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Midsommar: Revisited · The Art of Costume Podcast

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Hello and welcome to the Art of Costume podcast.
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I'm Liz with Joy Glass. And I am Spencer Williams, and
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thank you for joining us for one of our very first rewind
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episodes. Yeah, I don't.
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Have we done one before? Not on purpose.
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No, no. But this week we're going to
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revisit one of our favorite season 2 episodes just to get us
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in the mood for spring. And we needed a little bit of
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time before we come back from spring break.
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We're. Still in the spring break mode.
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I mean, we're outside reading books and drinking tea and
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you're. Falling asleep on your patio?
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Yeah, Elizabeth has walked by and caught me sleeping with a
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Lord of the Rings book on my chest.
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So I didn't have a book. So that's.
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That's very true. So we wanted to while we're
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still getting ready for the next part of our season, we want to
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give you all one of our favorite episodes, which it was done so
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long ago, so we're assuming many of you haven't heard it.
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We are, of course, talking about Ari Astor's terrifying but
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beautiful film Midsummer. You forced me to watch this for
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the podcast and I was so happy and so mad at you.
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Yeah. I remember when you were
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watching it and like, I wanted to text you so bad.
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Being like, she's probably having a bad time, but the best
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time? Yeah, literally, literally.
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It was so fun. Yeah.
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It's been one of our top episodes, but it's been three
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years almost since we released it.
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So yeah, this was 2, I think, August 2022.
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Wow. So we figured it was time for
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just a little rewind, a little revisit for you all.
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So listen to this episode and also it will be on YouTube with
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images for the first time. We didn't have that last time.
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You're going to probably be like, wow, they sound so young
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and their mics sound so different.
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Yeah, we've evolved. So it's kind of the fun of these
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rewind. Episodes, so we hope.
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You enjoy? After the episode.
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Make sure you come back and we're going to play our favorite
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game. Well, I guess it's not a game.
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We're going to give it a Stitch rating.
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We're going to give it a stitch rating.
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Stitch ratings didn't exist when we released this episode.
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It didn't exist and this might have been the first season we
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starred doing one costume to rule them all.
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I think so. We didn't do the first season.
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We definitely did it for Midsummer though, so you can
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hear our thoughts on our one costume to rule them all and
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then our new Stitch rating all. Right, see you after.
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Now back to the show. Hello and welcome to the Art of
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Costume Black Cast. I'm with Joy Glass.
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And I'm the making Spencer Williams.
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Spencer We should have had flower crowns for this episode
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I. Know what were we thinking?
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I don't know, I don't know. Elizabeth, we are at the end of
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our hot girl summer. We are, we are, and we have the
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hottest, the steamiest hot girl summer episode.
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Spencer, what did we watch this week?
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This week I'm so excited that I convinced Elizabeth to watch
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this. We watched Midsummer, everyone.
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Wow, that. Was a movie.
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I knew it was a risky choice for a game Elizabeth to watch, but
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it's such this is one of those films that's so popular right
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now. For some reason.
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Gen. Z loves this movie, which, I
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mean, it's an amazing movie. I love it too.
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Yes, Yes. But it's just like, becoming
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such a, like, cult classic. And it's going to be one of
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those movies that's, you know, recognized for its costume
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design years down the road even though it wasn't nominated for
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Academy Award. But, you know.
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Yeah. But Florence Pugh absolutely
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kills it. And.
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This does she. Does like her masterpiece and
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the costumes are top tier. It does not get better than
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this. I'm very excited to talk about
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it. I'm so excited to talk about it.
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Let's jump into it. Spencer, give us that summary.
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All right in the middle of an imaginable loss and a
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relationship she knows is clearly over, Danny finds
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herself in a Swedish commune that follows ancient traditions
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and seems to have everything she didn't know she needed.
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And that is Midsummer you. Haven't seen Midsummer.
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Go rent it somewhere. Anyway, going behind the
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wardrobe, we have director Arie Astor and costume designer
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Andrea Flesh. Her noble works are the Series X
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Company, Colette and Operation Mincemeat, which actually looks
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pretty interesting. My dad's been watching it.
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Oh. That's awesome.
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I've never. Heard of it but the title sounds
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crazy. I think it's, I think it's based
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off like a true World War two-story.
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I'm not positive. I don't know it's that era.
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Well, it's set in. As far as underrated costume
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designers go, Andrea Flask is it.
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I mean, she kills it with this film.
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I mean, it's to me, it's like Crimson Peak Dracula level
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costuming. This film is.
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Absolutely, absolutely. And like Dracula, it was a joint
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effort between all the departments, Andrea said to
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Bustle. These costumes are not coming
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from some original historic, historic thing, but also Henrik
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seven son, the production designer, We work very closely.
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Sometimes his designs inspired me, or sometimes he asked me to
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design A costume, and then he adjusted his designs to the
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costume. And a lot of people were helping
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us. The people who drew the runes,
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all the paintings on the wall. These paintings inspired me and
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I used motifs from them on the costumes, which I was like when
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they walk into like the communal like lodging.
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I was like a gorgeous, like I would Airbnb in bed there, like
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I'll I'll risk the ritual murder.
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I'm tempted to say I'll go with you, but I don't know.
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All you have to do is like be nice to them and not like insult
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their traditions. I think that was everybody
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else's problem. Yeah, maybe.
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I don't know. I'd have to be convinced.
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But as you know, I'm very easily convinced.
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I mean, as I said, if I ever do truly have a mental breakdown,
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this is where I'm going. But it's you see it and it's
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beautiful. And then we do get close up
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shots of these paintings on the on the walls.
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And I was kind of shocked, like how similar they were to the
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costumes. Yeah, It makes you wonder, like
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what came first, the production design or the costume design?
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Sounds like it was happening at the same time, which is really
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cool. It, it was like back and forth,
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back and forth. And I'm like, I love that.
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That's how films should be made. Yeah, I'm shocked that she said
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that this isn't based off some historical thing 'cause you
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would think like this is very like referencing a lot of
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culture, a lot of history. But if they just created this,
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that's even more incredible. Well, Spencer, I think we're
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both ready for a break and when we get back, I think I'm going
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to answer some of those questions for you.
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Some of the flowers are starting to move so I need to go lay
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down. All right.
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Elizabeth, Are you ready for your dreams to come true and go
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visit the Harga? I am so ready to visit the Harga
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Spencer, so ready. And so was Andrea.
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She was ready to get into this Swedish commune.
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She said that to Bustle that Ari knew that he wanted to have the
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Harga in white and also that we have to do close as possible to
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Swedish folk costumes, which at first glance that is what they
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absolutely did. However, Andrea found after some
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research that Sweden doesn't really have any more of those
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kind of costumes or materials. And then because of Sweden's
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apparently like strict filming restrictions, the production
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decided to branch out and shoot in Hungary instead of Sweden.
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And Andrea also decided to branch out with her research,
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she said to Bustle. I found out that folklore in the
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whole world has something in common.
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So I started to search the whole world what are similarities in
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Swedish folk and other folk and I found a lot.
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So the traditions were were my idea to use other countries folk
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costumes which are similar. Because there is this idea that
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everything is one in the end, which that really ties into the
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story. Yeah, that's that's very
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interesting and kind of shatters my entire world, like.
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Right, there's. A lot happening here and I'm
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obsessed with it. Which, you know, that makes
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sense. I mean, all of like those
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European countries, they're all right next to each other, but
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they all also have their own folk traditions.
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So it's like, yeah, they're all going to be a little similar and
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have like, you know, some similar, like, flavors and
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styles to draw from. But one of the fantastic things
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about filming in Hungary were their resources, Andrea told
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Bustle. Here you can find all the
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fabrics. So I bought tons of 100 year old
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linen fabric and embroidery, and I tried to find embroiders in
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Eastern Europe which looked like they could also be Swedish.
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That is crazy. So they're like, OK, we're
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shooting in Hungary. And she's like, OK, let let me,
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let me see what's going on in Hungary.
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And she's like, oh, 100 year old linen and then linen
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embroidered. Come on.
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Yeah. This is nice.
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Isn't that wild? Some of these costumes are like
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100 years old technically. I love that it just feels so
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real and authentic and like looking at the costumes, it's
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very convincing, it's very believable.
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Absolutely. And also what I love about it,
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the fact that it pulls from so many different countries.
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You know, I've talked to Whitney and Adams about this too, who we
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had on for an episode back in the day who did a costumes for
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Paranormal Activity. The most recent one where they
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dive into a cult and it's crazy because they're they're trying
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to portray themselves as Amish, but they're actually like this
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pretty sick cult. And it's kind of interesting now
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thinking about, like this, you know, Commune is definitely
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giving, like, cultish vibes. Yeah.
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So you think that they're like, oh, it's just like another
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Swedish commune, but something totally different that's almost
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appearing as something to the outside world when it's
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something totally different. Yeah, well, what I find
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interesting about the Harga is they have been there 100 plus
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years. Like it's, it's not like they're
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like modern Swedish people who decided to revert back to older
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traditions. They just, they never lost their
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old traditions. They've just learned to hide
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them from the rest of the world. So that's what I kind of find
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interesting about them. Also, like we said, all their
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embroidery, all their costumes all look very authentic.
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And Andrea said to Deadline that the costumes, it should look
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like they do their costumes themselves and everybody has his
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own costume. That's why it was also very
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important that all the costumes looked different.
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Some of them are better made, some of them less, to see the
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difference. It's not come out from a fashion
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house or a factory. So she's.
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Right. She's like these people,
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everybody made their own thing. Or it's like their wife made
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their, you know, Midsummer costumes.
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They they all, they all made their own.
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The embroidery is just amazing. Every time you see it go across
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the screen you're like wow, that is stunning.
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The craftsmanship. I bet you Andrea's team was
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hardcore. Absolutely.
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She actually, she talked to Bustle about the embroidery.
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She said we used a lot of original embroidery, which we
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copied and shaped, and we also made a lot of new embroidery.
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There are very good people in Hungary who can make it.
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So she just got all these Hungarian embroideries and we're
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like, go wild. I also love and these shoes.
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She, I ended up not being able to find the quote, but she
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mentioned in one of the interviews that the some, not
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everybody's, but some of them had runes on their shoes.
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And I believe this is a set from the movie where it's like even
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the shoes, even the shoes had their little runes on them.
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The tension to detail is amazing.
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And can I just point out, like all the hats we saw throughout
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this film or, my gosh, had pieces, I'm not even talking
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about the flower grounds. I'm talking about, like, just
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the hats, like the red piece. Yeah.
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It's so good, that woman who's like the master of ceremonies.
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Yeah, she she looked incredible the whole time.
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Yeah, and I. Was like oh get.
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A girl, the creepy guys that go into like the barn and whatnot
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that have like the string cats that are just, I guess they're
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more like masks covering their face.
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Yeah, yeah. Spooky, but like, also so chic.
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And yeah, like kind of couture. They have style the Harga has.
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Style they do, they wouldn't have this.
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Cannot be denied. Yeah.
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But they definitely do. Also, I mentioned this at the
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beginning, but they go through the Harga go through kind of a
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color transformation and Andrea talked about this to Deadline.
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She said the concept was that we started the movie all in white
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and as we go further through these 7 feasts, everybody
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dresses up more and more colorful.
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Then every feast had a color. I don't know how much you can
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see this in the movie, but the idea was that first we'd use
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only red, then we put some blue and then some yellow, then some
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green, and in the end all the colors come together.
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Yes, I noticed that too and I love it.
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So I have the picture from the first sacrifice question mark
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where, yeah, everyone's pretty much all in white.
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There is some blue embroidery here and there.
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There is some red embroidery. You can also see someone with
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gold embroidery, which she did talk about a little like you
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know how they talk about like The Four Seasons of life.
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They did kind of ascribe like a color to each.
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She didn't really go too in depth in it, which I I did, so I
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didn't add that. Death, I believe.
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Gold is death and like the this winter season, Yeah.
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So which all the people who are about to die?
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Yikes. Yeah, I definitely noticed that.
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Like looking at that first Cliff scene, which we have to talk
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about in a second, everyone's wearing white.
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But then one of the characters who, you know, she just hooked
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up with Danny's man, she's like in full, like floral print with
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red and green in it. At the end of it, yeah.
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The actress's name is Isabelle Grill, who's incredible in this
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film. Stunning.
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She's like in full floral print. So it's.
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So. Cool, I love it.
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It's so good and I love the scene where they're all crying
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with Danny because they all have.
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They all have like all these flower embroiders all in
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different colors. Like everyone is decked out by
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that last day, decked out by the time it is time to decide the
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May Queen. Spencer, after our break, Are
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you ready to talk about something iconic?
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Before we take a break, I wish I could pay money to see your
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reaction when the Cliff scene happened.
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I was mentally prepared, was not mentally prepared quite for how
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graphic it was. Yeah, it's pretty hard.
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That took me. That did take me aback a little
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bit. I think it was at that point
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that I started multitasking and playing Animal Crossing.
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But yeah, I was, I was a little more prepared for this, I think,
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than most people, but it was so stressful.
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Yeah, very stressful. I do not know how Gen.
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Z, it's mostly I'm saying Gen. Z because I have a lot of Gen.
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Z friends who have told me this. It's not I'm not making this up
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who like have this as their comfort movie.
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They like have it on in the background.
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I'm like, it's sick. Granted, I do watch like animal
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attack documentaries when I'm trying to relax and do like work
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so. Yeah, but that isn't people
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murdering and sacrificing other people.
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Yeah, it's just mountain lions murdering and attacking people.
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Yeah, it's nature. That's cute.
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Let's take a break, guy. It's getting hot.
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Spencer, Are you ready for a bear of a costume?
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This costume, still, it gives me the chills.
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I was, yeah, I've seen this movie a few times and I was at
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my desk and I I was also multitasking to like, help with
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the anxiety. And I could hear the like a bear
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dissection happening behind me. And I was like, I'm not, I'm
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not. Prepared So I from that podcast,
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I kind of thought like, they knocked him out and then he was
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just in the bear costume. I didn't realize he was like
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awake and watching the whole process.
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Yeah, I'm glad that they didn't show them like stuffing this
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poor guy into the bear costume. Like granted I do not like this
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character I thought he was. He was a Jackass.
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Yeah, he was a piece of work. He was a interesting guy.
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But the idea of stuffing this man into a bear suit really
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gives you the. Spookies.
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Yeah. Andrea talked a little bit to
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Bustle, just kind about the sacrifices and ceremonies.
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She said it was Ari's idea that the people who will die, they
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will wear gold because he created a color code.
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The whole film starts in white. The first ceremony they wear
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blue and gold, and gold always comes back when somebody dies.
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The May Queen ceremony, it was green, of course, and the animal
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sacrifice was red. And as we go further, more and
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more colors and the color becomes more intense in the
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final ceremony. Yes, which absolutely,
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absolutely. It's intense, but going back to
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the bear, like I don't know how this happened it, it's so crazy
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to me. I don't know how they did this.
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I know a Vanity Fair article talks a little bit about it.
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They didn't quote her directly, but it was a it was an
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artificial piece made from furs by a separate Hungarian
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prosthetics team. And she said it took weeks and
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weeks, so. Shocking.
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I couldn't figure out if it was like synthetic fur because she
21:39
does say it's artificial, or if they just took like multiple
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bear hides. I don't know.
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And put it together. It looks so realistic though.
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It's it's pretty crazy. There are really good synthetic
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furs now though, yeah. I mean, the character's face
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when he's just stuck in a bear costume.
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That's my face. Entire movie basically.
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Yes, I think that's everybody's face entire.
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He really deserved it though. All right, take this bear image
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off the screen. I can't look at it anymore.
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Yeah. Make sure it's cuddly.
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I don't know, it's cuddly I. Don't want to look at it
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anymore. Well, how about some flower
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crowns then, Spencer? It actually is.
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It's that's what's crazy about it is looking at Florence Pugh
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and these costumes is refreshing to look at.
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It's just like, so visually pleasing.
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It's so visually pleasing and I love like we see flower crowns
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throughout the entire movie. Especially remember in the
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Northman episode, I mentioned that like that's like an Eastern
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European tradition is the flower crowns.
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So you see them like throughout from the very first day onward.
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But then Dandy, in this like, single day, she goes from like
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the standard, like, oh, I'm in the make queen competition
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flower crown to this one that looks like they put a basket of
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flowers made of flowers on her head.
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Yeah, like that's what it looks like with this like, flower bib.
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That's adorable. It's adorable and it works
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perfectly against a white. Yeah, it's just so beautiful.
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And the breathing of the flowers because everyone's high AF in
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this film really trips me out. I, I was like, let's go visit.
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Yes. But then I love how it, it
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slowly but also very quickly builds to her May Queen gown,
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which is just, it's just flowers.
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Andrea says in her interview with Bustle that they wanted her
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to look like she had put a Meadow on.
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And it's like she does. She does.
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This is one of the most iconic costumes in history, and I've
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had the pleasure When you come out, Elizabeth, we have to go
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see. It's currently at the Academy
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Museum in its full glory. I mean, I have this print behind
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me on the wall. It is so beautiful in person.
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I mean, the screen obviously does it serious justice, but
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just seeing it in person, like I've seen people cry in the
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museum just standing around it. It's.
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Oh, my gosh. I can't wait to see it.
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So Andrea is set to Vanity Fair about making the dress.
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The idea, The first idea was, of course, to make it from real
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flowers. But because it took so long to
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make, it was not possible. Which it's like, yeah, that's.
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So funny. They're like that.
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Should be dead by tomorrow, yeah.
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Because I'm like like sure you can dip flowers in wax and they
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they last longer, but it's like not it doesn't look the same.
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Come on, that's not going to work.
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Oh my gosh, what if they almost made it like a Chia dress
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though? Oh that would be cool too.
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That would be cool. I just sorry I just thought of
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that like have the root systems like within the OK anyway.
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Yeah, it's not shocking to me that it's not real Flowers that
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doesn't. There's a lot of things that
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don't make sense about this movie, but that really doesn't
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make sense. No, yeah, yeah, yeah, that would
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not have made sense, she told Bustle what they did instead,
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she said We made this dress from around 10,000 silk flowers.
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First we had to make a pattern for the base of the dress.
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And under the dress there was like a hoop skirt to give it the
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contraction. She can really wear it, which is
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like, OK, that makes sense. I did not expect her to move at
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all in this dress. I thought she was just going to
25:48
stand there looking pretty. And then she's like screaming
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and like walking around. And I was like, oh.
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That's my favorite, like 5 seconds and the, well, it's
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longer than that. That's my favorite part of the
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entire film is when she's walking in it.
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Because that's what you think too.
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As like a costume designer. Like there's no way that thing
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moves. It would fall.
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Apart. And then she starts walking
26:09
like, whoa, that's intense. Yeah, no, it was so heavy they
26:15
had to give Florence Pugh a chair to sit on underneath it.
26:19
Oh, I'm sure like in between takes they were like, here's a
26:22
stool. I'm sure she sat in that costume
26:26
for hours and hours and hours so.
26:28
It was probably so. Hot Yeah, Summer.
26:31
She probably got to wear just like nothing underneath it
26:34
though. Probably.
26:36
Only like. It's one of the most beautiful
26:38
costumes ever. And the crown is so interesting
26:40
too, because it's not like a regular crown.
26:42
It's I love the four like Spires coming off of it.
26:46
Yeah, it's almost like branches of a tree, Like growing up,
26:52
that's what I thought it looked like.
26:54
Yeah, that makes sense. And then it's like, of course,
26:55
there's four for The Four Seasons that they're
26:59
celebrating. But Andrea talked about the
27:02
crown a little bit to Vanity Fair.
27:04
She said like the dress, it also became very heavy, the flower
27:09
crown. In the end, it was very hard for
27:13
Florence to wear it. The original design wouldn't
27:17
even stay on Pew's head. It was incredibly beautiful, but
27:22
we had to make it smaller, which I'm like, what was the original
27:27
idea? Like like smaller smaller than
27:31
this. This is huge.
27:34
Because I mean, even looking at the like the sketch, it doesn't
27:38
look that like it doesn't look crazy.
27:40
That looks more practical than what they did, honestly.
27:43
Yeah. I don't know, but yeah, that's
27:46
difficult. I can't imagine I've seen some
27:50
people on TikTok just going to shout it out.
27:52
Some people were saying like oh this is impressive.
27:55
It's just a bunch of flowers thrown together.
27:58
Clearly these people have no concept of how costume design
28:01
work. No.
28:02
I'm sure this took hours, weeks, lots of preparation.
28:07
It is art. This is just top tier costuming.
28:10
I. Her entire team was sewing and
28:13
gluing these flowers on. And like, honestly, to get an
28:17
artificial flower that looks that real is extremely
28:22
expensive. Yeah, it's not cheap or easy to
28:26
make fake flowers look that real because honestly, like I didn't
28:30
even really question whether or not they were fake.
28:33
And when I when I read that, I was like, it makes complete
28:37
sense, but it still kind of blew my mind.
28:39
Yeah. Because it looks so good.
28:42
Yeah, 'cause it's such like a wild assortment of flowers too.
28:45
Like there's no part of the dress that's like similar.
28:47
It's, you know, very assorted. No, and it's aesthetically
28:51
pleasing. Yeah, it's like it's Alexander
28:55
McQueen to me. It's just like high fashion.
28:58
What's more impressive to me than anything is the fact that
29:01
survived too, that she was able to walking it, that to me, the
29:05
fact that didn't fall apart, you know, wasn't just hot glued
29:09
because if it's just hot glued, she'd be leaving a trail behind
29:12
her. This thing survived and is in a
29:14
museum. Yeah, you know.
29:16
Like within within less than five years, it became so iconic
29:20
that they put it in a museum, right?
29:25
Like and I believe it's next to a Joan Crawford costume like
29:29
instead down the hall from the Wizard of Oz.
29:32
All in all, I I just think this film is incredible and that may
29:36
queen costume is just will always remain iconic.
29:39
I just Was this even nominated for CAMI award?
29:43
I don't know, but I think no. That's a shame.
29:46
It should have been 'cause this was a lot of very well thought
29:50
out, well constructed, thoughtful costumes.
29:54
Yeah, it should have been nominated.
29:56
For sure, Elizabeth, do you want to play your favorite game even
30:00
though I feel like there's no point?
30:05
The one costume to rule them all.
30:14
There is only one costume to rule them all this week.
30:17
It is the mate queen gown Spencer's not even trying to
30:22
argue with. Me.
30:23
No, Elizabeth, let me give my answer because we both know it's
30:27
there's only one choice. There's only one choice, because
30:31
let's get real, all of the people from outside the commune
30:35
looked kind of trashy. Yeah, they were.
30:37
Like they the annoying American tourist, you know which hey,
30:42
I've been there, you know. But I never pull out my greatest
30:45
fashion going on trips. But yeah, like everyone not from
30:50
the commune looks kind of trashy.
30:52
Everyone in the commune looks incredible.
30:55
But then this is just on another level.
30:57
And like I said, within five years, iconic enough to be in a
31:02
museum, so. Yeah, it's the May Queen.
31:06
It's yeah, it's probably 1 costume ruled them all like of
31:10
them all. You know, like if we were to do
31:12
A1 costume to rule them all competition, this one would
31:15
probably jump to the top. So it it would be in the top
31:18
five for sure like it it this and the Lucy gown would be neck
31:24
and neck. Yeah.
31:26
Oh, that gives. Me real Lucy brand stroker's
31:29
Dracula vibes. We should do that like contest
31:32
on Instagram. See.
31:34
You know, find it out. So we didn't have, we don't have
31:38
enough red dresses this year. We have to figure out something
31:40
else. Right, Elizabeth, I'm so glad
31:44
you watched this. I know it's crazy but like it
31:46
really packs its punches with the costumes.
31:49
It does. It does.
31:52
Thank you all for listening. Thank you all for listening.
31:55
If you loved this episode, please leave us a little five
31:59
star text review on Apple podcast and or Spotify.
32:03
Everybody have a fantastic week, Spencer.
32:12
It was so much. Fun I really.
32:15
It's so weird. Hearing our voices.
32:17
Especially like that. The old Mike it.
32:21
Was such a fun one, like I loved I remember just like pitching
32:25
this episode and being like, yeah, I know it sounds sounds
32:29
like a crazy film, but it. Is it's so.
32:31
Beautiful The costume design by Andrea Flash is just so
32:35
beautiful and I. It's it's a.
32:38
Spring classic it is for summer. I don't know.
32:42
I think it's summer classic spring summer, because season 2
32:44
was awesome when we started hot girl summer and you were like, I
32:48
have a film for you and I was like, do you do you?
32:52
I was like I have a specifically not watch this.
32:57
So. Looking back on it now, what do
33:00
you think you would have? Gave as their stitch.
33:01
Rating. For my stitch rating, it is a
33:06
solid 5 out of five stitches. Wow, It's, it's couture level.
33:11
Yeah, it's it's got hand on embroidery.
33:15
And you look at it and you're like, what?
33:18
And then you see, you see that the actor walk across and you're
33:23
like, oh, I get it. Yeah, it's a.
33:27
It's a beautiful film and I just, I think the acting is
33:30
phenomenal. The costumes of.
33:32
Course the sets. I think just a story in general
33:35
and that horrifying kind of like elements you see to it.
33:38
So I was going to say A5 out of five.
33:43
Yeah, I don't I could. There's nothing about it that I
33:45
don't like except that it's terrifying that first 15 minutes
33:49
like still sits with me. So I mean, this is a typical 5
33:53
out of five film. I don't watch it all the time
33:56
because it. Freaks.
33:57
Me out. But like it's a.
33:59
Solid film. Like if someone was like, what
34:03
are what's 1 of like the top five or ten, like best films you
34:10
like, you think have been ever made?
34:11
I'm like that. That would probably make the
34:12
list because like, I don't think there's really anything I would
34:15
change about it or like have criticism for.
34:18
Yeah, yeah. I, I can't either.
34:21
So maybe we should revisit our one customer with them all and
34:24
see if it's changed at all? OK.
34:27
Yeah, Spencer, has your one costumed rule them all changed?
34:31
No, probably not. It's the, it's the, it's the May
34:35
Queen dress. Yeah, it same.
34:39
Same honorable mention because we didn't do honorable mentions.
34:42
I think watching Florence Pugh's boyfriend be put into a big.
34:48
Old bear suit. Would be my honorable mention.
34:50
I mean, that's. That's pretty cool.
34:52
And I got to say, whenever I see a couple do A Midsummer
34:58
Halloween costume and the boyfriend is in the fair suit
35:03
and the girl is the make queen, I'm like, you've got a good
35:06
relationship there. We should make this for Chloe
35:09
and Daniel like we're going to ship them the making.
35:11
Can you imagine Daniel dressed as a giant bear?
35:15
Oh my gosh, that would be amazing that.
35:16
Would give me serious life. Daniel, save room in your
35:21
closet. Save room in your closet.
35:24
Don't listen to this part of the podcast.
35:26
It's a It's a secret. Oh, this is so fun.
35:29
I'm so glad that we got to do this, and I hope you all
35:32
enjoyed. Yeah, let's know if we should
35:34
continue to do a little bit more of these rewind episodes.
35:37
I I think it's a. Good, good way of.
35:40
Showing some of our great work with some of our newer listeners
35:43
that might have come along with The Hunger Games and the Marvel
35:48
films that we did later on. So less known to comments, send
35:52
us messages. You could always e-mail us at
35:53
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Which you could join. Find a link below as well and
36:10
get to connect. With other costume nerds,
36:12
Elizabeth, I'm very excited. We have some great stuff coming
36:16
up, some things that we can't talk.
36:18
About that we're still. Working on behind the scenes.
36:21
Yes. I can say for sure that we have
36:25
a great Star Wars month coming up in May.
36:27
We do. We do.
36:28
Lots of fun guests. Yeah, we're having a little
36:31
party our May 1st episode in May.
36:35
Is it May 4? 5th.
36:36
Or 6th. Whatever that Tuesday.
36:38
Is we are going to be watching Star Wars The Phantom Menace?
36:43
So we've made it to the prequels, everybody.
36:45
And I'm so excited. We have some special guests for
36:48
that. And, you know, we have all sorts
36:51
of things coming down the line. We have.
36:53
A serious list of. Things going on so.
36:56
We're we're. Going to get to.
36:57
Work after this. Thank you all for listening and
37:01
happy Midsummer. Happy Midsummer.
37:03
Way too early, yeah. Way too.
37:06
Early, Yeah, get ready, get yeah, get ready.
37:09
Get ready for Midsummer. Get ready for Hot Girl Summer
37:12
and have a fantastic week.