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The Buffet with Chad and Scooch, Episode 34 - Featuring Colin Cowherd · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Coming to you from fabulous Las Vegas. The right side
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  Speaker 1: is the winning side. The late move is the correct move.
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  Speaker 1: Sports betting capital of the world. We all know when
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  Speaker 1: a sharp like me weighs in the lines move, it's
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  Speaker 1: a party for your ears. This is the buffet with
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  Speaker 1: Chad and Scooch. I want to buy that guy at buffet,
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  Speaker 1: all right, It is the buffet with Chad and Scooch,
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  Speaker 1: Savage Scooch. He's not available today. But I got something
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  Speaker 1: much much better because I have a good friend who
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  Speaker 1: also is probably the most talented radio host, and you
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  Speaker 1: can include sports and non sports in that working in
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  Speaker 1: the biz today. My former castmate at ESPN, who I
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  Speaker 1: was on a show with for two years now at
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  Speaker 1: Fox starring on all various platforms for Fox Sports, Mr
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  Speaker 1: Colin cow Heard. How you doing, buddy, Hey, how are
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  Speaker 1: you doing? I'm doing great, man. We got so much
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  Speaker 1: exciting stuff to talk about because you and I have
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  Speaker 1: been talking about sports betting in the mainstream space. Honest
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  Speaker 1: to god. We probably became friends in like two thousand
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  Speaker 1: eleven when I moved with the magazine of Bristol and
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  Speaker 1: we would talk about on your show, and then we
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  Speaker 1: were doing Colin's Football Show on Sunday, Me You and
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  Speaker 1: Tom Model, which was uh maybe the greatest professional experience
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  Speaker 1: any of us. Still it still ranks is the most
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  Speaker 1: fun I've ever had in my career. That was so fun.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that show, honest to God. You know, there
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  Speaker 1: are times, you know, because we are starting something Brandon
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  Speaker 1: who had Action Network, and honest to God, like, I
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  Speaker 1: am shooting this in our studio which doubles as our
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  Speaker 1: conference room, and um, it is not all that dissimilar
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  Speaker 1: from the studio we had for Collins Football Show. It
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  Speaker 1: is like a converted closet. I mean, I'm I'm kind
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  Speaker 1: of a I'm kind of a believer in if you
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  Speaker 1: can't be. We knew the show was never gonna be
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  Speaker 1: NFL Live, so once you know you're not it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: a ratings play. What it was going to be is
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  Speaker 1: kind of an iconoclastic, weird, contrarian play. And we went
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  Speaker 1: into that show with a perfect mindset of let's do
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  Speaker 1: a show where a guy wakes up on Sunday and
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  Speaker 1: what would he laugh at. We had cartoons on that
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  Speaker 1: damn show because once once you get out of the
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  Speaker 1: pressure of okay at Sports Center six you gotta get
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  Speaker 1: a rating. We knew we were on Sunday morning, right,
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  Speaker 1: So once you're out of that space, all this freedom
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  Speaker 1: to just be goofy and funny, and I thought it
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  Speaker 1: was such a liberating fun show. It really was. What
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  Speaker 1: the best part about it was there were times where
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  Speaker 1: I would be sitting with you at the desk or
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  Speaker 1: what it would be sitting with you at the desk,
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  Speaker 1: or you would be doing your monologue, and people would
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  Speaker 1: just we would just start yelling at each other chat
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  Speaker 1: all either a comment. Like there were so many times
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  Speaker 1: where I would like say something to you about a game,
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  Speaker 1: and we had this segment where like you'd ask me,
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  Speaker 1: what are the wise guys thinking? And I tell you
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  Speaker 1: if you were right or wrong based on your premise,
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  Speaker 1: And like Wattle would just come in from left field
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  Speaker 1: with the strangest comments, as if like we were listening
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  Speaker 1: to him, as if we were sitting in someone's living room.
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  Speaker 1: Well it's it's the one thing I miss about doing
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  Speaker 1: local radio is that you could burn segments on just Goofiness.
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  Speaker 1: And now every segment I do, I mean it's charted graft,
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  Speaker 1: but that there's a number to it. It's sponsored, so
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  Speaker 1: it's a it's a bit reductive where you're doing the
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  Speaker 1: same kind of stuff and you have to talk about
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  Speaker 1: all the big brands Lebron Brady, NFL, n B A,
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  Speaker 1: but that there is a freedom when you're not when
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  Speaker 1: you're not playing in the big rating space, that you
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  Speaker 1: can just be fun and funds an important part of
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  Speaker 1: our business. Do you ever get sick of having to
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  Speaker 1: play in the big rating space? Well, I do find
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  Speaker 1: again the word I would use as a reductive, I
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  Speaker 1: do find that once you go to television and that's
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  Speaker 1: big boy business and I'm in a spot now where
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to get numbers. I'm I'm competing
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  Speaker 1: against the goliath. Um that I do the same topics
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  Speaker 1: over and over. It's my responsibility to make them as
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  Speaker 1: interesting as I can. But that's you know, you can't
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  Speaker 1: do lacrosse topics. You can't do uh top ten sports
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  Speaker 1: movie topics. And some of that is good, you need that.
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  Speaker 1: You can do that in local radio you can even
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  Speaker 1: do it and syndicated occasionally during the summer, but then
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  Speaker 1: you know it's just part and parcel. You want to
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  Speaker 1: you want to play in the bigger space. That's that's
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  Speaker 1: what you gotta do. You gotta talk about mostly the
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  Speaker 1: big stuff you've talked a lot about. I've heard you
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  Speaker 1: talked about this and it was brilliant constructing a show
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  Speaker 1: sort of like there's a tree that you're creating, and
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  Speaker 1: then there are sort of branches that come off of
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  Speaker 1: but you always sort of have that tree explain to people,
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  Speaker 1: like what your philosophy is there in My philosophy for
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  Speaker 1: twenty years has always been when a hurricane hits, the
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  Speaker 1: Weather Channel drops all the rest of its new its
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  Speaker 1: weather coverage. They talk about only the hurricane. Uh MSNBC
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  Speaker 1: only talks about Trump Um. Why do I have to
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  Speaker 1: talk about a bunch of stuff? It doesn't make any
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  Speaker 1: sense because when I go to a bar, a restaurant,
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  Speaker 1: a movie theater, at grocery store, nobody asked me about
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  Speaker 1: anything other than NFL, Lebron and major topics. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: a believer in you have to go into shows with
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  Speaker 1: two trees and the trunk is you know, Brady, if
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  Speaker 1: there's a controversy and the trunk of the tree is Lebron,
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  Speaker 1: it's my job to create branches off each But this
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  Speaker 1: idea that you can go into a show and have
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  Speaker 1: twelve topics. Those shows don't get ratings when Lebron goes
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  Speaker 1: to the Lakers. If he does, I'm gonna talk about
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  Speaker 1: that for three hours for three straight days. The key is,
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  Speaker 1: can I give you seven branches, seven unique angles on it?
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  Speaker 1: But you know, the Weather Channel never has to apologize
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  Speaker 1: for staying on storms box and MSNBC never apologized for
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  Speaker 1: staying on Trump. Why do I have to apologize because
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  Speaker 1: I don't cover regular season baseball, which nobody wants to
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  Speaker 1: talk about. So how much time do you have to
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  Speaker 1: spend thinking about what those seven branches are going to be?
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  Speaker 1: All day? It's my life. I do two and a
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  Speaker 1: half hours of prep every day, which is you know,
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  Speaker 1: three hours show two and half hours of prep. And
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  Speaker 1: I get in the car going home and keep a
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  Speaker 1: notepad with me at all times, and you know, two
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  Speaker 1: or three times during the course of the day, have
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  Speaker 1: something pops in my head, I write it down and um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't mean it's I'm obsessing about it.
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  Speaker 1: But I always keep a pen in my pocket or
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  Speaker 1: near me, so if something pops into my head and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's an interesting branch of that, but it's
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  Speaker 1: actually made my job easier over time because I don't
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  Speaker 1: cover forty eight college football teams. I keep my eyeing
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  Speaker 1: about eight, and I don't cover every NFL team. I
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  Speaker 1: keep my eye about ten. I keep my eye about
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  Speaker 1: six NBA teams and about twelve players. And it's an
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  Speaker 1: easier way to do it. And this this idea that
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  Speaker 1: you touch all the bases, it's just not true. Television
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  Speaker 1: is redundant in its repetition. That's just the reality of
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  Speaker 1: the business. That's what it is. Weather Channel, Fox, MSNBC.
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  Speaker 1: I think one of the problems with the ESPN now, Chad,
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  Speaker 1: they don't know what they are. Are you doing journalism?
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  Speaker 1: Are you doing opinion? Are you doing highlights it? Fox
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  Speaker 1: Sports one. We do strong opinions on a small number
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  Speaker 1: of topics and we should never apologize for Alright, So
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  Speaker 1: that is a great transition to gambling, because you and
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  Speaker 1: I have talked about this a bunch. Uh. You started
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  Speaker 1: doing gambling on your radio show long before anybody else
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  Speaker 1: was doing it, and you spoke about it. You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: make picks, You're gonna have people on who are going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about it. Um, then we did on the
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  Speaker 1: TV show, and you've continued to do it at at
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  Speaker 1: sort of in in your new role at Fox, your
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  Speaker 1: relatively new role. Um, what do you think happens to
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  Speaker 1: your show and what do you think happens to the
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  Speaker 1: media written lar when gambling becomes a much more popular thing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I have a theory on this, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna throw it to you. I think there's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes made. So even when I do
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  Speaker 1: Blazing five, I've always tried to make it entertaining. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be good TV before it's good gambling. Now
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  Speaker 1: I want to get my picks right. Don't get me wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go three and two or four and
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  Speaker 1: one every week, and I take pride. I've never been
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  Speaker 1: below fifty five. I did have one great year I
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  Speaker 1: was like sixty two, but I try to be in
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  Speaker 1: that fifty five and I feel very If I go
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  Speaker 1: three and two every week, I'm I think that's about
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  Speaker 1: as good as a schmuck like me can do. And
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  Speaker 1: I do my homework on the picks. But I think
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  Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of mistakes made. I think
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  Speaker 1: people are going to forget a tenant of television, even
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  Speaker 1: the Weather Channel. Okay, let's go to let's go to
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  Speaker 1: the Weather Channel. The most popular person on the Weather
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  Speaker 1: Channel Jim Cantori because he's the most entertaining, even on
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  Speaker 1: Fox News, which does harsh criticism. Bill O'Reilly was the
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  Speaker 1: most popular because the show had the most little goofy
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  Speaker 1: crazy things in it. Best word of the day, funny arguments.
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  Speaker 1: When you do these gambling shows, they've got to be
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  Speaker 1: good television first. Okay, don't give me numbers nerds, give
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  Speaker 1: me good TV people who who get the numbers, because
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  Speaker 1: the gamblers going to watch the stuff regardless. A golfer
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  Speaker 1: is gonna watch golf regardless when golf pops is, when
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  Speaker 1: they have Tiger, when they have a TV star. So
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  Speaker 1: when these shows come out, everybody's gonna be in the
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  Speaker 1: numb numbers. Numbers, numbers, number. The winner will be the
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  Speaker 1: the wildly entertaining TV personality who can figure out the
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  Speaker 1: numbers and talk so the layman can get it and
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  Speaker 1: guys like you can respect it. That will be the
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  Speaker 1: key in this space, not getting the hardcore numbers guy,
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  Speaker 1: getting the guy that's funny, smart and does get the numbers.
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  Speaker 1: And that's my belief ten years will look back. But
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  Speaker 1: the companies that go into really like you know, super uber,
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  Speaker 1: um heavy gaming expert. Over entertaining person who can talk gaming,
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  Speaker 1: they will lose. You still have to entertain people how long.
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  Speaker 1: I like. I like the theory. Um, I believe in
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  Speaker 1: the theory. I'm trying to execute on the theory with
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  Speaker 1: what we're doing on Action Network. And you're you know,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, everyone's listening to the podcast Action Network
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  Speaker 1: dot Com. Go to the Action Network, to the buffet
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  Speaker 1: page on iTunes. You subscribe, you rate, you review, you unsubscribe,
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  Speaker 1: you resubscribe. Let's push this puppy. That's all we can
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  Speaker 1: do is push. But yeah, I agree with you. It's
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  Speaker 1: what I've always believed when I was doing it at ESPN,
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  Speaker 1: and now that we're doing it here, we're hiring people
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  Speaker 1: who know how to translate and keep people and a
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  Speaker 1: team and educate. You know, we're putting cheese on the broccoli.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Well, that's why that's why
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  Speaker 1: our Sunday show works, because it was entertaining first and
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  Speaker 1: then give you a real, real data. We used to
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  Speaker 1: keep your picks to the end, so it was funny.
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  Speaker 1: It was goofy, we laughed. We had cartoons, yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: in the end we got this really smart guy, Chad,
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  Speaker 1: and even with the sense of humor, you gave us
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  Speaker 1: real data. And so you know. The other thing is
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  Speaker 1: I've always thought that I'm best served as a layers
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  Speaker 1: on between people like you who are really smart and
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  Speaker 1: the public. I don't want to be as First of all,
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't be as smart as you, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to be an expert in gambling. What I want
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  Speaker 1: to be is no enough. I want to be able
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  Speaker 1: to talk a little bit of your language. But I
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  Speaker 1: also when I talk to you, Chad, I want to
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  Speaker 1: say something that you go, God, that is such a
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  Speaker 1: that is such a mark. Because I gotta be a dope.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta be closer to be an a dope than
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  Speaker 1: an expert, because I am the public. I am the consumer.
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  Speaker 1: So when I would bring you on the show and
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  Speaker 1: there were five picks, in two of them You're like,
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  Speaker 1: that's really good, that's pretty good, and then two of them,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, who You're a mark, and then one
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  Speaker 1: of them. We can go back and forth. But I've
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  Speaker 1: always felt my job in this gambling stuff all be
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  Speaker 1: the mark. I want to be able to talk a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of gambling lexicon. But I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: become come across as expert because I don't think that's
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  Speaker 1: any fun for the consumer. In the audience they want
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  Speaker 1: to play. I want them to feel like they're kind
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  Speaker 1: of me, where they think they know a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more than they do, but they're certainly not an expert.
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  Speaker 1: I will say the most fun on the show is
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  Speaker 1: always when you would give me an opinion that I
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  Speaker 1: thought was just so awful, and I would tell you
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  Speaker 1: how awful it was. Your face and your eyes like
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  Speaker 1: would contort into this look and like a wattle would
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  Speaker 1: start yelling in the background, and also everyone in the
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  Speaker 1: control room would start yelling, and I'm like, I'm thinking, like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, that is a face that I don't
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  Speaker 1: think I could ever make. That's like a Jim Carey face, right,
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  Speaker 1: you know what? To me? The fun in it And
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  Speaker 1: I've been doing the blazon five things forever the fun gambling,
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  Speaker 1: which is really cool. I always learned something. I always
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  Speaker 1: learned something from a sharp. You're a sharp, and it's
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  Speaker 1: it's amazing my instincts. There's two I have two or
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  Speaker 1: three believes. The only sport I ever really care about
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  Speaker 1: betting would be NFL. I've got a few Bowl games,
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  Speaker 1: but mostly NFL, and I've always had two or three
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  Speaker 1: theories and they've served me well, Like when my first
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  Speaker 1: theory is if a team that was humiliated, if a
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  Speaker 1: team has a capable quarterback. I'm talking about you know,
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  Speaker 1: like about eight teen teams in the league, if they
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  Speaker 1: get humiliated on national TV, take them the next week.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's not college football where you get humiliated because
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  Speaker 1: you lack personnel. Teams are injured, teams aren't prepared, the
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  Speaker 1: game plan doesn't work. If a big band gets humiliated,
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  Speaker 1: if a Matt Ryan gets humiliated, always always look for
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  Speaker 1: that number the minute it comes out the following week,
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  Speaker 1: because the public sells very quickly on big TV games.
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  Speaker 1: If a team looks like clap On minding that football,
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  Speaker 1: the public is off them. But that team usually comes
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  Speaker 1: back and plays their ass off. So that's just been
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  Speaker 1: one of my goofie theories forever and it made mean nothing.
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  Speaker 1: But I have two or three little theories, and that's
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  Speaker 1: just one of them. You almost nailed the theory, You
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  Speaker 1: almost got it exactly right. A big team, the big
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  Speaker 1: team that gets killed on national television and you know
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  Speaker 1: the public is going to be betting against them, and
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  Speaker 1: you that you you got it almost there, and then
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  Speaker 1: at the very end you're like, and you know that
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  Speaker 1: team is going to come back strong because they got humiliated.
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  Speaker 1: That's not why you bet the team. You bet the
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  Speaker 1: team because the bookmakers are going to overcompensate because they
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  Speaker 1: know how they can set the line and they can
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  Speaker 1: fade that team in a way that makes it much
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  Speaker 1: more of an advantage for the sharp betters to bet
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  Speaker 1: on that team because the points press is not going
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  Speaker 1: to be as much value um on the on the
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  Speaker 1: favorite in that particular in that particular spot. That's why
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  Speaker 1: you do it. It's not because you think they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be remotivated. It's because the value is going to be
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  Speaker 1: in the point spread. It's price better. Let me think
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  Speaker 1: of my other big theory I use. That's one of
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  Speaker 1: the Oh, here's the other one is that um that's
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  Speaker 1: my first one. Look very hard at teams that got
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  Speaker 1: crushed the week before, as long as they have a
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  Speaker 1: capable quarterback. The second thing is there's always one really
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  Speaker 1: double digit line every week, and I immediately take it
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  Speaker 1: off the board. That's the one game I refused to bet.
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  Speaker 1: I just take it off the word because they're trap bets,
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  Speaker 1: and I hate betting a game where I know I
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  Speaker 1: have to root for an inferior product. I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to root for a thirteen point dog to hit a
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  Speaker 1: field goal late, so I always take the thirteen and
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  Speaker 1: a half point spread. I'm like, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: watch that game, and I don't want to have to
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  Speaker 1: ever ever watch a crappy team hopefully cover back door.
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  Speaker 1: So my two rules, take a good team that gets
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  Speaker 1: smoked and just take the big double diget number and
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  Speaker 1: throw it away. Now that's a bad because the truth
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  Speaker 1: is the underdog historically generally covers over twelve points. Right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that would be the first. I bet some much of
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  Speaker 1: the one. I always find it as a trap bet.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I gave you like a golden nugget
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  Speaker 1: to elevate your first theory, and you're just glossed over
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  Speaker 1: and moved down to the second one. Is if I
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  Speaker 1: is if I hadn't even said anything. It's like I
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  Speaker 1: didn't even get involved in the conversation. No, your first
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  Speaker 1: your first one was right. I consumed your take and
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  Speaker 1: you were right, and I just promptly moved in segue
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  Speaker 1: to a second take. I didn't belittle it, but I
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  Speaker 1: simply consumed it and acknowledge that your your acumens much
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  Speaker 1: greater than mine. I appreciate the consumption I do. The
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  Speaker 1: second one is interesting because you're right, You're only like
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  Speaker 1: to me, those are always the games that I look
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  Speaker 1: at first, Like, I'm going to look at that double
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  Speaker 1: digit spread. I'm gonna see that even though it's a
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  Speaker 1: double digit spread, of the money is still going to
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  Speaker 1: come in on that favorite, and I am absolutely going
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  Speaker 1: to bet on that double digit dog. It's like, for years,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: you know, we used to talk about this show, and
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: like every single week we would do this on the show,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: we would talk about the Jaguars. The Jaguars are twelve
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: point underdogs today, the Jaguars are too touched on underdogs today,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: And every single week you'd be like, how can I
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: take the Jaguars. I'm like, everybody who's a wise guy
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: is taking the Jaguars because historically that's where the value
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: is going to be. That's just it's covering two touchdowns
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: in the NFL is a really hard thing to do.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: It's like covering twenty eight points in college football. Yeah,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: but then I have stuck watching Blake Bortles three years
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: ago trying to beat Pittsburgh. I just hate watching that.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: It's another reason I don't butt underdogs in college football.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I hate rooting for crap. I hate having my money
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: on crap. That's my dad's stockbroker advice. I don't. I
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: like buying excellence, I like watching excellence. I hate betting
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: on crap and hoping crap is just good enough to cover.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I hate that. But I think that is a particular
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: mindset of yours as someone who you like sports, but
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: you are also practical, and you think about everything we
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: do from a consumerism perspective and as a product. Right
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: the way you frame your shows, whether it's television or radio,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: all of the businesses that you're invested in, um you
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: think about it's a very clear sort of consumer service
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: oriented relationship. So you think to yourself, I wouldn't put
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: on crap. No one's gonna want crap from me. So
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: it disgusted you to have to to have to put
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: forth effort to watch crap or potentially lose money on crap.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I think that is a that is an entire sort
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: of you are offended by that sensibility. That's right. That
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: doesn't make it a smart betting move. It's just that
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: is my You know, my mom said something to meet
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: thirty years ago by my dad. She said, your dad's
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: not really and I don't even know where this came from,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: but she goes, your dad's not really a quantity guy.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: He's a quality guy. And she said, your dad had
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: three suits. They were gorgeous. He never believed in having
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: ten average suits. And we just got into the discussion.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: She goes, your dad had three cars in his life.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: He lived to seventy, He had three cars in his life.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: He was never Your dad believed in spartan furniture, one
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: nice house, couple of nice suits. He wasn't a big consumer.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: He just believed in, you know, go on to vacations
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: a year that are great, not for that our average.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: And so I think I got that a little bit
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: from my dad. I'm not a stuff guy, like you know.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: A prime example is I never I try not to
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: go on Twitter too much and except forward to down
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: to um retweet stuff. I've already done edited versions of
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: my TV show or radio show because I think I
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: don't think most consumers are on Twitter. My friends aren't
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: on Twitter. The media is, so I think it's just
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of noise with very little impact, so I
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: try to stay out. I always believe simple in a
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: more complicated world, simplicity makes me happier. Like the world
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: offers you a million choices, that's just more anxiety. I
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: still have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich four days
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: a week when I go home after work, Like some would,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: the more complicated the world gets, the simpler I get
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: peanut butter and jelly every I mean, I just it's
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: the same crap everybody. Oh, I gotta kale this, and
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I gotta kale that. I've never eaten fewer things than
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I eat now, and there's never been more choices. I think,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: all I all. I think choices equal anxiety, and I
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: don't like anxiety, so I I talk fewer topics. I
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: eat eight to twelve things on a repeat basis. I
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: go to by the way. I have a vacation home.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I mostly go to it only uh maybe one exception
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: a year. My life it gets simpler the more stuff
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I have around me. I don't even know how I
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: got off in of this tangent, but that's how I
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: don't even know where. This is just the way that
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: my show is. I just start rambling. I don't even
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. What else? What else are
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: you eating other than peanut butter and jelly? I have
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: oatmeal every morning with peanut butter and a kale shake.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: So do I, by the way, on peanut butter every day. Ye.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I have a soup for lunch, mostly beans. I have
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: a piece of fish or a piece of meat every
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: night with a salad, one cocktail, watch a little sports bed,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: rinse and repeat. That's my life. That's I'm a very
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: boring guy. Occasionally this this I'm I'm I'm a very
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: boring born. I'd be a terrible There's a lot of
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: jobs i'd be terrible at. You're at the pinnacle of
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: your career. This is when you should be going out
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: blowing it all. Like your kids are getting older. You've
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: like got a nice, comfortable life. You should not be
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: living the life sort of a monastic lifestyle. I know,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: but I see myself. Um listen, I'm not gonna say um,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I've never fantasized about wild, crazy lifestyle things, but that's
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: just not who I am. It's just not my d
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: n A. So. And I also think you start, uh,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: you start believing the hype fly in private, you start
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: going to bougie and I think you lose yourself. And
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: so I tell my wife this all the time. Is
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to be private.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be this this, this, I be
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: among the people, relate to people. Media. People make a
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: lot of money. They put big fences up. I have
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: neighbors jammed all over me. I'm at the dog park
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: every morning. Um. I think you can lose yourself very
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: easily the richer you get, because the richer you get
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: to let you know, you can have people do stuff
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: for you. Like I go to the grocery store every
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: day every day. I know people that don't refuse to
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: go to the grocery store. I'm gonna have it delivered.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I want to go there every day. Again. I don't
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: even know how why I'm talking about this. I'm just
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: talking wheel is not going to buy itself, you know
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Okay, I got my wife's texted me here,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: you got anything else? Moment? Yeah, I actually have the
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: actual question, which is like, all right, if you played
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: the segment you bet your life. You talked about your dad.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I know how important like family was to you growing up.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: What was the biggest ricks you took in your life?
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: And what happened? I left college early? Uh that twelve
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: credit shy um. I got the phone call. I went
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: to the baseball win our meetings, got home and the
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Las Vegas stars Don Logan called me and said, do
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: you want a job? And I looked at my mom
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: and I said, I'm twelve credit shy. What should I do?
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: And she said, I'm not going to tell you. She
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: said You're going to tell yourself what to do. And
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I left without a degree, and it was the best
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: move I ever made. I bet on myself. I didn't
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: think I was going to get that opportunity to go
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: from college to a Triple A announcing job. I mean,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: guys are in this business ten years before they get
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: to Triple A baseball. And it was the best Triple
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: A city. It was Vegas. So I bet on myself
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: and I said, I'm gonna leave college early twelve goot
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: a shy, and I'm gonna go sell minor league baseball
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do an inning of play by play,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: and I just bet on myself and it was the
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: best move I ever made. I parlayed that new a
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: TV job, I parlayed that into a TV career in
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: a radio career, and um and I it really came
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: down to a very simple thing. I just didn't think
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I would get that good of an offer at my
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: age and my lack of experience, and I thought, I
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: can always go back to college. Las Vegas is never
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: gonna offer me a triple a play by play job.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: This is usually end up in like Amarillo or Midland, Texas.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I gotta go for it. And it was
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: a big risk, Like a lot of people like, what
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: are you doing? You don't have a degree, and I
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: was like, dude, I can get a degree later. I
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: can't get the Vegas job later. And it turned out
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: to be some of my best friends were in that town,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I I don't I don't consider
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: myself a huge risk taker, but that was a well
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I would say you are a huge mistaker because when
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: is the next time you didn't bet on yourself that
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: You're like, that was a screw up. I should have
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: totally done that. I think it it it did something
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: to me. It gave me confidence. And at the time
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I didn't have a ton It was just a goofy
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: college kid and I didn't really know what I was doing.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: And then when I succeeded, there's a domino effect like, hey,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I can do this again. And I did it about
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: four or five more times in my life where you know,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: like I left ESPN. They offered me a bunch of money.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: It was the big network, and I went to a
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: startup and it's been great, And so I think the
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: more times you can succeed, it's like almost like playing
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: the US opening golf. You want to start really good
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: on Thursday, because it lends itself to a good Friday,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: a good Saturday. If you really go into the tank
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: on it, you're shooting nine over on Thursday, you're screwed.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: And I'm a big believer in momentum, and it gave
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: me kind of life professional momentum that it's been going
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: ever since. Well, I know what it's like to leave
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: ESPN to go work at a startup. Yeah, but by
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: the way, when you start kicking by here in your
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: old r you'll this will not be the last place
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: in the world you work. My wife always telling me that. Now.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: She's like, you're a young fifty four. She goes, you
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: think it's seventy four, you're gonna be doing the herd.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: She goes, probably not. And I'm like, yeah, you're right,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: probably not. You're just gonna be hanging out in your house,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: eating no meal and kale all day, wondering, wondering maybe
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I should have been on those underdogs because I have
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: so much more money. All Right, Milman, I gotta get
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: out of here. I gotta go and prep for another
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: one of the shows I'm on. All right, Thanks for
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: coming on, brother, I'll talk to you later. Chad Mellmann.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen support his causes. Goodbye,