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"DUCHESS" SARAH FERGUGSON SPOTTED LEAVING LUX SKI REPORT AFTER EPSTEIN · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. The former Prince Andrew is
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Speaker 1: hiding out on royal grounds in a down graded home
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Speaker 1: after being kicked out of the Royal Lodge in the
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Speaker 1: wake of the Epstein scandal. There are demands in the
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Speaker 1: US for Prince I'm saying that with quotes Andrew to
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Speaker 1: come across the so called pond and testify to what
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Speaker 1: he knows about Epstein. But Epstein's evil tentacles have reached
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Speaker 1: beyond Prince Andrew and now the so called Duchess Sarah Ferguson,
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Speaker 1: his former wife, breaking cover for the first time in
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Speaker 1: months since the Epstein scandal broke again. She's been hiding
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Speaker 1: out at a quote luxury ski resort in Austria. What
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Speaker 1: I'm surprised the whole kitting GABOOTLRN in jail. I'm Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us. Sarah Ferguson was stripped of her Duchess
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Speaker 1: of York title in the wake of her links to
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Speaker 1: child molester Jeffrey Epstein. And remember she was still fraternizing
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Speaker 1: with him and bringing her two girls around him after
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Speaker 1: his conviction on child molestation. Now we learn that Fergie,
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Speaker 1: as she's known far and wide, seemed expressionless as she
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Speaker 1: walked from a chalet at a luxury alpine ski resort. Hey,
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Speaker 1: that ain't shabby. The weight of the Epstein revelations are
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Speaker 1: apparent on her face, Pale, distraught, stony faced. She did, however,
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Speaker 1: emerge from black Mercedes. The only way many people recognized
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Speaker 1: her was she was wearing her signature Hoop earrings. I
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Speaker 1: could recognize her anywhere. I believe this is the first
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Speaker 1: time Fergie has been seen in public since last year.
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Speaker 1: Why mounting calls for her to come to the US
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Speaker 1: and testify along with her husband, Prince Andrew, about evidence
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Speaker 1: and the relationship she had with Epstein and what, if
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Speaker 1: anything she knew. These are the facts surrounding her husband,
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Speaker 1: the former Prince Andrew, suspected in the molestation of Virginia Giffrey,
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Speaker 1: now deceased. Out of the Blue, Virginia Giffray's book drops
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Speaker 1: coincidentally the night before Andrew gets stripped of all of
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Speaker 1: his titles. Timing, timing, Wow, what timing? And now Prince
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Speaker 1: Andrew's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and Gilaine Maxwell.
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Speaker 2: It was it was very gently bubbling.
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Speaker 1: It has boiled over and now the king as in
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Speaker 1: King Charles is being heckled because of his baby brother.
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Speaker 1: Listen that from our friends as Sky News. If you
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Speaker 1: couldn't understand the heckler he's yelling out? Have you asked
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Speaker 1: the police to cover up for Andrew? How long have
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Speaker 1: you known about Andrew and Epstein? Look, I'm happily an American.
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Speaker 1: I don't want a king, or a prince or a princess,
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Speaker 1: none of that. That's for Disney, okay. But when you
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Speaker 1: have a book published by a six trafficking victim, Virginia
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Speaker 1: Geoffrey and coincidentally, that very week Prince Andrew is stripped
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Speaker 1: of his titles, don't tell me that her book, posthumously publicized,
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Speaker 1: had nothing to do with Andrew's downfall. My question is
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Speaker 1: how can this help the actual sex molization victims? That's
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Speaker 1: what this is all about. How disgusting is it to
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Speaker 1: Barry Levine joining us he is the author of a
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Speaker 1: brand new book. It's incredible the spider inside the tangle
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Speaker 1: web of Jeffrey Epstein and Glaine Maxwell. It's amazing when
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Speaker 1: you hear that Epstein had moved a billion b as
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Speaker 1: in brother billion dollars.
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Speaker 2: Where did he get that?
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Speaker 1: I guarantee you we will discover it's from trafficking little girls,
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Speaker 1: including America little girls. Any little girl is bad enough.
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Speaker 1: Why I said American is because we have jurisdiction over that.
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Speaker 1: I can't help what Turkey and the Stans are doing Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan,
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Speaker 1: what they're doing with their children. I can't prosecute that,
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Speaker 1: But I can help prosecute what was done to American
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Speaker 1: children at the hands of Epstein. A billion dollars Levin,
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Speaker 1: probably more enough to make JP Morgan.
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Speaker 2: Have a multimillion dollar settlement.
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Speaker 1: You know they would not have done that if there
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Speaker 1: had not been fire underneath that smoke. But Barry Levine,
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Speaker 1: how disgusted must the British public be about right now?
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Speaker 2: To note that andrew was.
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Speaker 1: Still chatting and texting and emailing with Epstein after his
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Speaker 1: Palm Beach conviction. Really say one of the words will
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Speaker 1: play more soon. I want to vomit play molest little.
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Speaker 3: Girls, Nancy. He said he wanted to continue to have
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Speaker 3: fun with Jeffrey Epstein. That's the word he used, was fun. Now.
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Speaker 3: These email disclosures came after Prince Andrews said that he
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Speaker 3: had cut off all communication with Jeffrey Epstein. He traveled
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Speaker 3: to New York. There was a photo of the two
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Speaker 3: of them in Central Park together. He said that was it.
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Speaker 3: He said, he told Jeffrey Epstein goodbye. Now we're learning
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Speaker 3: and we're seeing emails where Prince Andrew was continuing to
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Speaker 3: communicate with Jeffrey Epstein when the photo of Andrew and
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Speaker 3: Virginia Jeffrey came out standing in Gilay Maxwell's townhouse in London,
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Speaker 3: a photo that Jeffrey Epstein took. Andrew told Epstein, we'll
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Speaker 3: get through this together and then we'll have fun again.
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Speaker 3: It is absolutely disgusting. And I hope now that he
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Speaker 3: has been stripped of these ridiculous royal titles that he
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Speaker 3: had that he never deserved in the first place, that maybe,
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Speaker 3: just maybe the authorities over there will pull up their
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Speaker 3: pants and actually investigate him. He had a security detail,
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Speaker 3: Special Operations fourteen. They need to be investigated.
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Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you this, Lavaine, if it finally
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Speaker 1: comes to light. They are allegations right now that Prince
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Speaker 1: Andrew ordered Scotland Yard Scotland Yard be ashamed. And I
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Speaker 1: never said that. I have great respect for Scotland yard.
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Speaker 1: He asked them to investigate Virginia Giffrey to sneer her
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Speaker 1: when her allegations came out, misused law enforcement for his
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Speaker 1: own personal ill motives.
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Speaker 2: Hey listen to this.
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Speaker 4: Just a few short months after Epstein walks free, Prince
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Speaker 4: Andrew corresponds with a convicted sex offender, promising to make
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Speaker 4: plans for a trip to New York as it would
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Speaker 4: be good to catch up in person. Andrew claims his
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Speaker 4: December trip to Epstein's New York mansion was planned solely
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Speaker 4: to break the news he must cut contact with the financier. However,
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Speaker 4: in a January email to Epstein, Andrew writes, keep in
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Speaker 4: close touch and we'll play some more soon with four exclamation.
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Speaker 1: Points, really straight out to Lynn Shaw, she is in
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Speaker 1: DC right now lobbying fighting for the release of the
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Speaker 1: Epstein files.
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Speaker 2: I never thought i'd see the day.
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Speaker 1: When we had to go to Washington and demand a
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Speaker 1: child sex molester's files become public. What is this Russia
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Speaker 1: China where there are secret dealings behind closed doors?
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Speaker 2: O he double l n oh.
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Speaker 1: I ain't shutting up about this. God bless you Lynshaw
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Speaker 1: for being in DC fighting for the release of those files.
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Speaker 1: But I want to By the way, Lynshaw founded Director
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Speaker 1: Lynn's Warriors, which is dedicated to eradicating sex trafficking of
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Speaker 1: girls and women and more. But did you notice the
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Speaker 1: way and the timing of Andrew Prince Andrew. It's like
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Speaker 1: I just a you know, a hairball trying to say
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Speaker 1: Prince Andrew.
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Speaker 2: The timing is.
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Speaker 1: After the Palm Beach debacle, and I'm about to go
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Speaker 1: to Greg Morris, who is joining us from Palm Beach
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Speaker 1: on this after that he knows, he knows Epstein is
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Speaker 1: a child molester.
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Speaker 2: He knows that.
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Speaker 1: But that said, play again soon, talk about minimizing pain
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Speaker 1: and suffering.
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Speaker 5: I am disgusted with this whole story. It really means
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Speaker 5: nothing for us in Washington, in the United States, fighting
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Speaker 5: for our victims of not only these criminals but also
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Speaker 5: all victims of sexual exploitation. What it does, why this
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Speaker 5: does matter, though, is because it keeps it out there,
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Speaker 5: the narrative. It keeps it in the headlines, It keeps
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Speaker 5: people talking about it. But we only care about to
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Speaker 5: be in Washington and to have a client list. The
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Speaker 5: whole thing called a hoax, to have people fighting, to
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Speaker 5: have people saying we have it all on our desk
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Speaker 5: and we're going to release it and they've done zero,
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Speaker 5: So we demand that they open this up for America.
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Speaker 5: We want files, we want accountability, we want to bring
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Speaker 5: people to trial. How about we don't talk about so
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Speaker 5: many things here in America. There's Zoro Ranch and all
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Speaker 5: of those complicit who participated in that, the buyers of
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Speaker 5: all this, I'm going to call them buyers because I'm
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Speaker 5: sure money was exchanged, because none of these people do
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Speaker 5: anything unless there's financial incentive monies involved. So, you know what,
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Speaker 5: this may be great and Buckingham Palace put out a cute,
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Speaker 5: little nice announcement the other day that they stand with
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Speaker 5: all victims survivors, but you know who didn't sign off
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Speaker 5: on that, Andrew. Andrew is still in denial, so we
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Speaker 5: don't care about him. We care about all the girls
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Speaker 5: and women that have been victims of this for decades now,
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Speaker 5: and we demand answers and accountability.
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Speaker 1: Joining me, Doctor Bethany Marshall, renowned psycho analyst out of
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Speaker 1: la She's the author of deal Breaker. Still waiting on
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Speaker 1: that second bog Bethany get cracking. You can see her
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Speaker 1: on Peacock and find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot
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Speaker 1: com Doctor Bethany Marshall. I just had a physical reaction
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Speaker 1: as Lynn from Lynn's Warriors was talking. We were showing
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Speaker 1: photos of Epstein, and it was the reaction I often
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Speaker 1: had in court, particularly in child abuse cases.
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Speaker 2: I look over as a defendant.
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Speaker 1: Who was typically on my right side, and the injury
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Speaker 1: would be right beside me on my left, and they
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Speaker 1: would look so smug, like there's no way in HGBL
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Speaker 1: they're going to get caught, and I would actually an involuntary.
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Speaker 2: Reaction just go and I would fail.
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Speaker 1: Will turn up and discuss when I was looking at Epstein.
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Speaker 1: He looks so snug in every photo, and why not
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Speaker 1: because he's gotten away with this. Would you please tell
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Speaker 1: the listeners what child rape victims go through. They are
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Speaker 1: never the same, and he got away with it for years.
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Speaker 6: Okay, So I agree with Lynn forget about Andrew and
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Speaker 6: start thinking about the victims. Too much of the spotlight
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Speaker 6: is on Andrew. I'm going to talk for a second
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Speaker 6: about child victims. Let's not call them the Royal family.
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Speaker 6: This call them the mount Mountains. They are no different
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Speaker 6: than any other family. And if you work for child
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Speaker 6: protective services, you know is you can go to a
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Speaker 6: family that has a predator, an aunt and uncle, a cousin,
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Speaker 6: and they will say to the child protective services worker, Oh,
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Speaker 6: you know what, they're no.
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Speaker 5: Longer a part of our family. We've shuffled them off
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Speaker 5: to the side.
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Speaker 6: They're not going to be perpetrating on our family member
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Speaker 6: any longer. In the minute the child protective Services worker leaves,
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Speaker 6: that family member is shuffled right back into the mix.
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Speaker 5: So when we think about victims, we have to think about.
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Speaker 6: Their entire family, you know, family systems and the fact
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Speaker 6: that families work together to hold everybody together even if
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Speaker 6: there's a child predator.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's like that moment Out to Greg Morse
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Speaker 1: joining us, high profile lawyer, criminel defense attorney, founder of
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Speaker 1: Morse Legal. He is the author of Untested on Amazon.
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Speaker 1: Greg Morse is joining us from the Palm Beates jurisdiction. Greg,
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Speaker 1: question to you, now, I'd like a short answer.
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Speaker 2: This is over. You have nothing to fight with meut.
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Speaker 1: The sweetheart deal that Epstein got when in Palm Beach
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Speaker 1: he was prosecuted four molesting little girls, not just one, several,
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Speaker 1: he got a sweetheart deal. Tap on the wrist, and
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Speaker 1: he was allowed to be chiffeerd out of the jail
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Speaker 1: wherever he wanted to go, including his home where he
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Speaker 1: continued to molest children.
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Speaker 2: That was his sentence, and have to.
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Speaker 1: Come back at night and stay in jail occasionally.
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Speaker 2: That was his sentence.
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Speaker 1: And it wasn't a secret Andrew knew about it. And
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Speaker 1: it was after he was convicted that Andrew wrote all
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Speaker 1: of those emails about playing together soon. You join right,
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Speaker 1: his title should be stripped, he should be prosecuted.
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Speaker 2: What's the hold up, Morse?
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Speaker 7: Well, you know, with regard to Prince Andrew or former
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Speaker 7: Prince Andrew, at this time, a lot of time has
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Speaker 7: gone by, so you're trying to arrest or indict someone
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Speaker 7: for acts that were a long time ago. The fact
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Speaker 7: that he kept talking to Jeffrey Epstein after he was
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Speaker 7: a known sex trafficker and was convicted doesn't make him
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Speaker 7: any more guilty of allegations that were made against Prince Andrew.
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Speaker 7: You know. The one thing though, for Prince Andrew or
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Speaker 7: for former Prince Andrew that could be an issue is
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Speaker 7: that he was stripped of his royal title. He may
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Speaker 7: then be stripped of any diplomatic protection. We have an
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Speaker 7: extradition treaty with England. I don't know if those matters
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Speaker 7: will come up. If there is an indictment in America
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Speaker 7: seeking former Prince Andrew, that could be an issue for him.
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Speaker 7: And it also seems like he was removed from the
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Speaker 7: one estate to go to a thirty one square mile
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Speaker 7: estate because of getting prostitutes during a business trip to Thailand.
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Speaker 8: So you actually staging that leaving a what fifty room
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Speaker 8: mansion downgraded to a smaller, for free royal home on
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Speaker 8: the Sandringham estate.
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Speaker 2: That's punishment.
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Speaker 7: No, I should just say that, No, we agree on
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Speaker 7: that's a joke. That's the royal family themselves. Every time
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Speaker 7: they're caught with some information, they try to do a
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Speaker 7: little bandiate on it with regard to Andrew Windsor.
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Speaker 1: But for Andrew's time, hold on, I got to throw
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Speaker 1: this to Harriet Alexander. Harry Alexander, I want to follow
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Speaker 1: up on what Morse is saying. Harriet is a senior
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Speaker 1: features writer dailymail dot com who has been breaking these
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Speaker 1: stories left and right.
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Speaker 2: Here's the problem.
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Speaker 1: They also threw Fergie Sarah Ferguson out on her ear.
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Speaker 1: She's got a lot of stories to tell and she's
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Speaker 1: desperate for money. She just inhales money like a vacuum cleaner,
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Speaker 1: just cases of champagne. Limma's waiting in the front yard
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Speaker 1: all day long for her to decide to go somewhere.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Just so Marie Antoinette that said she will want money
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Speaker 1: and what better way to get it than to do
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Speaker 1: a tell all book trashing the royal family. I mean,
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Speaker 1: they're not really my concern, but I can see that
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Speaker 1: coming a mile away. And you heard Morse playing dodgeball
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Speaker 1: again with me talking about emails, phone calls, visits with
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Speaker 1: Andrew and Epstein are not prosecutable.
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Speaker 2: He's right, but child molestation is.
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Speaker 1: Did you read it's probably your article in Dailymail that
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Speaker 1: exposed Prince Andrew's party where they actually had sex, toys,
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Speaker 1: lubricants kindom its sounds like Sean Combs stocking all the
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Speaker 1: bathrooms of his mansion and the British taxpayers are paying
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Speaker 1: for that.
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Speaker 2: Those were the party favors.
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Speaker 9: Right right, Yeah, that is part of the outrage in
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Speaker 9: the UK. The British taxpayers have been supporting this lifestyle
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Speaker 9: for so long. He's been a deeply unpopular figure in
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Speaker 9: Britain for many many years, but it's really come to
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Speaker 9: a head in the last couple of weeks, and he's
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Speaker 9: certainly somebody who I think will not be missed in
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Speaker 9: the public eye. It's not just that party at Sandringham,
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Speaker 9: which Andrew said was just a normal shooting party.
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Speaker 2: It obviously was anything.
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Speaker 9: But it's also come out that Andrew, believe it or not,
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Speaker 9: invited Jeffrey Epstein and Harvey Weinstein, as well as Gallaine
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Speaker 9: Maxwell to his daughter's eighteenth birthday party back in two
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Speaker 9: thousand and six. And it's hard to think of any
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Speaker 9: figures who could be more unwelcome at an eighteenth birthday
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Speaker 9: party than those two.
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Speaker 1: Hold on, because tomorrow it's the tweens eighteen birthday and
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Speaker 1: I'm going to cook a big dinner and I'm making
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Speaker 1: a cake and cupcakes were really blowing it out, So
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Speaker 1: let me understand what you just said, Harriet Alexander Daily Mail.
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Speaker 1: For the eighteenth, the birthday for Princess Beatrice. Her father
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Speaker 1: Andrew invited Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein and Gulaine Maxwell
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Speaker 1: to her eighteen year old's birthday party. They were having
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Speaker 1: sex with eighteen year olds and much younger, as young
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Speaker 1: as twelve.
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Speaker 2: What happened right, right, absolutely, so.
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Speaker 9: It was a masked ball that was happening at Windsor Castle.
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Speaker 2: I mean it was a huge affair. There was a
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Speaker 2: lot of people there.
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Speaker 9: This was in two thousand and six, so you know,
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Speaker 9: for reference, Epstein's deal in Florida was two thousand and eight.
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Speaker 9: But still to invite Weinstein and Epstein to your daughter's
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Speaker 9: eighteenth birthday party, I mean it goes quite a long way,
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Speaker 9: I think to show how close they all were, how
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Speaker 9: much time they all spent together, how they were very,
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Speaker 9: very connected, and of course in hindsight, that's incredibly disturbing.
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Speaker 2: Harriet, I want you to hear this allegation.
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Speaker 4: The Met Police are investigating claims that Prince Andrew tried
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Speaker 4: to involve his tax funded Met Protection officer and Queen
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Speaker 4: Elizabeth's deputy press secretary in a smear campaign against Virginia Geffrey.
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Speaker 4: Andrew provided his bodyguard with Jeffrey's birth date and social
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Speaker 4: security number in an email, requesting he dig up dirt
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Speaker 4: on the young woman. In another email, Andrew told Secretary
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Speaker 4: Ed Perkins his guard was working on the Geffray problem,
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Speaker 4: adding she may have a criminal record and.
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Speaker 10: I do hope that the authorities will actually pursue some
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Speaker 10: of these investigations, they will bring charges, and I think
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Speaker 10: if they do so, there was a very good chance
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Speaker 10: that both he and Sarah Ferguson may well go to prison.
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Speaker 1: Devern my friends at talk TV, Okay, Harriet using the
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Speaker 1: MET which is the Metropolitan Police in Great Britain to
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Speaker 1: investigate your child Mole Station victim in order to smear her.
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Speaker 2: That is wrong on so many levels.
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Speaker 1: Now we cannot prove at this juncture what happened, which
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Speaker 1: Virginia's afraid because she has passed away, cannot be cross examined,
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Speaker 1: so that cannot be brought forward a trial. You have
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Speaker 1: a six moment right to cross examine and witnesses against you,
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Speaker 1: period the end. But the allegations that Andrew used the
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Speaker 1: Met used Scotland Yard to try to smear a child
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Speaker 1: wol Station victim, that's a whole nother can of worms.
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Speaker 9: Harriet, Yeah, absolutely, and it's something that the British public
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Speaker 9: want to know. Andrew Lownie, who was speaking just then,
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Speaker 9: he is a respected historian, a biographer who's written a
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Speaker 9: book about the House of York, of which Andrew of
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Speaker 9: course was formerly the head, and he is saying that
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Speaker 9: he believes there could be actually criminal charges brought against
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Speaker 9: Andrew for this in particular, but this in particular for
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Speaker 9: using the Metropolitan Police and his protection detail to dig
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Speaker 9: up dirt essentially on Virginia Guphrey. That might be you
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Speaker 9: might be able to prosecute for that, because of course,
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Speaker 9: you know, you can't prosecute for the alleged acts that happened,
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Speaker 9: because that was a it was a long time ago,
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Speaker 9: and also, sadly, Virginia is dead.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nitty Grace, the former Duchess of York,
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Speaker 1: hiding out in the wake of the Epstein scandal, far
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Speaker 1: off the radar after a treasure trove of documents released
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Speaker 1: by the DOJ the US Department of Justice, known as
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Speaker 1: the Epstein Fils, reveals damning communications between her and Epstein
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Speaker 1: the pedophile. How could she be around him so much?
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Speaker 1: And Andrew as well, with young girls going in and
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Speaker 1: out of his various domiciles.
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Speaker 11: Prince Andrew may face more than just disownment and eviction.
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Speaker 11: Republic a pressure group instructed lawyers to begin an investigation
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Speaker 11: into the Prince, with plans to mount a private prosecution
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Speaker 11: if they find evidence to substantiate the late Virginia Jewphrase
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Speaker 11: rape allegations. Andrew could face jail time if found guilty
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Speaker 11: in the criminal proceedings, and ex wife Sarah Ferguson could
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Speaker 11: be next.
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Speaker 10: If Virginia for his book is very powerful. It really
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Speaker 10: brings home the extent of what was going on and
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Speaker 10: the sense of entitlement and arrogance that they had that
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Speaker 10: somehow they could just do what they wanted and these
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Speaker 10: were just disposable people that they could.
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Speaker 1: Just just God that from our friends that talk TV
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Speaker 1: to Harriet Alexander, senior features writer, dailymail dot Com, let
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Speaker 1: me throw a little legal jargon at us. Legal jargon,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you have if that exists in
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Speaker 1: Great Britain, But Harriet Alexander, did you notice when Andrew
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Speaker 1: walked up and the other royals were there, he was
24:25
Speaker 1: totally legal phrase the tird and the punch bowl right,
24:31
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, they all look away, nobody wants
24:34
Speaker 1: to talk to him. It's very obvious they moved him
24:37
Speaker 1: one hundred miles away after Japhra's.
24:39
Speaker 2: Book came out.
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Speaker 1: That's all well and good, and he deserves so much
24:43
Speaker 1: more than just a public shaming.
24:46
Speaker 2: To what this group republic is.
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Speaker 1: It's a pressure group who wants to, of course see
24:51
Speaker 1: the monarchy abolished, but in the meantime they want Andrew
24:56
Speaker 1: prosecuted privately.
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Speaker 2: What is the that.
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Speaker 1: Is that the same as a civil lawsuit here in
25:02
Speaker 1: the US, I want to say, private prosecution look like
25:06
Speaker 1: in Great Britain.
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Speaker 9: So that is being carried out, as you say, by
25:11
Speaker 9: this group which is against the monarchy. I don't believe
25:15
Speaker 9: that case is going to have any possibility of going
25:19
Speaker 9: forwards because the person who would be there, the person
25:22
Speaker 9: who would be their main witness, the accuser, Virginia Dufrey,
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Speaker 9: by suicide earlier this year. So it's not going to
25:30
Speaker 9: be possible to prosecute Andrew for rape as they hope,
25:34
Speaker 9: because the person who would need to prove it is
25:36
Speaker 9: no longer with us.
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Speaker 2: But I do think.
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Speaker 9: They might have more luck trying to investigate what happened
25:43
Speaker 9: with Andrew using his taxpayer funded private to his taxpayer
25:47
Speaker 9: funded security detail to dig up information on her to
25:52
Speaker 9: try and discredit her. I think that's something that could
25:55
Speaker 9: be more profitable for people who want to see Andrew
25:58
Speaker 9: Facebook punishment.
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Speaker 1: Private investigator or a founder of Crispin Special Investigations, former
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Speaker 1: Federal Task Force for the USDJ former Homicide and Crimes
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Speaker 1: against Children investigator joining us near the Epstein Florida mansion.
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Speaker 1: You know, I especially wanted to go to you, Crispin,
26:17
Speaker 1: because you're there near Epstein's Florida mansion, not to be
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Speaker 1: mistaken with his New York mansion or his Virgin Islands
26:28
Speaker 1: mansion or any of the other mansions he's got all
26:30
Speaker 1: around the world. You know, us regular people, may I
26:33
Speaker 1: speak for you, like you and me. We don't like
26:37
Speaker 1: it when rich people take advantage of the police like
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Speaker 1: Epstein and Andrew have done, take advantage of children like
26:47
Speaker 1: Epstein and Andrew have done, and then think we're going
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Speaker 1: to excuse it because they're either American royalty because they're rich,
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Speaker 1: or they're British royalty.
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Speaker 2: I've about had it up to right here.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, in Nancy, I tell you there's a lot that
27:03
Speaker 12: has happened here in the town of Palm Beach. Just
27:06
Speaker 12: to kind of give you a little idea of where
27:08
Speaker 12: I am. Roth Avenator is right behind me, and a
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Speaker 12: couple streets south of that is where Epstein's mansion used
27:15
Speaker 12: to be, and then a few streets south of that
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Speaker 12: is Trump's mol Lago Tom Hound. So since this all
27:25
Speaker 12: has transpired, since all this has happened with Epstein, this
27:29
Speaker 12: property has gone through two owners, the first owner or
27:32
Speaker 12: you're still right away. He put in plans to Palm
27:35
Speaker 12: Beach to build a modern home that he got rejected
27:39
Speaker 12: because Palm Beach doesn't want modern homes. A lot of people.
27:42
Speaker 12: If I don't know this, but in Palm Beach, if
27:45
Speaker 12: you go to build a house, your neighbors in the
27:48
Speaker 12: town of Palm Beach has to kind of all sign
27:51
Speaker 12: off that they're okay with you building a modern home
27:55
Speaker 12: in an area that doesn't have any and it's got
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Speaker 12: such character of everything else brought a modern home.
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Speaker 1: So going from a Shanspy Crispin Paul, I love your
28:05
Speaker 1: monologue on the architecture requests. I'm really really stinking rich
28:09
Speaker 1: people down at Palmmates. Can we get to the cham
28:13
Speaker 1: Molea station and the fact that nothing's been done about it?
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Speaker 12: So, Nancy, this address used to be three six eight
28:19
Speaker 12: al brill Ray on Palm Beach Island. The new owners
28:23
Speaker 12: were able to get a brand new address of three
28:25
Speaker 12: six zero lbrill Array. Why because they've been won anything
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Speaker 12: related to Jeffrey Epstein, the cha molestation cases that occurred here,
28:35
Speaker 12: and everything.
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Speaker 13: Else that put a blocked stain on Palm Beach Island.
28:39
Speaker 13: Everything from grass, the trees, the dirt, the dot has
28:44
Speaker 13: been gone lifted out. There's not one iota a property
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Speaker 13: belonging to Jeffrey Epstein or anything to do with any
28:54
Speaker 13: of these hangs crimes against children.
28:56
Speaker 12: That are left on this property.
28:57
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting, so many things, doctor Bethany Marshall.
29:01
Speaker 1: And I'm about to go to Barry Levine on the
29:02
Speaker 1: money trail. That may be the only way we get
29:05
Speaker 1: Andrew or any of Epstein's cohorts. Doctor Bethany Marshall, you
29:10
Speaker 1: just heard Crispin. He's standing out. Did you see that
29:12
Speaker 1: multimillion dollar view that Epstein had? But you know what
29:16
Speaker 1: that view stinks when you think about him bringing these
29:19
Speaker 1: little children, little girls, little girls.
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Speaker 2: Think about it.
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Speaker 1: You saw You've watched my little girl grow up from
29:27
Speaker 1: the time she was born in Anthony. You've known her.
29:30
Speaker 1: Can you imagine some pos abusing her in that massage
29:38
Speaker 1: room looking out over that beach. They can all go
29:41
Speaker 1: straight to h double l riding a pitchfork. As far
29:45
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, But that said, at some point, regular
29:50
Speaker 1: people like me, like Crispin, We're not going to stand
29:55
Speaker 1: by and let this continue. They're standing for it over
29:59
Speaker 1: in Great Britain, but not here. No, and I don't
30:03
Speaker 1: understand why we can't get the release of those files
30:05
Speaker 1: and why nothing is happening for paint Saint Lynshaw has
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Speaker 1: to go with a torch outside the White House up
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Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill to try to get some action.
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Speaker 2: I don't get it. They it's Marie Antoinette all over again.
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Speaker 6: You know what's interesting and actually disturbing to me, Nancy,
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Speaker 6: is that these neighbors are observing a crime scene. Okay,
30:28
Speaker 6: they're observing something in their neighborhood that really was criminal
30:33
Speaker 6: and children were abused as young as twelve years of age.
30:37
Speaker 6: And the fact that they would change the address means
30:40
Speaker 6: that they're trying to wash their hands of the whole thing.
30:43
Speaker 6: Why why don't these neighbors come forward, go to court
30:48
Speaker 6: right right there, local representative and talk a little bit
30:51
Speaker 6: about the cars that they saw coming and going.
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Speaker 2: Who was a car?
30:55
Speaker 5: What with a license plates?
30:56
Speaker 6: I'm sure they have, you know, security cameras on their homes.
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Speaker 6: What did they what do those security cameras, what did
31:04
Speaker 6: they record? So these neighbors who are trying to sanitize
31:09
Speaker 6: their community, it's no different than what I said earlier
31:12
Speaker 6: about any other family that has the lecherous aunt or
31:15
Speaker 6: uncle or somebody, where they try to protect that person
31:18
Speaker 6: rather than coming forward and bringing the ill deeds to
31:23
Speaker 6: light to protect the younger members of the family. So
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Speaker 6: I just really disturbed that these neighbors are taking this
31:30
Speaker 6: course of action.
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Speaker 14: The photograph has taken upstairs, and I don't think I
31:34
Speaker 14: have a went upstairs.
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Speaker 10: It's devastation.
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Speaker 5: He's already lost these titles.
31:39
Speaker 14: He's still a prince, he's no longer the Duke of York,
31:41
Speaker 14: and he's no longer his royal heart.
31:43
Speaker 2: And excuse me, you know he's lost all his titles.
31:48
Speaker 2: He's living rep free and the Royal Lodge. I want
31:52
Speaker 2: to hear about any of.
31:53
Speaker 1: His suffering as a prosecution across the ocean possible for
31:57
Speaker 1: andrew stunning revelations over the last seventy two hours. In
32:03
Speaker 1: my mind, it means even the royal family smells the
32:08
Speaker 1: stench from Andrew's lies. Now, how does that correlate to
32:13
Speaker 1: action in the US? What about a prosecution for manipulating
32:21
Speaker 1: manipulating the law enforcement the met Scotland yard to smear
32:28
Speaker 1: Virginia Jeffrey. That said, now we've got a powerhouse involved
32:35
Speaker 1: in the US that is in the form of major
32:38
Speaker 1: banking institutions are now dragged into this. But to Harriet Alexander,
32:43
Speaker 1: senior features writer, deal email dot com, what's the possibility
32:47
Speaker 1: now that the British public smells blood there will be
32:52
Speaker 1: a prosecution or will it be covered up for at
32:55
Speaker 1: least Andrew allegedly using the met Metropolitan Police got one
33:00
Speaker 1: yard to smear Giffray.
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Speaker 9: So it's certainly something that a lot of people want
33:06
Speaker 9: looking into about whether Andrew, as alleged, did pressure his
33:11
Speaker 9: private security officer to look into Virginia Roberts Gufrey to
33:17
Speaker 9: see if he could dig up dirt and discredit her.
33:20
Speaker 9: I think that's something that authorities in the UK will
33:23
Speaker 9: be under a lot of pressure to investigate. I think
33:26
Speaker 9: there's also growing questions about about why is not why
33:30
Speaker 9: more is not being done in the United States because
33:33
Speaker 9: I think, you know, to Lin's point, that this keeps
33:36
Speaker 9: everything in the news, It's got everybody talking about it,
33:39
Speaker 9: and it keeps pressure on the US authorities to release
33:43
Speaker 9: more of their files, because it's worth noting that so far,
33:46
Speaker 9: the only people who who have really faced significant penalties
33:51
Speaker 9: in a way are Andrew Gilaine Maxwell who's in prison,
33:56
Speaker 9: Peter mc Andleson, who is the fabassador to Washington, DC.
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Speaker 2: He lost his job over this because.
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Speaker 9: He was friends with Epstein, and an American banker, Jess Staley,
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Speaker 9: who was working at JP Morgan. He was in London
34:12
Speaker 9: with Barclay's Bank, and he lost his job as a
34:15
Speaker 9: result of the work that he did with Epstein at
34:18
Speaker 9: JP Morgan back then.
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Speaker 2: So there are things happening in the UK, but I think.
34:23
Speaker 9: People owned even in the UK, are beginning to ask
34:26
Speaker 9: why more is not being done in the US to
34:29
Speaker 9: pursue people who were supporting Epstein and in some cases
34:33
Speaker 9: clients I.
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Speaker 1: Agree though, supporting Epstein and his child sex trafficking. That
34:40
Speaker 1: would be reportedly the Bank of America and the Bag
34:43
Speaker 1: of New York, Melon and JP Morgan. Enter Barry Levine,
34:49
Speaker 1: who has documented endlessly the spider inside the tangle web
34:56
Speaker 1: of Jeffrey Epstein, Angelain Maxwell, listen to this Mary.
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Speaker 15: New lawsuits shed light on Epstein's trafficking ring. Anonymous plaintives
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Speaker 15: file against Bank of America and Bank of New York Mellon,
35:07
Speaker 15: claiming the institutions illicitly enabled Epstein's trafficking. Both banks accused
35:12
Speaker 15: of ignoring the illegal activity. Bank of America turning a
35:16
Speaker 15: blind eye to Epstein's use of a victim's account to
35:18
Speaker 15: pay her and other victims off, and Mellon failing to
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Speaker 15: flag nearly three hundred and seventy eight million dollars in
35:24
Speaker 15: victim payments as suspicious.
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Speaker 1: Three hundred and seventy eight million dollars for victim payments
35:34
Speaker 1: and nobody said a word. In a nutshell, Barry Levine,
35:38
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just a trial lawyer. Break it down
35:41
Speaker 1: for me. What the banks allegedly did wrong.
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Speaker 3: What the banks did wrong, Nancy, was that they looked
35:48
Speaker 3: the other way. Going back to two thousand and two,
35:51
Speaker 3: over over one billion dollars of moneys that Jeffrey Epstein
35:56
Speaker 3: withdrew to pay off enablers around the world and also
36:00
Speaker 3: to pay off victims. These suspicious activity reports were completely
36:05
Speaker 3: you know, red lights for multiple banks. But because Jeffrey
36:09
Speaker 3: Epstein brought in so many of his wealthy clients, these
36:13
Speaker 3: banks managed to look the other way and this sex
36:16
Speaker 3: trafficking was able to continue for two decades. It's only
36:20
Speaker 3: now that we're finally looking back at all of the
36:24
Speaker 3: financial reports and Representative Tom Massey is hoping to prosecute
36:29
Speaker 3: nineteen men that he has identified who were sex trafficked to.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Barry, you're super smart and your book is amazing,
36:41
Speaker 1: I said, dummy down.
36:43
Speaker 2: You didn't really dummy down.
36:44
Speaker 1: What I think you just said is these banks knew
36:49
Speaker 1: Epstein was conducting nefarious activity, specifically child trafficking, child sex trafficking,
36:57
Speaker 1: and on the money flow following the money, you can
37:01
Speaker 1: determine who was sending him girls as young as twelve
37:06
Speaker 1: and who he was paying.
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Speaker 2: That is the.
37:11
Speaker 1: Significance of those financial transactions. What, dummy down can I learn?
37:17
Speaker 1: I would have to work with you a really long
37:19
Speaker 1: time to put you on the stand. Okay, no offense,
37:22
Speaker 1: but you're just too smart for the rest of us. Again,
37:25
Speaker 1: dummy down, What can I learn one, two, three from
37:28
Speaker 1: these financial transactions?
37:30
Speaker 2: And you know they did it because they.
37:32
Speaker 1: Entered multi million dollar settlements to make it go away, right,
37:38
Speaker 1: So what am I going to get from the financial transactions?
37:42
Speaker 3: What we're getting, Nancy, from the financial transactions is actual
37:47
Speaker 3: details and dates of the men and teaments that Jeffrey
37:51
Speaker 3: Epstein made.
37:58
Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Gray, the former Duchess of York,
38:06
Speaker 1: Sarah Ferguson keeping a low profile in the Swiss Alps,
38:12
Speaker 1: trying to stay out of public view, hoping that the
38:16
Speaker 1: scandal will blow over. Guess what, It's not blowing over,
38:21
Speaker 1: at least not here in the US. And this is
38:24
Speaker 1: why Sidney Summer joining me Crime Stories Investigative Reporter. A
38:29
Speaker 1: lot of these child molesters victims are still alive. Some
38:35
Speaker 1: of them are the ones marching on Capitol Hill to
38:38
Speaker 1: get the fstem files released. They're alive, they can testify
38:42
Speaker 1: and let's say, commit suicide.
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Speaker 16: Sidney absolutely, Nancy. Remember the victims hosted a press conference
38:50
Speaker 16: on Capitol Hill just a few weeks ago and the
38:53
Speaker 16: stories were horrendous. Woman after woman stepped up to that
38:57
Speaker 16: microphone and shared what they expect experience under Epstein's sexual abuse.
39:04
Speaker 16: So there are many women who are still alive, available,
39:07
Speaker 16: wanting to give their testimony and working on compiling their
39:11
Speaker 16: own list of Epstein's client.
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Speaker 14: I don't believe it's a picture of me in London
39:17
Speaker 14: because when I when I go out in London. I
39:20
Speaker 14: wear a suit and a tie. That's what I would
39:24
Speaker 14: describe as those are my traveling clothes.
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Speaker 2: That's me.
39:27
Speaker 14: But whether that's my hand or whether that's the position,
39:32
Speaker 14: but I don't. I have simply no recollection of a
39:36
Speaker 14: photograph ever being.
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Speaker 2: Taken right from our friends at ABC.
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Speaker 1: In the last seventy two hours, Prince Andrew has been
39:45
Speaker 1: kicked out of the Royal Lodge and been stripped of
39:47
Speaker 1: all of his titles.
39:49
Speaker 2: But is that enough?
39:50
Speaker 1: The British public says no, and sex simalization victims say,
39:55
Speaker 1: we want him prosecuted on us soil, move a foot
40:01
Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill asking answer to come voluntarily to testify
40:07
Speaker 1: and proceedings. No one is going to forget this, largely
40:13
Speaker 1: because of this woman.
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Speaker 2: You said, take off your clothes.
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Speaker 17: I had these little girl undies on, like little hearts
40:21
Speaker 17: on them, I remember, and they were laughing at that
40:23
Speaker 17: because they liked that the younger you look, the better.
40:26
Speaker 2: It is turned into it turns very sexual.
40:29
Speaker 17: And it was abuse straight away from both of them.
40:34
Speaker 17: And sometimes he would just in front of them and
40:37
Speaker 17: rub his nipples. Sometimes he would have intercourse with them.
40:40
Speaker 17: Sometimes he'd make them, you know, give him.
40:45
Speaker 1: Laughing at a little girl because she has flowers on her underwear.
40:50
Speaker 1: That's where our friends at Lifetime and Miami, Harold, I mean,
40:54
Speaker 1: you know all of this legal.
40:55
Speaker 2: Back and forth, extradition, the Prince Royal law, blah blah.
41:00
Speaker 1: Robert Crispin joining us outside what was once Epstein's Florida mansion.
41:08
Speaker 1: You've done a lot of advice, including child prostitution.
41:13
Speaker 2: That's what it boils down to.
41:15
Speaker 1: That's what this is about up state in all of
41:18
Speaker 1: his rich clients that made this possible.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, they certainly facilitated all this. And I would subject
41:26
Speaker 12: or I would suggest that there's some more charges coming
41:29
Speaker 12: down the road. And I think he was stripped of
41:32
Speaker 12: everything overseas in whose titles overseas because the waw family knows,
41:37
Speaker 12: and they've been meeting or speaking with the government that
41:41
Speaker 12: charges are about to come down and it's going to
41:43
Speaker 12: look a lot better for their family when they say, hey,
41:46
Speaker 12: he's no longer part of our friendly we've stripped him
41:49
Speaker 12: of everything.
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Speaker 1: I mean to Mary Levine joining us authors despiteer inside
41:54
Speaker 1: the tangled web of Jeffrey Epstein and Glainne Maxwell two
41:57
Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety min billion dollars was a settlement
42:03
Speaker 1: from JP Morgan Chase two hundred and ninety million dollars
42:08
Speaker 1: and they agreed to implement anti sex trafficking measures. A bank,
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Speaker 1: a bank, a respectable bank, in the middle of a
42:18
Speaker 1: child sex trafficking scheme that should speak volumes to everybody.
42:24
Speaker 1: If that bank JP Morgan Chase paid nearly three hundred
42:29
Speaker 1: million dollars to make this go away, there's fire because
42:35
Speaker 1: I see smoke Levine.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and listen, Nancy, it's sad to think that that
42:43
Speaker 3: bank that three hundred million bucks to them. It's a
42:46
Speaker 3: drop in the bucket to them for the amount of
42:48
Speaker 3: money that Jeffrey Epstein helped them make over the decades
42:52
Speaker 3: by bringing in is billionaire buddies to plant their money
42:57
Speaker 3: in their bank. But the fact is, if there's any
43:00
Speaker 3: one thing that's a positive out of this, is that
43:03
Speaker 3: those bank records are now finally getting in the possession
43:08
Speaker 3: of the authorities who can go through each and every
43:11
Speaker 3: line and look at these suspicious payments that Jeffrey Epstein
43:15
Speaker 3: made and go after these men. Representative Thomas Massey knows
43:19
Speaker 3: of nineteen men. Senator Ryan Wyden has identified one billion
43:24
Speaker 3: dollars in suspicious wire transfers that Jeffrey Epstein made, and
43:29
Speaker 3: this was money didn't only go through the US banks.
43:32
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein was also moving money through Russian banks, and
43:36
Speaker 3: his executors of his estate complicated things for years. They
43:41
Speaker 3: created one hundred and fifty different bank account for Jeffrey
43:45
Speaker 3: Epstein to move his money through. So this was a
43:47
Speaker 3: wild maze and a wild web. And now it's only
43:51
Speaker 3: now that investigators are going through this. Let's hope that
43:54
Speaker 3: there's financial crimes that they can pinpoint and go after
43:58
Speaker 3: these men not only in the but the men who
44:01
Speaker 3: put the little girls on the planes to the Virgin Islands,
44:04
Speaker 3: who are overseas, who took money from Jeffrey Epstein.
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Speaker 1: Making millions of dollars from child sex trafficking. Epstein and
44:14
Speaker 1: Andrew is in the MiGs. But we are also learning
44:19
Speaker 1: this what is wrong with this woman?
44:22
Speaker 2: Listen.
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Speaker 4: Virginia Verse likens Glene Maxwell to Mary Poppins, but later
44:27
Speaker 4: learns Maxwell as a prideful, jealous woman. Virginia describes Maxwell's
44:31
Speaker 4: cruelty during three sumes, with Epstein slapping and hurting Virginia
44:35
Speaker 4: to assert her dominance. Maxwell also loves to brag about
44:39
Speaker 4: previous Romps wants positively giddy to share. She performed a
44:43
Speaker 4: sex act on George Clooney in a bathroom at a party.
44:46
Speaker 1: Okay again, I need a shrink and a drink and
44:49
Speaker 1: says I don't have a drink. I'll go with a shrink, Bethany,
44:52
Speaker 1: What is wrong with her? Of course Clooney denies this,
44:57
Speaker 1: but what is that ragging? She performed a act on Clooney?
45:02
Speaker 6: Why you know, Nancy, there's so much that's wrong with this.
45:06
Speaker 6: I mean, obviously their lives are completely sexualized.
45:09
Speaker 5: That's how they relate to everybody.
45:10
Speaker 6: This laughing at Virginia Geoffrey because she had little hearts
45:15
Speaker 6: on her underwear. That's actually is sadism. That's taking pain
45:20
Speaker 6: and causing pleasure. I mean, I'm sorry, taking pleasure and
45:23
Speaker 6: causing pain to another human being. I think Gilan Maxwell
45:28
Speaker 6: loved to have dominance over other women. I think she
45:30
Speaker 6: was envious and jealous of them. I think she thought
45:33
Speaker 6: that they had it coming to them, and I think
45:35
Speaker 6: it was sexually arousing to her that they were humiliated.
45:39
Speaker 6: I mean, and this is what we see in all
45:41
Speaker 6: of these sex cults, that you have this fearless leader
45:44
Speaker 6: that recruits other women who then dominates the women under them,
45:48
Speaker 6: and the actual domination is what is sexually exciting to
45:54
Speaker 6: we use.
45:55
Speaker 5: The word middleman. This is the middle woman.
45:57
Speaker 6: The middle woman finds it sexually excited to dominate more
46:01
Speaker 6: submissive females.
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Speaker 14: I can I've racked my brain. I'm thinking, oh, and
46:06
Speaker 14: I've said consistently and frequently that we never had any
46:15
Speaker 14: sort of sexual contact whatever.
46:17
Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth Rowling in her grave from our friends at BBC.
46:21
Speaker 1: Just recently, Sarah Ferguson tried to hide in the back
46:23
Speaker 1: of a car as she arrived at one of her
46:26
Speaker 1: granddaughter's christenings at Saint James's Palace. My, how the mighty
46:31
Speaker 1: have fallen? She is now hiding in the backseat of
46:34
Speaker 1: a car, married to a disgraced former duke, now stripped
46:40
Speaker 1: of his titles. What will become a fergie? Sarah Ferguson
46:46
Speaker 1: had been living with former husband Prince Andrew. He was
46:51
Speaker 1: thrown out of the royal lodge she departed. They had
46:55
Speaker 1: lived together for years since their divorce. Now, with nowhere
46:59
Speaker 1: to go high out, she is said to be in
47:02
Speaker 1: a quote fragile state over her fall from grace. I
47:07
Speaker 1: wonder how the molestation victims feel about that. We wait
47:14
Speaker 1: as justice unfolds. Nancy Grace Crime Stories, signing off, have
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Speaker 1: a wonderful Wednesday.
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Speaker 2: Goodbye friend,