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Chris and Angelo · Day Drinking With Dog

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Drive Home Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Chris Mercurio, and I have the pleasure
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  Speaker 1: of doing a crossover show today. NFL is upon us,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm being joined, and I'm joining Day Drinking With
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  Speaker 1: Dog with Jeremy Wells and Angelo Rossi is in the
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  Speaker 1: house as well. What's up, boys?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back. Day Drinking With Dog is in the house
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  Speaker 2: with Angelo Rossi. He is, you love him, you hate him,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes you want to punch him. But he's one of
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  Speaker 2: my best drinking buddies, even though we don't drink enough together. Ange, Chris,
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  Speaker 2: thanks for coming on the show. We're doing this little
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  Speaker 2: crossover thing.
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  Speaker 3: I like doing these.
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  Speaker 1: I do, too. We have fun with it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So before we get into our NFL picks.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, wait. Angelo's got to say what's up.
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  Speaker 4: Angelo, what's going on?
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  Speaker 3: I said what's up. We've got to turn.
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  Speaker 4: You're not very shy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's shy.
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  Speaker 2: He's only on his half a Viva and a sip
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  Speaker 2: of Jack Fire so far.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: He won't shut up at the end. He will be
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  Speaker 2: like fucking fired up. especially when we give our Patriots records.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I said. I felt like Pesci and Goodfellas
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  Speaker 4: walking in the room. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I thought you were going to be standing on the stairs,
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  Speaker 2: taking them out. And we had the, I should have
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  Speaker 2: laid down like a little fucking plastic on the floor.
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  Speaker 3: When he walked in.
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  Speaker 4: He's the best.
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  Speaker 2: Um, but I think before we get into football, it
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  Speaker 2: may be a little Clancy, uh, Scott Peterson, uh, at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the show, we'll finish with that a
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  Speaker 2: little off topic of sports, but, uh, We're all friendly
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  Speaker 2: Red Sox fans. And it's been one hell of a
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  Speaker 2: fucking year. It just kind of started out in the hole.
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  Speaker 2: Could never get out of it. Fired the manager.
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  Speaker 3: Still sucked. Still sucked.
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  Speaker 2: And then, boom, 15-game winning streak, 9-game winning streak. Pitching
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  Speaker 2: was unbelievable. Hitting was never really that great, but we
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  Speaker 2: always got the timely hit. And they saved our summer,
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  Speaker 2: I like to say.
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  Speaker 4: And here we are.
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  Speaker 2: We're in September. They got a Five and a half
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  Speaker 2: leads still, I think, on the next one.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe six. I think it is.
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  Speaker 3: Somewhere in that range.
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  Speaker 4: And here we are.
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  Speaker 2: We got our asses beaten in New York. But, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that happens. We beat their ass in Fenway. We're on
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  Speaker 2: a collision course again to meet in the playoffs. Should
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  Speaker 2: we not choke this away? But I do feel that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we were texting the other day. What is
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  Speaker 2: their rotation? I feel like they have an eight-man rotation.
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  Speaker 4: And then there's always a mystery guy like, wow, who
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  Speaker 4: is this guy?
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  Speaker 3: The guy Pia is the other day.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like, okay. I know.
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  Speaker 1: His major league debut and he was thrown to the walls.
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  Speaker 4: And it was so great because the commentators were like, well,
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  Speaker 4: because we got lit up that game. And the commentators
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  Speaker 4: were like, well, don't worry about it. We'll never see
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  Speaker 4: him again anyways back in the minors. This is what, like,
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  Speaker 4: rotationally the winner, we shoot you back down.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But as this season, we were talking about this season,
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  Speaker 4: we were at opening day. That feels like a lifetime ago.
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  Speaker 2: We were 1-5 going into opening day.
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  Speaker 3: And a funny thing, I was going through my photos
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  Speaker 3: the other day. The division was 5-1.
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  Speaker 2: Four and two three and three two and four one
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  Speaker 2: and five it was like one two three four five
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  Speaker 2: five four three two one it was just weird i've
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  Speaker 2: never seen it like that i took a picture of
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  Speaker 2: it i posted it but we won that game and
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  Speaker 2: then we lost like yeah and then we just fucking.
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  Speaker 4: Because yeah we opening day was crochet we were pumped
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  Speaker 4: one and oh he struggled i think a little bit
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  Speaker 4: more than we had seen up to that point and
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  Speaker 4: then we lose three in a row then we we
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  Speaker 4: went i remember we were sitting on Thanks to your connection,
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  Speaker 4: we're sitting on a rooftop bar next to watching all
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  Speaker 4: the people leave Fenway. And we're like, we're fucking back.
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  Speaker 4: We're so fucking back. It was a thing. We're back.
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  Speaker 4: And then we lost the next 10.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they started, but Tracy took over. They were 10
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  Speaker 1: and 17. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Now, is he the manager? Getting ahead of ourselves?
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  Speaker 4: We missed the playoffs. Is he a manager?
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  Speaker 2: I doubt they do anything until they figure out what's
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  Speaker 2: going on next year. Why would they give him a contract?
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  Speaker 1: You know what's sad? I kind of agree with that.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost like Henry's like, I don't have to pay
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  Speaker 1: him yet, so what do I care? Do you know
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  Speaker 1: he lives in a hotel in Boston?
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  Speaker 3: Tracy? Or Henry?
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  Speaker 4: Manny used to do that. Manny did that too, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Manny rented a fucking luxury penthouse.
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  Speaker 4: Now he walks around and he makes me fucking sick.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think... I don't think Chad Tracy's making Manny money, though,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't think he's.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 1: But honestly, to answer Angelo's question, just fucking take the
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  Speaker 1: interim thing off. Like, just give him the job. Right. Like,
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  Speaker 1: he's earned it.
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  Speaker 3: And tell him, you know, give him a little bump.
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  Speaker 3: You don't have to announce it. And then fucking say,
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  Speaker 3: we'll sign you in the offseason.
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  Speaker 4: You want him.
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  Speaker 3: Now I do. Yeah, absolutely. Why not?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we haven't seen runs like this in fucking
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  Speaker 2: our lifetime with this team.
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  Speaker 4: We missed the playoffs, which would be ugly. It doesn't
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  Speaker 4: choke away that many games. Do you still want him? Yes. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I like him. He looks, you know what I always say?
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  Speaker 3: He looks the part.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. And also baseball, I feel like it's tough.
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  Speaker 4: You can get a bunch of NFL coaches. They're easier
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  Speaker 4: in college. I feel like successful baseball managers are harder. Right.
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  Speaker 3: And he has his dad to lean on, who was
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  Speaker 3: a great manager, manager of the year. Jim Tracy. So
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  Speaker 3: it's like, I have no problem with it. Who else
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  Speaker 3: is out there?
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  Speaker 4: You read my mind. You have Mattingly.
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  Speaker 3: We don't want him in Boston anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, do we all assume that Cora's going
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  Speaker 1: to take the Phillies job?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I thought he would already have taken it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, unless they fucking go on a run with Mattingly.
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  Speaker 4: I heard it was anything outside of a World Series run.
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  Speaker 4: They missed the World Series.
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  Speaker 1: I can see that.
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  Speaker 2: Now, if we make the playoffs, which I think we're fine. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we could collapse. But, you know, other teams
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  Speaker 2: have to win, too, if we do collapse. But if
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  Speaker 2: we make it and we, you know, either lose 2-0
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  Speaker 2: or 2-1 like we did last year, the Yankees, is
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  Speaker 2: that– is it a failed season again?
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  Speaker 3: Or is the turnaround something to.
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  Speaker 4: Anytime you lose to the Yankees, it's failed. Agreed.
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  Speaker 3: Well, actually, Angelo made a good point before we came on.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they're only three games behind Tampa, so we
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  Speaker 2: could play Tampa.
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  Speaker 4: I would love to play Tampa and shock them and
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  Speaker 4: then go the distance with the Yankees because I don't
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  Speaker 4: think they have it. They go one game with eight runs,
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  Speaker 4: and then they score fucking one each of the next four.
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  Speaker 4: I don't fear that. I think Cam, we let him
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  Speaker 4: off the hook every fucking time, and he's got this
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  Speaker 4: great record. It's like, oh, 16 wins on even Tuesdays.
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  Speaker 4: He's the greatest Yankee pitcher ever. I just don't... I
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  Speaker 4: think we just let him off the hook so bad.
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  Speaker 2: I tell you, though, our lineup now, like when healthy,
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  Speaker 2: like playoff lineup, you know, Roman doesn't get hurt next week.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you got fucking Rushman now. I know he's
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  Speaker 2: not a huge average hitter, but he's a power threat.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Bray's had a great year. You know, Contreras
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  Speaker 2: is back in five days. Whatever you want to say
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  Speaker 2: about story, but Raphael is always kind of a clutch guy.
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  Speaker 2: You know, and you got some of these guys, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Mickey Gasper can come.
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  Speaker 3: In and pitch hit.
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  Speaker 4: Where did he come from?
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  Speaker 3: Dude, I don't know. God sent.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you got Durbin, too. Durbin, who had turned
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  Speaker 2: his year. He was batting, what, like 100, and now
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  Speaker 2: he's like 240.
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  Speaker 4: I love it. Do you listen to Hogwash, that Hogwash guy?
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  Speaker 3: Hogdale or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Hogdale. When he was at the beginning of the year
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  Speaker 4: with Durbin, he was all over him, and he's turned
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  Speaker 4: it completely around. It looks good now in trade.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny. So we start off terrible, right? Worst Red
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  Speaker 1: Sox record ever. And then all of a sudden we
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  Speaker 1: start to win games. And then they announced that they
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  Speaker 1: fired driveline. Durbin went out and had to find his
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  Speaker 1: own personal hitting coach. And then he turned it around.
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  Speaker 1: But I think, I mean, I just think like at
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  Speaker 1: the end of this, where we started firing the manager,
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  Speaker 1: worst Red Sox was like, it was the end of
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  Speaker 1: the June or it was like worst Red Sox record
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  Speaker 1: ever end of May or something. And then, and, And
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  Speaker 1: then we go on this run, like, is it a
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  Speaker 1: fail if we don't beat the Yankees? In our minds, yeah.
• 7:36
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you just don't want to listen to it
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  Speaker 3: more than anything else.
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  Speaker 1: But aren't we already a success at this point from
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  Speaker 1: where we were?
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  Speaker 4: If we get to the playoffs, if we had the
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  Speaker 4: exact same place we got last year and we lose
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  Speaker 4: to the Yankees in the first round of the wild card,
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  Speaker 4: I think with the injuries that we had and the cutback,
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  Speaker 4: absolutely I think it was a success. Right. But if
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  Speaker 4: somehow we choke away a six-game wild card lead now,
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  Speaker 4: Coming down the stretch. It's like, what the fuck?
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  Speaker 2: But I give, I hate to do it, but I
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  Speaker 2: give the Yankees some credit, too. They've been doing this
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  Speaker 2: without a judge. You know, Freed was out for a while.
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  Speaker 3: No standing. Cole was out.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, this Cam fucker's been great. I
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  Speaker 2: hate to admit it, but he's probably going to win
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: Cy Young. You know, they don't really have a closer,
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  Speaker 2: per se, that's really that good. I mean, but they've
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: been winning games, you know.
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  Speaker 4: That's all they do.
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  Speaker 3: But the thing is, they won early. They won early.
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  Speaker 4: We didn't.
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  Speaker 2: So we had to dig out of a hole. I
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  Speaker 2: think we have more character than they do. Just character
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: play in the playoffs. Maybe one game, not all three.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we're going to have to hit. Bottom line,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to have to hit.
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  Speaker 4: You can't go out and do what you did last week.
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  Speaker 3: If our bats get shut down, then forget it. We're
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  Speaker 3: not going to fucking win.
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  Speaker 4: And then a game like last Friday where one inning
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  Speaker 4: you have second and third or first and second, and
• 8:47
  Speaker 4: then you get nothing. They get out of it. Pace
• 8:49
  Speaker 4: is loaded. They get out of it. We can't have that.
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  Speaker 3: All right, I'll ask you both. No crochet. What's the
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  Speaker 3: starting three in the order?
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  Speaker 1: Angelo, you can go first.
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  Speaker 4: Do you go gray?
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  Speaker 1: One.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like drawing a blank.
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 4: So you got Tully.
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  Speaker 3: You got gray. You got Ranger Suarez.
• 9:13
  Speaker 4: You got Bennett. No, it's between Tully and gray.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Chris. Sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going Tully, gray, Suarez. That's my three.
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  Speaker 3: Lefty, righty, lefty.
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  Speaker 4: It's the order I'm putting them in. That's where I struggle.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 4: See, I struggle between them.
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  Speaker 1: I go Tully first. If he goes out there and
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: throws a gem and is, like, screaming up and down
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  Speaker 1: like he does, like, playing the way he does and
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  Speaker 1: gives us a boost in game one, then we got
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  Speaker 1: a guy coming in at game two that's won 17
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  Speaker 1: games and Suarez is, what, like 11-1 in the playoffs?
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  Speaker 1: I think you start with Tully because I think it
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  Speaker 1: sets the tone.
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  Speaker 4: The problem with Tully for me is he can't go
• 9:52
  Speaker 4: out and throw a dud.
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  Speaker 3: Right, now you're chasing him.
• 9:54
  Speaker 4: He did it last week, and now you're chasing him.
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  Speaker 4: He could let off six runs real easy in Yankee Stadium.
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: You know, now Judge is assumedly back, and that's fucking
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: lefty against righty.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Tolley, and I love Tolley. I love everything about him. No,
• 10:07
  Speaker 4: and he's still young.
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  Speaker 3: He hasn't even played a full NFL season.
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  Speaker 4: It's going to be Yankee Stadium in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: Or do you put the older gray out there, one
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: that you know is not going to get crushed. He'll
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: give up a couple runs. But he's professional, and you're
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: going to have to hit.
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  Speaker 4: He's been there before.
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  Speaker 3: Because they're going to come with Schittler in game one.
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: He's been booed by them. They're going to come Schittler
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: in game one, Cole, and then Freed probably, right?
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Warren will probably hit, so I don't know if they'll
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: mess with him. But I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: It's interesting.
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  Speaker 3: This is where Chad Tracy earns his money, though.
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But it's interesting, too, because, like, who's back by then?
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: As we're recording here, I'm seeing all these headlines come through,
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: my Twitter headlines. Oh, sorry, my ex-headlines. Just said Tannehawk's
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: starting a rehab in Portland. So is he going to pitch?
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: Crochet's starting a rehab pitch.
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  Speaker 4: Funny one.
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: Actually, Jeremy and I texted about this, I mean, like
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: a week and a half ago. Johan Oviedo. Yeah. Jeremy's like,
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: I forgot about that guy.
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: And forgot about Curtis Mead.
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It just said that he's starting to rehab.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Well, what if Mead comes back? What are
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: we doing?
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  Speaker 4: Geez. Yeah. I mean, did Mead ever play? He got
• 11:25
  Speaker 4: hurt on the same day.
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  Speaker 3: He had one first game. He broke his finger.
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: Hit by a pitch.
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  Speaker 1: First at bat. Broke his wrist.
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: Now he's a second baseman? Is that where he would play?
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: So who's our second baseman now? Every day.
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: Like Sogard, I think.
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  Speaker 3: And Sogard's one of Tracy's boys.
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: I know, and also they got Kyner Falefa as well.
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, fuck him.
• 11:44
  Speaker 4: Get him out of there.
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: I know, but they love him for some reason.
• 11:48
  Speaker 3: I do love our defense, though.
• 11:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Durbin's awesome at third. Contreras is great at first. Sogard
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: plays a solid second.
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: Base as easy.
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: If you get bad sick, it makes me fucking dumb.
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: You know who's the only one that makes me nervous fielding?
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: It's Durant. He's been decent, but one Yankee fan tells
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: him he should kill himself, and he's gone for the season.
• 12:14
  Speaker 4: See, you've always liked Durant a little bit more than
• 12:16
  Speaker 4: we have.
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  Speaker 3: No, I have.
• 12:18
  Speaker 4: No, you, I didn't want, I would have traded Durant
• 12:20
  Speaker 4: two years ago.
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  Speaker 3: No, so would he.
• 12:22
  Speaker 4: Oh, you're the guy. I'm sorry. I thought you, okay.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: No, Angelo, I said it the day the season ended.
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: I said, you trade him right now because he will
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: never have more value than he does right now.
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: Fucked it up. Right after the All-Star game, home run
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: he hit.
• 12:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, that's my vested interest. I bought that $ 400.
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: I got five bottles of them.
• 12:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a $ 400 autograph for that 16x10. We
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: bought it spring training.
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: Dude, Chris, you should have seen fucking Angelo. This bitch
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: was so mad. It was one of those, was it
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: silent auction? Yeah, it was a silent auction. So she
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: put in like three and a quarter, and we're all
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: fucking drunk with our kids. And fucking he's like, fuck that.
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not losing this bitch.
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: He goes up there. Writes $ 400 down. She goes over there.
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: She just shakes her head. She's like, you fucking kidding me?
• 13:08
  Speaker 4: And she walks away.
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: That's how you take it home, man.
• 13:10
  Speaker 4: She was just so nasty that I'm like, I don't
• 13:12
  Speaker 4: even fucking want this thing. But it's in Arthur's room.
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: Then he paid like $ 75 to ship it home.
• 13:18
  Speaker 4: Could have got a ball like a normal human being.
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: Those silent auctions, though, man.
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: When you're drinking and you go over there, you're like,
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: there's so much. Like Ted Williams autograph shit.
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: It's fucking awesome.
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: You're going to love that.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: What was the Ortiz one they had?
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: Remember that one?
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the 13 This Is Our City, right?
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 13:38
  Speaker 4: But the silent auctions are bad because you're going over there,
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: you put it down, you kid around, then you get
• 13:43
  Speaker 4: your first beer. Oh, see how silent auctions do it.
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: Put another name. Then when you're eight deep or whatever,
• 13:47
  Speaker 4: that's how you put $ 400 on.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: All right, so how far can this team go before
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: we switch to NFL?
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: Do you want to go, Angelo? Angelo, you go first.
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: This team? I think the playoffs.
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, how far in the playoffs? Assuming they make
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: the playoffs, how far?
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: I'd like to think we go to the ALCS. Okay.
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: With the ceiling, obviously, of the World Series.
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: Now, the World Series, I'm torn. I understand if you
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: make it, but I don't want to see us get
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: killed by the Dodgers.
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, it could be the Brewers. It could be
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: the Phillies. Atlanta's playing good. I mean, the Dodgers are
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers, but.
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: It's baseball, man.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: They went fucking, what, seven games last year with Toronto
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: and seven games with the Yankees before that.
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: Like, this team, if, say, greatest scenario in all the
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: stars line, and we somehow won the World Series, this
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: team is more of an underdog than 13 by a mile.
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: And 13, to me, was like, 13 came out of nowhere.
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: That came, yeah, we weren't expecting anything that year. And
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: even less this year.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: I was at game two that year. I think this
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: might be a home run.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: They were predicted to finish last in the division.
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, because I remember Chris Sacco read the tweets.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: Johnny Gomes.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: David Ross.
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: Jared Sotomayor.
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: Will Middlebrooks. Come on. Can't leave Will out.
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: Jared Sotomayor.
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: I met Shane Victorino on the cruise I was on
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: in February. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: He's short, right?
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, he's tiny. I'm bigger than him. Taller than him.
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: Obviously, I'm bigger than him. He's skinny.
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: That was a Saturday night. I remember we were laying
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: on the couch and he hit that fucking.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: I was working at Stonebridge and he hit that grand slam.
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: And then I woke up.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: That was the ALCS though, right? That wasn't the World Series,
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: was it?
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: No, that was the ALCS.
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: And then the World Series?
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: The World Series, he hit that three-run triple off the monster.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's what I'm talking about. He is right. And
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: then Poppy was the ALCS when he hit his grunt against...
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: Off Detroit? Yeah.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: The fucking legs in the air?
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: I woke up just as.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: I was with Kara then. In Vermont.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: Is she listening? Maybe. Who knows?
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: She may listen to every fucking show I do. I
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: have no idea. A lot of my exes, you know,
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: they get a little jealous because I'm a fucking radio star.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: Because we're a super sports podcast.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they wish they married me and I could fucking
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: give them. When we get divorced, they get half of
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: my fucking $ 5 I make a show.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: Mine are wondering if the restraining order is still valid.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: I think I'm just one of those things.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: I think baseball is one of the sports where anything
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: can happen in the playoffs, like hockey.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: So I'm not saying they're going to win the World Series.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're going to make it, but it's
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: fucking more possible than fucking a shitty team in the
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: NBA playoffs making the finals or an NFL team that
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: just is a wild card team that just, you know,
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: is going to win the Super Bowl. Obviously, the Giants
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: did it twice against us, but, you know, it does
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: happen every once in a while, but I think baseball
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: is more, you know, you get hot, you get into
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: a picture, and you start.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: One game's... A fluke. I'm not saying it was a fluke.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: They beat us. They definitely deserved to win. But in
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: one game, a fluke thing happened.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Anything can happen on any given Sunday. Right, right.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Because, yeah, I mean, you take your Super Bowls.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: They have done that three more times or two more times,
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: probably not. The Giants. No. Saying it was a five-game set. No,
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: they fucking.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: I think the next season, after each Super Bowl win,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: they were like fucking 6-10.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: And Eli's throwing 40 fucking picks.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: They've only made the playoff once since they beat us
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: in 11.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: It's something like that.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: And it's going to be a while longer. I know
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: they think we'll get into it, I'm sure, but I
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: don't think.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: This is the year. Yeah, let's do a little giant
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: talk because I'm with you, Ang.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Everyone's so high on this, but everyone's fucking, first of all,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: injury prone.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Every single one of the big three.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: Scadable is like a mascot.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: I was talking at work today. Scadable should be a linebacker.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: He's in the wrong position. The way he plays, go
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: fucking tackle people. You won't get hurt as much.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: And Dart, I mean, even the preseason, it's like Goldberg
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: out there.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I was at the Patriots game last year when he
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: got fucking cranked out of bounds.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. That was fucking glorious.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: Listen, I won't. The Giants are my favorite team right
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: now because they did get us, Fernando. They did. If
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: they had just fucking come out and lost.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Well, Chad Ryland against the Giants is what got us
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Drake May.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, true.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: We haven't decided if that's a curse yet.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we made a Super Bowl, Ang. Last time you
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: made a Super Bowl, what was that, 2002?
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: 2002.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: All right, well, let's get into our football preview.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Hold on, I didn't get to make my baseball pick.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, fuck, my bad. I jumped the shark on that,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: my bad.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: That's okay. Obviously, the World Series is the dream, but
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I think our ceiling is probably ALCS. But if we
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: lost in the ALDS, it wouldn't surprise me either. I
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: think we can beat the Yankees. But another thing, real quick,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: and we're going to have to go under deep with it,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: but when you build your team around pitching and defense,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: guys throw a lot of innings. So we got guys
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: throwing fastballs that are three miles an hour less than
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: they are at the beginning of the season and stuff.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: So it worries me, but I think ALCS is our ceiling.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: See.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: It just dawned on me now. Who's going to beat
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: us if we... All right, so say we beat the Yankees, right?
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: We're the third best team in the league, record-wise, aren't we?
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I think we are.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: We're up there.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Because the fucking AL Central and the AL West are
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: fucking garbage.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: But wait, who's... The whole AL sucks.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: It would be the White Sox. Right. Are the Twins
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: fucking around? Are the Twins around?
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all kind of hovering around 500.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: The Orioles.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: The West is Houston hovering around fucking.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's the worst division.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Seattle hovering.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: And you get to play the fucking A's. So really,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: our two opponents are Yankees or Tampa. We're going to
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: have to play one of them in the first round.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: So we get past that. Like, really, we only have
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: one other team to beat.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Right? Yeah. It's weak.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: It's such a weak AL this year.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Well, you look at all the other divisions. The White
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Sox are kind of a cool story because they were
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: the young team, whatever. But they're, I mean, do you
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: fear them?
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: I think we've just all talked ourselves into World Series.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: We're going to the World Series. No, I'm fucking kidding.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: And what's it at right now? Do we know the
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: odds today? No.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: The longer we talk. Plus fucking, I would say 5,000.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: No way.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: The longer we talk.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: I mean 500.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: To win or go? Go.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Plus 2,000. How about that? What is it? Hold on.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: The longer we talk, we can talk ourselves into a freebie.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: You said just to go? Yeah.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Make the World Series.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Win the ALCS.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: League winners.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Plus 550. All right. The World Series....
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't bet those odds. Those aren't high enough.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Oh, me too. The World Series is higher. Obviously, it's
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: plus 1,300 to win.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: To win the World Series? I don't even think that's
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: fucking play.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: What?
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: I don't think. I wouldn't play that either.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: No, it sucks.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: No, it sucks.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: That's a five-game parlay. Oh, man. I mean, it's not. Right.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: So now we'll go to NFL.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: NFL.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Let's do it.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: So the season starts. I guess we'll start with the
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Pats because the season starts Wednesday. We are in Seattle.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Rematch of the Super Bowl. I am not confident in
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: this game one bit.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Drake May hasn't taken a snap.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: A.J.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Brown hasn't taken a snap.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I do put some weight into these scrimmages against other
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: pro teams like the Eagles and whatnot. But I just
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: don't think there's any rhythm and timing in an actual
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: real NFL game.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: And I could honestly see.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Us getting fucking bone stopped in this fucking game worse
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: than the Super Bowl that Seattle is an awful place
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: to play as a road team. I don't think there's
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: going to be any indication of how our season goes.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I just think it's one of those games that. You know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Angelo's going to be texting us, ha, ha, ha, sell
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: your May cards. You lost last opening day.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: We lost to the Raiders last year. You turned it around,
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: so I can't block that statement.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: So, Angelo, what's your thoughts on opening night?
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: The Seattle? I think you're going to lose. I don't
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: think it's going to be a bloodbath.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: I'm worried about it.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: Seattle lost their best coach. Yep. So, my gosh.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: And they're running back.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: And they're running back. And then.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: MVP. The Super Bowl hangover. I don't know. I can
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: see them losing.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Ang, I've been to so many.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Oh, I think they're going to lose. I just don't
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: think it's going to be a bloodbath.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've been to so many opening night games
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: after the Patriots won the Super Bowl.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Those Thursday night games. Now it's Wednesday.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, outside of one Colts game where it came
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: out of the wire and we won, I mean, we
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: just blew everybody out.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: The champs, there's a record. Like, the champs win like
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: 75% of the time on Open Day.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: And they still have pretty much the same defense.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, they haven't really. No. The coach and the
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: running back. Right, right.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Pretty much.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: So, I mean.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: And they have Jake Love, who's fucking probably the number
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: one receiver.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: So, to kind of play both sides of it, they
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: did lose the MVP, but also they haven't taken a
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: snap either.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Donald and May are one of like 12 quarterbacks that
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: did not play in the preseason. Now, I don't think
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: we're going to win that game. I don't. I could
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: see like 31-24 or something, but like almost like we're
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: out of it the whole time, but it's like a
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: close score.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, the Super Bowl wasn't that high scoring. I
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: don't think it would be that high scoring. But I
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: just think we've got to fucking be aggressive early.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Take chances. Get A.J. Brown involved right away. I love
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: our running game. I even like this Jam Miller guy
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: who's going to be the third down back. Or not
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: third down back. He's the third back.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: No, he's not. He got cut.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Jam Miller got cut? Yeah, he's not even on the
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: practice squad.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he got cut.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Really? So who's your third running back?
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Somebody didn't do their homework.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: I didn't. No, I looked at all the cuts. I
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: didn't see his name.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so the guy we traded for. from the cardinals
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: remember we get like right before cut down day we
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: traded a seventh round pick i think his last name
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: is kinder.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I saw that yeah i didn't know that was it
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: was coinciding with the jan miller.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Cup be better yeah so he was i'm.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Ashamed of myself i am i am i feel like
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: fucking stephen a smith the fucking first.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Take right now hunter henry's hurt.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: They um they traded for that guy and i think
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: they like the third that that kid can door because
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: he also plays special teams and jam doesn't. Yeah. So
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't think jams even on
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: our practice squad.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: You don't have to rub it in Chris. Jesus Christ.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: I fucked up. You guys are hot on AJ Brown, obviously.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: For, so my AJ Brown theory is he's going to
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: be just like Randy Moss. When we got Randy Moss,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: he's going to have a really good year.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: You can pull that door.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Not that good of a year.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, not a Randy Moss type year. My
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: point being he's a diva.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: He's going to have a great first year. Great second year.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: And then halfway through his third year, he's.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Going to be a diva again.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: And then they're going to trade him. Well, that's what
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: I was bringing it up for because I know really
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: little about the Phillies. I didn't pay attention. That's where
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: he came from. Yeah, he came from the Phillies. And
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: they put a stat on each. Oh, yeah. Be better.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Be better. Be better. Sorry. Be better.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Phillies are baseball.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: At least they got the sport right.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Sometimes they say Phillies-Eagles. But let me backtrack. So they
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: had a thing about how Jalen Brown won so many
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: more games and his stats looked so much better when A.J.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Brown wasn't playing. So is he a Diva level like
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Moss or is he more like a Chad Johnson? That's
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: not going to really add.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I can see the Chad Johnson just stat comparison,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: but he's just physically huge.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: He can play tight end A.J. Brown. He's two wins
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: for you then. You think he's going to add two
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: wins to you?
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: That kind of metric? Like wins above replacement?
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: To be honest? Yeah.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I think when you factor in, like,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: we also signed Romeo Dobbs. Right.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: But is that going to be an issue that you
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: have a great running game, you mentioned, and all the
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: running backs. Is it going to be an issue now
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: he's in New England not getting the ball again? Did
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: he drive his way out? Was he pissed? And, again,
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: I don't have that. I should have looked it up.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Was he pissy in Philadelphia?
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I just think Phillies is just a different– It's a
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: whole different world. And don't forget, he played with fucking
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Vrabel in Tennessee.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Vrabel wasn't the one that traded him. That was the
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: fucking GM that traded him.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Okay. That was my question. Is it going to hurt
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: you guys that you have a different offense and he
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: might not be the number one? All right.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: So wait a minute.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, he's still number one.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: No, no, no. I'm sorry. He's not going to get
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: 80% of the balls.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: No.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Okay. So here's the thing. They could. They could. We
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: all knew this deal was coming for five months.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, right? And so.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Had to wait until June 1st. And when they signed
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs, he knew AJ was coming. So, you know, like,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: it's not like... And then AJ knew they were signing
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs because the deal was already agreed to. We
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: just had to wait until June 1st. So it's not
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: like they're coming into this being like, wait a minute,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: why am I not getting the ball? And McDaniel's offense
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: is whoever's open.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: It's not.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: You know, like, I mean, there were some times... There
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: was sometimes fucking Chris Hogan was our leading receiver in
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: a game. You know?
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: Oh, wait a second.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Is McDaniels a touchy subject?
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Is what? Oh, McDaniels. Fuck McDaniels.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Is McDaniels a touchy subject?
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Sorry, you guys had the lead. I felt like you
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: had better leadership, though. You had Belichick and Brady. Now
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: you have Drake, and I know he walks on water,
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: but he's a young quarterback, and you have a younger
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: coach coming off a scandal. So.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: That's not a younger coach. He fucking coached seven years
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: in Tennessee.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: He's not Belichick, though. No, who is? Nobody, but that's
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: what I mean.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why we had the buffer of fucking Gerard Mayo.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: And now it's like following any stud.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Belichick had a way of getting all these malcontents and
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: divas to work for each other, like a Phil Jackson.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: He did.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: The new guy come in. Does he have that kind
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: of pull? Now you're going to bring in these head cases.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I think he does.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Coming off your turbulent offseason with everything else going on,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: does this add to the mess?
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: So I think that kind of scandal, whatever, I don't
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: think it's going to affect anything.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: You're done. Okay.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure, you know, we start losing, it'll
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: be brought up.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Did you see the athletics finding yesterday? They announced it,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: their investigation into her? See, this is what I'm talking about.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: This is why I still think Jan Miller is on
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: the fucking Patriots. I work 75 hours a week. You
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: guys are fucking.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Doom scrolling all day long. This is like the balls
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: weren't deflated. A year later, we had an independent guy
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: come and look. He never deflated those balls. He never did. Yeah.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: So go ahead. How did he get cleared of his
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: name of cheating on his wife for five years?
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Well, he didn't get cleared. Basically, the Athletic investigated her.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: They announced they went through 903 stories. 70 podcast episodes
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: and like 60 personal experiences and they found all they
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: found was she violated their employee standard like so basically.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah she's a pig she didn't do anything else wrong
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: she's a pig yeah she's a whore okay but unfortunately
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: women get a worse rap being a whore than men
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: being whores so it's.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Just well they announced too that there was no findings
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: that she ever skewed anything or information towards Vrabel so
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: You don't.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Go home and talk about work.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: No, it's not a.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: He cheated on his wife and she was a whore.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: That was the only thing. She is the one that
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: crossed the line more than he did. He's just a coach.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: She's the one trying to get a scoop by sucking dick.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: And that's where the journalism part.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: And that's a good way of getting information.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Well, she's working on something, too. She's going to have
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: a podcast. She's going to have her own podcast.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, she'll be fine.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: Oh, and a book and everything else.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: She'll be fine.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: But the thing is, the only thing with her.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: If the book goes bad, she'll do porn.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Well, like, the only thing with her is... The only
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: thing with her is she can't ever be an insider again.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Because the second you give her a confidential story, you're like, okay,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: that's going right back to Braybill.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: But she's probably going to make more money on the
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: outside nonsense.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: She'll be fine. She'll be fine. I still find that
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: whole story fucking hilarious. But back to him.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: When you were talking about is he like Belichickian-like or whatever,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I think he's got a little Belichick in him, but
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: he's like a player's coach.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Like when he sits in there, he high-fives everyone after
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: the game.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Belichick would never do that.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: But I feel like you've got to win for that
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: if you have that. Because Dan Campbell, he's got one
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: more year of this, and they're going to turn around. Oh, absolutely.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: So I feel like I'm going to high-five, and we're
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: fucking dogs and grit.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Dan Campbell may get fired the day I fly home
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: from Germany after that game.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: I'm going to Germany for the Patriots game.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: I think that's run its course.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: He bit off all the kneecaps he could bite off.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: It's time to go.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: And we're done here. Once he lost.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: That offensive coordinator.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: What was that playoff game? That he refused to fucking
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: punt or kick a field goal.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Three years ago, maybe. Against the Cowboys.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: What the fuck are you doing? To me, that was
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: the end of his career.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Was that a playoff game?
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: It was a playoff game. It was at Mark's house.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Mark said, die hard.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: And at halftime, they were up, and we're celebrating. Die hard. Lions.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Lions fan?
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Mark's a Lions. How does that happen? Mark's a Lions,
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Notre Dame, Oakland A's fan.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: Fucking misery.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, they– I don't know. At halftime, we're celebrating,
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: and he's like, I'm a Lions fan. It was kind
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: of like the Doom and Red Sox. And sure enough,
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: I'm like, no way they fucked this up, and we
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: sit there.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I better not say another word. Is that
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: the game where they went for two?
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: They kept not going for a fucking field goal or
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: not punting it.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: What was the game where it was... So it wasn't
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys then. There was a game towards the end
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: of the year. It was like a Monday Night Football game.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: The Titans game, I think.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Was it Titans?
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: No, it was Detroit-Dallas.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Oh, it was Detroit-Dallas.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: It wasn't a playoff game, though. It was like a
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: big game, end of the year, and.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Fucking, they went for two, they got it, but then
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: they called some weird penalty, and then he went for
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: two again, and fucking.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: They missed it. You remember that game? It was only, like,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: two years ago.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: And he, like, he could have kicked it the second time.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: He could have kicked it for the tie, but he
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: went for it again, like, 15 yards back or some
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: shit like that.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: Anyway.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: But, I mean, I think Angelo's right. That's run its course.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: A coach like that, you run your course.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: This guy, no, he doesn't even have a... Does he
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: have one championship game under his.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Belt or no?
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: No.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: No.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Not Super Bowl.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: No. I mean, they've never been.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: No.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's made an NFC champ. Maybe one.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: They don't Montgomery either. So everything's on Gibbs's shoulders this year, too.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: So they also, if you think about it, he's the
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: type of coach that the day he gets fired, he's
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: probably the Jets next coach.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: That's a good point. I like that.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: The Jets or the Dolphins or fucking some shit.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: Or the Raiders.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Could be the Raiders next coach.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: You fall into that category?
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: I think unless we win five games in the next
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: three years, I think they're going to give him the
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: five years. I don't think he's going anywhere.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: All right, here's the deal. Now we're all going to
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: go through our teams. Obviously, we're both Patriots. Season synopsis, wins, losses.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: We're not going to go through every game, but the goods,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: the bads, the uglies. So, Andrew, I'm going to have
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: you start with the Raiders.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: You go first. And while he's going, I'm going to
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: open up this Topps flagship.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, get that going.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: I'll do this, and then Ange can open up his
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: when I talk mine. So, Ange, the floor is yours.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: The Raiders season in a nutshell.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: And if I pull a Mendoza All Kings, we are
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: going to fucking go party tonight.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: In Boston. I think more of the same. I think
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: if you have the sum of a sentence, they do
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: it on ESPN. Raiders season is going to be more
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: of the same. We're going to have five wins. I
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: think we'll win opening day against the Dolphins, and then
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: it'll just turn into for a week we'll be happy,
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: like we won the Super Bowl, and then reality kicks in.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: The Chiefs come to town, the Chargers, fucking Denver, our division,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: you guys, I think five wins. I think Mendoza will
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: come in hopefully week 12, 13.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: You think he's going to sit that long?
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: I'm praying. That's a little of emotion. I want him
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: to sit. I don't think there's any purpose right now.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: We don't have a DB. We don't have a wide receiver.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: What about your offensive line?
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: They're great. We have the best center in the game.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: They've upgraded it. Let's see how it functions.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Because that's the only thing. For me, for a rookie
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: quarterback like that, if you're running for your life the
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: whole time, you don't really develop. Like if you're getting
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: hit a million times.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: No, exactly. And that's what it is. I mean, the
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: preseason he was shoved into passes and then it was
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: dropped passes. So I think he sits and he learns.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: I don't think Kirk Cousins is a bad role model
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: to have. especially not from a money-making standpoint. But I
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: think he's a decent– he reminds me a lot of
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Rich Gannon. So I think that's why I say that,
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: just a better– I mean, I feel like he never
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: really got a fair shake.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: I think– I like Kirk Cousins. I mean, I think
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: he's good for you guys because, you know– I mean,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: you also have to teach your team how to win,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: but you also have to teach your team how to lose. Like,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: put it in the rear view.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Like, get rid of it.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: And that's where I think he's great. I think it's
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: almost like a Kurt Warner was to Eli Manning maybe. Obviously,
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Kurt Cousins didn't win a Super Bowl, or go to
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: a Super Bowl. It's just I feel like Kurt Cousins
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: is a good option. If they rolled out, if they
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: were saying, oh, it's going to be Aiden O'Connell and
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: like a Geno or somebody.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, look at that.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Is that numbered?
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Seventh round pick.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Is he on the practice squad? Is he cut?
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: He made the 53.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: So we're carrying three quarterbacks.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: You know Michael Washington Jr.? There's not a cart out
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: of him.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: I have some.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: How?
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: I go on eBay and punch in his name. I've
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: seen none. I'll find it.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: I've got one outside.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: But they're not on eBay as of last week.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: It's not worth anything.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: But your seventh-round kicker is?
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not saying he is.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: No, but there's a card of him. Is that what
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: you just showed?
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Jeremy's just happy he's on the roster.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: That's the third-string quarterback.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay. I thought you were showing a kicker. What
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: the fuck?
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Jeremy's just happy he's on the roster.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I think next year hopefully we see the change.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: By the way, I'm halfway through this deck. There's nothing.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: I've got no cards yet.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I'm hoping next year.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: That's the hot box, Ang.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I think, Angelo, I think your guys– I think you're
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: going to do a little bit better than five wins
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: this year. I think that's just, that's me saying that.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: But I also think we beat you guys. No, no,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: that's a payback game. Everyone's going to bet the Raiders
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: and we're going to beat them by like 40.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Cause you lost the last two to us in weird fashion.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: I know. Oh, the other one was the other one.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: He was a handler Jones game.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: He turned into Clancy.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: No, but I think you guys, and I think, I
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: think what's coming is, And I think it's actually beneficial
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: in your division. Mahomes, he's running on fumes.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: He's played a lot of football. He had an ACL tear.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: I'm not afraid of them. I think they finished third.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say, I don't think they
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: keep going the way they're going.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: What I fear is the Broncos. And now they got Waddle.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: He don't suck. You don't go to the Super Bowl
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: if you don't get hurt.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: No, he's not. He's not. He's not that good. Peyton's
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: a great coach.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: He got drafted that night. The Raiders could have. We'll
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: talk in five years. I think he's a Hall of Famer.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Bo Nix.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: I think he's a Hall of Famer.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Angela, you know he's our age, right?
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: We got time. In five years, you'll know. We'll have
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: better answers. Not that he's there. By the way.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: So Tops literally put a third-string quarterback on the cover
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: of their fucking packs.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: That's nuts. Future. The future is bright.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: All right, last pack.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I got another Morton rookie. Hold on.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Hold on. Let's see, the cards turned. Doesn't that mean
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: that means something?
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, they're just the better cards. But Malik Neighbors,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: that's a nice card.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Is he even coming back?
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know if he's playing week one.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Oh, he's going to run the league. I was in
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: a Giants, all Giants fans, they were fighting over him
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: in an auction league. Another one I don't think. Anthony
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: Smith rookie shiny card. Who is that? Anthony Smith, Dallas.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Wide receiver or tight end.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: He is a wide receiver.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: Who's the old guy on the next one?
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: That's Myles Garrett.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: I thought that was a throwback. Look at the back.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: He looks like a throwback player.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: All right, Ang. I got nothing.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: So what's your rating? Hold on before you open it.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Five wins. Five wins? Five wins.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: What pick does that get you, do you think?
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: I'm hoping in the top ten.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: It might get you in the top five. How many
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: teams are worse?
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: I know we're going to talk.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: About that after. I have my bottom five.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Arizona.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: I don't think the Jets are going to be that bad.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: I don't think they're winning ten games, but I could
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: see them winning six or seven.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: So the thing is, though, is I think one of
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: the worst teams is going to be the Cardinals because
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: they're going to go 0-8 in that division.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Don't say that because I've been drafting Jeremiah Love all
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: over the place, so I need some fantasy numbers out
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: of him.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Well, he might have a shit ton of carries, so
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: that could be good.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I think the thing with the Jets is they
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: might suck, but they're going to.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: Be high end. Numbered? Yeah, 9 out of 100. 9
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: out of 1,000. Oh, nice.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: How did you get a number? Jesus Christ, nine out
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: of 1,000. That's probably worth fucking 75 cents.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: Brock Bowers.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, there you go. All right, Chris, you're up. Pats,
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: and then I'll finish with it.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: So, obviously, we got better offensively, right? Like, you can't
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: add two, like, top receivers like that and not be better. Right.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: A couple things worry me. Our defense, I'm like... Our
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: defense is going to go one of two ways, right?
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: It's going to be like, wow, they're really good, or
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: holy shit, everybody's hurt. We can't stop a fly. Yeah,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: we have no depth, I would say. Not at all.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: But I think, I mean, look, I think it's going
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: to be a good year. Our division, I mean, Miami's
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: going to what? Miami's the Cardinals. They're going to go
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: 0-8 in the division, so you're going to win two games.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: And then you split with Buffalo, so you're already, what, 3-1?
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: 3-1.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: You know, when you beat the Jets twice, you're 5-1
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: in the division.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, I.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Think we're there. I think 12 wins, 12-5. Yeah. And
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I think that actually wins the division because I'm not
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: sure Buffalo's that good.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: And not to mention, the one thing about Buffalo that
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: no one's talked about is their new coach is only
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: there because Josh Allen loves him.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I have Buffalo for the Super Bowl.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: That's all right.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Spoiler alert.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's all right.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: But I think we have.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen has the talent to bring a team to
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: a Super Bowl. There's no doubt. And he's fucking unbelievable.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: I love Josh Allen.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: How old is he now?
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: He's probably 30, right?
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: He's got to be.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: Well, he's got to be over 30.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: You don't mind if I steal this Tua card, right?
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: No, you take whatever you want. I'm just saying, if
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: there's a fucking... No, all the cards are yours unless
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: you get.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: A $ 5, 000 card.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: This Tua.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: No, I'm going to be able to pick Sean.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, if two is starting,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: is Atlanta one of the worst teams?
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: They're going to be bad. They're going to be bad.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: I think maybe with Pennix, they're probably still... Yeah.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: The Saints are going to be bad.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: What do you think about our kicker and our punter
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: and our special teams?
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Because those always seem to be a big major part
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: of our seasons when we play.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: I think we're good.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I think we're good. I mean, they got, you know,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Borgalis' second year. I mean, he's making kicks. You know,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: he's making... kicks in the super bowl. He's making kicks
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: in like against like in Denver, he made a kick
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: in the snow. Like I think we're good there, which
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: is weird by the way, cause he went to Miami,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: but I think we're good there. Um, Berenger, I don't know.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: He didn't really have a good year last year and
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: he wasn't healthy this preseason. Yeah.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: I saw the other guy was pun. I was paying
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: a little bit of attention.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: That, that, that guy's from like Scotland. He played like Scotland,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: like football.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: And he, and he was just booming the ball, but yeah.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I think 12 wins, I think
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: we could go back to the Super Bowl. I will
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: say this. I think the AFC is way harder.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: Angelo is shaking his head right now, but you can
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: expect that. Right.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: But I think the AFC is tough. It's probably the
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: tougher conference, I would think.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: Bo Nix.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: So you got Denver, KC, us, Buffalo, and then Baltimore
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: and who?
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: The Chargers and Houston made the playoffs last year.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Houston's got the best defense, I think.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville made the playoffs, right?
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: And we play them.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, we play them where?
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: I forget. I don't know.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I don't have a schedule in front of me.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: I'm very unprepared, unlike Angelo, who just has all the
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: stats in front of him.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: How are you doing over there, Ange?
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: I've got two of the same cards. One's sparkly, one's not. Oh,
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: that's good.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, nice, nice.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: And then another Eli for you. A good Eli. Yes.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: So you're saying 12-5. Win the division or no?
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: 12-5 wins it? Yeah, I think so. You think Buffalo's
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: 12-5 and we win in a tiebreaker kind of thing?
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Or Buffalo's more like 10-6, 11-6?
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I think Buffalo's going to be like 10 or 7
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: or 11 or 6.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Remember, every team in our division has basically the same schedule,
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: and our schedules are all tough.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: That's why I think the Jets are going to be
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: really bad. Miami's going to be really bad.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: Well, they don't have the same because you have a
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: game where you guys got to play the first place.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: You have a disadvantage.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: A little bit, but for the most part, we play
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: the same NFC teams.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: What division do we play? We play the AFC West
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: this year.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: West, yeah, you play. Yes.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: And then there's like a couple of random games. That's it.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: What NFC division do we play?
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: We are Detroit, so we're playing the NFC, what is that,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Central or whatever it is?
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: The NFC North.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: North, yeah.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: So we play Detroit, Green Bay.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: The Vikings. The Vikings. Oh, that's right. We play at
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Lambeau this year.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a cool game. That's awesome, yeah.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: But I think also, like, the Vikings. I mean, Kyler Murray.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not worried about the Vikings. Obviously, Detroit with
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: the game, I'm going to see. But I'm a good
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: luck charm, so we're winning in fucking Germany.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: And then we play the Bears.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: You may not win from Thanksgiving to Christmas.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Whatever you want to believe.
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: Your schedule.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Do you understand that we're actually, when people look at
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: us now, they're like, wait, that's a loss.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: Who?
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Any team that's playing us.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: No, they don't.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they do.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: I'm a Raider fan. I don't think that.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Because you're a Raider fan. That's all part of the point.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: No, people outside of New England that are... I mean,
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: we looked at the schedule. And I know you're going to...
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: It's the easiest schedule. You had the easiest schedule last year.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: So did Denver. But you're all in love with fucking
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Bo Nix. Where was Bo Nix? Where was Bo Nix
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: last year? He fucking breaks an ankle running a fucking
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: one yard out.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Even Tom Brady admitted it was a sack. Admit you
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: don't beat Denver last year. No.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: It's a whole different game.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: Or a lot closer. You're getting a lot closer than
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Dude, you saw how the weather was the second half.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Who knows what happens in that game?
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Dude, does Debra have a better chance with Bo Nix
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: than that fucking slug that used to be our backup?
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: Mine, too.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: He wasn't our fucking backup. He was our starter. Even
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: fucking worse. No, I just, I mean, the cards fell
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: in place for you. CJ Stroud spotted you five times.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: When I made my prediction last year, I never said
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: we'd go to the Super Bowl. I didn't think we
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: were ready yet.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: You weren't. No. It was like 94. But again, what
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: year was it? 96. It was like 96.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Actually, 96 we were ready. That was the fourth year
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: of Bill Parcells.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: We were ready for that. And I'm sure if we
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: were 1996 right now and we were going into the season,
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: he'd be saying 16-0 because we're 16 games ahead. And
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: you would think you were going to five more fucking
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: Super Bowls. The fact of the matter is you never
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: got back to a Super Bowl until that bullshit tuck rule. So, what,
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: 20 years in between? Oh, here we go.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: You knew it was going to come up at some point.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: No, but it's like you had an easy schedule.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: So I like how you said that, though. Bullshit tuck rule.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: The rule may be bullshit, but the rule is fucking
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: correctly addressed.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: A lot of dumb rules.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, though.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: Like killing three kids and walking. A lot of fucking
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: dumb rules. She didn't walk yet.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: She's going to get retried.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: She should fry. I know. I agree.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: I'm all over the place. He's on his third Jack
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: Daniels fucking bomber.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: No, because what I want to ask, I always want
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: to ask this. Okay, so say we don't win that game.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Because of that, we're not winning the next five we win?
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: We're not going to win in 03 because of that?
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: Do you win the next? You went that. The tuck
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: rule you won, you beat. St. Louis. St. Louis. Then
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: you went back and beat the Cardinals. No, we went.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: You went. No, Tampa Bay.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: You lost to Tampa Bay, and then we went back
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: two times.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: No, no, see, you don't understand. If that doesn't happen,
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck about you.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: First of all, you busted my balls over fucking knowledge.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: You just said you played the Cardinals in the Super Bowl.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: I didn't say the Cardinals.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Yes, you did, and I said Tampa Bay.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: No, I know Tampa Bay. I know Tampa Bay.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: Well, you didn't say it.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: I know Tampa.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: I'm losing my mind.
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: I'm also just what he said. I've never said that
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: if— You lost that game, you would never... I don't
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: know what would happen with Tom Brady. There's people that
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: say that he may not have started, they would have
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: traded him, whatever. I don't give a fuck about the
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: New England Patriots if we win that game. Because I
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: win two back-to-back Super Bowls.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: You lost one.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: You think you have.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: More confidence going into that Tampa Bay game?
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: If Gruden was on our fucking side and they didn't
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: know the plays... But he wasn't going to be regardless.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Why wasn't he going to be?
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Because him and Al Davis hated each other.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: If they win the Super Bowl, you think Gruden's leaving
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: the next year? Stop. Stop. He was under contract.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Cut him three years later. Yeah.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's ten years later. Who gives a fuck
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: about that?
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: I got to kind of side with Ange on this. Yeah,
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: you're nuts. I doubt he's still there.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Did you see what they got for him?
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: Four draft picks. Did you see?
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: Four first round picks.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: I know exactly what they got. Derek fucking Gibson. Look
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: up his fucking rookie card. All of a nickel. Fucking no.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: I know what they got for it, but they wouldn't
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: have traded him. You're not going to come off a
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl and say all that Al Davis did was
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: want to win. You're at the top of the thing.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: Just win, baby.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: No.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: Fucking way they traded Gruden away.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Who took over?
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: Bill fucking Callahan. I've been watching his career. He went
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: to the Jets. He went to Nebraska. He's a fucking bum.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: All right, listen.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: We are the stupidest team in America. Dumbest.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Are we going to pick division winners?
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: No, hold on.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: I haven't even gone yet. Can I fucking go?
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Well, I was, I was worried you weren't prepared.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: No, that's, that's the answer. I just, I got one
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: guy wrong. I got one guy wrong.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: I don't think so.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I think we're going 17, you know, because Jim Miller
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: is going to be the greatest fucking running back since the,
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: Oh wait, nevermind. Uh, no, uh, go ahead. So here's
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: my philosophy this year. Better team, worse record. I predict
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: they go 13 to four last year. Uh, Obviously, a
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: lot of the games, and Angela's probably going to agree,
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: like Joe Burrow didn't play.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: The fucking game we played Cincinnati.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Everything did break our way last year, but sometimes that's
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: how you get to a Super Bowl.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: But thank you. At least a minute. You're the only one.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: I agree with you.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: Everybody else is like, we were the fucking greatest team ever. No,
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: you got a lot of breaks.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: Who says that?
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: Oh, everybody. Who? Everybody.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, Angela, we might have had a lot of breaks,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: but we're also not the fool's gold everybody said.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: We were a good football team.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no. I never said that.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: No, I think Drake Mays is the real deal. He
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: throws a fucking great ball. Like, you only watch fucking
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: SportsCenter highlights. Me and Chris dive in like you dive
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: in Mendoza and fucking you love every fucking little fucking
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: short out.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Route he fucking throws. I saw the Super Bowl.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: I saw the Super Bowl.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know what? You know, we had no
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: line fucking. We had no line.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: We had no line the whole playoffs, and he somehow
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: still had some decent stats against Four of the best defenses.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: In the fucking league. And he had a shoulder injury,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: and he played through it.
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: Who? May.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Drake May?
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: He had cortisone shots before.
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: Every single player. CJ Stroud spotted you five turnovers. CJ
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: Stroud alone.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, we have a good defense, Zange.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: That's not Drake May, though.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: Drake May is great.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Drake May also threw three touchdowns in that game.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: Does that not count? They weren't short-fielded either.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: Nine games this year, max.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: All right, well, you know what? Can I have the
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: fucking– is it my turn?
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: All right. So you went 12-5, right?
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: So last year I went 13-4. We went 14-3. I
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: was off by a little bit. This guy laughed me
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: off the stage. Fuck you, 13-4, you fucking idiot. Now,
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: with all due respect, we sucked the year before, so
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: I was overreaching for sure. But I agree with you, Chris.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: I think our offense is going to be fine. I
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: think we can put up 25-28 a game depending on
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: the team. But I think our defense is the big
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: question mark. Are we going to be– I think it's
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: going to come down to a lot of coaching for
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: our defense. Our special teams, I agree. I think they're okay.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: The punter could be an issue, but how often does
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: punting really– sometimes it does, but how often?
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: I think he hit all kings. He's not telling me.
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: No, I don't think we got nothing.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: He just left something in his pocket.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: But I'm going to go back-to-back 13-4.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: I think 13-4 is a reach this year.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: I do.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: I was going to do 12-5, but you did it,
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: and I didn't want to do the same. So what
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: do we got? Ooh, a little shiny Will Campbell.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: Nice.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Speaking of Will Campbell, if Will Campbell can fucking actually
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: play like he did pre-injury last year, Vera Tucker, another one.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: He's playing on an incentive-laden contract. When he plays, he's great.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: He's always hurt, though.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: That's the problem. That's funny.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: They were saying, they were saying, uh, I forget who
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: it was, but maybe it was Will Campbell. He's like,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: he's the most athletic guy I've ever played next.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: So I think we can have a sneaky good old line. Um, again,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: I think we're losing week one. I think we're probably
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: two and two after the first four. Uh, but then
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: we have, uh, you know, our, our mid right after that,
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: it's kind of a soft schedule and you rack up
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: four or five.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: Wins and then it gets tough again.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Um, but we get to seven and two or six
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: and three. I, I think as the team gels over
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: the year, I don't think we're– honestly, I'm going to
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: say 13-4 just because I've got to put it on record.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: I wanted to say 12-5, but I don't think we're
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: going to be 11-6, so I'll go one over you.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: I agree with you more, though.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: I think 12-5 is a realistic goal, I think.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: It's hard.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, 14-3, to Ange's point, a lot of it
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: was the Jets were so bad, and they are this year.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: Miami was so bad. They are this year.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: We split with Buffalo. I see the same thing happening
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: this year. That's 5-1 against our division. Maybe Buffalo gets
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: snakebitten by Miami or the Jets and go 4-2.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, we could too. We could too, absolutely.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: We always never play well in Miami.
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: Your thing is five losses.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm going 13-4 only because he went 12-5.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: But you're saying you're confident. Like if I had a
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: gun to your head and you could bet. So who
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: are your five losses?
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: Seattle week one. All right, just go real quick.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: All right. So you have Seattle. Yeah. Loss. Loss. Rams. No,
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: hold on. Why is it not updating? Rams.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: I know they play the Rams, I think, don't they?
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they have. Hold on. I'm curious just where.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: Would you like me to look up my phone?
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: No, I'll do it. I don't know what the fuck.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, fuck.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: My fantasy draft started. I got to get rid of
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: you real quick.
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: We hung up on him?
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: No, no. I just got to fucking get him off
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: my screen.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: Seattle. That's a loss. Loss. Pittsburgh. When? When? Jacksonville. When? When? Yes. No, Jacksonville.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: We're not losing to Trevor Lawrence.
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: Jacksonville is going to be a loss. Buffalo.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: That's my loss.
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: That's my 2-2. So you got two.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: So that's my 2-2 to start.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: So you got two. You got one. The Raiders.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. Wait, wait. Where's that Buffalo game?
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: At Buffalo. Buffalo.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we win that one and lose to
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: them at home.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: All right, so you're both agreeing now on two losses.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: The Raiders. Win. The Jets. Win. Win. At Chicago, end
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: of October. Win. No. Win. Miami. Win. Win. Green Bay.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: At Green Bay, I'll give you a loss there.
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: No, not at Green Bay. You're home. Oh, we are home.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you said it was at Lambeau, Chris.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: I thought it was at Lambeau.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, we're home. Yeah, we can win that.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: Jordan loves that better than Drake Mayne.
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: Detroit.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a win.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: So I'm going to that game, so that's a win.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: They don't lose when I watch them live.
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: Wow, you guys are crazy. Chargers.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: Where?
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: Win.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: At?
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: Win. Win. Buffalo. At Buffalo, you both said win.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're 1-1, so yeah.
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: Minnesota.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Win.
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: At KC, four days before Christmas.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's a tough one for me.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: At KC. That's a tough one. That could be a loss.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: Okay, so we're three.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: Three losses, yeah.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: You guys are so full of shit, you're not even
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: going to make the five. At the Jets. When? Denver. Where? Flex. Oh, Denver. Sorry.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: You're home. Oh, at home? Yeah.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's a win. Denver's at us? When does that
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: ever happen? We're always at Denver.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: We're always at Denver.
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: Oh, sorry. I apologize. We were done with the Jets.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: You were all over the place. Are you going week
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: by week or just random teams?
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: No, no, no. I'm going. I'm sorry. I'm back on track.
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: So you had Denver. Flex game on week 17.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: At home.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: At home.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: No, that could be week 17. We have to play
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: the fucking....
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: Listen.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: We haven't had two Miami's games.
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: It's fucking... We haven't heard two Miami's games. No, Miami's
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: the last week. Miami's next.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: When's the first Miami game?
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: I skipped over it because I knew where we were.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: You guys have fucking three losses. No, hold on. All right.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: Let me hold on. All right. Seattle loss.
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: Buffalo loss.
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: Two. Raiders win.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: Jets win. Chicago. That's iffy. We're at Chicago Thursday night football.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: That could be a winner or loss.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Chicago might be lost.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: I'll go two and a half because that's a fucking
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: pick them.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: At Miami win. Chicago at fucking Soldier Field.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Versus Green Bay win. Versus Detroit win because I'm there.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: At Chargers.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: Win.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: Toss up. So I'll give it 50-50. So we're at three.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: Versus Buffalo. We're obviously losing. That's four. Minnesota's a win
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: at KC. That's five. And then Jets, Miami, and home
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: against Denver. Those are our wins. So that's a five.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: What?
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying. You're acting like.
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: And I'm sorry that people at home ought to go
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: through that fucking torture, but they're not winning all these games.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: Fucking the Lions. The Lions stick out for me real bad.
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: You're just glossed over. You're like, win.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: No.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: I'm there, asshole. I'm in Germany at the game. What
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: do you think? I'm going to fucking chalk up a
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: loss to that? Listen, I went to a lot. I'm
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: 1-7 in Oakland. I never saw them win in Oakland.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: I didn't know if Jeremy Wells was at a game.
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: The fucking Patriots were on the table. Wasn't aware of
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: that rule.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: In the Brady era, I went 20-0, and that was
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: 20 games over three years I never saw a loss.
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: Fuck Mickey Mantle, then. You're not the fucking hits record.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Can I ask a question?
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Angelo fired Dan Campbell a half hour ago, so how
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: are they going to beat us?
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: Right. I don't think you're that good. i was saying
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: that well no i know i don't think i don't
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: think the lions are a super bowl team i think
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: they've lost a step and i said this year i
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: think a lot will tell if he does great this
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: year i'll fine but if he does and i think
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: he's fired yeah.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe but again okay so here's the thing and
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: we talked about this earlier who's who's out there that's
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: better that's the only problem they built that team in
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: his image.
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: See i'm at a disadvantage there because I don't watch college. So, like,
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: I didn't know who Lane Kiffin was until we hired him.
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: I didn't know who Steve Sabatzi. I didn't know. So
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I love the whole offensive.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: Then why do you love Fernando Mendoza so much if
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: you don't watch college?
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: Because the name got in my head. I watched the highlights.
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: I watched the championship game.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: No, I'm just asking.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: No, listen.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: I'm not making it funny. I'm just saying.
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: And 20 years ago, I was sitting here saying, fucking,
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: who do I want? Brady Quinn or Jamarcus Russell? They
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: both looked fucking amazing.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they both sucked.
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: It wouldn't matter who you picked.
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: I wanted Brady. I wanted Brady Quinn.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah.
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he sucked it. I would have skipped over Calvin Johnson, too.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: Do you remember that Cleveland draft? It was Brady Quinn
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: and Joe Thomas, right?
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and everybody thought Brady Quinn was going to
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: be the best.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: And Joe Thomas was the Hall of Famer.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: They were fucking giving the Browns the Super Bowl. I
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: remember the best was I was at a buddy's house
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: when I was working on the border, and he was
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: a big Steelers fan. It was the Eli year, and
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: everybody got home runs. There was giant fans there. They
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: got Eli. He was a Steeler fan. He got Big Ben.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: And I end up with Robert Gallery. He looks at
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: me and he's like, you got a fucking 10-year. 10-year,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: you plug him in, he's going to have a 10-year
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: Hall of Fame career. Nope, not a fucking. I think
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: he lasted three. Yeah.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: He was from Iowa, right?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was from Iowa.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: He's all fucked up now on a serious note. Oh, really?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: Head and CTE. He was suicidal. I always loved him, though,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: because when he got a thing like, what did you
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: do with your draft pick or your draft money? And
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: he goes, I drive a 1989 Buick Century. I'm not
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: getting rid of it.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: That's so do you, right?
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what we were.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, we connected.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Hey, let me ask you a question about CTE. I
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: saw an article the other day, or not an article.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: It came out today. It came out today. There was
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: a study.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: So I read, though, it's the only disease you can't
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: detect until you're dead.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: So there's a lot of skeptics on this disease.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: Is it real?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: Because Will Smith made a movie about it?
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: Well, so what I saw today, and I don't know,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: I didn't study it, but basically they tested, I think
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: it was 10 Hall of Famers, and they tried to
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: test them for CTE, and it came back not being
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: able to be detected. And then they talked to one
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: of the guys, and he's like, I 100% have it,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: because every symptom you guys talk about, I have. He's like,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: so what do we do? Because you can't, you have
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: to take their brain and study it for like protein
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: deficiency and all the holes and everything.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: Cutting pieces off.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Right, you don't believe in CT?
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: Not really. Oh, I do.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: I do too. And I don't believe in anything that like.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: If I have CTE that I'm going to go kill you,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: I think the constant headaches, the buzzing of the ear.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: I believe in migraines and damage from playing football your
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: whole life. But I think the CTE, you know, when
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: it first came out, I just went with it.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: Sure. That makes sense. But the more I like kind
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: of read about it and I just don't, I don't know.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: I just think it's like, I think it's a constant.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: I think it's, I don't know.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: lean towards not believing it.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: It's a fine line, but I think it is. Migraines
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: and all that. It's a max. Time out.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: Time out.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: Time out.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: All right. I'm picking my quarterback now. I missed fucking
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: six rounds. I'll tell you my team in a second.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: This is the round you've got to stop.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: I'm going to take a quarterback. Jaden Daniels, Trevor Lawrence,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, Brock Purdy, Bo Nix.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: Don't say Bo Nix. Jackson Dart, Matt Stafford. I need
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: a quarterback here.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: Bo Nix.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Drake Mays gone?
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: I'm in round seven. I missed the first six rounds, Chris.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: Bo Nix. And the Saints guy's not there. Everybody's hot
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: on him.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, shook.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know why.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: How about Stafford? Stafford's the MVP.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: He's old.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but Puka's not going to play like six games. Yeah.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, what, because he's a Jew hater?
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: And is Stafford going to play all 17 games?
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: I don't want Daniels.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: Lawrence?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: I would take Lawrence. Or who was the other one?
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: Prescott, Purdy, Nix.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: Purdy's another one.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: I don't understand.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: I'm going to take Bo Nix.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just told you. I took him.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: I took him.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: Hall of Fame bowl next year.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: I'm going to fucking call you out.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: When he wins your league, I want some of the
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: whiskey that you need a cork to open. I don't
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: want this screw-off shit anymore.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: All right, all right, all right.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: All right, so let's go into AFC, NFC title games
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: and Super Bowl predictions.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: Who wants to start? I'll start.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: No, you start.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: I'll start. I'll start this time.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: All right, AFC... No, the NFC Championship game, I would go.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: It's hard to really predict because.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: You don't know how the matchups are going to be.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: It's easier to predict when you see how the fucking
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: play out.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: I definitely think the Rams are there. I just think
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: they are.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: I just think their defense, especially with what's-his-name back, it's
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: going to be fucking tough.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: And their coaches, I mean, Sean McVay is, you know,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: like him or hate him.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: You got to give it to him.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: You got to give it to him. You got to
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: tip your hat. You got to tip your hat.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: He's a great coach.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: He's fearless. He will just fucking... He'll come at you
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: and fucking hold you.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: You know what I like about him, too, is that
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: if he has a young assistant on his staff that's, like,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: up for head coaching jobs, he lets them coach an
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: entire preseason game while he sits up in the booth. Right.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: Just so they can get the exposure and everything.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: I've always thought that was such a cool thing that
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: he did.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: So, hold on. I'm actually making a pick. I'm up in, like,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: seven seconds. I don't know who I need. This is, like,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: the worst draft ever. I don't know. I'm going to
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: go Carnell Tate. Rookie.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: Wide receiver. Not a bad pick.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: All right. Fuck it. And now I'm not up for, like,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: 21 picks.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: Did you take my man Jack Beck? Sleeper later on.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: Sleeper later on.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: The next Julian Edelman. So, NFC, definitely the Rams. And
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: I think Seattle's going to fade back a little bit
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: after we trounce them in week one, even though I
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: said we'd lose.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: This is the most hypocrite.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: That was a joke. That was a joke. Man, the
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: second team. I would go.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go Rams. Lions.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: AFC. What's that noise? You running the dishwasher, Chris?
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: No, Liz is coming downstairs with Louie.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: AFC.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go....
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: Rematch.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: Denver. Denver.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: Patriots, and the only reason why I say that is
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: because I'm sorry, Josh Allen, but you can't get to
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: this game for whatever reason it is.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: Wait, so let me ask you this. You're a Patriot. Oh, well,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: you're Rams-Lions game. Where is that?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: LA. LA. LA.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Where's the Patriots-Broncos game?
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: New England.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: I just think KC's back, so I don't... I think
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: there could be a lot of tiebreakers this year.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: Could be a lot of 12-5, 13-4 teams. Instead of 14-3.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, think about it. Denver was 14-3 last year.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: So were we. I don't see that happening. I think
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: everyone's starting.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: All these new quarterbacks, these young quarterbacks are starting to
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: get into the groove with their team. I joke with
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Ang about Bo Nix, but I just drafted him in
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: my fantasy team, so now I'm a fan.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: But, I mean, he's not a bad quarterback. Hall of Famer?
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: We'll see. I think Drake May is better than Bo Nix,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: but by how much?
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: They both are running quarterbacks. They both fucking are good passers.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: They have high fucking percentages.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: One has good luck. One has bad luck. Right.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: So I go with the good luck guy.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: Why not?
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you?
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: So now I'm forced to say the Pats are going
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: back to the Super Bowl, which I didn't want to do,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: but I just fucking pickled myself in a corner. So Pats, Rams,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: but Rams beat us this year. So we're going to
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: go 0-2 in the Super Bowl. In consecutive years.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: Against two NFC teams.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: Well, you have to.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: Because you play an NFC team. Same team.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: Same NFC team.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: Jesus Christ. No, I'm throwing meatballs. I want you to
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: take these because I would. But it would be the
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: first time you'd lose to two teams, two different teams, twice.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: That'd be a nice record.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: Would that be true?
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know who else lost.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: When you make so many Super Bowls, Ang, yeah, you're
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: bound to set records for losing them.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: But wait, we're 2-0 against the Rams right now in
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: Super Bowls.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: We are. We are. But I'm saying nobody's lost.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: Lost twice. So we lost to Seattle.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: If you lost to them twice, then you lost to
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: the Giants twice.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: If we lost to the Rams, that would be twice, yeah.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, all right.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: By the way... I'm not confident with anything I just said.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: It's like football. You never know.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: You never know what's going to happen when the fucking
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: season starts.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: It's crazy.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: I know, but you should be really confident in your Rams.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: Pick, though.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: I'm confident in the Rams pick. They're stacked.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: I hate it, but it's like.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: Is Puka really out six weeks?
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: He's on the exempt list still.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: That's just for being a Jew hater?
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: For whatever he did in the offseason.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: And beat his girlfriend up or some shit?
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like a second allegation came out like last week
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: or something.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: I saw that. So I got the fourth pick in
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: the draft tomorrow.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: I'm not drafting him. So I don't have any. I'm
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: in five leagues. I drafted four already, and I don't
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: have him in any, which is nice. But the whole exemplist,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: my buddy Josh Jacobs, he's on the exemplist. I got
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: him like in the eighth round last night. Does he
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: have a chance?
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: That's a little early for him, no?
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: Really? He's screwed.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's screwed.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: He's screwed. He might not play all year. Oh, really?
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: I think so. He's almost like a Ray Rice shit.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: I was just gonna say they have a video that
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: some like someone was saying they're the video they have
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: makes ray rice.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: Look be careful who you're talking to i had a
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: buddy put it on a group chat and it was
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: indeed the ray rice video he was trying to pass
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: off as josh jacobs.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: I haven't well that's your buddy i mean i don't
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: know i.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: Haven't seen the i haven't seen a video that a
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: video was.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: But then they also they just also moved his uh
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: His first court appearance?
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: I saw that. They moved it up a month.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: So that's why he could end up on the exemplar.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: I can't see his first game back against New England.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: Fuck him, too. He left us. Fuck him, too.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: All right, so... All.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Right, Angelo's up for predictions.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: Angelo's up now.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: All right, so we're doing NFC.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: NFC, NFC, NFC championship game, NFC championship game, Super Bowl
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: matchup and winner.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: All right, so the NFC... I like the Rams. Obviously,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: the Rams and Dallas....
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, Rams and Dallas.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: Dallas, really? All right.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: I'm not poo-pooing your pick.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying. I'm surprised. Then the Rams going to
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: the Super Bowl.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: Okay. Then I have Denver and Buffalo. Okay. And I
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: think Josh Allen breaks through. Okay. I think they go.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: He gets there finally.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: It's Allen and then the Rams and the Super Bowl.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: And who's taking the crown?
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: The Rams. The Rams.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: So Josh finally gets there and fucking loses.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: It's like John Grunus, I'm in the nightmares.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Now, seriously, though, if Buffalo got there, regardless of opponent,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: I would probably bet on Buffalo.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: I think the hump is him getting there.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: Against a stacked Dodger-like team, against an organization that knows
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: how to lose Super Bowls better than anybody.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: See, I think LA is ready for a downturn.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: I hope so.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: I really do. Yeah.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: Sean McVay will find guys get open. Even if Puka's
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: not there, he's going to scheme guys to get open.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: Right. Now, is McVay, is he the Belichick tree? Or
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: the Peyton? No.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: No, he's the McVay.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: He's Peyton, right?
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: He knew people.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: I thought he was Shanahan.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: He may be Shanahan.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: I thought he was Shanahan. He might be.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: Oh, maybe.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: He's definitely not a Belichick guy, though. Definitely not Belcher.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Before he got this job, he was, like, someone's, like,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: quarterback coach.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: But, all right, so I guess it's my turn, huh? Yeah,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: you're up.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Washington. Washington had them all and didn't give any
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: of them a head coaching job.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: All right, so I'm going, obviously, the Rams. I'm going
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: the Eagles. I just don't, I mean, I just don't
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: think Chicago's as good as people make them out to be.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: But that being said, I could see them making the
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: NFC championship, but I'm going to go Rams and Eagles. Obviously,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go Rams going to the Super Bowl.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: And then in the AFC, obviously, I'm taking the Patriots.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: No surprise there. Homer. I actually think they're going to
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: play the Ravens in the AFC championship game.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: With a new coach. See, here's where I'm like.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: Maybe if they had Max Crosby, but.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: But, I mean, they added Trey Hendrickson. They have a
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: good defense. It's not– it's just– you know what it
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: is with the Ravens? I think they're going to be there,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: but is Lamar going to be healthy?
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: That's the key. He goes down, and my pick goes sideways.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: But I'm going to say Ravens, Patriots. Patriots go to
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and I think the Rams win the
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: All right. So we're on the same page with that.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: All three of us.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: Rams are all winning, right?
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing is, like Angelo said, if
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Stafford gets hurt.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: They're sure. Right.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Well, no, apparently this kid looks fucking great. Hey, so
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: Max Crosby, right, you just brought up?
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: If you guys were just fucking tanking, do you try
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: to train him at the deadline?
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: He's gone this year regardless. Unless you guys are winning,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: which I don't see.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: I don't see it either, but I don't see, I
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: don't know. I love him. Obviously, that's my favorite player. Yeah,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: of course, he's awesome. So I'm always like, I don't
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: want him to go. But I feel like he may have.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: It was kind of like Manny.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: I never wanted Manny to be traded, but I knew
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: it said he.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: Had to go. It was time.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: It was time. He had to fucking go.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: But I love Manny.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: It's like your guy.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: Can we just side note, the NFL allowing the Max
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: Crosby situation to happen is a fucking joke.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely. It was stupid.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: And then let's be realistic. They woke up in the morning.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: They were like, the Ravens, holy fuck. We're getting our
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: asses chewed out. We gave away too much. Oh, here's Hendrickson.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: We can get him a fucking.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: Faction of the Chiefs.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: Oh, fuck it.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: We're out.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: I agree with Angelo 100%.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: And then the whole thing was, I didn't realize how
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: the physical worked. Of course he wasn't going to pass
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: the physical. He just got the fucking same surgery Arthur got. Right.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? My son. So he couldn't walk.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: It's bullshit.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: Listen, I 100% agree with you.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: I think the Patriots are in on him.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: I think the Ravens.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: You're going to give away two first-round picks?
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think you're going to get that for
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: him anymore.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: Then he stank. I'll tell you, if he at least won,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: then he stank. If that's the thing you're telling me,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: what do you think we're getting for him, a third?
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm not saying that.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: No, no, what do you think if he goes what
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: a fair trade is?
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: Honestly, just watching the NFL, a second and a fourth?
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: You're dealing with Mark Davis.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: He's not young.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: He's not young. He's coming out at least a first.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: And off of fucking surgery.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: A first and a second at minimum.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: I would never give that up.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, he does not leave the
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: Raiders unless a first is involved.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: I agree with that. He's asking what I would give up.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: No, no, but your question was, do you think he
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: gets traded? With those conditions, absolutely not. He'll finish his
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: career there.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but if someone does offer him a first and
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: a third, I think they'd actually take.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: But if you're him now, you waited all these fucking years,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: and you've got to feel like you're– because I watch interviews.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: With him on his podcast. How old is he now?
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: 30, 31?
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: I think he turned 31 in August. Okay.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, but does he get to the point where he's like,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: I'm sick of losing?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: No, he's probably there, and that's what happened with the trade.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: I think he was pumped, and even on his podcast
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: was like, fucking, I'm sitting in my phone drinking. Look
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: who the Raiders got. Because we got more activity in
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: the free agency than anybody. That's the other reason. That's
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: the other.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: Reason that the Raiders got screwed out of that is
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: they went out and built their free agency.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: Around the fact that they– Which I'm happy they did.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: Fuck it.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: Right, right, right.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: But now it's like you're sitting here and you're on
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: the brink. Like you got fucking Mendoza. If he's what
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: he said– now if we get another top ten pick
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: next year, which is feasible, now we build up even more.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: Like I don't see why he would want to leave.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: Right. This is what I hate about like nowadays too.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: Like Mendoza threw that fucking pick six in game two
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: I guess it was.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: And whatever.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: And now he's third string. And he had a bad
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: fucking camp.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: It's like, well, yeah, the kid's fucking, you know, like anyone,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: any rookie quarterback in the NFL. Like, you know, I'm
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: glad May didn't start right away. I'm glad they had
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: Jacoby Reset in there looking back at it. We all
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: wanted him to play. But, like, let him sit on
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: the sidelines and see the speed of the game and
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: all that shit.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: And then bring him in. You're not going to fucking
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: win anything this year.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: That's not what. That's not what you're designed to do.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: You're designed to fucking build a fucking team, create your
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: quarterback to, like, understand the game and build him up
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: and then get him weapons and get him a line and,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: you know, obviously build your defense.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: And with free agency, everything's crazy. The teams turn over
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: so much.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: But honestly, Ang, I don't know about Fernando because I
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: only saw him last year play.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: Me too.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: And he's in Vegas. I don't know if the nightlife
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: is going to bite him.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: He's a good Christian boy. That's like the boogeyman. He's
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: already said that. You don't go where the boogeyman is.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: Right, right, right. I get that. But I got to
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: see him play. I got to see him play.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: I can't make a judgment on him. Does he deserve
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: the number one pick?
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Yes. So what happened to us the year we drafted
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: Drake May is kind of, it's a little, you can
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: correlate it to the Raiders. We got to the point
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: where our coaching staff knew they were fucked. And their
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: only chance to win was to start throwing Drake May
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: out there and show signs that they could hang on
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: to their jobs. So I think it got to the
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: point where they had to play him. 100%.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: Clay Kubiak has no pressure.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: He doesn't, but I think at some point.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: He's good.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: But at some point, if they're, and I don't know
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: their schedule.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: But that's not going to be week eight. Like, Klingon
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: Jack's not going to fill the hot seat on week eight.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: He's got three years from now.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: He's fine.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: He's fine.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: No, it's not that. But, like, if they start one
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: and eight, and I don't know their schedule.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: I think when I say one and seven, I think
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: I said to Jeremy before we started one and seven.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, if they start one and seven, everybody's
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: going to be like, well, why the hell aren't we
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: playing Mendoza? And I think he gets in there. I
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: think that's how it happens.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: Go fucking sit in the whole year.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: Go one of 16 and then you get the number
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: one pick and then you trade it back because it's
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: this is the biggest. I've never seen a draft coming
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: up this year. That is so like Drake Mays class
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: was quarterback heavy. The first three picks for quarterbacks and
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: then you had other quarterbacks behind them. I've been the
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: first are like fucking seven first round quarterbacks coming next year.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: If you get the number one, two, or three pick,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: you are in the fucking catbird seat.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: You are like, okay, I want fucking two firsts, a second,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: a third for my pick because you're going to get
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: a franchise quarterback.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: Exactly. You want to suck this shit. Absolutely.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: And you already have the quarterback.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: And if we're doing what they're saying or whatever, week
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: 12 he comes out against who the fuck knows, the Titans.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: He blows his ACL or gets hurt. Now I've got
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: to wait another fucking year? Let him fucking wait. This
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: is the other offensive line.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing. The one thing, the quarterbacks, yeah,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: there's quarterbacks. But if the Raiders get the number one
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: overall pick and they don't draft that kid, Jeremiah Smith,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: from Ohio State, then whoever's running the show needs to
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: be fired.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: He's a quarterback?
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: No, he's a wide receiver.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: Oh, I thought he was another. Sorry. Again, I know
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: nothing about college.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: No, he is like an absolute, like, he's actually what
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: everybody said Marvin Harrison Jr. was supposed to be.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: A little bust. That is real quick. I looked up
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: the Rams. We all bet the Rams, so we never agree.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: It's plus 500. We all throw 50 on it. We
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: win 250 apiece. I'm in. If we put that in time.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: I'm in.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: Let me know. All right.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm in. All right.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: Done.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: So we touch on Lindsey Killian. Yeah.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: Let's finish on that. We're already at an hour 20.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: So the Red Sox start yet, by the way? They winning?
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: Just 7.05. 7.05.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: Isn't it?
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: What time is it now? 7.03. All right.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: Uh, so obviously the Lindsay Clancy case, uh, I kind
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: of got into it halfway because of my.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: Girlfriend and, uh, the shit's crazy. I don't want to
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: go too nuts on it, but it was a mistrial
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: and one guy held out.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: Uh, it was 11 for acquitting her and one for, uh,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: prosecuting her and one guilty.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: And, uh, that guy just wouldn't budge. Uh, I'm actually
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: proud of that guy. Yeah.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: I have delved into this, doom-scrolled this case for the
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: last two weeks. The husband is a douchebag. Doesn't mean
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: he's a fucking guilty of anything. But he got married
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: right away after fucking this shit happened. There's a lot
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: of commonalities between their friends. There's a lot of talk of,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: you know, her Apple Watch.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: His whereabouts. It's crazy.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: I can't wait for the Netflix documentary, but I feel
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: like I don't care about her.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: So send her away. If she's saying.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: She's I don't know if she's saying she did it
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: because she doesn't remember, but she is not denying she
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: did it. And the defense saying she did it and
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: the prosecution saying she did it.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: Just lock her up. Put her away. Because if she
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: wins this case, it's a bad day for children. Yeah,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: it's horrible.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: Everyone is going to jump on this bandwagon of, you know,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: over-prescribed drugs, crazy husbands, whatever, postpartum depression.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: I just.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: This is such a tricky topic. It's such a tricky case.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like anything else in America now.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: Everything's division. You know, the flock cameras. Everything's divided. Like,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: I don't understand where... there's people rallying for her to
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: be saved. If she's the actual one that do it.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: I don't get it. Like, here's the thing. Here's, here's
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: the thing. And like, I have not studied postpartum depression,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: but she had three kids. Why didn't like, and she,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: if she was going to have a psychotic episode, wouldn't
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: it have happened before that? And here's the other thing.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: If she had a, she had a psychotic episode, they
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: were all in different rooms. They were all in different
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: rooms and, She used exercise bands for all three of them.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: Supposedly one of the kids looked at her and said, Mommy,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: I can't breathe. And she still did it.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: But her fingerprints were only on one of them.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: See, that's where Kelly brings it in. Again, my girlfriend,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: I don't pay attention.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: I haven't paid attention. Go ahead.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: She said that her fingerprints weren't on any of the bands,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 4: but his were. So that's like her. Where's Liz with.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: This, Chris?
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: Liz, come.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: Here for a second.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: She sent me like five videos about this and she goes,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched anything. She thinks she should be guilty too,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: by the way. I just think– I.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: Think that's a consensus. Like just lock her away. What's
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: the difference?
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: The difference is here's the end to play devil's advocate.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: It's a landslide case. To play devil's advocate. The way
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: our country is built, I would rather let her go
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: free than– I would rather have one innocent or 100
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: guilty people go instead of one innocent person. So again,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 4: we haven't sat on the trial. If for some reason
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: she didn't do it, And I don't believe, I believe
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: she's guilty.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: But they admit she did it.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: But again, it's hearsay. Has she admitted she's done it? No.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm... Yes, she did.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: No, she didn't.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 4: That's where my sticking point is. No.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: No, she doesn't remember. So she's assuming she did it.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: So she's going along with it. So that's where the
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: defense ran with this case. My thing is, fucking lock
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: her up. Let's fucking... Now, focus our attention on the husband,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: and then if we find other evidence where maybe fucking.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: But why are we focusing on the husband?
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: Because he's a fucking piece of shit.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: Oh, so every piece of shit I should be up
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: for murder?
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: Murder?
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: Why? Do you have any... No, but you're saying he's a.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: Piece of shit.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: Is that grounds for bringing someone up on a fucking
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: murder charge? Listen... What does a piece of shit mean?
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: To your girlfriend's point, you have to look at a
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: lot of this evidence, Ang. I'm telling you. This dude
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: was up to something.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: But educate me. And I don't want to hear he
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: has a girlfriend. Who gives a fuck? No, no, no.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: He was basically cheating on her.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: Okay. That's not murder.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: They got married right after.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: That's not murder.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: The fucking timeline is what you got to look at.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: The timeline of when he left. He had her Apple
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: Watch or some shit.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: Where's Liz?
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: Is Liz here? So you think that he killed these
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: three kids and she was so fucking out of it
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: that she didn't know it?
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: So when she fucking jumped out of the window and
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: landed in the fucking snow in the middle of winter
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: and when the fucking EMTs found her, her fucking body
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: temperature was 82 degrees, which is hypothermia, she was able
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: to tell her husband when he got home picking up food,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: I killed the kids that were in the basement. When
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: the EMTs showed up there, Her trachea was broken from
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: the fall.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: She couldn't talk. So how was she able to say
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: that to her husband?
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: And that hasn't been brought up in this trial?
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: No, it's been brought up outside the trial because the
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: trial is just focused.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: On the other shit.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: Again, I don't know. I know, I know.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: And I don't really know either. But these are some
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: of the facts I read where I'm like, okay. I'm
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: still like, lock her the fuck up. I'm no problem
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: with that. But now I'm like, if you lock her
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: the fuck up now, let's not set a precedent where
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: fucking everyone's going to use this Clancy case.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: As, oh, I was given the wrong medicine. That's the
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: biggest problem.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: So lock her up. Then investigate this motherfucker. Go through it.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: They never even searched his fucking cell phone. They just
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: took him at his word. So to my point, now,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: lock her up, now investigate. And if five years down
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: the road, all the evidence is out and all the bullshit,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: and like, holy shit, she may be innocent, then.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: Bring her back and retry her and get another jury
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: and set her free.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: Like, I don't know.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: Like, I just don't want to see her winning this
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: because it's bad for children.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: But it's bad for children, but I think it's bad
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: for what you just said. So you're saying take a
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: potentially innocent person, Put them in jail for five years. Yep.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: And they could be innocent.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: By the facts of the case.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: Of the case they presented. But she was never charged. See,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: that's where I get nervous. Because now you're opening up
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: a gate where.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: What do you mean she was never charged?
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: You're telling me that she's not been found guilty. So
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: she's not guilty of any crime. Innocent until proven guilty. Right.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: But you're saying, fuck that, lock her up for five
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: years anyway.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: I'm saying.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: They put on a case that showed she was guilty.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: She's saying, I must have done it. The prosecution say
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: you did it. And the defense is saying she did it.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: She doesn't remember. So what I'm saying is, okay, lock her.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: The fuck up.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: Now, let's turn our attention.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: To this shit. Does she get to sue?
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: Because even if she gets off, she's going to a
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: mental institute.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: It's not like she's going home free.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 4: But why? Why?
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: Because that's her defense. That she's a part of depression,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: mental insanity. She's in no wheelchairs.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: She's going to be banging any.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: Dudes right now and procreating.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: But wait a minute. If she gets out, she has
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: the chance to, and that's why she should never get out.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: We put schizophrenics in jail when they murder people. What
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: the fuck's the difference? We used to. We used to.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 4: We should put everybody in jail that murders people. Agreed.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: Everybody. It's so convoluted, this case.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, this motherfucker that was seen two days ago,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: pictures with his new wife.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: Who cares?
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: Time out.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 4: He lost three kids, Ang. Okay, how long ago? 3,022. Okay,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 4: so four years. He's not allowed to walk down the
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 4: street and hold a girl's hand.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying he can't, but he's fucking smiling
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: and all this shit. During the trial of them talking
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: about how his kids were murdered.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 4: Well, that's different. Didn't he testify for her? Yeah, that's
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. First off, she's been sick for a while.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: Do you know what her job was?
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: What?
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: Delivering babies.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that. So the other thing is he
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: testified for her.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: Right, he defended her. But he defended her on a reason.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: Because it takes the heat off of fucking him.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: Regardless of anything.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: By the way, I got a B on my draft.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: I got a B.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 4: Ready?
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: First pick, Monterey Brown. Didn't pick him.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: Second pick, Kenneth Walker III. Definitely didn't pick him. Third pick,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: Chris Alavi. Didn't pick him. Fourth pick, Love, the running back.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: Didn't pick him.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: Like him.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: And I'm mad with that. Durden, Burden. Burden III. Wide receiver, Chicago.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: Fifth pick.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 4: Luther.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: Luther. Didn't pick him. Warren, I did pick. Penn State boy.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: Love him. Bo Nix, I picked.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: We were live on Tate, I picked. Then I missed Brooks,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: running back, Carolina. Matt Stafford, I ended up picking him
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: as my backup. Josh Downs, Travis Kelsey as my fucking
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: backup tight end.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: That's not bad. No, that's not terrible.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: Concepcion, the rookie wide receiver out of Cincinnati. He actually
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: is supposed to be pretty good.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: Raven's defense and a kicker's Minnesota kicker, whatever the fuck
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: that is.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: All right, sorry. Back to fucking Lindsay. Fucking Lindsay.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: No, I just think it's, honestly, we can't let her walk.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: We can't.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: She murdered three children.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: She murdered three children. If you want to lock her
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: in a mental home, whatever.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: This is my point.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: Lock her up now, and if we find out later
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: she didn't do it and the husband had something to
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: do with it, then we'll fucking readdress it.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: What'd you do?
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: According to the facts of this trial, she should be
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: in jail.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: Shit. The prosecution proved that she murdered these kids. So
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: regardless of why, she.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: Should be locked up.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: Hold on a second. I don't know if they proved that.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: There's no fingerprints on the fucking bands.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: Gasper stole a home run. Yeah, what's the score? 1-0.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: Let's go, Gasper!
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: I think he let off, right? He was the leadoff hitter?
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: What is he?
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: He had the third highest OPS in a month behind
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: Ted Williams and Barry Bonds.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: Is that crazy or what?
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: I know. Mickey fucking Gasper.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: Mickey Gasper.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: Granted, it wasn't a full month, but... Who does he.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: Get put on the playoff roster over? Is he your
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: backup catcher?
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: Rushman starts all games. Yeah, why not?
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: Why not?
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: Why let him DH?
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: Well, Rushman's a switch hitter, though, so.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: No, but the reason I'm saying backup catcher is he
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: takes that position and Adley catches.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, like, instead of putting Connor Wong
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: on the roster... Arthur hates.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: We all hate Connor Wong.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: It's like a running joke.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: He has one home run in like seven years.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: You've met my son, so anything to nudge him. And
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 4: then he'll get like a single, like, there's Wong Dong,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: my fucking catcher, Wong Dong.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: You know what's funny about Wong, though?
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: Like every once in a while, he'll like a fucking
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: wall ball double that like scores the winning run.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 4: It's like an important, like he doesn't get bullshit hits.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: You know what's really sad about Connor Wong? He is
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: all we have left from the Mookie trade.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 3: Yep. It's sad.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: We've been at this an hour and a half.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: We've got to wrap this up. All right.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: So Clancy's is a whole new trial coming up. We've
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: got to deal with all that. We all agree the
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: Rams are probably winning the Super Bowl against the Patriots,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: the Patriots, and Buffalo, right?
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: And we all agree that if the Red Sox get
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: through the first round, they could win a World Series.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: The ceiling is the World Series. I don't think anyone
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: said they could win.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 4: They are. They are.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: If they get past the Yankees, I mean, that's a
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: lot of momentum, right?
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah. That's like my world. In 04, I thought we
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 4: were done. Yeah.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: All right, boys.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much. This was so much fun, as always. Actually,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: it was so simple.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: I got to get a picture.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: Hold on. Let's end the show, and then we'll do
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: the pick after.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: All right. Thanks for listening to Day Drink with Dog and.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: The Drive Home Podcast.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 4: Thanks for tuning in.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: Let's go. All right. Thanks so much, guys.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: Peace.