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Ep. 24: Day After Thoughts on Loss to Texans | Jags A.M. Podcast · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: We got great players that have proven that they can
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  Speaker 1: play and play well in this league, and for some
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  Speaker 1: for some reason, right now, it's just not all clicking
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  Speaker 1: and we gotta we gotta figure that out. And I
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  Speaker 1: think leading and just it's still in confidence in those guys,
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  Speaker 1: but also, like I said, that sense of urgency of
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  Speaker 1: it's not all right, all right, we're getting to the
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  Speaker 1: point where it's not okay, like it's I get it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And I'm gonna miss some throws and you
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  Speaker 1: guys hold me accountable. I'm not gonna There's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: plays that I want back. There's you know, three or
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  Speaker 1: four today that I went back where I didn't do
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  Speaker 1: my job, and I expect the coaches to hold me
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  Speaker 1: accountable and they will. And I'm gonna hold the white
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  Speaker 1: outs of tight ends, the running backs to o line
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  Speaker 1: accountable as well for stuff that you know, they're not
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  Speaker 1: doing the best in their job. So we all no
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  Speaker 1: one can get their feelings hurt, and we don't have
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  Speaker 1: guys that do. But we all have to have that
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  Speaker 1: accountability and I think that's the biggest thing, and we
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  Speaker 1: all have to lead in that way of taking accountability
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  Speaker 1: for what we're doing.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely an accountability day for the Jaguars. Welcome to Jagxam.
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  Speaker 2: I'm ka Nannie Stevens, Brian Sexton, John Osier with us,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't think any of us expected what we
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  Speaker 2: saw against the Texans expectations and we got to just
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  Speaker 2: get rid of that because this team is somewhere. We
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  Speaker 2: didn't expect them.
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  Speaker 3: To be a walk into my car last night, and
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  Speaker 3: I just kind of flippantly said to somebody, and I
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  Speaker 3: realized it's true. If you'd taken me, if you had
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  Speaker 3: just gotten back from the future right gotten out of
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  Speaker 3: Marty mcflys Stlorean and told me, hey, I've been there.
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  Speaker 3: You know the Jaguars lose this game, and they lose
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  Speaker 3: by twenty points, I wouldn't have believed you. There's no
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  Speaker 3: way you could have told me that a team coming
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  Speaker 3: off a bad week of practice and a loss to
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  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl champs against a Houston Texans team that
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  Speaker 3: was playing with a rookie quarterback and without key players
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  Speaker 3: in key positions would not only win but beat the
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars as thoroughly as they did. I wouldn't have been
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  Speaker 3: able to believe you.
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  Speaker 2: And John, it was every facet of the game as well.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't you know before we're dragging on the offense,
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  Speaker 2: but it was everybody yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was stunningly everybody. I spent last
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  Speaker 4: night answering emails trying to figure out how to explain
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  Speaker 4: it really can't.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: It felt to me that they played with a lot
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  Speaker 4: of energy early, like I mean very early, and then
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  Speaker 4: when Calvin Ridley had the drop tough catch, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: a guy was brought here to make that play, and
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  Speaker 4: then the field goal and then it went the other way.
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  Speaker 4: It was almost like they were stunned for twenty five
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  Speaker 4: minutes of game time, and then you had the weird
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  Speaker 4: kickoff returning They were getting back into it, I thought
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  Speaker 4: Doug after the game was clearly sort of angry and
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  Speaker 4: maybe a little.
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  Speaker 5: At a loss for what had happened.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not saying a lot they can't figure it out,
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  Speaker 4: but sure a little stunned.
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  Speaker 5: And I think anybody would have been.
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  Speaker 3: No, and I'm gonna start questioning some mental toughness, right,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it feels and I asked Doug this at
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  Speaker 3: the end of the news conference. That gets between the
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  Speaker 3: years here, right, You could see that when they were
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  Speaker 3: in the huddle or at the line of scrimmage, there
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  Speaker 3: was something missing. And I know I was, you know,
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  Speaker 3: nebulous last week trying to put my finger on it,
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  Speaker 3: but I really I'm gonna say, I think it's time
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  Speaker 3: to start questioning. And I got the sense yesterday that
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  Speaker 3: both Trevor and Doug are questioning everyone around them and
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  Speaker 3: their mental toughness. And Trevor even said of himself, so,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if it's a matter of confidence, come on,
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  Speaker 3: they should have enough of that. How did they go
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  Speaker 3: from a team who figured out a way to win
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  Speaker 3: at the end of last year, right so many games
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  Speaker 3: where they just figured it out to a team that
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  Speaker 3: all of a sudden doesn't believe they could do it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think that's it. I think it's
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  Speaker 3: a good question. Could be asked all week long, and.
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  Speaker 2: Should It's a fair question to ask as well. Let's
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  Speaker 2: start off with our big things today, cold start. We've
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  Speaker 2: been talking a lot about a fast start, but as
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  Speaker 2: we mentioned that up and Calvin Ridley and things started
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  Speaker 2: to spiral after that, Doug tried to figure out what
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  Speaker 2: went wrong, and you talked about it, posting.
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  Speaker 6: You're seeing you're seeing you know, the drops, you're seeing,
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  Speaker 6: the the turnovers, you're seeing penalties, untimely penalties. You're seeing
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  Speaker 6: flashes of you know, excellence and brilliance and then then
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  Speaker 6: a setback. And it's just the consistency that we need
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  Speaker 6: needs to improve and it's not there right now. You know,
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  Speaker 6: We've got to continue to work and continue to get
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  Speaker 6: better and uh, you know, figure figure some things out.
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  Speaker 2: All credit to the Texans for taking advantage, but the
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars gave a lot of that to them. And it's
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  Speaker 2: got to be extra frustrating when you know you're the
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  Speaker 2: ones making the mistakes and giving away points and victories.
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  Speaker 3: At what point, Yeah, just I mean the drop is
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  Speaker 3: Doug you said, I mean he was brought here to
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  Speaker 3: make that catch, and that's a catch that an eleven
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  Speaker 3: million dollar receiver aspirations of being a twenty million dollar
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  Speaker 3: receiver in the future. Those guys make that catch. And
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  Speaker 3: then and then how about here's one that people think
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  Speaker 3: it forgotten. How about on third and short in your
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  Speaker 3: midfield on the Jaguars second drive where you have trevis
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  Speaker 3: Or traps Travis and Trevor colliding in the backfield. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you have a chance to get a first down here
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  Speaker 3: and keep the momentum going. And when does that happen?
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  Speaker 3: I mean just it made almost no sense and it
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  Speaker 3: just kept going and spiraling out of control.
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  Speaker 4: The strange and it takes a while to get to
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  Speaker 4: this stat but against Kansas City last week, five times
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  Speaker 4: past the fifty and the first half, six points. Yesterday
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  Speaker 4: four times past the fifty and the first half and
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  Speaker 4: no points. You had the fumble at the end of
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  Speaker 4: the half, the sheriff hands to the face that took
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  Speaker 4: away the fourth down. When you felt like they were
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  Speaker 4: getting back into it, they were scoring positions two field goals.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you don't get those six points early on
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  Speaker 4: the field goal attempts, and guess what if you have
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  Speaker 4: those when the kick return goes the other ways, eight
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  Speaker 4: point game instead of fourteen. It all those things matter
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  Speaker 4: and to not get points, I think Trevor said they
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  Speaker 4: didn't have a three and out, so the offense didn't
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  Speaker 4: feel like it couldn't do anything. It was just when
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  Speaker 4: it would get going all of a sudden, you know,
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  Speaker 4: mistake here and weird. But you can talk about it
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  Speaker 4: meat individually, but then the reality is you got to
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  Speaker 4: look at as a trend because it's happening every.
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  Speaker 2: Week, and for me this week, I think special teams
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  Speaker 2: surprised me a lot. For you know, missed kick, blocked kick,
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  Speaker 2: the fullback return, which we'll get to in the second block,
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  Speaker 2: and ridiculous. I don't even have words for that still,
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  Speaker 2: but I think just to see mistakes where we haven't
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  Speaker 2: seen them before, it's building on itself in the wrong direction.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you kept waiting, I know I did. I kept
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  Speaker 3: waiting for someone to put their foot down and something
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  Speaker 3: to change, right, because that's what we had seen from
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  Speaker 3: this team. And of course I havent Ingram said in
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  Speaker 3: the locker room after the game. You know, we're not
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  Speaker 3: the same team. We can't just assume that we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: be the same team. Okay, well they proved that yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Now they're not the same team that they were when
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  Speaker 3: last season ended. And you know, if I'm sitting here
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  Speaker 3: questioning again saying, why couldn't they turn things around? If
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  Speaker 3: they're doing that two totally different things, that's an issue.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think you did have a foot down moment
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  Speaker 4: at the start of the second half, and then the kickoff.
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  Speaker 4: It's funny, it's gonna go down. It's me of most
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  Speaker 4: players to get replayed. I understood that maybe even a
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  Speaker 4: little more than the two misses in the first half,
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  Speaker 4: because it was one of those weird plays where all
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  Speaker 4: a sudden, the balls on the ground and then everybody
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  Speaker 4: sort of collapses and he just popped outside and it
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  Speaker 4: became a numbers thing.
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  Speaker 5: It was.
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  Speaker 4: It was not good, but it was kind of one
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  Speaker 4: of those fluky things where you're like, okay, that it
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  Speaker 4: was a break that went against him, I thought more
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  Speaker 4: than you know, but.
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  Speaker 3: That it went against them on a day where everything
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  Speaker 3: was going yeah. I mean, they couldn't get momentum back.
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  Speaker 4: The block kicks and the miskicks in the first half.
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  Speaker 4: My guess is that that bothers them more than the
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  Speaker 4: return did. I'm talked maybe about that, but that would
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  Speaker 4: be my guess.
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  Speaker 2: I think that kick reaturns just timing, which was really tough.
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  Speaker 1: Oh not.
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  Speaker 2: Big thing Number two for us is the trenches. We
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  Speaker 2: talked last week about the offensive line being a concern
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  Speaker 2: for this team, but the defensive line struggled yesterday as well,
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  Speaker 2: and Dog talked about how you got to fix things
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  Speaker 2: on the line.
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  Speaker 6: We have to do better. We have to do better
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  Speaker 6: starts up front, starts with the offensive line on offense,
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  Speaker 6: starts with the defensive line on defense. It starts right there. Again,
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna say this again. We need to coach better,
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  Speaker 6: we need to play better, We need to execute better.
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  Speaker 6: Whether we are reading our press clippings. We need to
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  Speaker 6: get out of our own way right now. We need
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  Speaker 6: to evaluate ourselves, beginning with me, and we gotta figure
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  Speaker 6: out how to win the game.
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  Speaker 2: Are hard. Look in the mirror moments Doug mentioned both lines,
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  Speaker 2: offensive and defensive line, and you feel like it's affecting
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  Speaker 2: people around the lines as well. Like Trevor doesn't necessarily
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  Speaker 2: look totally comfortable in the pocket, the defense is not
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  Speaker 2: in the same place as the cornerback's trying to deal
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  Speaker 2: with the line. It's just I don't know if I
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  Speaker 2: have the words right. They had a backup line trying
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  Speaker 2: to figure it out as I talk.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm just they had a backup lift tackle, a
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  Speaker 3: backup lift guard, a backup center, and their number two
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  Speaker 3: right tackle in the game, and the Jaguars couldn't get
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  Speaker 3: enough pressure right the pass rush yet flip side right,
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  Speaker 3: they were playing with a that is an average group.
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  Speaker 3: No longer are those the JJ Watt Texans that dominate
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  Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. That's not a powerful group. And
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  Speaker 3: I kept thinking, as I looked all week long last week,
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  Speaker 3: here's where the Jaguars win this ballgame. John. They're gonna
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  Speaker 3: win it up front, which will give Trevor time to
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  Speaker 3: be able to calm down and get the passing offense
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  Speaker 3: into some sort of a rhythm, and the defense should
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  Speaker 3: be able to eight turnovers. Because I thought yesterday they
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  Speaker 3: would win up front. That's where I sit here this
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  Speaker 3: morning and go, Okay, who is this team?
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  Speaker 5: Yep?
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  Speaker 3: Because that's not the team I expected to see on
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  Speaker 3: the lines.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's what made it so odd to try
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  Speaker 4: to analyze because.
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  Speaker 5: They had.
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  Speaker 4: They had some runs stop for the most part, they
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  Speaker 4: ran with power I thought the Jaguars did, and that
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  Speaker 4: felt early on like they were enforcing their will at times.
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  Speaker 4: Usually that turns into a game long with time, and
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  Speaker 4: then he had time and then they would have moments
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  Speaker 4: where they would have three first downs and a drive
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  Speaker 4: E Tam would run well and then and then the
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  Speaker 4: drive dies of the thirty five.
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  Speaker 5: So it was this weird.
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  Speaker 4: Probably when you go back and look at film, there
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  Speaker 4: will be a bunch of players where they go, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: good stuff, and then at the end of the film session,
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  Speaker 4: but why didn't we win? You know, so some games
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  Speaker 4: are very easy to figure out. This one was a Again,
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  Speaker 4: I felt like I was copy and paste him from
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  Speaker 4: the week before because I just wrote missopportunities and mistakes,
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  Speaker 4: and that's what this team is right now for last
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  Speaker 4: two weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and it's worth noting you're playing without maybe your
• 11:10
  Speaker 3: best offensive lineman and Cam Robinson. Okay, he wasn't playing
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  Speaker 3: that well in August, but he is a highly paid
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  Speaker 3: left tackle and a guy who's played at a high
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  Speaker 3: level before. And on defense, you're playing without Devon Hamilton,
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  Speaker 3: who they just paid because of what he is able
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  Speaker 3: to do. So both those guys are sitting. I guess
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  Speaker 3: if you're looking for some ray of sunshine here in
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: the opening of the show, it's that next week we
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: can talk about how you can make some changes to
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  Speaker 3: the offensive line. You can get Cam back, you can
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: move Walker inside, you can put Tyler Shatley in at
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: center if he's ready to go. Physically, I think the
• 11:41
  Speaker 3: center is a problem for them right now. I think
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: Luke Fortner is going backwards more often than he's going forwards,
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  Speaker 3: and that's troubling for a guy that you expected to
• 11:48
  Speaker 3: take a step forward this year after starting all nineteen
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: games last year. At least you can talk before Buffalo
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  Speaker 3: about moving some guys and improving normally. At this time
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: end of the year, John Help is not on the way.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you don't have a lot of options. There's
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  Speaker 3: not someone on the street that's going to come in
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  Speaker 3: and save you. But the Jaguars do with Cam Robinson
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  Speaker 3: coming back in a week.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the offensive line is a little bit more of
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  Speaker 4: a thought for me than the defense wasn't good yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: The defensive line wasn't good yesterday. They weren't bad the
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  Speaker 4: first two games though.
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  Speaker 5: So I.
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  Speaker 4: Don't I doubt that they're ready to sort of throw
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  Speaker 4: in the towel in huge trade time.
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  Speaker 5: I think it fed the narrative people had.
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  Speaker 4: In the off season and it's a bad defensive line,
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  Speaker 4: but it didn't play that way the first two weeks.
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  Speaker 4: So let's see the next week or so that how
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  Speaker 4: it goes. The offensive line so far has been I
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: thought it'd be better, Yeah, I did.
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  Speaker 2: Our third big thing today is what was that? Because
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: as we mentioned some of them already. There's more than
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  Speaker 2: a few plays in this game that just you know,
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: had you scratching your head. For me. A lot of
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: them were the penalties and some of the special teams
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  Speaker 2: as well. But Trevor talked a little bit about what
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: went wrong in that game on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: You never want that to be the case. And it
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I mean, I'll say this, like, it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: matter who you play, when you play, where you play.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't execute and you do stuff like.
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  Speaker 3: That, you won't win a game. You won't beat anybody.
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  Speaker 1: And the way we play today, it's like we just
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  Speaker 1: can't expect to win playing that way. And there just
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  Speaker 1: has to be there has to be some give. There
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  Speaker 1: has to be an insurgency. It's just it's not okay
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  Speaker 1: to make the same mistakes that we've been making, to
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  Speaker 1: do to have the dumb penalties, to have the the
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  Speaker 1: bad place, to throw a pick, you know, and lay
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  Speaker 1: in the game like I did, Just to do stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that, it's like, it's not all right. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we all have to look in the mirror, take accountability,
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  Speaker 1: you know, take that and own it and move on.
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  Speaker 2: Mistakes are fine, Repeated mistakes are the problem here, and
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  Speaker 2: we're seeing you know, penalties really at the line making penalties,
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  Speaker 2: the offensive line making penalties as Trevor when you shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have been thrown that ball.
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  Speaker 3: How about Brandon McMahon, it's missing, I mean field goal.
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  Speaker 3: It was well within his range, ess and.
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  Speaker 2: He's brought in for his you know, he's a veteran kicker.
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  Speaker 3: That was the point right and Kyle he missed it?
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  Speaker 3: Why did? It was never going to go in. That's
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: when I turned to somebody. I went, oh boy, this
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  Speaker 3: thing is going out of control. We're talking to Marcus Stroudt,
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  Speaker 3: the three time Pro Bowl defensive tackle. It's like, how
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: does he miss that? Right? That's when I knew this
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  Speaker 3: thing is still not in the right rhythm. It's not
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  Speaker 3: in the right groove. Something's wrong.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah it again. I go back to that first drive
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  Speaker 5: and it was almost.
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  Speaker 4: To me maybe I hate psychoanalyzing a team like this
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  Speaker 4: because things happen during the game that we can't see.
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  Speaker 4: But you come out and you have all this energy,
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  Speaker 4: you get a good stop defensively early, and then you
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: have a play where the quarterback puts it right where
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  Speaker 4: he had to put it with your big time playmaker
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  Speaker 4: there on the goal line. If he catches that, that's
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: all over the highlight shows, right, that's what Sports Center
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  Speaker 4: play for. Rhydic, doesn't it misses that? And then all
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: of a sudden, to me, there's a feeling, well, we
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  Speaker 4: gave it our best shot, and that shouldn't be that
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  Speaker 4: feeling at that point, But that was a feeling I had.
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  Speaker 4: As soon as Texans went down and scored. You said, uh, seven,
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  Speaker 4: nothing feels like a big deficity. It shouldn't feel like
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  Speaker 4: that big of a deficit against that team yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Well, here's why we're left to psychoanalyze, because they had
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: a bad week of practice by their own admission, before
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: the World Champs came in at the home opener, had lost.
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  Speaker 3: Then by all accounts, they had a good week of
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: practice getting ready for a Texans team that we've just illustrated.
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  Speaker 3: It's new, it's young, and it's injured, and they lost.
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  Speaker 3: I'd explained it, right, I mean, how do you explain
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: some of those plays? And that's why we're left to say, Hey,
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: what's going on up here.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: We're gonna do our best to do just that. We'll
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: be back after the break to go over the tape
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: what went down on Sunday. Move the Freight, Move the Freight,
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• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Last year's gone, Last year's done. There's a great, great season,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: there's a great ending, great run that we went on.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: But one, we want to accomplish more there. We feel
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: like there's a lot more for us. And two, this
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: is a different team. This is a different season. Obviously
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: hasn't started the way we wanted. And I think that's
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: one thing is we can't expect to We can't expect
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: the ball to just bounce our way every game. We
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: can't put ourselves in seventeen point holes and expect that
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: we're just gonna figure it out, because it's it's hard
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: in this league and you're not gonna be able to
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: do it every week. And of course that we believe it,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: and halftime, you know we're in there seventeen nothing and
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: we got no doubt we're gonna go win this game.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: We're gonna find a way. And we started off good
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: and then ended up obviously not playing well. But it's
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: just it's not feasible to do that every week, and
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: we gotta we can't wait until our backs against the
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: wall to make a play.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Jags, Trevor addressing something up in Ingram
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: said in the locker room, which was this ain't last year.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Were don't bring that up again. This is not that team.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: And I think after what we saw on Sunday, that's
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: pretty clear. Yes, all right, we're gonna go over the
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: video now, so we'll start off with that Ridley drop
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: in early on in the game, and it was it
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: really did John. I know you've said it a couple
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: times at this point, but just why was there so
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: much focus on just trying to get out that early
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: and then when it didn't work out that one possession,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: it was like things just went off after that.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: Well why I wish I knew, but that's what it
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: felt like.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: You had a bad week offensively the week before three
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: field goals, he hadn't scored, so again it felt like
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: it was almost, okay, let's put that behind us.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: And then when you didn't put it behind.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: You, you sort of compounded it by giving up a
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: quick drive. So now you're seven to nothing. And I
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: always go back, I never played baseball at a high level.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: But when you're in the World Series and you're down
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: two games, no, everybody's trying to hit a home run.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Sure swaying for the fence. That's what it has felt
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: like a little bit. Maybe they would say they weren't pressing.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: They pressed the week before, and it felt after that
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: it was the same game in the first half, So
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: I would sort of assume that some of the things
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: that some of the same things were going on in
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: terms of that pressing.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: That's what it sure looked like after the Ridley play
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: in the first half.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Well, since I'm doing my best Freezer Ukraine impression these
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: days and trying to psychoanalyze this team, I do believe
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: that if he catches that ball and they score and
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: go up seven to nothing on their first drive, totally
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: different time, totally game right that right there was the
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: moment that I went oh, and I think it's the
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: moment they went oh. And they couldn't turn it around.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Because we disagree with you.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: But in the nineteen forty NFL Championship, this was when
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: I was born, Kink, the Bears won seventy three nothing.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Sammy both throws a pass early who was a quarterback
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: of Washington at the time. There's a pass early gets
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: lost in the sun. I think was Cliff Battles drops it.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: They asked Sammy about after the game had been different.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: He goes, yeah, it would have been seventy three cents.
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: Well, right, okay, but that's a little bit different than
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: this scenario. But I way to stick it to the
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: people who are watching, who might be Broncos fans today,
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: that's the highest scoring game in the NFL history.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Broncos fans, they know, they're familiar with McManus, who had
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: some issues in Denver and we was brought in here
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: as a veteran kicker, but he had some issues. On Sunday,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: missed that field goal after the Ridley drop and then
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: he had his other field goal attempt blocked. And I
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: think for Doug talked a lot about bringing that veteran presence,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: the point of it being so that you don't feel
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: you have to go for it and fourth down you're not.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: You can rely on the special teams, and it's not
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: a great way to start.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: I didn't think that the lack of confidence or the yips,
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: if you want to use a golf reference extended to
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: special teams. I figured three nothing or yeah, three nothing
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: at that point. All right, got some points, let's go.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: I do think John you mentioned that they've been in
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: the Chiefs and Texans territory what nine times, and had
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: six points to show for it.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: But that's in the first half. I didn't want to
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: count the second half because that was okay.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: How can this offense, you know, knowing what's there from
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: a talent standpoint, how can they cross the midfield and
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: have any confidence right now? They They need something good
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: to happen, this being one of them. If they could
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: have gotten miss field and obviously that's not McManus's fault
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: that it got blocked, but it was his fault that
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: he missed that first one and didn't help his team.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: We do want to talk about that one chance. The
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: first score of the game was set up by a
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: PI penalty because we thought it was going to continue
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: to go that way because Calvin wasn naven all cup
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: up with that ball in the end zone. There was
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: pass interference on that call, and then it ended up
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: being a one yard run in from there. But it
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: almost felt like that was going to happen again. Because
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: penalties can bail you out at times, and that's what
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: that was. And fortunately they were able to get a
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: score out of that, but then they just couldn't build
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: off of it. Wasn't a drive where you felt like
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: you earned it and you built off of it. It
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: was kind of like, oh, well we got points, but
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: we don't have any confidence coming off of it.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Well, I was I think a lot of people were
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: probably thinking about that Chargers Wild Card game with the
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Jags trilled twenty seven to seven at the end of
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: the half, and I was interested, anxious to see how
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: they would come out and answer, and I was not surprised.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: They went down the field and got that touchdown with
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: the help of the penalty. I thought Doug had those guys,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: you know, ready to come out, you know, and they
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: scored ten quick points yep, right, But then another phase
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: of the game lets them down, whether it was defense
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: or special teams, you know, Christian Kirk gets his touchdown,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: and then they give up the Tank Dell touchdown. I
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: mean just every time it seemed like something good was
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: going to happen, something bad happened.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it would have been interesting, you know, and if
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: if had they not given up that kickoff return. Yeah,
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: the defense had played okay. On that first drive of
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: the second half, there was a drop that gave him
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: the first down to beget.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: Off the field.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: It felt, frankly, a lot like the four or five
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: games at the end of the last season around here
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: where they came back and you're standing in the locker
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: room saying, well, you know, I don't know that even
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: with the win, it had been a great feeling because
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: there was so much that had gone weird, But it.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: Felt like one of those games.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: But I think I think Trevor said it best. When
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: you're down seventeen, the problem is one thing goes against you,
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: and now you're back down in the hole.
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: You give yourself no margin for air.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: And I wrote and thought a lot after last season
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: about this team needed to get out of those situations
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: where they had no margin for air because you can
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: only live on that ledge so long, and right now
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: they're on the wrong end of the ledge.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: If you will, you said more than one yesterday, Yeah,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: they got to get out of their own way.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about that kick, because that was one of
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: the weirdest things I've ever seen. The ball bounces around,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: fullback gets it in his hands and then.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: A twitter and fifty five pounds fullback. Are you kidding me?
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: John? Is that just something where when that goes wrong
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: right there, when they're just see the ball on the ground,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: does everybody is it discipline? Do you need to stay
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: where you are?
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: Is it just like discipline? And it's hot? I think
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: I had not talk to Heath fall Off the game
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: about it, but.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Your instinct, I would think as a player takes over
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: when the ball is on the ground, Hey aere, we
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: go get the ball and then he picks it up
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: and he's he's sort of around one guy and everybody
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: else has bad angles.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: You then had the kicker.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Trying to be a little bit the last line of
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: defense probably didn't take a great angle. But when you're
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: depending on the kicker, that's it. It's not good at
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: the point you're in trouble. And then and then Durnest
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: I can't quite catch it. I think it was a
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: bunch of little circumstances conspiring.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: To create a really weird play.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Again, as I said earlier, I sort of get why
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: it happens, because you have the fumble and that sort
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: of takes everybody here, and then he bounces out here,
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: I texted.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: I texted with a former Jaguars special teams coordinator who's
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: a buddy of mine. Last night. We were going back
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: and forth and I asked him if he had to
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: watch the play, and he said, yeah, tough deal. You know,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: lost containment on the outside. There's two guys who were
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: supposed to be responsible for that, but so many guys,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: you know, ran and went after the ball. And you
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: see Jacob Harris just out of control, run right by.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: He could have broken down and made the tackle and
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: he ran right by the return man. Just I mean,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: what now you see him retrace his steps, but he's
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: too far behind at that point. It was it was
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: a momentary lapse of reason. Right everybody saw that ball
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: hit the ground. It was like blank, go get it.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: But you're sort of coached from the time you're five
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: years old, ball out, ball out, and then you're going
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: after it.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: So it's but some guys are coached to go and
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: maintain discipline and stay where you are. It's called containment.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: And the coach I was texting with last night said,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: tough deal. You know, that's gonna be a hard one
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: for Heath to explain, but it's easy to see what happened.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: We'll go on to that after to Christian Kirk's touchdown,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: because at this point, all right, you're like, we are
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: running out of time and they're going to do something.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: They go down the field old stand by Trevor to
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Kirk get a touchdown. I can't remember score at this point,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: but it was seven seventeen. You were then ten again.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: It's within reach again, and.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: With ten minutes left to plays, love.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: To play well within reach with if you're gonna be
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: hustle after that, and then to immediately after this, give
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: you a give yourself a little bit of hope, and
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: then immediately switch over to the Tank Dell touchdown after that,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: it was it was a tough sequence there.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Well, at this point again John was talking earlier about
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: you kind of feel like it's, you know, last year's Jaguars,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: you know, the Texans all of a sudden showing some
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: vulnerabilities in the secondary that's missing a couple of key players,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: and you.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Feel good about it.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: And then here on third down, Tank Dell is wide open.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: It looked to me like Darius Williams made the wrong move.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, Trey Herndon was in that one of those
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: two guys blew the coverage and Tank Dell it couldn't
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: get any easier. The rookie must just think that this
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: NFL game is easy because yesterday catch for sure.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: When you when you look at this, it's is it
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: mental lapses here as well or is it just that
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: a coverage score?
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Well that's look, I mean, it could be both. But
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: that's where you start second guessing and trying to make
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: a play, or you're not paying attention because you're so
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: focused on it's thirty three, right. That's where the anxiety
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: factor comes in. And guys, you know, they longtime coaches
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: believe that if you have guys who get anxious and
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: key moments, they can't function at a high level. So
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: here you've got some anxiety on the part of one
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: of those two players, perhaps, and they melt down and
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: forget the responsibility and both go after the guy in
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: the flat and Tank Dell runs by himself. And that's
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Tank Dell who beats you for forty eight yards in
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: the first half. You would think you would somebody would
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: look and say, hey, I got him, Yeah, but they didn't.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah. It seemed more communication than anything.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, not communicating because they're not thinking as clearly as
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: you'd like them too.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: All right, stay with us here on jag Zam. Coming up,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: we got some hot takes and they may be a
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: little bit hotter than usual this week, so we'll see
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• 27:34
  Speaker 5: And and.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: You know, you know, I've been around this game too
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: long to know that you can't can't live in the past,
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: or you're gonna you're gonna fail in the future. And
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: you know, we've just got to focus one.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Day at a time.
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: We got to get better each day and can't worry
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: about next week or the week after, can't worry about
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: the London trip coming up. We can't, you know, we
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: just got to focus in on on the week at hand.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: And and you know that that that part it starts
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: with me and making sure that the guys are you know,
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: hearing that message. You know, allowed them to clear for me,
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: and we'll make sure that they get that message.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I cannot rely on the past, and last year's team
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: is not this year's team. Welcome back to Jags am
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: in the Hundai Studios presented by Carshield. Today, we're going
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: to get to our hot takes because things are not
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: where we expected them to be. So, Brian, what's your
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: hot talk? Now?
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go back to the past because it
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: looks to me like this team is relying offensively way
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: too much on Calvin Ridley, and I would like to
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: see them go back to what was working for them
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: last year, which was Christian Kirk Evan Ingram. I know
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Zay Jones is injured. He could be back this week,
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: likely against the Bills. Put Calvin Ridley, if you have to,
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: into Zay Jones' role, but it just my sense is
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: they are forcing the ball to him. He's there, eleven
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: million dollar guy, he's done that game breaking guy. It
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: didn't work and he had a tremendous first half against
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: the Colts, and then since then it's been disappointed and
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: maybe he's not ready for it yet, and maybe they
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: were all just assuming, well, he was so good in
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: training camp and so good in the preseason that he'll
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: just jump right into it. Maybe he needs more time
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: to be ready to go after being off for more
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: than a year and a half. I say put him
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: on the side, right, make him your second or third option,
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: not your first, and take the offense back to where
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Trevor was clearly comfortable last year and everything seemed to
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: work better. It just feels to me like they're forcing
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: that issue because they've got him, and that if you
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: want to get this offense, which right now you could
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: call jumpy, skittish, discombobulated, choose your adjective. Calm everything down,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: do what you know. Works to me, that's Christian Kirk
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: and Evan Ingram in zig jumps.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's funny.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: I thought they maybe tried to calm it down a
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: little bit. I said earlier. The way they were running, yeah,
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: is usually the formula forgetting things calm, And that's what
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: was sort of weird. I went back and watched the
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: game this morning, and it was a weird imbalance to
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: that where hey, we could run they six seven yards
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: on first down and usually that's where you, hey, hey,
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: get things going.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: I agree with Calvin.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's as much rust as much
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: as just this incredible desire to do it right, which
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: maybe that's russ I don't know, but I think he
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: wants so much to excel and so much to succeed
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: and feels like he can and you just you know,
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: but I don't. I don't disagree. Something along the lines
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: of getting the Christian back to where he's sort of
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: the guy. Uh maybe an element of that.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Well, take what worked for you and add to it,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: as opposed to redefine it with Calvin, which is what
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: it feels like they have done because we know what
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: these other guys are capable of doing. And again, I
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: don't know whether it's rust or not either, but it
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: does feel like Calvin wants to score on every single
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: play and that's just that's not the way this offense works.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: And I do agree the running game should normally bring
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: everything back down to earth a little bit, but this
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: is a past first team, So from a passing perspective,
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: I think Kirk and Grimmer the.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Way to go, and it's about setting the offense up to
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: be successful and Calvin up to be successful because he
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: is that deep threat. He's dropping balls for some of
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: these catches, but he's always double covered, so somebody else
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: has to be open at this point. And yes, we
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: do expect war from him because we know he's physically
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: able to make crazy catches in that situation, but he
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: should be more wide open when we're throwing to him,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: especially when he's in a new offense like Trevor and
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: those guys have been here, Calvin has not. So yes,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: we know he can do crazy things, but this is,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: you know, a couple games into a new regime.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: And then there's also the added value of the offensive
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: line is not giving him time. And there was Christian
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Kirk wide open right on a third down in the
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: third quarter and he didn't have time to deliver it
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: because Sheldon Rankins was bearing down on him. So Kurt
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Hinnisch was he mistake? Who? Kurt Hinnisch looked like Howie
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Long yesterday?
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, there's lots of things going on. His mom's gonna
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: call you know you can, John, what's your hot take for?
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: You don't want to turn which with Sunday is in
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: and it's a little worrisome.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: Week three is starting to get to that point in
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: the season where teams have game planned you it can
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: be sort of what is coming up? And this felt
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: like a game in a lot of ways where it
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: was a wheels off game. I don't think that's what
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: that is for this team, I believe, particularly because of
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Doug Peterson. He has been so good in his career
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: even when teams go through a bad stretch. Think about Philly.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: I mean his last two playoff appearances in Philly, they
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: fought and scratched and clawed their way through the NFCS
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: and made the playoffs last year.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: Very similar.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: He knows how to coach in this situation where things
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: are sort of going squirrely and I think there's too
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: much I hate saying this, too much talent for that
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: to happen. But it is a game that felt like
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: if things go off the rails, you look back and go, Okay,
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: there it was.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: I don't think that's what it was.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: But they have to really focus now to not have
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: that be that game.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Hey, look, you can go and find championship caliber teams.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Tom Coughlin's first Giants Super Bowl team, where there was
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: some infighting and things weren't feeling good and they turned
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: it around, made the playoffs as a wild card, and
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl. Great teams have had difficult moments
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: like this. We have yet to see whether that will
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: happen here. But you have faith in Doug Peterson because
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: he's been here before that he can get this thing
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: turned around, and faith in the quarterback because you know
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: what he's capable of doing. It's just I think people
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: are anxious about it because, like I thought this was
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: supposed to be different. We all thought this was supposed.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: It's fair to be Doug said yesterday, this is gonna
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: be criticism, and it's.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Fair sometimes you know, the triumph is on the other
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: side of the university. Sure, and hopefully that's the case here.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Is that we look back at this and go, do
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: you remember when we thought this thing was coming apart
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: and the wheels were falling off and they turned it around.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: We'll see for me, this is when culture comes into key, right,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Culture and character. You talk about culture. It's easy culture
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: when you're winning and things are on the upside. But
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: when you know things get hard, you're gonna see the
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: true character of people. And I think we all have
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: faith about this building. The culture is real and I
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: think they will be able to turn it around, but
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: it's a very telling if they can't, because you think
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: you building a good culture and things don't go the
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: way you want, and then oh maybe I don't have
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: the same kind of culture character as I did beforehand,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: So that will be a big deal. My hot take
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: is about the physicality of this football team. I don't
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: think they've been tough enough. And I think that goes
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: mentally and physically, but physically, I just wanna see them
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: hit some people right the travisy Tan and Tank are
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: probably the only people I say think are as physical
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: as they need to be right now. The defense has
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: been playing above caliber, but yesterday they just didn't do
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: what they needed to do. And that goes to the
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: offensive line as well. We know that's an issue for
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: this team. They need to be tougher. They need to
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: protect Trevor and I think the wide receivers as well, everybody,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: no one's exempt. The coaching as well. They need to
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: figure out a way to toughen them up. And I
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: don't know how you do that. If it's if it's
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: if it's I think it's within them. But is is
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: that something physical that needs to change. Is it a
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: mentality for this team? Is in football? Can it come
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: down to just being not tough enough fit points?
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: I think to me, just to take a derivative of
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: what you're saying, is it's a mental toughness issue. You know,
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: when you get into the third quarter and all right,
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: you know, now you're only down you know, seventeen ten,
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: you know, that's when you have to sharpen up. That's
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: when every little detail matters. And you can't have a
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: five yard penalty that takes third and one to third
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: and six. You can't have a drop pass, you can't
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: have mistackles, and they did not do a good job
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: in key situations. In fact, the specific situation was on
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: that seven yard run that set up the third down
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: and three play. They had Damon here's at the goal line.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: They had them a yard behind, and they let him
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: squirt through for six yards on first down. You can't
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: have that. That's where the toughness issue comes in. And
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: you can go, well, that's physical toughness because the act
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: of getting him on the ground, but it's also a
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: mental toughness and rallying to the ball and pulling, bite
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: and scratching whatever it takes to get that guy on
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: the ground for a short game, not to set up
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: that big deep shot.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't see.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: I thought the running early to me showed more quote
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: toughness on the offensive line.
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: Maybe we'd seen.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: I always hesitate to question physical toughness because it's you know,
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: it's such a physical game that I think most guys
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: are tough, and I think that's the I go with
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: more the Maybe it is mental toughness in the big moments,
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: just that that inability to make the.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: Big play when it matters. It's what the league's about.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: And when you're playing like they are right now, then
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: you're not doing that in those moments.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Well, we all know athletes, no matter the sport, right
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: who in the biggest moment rise to the occasion. And
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: that's not every athlete is that way. You need a
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: couple of guys who are that way, and that's what
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: this team needs to get through that mentality of oh,
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: this is when it's tough, Well let's go. This is
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: what we're paying for, right.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Have to thrive in the moments when if things are
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: the hardest. All right, stay with us. We'll preview the
• 37:05
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• 37:32
  Speaker 2: feel a little bit differently about how the Jags should
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: address things this week. I think last week I was like,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: all right, watch the film, but move on quickly. I
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: feel this week they really need to sit in it,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: marinate in it, feel what this is, and figure out
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: how to fix it and start over, because you can't
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: just continue on the way things are going right now.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: I wish they had the plane ride today, right, Yeah,
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: I mean eight hours sitting on a plane with nothing
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: to do and still within that twenty four hour rule, right,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: because you want guys to let it go. I don't
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: think they're gonna be able let it go. I mean,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: I think they can talk about moving on as much
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: as you want, but I think everybody individually is going
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: to be questioning themselves to some degree, what can I
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: do better? How do I do my job better this week?
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: I think Trevor sort of defined it in his post game.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: He went back to the theme a couple of times, saying,
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: you know, we're to the point where it's not okay,
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: And I think that was more of a message maybe
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: to himself, maybe to everybody that, look, we keep talking about.
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: Playing big in these moments. At some point you got
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: to do it.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: And it's it's not okay to be the one guy
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: out of the eleven who comes off the field and
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: says my bad. And that's sort of a juvenile way
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: of saying it. But you know, it's not hey, we
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: need all eleven now, guys, it's we're one and two
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: and this wasn't good enough.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: Until they show they're not. This is what they are.
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: So let's go to London.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: This is ah we w we are heading to London
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: later this week. This is certainly gonna be a defining game,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: and it's up to them whether it's a defining moment
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: that they turn around or a defining moment and they
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: continue on this way. We'll go over things some more
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: on Wednesday here on jags Amne. We'll see you then.