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Speaker 1: Peter Krandland live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, great to be back in as straight out
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Speaker 2: and great to have your company. Here's what's coming up
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Speaker 2: on Kredlin.
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Speaker 3: Beijing hits back accusing Australia of hyping up the risk
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Speaker 3: posed by their naval exercises. Surely we can expect more
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Speaker 3: from our timid prime minister. We can and we should,
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Speaker 3: says defends showow Minister Andrew Hasty, who joins me tonight
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Speaker 3: as China crosses yet more red lines in a show
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Speaker 3: of strength. More paid in the polls too for labour,
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Speaker 3: the coalition opening up its lead, goes spitting for labor today.
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Speaker 3: Try to claim they're not worried, but it's a clear trend.
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Speaker 2: Here for well over a year.
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Speaker 3: More analysis on that with Chris Yilman, Plus what on
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Speaker 3: earth is happening when the rssels forced to launch an
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Speaker 3: urgent fundraising appeal to pay for our Ane's At Day
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Speaker 3: commemorative events, and desperate labor MPs, including the Home Affairs
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Speaker 3: Minister Tony Burke, launch a sitting reasship blitz in a
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Speaker 3: cynical election employ but plenty of local mayors not to
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Speaker 3: mention independent MPs are not impressed.
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Speaker 4: Are they desperate? Are they covering something up?
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Speaker 5: Because I can tell you a lot of the things
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Speaker 5: are not adding up.
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Speaker 2: I'll get to that in a moment. Befirst.
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Speaker 3: The presence of Chinese warships off the coast of Sydney
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Speaker 3: in Australia's Exclusive economic zone should be a massive wake
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Speaker 3: up call about the changing dynamics of world power. The
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Speaker 3: Albinezer government insists the Chinese government's our friend, despite the
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Speaker 3: twenty billion dollars worth of trade sanction it imposed on
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Speaker 3: us when we meanly ask for an independent inquiry into
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Speaker 3: the origins of COVID, Despite the Chinese warship deliberately injuring
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Speaker 3: Australian sailors, and despite this latest act of thinly concealed intimidation,
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Speaker 3: and the fact that these warships engaged in a live
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Speaker 3: fire exercise not just once, it seems, but twice, with
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Speaker 3: the bareest warning to aircraft and no notification to the
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Speaker 3: Australian government. All that should be a wake up call
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Speaker 3: about Communist China's determination to throw its weight around throughout
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Speaker 3: our modern existence. Australia's security has arrested on the strength
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Speaker 3: of a benevolent superpower. First it was Britain, and then,
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Speaker 3: of course it's been America. The only time we've been
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Speaker 3: seriously threatened thus far was in nineteen forty two, when
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Speaker 3: a beleagued Britain was unable to project sufficient power into
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Speaker 3: our region. The then Prime Minister John Curtin famously looked
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Speaker 3: to America for help, when now China is projecting power
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Speaker 3: onto our doorstep, quite literally, and we've never been more alone.
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Speaker 3: With a highly transactional US president and the promised Orcust
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Speaker 3: submarines at least a decade away.
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Speaker 2: We need more.
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Speaker 3: Ships and more planes now, with acquisitions drastically accelerated, and
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Speaker 3: we need to end the next zero madness that's threatening
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Speaker 3: to close down our steel and oluminium industries and risk
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Speaker 3: leaving us dependent on imports from China. Now, I know
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Speaker 3: who're on the cusp of an election, and there's lots
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Speaker 3: of other issues to worry about.
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Speaker 2: This is serious.
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Speaker 3: China's been drawing a lot of red lines and then
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Speaker 3: crossing them. The problem for us is that our weak
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Speaker 3: prime minister is letting them get away for it. It's
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Speaker 3: not for nothing that those who know their history often
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Speaker 3: say this has all the portent of the nineteen thirties
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Speaker 3: all over again. Let me tell you the bloke in Canberra, Well,
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Speaker 3: he's clearly more Chamberlain than Churchill. The Prime Minister, as
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Speaker 3: I said, it is on the cusp of calling an election,
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Speaker 3: and it's becoming more and more clear that the longer
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Speaker 3: he's lingering on, the worse it's getting for him and
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Speaker 3: his chances of securing a majority. In the latest Freshwater
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Speaker 3: poll published today in the Australian Financial Review, it's fifty
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Speaker 3: to forty eight to the Coalition. In the Age poll
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Speaker 3: it's also out today, and it's a whole lot worse there,
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Speaker 3: it's a massive fifty five forty five to the Coalition.
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Speaker 3: Now Labour's spinners today we're out labeling the last poll
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Speaker 3: there as a rogue result.
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Speaker 6: Anecdotally, I don't doubt that the Coalition is in front,
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Speaker 6: but it's not in front by those sort of numbers.
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Speaker 7: I think, as they say, that's a rogue pole.
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Speaker 3: Look, while I agree one pole isn't a definitive trend.
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Speaker 3: For well over eighteen month, support has been deserting Labor
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Speaker 3: and there's no doubt the momentums with the Coalition in
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Speaker 3: some seats the result will come down to a mere.
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Speaker 2: Handful of votes.
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Speaker 3: And that's why what Tony Burke is up to matters,
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Speaker 3: because what Labour's trying to do is use the offer
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Speaker 3: of citizenship as a political weapon. Over the past two weeks,
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Speaker 3: Homer First Minister Tony Burke has presided over a mass
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Speaker 3: citizenship cerem is evolving in excess of twelve thousand people.
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Speaker 3: Twelve thousand people in around fourteen days and provided they
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Speaker 3: sign up to the electoral role before the rolls closed,
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Speaker 3: which happens after the ritz are issued, so in practical
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Speaker 3: terms that's usually a week or so after after the
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Speaker 3: Prime Minister calls the election, that all of these new
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Speaker 3: citizens will be eligible to vote. And that's what Tony
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Speaker 3: Burk's hoping for. He's hoping that these migrants will be
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Speaker 3: so grateful for their citizenship that they will vote Labor. Remember,
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Speaker 3: some of the seats in play in the federal election
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Speaker 3: will come down to less than one hundred votes, So
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Speaker 3: a rapid influx of twelve thousand voters depending on where
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Speaker 3: they live, well, that's a big deal politically. Here is
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Speaker 3: the Opposition Home Affairs spokesman James Patterson.
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Speaker 8: It is critically important for our country that the immigration system,
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Speaker 8: that our citizenship processes, and that citizenship ceremonies are not
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Speaker 8: seen to be used for political purposes. Because if the
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Speaker 8: Israelian public believes that a government is using the migration
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Speaker 8: system to try and drive political outcomes in their parts
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Speaker 8: and interests, then that will collapse support for our migration
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Speaker 8: system and further undermine support for our institutions include a.
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Speaker 9: Department of Home Affairs.
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Speaker 8: So this Department of Home Affairs in Secretary Stephanie Foster
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Speaker 8: have serious questions to ask today, to answer today about
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Speaker 8: what they did when Tony Burke made this request all them.
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Speaker 9: Did they push back at.
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Speaker 8: All or did they simply roll over and facilitate what
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Speaker 8: appears to be an industrial scale process to put new
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Speaker 8: citizens on the electoral role in the dying days of
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Speaker 8: a desperate government.
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Speaker 3: And if you don't think Labour's being politically here, then
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Speaker 3: have a closer look at how they're running the ceremonies themselves,
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Speaker 3: like putting their labor candidates on the stage very prominently
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Speaker 3: in front of these new would be voters, and then
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Speaker 3: look at who they are excluding. Here's one such excluded MP,
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Speaker 3: the Fowler Independent Dally.
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Speaker 10: There's nothing mentioned about the Homebush ceremony, Kieran, That's what
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Speaker 10: I'm saying, and to me, this is just I cannot
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Speaker 10: believe it.
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Speaker 4: I'm really shocked. Nothing was mentioned.
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Speaker 5: A lot of things are not adding up, and the
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Speaker 5: things that the Minister have said about me boycotting that
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Speaker 5: is absolutely false and that is a blatant line.
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Speaker 3: When asked about it today, the Prime Minister dismissed Diali's complaint,
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Speaker 3: saying that this event was not in her seat of Fowler,
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Speaker 3: so under the guidelines, she didn't need to be invited.
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Speaker 11: This is a complete non story.
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Speaker 6: This was a big citizenship ceremony in Homebush, which is in.
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Speaker 11: The elector of Reed, nowhere else the elector of Reed,
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Speaker 11: not even next to Fowler. Read is in fact next
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Speaker 11: to my electorate of Grainline.
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Speaker 3: Really so she didn't need to be invited because it
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Speaker 3: wasn't held in Fowler. So why then, as per reports
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Speaker 3: in the papers today, was the labor candidate for Fowler
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Speaker 3: involved Senator Patison Again.
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Speaker 8: The Department of Home Affairs has serious questions to answer
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Speaker 8: about their handling of Tony Burke's express citizenship ceremonies. It's
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Speaker 8: emerged today in media reports in the Daily Telegraph that truly,
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Speaker 8: the Labor candidate for Fowler was invited to participate in
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Speaker 8: these citizenship ceremonies and meet new constituents who be enrolled
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Speaker 8: to before the election, but dially the independent member for
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Speaker 8: Fowler was not invited. Now, there is no good reason
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Speaker 8: why political candidates for one party, but incumbent members of
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Speaker 8: Parliament from the cross bench, should be invited to participate
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Speaker 8: at these citizenship ceremonies.
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Speaker 2: But that's not the worst of it.
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Speaker 3: Last November Labour quietly made some changes to how these
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Speaker 3: citizenship ceremonies were to be run.
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Speaker 2: And here's what's important.
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Speaker 3: They change the rules to now acquire representatives of the
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Speaker 3: Australian Electoral Commission to be present at these events. And
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Speaker 3: why were they there, Well, they're there to and at
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Speaker 3: enrollment forms to vote. That's why to get as many
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Speaker 3: of these new citizens as they can quickly on the
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Speaker 3: electoral roll. Remember what I said a little earlier, there's
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Speaker 3: only around a week after the election is called and
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Speaker 3: the writs are issued for people to sign up. So
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Speaker 3: if you suddenly make twelve thousand migrants new Australian citizens,
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Speaker 3: and you do that and hope they might vote for you, well,
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Speaker 3: you want to get them on the roll as quickly
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Speaker 3: as possible. Now, there's nothing that will stop this government
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Speaker 3: at all to try and hold onto power. There's no
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Speaker 3: smear campaign they won't run, there's no process they won't abuse.
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Speaker 3: And now we can see this even runs to trying
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Speaker 3: to trade Australian citizenship for labor votes. Well, let's go
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Speaker 3: to Canberra. Parliament's not sitting, but the Senate estimates are
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Speaker 3: obviously underway. We'll get the headlines now Skynese political reporter
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Speaker 3: can read them.
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Speaker 9: Good evening.
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Speaker 12: The Coalition is calling for parliaments to come back and
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Speaker 12: pass major healthcare reforms before the election to avoid a
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Speaker 12: many scare style campaign from Labour talking up his eight
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Speaker 12: point five billion dollar bulk billing boost and.
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Speaker 7: Not our.
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Speaker 12: The Coalition will back Labour's news spending, but neither party
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Speaker 12: can say where it will get the money to fund it.
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Speaker 11: What we did was work through at cabinet, through our
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Speaker 11: ERC to make sure that it's stacked up.
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Speaker 7: It's a lot of money, but we've identified, as you.
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Speaker 13: Know, scaling back to the public service that's at a
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Speaker 13: cost of six billion a year.
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Speaker 7: We've well and truly identified the savings.
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Speaker 12: Two new polls are anything but a clean bill of
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Speaker 12: health for the Albanese government. A new Freshwater pole has
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Speaker 12: the government four points behind the Coalition Reserve has it
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Speaker 12: trailing by a whopping ten points. Voters are giving the
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Speaker 12: Prime Minister credit on healthcare, but are losing faith in
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Speaker 12: his handling of other issues, including the cost of living,
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Speaker 12: crime and the economy.
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Speaker 11: You can't gathern with thought bubbles. You have to govern
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Speaker 11: with serious policy and that's what we're delivering.
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Speaker 12: Independent Diarye is accusing Labor of politicizing citizenship ceremonies by
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Speaker 12: failing to personally invite her two large scale events.
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Speaker 1: You were told that you were welcome to attend the
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Speaker 1: Home Bush ceremony.
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Speaker 12: You were welcome, Cameron Reddin's Sky News Canberra, right.
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Speaker 2: As you saw.
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Speaker 3: There are two new polls out today and both smell
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Speaker 3: disaster for Labor. Let's start with the AFR Freshwater poll
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Speaker 3: has the coalition opening up Believe fifty two forty eight
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Speaker 3: over Labor. That's the biggest since last election for that poll.
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Speaker 3: The same poll also found seventy percent of voters almost
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Speaker 3: seventy percent, I think sixty nine or something. We're unlikely
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Speaker 3: to be swayed towards Labor by that recent cut in rates.
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Speaker 2: The only glimmer of hope here for the Prime.
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Speaker 3: Minister his net approval has gone up slightly minus eleven.
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Speaker 2: Now the poll's more disastrous.
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Speaker 3: This one's from Resolve Political Monitor, published of course in
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Speaker 3: the Age and the Cydney Morning Herald.
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Speaker 2: It's a shocker here for Labor.
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Speaker 3: Fifty five forty five to the coalition two party preferred
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Speaker 3: Labour's primary vote. This one crash into a new low
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Speaker 3: of twenty five percent.
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Speaker 2: For more.
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Speaker 3: I'm joined now Bascyoni's contributor Chris Yellman. Chris, great to
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Speaker 3: see you. Let's talk about that poll. How do you
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Speaker 3: see things looking at those numbers, well.
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Speaker 14: Particularly the Resolved one, Peter, if they're on twenty five
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Speaker 14: percent of a primary vote, that is catastrophic. Let's not
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Speaker 14: forget at the last general election they had thirty three
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Speaker 14: percent of the vote, which was an historic low for
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Speaker 14: the Labour Party and they've been trending down for a
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Speaker 14: very long time. But so then has the coalition. Thirty
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Speaker 14: one percent would be bad enough, you know, that's obviously
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Speaker 14: hung parliament territory. Twenty five percent. You'd started talking about
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Speaker 14: Peter Dutton governing his own rights.
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Speaker 9: Certainly that would be the case.
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Speaker 14: So look, you know, there's not saying in politics and
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Speaker 14: in polling, as you know, the trend is your friend.
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Speaker 15: And at the moment, the trend.
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Speaker 14: In all the polls that we can see, and we
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Speaker 14: have to wait for the one election day, but the
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Speaker 14: trend in every single poll is towards Peter Darton and
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Speaker 14: you were beginning to get the feeling that perhaps the
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Speaker 14: swing is on now. The problem for him, of course,
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Speaker 14: is if he gets into a position where he can't
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Speaker 14: quite get there and needs to negotiate with the cross bench,
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Speaker 14: because I think any government that's in minority in the
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Speaker 14: next term is on a hearted nothing.
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Speaker 3: Let's just have a look at the pull out of
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Speaker 3: the topics that are shifting votes in that resolve poll
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Speaker 3: trend and clearly the only one where the government is
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Speaker 3: leading is the one there right at the end, thirty
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Speaker 3: seven to twenty eight against the coalition on healthcare. Well, surprise, surprise,
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Speaker 3: we've got medi Scare two point zero underway.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, and that's why it's happening at the moment, and
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Speaker 14: that's precisely where the Labor Party has gone.
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Speaker 15: In fact, the last.
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Speaker 14: Two elections and clearly sees some profit in doing that. Again,
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Speaker 14: I am a bit disturbed the Coalition immediately signs up
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Speaker 14: for the Labor Party's spending plan because either of them
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Speaker 14: have a plan or how.
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Speaker 15: To pay for it.
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Speaker 14: And we seriously have problems with Australia's debt at the moment,
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Speaker 14: so I don't like to see a bidding war when
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Speaker 14: we have no money but money that we borrow to
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Speaker 14: spend with.
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Speaker 15: However, if you look down that resolve, Paulo.
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Speaker 14: Was going through it this morning. On every matter that counts,
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Speaker 14: and particularly on cost of living, the Coalition is well
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Speaker 14: and truly in front of labor, cost of living, national security,
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Speaker 14: you name it, crime. The Coalition leads the Labor Party
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Speaker 14: on every measure that matters until you get down to
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Speaker 14: welfare and that sort of thing where the Labor Party pulls.
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Speaker 15: Ahead of the Coalition.
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Speaker 14: So all of the trends are trending away from the
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Speaker 14: Labor Party at the moment.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you make the point there about the Coalition matching
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Speaker 3: the funding almost immediately, and look, I have sympathy for
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Speaker 3: Peter Dutton on this front. I don't like it, but
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Speaker 3: I have sympathy because the common refrain from Labor is
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Speaker 3: that when the Coalition was in in twenty thirteen and
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Speaker 3: fourteen they cut funding health funding.
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Speaker 2: Well, in fact they didn't.
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Speaker 3: It was only in year four of the hospital funding
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Speaker 3: agreement they didn't increase it as much as Labor said
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Speaker 3: that would increase it. But in overall terms and year one,
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Speaker 3: year two, year three, year four there was a healthy increase. Now,
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Speaker 3: this is the problem, that's the facts. But if you
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Speaker 3: can't get the facts out in the public domain, and
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Speaker 3: if Labour's core equity is health more so than the Coalition,
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Speaker 3: you're on a hiding to nothing.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, and I do understand it as well.
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Speaker 14: I think one of the most effective campaigns that I
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Speaker 14: have ever seen is the one that Bill Shorten ran
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Speaker 14: against Malcolm Turnbull, where on the morning of the election,
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Speaker 14: I was getting out at Central Station and as i
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Speaker 14: as I left, someone handed me something looked exactly like
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Speaker 14: a Medicare card. You turn it over and said save
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Speaker 14: many Care on the back of it. So from the
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Speaker 14: time it took you to be handed that thing, to
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Speaker 14: look at it and throw it in the bin, you
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Speaker 14: got the message.
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Speaker 15: So it was a really and it was at every.
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Speaker 14: Exit to Central Station there were people from the Union's
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Speaker 14: handing out those cards. And remember on the election night
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Speaker 14: Malcolm Turnbull very much blindsided by the fact that that
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Speaker 14: election campaign with Bill Shorten saying save Medicare for the
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Speaker 14: last couple of weeks bit really hard. So understand where
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Speaker 14: the collation is coming from. I understand why it would
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Speaker 14: want to blanket any of these things to try and
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Speaker 14: cover off what the Labor Party is doing. But I
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Speaker 14: also think that it comes at a great cost for
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Speaker 14: the community in the long run, and I can't say
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Speaker 14: that throwing more and more and more money at these
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Speaker 14: things actually makes them any more effective. I think we've
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Speaker 14: got to look at the government funding in total and
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Speaker 14: ask the question are we getting value for money right
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Speaker 14: across the.
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Speaker 3: Board, particularly when there's so much funding overlap in duplication
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Speaker 3: with the states in this area.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to Ark because we were both there obviously.
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Speaker 3: Last week in London, you had the chance to speak
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Speaker 3: with a new US Secretary of Energy, Chris Wright.
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Speaker 2: Here's a little of what he had to say.
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Speaker 16: NET zero twenty fifty is a sinister ball. It's a
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Speaker 16: terrible work. It's all unachieapably great infractible unions. But the
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Speaker 16: aggressive pursuit of it. And you're sitting in a country
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Speaker 16: that has aggressively pursued this goal has not delivered any benefits,
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Speaker 16: but it's delivered tremendous costs.
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Speaker 3: It was a devastating interview Chris. He said he'd like
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Speaker 3: to see Australia powered by nuclear as well.
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Speaker 2: And you were there in the UK.
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Speaker 3: You can see how fast a labor government there is
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Speaker 3: moving to add more nuclear to their energy mix.
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Speaker 14: Absolutely, and I was talking to the Germans while I
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Speaker 14: was there as well. And don't forget the Germans shut
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Speaker 14: down their nuclear plants while they were trying to do
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Speaker 14: more wind and solar. They have the highest electricity cost
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Speaker 14: in Europe. They're now looking at restarting some of those plants.
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Speaker 14: In the UK, they're going hard to try and get
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Speaker 14: some more nuclear into the system, but they've got a
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Speaker 14: lot of wind and solo shut down their cul fired
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Speaker 14: power plants. What do we know about both their countries, Well,
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Speaker 14: essentially they are industrializing and depowering while they have the
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Speaker 14: highest electricity prices.
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Speaker 15: In the world. These things are linked.
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Speaker 14: I can never get over it when people keep asking
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Speaker 14: the question about what's going wrong on the UK, what's
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Speaker 14: going wrong in Germany. There's one clear answer. Energy is
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Speaker 14: the economy. You start mucking around with that and that's
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Speaker 14: where you end up. And what are we going to
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Speaker 14: see with next zero? Chris Wright is simply speaking the truth.
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Speaker 14: Chris Wright is just simply speaking the truth. Nobody is
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Speaker 14: actually doing these targets. This target is an ez a fast.
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Speaker 14: China is not doing it, Russia is not doing it,
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Speaker 14: India is not doing it. Now the United States is
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Speaker 14: not doing it. So you have to ask the question,
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Speaker 14: what on earth is Australia doing. We are one percent
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Speaker 14: of global emissions, our global emissions. When you look at
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Speaker 14: what's happening with China with thirty three percent of emissions,
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Speaker 14: ours indistinguishable from the X axis on any graph. There
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Speaker 14: is nothing that we can do here which is going
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Speaker 14: to change the climate. We need to look at climate
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Speaker 14: change as a problem and we need to address it
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Speaker 14: as a problem, and we need to think about how
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Speaker 14: we adapt and we would spend billions of dollars on that,
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Speaker 14: but we are going to spend trillions of dollars and
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Speaker 14: turn the lights out on the path that we're on
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Speaker 14: at the moment.
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Speaker 3: I'm all for adaptation, just like every other problem. You
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Speaker 3: have to solve adaptation as opposed to d industrialization, particularly
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Speaker 3: when you look at the warships off our coast from China.
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Speaker 3: You mentioned Germany. Let's go to those elections over the weekend.
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Speaker 3: A massive win there for the Conservatives. The Christian Democrats
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Speaker 3: formerly led poorly in the end, certainly by Angela Merkhall,
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Speaker 3: About thirty percent of the votes gone their way. The
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Speaker 3: far right Alternaty for Germany party the AfD, they've had
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Speaker 3: the biggest gains. They've shot to second place the Social Democrats.
19:30
Speaker 3: So this is the current chancellor owl of Schultz, the
19:34
Speaker 3: worst result in a federal election and the party's largest
19:37
Speaker 3: loss of votes ever compared to previous runouts. This is
19:42
Speaker 3: now a trend. Chris will send it in a number
19:45
Speaker 3: of countries. But I'm not surprised by this result in Germany,
19:48
Speaker 3: particularly on the back of that Merkele migration and how
19:51
Speaker 3: it's played out and energy.
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Speaker 14: To absolutely, but they're just about to make a massive mistake,
19:58
Speaker 14: which is that they refused accept any of the votes
20:01
Speaker 14: at all from AfD. So now the leading party, the Conservatives,
20:06
Speaker 14: are going to have to try and cobble together a coalition.
20:08
Speaker 14: And to do that, what are they going to do.
20:10
Speaker 14: They're probably going to invite back the failed Social Democrats
20:13
Speaker 14: and the Greens into government because they.
20:15
Speaker 15: Will not deal with the AfD.
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Speaker 14: Now, I understand the concerns about the AfD because I've
20:20
Speaker 14: met some of these people and there is a real
20:22
Speaker 14: spectrum there. They go from normal conservative people through to
20:25
Speaker 14: people who are representatives of the far right. So I
20:27
Speaker 14: understand what the concern is in Germany.
20:30
Speaker 15: Particularly with its history.
20:32
Speaker 14: But I tell you what's going to happen if you
20:33
Speaker 14: reinstate in government the people who failed the people last time,
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Speaker 14: the AfD, which doubled its vote at this election from
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Speaker 14: ten percent to twenty percent of the vote, the next election,
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Speaker 14: they'll be in positioned form government themselves. So I think
20:47
Speaker 14: Germany needs to take a long, hard look at itself,
20:49
Speaker 14: and that's got to start with immigration and energy policy.
20:52
Speaker 14: And if the AfD is offering its votes to assist
20:55
Speaker 14: the government and trying to make some moderate change to
20:58
Speaker 14: those things, surely be more sensible to take those that
21:02
Speaker 14: have continue down a path which the German people have
21:04
Speaker 14: said is failing.
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Speaker 3: And that's the point made very eloquently the other day
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Speaker 3: by jdie Vance at the Munich Council.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Chris, great to have you back.
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Speaker 7: All right.
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Speaker 3: Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke you heard me at the
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Speaker 3: top of the show, caused a lot of outrage when
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Speaker 3: it was revealed last week he was hosting a citizenship
21:22
Speaker 3: blists in Western Sydney. More than four five hundred people
21:26
Speaker 3: became citizens in just three days at Sydney's Olympic Park,
21:30
Speaker 3: and now Burke is in hot water over allegations he
21:33
Speaker 3: excluded the Independent MP Died Lee from the ceremony.
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Speaker 1: The Telegraphs reported and what I've been told as well,
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Speaker 1: which is in line with what they've reported, that you
21:44
Speaker 1: were told that you were welcome to attend the Home
21:46
Speaker 1: Bush ceremony.
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Speaker 15: You were welcome to attend. That wasn't said to me.
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Speaker 10: There was nothing mentioned about the Homebush ceremony kan That's
21:56
Speaker 10: what I'm saying, and to me, this is just I
21:59
Speaker 10: cannot believe it.
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Speaker 4: I'm really shocked nothing was mentioned.
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Speaker 17: According to the Citizenship Ceremony Code, organizers must invite all
22:06
Speaker 17: elected officials of the locality at all levels of government.
22:09
Speaker 17: Home Affairs say this only applies to invites for elected
22:13
Speaker 17: representatives of the area in which the ceremony is actually
22:17
Speaker 17: being held despite this to lead. Labour's candidate for Fowler
22:22
Speaker 17: was in attendance at some of these ceremonies and we
22:25
Speaker 17: understand that many residents sworn in, many of them would
22:28
Speaker 17: also live in that electorate.
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Speaker 3: From mortal As, I'm joined out by the Maryor of Fairfield,
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Speaker 3: Frank Carboni, Frank, thanks for your time. This looks like
22:38
Speaker 3: sheer politicing to me.
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Speaker 18: Well, it can't be anything but that. I mean, I
22:43
Speaker 18: can tell you I've been doing citizenship ceremonies for fourteen years.
22:47
Speaker 18: I've probably done more ceremonies than any person in this
22:49
Speaker 18: country simply because of the time that I've been here.
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Speaker 7: And this is quite awkward, I've got to say.
22:55
Speaker 18: When I found out first of all that they were
22:56
Speaker 18: doing these mass ceremonies, I was really surprised, But I
22:59
Speaker 18: was actually even more offended when they said that there
23:02
Speaker 18: was this huge backlock that councils weren't looking after quite
23:06
Speaker 18: simply normal processes that Home Affairs will let a council
23:10
Speaker 18: know if there's a big backlog, and councils can quite
23:12
Speaker 18: simply ramp up the amount of citizenships cere money that
23:15
Speaker 18: we actually do. So I was really surprised that the
23:17
Speaker 18: Minister said this, especially when we're talking about a government
23:20
Speaker 18: that never actually believes in Australia.
23:22
Speaker 7: Days, So that was really surprising.
23:24
Speaker 18: But then the biggest surprise of it all is that
23:27
Speaker 18: so we didn't actually have a backlog in Fairfield. Quite simply,
23:31
Speaker 18: the biggest surprise is that there seems to have been
23:34
Speaker 18: only Labor Party members allowed through the doors, So you
23:37
Speaker 18: had to have a Labor ticket to get in because
23:39
Speaker 18: quite obviously, if you're a Labor MP, even if you're
23:43
Speaker 18: from outside the area, you attended the event.
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Speaker 7: You attended the event and you presented certificates.
23:49
Speaker 18: And even the Labor candidate was allowed in the event
23:52
Speaker 18: to present certificates. So, quite simply, I was really surprised
23:56
Speaker 18: today what the Prime Minister said that he said that
23:58
Speaker 18: it was hosted in Reed, that's.
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Speaker 7: Why other MP's weren't allowed in.
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Speaker 18: But hang on a minute, and Stanley was there, Tony
24:05
Speaker 18: Sheldon was there, The representing certificates is black and white,
24:08
Speaker 18: and the candidate for foul Over there.
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Speaker 7: None of them represent the elector of Reed.
24:12
Speaker 18: So why is it that only those Labor Party MPs
24:17
Speaker 18: and Labor candidates were allowed to go there? Quite simply
24:20
Speaker 18: they turned it into a Labor campaign event and a
24:22
Speaker 18: catwalk for candidates.
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Speaker 7: And the really depressing thing about it all is that
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Speaker 7: citizenship is.
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Speaker 18: A wonderful time, wonderful time for the families to celebrate,
24:31
Speaker 18: to join and pledge legions to Australia. And what the
24:34
Speaker 18: minister did he cut down the amount of people that
24:37
Speaker 18: could go and share that beautiful moment. That means that
24:40
Speaker 18: citizens were allowed to have two people, whereas if in
24:42
Speaker 18: Fairfood you can bring your whole family, you can celebrate.
24:45
Speaker 18: But he increased the amount of people that could come in,
24:48
Speaker 18: such as politicians as long as you're a Labor party
24:51
Speaker 18: car carrying.
24:51
Speaker 7: Member of a candidate or an MP. And Die was excluded.
24:56
Speaker 18: And I know why she's offended because quite simply, I
24:59
Speaker 18: know she was not in Bye.
25:02
Speaker 3: I also revealed at the top of the show back
25:04
Speaker 3: in November they very quietly changed the rules to require
25:08
Speaker 3: the ae C the Electrical Commission to be present as
25:11
Speaker 3: well to make sure they were handing out enrollment forms.
25:15
Speaker 3: I think citizens have about two years to get on
25:18
Speaker 3: the role to vote. They don't want to waste their time.
25:21
Speaker 3: They're on the cusp of calling an election. So the
25:24
Speaker 3: AEC were down in the back of the room and
25:25
Speaker 3: they were pushing out the forms, getting people to sign
25:28
Speaker 3: up literally there and then because they must be on
25:30
Speaker 3: the role when the PM calls it and the Rits
25:33
Speaker 3: then close the role then closed sorry after the ritz
25:36
Speaker 3: are issued in order to vote. So that's why there's
25:40
Speaker 3: such a push on this and that's why I say
25:42
Speaker 3: it's absolute politics.
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Speaker 18: Well, I can assure you we haven't had any AEC
25:47
Speaker 18: members come to our ceremonies for the last three years,
25:50
Speaker 18: ever since COVID, we haven't seen them. All of a
25:53
Speaker 18: sudden since November, they've turned off to our ceremonies have
25:55
Speaker 18: been then pushing people to get on the role.
25:58
Speaker 7: So obviously something's changed.
26:00
Speaker 18: Since the new minister has come on board, and that's
26:03
Speaker 18: the big concern. So I don't know what's going on,
26:06
Speaker 18: but what I can tell you is definitely politics. I
26:09
Speaker 18: just heard right now that local Vietnamese community associations have
26:13
Speaker 18: been invited to gather them to cure a billy to
26:15
Speaker 18: spend the day with the Prime Minister. So quite clearly
26:19
Speaker 18: as a campaign happening, this unfortunately has gone really bad
26:22
Speaker 18: for the minister. I think that people are really upset
26:25
Speaker 18: because quite simply, he has misused his position. He's broken
26:29
Speaker 18: his own code, which under the Lationship Act he can't do.
26:32
Speaker 18: He must invite everybody. He can't have one rule for
26:35
Speaker 18: one and one rule for the other. Peter, he's invited
26:37
Speaker 18: to Labor members and he hasn't invited anyone else. So
26:41
Speaker 18: quite simply is misuse his position and he can't do that.
26:44
Speaker 18: If I did that at my ceremonies, I'll be sacked.
26:48
Speaker 18: I would be having salership to be taken away from me.
26:50
Speaker 18: And we would never do that because we wanted to be.
26:52
Speaker 2: By parts people talk about us.
26:55
Speaker 18: And unfortunately this is what happened. And it's a terrible
26:58
Speaker 18: thing that he's done. And I think he should actually
26:59
Speaker 18: consider he's positioned because I think he's undermined approaches of
27:02
Speaker 18: becoming an Australians.
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Speaker 3: You're not wrong, Frank Camboni, Thank you all right. After
27:09
Speaker 3: the break, Anthony Albanez, his insipid response to China ramps
27:12
Speaker 3: up our naval tensions.
27:13
Speaker 2: Plus what next for Ukraine?
27:15
Speaker 3: The divide between the US and Europe grows, Shadow Defense Minister,
27:19
Speaker 3: and you're hasty after the break, Welcome backs to the
27:25
Speaker 3: Carwine Earth is the r CL being forced to fundraise
27:29
Speaker 3: to hold Anzac Day commemorative services.
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Speaker 2: Its disgrace. Love More to say that in a.
27:35
Speaker 3: Moment the first China's Defense Ministry is hit back at
27:38
Speaker 3: as safety concerns amount. They've enaval exercises off the east
27:42
Speaker 3: coast of Australia which have caused commercial flights to deviate course.
27:47
Speaker 3: A spokesman for the Chinese Defense Ministry slammed Canberra's protests,
27:51
Speaker 3: saying that Australia has an I quote made unreasonable accusations
27:56
Speaker 3: against China and deliberately hyped it up. Now part the
28:00
Speaker 3: PM today was still bearing his head in the sand.
28:04
Speaker 4: Does this event have become breath into his key defense priorities.
28:08
Speaker 6: No, we had a defense review which went through that
28:16
Speaker 6: looked at defense force posture and we have considered as
28:20
Speaker 6: an island continent.
28:23
Speaker 7: Common sense tells.
28:24
Speaker 11: You that the navy is pretty important for Australia.
28:30
Speaker 3: What gobbledygook here is somebody doesn't give me gobledgook. Shadow
28:33
Speaker 3: Defense Minister Andrew Hasty, Andrew welcome. Are you satisfied with
28:38
Speaker 3: the Prime Minister's response there to the Chinese naval warship exercises.
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Speaker 19: Afternoon, Peter No, I'm not satisfied. The Prime Minister has
28:49
Speaker 19: shown weakness and he's failed to stand up for the
28:51
Speaker 19: Australian national interest and insist on mutual respect from the
28:55
Speaker 19: Chinese government.
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Speaker 9: The larger frame is really important here.
28:58
Speaker 19: China is undergoing the biggest piece time military build up
29:01
Speaker 19: since nineteen forty five. They've built a bluewater navy, which
29:04
Speaker 19: is a navy that can project around the globe, and
29:06
Speaker 19: they've sent it all the way through Philippine Waters, the
29:09
Speaker 19: Coral Sea, down pass Sydney and now into the Tasman
29:12
Speaker 19: Sea where they've conducted two lie fire exercises and disrupted
29:16
Speaker 19: our commercial flight path. The message from the Chinese is
29:19
Speaker 19: very clear. We are a global power and we're testing you.
29:22
Speaker 19: And Anthony Albanezi has failed to test. If this was
29:24
Speaker 19: a game of cricket, what we've seen over the last
29:27
Speaker 19: few days is what Steve war would have called mental disintegration.
29:30
Speaker 9: But it's not cricket.
29:31
Speaker 19: It's geopolitics and the stakes are very high for our country.
29:37
Speaker 3: We've had our divers injured, we've had those near missiles,
29:40
Speaker 3: with our near misses with our aviators and the lasers,
29:44
Speaker 3: we've got this happening.
29:45
Speaker 2: Now at Sea.
29:46
Speaker 3: I mean, China's drawing red lines all over the world's chessboard.
29:52
Speaker 3: They're crossing those red lines, and yet we're doing nothing.
29:57
Speaker 9: That's right, Peter.
29:58
Speaker 19: They keep moving further and further towards us and pushing
30:03
Speaker 19: our limits. And the Prime Minister's job as the leader
30:06
Speaker 19: of our country is to stand up for the boundaries
30:10
Speaker 19: that govern international relations, our sovereignty, our security, and mutual respect.
30:16
Speaker 9: China always talks about mutual respect.
30:18
Speaker 19: Well, if we did the same sort of thing in
30:20
Speaker 19: the South China Sea and disrupted the Chinese commercial flight paths,
30:24
Speaker 19: we'd have hell to pay.
30:25
Speaker 9: As a country.
30:27
Speaker 19: They've done it in our backyard, and the Prime ministers
30:29
Speaker 19: has been at pains to explain it away. He's justified
30:33
Speaker 19: this behavior, and I think that shows that he's not
30:35
Speaker 19: fit to lead this country. He's a weak leader and
30:38
Speaker 19: he's not across the National security brief.
30:43
Speaker 3: You often say, and I quote you, that weakness is provocative.
30:47
Speaker 2: Explain that to people at home.
30:51
Speaker 9: It's simple school yard politics.
30:53
Speaker 19: If you get pushed around and you don't push back,
30:57
Speaker 19: well then it'll keep coming. My father always taught me
30:59
Speaker 19: to deal with bullies by taking him on, smack him
31:03
Speaker 19: in the nose. Or build friendships and alliances, and you've
31:08
Speaker 19: got to insist on standards. That's the principle here. Weakness
31:11
Speaker 19: is provocative. If you keep caving and you keep allowing
31:14
Speaker 19: people to treat you like a doormat, well they'll keep
31:16
Speaker 19: doing it.
31:18
Speaker 9: Now.
31:19
Speaker 19: What the Prime Minister should do is just insist on
31:22
Speaker 19: basic standards here, basic communication. We weren't even notified of
31:25
Speaker 19: this lafire event. And insist on mutual respect. That's what
31:29
Speaker 19: he should be doing. And we called on him multiple
31:32
Speaker 19: times to pick up the phone peer to peer, manned
31:35
Speaker 19: man and insist that mutual respect be shown our defense
31:39
Speaker 19: force as they do their work in the region, and
31:41
Speaker 19: also insist on respect in our own backyard.
31:46
Speaker 2: Let's go to Ukraine.
31:48
Speaker 3: We've had word today that Vladimir Zelensky's offering to step
31:51
Speaker 3: down if it meant that Ukraine could be admitted to NATO.
31:55
Speaker 2: Have a listen.
31:57
Speaker 20: If it's about peace in Ukraine and you really want
32:00
Speaker 20: me to leave my position, I am ready to do that. Secondly,
32:03
Speaker 20: I can exchange it for NATO if there is such
32:06
Speaker 20: an opportunity.
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Speaker 3: I've just come back from the UK Andrew and a
32:12
Speaker 3: lot of concern about comments made from the us regarding
32:17
Speaker 3: Ukraine and the sense that it's being settled in the
32:21
Speaker 3: absence of Ukraine being at the table between Presidents Putin
32:25
Speaker 3: and President Trump. Give me your take on what you
32:28
Speaker 3: see happening at the moment.
32:32
Speaker 19: The simple facts of the matter is that Russia raised
32:35
Speaker 19: the sword against the Ukrainian people. Back in twenty twenty two,
32:39
Speaker 19: Vladimir Putin flew to Beijing, met with Jijingping during the
32:43
Speaker 19: Winter Olympics, all the way back in January of twenty two,
32:45
Speaker 19: entered into a no limit security partnership, and all the
32:48
Speaker 19: while massed his army, his armor, his soldiers on the
32:53
Speaker 19: Ukrainian border, and then went over the border and started
32:57
Speaker 19: the war. So that's the simple fact. Settlement that is
33:01
Speaker 19: made in coming weeks and months must uphold Ukrainian sovereignty.
33:05
Speaker 19: It's as simple as that. And I think that's really important,
33:08
Speaker 19: particularly for countries like Australia, because if we don't stand
33:11
Speaker 19: for the sovereignty of other countries, who will stand for
33:13
Speaker 19: ours if we ever faced a similar circumstance.
33:19
Speaker 3: Just before we go Andrew Victorian RSL if this is shameful.
33:25
Speaker 3: They've been forced to launch a special fundraising appeal in
33:28
Speaker 3: order that they can run our commemorative events on Antac Day.
33:33
Speaker 3: Now the cost is about a million dollars a million
33:36
Speaker 3: dollars in defense terms, that's a rounding error. Richard Marle
33:40
Speaker 3: spends three times at every year flying himself around the
33:44
Speaker 3: country on his raft jet. We are as a country
33:47
Speaker 3: making the RSL rattle the tin to pay for our
33:51
Speaker 3: dawn services. How on earth is this allowed?
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Speaker 19: Look, it's shameful. It's a simple estion for the Australian people.
34:01
Speaker 19: What do we celebrate, what do we remember? What makes
34:05
Speaker 19: us distinctive as a country? And Anzac Day is a
34:07
Speaker 19: day where we remember sacrifice. And it shouldn't be up
34:10
Speaker 19: to the RSLs to rattle the tin to fund these things.
34:13
Speaker 19: Local governments should pull in behind the RSLs. State government
34:17
Speaker 19: should do the same as well as federal governments. And
34:19
Speaker 19: there should be adequate funding for a day where we
34:21
Speaker 19: remember more than one hundred thousand Australian men and women
34:24
Speaker 19: who've given their lives for our country. And if we
34:27
Speaker 19: forget their sacrifice, then shame on us. And so we
34:30
Speaker 19: should actually be backing the RSL and supporting them.
34:35
Speaker 3: And we know to Andrew the Shrine in Melbourne, it's
34:38
Speaker 3: been forced to consider hospitality events.
34:42
Speaker 2: This isn't the shrine.
34:43
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a venerated, very somber place, but it'll
34:47
Speaker 3: be serving what Boos in Cannapa is again because there's
34:51
Speaker 3: a funding shortfall.
34:54
Speaker 19: Again, Dan Andrews and the labor government down there spent
34:59
Speaker 19: big they're running massive deficits. They could have spent some
35:02
Speaker 19: of that money making sure that our places of remembrance
35:07
Speaker 19: for our faun are upheld and in good good order,
35:10
Speaker 19: and they could be funding Victorian RSL.
35:13
Speaker 9: So I think it's shameful that the.
35:14
Speaker 19: Victorian RSL is having a fundraise and that they're having
35:17
Speaker 19: to at the Shyrant use hospitality to.
35:21
Speaker 9: Fund their activities.
35:22
Speaker 19: So yeah, this is a real problem and the Victorian
35:26
Speaker 19: government should be looking at getting in.
35:27
Speaker 9: Behind the people.
35:30
Speaker 3: You could be the Defense minister in a matter of weeks.
35:33
Speaker 3: Can I get a commitment from.
35:34
Speaker 2: You that you'll have a look at this if you
35:37
Speaker 2: are elected.
35:38
Speaker 19: Absolutely absolutely, we're going to fish fix the recruiting crisis.
35:42
Speaker 19: We're going to fix the retention crisis, we're going to
35:44
Speaker 19: fix the readiness crisis, and we're going to make sure
35:46
Speaker 19: that the traditions of this country are upheld and supported
35:50
Speaker 19: with adequate resourcing.
35:54
Speaker 3: Thank you, Andrew. Thanks Andrew has to there you go.
35:57
Speaker 3: It's just utterly shameful. A million dollars, as I said,
36:00
Speaker 3: the Prime Minister would spend more than that holding events
36:03
Speaker 3: at the Lodge or at Kurbilly House after the break
36:06
Speaker 3: another city Islamic preacher pushing his anti Israel hate and
36:11
Speaker 3: back to Anzac Day. You know we spend three million
36:14
Speaker 3: dollars this year on night OC week events.
36:17
Speaker 2: Poor old RSL rattling the tin for Anzac Day. It's
36:21
Speaker 2: not good enough. All right, welcome back to the calm.
36:27
Speaker 3: We'll got a live to roam from an update on
36:29
Speaker 3: the health of Pope Francis. It's slipped further overnight. It
36:33
Speaker 3: is critical. But first of three in the panel, Liberal
36:36
Speaker 3: Senator for South Australia Alex Antick and the l and
36:38
Speaker 3: PS Senator out of Queensland, James Bogra. Gents, welcome. I
36:43
Speaker 3: just went through this issue with the Andrew Haste. The
36:47
Speaker 3: RSL in Victoria calling on state and federal governments to
36:50
Speaker 3: help them fund ans Ac Day commemorations. They're launching an
36:53
Speaker 3: appeal to raise just over eight hundred thousand dollars because
36:57
Speaker 3: that's what they need to run these events. The PM
37:01
Speaker 3: was asked about this today but it didn't give anyone
37:04
Speaker 3: much of an answer.
37:04
Speaker 2: Have a listen.
37:07
Speaker 4: They're looking for funding.
37:08
Speaker 7: Would that be something the federal government would.
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Speaker 11: Look I can just say that the RSLs play a
37:15
Speaker 11: really important role in local communities and it's something that's
37:20
Speaker 11: a source of pride that wherever you go in Australia
37:24
Speaker 11: there are memorials and events.
37:29
Speaker 3: Alex, I know I want to cost to run his
37:30
Speaker 3: office and it's more than the million dollars at the
37:32
Speaker 3: RSL needs. I know what to cost to run the
37:34
Speaker 3: lodge in Kiribilly House. It' spend more on that on
37:37
Speaker 3: wine than the poor old RSL needs to run An's
37:40
Speaker 3: act day. And I also make the point we checked
37:43
Speaker 3: Nidok says the Aboriginal week that we have, we spend
37:46
Speaker 3: three million dollars on grants. That's three times what the
37:50
Speaker 3: poor old RSL needs. Again, why on earth it's chicken
37:55
Speaker 3: feed a million dollars to the federal government. Why on
37:58
Speaker 3: earth are they forced to have to run an appeal
38:01
Speaker 3: to findancec day?
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Speaker 21: Yeah, well, Peter, I mean the answer to that is
38:06
Speaker 21: because this government is horribly out of touch. I mean
38:08
Speaker 21: if you asked any person, man, woman or child on
38:10
Speaker 21: the street whether they thought that was reasonable for the
38:12
Speaker 21: RSL to have to do that, the answer would be no.
38:14
Speaker 21: Yet at the same time the Prime Minister seems to
38:17
Speaker 21: be floundering with almost unprepared for the answer there when
38:21
Speaker 21: that clip you showed. We've also got to remember that
38:23
Speaker 21: when it comes to finding money for causes that suit them,
38:27
Speaker 21: this government world class. They have taken something like four
38:31
Speaker 21: hundred and fifty million dollars out of Australian tax payer
38:33
Speaker 21: pockets to pay for their failed voice campaign, a billion
38:37
Speaker 21: dollars on a quantum computer, and I think something like
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Speaker 21: six hundred thousand dollars I want to bill shortened speech
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Speaker 21: writers as well, so you know they can find the
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Speaker 21: money when they want to. It's just that it's got
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Speaker 21: to be something which suits them and their cause, and
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Speaker 21: this does not seem to be. It's tragic and the RSL,
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Speaker 21: I hope get all the help they need because they're
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Speaker 21: critical days for us ANZAC Day.
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Speaker 2: You're not wrong.
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Speaker 3: Let's got a citizenship James McGraw. You know a bit
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Speaker 3: about campaigning, So the citizenship ceremonies. Now I've gone through
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Speaker 3: who's invited and who's not invited, and the weak excuses
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Speaker 3: from the Prime Minister. But what about the fact that
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Speaker 3: from November the AEC is required to be there and
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Speaker 3: hand out forms to sign you up, not just obviously
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Speaker 3: as a citizen that's been done, but to get you
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Speaker 3: on the electoral role as quick as quick as possible.
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Speaker 13: This just shows what the Labor Party are up to.
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Speaker 13: They know they've got the fight of their lives. And
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Speaker 13: the four and a half thousand people that were pushed
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Speaker 13: through last week, the only surprising thing about that is
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Speaker 13: it wasn't the full fifty thousand on the waiting list.
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Speaker 13: We've got a cost to live in crisis, we've got
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Speaker 13: a housing crisis, and Tony Burke is bringing the values
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Speaker 13: of Sussex Street by Labor Party headquarters to our citizenship ceremonies.
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Speaker 13: He's diminishing and demeaning the joy of becoming an Australian.
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Speaker 13: He's turning those ceremonies into something that's basically a de
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Speaker 13: facto Labor Party branch meeting and he should be ashamed
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Speaker 13: of what he's doing.
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Speaker 3: James, This says to me, though they're playing the politics
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Speaker 3: of every single vote. They know some of these marginals
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Speaker 3: could come down to single figures, double figures, maybe you know,
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Speaker 3: less than one hundred votes.
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Speaker 2: And they are doing everything.
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Speaker 3: They can, I think because their internal polling is probably
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Speaker 3: worse than we're seeing publicly.
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Speaker 13: Totally, Peter, what you're seeing with the Labor Party and
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Speaker 13: how they're spending money, not just over in the last
40:39
Speaker 13: couple of weeks, but over the last few months, shows
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Speaker 13: that they're going to try and buy the election, but
40:44
Speaker 13: also they're going to try and divide Australians by picking
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Speaker 13: groups off against other people and failing to miss Middle Australia,
40:52
Speaker 13: missing the cost of living crisis that's impacting all of us.
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Speaker 13: The Labor Party is pure politics. They can be very
40:59
Speaker 13: good at care painting, they can be very good at politics,
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Speaker 13: but they are terrible at policy delivery. They're terrible at government.
41:05
Speaker 13: And what we're seeing at the moment is a weak
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Speaker 13: prime minister who is getting his ministers to go out
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Speaker 13: there and play a pure politics. Just in estimates today,
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Speaker 13: Penny Wong took so many questions on notice, refused to
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Speaker 13: answer questions about the alleged caravan terror incident, and accused
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Speaker 13: Mikayia kash and I of playing politics, and what we
41:25
Speaker 13: were trying to do is get the answers that Australians wanted.
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Speaker 13: This coming election campaign is going to be a grubby
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Speaker 13: one and it's because we've got a weak prime minister.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I don't think they'll be around to give you
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Speaker 3: those questions I noticed were hit.
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Speaker 2: A caretaker period, as we all know.
41:42
Speaker 3: Hey what about this City's shik Ibrahim Dadoun who suggested
41:45
Speaker 3: that Israel's intelligence agency Mossad may have manufactured Australia's anti
41:51
Speaker 3: Semitism crisis.
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Speaker 21: Alex Oh, Look, Peter, I mean the mind boggles of
41:58
Speaker 21: some of this stuff. I mean, look, it's almost, you know,
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Speaker 21: sort of difficult to even respond to in many respects,
42:05
Speaker 21: but it does show that there is a problem out
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Speaker 21: there in the community that I don't think any of
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Speaker 21: us really understood prior to October seven. I mean, I
42:12
Speaker 21: think we're seeing now these views which have become more
42:19
Speaker 21: and more widespread and common mainstream, and I think it's
42:24
Speaker 21: a very alarming thing to have to happen. But look,
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Speaker 21: you know, it's almost the better that we say less
42:29
Speaker 21: we say about that, the better I think.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we're not getting any of those I'm not
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Speaker 3: indicating this individual as in an Australian citizen. I don't know,
42:40
Speaker 3: but many of them are not. Many of them are
42:42
Speaker 3: on visas here and I haven't seen one of these
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Speaker 3: preachers deported for things we find offensive in this country.
42:49
Speaker 3: Let's go to the budget and well, let's go to
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Speaker 3: the budget. There there will be no budget, James McGrath.
42:54
Speaker 3: I've been saying this for months and months and months
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Speaker 3: and months, there will be no budget. And the AFR
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Speaker 3: is in today that they're now talking about a budget
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Speaker 3: update instead of a full budget.
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Speaker 2: Now this is where we're headed.
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Speaker 3: Is going to call it within either this weekend or
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Speaker 3: next weekend. What do you think in terms of timing.
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Speaker 13: I'm a little little lonely sailor here because I think
43:19
Speaker 13: he's going to hang on to May. Because if I
43:21
Speaker 13: was Paul Erickson advising the Labor Prime Minister, I'd be saying, mate,
43:26
Speaker 13: your polling is in the toilet. Everybody hates you. The
43:30
Speaker 13: government's actually is a bit of disunity there. If an
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Speaker 13: election is called sooner, you're going to lose. Let's try
43:36
Speaker 13: and hang on to May because then you've got hope,
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Speaker 13: I think. But regardless of when the election's good I
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Speaker 13: think Peter Dutton is going to be the next Prime
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Speaker 13: minister for this country. But one reason why he may
43:45
Speaker 13: go early is because they don't want a full budget,
43:48
Speaker 13: because they don't want to show the Australian people the
43:50
Speaker 13: true figures of our national accounts and where the Australian
43:53
Speaker 13: Butcherty situation is going, because Labor aren't very good at
43:57
Speaker 13: running our economy and that's why we're in a cost
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Speaker 13: of living crisis.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Alex, they're not going to hang around to May.
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Speaker 3: I have to disagree with your good friend there, because
44:06
Speaker 3: it's all a sea of reading, right, So if they
44:09
Speaker 3: hang around and deliver a budget, they're just confirming the fears.
44:12
Speaker 3: That's not a good platform to kick things off for
44:14
Speaker 3: an election campaign.
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Speaker 20: Yeah.
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Speaker 21: Look, I don't know either. I mean we've been coming
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Speaker 21: an ring and guessing. I don't think Labour no, honestly,
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Speaker 21: I think they're so in disarray that it's a day
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Speaker 21: by day proposition. But in one sense, if you have
44:28
Speaker 21: this sort of faux budget you can make announcements without
44:31
Speaker 21: having having to cost them properly. That may well be
44:34
Speaker 21: the best safety house halfway house. But either way, as
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Speaker 21: James quite rightly says, This is just pure dysfunction and
44:42
Speaker 21: it looks desperate to me, I have to say, increasingly,
44:45
Speaker 21: around this place we are seeing a very desperate government
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Speaker 21: hanging on by the skin of its teeth or its fingernails,
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Speaker 21: whichever one you like.
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Speaker 2: I tell you what I thought.
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Speaker 3: Rud Gillard was a creating period, but this blog takes
44:58
Speaker 3: a cake. He makes them look like, you know, a
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Speaker 3: brain's trust. I'll leave it there, gent see you next
45:02
Speaker 3: week after break, go light to Rome for an update
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Speaker 3: on the Pope's health.
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Speaker 9: Welcome back.
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Speaker 3: We'll go live now to Rome for an update on
45:14
Speaker 3: the Pope's health. The Vatican has revealed the Pope Francis
45:17
Speaker 3: remains in a critical condition and it is ongoing bat
45:19
Speaker 3: it with pneumonia. Things are quite critical. Joining me now
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Speaker 3: a Vatican correspondent, Colin Flynn. Colin, thanks, thank you for
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Speaker 3: your time. What's the latest. We're getting mixed reports, you know,
45:31
Speaker 3: sometimes it seems better than others, some days better than others,
45:34
Speaker 3: but it's now said to be critical.
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Speaker 2: What's the Pope's condition?
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Speaker 20: Hey, Peter, very good morning to you and everyone watching.
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Speaker 20: And you're right, that is the challenge with covering this
45:44
Speaker 20: pope and this papacy at the moment. I'll just give
45:46
Speaker 20: you a quick live shot there on the feed that
45:49
Speaker 20: is Saint Peter's Square, Saint Peter's Basilica. Now this morning
45:52
Speaker 20: you can see pilgrims moving around outside of the hospital
45:55
Speaker 20: where the Pope is being treated, the Jamelle Hospital. Around
45:58
Speaker 20: twenty minutes here. People have been over the weekend praying
46:01
Speaker 20: and vidual and I can tell you, Peter, just as
46:03
Speaker 20: we were coming on air, in the last couple of minutes,
46:05
Speaker 20: literally the Vatican have released a very short and simple
46:08
Speaker 20: statement saying the night has passed well, the Pope slept
46:12
Speaker 20: and he is still resting. Now this is normal that
46:15
Speaker 20: in the morning we normally get a very short statement
46:17
Speaker 20: saying the Pope slept, he's eating breakfast, he read the paper,
46:21
Speaker 20: or something like that. But what is very concerning, Pete
46:23
Speaker 20: is that last night, the detailed statement that we got
46:26
Speaker 20: from the Vatican was that the Holy Father remained critical,
46:30
Speaker 20: also that his blood tests demonstrated an initial mild kidney failure,
46:35
Speaker 20: but this was under control. And then they finished off
46:37
Speaker 20: by saying Jude to the complexity of his situation and
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Speaker 20: the fact that they have to wait to see if
46:43
Speaker 20: the new treatments they are giving him are working. His
46:45
Speaker 20: prognosis remains reserved, which we take to read as we
46:50
Speaker 20: don't know if he's getting better or if the Holy
46:53
Speaker 20: Father is going to get worse.
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Speaker 3: We've had some discussion in the media here, you know,
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Speaker 3: will he abdicate or will he step down from the
47:04
Speaker 3: papal throat. I mean the difficulty is we've never really
47:07
Speaker 3: seen that other than the case of Pope Benedict, and
47:12
Speaker 3: that was sort of a real anomally. That's not what
47:14
Speaker 3: normally happened in relation to the Catholic Church. What's your
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Speaker 3: prediction should he become even more incapacitated here.
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Speaker 20: Yeah, And just to point out, and we have to
47:24
Speaker 20: keep emphasizing this that as far as the Vatican are concerned,
47:27
Speaker 20: we still have a successor of Peter. We still have
47:30
Speaker 20: a pope, and that is Pope Francis, who we pray
47:32
Speaker 20: for America will pull through this. But you're right in
47:35
Speaker 20: saying that Paul Benedict the sixteenth, the pope from Germany
47:37
Speaker 20: who was just before Pope Francis, he made history by
47:40
Speaker 20: being the first in six hundred years to resign. Now,
47:45
Speaker 20: you know, we would need a lot of time to
47:47
Speaker 20: talk about the theological aspects of this, Peter, But just
47:50
Speaker 20: to kind of boil it down, remember, Catholics believe that, yes,
47:54
Speaker 20: it is a group of men in the conclave selecting
47:56
Speaker 20: the pope, but ultimately they believe it's the Holy Spirit
47:59
Speaker 20: work through them picking that person. So even if you
48:02
Speaker 20: want to resign, even if you feel like you can't
48:04
Speaker 20: go on, how do you give your resignation to the
48:07
Speaker 20: Holy Spirit. How do you know if it's been accepted.
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Speaker 20: Pope Francis was asked this when I was with them
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Speaker 20: coming back on the plane from Bahrain, and a journalist said,
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Speaker 20: do you believe in the resignation? And he said, no,
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Speaker 20: I believe the papacy is for life until the very end.
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Speaker 15: That's just me.
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Speaker 20: But then he paused and he said, now that's how
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Speaker 20: I feel today. Ask me the same question again tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: Oh well, that's very interesting.
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Speaker 3: We'll leave it there column as I We'll send the
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Speaker 3: Holy Father prayers for a recovery. Although I think things
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Speaker 3: look pretty great. Thank you for your time, all right,
48:41
Speaker 3: Thank you for your company. Great to be back home.
48:43
Speaker 3: Got it's warman in London. Great to have your company.
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Speaker 3: As always, He's Andrew