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NFL Week 5 TNF Showdown | 49ers @ Rams | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems going clear the lift up?
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  Speaker 2: What's up?
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  Speaker 3: Everyone?
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tamberline here aka Totag and Tambo back for another
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  Speaker 3: Got hoop got titled gonna.
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  Speaker 1: Break down all things forty nine Ers at the Maybe
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  Speaker 1: we'll cover FanDuel first to get that out of the way.
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  Speaker 1: One thousand dollars Mac Jones, but Hoopster, bring you in, man,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on?
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  Speaker 3: How you doing this week?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Interesting game? Obviously, we have that dynamic on FanDuel
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  Speaker 2: where we have the thousand dollars quarterback and we'll get
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  Speaker 2: into it and discuss it from a game theory standpoint,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, kind of hit on all angles of that.
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  Speaker 2: And then you have the forty nine ers team who
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  Speaker 2: in general is depleted. All their pass catchers are out,
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  Speaker 2: quarterback out, and the Rams have balloon to basically like
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  Speaker 2: a nine point favorite, nine and a half point favorite
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  Speaker 2: depending on where you look. So it definitely changes the
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  Speaker 2: dynamic of this game in a pretty big way. Tons
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  Speaker 2: of value, I mean tons of tons of value, especially
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  Speaker 2: when you look at the wide receivers and tight ends
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  Speaker 2: on the slate because Higbee is out as well. Not
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  Speaker 2: as impactful as the forty nine ers situation, but that
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  Speaker 2: does open up additional cheap plays. So we have a
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  Speaker 2: plethora of cheap plays on this lates of value and
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  Speaker 2: then you throw in, like we said, the fandual one
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars mac Jones and have all the value you
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  Speaker 2: could have won in the world. But you know, start
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  Speaker 2: to week five excited I'll get some some good games.
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  Speaker 2: The buys are kicking in here this week as well,
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  Speaker 2: so changes the main slate a little bit. So excited
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  Speaker 2: to get this week started, same schedule as as every
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  Speaker 2: week here. Obviously today we'll have the main show on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: We have tomorrow the Cash Show. I know you and
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  Speaker 2: Blick will have been going on Saturdays. Have that show,
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  Speaker 2: have the Sabers show with Rio and sheets. The survivor
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  Speaker 2: content already posted from our guys sheets, so the week's
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  Speaker 2: already kicked into full gear ready to go.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Week five, incredible stuff going on. And the saying in
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  Speaker 1: week three hoop was you know, what was the saying exactly,
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  Speaker 1: what have you ever spent on three bucks and said, man,
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  Speaker 1: that was a bad deal like or whatever you basically
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  Speaker 1: said when it came to that.
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  Speaker 2: What was the saying, yeah, it's basically that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there has there ever been a time where like, might
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  Speaker 2: this waste to three dollars on that? Like hell no,
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  Speaker 2: Like when you get mad at yourself for overspending, it's
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  Speaker 2: usually at least triple digits, you know for some people,
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  Speaker 2: depending on where you're at financially, four digits. You know,
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  Speaker 2: once you get over a thousand and then it's like, fuck, man,
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  Speaker 2: that that was a dumb purchase. It depends where you're at.
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  Speaker 2: It's all relative. But I mean, no matter where you're at,
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  Speaker 2: I can't imagine you said, man, can't believe I spent
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  Speaker 2: that three dollars Like it's it just doesn't. It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: really happen like that.
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  Speaker 1: I like it for Week five before I bring title in,
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  Speaker 1: we do got a boost it a bit, but you
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  Speaker 1: just laid it all out and all the good stuffs there,
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  Speaker 1: so we'll hammer the marketing within two seconds because we
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  Speaker 1: brought it back. But we had to bring something back
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  Speaker 1: we could keep on full time and not get abused
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  Speaker 1: because people just like to like take their little codes
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  Speaker 1: and put all their different emails and all this. So
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  Speaker 1: week five you got to get comfortable with less than
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  Speaker 1: twenty bucks. But five days for nineteen dollars. It's all
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  Speaker 1: access you can get on any plan. And it's the
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  Speaker 1: reason the five days is so cool is because you
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  Speaker 1: get Thursday night, you get Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. So
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  Speaker 1: even if you only play football or only want to
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  Speaker 1: check out football on our site with sabersim and everything
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  Speaker 1: blended together, you do that. But there's MMA, there's NASCAR,
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  Speaker 1: there's baseball playoffs, there's all kinds of stuff going on.
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  Speaker 3: Golf is back this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Like literally everything except NBA and NHL are on the go,
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  Speaker 1: college football, like, there's everything. So five days, nineteen bucks.
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  Speaker 1: The code is ship nineteen and it's any monthly all
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  Speaker 1: access planned title. My man, what's going on? We're back
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  Speaker 1: another week?
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  Speaker 3: Week five? Baby, We're here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're here. Money to be made. Hoop didn't mention
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  Speaker 4: the name Rio, though it is Rio's special day. It's
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  Speaker 4: his birthday out there, so everybody go is Rio Hebrew
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  Speaker 4: Chita very happy birthday. Maybe he will be up top
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  Speaker 4: with the Ship in Nation logo when it's all said
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  Speaker 4: and done. But yeah, I mean on paper eight and
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  Speaker 4: a half point spread and favorite are the Niners a
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  Speaker 4: bunch of bunch or not the Niners?
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me?
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  Speaker 4: Are the Rams a bunch of injury news? On the
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  Speaker 4: Niner side? Pricing is all crazy? Yeah, fandwel it's crazy, DK,
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  Speaker 4: it makes a little more sense. But there's still plenty
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  Speaker 4: of different options, plenty of I own pieces that will
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  Speaker 4: be on the field, plenty of chalk I mean Pooka,
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  Speaker 4: Christian McCaffery, two of the best DFS players there are
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  Speaker 4: in this game. So yeah, it's an interesting one to
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  Speaker 4: talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, lots of great people out in the chat. I
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  Speaker 1: put it up there earlier. And Hoop, I'm gonna get
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  Speaker 1: your grand scheme overview in just a second.
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  Speaker 3: But we are definitely.
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  Speaker 1: Going to be getting into the ship of Games winners soon,
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  Speaker 1: so keep that in mind, guys, and Hoop, I still
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  Speaker 1: think undefeated, right four and oh?
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  Speaker 2: Four and oh? Last week was by default, but we
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  Speaker 2: take the win and move on, keep that undefeated record
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  Speaker 2: nice and clean. And another thing I did did want
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  Speaker 2: a touch on which I was just kind of reminded of,
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  Speaker 2: was this is the also the three year anniversary of
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  Speaker 2: winning the Millie October two of twenty twenty two. It's
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  Speaker 2: my best friend's son's birthday, so that's how I always remember.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, three year anniversary, so could have some special
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  Speaker 2: things bruined tonight. Here you friends are.
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  Speaker 3: Real dead best friends son's dead? Is that your best friend?
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  Speaker 3: They have Rio?
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  Speaker 1: But Rio's dad is the man too, by the my shuttle, Barry.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, let's let's hop into it here.
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  Speaker 4: Hoops.
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  Speaker 1: So we got forty nine ers at the RAMS. We
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  Speaker 1: talked about it off the top. There's injuries, there's low
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  Speaker 1: oaned options, there's a ton of ways to get different
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  Speaker 1: on this slate, even with the spread moving up, all
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  Speaker 1: that different, the different factors like literally almost everybody is
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  Speaker 1: injured on the forty nine ers. But what is sort
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  Speaker 1: of your grand scheme overview just from looking at it
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  Speaker 1: from a DFS perspective.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the one thing for sure, I mean, to me,
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  Speaker 2: the most important topic always is like what you do
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  Speaker 2: at Captain for the most part. I mean, other things
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  Speaker 2: go into it, but what you do at Captain is
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  Speaker 2: kind of the first decision that a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: look to make, and including myself. And this is a
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  Speaker 2: slate where we have some potential big boys up top
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  Speaker 2: and some potential absolute nuke scores. You know, McCaffrey can
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  Speaker 2: easily nuke the slate. Puka has nuked multiple slates this season,
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  Speaker 2: and that's the full twelve game slates. Now we're talking
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  Speaker 2: just showdown. DeVante Adams has had the big game and
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  Speaker 2: then credit to you Tamba on Matthew Stafford last week,
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  Speaker 2: and he had the massive game last week, which no
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  Speaker 2: one really saw coming. And you know I always talked
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  Speaker 2: about on those Sunday shows. You know, one thing, one
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  Speaker 2: thing to always uh, you know, keep in mind when
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  Speaker 2: you're watching these shows and whoever you're listening to, whether
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  Speaker 2: it's us or somebody else, be be able to move,
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  Speaker 2: be shifty, be be able to make adjustments. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I added some Matthew Stafford last week. I thought I
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  Speaker 2: had some made some good points about Stafford. I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: gonna play on prior to the show. After the show,
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  Speaker 2: I added him into my player pool because of what
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  Speaker 2: you said. So, uh, that's that's one thing. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't want to point out be willing to make
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  Speaker 2: some changes. Someone makes a strong point, and I always
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  Speaker 2: come into these shows very open minded. So glad I
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  Speaker 2: did that last week. Now I didn't win anything substantial,
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  Speaker 2: but he wasn't my player pool more so than he
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  Speaker 2: was prior to the show. But good call on that.
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  Speaker 2: And you know it did you know, to relate it
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  Speaker 2: to this single game tonight, like he did show that
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  Speaker 2: he can have the big boy games. Now, if this
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  Speaker 2: was a Showdown slate, you would have needed Puka over
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  Speaker 2: him even in that game. So it is a little
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  Speaker 2: bit different trying to compare the main slate to the
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  Speaker 2: Showdown slate, you would have needed Pooka. But he showed
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  Speaker 2: us last week that he still can put up the
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  Speaker 2: big fantasy game. So I think someone's probably gonna, you know,
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  Speaker 2: go off, you know, whether it's McCaffrey, Pooka, Stafford, DeVante, Adams,
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  Speaker 2: kyn Williams. Like, somebody to me is gonna have a
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  Speaker 2: have a big game, and you know that will kind
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  Speaker 2: of be my focus at the captain. So with that,
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  Speaker 2: all with that, he said, and then tying it all
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  Speaker 2: back together. Like, you know, if you guys convinced man
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  Speaker 2: somebody else, you know, maybe I'll ad him in. But
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  Speaker 2: as of now, I'm just focused on probably those those
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  Speaker 2: main guys under the assumption that somebody goes off here tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, only one guy's name sounds like nuke pooka nuke
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  Speaker 1: kua if you want to nuke the slates, So maybe
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  Speaker 1: that could be the guy. Again, like this what he does,
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  Speaker 1: but pretty incredible how quickly he racks up those catches.
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  Speaker 1: All oh, we'll get the title in a minute with
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  Speaker 1: his grand scheme. Over you watching the props, I saw
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  Speaker 1: some crazy receptions and receiving yards for McCaffrey so and
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  Speaker 1: which I think is an interesting thing to talk about
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  Speaker 1: when we get there. But just a note on everything
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  Speaker 1: you said, I mean, like for this slate, it's definitely
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  Speaker 1: gonna be you know that those two captains that people
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  Speaker 1: are considering the most. I think that's a big factor.
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  Speaker 1: And then I just like the part you said about
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  Speaker 1: just having an open mind. I think that's why people
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  Speaker 1: like the conversations we have. I know that's why people
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  Speaker 1: like our discord at ship Nation, because it's kind of
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: just a bunch of friends family sitting around chatting brew stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but bring a ton of good points and I pick
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  Speaker 1: up all those nuggets. And the joke last week was
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  Speaker 1: the woody marks thing because we called them for the
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  Speaker 1: two touchdowns. But Title actually made valid points about woody
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  Speaker 1: marks that weren't just jokingly and it turned out to happen.
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  Speaker 1: But a lot of that was the chat was chiming in.
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  Speaker 1: Title put his thoughts on it. We all were spinning
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  Speaker 1: up and funny people did take the advice, and we
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  Speaker 1: had some of those screenshots, those receipts in the chat
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  Speaker 1: for the two touchdowns.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of different things that can
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  Speaker 1: come from it, a lot of good things. But Title,
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  Speaker 1: what's your thoughts tonight with some of this stuff? I
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  Speaker 1: guess one thing I'll kick to you out of the
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  Speaker 1: gates for your grand scheme is the how soon if
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  Speaker 1: this game gets out of hand?
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying it could.
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  Speaker 1: How long do they leave McCaffrey are there to die
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  Speaker 1: with everybody else when everyone else is already dead in
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  Speaker 1: theory like of like the analogy here, So what's your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on that? Because he's definitely gonna get steamed up
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  Speaker 1: still and he's already super owned.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would think it'd probably have to be like
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  Speaker 4: a three touchdowns and the forty nine ers just like
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  Speaker 4: went three and out. Are they punted the ball with
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  Speaker 4: like four minutes left in the third quarter or something
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  Speaker 4: like that. I think that's the earliest we'd really see
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  Speaker 4: him get pulled. We see eight and a half points spright,
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  Speaker 4: because I've been going back and forth on that too.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, his workload this year is just been insane,
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  Speaker 4: Like it feels like a punt spot. But eight and
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  Speaker 4: a half point favorites, like we see eight and a
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  Speaker 4: half point dogs win or at least give fights you
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  Speaker 4: just saw with the Browns against the Packers a little
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  Speaker 4: bit ago. If this game isn't handed, or if this
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  Speaker 4: game's competitive at all, even a fourteen nothing or twenty
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  Speaker 4: one to seven like McCaffrey's going to be out there,
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  Speaker 4: So I think it probably have to be kind of
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  Speaker 4: out of hand by the end of the third they
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  Speaker 4: punt the ball and then you don't see him getting
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  Speaker 4: for the fourth just broad slate overview. I mean I
• 11:02
  Speaker 4: do the same with Hoop. Just look at captain ownership. Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: Pooka McCaffrey getting a bunch of it. Then looking at prices,
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  Speaker 4: they're the two most expensive. But it's also it's not
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  Speaker 4: hard to play those guys. We have so many viable
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  Speaker 4: cheapies today with all these injuries, where it's easy to
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  Speaker 4: play them up top. Parkinson six hundred bucks, sky Moore
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  Speaker 4: eight hundred, Whittington one K, Davis Allen one point two k,
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  Speaker 4: Luke Farrell won six You like use check Brian Robinson.
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  Speaker 4: Now do some of those guys sound appealing? Probably? Not.
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  Speaker 4: All of them have a projection over like one point five.
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  Speaker 4: All of them are gonna be on the field. That's
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  Speaker 4: really all you asked for. Half the time, it feels
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  Speaker 4: like we only have one guy below one K that
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  Speaker 4: even will be on the field or viable. So you
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  Speaker 4: can still easily play in my broad slate, play the
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  Speaker 4: two best plays if you want in McCaffrey and Pook
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  Speaker 4: up top, and there's so many ways to get different
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  Speaker 4: leave money. We've seen a lot of like three four
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  Speaker 4: two dupes up top. When it's all said and done
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  Speaker 4: on the Showdown slates, I wouldn't be surprised if we
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  Speaker 4: got another one today tonight, which is what we always
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  Speaker 4: like to see.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the part I love about this spot. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: like I said on fandol's a whole different conversation. Again,
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  Speaker 1: there's tons of ways you can use that and figure
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  Speaker 1: it out differently. But I do hate that it involves
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more. I think the variants, which is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the luck factor on that side verse on
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  Speaker 1: this side. I feel like, even play differently and do whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, well we'll get there when we get there.
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  Speaker 1: For now, I would say that we kind of covered everything.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing is too if you do, you can
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  Speaker 1: definitely build for more scenarios tonight. Like again, I don't
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  Speaker 1: always like building for an I wouldn't build for an injury.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said that, one's always tough, but like, if
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  Speaker 1: you want to build for a blowout, you could have
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  Speaker 1: like Blake Korum mixed with you know, other guys. On
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  Speaker 1: the other side, it's so hard to see, like like
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  Speaker 1: Hoop already said this, but like it's so hard to
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  Speaker 1: see some of these other captains popping up, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: DeMarcus Robinson Revenge Game or two two at Well or
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  Speaker 1: they're like sure, anything can happen. It's a showdown slate,
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  Speaker 1: but it's like, man, it's really tricky when there's you know,
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  Speaker 1: this type of setup in this type of slate, So
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  Speaker 1: it should be a fun one to build.
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  Speaker 3: See what everything's kicking out. But hoop, I'll start with you.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: You already talked to a little bit of what the
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  Speaker 1: captain's up top, anything else you're seeing when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to that on the sabersim side of things, or anything
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  Speaker 1: else you want to add with the captains and quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: before we go position by position?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, is there anything that stands out to you guys
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  Speaker 2: like outside of like the main dudes, Like, is there
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  Speaker 2: like if you're outside of the main group of guys, like,
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  Speaker 2: is there any of these cheapies that you could envision
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  Speaker 2: up top?
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead?
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  Speaker 4: Title, Well, I was just gonna say, I mean, even
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  Speaker 4: like the DeVante hiring, by no means are they different.
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  Speaker 4: But I think it's clearly Puka Cimac in a tier
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  Speaker 4: of their own at ownership and what people are thinking
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  Speaker 4: where it's just playing those two alone up top is
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  Speaker 4: somewhat different and different enough. I really struggle to get
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  Speaker 4: to these so called like bums or something down here
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  Speaker 4: to really break it. So I think, yeah, just going
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  Speaker 4: or the quarterbacks, like, even though we're showing Stafford ten
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  Speaker 4: percent captain, I mean, I I feel like people just
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  Speaker 4: don't like I mean, he's coming off a big game.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe people see that, but a statue of a quarterback
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  Speaker 4: with so many good options, like it feels like people
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  Speaker 4: don't really get to that at captain too often Matt
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  Speaker 4: Jones won't be played at all. So I'd rather just
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  Speaker 4: play a quarterback that's going to be relatively low on
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  Speaker 4: then go down low at captain.
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  Speaker 3: I got two quick thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: One is, with all that said, you agree with pretty
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  Speaker 1: much everything title said, but I will say.
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  Speaker 3: Two things. One Kieran Williams.
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  Speaker 1: Again, I think the issue is like Blake Korham's likely
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  Speaker 1: to get in there at some point, and also he
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  Speaker 1: has already been getting snapped. But if there is a
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  Speaker 1: chance that it is the early blowout or they're starting
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  Speaker 1: at early, we could see a chance. We could see
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  Speaker 1: where Williams causes that early that really is beneficial in
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  Speaker 1: those lineups. It doesn't mean it's great for the slate.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: Who knows what's great till the slate's over. But the
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: reason I say it is because if he gets in
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: early a couple of times it really hurts even needing.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: Those other guys. So therefore those lineups do make more
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: sense from that perspective.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: It's not saying it's the nuts, is just saying why
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: I'll definitely have that at that price point. The other thing, though,
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: I think Coop, is that it's actually gonna come down
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: to your type of your type of lineup in the
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: sense of five ones versus, am I gonna I have
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: four two's, Yes am, I gonna have three threes? Yes am?
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: I gonna find ways to mix those guys in that way.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: But that's still gonna be guys like born Tong's Robinson,
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: but more in the flex right, that's gonna be I'm
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: still building.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying I can go Puka.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: But I think a lot of Pookah captains will be
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: five to one and four two versus how many will
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: be three to three? And what does that look like?
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: And I didn't do this fully yet, but I'm assuming
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of those three threes would look like five
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: grand or four grand on the table where people aren't
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: quite as comfortable with something like that. I'm gonna be
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: comfortable with that, So I'm gonna be flipping it around
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: that way and probably not spreading it out at captain
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: too much tonight myself.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah a ton to agree good points there, Uh yeah,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: So start going through these positions like quarterback. I mean,
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: don't necessarily love either of them in the captain spot.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: I think they're both fine in the flocks. I probably
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: will play some Stafford, but man, even the massive game
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: last week from Stafford, like if there was a showdown
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: slate like he wasn't, he wouldn't have been the captain
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: on the Showdown slate. And that's like the ceiling ceiling
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: performance from Matthew Stafford. Like if Stafford goes off, like
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: either Pooka or DeVante Adams is probably going off and
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: they're going to be needed in captain over him. So
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: that's where I struggle with Stafford. Fine find in the
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: flex but you know, I don't really envision getting him
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: captain in the captain all that much. And then mac
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Jones like not a ton running backs. You know kinda
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: already talked about McCaffrey. I mean, care of his own.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: The workload is going to be massive. The floor is
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: absolutely insane. It's like weird to say because a lot
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: of times they're like, oh a guy scores two touchdown,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: he's going to go off with McCaffrey. If he scores
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: one touchdown, he's probably going absolutely off with all the
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: receptions could be a ton of dump off. They're playing
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: from behind, which the spread indicates. I mean he has
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: ten reception upside. He can get the bonus in receiving
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: potentially here today, the ram i'd be if they have
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: a lead. I'm sure they're fine giving up all the
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: underneath stuff to them and you know, let him pick
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: up five six yards at a time. So great play.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Kyum Williams probably needs a couple of touchdowns to be
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: the captain that you need. But I think the cheapies
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: are interesting here Quorum. I mean Quorum has been getting
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: work and he's only three thousand. Like I usually don't
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: like the backup running backs, but very cheap he had.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: He's had nine Tartan Nina rushes. Last week he had eight.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: The week before last week he had four targets as well.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: So I think Quorum's a really, really good play and
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: I don't really have to worry about ownership. We have
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: all these cheap wide receivers and tight ends that we're
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: going to get to, like it has to get spread out.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: So I think Quorum is a really solid option if
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: this game gets completely out of hand. Brian Robinson Junior
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: should should get a lot of work here. I think
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: he's fine, and then use check maybe a little bit.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I mean the use check to be inoptimal. You probably
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: need like a low scoring game or something for him
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: to kind of get there. But you know, Korum and
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Robinson I think are fine options. And again you don't
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: need to worry about ownership or anything because when we
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: get to the wide receiver tight end, you're going to
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: see there's so many cheap options that are all going
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: to get played where it has to get spread out.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: So you know, McCaffrey, Kyra Williams speak for themselves, but
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: like Korum and Robinson Junior, I think are fine options here.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's kind of the the other thing I
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: was going to say up top is like the Stafford
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: doesn't tend to spread it out, so if you are
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: going to go that's the whole point of why we
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: like them in something like Classics late last week when
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I was gonna you like Niakua and it's kind of like,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: if it's going to be that and they have those
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: ceiling type games.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: It's typically going to be that way and showdown.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Though, when you have a quarterback up top, you kind
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: of want someone that spreads it out.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: It's not really what he does.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: So if you are going to go Stafford up top,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking like Stafford, Nakua, Adams and somebody else.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Like that, it's usually like people like, oh, you gotta
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: put them with two guys.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: You might want to put them with three because it
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: would mean that you have to pull from Nikua and
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: from Adams, which is really tough tough to do for sure.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: So I think that's something to look at their title
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: your thoughts up top.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: I mean mac Jones.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: People are talking about him because of the FanDuel factor.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they know this, but in case they don't,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: when he's a thousand bucks or sorry, fifteen hundred an
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: MVP on FanDuel, it's not because they like mac Jones.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: It's because you're getting a starting quarterback that allows you
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: to fit the lineup that will be the most duplicated
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five period unless they make this mistake
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: again and can't put that pass FanDuel.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: But go ahead, yeah, I mean you couldn't get more
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: of an obvious build on FanDuel Max Jones and you
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: can play every single player after that. Yeah, DK, I
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: do like your point on if you're playing Stafford up
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: top probably three because it is so condensed with Devonte
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: and Puka and full point PPR, it's just harder to
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: get there, Like you almost need some random other guy
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: to catch a touchdown and maybe just even hope a
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Pooka doesn't catch a touchdown. He goes just nine for
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: one hundred. But because Stafford has two or three touchdowns
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: other people, it just works that way. And I don't
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: love it because I just Pooka DeVante. It feels like
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: if they can go off, it's one of those two.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: And when I say it like that, like I have
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: no bad word to say about Pooka McCaffrey. I'll play
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: a bunch of them. But just seeing Davante at seven
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: percent captain ownership, like why couldn't it be a Devonte
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: game easily can get in the box twice, His expected
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: points have been amazing, he's produced. It's just such a
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: concentrated target share for the Rams. Pooka's going to be
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: three times as owned McCaffrey's going to be three times
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: is owned as well. If someone is there, if someone's
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: captain optimalill not name those two. In my opinion, it's
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: DeVante or it's Kyron. So those are two guys that
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: are a lot less owned that I'll be playing a lot.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: If Kiren falls in the box twice on the ground,
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: the optimal will look a lot different than if it's
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: a McCaffrey, if it's a Pooka, if it's how most
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: people are building. So I just think you get a
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: lot of leverage with the Kyron stuff, and I like it.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: I like the Davante's stuff. Outside of those four like
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: I struggle with again, both quarterbacks Kendrick Bourne, do I
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: just go to like a wide receiver one on the
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: other sie at a price discount. To do it that way,
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't exit out. Maybe at Jake Tongs, I don't know,
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: he's tight end one. He's out there on a ton
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: of routes. They're eight and a half point dogs, like
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: they should be throwing the ball a ton. Even if
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: it's the fourth quarter, I'd expect Tongs and Born and
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: all these guys will still be in the game. So
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: if I'm playing any other captains, I think, but the
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: main four maybe Stafford. I think I'm just picking the
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: pass catchers on the Niners that'll be on the field,
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: and I think it's Born and I think Tongs if
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: you want to go to Marcus. I already saw some
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: revenge game this and that. Sure, whoever you think their
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: best one is, they're all going to be low owned
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: enough from what I've seen, Like when Juwan was out
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: Week three, Born was clearly the next man up. So
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: I'm looking at him and props have him wide receiver one. Sure,
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: if he gets seventy yards in a touchdown, maybe that's enough.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: If all the studs get there, you get on a
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: different build. But I'll be pretty tight at captain.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Another thing I want to say too, I was
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: just thinking of this is what was it?
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: There was something else that somebody said, Oh this, Yeah, Derek,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: our guy in class room one twelve, he's over they're
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: running the class up. But he says mac Jones, this
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: is this. I actually look at this differently, you know,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: sometimes people want to slam that. I actually think the
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: injuries here, man.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Like, why mac Jones that was all?
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: But if he's down three touchdowns, he has to throw
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: it a bunch like sometimes they just literally run it out, man,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Like they just run like again, it'll be short, chippy throws,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: move the chains, let's get the.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Hell out of this game and move on. I've seen
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: it a million times.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know, And that's that's a pretty fishy line,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: because wouldn't you think the guy's like so live to
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: throw an interception here, They're gonna be down a bunch.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: They should be based on the numbers, et cetera, et cetera.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you see that. I just think it's gonna
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: be a world where they're gonna try and just ram
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: stuff no pun intended, and try and just make it
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: happen and get the clock moving and then hope that
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: things start to go their way. And if they don't,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I think they're just gonna let it. I just have
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: that sort of feeling that's gonna let it play out
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Nobody just concedes in the NFL until
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: they do later in the game, Like title said, maybe
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: four minutes left, they pumped that out. That's yes, when
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: they would actually throw in the white towel maybe, But
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: right now, I just don't see that the and especially
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: if the rams D are going to be almost twenty
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: percent owned, I know we're gonna get there later and
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: people are putting.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Them up top and everything.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I'd rather put them up top if it's a
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: rams D game than sure, But if not, it's not
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: something that I absolutely love. Title, I'll go back to
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: you if anything else you want to add to that stuff.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: If not, you can. You can spend more time on
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: those wide receivers if you want. But yeah, I think
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: we've got quarterback and running back kind of covered here.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't hate rams defense. I mean, like you said,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: they're coop called it last show I forget or one
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: of the shows are just like there's no bills against Miami,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: I believe, or there's just no way they're going to
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: be x percent and they definitely took steam. They're going
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: to take a lot of steam in the flex so
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: but Captain, they still always do come in somewhat in check.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: And if you play them at captain, just don't play
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: like the top ten most obvious bills like project the
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: highest and leave no salary. You still got to make
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: a pivot here or there. And again we're talking the
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: eighty eighty twenty dollars right now. If you're playing them
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: in a thousand man tournament, Rams captain, of course, you
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: can pretty much play whatever you want after that. I'm
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: fine with it. I rarely ever do get to the
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: d captains. Yeah. The thing with met it just I
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: think the forty nine ers are a better franchise than
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: these Jets and some of these other bogus teams. Like
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: the Jets completely gave away the game on Monday with
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Fields when they were down twenty four to thirteen with
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: eight minutes left, and they punted the ball on fourth
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: and ten like it's a two possession game. They only
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: lost by six points, Like you can still win that game.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: They clearly poverty franchise. Don't care bingals same way, it
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: was a little different scenario. I'm putting some faith in
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: Shanahan and this good organization. I'm hoping where if they're
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: down fourteen to twenty one, I'm hoping they're not going
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: to run cube or run draws and just dives and
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: just punt the football and make it that way. So
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: I remember Derek's did say like he brought up the
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it was two or something. It
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: was minus one forty on the show, and he checked
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: later because someone tagged us it was like minus one
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: seventy five or something. I don't know. I don't hate it, yeah,
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: It's right there. It's to get you, you know, people
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: interested in it. For sure.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: They've got the number enticing enough for those that want
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: to be in on something like that. But I think
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: there's more to it than that. I will say, just
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: circling back now and then hoop, I'll go to you
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: on wide receiver is I actually might have more interest
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: in mac Jones only because I'm playing a portfolio of
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: lineups and the thought process now is like he's he
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: looks like Patrick Mahomes and literally on the slate of
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: how many receivers he has to go to, and a
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: couple of them even are former chiefs in some of
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: these guys that he's got over there, So I think
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I would have more interested I like, if the if
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: the forty nine ers somehow show up, it's, uh, you know,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: McCaffrey's going to be the most popular guy up there.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I think that's where we talked about Kieran Williams up top.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: He does a bunch of different stuff for you in
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: many ways, he hurts Nikua. He can be the opposite
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: of McCaffrey. It could change the game bag again. McCaffrey
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: is gamescript independent until unless the game goes away where he's.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Out of it completely or not needed.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: But I'll say, like, I don't mind the idea of
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: if you were going Mac Jones up top for just
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: an additional guy, he's still a starting quarterback that could
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: spread it around. Not something I love, but just thinking
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: about it, the more I look at it, as I
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: was going to think about wide receiver.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Who so I'll let you take it over.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: But there's more, And there's Robinson the other CYB already
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: talked to Kua Adams. We see at Well Whittington, guys
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: like that getting catches and then of course the tight
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: ends that will get there in a second.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: But what do you got a wide receiver hoop?
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, the RAMS side is I mean it's
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: crazy to go from, you know, probably the most condemned
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: wide receiver group to just the complete spread out mess.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: And in the forty nine ers, the rams are easy.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Puka DeVante Adams, I think playable up top. Obviously in
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: the flex if you are playing Stafford captain. You need
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: probably at least one of those guys in the flex,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: so just easy plays and then you can throw in Whittington,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: you know he's fine, cheap options twenty eight hundred. And
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: you go to sam Fran. You know their wide receiver
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: one is thirty six hundred dollars in Kendrick Horn, you know,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: DeMarcus Robinson will be out there fifty two hundred, sky
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Moore is fourteen hundred. I'm on the I'm on FanDuel,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I randled off the completely wrong prices on DK.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Kendrick Bourne forty six hundred, DeMarcus Robinson thirty
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: six hundred, sky Moore eight hundred, and then my boy,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: MBS twenty six hundred. I know they've done a couple
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: of MBS comments in the chat and yeah, I mean
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I have to play a little MBS. But the main
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: point is you're getting all the wide receivers for San
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Fran below five k So like what does that do
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: for roster construction today? And you just have to be
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: willing to leave a lot of money on the table
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: when building out these teams, like these guys are a
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: couple of them are going to do something. I mean,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: they're just way too cheap. The team's probably playing for behind,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: so they're gonna have to pass it a little bit,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: and it's just not going to take much for those
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: guys to pay off the salary Born Robinson sky Moore mvs.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: So you can play them. I mean, I'm gonna have
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: them all in my player pool. And then again, it
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: just comes down to roster construction and you just have
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: to be willing to have a lot of money on
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: the table today. That conversation is obviously even more important
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: on FanDuel. Or you throw in all these value plays
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: and then a one thousand dollars quarterback and you know,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: we've kind of touched down a little bit. I mean,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: we'll go to the FanDuel segment at the end and
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: break it down a little bit more, but I mean
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: it just really makes the fandual game and contest tonight
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: just way less appealing. I Mean, you can think you're
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: a genius and think you know how to combat it,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: but like, at the end of the day, of a
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars quarterback, what's it going to take for him
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: to not be on the optimal Probably he'd have to
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: he'd have to score like six fantasy points probably tonight
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: seven fantasy points. Like can the starting quarterback do that?
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I mean maybe, I mean even if he scores five,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: he could potentially be on the winter. So that's like
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: conversation will hit on at the end. But we have
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: a lot of options that wide receiver. They're all cheap.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: I do think the ownership probably gets spread out a
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: little bit. I mean, Kendrick Bourne is the one that
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: probably gets it because gets the ownership because he is
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: the one that's labeled as the wide receiver right now.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: And you know that's kind of ra A lot of
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: guys you can play here.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, only one was born yesterday, and Jordan Shippington is
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: what we're gonna call him because Jordan Whittington's birthday was yesterday.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: So if you guys want the birthday narrative, there it is.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I think he caught a ball last week or so.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: He was in the mix at least or a minute
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I saw watching that game and falling along heavy for
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: all the Stafford love. So I think that's at least
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: somewhat interesting. But yeah, you know the question. The chat
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: title is on tight end, so it's a good segue. Anyway,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: It's been talked about with Jake Tong's last week he
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: was used and played fine, and then obviously you've got
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Davis Allen on the other side. People are talking about
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: is he going to get the first touchdown? And you
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: know people always want to play these backup tight ends.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: What are you doing at the tight end position or
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts there?
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I do just want to say the Whittington stuff,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: not only birthday all that, but he, I mean, his
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: snaps went way up last week. In Week four, they
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: were in a lot more eleven personnel with three wide
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: receivers two two had the game. I mean he had
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: one catch, he just absolutely took it. After that, but
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: Whittington out snapped him by a lot, so I I
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: think Whittington is very interesting at the wide receiver position.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Tight end Tongs is clearly my favorite. It's just like
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: he's on the field a bunch. He's not that bad. Ever,
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: since Kittle went down, they had to turn to someone else.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: It clearly has been Jake Tongs. He runs around on
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: a lot of stuff. Luke Farrell more a blocker, They
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: run some twelve personnel and stuff too. Now, no Juwan no, Ricky.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Maybe they do just want to run the football, play action,
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: get bigger guys in. So I think Farrell's fine, but
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: it feels like you're really hoping for I don't know,
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: literally probably a touchdown, which I don't even know what
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: the odds are. I'd have to pull it up. We
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: have so many lower guys the sky, more's the receivers.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: I would rather take a chance on plenty of other
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: guys than Farrell. Toms By far my favorite tight end, though,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: Davis Allen, Kobe Parkinson. I mean, when Stafford literally just
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: throws the two guys, it's really not usually these two.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: So I don't love many tight ends at all outside
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: of Tongs.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: The problem to me, Hoop, I'll go to you on
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: tight end is that, like there's just so many value
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: plays on the late that it's gonna come down to.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Just which one ends up on the optimal. Because you
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: could be sitting.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: There all day with your boy MBS, who's got like
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: a nice little eight point score or something for twenty
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: six hundred.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: You're doing just fine. However, the game's going whatever that
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: looks like, and then all of a sudden.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Boom, Colby Parkinson comes up over the top bang ten
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: points at the end of the game, the way it
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: works with a touchdown late or something like that, and
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: that just you know, hits everything. And so yeah, don't
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: be celebrating your money until the very end of this one.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: But I don't know, do you have anything else you
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: want to add at tight end?
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: No, same mindset. It's like, if I'm going to play
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: a backup tight end and feel confident about it, I
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: want the regular tight end to be a guy that
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: typically gets a lot of work. And that's like not
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: the case with Higbee. Like Higbee, they've barely been using
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: him at all. Like, how am I going to bank
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: on the backups now all of a sudden getting the
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: attention to Matthew Stafford Probably just not gonna happen. I'll
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: have these guys in my playerpool, but I'm not gonna
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: make like a big move on them and play them
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: at a big rate. I definitely prefer the San fran
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: pass catcher over these guys, and I think Tongs is
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: a great play at forty two hundred.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, before we go to the Kickers, d's
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: anything you want to do there? We got the Golden
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Ship at number fifteen coming up, but we got to
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: get to one hundred likes before we give out the
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: first one, and we got the winners. The winners are drawn,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: so if you want to get to those winners almost
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: two hundred watching now got to get from fifty likes.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: We give away fifty thousand dollars and we have fifty likes.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: It's not that hard, right. We talked about it a ton,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: but you got to hit it.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: So title I'll go to you, Kickers D, anything there
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: that stands out.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: The big thing I think.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: The talking point of the slate is what people keep
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: mentioning is around this rams D, people are already lobbying
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: for them and the captain and all these different factors.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: What do you think of with the the rams D
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: and then the other guys at these positions Kickers and D.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean finally, Kickers, I guess they're going up
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: a little in price, defenses are going down. It's there's
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: no way though that the rams shall only be two
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: hundred dollars more than the Niners. Like, I'm not saying
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: they ca a one v one pivot by any means.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Your your team should tell the story of the game script.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: But they're gonna be like we have a seventeen percent
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: ownership gets updated throughout the day, et cetera. Yeah, like
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Coop said, there's no doubt it's going to be higher
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: than that. Whereas we have the Niners at ten, I
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: think there's no doubt that they're going to be lower
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: than that. If you have the just say the RAMS
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: do come in seventeen percent, I would want to be overweight.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: We talk about your inputs or your outputs with Saber
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: all that. Let's see the RAMS are thirty percent. My
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: teams would look a lot different with them projected at
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: thirty percent than them at seventeen percent. So ownership's really
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: hard again. Ours get updated throughout, but you yourself, if
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: you play long enough, you're watching these shows, you have
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: the ability to change that, and that will change the
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: outputs of your lineups. I think they're going to be
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: a lot higher. I still don't think they're a bad
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: play Mac Jones can't really run. They're without so many receivers.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: It's just when I play Rams, I'll expect them to
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: be chalkier than they're showing. So I'll try and get
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: different in a spot something like that. The Kyron Kien
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: Captain Rams Defense something like that. Maybe it just they
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: get up early. Kiren scores the first two. They don't
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: need to drop back as much. You can play Blake
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Corman that lineup, because then you think it gets out
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: of hand. So many different ways to do it. But
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: what stands out? And I'll play whatever For the Kickers,
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: I'll play in both, no problems with it at all.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: But the Rams, the Niners being so close in price,
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: just what do you guys think the ownership is going
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: to be. I'll throw it back to that.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: What do you got Rams? Yeah, Rams, DM guessing probably
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: like thirty three percent, somewhere in that range. And always,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: I mean this spot, we've talked about it a ton,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: and uh, you know, I'll take my l's if needed.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: But like we've always been right on these situations where
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: these big home favorites that are favored by a lot,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: their their ownership is always much higher than anyway anticipates,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: not only in the Flex but also in the Captain.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: People are talking about it, the risk you run with playing.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: And the one thing about this situation, the pricing on
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: the slate came out before all those guys were ruled out.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: So the defense is only four K. It's not like
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: they knew they built this pricing on the assumption of
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: those guys being out in the RAMS favored by nine
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: to nine and a half. Four K is nothing. So
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: they're gonna be very popular. They're gonna be popular in
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: the Captain. Like we always say, when you play these
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: cheap captains, a lot of times, just by default, you
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: have a very similar looking lineup to everybody else. It's
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: gonna include Puka, it's gonna include CMC, it's gonna include
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: probably Stafford or Kyron Williams, and it just looks like
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: all these other teams. So if you are doing it,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: just be careful with how the roster construction looks, because
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: it's easy just to fall in that trap and start building,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: you know, a RAMS Captain team. If you're doing that,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: a lot of people will naturally repair it with maybe
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Kyron Williams, and then they're gonna have CMC, and then
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: you're at like eight grand. At that point, who do
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: you include, Uh, you know, maybe Stafford? Sure, yeah, you
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: get Pooka in there. So it's like they just start
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: to look very very similar. So if you are going
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: that route, I'm probably not I mean, if I do,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: it would be a little bit maybe, but if you are,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: just just be careful with and I do think the
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: RAMS defense probably ends up like thirty three percent would
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: be my guess. I mean, the only thing that could
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: save them though, is all those wide receivers and backup
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: running backs are all right in that same price range,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: So that would be the one way it doesn't get there.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: But I do think it is popular. And then Cardi
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I like a kicker as well, and I'm glad they
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: brought up the price a little bit on the kickers
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: because you know, when they're under five k it's just
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: way too cheap, you know, mid fives. It makes the
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: decision a little bit more. But yeah, I'm in on
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Cardi for sure.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely think you made a really good point
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: on the total spend of salary and whatnot. Obviously we
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: talk a ton about it, and that's like a main
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: point when you get to slates like.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: This, But that can change things.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I would have the rams D coming in closer to
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: like twenty to twenty five range, just because I think
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be decisions that are made where people just
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: will move off because what's gonna happen here. You nailed
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: it is people are gonna want to spend their money
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: and that's just how it's gonna go.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: And because the defenses have come down a little, like.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: In that four K range, you've got born for forty
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: six hundred, you got DeMarcus Robinson, you got MBS, you
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: got at Well, you got all these different ways you
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: can go. Then I think we'll pull from it a
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: little bit. But I also think back to like the
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Rams Captain thing. You said, anyone who does it, you
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: can easily fit Pooka and McCaffrey. So you only really
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: got three spots to get different, and you just backed
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: yourself into a pretty big corner. So you got to
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: think about that when you're building differently as well, and
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: be willing to leave a bunch of money on the table,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: especially if you want to just in general, if you
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: want to get unique, but also like you'll have a chance.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: To actually win all the money.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Like it's so top heavy and so yeah, like the
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: chat keeps saying like this, like you know so many
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: unknown variables. Somebody else said, like you know.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: That's good for showdown though that's what you want. I mean, really,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: that's what that's what you want. You want a bunch
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: of unknown variables in a game like that's how you
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: have the chance to, you know, win more money if
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: you do win. Like title what you're saying, it's not
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: when you win, it's how much you win when you win,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: or something along those lines.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: You when you win, how much do you win?
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: You Yeah, when there's a lot of unknown variables that
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: you know that that amount that you win can potentially increase.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, every game, go ahead them.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say this is the same one watch
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: we all get banned that no one knows that. That's
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: why if you're watching shows and people try and tell
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: you they know everything, it's the worst.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: We know how to play dfs. We've had success playing it.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Tons of our community has and a lot of them
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: are in the chat helping us through it and talking
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: together on this stuff.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: All you can do is build good lineups.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: The outcomes will happen like we don't know. And that's
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: why someone we like to have takes and we do
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: try and give you the stuff that you can use
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: to your advantage. But anybody out there telling you, like
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: the we got winners, and we got takes, and we
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: got all this stuff. It's like nobody knows shit until
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: the end of the game, and that's when it happens.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Then somebody got it right.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: But a lot of the people that get it right,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: and the ones you see get it right most often
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: are the ones that are playing the game. So what
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: we're talking through is scenarios and ways to build that
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: can put you in that position to be able to
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: get to the top and have it go your way.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: That's that's all people can do, and that's what we
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: focus on one hundred percent.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and some games you think are easier to read,
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: and some games feel like they are, but then you
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: watch the game and you're reminded and humbled real quick.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: You really don't know shit. I mean, who had Tyler
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: Warren projected for two red zone carries when they got
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: down to the red zone? Who had a forget? Who
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: was it a big boy screen like an offensive lineman?
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: They threw a screen to him in the red zone
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: he got down to the one yard line. Like, I
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: watched games every single Sunday, and I'm like, well, I
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: thought I knew this clearly. The coaches and them see
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: it some different ways. So yeah, what you think you
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: know and even if you think you do know it,
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: most people are probably thinking the same thing, which comes
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: back to Tambusane. We're playing a different game then predicting.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: If you really think they win by eight and a
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: half today, just go better. Do you really think this
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: guy gets a touchdown? Go do that. There's so many
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: layers in our game and a lot of it. When
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: you win, how much do you win?
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we want to play for the most money possible.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: So I love Slate's like this. This is like, it's
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: not a it's almost the opposite. Is this an exciting
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: NFL game tonight?
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: It could be. Sometimes these terrible games are the best ones.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: But it's not about that.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: It's I like this a lot more for Showdown, when
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: we have a bunch of different ways that we can
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: build where you kind of know it's going to be
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: unique because other people aren't willing to make some of
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: these sacrifices, or to build accordingly, or to review their
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: lineups before they're entered to see are they backing themselves
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: into a corner in all these places. So you know,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I'm willing to take some of these shots, like title says,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: and get a bit different.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: That way, just to add on to that conversation a
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: little bit. I think a lot of people are unwilling
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: to admit the fact that there's a little thing called
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: luck involved in all this as well. Like you can
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: be right about absolutely everything on this slate and you
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: still have to get a little bit lucky. You're competing
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: with eighty eight thousand people tonight, so no matter what
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: you think you know and the vaaly you can pick
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: all the winners and this and that and all that bullshit. Like,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: there's a factor called luck, and a lot of people
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: don't want to admit that it exists in this It does,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: so that's one to add that up.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, anybody who follows the sports betting world knows
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: how you know, the top guys of the best sports
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: betting get our picks and then you go look up
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: and they can still put five brand on a on
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: a bet and everything else. Really, like anyone I know
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: who's actually winning that's not necessarily going their way depending
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: on how that looks. So it's just little things like that.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: You know, Ricky Pearsol's here, he's not playing a night,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: but he's in the chat.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: But we're pulling for it. Good starts the season.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, get it together. Ricky uh says, you know Kieran
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: and Korum together. Somebody asked it earlier. You definitely can
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: play those guys together, especially if that's your your builds
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: telling a story, right, you can.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: You can definitely play that. And Steven says this, I
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: kind of said this earlier.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: That's what circles me back a little bit to it
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: to say, like, I don't think he's good, but he's
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: good enough for this game.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: It could definitely happen.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: And if if one guy's gonna spread it out, I
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: just I have my Stafford call.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: The other day again it worked out.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: It's just my call wasn't Stafford as much as like,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: if you're doing this, this would be a way to
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: get different with it. And that's what I'm saying about
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: not knowing the take. It's the DFS angle of if
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: you're doing this, you might as well do this. That's
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: a way to get different within the field. And by
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: the way, Hoop, you didn't win all the money last
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: week stacking on some extra Stafford, but there was somebody.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: In Michigan that won the money.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Our guy Jay Walk in seventeen Life Change, you score
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: one hundred dollars single entry into one hundred. K was
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: super pumped about that member over at ship at Nation.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Congrats again to him. That was just awesome to see.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: But like this is the whole point. So if you
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: want to go different tonight, like I said, mac Jones
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: would be the quarterback, I'd feel a little bit better
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: about up top.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Even if it's a three to three.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: What if it's like mac Jones CMC and someone with
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: three big dogs from the other side.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. It's just it's a different style
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: of build.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: It's still a starting quarterback, and if the game does
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: somehow play lower scoring or a little bit tighter than
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: we might think, there most certainly is an opportunity there
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: where that could be the case. Titled you got any
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: other thoughts on this before we get to the FanDuel stuff?
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Not really just no. I mean, Puka Simac clearly project
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: the best, clearly the best plays, but it's only the
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: Slay's even easier to play him because of all the
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: injuries and all the viable low price options. So I'm
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: gonna be playing a lot of the chalk guys so
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: I think are the best when you play them. Build
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: the script. How if I'm playing McCaffrey up top, I'm
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: thinking it's a kind of a closer game because it
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: begets out of hand, there is worry he gets pulled
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: and always but do not be afraid to leave money
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: on the table and showdown.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I like that call too.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I think people are keeping the I
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: know the chat's talking about this stuff like what if
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: CMC gets injured I brought up earlier. I think it's
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: way more likely that they just throw it in the
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: towel that in that game script if I'm building lineups
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: for that game script. But I'm saying that's the other thing.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of this is another reason I
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: love this slate. A lot of people building the five
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: ones the four two's are just auto gonna land on
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: McCaffrey because they'll have the money. But that's where you
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: see a lineup with like forty three thousand win because
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: it's like they took CMC, just dropped him to DeMarcus
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Robinson or Born or something. It's like he's the one
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: that was needed in that lineup, not CMC. But you
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: had the money to spend. You're like, how did this
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: guy beat this guy? At this number like he should
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: always crush him like it happens. We've seen aj Brown,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: We've seen Jamar Chase, we seen bad games out of
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: these superstars. There's no reason that he might not get
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: to that tonight. Or it could just be a different
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: build style, could be him and somebody else in a
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: four to two or a three three or something like that.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: So I definitely think there's a chance here that we
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: could see that. And then Derek says Corham score tonight again,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: play him in DFS, bet them whatever you want to do.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: If you got that take, I would definitely.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Be in man. I mean he's got he got four
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: targets last back. I don't know the exact game strip
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: there in last week, but four targets, eight or nine carries,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: like that's a legitimate great game. Yeah right right, who
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: was it? Yeah?
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: Walked it off?
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're in a battle and that that
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: man got double digit touches. Yeah, So you.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Know, there's there's all different ways you can look at me.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: He's certainly affordable. But again, you can play him and Williams.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: Together two of the two weeks ago. But that was
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: who was it last week?
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: That they were bad Yeah, they were battling for sure.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Indeed, Mitchell drop down and Warren got goal one carries.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: It was a great mob Mitchell, Oh my gosh.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: That's so dumb. I can't I can't stand that. Like, literally,
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: you have one job, hang on to the damn ball
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: and move on.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: How is this still happening here twenty twenty five, almost
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. It's nuts, Like, you have one freaking job,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: just hang on to the touchdown. And he definitely, I
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: mean our guy Jay Walking got away with it. That
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: was he was in his build and I used in
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: a bunch of places to speed that game up. That
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: was another quick back and forth. It would have helped
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones more would have pushed it. But either way,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: still a great game and a good result for many.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: So love to see that. Anything else. Who if you
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: got final thoughts, So we do the little fan duel
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: run around.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: We got about seventy five likes, twenty five likes more
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: to go and then we'll get to the ship of
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: games winners.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: So if you're a membership of a nation, you should
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: have definitely.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Hit the like because you could literally be about to
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: win a chance to play for fifty grand plus. But
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: other than that, if you're here watching, you'd like the
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: free stuff that we do takes two seconds. Just make
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: sure you hit the thumbs up, not the heart, it's
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: the thumbs up underneath the screen on your thing. I
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: just saw three more hearts fly on the screen. I
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: think that's where people are broken. You hit the thumbs
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: up button under the screen that says the number.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Who my final thoughts, Uh yeah, I mean it's one
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: of those slates like you should you should look.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: At your team and want to pute right, Like you
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: should look at your team when it's all say for
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: handbuilding or whatever, you're looking at your portfolio, you should
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: look at these teams and say, man, this looks looks ugly.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Like that's I guess the last piece of advice we
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: talked about some of these main slates where everyone just
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: has all star teams. Who's are pricing so soft with
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: all these injuries tonight, Like you should you should look
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: at your team and be like, that's that's kind of
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: gross and then just and then just play it on FanDuel.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Definitely skewed tonight with Mac Jones being a thousand if
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: you play them in the MVP fifteen hundred. You know,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: for me personally, if you're playing on FanDuel, I think
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: you should just include them in all your teams, like
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: just go one hundred percent. I mean, he's gonna end
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: up being probably close to one hundred percent owned. But
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: it's like for him to not be on the optimal
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: team tonight, he probably has to get hurt in like
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: the first quarter, and I guess it's possible, but I mean,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: you know, I guess it's definitely possible. But I would
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: just play them, but you know, be careful, like how
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: you play them if you're playing them in the Captain.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not just leaving like a couple of
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars on the table, it's like thousands, and just
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: make some of those pivots drop down to uncomfortable spots.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be the only way to do it. It's it's
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: really unfortunate that you know, not only they did this,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: but they had a ton of time to potentially correct it.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Like you look at MMA, like they'll, you know, bring
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: guys in on twenty four hour notice, like guys that
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: are late replacements.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: It's because they don't change the second they change or anything.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: Then they have to read like MMA, they don't change
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: the price. They'll add someone that but like sometimes that's
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: the reason they don't want to lose out on any
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: people that join.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: We've seen in baseball before where it was like a
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: three thousand dollar guy that they put for like three
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars a couple.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: Of years ago. Yeah, when he was like, oh, for fifty.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: I think they did that for three though, but then
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: they did do one. We were talking pre show, like
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: a three, three, two nine, like the most random numbers.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: Who I can't remember who that was.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I definitely think, like you know, just that
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: it's just it's certainly to me, it's like just that
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: one lineup that's so bad obviously on FanDuel, Like that's
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: gonna everyone's gonna tell on themselves tonight whoever plays that build,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: because it's even I don't care what it comes out as,
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: like it's obviously pretty.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize, like you play that team and it's
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: like one hundred dollars left on the table. I mean
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: you put it. It's no secret. I mean everyone's posted
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: it all over social media. You put them in the captain,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: you can play the next five highest priced guys and
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: you have one hundred dollars almost zeros out, Like that
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: team will be the most duke team in the history
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: of FanDuel Showdown. I mean, there's just no doubt about it.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: You probably good because it requires like nuts of everybody
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: else to have those ceiling games, and you know somebody
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: else is gonna so he's not going to likely to
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: be MVP unless.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: If it hits and you match up the contest, you're
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: gonna lose money. Like if it hits, you're not going
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: to make anything.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing crazy. I gotta tell these people.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: I just googled it too.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: By the way, the heart spammers, I think it's funny,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: but they ban you that YouTube ops in on that.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: That's like spamming, so they definitely get you for that.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: So i'd be careful with the heart spamming. If it's
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: an honest mistake, that's I can't get you back though.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: We don't have any outs or ins with YouTube to
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: be able to get you back in the game, So
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: keep careful on that. I will say, maybe try you
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: know something different, but if you haven't.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: Hit the thumbs up, do so.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Now we got two ship of Games Winners to announce title.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Any final thoughts before we get to the ship of
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Games Winners, anything else you want to bring up.
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: That is am I optimal on fandel I xed out
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: mac Jones and the Flex and Captain. Just see how
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: much I'd be given up fifteen points in projection, you're
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: giving up not playing, So that just shows like, yeah.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: A plan in flex, but not in MVP.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's very viable. You're not giving that much.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I think that's the play. To me, It's like, I
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: don't think it's that bad of a slate. Everyone's like, oh,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: it's so bad. First of all, there's so many people
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: that are going to play that line up just for
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: the laughs, And it's like, that's just horrible in that
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: in the large field stuff, particularly because I don't care
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: what it projects out at and how good it is.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: If it hits, you could still lose money on the slate.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: So there's that.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: But the other thing is it's just so much more viable,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: like you said, like there's a ton of options there
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: where you just leave three grand, four grand on the table,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: still use mac Jones in the In the Flex and
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: get Away, you have six spots like nic.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: I prefer that, to be honest, I prefer playing these
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: other guys, even Stafford, like he's always the easier play
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: on FanDuel than DraftKings with the half point. But I
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: I'd much rather play any of those guys. You can
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: still play Mac in the flex still know when you
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: do that, though, you gotta get different leave money because
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: Mac Jones is yeah, yeah, that's all we got.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: So good?
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: All right, that's what I was laughing at, yelling fam
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: all right, hoop, any any file tops move for get.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: To these winners. No, no, let's locking these winners and
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: see who the next victim is of the Hoop head
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: to head.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: Oh man, I got the bed. This is so good,
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: all right.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: The Golden Ship at number fifteen winner that will play
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Hoop in a head to head with the four and
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: oh record on the line.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: This week, the winner is.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Matt Matt saw your record down by one, four to
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: one incoming.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: Let's see what you got, Matt Sawyer. Matt Sawyer gets
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: the job done.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: So hoop, any any words you want to say to
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Matt this week He's going to be up against you.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Bring it. I mean, the over under continues to rise
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: each and every week. I mean, keep picking up these ws.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: The I mean the over under to start the year
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: was nine and a half. I mean, it's got to
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: be like eleven and a half now, so I.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Think it's only ten and a half. Man, I think
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: some people.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Are we got a thing, all right, Well, yeah, bring
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: your a game. I'll be ready to roll. At least
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: be better than aids. I mean again, I love going
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: back to the Nage story where it literally took me
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: ten seconds to beat it.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: He took me ten seconds. It was like the last
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: play of the game. The guy gets a catch and
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: then Hoop wins and he's the guy. I owned this
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: guy dustin him in ten seconds. So all right, well
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: we've got Matt Sawyer is the first winner. And then
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: this is a fun one.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Again it's all random draw, but I thought this was
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: awesome to see because I know this guy has definitely
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: been a member for a while. But Golden Ship it
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: number sixteen, the share Ship winner.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: The winner is Adam Teal, and I think it's like
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: a Teal in the discord. I definitely seen that name.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: So this gets passed along. The team in the back
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: end runs all the stuff and it's like, hey, here's
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: your winners.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I saw that, I was like, oh shit, ateal, so
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: this is awesome. Congrats to Adam. Reach out and discord
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Man hit me up. We're gonna get a lineup. It
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: is the five fifty five million maker this week, by
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: the way, so we're back at it again with that,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna be playing for a million dollars. Adam
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: can win one hundred k right out of the gate
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: and add five hundred K to the grand prize school
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: which currently sits at seventy nine thou two hundred and
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: sixty seven. And if you guys want to join, like
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: we talked about, get involved in Ship of Games. You're
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: still involved the minute you get in for a month
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: or more, but the five days for nineteen dollars is
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: the way to go. And you hop in five days
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: for nineteen dollars with code ship nineteen. It's any all
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: access monthly plan. Is what you can use that on
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: is if you want to try out the contest sims,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: it's the three hundred and twenty one dollars a month plan.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: You put in Ship nineteen. You get it for nineteen dollars,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: but it will renew, so make sure you keep.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: That in mind.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: If you're checking out the starter plan, you can get
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: in for nineteen dollars for five days.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: That's going to include there's the Night Football all.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Of Sunday, the International Game, the Sunday Night Football Game,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: the Monday Night Football Game, MMA, College Football, NASCAR Showdown, Golf,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Baseball playoffs.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: I think I got them all. Maybe I didn't, but
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: that's man.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: We got a lot of stuff going on right now,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: and it's really just about checking out the discord.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: The course is the education, all the stuff you want
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: and more. It's there the Rio Sheet show.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: If you want to really learn how to use Saber
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: sims to your advantage, that's a huge add on that
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: only members get.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: So a ton of different reasons.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Who if you got one liner for nineteen bucks, what
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: what can you do with nineteen dollars?
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: I was gonna stay in regards to like the five days,
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: like five days I had something earlier. I can't remember
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: though now. It was like five to stay alive in
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: the DFS streets or something like that. I mean, it
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: was really corny and you would have made fun of me,
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: so I just I buried it. I buried it right away.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: All right. That's what about you.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: Got the one liner, I don't think of the stuff
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: in the shower. You got Hoop thinking of these stuff.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: And now it's going as soon as he said it.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: Because he said something early on, I kind of had
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: a little add onto it, but like I don't know,
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: and it would get laughed off the stage.
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: I do got a question for Hoopster, though you're talking
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: some playoff baseball was winning.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Today, not the Tigers. Tigers, the Adien even though the
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Cleveland lineup looks like completely they can't hit, like they
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: literally can't get.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: Neither of those two teams can't. I will say, what,
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: these dudes can't catch five balls. I've been watching plenty
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: of playoffs. Yeah baseball ti Oscar Duran, Yeah, center fielder
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: for the Guardians. I mean, these dudes, I get the pressure,
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: but we gotta we got to catch some five balls.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: I agree with you, bad outfield play, like the Tigers
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: are hitting man. They can't.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: They can just need four school balls on your team.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the only hope. Tigers are dust man. And
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: then I'll pick my owlers. I've already taken the l
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: on the golf stuff, like I'm not a pussy like
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: these other dudes that make a call and they can
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: never circle back and take the owl. I claim the
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Lions were dead after week one. I took the l
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: last week. I'll keep taking the owls. Golfers look great.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: They give him time. He's looked amazing, like big big owl.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: I'm back to wearing the Lions gear. I don't care.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: I've taken that.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Keep it up though, like when if they fall apart again,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: I don't want to see you take, you know, changing
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: up on.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Your squad to I might.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. I'm setting up this new office
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: and I'm putting up raven ship and I'm like, man,
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: I should just take that ship.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, here right.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Now is a Ravens fan. It's not looking good and
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: this week doesn't look any better. If they lose to Houston,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: I don't care, backup or not, it's still not a
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: good scene. And also I saw a little birthday watch earlier.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: It's either I think it's tomorrow is CJ. Stroud's birthday,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: so he might go off this weekend too, just have
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: a little birthday bash on the Baltimore Ravens.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: But we'll have to wait and see that changed it up.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people were looking at you know,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: the pool stuff and looking at the survivor and.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: Everything with that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the ravens are you know. We got to
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  Speaker 1: save them for later and hope they get healthy and
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: get back to it with the easier schedule later in
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: the season. But lots of stuff you could do this week.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Our man sheets covered all that and rolled through it
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  Speaker 1: all right. Appreciate you guys, Thank you so much for watching.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a fun slate tonight. I think it's
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: gonna be a good one. We could see another unique
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: shipper up top because of the way the pricing sets
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: up and leaving the money on the table and all that.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: So I'm excited from that perspective for Whoop for title
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: for myself to Tech and tambou Let ship it.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Most of her names
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  Speaker 4: Was he Bays