Latest / Draft Offsides Podcast / Road to 1000 I Before & After Ep: 90
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- 0:00I think it's kind of funny the way that Renato takes like
- 0:03scoring goals in Saudi Arabia so seriously.
- 0:05Like he scored that goal in the last the last game and he was
- 0:08like, so pumped. It's like, dude, you've scored.
- 0:10How you doing for a while? Pretty good.
- 0:12Yeah. Yeah, me too.
- 0:14Can't. Complain.
- 0:15Me however. Couple of couple of European
- 0:18champ. We're just a couple of European
- 0:19champions looking at each other. It's funny, there's there's
- 0:22three jerseys on here and there's only two European
- 0:25champions this year. Yeah, yeah.
- 0:28Are we 2 teaming? Only two teams who win trophies
- 0:30this year, Yeah, you know. Being in Real Madrid fence stuff
- 0:33because this is like only from a couple of years ago.
- 0:36It's it's already outdated. It's 13.
- 0:40Touché. Touché What's he doing now?
- 0:44He's just trying to get his his shrine in the picture, but it's
- 0:47too you can't. Whatever the balls, I wanted the
- 0:50balls to show. Congratulations guys.
- 0:54No, thank you. It's.
- 0:55Been a good year for me then though.
- 0:58Keep very happy about the conference.
- 1:00Yeah, I'm happy. It's still a cup, still a cup.
- 1:03Felt great. I went to the Fox and Hound and
- 1:05watched it with a bunch of Chelsea fans.
- 1:07So nice. Oh, that's a huge thing, yeah.
- 1:10I have a lot of people there. I wonder if this person I know
- 1:13was there or not. Yeah.
- 1:14There were a lot of people there.
- 1:15It's it's quite, a quite a crowd.
- 1:16A lot, a lot of cheering. That's great.
- 1:18Yeah. I think at the end of the day,
- 1:20the biggest thing about it that was cool was obviously it's a
- 1:22cop and you were expected to win it.
- 1:23But just that that that we've completed every European trophy
- 1:26and we're the only team to do that.
- 1:27And realistically, we might be the only team to ever do that
- 1:30because like, how many teams are going to be win the Conference
- 1:33League and when the Champions League?
- 1:34Maria is on it. He has a manager.
- 1:37As a manager, yeah, but as a team, yeah.
- 1:39Myrna has like the cool tattoo over here, the three trophies.
- 1:43Oh yeah. And yeah, I mean, keeps used to
- 1:47winning bigger trophies. But for you, and I'm not trying
- 1:50to be a Dick and shit on you, but like super happy for you and
- 1:53you know. Chris, I'm super happy as like,
- 1:55you know, someone that like should hate Tottenham.
- 1:58It was, I think you made it gave me a little soft spot for that
- 2:00win for Tottenham, just watching you suffer over the years.
- 2:03Fucking horrible over the years. This is the first European
- 2:06trophy I've seen my team win, even though it's not the fast in
- 2:09our in our history. Our rich, rich history of
- 2:11winning hasn't been like that for 17 years.
- 2:14Even 17 years ago it was a League Cup, so it wasn't though,
- 2:17you know. It was so hard for me to hold
- 2:20back and not shit on you because of your Instagram activity, not
- 2:24because you were posting about Tottenham winning it, which is
- 2:27obviously you're supposed to post it.
- 2:29What I wanted to shit on you on was that you were putting
- 2:32Tottenham, talking about Big Ash, talking about how you
- 2:35always win something in Year 2 when the year started, when they
- 2:38started, like, you know, the downhill.
- 2:39You're like, shut the fuck up with Dad, don't say it.
- 2:41You were like ready to fire him. Tell him not to say it again.
- 2:44You're posting him saying it. Wait, wait, wait.
- 2:46I'm still ready to fire him. But.
- 2:49I'm still ready to fire him the part, the fact that is, I'll
- 2:52give him his flowers. He fucking said it and he
- 2:54stopped to it. Mourinho said the same thing.
- 2:57I all like I'm a I'm a serial winner, but we fucked him over
- 3:00before the fucking League Cup and we fired him before.
- 3:03So I still, I still stand by what I said.
- 3:05I'm happy we won. Yeah, he got us there.
- 3:08Was it a fucking nice game? No, it was fucking terrible.
- 3:11Such a bad game. Such a bad game.
- 3:13What the last finals I've ever seen?
- 3:15Well, I mean well, you have a 17 and a 16 seat playing in the
- 3:18final. Like what do you expect?
- 3:20You say that, but you still expect better your professional
- 3:23football players. I think the Conference league
- 3:26final look better than this one I feel like.
- 3:28Finals are just traditionally really bad though.
- 3:31Like I'm not. We're not sitting here acting
- 3:32like finals are the best games. Usually they're bad games, yeah.
- 3:36Yeah, but that was, I think that was a record-breaking, terrible
- 3:38game, 29% possession, a stumbled in goal.
- 3:43Oh. Before we get into it guys, I
- 3:45have a dilemma that I made your help on, OK, kind of football
- 3:49related, kind of not. OK.
- 3:52I mean, we have time, right? We have like an hour because,
- 3:55yeah. So I wanted to buy the Samba
- 3:56shoes, which are becoming popular again.
- 4:00Not a fan of it. And why?
- 4:02I love sambas, I just hate the fact that I think they're going
- 4:05to try to turn them into the panda dunks, which I fucking
- 4:07hate too. So these are the the sambas that
- 4:10everyone wears with the blue top, which is made for like, you
- 4:13know, everyday wear. But us footballers know this is
- 4:16the real one, the original. That's the one I have, yeah.
- 4:20So I'm thinking of buying a pair, I just don't know which
- 4:22one to go with. And I also have the predator
- 4:25option as well. Seeing that you're a sheep when
- 4:27it comes to shoes anyway, like Mr. Yeezy, you might as well
- 4:29just get the one everyone else's game.
- 4:31So the thing I like about no, but these are like fake also
- 4:36like you know, when you put on Sambas, if something happens,
- 4:38you got to be ready to like join that five aside or something if
- 4:41you're walking around. I don't think.
- 4:42So could I, Can I try, man, can I chime in as someone who works
- 4:46in the industry? Yeah, Adidas is starting to
- 4:49pivot away from producing Sambas because they they don't want to
- 4:53like over saturate because they've been doing so well.
- 4:56Like they're still going to make them, but they're not going to
- 4:58make them as many colorways and as large of quantities because
- 5:01they want to try and constrict it a little bit because they
- 5:03think it's just been a little too overdone.
- 5:06So I think you're like, you know, like the bell curve of
- 5:08fashion. I think we're past the highest
- 5:11point. We're getting down to that
- 5:13backside so. Yeah, wearing, wearing football
- 5:16boots as dress shoes is gonna, that's cool off really quickly,
- 5:18Yeah. That's great.
- 5:19You've seen that there falls down and breaks a leg.
- 5:21It's. It's like a new trend.
- 5:23No, it's like a total trend that guys are the people are wearing
- 5:25cleats out like. Yeah, it's, I think, what was it
- 5:28one of the big fashion things was actually making shoes for
- 5:31like cleats. But no, like obviously like
- 5:33everyone has sambuts at one point or another playing
- 5:36football. So I kind of like seeing it on
- 5:39Irish people. I don't know what Irish.
- 5:42Yeah. Who the fuck are you, you
- 5:43motherfucker? Oh dare looking down.
- 5:47He wins one fantasy championship.
- 5:49All of a sudden he's a everybody else.
- 5:51But I also thought about getting like, have you guys seen the
- 5:54Predators? They look really nice.
- 5:55The new ones the. Flat, the flat.
- 5:57So predators. Yeah, yeah.
- 5:58So I'm thinking of maybe getting into predators, like kind of
- 6:00best of the worlds. Yeah, like, look at things.
- 6:02I think the Gazellos are one of the next models that they
- 6:05they're hoping are going to have a little bit of a revival.
- 6:07So yeah. Keith, you send me some money
- 6:10over the weekend. What was that for?
- 6:13Your championship. Thank you.
- 6:15I got more money from my second place in the.
- 6:17Other I know I was gonna call that out, is that in our 12 man
- 6:20league, it's a little more money than our ten man league and so
- 6:23that one is actually a little more lucrative.
- 6:25So Enzo getting second in that league, he got more money than
- 6:28Tigo did for first. Yeah, but I get to call myself a
- 6:30champion. And I got third in both leagues
- 6:33and I know I got more money than both of you.
- 6:35I saw Enzo put that in the in the notes and all he wanted to
- 6:40do was just find a way he could put himself above Vienna I.
- 6:42Was like, and that's fine. I love that.
- 6:45Thanks, Kate. I will say though that that was
- 6:47I had a like like you called it like a PSG level or not PSG
- 6:52Ajax, an Ajax level of collapse and I had an Ajax level collapse
- 6:56in the main league so. You did I fucking.
- 6:59Did you? Almost did, but you you managed
- 7:01to hold on a second. No, but I'm talking.
- 7:03About the Main league. He went from I was top halfway.
- 7:07Through the season so 6 and I ended up being 6.
- 7:10That's the bottom. That's form off.
- 7:13Yeah, and. That before we get into.
- 7:16IT team just fucking. Collapsed, man.
- 7:17Well, that's. When I think that the the
- 7:19beginning of the demise was first Young being benched and
- 7:22then Havas getting injured and then Jackson fucking just taking
- 7:26a. Shit, you couldn't.
- 7:27You couldn't adjust though. When when you your hopes are on
- 7:31Ashley Young being starter, you know that's a bad.
- 7:33Thing. Well, it's not hopes, it's going
- 7:34with the form that he was in. He didn't get dropped because he
- 7:37was playing bad. He got dropped because the
- 7:38manager changed and he preferred O'Brien.
- 7:41Yeah, no, no, that's not. Yeah, it's yeah, that's what
- 7:44happened. Listen again, not to it.
- 7:46Wasn't like I accidentally traded Diaz because I can't
- 7:49fucking read. First of all, which you did do
- 7:53and that's also probably why I got there and you kind of handed
- 7:55me third with that. You were going to drop lower
- 7:58than that. Very possibly if I didn't have
- 8:00DS on my team, if I didn't get gifted Diaz because you were too
- 8:04drunk and high and. Mushroom still forget about how
- 8:08much this This is why the draft matters and and season will,
- 8:12especially the first couple of weeks.
- 8:13Yes, Speaking of which, I've already started to think about
- 8:15my my rankings. Oh, really?
- 8:19Really. I've been, I haven't got into it
- 8:21yet, but I will be going into Ghost Points and I will be going
- 8:24Oakland. Oakland.
- 8:26Yeah, Moneyball. It's you don't even know that.
- 8:28You're not even saying it right. It's Oakland.
- 8:29There's only a term for. It's called Moneyball.
- 8:31No, no. No.
- 8:32No, no, no. Oakland.
- 8:33Oakland. Oakland.
- 8:34Oakland A ball. It sounds like an A hole when
- 8:36you say Oakland A ball. When was the last time the
- 8:38Oakland A's won anything? They never won anything.
- 8:40They never won anything. Yeah, they, they literally, they
- 8:42never won anything with Moneyball, but they, they
- 8:45created a new way. It's like it's like Southampton
- 8:47a few years ago where they looked really good.
- 8:48Well, no. Isn't it like Brian, how they go
- 8:51like? Sure.
- 8:51Yeah, no. No more.
- 8:53I know Brian, Brian and Lester because Lester did the same
- 8:56thing. Well, but Lester won something.
- 8:58Yeah, they won something, but. Lester weren't doing anything
- 9:01crazy that like. What they were looking at
- 9:03statistics. I mean, all those teams are, I
- 9:05think Lester were very direct. Like when you look at like that
- 9:07Southampton team from a few years ago with Mario Pochettino,
- 9:09or you look at like Brighton under Potter, they were doing
- 9:12new things that were causing the league problems where Lester was
- 9:15just hitting the ball over the top for, for for Vardy and
- 9:19Mahon. They was just destroying in the
- 9:21midfield. But I love the idea of Enzo
- 9:23thinking he has to look at the numbers.
- 9:25He's just looking at the numbers that we're still looking at.
- 9:27Like we've been doing, we've been doing this whole time.
- 9:30It's like you have. To look at numbers that other
- 9:31people are not looking at. And just like years, years,
- 9:35three of the pie guys like, OK, it's finally time for you to
- 9:37start looking. Hey, you know what I'm gonna go
- 9:40after? Clean sheets.
- 9:41That's. Vibes are just not enough
- 9:44friends or anymore. Actually, I also love the fact
- 9:46that you guys are already thinking about like next year,
- 9:48you're going to start doing like your it's going to happen, all
- 9:51that stuff. And then I'm just.
- 9:52It's very close. Well, I, I also think I'm, I'm,
- 9:55I'm thinking about next year because I'm just a sad
- 9:57individual and like, the season's over and I'm like, how
- 9:59am I going to fill my time? It's like, you know?
- 10:02Who else is looking at next season?
- 10:03Chessing over it, Nate. Nate fucking Nate, you can
- 10:06already look. We have to get them.
- 10:08Well, we'll have to get them on. I'll I'll text them.
- 10:10You know what? What else is funny is like every
- 10:12time I see you master rumor like Florian, where it's going into
- 10:14like Liverpool, which you know it's going to happen, I think
- 10:17about it. I'm like, oh, he's coming to
- 10:18Liverpool. I wonder is that a second round
- 10:20or third round there? What?
- 10:21What does that happen to like? It's like I'm not sure.
- 10:25I'm not sure Mamoush. I feels like a a first second
- 10:28rounder. He's not a pick him in the first
- 10:30or second round. Mamoush could be you've got to
- 10:33think like KDB leaves all these other player leaves he gets more
- 10:37game time. I think the the issue is pap and
- 10:41the amount of game time. I like I think if you're going,
- 10:44it's like I think you could so you could take a Doku or Savino.
- 10:47Like I think with Pep, it's like he just like saw you, you're
- 10:49having the best season in your life and Pep just like decided
- 10:52he doesn't like you one day. It doesn't play you for three
- 10:54months, you know. So I think I think that's where
- 10:57it's concerning. But like, yeah, you can make the
- 10:59argument if he if he becomes the Holland of the team or you know,
- 11:02like plays every game. And your backdrop is so bad.
- 11:06I just noticed the mess on the bed, the window and they might
- 11:08come again. OK, that's not a mess, that's my
- 11:10clothes set up for the days, OK? Is your work now close to your
- 11:14hotel? My work is 30 minutes away from
- 11:16the. Hotel.
- 11:17Oh shit yeah. But yeah, don't drive more
- 11:20machine the first or second round.
- 11:21Or do. Will do Moneyball.
- 11:24So it's like, do you want to take the risk of drafting Marmus
- 11:29in the second round or you want to get Rogers in like the third?
- 11:32I don't know man, like I said, I haven't really thought about it.
- 11:34I'm just trying to think I'm. Just as a champion, let me give
- 11:37you some advice. Fuck you don't say nothing I
- 11:39don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it.
- 11:41You don't want hey, I just draft for.
- 11:42Value OK. OK, but that's what he's Enzo
- 11:46saying. When Enzo says a ball or
- 11:48whatever he's saying he's saying draft for value.
- 11:50He's like he wants to look at. He's like he wants to find the
- 11:53Aerobies. No what finds.
- 11:55The Dwight McNeil what it was. Going to do.
- 11:57Aren't sexy that like generate? Points.
- 11:58He's going to like get the 1st overall pick and draft like
- 12:01Holland. He's like, oh look, it's
- 12:02moneyball. He scores goals.
- 12:04Well, no, the first, like first five picks isn't really
- 12:06moneyball. That's just a standard, you have
- 12:08no choice. Maybe the 1st?
- 12:09I would say the first two rounds are pretty, you know, after that
- 12:13I think. You did you drop second again,
- 12:15Keith? Trent Alexander out.
- 12:17Oh, I thought you tried. Who?
- 12:18I thought he. Was in 3rd, 3rd and 4th, which
- 12:20is where I went down. Really.
- 12:21Yeah. OK, let's let's oh, let's get
- 12:25into the episode then. I just have a question off the
- 12:27RIP and then we'll go from there.
- 12:28OK, Yeah. Hello.
- 12:31Welcome to episode 90 of Draft Offsides.
- 12:33My name is Keith. I'm with Tuca Enzo.
- 12:35Follow us at Draft Offsides. And also, if we say something
- 12:38about about Messi doesn't mean you should tell us we should
- 12:41die. Yeah, that was a little intense.
- 12:43Someone said you, we should die. That was the vibe.
- 12:46The vibe was you should die. No, no, someone literally said
- 12:48instead of closing ending the podcast and your lives.
- 12:51Oh. Yeah.
- 12:52That, that that got censored. It was really weird because it
- 12:56was just such an odd thing. And like for us, we all knew we
- 12:58were kind of fucking around. Like we were just kind of like
- 13:00taking the piss. But people got really upset.
- 13:03I'm not sure. It's just out of context.
- 13:04You got love the football world. People, there's such like messy
- 13:07fanboys too. There's some big loser messy
- 13:10fanboys out there that are just like what do you mean?
- 13:14Think. Think about this.
- 13:15We didn't even say anything negative.
- 13:16Think about the people who actually say something about it,
- 13:18like the famous people out there imagine they hate.
- 13:20Take it. We'll keep talking shit on that,
- 13:24see what you're on. Yeah, fuck that.
- 13:26Can I hang up? Yeah, you can do whatever you
- 13:28want. One, the one thing that's kind
- 13:30of funny is that I was thinking we were like, oh, should we say
- 13:32that? I found one of you guys like,
- 13:34should we say something about Cristiano Ronaldo now?
- 13:36Just like, yeah, just this dude. And I actually had a thought
- 13:39that was funny. And it was that I think it's
- 13:41kind of funny the way that Renato takes like, scoring goals
- 13:45in Saudi Arabia so seriously. Like he scored that goal in the
- 13:48last game and he was like, so pumped.
- 13:50It's like, dude, you've scored almost 1000 goals.
- 13:53Like this goal is just, it's just kind of fun.
- 13:55It makes me laugh a little bit. It's also shows liked it.
- 13:57But he still has the passion, but like watching it like score
- 14:00goals in Saudi Arabia, but he's leaving Saudi Arabia.
- 14:03It'd be interesting where he's going cuz he's gonna play in the
- 14:05club cuz he wants to get 1000 goals like and he'll get it. 60
- 14:09to 1000. I think he's like a 900
- 14:11something. So he goes MLS and hopefully you
- 14:13can bang it. A bunch of goals.
- 14:15Yeah, I read some stuff that he might go to like Club Monterrey
- 14:18in Mexico just for like a one month.
- 14:19Playing in the World Cup, yeah, he has 936 career goals, so. 70
- 14:24goals and he's, he's, he'll do it just to do it right.
- 14:28I think in two or three years he could do it.
- 14:30You think he would go in the league that be easier for him
- 14:32just because of age wise and everything?
- 14:34MLS But I think the the money to like the amount of money you
- 14:38could get there compared to like how easily it would be for him
- 14:41to score that many goals that that makes sense.
- 14:43Well, he's also going to play for Portugal as well.
- 14:45Imagine if he goes to LAFCII, think if LAFC wins their game on
- 14:50Saturday, then they're they're going to be part of Club World
- 14:52Cup as well. The marketing, money,
- 14:55advertising. But at the same time, does he
- 14:56want the people like following him?
- 14:58Everywhere. And also I don't know if LAFC
- 15:00has the salary cap and stuff for him.
- 15:02I mean, they have, they have Giroud, they have some other
- 15:04guys, but so there's someone. If he just wants to play for the
- 15:07Club World Cup, he just stand for.
- 15:09Like for nothing, for a dollar. Pretty much.
- 15:11The guy has so much money. No, it's not about money, but
- 15:14also guys like that don't think like it's not about the money.
- 15:17You know, of course they're like, hey, they pay me what?
- 15:19I'm worried because they think they're like less lessening
- 15:22their value. And they're like, oh, the next
- 15:23contract will they'll pay me less as well.
- 15:25Yeah, but yeah, I mean, I, I, it would be cool to see a guy get
- 15:28$1000. I hope he gets there.
- 15:30But it's it's just funny to me just how intense he is.
- 15:32Well, Romario in this personal record book has like 1200 goals
- 15:36really, you know? Yeah, well, I knew that.
- 15:39I knew there was some arguments with like Pele too where he
- 15:41claims that he has a lot more goals, but like a lot of them
- 15:43were like officially sanctioned. Yeah, yeah, Romario for his
- 15:47career has like a few hundred goals, obviously like an amazing
- 15:49striker, but he says when they asked he has 690 official goals,
- 15:54but he says he has over 1000. So people are joking like this
- 15:56guy's counting his Sunday beat goals.
- 15:58Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right.
- 15:59I think that's it for us, huh? Yeah, that's it.
- 16:01All right, well, this is a good season.
- 16:03Congrats, you go. That's that's a pretty big,
- 16:05pretty impressive win for you this year.
- 16:08I thought it was also pretty cool how all three of us got
- 16:10like top three in the main league.
- 16:13Yeah, ends up getting sick. So it's like, you know, it was,
- 16:15it was pretty cool to see. It's like for like the bottom
- 16:18half of the league and like we're sitting here giving people
- 16:20advice. Totally, yeah.
- 16:21But we had a good season. But man, like honestly, like I
- 16:24know we talked about solid carrying it and everything, but
- 16:26like 150 extra, it's like having a player and 1/2.
- 16:29It's having a player and a half. I mean, how many players score
- 16:32over 300 points? You know what I mean?
- 16:34Yeah, Like, yeah. And I'd actually got a curious.
- 16:39And I had them ranked 11th. I know that's so funny, but then
- 16:44why did you take him when you took him?
- 16:46I don't, I don't think that was the final rankings I was looking
- 16:48at. I was looking at those rankings.
- 16:49I don't think that was the correct final ones cuz I was or
- 16:52maybe I just didn't. I wasn't paying that much
- 16:53attention to it, but. 67 players have over 300 points. 67, yeah.
- 16:59It's honestly like, cuz when I was looking at doing at the
- 17:02rankings, I thought it looked considered his age might go
- 17:05Saudi Arabia and you manage all of that.
- 17:07But as I got closer to the draft, I was like, dude, this
- 17:09guy's been a machine. He's been so consistent so.
- 17:12Yeah, yeah, you had you had buyers remorse too.
- 17:16Yeah, you totally had buyers remorse.
- 17:17I don't think this was our the the what Sergei said over.
- 17:19I don't think that's actually the right one because me and
- 17:21Enzo have the exact same for everything.
- 17:23So I think it was like this was your.
- 17:24No, there's a second spreadsheet.
- 17:26The sheet one. Yeah, if you go to a sheet 2.
- 17:28Oh, there's a sheet 2. I just see a sheet 10 and a
- 17:30sheet one. No, on the bottom it should be
- 17:32two, two of them. I don't have it open
- 17:35technically, I, I don't, I don't have Excel on my laptop or my
- 17:38computer. Oh, there's a second one.
- 17:40Oh, I see. Yeah.
- 17:41So if you go on the second sheet one, it says everyone's ranking
- 17:45individually, like yeah. What I'm saying is that me and
- 17:49enzos are exactly the same on every single one, which I know
- 17:51we weren't aligned. Yeah.
- 17:53No, this, well, no, it's not exactly the same, is it?
- 17:59Yeah, it is the same. So yeah.
- 18:00Yeah, so I think there's I think there must be some sort of
- 18:02mistake there. But but yeah, alrighty, it'll be
- 18:08I'm gonna spend, I have to spend the next three months scheming
- 18:10on how I'm gonna I'm gonna out draft everyone.
- 18:14And then drafting Kuko in the third round.
- 18:16Well if he goes to United maybe. Have you heard rumors or
- 18:19Newcastle? Watch him like go somewhere else
- 18:21and someone else drafts him and he like fucking has the year you
- 18:23thought he was. Gonna have yeah.
- 18:25I almost feel like if he goes somewhere else I have to draft
- 18:27him just so that doesn't happen. Yeah, it's pretty much that's
- 18:31the deal. Yeah, and if that happens that I
- 18:33wanted to be mad. If he has a bad year, I'd just
- 18:35be happy that someone else didn't get him when he had a
- 18:37Goodyear. Alrighty, alright.
- 18:41See ya. Bye.