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'Netanyahu did not want this agreement, it was imposed on him very brutally by Trump' · THE DAILY BRIEF

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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm joined now by Iran Etsion, former head of
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  Speaker 1: policy planning at Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs and former
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  Speaker 1: deputy head of the National Security Council in the Prime
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  Speaker 1: Minister's office.
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  Speaker 2: So thank you very much for joining us here on
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  Speaker 2: the program. I just want to get your take on
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  Speaker 2: this actual deal because already, you know, we know the
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  Speaker 2: ceasefire is in effect. We've heard Prime Minister Benjamin Ettaniel
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  Speaker 2: who say if Hamas doesn't disarm, we hold the right
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  Speaker 2: to go back. I spoke to Hamas saying we're not
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  Speaker 2: going to disarm yet because we don't feel secure.
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  Speaker 3: What's your take, Well, there's actually no agreement. There is
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  Speaker 3: a proposal by Trump that was allegedly agreed to by
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  Speaker 3: both sides, but both sides gave essentially a huge yes.
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  Speaker 3: But where the but is much bigger than the yes,
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  Speaker 3: And what it amounts to is the possibility probability of
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  Speaker 3: the first phase being successfully executed. We're all hoping and
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  Speaker 3: we're rooting for it. On Monday, the release of ostriches
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  Speaker 3: in exchange for a large amount almost two thousand Palestinian prisoners,
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  Speaker 3: detainees and so on, some of them, you know, horrible
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  Speaker 3: murderers and the entrance of AID into Gaza, and then
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  Speaker 3: the idea F has retreated already to a certain lane
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  Speaker 3: which is relatively deep into Gaza, approximately thirty to fifty
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  Speaker 3: percent of the area, but not in control of any Palestinians.
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  Speaker 3: Are there will be effectively under Hamas's control. So we're
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  Speaker 3: going to be in a bizarre situation which resembles to
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  Speaker 3: a certain extent, the day before rather than the day
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  Speaker 3: after the war in Gaza.
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean when you say the day.
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  Speaker 3: Before Hamas was essentially in control and it will regain control,
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  Speaker 3: at least it may regain control, Let's put it this way,
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  Speaker 3: which is not the spirit of the agreement, not the intent,
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  Speaker 3: certainly not of the Israelis, and also I believe not
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  Speaker 3: of the Americans, the Egyptians, Tarries and the Turks.
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  Speaker 2: But there's no alternative, is that what you're saying at
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  Speaker 2: this point in terms of a governing force.
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  Speaker 3: See, we have to distinguish between what will actually happen
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  Speaker 3: on the ground and the language of the agreement. According
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  Speaker 3: to the agreement, there's supposed to be an International Stabilization
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  Speaker 3: Force denoted as ISF that is supposed to replace the IDF,
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  Speaker 3: and replace Hamas and assist the new transitional for the
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  Speaker 3: technocratic government by the Palestinians who should be nominated with
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  Speaker 3: involvement of the PA and the Americans and Israelis and
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  Speaker 3: so on.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds great on paper.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly, but on the ground effectively, as of next week,
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  Speaker 3: Hamas might be able to resurrect unless there is very
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  Speaker 3: quick and effective action by all the parties involved.
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel confident that there will be quick action?
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  Speaker 3: I can say I feel confident, but I do believe
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  Speaker 3: that certainly the Egyptians who have a lot of skin
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  Speaker 3: in this game, the Qataris and the Turks that are
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  Speaker 3: obliged to Trump and that have the obviously their own
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  Speaker 3: interests visas the Kamas, visa vid the Muslim the regional
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  Speaker 3: and global movement of the Muslim Brotherhood of which Hamas
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  Speaker 3: is a branch. They have that it's a very intricate
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  Speaker 3: network of interests. So they have a lot of interest
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  Speaker 3: to try and stabilize the situation. But as we saw
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  Speaker 3: in the in the previous interview that you that you made,
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  Speaker 3: Hamas is reluctant to disarm and reluctant to be out
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  Speaker 3: of the game. Even though what.
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  Speaker 2: You said there is no deal. These are all things
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  Speaker 2: up for negotiation. So he didn't sort of deny what
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  Speaker 2: you're saying.
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  Speaker 3: That was their position and it remains their position. We'll
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  Speaker 3: see what happens. We'll see what kind of pressures will
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  Speaker 3: be brought to bear on them.
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  Speaker 2: What about Benjamin Nettino, who he's talked about total victory
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  Speaker 2: the entire time, and you're saying what we could see
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  Speaker 2: is Hamas back in a position where it could come
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  Speaker 2: up from the ashes.
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  Speaker 3: We all understand the Ntenelle did not want disagreement. It
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  Speaker 3: was imposed on him very brutally by Trump and it
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  Speaker 3: was also the result of a huge protest by millions
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  Speaker 3: of Israelis who took to the streets over this entire
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  Speaker 3: period and are now content and very much hoping for
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  Speaker 3: this to actually happen. But it was not Lintoniel's wish,
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  Speaker 3: and Ntoniello is still interested in doing everything he can
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  Speaker 3: not to abide by disagreement, just.
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  Speaker 2: Like Commas So Hamas and Natall who are on the
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  Speaker 2: same page with this. Both of them want to violate
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  Speaker 2: this agreement. Yes, who will put pressure on Benjamin Nataniell?
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  Speaker 2: Who do you believe it will still be Donald Trump
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  Speaker 2: that he will have the patience to do that.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see. The division of labor, obviously between the various
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  Speaker 3: third parties, is that Trump is supposed to deliver Nataniello
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  Speaker 3: and the Turks and the Kataris, and to a certain extent,
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  Speaker 3: the Egyptians are supposed to deliver Commas. They were able
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  Speaker 3: to do it until a certain point, as we said,
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  Speaker 3: phase one. We'll see what happens next week. I believe
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  Speaker 3: Trump will remain engaged, but I cannot say with a
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  Speaker 3: huge degree of confidence that he will have the necessary
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  Speaker 3: patience and the energy and you know, the resources that
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  Speaker 3: it would take to continue and push Nataniell to commit
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  Speaker 3: to the next phases of the deal, because Nathaniel's very
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  Speaker 3: clear political personal interest is not to abide by this
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  Speaker 3: deal but rather to go back to war, and this
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  Speaker 3: of course runs against these personal guarantees that we're now
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  Speaker 3: reported that Trump gave to the various mediators.
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  Speaker 2: I got thirty seconds, So the situation is very fluid.
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  Speaker 3: Still, Yeah, we need to discuss Israeli politics and the
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  Speaker 3: choice that Israeli people will have to make. Hopefully shortly.
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  Speaker 3: Elections are slated for November twenty six, but they might
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  Speaker 3: be pushed.
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  Speaker 1: Back and will have to leave it there around Eton.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts with us.