on that play. If he
• 29:58
  Speaker 10: had just thrown it right to to Stroud, I think
• 30:00
  Speaker 10: he would have been able to throw it and the
• 30:02
  Speaker 10: guy was open. Did That's never know because it was
• 30:04
  Speaker 10: a strip sick?
• 30:05
  Speaker 8: Did that surprise you guys at all that in a
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: playoff game they let f and Chisholm throw a pass
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: to Drake May I was a little bit surprised by that.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: Well, that's the point you want to be surprised.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: I knew someone was up when he lined up out wide.
• 30:16
  Speaker 10: I was like, why is he blocking?
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: And of course it's seconds it's a double pass and
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: I was like, okay, that explains it.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: You know, it was weird, like he was.
• 30:31
  Speaker 10: Just another one that wasn't blocked well enough. There was
• 30:33
  Speaker 10: way too much penetration on the left side, which I
• 30:36
  Speaker 10: don't blame Chisholm on like he I think he did
• 30:38
  Speaker 10: a good job making sure he got got the ball
• 30:41
  Speaker 10: away and didn't take a loss.
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: Those are tough ones because of the illegal man downfield penalties,
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: so like you can't really engage the blocks like right
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: away because of the reverse because then if you get
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: down the field, then even if he hits Drake, then
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: it's going to get called a penalty and it's going
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: to get wiped out. But as soon as I saw
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: how wide, I was like, well that ain't normal. And
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: then of course, you know, run a trip.
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: All right again?
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: Eight five to five Pats five hundred. Let's open it up.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: We'll start with Dan in Daytona. What's up Dan?
• 31:12
  Speaker 9: Hey you guys, how you guys doing to that?
• 31:14
  Speaker 15: We keep it pretty short today.
• 31:17
  Speaker 16: I got a couple of things I wanted to mention. First,
• 31:20
  Speaker 16: I love the team defense. That was amazing and uh,
• 31:23
  Speaker 16: I think every sports broadcaster was saying that they did
• 31:26
  Speaker 16: not expect them from the Patriots. Second thing, Mark Mabel
• 31:31
  Speaker 16: was pretty funny at the end with the Millton Williams.
• 31:34
  Speaker 16: The third thing, Drake May with the strips, acts like
• 31:39
  Speaker 16: you guys kind of I think they should clean that up.
• 31:41
  Speaker 16: And then the last thing I have for you guys
• 31:43
  Speaker 16: is Ben Brown. I think there's no question he has
• 31:47
  Speaker 16: to be in if we're gonna win against texcause I
• 31:49
  Speaker 16: just watched him last week. It was for yesterday and
• 31:53
  Speaker 16: they made Aaron Rodgers look bad.
• 31:55
  Speaker 17: So what do you guys think about that?
• 31:58
  Speaker 10: Well?
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: See, I mean I wonder if the coaching staff feels
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: like Jerry Wilson missed a couple of weeks, and yeah
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: that it was in his best effort. But with the
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: playoff game under his belt and knocking the rust off,
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: maybe they believe that he'll be better this week. But
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: I agree that the challenge is only going to get
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: harder for these two guys, and you know, maybe you
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: got to live with some lumps.
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: We've been saying it all.
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I will just say I like the fact that
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: one of the biggest stories coming into the season was
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: the Patriots having to remake the offensive line, and we
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: plenty of time debating Will Campbell and would he be
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: the left tackle?
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: And you know, really, now, what's standing in front of
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: you to.
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: Get to the AFC Championship is largely a sound offensive
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: line performance and protection in this game.
• 32:35
  Speaker 8: So it's like when those things come.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Full circle, and yeah, it'll be a true test, true
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: test Todd's and Gardner.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: What's up, Todd?
• 32:46
  Speaker 18: I got three quick points. I did say that this
• 32:50
  Speaker 18: was going to be a slobber knocker if for our
• 32:52
  Speaker 18: outside receivers didn't get at least two touchdowns. So I
• 32:55
  Speaker 18: kind of felt that this game was going to be
• 32:57
  Speaker 18: tough if we couldn't get somebody other than you know
• 32:59
  Speaker 18: dig is in our tight ends going. Okay, I think
• 33:03
  Speaker 18: you'll remember we called it a slobber knocker.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: Slabber knocker, that's correct, yep.
• 33:08
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 33:09
  Speaker 18: So the next thing is I would like the uh,
• 33:12
  Speaker 18: the brawl between Fred and Paul over Chisholm to have
• 33:16
  Speaker 18: a name like the you know thrilla in Manila. I
• 33:19
  Speaker 18: think we need to call it maybe the Chisholm Schism
• 33:21
  Speaker 18: or something. And you guys need to revisit that a
• 33:24
  Speaker 18: few times.
• 33:25
  Speaker 10: Because I gotta be honest, I don't have enough invested
• 33:29
  Speaker 10: in that one to I can argue anything, but I
• 33:32
  Speaker 10: don't care enough about that one.
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 33:35
  Speaker 18: And the third thing is kind of for everybody but
• 33:37
  Speaker 18: deuced because he's just a d guy than you. What
• 33:41
  Speaker 18: the pressure?
• 33:43
  Speaker 15: What can they do to stop the pressure.
• 33:45
  Speaker 18: That the Texans are going to try to bring? Like
• 33:47
  Speaker 18: are they going to do a lot of chipping? What
• 33:48
  Speaker 18: do you guys think?
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: Like?
• 33:49
  Speaker 18: What is can they move the pocket? Can they do
• 33:51
  Speaker 18: like a combination of things? What do they need to
• 33:53
  Speaker 18: do to keep that textan well? Keep them out of
• 33:56
  Speaker 18: Maya space? And that's it, great show, guys.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: Receivers Open was established the run, so that play action
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: could like a little bit of a meaning.
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: Like that, just.
• 34:07
  Speaker 10: Say, and I don't want to waste place.
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think you have to stay balanced, and
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: I think that that will be important kind of like
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: they did in this game against the Chargers. It wasn't
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: like a great rushing effort, but at least they were
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: getting like three or four yards pop.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, to keep balanced.
• 34:20
  Speaker 10: Even Sitt and Henderson averaged about like four to one,
• 34:23
  Speaker 10: you know, which is was eight I think they had,
• 34:27
  Speaker 10: so it was you know, I think nineteen for eighty.
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: They had even more effective than Henderson by following. But
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: that is you know, when you go up against a
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: great run defense like these two defenses, if you're averaging
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: four yards of carry, then you're doing your job on
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: the ground.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: Rh just stay on schedule.
• 34:43
  Speaker 10: And just players that can't he can't get sacked. You know,
• 34:45
  Speaker 10: I don't want to abandon the run because they I
• 34:48
  Speaker 10: think Evan's right, Yeah, I think you get some value
• 34:50
  Speaker 10: in that one thing, you know. I mean, I know
• 34:54
  Speaker 10: Wednesdays usually when we looked ahead to the net, but
• 34:56
  Speaker 10: I mean in the playoffs, yeah, it's the playoffs. It's
• 34:59
  Speaker 10: about the Texans now, right, you move on and it's
• 35:02
  Speaker 10: the next one. I thought watching the game last night,
• 35:06
  Speaker 10: I mean, I was incredibly impressed with Houston's defense like
• 35:09
  Speaker 10: everybody else. So I'm not telling you, but like any
• 35:12
  Speaker 10: defense is beatable if you can execute. And I thought
• 35:16
  Speaker 10: there was a handful of times last night that Aaron
• 35:18
  Speaker 10: Rodgers did a good job, either by design. There was
• 35:21
  Speaker 10: one that they rolled him out, and I think he
• 35:23
  Speaker 10: had like a nice little drag route by Metcalf for
• 35:25
  Speaker 10: like twenty five yards, and there was other times that
• 35:29
  Speaker 10: he did a good job avoiding that edge pressure that
• 35:31
  Speaker 10: sort of materialized right away and he broke the pocket.
• 35:34
  Speaker 10: Now the problem for Rogers now at whatever year twenty
• 35:38
  Speaker 10: or whatever it is, he just doesn't have it anymore
• 35:40
  Speaker 10: to be able to operate as well off platform. He
• 35:44
  Speaker 10: was at one time as good as anybody doing that.
• 35:46
  Speaker 10: He can't do that anymore. Drake may can't. So you're
• 35:50
  Speaker 10: asking me what can they do? Do they move the pocket?
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 35:53
  Speaker 10: I think that Josh would probably be wise to move
• 35:56
  Speaker 10: the pocket a couple of times. I also think Drake's
• 35:58
  Speaker 10: going to have some opportunity is where Will Anderson and
• 36:02
  Speaker 10: Daniel Hunter are going to beat their guys. But he's
• 36:04
  Speaker 10: not going to get sacked. Now what happens. Now you
• 36:07
  Speaker 10: get those opportunities to make some plays. And I do
• 36:10
  Speaker 10: think the one area that the Texans looked like a
• 36:13
  Speaker 10: little vulnerable to me is down the field. I think
• 36:16
  Speaker 10: you can beat them over the top. I think the
• 36:17
  Speaker 10: Steelers had a couple of guys open over the top
• 36:20
  Speaker 10: last night and one Rogers got strip sacked. I think
• 36:24
  Speaker 10: it would have been a touchdown to Metcalf and a
• 36:26
  Speaker 10: drop and one with the the one that that I
• 36:30
  Speaker 10: think he slightly underthrew last got his hands on him
• 36:35
  Speaker 10: in Austin almost caught the deflection.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: Also at Austin, they thought that Steelers wanted DPI, but
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: Austin had to step on them.
• 36:42
  Speaker 10: He did again Metcalf dropped one.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know if to say it is ready for area.
• 36:48
  Speaker 10: Dude, I don't know if you do not agree with
• 36:51
  Speaker 10: my assessment.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: I think you were spitting facts.
• 36:56
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I know Haven's got some take development going.
• 36:59
  Speaker 10: I just you know, it's funny because I said, you know,
• 37:02
  Speaker 10: Mike and I we have to tape the Patriots Unfiltered
• 37:04
  Speaker 10: TV show, and we always have the C block, I think,
• 37:09
  Speaker 10: or the B block.
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: I don't know one of them TV.
• 37:11
  Speaker 10: I just talked one of the one of the blocks
• 37:13
  Speaker 10: schedules we always do on the opponent, and I always
• 37:17
  Speaker 10: like sort of thoroughly read don script and I look
• 37:20
  Speaker 10: at the stats and g why to do any of
• 37:22
  Speaker 10: that last night because I just watched sixty minutes of
• 37:24
  Speaker 10: the Texans play and I felt like, I, you know again,
• 37:27
  Speaker 10: I'm going to guess that that's pretty typical of the
• 37:30
  Speaker 10: way the Texans have played defense based on their numbers,
• 37:33
  Speaker 10: Like it wasn't like there's the ordinary, you know performance.
• 37:37
  Speaker 10: I'm going to guess that that was what they've been
• 37:38
  Speaker 10: doing for most for the most part this year. I
• 37:41
  Speaker 10: watched a little of them, you know here in their highlights.
• 37:44
  Speaker 10: I think you can get over the top of them.
• 37:45
  Speaker 10: I think their two corners are outstanding, but they're really
• 37:48
  Speaker 10: aggressive and they want to come up and hit you.
• 37:50
  Speaker 10: They want to tackle, and I think you can get
• 37:52
  Speaker 10: behind them if you can get a little bit of
• 37:54
  Speaker 10: time to do it. And I think may can buy
• 37:56
  Speaker 10: that time.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I want to empty the clip
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: just yet, because it's all just.
• 38:04
  Speaker 10: You all.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: You just did it just by watching, which is impressive.
• 38:07
  Speaker 10: That's kind of what you know.
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: So there is a handful of things about this Texans
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: defense that is phenomenal. It's a really good defense. I'm
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: not trying to come here and say.
• 38:17
  Speaker 10: I'm not either. I'm not tellingrated because I don't think
• 38:20
  Speaker 10: I didn't see anything that was over rated last night.
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: There's a couple of things though, just underneath the hood
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: about their defense that I think Drake may can exploit.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: They're fourteenth in the league and explosive pass plays allowed not,
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: which is middle.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: Of the pack.
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: So for a number one defense in the league, you
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: don't expect to see them in the middle of the pack.
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: So they do give up some big plays over the
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: top in the passing game. They are number two in
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: the or thirty first, let's go that way. They're thirty
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: first in the league against scrambles. Does anybody have any
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: guess who's thirty two.
• 38:56
  Speaker 10: Chrodgers?
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: No?
• 38:57
  Speaker 10: Oh, I just thought because they just the Broncos down.
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: The San Francisco forty nine ers who run the same
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: system that the Texans do.
• 39:05
  Speaker 10: In depth ball, right, we're connecting tots depth.
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: This is seems to me because they only rush four guys,
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: they don't blitz, they only bring.
• 39:14
  Speaker 8: Four nickel rush four.
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and when there's only four guys in the rush
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: and you play a lot of zone, especially soft zone,
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: there's gonna be space underneath for the quarterback to run.
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: So they give up a lot of scramble yards. They
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: give up a lot of you know, decent amount of
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: big plays in terms of.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: What about it When I when you said they're thirty
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: first against the scrap, I thought you meant scramble and
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: then big play.
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: But you talking about actual rushing rushing yards.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, not not not design quarterback off of scrambles.
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: No, not like not like scrambled drills or extended plays.
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: I'm talking about actual rushing yards by the quarterback. So
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: scrambled not good, deep passes middle of the pack, but
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: for a defense that good, not particularly great. The other
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: thing that I look at with them, too is can
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: the Patriots get them to play some more bass by
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: going six to zero line, and that of course would
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: then give you an extra guy on the line of
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: scrimmage to help you pass protect as well, and which.
• 40:16
  Speaker 10: They did a little bit in the second half where
• 40:17
  Speaker 10: you said that they sort of got going. They was
• 40:19
  Speaker 10: more Munford in the second half. That certainly in the
• 40:22
  Speaker 10: first I don't even remember.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: I hate when you have to do that, but I
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: know you have to sometimes.
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and that that some teams have found some success
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: doing that against them going big, getting them to go
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: big against it, and then passing out of the jumbo set.
• 40:39
  Speaker 10: So yeah, it's not. And then I think you're talking
• 40:41
  Speaker 10: about like you hate when you have to do that,
• 40:42
  Speaker 10: like you're max protecting. It's not necessarily because you're worried
• 40:46
  Speaker 10: as much about the rush. You're trying to get the
• 40:47
  Speaker 10: defense to be in the personnel groups that you want
• 40:50
  Speaker 10: them to be in. Right, You're trying to adjust their
• 40:52
  Speaker 10: personnel groups. And I think that works because I think
• 40:55
  Speaker 10: Evan's right. I think a couple of the big again,
• 40:59
  Speaker 10: I'm just trying to remain I think the forty two
• 41:01
  Speaker 10: yard or the booty down the sideline was one of
• 41:03
  Speaker 10: those plays. And I think a touchdown yep, both of
• 41:06
  Speaker 10: them are one of those plays.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: So so it's not just like we're going to power
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: up and run the balls of dust because we're trying
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: to keep them at bay.
• 41:15
  Speaker 10: No, they're they're trying to throw some haymakers.
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: One of the more underrated players in their defense is
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: Jalen Petrie, who is really really good and he plays
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: the nickel, so when you get them into base he
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: plays more of like a traditional safety, and so then
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: they can get linebackers in safeties that aren't exactly the
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: better cover guys into coverage situations. So just some of
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: the things that you look at with this Texans defense,
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: just last one. They are very stagnant defense. They just
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: do what they do. They line up and play. They
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: don't disguise, they don't disguise pressure, they don't disguise in
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: the back end. This is one of the simplest defenses
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: that they'll face all year. They're just really really good
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: at it, and they have great players. But when you
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: go up against a great play caller like Josh McDaniels,
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: if you're just gonna sit in the same coverages all
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: game long, I like your chances, Like I like your
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: chances of him finding ways to scheme guys open. So
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: I do think there are some things that are a
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: little bit weaknesses for the Texans that the Patriots can exploit.
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just gonna say watching some of the Seattle game,
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: I mean, they don't have JSM, but JSN had success
• 42:23
  Speaker 7: downfield against them.
• 42:24
  Speaker 8: I mean, I know.
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: He's the best receiver in the league, so not apples apples,
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: But that was something I noticed too, that if you
• 42:30
  Speaker 7: can get it up there, that they can be had.
• 42:32
  Speaker 10: That was also very early in the year, when they
• 42:34
  Speaker 10: weren't the Texans yet. I mean they were one in five.
• 42:37
  Speaker 10: I think they were Owen three to one and five.
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it was a good game.
• 42:41
  Speaker 10: We're around here. We throw away the Raiders and Steelers games,
• 42:44
  Speaker 10: right right, So I'm sure that the you know, Matt
• 42:48
  Speaker 10: Burke and the Texans defense throws away you know, a
• 42:51
  Speaker 10: lot of September too. They didn't get off to a
• 42:53
  Speaker 10: great start.
• 42:53
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean you.
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: Talk about a team though, that's that's played in a
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: lot of tough environments. I mean they played a number
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: of playoffs teams this year. They played in Seattle, they
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: obviously played in Campas.
• 43:02
  Speaker 10: Numbers on that later. Yeah, No, you're right everything you
• 43:06
  Speaker 10: just said. I think they've played eight games against teams
• 43:10
  Speaker 10: with more than ten wins.
• 43:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, Buffalo Chargers twice, Denver twice.
• 43:16
  Speaker 10: Here somewhere Seattle, Max.
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: And Santa Barbara writes in First Off, Unlike Paul I too,
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: like Fred root for the other team's injuries.
• 43:24
  Speaker 10: I don't root for any injury.
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: I love when mahomes leg got twisted.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Remember the Chiefs purposely took out Brady in September two
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: thousand and seven. Plus they lied that Super Bowl when
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: they claimed Mahomes had a high ankle sprain.
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: Yet he ran around no problem.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: What ped did they allow him to be shot up
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: with Gronk had that played very few snaps in Super
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Bowl forty six. Anyway, I don't know why, but this
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: win for me was as sweet as thirty six or
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: fifty one. Paul, drink real sugar PEPSI. The artificial sweetener
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: is way worse for you.
• 43:53
  Speaker 10: That's a myth, much like the rest of your email.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Nice Let's see what do we got here? Oh, let's
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: go to Alex in San Diego. What's up, Alex?
• 44:06
  Speaker 9: Hey, guys, what a game?
• 44:08
  Speaker 19: You know, I'm twenty eight years old and I grew
• 44:10
  Speaker 19: up with the team that was just always good, and
• 44:12
  Speaker 19: you know, just being bad these last couple of years.
• 44:14
  Speaker 19: It made me really thankful for moments like Sunday. But yeah, anyway,
• 44:18
  Speaker 19: I don't know if anything else came out from this,
• 44:20
  Speaker 19: whether it was reports or interviews, but your thoughts on
• 44:24
  Speaker 19: why Vrabel went for the extra point after the Loan
• 44:26
  Speaker 19: touchdown the other day because the lead was twelve, and
• 44:30
  Speaker 19: I just see way more of a benefit making the
• 44:32
  Speaker 19: lead fourteen and thirteen. But either way, the game was
• 44:35
  Speaker 19: probably over when they scored that touchdown anyway.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: But so anyway, Yeah, he was asked the question and
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: he kind of didn't answer it.
• 44:42
  Speaker 10: So yeah, go ahad Pabably. I think their translation was
• 44:46
  Speaker 10: I messed that one up. I think I think the
• 44:49
  Speaker 10: way he started to talk about it sort of was
• 44:52
  Speaker 10: an indication to me that, yeah, I know what you're
• 44:55
  Speaker 10: talking about, and maybe we should have done it. Fred
• 44:58
  Speaker 10: was talking about this in the post game show, and
• 45:03
  Speaker 10: he eventually got to try to do some of the
• 45:05
  Speaker 10: stuff that you're talking about. He's counting possessions, right, and
• 45:08
  Speaker 10: he's sort of going, well, if it's twelve. He was
• 45:12
  Speaker 10: talking about the possibility of three possessions. So if you
• 45:16
  Speaker 10: make it twelve, if you don't get the two and
• 45:18
  Speaker 10: then they score a touchdown, they make it five. Now
• 45:20
  Speaker 10: if we kick a field goal, we're only up eight
• 45:22
  Speaker 10: and it's still one score and not nine, which is
• 45:25
  Speaker 10: kind of I think what you were getting at. I
• 45:27
  Speaker 10: just didn't think there was enough possessions left in the
• 45:29
  Speaker 10: game to realistically, with nine minutes left, the Chargers are
• 45:32
  Speaker 10: going to get down the field and score a touchdown.
• 45:34
  Speaker 10: You're going to now go down the field and kick
• 45:36
  Speaker 10: a field goal, and there's going to be enough time. Like, Yeah,
• 45:40
  Speaker 10: I didn't know. I think they would have gone for
• 45:43
  Speaker 10: two if they had to do that over again. I
• 45:47
  Speaker 10: don't think it was an enormous problem because of the
• 45:50
  Speaker 10: way the defense was playing at the time. But yeah,
• 45:54
  Speaker 10: I think the way he answered it told me that, Yeah,
• 45:57
  Speaker 10: I think we might have messed that one.
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: My tinfoil hot theory. They have a really good two
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: point play and they didn't want to burn it because well.
• 46:05
  Speaker 10: They don't have to burn it, use another one, us
• 46:08
  Speaker 10: another one.
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: They only have so many. I don't think that they
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: were scoring fourteen points and I would completely agree with that.
• 46:16
  Speaker 10: And the point that I made was like, we know
• 46:18
  Speaker 10: the game is over, yeah, you know, because of their
• 46:20
  Speaker 10: media nerds sitting around watching the game. You know, we
• 46:24
  Speaker 10: we've watched forty fifty, you know, fifty minutes of play
• 46:28
  Speaker 10: and they have three points. They're not scoring fourteen in
• 46:31
  Speaker 10: the last ten, right, But the coach can't do that.
• 46:34
  Speaker 10: Coach can't just say well, you know, and he was
• 46:36
  Speaker 10: talking about sudden change, you know, like that was the
• 46:39
  Speaker 10: only way that they could lose, which is why I
• 46:41
  Speaker 10: was annoyed with the strip sack that May took with
• 46:45
  Speaker 10: a sixteen to three lead, Like that's basically the only
• 46:48
  Speaker 10: way you can lose. And that ball bounced up. Not
• 46:51
  Speaker 10: only he got strip sacked, that was on a platter
• 46:53
  Speaker 10: for someone and Jared Wilson fortunately was the one who
• 46:56
  Speaker 10: caught the bounce. Yeah, if that's if that's a charger,
• 46:59
  Speaker 10: who can that bounce? That might be a touchdown and
• 47:02
  Speaker 10: that's the only way you can get in trouble.
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they dropped the end out to Diggs's side. He
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: wasn't expecting the end to drop out and he dropped.
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: He wanted to throw the slant to Digs and the
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: end just dropped right underneath the slant and so he
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: just pulled it down and you know, to Paul's point,
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: like just turtle, like just go down, you know, like
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: especially with that lead, and.
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: Just throw it in the ground.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was he got.
• 47:24
  Speaker 10: The grounding would have been better, he got.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: He got fooled by it.
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: That was funny when some of those guys were dropping
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: out that they were like like doing this, like I mean,
• 47:31
  Speaker 7: I don't know, maybe I just never noticed it before,
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: but I was like, are you trying to tell him
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: you're there?
• 47:35
  Speaker 8: Or you wanted to throw it to you? You know,
• 47:37
  Speaker 8: like I'm over, I'm open.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, they were dropping tard out.
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: He's three hundred and forty pounds and they're dropping him
• 47:41
  Speaker 6: out over the middle of the field to take away
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: the the inside.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, the they had some good stuff the Chargers.
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: Joseph's in North Carolina. I hate Joseph.
• 47:52
  Speaker 9: Good afternoon.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Twenty one. I'm very glad to be back in this position.
• 47:59
  Speaker 9: The Pats are back. I just have a couple of things.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: I think we actually really match up well against the Texans.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: The Texans kind of remind me or the Patriots remind
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: me of the Texans from like two years ago. Texans
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: always have had a good defense. It's really just been CJ. Stroud,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: how he's gonna do. He's younger. I think we line
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: up good, and you guys mentioned it. The X factor,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: I really think will be Josh McDaniels, how he what
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: place he calls. I think that Steelers game. It was
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: just very bland. If the Steelers were gonna run, they
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: were gonna run, They're gonna pass, they were gonna pass.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: I feel like everyone could predict what they were going
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: to do. So my question is this, is it gonna
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: be Mike mcdan or Josh McDaniels or I think Hunter
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Henry has a real big play in this game. Very
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: underrated past block get away from it. And I think
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Drake May's athletics athleticism is going.
• 48:55
  Speaker 9: To help us win this game.
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, doesn't it every week?
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: I mean, everything Paul and Evan were saying just to
• 49:00
  Speaker 7: me is if it's not there, go you know, this
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: is one game where you don't dig around trying to
• 49:06
  Speaker 7: get to the third and fourth reads like they might
• 49:08
  Speaker 7: be susceptible to the scrambles, and don't be a hero
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: and you know, go down, don't try to point.
• 49:13
  Speaker 10: He's going to need to play really well.
• 49:14
  Speaker 8: It's not going to right one hundred percent, but it's
• 49:16
  Speaker 8: not going to be.
• 49:17
  Speaker 7: You know, one of these games where it's, oh, you're
• 49:19
  Speaker 7: gonna have a chance to make some points up, Like
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: I think points are going to be at a premium.
• 49:23
  Speaker 7: Live to Fight another day, but I mean, I just again,
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: I felt great last week coming in with Josh McDaniels.
• 49:29
  Speaker 7: I feel great again, he's seen it all. I mean,
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: I don't know how you feel about it. I just
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: I kind of made the comparison to the old Indie defense,
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: which not different schemes, but it was still really fast,
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: do what we're going to do. But they're they're going
• 49:42
  Speaker 7: to do it, you know, like you know what they're
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: going to do. So I love Josh's experience and ability
• 49:47
  Speaker 7: to look at that defense and say, Drake.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: May, is there anywhere on the Patriots offense where they
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: have the matchup advantage over the Texans deef.
• 49:55
  Speaker 8: My little remander, I would say in the passing game.
• 49:57
  Speaker 7: I don't know, that's been something I've heard a couple
• 49:58
  Speaker 7: of times in the analysis of especially.
• 50:00
  Speaker 10: With to coverage all over.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: Well last night, well he was one of those Steelers
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: best players.
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, but I mean that's what going into the game,
• 50:08
  Speaker 7: some of the preduchers saying they should try.
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: To get get them on that one third down but
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: it fell. Yeah, but yeah, I would agree and know,
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: especially if they play all that quarters coverage with the
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: two high safeties, so the matchup is you know, usually
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: a linebacker on a running back or the slot receiver
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: right over the middle of the field. Uh And that
• 50:26
  Speaker 6: is one area. And that's why I was talking about
• 50:28
  Speaker 6: trying to get them into base because if you can
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: get Petrie out of the slot and you can get
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: them with you know, linebackers on the field, I think
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: that that's how you can throw on them a little bit.
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: Uh So I would expect the Patriots to try to
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: whether it's twelve or it's you know, six O line
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: or whatever the case may be, just try to get
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: them to blink and put the big guys out on
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: the field. But I I like their chances as much
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: as you possibly could against maybe the best defense in
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: the league, because I think that they really are kind
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: of stagnant, do what you do defense, And I just
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: really like Josh McDaniels in that kind of matchup.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be the advantage of McDaniels. Then, yeah,
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: that's the answer to the question.
• 51:07
  Speaker 6: Well, because I think McDaniel's just gonna call a lot
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: of beaters for the types of coverages that the Texans
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: really like to run. And I like their odds of
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: getting some guys open. You know, especially if Texans play zone.
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: You know, if they come in and play Mann, I'm
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: a little bit more concerned.
• 51:21
  Speaker 7: I think that I'm just gonna say, last point, the
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: bigger thing, and we've all been touching on, is the
• 51:25
  Speaker 7: secondary guy's got to step up after digs and you're
• 51:27
  Speaker 7: gonna need more.
• 51:27
  Speaker 8: Production, especially in the middle of the field.
• 51:29
  Speaker 7: To your point, Fred, you know de Mario Douglas, can
• 51:32
  Speaker 7: we get him involved a little bit more? I just
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: I think it was obviously they missed mac Collins in
• 51:36
  Speaker 7: this game. I think he was one of the underrated
• 51:39
  Speaker 7: kind of guys that Drake likes to throw to, especially.
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: Against zone, you know, and you kind of just sit
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: in those soft spots and big target in the middle
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: of the field.
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: Cassie and Georgia.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: Everyone likes to talk about the Patriots strength of schedules,
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: So let's talk about the Texans, but specifically the offenses
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: they have faced. The losses they have have were against
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: good offenses, but the second half of the schedule when
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: they made their run, have been against some teams with
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: subpar offenses.
• 52:05
  Speaker 10: Okay, so just wondering who do you think is the
• 52:08
  Speaker 10: good offenses. I don't got to think the Rams are
• 52:11
  Speaker 10: any good. I think the Rams have a good.
• 52:13
  Speaker 8: Offense, pretty good Rams Seahawks.
• 52:15
  Speaker 10: They lost, He's right, fourteen points.
• 52:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah right, you don't get the twenty on this team.
• 52:21
  Speaker 7: They given up over twenty points twice.
• 52:23
  Speaker 10: You know, Jacksonville pretty good offense this year, right, seventeen
• 52:27
  Speaker 10: they lost. He's right, they lost to the good offenses.
• 52:31
  Speaker 10: But that's the kind of game that I think the
• 52:32
  Speaker 10: Patriots are gonna win. And I just you know, I
• 52:35
  Speaker 10: know Fretz already declared this game is over. We're onto
• 52:37
  Speaker 10: the AFC Championship.
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: I'm with them.
• 52:39
  Speaker 10: I think the Patriots are gonna win this game. But
• 52:42
  Speaker 10: I don't think it's going to be like the last
• 52:44
  Speaker 10: time I did this, I was very wrong and I said,
• 52:46
  Speaker 10: I don't think. I don't see a six to three
• 52:48
  Speaker 10: game at the half, And here we were in a
• 52:49
  Speaker 10: six to three game at the half. I don't see
• 52:51
  Speaker 10: the Patriots putting forty eight on the board. I just like,
• 52:53
  Speaker 10: I think this defense is good.
• 52:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's very good.
• 52:56
  Speaker 10: I think that if defenses are beatable, all defenses are beatable,
• 53:00
  Speaker 10: you should be able to get into the twenties. I
• 53:02
  Speaker 10: know they're really good, but you've got to get to
• 53:03
  Speaker 10: the twenties.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: If you can get to twenty.
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: Stroud has not played well and so the one thing
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: was Stroud too. I know we have, you know, a
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: lot more time to talk about this, but I expect
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: the Patriots to blitz the crap out of them because
• 53:18
  Speaker 6: you know, that seems.
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  Speaker 8: To make a great decision.
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that seems to be is kryptonite right now, is pressure.
• 53:23
  Speaker 6: And you know the Chargers got them the entire second
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: half of that game with a lot of pressure. So
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: just like they did against Justin Herbert, you know on
• 53:31
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  Speaker 10: You know, on the staff, the view of things is leadership, toughness,
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  Speaker 13: And yeah, so again all the credit goes to him.
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  Speaker 13: But I think that that that wasn't something that was
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  Speaker 13: some conversations, you know, as we worked through free agency
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  Speaker 13: and what his plans were and what the vision that
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  Speaker 13: we had for a lot to talk.
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  Speaker 10: To student about strength of schedule.
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  Speaker 4: What is it when last night just leaning the team
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  Speaker 4: means the season.
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  Speaker 13: Leans, we get to keep playing. So if that's what
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  Speaker 12: Mikeut Fort is timing h maybe even just reps, getting
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  Speaker 12: reps together for those guys up front. For you defensively,
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  Speaker 12: think you're running those those three main games of picking
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  Speaker 12: the stripsack yesterday. Do those guys eat a lot of
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  Speaker 12: reps together those things to work well?
• 59:01
  Speaker 13: I just think that there's a lot of you know,
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  Speaker 13: to you, I think the better. Sometimes it's you're getting
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  Speaker 13: it may be. So the more that you know you
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  Speaker 13: can get a look at those things and be able
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  Speaker 13: to work with the guy next to you, how the
• 59:26
  Speaker 13: guys setting it up, how your guys blocking you, and
• 59:31
  Speaker 13: your ability to get where you need to get to. So,
• 59:36
  Speaker 13: the more reps that we can get at any type
• 59:38
  Speaker 13: of you know, combination with more than one player is important,
• 59:43
  Speaker 13: whether that's a route concept with two guys, or pass
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  Speaker 13: time that you're dealing with with two players that have
• 59:54
  Speaker 13: a responsibility or more players, the more.
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  Speaker 10: Reps the better.
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  Speaker 10: How do you look particular?
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 13: How yeah?
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  Speaker 10: I mean I thought he yelled up.
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  Speaker 13: Okay, I think that they you know, there's gonna be
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 13: some plays that he's going to want to improve on
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 13: and game conditioning and all those things and emotion and
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 13: but we got we got great efforts from everybody, and
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 13: you know, Robert and Harold who hadn't been out there,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 13: you know, helped us win.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 8: They're all part of his victory. While of your.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 23: Downfield success in the passing game came from some heavier groupings.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 23: What were the charters doing that maybe made it tougher
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 23: to get downfield from their lighter personnel And what were
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 23: the advantages that you saw in some of those base effages.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 13: Well, they rush and you know, they've got a good front,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 13: and further, you want to throw the ball downfield the
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 13: longer that you have to protect. And you know, I
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 13: think they play certainly a very good pass defense and
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 13: different shells and whether they're man or posts, say, and
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 13: they're you know, pushing somebody back out there, you know.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 13: And again I think that being able to mix up
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 13: the personnel groups is something that you know, we've tried
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 13: to do that, other teams try to do no different
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 13: than the Chargers and early on going in twenty two
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 13: personnel and trying to get a play action passed out
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 13: of there and trying to get you know, some route
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 13: to gats In or something, and so, you know, being
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 13: able to mix personnel and staying balanced out of each
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 13: personnel I think is critical.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 14: Mike talking about the growth of Andy borg allis from
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 14: what he dealt with in training camp and adversity a
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 14: little bit during the year and what sort of automatic
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 14: a lot of times you know, you know, we're not
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 14: talking about a kicker.
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  Speaker 10: A lot of times he's doing his job. Can you
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 10: just talk about it?
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that first of all, his demeanor I
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 13: think has been been great. It's been consistent. Just keep
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 13: kicking and keep learning and practice it and you know,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 13: kicking in the elements and kicking on you know, different side.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 13: It doesn't really seem the things affect them, you know.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 13: So again all the credit to Andy, uh for remaining
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 13: consistent mentally and made some big kicks for us. So
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 13: you know, I'm sure that that's helped his confidence. Thought
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 13: two point conversion after yeah, yeah, obviously some thoughts there,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 13: and then you know, just thinking that maybe we'd get
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 13: a couple more possessions where you know, the field goal
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 13: could probably get us to eight, but you know, could
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 13: could easily have have done that, and.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 10: Proud of our guys.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 13: Really the sudden change all night and situational football was
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 13: really good. Coach you was here for a lot of
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 13: big games as uh, his first playoff game in six
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 13: years here last night, which the scare. I thought it
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 13: was amazing. I think it starts with our willingness to
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 13: play to a style. Then our fans appreciate. We've talked
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 13: about that since, uh since as long as I can
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 13: remember that if we play to a certain style, and
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 13: they'll embrace that and they'll they'll they'll cheer for us.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 8: I think that.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 13: You know what we do here from the stadium perspective
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 13: and the introductions and the fireworks, and I mean, that's
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 13: all part of it.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 10: And we're at the.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 13: Entertainment business and we have to provide things for people
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 13: to get excited about. So I appreciate the way that
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 13: our fans have been here, and I appreciate the way
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 13: that they've traveled, and I can't say nothing about them.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: And now great moments in.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: History.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: It is funny like those are the types make a play,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: Terry Glenn, what are we doing?
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 10: I can play on the ball.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: Nobody knows what you're talking about.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 10: Just through showing Aaron Glenn Highways on NFL Network.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: Do you know Aaron Glenn was the coach of the Jets.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: I didn't know that.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 8: I didn't know it's true or not, but it is.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 10: Seven hates everybody and everything in the.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 8: League, especially the seventy Steelers.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 10: Oh no, anybody and everything.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: The way to get me started on the seventy Steiers.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 6: I heard the ball boy got into the Pro Football
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 6: Hall of Fame on the seventies Steelers.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 8: That's true.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: You know, us we're trying to you know, the Patriots dynasty.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: It's like trying to pull teeth.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 6: But you know I heard the third string long snapper
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 6: and the seventy Steelers in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 8: And the waterboy on the Steelers had like a six
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 8: gallon jug. He was just walking down with one armhold.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got a bust and can You're right there
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: was too much, uh, too many Steelers got in at
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: that time. I don't know, why would you.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 10: Care to elaborate? No, I just think there was which one.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: A lot of all of them, A lot of them.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 10: That's what I was getting at. Its all of them.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.
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  Speaker 5: All right back here on Patriot's Unfiltered Day five to
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  Speaker 5: five past five hundred is the Hotline podcast at Patriots
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  Speaker 5: di Com. Is the email address Clayton.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, it was good. It was good. I still hate this,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 10: but that was good, solid hate. I like that.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: If they don't had Vinetarian the Hall of Fame this year,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: I'm like.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 10: Royd Jirella is in though.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: It was kicker with the Texas playing on Monday, and
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: I would assume traveling Friday, Well that's a bad assumption.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: Yes to New England.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: What sort of impact does that have on the team
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: preparing for playoff game? Patriots seem to have six days
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: to prepare to the Texans three.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: And a half or four.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: I think the Texans will come on Saturday. Why would
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: you come on Friday?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 10: They have won less day to prepare because they played
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 10: Monday night.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it happens.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 10: I mean I don't think it should happen the NFL
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 10: and the playoffs. Should they also not have Monday night games.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 6: I'm assuming that their coaching staff might have already been
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 6: peeking yesterday before the game.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: Just like we were. Probably I was for both.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 10: Yeah, but and even to Evan's point, like the Texans
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 10: staff didn't have an either or scenario. It's like, we win,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 10: were preparing for this team. If we lose, we're not
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 10: preparing for anybody else. Like that's it. If they win,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 10: they played the Patriots, so the preparation, you know, was underway.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 10: I'm sure the Patriots probably spent a little more time
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 10: going over Houston A because they thought they would win
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 10: B because they've already seen Pittsburgh this year and probably
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 10: didn't have as much extensively to do. But they did
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 10: have the either or the Texans didn't. It was all Patriots, right,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 10: what else you're doing. We're either going to be on
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 10: CANCN or we're going to be playing the Patriots.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: Until eight o'clock Monday night and you're just sitting around.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: But it is unfair to have a team play on
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: Monday night in the playoffs.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 7: It's just never going back though, is it like they're
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 7: never going to start.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 10: Making it's too like just just go back to the
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 10: triple header on Saturday, triple header on Sunday, and then
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 10: try your best for the winners to play in the
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 10: same day the following week. So it's even for everybody
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 10: this team's play that played Sunday, that are playing Saturday
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 10: teams played Monday playing Sunday. Shouldn't be like that in
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 10: the playoffs. Everybody should have the same amount of rest,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 10: except for the teams that get to buy obviously, Camp
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 10: Tim and Pensacola.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: What's up, Tim?
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 9: Hey, everybody, I know you got a lot of callers.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 9: So I just have two quick points. One is a
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 9: off season idea because I don't get to call a
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 9: lot because of work. And then the second is a
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 9: serious question about Drake may So first, I've been listening
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 9: to this show since I was in high school, all
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 9: the way up to my last job in the previous
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 9: administration working in the White House, to my current job.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 9: PFW Patriots Unfiltered has always been a constant. So Fred
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 9: the off season, Yeah, I was an associate director under
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 9: President Pike. But during the off season, I encourage you
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 9: all for one episode, just one episode, to bring back
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 9: TFW in Progress, the old music, Fred Kirsch, Andy Hart,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 9: Paul Perillo, Er Scalabino, Kevin behind the Glass doesn't have
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 9: Marine Corps efficiency, which just made it funnier, And just
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 9: have one episode of PFW.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: In Progress, so like a reunion show exactly.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I like that idea with the music I think
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 10: I wonder if we can find that.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 9: Yeah, mister life, Oh you know what, I might have
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 9: some old podcast somewhere I can see if I have
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 9: him off them your way. I'm serious, Okay, my question
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 9: about Drake May. One thing Paul that I appreciate about
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 9: you is like you said stuff even when it was unpopular.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 9: So you will probably roll your eyes at me, and
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 9: that's okay. But I want to get everybody's take on this.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 9: I think Drake May is an elite quarterback right now.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 9: I think his ball placement, his accuracy, his speed, his
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 9: ability to break tackles to make place, I think he's
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 9: just gonna get better. But I say he is already
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 9: an elite quarterback. I can take it off there, but
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 9: I'd like your thoughts on it.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: I think, well, he's got elite skills, there's no there's
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: no about it. But in order to be an elite
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: quarterback in the NFL, it takes time.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: You have to prove it over time.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 10: Well, I think in twenty MVP of the league in
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 10: twenty five, he's been an elite quarterback.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 10: I really think there's an argument against.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: That he's an elite quarterback.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, there's I can't imagine, like, how does
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 6: he regret.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: I'm not ready to put him up with the elites
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: of the game, you know, in history.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 10: I would put him in history, you know, But this
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 10: year he's in my top five.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, no doubt about it.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 6: I think he's squarely at the top of Tier two
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 6: at least, like I still think that, you know, Mahomes,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 6: Burrow Allen, and Lamar Jackson are probably in.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 10: That likes tier club.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: I know, you got to be fair. It's one season, yeah, so.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 10: That's all I'm judging it on, right But right.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: Now he's elite in this league with elite skills. But
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: in terms of but.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: I think he showed it all his rookie year.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 6: I think his rookie year there are a lot of
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 6: the same throws are on film that he's making now.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 6: He just was in a crappy situation and he was young.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: Sure, you know, so I.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 6: Don't think that this like truly came out of nowhere.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 6: I think this was all over his rookie tape too.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 6: He just has better coaching and better pieces around him
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 6: and has a little bit more experience in the league.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 6: I just have a tough time thanks to him trying
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 6: to figure out where he goes backwards, that he would
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: not stay at this level, you know, for the next
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 6: ten years.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 7: And I just put it on the coaching staff this
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 7: year in the personnel department to continue to build around
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 7: him and to give him things that fit his game
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 7: or as you get out of this season, you know.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 8: We really would have liked this piece Xyz.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 7: I mean I look at the second tight end spot
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 7: as maybe a spot where you say, let's try to
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 7: find a young athletic guy who can maybe be t
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 7: E two next year, but maybe push Hunter Henry a
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 7: little bit, start to add another dynamic element to the
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 7: offense for Drake to play with.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: You and I wouldn't really have a dominant outside receiver yet.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the only way he could go backwards is if
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: he starts making mental mistakes.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 10: But I don't see that happen, and that would be
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 10: the very slight pushback to what I have said, like,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 10: we saw a lot of this stuff last year, right,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 10: and it hasn't been that So Yeah, I agree that
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 10: the highs we saw, but we haven't seen anywhere near
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 10: the lows that we saw last year. That's to me,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 10: which has put him in an elite level. We knew
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 10: that the skills were there, but last year we saw
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 10: all the mistakes. A lot of the summer, we saw
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 10: a lot of these mistakes. They've almost completely disappeared. That's
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 10: why I'm as critical as I am when he gets
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 10: stripsacked in the middle of the fourth quarter up thirteen points,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 10: because we haven't seen that all year. I know you
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 10: can do this, because you haven't done it all year.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 10: Don't do it now, don't you know? Like the May
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 10: sprays that Mike talks about the pocket presence that I
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 10: kind of harp on. I don't want to see the
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 10: playoffs end because of that. If they're going to end,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 10: let the other team shut you down.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: He has irrational confidence.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 10: Irrational it is a great way to put it.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: In me and I like, you don't want to take
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: that completely away.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 13: Nope.
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  Speaker 6: But he has a rational confidence that he can make
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 6: a play in any situation. And sometimes the right play
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 6: is just to protect the ball and go down. And
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 6: for him it's like, Nope, I'm gonna hang on to
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 6: the last possible second because I'm Drake May and I'm
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 6: gonna make a play.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 10: Here the best kid in the school yard and he
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 10: feels he can do anything, and I don't want to
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 10: take that away, and I would just say just to
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 10: put a bow on it. With those two fumbles on
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 10: Sunday Sunday night, the first one, I think both of
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 10: them were he was guilty of exactly what Evan's talking about,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 10: the irrational confidence. I can make a play here. The
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 10: first one I can live with, even though it was
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 10: in scoring position and they were only up six to
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 10: three at the time, and that was a big play.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 10: I'm not dismissing it, but he's trying to make a
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 10: play to put points on the board. The second one,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 10: the game is kind of over sixteen to three with
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 10: less than five minutes left in the game. There's only
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 10: one way I can lose. So that's not a spot
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 10: I want irrational confidence. That's the spot I want. Let's
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 10: play this safe, let's just take the loss, and we'll
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 10: punt live to fight another deck.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 8: He gets experienced too.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 7: I think that's such a big part of it with
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 7: I mean, I know Brady talking about the course of
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 7: his career of going just take the sack. You never
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 7: I think I've heard cliffs of Josh saying to him
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 7: like we've never lost a game because we took a sack.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 8: You know, those are the kind of This.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 6: Is one of those games against the Texans where a
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 6: punt is.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: Much better than another possible outcome.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 6: You know, Like because if you put this offense is
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 6: Texans offense on long fields, I feel pretty good about
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 6: your chances. You know, they get points by being on
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 6: short fields or the defense scoring or whatever the case
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 6: may be. So but yeah, I mean, like he's got
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 6: a it's a hard line to walk, Like Josh Allen
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 6: has the same problem. Like they think they're they're superman,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 6: and like sometimes he makes throws and he makes plays
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 6: that you just go crazy about. But then sometimes he
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 6: gets caught trying to make plays like that. Any fumbles,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 6: you know, and if you want the good ones that yeah.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: Bradley in Kansas City, Zach Core was commented on by
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: Peter Schrager as part of the Monday and I Countdown
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: And Peter acted like he was a fill in for
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: only this game as the play caller. Can someone tell
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: him he's been our defensive coordinator all season? Dude needs
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: to do some research before talking on national TV.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 7: I kind of thought it was a Rolowski too. I
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 7: heard that clip and Sreger brought him up and then
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 7: and then and then don't ask you know who?
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Sregar, you haven't heard of the de facto defensive
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 6: coordinator of the number two seed in the AFC filling in.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 8: For the defensive coordinator.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: I'm sure they can name all the other defensive coordinators
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 6: right in the playoffs. I mean I probably could, so,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 6: I'm sure they could.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 10: I couldn't. I know I couldn't.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 5: Halfley. Uh, he's out, Doug writes in he's a Green Bay. Yes,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: defensive coordinators.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 10: Oh you mean out of the playoffs.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, it was just one he was naming.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: Right, Doug.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: Mike Rabil is definitely a heart out For some reason.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: This doesn't bother me. In fact, I kind of like it.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 5: Do you agree?
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's because he's our hard oh, or maybe there
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: is more to it one his playing resume supports it.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: He has always been this way. It's not a recent
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: coaches affection.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: He uses it to improve the team. In other words,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: not to look at me. It's not an obvious ploy
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: to cover up other coaching deficiencies. It's great to have
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: the team finally more fun to watch, uh than Patriots unfiltered.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 10: I just like him.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 8: Can I get a definition of hard?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 14: Oh?
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 8: Is that like an act?
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 7: It's an act because I don't get a lot of
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 7: Mike Frables trying really hard to act.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: Well, this is who he is. He's not doing it.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 10: I think he's the epitome of that. But I love him.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 10: I think he I think he's great.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah saying that that he's like willing to bleed, like
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 6: let's calm down. But I do think that his his playing,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 6: the fact that he's not just not just a former player,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 6: but is a former really good player.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: I do think that that helps.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 10: Like just watch him come into the press conference with that,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 10: with that shred of.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 5: His like that's who like, he's always had it and.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 10: That's why I love I've always liked Mike from his
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 10: playing days.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 5: I he's really inuine.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 7: He's not, but he's definitely a heart natural.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 5: He's our heart.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 6: But some of the guys that are hard os, like
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 6: Jim Harbaugh is like, dude, you were a nice backup quarterback,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 6: Like no one's impressed.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 10: Jim Harbaugh is kind of a nerd or Dan Campbell.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 10: Dan Campbell like you were a block, but he's absolutely Like.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: A lot of people think the hard thing is to
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: cover up for other coaching deficiencies.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: I don't either.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 10: I think that's just guy's personality.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 6: Is I think sary Back in the day, he was
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 6: kind of quiet, wasn't he until that explosion?
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 10: Dan Campbell is a good example that that's a heart.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of Dan Campbell in him.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Johnsony's a little bit of a heart.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 10: Oh, yes, And I think that I think he's kind
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 10: of a nerd.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 6: Now it's coming across well right now because they're winning.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 6: But I think that if it didn't like you didn't
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 6: play like you did, like you're you are supposed to
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 6: be the nerd, right, So, Like you can say what
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 6: you want about Mike McDaniel, but at least Mike McDaniel
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 6: knows who he is, right, He's a Robert Salah hard
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 6: hard oh, trying to fight Liam Cohen after playing the
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 6: Jaguars earlier this year, Like.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 8: Pretty hard, what do we doing?
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 7: I know what you guys are saying, but I just
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 7: I look at hard O as such a like derogatory.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm not saying it as a derogatory thing. I
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 10: just think that's a personality trait.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 6: I just think that it's different when it's coming from
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 6: a guy that like truly was great as a player,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 6: Like it's in the team Hall of Fame, Like that's
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 6: a different level of like being like he he can
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 6: back it up. You know, he was a great player.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 6: And I think he still has that competent, same.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 8: Swag when he's walking the same way across the field
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 8: as he does when he walks into the press.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 10: I think Mike tom wants a bit of a hard Oh.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 10: I think the way he kept you know, like you know,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 10: the whole all the buzzwords. You know, we want volunteers,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 10: not hostages. You know, He's got like a quip for
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 10: every occasion, you know.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 6: I think he's when he after they beat the Ravens
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 6: and he was doing the chest pounds into the camera like.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: Dude, you you won on a field goal? Yeah, Like
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: what are we talking about?
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 7: Is it wrong to say that football is loaded with
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 7: hard specifically for mancho sports. I think I think a
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 7: hockey and I'm like that's almost like the opposite, Like
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 7: they're like hockey players are known as not being hard of.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 8: I was a farm boy, you know that kind of thing.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 10: Where else other than football? Can you have a heart?
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 10: Oh punter who is now a celebrity that was watching
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 10: ESPN and and that hard?
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 8: Oh that heart? Oh Matt in the in the dictionary
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 8: when you look it up.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: Mark's in New York, Hey, Mark, Oh, Hi, good question
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: about the Texans and officiating.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 24: Saw a lot of gun mimicking celebrations from the Texans,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 24: particularly from the receivers after first down. I know it's
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 24: not the most you know, like the form is shue
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 24: on anyone's mind, But the NFL says a violent gesture?
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 24: So why doesn't it consistently get called? And maybe more importantly,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 24: is there any mechanism for the past or the media
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 24: to flag it with officials before the game so it
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 24: actually gets called and turns into a fifteen yard on sports?
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 10: And can I ask this question as honestly as I can, Mark,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 10: do you do you want a guy who points for
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 10: a first down to get flagged for making a gun gesture?
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 10: Do you want that help?
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 11: That? That?
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 10: Does that help? I'm not talking about the team. You
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 10: were talking about the game last night. Does that when
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 10: you watch a game, do you say to me to yourself?
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 10: You know what I think we need more of fifteen
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 10: yard on sportsmanlike conduct penalties. That's something that is as
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 10: as a fan, as a viewer of the NFL, you
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 10: think there should be more of.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 24: I mean, as a person with a public platform, or
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 24: you a person who thinks that guns are something that
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 24: should be given.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 10: They're pointing for first downs first of all. But no,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 10: I don't, I don't. I'm not offended by any of that.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 24: No, they're pumping the shotgun and putting their finger on
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 24: the trigger, and they're doing with both their hands.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm not offended by that.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, the Patriots have musket men for CRYINGO.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 10: I'm offended when random people go up to people in
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 10: cock cars and just bowl them away. That offends me,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 10: But someone on a football field doing that doesn't really
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 10: bother me.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you know, if you violate the rules,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: should you be flagged?
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: But I don't know. I didn't.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 10: Plenty for first downs isn't violating the rule. But I
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 10: don't want to see that. I think it's a dumb rule.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 10: I don't want to see games impacted by moronic.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: Listen thought Randy Moss wiping his bum on the goalpost
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: was funny.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 10: Absolutely, I don't want to see that called either, Mark, Mark.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: Thanks for the call.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: I think he was kidding, right, I don't.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 10: I don't. That's why I asked him. Can I honestly
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 10: ask you a question?
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: Is that they work That was a bit?
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 10: Maybe maybe maybe he knew I would.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 5: Be triggered by it, no pun intended.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 10: Yeah, maybe he knew that that would be something that
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 10: I would respond to. And maybe you're right, maybe it
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 10: was a he worked me over and now he got
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 10: one over on me. They do that.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 6: He wants a shotgun and then he wants the media
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 6: to shed light on it so that it gets called
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 6: on Sunday.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: It can't be a serious call. I'm sorry.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 10: I think I think it was serious to be But
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 10: you know, it's not the first time I've been fooled.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 10: Andy Hart once called and made fun of me and
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 10: I didn't even know it was Andy Hart.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 8: Has ever predicted Greg Roman has just been fired.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that was like, come on, Minros. I mean they
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 6: had to like do like Jim Harbaugh was gon, it
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 6: was either going to be Roman or the whole staff
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 6: was going to get well.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: I like it that the Patriots are back to getting
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: coaches fired.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: It was bad. It was bad.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 5: What's up, Austin, Austin, Austin, You there, Austin.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 8: That's Austin's music.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 5: Oh okay, Austin gave up.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 5: So we'll go to Pennsylvania where Patrick is. Hey Patrick, Hey, guys.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 25: I will be attending my first playoff game of Sunday
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 25: Agellette tickets back in Thanksgiving or so, so I'm really
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 25: glad it's actually happening. Wow, they're open for a great game,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 25: great weather, and of course will win. But wanted to
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 25: ask the experts, who are you know, boots on the
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 25: ground for every game? What's the ideal time to show up?
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 25: Is the atmosphere like different around.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 26: Playoff game that it comes to tailgating?
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 25: Given the games at three, do you guys think I'm
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 25: crazy by tell my buddies I want to get there at.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: Seven seven am, seven am, Well, the lots don't open
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: until four hours before the game.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 10: Crazy.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 5: Sometimes a little earlier.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 10: It wouldn't be anybody here for us at seven am.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: I want to think that's a little early. You can't
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: get into lots any way to tailgate. But you know,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: if you get here around noon, you know you could
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: do that or even you know, eleven o'clock.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, lots will be open eleven.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: I appreciate the passion.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 6: I mean we haven't We don't get to do that,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 6: so I I like, I haven't done it in ten years.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 10: Wish I had to tell you. I wish I had
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 10: a time.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 8: I know, the feeling. My first game here, me and
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 8: my sister were here way too early.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we I would say, like, you know, usually get
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 6: here what like two three hours before a kick in,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 6: Like the traffic's like sort of starting to pick up
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 6: around this point.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 8: It was more busy this week than than the playoff
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 8: game then, so.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 4: If you're trying to get here before, like it really
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: gets crazy.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 10: I think it tends to be busy night games because
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 10: every while, yeah, every was coming the same time.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, get it at eleven seven am. Jesus, I'm glad
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 6: we were able to tell him not to do that.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 8: What's the Weatherland, It is supposed to be cold too,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 8: it might snow.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 10: Well.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: I like what they do in Buffalo where they allow
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: the r vs to come in and park overnight.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 10: Really yeah I did that, you did that?
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: I did? Yeah, we should do that one yeah, yeah,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 5: all right, ninety eight.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 10: I I think it was ninety eight talking about hard
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 10: os oh RV.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 8: They also fired their offensive line coach.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that Ell wants to know first.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: He says Evan's cameo on the postgame show was fantastic.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 5: We need more postgame Evan. What makes Paul more angry
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 5: that Drake maye nickname? Or when Chisholm has a more
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 5: productive game than Pop.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 10: I'll let you know when it happens.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: Wow, a nice twenty yard catch in this game.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's true. You got to catch.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 6: They were playing cloud to a lot of cloud to
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 6: the fields, kept throwing those whole shots.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: No, I'd like to.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 7: See more out of Pop. I had a little talk
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 7: with f this morning, and I just I.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: Have he's really upset about it.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 8: I'm not upset about it.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 7: I just I saw Pop get open a little bit
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 7: and I'm starting to wonder if he's just not really
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 7: Drake's kind of guy, and it just doesn't really seem
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 7: to look his way consistently.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 10: I do think the catch radius is an issue.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 5: The Charges also fired their o line coach, Mike Devlin.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 5: Did we say that?
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, so you're reading an ema.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 5: Wasn't listening.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 10: I Uh, good, Fred.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 6: It's been on my mind a lot with Pop, Like,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 6: I don't know, he's he's speedy's fast. He seems like
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 6: he creates a separation. He's not the best against his
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 6: own I think that that's a The number one thing is,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 6: you know, he's not the best to kind of understand
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 6: where the soft spots are and where uh you know,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 6: settle and things like that. But uh, and then I
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 6: think the catch radious. Like I think the fact that he's,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 6: you know, a smaller guy is a little bit harder
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 6: to throw too.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 10: And I think Drake tends to throw the ball a
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 10: little bit higher outside. I mean, I think of a
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 10: lot of catches that we've seen from Henry, uh, from
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 10: Hooper and from Hollins this year that that you know,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 10: the ball was well outside the you know, sort of
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 10: the torso. And you can't throw those same passes to Douglas.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I feel a lot of his passes have been
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 8: more down the field this year.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 10: And yeah, you know it's just surprising. But but I
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 10: don't care if it's if it's Chisholm, if it's Williams,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 10: if it's Douglas, They're gonna need somebody to help out
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 10: Diggs and Booty. Yep, yep, this could be a pop game.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 4: You know, I could see Houston playing man. Uh. He
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: had a good game against them last year.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 6: And even though the Patriots stuff has changed significantly, Houston
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 6: really hasn't.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 6: It's the same defense, same coaching staff. If they play
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 6: a lot of man coverage, you know, whether it's them
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 6: or down the road or whatever, like, they're going to
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 6: have to have somebody that can get open.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 10: First touchdown passed. With Drake May's career, does ever anybody remember.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 7: Right the bomb behind the booty, bomb behind me? Stingley
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 7: can beat a point, Parlo take a shot.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 5: Jordan writes in It's amazing. This is a good email
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 5: for Paul.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: It's amazing how little respect the Patriots have gotten from
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: the national media. All I heard was how Caleb is
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: an elite quarterback, or the forty nine is upsetting the Eagles,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: But nothing on the Patriots defense absolutely dominating the charges.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 5: All I hear is the Patriots haven't beaten anyone. Let's
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 5: see what happens.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: But then I thought, of all our best teams had
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: a chip on their shoulder, whether it was the Brady
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: four game suspension year or the Julian telling Tom you're
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: too old, then going on to beat Kansas City on
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: the road. I think this team can hot ride the
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: you haven't beat anyone mantra.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 5: All the way to a super Bowl victory. So there
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 5: you go.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 10: Now, that one, I think was what you were talking
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 10: about with the call.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 6: I think so, I mean, I know how you watch
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 6: that game on Saturday night and not just watch Caleb
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 6: in the second half and be like that throw he
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 6: made on fourth down was.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 10: He stinks unbelievable.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: I mean that was crazy.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 10: Let me fill you in from two to six on
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 10: the Sports Up. He stinks.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 6: He's got some words to his game, Like he's way
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 6: more inconsistent than Drake may is right now. But he
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 6: makes some throws man that on like only a couple
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 6: guys can make in the league.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 5: It was a fun game, yeah, Justin and Brookline. Two
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: critical critical questions for everyone, not just the ball knowers,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 5: regarding the defense. One, how did Zach Kerr and the
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 5: Patriots defense solve the tight end coverage in this game?
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 5: I feel like Gadsden was blanketed, but I couldn't tell
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: who was on him in coverage.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 8: I'll tell you what my opinion of this is.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 7: And maybe I'm wrong, but I felt like they were
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 7: just forcing him to get it out so quick that
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 7: he just didn't. It's not his favorite guy, you know,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 7: it's if he had time to scan the field and
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 7: get to him.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 8: And I think we saw him on one fourth down
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 8: play he.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 7: Did get to him, but they felt like they were
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 7: four the issue and he really wants to go to
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 7: lab McConkey. Uh, you know the three receivers that he has,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 7: and they just weren't letting him get through it.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they did.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 6: They played a lot of his own so like it
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 6: wasn't like it was like one particular guy on him
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 6: the whole time. But one of the things that they
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 6: did do that I that I liked was they played
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 6: a little bit more dime defense, you know, six defensive backs,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 6: and they put del Pettis on the field a little bit.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 6: And del Pettis had a couple of good Man coverage
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 6: reps against him. But I like it when they put
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 6: that extra defensive back on the field because you can
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 6: do something else with the third safety. You know, the
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 6: third safety can blitz. He can play you know, Robert
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 6: coverage in the middle of the field. It gives you
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 6: a lot more flexibility on third down.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: Also, he wants to know, does anyone else agree that
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: Robert Spalane's voice kind of sounds like the mccordy Twins.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 5: Yes. I was thinking that.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 8: Just the other night when my head.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: Now, yeah, close your eyes, it does sound like Devin
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 6: Out of all of the fifty three guys in that
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: locker room, the one that came out with the fire quote,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 6: I would never have guessed would have been Spilling like
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 6: he's usually so like tight lipped and kind of close
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 6: to the vest type of guy. And when he gave
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 6: that response about what the Chargers players were saying, I
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 6: was like, holy crap, that's what you said that.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 8: What was your question exactly? We didn't hear the question
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 8: we just got.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 6: I just asked him, you know, as the guy that
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 6: was obviously wearing the green dot, like, what was it like,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 6: you know here in core call that game?
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: And that's when he just said, you.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 7: Know, watching watching spoiling play Like I felt like there
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 7: was no sign of any kind of ankle injury to
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 7: me at all, And it made me think that they
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 7: really probably might have just been like let's just shut
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 7: you down.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 10: Get healthy. The last game for sure, he could have
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 10: come back for I think they did the same thing
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 10: with Milton Williams.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 6: It was just really cool to watch him communicate, Like
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 6: just watching him pre snap, just direct guys and you know,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 6: they shift here and he's you know, moving guys around.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 6: You can see him making hand signals to check in
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 6: and out of things, and you know all their different
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 6: you know, bunches and trips and all the different checks
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 6: that they make in a game, and he was just
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 6: on it.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 4: He was just on all of it.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 7: I think you can tell a lot about a defense
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 7: when you watch him and you see the communication like that,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 7: and you see how quickly everyone's on the same page.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 7: And you'll see other defenses sometimes and you know, even
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 7: the Patriots defense at times over the years, but you
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 7: can see that frantic communication right before the snap of
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 7: his everybody getting the signal, and a lot of times
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 7: with this Patriots defense when they're on you just see
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 7: everybody looks, everybody does a thing, and then right back
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 7: in you can tell that they're all locked in.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: Nick in Boston writes in I agree with Evan that
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: getting a playoff win helps validate this season. It also
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: helps fight off the Twitter trolls, which is just as important.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: Of course, since the Texans play a vanilla scheme built
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: on having better players across the board, what is the
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: approach for McDaniels to exploit them?
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 5: What is the weakness?
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: Also, if Darian Lowe had the game that Campbell had
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: against the Charges, the fan base would be melting down.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: I think we are seeing his limitations at the highest level.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: I will wait until the summer or to take my
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: Membo Victory lap.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 6: Well, Membo plays right tackle, so that would have really helped.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 6: But yeah, they look Campbell struggled in the game, and
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 6: I'm not like going to say that he didn't. It's
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 6: not the same as Vidarien Lowe because Darren Lowe is
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 6: not a rookie playing his first ever playoff game, and
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 6: isn't it you know, you're not expecting him to improve
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 6: at all like Campbell. You're hoping that this was a
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 6: learning experience for him, something that he can grow from
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 6: and you know, experience for the first time, So you know,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 6: I think that was a little bit of the part
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 6: of why Jared Wilson played in this game too.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 4: Like I think that they view both those guys on
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 4: the left side.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 6: I don't know if it's going to be at center
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 6: guard for Wilson, but they're going to be two starters
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 6: on this offensive line for at least their rookie contracts.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 6: They think, and you hope that you're going to be
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 6: playing a lot of playoff games, you know, during that
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 6: span of time, and the only way to get him
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 6: ready for that is to have him play.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: You know who deserves you know, kind of uh uh
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: an apology Chisholm. No, Garrett Bradbury coming in, Everyone's like, oh,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: look at the stats against the past. You know last
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: year with the Vikings, he's going to be terrible. He
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: hasn't been. He's been fine.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 10: So I would agree with your assessment of the player's performance.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 10: He's been more than fine. I think he's been excellent
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 10: all season. But do you have to apologize for people
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 10: who said that he didn't have a good year last.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 5: Year because they didn't put it in context?
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 10: What was the context?
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: If you look close about what was happening during those games,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: it wasn't.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 8: All his fault.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: Okay, this is one of those things where PFF had
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: him here and I watched the game.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 6: I watched the game for it was like the past
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 6: protection for him in his last year in Minnesota was rough.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 8: So what happened then? Did you feel like he but
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 8: he's been really good.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 6: I wonder, I wonder how much of it is, you know,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 6: system related. You know, guys talk a lot about how
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 6: streamlined this this system is and the past protection rules
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 6: are and uh, you know this stuff like that. I mean,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 6: this is essentially Dante Scarnekia's system that Josh McDaniel still
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 6: runs just with it, you know, his own twist on it.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 6: So the proof's in the putting of whether it works
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 6: or not. And I just wonder if maybe that the
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 6: system change helped him out a little bit. But I mean,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 6: Paul's right, like last year in Minnesota was tough, like
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 6: but this year was definite.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 5: Like his whole career hasn't been like that.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 6: He's never been like a great pass protector, becaus a
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 6: little bit under sized, but last year was particularly bad.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 6: Into his credit, he's bounced back and he I think
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 6: at this point, you know him and Moses, I thought
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 6: Moses was probably their best lineman in this game. On
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 6: Sunday night. You know, you probably want to bring those
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 6: guys back for another year and keep it rolling if
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 6: you can.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, uh so then.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: But the reason I thought of that is, you know,
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: you talked about Jared Wilson, like, if the ultimate plan
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: is to move him at center, how long are you
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: going to delay that?
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 6: I know, I know it's a good question, and I
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 6: I think Jared Wilson's the center. I think it just
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 6: fits his body type better, and it fits his skill
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 6: set better because he is a little bit undersized to
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 6: play guard and gets pushed around a little bit at
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 6: guard by some of the bigger defensive tackles. So I
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 6: would move him to center if they can, But Bradberry's
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 6: been so solid that it is a tough decision.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: Miles writes in something that bugged me on Sunday. All
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: day during the morning and afternoon games, the NFL was
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: using the virtual spot assist on close calls for first downs.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: Then the Patriots game comes on and Herbert I think
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: reaches through on a third down and the rest felt
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 3: like he reached his arm out in the pile to
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: get the first Even the comment commentators didn't think he
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: got it. The play didn't end up mattering. I'm just
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: curious what constitutes the use of the spot assist feature
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: and why they couldn't just use it.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 10: There so two different things. I would agree that I
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 10: thought that that was a curious reversal of their original
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 10: call that he had made the line to gain the
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 10: problem the virtual assist, the ball was spotted wherever it's spotted,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 10: and then they virtually assisted to see if he got
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 10: the first down. That wasn't in question where they put
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 10: the ball got the first down. The question was did
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 10: they put the ball in the right spot? Did Herbert
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 10: get where? You know, as far as they spotted the ball,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 10: and I think the Collinsworth and in Tariico felt like
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 10: they didn't. I think we all kind of felt in
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 10: the press box that didn't really seem like it was
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 10: definitive that he had reached the line the game, right,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 10: I mean, speaking for you, Yes, I didn't think he
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 10: got the first.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 7: Down when we were they call it short. They called
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 7: it short and they reversed it correct.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, which I think is crazy.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it didn't not care, you know, let
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 10: me well.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 7: And then they had another one where the the whole
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 7: virtual assist is not needed, the whole virtualist.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 10: He was past the thing the problem was I think
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 10: it was a bad spot.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 6: It's a the whole virtual assisting is that. I don't
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 6: understand it. It adds nothing.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 10: It's useless.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 4: It's absolutely useless. Like it doesn't spot the ball.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 6: It's just measuring what he got the first down, just
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 6: like the chain gang would if they ran the chains
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 6: out there like they normally do. So I just maybe
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 6: it's the first step towards like technology spotting the ball
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 6: and they just wanted to test this step first before
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 6: they threw the gamut at it.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 4: But like it's to waste the.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 10: Time and just to reiterate just real quick if they
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 10: did reverse it. They originally call on the field was
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 10: that he was he was stopped short of the line
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 10: to gain. The call was reversed by replay. The replay
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 10: official reviewed it and he determined that he had reached
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 10: the line to gain. So it wasn't like, well, if
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 10: they brought the sticks out or they did, virtual assistant
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 10: would have showed that he was short. That's not what
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 10: the issue was. The issue was where they spotted the ball.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Mark Poland says, I hate to be that guy.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: I thought this is interesting, you know, it's a little
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: bit off topic, but I believe this deserves an explanation
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: as it's been the vocal point of the past few shows.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: Didn't want to ruin the fun as I absolutely loved
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: the nickname. But all the Drake Drake may may name
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: origin theories are wrong. The truth is it's, unfortunately just
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: a stolen bit. It originated in twenty nineteen and it
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: was first used for Nas Reed of Minnesota Timberwolves. It
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: started with Wolves fans just randomly typing nas Reed under
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: random posts online, so nas nas red Red became his nickname.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 5: Then in the NFL Giants fan.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: Then used it for Evan Evan Neil Neil, but as
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 3: he sucks nobody, but the Giants fans remember it, and
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 3: last year Pages fans, mainly Drake may Lover, just started
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: using it for Drake.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 5: That's it.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 3: All the Tom Brady theories, et cetera are completely false.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 3: The truth is it's just a stolen bit.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 6: Uh yes and no, okay, So he's right about naz Reid.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 4: I know, you know that's true.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 6: This is not so that was seven years ago, but
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 6: they didn't invent it in that sense. But it is
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 6: definitely picking up way more steam than the nas Reed
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 6: thing you ever did.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 5: That's beside the point.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 6: But no, Reed is a sixth man in the NBA
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 6: that comes off the te wolves bench like this is
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 6: this is a much different thing.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 6: And then the the Tom Brady thing was that some
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 6: they were calling him Drake Tom Brady May as if
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 6: to like say, he's the next goat. We know that, right,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 6: We've been over that, right, So then that that's this
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 6: we're we were talking about the origin of it for
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 6: Drake May.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 10: Okay, no one cares about.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 4: What happened with NASERI ten years ago.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 10: I kind of care if it's a stolen bit, it's not.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 4: I don't call it stolen. That's a stretch.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: Other people have been called the goat before. But Brady,
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: it's more applicable.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 8: I mean, on I heard them refer to Josh Josh
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 8: Allen Allen and that was like, oh, this can't no, no, no, no, no,
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 8: you can't.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 10: Now that's stolen.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 6: No that I don't understand what the problem is, whether
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 6: it was stolen or not.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 4: Still like, I don't know, I just get back to.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 10: The original premise. Not all that funny.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 8: It needs to be funny.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 10: I don't know why it needs to be funny. I
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 10: just don't think it's funny.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 5: Nicknames are't supposed to be funny. Names are fun, they're fun,
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 5: but they don't have to be funny.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 10: This one's not.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 5: Is it different?
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 10: Neither? It's not fun nor fun.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 8: Nas it's fun or funny.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 4: Good player is a nice player, but like we're not.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 4: He's a stretch five. You wouldn't understand.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 8: Here's an email.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 3: I just saw the headline and I knew I might
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: like it.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 5: Second down sneaks.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 10: Oh, Fred is so annoyed all the time.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: Stan up here in Buffalo Country. I wonder if you
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: ever discussed the second and one quarterbacks? And he's as
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: bothers the heck out of me. Thank you, Josh from Syracuse.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: Maybe with the short yardist problems, the thought is, let's
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 3: just get the.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 5: First down and move on. It should be a down
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 5: distance where we take a shot down field. Any thought?
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 10: I agree?
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 5: I don't. You don't necessarily have to be a shot.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: But your whole playbook is open if you don't get it,
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 3: if it's an incomplete or whatever your book. You know, like,
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: why would you waste it on a quarterback.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 6: Sneak because they can't pick up a third and one.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 6: They really struggle in short yards. Third you've gained a yard, yeah, exactly,
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 6: and you don't have to play third down.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 10: I don't like it.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 8: I hear it.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 4: I hear what you're saying in terms of like it in.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 10: Even and I think it's something that they done.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 5: Even a little swing pass of the back, maybe he
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 5: breaks it, there's no chance of a bigger play once
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 5: the quarterback dies forward. That's it.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 6: I don't think they want to be in third and short.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 6: I don't think they could. I don't think they want
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 6: to be in there.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 10: I agree with you that they've struggled in those situations
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 10: of the worst. But I think that Josh's offense is
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 10: not just Josh. It was when Billy Oh was here,
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 10: and going back to Charlie Weiss, they did that a lot.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 10: The second and one sneak just to get the first out. Yeah,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 10: and I and Fred is in fairness to Fred, this
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 10: is something that it has bothered him for a long time.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 10: But I kind of agree with Fred on it. I
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 10: think it's passing up an opportunity to make a play.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 10: I agree, if you get the next two, then what
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 10: are we doing?
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 6: I agree, if you're on the other side of the fifty. Like,
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 6: if you're on the opponent's side of the and you're right,
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 6: you know, let's say you're between you know, the twenty
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 6: five in the fifty, that's a shot play opportunity to
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 6: the end zone, right, So it's a little bit different.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 6: Whereas if you're on you know, the other side, your
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 6: side of the fifty yard line, I think you know
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 6: to stay out a third down there and just yeah.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 10: I would say if you're up in your own end,
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 10: like it may be inside, you're twenty and it's second
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 10: and one, sure get the first down. There's value in
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 10: the field position or whatever. Otherwise you should be able
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 10: to get the first down.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 4: With two more plays, you should be able to. But
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 4: everybody can.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: Uh Noah thinks from Toronto, Ben Brown needs to start
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: over Jared Wilson. Wilson has not been good all year,
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: and I think Vrabel is only starting him to make
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 3: his draft look better.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 5: I don't know about that.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 6: I agree that the Ben Brown conversation should needs to
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 6: be had. I don't I don't expect it to be
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 6: had because it seems like they that's the five they
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 6: started the season with, and that's the five that they
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 6: kind of want to stick with. But there's no doubt
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 6: that Ben Brown has been better than what we saw
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 6: from Jared Wilson on Sunday Night, that's for sure.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 7: He wants to justify Ben Brown's extension now, and maybe
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 7: it's time to switch and say this is why we
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 7: extended him too.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 6: I think there's something to be said for the fact
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 6: that Ben Brown's a little bit girthier. He's a little
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 6: bit bigger body type, and especially when you have Campbell
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 6: at left tackle, who is already a little bit of
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 6: a narrower build, when you put him and Jared Wilson
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 6: next to each other on the left side, they're just small.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 4: They're just not They're just a small left side of
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 4: the lot out there.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, So you know when that's what the whole wingspan
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 6: thing is. It's an amount of space that you literally
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 6: take up your your square footage on the field. And
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 6: I think Ben Brown's, you know, got a little bit
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 6: more size to him and a little bit more with
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 6: to him that allows him to take up a little
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 6: bit more space.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 5: Working out some kinks. Oh, Patty's an agamon? What's up?
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 8: Patty?
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: It was like.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 9: Hello, so hello, can you hear me?
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: Hello?
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 17: Okay, sorry, So just talking about the officiating, Paul, I'm
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 17: with you. I don't want to see any more flags
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 17: than we necessarily need to see. In fact, one of
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 17: you guys had the idea of like the illegal man downfield.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 17: I think that needs to go or at least like
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 17: make it within five yards. Nothing crazy, but like there's
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 17: just there's way too many of those calls that are
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 17: being thrown out there.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 4: It would be impossible to play defense if you take
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 4: out illegal man downfield.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't think you could just let the guys
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 10: go downfield and get out and block and whatnot. But
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 10: I do think that that there's a happy medium to
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 10: what Patty's talking about. Maybe give him a little more
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 10: leeway if it's clear that the guy is not he's
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 10: pass blocking, not running down to get in front of
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 10: a screen.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 6: The issues with the RPOs and like in college, absolutely
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 6: it's crazy, Like they let the linemen get like six
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 6: eight yards down the field and they're the quarterbacks.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 8: Holding the mesh, holding the mesh.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 4: I can't do that, Yeah, he can't stop.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 10: It's more about the formations, the illegal shifts, those kinds
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 10: of penalties I think they could probably yeah, shortened you know,
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 10: shrink the rule book down a little bit.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 8: Pretty good job by round Torbert on Sunday night.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 10: For the most part, I thought that the officials weren't
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 10: really a big part of these games. I thought there
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 10: were some calls that were missed in the game, but
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 10: I would rather have it that way and not look
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 10: at it and say, jeez, we've got another ref show
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 10: on our hands. I thought that was the Rams game,
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 10: the first playoff game. I was like, here we go.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 10: It's going to be the same thing that we've gotten
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 10: all year. The refs are going to inject themselves. And
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 10: then I was pleasantly surprised that the remaining games, the
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 10: teams generally decided it.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 3: Craig and Charlotte can't believe we're here talking about the
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 3: Division round playoffs and how to advance to the AFC Championship.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 3: Admittedly I liked our matchup against the Steelers better, but
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 3: after watching last night's game, I see a path past
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: the Texans too, if we can neutralize some of their
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: pass rush. On that note, one thing we haven't really
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: seen this team do much this year, aside from maybe
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 3: the two minute drill, is you is up tempo to
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 3: keep the defense on the field and wear them down.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 3: Do you think Josh is saving a tactic like this
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 3: for time like this or do you think it's too
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 3: risky for a young team to execute.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 8: I wouldn't.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 7: I mean, I just as Evan laid out, they don't
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 7: really change personnel much. They kind of do what they do.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 7: So sometimes I think that's an advantage for the offense
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 7: when they do a lot of switching.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 8: They want to have it.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 10: But last night those guys were in and out, but not.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 8: Like to the point where, all right, this is the situation.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 7: We need a whole new group of guys, Like I mean,
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 7: there'll be a little bit of mixing matching with the front,
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 7: but I think they.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 10: Look like seventeen guys play more than twenty percent of
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 10: their snaps on.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 8: Defense, like four tackles maybe you know.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 10: And then what I'm saying is they had autry Rankins,
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 10: Derek Barnett, there was a guy Jones. I can't not
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 10: ninety eight, I want to say. But it's just.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 7: Rotation, right, Like it's not like they rotate. Oh no,
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 7: we can't rotate this time. We're screwed.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 8: Like they're fine to like stay with our package out
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 8: there and you.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 10: Want to hurry. I wonder if I thought that was
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 10: my best way to move the ball, not because I
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 10: want to dig to with the deef, because you guys,
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 10: both of you guys talked about how the Texans are
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 10: one of those we do what we do kind of
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 10: the defenses. So it's not like you're trying to get
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 10: them in a package that you you don't want them
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 10: to sup. They're going to do it anyway. Whether you
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 10: can get them out of nickel, like Evan said, with
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 10: Petrie and sort of affect where he's lining up, you
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 10: might be able to do that. But they're going to
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 10: play their style, I would think, but they I think
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 10: you're gonna have to have Drake may play really well.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 10: You want to move the ball. But like I looked
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 10: at it last night, as I thought the Steelers had
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 10: some opportunities and Rogers isn't in a spot anymore to
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 10: physically do it, I think Drake may will be able
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 10: to make some of those plays that Rogers couldn't.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 6: Last I think maybe you know, certainly, you know, if
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 6: you get them into base defense and you want to
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 6: go tempo so that they can't take the base defense
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 6: off the field, then maybe you can catch them in
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 6: the matchup like that. I'm not a big fan of
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 6: tempo in general.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 3: It's just no huddle, right, just go no huddle. They
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 3: don't necessarily have to up the tempo.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 4: You can't huddle.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean, I'm not a huge fan of
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 6: of doing of that in general. I think it's it's
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 6: kind of like smoking mirrorsy, like you know, you can
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 6: it can work situationally, it can work in certain spots,
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 6: but I think Chip Kelly taught us that that's not
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 6: going to work like as like a way of offense
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 6: in the league.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 7: I think they used it against Rex Ryan a lot
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 7: who wants to do a lot of walking around and
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 7: who's going to be where, And at a certain point
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 7: they're like, we're just going to run the play right again,
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 7: you do what you want to do, you know.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 5: So yep, good good dudes.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 3: Uh Daniels in Chicago, what's up to work against Rex Ryan?
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 5: What's up, Daniel?
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 9: Guys for some caller?
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 20: Hear me?
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, get some work going on in the background, Daniel, I.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 15: Got off speaker. Can you hear me better?
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 10: Yeah, we can hear you.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 15: Yeah, Okay, sorry, this is a question I guess for Evan,
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 15: just like looking back up the game and seeing maybe
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 15: Herbert had a couple opportunities to hit Lad McConkie down
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 15: the field. I know he was open on the right
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 15: side one time and there was just all the space,
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 15: and then when he was running down the scheme, maybe
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 15: he could have thrown a ball over the top. I
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 15: was wondering if you guys are worried that Stroud next
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 15: Sunday is going to be able to hit anything vertical
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 15: on our defund I know our defunds played really well,
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 15: but yeah, that's my question.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 9: I shall hang up.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say, like, you know, I I think
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 6: I mentioned this during the break, but you know the
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 6: all twenty two dogs are out for justin Herbert right
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 6: now and rightfully so he did not play well. But
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 6: when you start to you know, we're all guilty of
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 6: this at times. When you start to sit there and
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 6: watch the film back on your computer screen, it's really
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 6: easy for you to say it. Sit there and say, well,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 6: this guy's open, right, that guy's open. Yeah, this guy's open. Uh,
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 6: you're not the one like sitting in the pot with
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 6: Christian Barmore and Milton Williams coming after you. So I
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 6: think that there's some element to it both ways. You know,
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 6: I think he missed probably the four or five opportunities
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 6: that the Patriots gave him to push the ball down
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 6: the field. And you know, I think he said this earlier, Paul,
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 6: he missed all five like it wasn't like he hit
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 6: three in the five.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 7: I think mostly like fourteen yards, just like the longest play,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 7: yeah he hit.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 6: He was zero for five, whether that was missing open
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 6: guys or the ones he tried to attempt, and.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 10: Stroud did hit some of those. Last night. I took
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 10: Stroud played a terrible game overall, but he hit Kirk
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 10: I think twice on downfield throws. He had another long
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 10: catching run that was a shorter throw. He also put
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 10: one right in nole is not Noel, no no, put
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 10: it right in his hands and the rookie let it
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 10: get threw his hands into his body. And then when
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 10: the hit came and knocked the ball loose. That was
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 10: a good throw too deep down the field. So there
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 10: were opportunities that Stroud took it advantage of. I thought
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 10: Rogers had the same opportunities and either didn't get the
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 10: proper time or didn't connect on them. So you will
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 10: get chances to make plays down the field. Again, if
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 10: Stroud plays like he did Monday night, they're going to lose.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 10: He's not going to get away with that against the Patriots.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 6: The one thing with Stroud is uh he wants to
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 6: throw in breaking routes to the intermediate part of the field, Like.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 10: That's where Nico Collins missing is huge.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 4: That's his game.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 6: That's his game he wants to you know, if you
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 6: look at all the splits, you know his efficiency throwing
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 6: the intermediate middle is.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 10: He's see some of those trolls last night, one to
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 10: Higgins on an incut one to he wants to Throwson
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 10: early in the game and.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 5: Loss Gonzo for the Patriots or Collins for the Texans.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 10: I'd say it's a wash. I think those two really
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 10: important guys for their teams.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 4: I think that Gonzo has a better chance to play.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 5: No, but that's not the question.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 4: I think it's a wash too, But I think Gonzo
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 4: has his best chance to play.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 5: I need the looks of it. I agree.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 6: But you know, like Paul said, he was on universe
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 6: like Saturn or something.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 10: I thought. But if you had told me after the
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 10: game that Christian Gonzalez was going to see some of
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 10: you guys and say I'm fine. I would have said
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 10: no way, not based on the way you walk down
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 10: the tunnel, but he was. So you know, if you're Houston,
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 10: maybe you flew home and he's feeling a lot better today,
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 10: but a lot I.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 6: Would stay, they're fine, And you know, Millon Williams gets
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 6: put on IR a day later, so you know, I'm
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 6: not saying that's going to happen with Gonzo.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I hope it doesn't, and you're right about that.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 10: You know, maybe Houston gets home and you know he
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 10: feels a lot better. I agree with you guys that
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 10: the visual with the tonnel on the head and getting
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 10: carted off didn't look like he's going to play this week.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 5: Usually with a head, the guy walks to the locker room.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 8: Usually.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was interesting on Friday listening to Jerry Wilson
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 7: just talk about his experience.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 8: You don't really hear about players talk about it a lot.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 8: And he was saying, you know, you feel.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 7: Okay, and then you wake up and you have a headache,
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 7: and you know you just have to roll with the
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 7: punches a little bit, and then finally, you know, he
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 7: woke up, he didn't have a headache, and it's like,
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 7: all right, now I'm getting better.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 10: But it's it's.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 7: One of those things you just don't know. I don't
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 7: think we have any idea on either of those guys.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's weird because that game, Jared Wilson didn't leave
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 6: the game but had a worse concussion than Trevon Henderson,
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 6: who came back the very next week and was being
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 6: played the very next week.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 4: And Jared Wilson missed two full games.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 5: What they consion should have taken him out.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 8: I think he said it was like the last player
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 8: of the second Yeah, it was like the last.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 4: Player of the game. So that's why I didn't get
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 4: taken out.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 3: Eldred, North Carolina, what's up Belt? Oh that's a rare
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 3: hang up by Eldred. Yeah, Nathan writes in I wanted
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 3: to share a brief point about how this season has
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 3: been framed at times, along with a question ahead of
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 3: the Patriots Texans matchup. While I do not think analysts
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 3: leaned too heavily on history, media narratives often framed games
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 3: around past streaks and long standing trends as if they
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 3: meaningfully predict outcomes. In a league built on parody, that
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 3: approach can miss what actually decides a game. A good
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 3: example was Texans Steelers. By historical standards, Pittsburgh had him
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 3: every reason to win. They had not lost a Monday
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 3: night football game since ninety one, while Houston had never
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 3: won a road playoff game. If history were truly predicted,
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 3: that result should have felt inevitable. Instead, it had no
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 3: bearing once the game began execution blah blah blah.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 5: That is why niche.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 3: Historical arguments about why a team cannot win often fall apart.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 3: History is relevant only until it is broken, and in
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 3: the NFL, it has broken constantly. From that perspective, there
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 3: is no inherent reason the Patriots cannot become the first
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 3: team to win a Super Bowl after a four win season.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 5: The year before.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 4: That was a very long way to get together.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 10: Yeah, point, because I would just say, you picked and
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 10: choosed what you wanted to use for your historical comparisons.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 10: Because what I've been seeing all day on ESPN as
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 10: we're doing our show is the Steelers' recent playoff hishty
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 10: and loss. They have been down by twenty one or
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 10: more points now seven consecutive playoff losses. So did you
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 10: use that as your history, because that's what I was
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 10: using as my history. This team has no chance, right,
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 10: They're not as good as the playoff teams because they're
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 10: not really a playoff team.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 6: The one I was thinking of was West Coast coming
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 6: east in cold weather. Just what the Chargers just did
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 6: and then put up three points. And I don't think
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 6: that's why they put up three points, but that will
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 6: go as another you know stat in the West Coast
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 6: out indoor team, outdoor team.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 5: You know tench that Sofi Stadium is an outdoor stadium.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 4: Yes, outdoors an eighty degree weather.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And the same thing that was going around last
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 7: week with like the circadian rhythms of West Coast teams,
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 7: like they're going to be ready to play.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 10: Come up with all these things.
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  Speaker 5: One other question from Nate.
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  Speaker 3: He says, if something goes wrong early in the game Sunday,
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  Speaker 3: which team do you trust more to settle in and
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  Speaker 3: respond within the game rather than letting it spiral?
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  Speaker 10: Patriots.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, they've shown it already.
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  Speaker 6: That's how you want this game to go. You want
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  Speaker 6: the Patriots to get a lead and make that Texans
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  Speaker 6: offense have to score.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: I just watched C. J. Stroud the other last night,
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  Speaker 10: and I didn't think he responded well to some of
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 10: the early adversity and it seemed like it rattled him,
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  Speaker 10: whereas I've seen Drake may have some struggles early in
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  Speaker 10: games and he just commediately responds to it.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Man, it's still a new development though. That's like I
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  Speaker 7: still am, like, I think I feel good about it,
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  Speaker 7: but I'm also you know, it's it's also new.
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  Speaker 10: Plus their home, you know, I would give the home
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  Speaker 10: team more of an opportunity to overcome you know, early stumbles.
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  Speaker 3: Mary, No, this is yeah, Mary right. Sin Official colon
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  Speaker 3: Sean Smith will be the referee for the next game
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  Speaker 3: of the Patriots unfavorable trend for the home team.
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  Speaker 5: While other referees see the.
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  Speaker 3: Home team win fifty five point nine percent of the time,
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  Speaker 3: with Smith, it drops to forty point eight averages eleven
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  Speaker 3: flags per game in his last four playoff games.
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  Speaker 10: Wow, but that's a that's a daggering numbers.
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  Speaker 7: Home teams only win forty percent of the time when
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 7: this guy refs yep.
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  Speaker 3: Was the referee for the Patriots Giants of this season
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  Speaker 3: thirty three to fifteen in favor of new England, so.
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  Speaker 10: That was one of the forty.
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  Speaker 5: The Patriots record with him as referee is two and one. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: some good insight from Mary, Thank you.
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  Speaker 8: I try to ignore those things. I don't even want to.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 8: I don't even know who the ref is. I don't
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 8: want I think. Last week I heard I know tour Bird,
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 8: so I was a little bit into it.
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  Speaker 6: But the best is when like the you know, somebody
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 6: like Mike Grease who I love, will tweet like the
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 6: ref the ref's number, like you know numbers, just judge
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 6: no number sixty two in your program.
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  Speaker 7: I love me some Mike Grease, but man, he'll tweet
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  Speaker 7: some minutia.
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  Speaker 10: Yes, not really of any value.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 5: Parker says, part of why Paul is struggling with the
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 5: nickname of Drake May is because this.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 3: Is Internet culture twenty twenty six. Things don't always make sense.
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  Speaker 10: But that I just want to Spider Man meme.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 3: That is the point six seven literally means nothing when
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 3: it comes to deep Internet culture. Drake's nickname not making
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 3: complete sense is part of what is fueling it. It
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 3: becomes a if you know, you know thing, even though
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 3: there's not much to know.
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  Speaker 10: All right, all right, well, listen I think that's largely accurate. Yeah,
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  Speaker 10: you don't want to get to the last couple of calls.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 3: Listen now that's oh, we got a couple of callers.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 3: Oh okay. Sometimes when I look at my computer screen
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 3: and then I look up at the board, I can't
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 3: read it. Sean Sean is Sean Sean, otherwise known as
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 3: Sean from Boston.
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  Speaker 5: What's up?
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  Speaker 15: Hey, guys?
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 5: Have it going okay?
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 9: Awesome?
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  Speaker 26: So I just had a couple of things that I
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 26: wanted to say. The first thing was that I was
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 26: at the game this past weekend and it was my
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 26: first game ever, and it was just a great experience
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 26: because I remember in the twenty fourteen Divisional round against
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 26: the Ravens, there was a moment where the crowd was
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 26: singing your Love by the outfield and it sounded like
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 26: such a cool experience to be there, and I was
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 26: able to experience that feeling again when it happened this
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 26: past weekend in my first game ever. So I just
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 26: wanted to like shout out the fan base because it's
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 26: just like such an awesome community and such an awesome feeling.
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  Speaker 10: There's a good crowd Sunday night. Yeah, that's a good crowd.
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 3: Good shot out Sean, that's actually my thing for the
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 3: PU TV show talk about the crowd, and Vrabel even
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 3: mentioned it.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, that was pretty good. Digs evidently didn't, but everybody
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 10: else thought it was good.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 3: And I thought, and I thought maybe, I don't know,
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 3: maybe the sound was better. But it was one of
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 3: the few games I can remember here at Gillette where
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 3: the fans sang along for the national anthem, which doesn't
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 3: happen a lot here.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there was two times Hunter Henry's touchdown and Elis
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 6: his fumble recovery where the press box was shaping.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 10: Hunter henry touchdown. I definitely felt it, and.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 4: That's not that doesn't happen very often year.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 10: So I don't remember it since that game that he's
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 10: talking about, Baltimore game be four teams the last time
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 10: I remember the stadium showing.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 3: It's a new vibe here with the team. Maybe it's
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 3: a new vibe with the fans too.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 6: It's hard to like get really jazz up first sixteen
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 6: to three game.
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  Speaker 5: Wait a minute, I disagree. Those defensive stops get you going,
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 5: come on, waiting.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 10: For that big thing. I'm pretty ventful.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 6: Like well, I think Diggs was talking about some of
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 6: the lulls, and I think some of the lows were
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 6: because it was a pun festival like two quarters.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 5: But when when you.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 3: Make them go three and out or you force them
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 3: to punt on a third down, stop, crowd should get
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 3: up for that.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 6: I don't disagree, but it's not gonna happen like it
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 6: would for a touchdown or.
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 7: Player introductions growing on you at all. I know you
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 7: weren't a fan of that early. You still don't like it.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 7: You like introduce as a team.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 3: The thing about player introductions is they introduce it, then
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 3: they stand there for the anthem and everything goes down,
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 3: you know, so like there's a there's no way to
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 3: keep that going.
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 4: We're just not gonna We're not gonna win them over
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 4: on that, I don't think.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 10: So I'm introducing Friend's got a little potential m.
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 4: VP that you don't care on Sunday Night football in
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 4: the playoff.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 10: I don't like fun in general.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 8: I like funny.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 10: You just don't like fun.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 5: Marty's in Tacoma, Washington. What's up, Marty, Mighty Marty?
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 9: How's it going?
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 2: Hey?
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 11: So, one thing I wanted to say about the Patriots.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 11: They're saying that like we're we haven't our schedule isn't
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 11: good enough.
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 5: You know, we're not saying that.
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 11: No, No, the media is saying that we haven't played
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 11: enough people, so therefore our run isn't is good?
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 10: Right, right?
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 11: Right? Look back in history and the two other instances
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 11: where a team won the Super Bowl that had a
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 11: week schedule, in fact, just about as week as ours is.
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 11: This year was the greatest show on turf. And when
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 11: the Tampa Bay Bucks won the Super Bowl, Now nobody's
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 11: going back and saying, oh, the greatest show on turf
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 11: wasn't really the greatest show on turf, right, I Mean,
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 11: nobody says anything bad about them, but they have to
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 11: have a covey on. It's why we're winning.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 24: Right.
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 11: That's one. There's one. The second thing I wanted to
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 11: say was that it's just a quick story about being
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 11: a Pats fan. I live in Washington State now, grew
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 11: up in Massachusetts, and in nineteen seventy eight, I was
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 11: at a church function was like a Protestant church. I'm
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 11: a Catholic, but went to a prostant church because they
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 11: had a raffle and Steve and I won the raffle
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 11: and I was given an NFL football by Steve Grogan
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 11: in nineteen seventy eight. I've been a Pats fan for
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 11: life since then. Okay, I got, I got, I'm serious.
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 11: I look forward to this.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 10: Uh.
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 11: I think they're going to make a good run. I
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 11: think if if they can shure up the line, like
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 11: maybe throw an extra tight end on the left left
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 11: side to help Will and Wilson out or Campbell and Wilson.
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 11: I think that, you know, may should have time to
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 11: throw the ball downfield.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 10: All right, thanks, I don't.
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 4: I know we have to go, but good for that.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 6: After being the Chargers, I haven't heard a single person
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 6: bring up the schedule now. And I'm not saying like
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 6: but that's I'm not saying as in like, yeah, we
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 6: shut them up.
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying like.
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you are no like if you beat the Chargers
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 6: in the and like you make.
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 4: It at the championship game, I don't think to make.
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 5: It all the way if you would have had to
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 5: have beaten good team.
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know that's like that's my point.
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just beat the teams and shut them up. That's it. Sure,
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 5: all right, we'll be back.
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 3: Tomorrow catch twenty two Tomorrow ten am ten am okay,
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 3: still going love it all right?
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 5: See you then, Hey, this is Alex.
• 2:02:24
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