Latest / Investor Exchange / Wilton Resources: Condensed Interim Financial Statements 2HFY24
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- 0:02Time for another Investor Exchange podcast. Here are your hosts, Matt and Sally.
- 0:08Welcome, welcome to the Deep Dive. Today, we're digging into the latest financials
- 0:11from Wilton Resources Corporation Limited, WRC.
- 0:15They're listed over in Singapore, but their main business, gold mining,
- 0:18is happening in Indonesia.
- 0:20So we've got the numbers here, unaudited, mind you, for the six months and the
- 0:24full year ending December 31st, 2024.
- 0:27And our mission really is to cut through all that accounting speak.
- 0:30We want to understand what's really going on, you know, how they performed,
- 0:33what's the story behind those numbers, and maybe get a sense of what the future
- 0:37holds for them. Absolutely.
- 0:38And what's really captivating here when you look at these documents is the picture they paint.
- 0:43It's a company clearly facing, well, significant challenges,
- 0:46but you also see them outlining their strategies, their potential ways forward.
- 0:50It's fascinating how you can see both the struggles and the strategic thinking
- 0:54just laid out in the data.
- 0:55Okay, let's dive right in then. Thinking about the full year 2024 versus 2023,
- 1:00what are the sort of big headlines, the main takeaways from the profit and loss?
- 1:04Well, the big picture, it's definitely challenging. First off,
- 1:08revenue. It saw a really sharp decline.
- 1:10For the full year 2024, it was about 1.34 billion rupiah.
- 1:14That's down a huge 66.4% from almost 4 billion rupiah the year before.
- 1:19And even if you just look at the second
- 1:20half of 2024, that was down 41.2% compared to the second half of 23.
- 1:25So yeah, a consistent downward trend there. Wow.
- 1:2866%. That's not just a dip. That's significant. It is. And it's not just an
- 1:32abstract number. This directly reflects their physical sales.
- 1:35WRC only sold 1.1 kilograms of gold door in the entire fiscal year 2024.
- 1:41Compare that to 4.2 kilograms in 2023. It's a massive drop in actual output sold.
- 1:48Okay, so far less gold actually going out the door. Exactly.
- 1:50And that hits the bottom line, naturally. The net loss after tax for FY 2024,
- 1:54well, it worsened considerably.
- 1:56It increased to nearly 128 billion rupiah. That's up from a loss of about 53
- 2:00billion rupiah in FY 2023. So more than double the loss.
- 2:04Yeah. And that translates directly to earnings per share, or rather loss per share.
- 2:08It went to negative 0.41 Singapore cents for FY 2024 compared to negative 0.13
- 2:15Singapore cents in FY 2023.
- 2:18Okay, so that's quite a dive. Revenue way down, losses way up.
- 2:22Logically, you'd think gross profit must have just tanked too, right?
- 2:25Yeah. Looking here, it actually went up. Yeah. How does that work?
- 2:28That feels counterintuitive. It does seem odd, doesn't it? And that really raises the key question.
- 2:32How can your gross profit increase when your revenue has fallen off a cliff like that?
- 2:36Well, the gross profit did nudge up, yeah, by about 13.5%, from 431 million
- 2:41rupiah to 489 million rupiah.
- 2:43But the key, the absolute key, is the cost of sales. That decreased even more steeply than revenue.
- 2:48It dropped by a massive 76.1%, from nearly 3.6 billion rupiah down to just 852 million rupiah.
- 2:56So what this suggests is either incredibly low production levels,
- 2:59or maybe they managed some really significant cost cutting, specifically tied
- 3:02to the small amount they did sell.
- 3:04Right. So the cost to produce that tiny amount of gold they sold was even tinier,
- 3:08relatively speaking, making the profit margin on what they sold look better,
- 3:12even though overall sales were terrible.
- 3:14Precisely. It masks the underlying volume problem in a way.
- 3:18Okay, this is where it gets really interesting for me. We see the what.
- 3:21Now let's get into the why.
- 3:23Why the massive revenue drop, even if the per unit economics maybe looked okay?
- 3:28And what pushed that already significant loss into, well, such a deeper hole?
- 3:33Well, the why for the revenue drop links directly back to what we just talked
- 3:37about, that operational downturn, the sales volume plummeting from 4.2 kilos to 1.1 kilos.
- 3:43That clearly points to major issues in actually getting the gold out and processed.
- 3:47Right. Production problem. Exactly.
- 3:49Now, here's a bit of a paradox. While their volume tanked, the price they got
- 3:53for the gold door they did sell actually went up.
- 3:55The average selling price increased from about $1963 US dollars an ounce in
- 4:01FY23 to $2230 US dollars an ounce in FY24.
- 4:05So the market price for gold was actually helping them, or it could have helped them.
- 4:09It could have, yes. If they'd been able to produce and sell more,
- 4:12those higher prices would have been a real boon.
- 4:14But the lack of volume basically wiped out that advantage. Okay,
- 4:18so production issues are key.
- 4:20What else contributed to that much bigger net loss? A huge factor,
- 4:24absolutely huge, was the change in other income. It dropped by over 92%.
- 4:29What was in there? Well, in FY 2023, they had a very large one-off game,
- 4:34about 159 billion rupiah.
- 4:37This came from modifying the terms of a project financing liability.
- 4:41That gain wasn't repeated in FY 2024. It was a one-time event.
- 4:46So without that large injection of non-operational income, the underlying loss
- 4:50from their core activities became much more visible, much starker.
- 4:54Ah, I see. So it's like they had a windfall last year that propped up the numbers,
- 4:57and this year that safety net was gone, revealing the real operational struggles.
- 5:02That's a good way to put it. That one-off item really skewed the comparison
- 5:05between the two years. Okay. What else was hitting them?
- 5:08Another significant hit came under other expenses. These absolutely soared from
- 5:12about 1.3 billion rupiah to 28.6 billion rupiah. Wow. What drove that?
- 5:18Primarily, foreign exchange losses. The Indonesian rupiah weakened quite a bit
- 5:23against both the U.S. dollar and the Singapore dollar during that period.
- 5:26So even if it's partly a paper loss due to currency movements,
- 5:30it's a real hit to the reported bottom line in rupiah terms.
- 5:34Right. Unavoidable external factor there.
- 5:36Any bright spots? There was one actually related to finance costs.
- 5:40They decreased significantly by about 77.2%. And this links back to that same
- 5:45project financing liability we mentioned earlier.
- 5:48Because of the modification they did in FY 2023, the interest expense recognized
- 5:53for that specific liability dropped by about 107 billion rupiah.
- 5:57Okay, so the move that gave them the one-off gain in 23 also helped reduce their
- 6:01ongoing interest costs in 24.
- 6:03Exactly. A direct consequence. Although that saving was partially offset by
- 6:06some higher interest on bank overdrafts, but the net effect was a big reduction in finance costs.
- 6:12And general admin costs, did they manage to keep those down?
- 6:15Not really, no. General and administrative expenses actually went up by about
- 6:1913.9%, mainly due to higher professional fees, about 7.3 billion rupiah more,
- 6:26and also increased staff remuneration,
- 6:29around 2.6 billion.
- 6:31So some fixed costs are still creeping up even while the main operation struggles. Seems that way.
- 6:37Yeah, some underlying cost pressures there. Okay, so if I'm piecing this together...
- 6:42The story isn't simple. It's a combination, isn't it? Lower production hitting
- 6:46revenue hard, then the lack of that big one-off gain from last year making the
- 6:50loss look much worse, plus those currency headwinds piling on.
- 6:53Even though they did manage to cut finance costs related to that big liability.
- 6:57It paints a much clearer picture now.
- 6:59That's a really good summary. It was a confluence of factors, definitely.
- 7:03Internal operational issues met unfortunate timing with disappearing one-off
- 7:07gains and external pressures like Forex. All right.
- 7:10We've looked at the flow, the profit and loss. Let's turn to the balance sheet.
- 7:13What does their financial position look like? What changed there?
- 7:16And what does it tell us about their overall health, their stability?
- 7:19Okay, the balance sheet.
- 7:20If we look at the big totals first, total assets actually increased slightly,
- 7:25ending up around 707 billion rupiah.
- 7:28But, and this is a big but, total liabilities increased much,
- 7:31much more dramatically.
- 7:32They went from about 480 billion rupiah at the end of FY 2023 to 627 billion
- 7:39rupiah at the end of FY 2024.
- 7:41So assets up a little, liabilities up a lot. That doesn't sound great for the
- 7:45equity position. It isn't.
- 7:46And if we connect this to the bigger picture, probably the most critical point
- 7:50on the balance sheet is the change in their current liabilities versus their current assets.
- 7:55Their net current liabilities, meaning short-term debts, exceeding short-term
- 7:59assets, the deficit just ballooned. How much are we talking?
- 8:02It went from a deficit of about 112 billion rupiah in FY 2023 to a massive 548
- 8:08billion rupiah deficit in FY 2024. Whoa.
- 8:12548 billion rupiah short on the near-term obligations.
- 8:16That sounds like a serious liquidity issue. What caused such a huge jump?
- 8:19The single biggest driver by far was the reclassification of that project financing
- 8:24liability we keep mentioning. The one they modified.
- 8:26That's the one. An amount totaling about 334.6 billion rupiah related to that
- 8:32liability was $1.5 billion.
- 8:33Was shifted from being a non-current long-term debt to being a current liability.
- 8:38Meaning it's due soon. Exactly. It means that very large amount is now due for
- 8:42repayment within the next 12 months specifically.
- 8:45The documents state by February 2025.
- 8:48Okay, that is a huge shift. Suddenly having a massive debt payment looming just around the corner.
- 8:53It is. And the liability itself also grew a bit due to interest building up,
- 8:58the accretion, and also those unrealized foreign exchange differences we talked about earlier.
- 9:02Makes sense. What about their actual cash? Did they manage to hold on to much?
- 9:06Their cash position weakened.
- 9:08Cash and cash equivalents decreased by about 1.5 billion rupiah over the year,
- 9:13ending FY 2024 at just 2.9 billion rupiah. Very, very lean.
- 9:19Extremely lean, especially given the scale of the liabilities we're seeing.
- 9:22And all of this, the losses the liability shifts hammered their net asset value.
- 9:26NAV attributable to the owners dropped significantly from 194 billion rupiah
- 9:31down to just over 80 billion rupiah. And per share.
- 9:34Per share, that's a drop from 0.63 Singapore cents down to 0.26 Singapore cents.
- 9:40So the book value of the company for shareholders took a big hit.
- 9:43So the reclassification of the big debt to current liabilities is really the
- 9:47headline here, isn't it?
- 9:48It signals a potential liquidity crunch, like you said, a huge payment coming
- 9:52due very soon with not much cash on hand. That's definitely the major red flag
- 9:56waving on the balance sheet, yes.
- 9:57Given all these financial challenges, I mean, the operational shutdown we discussed,
- 10:01these huge current liabilities piling up, how are they even thinking about the
- 10:05future? What's the outlook?
- 10:07Is going concern even on the table? Well, the outlook is heavily,
- 10:10heavily clouded by that primary operational issue, the SEMA's Gold Projects
- 10:14Processing Facility. As the
- 10:16report states, it's been completely inoperable since early December 2024.
- 10:21This was due to extreme weather linked to La Nina. The heavy rains and floods.
- 10:26Exactly. Heavy rainfall causing flash floods, landslides. It knocked out power,
- 10:33damaged roads and bridges.
- 10:35Critically, operations haven't restarted. They still don't have enough electricity
- 10:39supply for full operations.
- 10:40And maybe even more importantly, access to the actual mine site is severely restricted.
- 10:46They can't get essential supplies in like fuel. So the core business is effectively offline.
- 10:51Pretty much at a standstill based on this report. And that's the backdrop for
- 10:54the going concern discussion.
- 10:56So how did the directors justify believing the company can continue?
- 11:00Despite, you know, the production halt and that massive working capital deficit,
- 11:04the directors state in the report that they do believe the group can continue as a going concern.
- 11:08They list several reasons for this belief.
- 11:11First, they're prioritizing evaluating strategic options, working with professional firms on that.
- 11:16Second, they're focused on minimizing operational spending, which includes keeping
- 11:20a lean workforce, basically, hunkering down on costs.
- 11:24Okay, cutting costs makes sense. What else? They mentioned they're relying on
- 11:27a working capital loan facility.
- 11:28It's denominated in rupiah IDR $36 billion over 24 months.
- 11:33They can draw down $1.5 billion per month. As of the report date,
- 11:37they said there was still about $12 billion rupiah available to draw from that
- 11:41facility. So some short-term funding lifeline there. A limited one, yes.
- 11:45They also mentioned negotiating better credit terms with key suppliers,
- 11:49trying to stretch payments, presumably.
- 11:51And, crucially, regarding that big project financing liability, the U.S.
- 11:55$21 million won due in Feb 2025, they state they are in amicable discussions
- 12:01with the lender, Carl Hoffman Mineral Peat LTD.
- 12:04And importantly, they note that as of the report date, they hadn't received
- 12:07any demand for immediate repayment. So they're talking, and the lender hasn't
- 12:11called in the debt yet. That's something.
- 12:13It is. However, we absolutely have to mention the auditor's opinion from the
- 12:16previous year, FY2023. What was that?
- 12:18The independent auditor issued a disclaimer of opinion.
- 12:22That's very serious in the auditing world. It means the auditor felt they couldn't
- 12:26gather enough evidence to form an actual opinion on the financial statements.
- 12:30They specifically cited uncertainties about the appropriateness of the going
- 12:34concern assumption and also about impairment assessments of assets.
- 12:38So the auditor basically threw up their hands and said.
- 12:42We can't be sure about any of this. That's a blunt way to put it,
- 12:45but yes, it signals major uncertainties.
- 12:47The board confirms they've disclosed these issues adequately,
- 12:50but that disclaimer from FY23 hangs heavy over the current situation.
- 12:55Definitely adds another layer of risk.
- 12:57It does. But then you have this powerful external factor, almost like a potential
- 13:01lifeline if they can just survive long enough to grab it. Gold prices.
- 13:05If we connect everything back to the bigger picture, despite all these internal
- 13:10crises, the price of gold itself has been soaring.
- 13:13The report notes an approximate 23% increase from around 2,075 U.S.
- 13:18Dollars an ounce in January 2024 up to over 3,300 U.S. dollars by early July 2025.
- 13:25And it even mentions projections for gold futures potentially exceeding 3,850 U.S.
- 13:31Dollars an ounce within the next four years or so. Wow. So the very thing they
- 13:34mine is becoming much more valuable.
- 13:36Exactly. It provides a huge incentive, a potential massive tailwind,
- 13:40If, and it's a big if, they can sort out the operational mess,
- 13:43get the mine running again, and navigate that looming debt repayment.
- 13:47It's like having a winning lottery ticket locked in a safe you can't currently
- 13:50open because the house is flooded.
- 13:51That's not a bad analogy, actually. The potential value is there,
- 13:54maybe higher than ever, but accessing it is blocked by immediate severe problems.
- 13:58So I'll try and sum this up for everyone listening. What does it all mean for Wilton Resources?
- 14:02It sounds like they are truly up against it. You've got major financial headwinds,
- 14:07that huge debt coming due, the core operations shut down by a natural disaster.
- 14:12It looks pretty bleak in the short term, yet they seem to have some strategies.
- 14:16They're talking to their lender. They have that small credit line.
- 14:18And the potential payoff from rising gold prices is enormous if they can pull
- 14:22through. It feels like a real high-stakes situation.
- 14:24It really is. And this whole situation, I think, raises a fascinating,
- 14:28broader question, doesn't it?
- 14:30When you have a company facing these kinds of severe operational crises,
- 14:35a mine shutdown, massive short-term debt, but they also possess a valuable underlying
- 14:40asset like a gold mine, especially when the commodity price is booming.
- 14:45How do you even begin to balance that? How do they balance the desperate need
- 14:49for immediate survival, you know, just keeping the lights on and dealing with
- 14:52that debt against the potential long-term value if they can ride it out?
- 14:56What stands out to you thinking about all this as the single biggest challenge
- 15:01or maybe the biggest glimmer of opportunity for Wilton Resources in the months ahead?
- 15:05That's the question, isn't it? Survival versus potential. We'll have to leave
- 15:09you, our listeners, to ponder that one. Thank you for joining us on this deep
- 15:12dive into Wilton Resources.
- 15:13As always, we encourage you to continue your own exploration of these complex company stories.