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Brandon Holthaus: How Much Longer Will God Have Mercy On America? · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to Worldview Matters, discussing controversial issues,
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  discerning current events, defending biblical Christianity.
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  No topic, off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Firazo.
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  I see the stars. I hear the rolling thunder.
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  I power throughout the universe this way.
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  The reaction of Christians after Trump's victory speech on election night,
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  or the morning after various reactions, various views on Christianity and politics.
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  And we're going to talk about all that today with our guest, Brandon Holthaus.
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  Pastor Brandon, he's from Rock Harbor Church, Rock Harbor Church.net out in California.
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  Also, tip of the spear ministry.com.
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  Tip of the spear ministry.com.
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  Pastor Brandon, thanks for your time. Good to see you, brother.
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  Hey, David. Great to be on with you today.
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  It sure is. And your reaction as a pastor, I know you're one of those that was trying to get your people.
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  Bible-believing Christians engaged to go vote, not just to say, you know what?
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  Let the world take care of that. And I know we have more to say about that.
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  But just your view of the election results, Christians worshipping God instead of Trump.
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  Because we know there's idolatry in some camps.
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  Go ahead and give us your overall thoughts.
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  Take us wherever you want.
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  Well, I think God spoke on this last election.
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  And I think you go back to the two assassinations attempt on Trump.
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  And now he wins.
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  Okay. So what am I supposed to read from that as a Christian?
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  I think what I read from that is God who doesn't deserve to give us anything or opus anything for what America has done.
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  Has graciously given us another four years of and what we're what we're praying for.
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  Is more time to do the work of the Lord not be censored.
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  And and living in an environment that's safer than what has been transpiring.
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  Through open borders and the criminality and not prosecuting people and and a lot of this stuff.
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  This abortion on demand and those types of things we wanted some freedom to say enough enough of this.
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  And it seems like obviously enough Americans rose up to vote and get Trump in there.
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  And again, he's not perfect. I'm not saying he is.
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  But the other side, Kamala, that was on a fast track to Hades in a hand basket.
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  And and censorship would have been all out the control of the World Health Organization and the W E F and the UN.
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  And they're packed for the future would have been all foisted on us had she got in there.
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  So God spared us. Now the thing about it is, okay, what are we going to do with this?
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  Because we're responsible now that he's given us somewhat of a reprieve.
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  And the thing I want to make a point about guys is yes, what this was was kind of a reckoning.
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  This wasn't an election of Republican and Democrat.
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  This is a election versus globalism versus nationalism or or the West, if you want to call it.
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  And enough people in the West push back, but please understand there are half of a country still that is an anger right now.
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  Still in their positions that sacrificing babies is fine that men that they believe that men can have babies.
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  There's a portion of our country that still believes that.
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  So it's not like we're unified.
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  This is the most division division we've ever seen because we're dealing with concepts that we can agree on.
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  I can't agree that there's more than two genders. I'm sorry. I can't agree with that.
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  I can't agree that a man can have a baby. I can't agree with that.
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  But that still exists and what people have to understand is yes, we want an election that gives us more freedom, but the fight is still there spiritually.
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  And how does this affect Israel? Yes, it helps Israel in a big way.
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  Because now there's not going to be any arms embargo coming from the Biden administration to Israel.
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  Trump will give Israel what they need to deal with.
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  Hezbollah and Iran and everybody in the Middle East now is shaking in their boots realizing, uh oh, he got in there and not Kamala.
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  So that helps Israel and what does it does for us is the Abrahamic covenant.
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  I will bless those who bless you and I will curse those who curse you.
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  So it has a lot of positive aspects, but the issue I want everyone to stand the fight's not over.
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  It is just begun far from it.
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  And so we've got more, almost more work to do now because I think we have taken our religious freedoms for granted and not enough Christians were vocal, active, engaged, exposing the deeds of darkness.
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  It's really fighting for the truth and pastors.
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  I mean, yeah, the election results were pleased with how it went down under God's sovereignty.
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  But there's still a lot of pastors that won't touch on Bible prophecy, they won't touch on controversial issues, there's replacement theology and all kinds of other garbage, the prosperity gospel.
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  But that's not for today's subject.
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  What I wanted to talk more about, Brandon, is something you said earlier.
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  It wasn't Christians that pushed Trump over the goal line, so to speak.
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  It was I think 45% of Hispanics, maybe that's too high.
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  But there was a high number of the Hispanic population that voted conservative, whether they're Christians or not, we don't know some of them probably are.
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  So that's interesting, the different groups, even young people, which really surprised me.
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  Trump made progress from the last election in every category and Kamala Harris didn't in just the opposite.
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  She lost ground from what Biden got and that tells me the average American who voted and majority obviously elected Trump.
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  They did not like what the administration did their policies, their platform and their procedures in the last four years, your thoughts on that.
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  You're hitting the nail on the head and let me explain something from a political standpoint.
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  And then I think I'm going to I'll connect it to the theology standpoint.
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  So here's here's who pushed Trump over into winning.
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  First of all, it wasn't evangelicals.
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  And I said to this to you off air, the biggest demographic of evangelicals are white male evangelicals.
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  Okay, 22% of them voted. That's horrible.
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  And then you go you go from that demographic to Hispanic and black and it's even it's even lower.
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  Okay, but that's the biggest voting block for evangelicals is white males and 22% and only 22% of them voted.
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  So basically, David, what I am saying is as I pushed people to vote as the remnant pastors push people to vote, what ended up happening is the evangelicals were insignificant in this election of Donald Trump.
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  It wasn't them who voted him in and that's what every pastor and church and congregant needs to understand we failed on on this election.
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  And yet it still turned out okay, right?
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  Okay, so who pushed Donald Trump over the over over into winning.
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  The biggest factor was generation X generation X, my generation, the latch key generation actually were the ones who actually pushed him over the edge and now ban on that, let me put another caveat on to it that's going to tie into spirituality.
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  The Republican party and the Democratic party have seen a shift over the year and specifically in this election.
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  So the Republican party is not the party of the wealthy elites, even though you see the Elon Musk and some of these other guys supporting Trump, that's not what the Republican looks like.
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  The Republican party now has shifted to non-college graduates, whereas the Democrat now has shifted to college graduates suburbanites.
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  And so what's into happening this demographic shift on based on whether or not you went to college, whether or not you're a white collar worker or a blue collar worker has changed.
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  And so now it's the Republicans and those were the people who elected Trump and the independence as well. Now, now here's the thing.
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  It was based on education, David. And so now let's make the theological move and correlate that. So what we're seeing is this, people who go to college are now voting left this liberal Democrat.
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  People who don't go to college are voting more for the West, more for borders, more for pro life.
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  But let's tell us as far as a society about the institution of education in America.
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  Exactly.
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  Okay, so we have our answer right there. And this election, David, cemented that in that we have a fundamental problem in our college and universities.
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  So I even go back to Josh McGalley said this a long time ago that we are losing 80% of our Christian kids because we send them to these crazy colleges and they come out full blown marks as socialist atheists denying the faith.
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  So we have a problem. And I think now Christians, okay, so is this tied correlated to the lack of voting? I don't know. I don't know what the I can give you some reasons statistically why people why Christians said they didn't vote.
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  But I can tell you this from from from this just one point if you send your kid to college.
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  There's a good chance they're going to come out of leftist. They're going to good chance. And that's I think we have to we have to acknowledge that.
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  That something has changed about our colleges. Yeah, I hope that's realized that. I hope so too. And and look man, I was talking to Alex Newman about this the other day.
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  And we saw what the UN was trying to impose at all all nations voted for this including the United States about the packed for the future.
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  It was the whole thing about the UN pushing several main items and one of the main items was we want to bring in the young people into the decision making processes of the UN.
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  And you're thinking what what does that mean? We are they going to fly kids teenagers and young people over to Brussels and sit down and say help us make policy for the UN. No, that's not what's going to happen.
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  The real issue is they want to go after the young people. And so the battleground to get their minds being a global citizen will be the public schools and the colleges universities. That's what they're planning on doing.
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  Absolutely. You know that. But they now now they stayed it and it's in their documents and you anyone can read their documents for the packed for the future.
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  And you look at any regime Nazi Germany you look at communism or whatever they always go after the young people right because they're impressionable and they haven't formulated a world view.
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  And so we have that. Okay, so let's go back to the voting thing. Yeah.
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  What were some of the reasons Christians who go to church it's in church regular they said didn't vote. Well, one of them was I'm just not interested in the issues of that they're voting for.
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  Oh geez. Yeah, that was one of the reasons I'm not and I want to say to those Christians what issues are more important in sacrificing babies security criminality or economy.
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  Do you like paying $20 for a big Mac a large coke and a large fry you like that you like your economy you like your gas prices going up and so so David.
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  What are these Christians they said it wasn't their main issues well what is their main issue of saving the whales I mean what is it.
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  So we got a lot of Christians David apparently that are checked out of reality yeah and then some some of them even said this well every politics is just too controversial for me.
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  Excuse me do you need puppies do you need Plato do you need a safe room it's too controversial this is life.
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  You need to stand up stand up and can't be counted we need you to fight evil it's just too controversial for me David I don't want to get involved yeah they need to read their Bibles I appeal to Caesar use the rights that you have to further the kingdom of God.
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  The Mayflower compact advancing the Christian faith advancing the gospel that's why people came to this land we got to take a brief pause we're abandoned whole house and by the way friends you go to tip of the spear ministry dot com you can find him on Facebook Instagram tip of the spear also on YouTube and we'll be right back on World View Matters.
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  We're very thankful however there is still that one party big tech media conglomerate that we have to deal with but right and I want to just say this real quick we both both tip of the spear and World View Matters had Alex Newman on election day.
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  We both put that out there so he was getting out there man we just had a really great conversation as you did as well with Alex love people like him but before we go on you're going to Scotland of the Europe.
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  Some great men of God tell us about your trip coming up yeah we're heading to Ireland Scotland and and switch one and what we're doing is a prophecy conference for the remnant because what happens over there.
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  Is they don't have people to preach on Bible prophecy and the ability to connect dots with what's currently going on and David like Europe is ground zero for a lot of a lot of the building of the global government and all that other stuff and they're they're lacking leadership over there so when I do is I partner.
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  Billy Crone is the head of all of this I partner with him and Mondo Gonzalez and a few others and we go over there and we provide conferences for them to talk about Bible prophecy and and David we take it kind of for granted in America says we talk about this a lot but over there they'll ever hear it and so it's an opportunity to share with them that remnant group of believers.
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  Hey here's what's going on this is what prophecy says and so it's a great time and it's a great time to be with the remnant there is a remnant in Europe and but they're leaderless unfortunately.
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  We are so fortunate here I think we were talking before we got on the podcast of just how spoiled we are and that can lead to apathy pursuit of comfort and leisure and just getting our focus off the great commission and the kingdom work that we need to be about we need to be about God's business while we're here I know I'm preaching to the choir when I say that but another reason Brandon and we can go anywhere with this in the last 10 minutes here that I believe Donald Trump under God.
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  Sovereignty was put back into this place of power is our alliance with Israel totally we know how the Biden administration how the left and the Obama Biden Harris Pelosi Schumer Democrats looked at Israel and it's really sad but thank God from that respect go ahead and share.
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  Well what we have seen on the ground from the Biden administration and Harris administration or whatever you want to call the cabal the Leviathan that was controlling him because I don't think the guy was in charge.
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  These were a lot of Obama holdovers as you know and a lot of the Obama holdovers are pro-Iranian anti-Israel and anti-Semitic as well.
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  So what we had seen is a pro-Iranian policy because the Biden administration like day one lifted all the sanctions on on Iran allow them to sell oil to China and they made about 90 billion dollars in selling oil to China.
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  And basically just let Iran run the show and and releasing all kinds of sanctions on them and which ingratiated him so Iran went from a GDP of 200 I think it's I want to say billion but it went to a GDP of 400 billion under the Biden administration so they helped Iran.
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  When Donald Trump was in power he decreased their GDP because he put so many economic sanctions and by the way there was no who these and and a gazons or or or his bala trying to mess with Israel on his watch.
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  This is why we're very thankful for Donald Trump getting in there because now Iran knows you mess around we already know how Donald Trump will act.
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  He already took out salamani with a drone and he will do the same thing to anyone else.
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  And believe it or not what what what what what Victor Davis Hansen mentions and I'm going to echo what he said about this.
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  Strength is deterrence and when they will in the Middle East in the Middle Eastern mindset they do not respect weakness if they think if they think you're you're not going to retaliate then they will go for it as a sign of weakness.
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  That Victor Davis Hansen said Trump illustrates strength and that deters them in the Middle East so you have to know the little you know a little bit about the Middle Eastern mindset.
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  Okay. That then what has happened lately and look I'm working with IDF units we're supplying a lot of the reserve units with a bullet and not bullet sorry helmets.
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  Bulletproof vests the knee pads everything they need and drones to protect themselves and here's what they say the reason this thing is taking so long David is because the United States has been slow walking the arms which are had congressional approval.
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  And they've been slow walking the bunker busters and these other 500 pound bombs and another munitions that has caused a problem of getting the job done and especially in the north look the tunnel system that you saw in Gaza is that extensive up in the north as well.
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  Yeah. And what are units are telling they're all moving up north now and they've got to push his beloved past the Latani river and get a create a buffer zone well that means you've got to go house to house fighting like they were doing in Gaza.
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  And and so it's very dangerous that's why drones are the main thing that we're supplying them right now because like you saw with Sinwar they took a drone and they they took them out.
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  Yeah. So anyway now that Trump's in there thank God because Trump is very pro-Israel and he will give the arms that are have a congressional approval to them to finish the job now they got to take out his beloved and the next stage is they got to take out the top brass of the Iranian regime because those guys are psychopaths.
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  And so you know where does that lead well as Bible students we know that there's other invasions of Gog of May Gog and other things that put Israel in the target.
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  So things don't get better for Israel as far as prophecies concerned but in the meantime at least they can defend themselves and I think this is the key of understanding Trump.
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  It's not so much about Trump it's about preserving Israel because they faced an existential threat with Iran and the people around them that want to destroy them and that's what that's why Netanyahu went against the advice of the Biden administration and said we got to protect ourselves we're going to do something.
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  I'm so thankful I did a show last week I don't remember the guest two weeks ago that the thank God Israel Netanyahu stopped listening to the Biden Obama Democrats.
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  I'm so thankful they've made more progress since they just said you know what I'm not saying I don't think of the this administration and America has our best interests at heart but Brandon I want to go back to something in the last five minutes here at least a few minutes.
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  We were saying why Christians just didn't show up and it's just really sad I get really frustrated at this no excuse but I get really frustrated at this some of them say it's the lesser of two evils argument that's politics you're not going to have a pastor of theologian running the country.
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  So would you please speak to that for a minute because we still need to have these conversations with people there's a lot of work to be done and midterms will be in a couple years you know there's always this political work and Christians are not influencing culture and politics for righteousness go ahead and share about this well.
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  We know the Marxists are bad the communists that the left the Democrats we know Kamala Harris's background cheese evil but Trump is evil too he's not perfect look at his character look at his tweets look at this and that and they're looking they're not looking at policy that's right through the lens of the Bible when they say that could you please speak to that for a few minutes.
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  Yeah there's several reasons why that's happening in let me address the first one the first one is pietism and and they have to get out over their their puritanical pietism and realize you are not voting for a pastor and it's not Jesus who's running for office these are politicians and what we're trying to do they think in their pietism david that they're going to be held accountable for voting even for the lesser of evil because they think they're still voting for evil.
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  And it's it doesn't work that way with God here they are using the wrong metrics to compare we're not supposed to compare Donald Trump to Jesus that's not that's not what we're doing the metric is we compare Donald Trump to Kamala Harris that's the proper metric.
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  And the question then is what what comparison gives me the most freedom as a Christian to do the work of the Lord or what what comparison gives Israel the most protection is it going to be perfect no but what does that.
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  So what instead of saying the lesser evil who brings me the most good is the metric that's how you should look at it and and so that becomes the salt and light that I'm going to try to do the best I can to achieve the best good even though I might not achieve you know 80% good or maybe I get the 50% good but this is where salt and light comes in and understanding that metric of I'm trying to achieve.
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  The most good possible so what I'm saying is Christians because of pietism and pietism is a problem it goes back to the reformation where pietism came from and it started saying to people don't get involved involved in politics and basically it created as Victor Davis Hanson said a monastery of the mind for the Christian to where they're not engaging and so
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  pietism I believe is a heresy that comes from the reformation that we don't get involved in politics so there's a there's a there's a theological construct there okay the other thing that I would say is we have people in the church that are undermining things David where they're actually telling people not to vote and so that that is a leadership problem we're having on this other end saying that you shouldn't vote.
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  And we're not of this world that's and that's what we have to so it's a twofold problem.
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  Well we have dual citizenship we are citizens of heaven praise God for what we have to look forward to and we are already citizens but we are also citizens of the United States.
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  It's a rare a rare opportunity here in this world in this country to be able to preach the gospel freely to some extent I mean we get censored on different platforms but I mean we've really been blessed and we certainly
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  have not used our talents our blessings to advance the kingdom as a whole in the body of Christ we can do a whole another show on that.
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  But just your closing thoughts as we move on from a surprising election result and season just your closing thoughts here in the last 30 seconds.
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  With with this opportunity of having Trump in we've got to take the responsibility of saying okay I need to be about my father's business because he didn't just give us this time just to lie around and do nothing about.
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  We need to get about the work of the Lord evangelizing discipling and anything he's called us to do. Amen. Amen.
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  Thank you brother so much appreciate it safe travels. I know you had a conference the end of the world conference.
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  Yeah just got down with that. Yeah so just praise God people can get that and watch that on DVD eventually right.
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  That's right for hope for our time it's going to be on there. Awesome awesome so tip of the spear minister dot com Brandon God bless your brother.
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  God bless you guys thank you so much for sharing the podcast God bless you and as always you know what I'm going to say keep speaking the truth about things that matter.