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Dynamite Kiss | Full K-drama Review / Ep. 102 · Daebak K-Rambles Podcast: K-drama Reviews

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I'm Jessica and this is Teba K Rambles where a couple of
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friends review Korean dramas and we are back for an official K
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Drama review the 1st 1 of Season 7.
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For this episode I am joined by Carol from the K Drama Musings
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podcast. Hello, Carol, How are you?
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Hi, Jess, how are you? I am so good.
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I was telling you before we got on that I have been struggling
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with a head cold for the last week or so and today's the first
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day that I'm feeling good. I'm feeling energized.
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I am a little less congested than I was the last few days.
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So I'm sorry if you still hear that in my voice, but we are
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here to discuss Dynamite Kiss and oh man, I'm locked and
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loaded. I told you this like I am locked
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and loaded. I've watched the final episode
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last night finally and holy crap.
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the show. We're going to get started on
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this non spoiler section of the Dynamite Kiss review.
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And I have to say, I feel like this is going the way of when
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the phone rings. I think that was the limited
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understanding that we had as we agreed to do this review was
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that, you know, this might be very similar in tone to that
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review that came out almost a year ago.
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But I'm more than happy to have a little fun with this.
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I see you thinking, Carol. You know, when I started
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watching the show, I was like, Oh my gosh, we must be back.
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I did a reel. I was like, yes, it feels good
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to do a reel again. It feels good to make content
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and then I just shut up and everyone knows when I just shut
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up. Yeah.
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It means it's gone the other way for me.
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And my mom said if you don't have anything nice to say, just
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don't say anything. So yeah, I'm here to defend it,
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OK. And maybe something else.
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Perfect. I don't think that I have told
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you my thoughts at all. You don't know if I'm positive
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or negative on this. Which is driving me nuts.
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Yeah, I kept it real low key. OK, but we'll start with the My
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Drama List slash Netflix synopsis, which reads.
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A passionate fling in Teju ends abruptly until fate reunites an
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Air dihyuk and a young woman called that him when she joins
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his company disguised as a married mother.
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This aired from November to December 2025.
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I think the final episode was on Christmas Day.
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It is 14 episodes long directed by Kim Jae Hyun who also
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directed $1.00 Lawyer from 2022, which is why there is a $1.00
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Lawyer reunion cameo in this show.
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And then we it was written by PE Kyung Min and HyunA.
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HyunA has also written from now on Showtime and Mystic Pop Up
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Bar. Have you seen those two shows?
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No. OK, neither have I, all right.
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And then of course, it stars John Kyung as Ji Hyung, the male
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lead. We've covered quite a few of his
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shows on here. The first time you were ever on
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the show Carol was for search www.andhes in that show.
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So I feel like we're just continuing.
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We're iterating here. There's a lot of shows from him
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that we've covered on on Tibok. It's all right.
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This is love. He has a crazy cameo.
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That's like the first thing he's ever in is this blinking.
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You'll miss a cameo. So we've covered that go back
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couple. He's in my Mr. He's in and
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search WWW. I personally have seen the
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atypical family. My roommate is a Kumiyo, the
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liar and his lover and the idol mermaid from 20 back in 2014 so
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I've watched plenty of his stuff.
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Are you a fan of John Kiyong? My password Wi-Fi password at
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home includes his name, so I think I'm a huge fan.
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Yeah. What's your favorite thing that
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he's been in? Search WWE I girl, I can't get
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past that. I was like, oh, that was that
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was a man. And then I think I liked him in
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Atypical. Family.
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Yeah, the Atypical family is really good too.
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Very different. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Oh, didn't he have like an action one or something with
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Nana? Am I dreaming that?
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Is it kill it from ocean? Yeah, 2019.
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I think so, yeah. That's the one.
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Just brought out a different side.
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I like him. I like him.
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He's good, he's great. I think he's one of the best K
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drama kissers out there. Yes.
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Like, period. Every time he has a kissing
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scene, I'm like speechless, speechless.
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Like I get overheated. I'm throwing pillows at the
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screen. 100%. So caught up, so caught up.
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OK. His Co star is Anand Jin.
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She plays cold at him and of course, she has been doing
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really well. Her career has been doing really
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well in the last couple of years, ever since My Dearest.
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It was the 1-2 hit of My Dearest and the Good Bad Mother in the
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same year, 2023. But again, she's been acting for
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the past 7:00-ish years. We've covered her in The Crowned
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Clown from 20/19. She was a royal concubine in
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that show. We've also covered her in
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Hospital Playlist Season 1 that aired in 2020.
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My Dearest. Of course, there's a deep dive
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on My Dearest. I've watched her in the Witch's
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Diner as well. And Kingdom.
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She's one of the wives in Kingdom.
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Oh OK, I haven't seen Kingdom. Yeah.
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Oh definitely watch. Kingdom, I know, I'm too scared.
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Well, it's it true? True.
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And and you should be. It's very heavy zombie gore and
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stuff. OK, quite disturbing, but she
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was most recently in Genie Make a Wish.
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Yes. And Goodbye Earth from 2024,
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also on Netflix. I have to say the only thing
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that is seared in my memory is my dearest from her.
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That was, that was fantastic. So I'm still there with her.
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Yeah, for sure. But I really like her.
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I think I appreciate her more as the years go on, but she's not.
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I mean, she's picking different things, you know?
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I think like Goodbye Earth was like a swing, definitely.
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But she's got a comforting aura about her, I think.
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Yeah, yeah, I really enjoyed her and hospital playlist too.
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Yeah, she's like a what is she? I think she's an OBGYN
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residence, yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
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So those are the only two that I'm going to go over as far as
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the cast is concerned, there's more people involved in this.
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There's the second male lead and the second female lead and all
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of the family members that surround these two.
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But Carol, what did you think of Dynamite Kiss?
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Did you love it? Did you hate it?
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What were your emotions throughout the show?
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Was it like the first half was good, second-half was bad or you
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know? I can't even say first half,
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just I can't even say that because it was kind of like when
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the phone rings after episode 4-5, you're like, oh, oh, what's
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what's happening here? Why, why are we doing this?
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And then it just started getting worse.
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And I remember someone telling me, you know what?
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It feels like the second-half was written by AI just throwing
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everything in and I was like, that changed my perspective
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about the show because it sort of made sense.
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But I will always dream about the 1st 4 episodes.
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OK, those were those were really good.
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The rest? OK, that was what I was going to
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ask. Like the first four were good
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for you and then the rest rest of the show.
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It just started sliding down. I just couldn't do it.
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Right, right, right. What about it did you, did you
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not like, was it just, I see you like thinking like the wheels
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are turning? I did not like the second male
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lead and him falling in love with her.
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I felt like they could have made a love square instead of a
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triangle and it would have worked just fine.
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I'm trying to think of a square square drummer.
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The second female lead. Yeah.
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OK. So like business proposal, that
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was a love square and that worked perfectly.
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Because it was 2 separate couples you mean?
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Exactly, I wish it had been two separate couples.
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So the second couple being the friend, both friends on either
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side I guess. So him falling in love with her,
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I just, yeah, it destroyed it for me.
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And then I, I didn't really understand why adults were
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having so many misunderstandings.
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I was just like, wait a second, I thought this was like 2004
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stuff that we used to do, but in this age, this many
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misunderstandings. I I get it.
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I get it. Nah, Nah.
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Lack of communication, assumptions running with them to
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the hills, not just down the street.
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It was wild. Yeah, those are a few other
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things. OK, so I have to agree with you.
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I was very excited to watch the show because like I said, I know
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that Jiang Kiyong is a really good kisser and then he was
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going to come out with a show called Dynamite Kiss with Anand
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Jin. I love Anand Jin for my dearest.
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I was like, Oh my God, perfect. Sign me the hell up the first
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couple of episodes. Some of the best K drama
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episodes of of the past like 6 years, right?
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Really good ROM material. I love how quickly they get
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started and how you know they have to get separated.
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And I love the tattoo island stuff, the kiss at the beginning
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and like they're on a boat on a yacht and they're making out on
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the on the yacht and stuff. I was eating it up.
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It was so good. And I understand why everyone
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was so enamoured with this show because it was moving, very
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fast-paced and we hadn't gotten into the stuff that I generally
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dislike about any show. Right?
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Which is like office politics, office romance.
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You miss me with that. I don't like office like.
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Really. No, I don't like office
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romances. I can count on one hand which
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like, there's some that people absolutely love and I can't.
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I can't deal with it. What's 1 up?
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What's wrong with Secretary of Kim is 1.
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People love that office romance. Romance is a bonus book.
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People love that. I can't stand it, like it.
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It just does not work for me at all to put this thing in an
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office. And I don't care at all about
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anything that they're doing. Any task that they are doing in
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the office I don't give a shit about at all.
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They're like, oh, we have to do this.
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Oh, we have to pick up this. Oh, we have to run this event.
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I don't care. So I'm very harsh on that.
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That's me. I can't say the.
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Same. As soon as they took it there, I
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was like, ah, I might need to check out.
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But things that I liked about the show are, you know, he loves
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her immediately. She's so kind, right?
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She's stopping to pick up Tangerines that fell on the
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street. I'm being really sweet to a
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random little kid the whole show.
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He is ravenous, thirsty, I'll for her, which I love that he's
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sick down bad for her. Yeah.
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But again, all the things that I don't like about an office
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romance, office politics and company shenanigans of like, oh,
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someone's trying to take over his spot because he's a table
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and like, no. OK, OK, I will say I loved the
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office stuff because I was sitting here being like, is
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Natural Baby a real thing? All my kids, or rather all my
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friends have kids let me buy gifts from them from Natural
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Baby. So I did buy into that.
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But where it started losing me is so Jackie on Sister.
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What does she do? What the hell is she doing?
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What's what's her? What does she do?
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She's she's an executive over the marketing team because she
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was dealing with the marketing manager the whole time.
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He was her subordinate, her little crony.
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So like the whole day, nine to five, yours is just to find ways
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to destroy your brother. I thought that was a loss.
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I'm not going to lie. I felt like OK sis, like it's
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not that deep, do your job. You know, I, I mean, this might
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be getting into the weeds too much on the show already, but I
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didn't like the social responsibility of the company,
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like, rammed down our throats. Yeah, because it's like a
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Johnson and Johnson company. And they're like, oh, let's
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plant trees. Oh, let's build a whole
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marketing campaign around, you know, giving back to the
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environment and watching our kids grow tall, like the trees.
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I'm like, OK, OK, OK, I hear you.
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Enough, enough, enough. And the fact that that's like is
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so embedded in, I guess the mom's way of managing the
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company is her vision. Is all this like social
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responsibility? You're making baby bottles and
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like, I don't understand. You're making strollers.
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You're making. I get it and I don't.
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At the same time, I'm very like, stop preaching to me.
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And I'm not no. I felt like this whole show was
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children propaganda trying to cut in people to have children.
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Oh, 100%. And I get it.
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Children are a blessing. I don't regret anybody for
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having kids. Have as many kids as you want,
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as long as you can take care of them.
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But this show was very clearly kid propaganda.
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Yeah. From the single dad saying you
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can be a single dad and you can be, you know, doing your thing
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and you can find a woman who is excited to be a mom to your kid,
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to the company itself and the social responsibility and his
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mom being the real owner of the company and planting the trees
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and, and him finding his tree again.
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I'm just like, you know what? I don't care.
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I don't care. And you know, going back to what
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you said about the sister having absolutely nothing to do except
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sulk and moan and cry all day long about the fact that she's
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not the favorite child and she wants a higher position in the
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company. First of all, it's a stock
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character. Her and throw a rock hit any
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character. They're stock characters.
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They have no other. It feels so one note they are
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not given any depth at all. And they could have, they could
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have given the sister depth because when they do like a
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bunch of flashback sequences and you find out, oh, she was broken
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up with by this asshole table from another family and
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whatever, because she has no standing.
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I was like, OK, so this is all about a man.
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It's like she can't just be herself, herself, resourceful,
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want these career aspirations and to rise the ranks in the
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family business. Why does it have to be like, oh,
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suddenly I have like a fire lit under my ass because I I can't,
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I can't stand toe to toe with this guy.
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He didn't want me because I got no job.
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Yeah, I didn't. Oh, man, that didn't sit right
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with me. It just made her feel so like,
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again, one-dimensional. Yeah, and small.
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And small, yeah, yeah, yeah. So a lot of business
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machinations as well as just did not sit well with me at all
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because I personally don't gravitate towards that anyway in
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stories, OK. But there's, you know, talking
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about some nice things. There was a lot of interactions
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between the male lead and the female lead that were K drama
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crack moments, right? Yes, really, really great
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moments between them. Like the moment he puts his hand
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on the corner of the table to act as a bumper so that she
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doesn't bump her head. I was like, that kind of shit is
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good. Like that's really good female
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gaze stuff. Yeah, 100%.
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I thought, I thought as a couple they were just well suited for
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each other. I I think at first I struggled a
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little bit with here's someone who he's talking to his
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secretary or his friend, and he's like, I haven't had his
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kiss. So I'm assuming that kiss was
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his first kiss. Yeah, I understand what you're
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saying so. She was meeting her ex at Jeju
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and they've dated for a long time.
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Oh my God. Yeah, that's right.
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Speaking of the ex, he never pops back in.
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Like they just throw this guy in for the first episode or two.
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We never, ever. You know what never came back?
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That pissed me off? Episode 1 we see aside, I don't
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care about her, it's Jiang Ki Young.
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He has a whole business making multi $1,000,000 deals and his
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business just he just goes away. He leaves his was it mergers and
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acquisitions consultant and where does that go?
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I'm like, you were speaking multiple languages.
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It was doing it for me. Where did all that go?
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Yeah, I was so annoyed that that was gone and he just seemed
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like, I don't know, a basic boss.
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He didn't seem as amazing as he was in Episode 1.
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Yeah, I agree with you. But yeah, as you said, the 1st 4
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episodes were working and then to me 5 and 6 struggle bus.
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I was struggling so hard. I find the office environment
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utterly boring. And even though the topic is
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good like the mothers in a corporate world thing is very
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important and I understand. And again, more preaching to me.
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They're more they're preaching to us again.
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But I didn't like the second couple, the love triangle.
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I, Carol. Head in my hands, I was so
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excited to see the platonic girl and guy friend situation.
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That friendship that they had was so good.
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They have been friends for 20 years and then they had to go
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and like all of a sudden he realizes his feelings for her.
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Setting that aside, the misunderstanding that the male
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lead thinks that she's married with a child.
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Oh my God. Lasted forever.
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Way too long, way too long. And that's that's what pissed
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me. Off it was so shaky.
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That was so shaky to me. And I thought, I mean, I was
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pole vaulting over a Canyon of ain't no way, like disbelief
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because what do you mean? They all think that she's still
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married and has a child. He's so smart.
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I thought, oh, he's going to figure it out.
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Right. Listen, when they went to the
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rooftop and he said you didn't tell me you were married.
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Well, or rather, you told me you didn't have a boyfriend.
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And she's like, yeah, I told you I didn't have a boyfriend.
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I didn't say I didn't have a husband.
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That line was gold to me and I was like, oh, this can get
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better. You can keep this rolling.
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You can do something here. I understand.
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Yes, Yes, yes. And then I just went the
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opposite direction. And I was like, how can it take
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this long for a smart man to figure out that this woman isn't
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married? Which you could argue and say,
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well, it's because it's his first relationship.
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He doesn't know how all this works.
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And, you know, he's just attracted to her.
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And he's focused on this dynamite experience they have.
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So he's not really thinking, but then we get into him like
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episode 7, I think 7 or 87, where he's pulling a coffee
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Prince, where he locks himself up in his home and goes through
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this mental distress. That's the thing.
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OK, you know what? We're getting into the weeds on
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this, so let's break for spoilers it Oh, let's talk about
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OST. Did you like the OST or no?
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I don't remember the. OST thank you.
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Thank you. That's what I said what OSD I
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would never press play on this OSD ever again.
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I thought it was so unmemorable and I think the biggest crime in
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general, talking general non spoiler because I think we
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spoiled a few things, but that's fine.
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We haven't talked about end game on this thing and that's a whole
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conversation. The biggest crime of the show is
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that it's unmemorable. It is so forgettable.
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Like to finish this and you're like anyway, like you just go
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about your day. I don't think if you watch a
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great K drama that's the case at all.
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You definitely are going to sit there and linger and think about
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it and rewatch parts of the show and want to get back into the
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OST. And there was none of that about
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this show. A few people messaged me about
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their thoughts on the show and you're already laughing.
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Carol. This person says it has the vibe
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of King the Land, a show about nothing.
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No Kindle Land was better. What are we talking about?
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This person? Put an unhappy face and said I
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finished because I like both the actors but forgot as soon as it
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ends and I was like Oh my God. Another person said I feel like
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this K drama shows exactly the problem with new K dramas trying
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to fit Netflix or streaming site shows because this show could
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have been fun, silly feel good K drama but they just have to ruin
24:05
it and I think it could have had a better ending. 100%, yeah.
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Yeah, we haven't even talked about the ending yet, but that's
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a whole, that's a whole other thing.
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Someone said drop this one like a bomb.
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Felt like AI slop. Someone said it's an OK ish type
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of drama for me, amazing start but a so, so ending.
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And I have said this so many times, I would prefer an OK
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start that ramps up to an amazing fully fledged everything
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comes full circle well written ending that leaves you in shock
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in awe. And that hasn't been the case
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for a lot of ROM coms that come out of K drama land.
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And everyone is so hungry for a good K drama ROM com.
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Yeah, we haven't had one of those.
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Well, this year, I think one drama.
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No, actually 22 really good dramas.
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This January, so yeah, but otherwise, no.
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This. I feel like Netflix is terrible,
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but that's a topic for another day.
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I agree and it is a topic for another day, maybe for the
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Patreon. But Carol, what would you rate
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this drama out of vibes? Hold you bottles.
25:26
I'm trying to remember what I gave when the phone rings.
25:32
I feel like I did something audacious like 5 / 5.
25:36
Yeah, I think you might have given it something higher, but I
25:39
can't. Remember you.
25:40
Don't listen back, OK? I would give this a 2.5 / 5.
25:46
Oh my God, I was going to give it a 2 1/2 as well.
25:51
We're on the same page here. So 2 1/2's Hoju bottles is our
25:55
rating and we're going to get further into this drama right
26:00
after this. Excuse me, I can't.
26:05
You know I have no tingle. Oh, sorry.
26:09
Swear. Discussing shirts.
26:12
What? All right, we're on the other
26:16
side of spoilers, so we're going to talk more at length about
26:19
Dynamite, Kiss and Carol. You were in the middle of a
26:23
thought about episode 7. Did you want to continue?
26:28
So episode 7, like I said, he pulls a coffee Prince where he's
26:33
like, I can't be around her. I'm too tormented.
26:36
I love her so much. He goes to his place and he's
26:40
just not coming to work. And then he starts having like
26:44
his alter ego show up and say he's not good enough and and I'm
26:49
just like. Stop it.
26:50
That's right. He had like this weird
26:53
nightmare. Why are you having this
26:55
conversation? This has never been a part of
26:58
your childhood. Like it.
27:00
It didn't make sense why he was having this person say you're
27:05
just like me so. Or so I think I have to disagree
27:09
because if we're talking about the same thing, it's he has this
27:11
like weird nightmare where his dad shows up and then.
27:15
That's right. He's like, I'm nothing like you.
27:17
And he's like, yeah, you're exactly like me because you're
27:19
just, you are also a cheating asshole who's lusting after a
27:23
married woman, which accurate at this point because this boy has
27:26
been full for seven episodes that she's a married. 7. 7
27:31
episodes. So I like this internal struggle
27:36
that he's dealing with the whole like taking off work and and
27:41
disappearing and acting. He's strung out.
27:44
He's so strung out. She got this man strung out the
27:46
whole show, matter of fact, but he was I I like this specific
27:50
internal struggle of like my dad is an asshole.
27:53
I hate my dad because he imploded our family and he
27:56
destroyed his marriage with my mom, who, you know, built this
28:01
company with him and she's lost her will to live and he's really
28:05
wanting to side with his mom in this, not his dad or be anything
28:09
like his dad. And then he goes and loves to
28:12
female lead who has told him left, right and center she's
28:17
married with a child and he doesn't know what to do with his
28:21
feelings. He just feels guilty and
28:24
disgusted with his dad and himself.
28:26
So I understand all that and I think that was a good point in
28:29
the show. I just to what end, right?
28:33
Would you say that was the deepest part of the show and
28:37
then it just fizzled out? Yeah, I agree.
28:40
Yeah. It is.
28:42
I think it is the most compelling point of contention
28:46
in for a character and he doesn't he doesn't have to grow
28:48
past it because it's not like he made decision the decision in
28:52
cop. You're talking about coffee
28:53
brands. It's not like he ever made the
28:54
decision, as Komu's character does in Coffee Prince, to love
28:58
her anyway and go for it anyway, you know, or let her go because
29:05
of this, Like, oh, I'm going to try and like, shut down all my
29:09
feelings. And, you know, he does like a
29:11
little bit of mean things here and there and like, treats her
29:13
coldly. But it's not, it's not like
29:16
actively stop loving her at all or is trying to put to bed his
29:20
feelings. He's just a little upset.
29:23
I think in the next episode is when?
29:26
Oh please don't tell me. Isn't that when she carries him
29:30
out of the fire and he comes out clean as a baby's bum with no
29:35
smoke on him? Oh my God.
29:43
But like, they're at at some point in the next couple of
29:45
episodes, he finds out that she's not married because he
29:50
overhears her talking with the second male lead at the same
29:56
venue, wedding venue or whatever that they're at for some random
30:01
reason. It's so contrived.
30:03
I think, yeah, I think they were there for a wedding.
30:06
He was there for his engagement. Yeah, that's true.
30:10
And then he hears the kids say Auntie instead of mom.
30:16
I have to shout out mom. Mom came through with breaking
30:19
off the engagements by face. She did, you know, she was like,
30:24
like freaking fit the deck as I mean, that's risky to go head
30:30
first like that. She she launched herself out of
30:33
the chair. I thought that was funny.
30:35
Sorry, I might have a twisted sense of humor, but I thought
30:38
that was funny also. Oh man, just the fact that she
30:41
was lying for so long. I thought it made her seem more
30:44
pathetic and insecure than it did desperate and strategically
30:49
surviving, if that makes any sense.
30:51
You know, it made her seem stupid because she didn't trust
30:56
anybody when she's so naively positive and kind.
31:02
And so I almost feel like she probably would have said
31:07
something at least to somebody else on the team, maybe, maybe
31:11
not him because she's afraid she's going to lose her job.
31:14
But still, I thought it made her seem sad.
31:16
Yeah, and I thought she'd slip up while drinking or something,
31:21
but she never did. I don't know.
31:24
I I feel like once he had paid the debts.
31:29
I felt crazy. Thanks for bringing that up.
31:33
OK, when he paid her debt off in this like really cringy K drama
31:37
way, but OK continue care black card the black card card.
31:42
Because I have a machine that can just take the information,
31:47
you know, whatever, whatever. But I felt like she could have
31:52
come clean then and worked her way to paying him back.
31:58
She did not need to continue this ruse because the only
32:02
reason she started it was to pay off that debt.
32:05
Not a debt is paid. So what are we doing?
32:08
I understand. I understand what you're saying
32:09
completely. Because she was trying to pay
32:10
back the debt and still kept all the lies.
32:13
Yeah, all the lies in place. He even saw her mom at the
32:16
hospital. I'm like perfect now you can say
32:19
my mom's been sick as hell. I had to incur this debt because
32:23
my sister left us with this crazy debt.
32:25
The house was going to be taken from us.
32:27
All this stuff like just say your sob story at this point.
32:31
Exactly. Just tell him your sob story.
32:33
And he would. He's obviously extremely
32:34
empathetic. Exactly like girl.
32:39
It's right in front of you, just take it.
32:41
It's upsetting. I thought the low point.
32:44
So everyone was like, oh, the ending of the show sucks.
32:46
The ending of the show sucks. Look, this show sucked before
32:49
the ending, bar none. Sorry to say.
32:52
It's sorry to say this show sucked before the ending in
32:55
episode 7. Still the coworkers kid goes
32:59
missing in the park. Yeah, and they all scattered to
33:02
go look for this dumb ass kid in the park and she falls down a
33:05
hill and loses consciousness. And I was having when the phone
33:09
rings, flashbacks. I was having deep when the phone
33:13
rings flashbacks. Of course it starts raining.
33:16
Of course, it's suddenly super cold outside.
33:19
Of course he finds her and she has no bleeding, serious
33:23
injuries, even though she was knocked out cold.
33:27
Of course the cell phone has no service.
33:29
Of course he finds her super fast while the fake husband, her
33:35
BFF, the second male lead, is running around deep into an eye
33:39
fall trying to find them. When the phone.
33:41
Rings When the phone rings, I was like, oh, they jumped a
33:43
shark. Like that is the moment to me
33:45
that I'm like, Nope, That if you guys aren't going to take this
33:48
seriously, like, why should I care?
33:49
You know, like it's lame. I think it's lame.
33:53
They have like a heart to heart, though, at this time.
33:55
And I was like, OK, like a little depth here.
33:58
Because she thinks of him much like her father.
34:01
She's like, oh, you're like my dad.
34:05
I don't know if I want to hear that, but yeah.
34:08
I mean, he asked her some hard questions because she's like, I
34:10
had a hard time after my dad passed.
34:12
And he goes, is that why you got married young to fill the void
34:14
your dad left? And I was like, oh, excuse me,
34:18
Like that's I was like, OK, more, more, give me more of
34:21
that. He put I started laughing at
34:24
this. He laid down a handkerchief for
34:27
her to set her tiny Bony ass on. And I was like, oh, that's super
34:31
sweet. Even though like she was laying
34:33
face down in wet dirt before this, but whatever.
34:38
He sweetly gives her his jacket. Of course, he has a high fever
34:43
suddenly. Because he took off his jacket,
34:45
it's raining and you know when you walk in the rain.
34:50
The sudden high. Conversation.
34:52
Every time, stop it. You're like, it's warranted
34:55
because, you know, the Koreans are so like fragile.
34:59
They just are out in the cold and the elements and they just
35:02
fever. Oh my God.
35:04
You know, I believe that for a long time.
35:07
What's that? I always believed because of
35:09
dramas that when you go in the rain, when you come home you'll
35:14
be sick. And this is still like
35:18
20/20/2019 is when I'm on a trip, a work trip in London and
35:25
I went with a Co worker and it was raining and I was like, we
35:28
need to get out of this. Like we'll get a fever.
35:30
And he's like, what the hell are you talking about?
35:32
That's when he corrected me. I had no idea.
35:36
He was like, no babes, that's not.
35:40
My thing. Oh God.
35:43
But he says he's not a good person at this point and he says
35:47
he can be swayed too, which is a reference back to when she was a
35:49
little tipsy and said you're a good person.
35:52
But I still find myself being swayed.
35:55
OK. He grabs her hand back from the
35:57
fake hubby. Like when the guy, the second
36:00
male lead finally finds him and he like grabs her hand, he's
36:03
like uh, uh, no. Because let's just talk about
36:08
the second male lead for a second.
36:10
Why the hell wasn't he shutting down the second female lead with
36:14
a quickness? You know what the second male
36:16
lead reminds me of? A useless man.
36:19
He was such a coward. Exactly such a coward.
36:22
Why did you wait this long? Number one, I it made me feel
36:26
like if you really deep it. He doesn't respect her 'cause
36:30
you are just hanging around her because you know, oh, this girl
36:35
is not going anywhere. No future process.
36:38
She's 27, she's alone. Like she'll just be here and I
36:44
will always have access to her so I don't need to do anything
36:48
more. And then all of a sudden you see
36:51
competition and you're like, oh, someone actually does see
36:55
something good in her. Let me tell her that I like her.
37:00
What are you crazy? No, I'm sorry, it's too late.
37:05
There's another. There's another drama doing that
37:08
right now. Positively yours.
37:11
It's doing the same thing right now.
37:13
And I'm just like, guys, stop it.
37:15
It's not a line that works. You don't suddenly wake up and
37:21
be like, I actually like this person after I spent some.
37:25
And then he's sitting there messing around with the second
37:28
female lead like she's all over him.
37:29
She obviously likes him. She's confessed him multiple
37:32
times and she he doesn't say it's never going to happen.
37:36
I don't like you because get out of my face.
37:39
He likes being in that Gray. He likes being in that space of
37:45
just let the feelings be feelings.
37:48
Don't take any real action. And so he's having it around.
37:54
I really wanted him to get with the girl's mom.
37:57
I felt like she was having a moment.
38:01
Wait a minute. So you think the second male
38:08
lead should have been with the second female leads?
38:13
Mother, Mom. OK, yes, that's a take.
38:18
That's a take. But you know, I see what you're
38:21
saying because they had a little moment that that's the character
38:24
played by is Ho Jung Yong probably is an icon.
38:28
She is, but that moment I'm giggling.
38:32
Probably. At this like take wow how do we
38:36
even like redirect after this because.
38:40
But it makes sense. That's the scene I still
38:42
remember. Because she came to pay him off.
38:46
She was like, get away from my daughter, which I love those
38:48
classic scenes like it's it's a take on this classic trope in K
38:52
dramas of the disapproving family is going to pay off this
38:57
unworthy poor person. And she comes with her wad of
39:02
cash and sees her struggling with her little her wrist.
39:07
And he's like, wait a minute, right here.
39:09
Wait right here, let me take care of.
39:11
You and he takes care of her. He puts like these Bengay
39:13
patches on her wrist. And I was like, Oh my gosh, she
39:17
is charmed. She's charmed.
39:20
Harmed and chanted by him. Exactly.
39:25
So I see what you're saying. And the reason is it it sort of
39:29
showed her how much she was starving at home.
39:32
Oh, yeah. And I'm like, yeah, sis, you
39:35
need to be loved. You need to see what's on there.
39:39
Yeah, that's my why. If this was swinging like it
39:42
should have been, it could have happened.
39:44
It could have. It could.
39:46
Maybe. I mean, maybe that's the mock
39:47
Jung take is that he doesn't go for the daughter, he goes for
39:51
the mom and then implodes that relationship because the dad is
39:55
so awful. So she files for divorce and
39:57
gets with this like hot young thing.
40:00
Oh my God. I just took us somewhere.
40:03
OK, let's reel it back. OK, I'm reeling it back.
40:05
I'm reeling it back. OK, so episode 8, man, the
40:10
freaking female lead is crying in the street, ass on the ground
40:14
because she's a mess. Like he said so earlier, get
40:18
your shit. This is when he's being a little
40:19
mean to her and he's like, get your shit together.
40:21
I'm always having to clean up after you.
40:23
You're always getting hurt, you're always dropping things
40:25
and I'm always right behind you helping you get up.
40:29
And I'm like, girl, get up. Like you're in the middle of the
40:32
street literally wailing. I'm like, no, this doesn't work.
40:36
This doesn't work for me. You're not a little kid.
40:38
You're not a teenager. You're not even in college.
40:41
Get up. But the way the drama depicted
40:45
her, don't you think that works though?
40:47
Because apart from being a kind person and looking out for
40:52
people, what else does she have going on?
40:55
Well, I consider her like a caregiver.
40:57
Yes. And that's fine, except.
41:01
That is fine, but like school, what she hasn't found, her thing
41:08
she hasn't found like her exam that she's taking for five years
41:12
straight. She still hasn't passed.
41:15
Her professor is making fun of her for not passing.
41:18
She can't really afford to do anything.
41:21
Her sister is embarrassed and wants her to leave and buys her
41:26
a ticket to an island to like hey don't show up for.
41:30
That's insane. We didn't talk about that but
41:32
the whole reason why she went to Cheju in episode 1.
41:36
Absolutely diabolical of the sisters.
41:39
And then to turn around and the sister's debt is what has put
41:44
you in this whole situation. I just don't think she's angry
41:47
enough. No.
41:50
Where's the anger? I know.
41:52
Yeah, I do. I get it.
41:53
She's like in survival mode and she's caregiving for her mom.
41:57
She's going to work every day at her big girl job for the first
41:59
time. She's only done part time work
42:02
and so office dynamics are difficult to navigate I guess at
42:06
that big age and she's got a massive crush on the boss and
42:12
she's just trying to not lose her job.
42:14
I understand all of that, but as soon as she was crying on the
42:17
floor in the street. She lost you.
42:21
She lost me. I'm like, no, I can understand
42:26
if she was on a park bench, you know, it was just the floor.
42:30
The floor was what got me. Like, I can see you crying.
42:34
Absolutely. I can see you crying.
42:36
I can see you crying in the rain.
42:37
I can't see you crying in the rain, ass on the floor.
42:40
Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
42:42
Like there's levels to it. Yeah.
42:44
And I understand what you're advocating for her.
42:46
I believe you. And I believe her character.
42:48
It. That part was insufferable to
42:50
me. I hear you, I hear you.
42:54
Let's just chalk it up to I think they were trying to show
42:58
she's at the bottom bottom. She hit her bottom.
43:00
Yeah. She hit the low.
43:03
The show, the other part is which really pissed me off and I
43:07
maybe have to watch it again, but I felt like the first couple
43:11
of kisses that we got were probably the best in the show.
43:16
Anything after that I don't remember.
43:18
No, there, yeah, no. What happened there?
43:22
I don't know. I don't know because the first
43:25
couple of kisses were they were fine.
43:27
The kiss that I remember is the one that lands them almost to
43:31
them having sex. Like it was basically 4 play
43:33
kisses from the bow onward. I'm like yes that is some hot
43:38
steamy kissing. That's definitely a dynamite
43:41
kiss. But even before that didn't seem
43:45
very dynamite to me. And then after that, forget it.
43:48
Like it's we're just making faces over here.
43:54
Like what? Where's the rest?
43:57
I agree. Where is the rest?
43:59
And I got so annoyed because I was watching AI think a YouTube
44:04
interview with them, one of these YouTube shows and they're
44:07
like, oh, there's so many kisses in the show and they were all so
44:11
hot and you know, we kissed so much and I'm just like last time
44:16
episode 4. I don't remember you people
44:17
kissing. Oh like, did you really kiss
44:20
until like episode 14 at the end?
44:23
I don't remember. But I think it's also because I
44:27
was so annoyed at the show and it's in the back of my mind now.
44:32
I did not like. I have more notes here about the
44:35
second male lead. Like male lead decks the second
44:38
male lead. Oh yeah, he hits him.
44:41
He does because he thought he was cheating.
44:44
That was a whole nother thing is that he thought he he thought he
44:48
was like saving her from her, her cheating husband.
44:51
That's how bad the second male lead looked is that he was with
44:54
the second female lead and it looked like they were cheating
44:58
and they weren't and they weren't.
45:01
Anyway, I just everyone's jealous of each other.
45:04
I think the male lead threatens murder.
45:06
He's like, if something like this ever happens again, I'll
45:08
kill you with my own hands. What?
45:10
Yeah I know. I thought this was supposed to
45:13
be a ROM com. We're threatening murder.
45:16
Oh yeah, Umbrella. There's a whole umbrella scene
45:19
because she's outside his apartment hoping he'll hear out
45:22
'cause he's mad, because she lied to him, blah blah blah
45:25
blah. That felt very Coffee Prince
45:28
too. I there are just so many things
45:35
in the show that you look at and you're just like, oh, this feels
45:39
like it's from that drama, and that's from that drama.
45:42
Yeah, the DNA is all over the place.
45:45
I laughed when he sees. Her picking up toilet paper in
45:49
the lobby of the office because bunch of rolls go flying and the
45:54
janitorial is there and she's helping this lady 1 rolls toward
45:59
him and he picks it up and like hands it back to her.
46:02
And they very obviously play the flashback of the tangerine scene
46:05
from episode 1. And I was like toilet paper
46:09
versus tangerine. Tangerine, what are we equating
46:16
the? Toilet paper spill.
46:17
With the tangerine that spilled in the road.
46:21
And no, I think they were more. This is not.
46:24
A representation of like the first.
46:25
Few episodes versus the last, Yeah, bit of the show I think
46:31
they were trying to like. Show helping him either remember
46:36
or helping both of them remember why he liked her.
46:40
Yeah, why? Why he likes her?
46:41
Is that she's so kind and. Generous and she will help pick
46:45
up Tangerines or toilet paper off the floor.
46:47
I understand. I don't think it worked.
46:54
Not only that, I'm. Just like, why?
46:58
If I see someone in the street, what?
46:59
I'm just going to walk by, Of course I'm going to pick up.
47:03
Like, is that really the moment you fell in love?
47:05
I don't, I don't know. I don't know if I believe it.
47:08
I don't know if I believe it. It's just common courtesy,
47:11
right? Yeah.
47:14
There's some good parts though because he like pins.
47:16
Her against the door at the end of episode 9 and he says let's
47:20
have a meal, you and me. She goes, I already have plans,
47:24
he says. Cancel them and stay with me.
47:28
Don't go. I don't want you to go.
47:30
And they kiss. Yeah, that was cute.
47:32
OK. Are we picking up?
47:34
Are we picking? Up at this point, no, it's a
47:38
mirage because. They jump right back into
47:41
nonsense. Well, he starts telling her
47:43
exactly why he loves. Her.
47:45
These were like highlights, little blips of good things on
47:49
the way to this ending. That was just hilarious.
47:54
He confesses to her, she doesn't believe him, and then he starts
47:57
up with the you care deeply for other people.
47:59
I heard you encouraging your team members just now.
48:01
You're able to see such things because you take an interest and
48:04
have affection for your colleagues.
48:05
I'm sure you'll become a far greater leader than I could ever
48:07
be. That's why I like you.
48:09
Which I thought, oh, are they setting the scene for an ending
48:12
where she is leading the company like her dream?
48:17
Because at the beginning she has a dream.
48:18
Because she's such a great leader, A.
48:21
Great, you know, collaborator with.
48:23
Others. And she really understands the
48:26
ethos of this Johnson and Johnson like company that was
48:30
like, oh, is this setting up the ending?
48:33
Not really at all. He's like, you're proactive and
48:38
always curious. You're willing to check things
48:40
for yourself when you're curious is very admirable.
48:42
I'm just telling you why I like you.
48:44
So I'm like, OK, so she's curious and thorough.
48:46
Like it. These are managerial qualities.
48:49
Give me. This is a performance review.
48:50
Give me. A bonus, give me a raise like do
48:54
I go to the next step of pay like I I don't know.
49:00
Jess, I don't. Know what is the magic moment
49:04
and maybe they're trying to say he just likes her because he
49:07
likes her I know and he ends up saying that later he's like I
49:10
just. Like you because you're you.
49:13
Standard procedure here. Then for every other K drama,
49:16
that's like, why? But why?
49:18
And they're like, because it's you.
49:21
Yeah. OK OK.
49:24
All right. The mom's getting good together
49:27
and his mom ends up staying at her place.
49:30
I loved that. I loved that.
49:32
I. Thought that was a great.
49:33
Stroke of genius here to like bring them together and get some
49:37
more ROM com shenanigans into this.
49:40
His reaction is perfect and funny.
49:41
He's absolutely overjoyed when he's like wait, my mom is
49:44
staying at your house? Oh my God, the way he turns
49:47
around it's perfect. I thought that was great.
49:50
That reminded me of. Episode 1 or 2 when she says oh,
49:55
meet my boyfriend to the ex-boyfriend and like he also
49:59
turns around there and he's just like, I just hit the jackpot.
50:04
Yeah, that. Reminded me of that good
50:06
competition. Between him and the second male.
50:08
Lead at the house with the like a melody being a great cook and
50:11
a perfect husband material quote UN quote he can't chop fruit to
50:16
save his. Life.
50:17
He tricks her into getting close to him, asking her to move some
50:20
strands of hair out of his eyes while he's doing dishes, and he
50:24
says she's pretty, another reason why he likes her.
50:28
So like, all of this stuff, great.
50:30
I like all that stuff. At the end, the end of episode
50:33
10, is the fire which I was like back down.
50:40
Yeah, 99 and 10. Were cute when he got his mom
50:43
out of the hospital and he takes her to her house and now it's
50:48
sort of like an excuse for him to show up at the house all the
50:51
time. I was like OK, this is cute.
50:55
I have expected him to move in and be like oh.
51:00
I just need to be closer. To my mom and spend time with
51:02
her and what not. Like I was expecting that, but
51:07
with him I thought the second male lead I, I don't even
51:11
remember his name. It's OK, but there was a moment
51:15
where I feel like it's the name of the second male lead.
51:19
I feel like her mom. Said he was too good for her
51:25
daughter. Sonu was too good for her
51:28
daughter. And I was sitting there like,
51:31
yeah. I don't think so, because.
51:35
This man can't take any action. Yes he can cook and clean and
51:39
take care of his kid, but that's bare minimum.
51:42
I don't know. I also bare minimum for being a
51:45
single parent. Exactly so.
51:48
I wasn't buying that either, but I did like having him at the
51:53
house. I did love the scene where they
51:55
were washing the dishes. I especially loved his mom
51:59
witnessing that scene and then the rest went.
52:03
Down and then it went downhill. Because there's a fire.
52:06
At the art exhibition, he's he's there like in the start of the
52:10
fire where the fire ignited. He was there and unconscious.
52:15
And when she finds him, he's fine.
52:18
He's not burnt up, not covered in ashes, not singed at all, not
52:22
even a hair out of place. He's not coughing at smoke
52:27
inhalation and baby I checked fully out, no suits on him at
52:33
all. Nothing and she was able to
52:35
carry. Him out of the.
52:37
Fire where it started, where it started.
52:41
So firefighters have not even extinguished.
52:45
It's not active fire. And where they fall in the
52:48
grass. Very.
52:50
It seems like the back of the thing or something.
52:52
Like the? Grass thing.
52:54
It reminded. Me of my dearest and I was like,
52:56
I think this girl's color is green and they want to take
52:59
advantage of that green. Yellows.
53:05
With the high green grass, yeah. Exactly.
53:08
There's. No smoke in the background.
53:10
It's just clear. Beautiful day.
53:13
Beautiful day, Yeah. I again this is another low.
53:19
Point where I could not wrap my head around it.
53:22
I was like there another kiss. She's confessing.
53:25
He's confessing. She just saved his life.
53:27
And I'm like, they look fine. They.
53:31
I'm sorry. I just can't believe it.
53:34
Yeah, it broke all of the again. I'm pole vaulting.
53:38
I would have to pole vault over so many things that make it
53:42
unbelievable even when the phone rings did not make.
53:46
Us do this much? I didn't like this at all so.
53:51
Skipping to episode 11, the second male lead backs out of
53:54
his confession, saying it was only a joke and that he was
53:59
messing with her. I was like, that's an asshole.
54:03
That's a coward. That's an asshole.
54:06
I know. I understand his.
54:07
Why? Because.
54:08
He felt he needed to do that to save their friendship, and he
54:11
didn't want their friendship to be lost.
54:14
But let it be what you said. Yeah.
54:18
And if yeah, I didn't really. He didn't leave it up to her, in
54:22
a sense. Where it's like, OK, well, then
54:24
she gets to decide where we are, whether we're staying friends or
54:26
not. Yeah, he was like, just kidding,
54:29
like, whatever. And and then they run after each
54:33
other for a bit. And the second So at the end of
54:39
this episode, I also. Lost it because the baby pram
54:42
just unlocking suddenly and going careening down the hill.
54:47
I was like what the fuck? Everyone going cringe slow MO.
54:53
To catch up to it and save this random baby Yeah Made no.
54:59
Sense. No sense, but they needed.
55:02
To like. Fix whatever happened at work so
55:05
they were just. I would cut it out completely
55:08
like this show being. 14 episodes.
55:10
I'm like, you could have been made it 12, you could have made
55:12
it 10-8 at this point. For real.
55:16
Honestly, it's just so badly. Paced, and they keep adding
55:21
really stupid vignettes that Yeah, these scenes and these,
55:26
again, workplace machinations that either don't matter or are
55:31
so hysterically bad, yeah, but you know what's really.
55:35
Cool. Out of the moms, there's one mom
55:39
who has always played a comedic role.
55:42
I feel like I haven't seen her in a very long time and then all
55:46
of a sudden now I think she has four or five dramas going where
55:51
she suddenly showed up very popular back.
55:56
In the day. And I was like, oh, it's so good
55:58
to see you again. Is it Zhang Suiyong?
56:03
Yes, Zhang Suiyong. She plays.
56:05
Jung We haven't seen her in so long.
56:07
Like the fashionable? Mom who?
56:09
Has like a Bob. Well, I feel like I.
56:12
Haven't seen her in so long but she's been busy.
56:15
I just haven't watched any of the things she did.
56:19
I like her comedy, so they. Have sex in the next.
56:23
Episode he's like stop running away and I will never let you go
56:27
they make this baby carrier in this episode and they're
56:31
spending all this time there's like multiple montages of them
56:33
creating this baby carrier from scratch and I'm like this baby
56:36
carrier very obviously very clearly already exists in the
56:39
market today allow. Them it hasn't been.
56:45
Done by them before upsetting. It's upsetting.
56:49
To see how much time. Was given to it.
56:53
I know I'm bringing it up because.
56:55
I'm so upset by it. The next thing that I'm crazy
56:58
about in this episode is it ends with the dad, the chairman or
57:03
whatever showing up and slapping the shit out of her.
57:06
He slaps her so hard she nearly falls.
57:09
And it might not to say you know what?
57:11
You wouldn't see me ever again. Like you don't have to worry
57:14
about me. Like open fist, 5 crusty fingers
57:19
across my moisturized cheek. I I know you're fucking lying.
57:22
Like we're done. We're done.
57:24
That's your dad. No, no you would not.
57:28
Hear from me ever again. The only thing that helps is he
57:31
doesn't like. His dad.
57:33
That's the only thing that saves it.
57:34
But again, that's your blood. In front of everybody at work,
57:40
in front of you, No. And that, that the way that that
57:45
was handled again, was not enough for me.
57:47
Yeah, I also feel like. Again, it's different from his
57:52
episode 1 where he has built his own life outside of his dad and
58:00
he's just this amazing strong willed, you know, entrepreneur.
58:05
And then in this moment you don't see any of that.
58:08
In fact, the the show till the end makes it feel like he's so
58:14
amazing. People hate him like the sister,
58:17
the half sister and the guy, the Chebo guy.
58:21
They hate him because he has never had to rely on his dad.
58:25
They hate him because they ain't him.
58:27
Exactly. And I'm.
58:29
Not seeing that when it counts and I'm just like this.
58:33
Character feels. Inconsistent.
58:36
I can see that. You're like, where's the
58:38
greatness? Everyone's talking about yeah,
58:41
he's just telling. Them to do.
58:44
What he when it comes to the team, he seems like he's just
58:48
yelling at them over the reports and the things that they're
58:50
doing in order to whip them into shape, so to speak.
58:55
But he doesn't come across as like a great manager.
58:57
No, he clearly doesn't want to be there.
59:00
But. Then he doesn't seem great.
59:03
I agree. But then you you started making.
59:05
Me, think about all the romance dramas, romance office dramas,
59:10
and I'm like, who's been a great leader that I'd be like, yeah, I
59:13
want to work for that person. I can't think of 1.
59:20
All the boys suck, OK? So episode 13, they really gloss
59:27
over the reveal to both moms that they're dating and he asked
59:32
permission to marry her. He's like, I want to marry her
59:35
without talking to her. He doesn't.
59:37
Talk to her about this. He doesn't.
59:38
He just says. It in front of both moms and I'm
59:41
like, oh, that happened I guess and then boom, next scene.
59:46
What are you talking about? It's so it's so anticlimactic.
59:49
So then she's framed as a corporate spy.
59:53
Dude, the noble idiocy I was. Going to say oh she does the
59:58
whole self sacrifice thing. What?
1:00:03
What noble? Idiocy.
1:00:05
In 20. 26 well 2025 honestly every K drama.
1:00:10
Trope was in here, except they never met as kids.
1:00:15
Yes, which we should be grateful.
1:00:17
I guess we need to thank them for not putting.
1:00:20
That in fun, but like it goes from I mean this is trope tastic
1:00:25
like the whole thing is so many tropes.
1:00:27
Even in episode 1 like they had the Cinderella trope.
1:00:29
Yes, even the blue dress. The blue dress her.
1:00:32
Hair and everything is like. The Disney Princess and the
1:00:36
makeover and everything in episode 1.
1:00:38
These are feel good tropes that people either love or they hate.
1:00:42
Like there's no in between. But the noble idiocy trope?
1:00:45
I don't think anybody's gonna. In this economy.
1:00:51
In this economy. Yeah, with your track record of
1:00:56
not. Being able to get a job.
1:00:59
You're just going to leave a job?
1:01:00
Leave and not tell him what your.
1:01:03
Plan is not tell him that they're.
1:01:05
You know what I'm saying? Like, she knew that he was going
1:01:07
to figure it out. She knew that he believed her.
1:01:09
Yeah. And she was still like, no, I am
1:01:14
the spy. I am the rebel spy.
1:01:17
And then to top it all up, she wants to break up.
1:01:21
Wow, wow, wow, bitch. OK.
1:01:25
This is my favorite. Part of the whole show, she
1:01:28
finally tells her mom everything that's been going on.
1:01:31
She tells her mom everything. And the mom goes, let's sell the
1:01:34
house. And I was like, this is the most
1:01:36
reasonable thing anyone's ever said on this show because she's
1:01:41
talking about I was bending over backward.
1:01:43
I was lying. I was committing fraud to get
1:01:45
this job to pay off this debt, to pay off the hospital bills
1:01:48
and all this stuff and take care of you.
1:01:50
She was like, oh, we're done. Sell the house.
1:01:53
Overwhelming debts but you want to hold on to the house for
1:01:57
sentimental reasons? That's not going to pay the
1:02:00
bills, bitch. Like you're drowning.
1:02:02
Sell the house. No, but what debts?
1:02:06
Because the debts been paid, she's trying to pay him back I
1:02:09
guess. Look at that man.
1:02:11
Do you think he's going to make? Her pay.
1:02:12
And The thing is, I don't remember quite clearly because
1:02:14
when he paid. Off the debt?
1:02:15
I thought it was the shark loan debt.
1:02:18
Yes, it wasn't the shark loan. Debt.
1:02:21
Yeah, but that was really the only major debt they ever talked
1:02:26
about. If it wasn't for the shark loan,
1:02:29
she still wouldn't have a job. She still would be, you know,
1:02:32
doing her thing. They were fine and the sister
1:02:36
never came back. It's so inconsistent but I what
1:02:39
I. Appreciated was the mom saw so
1:02:41
clearly she was like Oh yeah we're struggling sell the house
1:02:44
sell the house I don't let's go away let's go we have.
1:02:48
Family in the countryside. We could stay with them like
1:02:50
it's not a big deal. Yeah.
1:02:52
She was like, you need to recharge and I was.
1:02:54
Like yes. Mom is so sane right now.
1:02:58
Let's talk about that. Fugly chandelier that.
1:03:00
The male lead installed in that bathroom.
1:03:02
Oh my God. What was that very trunk like?
1:03:11
That's a great pull. That's a great.
1:03:13
Pull. Speaking of great chandeliers in
1:03:15
K drama, the chandelier in the trunk, the bathroom chandelier
1:03:18
in dynamite kiss because they did a close up on this
1:03:21
chandelier and they had like thick copper wires around it.
1:03:26
Oh, I'll go. Yuck if you're telling him to
1:03:34
run my my forehead. Into that every time I go in the
1:03:36
bathroom. No, no.
1:03:38
I would have been like, take it back.
1:03:41
Not absolutely. Not not in my house.
1:03:43
That I own and he why is chandelier?
1:03:47
Like why? He just, It's dumb.
1:03:49
It's dumb. And this is the guy who's super
1:03:52
smart. Yeah, and has a multi $1,000,000
1:03:55
business. What are we doing anyway?
1:03:58
OK, OK, so we're on to the last episode.
1:04:02
I was wondering because I thought it was bad up till now,
1:04:05
right? I was like, why is everyone so
1:04:07
upset about the last episode? What happens in the last episode
1:04:11
that everyone goes feral? Why is everyone freaking out?
1:04:16
13 minutes into episode 14? He gets run over, blood spurting
1:04:24
out in the street. And I was like, Oh yeah.
1:04:30
Is it? Episode 14 that you're coming to
1:04:32
give. Me this.
1:04:33
The thing is, this has not really been a melodrama.
1:04:36
At all No this entire show so for them to pull a 2004 on us
1:04:43
right yeah he's. One month in a coma, he wakes.
1:04:48
Up he got amnesia. I literally.
1:04:52
Paused the show and I was like is this making?
1:04:54
The show better. I don't know, like this could be
1:04:57
making the show even better because it's so obviously bad.
1:05:01
Amnesia and the Last. Episode.
1:05:06
He thinks he's back on his. Trip to Cheju, he thinks
1:05:10
something happened on the way to Cheju.
1:05:12
His brain is all the way back at the beginning of the show.
1:05:15
Carol on a scale of 1 to 1010 being the worst, Zero being not
1:05:19
so bad, how bad do you think this last episode is?
1:05:25
I thought it was. Let's go 99.5.
1:05:32
I don't remember. I had to rewatch it to be like,
1:05:35
Oh yeah, what happened at the end?
1:05:37
Amnesia. Wow, these people really wasted
1:05:40
my time. They did.
1:05:43
They did. And like, they're so.
1:05:45
Unserious about it because they're talking to the doctor,
1:05:48
the neurologist presumably, who pulls out the freaking tiny
1:05:52
pointer hand. You know, that extendable
1:05:54
pointer hand that they were using back and forth earlier in
1:05:57
the show. So he pulls out one of his own
1:05:59
and starts pointing at the CT scan.
1:06:01
What are we looking at? I'm like baby.
1:06:04
This could not. Be less more embarrassing to
1:06:07
watch this show. I have in my notes running the
1:06:10
fucking clock because the rest of this episode is just running
1:06:14
the clock. I don't care about the sister.
1:06:18
I don't care about the dad, I don't care about natural baby, I
1:06:23
don't care about anything. The little kid goes missing like
1:06:26
the second male leads. Kid goes missing of course on
1:06:29
the day that the second female leads going to leave the country
1:06:34
go study abroad. This is why he should have
1:06:36
gotten with the mom I'm. Just saying but my thing is his.
1:06:41
Mom, so the male leads. Mom comes to our female lead and
1:06:44
says, I want you to stay at the company.
1:06:46
You have great ideas, you have great leadership skills or
1:06:48
whatever, all accurate. And she goes, no, I don't think
1:06:51
that's appropriate. She says no.
1:06:54
Then the. Mom goes well, how about you do
1:06:59
your own startup and I'll, I'll invest in your startup and I'm
1:07:01
like startup for what? What is she starting up?
1:07:03
What's the business? What's the business idea?
1:07:08
Don't. Stop.
1:07:09
Stop. It's like, what the fuck is she
1:07:11
going to start up? She gives her seed money for
1:07:14
what? For what?
1:07:18
I'm looking at her like how many?
1:07:20
Years. My HR heart goes on.
1:07:22
How many years of experience does girl have?
1:07:26
She's probably worked. At the company what 6 months?
1:07:29
Yeah, I don't, just a few months.
1:07:31
It hasn't been a year. It's her first corporate job and
1:07:35
we're giving seed money, yeah, to someone who could not pass an
1:07:40
exam five years in a row and doesn't really know.
1:07:45
She fell. Into the job.
1:07:46
She didn't know she wanted to do marketing, she didn't know she
1:07:49
wanted to do product development.
1:07:53
Everything they had that team doing, the mom team.
1:07:56
Doing the work of the whole company, evidently marketing PR
1:08:00
activations yo product development.
1:08:04
Product development from ground up.
1:08:08
No, no. Oh my God.
1:08:09
So then with 20. 20 minutes left.
1:08:11
On the episode, the sister resurfaces the one that put them
1:08:15
in debt and up and left in the first episode just abandoned her
1:08:21
family. The female lead sister, she
1:08:24
resurfaces in Jeju Island of all places.
1:08:29
She has a couple of part times there.
1:08:31
One is at the hotel that they were at at the beginning of the
1:08:34
show and the other one is doing some tours, some like forest
1:08:38
tours. I don't even know, it's just so
1:08:41
contrived. So what does the female lead do?
1:08:44
She goes to Jeju Island in search of her sister.
1:08:48
She brings her Cinderella blue dress from episode 1 and heels
1:08:53
and the mom's like, why are you bringing this?
1:08:55
For what? And she's like, oh, just
1:08:56
because, you know, whatever. No good reason, no good reason
1:09:00
to take all this shit because she's packing light one
1:09:03
backpack. That's all he got.
1:09:05
You know a girl is always going to have to.
1:09:07
Be prepared, she could be going to a party and she needs a dress
1:09:11
and a shoe. She ends up back at the hotel
1:09:13
where it all. Started and the male lead is
1:09:16
there at an event and she has to change into the dress of course
1:09:21
to be let in. She trips and falls right on his
1:09:26
lips, unlocking all the memories.
1:09:29
Stop, stop. I cannot.
1:09:32
Stop. And he goes stop.
1:09:35
Again he goes. Let's do that again.
1:09:37
Which? Is what he said in episode 1
1:09:39
when they first kissed and they had to run the dynamite kiss all
1:09:44
the way back. Wow.
1:09:46
My favorite part was the. Montage.
1:09:48
Of them back together and then boom he proposes to her at the
1:09:53
end of the montage and then get this a few years later.
1:09:57
Time jump. The second female lead is still
1:10:00
in the friend zone with the second male lead.
1:10:03
I told you the man is useless. Useless man.
1:10:06
No, just one of the. Worst second male leads?
1:10:08
I've ever seen. Honestly, no backbone.
1:10:11
No future like, what are you doing?
1:10:14
What are you doing? You're just like the.
1:10:16
Female lead. Just making faces.
1:10:20
At each other. The startup name is Dream and
1:10:24
Bebe, and they got a South American export contract.
1:10:28
For what? I don't know.
1:10:30
I don't know what the business is doing.
1:10:33
I think that is because. I feel like Korea has been doing
1:10:36
a lot more in South America lately, so they're just throwing
1:10:40
it in. My favorite is just South
1:10:42
America I know. OK.
1:10:46
The whole continent has the. Contract with you.
1:10:48
Like what the hell is going on? It's a hard, hard adjacent to
1:10:53
Africa. Like I went to Africa.
1:10:56
What? What do you mean where in
1:10:58
Africa? Yes, A. 100% so they did.
1:11:02
That to South America and. Then we got an entire dance
1:11:05
break at the end because it was a textbook happy ending, which I
1:11:08
I don't think anybody cared or wanted at this point.
1:11:12
That dance scene at the. End.
1:11:14
I was like, they're playing in their faces.
1:11:16
They're literally. They are.
1:11:18
Yeah, it was. Horrible and.
1:11:20
Honestly, at this point I'm starting to.
1:11:22
Feel like should we be abolishing Netflix because.
1:11:27
They're taking a piss. They are taking a piss, they
1:11:30
are. OK, what's so sad is this show
1:11:34
squandered so much potential, I think, and a lot of people were
1:11:39
disappointed, especially at the last episode.
1:11:42
Which through every horrible cliche and trope in the book, do
1:11:46
you think? And this.
1:11:48
Is maybe do you think Netflix understands the K drama
1:11:53
audience? So in some ways, I think they
1:11:55
understand. It more than we do because I
1:11:58
mean, this is a whole conversation, but I think that
1:12:00
Netflix is a tech company masquerading as an entertainment
1:12:04
company. And so they have so much data on
1:12:09
us, our watch behaviors, what we gravitate toward, what does well
1:12:12
on the platform, when we stop watching, when we start watching
1:12:15
shows. In some ways, I'm sure that they
1:12:19
thought this was a good idea. You know, like they were like,
1:12:23
definitely go for it because the data shows they like amnesia,
1:12:27
They like this. They they really enjoy some last
1:12:30
minute angst or whatever in a show.
1:12:33
But the Netflix is never going. They're not creatives.
1:12:38
No, what's sad is I think. If this was.
1:12:41
Airing in the traditional sense, which is to say they were
1:12:45
filming and writing the show simultaneously as when it was
1:12:49
when it's released, right? A few episodes come out and then
1:12:53
they're still filming and writing the show heavily based
1:12:57
on audience feedback. Yeah, I feel you probably would
1:13:01
have gotten a way better show. I agree.
1:13:04
And we would not have. Had such a.
1:13:06
Flippant ending. Yeah, You know, so it's.
1:13:11
Disappointing to say the. Least because obviously they
1:13:13
didn't get any feedback as this was airing to fix any mistakes.
1:13:19
Or, you know, stop with the second male lead nonsense.
1:13:23
It's tough because these two actors have so much currency
1:13:26
right now and they had great chemistry and it's just it
1:13:30
turned down the wrong alley. Another one.
1:13:34
For the dust, Another one you know.
1:13:37
At least in the beginning, we were gnawing at the bars of our
1:13:39
enclosure. We were all horned up, but we
1:13:43
were. That's it.
1:13:44
That's all the show. Has.
1:13:45
Going for it. The beginning was the beginning.
1:13:50
What a. Time.
1:13:51
Yeah. And then we forget the rest.
1:13:53
We did move forward. Is there anything else you'd
1:13:56
like to? Share about Dynamite KISS, the
1:14:00
experience of watching it, or any takeaways from the show.
1:14:04
Jen Kyong is still a great kisser that no.
1:14:06
Can't take that away from him. Still a great.
1:14:08
Kisser, Anna and Jenna is really pretty.
1:14:12
And she's very talented, yes. Do you think she's had?
1:14:16
Jawline shaving or implants on her jaw.
1:14:20
You know, because the more I see.
1:14:22
Her I'm like. Yo, she's had something done.
1:14:25
Yeah. So that her jaw.
1:14:27
Is more. Pronounced, yeah, maybe y'all.
1:14:32
Therapy to like completely remove the fats you have.
1:14:36
Maybe fat under removal or like life.
1:14:38
Or something, or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:14:40
But yeah, she was pretty before when she had a round.
1:14:43
Plump face. But this is true.
1:14:45
This is true. Wasn't.
1:14:47
Me that told her to get anything.
1:14:52
I feel like I saw an interview where they said she had.
1:14:54
To lose weight for this project. I think I heard that.
1:14:59
Or she was sick and she lost weight or something, which is
1:15:03
common story as well. I really don't have anything
1:15:07
else to say. That's fine.
1:15:08
We won't belabor the point. I feel like we've been here long
1:15:12
enough as it is. Carol, thank you so much for
1:15:15
joining me on this Dynamite Kiss journey.
1:15:19
Where can we find you online? In case people want some more of
1:15:22
your thoughts, you can find me on Instagram.
1:15:26
At K dramas musings and I'm slowly coming back on TikTok,
1:15:32
which is very different but I'm excited to be coming back but
1:15:39
yeah, you can find me on Instagram.
1:15:41
OK. Thanks for having me.
1:15:43
No, thanks for coming. And of course.
1:15:45
I'll have you back very soon on the podcast.
1:15:48
I love having you on. It's always a blast.
1:15:51
So thank you again. And you know, this was great, a
1:15:54
great exercise for me to continue watching a show that I
1:15:57
clearly would have dropped had we not had this episode planned.
1:16:02
Right. Yeah, I'm glad I finished it.
1:16:04
I'm. Not I'm not mad that.
1:16:06
I finished it. I think I had more fun in the
1:16:07
final episode than I had in the entire rest of the show, but
1:16:10
that's beside the point. That's been our show.
1:16:13
I'm Jessica and this has been the Tebaki Rambles podcast.