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Peace, Power, and Mindset with Desi Bartlett - Finding Balance in Life, Fitness & Mindfulness · The Body Pod

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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, This is Haley and I'm Lara, and welcome
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Speaker 1: to the body Pod.
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Speaker 2: Today.
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Speaker 3: We are honored to be joined by Desi Bartlett, a
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Speaker 3: woman's health expert with over thirty years in the world
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Speaker 3: of yoga, fitness and holistic health. Desi holds advanced certifications
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Speaker 3: in yoga, personal training, pre and postnatal fitness, and group fitness.
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Speaker 3: She's the founder of the innovative Desi body Mind Platform,
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Speaker 3: author of Your Strong Sexy Pregnancy, and co author of
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Speaker 3: Total Body Beauty. With a master's degree and nearly completed PhD,
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Speaker 3: Desi has dedicated her life to helping others achieve balance, strength,
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Speaker 3: and peace. Join us as we tap into her wisdom
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Speaker 3: and let it guide you to a more balanced, empowered,
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Speaker 3: and peaceful life. Haley and I walked away from this
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Speaker 3: conversation calmer and inspired to work on our mindset and
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Speaker 3: intentions daily, helping us to peace and balance in the
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Speaker 3: chaos of life. Her energy is contagious. Hi, Dozy, thanks
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Speaker 3: so much for being here with us from Hawaii. Haley
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Speaker 3: and I both wish we were there with you in
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Speaker 3: person to.
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Speaker 2: Do this interview. Jolly Helloha, Thank you so low for
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Speaker 2: having me. It's such a privilege and an honor to
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Speaker 2: be able to share what I love to do and
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Speaker 2: to help empower women all over the world, and to
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Speaker 2: be able to do that from this island is extra special.
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Speaker 2: And I feel like every morning when I wake up
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Speaker 2: and I look out at the ocean and the sunrise,
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Speaker 2: it's like there's this sense of renewal and I'm given
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Speaker 2: strength each day and then I get to go share it.
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Speaker 2: So it's a blessing.
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Speaker 4: Can we come visit you?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yes, please do.
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Speaker 3: We can do yoga on the beach, all the things
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Speaker 3: we can do yoga on the beach.
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Speaker 2: I've got two spare beds Casa Sukrassa.
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Speaker 4: Yes, love it.
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Speaker 3: So for those of our listeners that aren't familiar with you,
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Speaker 3: why don't you give us a brief background of what
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Speaker 3: got you into fitness and about your book and what
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Speaker 3: is does he mind Body?
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Speaker 2: So I'm originally from downtown Chicago and my mother was
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Speaker 2: a hippie. She was a disciple of Goswami Korean Nanda
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Speaker 2: at the Temple of Korea Yoga in Chicago. I was
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Speaker 2: given my first mantra at the age of six years old.
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Speaker 2: I learned how to meditate and I didn't really learn
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Speaker 2: so much about the physical practice of yoga at that time.
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Speaker 2: Fast forward, I got really deep into ballet. I went
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Speaker 2: to Arizona State my first year of college. I was
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Speaker 2: in a ballet class. I went to the doctor because
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Speaker 2: I had knee problems. I'm like, please help me, my
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Speaker 2: knee hurts. He said, don't worry. You just need to
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Speaker 2: strengthen your quads. And I said, what's a quad? And
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Speaker 2: as fate would have it, that evening, Jackie Paisley May
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Speaker 2: she rest in peace. She was fourth place Miss Olympia
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Speaker 2: that year. She had come and spoken to our sorority
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Speaker 2: and she was teaching us about nutrition and how to
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Speaker 2: recomp your body and all of the things. And so
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Speaker 2: I went and spoke with her afterwards, and I said, Hey,
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Speaker 2: I've got this quad thing and can you help me?
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Speaker 2: And she said, yes, of course, and she took me
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Speaker 2: to my first gym that I ever went to, Bovey's
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Speaker 2: Gym in Arizona. It's kind of like the Golds of Arizona.
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Speaker 2: And I fell so in love and I felt this
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Speaker 2: whole body click of like this is it. This is
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Speaker 2: where I'm supposed to be. And so I changed my
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Speaker 2: major to kinesiology. I wound up moving back to Chicago
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Speaker 2: because I felt like a su is super fun, but
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Speaker 2: I was really learning how to party a little too well.
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Speaker 2: So I went back right totally. And then I went
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Speaker 2: on to get my degree in kinesiology, my master's in
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Speaker 2: corporate fitness. I'm a little bit, a little bit dedicated
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Speaker 2: to education, and so I got like every certification under
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Speaker 2: the sun, personal training, group, fitness, you name it. And
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Speaker 2: from there, stick with me just for another minute here
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Speaker 2: of the journey, because it all comes together from there.
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Speaker 2: I moved to Mexico and I opened a gym, Cobbo
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Speaker 2: Health and Fitness. I'm half Mexican and did not grow
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Speaker 2: up with my biological father, and I wanted to learn Spanish,
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Speaker 2: and I wanted to learn about my culture, and I
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Speaker 2: wanted to bring fitness to Mexico. So I moved down there.
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Speaker 2: I opened this gym, and this wonderful man walks in
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Speaker 2: one day and he says, I would like to teach
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Speaker 2: yoga at your gym. And I said what's your name?
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Speaker 2: And he said Tona Tu, And I'm like, what does
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Speaker 2: that mean? It's the Aztech name for the Sun God.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, of course, complays teach yoga right, So
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Speaker 2: as he's teaching yoga, my body had this memory of like,
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Speaker 2: oh yeah, I did this as a little kid, and
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Speaker 2: then this whole concept of like, wait, I need both
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Speaker 2: of these for my body mind, for my bodymind complex,
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Speaker 2: for health. If I can lift heavy and enjoy yoga,
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Speaker 2: this is what makes my heart sing. And so fast forward.
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Speaker 2: I moved to LA a few years later because I
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Speaker 2: wanted to get deeper into media and my dream back
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Speaker 2: in the day was to do a DVD. So I
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Speaker 2: went on to do t ENDBDS, yoga, fitness for Yoga, dance,
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Speaker 2: all the things. And when I was thirty seven, I
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Speaker 2: had my first pregnancy with my son Cruise, and I
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Speaker 2: started going to people's classes, yoga classes, and I'm like,
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Speaker 2: I felt like Goldilocks, like this class is too hard,
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Speaker 2: this class is too easy, this class they don't say
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Speaker 2: the word baby, and my goodness, I've had so much
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Speaker 2: education at this point I needed to step up and
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Speaker 2: create something that felt good in my own body. So
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Speaker 2: I went into deep meditation. I spoke to the baby
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Speaker 2: inside and I said I'm going to move with you,
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Speaker 2: please guide me. And that was how I started to
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Speaker 2: get really deep into prenatal I went on to do
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Speaker 2: more certifications, more DVDs. I wrote my first book at
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Speaker 2: that point, and I really realized that as fitness professionals,
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Speaker 2: especially and Haley, I've been listening to your story a
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Speaker 2: little bit about what is it the osteo and necrosis?
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Speaker 4: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, when we have something that's happening in our own
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Speaker 2: bodies that we kind of need to figure out, that's
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Speaker 2: a blessing because when we figure it out, we get
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Speaker 2: to go share it with all the people that are
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Speaker 2: experiencing that. So through pregnancy and then new motherhood, I
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Speaker 2: realized like, oh my gosh, I have all this information
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Speaker 2: that I can share with mommies everywhere. And so again
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Speaker 2: that led to the first book, which is Your Strong
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Speaker 2: Sexy Pregnancy. I looked over because it's over here and
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Speaker 2: then and then fast forward. I'm now a woman of
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Speaker 2: a certain age, and as I started to get into perimenopause,
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Speaker 2: I realized, like, hey, kind of the same thing. I
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Speaker 2: couldn't find all the information that I needed about how
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Speaker 2: do I navigate these changes in my own body. So
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Speaker 2: I got really deep into that study and I went
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Speaker 2: on to write my second book, Total Body Beautiful, with
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Speaker 2: two amazing trainers, Andrea Orbeck, she's celebrity trainer all the
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Speaker 2: Things in LA and my friend Nicole Stewart, who is
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Speaker 2: celebrity Pilate's instructor. We used to share a lot of
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Speaker 2: clients when I was living in Los Angeles, and we
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Speaker 2: came together during the pandemic and we gathered all of
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Speaker 2: this information because we're like, women are suffering alone in
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Speaker 2: their houses right now. This is terrible, and so we
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Speaker 2: wanted to bring that from our hearts. And so what
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Speaker 2: I've realized now is my passion is really for helping
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Speaker 2: women through life's transitions. So whether it's you know, having
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Speaker 2: a baby, working with that new body that you have
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Speaker 2: after you've had a baby, perimenopause, menopause beyond, Like, I'm
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Speaker 2: here to give you whatever it is that you need,
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Speaker 2: whether it's strength or peace or simply enjoying a deep breath.
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Speaker 2: I have amassed this toolbox and it is my joy
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Speaker 2: to share it.
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Speaker 3: And you're finishing your PhD in exercise science.
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Speaker 4: Is that correct?
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Speaker 2: Yes? So as the perimenopausal journey kind of began, I
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Speaker 2: realized I always want I just have to tell you,
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Speaker 2: I've always wanted to be doctor DESI like, it's just
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Speaker 2: a thing.
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Speaker 4: It has a bring to it that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like doctor, So exactly, I went back to school.
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Speaker 2: I'm at Concordia Saint Paul University now and I'm at
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Speaker 2: the tail end of my PhD in kinesiology. My dissertation.
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Speaker 2: I've written the first three chapters and the actual experiment
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Speaker 2: started yesterday, so Prodigall was really excited. Yes, yes, I'm
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Speaker 2: doing my dissertation on working with yoga and menopausal education
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Speaker 2: as an intervention to help women navigate the changes that
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Speaker 2: happen during menopause. So what I found is that in
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Speaker 2: the research, yoga can help with the transition for sure,
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Speaker 2: but what I didn't know is that education can help.
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Speaker 2: So if a woman is educated about the changes that
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Speaker 2: are happening in her body during this time, she actually
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Speaker 2: perceives it as being a smoother ride. So I'm like, well,
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Speaker 2: as an American, you know, I've got this idea of fusion,
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Speaker 2: and let's like bring it all together because it's kind
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Speaker 2: of what we do right, and how can we bring
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Speaker 2: yoga and menopausal education together. So within the practice, I'm
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Speaker 2: teaching them about you know, like the Big Three. What's
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Speaker 2: the Big three vasomotor symptoms, sleep disturbances, way gain belly fat,
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Speaker 2: and I'm teaching them how to work with their bodies
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Speaker 2: during these changes. So I'm just I'm a big science
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Speaker 2: nerd and I love it all, and again it's my
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Speaker 2: joy to share.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to say, this is what I'm most impressed
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Speaker 1: with right off the bat and the PhD, all of
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Speaker 1: those things are incredible, but it's your like the energy
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Speaker 1: that you send out. And this is how I feel
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Speaker 1: with one of my dear clients, who is you know,
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Speaker 1: she goes to India every year and studies yoga and
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Speaker 1: the practice, and I'm like, I really need to like
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Speaker 1: get into this zone because I'm such the opposite and
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Speaker 1: I'm just like.
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Speaker 4: Go go go, go, go go go, and never.
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Speaker 1: Can find that and it's hard for me to connect
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Speaker 1: where you just like you feel it from it from you,
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Speaker 1: like it's just there.
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Speaker 3: So it's so true, even just through video, not even
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Speaker 3: in person, you definitely can feel out.
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Speaker 2: Haley's right, Thank you so much, And I've I've been
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Speaker 2: watching your show and learning a little bit about each
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Speaker 2: of you. And then also I think we all share
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Speaker 2: a love of Stacy Simms in her work and how
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Speaker 2: she talks about polarized training, and you know, on the
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Speaker 2: one end, we've got like sprints and let's go lift heavy,
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Speaker 2: and on the other end, like how can we get
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Speaker 2: into that parasympathetic nervous system response and let your body
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Speaker 2: just kind of So I live more at this end
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Speaker 2: in terms of what I teach, but I live here
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Speaker 2: in my personal life as well, so I get it.
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Speaker 2: And balancing those scales as a daily.
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Speaker 3: Task, yes, I feel like I'm I'm hoping to get
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Speaker 3: balance in my life sometime soon. It's not happening, but
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Speaker 3: I'm the same way. I need to do yoga as
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Speaker 3: well and do something softer and quieter to connect with
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Speaker 3: my mind and body, for sure. But what do you
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Speaker 3: feel like? Are like the three main things that people
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Speaker 3: going through perimenopause menopause.
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Speaker 2: Get from yoga. So yoga has so many beautiful benefits
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Speaker 2: and it can really help us to connect to our
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Speaker 2: body and our spirit. But the first thing I'd say
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Speaker 2: right off the bat is simply learning how to breathe correctly.
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Speaker 2: I meet so many people that don't know how to breathe.
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Speaker 2: And when I say inhale, I see women especially suck
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Speaker 2: in and I'm you know I'm gen X, and so
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Speaker 2: I remember like the beautiful models that would suck it
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Speaker 2: in as tight as possible, and some of them, we
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Speaker 2: even saw them have like ribs removed, and that's literally
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Speaker 2: like taking away the life force. And so if I
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Speaker 2: can encourage you to inhale and expand your belly like
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Speaker 2: a balloon and imagine prama and oxygen just moving to
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Speaker 2: your cells so that you feel stronger, I feel like
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Speaker 2: that's a really, really good place to start. The second
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Speaker 2: thing that I like to move on to is the
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Speaker 2: power of intention. And before you wake up in the
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Speaker 2: morning or before you're totally wakeful and reach for that
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Speaker 2: cell phone and start scrolling and letting the outside world in,
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Speaker 2: just keep your eyes closed and ask like, show me,
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Speaker 2: show me, show me, reveal to me what is my
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Speaker 2: highest good today, and let that become the seed of
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Speaker 2: the intention that guides you through the whole day. So
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Speaker 2: when the outside world comes in fast and furious as
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Speaker 2: it will, I mean like we're not for nothing. We're
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Speaker 2: about to go into the elections, and the life's a
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Speaker 2: little crazy and chaotic right now. So how do you
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Speaker 2: connect to your own inner voice and your inner dream
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Speaker 2: Because we all have gifts, and it's hard to cultivate
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Speaker 2: the gifts and to follow the path if everything around
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Speaker 2: us is so noisy, you know. So that would be
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Speaker 2: step two. We've got breath, we've got intention, and now
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Speaker 2: we have like actual movement. Let's move a little bit,
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Speaker 2: and let's allow this practice to become a moving meditation.
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Speaker 2: When I see people lifting really really heavy in the gym,
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Speaker 2: I see the beauty in it, and I'm like, oh
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Speaker 2: my gosh, that's a form of moving meditation. And we
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Speaker 2: can do the same thing on our yoga mat. It's
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Speaker 2: a little different in terms of resistance. You know, you're
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Speaker 2: using the resistance of your own body, but you can
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Speaker 2: start to synchronize the breath and the movement and feel
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Speaker 2: that union. So if I'm inhaling my arms overhead, I
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Speaker 2: fill my lungs, and if I exhale and fold forward,
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Speaker 2: I let it all go. Literally, I let all that
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Speaker 2: stuff go. So those would be really the main three.
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Speaker 2: And also just as a sort of an umbrella for everything.
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Speaker 2: Remembering that we are a body mind complex. We're not
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Speaker 2: like two separate things that are running around. Now, whatever
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Speaker 2: is going on up here is going to reflect in
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Speaker 2: the body and vice versa. That's so true.
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Speaker 1: Yes, So I mean everyone is super well, not everyone,
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Speaker 1: but I would say the majority of women that I
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Speaker 1: work with from all over the world. It's like I
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Speaker 1: barely have time for myself when I do, I have
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Speaker 1: nine millionaires to run. But you know, I'm trying to
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Speaker 1: teach them that you deserve thirty minutes to yourself for
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Speaker 1: a movement to help.
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Speaker 4: With these longevity goals and all of that.
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Speaker 1: But the breath work, We've had multiple guests on and
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Speaker 1: it is so often over missed because it's like everyone
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Speaker 1: knows how to breathe, but they don't, and that comes
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Speaker 1: into play. I love you that you say that, because
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Speaker 1: it's a it's a big piece, and I'm not sure
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Speaker 1: most women even think about it outside of maybe you know,
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Speaker 1: like running when you're breathing hard and then you notice
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Speaker 1: your breath and it can.
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Speaker 2: Get a little bit out of sync. Also after things
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Speaker 2: like pregnancy and labor and delivery and Laura, I saw
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Speaker 2: your beautiful baby on social she's gorgeous. Congratulations. So when
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Speaker 2: we breathe, you know, we have the diaphragm that's moving
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Speaker 2: down as we inhale exhaling, it presses everything up. But
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Speaker 2: we have this whole inner cylinder. So there's the diaphragm,
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Speaker 2: there's the pelvic floor in front, there's the transfer subdominus.
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Speaker 2: In back, you have the multifidai. And when we have
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Speaker 2: a baby, sometimes right afterwards, when we're recovering, things are
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Speaker 2: just kind of funky and out of sink. And so
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Speaker 2: maybe the pelp like floors and functioning the way that
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Speaker 2: it used to. And we need to learn how to
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Speaker 2: breathe in such a way that everything moves down and
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Speaker 2: that inhalation and expands, and everything as you exhale moves
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Speaker 2: up and contracts. And I spend a lot of time
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Speaker 2: just teaching that, envisioning that cylinder moving up and down
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Speaker 2: and in and out.
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Speaker 3: I feel like I need a breathing lesson from you,
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Speaker 3: but I feel like we just we all just got
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Speaker 3: a mini little breathing lesson. I definitely forget about breathing
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Speaker 3: in and filling.
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Speaker 4: Up your lungs.
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Speaker 3: But I remember someone, a woman that is also a
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Speaker 3: yoga teacher, which is ironic. She said to me twenty
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Speaker 3: years ago, and I never forgot this. I could tell
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Speaker 3: she was really stressed and frazzled, and she set her
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Speaker 3: purse down and she took three really deep breasts and
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Speaker 3: she picked her purse back up, and it was like, Okay,
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Speaker 3: I'll talk to you later, I'll see you later. And
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Speaker 3: she's like, don't ever forget three deep breasts will change
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Speaker 3: your life.
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Speaker 4: And when she said it, I was like, okay.
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Speaker 3: But then I could visually see her kind of calm
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Speaker 3: down from taking those three deep breasts.
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Speaker 5: And I've never forgotten it.
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Speaker 3: And sometimes when I'm racing around in my car doing something,
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Speaker 3: I'll like stop and take three deep breasts and it
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Speaker 3: does make you feel better, absolutely.
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Speaker 2: And we have different ways of breathing for all of
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Speaker 2: the activities in life. You know, we have a certain
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Speaker 2: way that we breathe when we train. If you're at
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Speaker 2: the top of a roller coaster, it might be like
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Speaker 2: third day of vacation, you forgot the cell phone. So
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Speaker 2: that's kind of my goal. I try to get people
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Speaker 2: towards the latter.
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Speaker 1: So what does your everyday look like for work? And
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Speaker 1: just like what you're rich is, what does a typical
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Speaker 1: day look like for you?
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Speaker 2: I have two kids. I have a sixteen year old
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Speaker 2: who's about to get his driver's license, so I'm constantly
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Speaker 2: pressing the imaginary break but you know he's getting there.
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Speaker 2: And I have a ten year old So I wake
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Speaker 2: up in the morning and we live in Hawaii close
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Speaker 2: to the beach. I go to the ocean first thing
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Speaker 2: with my dog, and I set my attentions and I
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Speaker 2: connect to mother Nature into all that is. I take
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Speaker 2: my kids to school, I come back to the yoga studio,
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Speaker 2: I teach online classes and still work with private clients,
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Speaker 2: and then I go on to do all of my
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Speaker 2: PhD work and then it's time to go get the
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Speaker 2: kids and I roll into the evening and if there's
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Speaker 2: still more work, I do it with them at the
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Speaker 2: table because we're all students together. And I'm very lucky
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Speaker 2: that I have a very supportive husband and we've been
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Speaker 2: married for twenty one years and he knows what's important
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Speaker 2: to me and he honors that. So I couldn't ask
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Speaker 2: for more. Wow.
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Speaker 1: So then do you miss La because you have like
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Speaker 1: those are the polar opposites almost.
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Speaker 2: Literally right, Yes, So I miss my people in LA.
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Speaker 2: And I used to go to Golds Gym Venice and
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Speaker 2: that was super super fun. For those of you who
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Speaker 2: have never been there, it's you know, Arnold's just walking
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Speaker 2: by and Lou and you're like, oh, hey, good morning, Arnold.
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Speaker 2: So so that part, you know, was amazing. But I
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Speaker 2: was there for twenty years and I feel like that
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Speaker 2: chapter is complete and we still go back and visit,
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Speaker 2: and I still work with my niche is pregnant actresses,
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Speaker 2: and because of technology, I still am able to do
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Speaker 2: that via zoom and then when I go to LA
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Speaker 2: I go and have that in person contact.
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Speaker 3: I mean, can you tell us who you've worked with
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Speaker 3: or is it like nda private?
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Speaker 2: Here? Kate Hudson wrote the forward for this book, so
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Speaker 2: I can certainly tell you Kate Hudson, and I have
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Speaker 2: quotes in there from Ashley Tisdale. And I've had the
21:12
Speaker 2: great privilege of working with people who have a very
21:14
Speaker 2: large sphere of influence. But just because you might touch
21:19
Speaker 2: a lot of people doesn't mean that we don't all
21:22
Speaker 2: touch people. We all have a sphere of influence. And
21:25
Speaker 2: I'm sure when women see both of you and you're
21:28
Speaker 2: like killing it and thriving and you have a show
21:31
Speaker 2: and your training and a mom and like all the things,
21:33
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, how does she do it? And then
21:38
Speaker 2: your influence comes through and it's a gift. So is
21:41
Speaker 2: it fun and cool with celebrities, absolutely for sure, but
21:47
Speaker 2: working with every mom to me is really like, oh
21:50
Speaker 2: she can also get the word out and she can
21:52
Speaker 2: help lift other women as well.
21:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what does he mind body You teach group
22:02
Speaker 3: classes on that and.
22:05
Speaker 4: Do one on one.
22:06
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So let me flip it just a little.
22:08
Speaker 2: It's Dozzy body minds.
22:09
Speaker 5: Oh my man, that's my mom brain. That's my mom brain.
22:16
Speaker 2: It's all good. I get it. And so I just
22:20
Speaker 2: applied for the trademark. I'll just share this with you
22:23
Speaker 2: for the body Mind workout, And the idea is that
22:27
Speaker 2: you simply go onto the platform. You go into my
22:30
Speaker 2: website and there's a very modest payment schedule, and you
22:36
Speaker 2: choose how you want to feel that day, So let's
22:39
Speaker 2: say strong. Then you click on strong, and there's a
22:43
Speaker 2: practice that begins with an intention meditation, We warm up
22:47
Speaker 2: with yoga, we move into a little bit of fitness,
22:50
Speaker 2: and so it's this idea of just having twenty minutes
22:53
Speaker 2: of movement that gives you, that gives you both, that
22:56
Speaker 2: gives you the ability to connect and to go within
23:00
Speaker 2: and also to move a little bit right and to
23:02
Speaker 2: connect this whole body mind thing. Because we're all walking
23:06
Speaker 2: around like separate silos, like here's my thoughts and there's
23:08
Speaker 2: my body. No, no, let's come back.
23:14
Speaker 4: Do you ever get like do you ever lose it?
23:18
Speaker 3: I know I was.
23:18
Speaker 5: Thinking the same thing. Does she ever just fly off
23:21
Speaker 5: the handle?
23:22
Speaker 1: I like dig in your vibe and like this, just
23:26
Speaker 1: like the vibe and the energy. It's it's something that
23:30
Speaker 1: that I feel like I could work on. And I'm
23:33
Speaker 1: pretty chill too, like I don't really have these like extremes,
23:38
Speaker 1: But how would you recommend someone like me that I'm
23:43
Speaker 1: just you know, I'm a little add It's really hard
23:46
Speaker 1: for me. Like anytime I've gone to a yoga class,
23:49
Speaker 1: it almost makes me uncomfortable because when I have to
23:52
Speaker 1: quiet down, I'm like, am I supposed to be thinking
23:55
Speaker 1: something or saying something? Or I almost put too much
23:59
Speaker 1: into it because I just don't know how And have
24:02
Speaker 1: you experienced that where some people like it's hard to
24:05
Speaker 1: kind of break into that and let and let that
24:10
Speaker 1: feeling come in and that practice.
24:14
Speaker 2: So many many years ago in La I was working
24:17
Speaker 2: with this beautiful woman, Patricia Jones, and she has a
24:20
Speaker 2: foundation called ps I Love You, and she takes yoga
24:23
Speaker 2: into at risk schools and I was teaching yoga in
24:26
Speaker 2: Watts and there was this wonderful young boy and he
24:30
Speaker 2: came up to me afterwards and he's like, Missus Bartlett,
24:33
Speaker 2: which threw me off. I'm like, where's missus Bartlett, where's
24:37
Speaker 2: my mother in law? But he said, Missus Bartlett, when
24:40
Speaker 2: I close my eyes, I only see black. And so
24:43
Speaker 2: I was talking to his teacher and he was medicated
24:50
Speaker 2: for ADHD and it caused some neurodivergence when he closed
24:55
Speaker 2: his eyes. So I said, it's a good open your eyes.
24:58
Speaker 2: And we found they had like the old popcorn ceiling
25:02
Speaker 2: kind of thing. We found all the little spots on
25:04
Speaker 2: the ceiling, and I said, all I want you to
25:06
Speaker 2: do is count the spots. And every time you count,
25:09
Speaker 2: one breathe one breath, one spot. And that's what we
25:13
Speaker 2: do in yoga. We give the mind something to chew on,
25:17
Speaker 2: you know, we call it the monkey mind. Give the
25:18
Speaker 2: monkey a banana. So whether it's mantra a word like strength, strength,
25:27
Speaker 2: and just let that roll over and over through the
25:29
Speaker 2: wheels of your mind, or if we focus more on
25:32
Speaker 2: the breadth that day, we give you something to do.
25:35
Speaker 2: Because if I said, hey, Haley, I want you to
25:36
Speaker 2: sit there and do nothing and think about nothing for
25:39
Speaker 2: ten minutes. Do you know how hard that is?
25:42
Speaker 4: Oh, I'd be chomping at the bit in like ten seconds.
25:45
Speaker 2: No. No, I would give you. I would give you
25:48
Speaker 2: something to focus on, and I think for you, because
25:51
Speaker 2: you're you're such an accomplished athlete. I would encourage you
25:56
Speaker 2: to really think about that inner cylinder and when you inhale,
26:00
Speaker 2: like feeling the diaphragm and the pelvic floor moved down
26:03
Speaker 2: when you exhale, allowing it all to move up.
26:06
Speaker 4: And then when you.
26:07
Speaker 2: Kind of get like bored with that, then we could
26:09
Speaker 2: move to the transverse of Dominus and the multividi and
26:12
Speaker 2: feel that. But I would guide you, and I would
26:15
Speaker 2: talk to you the whole time, because if I just
26:17
Speaker 2: left you on your own, I know that your mind
26:19
Speaker 2: would probably take you in a couple different directions. Not
26:23
Speaker 2: just you, me too, everybody, because it's the nature of
26:26
Speaker 2: the mind. The mind is like the computer with all
26:28
Speaker 2: the tabs open and they're like, ooh, this one, this one,
26:31
Speaker 2: this one. So in yoga, we just give you one
26:33
Speaker 2: thing to focus on and it kind of keeps the
26:36
Speaker 2: mind busy so the body can decompress.
26:40
Speaker 1: Okay, I have a really tough question that might not
26:43
Speaker 1: be able to be I'm going to ask it anyways,
26:47
Speaker 1: So can this help with someone with maybe like OCD
26:53
Speaker 1: that gets something in their head and it's just like
26:55
Speaker 1: their mind can't like it just keeps reviewing oh over
27:00
Speaker 1: and over again, say say say a word or something,
27:03
Speaker 1: but it's not positive. Can can yogat like help with
27:08
Speaker 1: that this kind of therapy or is that a totally
27:12
Speaker 1: different conversation.
27:14
Speaker 2: It's a little bit out of my scope because I
27:16
Speaker 2: don't work as much with with folks who have been
27:19
Speaker 2: diagnosed with OCD, and or at least they don't come
27:22
Speaker 2: to me revealing that. But what my understanding is is
27:26
Speaker 2: that there's there's a loop that's kind of like an
27:31
Speaker 2: old fashioned record, and you get stuck. The needle gets
27:33
Speaker 2: stuck in the groove, and you got to you got
27:36
Speaker 2: to move that needle, right. And so with that kind
27:38
Speaker 2: of person, maybe I'm not going to go into like
27:41
Speaker 2: repetitive mantra because my goodness that they're already stuck in
27:45
Speaker 2: that groove. With that person, I'm going to need them
27:48
Speaker 2: to move and we're going to have to move through
27:50
Speaker 2: some salutations and just kind of like, get the body
27:55
Speaker 2: to move so that the mind can move, because again
27:57
Speaker 2: they're interconnected. So if my mind is going, my body's
28:03
Speaker 2: probably going, it's constricting. So let's expand the body and
28:09
Speaker 2: let that mind start to expand as well.
28:13
Speaker 4: So that goes into everything. One body, one mind.
28:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I love that doing so much.
28:23
Speaker 2: And you influence the people around you. You know, they
28:25
Speaker 2: can feel your vibe and when you're around someone who
28:28
Speaker 2: has taken the time to lift their vibration and set
28:31
Speaker 2: a clear intention, then you feel it. You're like, whoah,
28:35
Speaker 2: I like this and you'll have a little lift. So
28:38
Speaker 2: you get to be that for the people around you.
28:42
Speaker 4: That's great.
28:42
Speaker 1: So every morning you wake up because I really want
28:45
Speaker 1: to add something in and I want to do something
28:47
Speaker 1: that's realistic, and this is you know, this is how
28:50
Speaker 1: I work with with the women that I work with,
28:54
Speaker 1: is I'm like, for me, I'm like, okay, going into
28:56
Speaker 1: an hour meditation session makes me want to like break
29:01
Speaker 1: out in hives because I'm just like, oh that hour,
29:03
Speaker 1: I could be doing this and this, but I need
29:05
Speaker 1: something that I can break it down and focus on
29:08
Speaker 1: one thing.
29:08
Speaker 4: So if I had one thing to focus on and
29:11
Speaker 4: I want it to be intention. So I wake up in.
29:15
Speaker 1: The morning, I have a few minutes to myself and
29:18
Speaker 1: I just really like, have that set that intention for
29:22
Speaker 1: what I'm looking for for that day or let it
29:25
Speaker 1: come to me.
29:26
Speaker 2: Yes. So there's a there's a book that came out,
29:30
Speaker 2: I don't know thirty four years ago, Women Who Run
29:33
Speaker 2: with Wolves by Clarissa Pincola Estes, And she's originally from
29:38
Speaker 2: Chicago as well, and the book is in English, but
29:41
Speaker 2: she's bilingual. And I heard her say one day that
29:44
Speaker 2: her morning prayer is in signame and that word just
29:48
Speaker 2: means show me, show me, show me, like reveal to me,
29:51
Speaker 2: Reveal to me what it is that I'm supposed to
29:54
Speaker 2: do today, how I can be of service. So if
29:56
Speaker 2: that resonates with you, you can certainly do that. I'llternatively if
30:01
Speaker 2: closing your eyes and getting quiet or staying quiet first
30:04
Speaker 2: thing is like, oh, I totally get it. You can
30:08
Speaker 2: go outside. I know it can be a little chilly
30:10
Speaker 2: in Colorado, but if you can just go outside for
30:14
Speaker 2: a moment and find find an external queue in nature
30:19
Speaker 2: and breathe and remember like, oh, yeah, I am that
30:23
Speaker 2: I'm part of nature. I don't have to reconnect with
30:26
Speaker 2: nature that I am that and how does that show up?
30:30
Speaker 2: And what is my nature? And how can I show up?
30:33
Speaker 2: And for you you know, I know we're just meeting,
30:36
Speaker 2: but I can see and feel your vibe of strength
30:39
Speaker 2: and service and so to just get real clear about
30:43
Speaker 2: you know, how does that come through today?
30:46
Speaker 1: I really like that because it's a different way like
30:50
Speaker 1: and I don't like this is not my area. So
30:53
Speaker 1: maybe you're like Heley, that's actually not it at all,
30:56
Speaker 1: But it seems like there's that that show me, you know,
30:59
Speaker 1: show me what to do, or like, let me find
31:02
Speaker 1: that could be found with someone that might like pray
31:06
Speaker 1: every day or do you know, find that you know,
31:12
Speaker 1: their own version of prayer. Maybe I don't know how
31:15
Speaker 1: to articulate it. But we're all seeking for something that
31:20
Speaker 1: we focus on for that intention.
31:24
Speaker 2: For the day one hundred percent. And whether you are
31:28
Speaker 2: religious and you call it God or call it all
31:31
Speaker 2: that is or Mother nature, or I have a friend
31:33
Speaker 2: who says life, it becomes a body prayer. For sure.
31:39
Speaker 3: I have to do this too, because I have felt
31:42
Speaker 3: extremely out of balance sense having a baby, and my
31:48
Speaker 3: morning's always started completely different, and for the last year
31:52
Speaker 3: I felt like it is hitting the ground running and
31:55
Speaker 3: not having a second And I do feel like that's
31:58
Speaker 3: one of the things that I think I'm longing for
32:03
Speaker 3: or have been missing, because when you've been talking, I'm like,
32:06
Speaker 3: I think that's part of why I feel.
32:09
Speaker 4: Out of WACKI like out of balance.
32:12
Speaker 3: It's just not having that moment, even if it is
32:14
Speaker 3: three minutes, because I'm like Kaylee, even a thirty minute meditation,
32:19
Speaker 3: it's like the to do list starts going rambling. I'm
32:22
Speaker 3: four minutes and I'm getting anxiety.
32:25
Speaker 2: I got to stop.
32:26
Speaker 3: So I think that resonates with me too, like just
32:30
Speaker 3: taking a moment, setting an intention, having a word.
32:36
Speaker 2: It's very much quality over quantity, and if you only
32:39
Speaker 2: have a couple of minutes, it's totally fine. And you
32:42
Speaker 2: can also meditate with your baby girl on you, and
32:46
Speaker 2: you can share the rhythm of your breath and she
32:48
Speaker 2: will begin to mirror your breathing pattern. You are modeling
32:52
Speaker 2: that for her, so that can be a really sweet
32:55
Speaker 2: form of connection.
32:58
Speaker 4: I love that.
32:59
Speaker 3: Do you ever recommend to your clients doing it taking
33:03
Speaker 3: a moment, like even just twice a day, like in
33:06
Speaker 3: the morning, but in that afternoon period where things feel
33:11
Speaker 3: like they're getting busy or crazy.
33:14
Speaker 2: Again, or you've had a heavy day, do.
33:17
Speaker 3: You just take a moment and kind of try to recenter.
33:22
Speaker 2: Of course, so we all have if you've gone into
33:26
Speaker 2: the study of chronotypes and how there's like early birds
33:30
Speaker 2: and then the folks that like to wake up later,
33:32
Speaker 2: and we all have different inner rhythms. So for me
33:35
Speaker 2: it's the first thing in the morning, it's ritual, right,
33:37
Speaker 2: but for others it might be a little bit later
33:39
Speaker 2: in the day. And to have a second window to
33:42
Speaker 2: do it, oh my gosh, y has of course. And
33:45
Speaker 2: what I do is I give myself an external cueue
33:47
Speaker 2: throughout the day to remember the word, the thought, the intention.
33:52
Speaker 2: For me specifically, because I live in our modern world
33:55
Speaker 2: with technology, it's the cell phone. If I hear the
33:58
Speaker 2: ding of the text, it reminds me.
34:04
Speaker 4: So have you do your children and practice this?
34:09
Speaker 1: And at what age would you would you teach them
34:14
Speaker 1: in utero?
34:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, during pregnancy there was so much meditation, but I
34:21
Speaker 2: was literally between the yoga studio meditating and two blocks
34:25
Speaker 2: away at golds gym throwing tires. So I love the
34:29
Speaker 2: balance of both. And my babies grew up on my
34:34
Speaker 2: yoga mat, you know, and my older son. Now he's
34:37
Speaker 2: an athlete. He's more into baseball and wrestling, but he
34:41
Speaker 2: recently had a coach tell him that his hamstrings were
34:44
Speaker 2: a little bit tight and he should practice some yoga.
34:47
Speaker 2: So he's like, hey, Mom.
34:52
Speaker 1: I love that when we can be of benefit to
34:55
Speaker 1: you know, outside of just mom. Like when my kids
34:58
Speaker 1: started getting into strength training and they wanted to know
35:02
Speaker 1: what to do, and they didn't listen to me, but
35:04
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden one day they were like,
35:06
Speaker 1: I think my mom knows.
35:07
Speaker 2: We're just talking right exactly and so so validating that.
35:13
Speaker 2: It's so funny because like with us and in my career,
35:17
Speaker 2: I don't feel the need to impress or name drop,
35:20
Speaker 2: Like if you ask me, I'll tell you openly. But
35:24
Speaker 2: it isn't like, oh, I worked with this person and
35:26
Speaker 2: that person, And I find myself with my son getting
35:29
Speaker 2: a little macho and I'm like, well, I worked with
35:31
Speaker 2: this NBA player and that boxer. I'm like proving myself
35:35
Speaker 2: to a sixteen year old.
35:36
Speaker 4: Oh stop, Well they're the harder ones to please.
35:44
Speaker 2: Like, hopefully you're impressed now.
35:48
Speaker 1: So your Total Body Beautiful book is your latest book?
35:51
Speaker 4: Yes, and talk to us about that.
35:56
Speaker 2: So perimenopause can begin as early as thirty five years old,
36:00
Speaker 2: and there can be up to I think now they're
36:02
Speaker 2: saying like seventy five different manifestations, different symptoms that we
36:07
Speaker 2: can face. And what I've seen with some of the
36:11
Speaker 2: some of the different books is it's either like train, Train, Train,
36:15
Speaker 2: or let's talk about the emotional body. And so we
36:18
Speaker 2: really wanted to bring this together. So we talk about
36:22
Speaker 2: mental health, emotional health, and of course physical health. And
36:26
Speaker 2: I think it can get really overwhelming for folks when
36:28
Speaker 2: you talk about, you know, what is fitness and then
36:31
Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, well we've got cardiovascular fitness and muscular
36:34
Speaker 2: strength and muscular endurance and flexibility, and I lost them
36:38
Speaker 2: at like number two, right. So what I did was
36:42
Speaker 2: I got together with two amazing instructors who are experts
36:47
Speaker 2: in their own fields and strength training and pilates, and
36:50
Speaker 2: then I'm yoga and we each root to our strengths
36:54
Speaker 2: and we have workouts where you combine those different formats
36:58
Speaker 2: and others where it's just the end visual workout. But
37:02
Speaker 2: again this is done with the intention of like let
37:05
Speaker 2: us lift you. We came together as women lifting one another,
37:10
Speaker 2: and we want to lift you and help you through
37:12
Speaker 2: this period because this period is gnarly, you know, and
37:17
Speaker 2: we don't talk about it, and we're starting to, Thank goodness,
37:20
Speaker 2: the conversation is open. But like the more the merrier. Wow.
37:24
Speaker 4: And when did this book come out?
37:27
Speaker 2: This book came out twenty twenty two, but we wrote
37:30
Speaker 2: it in twenty twenty so obviously we had a lot
37:33
Speaker 2: of time on our hands to collaborate.
37:36
Speaker 1: To us, that's great. I'm looking forward to reading it.
37:41
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a beautiful it is. I think when
37:44
Speaker 1: we bring it and we tie it all all together,
37:47
Speaker 1: just from what I hear, it's like so confusing for
37:51
Speaker 1: one of the right, how many of this? And should
37:53
Speaker 1: I do? And how many of these? And I'm like
37:55
Speaker 1: it really like, let's not over complicate it. Yes, move
37:59
Speaker 1: your body, Yes, name and have you lifting have some
38:02
Speaker 1: of those polarizing where you but everything has a place
38:06
Speaker 1: that can fit in, especially if it's if it's special
38:09
Speaker 1: to you and it's important to you. Nobody gets to
38:12
Speaker 1: say that that gets pushed out for something else exactly.
38:17
Speaker 2: And I had a trainer back when I was in
38:20
Speaker 2: la at Golds that I was working with. I was
38:22
Speaker 2: her client, Joe Ann Lee and I heard someone ask
38:26
Speaker 2: her one day. They said, hey, Joe, what's the best
38:29
Speaker 2: form of exercise that there is? And she turned around
38:32
Speaker 2: and without missing a beat, she said the kind that
38:34
Speaker 2: you will do and she walked away, and I was like,
38:39
Speaker 2: drop the wisdom.
38:40
Speaker 5: I love it, Mike drops done.
38:44
Speaker 3: One thing I loved that you said at the beginning
38:47
Speaker 3: was information and educating women going through this time in
38:52
Speaker 3: our lives makes it a smoother experience. And I think
38:57
Speaker 3: that that's truly one of the things that Haley and
38:59
Speaker 3: I are trying to help is giving out information because
39:04
Speaker 3: even for me, just learning so much from all of
39:07
Speaker 3: these great experts we have on it does seem a
39:10
Speaker 3: little bit less daunting or overwhelming. If you have the
39:15
Speaker 3: knowledge and education just to go through it, it does.
39:21
Speaker 4: Make it such a smoother experience.
39:23
Speaker 2: I think I love that you said that. Yeah, I'll
39:26
Speaker 2: tell you a super quick story. So my sixteen year
39:29
Speaker 2: old has sex. Said they had two days of sex, said,
39:32
Speaker 2: one day was for the boys, one day was for
39:34
Speaker 2: the girls, but they each attended the opposite sex information course.
39:39
Speaker 2: And he was telling me that the day that it
39:43
Speaker 2: was dedicated to the girls, the instructor said, to the girls,
39:47
Speaker 2: what's menopause, Can anyone define it? Silence? My son raised
39:53
Speaker 2: his hand. He's like, do you mean perimenopause or actual menopause,
39:58
Speaker 2: which is the twelvemonth day after you haven't had a cycle.
40:02
Speaker 2: I was like, yes, this is.
40:04
Speaker 4: A that is a huge mom when Wow, see that
40:12
Speaker 4: they're learning, they're listening.
40:14
Speaker 2: He helped me prepare for my oral defense for my
40:17
Speaker 2: dissertations dissertation thesis, and so he knows all that information
40:22
Speaker 2: somewhere in his brain.
40:24
Speaker 4: He's going to be a good husband.
40:26
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yes, Amen, Oh.
40:29
Speaker 5: Michael, I love that.
40:30
Speaker 1: I'm super excited to read that book and to recommend
40:32
Speaker 1: that book sounds incredible. With these different I love having
40:38
Speaker 1: different experts in the exercise arena. I think there's room
40:42
Speaker 1: for everyone, and they're all so unique and play well
40:47
Speaker 1: in balance with each other and what we desire and
40:51
Speaker 1: what we like to do and what our souls need
40:54
Speaker 1: as long as well as our bodies. So fascinating. In
41:00
Speaker 1: Poe Dosi, it's so nice to meet you. I really
41:02
Speaker 1: wish I was meeting you in person.
41:04
Speaker 2: Me too. Likewise likewise, and of course if you're in Hawaii,
41:08
Speaker 2: come out over. But I go to the mainland very
41:11
Speaker 2: often and it's technology is a gift, and I'm so
41:15
Speaker 2: happy that we're able to connect this way and to
41:18
Speaker 2: help inspire women around the world. But I also appreciate
41:21
Speaker 2: that in person contact, and if we ever have the opportunity,
41:24
Speaker 2: it'll be my honor to meet you both.
41:28
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41:29
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