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UK Column News - 2nd May 2025 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's Friday, in the second of May twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty five, just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK Colin News.
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Speaker 1: I'm your host Mike Rumson joining me in the shudo
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Speaker 1: today Patrick Hennison, Welcome to the program. Patrick, great to
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Speaker 1: be with you, Mike, and by video link we have
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Speaker 1: Mark Anderson I. Later in the program we're going to
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Speaker 1: be covering weather modification, Yemen and more government snooping on
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Speaker 1: our private lives. But we're going to kick off with
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Speaker 1: the local election results because Nigel Faraja's Reform Party has
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Speaker 1: done very well so far in the elections, at least
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Speaker 1: where there are local elections taking place at all. So
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Speaker 1: these figures will be slightly out of date now because
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Speaker 1: these numbers are changing as we speak. But the Labor
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Speaker 1: vote has declined quite a bit, but it's the Tory
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Speaker 1: Party which has been absolutely decimated. So one hundred and
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Speaker 1: twenty one new seats for Reform in the local consuls,
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Speaker 1: ninety six down the last when we created these figures
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Speaker 1: for the Tory Party, lived Dems have gained twelve seats,
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Speaker 1: Labor have down thirty, Independents are down nine seats, and
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Speaker 1: Greens are up to so that's the situation there. But
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Speaker 1: Reform also won the Runcorn by election, and so has
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Speaker 1: another MP. Starmer called this disappointing result, but he declared
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Speaker 1: further and faster change as a result, And that's kind
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Speaker 1: of hilarious because there's been zero policy change under Labor
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Speaker 1: compared with the Tory policy agenda that we saw over
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Speaker 1: the last number of years. Now, we have to remember
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Speaker 1: that several parts of the country didn't hold any form
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Speaker 1: of local election at all this year because of the
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Speaker 1: constitutional vandalism which is taking place in this country. But
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Speaker 1: when I say that, i'm talking about it's the result
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Speaker 1: of the English Devolution white Paper, which the British regime
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Speaker 1: claims quote sets out how the government plans to deliver
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Speaker 1: on our manifesto pledge to transfer power out of Westminster
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Speaker 1: through devolution and fixed foundations of local government. But in
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Speaker 1: reality this is about transferring power into the hands of
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Speaker 1: the uber mayors like Citi Can and Andy Burnham, who,
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Speaker 1: as we know, we're rapidly pursuing in that zero agenda
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Speaker 1: amongst other globalist policies. And the argument for counseling democracy
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Speaker 1: in these areas is that there was no point holding
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Speaker 1: an election when the authority that the election was four
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Speaker 1: might be gone in a matter of a year or
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Speaker 1: so as they are transferred or recreate, re morphed into
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Speaker 1: these unitary authorities and so on. So the counties where
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Speaker 1: no elections were held were Norfolk, Suffolk, Essex, Thurrock, East Sussex,
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Speaker 1: West Sussex, Hampshire, Isle of Wight, Surrey and for its part,
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Speaker 1: by the way, Plymouth held no election this year, but
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Speaker 1: that was for a different reason because councilors in Plymouth
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Speaker 1: are elected in thirds each year, so third gets there's
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Speaker 1: an election for a third of them each year, but
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Speaker 1: it's for four year term and so every fourth year
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Speaker 1: there's no election as a result. But Plymouth is going
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Speaker 1: to hold a referendum in July this year for an
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Speaker 1: elected mayor. So Mark, I don't know if you've got
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Speaker 1: any comments on this, but this is a complete constitution
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Speaker 1: reform in this country. The role of the so called
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Speaker 1: elected mayors and their effectively dictators as we've seen in
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Speaker 1: London and Manchester is something that you've been talking about
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Speaker 1: for a long time because of this whole globalist policy
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Speaker 1: over mayors. What are your thoughts.
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Speaker 2: My in this good morning, guys, morning from tech bis
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Speaker 2: localizes globalism.
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Speaker 3: They themselves have called it globalism.
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Speaker 2: And so by putting people that represent the globalist ideology
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Speaker 2: and local offices, elections become superfluous because their whole ideology
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Speaker 2: and philosophy looks well beyond the normal city municipal responsibilities
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Speaker 2: and tries to embrace a global or worldwide consolidation perspective
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Speaker 2: from the local level. So elections become passe an anachronism
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Speaker 2: to them. That's my initial thought.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Mark, thanks for that. Well. In fact,
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Speaker 1: if you want to get some more background to this,
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Speaker 1: have a look at the UK column website and if
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Speaker 1: you just type in the search box elected mayor, there's
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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of articles and news reports that we've
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Speaker 1: been covering this for many years. Do have a look
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Speaker 1: at that to get the background. But in the meantime,
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Speaker 1: then the attack on jury trials, we're talking about constitutional vandalism.
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Speaker 1: The attack on jury trials continues a year or so ago.
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Speaker 1: The Times, which we must remember, is a newspaper set
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Speaker 1: up what they call The Times. Oh sorry, I do apologize,
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Speaker 1: I've missed that one. Just bring that off. Yeah, thanks that.
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Speaker 1: The Times Commission on the Justice and courts. This was
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Speaker 1: with a few setting policy in the UK, and we've
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Speaker 1: got to ask is this the role of a newspaper
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Speaker 1: to set policy in the UK? Anyway, they said it
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Speaker 1: was set up to consider the future of policing and
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Speaker 1: criminal justice system in the light of the knife crime crisis,
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Speaker 1: a lifting epidemic and growing threat of cybercrime, and concerns
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Speaker 1: about the culture of the police. And they also were
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Speaker 1: talking about court backlogs and problems with legal aid and
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Speaker 1: overflowing prisons. And now they published their final report a
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Speaker 1: week or so ago and they recommended a further reduction
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Speaker 1: in jury trials in the UK, with cases instead being
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Speaker 1: heard what's being described as intermediate courts with a judge
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Speaker 1: sitting and alongside two magistrates. Now, crimes heard in these
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Speaker 1: courts would include things like theft, drug possession, dangerous driving,
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Speaker 1: fraud and some forms of what they describe as non
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Speaker 1: serious assault. I'm not sure whether there is a non
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Speaker 1: serious assault, but anyway, the proposals are being backed by
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Speaker 1: the government along with five former Lord Chancellors and two
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Speaker 1: former Lord Chief Justices. So here is Sarah Sackman, who's
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Speaker 1: the Minister of State for Courts and Legal Services, saying
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Speaker 1: I think when senior members of Judiciary for Lord Chancellor's
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Speaker 1: the Times victims groups are clamoring for bold and radical changes,
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Speaker 1: including an intermediate court, I think it's an idea whose
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Speaker 1: time has probably come. She went on to say that
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Speaker 1: the government would wait for Sir Brian Levison's recommendations. So
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Speaker 1: Brian Levison is looking in the court's reform at all,
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Speaker 1: and a very key part of that is the removal
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Speaker 1: of the jury trial. And of course that is important
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Speaker 1: because juries have the right to annul bad legislation in
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Speaker 1: certain circumstances, something that juries aren't generally told, but it
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Speaker 1: is a dangerous thing. And imagine a major trampling of
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Speaker 1: her rights to see juries, the option of a jury
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Speaker 1: removed from anybody. And we've got to remember we're supposedly
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Speaker 1: innocent until proven guilty in this country. But anyway, let's
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Speaker 1: move on and Patrick, let's go to international affairs and
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Speaker 1: what's Israel been up to.
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Speaker 4: Well looked in our news feeds this morning, and we
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Speaker 4: found this incredible story here. We'll bring this up on screen.
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Speaker 4: Israel attacks ship an AID convoy that was heading for
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Speaker 4: Gaza As carrying thirty activists and crew combined and this
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Speaker 4: was attacked by drones. So the ship was bombed and
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Speaker 4: the group in question here on board. They're blaming Israel
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Speaker 4: and or one of its allies. No casualties have been
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Speaker 4: reported here, and just a quick update on that. According
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Speaker 4: to Al Jazeera as per one hour before this program,
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Speaker 4: all on board the Gaza Aid flotilla are confirmed to
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Speaker 4: be safe according to the Multese government there so they
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Speaker 4: had some issues in terms of rescuing them, some problems
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Speaker 4: with that operation as well. But this raises a lot
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Speaker 4: of disturbing questions. And we'll go to the Twitter account
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Speaker 4: here for the Freedom Flotilla Coalition and they're just giving
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Speaker 4: a description of what happened this morning. Here. Our vessel
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Speaker 4: is seventeen kilometers off the shores of Malta right now
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Speaker 4: in international waters, and they have been subjected to a
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Speaker 4: drone attack twice, says Yasmine a Car, adding that the
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Speaker 4: generators at the front of the vessel were the apparent target.
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Speaker 4: That's the accusation by the group there, and this has
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Speaker 4: been validated by a number of mainstream repoorts right before
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Speaker 4: it came on air. I might note as well on
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Speaker 4: board this is interesting. On board is likely colonel US
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Speaker 4: Army colonel veteran Mary Ann Wright, who is a big
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Speaker 4: anti war activist in the United States. She spoke at
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Speaker 4: the stop the war rallies, the big rallies there, and
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Speaker 4: also Greta Thunberg maybe on board this ship, as well
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Speaker 4: as well as a few other people that we have
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Speaker 4: talked to an interviewed. We all have confirmation as to
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Speaker 4: who's exactly. The main point here, Mike, is that they
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Speaker 4: had to leave from Italy because Turkey wouldn't allow this.
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Speaker 4: Is Erduwan, the Great I'm champion of the Palestinian cause,
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Speaker 4: will not allow any AID flotilla to depart from Turkey.
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Speaker 4: Neither will Egypt. Apparently neither will Greece nor Cyprus. So
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Speaker 4: the closest country they could launch an AID flotilla for
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Speaker 4: Gaza is Italy. Now this could spark an international incident
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Speaker 4: if Georgia Maloney decides to rev up her temper, which
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Speaker 4: is notorious, if she takes an interest in this story.
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Speaker 4: We've got some audio from this as well. We'll go
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Speaker 4: ahead and roll this video real quick so you can
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Speaker 4: hear some of the sounds from this morning. The So
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Speaker 4: that just gives you some idea the last scene there
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Speaker 4: was from the control deck of where the captains sent
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Speaker 4: all the different video monitors there.
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Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. Later on, we're going
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Speaker 1: to be talking about Yemen and John Healey's comments in
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Speaker 1: the House of Commons, and one of the things we're
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Speaker 1: not going to mention during that report is his complaints
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Speaker 1: about the so called Hearthy's attacking vessels in international borders
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Speaker 1: with drones. How much criticism has there been from the
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Speaker 1: likes of the British government, of the United States government,
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Speaker 1: European governments at Israel carrying out this attack.
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Speaker 4: There will be no comment on this by anybody, I predict,
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Speaker 4: nor any mainstream media or any of the concerned publications
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Speaker 4: for public welfare like the Times in others. I don't
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Speaker 4: think this won't even register. If all thirty people drowned
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Speaker 4: and died somehow and were eaten by sharks and someone
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Speaker 4: caught it on his cell phone, maybe then the Guardian
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Speaker 4: and the Times might report on this story. So the BBC,
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Speaker 4: of course, but we're still holding our breath. Maybe the Guardian.
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Speaker 4: It might get a mention in the Guardian, but we'll see,
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Speaker 4: we'll see.
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Speaker 1: Yes, okay. Well, in the meantime, in the United States,
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Speaker 1: what's going on with national security?
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Speaker 4: Well, this is the drama of the week, and this
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Speaker 4: ties into a lot of interesting stories. So let's just
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Speaker 4: look at the latest here. Mike Waltz, Donald Trump's national
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Speaker 4: security advisor was basically fired last night, and so he's
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Speaker 4: been shuffled in the great UK tradition of cabinet reshuffling.
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Speaker 4: He will now be the UN ambassador for the United
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Speaker 4: States because Trump's other pick had to go back to
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Speaker 4: a congressional seat because they're afraid they're going to lose
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Speaker 4: it to a Democrat. So elisaphonic, an arch a Zionist. Absolutely,
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Speaker 4: It's chosen by Mariam Addelson for that UN Bastador positions.
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Speaker 4: So they had to find someone who's equally as rabid
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Speaker 4: an Israel supporter, and Mike Waltz of course fits the bill,
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Speaker 4: so he shifts into there. Why woulds he fired? He's
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Speaker 4: basically taking the brunt for the signal Gate scandal for starters,
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Speaker 4: but I think there's a lot more. There's probably a
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Speaker 4: few deeper aspects of this which we won't find out.
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Speaker 4: Now he's been replaced by Marco Rubio. So Marco Rubio
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Speaker 4: is now simultaneously the Secretary of State and Donald Trump's
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Speaker 4: Chief National Security Advisor. Not that Mike Waltz was doing
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Speaker 4: anything anyway, So I don't know how important that job
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Speaker 4: is in the Trump administration when you really trill down
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Speaker 4: to it. The next appointee will be Donald Trump's sixth
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Speaker 4: National Security advisor, following Michael Flynn, hr McMaster, John Bolton,
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Speaker 4: Robert O'Brien, and Mike Waltz. So Donald Trump's been through
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Speaker 4: quite a few of them. So it's a job with
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Speaker 4: a high attrition rate, let's just put it that way.
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Speaker 4: But why is this interesting? Here's where it gets really interesting.
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Speaker 4: What else is going on in the world. A lot's
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Speaker 4: going on in the world right now. So here's Lindsey Graham.
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Speaker 4: So while imagine we'll talk about the negotiations, but him
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Speaker 4: and other Republicans are front running this new backbone crushing
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Speaker 4: sanctions program and Senator John Kennedy from Louisiana saying he's
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Speaker 4: going to turn Russia into Russian economy into fish food,
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Speaker 4: whatever that means. But anyway, here's Lindsay Graham. And obviously
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Speaker 4: there's a lot of questions I mean, not around Lindsay Graham,
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Speaker 4: of course, but around this type of policy here. Why
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Speaker 4: on earth is Donald Trump sending envoys to Moscow and
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Speaker 4: then Republicans are putting these types of maximum pressure policies
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Speaker 4: to force down It doesn't make any sense, But neither
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Speaker 4: does this. Trump says, any country that buys oil with
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Speaker 4: Iran will not be allowed to do any business with
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Speaker 4: the US. Again, high level negotiations, trying to get a
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Speaker 4: peace deal. So let's look at this. So Trump is
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Speaker 4: who knows what's going on here? And this has to
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Speaker 4: be from the White House. So Steve wit is the
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Speaker 4: special envoy, getting a lot of headlines. What sort of
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Speaker 4: negotiations is he doing with the Iranians? And also in
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Speaker 4: Moscow there he is with vadarik Putin. Meanwhile, the US
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Speaker 4: government is attacking both of those countries with more sanctions
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Speaker 4: and more threats and will single out Iran because we'll
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Speaker 4: get to that in a moment with Pete haig Seth,
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Speaker 4: the embattled Defense Secretary in the United States. So what
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Speaker 4: exactly is going on here? It's really difficult to tell.
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Speaker 4: It is really difficult to tell. So meanwhile, to make
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Speaker 4: matters even worse on the Russian front, as you know,
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Speaker 4: this is the eightieth anniversary of victory day for World
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Speaker 4: War Two. It's nineteen forty five to twenty twenty five,
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Speaker 4: the eightieth anniversary. This is a big deal in Russia. Okay.
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Speaker 4: This is probably on the national holiday calendar after Christmas
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Speaker 4: in Easter. It's probably number three. Okay in Russia. So
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Speaker 4: you can imagine why on earth, then does Donald Trump
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Speaker 4: tweet this this last night? Let's look at this Donald
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Speaker 4: Trump on X Here he is who knows many of
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Speaker 4: our allies and friends are celebrating May eighth as victory day.
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Speaker 4: But we did more than any other country by far
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Speaker 4: in producing a victorious result on World War Two. I
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Speaker 4: am hereby renaming May eighth as a victory day for
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Speaker 4: World War two, and November eleventh is victory day for
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Speaker 4: World War One, says Donald Trump. We won, we said
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Speaker 4: we won the United States. We won both wars. I'm
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Speaker 4: sure it is almost a slip. He sure said I
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Speaker 4: won both wars. But anyway, we won both wars, says Trump.
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Speaker 4: Nobody was even close in terms of strength, bravery, and
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Speaker 4: military brilliance. But we never celebrate anything, he's saying. We
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Speaker 4: don't get the credit. He says, that's because we don't
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Speaker 4: have any leaders anymore. Not leaders like me, says Trump,
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Speaker 4: And that what do is he saying anymore? That know
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Speaker 4: how to do? So we are going to start celebrating
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Speaker 4: our victories again. I mean, is this the United States
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Speaker 4: or is this North Korea? It's really hard to tell.
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Speaker 4: There's so much performative politics here. But you know, we
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Speaker 4: could go we could do a whole show on and
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Speaker 4: re litigate history for Donald Trump, for his benefit. But
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Speaker 4: I'll just put one or two useful statistics up on
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Speaker 4: screen here. And here's one of them. We'll bring this
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Speaker 4: up on screen. This is a fraction of a country's
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Speaker 4: population that died in World War Two. Who's at the
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Speaker 4: top of the list. It's Belarus, Okay, huge percentage of
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Speaker 4: their population. I think twenty five percent, one out of
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Speaker 4: four Belarusians died at the hands of the Nazis in
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Speaker 4: World War Two. Then's Poland, then Ukraine, then the uss Are,
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Speaker 4: then Latvia, Lithuania and so forth. And look at the bottom.
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Speaker 4: Who's right down there at the bottom. It's the United States,
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Speaker 4: right at the bottom. So, in terms of human sacrifice
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Speaker 4: at the altar of victory in World War Two and
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Speaker 4: the price incurred by countries, the United States isn't even
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Speaker 4: in the running in that sense. If you want a
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Speaker 4: visual map of this. Obviously there's a lot of different
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Speaker 4: sources for this, but in terms of total losses troops
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Speaker 4: and civilians, the Russian losses are estimated between twenty five
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Speaker 4: and twenty seven million. That's compared to the four hundred
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Speaker 4: thousand plus from the United States, who arguably entered the
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Speaker 4: war very late, very late. Indeed, and so here this
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Speaker 4: is open source aggregate data which is available on Wikipedia.
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Speaker 4: And again you can see the totals there Soviet Unions
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Speaker 4: right up at the top, Poland and so forth, Yugoslavia
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Speaker 4: in France and so forth. The United States isn't really
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Speaker 4: one of the top countries. They're not even really in
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Speaker 4: comparison to the Soviet Union. So and another history lesson.
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Speaker 4: We talk a lot about, you know, D Day and Normandy.
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Speaker 4: You have to remind people that by the time the
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Speaker 4: Americans arrived on the beaches in Normandy, the Russians were
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Speaker 4: already in German and on their way to Berlin in
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Speaker 4: nineteen forty four. But arguably it was the Eastern Front
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Speaker 4: that broke the back of the Wehrmacht. We're talking about
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Speaker 4: the Battle of Stalingrad, the Battle of Kursk, and of
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Speaker 4: course the big one, Operation Bagration on June twenty second,
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Speaker 4: just three weeks after the commencement of Operation Overlord or
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Speaker 4: the D Day Landings. This was one of the biggest
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Speaker 4: military operations ever in the history of warfare, and arguably,
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Speaker 4: if you look at what was in play here, there's
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Speaker 4: nothing even close in World War Two. So again, having
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Speaker 4: to litigate this history lesson with a US president that
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Speaker 4: looks like he is completely delusional, and I'm being very
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Speaker 4: kind there and doing it at a time when you're
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Speaker 4: negotiating why Russia's preparing for Victory Day. I can't imagine
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Speaker 4: a bigger implicit insult to the Russians than what Donald
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Speaker 4: Trump is attempting to do there.
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Speaker 1: So do you think this, Lindsey Graham and whatnot over
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Speaker 1: to Russia? This is something that's happening absolutely independent of Trump.
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Speaker 1: It's a Republican effort and he has no say in
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Speaker 1: it or it does even have any knowledge of their
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Speaker 1: plans to do this. Are they just are they directly
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Speaker 1: attempting to undermine his efforts or is there some kind
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Speaker 1: of US good cop bad COLP thing going on here?
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Speaker 4: There could be a good cop backup. But definitely Trump's
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Speaker 4: team is split on the issue of Ukraine. They're definitely
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Speaker 4: split on Iran. It seems appears that way anyway. So
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Speaker 4: the Republican Party is not in lockstep with Donald Trump,
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Speaker 4: even though he has the commanding heights of the GOP.
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Speaker 4: So there are some differences and interest and certainly people
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Speaker 4: like Lindsay Graham and who he represents, they want to
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Speaker 4: see the war goo as long as possible, and so
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Speaker 4: Donald Trump is really a sort of obstacle to what
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Speaker 4: they want, which is, you know, these Americans are so crass.
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Speaker 4: They're quite happy to watch the Europe tear itself to
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Speaker 4: pieces and then just waltz in at the last moment
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Speaker 4: and provide lots of money for reconstruction and you know,
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Speaker 4: take credit for winning. I mean, we've already made our
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Speaker 4: case here. So and again I'll say this very briefly, Mike,
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Speaker 4: because this is an important point. This is the danger
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Speaker 4: with the United States backing out of NATO. While NATO
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Speaker 4: is a malignant force in its expansionist ways, okay, but
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Speaker 4: it works when there's a pragmatic, responsible, compassionate US leader
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Speaker 4: in power. But with Biden and it became completely you know, malignant.
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Speaker 4: But if Trump pulls out of NATO, then there's a
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Speaker 4: power vacuum. Who's going to fill that power vacuum Britain
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Speaker 4: or Estonia or radical elements of Germany, And then the
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Speaker 4: US could get pulled back into Europe because a European
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Speaker 4: party did what they've done, what they normally do is
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Speaker 4: petty tribal and ethnic rivalries in Europe or economic subterfuge
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Speaker 4: by certain countries pulls the United States back into bigger
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Speaker 4: war in Europe. Could that happen? It has happened in history. Okay,
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Speaker 4: So do we want to see that happen again? Absolutely not.
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Speaker 4: This is why we're raising the alarm right now. So
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Speaker 4: it's a paradox, Mike, it's a difficult problem to solve.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, thank you for that. Okay, let's move on then.
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Speaker 1: And weather modification. We're sticking to the United States for
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Speaker 1: a second. I'm sure many people have heard by now
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Speaker 1: that legislation that the Florida Governor Rond de Santis supports
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Speaker 1: were supported to crack down on suspected weather modification in Florida,
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Speaker 1: including activity related to so called camtrails, is now cleared
21:40
Speaker 1: for his signature, and well there's his tweet. I support
21:44
Speaker 1: the bill bys Senator Elia Garcia USA, the ban geoengineering
21:49
Speaker 1: and weather modification. And so this was resulted in a
21:55
Speaker 1: brief but a pretty heated discussion on the House floor,
21:59
Speaker 1: the Florida High Floor. Eventually, the vote was eighty two
22:02
Speaker 1: to twenty eight in favor, which makes unauthorized cloud seating
22:07
Speaker 1: and other activities similar to that a third degree felony,
22:11
Speaker 1: punishable by up to five years in prison and a
22:13
Speaker 1: significant fine of up to one hundred thousand dollars. Each
22:18
Speaker 1: individual infraction would count as a separate violation, and that
22:21
Speaker 1: would potentially lead to much longer and much higher penalties,
22:26
Speaker 1: either longer time in prison or bigger fines. I'm beginning
22:29
Speaker 1: on the first of October this year. Anybody that's operating
22:32
Speaker 1: a publicly owned airport has to submit monthly reports to
22:36
Speaker 1: the Florida Department of Transport on any aircraft equipped to
22:41
Speaker 1: disperse substances with climate altering capabilities, and that, as I say,
22:45
Speaker 1: includes cloud seeding, and any airport failing to do so
22:48
Speaker 1: would lose state funding. So that's quite a development. Florida
22:53
Speaker 1: becomes a second state in the United States to implement
22:57
Speaker 1: such a ban. Utah is the leading state, so you know,
23:02
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've got any thoughts on that.
23:03
Speaker 4: Well, from a state by state basis, certainly this is
23:06
Speaker 4: going to have a different meaning. Obviously in the agricultural
23:11
Speaker 4: states and what they call the flyover states. Cloud seating
23:14
Speaker 4: has been a long running process in terms of making
23:17
Speaker 4: it rain during periods of drought and so forth, but
23:21
Speaker 4: it's also gone horribly wrong in places like California as well,
23:25
Speaker 4: as we've seen in recent in recent years. So again,
23:29
Speaker 4: the United States is a big country and each state
23:32
Speaker 4: has potentially a different agenda there. Certainly there's a lot
23:36
Speaker 4: of people that are concerned with chem trails, contrails, what
23:41
Speaker 4: lines in the sky, whatever you want to call them,
23:44
Speaker 4: So is that going to have something to do with it? Certainly?
23:47
Speaker 4: I think the dimming the sun story came out of
23:51
Speaker 4: the UK recently has also prompt some big, big discussions
23:55
Speaker 4: and backlash on this.
23:56
Speaker 1: Issue, and that's what's needed more discussion. So Mark, let
24:00
Speaker 1: me welcome you to listen. The reports I saw said
24:03
Speaker 1: that Utah was the first hit to buyd geo engineering,
24:07
Speaker 1: but they's clearly still continuing with cloud seating.
24:12
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely.
24:13
Speaker 2: This is a complex issue and the word you used
24:17
Speaker 2: there mic was a very keyword, unauthorized. And I'm doing
24:21
Speaker 2: an overview of this issue, kind of bearing down on
24:23
Speaker 2: it with the intent of talking to people very soon.
24:27
Speaker 2: I have one appointment for Monday that are in the
24:30
Speaker 2: cloud seating business and to talk to some local meteorologists
24:33
Speaker 2: and get this to be a more public discussion, because
24:36
Speaker 2: a lot of people, even though cloud seating is open
24:40
Speaker 2: in plain sight, yet a lot of people don't realize much,
24:44
Speaker 2: if anything about it in terms of its existence or
24:46
Speaker 2: the nature of it. Anyway, Ironically, Utah, one of the
24:50
Speaker 2: two states you just named its cloud seating program, according
24:53
Speaker 2: to a very recent article by ku Er is the
24:56
Speaker 2: envy of the drought weary West that published April twenty four,
25:01
Speaker 2: so very recently.
25:03
Speaker 5: And we'll move on with a little bit a description
25:06
Speaker 5: about this. You talk as home to the nation's largest
25:12
Speaker 5: largest cloud seating program, the Crossroads Ology's pad according to report,
25:17
Speaker 5: basicallycome abound for clutter West. Get this, This article couldn't
25:21
Speaker 5: even go two paragraphs without saying this. With water managers,
25:25
Speaker 5: private sector investors, and conspiracy theorists there, they are keeping
25:29
Speaker 5: a close eye on their progress advocates are saying that
25:32
Speaker 5: technology works. They just need to know to what degree
25:37
Speaker 5: it's a practice involving millions of dollars in public funding. Guys,
25:40
Speaker 5: countless snowflakes. They can also make it snow, not just rain.
25:43
Speaker 5: They're not talking about liberal snowflakes and a string of
25:46
Speaker 5: death threats.
25:47
Speaker 2: Of course, that's the conspiracy theorist allegedly, and the technology
25:51
Speaker 2: this news outlet is saying is strikingly uncomplicated, which is true.
25:57
Speaker 2: The same article refers to a Jared Smith. He lives
26:00
Speaker 2: you're Ogden, Utah, and all this involves is a solar
26:03
Speaker 2: charge battery, a tank of non toxic silver iodide that's
26:07
Speaker 2: the main cloud seating substance, a tank of pro paying
26:11
Speaker 2: some FLEs and he works for Salt Lake City based
26:14
Speaker 2: North American Weather Consultants. And get this, they operate two
26:18
Speaker 2: hundred of these setups across Utah. So to ban this
26:23
Speaker 2: and yoube all together would be a difficultul thing.
26:28
Speaker 1: And that's the are have to interrupt there because this
26:36
Speaker 1: connection is extremely bad. Could you try rejoining the connection
26:40
Speaker 1: place and let's let's see if we can get this
26:43
Speaker 1: to work. We may have to give Mark a second
26:45
Speaker 1: to come back and we may have to move on
26:47
Speaker 1: and restarted the circle back to the circle box of
26:51
Speaker 1: the story. Yeah, okay, let's just do that and let's
26:56
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28:33
Speaker 1: let's move on then to Yemen and well. Earlier this
28:38
Speaker 1: week UK forces participated in a joint operation with US
28:43
Speaker 1: forces against the so called Houthy Military Target ACE so
28:48
Speaker 1: called Houthy Military Target in Yemen. The Ministry of Defense
28:52
Speaker 1: says that the action was in line with long long
28:55
Speaker 1: standing policy of the UK government following the Hoothy's initiating
28:59
Speaker 1: their campaign of attacks in November twenty twenty three, which
29:03
Speaker 1: the Ministry Defense maintains threatens freedom of navigation in the
29:07
Speaker 1: Red Sea and that brings us back to the issue
29:10
Speaker 1: with what Israel's just done. But anyway, careful intelligence analysis,
29:14
Speaker 1: according to the Ministry Defense, has identified or did identify
29:19
Speaker 1: a cluster of buildings used by the Huthis the manufactured
29:22
Speaker 1: drones of the type used to attack ships in the
29:25
Speaker 1: Red Sea and Gulf of Aden, and this was located
29:28
Speaker 1: fifteen miles south of Sana and so the Royal Air
29:32
Speaker 1: Force typhoons with every fueling support from voyage attackers, engaged
29:36
Speaker 1: a number of these buildings, this is their words, using
29:39
Speaker 1: paveway for precision guided bombs. And this was only done
29:44
Speaker 1: though they say once very careful planning had been completed
29:47
Speaker 1: to minimize risks civilians or non military infrastructure, and as
29:50
Speaker 1: a further precaution, this strike was conducted after dark, when
29:54
Speaker 1: they say the likelihood of any civilians being in the
29:57
Speaker 1: area was reduced. Further, do you buy that?
30:00
Speaker 4: Who knows?
30:01
Speaker 1: Who knows? Well, look, we have to say that. Well,
30:08
Speaker 1: I'm going to say that. Mister Healey was making a
30:13
Speaker 1: comment in the Heights of Commons saying that they make
30:16
Speaker 1: no mistake. He said the Houthi's act is an agent
30:19
Speaker 1: of instability across the region. That was his claim. They
30:23
Speaker 1: continue to receive backing from Iran, and get this, he
30:26
Speaker 1: couldn't leave Russia out, and even Russia has attempted to
30:29
Speaker 1: support the Houthy operation support attempted.
30:31
Speaker 4: Yes, that's dangerous.
30:33
Speaker 1: So he said that the aggression in the Red Sea
30:36
Speaker 1: and the Gulf of d is yet another example of
30:38
Speaker 1: how our adversaries are increasingly working together against our interests,
30:44
Speaker 1: against the interests of the British government.
30:46
Speaker 4: So it justifies killing civilians, even if we're taking all
30:50
Speaker 4: measures to, you know, reduce the risk of civilian casualties.
30:56
Speaker 4: But even if you kill one, what's the justification for that?
31:00
Speaker 4: That the Yemen's violated your interests? Yes, but they haven't
31:03
Speaker 4: actually attacked anything in your country, none of your people,
31:07
Speaker 4: not even your military assets that are flying by giving them,
31:10
Speaker 4: thumbing their noses at the Yemeni's right, none of that.
31:14
Speaker 4: So there's no expeditionary element to the answer a La
31:18
Speaker 4: aka the hoothis. There's nothing absolutely right. So it's just
31:21
Speaker 4: threats and no mention of why the Yemenis are interdicting
31:26
Speaker 4: Israeli ships. Why are they doing? Can we get any
31:29
Speaker 4: mention of that from any of the politicians? Was that verboten.
31:33
Speaker 4: Are we allowed to talk about that?
31:35
Speaker 1: Apparently not. But anyway, this is from your YouTube, your
31:40
Speaker 1: Twitter fate. This is allegedly the aftermath of what happened.
31:44
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, well this is I think this is from
31:47
Speaker 4: an earlier airstrike. I'm not sure. But anyway, the contacts
31:53
Speaker 4: that we the journalists that we follow in Yemen are
31:56
Speaker 4: basically saying that this targeting is just basically ad hoc,
32:00
Speaker 4: that their intelligence isn't really very much to speak of,
32:04
Speaker 4: and its civilians are being killed in Yemen, and the
32:08
Speaker 4: Yemenies continue to strike back at US military and that's
32:13
Speaker 4: the amazing part because there strikes against US aircraft. The
32:18
Speaker 4: number of downed US drones, combat drones and lost aircraft
32:22
Speaker 4: continues to mount. And this is the poorest country in
32:26
Speaker 4: the world. Yet how's this happening interesting?
32:30
Speaker 1: So that it's not going all together perfectly for the
32:32
Speaker 1: United States in the area?
32:33
Speaker 4: Is it not even close? Not even close? So bring
32:36
Speaker 4: this up on screen here. And we're not picking the
32:39
Speaker 4: Guardian for any particular reason. We just like we thought
32:42
Speaker 4: had a better photograph. But other mainstream media outlets are
32:46
Speaker 4: reporting on this right now. A fighter jet rolled off
32:50
Speaker 4: the aircraft carrier. I believe it's the USS, Harry Truman,
32:53
Speaker 4: if I'm not mistaken, Yes, Harry S. Truman, And to
32:56
Speaker 4: swerve to avoid a houthy missile. Can you believe that?
33:00
Speaker 4: So initially they made up a fake story and put
33:02
Speaker 4: it out the government, US government, the pena Pete Hegseth
33:06
Speaker 4: put out a fake or the media put out a
33:08
Speaker 4: fake story that somehow this was just a routine sort
33:11
Speaker 4: of accident. No, it wasn't. Now we find out US
33:14
Speaker 4: sailors had to leap for their lives after an FA
33:17
Speaker 4: eighteen fighter a super Hornet, fell off the Harry S.
33:21
Speaker 4: Truman aircraft care reportedly making quote evasive maneuvers to avoid
33:26
Speaker 4: a hoothy missile in the Red Sea on Monday. And
33:29
Speaker 4: it goes on and the jet, along with the vessel
33:32
Speaker 4: towing it, rolled right out of the hangar and into
33:36
Speaker 4: the Red Sea, said the US Navy spokesperson here, So
33:40
Speaker 4: what's going on there? And I got obviously this is
33:43
Speaker 4: a nightmare for the Trump's embattled defense secretary. There he
33:47
Speaker 4: is Pete hagg Seth, the crusader himself. And let's look
33:52
Speaker 4: at what he So Pete Hegg says, follow up to this,
33:55
Speaker 4: disaster on Monday. Is this a message to youran we
33:59
Speaker 4: see lethal support for the houthies. We know exactly what
34:03
Speaker 4: you're doing. You know very well what the US military
34:06
Speaker 4: is capable of, and you were warned you will pay
34:10
Speaker 4: the consequence at the time of our place and choosing.
34:13
Speaker 4: So again, the US has picked this fight with the
34:16
Speaker 4: Yemeni's and Pete Hegseth is, you know, saber rattling while
34:21
Speaker 4: he's bombing them. It's ridiculous. The whole thing is ridiculous.
34:25
Speaker 4: So I think Pete Hegseth is probably going to get
34:27
Speaker 4: fired pretty soon because this is this is very irrational behavior,
34:32
Speaker 4: plus the signal Gate scandal plus plus plus. This guy
34:36
Speaker 4: isn't even qualified to head the US military. He was
34:38
Speaker 4: a Fox News weekend host who was flogging ghost writer
34:43
Speaker 4: books just a few months ago, and suddenly he's the
34:47
Speaker 4: head of one point two train dollar Pentagon. Pretty amazing,
34:52
Speaker 4: But that's life in reality TV.
34:53
Speaker 1: Mike, Yes, indeed it is. Mark. Let's come back to
34:57
Speaker 1: you then, sorry for the problems, and let's come back
35:01
Speaker 1: onto the issue of cloud seating.
35:07
Speaker 2: Yes, apologies, I tried a different kind of hookup. It
35:10
Speaker 2: should be a lot better.
35:11
Speaker 3: Let me know.
35:12
Speaker 2: Anyway, I was talking about the North American Weather Consultants
35:15
Speaker 2: and they've been at this for seventy years, primarily in Utah,
35:19
Speaker 2: where we're hearing there might be some kind of alleged
35:21
Speaker 2: ban and they say in their slogan Climate and Weather Experts,
35:25
Speaker 2: we make it rain literally as they pronounce, and we'll
35:30
Speaker 2: continue dissecting this issue to get to kind of a
35:35
Speaker 2: broader perspective on it. This is also from the NAWC
35:39
Speaker 2: Environmentally Responsible Rainfall and Snowfall Augmentation. They began performing their
35:45
Speaker 2: cloud seating in California in nineteen fifty two, so it's
35:48
Speaker 2: not just Utah. Their operations have grown immensely and now
35:52
Speaker 2: their programs through that outfit are California, Utah, and into Colorado.
35:56
Speaker 2: And they customize the programs they say, according to armers
36:00
Speaker 2: needs and there's a lot of regeneration of aquifers.
36:04
Speaker 3: And there's a bit of a correction on this one.
36:07
Speaker 2: I wanted to show this because a few weeks, a
36:09
Speaker 2: few episodes back of my reports I said this was
36:13
Speaker 2: from a National Weather Modification Association website. Actually this is
36:17
Speaker 2: from the Texas licensing body that licenses cloud seating programs.
36:23
Speaker 2: The Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation, and they list
36:27
Speaker 2: just in Texas alone harvesting the skies, get the language,
36:31
Speaker 2: they harvest the skies rein enhancement operations. There's the West Texas,
36:36
Speaker 2: South Texas Panhandle, trans picos and rolling planes, weather modification
36:41
Speaker 2: associations or their groundwater conservation districts or things like that.
36:45
Speaker 2: So it's major here in Texas, and just to get
36:48
Speaker 2: an idea of the scale and timeframes on this, will
36:51
Speaker 2: continue to outline it, just as for instance, there's a
36:55
Speaker 2: National Weather Modification Association enabling persons, political entities, and other
37:01
Speaker 2: organizations to make informed decisions about the application of weather
37:05
Speaker 2: mod to provide for adequate water supplies. They're saying and
37:09
Speaker 2: reduced natural weather hazards. So they're starting to talk more
37:13
Speaker 2: about wildfires how they might mitigate against that, although it's
37:17
Speaker 2: not generally known by the public. This is a little
37:20
Speaker 2: more on the South Texas weather mod The one that's
37:22
Speaker 2: closest to me is near San Antonio. They're in their
37:25
Speaker 2: twenty fifth year. They work with the Edwards Aqua for
37:28
Speaker 2: Authority and they've expanded to about two point two million
37:33
Speaker 2: acres to nearly six million acres in their target area
37:36
Speaker 2: the second largest in Texas. So again, these are not
37:41
Speaker 2: small operations over in West Texas. It's in San Angelo.
37:45
Speaker 2: This project's in its twenty seventh year. Six point four
37:49
Speaker 2: million acres in west central Texas is their target area.
37:54
Speaker 2: And so it's not like they're just crop dusters in
37:57
Speaker 2: limited areas. And these are a couple of others. The
38:00
Speaker 2: Panhandle Groundwater Conservation District covers four point one million acres
38:05
Speaker 2: and the Trans Peicos Weather mod Association covers five point
38:09
Speaker 2: one million acres, very very large scale operations. And this
38:13
Speaker 2: is a map worth showing. This is from California, the
38:16
Speaker 2: Santa Anna Watershed Project Authority.
38:19
Speaker 3: I've got a call in to them.
38:21
Speaker 2: I'm hoping to talk to them next week, along with
38:23
Speaker 2: one Texas appointment that I do have. And on the
38:26
Speaker 2: map to the left, it shows where this is at
38:28
Speaker 2: in California where they've had some wildfire activity. And the
38:32
Speaker 2: main map to the right there is a close up
38:35
Speaker 2: and these are the member agencies that make up that
38:38
Speaker 2: watershed and the cloud seating encompasses that entire area comprised
38:43
Speaker 2: of those member agencies. Again, to give you an idea
38:46
Speaker 2: of the scale and scope of these things, and lastly,
38:49
Speaker 2: this is a very important point. Meanwhile, we've had, you know, wildfires,
38:55
Speaker 2: We've had reported water shortages, especially in California and in Australia.
39:00
Speaker 3: A few years back.
39:01
Speaker 2: The water bottlers at Nesley that bottle water and the
39:06
Speaker 2: Coca Cola bottlers that also use huge amounts of groundwater
39:10
Speaker 2: pretty much go on unabated no matter what's going on.
39:15
Speaker 2: These news clips are a little bit old, but I
39:18
Speaker 2: think the issues haven't really changed.
39:22
Speaker 3: Lawmakers.
39:23
Speaker 2: And the above headline opened the groundwater fight against bottled
39:26
Speaker 2: water companies. That's in Washington state going back a few years.
39:30
Speaker 2: And the other headline is it talks about, primarily in Michigan,
39:36
Speaker 2: why Nestley pays next to nothing for hammering the aquifers
39:39
Speaker 2: to bottle water and sell it back to us. And
39:42
Speaker 2: that's a huge issue because much of the cloud seating,
39:45
Speaker 2: at least a good part of it, is to regenerate
39:47
Speaker 2: the aquifers. But between fish farms, fish hatcheries, which are
39:51
Speaker 2: huge water users, water in, water out, not much recycling,
39:56
Speaker 2: and your water and your soft drink bottlers, the aquifer
40:00
Speaker 2: are getting hammered around the clock every day three sixty five,
40:03
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven. So if there was a little
40:06
Speaker 2: bit more regulation of those that hammer those awquifers, you
40:11
Speaker 2: might not need as much cloud seating to regenerate them.
40:14
Speaker 2: And of course cloud seating itself is a very off
40:18
Speaker 2: the shelf technology. There are many other kinds of geoengineering
40:21
Speaker 2: that are a little bit more illicit in their nature.
40:25
Speaker 2: The Noah Organization lists nine or ten of them that
40:29
Speaker 2: you'll be fined ten thousand dollars for if you engage
40:32
Speaker 2: in those other nine or ten types of geoengineering that
40:35
Speaker 2: are not cloud seating. So that's a tacit admission by
40:39
Speaker 2: the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration that there are ten
40:43
Speaker 2: or eleven different kinds of weather mod not just cloud seating.
40:48
Speaker 2: So cloud seating might be seen as the most useful
40:51
Speaker 2: if it's done right among those different techniques to mitigate
40:54
Speaker 2: against wildfires before they happen, or maybe dampen them a
40:58
Speaker 2: bit after they start, although they the conditions have to
41:01
Speaker 2: be right for cloud seating and it has to be
41:02
Speaker 2: done correctly. So it's an issue that I'm trying to
41:05
Speaker 2: get to the bottom of so realistic conversations and more
41:10
Speaker 2: general public knowledge can be realized, and then we can
41:14
Speaker 2: have a more intelligent discussion about the future of cloud
41:17
Speaker 2: seating and then the broader issue of geoengineering. So more
41:21
Speaker 2: people know about these matters. That's the key. So for now,
41:24
Speaker 2: and I have something an extra that's very humorous, humorous
41:28
Speaker 2: outtake on this issue that will show.
41:30
Speaker 3: So back to you guys.
41:31
Speaker 1: Thanks Mark. Okay, Now Patrick, let's come back then to Ukraine.
41:35
Speaker 1: And of course the deal was signed on minerals at last.
41:40
Speaker 1: What do we need to know about it?
41:41
Speaker 4: Well, there's a lot in there, a lot of specifics,
41:45
Speaker 4: a lot of vague things as well. We did put
41:48
Speaker 4: a sort of breakdown of this up at twenty first
41:50
Speaker 4: century wire dot com. Ukraine signs mineral deal with the US.
41:54
Speaker 4: What you need to know? The things that jumped out
41:57
Speaker 4: at me on this, You know, the fact that the
42:00
Speaker 4: United States has basically changed their arrangement now to an
42:04
Speaker 4: official pay to protect sort of arrangement with Ukraine. So
42:08
Speaker 4: I mean, this is not a good deal for Ukraine.
42:10
Speaker 4: They didn't when they accepted all this eight three years
42:13
Speaker 4: ago from the US and all these countries, they weren't
42:16
Speaker 4: expecting they would have to basically mortgage their whole future
42:19
Speaker 4: and all of their natural resources to pay for it
42:22
Speaker 4: when a new president came in, and this is exactly
42:24
Speaker 4: what's happened. So this can go two ways, but I'll
42:29
Speaker 4: show you some of those angles in a moment. But
42:32
Speaker 4: this is interesting here a zero hedge Dmitri Medvedev, who
42:36
Speaker 4: is very hawkish, potentially the next Russian president. I'm not
42:40
Speaker 4: sure if that'll happen, but anyway, former Russian president. He's
42:44
Speaker 4: basically saying Trump has broken the Zelensky regime through this deal.
42:49
Speaker 4: And so it means that the United States when they
42:51
Speaker 4: give aid to Ukraine, they then can get a deposit
42:54
Speaker 4: into their sort of special US fund. Basically, so Trump
42:58
Speaker 4: wants to be paid back with men and all natural resources, everything, oil, gas, lithium,
43:04
Speaker 4: everything is up for grabs. So the problem here is
43:08
Speaker 4: that the future Ukrainian government could come in another president
43:12
Speaker 4: and could say that Zelenski was out of mandate, he
43:14
Speaker 4: was illegitimate, he signed this terrible deal. Could do a Trump.
43:19
Speaker 4: The next Ukrainian government could pull a Trump. It was
43:21
Speaker 4: a terrible deal. They signed it with Trump, it was
43:23
Speaker 4: a terrible deal, and tear it up. And they would
43:26
Speaker 4: have every right to do that. Okay, And Russia also
43:29
Speaker 4: is kind of laughing because They don't see Zelenski as
43:32
Speaker 4: a legitimate head of state or an air parent or
43:35
Speaker 4: party to any meaningful negotiations. And yet Trump has signed
43:39
Speaker 4: this deal which provides supposedly protection guarantees for Ukraine and
43:44
Speaker 4: also promises reparations to Ukraine. Where are those reparations coming from?
43:48
Speaker 4: Perhaps from the frozen Russian assets that are in Euroclear
43:52
Speaker 4: three hundred and fifty billion. Trump's definitely using that as
43:55
Speaker 4: a bargaining tool with Moscow, but Moscow is not going
43:58
Speaker 4: to bite at all on that. So that's where things are.
44:01
Speaker 4: The other thing that's interesting about this is this angle here,
44:04
Speaker 4: and this is where by the way, here's Michael Tracy
44:07
Speaker 4: up on screen. He's basically saying the whole idea was
44:10
Speaker 4: that US would not become super engaged and meshed with Ukraine.
44:14
Speaker 4: But Trump has basically created a deal that makes them
44:17
Speaker 4: permanently enmeshed with Ukraine. So good point here from American journalist.
44:22
Speaker 1: So it's got permanent and meashment. We've only got one
44:25
Speaker 1: hundred years to worry about it.
44:27
Speaker 4: That's the problem. There's a little competition here, Mike, because
44:30
Speaker 4: didn't Cure Starmer just sign this to great fanfare. The
44:34
Speaker 4: one hundred year partnership with Ukraine. Well, Donald Trump's come
44:37
Speaker 4: in and gazumped the British that's what it looks like anyway.
44:40
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of stuff going on behind the
44:42
Speaker 4: scenes that we can see. There's some competition there. So
44:45
Speaker 4: Starmar got the ok from Biden to do this before
44:49
Speaker 4: Trump was inaugurated. This was the middle of January that
44:52
Speaker 4: that ball was rolling us and Trump's come in and
44:55
Speaker 4: now put his marker down on all of Ukraine basically
44:59
Speaker 4: or whatever's left. All the high performing assets Mike are
45:02
Speaker 4: in the eastern part of the country. And the other
45:05
Speaker 4: thing and the reason we had the original image you
45:07
Speaker 4: saw Blackrock on Zelenski's jumper there. That's kind of what
45:11
Speaker 4: this is. It's basically Trump making it official that they're
45:14
Speaker 4: going to basically use Ukrainian resources as collateral for future
45:18
Speaker 4: loans and financial aid to Ukraine. That's what Blackrock was doing.
45:22
Speaker 4: This is what George Soros and these huge hedge funds
45:25
Speaker 4: and private equity firms are doing, is basically collateralizing all
45:29
Speaker 4: their resources in exchange for loans and debt. Basically. So
45:33
Speaker 4: Trump's just gone and made it official, so it could
45:36
Speaker 4: end up in the hands of Blackrock quite easily and
45:39
Speaker 4: probably will in fact. But the United States somehow is
45:42
Speaker 4: going to get a skim. They're going to get a
45:44
Speaker 4: cut from it. So this is like crazy mafia tactics
45:48
Speaker 4: and Russia's just sitting back saying go ahead, carry on.
45:51
Speaker 4: This isn't advancing our peace negotiations one bit. So that's
45:55
Speaker 4: the irony of it all.
45:57
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let's come back to the UK then, and well,
46:00
Speaker 1: apparently Britain is full of fraudsters. That seems to be
46:03
Speaker 1: the position of the British government at the moment. So
46:06
Speaker 1: the Department for Work and Pensions has launched what it
46:11
Speaker 1: describes as a new soaped sorry souped up pars to
46:15
Speaker 1: recover money directly from bank accounts of fraudsters following the
46:19
Speaker 1: third reading of the Public Authorities Fraud, Error and Recovery Bill,
46:23
Speaker 1: and the claim is that the bill is designed to
46:25
Speaker 1: combat multi billion pound benefit fraud in the UK. It
46:29
Speaker 1: proposes measures that will enable the DWPD reclaim funds directly
46:33
Speaker 1: from bank accounts of those convicted of fraud. It would
46:37
Speaker 1: also allow the DWPD in bank statements for the individuals
46:40
Speaker 1: who believe to have the means to repay welfare debts
46:43
Speaker 1: but are refusing to do so. We'll talk about why
46:47
Speaker 1: people might be refusing to do so in a second.
46:48
Speaker 1: But the courts may also have the part to suspend
46:51
Speaker 1: driving license of people that are described as fraudsters upon
46:56
Speaker 1: application by the DWP if they owe more than a
46:59
Speaker 1: thousands in welfare debts and have consistently ignored repayment requests.
47:05
Speaker 1: And the Starmer regime is claiming that this bill will
47:07
Speaker 1: save the taxpayer one point five billion pounds over the
47:10
Speaker 1: next five years, and they say it's part of a
47:13
Speaker 1: wider plan to set out of the out budget and
47:17
Speaker 1: Spring statement to save nine point six billion by twenty thirty.
47:21
Speaker 1: But that doesn't seem like much of a turn because
47:22
Speaker 1: the government claims this is sorry. The government claims this
47:26
Speaker 1: in their press release. I'll quote this. The new legislation
47:29
Speaker 1: comes as the government is dealing with a broken welfare
47:32
Speaker 1: system that had inherited with out of control levels of
47:35
Speaker 1: fraud and error, costing the taxpayer around ten billion pounds
47:39
Speaker 1: a year, with a total of thirty five billion pounds
47:42
Speaker 1: of taxpayers money incorrectly paid to those not entitled to
47:45
Speaker 1: the money since the pandemic, so thirty five billion pounds,
47:49
Speaker 1: but they're going to aim to get one and a
47:51
Speaker 1: half billion back over the next five years. So there's
47:54
Speaker 1: something else going on here. This isn't This isn't well yeah, indeed,
47:59
Speaker 1: so they're taking another their massive chunk out of personal
48:02
Speaker 1: privacy in order to recover a fraction of the alleged
48:04
Speaker 1: fraud that's taking place by giving access to the DWP
48:08
Speaker 1: to people's bank accounts. I certainly questioned the fraud allegation
48:12
Speaker 1: in any case, because error arising out of an over
48:16
Speaker 1: complex system and civil servant incompetence is much more.
48:21
Speaker 4: It happens a lot where people are getting payments and
48:24
Speaker 4: then find out later and then the government says, well,
48:26
Speaker 4: we've overpaid you and you need to pay it all back.
48:28
Speaker 1: By which time you spent the money, you're on benefits already,
48:31
Speaker 1: where are you supposed to get the money to pay
48:32
Speaker 1: it back?
48:33
Speaker 4: And most these people are an overdraft or they're on
48:35
Speaker 4: a day to day hand to mouth basis. So the
48:39
Speaker 4: idea that you suspending their driving license, what if they
48:42
Speaker 4: drive a van or what if they need to drive
48:44
Speaker 4: to go to work. They're not going to be able
48:45
Speaker 4: to repay their debt right quickly. Mike on this one.
48:49
Speaker 4: The CBDC, one of the features of the Central Bank
48:52
Speaker 4: digital currency is called the clawback. Right, Okay, what this
48:55
Speaker 4: looks like it is is potentially a trojan horse to
48:58
Speaker 4: provide the legislation of legitimacy for a practice in the
49:02
Speaker 4: future with CBDCs that will be hugely controversial.
49:05
Speaker 1: Well, it does that, but it just normalizes the thing
49:08
Speaker 1: in people's minds as well. But look, in the meantime,
49:11
Speaker 1: another big chunk of interference in personal liberty comes with
49:14
Speaker 1: the announcement by Ritual Reeves that cryptocurrencies will be regulated
49:17
Speaker 1: in the UK. And this is in order, they say,
49:19
Speaker 1: to support innovation while cracking down on fraudsters rights. This
49:26
Speaker 1: is what they're saying. Firms offering services for crypto assets
49:29
Speaker 1: like bitcoin and ethereum will be subject to new clear rules,
49:33
Speaker 1: boosting investor confidence and driving growth through the plan for change.
49:37
Speaker 1: That should make us all feel very comfortable. So let's
49:39
Speaker 1: have a listen briefly to what she had to say
49:41
Speaker 1: at a fintech conference a couple of days ago.
49:45
Speaker 6: That's why I'm delighted that we are today publishing draft
49:48
Speaker 6: legislation for the UK's comprehensive regulatory regime for crypto assets,
49:54
Speaker 6: engaging with all of you to ensure that the final
49:57
Speaker 6: legislation planned for later this year delivers for government and
50:02
Speaker 6: most importantly for the industry and makes the UK a
50:07
Speaker 6: great place for digital asset companies to invest and innovate
50:12
Speaker 6: for the UK.
50:14
Speaker 1: Now, she went on to talk about the fact that
50:16
Speaker 1: the regulator needs to enable this and this is very
50:19
Speaker 1: much the model of the regulatory model it's rolling out
50:21
Speaker 1: in the UK at the moment. MHR does this as well.
50:24
Speaker 1: Offcom's doing this too. You create regulations which enable the
50:29
Speaker 1: corporates to continue to behave very well. In the meantime,
50:32
Speaker 1: it absolutely restricts the activities of individuals. So look, this
50:37
Speaker 1: is about tax, It's about making sure that no one
50:39
Speaker 1: can make a capital gain on a crypto asset without
50:41
Speaker 1: HMRC knowing about it. Because what is the government actually
50:45
Speaker 1: doing about real fraud in the UK. Absolutely nothing. And
50:49
Speaker 1: just to give one example, the UK is currently has
50:52
Speaker 1: currently the highest telephone fraud levels in Europe, with forty
50:55
Speaker 1: five million people targeted by scam calls and texts. Hundreds
51:00
Speaker 1: of millions of pounds stolen from vulnerable people each year.
51:04
Speaker 1: So called phishing scams, technical supports scams, investment scams, refund scams,
51:08
Speaker 1: lottery and price scams. This is big business and UK
51:11
Speaker 1: gov and offcomer doing nothing about it. And in fact,
51:15
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three Ceefasts, a fraud prevention NGO, ran
51:19
Speaker 1: a survey which indicated at seven point five billion pounds
51:23
Speaker 1: is stolen globally and that one in ten Britain's fall
51:27
Speaker 1: victim to these scams in any particular twelve month period.
51:32
Speaker 1: This is something that the UK government does nothing about.
51:34
Speaker 1: In the meantime, they're busy increasing regulation in certain areas
51:39
Speaker 1: while ignoring the bulk of the fraud that takes place
51:42
Speaker 1: in this country.
51:44
Speaker 4: Not to mention the money that's being shipped to Ukraine,
51:46
Speaker 4: but we will we won't talk about that because that's
51:48
Speaker 4: just a drop in the bucket, isn't it precisely?
51:51
Speaker 1: Mark back to you then, and what's the World Council
51:54
Speaker 1: for Health been up to?
51:58
Speaker 2: This is of course a follow up to the plug
52:00
Speaker 2: and advanced notice that UK column gave on this, and
52:04
Speaker 2: the World Council for Health of course has a very
52:07
Speaker 2: aggressive outlook to generate more opposition to the pandemic treaty
52:12
Speaker 2: and they gave a program the twenty eighth of April
52:15
Speaker 2: that I watched in real time. WHO said Yes, it
52:18
Speaker 2: was called the Pandemic Treaty without Public Consent. James Ruguski
52:22
Speaker 2: one of the eight presenters. So it was quite an
52:26
Speaker 2: interesting program, and we'll move through this fairly briskly. There
52:30
Speaker 2: was also the Pan American Health Organization alongside the WHO,
52:36
Speaker 2: and this was shown. This is a screenshot from that
52:38
Speaker 2: World Council for Health presentation guide for WHO collaborating centers.
52:43
Speaker 2: This is a very big issue when it comes to sovereignty,
52:46
Speaker 2: because a lot of people have said, well, the Pandemic
52:48
Speaker 2: Treaty will under my national sovereignty and so on and
52:52
Speaker 2: so forth. And the US technically back down of the WHO.
52:56
Speaker 2: But here's the rub. These collaborating centers could completely qui
53:00
Speaker 2: the fact that the US backed out of the WHO.
53:03
Speaker 2: And we'll show this listing here to get an idea
53:05
Speaker 2: of the numbers the World Council for Health. Another screenshot
53:09
Speaker 2: from the program listed some of the collaborating centers by number.
53:13
Speaker 2: The US has about seventy two of them, China sixty,
53:16
Speaker 2: India fifty nine, the UK fifty of them, Australia forty three,
53:20
Speaker 2: Japan thirty three and Canada twenty six.
53:23
Speaker 3: What are collaborating centers?
53:25
Speaker 2: There any university or government outlet In the US, the CDC,
53:31
Speaker 2: the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is a collaborating center.
53:35
Speaker 2: So health institutions, universities, organizations, and agencies like the CDC
53:42
Speaker 2: are among these collaborating centers. Now, the WHO guide for
53:45
Speaker 2: those collaborating centers lists some very interesting things, as we'll
53:48
Speaker 2: show here. The entities collaborating with WHO are obliged to
53:53
Speaker 2: follow a WHO determined authorized work plan. Another one the
53:58
Speaker 2: product including intellectual property. The products involved belong to the WHO.
54:03
Speaker 2: According to the presentation, there's a non compete clause that
54:07
Speaker 2: must be signed and no option to withdraw even though
54:10
Speaker 2: it's time limited in years. And this is from a
54:13
Speaker 2: doctor Janine or Gene Rungby from the Danish Health Authority
54:19
Speaker 2: asking the question do the Danish Health Authority? Does that
54:22
Speaker 2: authority obey orders from the WHO or shouldn't they? And
54:26
Speaker 2: the last bullet point on this four point thing is
54:29
Speaker 2: all legal responsibility rests with the institution that's the collaborating center,
54:34
Speaker 2: not the WHO, including any injuries to human test subjects.
54:39
Speaker 2: Get that very interesting now, Doctor Tess Laurie was another
54:44
Speaker 2: one of the listed participants, and she had a action
54:49
Speaker 2: item or research item that sounds very helpful. What are
54:53
Speaker 2: WHO collaborating centers doing in your country, Modeling new pandemics,
54:58
Speaker 2: experimenting with pathogens, heloping bioweapons as vaccine, she says, gathering
55:03
Speaker 2: data and surveilling you. Isn't it time to find out
55:06
Speaker 2: what Who's doing in your neighborhood, what the WHO is
55:10
Speaker 2: doing in your neighborhood? And what she recommends is search
55:14
Speaker 2: the WHO collaborating Center's directory. We can provide that website
55:19
Speaker 2: link on the show notes, and that collaborating Center's directory
55:23
Speaker 2: from the WHO is a comprehensive list of all the
55:26
Speaker 2: WHO collaborating centers and it's publicly accessible, so anybody in
55:31
Speaker 2: the UK, the US, all around the world can go
55:33
Speaker 2: to that directory and find out what government agencies and
55:38
Speaker 2: universities and private institutions are part of these collaborating centers
55:42
Speaker 2: in concert with the WHO.
55:44
Speaker 3: It's something anyone can look up.
55:46
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Roguski, for his part, presented the repeal the prep Act.
55:53
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and show that nice big bold. Let
55:55
Speaker 2: us there repeal the prep Act, and that of course
55:58
Speaker 2: is an act on the books that revised legal immunity
56:01
Speaker 2: from lawsuits and liability to those who manufactured, distributed and
56:06
Speaker 2: administered remdesvere and the COVID nineteen so called vaccines. And
56:10
Speaker 2: Rouguski is advocating the prep Act must be repealed, and
56:15
Speaker 2: the other participants, of course at the program echoed that.
56:19
Speaker 2: And this is an interesting wording, you might say from
56:23
Speaker 2: the repeal the prep AAC promo online at Roguski's substack
56:28
Speaker 2: substack blog. Make murder a crime again. Get that, make
56:32
Speaker 2: murder a crime again. Put the prep Act in the trash.
56:36
Speaker 2: Repeal theprepact dot com. That's the website through which anyone
56:40
Speaker 2: can get involved. And this last item signed the petition.
56:44
Speaker 2: I believe this is the last item, also from Ruguski
56:48
Speaker 2: and others commented on it.
56:49
Speaker 3: If you live in the US.
56:50
Speaker 2: Complete the form below to add your name to a
56:53
Speaker 2: letter to Congress demanding the repeal of the prep AAC.
56:56
Speaker 2: Your name will be listed, but no personal information will
56:59
Speaker 2: will be there. If you have any questions, there's an
57:02
Speaker 2: email there James dot Roguski at gmail dot com, or
57:06
Speaker 2: you can text or call him. It's best to text first,
57:09
Speaker 2: and he doesn't mind giving off this number of course
57:11
Speaker 2: three one zero six, one nine, three zero five to
57:14
Speaker 2: five in Los Angeles, California, and there's websites there we'll
57:18
Speaker 2: put in the show notes where you can get involved
57:21
Speaker 2: if you're in the US, or you can get involved
57:23
Speaker 2: with this petition even if you don't live in the US.
57:26
Speaker 2: So there was a lot of emphasis guys on taking
57:28
Speaker 2: action before the World Health Assembly convenes to try and
57:33
Speaker 2: finalize the treaty May nineteen through twenty seven in Geneva.
57:37
Speaker 2: So some very important matters discussed. There are some very
57:39
Speaker 2: urgent matters. So that's our follow up for now. Okay,
57:43
Speaker 2: thank you, Mark, thank you Patrick.
57:45
Speaker 1: Let's come back to you then, and we're going to
57:47
Speaker 1: finish with something that Alex Jones is putting on.
57:50
Speaker 4: Well. Yeah, this is a story that was put out
57:53
Speaker 4: a few days ago. I first saw it on Tommy
57:55
Speaker 4: Robinson's Twitter account on April twenty seventh, and the story
57:59
Speaker 4: was here, we'll putting this up on screen. So Alex
58:02
Speaker 4: Jones had posted this and basically we'll let this roll that.
58:06
Speaker 4: Those are the community notes, by the way, of which
58:09
Speaker 4: there are massive community notes correcting this. The claim by
58:12
Speaker 4: Alex Jones and others like Tommy Robinson, but Alex was specific.
58:16
Speaker 4: He said that Pakistani immigrants burned down a Christian church
58:20
Speaker 4: in Wales. Okay, big accusation, so you expect there'll be
58:24
Speaker 4: some receipts for that. And he's saying this a church
58:27
Speaker 4: in Wales was set fire by two Pakistani quote invaders. Okay.
58:32
Speaker 4: Now when you actually look at the media reporting on this,
58:35
Speaker 4: we find out that this was an abandoned church and
58:38
Speaker 4: that the arsonists who are being held or arrested by
58:42
Speaker 4: the police are two you know, native white Welsh youths, okay, teenagers,
58:47
Speaker 4: not Pakistani. So what this is I can't imagine with
58:52
Speaker 4: no basis whatsoever that you would do something. It got
58:56
Speaker 4: two million, around two million views, Robinson's got one point
59:00
Speaker 4: something million, and various and sundry other kind of I
59:04
Speaker 4: don't know what to call them, these types of accounts
59:05
Speaker 4: on x and other media social media platforms got millions
59:10
Speaker 4: of views on the aggregate. This story went viral, Mike,
59:13
Speaker 4: This story went viral, and it's I really have to
59:16
Speaker 4: say this is incitement, really because there's no journalistic merit
59:20
Speaker 4: to any of this. It's just a made up story
59:23
Speaker 4: that has an evocative anti immigrant and clash of civilizations
59:27
Speaker 4: narrative Christian versus Muslim. Clearly that's the intention of this.
59:32
Speaker 4: Now this morning, after being up three days, we looked
59:36
Speaker 4: at Alex's account this morning and this tweet that we have.
59:39
Speaker 4: Will bring this back up on screen is it's off,
59:43
Speaker 4: it's been deleted. Okay. Now I contacted info Wars or
59:47
Speaker 4: representative there and just pointed this out. You guys can't
59:50
Speaker 4: run this, It's not true. Look at the community notes
59:52
Speaker 4: under your own tweet. Nobody was either checking it or
59:55
Speaker 4: they didn't want to take it down. Eventually they have
59:59
Speaker 4: so to their credit, they took it down, but Tommy
1:00:03
Speaker 4: Robinson still running with this story, as are all of
1:00:05
Speaker 4: his acolytes. Now I didn't check Elon Musk's account, but
1:00:08
Speaker 4: this is the type of thing that Elon Musk and
1:00:10
Speaker 4: Peter Sweden would tweet as well. Whether it's true or not.
1:00:14
Speaker 4: They really couldn't care less. But we'll just bring just
1:00:17
Speaker 4: so people can read this. Clearly, bring this up on screen.
1:00:20
Speaker 4: Breaking news. A church in Wales was set fire by
1:00:23
Speaker 4: two Pakistani invaders. Christianity is under a massive attack in
1:00:28
Speaker 4: the UK. If you complain to the thought police, they'll
1:00:31
Speaker 4: arrest you. This is just insane that somebody from the
1:00:35
Speaker 4: United States has made this go viral to a British
1:00:40
Speaker 4: audience as well as a European audience. In the US audience,
1:00:43
Speaker 4: I personally find this to be very disturbing because it's
1:00:48
Speaker 4: totally fake. That's the problem with it. And I know
1:00:51
Speaker 4: in the alternative media community people don't like criticizing certain
1:00:56
Speaker 4: people because they see them as true heroes. You have
1:01:00
Speaker 4: to call this out because when you have people there
1:01:03
Speaker 4: is actual violence taking place on streets in this country
1:01:07
Speaker 4: and other countries. And if we're putting out a fake
1:01:10
Speaker 4: story that has no basis in reality, that ends up
1:01:12
Speaker 4: in a violent clash based on religious differences or something
1:01:16
Speaker 4: like that, then whoever's putting that story out is partially
1:01:19
Speaker 4: responsible for that. It has a real world implications, not
1:01:24
Speaker 4: just the person putting the story out, everybody that.
1:01:26
Speaker 1: Shared the thing. And the thing about this is, aside
1:01:29
Speaker 1: from the point about the violence is absolutely and the
1:01:32
Speaker 1: class civilization is absolutely important. The other point about this
1:01:38
Speaker 1: is every time we share something which is fig, we
1:01:42
Speaker 1: are we are giving justification to offcom to the censorship regime,
1:01:50
Speaker 1: to the censorship industrial complex, the fact checkers, all the
1:01:54
Speaker 1: people that are censoring organizations like us. We're giving them
1:01:58
Speaker 1: justification for what they're doing. This has to stop.
1:02:01
Speaker 4: Yeah. So my opinion it is that you just made
1:02:04
Speaker 4: the most important point of this that these whale accounts
1:02:08
Speaker 4: that have millions of followers, they have a lot of power. Okay,
1:02:11
Speaker 4: but when they put fake stories that is religious or
1:02:14
Speaker 4: racial incitement stories, and Elon Musk himself does this, okay,
1:02:18
Speaker 4: then the result is that it gives it's low hanging
1:02:23
Speaker 4: fruit for the establishment, the factious governments that we're trying
1:02:27
Speaker 4: to keep at bay with censorship. It gives them such
1:02:30
Speaker 4: an easy entree to want to regulate these platforms. So
1:02:34
Speaker 4: it's very irresponsible for any content creator or alternative media
1:02:37
Speaker 4: outlet to put out patent lies like this that have
1:02:43
Speaker 4: huge implications, and it's just like throwing red meat to
1:02:46
Speaker 4: the establishment on this. I cannot stress how bad this
1:02:50
Speaker 4: type of behavior is. And people, I know you a
1:02:53
Speaker 4: lot of people, because if it fits your emotional state
1:02:57
Speaker 4: when you see something like this, you want to retweet
1:02:59
Speaker 4: and share. Everyone's done it in their life, Okay, but
1:03:03
Speaker 4: try to think is that you know in check if
1:03:06
Speaker 4: is there any basis to this? Look at the community
1:03:08
Speaker 4: notes on x under Alex's tweet. They are community notes
1:03:11
Speaker 4: panning him. It's fake. No, here's the real story from
1:03:14
Speaker 4: the Welsh local news. Nobody's listening or looking at any
1:03:17
Speaker 4: of that. They're just retweeting and sharing it and then
1:03:19
Speaker 4: getting angry in the comment saying we need to stop
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Speaker 4: these Muslims from coming in, these invaders coming in our country.
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Speaker 4: You know, this is kind of the Tommy Robinson narrative.
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Speaker 4: He said that church has stood since ten thirty three
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Speaker 4: or every saying like this was some sort of reverse crusade.
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Speaker 4: But the story itself is fake and people will say, well, Pat,
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Speaker 4: are you saying there's not an immigration problem. I'm not
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Speaker 4: saying that. I'm talking about this specific story. It's incumbent
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Speaker 4: on media, journalist outlets, independent media, mainstream media. You criticize
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Speaker 4: the mainstream media all day long. Oh, the BBC's lying.
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Speaker 4: What happens when the alternative independent media lies? And what
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Speaker 4: happens if that ends up becoming some of a violent
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Speaker 4: incident somewhere down the butterfly effect chain. Listen, you gotta
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Speaker 4: have some accountability for stuff like that. That's all we're saying.
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Speaker 4: You know, everyone should try a little bit harder and
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Speaker 4: think a little bit more before they you know, share
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Speaker 4: certain things and then you know, contact these media outlets directly.
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Speaker 4: That's what we that's what we normally do and sometimes
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Speaker 4: we get results and we not with the mainstream normally,
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Speaker 4: but sometimes we do so.
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Speaker 1: Well, yes, okay, look we got to leave it there
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Speaker 1: for today. We're a little bit over time. Thank you Patrick,
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Speaker 1: thank you Mark. We will be back in a few minutes,
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Speaker 1: Did join us for that. Otherwise, have a great weekend.
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