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Chuck in the Morning 8-12 Hour 2: 12th Man News with Gregg Bell, ABC's of the Mariners and Reckless at Breakfast · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: The trajectory of this story.
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  Speaker 2: Man, was that unfortunate.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's not good.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, uh, you know that's for me. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm awful self. That's uh, this is what this just
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  Speaker 2: gotta got my way to be better and to hope,
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  Speaker 2: you know, bring it off. Guys long and they, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we just got a player. I mean, ultimately
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  Speaker 2: we're just playing very very very that's.
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  Speaker 4: Ballin h.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, great Wednesday morning to you, Happy home day. It
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  Speaker 5: is Chuck Plin Ashley Ryan with you.
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  Speaker 2: That the voice of cal Raleigh.
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  Speaker 5: Being peppered with questions by Ryan Davis. Very nosy, very
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  Speaker 5: nosy person by nature of that guy. Uh and cal
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  Speaker 5: Raleigh he threw himself on the sword last night after
• 1:03
  Speaker 5: another Mariner's loss. I'm awful, he said, sadly, he's not wrong,
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  Speaker 5: which we're gonna get into a little bit later on
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  Speaker 5: in the hour. But the Mariners did lose the game,
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  Speaker 5: and it was a joint effort. They lost to the
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  Speaker 5: Yankees four to one. Brian Woo was sensational for five
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  Speaker 5: innings but was taken out after the fifth. Jose Ferrara,
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  Speaker 5: even better than the sixth, was taken out after the sixth.
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  Speaker 5: Dan Wilson brought in Michael Rucker, who has struggled in
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  Speaker 5: these situations since birth, and the Yankees scored four times
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  Speaker 5: in the seventh inning, and of course that's way too
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  Speaker 5: much for the Mariners offense to overcome. So it's another loss,
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  Speaker 5: four to one the final score. We appreciate the audio there.
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  Speaker 5: Do I credit anybody for that kind of o Painton
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  Speaker 5: myself in that corner over the internet. Mariners are fifty
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  Speaker 5: six and sixty four on the season, now four and
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  Speaker 5: a half games back of the Houston Astros, four games
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  Speaker 5: back in the wild Card. There on three teams in
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  Speaker 5: the entire American League that have a worse record than
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  Speaker 5: the Mariners right now. They will try to solve their
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  Speaker 5: issues tonight with Bryce Miller taking the mound at Yankee
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  Speaker 5: Stadium against right hander Will Warren first pitches at four
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  Speaker 5: to five. We will certainly talk more about the Mariners
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  Speaker 5: coming up a little bit later on in the show.
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  Speaker 5: But some other headlines brought to you by Frostbrewed Corps.
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  Speaker 5: Light Husky's camp continues in the National Football League. Kobe
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  Speaker 5: Bryant out for the season for his new team, the
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  Speaker 5: Chicago Bears. It looks like four to six months, so
• 2:32
  Speaker 5: could be out for the season. The Vikings have chosen
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  Speaker 5: Kyler Murray over JJ McCarthy said this before. I think
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  Speaker 5: the real story here is how early they made that
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  Speaker 5: decision in camp, not that they did make that decision
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  Speaker 5: in camp. And Seahawks training camp, of course continues. We
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  Speaker 5: get ready for a game, a preseason game on Saturday
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  Speaker 5: at five o'clock at home against the Dallas Cowboys, to
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  Speaker 5: talk about that Hard Knocks Nicky men, Warri and Terry
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  Speaker 5: and Arnold, We welcome to the show our Seahawks Insider.
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  Speaker 6: As part of our continuing NFL coverage for the twelfth Man.
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  Speaker 3: From morning, Greg, good morning.
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  Speaker 5: Uh, all right, what'd you think of Hard Knocks last night?
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  Speaker 5: Enjoy it, have a good time with it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, interesting, Yeah, Probably the most interesting thing for
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  Speaker 1: me being out there every day is because of the music.
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  Speaker 1: The fans of most of the music we can't hear
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  Speaker 1: right when Mike McDonald erupts, we currently see it, so
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  Speaker 1: it's interesting to hear it. Yeah, and how he says
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  Speaker 1: what he says to Derek Hall, and how he makes
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  Speaker 1: up to him and smooths it over by the end
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  Speaker 1: and turns out I'm the one in charge of the
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  Speaker 1: f in practice. Yeah, yeah, that's all little leadership Clemson,
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  Speaker 1: the Mike McDonald, the news of it.
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  Speaker 5: No, I'm just gonna say, it's kind of like getting
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  Speaker 5: like nobody wants to watch movies and close captioning until
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  Speaker 5: you reach a certain age, and then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 5: you start watching with close captioning and you can't live
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  Speaker 5: without it because you pick up on so much more
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  Speaker 5: that you missed from the movie or the television show.
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  Speaker 5: And what's odd last night is I was watching Hard
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  Speaker 5: Knocks and for some reason I didn't have my close
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  Speaker 5: caption I had it on the second TV, and I
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  Speaker 5: had the remote was too far away from me, and
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  Speaker 5: I was too lazy, so I didn't put on the
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  Speaker 5: close captioning, and and so I felt I missed some
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  Speaker 5: stuff from the episode last night not having that on.
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  Speaker 3: But you getting the audio.
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  Speaker 5: That goes with Mike McDonald's rants, I would imagine is
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  Speaker 5: like getting close captioning and realizing a big part of
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  Speaker 5: the movie that you wish you could have heard up
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  Speaker 5: close in personal right.
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  Speaker 1: And I have a good idea now after this, being
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  Speaker 1: the third yearch room, how he leads, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: always see how he acts it out and carries it
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  Speaker 1: out and in the moment. I definitely don't during the
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  Speaker 1: season because we don't have access to any of the
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  Speaker 1: practice during the season. So that is interesting to me.
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  Speaker 1: And it's a carrot and stick approach in real time,
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  Speaker 1: within the same realm of the punishment and the mending
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  Speaker 1: it as a leader studies, leadership has studies, it's for
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  Speaker 1: West Point days. It's so fascinating to me because the
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  Speaker 1: carrot approach works only if I mean, the stick approach
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  Speaker 1: works only if you have a carrot, and the carrot
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  Speaker 1: approach works when you have a stick. And McDonald's bitten
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  Speaker 1: better by the months at doing both, and he was
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  Speaker 1: not that forceful his first year. I'm certain of that,
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  Speaker 1: even though I wasn't hearing the practices then either. But
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  Speaker 1: now he's established one. My system works, my way works,
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  Speaker 1: and now he knows the players and he knows when
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  Speaker 1: to push him and how far. And he know in
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  Speaker 1: his teammates, for that matter, know how far they can
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  Speaker 1: push Derek Hall by now, he's in his fourth year.
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  Speaker 1: They've just given him a forty two million dollar contract.
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  Speaker 1: They know him very well and they know how far
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  Speaker 1: they can push him before they would lose him or
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  Speaker 1: that he would get ticked off and just tune him out.
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  Speaker 1: And they also know how to get him back, and
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  Speaker 1: McDonald in particular, and that's frankly one of the reasons
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  Speaker 1: they chose him over Boy Moffitt. I mean, when you
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  Speaker 1: know a guy and that's why you make investments like
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  Speaker 1: they just made the off season to be able to
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  Speaker 1: have moments like that. It also speaks to the fragility
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  Speaker 1: and the value of quarterbacks in the NFL, does it not.
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  Speaker 1: I mean the second one, he wasn't all that close
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  Speaker 1: to Sam Donald on the second one, but because he
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  Speaker 1: had already warned him once, he used that as a
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  Speaker 1: coaching moment. I bet looking back at the tape he
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  Speaker 1: probably thought, well, yeah, he wasn't really putting Donald in
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  Speaker 1: danger that second time, but he just used it as
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  Speaker 1: an example for the whole team that if you can
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  Speaker 1: call out a forty two million dollars starting Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: champion linebacker and everybody's going to stay clear of getting
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  Speaker 1: near the quarterback so they can avoid injury. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the inside ball stuff that was interesting. They see it
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  Speaker 1: all the time. I just I'm trying to guess at
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  Speaker 1: how he's dealing with and now I get to see it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Hall has definitely come across as the star of
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  Speaker 5: the show so far, and I think Seayork fans will
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  Speaker 5: some out there pretty turned off. I don't see it
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  Speaker 5: that way, don't. I don't see any reason to like
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  Speaker 5: Derek Hall less than when this show started.
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  Speaker 4: What about you no not knowing where he came from,
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  Speaker 4: and his whole story of being declared medically dead when
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  Speaker 4: he was born at two pounds nine ounces, and the
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  Speaker 4: passion and his.
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  Speaker 1: Mother and as he told us on my show We
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  Speaker 1: Can Half for two weeks ago, now the dream of
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  Speaker 1: buying his mother his home at her new home with
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  Speaker 1: his rookie contract, he said, now he's the second contract
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  Speaker 1: for the trucks, at the first contract with the mama
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  Speaker 1: and getting her house, the second contracts for my truck,
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  Speaker 1: and he said she understands that. But now I find
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  Speaker 1: Derek Call to be kind of is being portrayed in
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  Speaker 1: these series that there's two sides there. On the field,
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  Speaker 1: he's one man, and off the field he's entirely different.
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  Speaker 1: And I think most of the best players in the
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  Speaker 1: league have to be that way for the job they
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  Speaker 1: have to do.
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  Speaker 5: All right, what was the other thing that stood out
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  Speaker 5: to you? I cut you off earlier, and I'm really
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  Speaker 5: curious where you were going with that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the news. I always I'm starting to say, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: here's the entertainment or the insight part, but then what's
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  Speaker 1: the news of it? Last week, the news of it
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  Speaker 1: was a camera in Devin Witherspoon's car and he got
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  Speaker 1: to just do a monologue about his contract with no
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  Speaker 1: questions asked. And we can get to the questions asked
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  Speaker 1: yesterday we did. I mean, I think that's maybe that
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  Speaker 1: statement right there is all that we're talking about. He
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  Speaker 1: doesn't say about it. Tara and Arnold they went into
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  Speaker 1: depth that I didn't think they were going to go.
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  Speaker 1: But now it puts in the context the Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 1: comments to me when I asked him in the press
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  Speaker 1: conference on Monday about it he was expansive to us,
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  Speaker 1: and we were all surprised that he was that expansive.
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  Speaker 1: But he knew it was about to be on national television.
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  Speaker 1: So credit him for not giving me and everybody else
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  Speaker 1: just well, yeah, we're in on everything, and move on,
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  Speaker 1: watch it on HBO. But I mean, that's basically what
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  Speaker 1: Devil Wathers Food said yesterday his contract. If you want
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: to learn about Devin Willison's contract, you have to subscribe
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  Speaker 1: to HBO. But McDonald told us before the program pretty
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  Speaker 1: much what we found out yesterday. But it was interesting,
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  Speaker 1: I thought the Snyder's in the GM's office talking about, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: can you dive into what other controversial acquisitions there have
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  Speaker 1: been in the NFL. Snyder's already preparing for the blowback.
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  Speaker 1: He's already preparing for the controversy. It was also very
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  Speaker 1: interesting and telling. If you had the close captions on,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you didn't catch it. Yeah, they had a tarry
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  Speaker 1: On Arnold magnet on the depth chart. It was the
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  Speaker 1: only magnet that the name wasn't blurred out for that
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  Speaker 1: was very intentional by the Seahawks. Remember, the Seahawks get
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: about thirty six hours before the show airs, they get
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  Speaker 1: a chance to review it and object to anything they
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  Speaker 1: find to be too revealing or losing a competitive edge.
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  Speaker 1: They wanted Terry on Arnold's name on that magnet. The
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  Speaker 1: magnet is askew diagonal, just immediately to the left of
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  Speaker 1: the rest the cornerbacks who are already on the roster.
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  Speaker 1: The Seahawks have gone so far as to make a
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  Speaker 1: magnet and project him where he would go on the
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  Speaker 1: depth chart, as in the top of it, at the
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  Speaker 1: right cornerback. I found that very intentional. They want Arnold
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  Speaker 1: in his camp to know that the Seahawks are very
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  Speaker 1: much wanting him to sign here, and it's also intentional
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  Speaker 1: to the rest of the league. And Arnold's representatives have
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  Speaker 1: to love that because that's leverage for the New York
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  Speaker 1: Giants who Arnold visiting today, the Saints, who he visited yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: to drive up his price. It's been thought, because of
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  Speaker 1: his eight felonies he's facing, and the fact that he
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: has an arraignment tomorrow, that he would if he does sign,
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  Speaker 1: is allowed to sign in the legal system allows him
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  Speaker 1: to in Florida that he would sign for just above
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: the league minimum or near it. But now the agents
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  Speaker 1: can play the Seahawks off of everybody else that they
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  Speaker 1: go visit to try to drive his price up and
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  Speaker 1: maybe even drive his price up with the Seahawks. But
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  Speaker 1: there's no doubt this is not just kicking the tires
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  Speaker 1: in the video the film with him doing the workout
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  Speaker 1: inside and McDonald watching intently with that and dirty and
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  Speaker 1: all of that. So there's a lot to that, and
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was very intentional by the Seahawks on
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  Speaker 1: how that was portrayed.
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  Speaker 5: At this stage in their relationship. Do they have to
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  Speaker 5: both be completely on board with something like this, Mike
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  Speaker 5: and John or does John get to make a call
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  Speaker 5: because he's could technically outranks Mike McDonald in the organization.
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  Speaker 5: Because my read on it, Greg was that John's trying
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  Speaker 5: to figure out how to do this and how to
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  Speaker 5: do it without ranking the twelves, and Mike's like, I'm
• 12:03
  Speaker 5: not sure we need to do this. That's kind of
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  Speaker 5: the look. That's what I read into it. That might
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  Speaker 5: be completely unfair, but that's what I read into it.
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  Speaker 5: So I would just ask, would they both have to
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  Speaker 5: just say we both have to be one hundred percent
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  Speaker 5: in on this if we're going to do it.
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  Speaker 1: In this case, yes, not all cases, but in this
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  Speaker 1: case yes. In fact, I'd go so far to say
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  Speaker 1: that new ownership needs to be involved in this, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because they're the ones going to be inheriting this. Now,
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: what's tricky about that is the new ownership technically is
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: not allowed to be in the building or technically, by
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  Speaker 1: NFL rule, is not allowed to be involved in anything Seahawks,
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  Speaker 1: not until the sale is approved, but until the money
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: transaction goes through. On the approved sale, the vote is
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  Speaker 1: August twenty sixth in Atlanta of all the team owners.
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  Speaker 1: It's expected to pass that day. But nine point six
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  Speaker 1: billion dollars. You don't just wire this local Western Union office.
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: This takes a little bit of time and the lawyers
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  Speaker 1: and the vetting of the counts and the investors and
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: the co investors and minority investors, all of that. So
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna be August twenty sixth at five pm.
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  Speaker 1: But this is done deal and that Cozal has move
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  Speaker 1: in and take over, So I don't know how that'll.
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  Speaker 1: They have to be be consulted some way. They have
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  Speaker 1: to be improving this in some way. You don't allow
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  Speaker 1: new owners to pay ten almost ten billion dollars for
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  Speaker 1: your franchise and then, oh, by the way, we just
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  Speaker 1: signed a guy that's facing eight felonies in Florida. How
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: you deal with that? Thanks, No, you have to that
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  Speaker 1: have approved by the sale. I think that there's a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of fudging of the NFL rules if in
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  Speaker 1: fact it's a black and white they can't do anything
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  Speaker 1: until the sales approved and transaction's done. Here, But in
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  Speaker 1: the football wise, Schnyders knows that McDonald and he's earned this.
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  Speaker 1: McDonald already has that anything to do with his defense,
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  Speaker 1: McDonald needs to be all on board with He's not
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  Speaker 1: going to import anything to that defense without McDonald's approval
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  Speaker 1: of it. Not to mention McDonald's culture and what he's
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  Speaker 1: built in that locker room, I think is the overriding
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  Speaker 1: factor here. Yes, his GM wants to make sure his
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  Speaker 1: coach is okay with everything that he's built inside that
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  Speaker 1: locker room that he doesn't think Arnold upsets that, which
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  Speaker 1: is why Snyder went into McDonald's office, as portrayed in
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  Speaker 1: the episode last Night, to say that Jaln Milroe, Arnold's
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  Speaker 1: Alabama teammate, vouches for him and thinks it's going to
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  Speaker 1: work out great up here. That was the GM appealing
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  Speaker 1: to the coach's locker room culture side of this equation.
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  Speaker 5: Did you learn anything last night about Emon Warrior or
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: did you already have the up to date information.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't because what's interesting about the Hard Knocks that
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: everyone gets to see is that the footage is no
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: later than a couple of days before the production before
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: the actual airing, right because it has to go through
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: the editing process. For instance, last week, the viewers saw
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: him in a walking boot and a stroll and a scooter,
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: and fans were alarmed. And in fact, that was about
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: a week and a half old footage, and we had
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: seen him walking around in crocs or he called him canes.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: They're different than the crocs, So we had seen him
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  Speaker 1: beyond that, and that's in just a week and a half.
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  Speaker 1: Yesterday I saw him in flat court shoes and T
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  Speaker 1: shirt and shorts doing pass rush drills on the field.
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  Speaker 1: It was spin rip moves and spin moves with an assistant.
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  Speaker 1: He hadn't done that before. He passed the physical yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: which wasn't in the episode. He's now cleared to come
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  Speaker 1: back to practice whenever he and the team thinks he's
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: ready to do it, and he was on the field
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  Speaker 1: doing football work for the first time. So that's advanced
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  Speaker 1: beyond what the editing process of the Hard Knocks was.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, in this case, in this how these seems
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  Speaker 1: to be healing well by the day. The Hard Knocks
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  Speaker 1: episode is a few days behind reality there.
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  Speaker 5: All right, what else we got in the Greg Bell
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  Speaker 5: notebook here to wrap up our session today?
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  Speaker 1: Well, Jackson Smith and jigba it's just proving every day
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  Speaker 1: to be a great route runner against some of the
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  Speaker 1: best in the league. He is going head to head
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  Speaker 1: with Devin Witherspoon every day, and yesterday he beat him
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  Speaker 1: again with a beautiful outside release move and a perfect
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: pass by Sam Donald over the outside shoulder of the cornerback,
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  Speaker 1: and once again and an adjustment on the ball in
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  Speaker 1: the air and body controlled near the goal line. There
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  Speaker 1: was an underthrown pass by Donald that Smith and Jigbuld
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  Speaker 1: beat Witherspoon on because of his body control. And I
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: tell you, if he's like a basketball player boxing out
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  Speaker 1: for a rebound and he's not that big as a
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: stature and body size to do it, wiersmm was slapping
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: his hands together pretty upset about it. Wierson didn't want
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: anything to do with my question about where he views
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: the contract situation as it stands right now, So he's
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: going to leave his monologue to hard Knocks last week
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  Speaker 1: to stand for that. He did talk a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about why he's still practicing full go instead of holding in,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: and he said that he focused on getting better and
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: he wants to be getting better with his guys and
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  Speaker 1: all of that. Jake Bobo came back to practice yesterday
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  Speaker 1: in full scrimmaging for the first time. Julian Neil, the
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: third round cornerback, was on a side field. He's still
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: been about two weeks from fully practicing the leg injury.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Zach Charmonay had a resistance machine rope tied to his
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: waist while he was doing lateral moves on the backfield,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: and next to him was Jedarian Price, and Price was
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: doing straight line ten twenty yard sprints. He was doing
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: diagonal sprints. The most important action of the practice yesterday
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: happened on a backfield and wasn't even anything to do
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: with the practice all.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: I broke up a little bit there at the end,
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: but okay, cool, all right, Greg, thank you. I appreciate
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: it what he got at ten o'clock today.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: You just sounded like my wife when I tell her
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: about my day. Yeah, okay, cool.
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: Well, I was like up against the clock, and so
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: I'm like, do I follow because you broke up like
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: a little bit and my headset and I'm like, did
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: I hear that right at the end, And I mean,
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: do I have time to explore that? And now that
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: I've explained all of this, I probably had time to
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: explore it.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: That was I know Wendy's listening, honey. That sounds like
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: your eyes gloss over when I tell you about things
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: you don't care about. At eleven o'clock, we're going to
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: talk about our buddy, Wendy's buddy farm Logy TSN Canada
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: at the training camps he's been through and he's heading
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: to more this week, including Kenneth Walker and the Chiefs.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to him at eleven o'clock and we'll get
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: more into this Terry on Arnold. We'll talk about what
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I think is a lack of in the clubhouse leadership
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: from the Mariners, and we saw a glimpse of the
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: much needed leadership they need last night by Kyle Rawley.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Just wearing it for the entire organization and impromptu press
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: conference outside the clubhouse at Yankee Stadium will play his comments,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: including the one that said he's awful right now. I'm
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: sure you've talked about it.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we've talked about We're going to play at
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: at eight thirty, so hopefully that that doesn't interfere with
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: your audience there. All right, man, thank you, We appreciate
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: we'll be listening at ten.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, thanks Sanks.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: Right, Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider. Of course I've been
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  Speaker 5: So good stuff, a lot of information and of course
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: hard knocks reaction, which Ashley and I have a boatload
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: of more hard knocks reaction coming your way at at
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: eight o'clock. But coming up next, back to those Mariners,
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: ABC's of the MS Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM,
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: and last night to the New York Yankees four to one.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: The final score, no offense, questionable managerial decisions.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: The beat just goes on.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: For the twenty twenty six Mariners, who we keep finding
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: new ways to have a low point in their season,
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: eight games under five hundred right now, never run that
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: they would be there. We'll recap the game for you
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: with Baseball Brunch coming up at eight thirty. But the alphabet,
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: you never know where it's going to lead you, and
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: so we are at the tail end. I'm going to
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: try to get in the last four letters of the alphabet.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: Here in the ABC's we left off of W and
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: W is for WU.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Who was Willy good last night?
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: And it was great to see somebody that had to
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: dig deep in that first inning. That's the kind of
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: inning that it might slip away from him. We've seen
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: it slip away from him on the road. He's not
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: these road woes that he has. It usually comes down
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: to like one inning where it gets away from him,
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: and it usually follows either a bloop hit or a
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: bad defensive play, or a play that maybe maybe not
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: an error, but you know you're sitting on the mountain
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: like you should have had this. I should have been
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: out of this inning. Here we go again. But Brian
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: Wu dug deep in that first inning got the job done,
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: and so h good for him. And I would just
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: point out this one other thing about it. W is
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: for win for those who just entirely go into analytics
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: and don't like anything like wins and RBI and bunting
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: and win something like that, Yeah, wins don't matter. Do
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: you see that Brian Wu handed Randy a rose arena
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: the trident last night at the top step because he
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: knew his day was done and he knew a rose
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: arena gave him a chance to get a win. Yep,
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: it does matter to pictures. So if it matters to
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: active pictures, then it does matter a little bit.
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: I think, yes, it does matter.
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: And I had when he was pitching so well, because
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: that was the thing I was most nervous about. It
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: is Wu going to finally get rid of his road,
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: his road woes, road wos, his road woes. And he did,
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: and I was like, Okay, this is great, but then
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: of course, yeah, our offense can't come through, and that
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: was so disappointing. He had a different look on his
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: face last night, too, did you I mean he looked.
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: It was like not a scowl, but it was there
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: was no relaxation in his face. Ever when he was
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: out there on the field, it was I have got
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: to do this. Yeah, I have got to overcome this,
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: and I am I mean, that was focus.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: But I think Dave appropriately pointed out last night that
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: even in that one inning he was missing, he was
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: missing the edges. And that's where Brian wu I mean,
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: he's always at the rails and always at.
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: The edges keeping the whales.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And so he wasn't one hundred percent on his
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: game last night, but he got out of that harm
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: yep and then was able to be Wu like from
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: that point forward.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: So that was good to see. Certainly the highlight of.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: The of the low point exis for explanation at this point,
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: I just need an explanation. I mean, I love the
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: challenge ABS challenge system that we have. I love the
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: manager as the ability to challenge plays in the field.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: If you have this technology, you're a fool for not
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: being using I think we now all know that now
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: we've been foolish for not using this over the years,
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: and now I can't even imagine life without it.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: And yet when we launched this, in my head, I thought,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: what a great advantage.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: I never dreamt that it would be such a disadvantage
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: to our baseball team. We are just stone cold horrible
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: at abs challenge. And look when you look at the numbers,
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: like challenges one fifty two this year versus challenges lost
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: sixty eight, and that that's already indicative of what I'm
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: talking about. But there are teams. There have been seven
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: teams with fewer challenges one than what the Mariners have,
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: So we're not the worst in that area. Challenges lost
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: sixty twenty second ranked there our percentage forty three percent.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: This is at home, this is at the plate, twenty seventh,
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: so not bad, but there are a couple teams that
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: are worse. League average, by the way, is forty eight percent,
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: which indicates hitters, you're not as good as the umpires,
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: after all. Catchers are better, yeah, but hitters aren't better
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: than the umpires after all at knowing the strike zone.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: So forty eight percent of the challenges have been unsuccessful
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: or have been successful. The Mariners are forty three, so
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: we're five percentage points below. So bad then, and then
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: on the other side, when our catchers and our pitchers
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: challenge things. We're twenty third. We've had sixty eight overturns
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: as opposed to the leader having one hundred and sixteen,
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: which shows you we're not that aggressive at it. And
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: when we have been successful, it's usually been Garver. Because
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: Garver was one of the best, he was very good.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: We don't have him anymore.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: So those are just the factors that they give us.
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: What it doesn't factor in, though, the statistics, because we're
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: new to this ABS challenge, or at least I haven't
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: found a site that has these statistics. Well, it doesn't
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: factor in is place that should have been challenged and weren't,
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: and stupid challenges that were not only missed but poorly timed.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: And I think we're horrible. We got to be dead
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: last in both of those elements.
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: Well, I was thinking last night in the fifth inning
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: when that strike, that was the strike on the lower end,
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: and Cal.
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: Kind of thought about, how do you not challenge?
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: And then he didn't challenge it, and luckily we got
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: out of the inning there, I mean luckily they had
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: that out at first and everything was fine, but that
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: was I mean, Cal's got to have more confidence in
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: that in him self there.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: He doesn't have any confidence in himself at all at anything.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Right now.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: I know he should be the best in the business
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: at this, but he's even bad at this right now.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: He wasn't earlier in this.
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: No, I think he's just two in his head over everything.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Over everything. Yeah, even at the plate. He's terrible at
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the plate and challenging. But all of our hitters are.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: We saw cold Emerson again in the ninth inning the
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: other day when we're down two, we've got two challenges remaining.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: The guy clearly throws a ball outside it's two oh,
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: and he doesn't even challenge it. We've got two Why
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: are you not challenging that?
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Last night?
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: You're right, the wo one was egregious. Like we're counting
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: pitches here. If there's any chance of him staying in
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: the game, we got to keep his pitch count low.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: He had two strikes on the battery, he had two
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: balls on the battery. You want to go to a
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: three to two count, that's the time to challenge it.
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: We might have struck that guy out, he's out of
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: the inning, and maybe he can pitch a sixth yep,
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: And instead we don't and you could tell Wu was bothered.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: WU knew it was a strike, but that's Col's call
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: and Cal doesn't challenge what was an obvious strike at
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: the knees. We're terrible at it, and I got to
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: get an explanation from someone this offseason.
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: Good luck.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Why we're so bad at it?
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we're bad at every We're bad at challenging,
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: We're bad at not challenging.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're bad at.
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: The reason so uncomfortable with the whole thing.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're bad at when we challenge. We're we're bad
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: when we don't challenge. I don't understand. Somebody's gonna have
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: to explain it to me. How we could be given
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: this gift from the technology gods. We thought it would
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: help us and it I guess that makes sense.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Though.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: Some teams are good at it and got helped by it,
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: and some teams are bad at it and got hurt
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: by it. We got hurt by it. We got hurt
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: by abs challenge this year because of how terrible we
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: are across the board.
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah that sounds about right. I hate that.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: Why is for year Ender led the show with this?
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: It did feel to me like the season's over it
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: did last night.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: It's not.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: I know a lot of time, I mean month and
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: a half left, four and a half game deficit or
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: in the wild card, it's not.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: But it's just.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: Really hard for me to believe that the team I've
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: been watching play baseball as of late is going to
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: suddenly summon a hot streaks.
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: I don't know where it comes.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: From, really hard to believe.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: So it kind of feels like a funeral here this
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: morning for the twenty twenty six Mariners.
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: From my perspective, well, and I understand that.
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: I mean, you know me, I'm gonna be stubbornly optimistic
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: all the way till the end, even though it's gonna.
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: Kill me all the way till the end.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Good I want you to be.
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: But I don't know where that hot streak comes from,
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: because I don't know how just all of a sudden,
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: someone's gonna like, let's take Cal for example, how all
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: of a sudden he's gonna walk out tonight and be like,
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: you know what, I figured it out, let's go. Yeah,
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: I want that to happen, but I don't know how.
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't. There's no magic, Yeah.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: You can't, there's no prick pixie dust that's going to
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: be sprinkled over this team. They got to do it themselves. Finally,
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: just to close out the alphabet, zis for Zenino. Earlier
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: this year, when Cal came off the jury list and
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: we landed at Z in the ABC's Z was for Zanino,
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: and I said that he's basically no more than Mike
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: Zanino at this point in the season. He wishes he
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: was mike' Sanino at this point.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Of the season.
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I hate this.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: I do too, and I don't even want to pick
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: on Mike Zanino, but I realized as I'm putting together
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: the alphabet, what an insult Cal's season this year is
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: to Mike Zanino, who's not a bad player. Cal's been
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: a bad player, and unfortunately it's time to call him
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: out and reckless. At Breakfast Next Sports Radio ninety three
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: point three KJRFM at Hard Knocks coming up at eight o'clock,
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: So we're going to talk about episode two.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: We'll get away from baseball for a little bit.
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: But Yeah, it just seems like really heavy day to
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: be talking about the Mariners, and maybe.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: It's time to finally call this thing out. We've been
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: ignoring it. It's been an eyesore in our corner.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: But it's time to call this out, and I don't
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: I have some reluctance in doing it because I do
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: have faith in the long term for the rest of
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: his career, and I do like him so much, and
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: I know that he's precious to the Seattle sports scene.
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: He will remain precious, and I think he will once
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: again be a star. But if we are going to
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: go all in the previous year in regards to how
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: great cal Raley is, and we're going to go have
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: fights in bars and with Yankee fans over he should
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: be the MVP over Aaron Judge, if where I spent
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: a lot of time on that, and we're going to
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: say here that he is the best player in the
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: American League in twenty twenty five, and we're going to
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: do that well with vigor, then when he has the
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: type of season that he's having this year, then I
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: think I owe it to my conscience to call him
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: out for how bad he's been this season. And it
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: is remarkable how bad he's been this season, like he
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: might be the worst player in the American League.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Oh man, to go from the.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: Best player in the American League too I mean that
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: has never happened in the history of sports. That's never
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: happened that you are the best one year and rock
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: bottom the very next. And I do believe he brings
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: some intangibles to the field which separate him from being
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: the worst player in the American League. I think he'll
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: always carry those, and he does carry those. He is
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: hitting one fifty nine. He doesn't qualify for the batting
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: title because of the time he missed with injury. But
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: right now, of the one hundred and fifty one hitters
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: in all of Major League Baseball, only one hundred and
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: fifty one of them would qualify for the batting title.
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: Have enough at bats to qualify for the batting title.
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: The low batting average is two to oh two. Oh man,
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: that is a forty three point gap between the worst
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: qualified batting average hitter in the sport and the face
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: of our franchise. To find a gap to go up
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: the ladder, you got to go all the way up
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: to two forty five hitters. So there are ninety three
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: hitters ninety four hitters in Major League Baseball hitting two
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: forty six or better. So that means what was it
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: one to fifty one to ninety five. So that's fifty
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: one fifty six hitters. Fifty six hitters the lowest batting
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: average hitters this year.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: In Major League Baseball.
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: The gap between the worst and the fifty sixth worst
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: a third of the league. The gap is the same
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: as the worst hitter.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: At col Rawley.
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: Well, I don't like that big about that, No, I
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: don't like it.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: I mean it's atrocious.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: And then let's tack on the defense, because he hasn't
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: been good to defense either this year. Like right now,
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: Baseball Savant says he is in the lowest one percentage
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: of offensive producers in the entire sport. And it doesn't
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: really clarify if he's absolute worst, it just says bottom
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: one percent. Defensively, he's not much better. He's in the
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: bottom ten defensively metrics, not just of catchers, of all
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: position players. Really his caught stealing because there's caught stealing
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: and a lot of that can be blamed on pitchers,
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: but is caught stealing percentages like, you know, caught stealing
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: above average. You know how they do that with war
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: you know, wins above replacement. So they factor in all
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: the numbers and then they try to figure out just
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: how many bases have been stolen on you and the
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: value you bring in that area.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Sixty fifth.
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: There aren't sixty five catchers in Major League Baseball.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: That's not sixty fifth.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: So he's been worse at throwing out base runners this
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: year than many guys that are right now in Triple A,
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: numerous ones. I mean, we love him, We'll always love him.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: I'm going to keep on loving him, There's no question
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: about it. And I think it will bounce back next year.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: I think he's gonna have an awakening and I think
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: he's going to have a completely different routine, and I
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: think that he will destroy himself before he comes back
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: and has another year like this. But how on earth
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: could anyone have planned for this?
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: No one could have. I mean, he, no one.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: I'm hard on Dan.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: There's no way that Dan could prepare for cal Rawley
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: to be the face of the franchise, heart of the order,
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: the heartbeat of the entire organization, and then one year
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: later be talking about, is our catcher the worst player
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: in this league right now?
• 35:25
  Speaker 8: I mean, if anyone predicted that or tries to be like, oh,
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: I knew he was going to fall off, We shouldn't
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: have signed him to it.
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's bs.
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: You absolutely should have given the contract he gave him
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: after last year.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: And there's a lot of people that are saying, you know, oh,
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: and this was the guy that was in the argument
• 35:39
  Speaker 8: for you know AL MVP.
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah he was, but that was on last season.
• 35:43
  Speaker 8: You don't pick an AL or n L MVP based
• 35:46
  Speaker 8: on a look at two seasons.
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's why it's.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: He should have won the sward and.
• 35:52
  Speaker 7: He had a very valid argument.
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: So you can't use that to then talk about what's
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: happening now other than to say it is shocking.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: It is beyond shocking.
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: It is probably the biggest drop off from one year
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: to the next of anyone that's ever played professional sports.
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: I hate it. I just feel so sad.
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: And so when he says, and we will play the audio,
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: I'm awful.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: He is.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: He has been awful now. Like I said, he brings
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: other things to the table that can't be measured, and
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: the team, for the most part, I think adores him,
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: and I think he'll bounce back next season, and I
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: think that that contract they sign him signed him to
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: will be worth it in the long run. But I mean,
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: in terms of shocking things that have happened in the
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: sports world in my lifetime, this is about as big
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: of a shock as anything I've ever experienced. The best
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: player in the American League one year later is the worst.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Player in the American League. Yeah, I don't know, how
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: did that happen? Why did that happen?
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: Wish we had answers?
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Sad?
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, Hard Knocks Next Sports Radio ninety three
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