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- 1:32Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, turn of ladies. Welcome
- 1:34Speaker 1: back to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling. I
- 1:37Speaker 1: am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dry Chicken,
- 1:41Speaker 1: and we will be reviewing the backlash. Uh this is
- 1:46Speaker 1: the post show. Thank god this pay per view is
- 1:50Speaker 1: behind us and we can move on with some of
- 1:51Speaker 1: these feuds left over from WrestleMania. Uh you know what,
- 1:56Speaker 1: We're just gonna get right into it. Let me let
- 1:58Speaker 1: me bring out my co host.
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- 2:39Speaker 4: Welcome back, Dre Hi doing Yeah yo, what did do?
- 2:43Speaker 4: Pc W crew?
- 2:45Speaker 1: Okay, why are you eating this episode?
- 2:47Speaker 4: Gotta know, I'm beaut you're not eating anything this time around?
- 2:52Speaker 1: Oh man, damn, oh Difer. I thought I thought you
- 2:55Speaker 1: would have some Mexican food. At least.
- 2:59Speaker 4: Now, I've had a large lunch, so I'm not early
- 3:01Speaker 4: hungry right now.
- 3:02Speaker 1: So all right, crunch in the background today. All right,
- 3:08Speaker 1: let's bring out a guest or you know, at this
- 3:11Speaker 1: point another co host. I have in my head the
- 3:19Speaker 1: account for me.
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- 3:41Speaker 1: Welcome back, Tyler.
- 3:44Speaker 5: Hello, how is everybody? How is the PCW universe? Are
- 3:49Speaker 5: you having me tonight? Thank you for having me tonight?
- 3:51Speaker 1: Of course. I mean, it's not like you got anything
- 3:53Speaker 1: else to do, right You want to talk about some wrestling? Hell?
- 4:00Speaker 5: Yes, always what do you guys want to talk about
- 4:04Speaker 5: Seazy Cody?
- 4:05Speaker 1: We want to talk about backlash?
- 4:09Speaker 3: Uh?
- 4:10Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be interesting. You know, I read, I've read
- 4:15Speaker 1: a lot online people were saying this was this is
- 4:18Speaker 1: wrong of the worst backlashes ever.
- 4:20Speaker 3: Uh.
- 4:21Speaker 1: I don't think it is. I think I think we've
- 4:23Speaker 1: we've probably had I can't pinpoint any at the moment,
- 4:26Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure we've had way worse backlashes. So
- 4:30Speaker 1: pump the brakes on people saying this could possibly be
- 4:33Speaker 1: the worst backlash ever. So I disagree. Uh, dre have
- 4:42Speaker 1: you have you watched any of the whole Cocain documentary yet.
- 4:47Speaker 4: I have not. I know there's that one and the
- 4:50Speaker 4: Shawn Michaels one on Peacock that. Yeah, I want to
- 4:54Speaker 4: watch them. I just have not had the time to
- 4:56Speaker 4: get to either one of them.
- 4:57Speaker 1: Get Yeah, it's uh. I watched the first episode, so
- 5:01Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of like slow burning with it.
- 5:04Speaker 1: Same thing with Unreal, Like I'm still watching ww Unreal.
- 5:07Speaker 1: I'm just making it a slow burn right now, kind
- 5:11Speaker 1: of taking it in and joining it. But I heard
- 5:14Speaker 1: there is another season of Dark Side of the Ring
- 5:17Speaker 1: coming out, so that's gonna be interesting.
- 5:22Speaker 4: It depends on what stories that they're gonna tell.
- 5:26Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I.
- 5:28Speaker 6: Feel like Dark Side of Rings kind of falling off
- 5:30Speaker 6: over the years. Like in the beginning, it was really
- 5:33Speaker 6: interesting because they were telling stories that people were interested
- 5:36Speaker 6: in or doing highlights on people, and you would think
- 5:40Speaker 6: something like wrestling there being there should be an infinite
- 5:43Speaker 6: number of stories that can be told.
- 5:44Speaker 4: But oh, the last couple of seasons have been kind of.
- 5:50Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, I.
- 5:52Speaker 6: Don't want to say fully mediocre, but they just quite
- 5:55Speaker 6: haven't haven't been as compelling as past seasons.
- 5:59Speaker 1: Right, Okay, Well, it looks like this season they're gonna
- 6:03Speaker 1: have Paul orange Ondorf, Big boss Man, Miss Missy Hyatt,
- 6:10Speaker 1: Samoa Joe and Necro Butcher's Hatred for one Another and
- 6:15Speaker 1: their Mid South match from two thousand and five. There's
- 6:21Speaker 1: a match that people undersolden also called it a bloodbath.
- 6:25Speaker 1: So again they're gonna do one match. Now they're doing
- 6:29Speaker 1: Zach Gowen. If you remember him, he's the one legged
- 6:32Speaker 1: wrestler that got his ass whooped by Brock Lesner. Funny thing, Tyler.
- 6:37Speaker 1: We were just talking about Zach Gowen the other day, Yes,
- 6:41Speaker 1: we were, Uh, and there's gonna be I think the oh,
- 6:46Speaker 1: the Renegade. Uh, he's a the Ultimate Warrior knockoff. I
- 6:51Speaker 1: believe they had.
- 6:54Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 6:54Speaker 1: The main attraction though for this season is a three
- 6:57Speaker 1: part It's gonna be on Double j Jeff Jared on
- 7:03Speaker 1: his UH career through TNA, so we're gonna see a
- 7:06Speaker 1: little a little bit behind the scenes of TNA. It
- 7:09Speaker 1: looks like UH with having Jeff Jared on them with
- 7:13Speaker 1: three episodes. I've heard of two parters, but never never
- 7:16Speaker 1: a three parter, never trilogy, never heard Dark Side of
- 7:20Speaker 1: the Ring down. I never thought there'd be a three parter.
- 7:22Speaker 1: But I guess it's that intense of a story and
- 7:26Speaker 1: there's that much it has to be a three parter.
- 7:28Speaker 6: So and and see that right there, Nothing about Jeff
- 7:33Speaker 6: Jared tells me that his that he needs a three
- 7:36Speaker 6: part Docs side of the ring episode, right, Like, what
- 7:40Speaker 6: about his career was that compelling? Not saying that he
- 7:44Speaker 6: didn't have a compelling career, or not to say that
- 7:46Speaker 6: he doesn't have an interesting story to tell. I'm not
- 7:49Speaker 6: saying that by any means, because he definitely has the
- 7:52Speaker 6: story to tell. I mean, the guy founded basically founded
- 7:55Speaker 6: TNA Wrestling.
- 7:57Speaker 1: But three parts now, yeah, it seems a little a
- 8:03Speaker 1: little too much. Right now?
- 8:06Speaker 4: We got two parts?
- 8:09Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I mean this is gonna be that exciting.
- 8:14Speaker 1: I can't wait. I can't wait for the next episode
- 8:17Speaker 1: on Jeff Jed's TNA. I wonder how far up they
- 8:21Speaker 1: go too with I guess his entire run with TNA. Maybe, Uh,
- 8:25Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess we'll I guess we'll see. Uh.
- 8:33Speaker 1: Did you guys hear Cody Rhodes got hit with a
- 8:35Speaker 1: cease and desist over his ring gear?
- 8:38Speaker 5: His ring gear? Yeah?
- 8:40Speaker 1: Because it was uh uh understan I got the reporter here.
- 8:45Speaker 1: Underspeed WW champion Curti Roads is that he is a
- 8:48Speaker 1: huge fan of the legend of Zelda and even has
- 8:50Speaker 1: a Triforce tattoo on one of his fingers. That kind
- 8:54Speaker 1: of symbol has been closely associated with him over the
- 8:56Speaker 1: years and was previously featured on some of his wrestling
- 9:00Speaker 1: year as well. While speaking with Kit Wilson on this
- 9:04Speaker 1: on his what do You Want to Talk About podcasts,
- 9:07Speaker 1: the topic of favorite video games, eventually that's a discussion
- 9:10Speaker 1: about Cody's Zelda inspired presentation, the American Nightmare explained the
- 9:18Speaker 1: meaning of the tri force held for him and revealed
- 9:21Speaker 1: that Nintendo once sent him a cease and assist regarding
- 9:24Speaker 1: to design on his boots. Wow from Nintendo. That's cool,
- 9:31Speaker 1: I guess, but.
- 9:34Speaker 6: Typical Nintendo being overly lit just with their IP properties
- 9:40Speaker 6: and all.
- 9:41Speaker 1: Yeah, just to just a wee bit there.
- 9:45Speaker 3: So HU.
- 9:51Speaker 1: Also Triple A. I read a report of Triple A's
- 9:55Speaker 1: stance on running too many ads. Basically, somebody came to
- 10:00Speaker 1: Triple H and and and Stephanie complained about it, seeing
- 10:05Speaker 1: there's this, you know, ah to somebody goddamn ads and
- 10:10Speaker 1: they said they are very well aware, and they are
- 10:13Speaker 1: working on the placement, better placement of them. That was
- 10:17Speaker 1: the response. We know, and we're working on it.
- 10:20Speaker 5: So basically what they said was, we're working on a
- 10:23Speaker 5: way to disguise them so that they don't seem like
- 10:25Speaker 5: they're as long, but they're just as long.
- 10:27Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean we did. We We talked about
- 10:29Speaker 1: before how much of the show is just just ads,
- 10:34Speaker 1: you know, and the actual amount of wrestling is ridiculous,
- 10:41Speaker 1: you know, compared to how much ad time we get,
- 10:44Speaker 1: and like last night going to change, Yeah, dude, And
- 10:49Speaker 1: and you know what, I've really noticed it when I
- 10:50Speaker 1: was watching Netflix, uh the day after, because I was like, Okay,
- 10:55Speaker 1: I gotta catch up one roll, so I'm gonna fast
- 10:57Speaker 1: forward through this, fast forward through that. And the amount
- 10:59Speaker 1: of tap tap tap tap tap, you know, the skipping
- 11:03Speaker 1: just to just to skip all those goddamn ads and
- 11:06Speaker 1: just some wasteful time. You know, it's crazy, how like,
- 11:10Speaker 1: especially in the beginning of Netflix, how you can almost
- 11:13Speaker 1: skip sixteen minutes in after skipping the ads and the
- 11:17Speaker 1: whole if you're willing to, if you don't want to
- 11:21Speaker 1: miss the uh well, if you do want to skip
- 11:23Speaker 1: over the walking into the arena, that whole bit, you know,
- 11:26Speaker 1: and then the panning the camera outside of the arena.
- 11:30Speaker 1: Like there's just so much shit that they do becausistently
- 11:33Speaker 1: every week they can just cut out. So speaking of
- 11:39Speaker 1: cutting out, you know, thank thank god, we're getting smacked
- 11:42Speaker 1: down down to two hours. Apparently that's like one of
- 11:45Speaker 1: the excuses they had for letting go of so many
- 11:48Speaker 1: people because now that SmackDown's going down to two hours,
- 11:52Speaker 1: which I kind of call BS on that being the reason.
- 11:55Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I think quantity of qualities was important. Yeah,
- 12:02Speaker 1: we're we've done two hour smackdowns in the past for
- 12:05Speaker 1: many years. Hell SmackDown are in raw too, and you
- 12:09Speaker 1: can get good quality out of it as long as
- 12:11Speaker 1: you have good stories to tell.
- 12:16Speaker 6: I think some of the stories BS because it's not
- 12:18Speaker 6: a permanent change. I know it changed to two hours
- 12:22Speaker 6: because of programming decisions that they've got what braun Strouman's
- 12:26Speaker 6: new shows, Cup is Eating Show or whatever's coming back,
- 12:29Speaker 6: and that's going to take up.
- 12:30Speaker 4: To ten to eleven o'clock slot.
- 12:32Speaker 6: So that's probably later this summer when they get up
- 12:36Speaker 6: to summerstam time or something like that, or maybe in
- 12:38Speaker 6: the fall, it'll go right back to three hours, so
- 12:41Speaker 6: they'll still have three hours I have to have to
- 12:43Speaker 6: fill with content. So I don't buy for a second
- 12:46Speaker 6: either that they released talent because SmackDown was being cut,
- 12:50Speaker 6: because the talent that they released wasn't just SmackDown. So yeah,
- 12:55Speaker 6: whoever theorized that reason had no idea what they were
- 12:58Speaker 6: talking about.
- 13:00Speaker 1: Yeah, I really don't see a connection between the two.
- 13:06Speaker 1: But you know, it's also like when we see all
- 13:08Speaker 1: these cuts, we're always quick to jump to a conclusion
- 13:11Speaker 1: of like, oh, what what could it be? You know, like,
- 13:15Speaker 1: what what was the reason? Because we looked for the
- 13:18Speaker 1: very first change in the company. We're like, oh, that's
- 13:21Speaker 1: the reason why, because we needed to afford to get
- 13:24Speaker 1: these celebrities in this next next couple ples, or I know,
- 13:30Speaker 1: maybe a certain venue that they chose, or I don't know,
- 13:34Speaker 1: I haven't noticed that they've cut down on some pyro
- 13:37Speaker 1: and stuff. So there's certain there's certain ways they're cutting
- 13:42Speaker 1: back on money. But you know, there's one thing you
- 13:47Speaker 1: can always trust, those the almighty corporate greed. So unfortunately,
- 13:53Speaker 1: ADS will forever be there, especially with as much money
- 13:58Speaker 1: as you know, t KO has brought in with WWE
- 14:02Speaker 1: as a partnership, So expect more ads. I mean that's
- 14:10Speaker 1: all I got, Dre, you want to get into Backlash.
- 14:19Speaker 6: A nice I didn't get jump into this pl which
- 14:22Speaker 6: was again Backlashes, took place from the Benchmark International Arena
- 14:28Speaker 6: in Tampa Bay in front of about fourteen six hundred people.
- 14:33Speaker 6: First match that kicked off the show was Broun Breaker
- 14:38Speaker 6: versus Seth Rollins, which also aired on ESPN two. Since
- 14:43Speaker 6: apparently that was I'm assuming pretty successful for them as
- 14:47Speaker 6: far as ratings and viewership since it worked out pretty
- 14:51Speaker 6: well for WrestleMania. So but like I said, first match,
- 14:56Speaker 6: bron Breaker versus Seth Rollins, it was a good match
- 15:00Speaker 6: to start off the show. I mean, it was hard hitting.
- 15:04Speaker 6: They gave them much more time than I thought they would.
- 15:06Speaker 6: I'm surprised by that. Like it was the longest match
- 15:11Speaker 6: on the whole show, at about twenty one and a
- 15:14Speaker 6: half minutes. It was a strong kickoff to the show.
- 15:22Speaker 6: Bron Breaker got the victory. Looked like the next guy
- 15:29Speaker 6: brou I mean Seth Rollins.
- 15:33Speaker 4: Seth Rollins.
- 15:34Speaker 6: Watching him, you can tell he can still I could
- 15:36Speaker 6: tell he could still go in the ring.
- 15:38Speaker 4: Obviously he hasn't.
- 15:39Speaker 6: It's not like he's falling off a cliff, but you
- 15:41Speaker 6: can see a little bit of the age and maybe
- 15:44Speaker 6: the wear and tear starting to show a little bit
- 15:47Speaker 6: on seth and then had the one, like one very
- 15:51Speaker 6: noticeable botch where he went for one move and almost
- 15:54Speaker 6: landed on his head. But they recovered from it pretty quickly.
- 15:59Speaker 6: But you can kind of tell that things are starting
- 16:03Speaker 6: to catch up to stuff a little bit. But nevertheless,
- 16:07Speaker 6: they did put on a great match. Braun Breaker looked
- 16:11Speaker 6: spectacular in the match. He could probably stand to expand
- 16:15Speaker 6: his move set a little bit because you know, towards
- 16:18Speaker 6: the end it kind of became a bit of a
- 16:21Speaker 6: spam fest of the spear. But other than that, I
- 16:25Speaker 6: remet what you have much complaints about the match. I
- 16:27Speaker 6: thought it was a really good match and a strong
- 16:28Speaker 6: kickoff to the show. So or you out on it, Wayne, Yeah, I.
- 16:33Speaker 1: Mean this is uh. I agree. It was a great
- 16:36Speaker 1: match to kick off the show. We've been kind of
- 16:39Speaker 1: building up for this, this match for quite some time.
- 16:43Speaker 1: I mean, this is the one that we thought should
- 16:45Speaker 1: have been on the Wrestling a card, but couldn't be
- 16:48Speaker 1: on the wrestling card. This story leads all the way
- 16:53Speaker 1: back to about a year ago when Bron joins division
- 16:57Speaker 1: and you know we finally seen Broun turn on Seth
- 17:02Speaker 1: and and Seth you know, between both of them going
- 17:05Speaker 1: through injuries, it took almost a full year to get
- 17:09Speaker 1: to where we are.
- 17:10Speaker 4: Uh.
- 17:11Speaker 1: And we're not over, We're definitely I don't think we're
- 17:14Speaker 1: done here. I don't want to see them move on yet.
- 17:20Speaker 1: I want this few to go for.
- 17:22Speaker 4: A lot longer.
- 17:24Speaker 1: Broun getting the the win, I think we we saw
- 17:27Speaker 1: that coming, you know, Broun getting at least the first
- 17:30Speaker 1: win in this feud.
- 17:32Speaker 3: Uh.
- 17:34Speaker 1: I enjoy so many spots with with Braun. Man, that
- 17:37Speaker 1: guy's this pure fucking speed. Uh I did you know
- 17:42Speaker 1: him going for the running around the ring? You know
- 17:45Speaker 1: when that he gets all amped up and you know
- 17:47Speaker 1: he's gonna reach that that full speed and spear somebody
- 17:51Speaker 1: through either a table or barricade. But seth answers it
- 17:54Speaker 1: with a super kick, which I thought was cool. The
- 17:58Speaker 1: the what is that the superlex that was then reversed
- 18:02Speaker 1: by by Braun because Broun, I think Seth was gonna
- 18:04Speaker 1: turn into like a Falcon arrow. So that was pretty impressive.
- 18:09Speaker 1: I mean, come on like, yeah, yeah, And I get
- 18:14Speaker 1: what you're saying though, dre with with Seth age maybe
- 18:19Speaker 1: starting to show, but uh, it could also be just
- 18:22Speaker 1: who you're you're comparing him to in the ring with
- 18:24Speaker 1: I mean Braun right now, is this young guy who's
- 18:27Speaker 1: just like I said, just pure fucking speed. And when
- 18:30Speaker 1: you put him up against Seth, yeah, he does make
- 18:32Speaker 1: Seth look old and slow. But I maybe to me,
- 18:37Speaker 1: it's just who he's up against. You know, Let's let's
- 18:40Speaker 1: put Seth up against anybody else right now on the roster.
- 18:43Speaker 1: I don't think it would seem the same, you know.
- 18:47Speaker 1: I don't think he'd come off as slow and stiff.
- 18:52Speaker 1: You know, but this guy hasn't had a true match
- 18:56Speaker 1: in a couple of months, right since his injury. I
- 19:03Speaker 1: don't know. I I think this is great. This is
- 19:07Speaker 1: a great win for Braun. This is a huge win
- 19:11Speaker 1: for his career.
- 19:14Speaker 4: You know.
- 19:14Speaker 1: Let's let's see if he can he won the battle.
- 19:17Speaker 1: Let's see if he can win the war. We had interference,
- 19:21Speaker 1: of course, from the vision. I think we all saw
- 19:24Speaker 1: that coming, even Seth Salt coming grabbed the steel chair,
- 19:26Speaker 1: basically waited for them to come, you know. So I
- 19:33Speaker 1: don't know. Actually, I think this week on Raw, we
- 19:39Speaker 1: saw that they're definitely not done with this feud. And
- 19:44Speaker 1: there's a couple, you know, Mattress, we're having tight on
- 19:47Speaker 1: this card that I don't think are done so one
- 19:51Speaker 1: of many Tyler, what do you think, man?
- 19:55Speaker 5: I thought it was a really good match, you know,
- 19:59Speaker 5: as far as like out they're projecting the story of
- 20:03Speaker 5: or the aspect that Seth is you know, tired and
- 20:08Speaker 5: maybe worn down a little bit, or that he's you know,
- 20:10Speaker 5: still having some fatigue from from healing, uh, you know
- 20:15Speaker 5: after a surgery. It showed in his performance. You know,
- 20:20Speaker 5: I'm not saying it like hurted like you you know,
- 20:23Speaker 5: if it was work, it was it was being sold
- 20:24Speaker 5: really really well.
- 20:26Speaker 1: If it was like all legit and that was just
- 20:28Speaker 1: like all.
- 20:29Speaker 5: He could do, also really really well, you know, Broun,
- 20:36Speaker 5: I do. I do agree with Tray's point of, you know,
- 20:39Speaker 5: the the bag of tricks quickly running out and then
- 20:42Speaker 5: like you know, you beat a couple like dead horses,
- 20:46Speaker 5: just give using them. The one that I did like
- 20:51Speaker 5: that I'm surprised nobody mentioned was the spear that would
- 20:55Speaker 5: that was turned into his pedigree.
- 20:57Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 20:59Speaker 5: I really like that one. Other than that, I was
- 21:04Speaker 5: happy with it. You know, I obviously say it was
- 21:07Speaker 5: rude for Seth, but you know, you know Bron's gonna.
- 21:10Speaker 1: Win, So.
- 21:13Speaker 5: Yeah, I was happy with it.
- 21:19Speaker 1: Yeah, good match, It's a good, great way to start
- 21:22Speaker 1: that night.
- 21:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 21:25Speaker 6: Let me be clear though, when I say about Seth
- 21:28Speaker 6: Rollins looking like looking a little bit slower and all
- 21:31Speaker 6: that than he used to, it's not I'm not comparing
- 21:34Speaker 6: him to Bron Breaker when I make that assessment. As
- 21:36Speaker 6: far as I'm concerned, Seth Rollins gonna work circles around
- 21:39Speaker 6: Bron Breaker. And like I mentioned, bron has a limited
- 21:43Speaker 6: move set, He's not. He doesn't have anywhere near as
- 21:46Speaker 6: many moves in his repertoire as Seth Rollins does. So
- 21:50Speaker 6: I'm not saying Seth has lost a step because Bron
- 21:53Speaker 6: Breaker can run fast.
- 21:55Speaker 4: It's because he just genuinely looks like a little bit
- 22:00Speaker 4: it slower.
- 22:01Speaker 6: In the rink if I'm comparing Seth to himself to
- 22:04Speaker 6: what Seth used to be, Like, yeah, Seth can pull
- 22:08Speaker 6: out great moves.
- 22:08Speaker 4: But and as was shown by.
- 22:11Speaker 6: The counter the superplex, which was countered into the Falcon Arrow,
- 22:15Speaker 6: like I said, that was probably the best move of
- 22:18Speaker 6: the best spot in the whole match.
- 22:20Speaker 4: And I'm pretty sure that was Seth Rollins's idea.
- 22:22Speaker 6: And that's something that you know, bron Breaker wouldn't be
- 22:27Speaker 6: able to pull that move out on his own. I
- 22:29Speaker 6: don't think that he would think of that as something
- 22:31Speaker 6: like that on his own. I mean that speaks to
- 22:34Speaker 6: Seth's you know, experience and his longevity in the in
- 22:38Speaker 6: time in the ring. But other than that, even even
- 22:46Speaker 6: the spot that you brought up, Tyler, the spirit that
- 22:48Speaker 6: was countered into the pedigree, it was a cool spot,
- 22:52Speaker 6: but if you really, if you really look at it,
- 22:56Speaker 6: he didn't. It didn't look like he really got all
- 22:57Speaker 6: of it, like if he was kind of it into
- 23:00Speaker 6: the pedigree, but he didn't even catch Bron's breakers arms
- 23:03Speaker 6: and like hook him for it the way a pedigree
- 23:05Speaker 6: would normally looks. Kind of the reason why I didn't
- 23:08Speaker 6: bring it up is because when I from my perspective,
- 23:10Speaker 6: it looked a little bit off. It was a good spot,
- 23:13Speaker 6: it just wasn't executed as as crisply as it could.
- 23:17Speaker 4: Right, it didn't looked good to me.
- 23:20Speaker 6: Was the when Seth went further, was it the stomp
- 23:23Speaker 6: or whatever off the second rope and braun countered it
- 23:26Speaker 6: into a spear. To me, that should have been the
- 23:28Speaker 6: one that ended the match, but obviously it wasn't. But
- 23:31Speaker 6: that was a great spot there. Yeah, but they said,
- 23:35Speaker 6: just overall, Seth just.
- 23:36Speaker 4: Looks a little bit.
- 23:39Speaker 6: Slower and it's just a little bit little signs of
- 23:42Speaker 6: just the wear of the ring starting to show. Yeah,
- 23:45Speaker 6: man can still working phenomenal match, but you can see
- 23:48Speaker 6: these kind of getting on the other side of the hill.
- 23:52Speaker 5: Yeah, it's gonna be a sad day when he goes.
- 23:56Speaker 1: Retired. You mean, yeah, that Jesus christis fucking guy.
- 24:00Speaker 5: So sorry, how in considerative me to speak words?
- 24:05Speaker 1: Well, like, dude, like I mentioned this not too long ago,
- 24:08Speaker 1: but actually, Tyler, you and me were probably talking about
- 24:11Speaker 1: this off air at some point. How so, we lost
- 24:14Speaker 1: so many wrestlers within the last year two years just
- 24:18Speaker 1: to retirement alone. And now with this new TKO deal
- 24:25Speaker 1: or offer, with this fifty percent off sale, the wrestlers
- 24:29Speaker 1: who aren't taking it, you know, who aren't willing to
- 24:33Speaker 1: restructure their contracts, it looks like that could be a
- 24:38Speaker 1: good reason to accelerate somebody's retirement, you know, like possibly
- 24:45Speaker 1: that could have been what happened with brock Lesner. We'll
- 24:47Speaker 1: talk about Oscar then, but who knows. Maybe that that
- 24:52Speaker 1: is the reason why some of these wrestlers are like,
- 24:54Speaker 1: you know what, I'm done. I can retire, so U Yeah,
- 25:00Speaker 1: the next wave I think after the wave of you know,
- 25:04Speaker 1: we already have Sena and and and aj styles gone,
- 25:09Speaker 1: and I think the next wave would be like or
- 25:11Speaker 1: in finally our truth. You know, maybe you can put
- 25:15Speaker 1: them is up there. You know, there's a couple of
- 25:18Speaker 1: guys who are up there seeing Punk, you know, who
- 25:21Speaker 1: are the next guys out? But Roman and Seth ain't
- 25:26Speaker 1: that far away and not that far away from closing.
- 25:31Speaker 1: I you know, we definitely got another contract signing here too.
- 25:34Speaker 1: But as for like the clock ticking, I mean it's
- 25:42Speaker 1: never ending, man, these these guys, it's coming, It's coming,
- 25:46Speaker 1: and that's gonna be a sad day when I guess
- 25:47Speaker 1: see Seth rollins hang up the boots, a Roan rains,
- 25:50Speaker 1: hang up the vests, you know, like or Punk dude,
- 25:54Speaker 1: don't even get me started on me sad set man
- 25:57Speaker 1: when Punk hast to hang it up?
- 25:58Speaker 5: And yeah, that that's not too far away either, you
- 26:00Speaker 5: know what like like as much as I they're like.
- 26:04Speaker 5: And that's how you know somebody really affected you when
- 26:07Speaker 5: you can hate them as much as you do or
- 26:09Speaker 5: love them as much as you do. When they go
- 26:11Speaker 5: through there, you know, they're they're roller cruster, they're you know,
- 26:14Speaker 5: they're set of tricks. He'll face all that. Yeah, they're
- 26:21Speaker 5: gonna be sad, that's for sure. There gonna be some
- 26:23Speaker 5: tearsjerkers in there.
- 26:27Speaker 1: Yeah, what the hell are you gonna do? Man, It's
- 26:30Speaker 1: just it's I really think it's I had a lot
- 26:34Speaker 1: to do with t k O.
- 26:36Speaker 3: Uh.
- 26:37Speaker 1: This is the reason why a lot of these guys
- 26:41Speaker 1: are wrapping up their careers pretty soon. Excuse me, okay, yeah,
- 26:47Speaker 1: all right over.
- 26:48Speaker 5: There, Yeah, yep, I'm just I'm just allergic to the
- 26:50Speaker 5: bullshit that the t k O is is uh got
- 26:53Speaker 5: going on that's causing the you know, the mass exodus
- 26:59Speaker 5: both but with forceful and consenting or otherwise. You know,
- 27:07Speaker 5: it's not good business. It's not good entertainment, you know,
- 27:11Speaker 5: because you know, things that used to not be seen
- 27:18Speaker 5: behind the scenes, you know, can now be seen and
- 27:22Speaker 5: that doesn't look good. But that's all I would say.
- 27:31Speaker 1: What's up? Dry?
- 27:34Speaker 4: All right? So next match?
- 27:36Speaker 6: Yeah, we had Trick Williams once again, well not once again,
- 27:42Speaker 6: bro Trick Williams defending his newly won United States Championship
- 27:46Speaker 6: against Sammy Zane. This match went off for about thirteen minutes,
- 27:53Speaker 6: pretty straightforward.
- 27:54Speaker 4: Trick Williams obviously got the win, came out on top.
- 28:01Speaker 6: We're seeing sammy'se ain, I guess, lean a little bit
- 28:05Speaker 6: more into being a heel. I know there's uh I
- 28:09Speaker 6: did read a story that Sammy's apparently they they wanted
- 28:13Speaker 6: him to go full heel, and sammy'se ain kind of
- 28:15Speaker 6: rejected that because he feels like there's still some fans
- 28:18Speaker 6: that cheer for him and support him, so he's trying
- 28:21Speaker 6: to play somewhat I guess, of a gray area with
- 28:24Speaker 6: the fans where he's catering to the ones that still
- 28:27Speaker 6: support him or while being a bit of a heelish
- 28:31Speaker 6: thing in the ring, which I mean to me, that
- 28:35Speaker 6: kind of seems like Sammy's a little bit delusional to
- 28:40Speaker 6: me because the only real cheering that happens is when
- 28:44Speaker 6: your entrance hits and you know, fans yelled let's go.
- 28:47Speaker 6: But pretty much the second you get on the mic
- 28:49Speaker 6: and the second you get in the ring, they're bullding
- 28:50Speaker 6: Deligen shit out of your ass, so you can try
- 28:53Speaker 6: to hold on to whatever little bit of babyface you
- 28:55Speaker 6: think you've got left. But I think in most fans eyes,
- 28:58Speaker 6: you're a heel, especially measured up against Trick Williams.
- 29:01Speaker 4: So and that's kind of how it played out in
- 29:04Speaker 4: this match.
- 29:04Speaker 6: Pretty much everything he did, the fans booed the hell
- 29:07Speaker 6: out of everything Trick Williams did.
- 29:08Speaker 4: They cheered, and other than that, the match was pretty straightforward.
- 29:14Speaker 4: It wasn't.
- 29:18Speaker 6: I'd say it's probably it was maybe a little bit
- 29:19Speaker 6: better than their WrestleMania match because they gave him a
- 29:21Speaker 6: little bit more time to work with. I think, I
- 29:23Speaker 6: think compared to WrestleMania, what this one was about thirteen minutes.
- 29:28Speaker 6: Let's see if I can see real quick how long
- 29:30Speaker 6: their WrestleMania match was. Their WrestleMania match went on for
- 29:40Speaker 6: Oh yeah, she's damned there twice as long. The WrestleMania
- 29:43Speaker 6: match was just over seven minutes, whereas this one was
- 29:49Speaker 6: thirteen minutes. So yeah, much more time for them to
- 29:53Speaker 6: work with, which, in my opinion, led to an overall
- 29:56Speaker 6: better match. They were able to tell much more of
- 29:59Speaker 6: a story, even got a little bit of action from
- 30:01Speaker 6: Little Yatti in the match, but Sammy's ain't giving him
- 30:04Speaker 6: a halluva kick outside the ring to the back of
- 30:06Speaker 6: the head and all that.
- 30:08Speaker 4: So more time, better match.
- 30:13Speaker 1: No, Yeah, it was a better quality match for sure. Unfortunately,
- 30:19Speaker 1: I don't think we're done with this feud. Uh we
- 30:22Speaker 1: we God damn it. We had a funeral for a
- 30:26Speaker 1: gingerbread man the other day.
- 30:28Speaker 4: That was before the match, though, what was it. Yeah,
- 30:35Speaker 4: I think we actually are done with this feud.
- 30:37Speaker 1: Now, Okay, I yeah, I hope so man Like I
- 30:40Speaker 1: I like Trick and I want him to just get
- 30:42Speaker 1: fucking past the goofiness of this fucking gingerbread man ship.
- 30:46Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, dude, we had a funeral the other day.
- 30:51Speaker 1: The song was a little catchy, but still, uh, I
- 30:56Speaker 1: don't know what they're gonna do with Sammy now that
- 30:59Speaker 1: now that he you know, he can't get the United
- 31:01Speaker 1: States title the fans or boot him. He just can't
- 31:03Speaker 1: get over with the fans right now. So he's gonna
- 31:06Speaker 1: be heal Samy, But like what version of heal Sammy.
- 31:08Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna get like conspiracy theory Sammy, Like, yeah,
- 31:13Speaker 1: I don't know what we're getting And it's funny to
- 31:17Speaker 1: think at one point, you know Sammy's height, you know,
- 31:21Speaker 1: being like super over with the fans. He's like right
- 31:24Speaker 1: around the time he left, you know, the bloodline, I
- 31:29Speaker 1: think he was like super over. And now it's like
- 31:34Speaker 1: now when he his music comes out, I mean he
- 31:36Speaker 1: comes out and the music hits, it's like, you're right traight.
- 31:38Speaker 1: That one part in his Themes song is where everybody
- 31:41Speaker 1: sings a long and then and then that's it. That's it,
- 31:45Speaker 1: and he's getting booed, you know, not like Logan Paul
- 31:49Speaker 1: or Donald Stewart. He just go away or bored of
- 31:52Speaker 1: you Sammy. He uh. But I I hope Trick william
- 31:59Speaker 1: is also in fact the United States Open Challenge. That
- 32:04Speaker 1: would be cool, considering we have a man who's doing
- 32:06Speaker 1: that now with no title involved.
- 32:12Speaker 4: I disagree with you there.
- 32:14Speaker 1: You don't like the open challenge.
- 32:16Speaker 4: I don't think.
- 32:17Speaker 6: I don't think certain people can do open challenges. Certain
- 32:20Speaker 6: people don't need it. I don't think Trick Williams needs
- 32:22Speaker 6: an open challenge. I think he actually works better if
- 32:26Speaker 6: he's in a feud or storyline with somebody rather than
- 32:31Speaker 6: just hey, I'm out here to wrestle each week like
- 32:35Speaker 6: something like that works for guys who are who are
- 32:38Speaker 6: top tier in ring performers, like a Pento or a
- 32:41Speaker 6: Carmelo Hayes. They can go out there week by week
- 32:44Speaker 6: and just have a banger match with anybody. So for
- 32:47Speaker 6: the people like them, it open challenge works. Someone like
- 32:51Speaker 6: Trick Williams, who is a much stronger character than he
- 32:55Speaker 6: is in ring performer. Not to say that he's bad
- 32:57Speaker 6: in the ring, but he's not a again, he's not
- 33:01Speaker 6: a pint or Carmelo Hayes. A lot of his his
- 33:05Speaker 6: strength and his appeal is in his character work and
- 33:09Speaker 6: in his personality.
- 33:10Speaker 4: So that's what you need.
- 33:12Speaker 6: I think that's where you should lean in with him
- 33:13Speaker 6: as far as being a champion, and that will lend
- 33:15Speaker 6: it so towards him being more traditionally feud based in
- 33:20Speaker 6: his run rather than just match based.
- 33:24Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, I guess you're right.
- 33:28Speaker 3: Uh.
- 33:29Speaker 1: And you know Liliani is taking that Halluvac kicks from
- 33:32Speaker 1: the back of the fucking head. I was like, Okay,
- 33:35Speaker 1: he's getting his money's worth. Yeah, so he's still he's
- 33:41Speaker 1: still gonna hang around for a while. You know, I
- 33:44Speaker 1: think he might be what like his manager. I guess
- 33:48Speaker 1: the valet, his mouthpiece, his hype man. Yeah yeah, there's
- 33:53Speaker 1: multiple names you can have for it.
- 33:55Speaker 6: You know, his mouthpiece because strick Williams don't need a mouthpiece. Yeah,
- 33:58Speaker 6: I say exactly, buddy.
- 34:01Speaker 4: Yeah, I like lacky because he's not really a minion.
- 34:05Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, yeah, did we see Do you think
- 34:09Speaker 1: we'll see a Little Yachty at some point into a
- 34:12Speaker 1: a match, like a tag team match, get involved. No,
- 34:16Speaker 1: you don't see him getting.
- 34:17Speaker 5: Simply simply because at one point during the match, it
- 34:22Speaker 5: was when when Sammy's a and head trip Williams set
- 34:25Speaker 5: up between the two sets of steps and Sammy goes
- 34:28Speaker 5: over to attack Little YACHTI and Little Yachty immediately flinches,
- 34:33Speaker 5: immediately like balls up as he goes to the matt
- 34:36Speaker 5: and and like Sammy's like, you know, h hitting on
- 34:39Speaker 5: him and everything. Uh No, I don't think any of
- 34:43Speaker 5: this translates to in ring action for Little Yachtium.
- 34:48Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a fan, but I think he's content just
- 34:51Speaker 6: being the show, not being an in ring competitor by
- 34:55Speaker 6: any means.
- 34:57Speaker 5: Yep, Okay, I mean, don't get me wrong, Like it's
- 35:00Speaker 5: cool that he took he took boy spots. He took that,
- 35:03Speaker 5: and then, like you said earlier, the Halluba kick.
- 35:05Speaker 3: You know.
- 35:06Speaker 5: So the fact that he's willing to allow some level
- 35:10Speaker 5: of physicality is cool exactly.
- 35:13Speaker 4: But other than that, yeah, yeah, I mean I think
- 35:20Speaker 4: I think he's perfect where he's at.
- 35:22Speaker 7: Kyle, what did you think of this match? I mean,
- 35:24Speaker 7: I thought it was a pretty good match. I just, uh,
- 35:27Speaker 7: I just want the feud to be done and like,
- 35:28Speaker 7: like Dre says, is pretty much over. So now I'm
- 35:32Speaker 7: I'm like actually excited to see who he feuded with next. Yeah,
- 35:36Speaker 7: I'm not really all interested in where Sammy goes next. Way, Yeah,
- 35:42Speaker 7: take like give him, give him a break or something,
- 35:44Speaker 7: you know, write him off.
- 35:44Speaker 1: With an injury.
- 35:45Speaker 5: Like you know, I think there's a lot of times
- 35:50Speaker 5: you saw sam like Sammy, even though he's trying to
- 35:52Speaker 5: be the good guy. I think there's a lot of
- 35:54Speaker 5: times we saw him dip into the the heel bag
- 35:57Speaker 5: a little bit with his his tactics and his tendencies.
- 36:02Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong. You know when when Little YACHTI
- 36:04Speaker 5: is trying to have trick out, I get that's that's
- 36:06Speaker 5: kind of healish too, you know, But I you know,
- 36:11Speaker 5: I'm over Sammy's aane electric to his thing. It is
- 36:15Speaker 5: a good match, you know. I think both of them
- 36:17Speaker 5: were on point. I didn't really see like any misses
- 36:20Speaker 5: or anything like that, like any miscues or anything. I
- 36:25Speaker 5: was happy with it, you know. Uh, I think the
- 36:30Speaker 5: obvious choice as far as tricks next opponent is Carmela. Yeah,
- 36:36Speaker 5: just an idea. Uh, it seems pretty obvious to me.
- 36:40Speaker 5: I think it's something everybody would like to see. But
- 36:42Speaker 5: you know, yeah, I was happy with the match.
- 36:48Speaker 1: On to the next ye.
- 36:56Speaker 6: So that move on to the next match, which was
- 37:02Speaker 6: the tag team match featuring the Miz and Kit Wilson
- 37:06Speaker 6: versus Dan Housen and a mystery opponent. Mystery oponent who
- 37:12Speaker 6: turned out to be Minie housing miniature Dan Housen played
- 37:19Speaker 6: by uh miniature miniature Mexican luchador wrestler El Torito.
- 37:26Speaker 1: Is he the same one who played the little bull
- 37:29Speaker 1: that we used to have running around? Oh no, I
- 37:34Speaker 1: haven't think of another small luchador?
- 37:37Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, oh okay, Yeah, he.
- 37:42Speaker 1: Said he's definitely had history. He's definitely had history with
- 37:45Speaker 1: this company.
- 37:46Speaker 5: Then for sure, he was with the tag team guys
- 37:48Speaker 5: that were like the oh what decks I think you
- 37:53Speaker 5: do the bullfighters?
- 37:55Speaker 1: How much you want to bet? Seeing all this, all
- 37:58Speaker 1: this with midgets that horn Swagg was waiting by the
- 38:01Speaker 1: fucking phone any day now, man, any day miss need
- 38:06Speaker 1: the miss and Kit Wilson indeed another partner any day,
- 38:10Speaker 1: no other.
- 38:10Speaker 3: Guy tell me.
- 38:16Speaker 1: If he's not already like in the building, if he's
- 38:18Speaker 1: not already in the buildings. Yeah yeah, uh yeah, I
- 38:22Speaker 1: mean I didn't listen. Listen, I like Dan Housen, right,
- 38:27Speaker 1: I saw the heat that people were given this whole segment.
- 38:31Speaker 1: It's you have like you have to understand, like it's entertainment.
- 38:38Speaker 1: You need a little bit of entertainment between serious matches,
- 38:43Speaker 1: palette cleaners, if you will, you know. Uh. One of
- 38:51Speaker 1: the guys I read a Twitter posts said, let us
- 38:53Speaker 1: never forget that wrestling as we know it was born
- 38:56Speaker 1: from the circus. This is something I hate from so
- 38:59Speaker 1: call purist pro wrestling is designed to be a three
- 39:03Speaker 1: ring circus that has incredible athletes, but also comedians and
- 39:07Speaker 1: stuntmen and showmen and dancers and clowns. So, you know,
- 39:16Speaker 1: entertainment at its finest, and we've had way worse types
- 39:19Speaker 1: of entertainment in between matches, and to me this was
- 39:24Speaker 1: not bad. I thoroughly enjoyed this. You know, Dan, how's
- 39:28Speaker 1: it coming out in this little what seems to be
- 39:31Speaker 1: a lawnmower coffin. Uh, that's pretty cool. I guess the
- 39:42Speaker 1: everybody's expecting something bigger, somebody bigger, you know, bigger name
- 39:47Speaker 1: this show up in. That definitely was not the case.
- 39:49Speaker 1: But uh, midges, man, come on, Misses are funny and
- 39:53Speaker 1: not just one midget, several midgets. You know. I thought
- 39:57Speaker 1: one day when Kate wasn't threw him in the colony machine,
- 40:00Speaker 1: which we saw the other week, I think it was
- 40:03Speaker 1: on raw we saw the cloning machine, I thought he
- 40:06Speaker 1: was gonna be a bigger version, like a huge version
- 40:10Speaker 1: of Dan Housen or like maybe like a wrestler that
- 40:14Speaker 1: we know with Dan Housen makeup on. But no, they
- 40:18Speaker 1: want the Uh. The little people were oute and like
- 40:24Speaker 1: seeing miss like wrestle like a small guy and like
- 40:27Speaker 1: just like doing what like what only I can imagine
- 40:31Speaker 1: is like what I did with like my little brother.
- 40:33Speaker 1: You know, when you're a bigger when you were the
- 40:35Speaker 1: bigger brother and you're picking up like your your little brother,
- 40:38Speaker 1: or you're like cousin or something like that, and you're
- 40:40Speaker 1: just lifting, caring around like they're nothing. And that's what
- 40:43Speaker 1: MS was doing, just dominating, like he looked like he
- 40:47Speaker 1: MS was playing himself off as like a big wrestler.
- 40:51Speaker 1: Like I love how I handled it. But no, dude,
- 40:54Speaker 1: I anything Dan Housen wise, I I enjoy. You can't.
- 40:58Speaker 1: He can't go wrong with Dan House. Uh the whole
- 41:01Speaker 1: oh man, the the curse spot where Kit Wilson takes
- 41:05Speaker 1: out the mirror, the fucking mirror and uses the curse
- 41:09Speaker 1: against them. Dude, clever shit, it's genius. But go ahead, Tyler,
- 41:19Speaker 1: let's get your input on this.
- 41:20Speaker 5: Uh entertaining, you know, like you said, the purposes are
- 41:25Speaker 5: it was. It was supposed to serve, and that's that's
- 41:27Speaker 5: what it was. It was good.
- 41:30Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 41:31Speaker 5: I was just I was kind of disappointed too. By
- 41:36Speaker 5: this is gonna sound bad if I say it.
- 41:38Speaker 1: Ship.
- 41:40Speaker 5: I appreciate all Luca doors, big and small. I just
- 41:43Speaker 5: wasn't expecting a small Lucra door.
- 41:46Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 41:47Speaker 5: I was more along the line of like somebody huge,
- 41:49Speaker 5: like huge, or somebody that we wouldn't expect, or that
- 41:53Speaker 5: not even they expected to be there, you know, However,
- 41:56Speaker 5: this his quote unquote magic works. But it was a
- 42:02Speaker 5: good match. Uh Kit sold a couple spots really well
- 42:07Speaker 5: with the luchador or mini housing, and it was just
- 42:14Speaker 5: really good, really good match. Oh I was happy with it.
- 42:22Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean the match was entertaining, yes, and good
- 42:28Speaker 6: choice for them to use an actual Mexican luchador so
- 42:32Speaker 6: we can go out there and actually perform as opposed
- 42:35Speaker 6: to some random, you know, stunt person that could just
- 42:39Speaker 6: be tossed around. So credit to them for that. Again,
- 42:42Speaker 6: like you said, the mirror spot was funny, reversing the curse.
- 42:48Speaker 6: Also them throwing uh well, mini housing going into the
- 42:52Speaker 6: cloning chamber, then it turning back on and then a
- 42:55Speaker 6: bunch of mini houses coming out of it. I thought
- 42:58Speaker 6: that was funny as well. It was a fun, entertaining match.
- 43:04Speaker 6: I just don't know that it needed to be on
- 43:07Speaker 6: this pl I mean I think it would be. I
- 43:11Speaker 6: think for a lot of people, it would be much
- 43:13Speaker 6: more tolerable if we were still in the age of
- 43:18Speaker 6: seven eight match pls like we used to have, and
- 43:23Speaker 6: then you know, you can throw this in there as
- 43:26Speaker 6: an entertainment break or whatever and it's okay. But in
- 43:30Speaker 6: this day and age where we're only getting four to
- 43:32Speaker 6: five matches per PL over half the show is commercials
- 43:38Speaker 6: and ads and other bullshit. So actual wrestling, actual matches
- 43:45Speaker 6: are a real premium right now. And when you use
- 43:49Speaker 6: one of those few spots and there's a never ending
- 43:53Speaker 6: list of people complaints about you know, so and so
- 43:57Speaker 6: not getting a match, this person not getting matched, this
- 43:59Speaker 6: title not being defended, that title not being defended on
- 44:01Speaker 6: pli's this, that, and the third. In this day and
- 44:04Speaker 6: age where these spots are at such a premium, I
- 44:08Speaker 6: don't know there's something that a match like this needed
- 44:10Speaker 6: to happen on a pl.
- 44:13Speaker 4: This could have happened on SmackDown.
- 44:15Speaker 6: You got a whole three hours of SmackDown to fill in,
- 44:19Speaker 6: right This could have happened on SmackDown and been just fine,
- 44:23Speaker 6: especially on the go home show. I think this would
- 44:27Speaker 6: have been better on the go home SmackDown as a
- 44:30Speaker 6: nice entertainment way to fill in those three hours with
- 44:33Speaker 6: something fun and entertaining and save you know, the actual
- 44:40Speaker 6: I don't want to say real matches, gouda sounds disparaging
- 44:43Speaker 6: to these, but, for lack of a better term, the
- 44:46Speaker 6: real matches, save those for the actual Poleague.
- 44:51Speaker 1: Right, Well, I mean he got paid four hundred bucks, right,
- 44:55Speaker 1: I mean that was the end four hundred human dollars
- 44:58Speaker 1: or I don't know what that is in pesos.
- 45:00Speaker 5: Yes, but uh.
- 45:03Speaker 1: And did he have to share it or did he
- 45:05Speaker 1: have to split it with the other the other midgets?
- 45:08Speaker 5: He had to give it to the coyote to get
- 45:09Speaker 5: him back into Mexico.
- 45:11Speaker 1: Ah, dud good, good, good good. Yeah, give me more,
- 45:18Speaker 1: Dan Housen, Give me more, Dan Housen. Uh yeah, it's
- 45:26Speaker 1: I got for that.
- 45:28Speaker 6: Let's move along, right, next match, EO Sky versus Oscar,
- 45:37Speaker 6: the match that should have happened at WrestleMania. Instead we
- 45:41Speaker 6: got it here at Backlash, second longest match of the
- 45:47Speaker 6: night at just over eighteen minutes. And this match, it
- 45:54Speaker 6: was a good match. It was a really good match.
- 45:57Speaker 6: I don't want to say pretend for the moment like
- 46:00Speaker 6: the match wasn't great. I think my expectations were probably
- 46:05Speaker 6: a little bit too high for the match, because even.
- 46:08Speaker 4: Afterwards I was like kind of just wandered a little
- 46:11Speaker 4: bit more.
- 46:12Speaker 6: But again I'll blame that on my own expectations rather
- 46:15Speaker 6: than the match itself.
- 46:16Speaker 4: What we actually got in the match was excellent.
- 46:18Speaker 6: There was a very high quality match, lots of ring psychology,
- 46:24Speaker 6: excellent moves. At the moment where Oscar went for the
- 46:29Speaker 6: mist and EO blocked it with Wade Barrett's notepad, you
- 46:34Speaker 6: know thought that was, you know, a brilliant spot. Ultimately
- 46:38Speaker 6: EO Scott came out on top. And then what got
- 46:42Speaker 6: everybody talking was what happened afterwards, where you know, EO
- 46:48Speaker 6: and Oscar embraced in the ring. Oscar appeared to be
- 46:51Speaker 6: very emotional after the match, and as she exited the ring,
- 46:57Speaker 6: she kind of waved to the fans and was waving
- 46:59Speaker 6: to them she walked up the ramps. Come to find
- 47:02Speaker 6: out Monday, we get the backstage segment between EO and
- 47:06Speaker 6: Oscar where they again reconcile, hug, show love to each other,
- 47:14Speaker 6: and Oscar basically says goodbye and walks out the.
- 47:17Speaker 4: Door with her with her gear.
- 47:22Speaker 6: Now, the word is that she has not officially retired,
- 47:27Speaker 6: is that she's somewhere between, depending on what report or
- 47:31Speaker 6: whatever you read, she's either on hiatus or semi retired,
- 47:36Speaker 6: basically going back to Japan to take care of some
- 47:39Speaker 6: personal matters. Somewhere in that REALMO speculation, we don't know
- 47:44Speaker 6: definitively what it is. All we know is that Oscar
- 47:48Speaker 6: is gone for now and we have no idea when
- 47:53Speaker 6: or if she will return, but more than likely it
- 47:56Speaker 6: will not be anytime soon at all.
- 48:00Speaker 4: So that's where things stand at this point.
- 48:07Speaker 6: Uh, the match yourself again, this was the last match
- 48:11Speaker 6: we get from Oscar at least for a good while.
- 48:14Speaker 4: She went out with a banger.
- 48:18Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely a highlight. I think maybe one of one
- 48:21Speaker 1: of the best matches in the night, to be honest. Uh,
- 48:25Speaker 1: these two haven't gone one on one for almost three years.
- 48:29Speaker 2: Uh.
- 48:30Speaker 1: It was very well balanced, especially with their counters and
- 48:34Speaker 1: the holds. I totally digged the the and I think
- 48:40Speaker 1: I called it too like that she was gonna be
- 48:42Speaker 1: able to block Oscar's miss She learned her lesson after
- 48:45Speaker 1: getting spitting the face multiple times, you know, spitting my
- 48:49Speaker 1: face once, you know, and call me a fool and
- 48:52Speaker 1: then spit in my face three more times, you know,
- 48:55Speaker 1: or whatever the saying is. Uh, poor Wade Barrett gets
- 49:01Speaker 1: his gets his briefcase backer is whatever it was, Come on, man,
- 49:06Speaker 1: like Jesus, it's got all this blue stuff on it.
- 49:10Speaker 1: Uh huh. Yeah, I enjoyed the match. Man I don't.
- 49:15Speaker 1: I don't think Uh, Oscar's yeah, you know, gone for good.
- 49:19Speaker 1: Like you said, she's going to Japan take care of
- 49:21Speaker 1: some stuff, some personal size. They still like really announceablely. Yeah,
- 49:26Speaker 1: if it's personal, we were not going to really get
- 49:28Speaker 1: her answer. But Oscar's in her forties, you know, she's
- 49:33Speaker 1: it is on the realm of possibility of her wrapping
- 49:36Speaker 1: up her career entirely, So I don't think that's not possible. Yeah,
- 49:43Speaker 1: I mean, at least she was able to get some
- 49:45Speaker 1: time off and not let go. I just don't understand
- 49:51Speaker 1: why we couldn't have conclude this whole storyline with Kyrie.
- 49:55Speaker 1: Why she needs to be let go before this could
- 49:58Speaker 1: have been concluded. But as I was watching the match,
- 50:03Speaker 1: what do you do you think anything would have been
- 50:05Speaker 1: different with Kyrie involved? You know? Or we were we
- 50:09Speaker 1: better off with her not involved in this match? You
- 50:12Speaker 1: know who knows? I mean, it's gone, so I guess
- 50:19Speaker 1: we can never tell.
- 50:21Speaker 4: But uh.
- 50:25Speaker 1: Bell bell Man, Banger Tyler, what do you you agree?
- 50:30Speaker 1: And you disagreeing? Did you hate this match? But what's up?
- 50:32Speaker 5: I was absolutely livid the entire time.
- 50:34Speaker 1: I wanted to throw up son of a bitch, I.
- 50:36Speaker 5: Know several times. Uh, it was just terrible, absolutely terrible. No, uh,
- 50:42Speaker 5: quite the opposite of everything. I thought it was a
- 50:46Speaker 5: great match.
- 50:46Speaker 4: You know.
- 50:47Speaker 5: I don't know that I put it out there with
- 50:48Speaker 5: the matches.
- 50:48Speaker 4: Of the year, but.
- 50:51Speaker 5: It was, you know, like you said, from Bell to Bell,
- 50:55Speaker 5: a great match. I think it. It really put a
- 50:59Speaker 5: nice bow on this story. You know, obviously there are
- 51:05Speaker 5: things ahead for Leo, whatever lies ahead for Oscar, who knows,
- 51:11Speaker 5: you know. I mean, there's so much opportunity. But you know,
- 51:20Speaker 5: I did have my little rant earlier, so that's what
- 51:22Speaker 5: I'll say. Yeah, I was happy with it.
- 51:27Speaker 1: I think it was cool with the you know yo,
- 51:31Speaker 1: when she goes to that awesome moon saw, I saw
- 51:34Speaker 1: it didn't really work out too well when Oscar tried
- 51:36Speaker 1: to get her into that the arm bar locker. I
- 51:39Speaker 1: guess it would just I mean, she eventually got it in,
- 51:42Speaker 1: but yeah, the time was just a little off. Yeah. Yeah,
- 51:46Speaker 1: it was really cool man, really good match. But go ahead,
- 51:52Speaker 1: dread take it away.
- 51:55Speaker 4: All right.
- 51:56Speaker 6: Well, moving on from that to the final match of
- 51:58Speaker 6: the night main event, Roman Reigns defending the World Heavyweight
- 52:03Speaker 6: Championship against Jacob Fatu. Match that went on for just
- 52:07Speaker 6: under eighteen minutes and match definitely delivered it. I mean
- 52:17Speaker 6: it was a bangover match. Roman made Jacob Patu look
- 52:20Speaker 6: like a million bucks in that ring seemed like it
- 52:23Speaker 6: seemed like everything Roman threw at Jacob Fatu he just
- 52:26Speaker 6: ate it and kept on coming. It's everything that Roman
- 52:30Speaker 6: had to get the win and remain champion. I think
- 52:36Speaker 6: the match served everybody well. Roman again, Roman has another
- 52:41Speaker 6: great match. Probably if you think about the length of
- 52:46Speaker 6: this World Heavyweight Championship and all the people that have
- 52:50Speaker 6: held the belt and all the matches that have been held.
- 52:53Speaker 4: Defending in the events of this title.
- 52:55Speaker 6: I'm not gonna say that this is the best world
- 52:57Speaker 6: title match championship match Belta's head in its history, but
- 53:03Speaker 6: it's probably up there. I think this match is probably
- 53:09Speaker 6: maybe in the top five, maybe top three. The only
- 53:13Speaker 6: ones I can think of off the top of my
- 53:15Speaker 6: head that might have been better than this one was the.
- 53:19Speaker 4: Was the last man standing match between what was that
- 53:23Speaker 4: Seth Rollins and shit? I can't remember who his opponent was?
- 53:30Speaker 6: Was it Seth Rollins and Drew McIntyre perhaps, And was
- 53:35Speaker 6: it Punk? I don't I don't think it was punk.
- 53:41Speaker 6: This was earlier on in the in the titles history.
- 53:44Speaker 6: The reason why I remember the it being a last
- 53:46Speaker 6: man standing matches because that uh.
- 53:50Speaker 4: What you call it.
- 53:52Speaker 6: This was when Damian Priest was still uh had mister
- 53:56Speaker 6: money in the bank.
- 53:57Speaker 4: And I remember the matches. I remember I wanted to
- 54:00Speaker 4: cash in at the end of the match.
- 54:03Speaker 6: I don't know blanking on it right now, but that's
- 54:06Speaker 6: probably that one match I think is probably the best
- 54:09Speaker 6: world title match this belt has had.
- 54:11Speaker 4: But again, this one was up there.
- 54:13Speaker 6: This was a strong match, an absolute banger. Jacob Fatu
- 54:18Speaker 6: looked like a million bucks. Don't really know much more
- 54:22Speaker 6: to say about this match, because obviously this feud is
- 54:25Speaker 6: still continuing because Jacob Fatu did not acknowledge Roman on Monday.
- 54:32Speaker 4: In fact, he whooped up on Jimmy, whooped up on Jay, whooped.
- 54:36Speaker 6: Up on Roman, put the tongue of death grip back
- 54:39Speaker 6: on him, put all three of them through the barricade, and.
- 54:44Speaker 4: Looks like we'll probably be.
- 54:46Speaker 6: Running this match back at I don't know what Passionate
- 54:51Speaker 6: Italy maybe, or or Saturday Night main event or.
- 54:55Speaker 4: Next peally is Italy right at the end of.
- 54:58Speaker 6: This month, No an eight main event event is like
- 55:02Speaker 6: next Saturday, but right after another p l E.
- 55:06Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 55:06Speaker 1: Uh, that's ridiculous, right, Like how close these these p
- 55:12Speaker 1: l E s are together? Because yeah, Saturday Night main event.
- 55:21Speaker 4: That let's be real, most people probably didn't even know
- 55:23Speaker 4: what's happening before.
- 55:24Speaker 1: Monday, No, because I didn't even know, only like.
- 55:30Speaker 6: The next pl Yeah, and that's at the end of
- 55:33Speaker 6: this month. Okay, yeah, so next So backlash just happened
- 55:38Speaker 6: this past weekend. Yeah, next weekend is Saturday Night main Event,
- 55:43Speaker 6: and then at the end of this month is Clashing Italy.
- 55:46Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 55:46Speaker 6: Okay, wow, fucking make it makes sense how he's supposed
- 55:51Speaker 6: to do any type of storytelling. I mean, I guess
- 55:54Speaker 6: you can do storytelling, but you have to stretch it
- 55:56Speaker 6: across multiple shows.
- 55:58Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why it seems it's a lot of.
- 56:02Speaker 4: It kind of not mean much because you know, it's
- 56:04Speaker 4: just it's just a page in a story.
- 56:09Speaker 6: So it kind of takes away from this match from
- 56:11Speaker 6: I mean, as good as the match was, it kind
- 56:14Speaker 6: of makes it relatively inconsequential.
- 56:20Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this is what happens when you try
- 56:23Speaker 1: to rush storylines. Granted, you know, keep out Oscar and
- 56:29Speaker 1: EO and and Seth and Braun. You know, those are
- 56:33Speaker 1: special cases where they have been built over a long
- 56:36Speaker 1: period of time. But yeah, just these back to back
- 56:40Speaker 1: to back to back to back, you know, like pls,
- 56:42Speaker 1: just give me a fucking break as a fan, give
- 56:46Speaker 1: me a break. Give the wrestlers a fucking break.
- 56:50Speaker 2: Uh.
- 56:50Speaker 1: It's intense, man, It's intense. So uh yeah, dude, this match.
- 57:00Speaker 1: Uh enjoyed the hell out of the the uh you know,
- 57:07Speaker 1: Roman going for the the spear and it being turned
- 57:10Speaker 1: into a Samoan drop was pretty awesome. You know the
- 57:14Speaker 1: fact that he'd no cell Jacob Puto no cell the
- 57:17Speaker 1: the Superman punch, the first Superman punch, you know, there's
- 57:21Speaker 1: on one count kicked out immediately. I I think Jacob
- 57:27Speaker 1: Fatu's moon salt is fucking phenomenal for his size. He
- 57:31Speaker 1: makes it look so smooth, you know, it's very impressive,
- 57:35Speaker 1: I think for his size. Uh. You know, we got
- 57:39Speaker 1: we got the the table spot, of course, which seems
- 57:42Speaker 1: to be maybe a little overdone table spots. Uh And
- 57:46Speaker 1: and I'm not a fan of these new tables because
- 57:49Speaker 1: sometimes these new tables don't want to break, uh and
- 57:54Speaker 1: and sometimes they break way too easily. So I'm not
- 57:57Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of these newer tables an yeah, yeah,
- 58:03Speaker 1: the announced table, you know, it just seems I know,
- 58:06Speaker 1: they're built different now. And sometimes these wrestlers are getting
- 58:09Speaker 1: up there and performing a move and you know, the
- 58:12Speaker 1: table doesn't break, and they have to go up and
- 58:14Speaker 1: do it again. And I'm sure there's some sort of
- 58:17Speaker 1: thing they have to put underneath the table to make it,
- 58:20Speaker 1: you know, break so easily. But whatever it is, but yeah,
- 58:26Speaker 1: this message.
- 58:28Speaker 4: Not break, yeah unexpectedly.
- 58:32Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. We've seen that before. A wrestler
- 58:35Speaker 1: just just standing on it and it fucking breaks. But yeah,
- 58:41Speaker 1: you know, uh Roman with with the wind, with this
- 58:44Speaker 1: with the uh superman punch, you know, spear typical Roman match.
- 58:50Speaker 1: Roman wins, uh Jacob for two, loses his ship after
- 58:54Speaker 1: the match and continues to beat Roman, which is funny
- 58:57Speaker 1: because if you missed the p but you get you know,
- 59:01Speaker 1: like some spoiler pictures, the picture of Jacob Fatu standing
- 59:06Speaker 1: over Roman with the world title looks very much like
- 59:09Speaker 1: a spoiler, like, oh, so spoiled, Like Jacob won and
- 59:13Speaker 1: you find out no he didn't. He was very sour afterwards,
- 59:18Speaker 1: and like you said, Dre, like we found out like
- 59:20Speaker 1: on SmackDown, like he did not acknowledge the tribal chief.
- 59:24Speaker 1: You know, I said as soon as Shakeup came out there,
- 59:27Speaker 1: it's like, okay, you have fifty to fifty chance of
- 59:30Speaker 1: either joining the bloodline. That's where your character goes. Now,
- 59:34Speaker 1: now it's you do Usso's and Roman. I mean that's
- 59:37Speaker 1: held bloodline right there. But uh, or you go the
- 59:40Speaker 1: other route where you do not acknowledge a Roman. This
- 59:43Speaker 1: few continues. You you continue to give resistance to Roman,
- 59:48Speaker 1: you know. But so, okay, this is that's the route
- 59:51Speaker 1: we're going to go. I'm content, you know, there's we
- 59:55Speaker 1: can still do more at this. I know sometimes it
- 59:58Speaker 1: seems like Roman and Jacob doesn't I don't have chemistry together,
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: but I think we're getting something here. Uh because.
- 1:00:09Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna give the wind Jacob anytime soon.
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: As much as I want main of him to be
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: a main event guy, I just don't think so. Uh
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: and SmackDown. He fucking Jacob took up all both who
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: shows in Roman all by himself, no problem, no help,
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: you know. On Yeah, I was on raw and then uh,
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: you know, I I do like how he he says, uh,
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: you know who called me? Who brought me here? You
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: know who answered the phone? Solo brought me here, you know.
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: But then Roman was saying the other week that you know,
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: I brought her, I brought him in. I could take
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: him out. It's like, wait a second, I thought Solo
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: brought him in. I was like, hmmm, I'm well confused here,
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: but maybe they got their effects not so straight, uh,
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: Tyler for a main event, how did you take this?
- 1:01:11Speaker 5: I bet it was really good. As has pointed out,
- 1:01:16Speaker 5: Jacob's no cells on on quite a few of Roman's
- 1:01:20Speaker 5: attempts to you know, subdue them, We're uh, brilliant, excuse me.
- 1:01:27Speaker 5: It was a It was a pretty physical match, a
- 1:01:33Speaker 5: lot of ground and pound like they didn't not a
- 1:01:35Speaker 5: lot of like you know from the corner wrote yeah,
- 1:01:38Speaker 5: you know, stuff like that. I think at one point
- 1:01:43Speaker 5: that Roman went into his bag and pulled out the
- 1:01:46Speaker 5: dry by. That was pretty cool to see you again
- 1:01:49Speaker 5: because we haven't seen that in a while.
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: But yeah, it was.
- 1:01:55Speaker 5: It was a good match. And obvious, you know that's
- 1:01:57Speaker 5: pointed out again. Obviously he's gonna he's gonna may be
- 1:02:00Speaker 5: something that keeps going on. As evident by the way
- 1:02:03Speaker 5: it ended, I'm happy with it. Uh. As mister Wayne
- 1:02:08Speaker 5: pointed out, we get to watch the watch it grow
- 1:02:13Speaker 5: into something, you know, and that's whether or not Jake
- 1:02:17Speaker 5: would ever have a title run. I don't know either,
- 1:02:21Speaker 5: but I was pleased with it, and I was happy
- 1:02:23Speaker 5: with it.
- 1:02:27Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:02:27Speaker 6: I think there is space for a Jacobatu title run
- 1:02:31Speaker 6: at some point.
- 1:02:33Speaker 4: I just don't know that it's right now. It because.
- 1:02:41Speaker 6: I think the only problem with doing it right now
- 1:02:43Speaker 6: is Summer Slam. If if the plan for Summer Slam.
- 1:02:50Speaker 6: Obviously there's you know, no guarantee that this is going
- 1:02:55Speaker 6: to happen or no proof or anything that this is
- 1:02:58Speaker 6: going to happen. But if SummerSlam is going to have
- 1:03:02Speaker 6: Oba Femmi challenging for the world title, what's the bigger
- 1:03:06Speaker 6: match Obo versus Roman reigns or Obo versus Jacob Patu.
- 1:03:14Speaker 6: Obviously it's Oba challenging Roman for the title. It's the
- 1:03:16Speaker 6: bigger match. Oba versus Jacob pat Tu could be interesting,
- 1:03:21Speaker 6: you know, if somehow Jacob Patu, say he defeats Roman
- 1:03:26Speaker 6: at Clash in Italy, becomes world champion and then just
- 1:03:29Speaker 6: becomes this absolute terror all summer where he's just you know,
- 1:03:35Speaker 6: showing no respect, no regard for Adam Pierce doing whatever
- 1:03:38Speaker 6: he wants, kicking ass and taking names, defeating one. I
- 1:03:43Speaker 6: don't know who would challenge Jacob between now and then,
- 1:03:47Speaker 6: because obviously he can't just be champion and then have
- 1:03:50Speaker 6: no title defenses between Italy and SummerSlam.
- 1:03:54Speaker 4: So i'll.
- 1:03:56Speaker 6: Does Roman challenge Jacob begin and then lose, giving Jacob
- 1:03:59Speaker 6: two out of three three wins over Roman or something
- 1:04:03Speaker 6: like that, I mean one that that could kind of
- 1:04:06Speaker 6: start to get boring if you know, you run that
- 1:04:09Speaker 6: back too many times. So I think that's where the
- 1:04:14Speaker 6: problem lies with Jacob as the champion is it might
- 1:04:21Speaker 6: be a cool moment when you when it happens, but
- 1:04:24Speaker 6: then what you know, who are his challengers?
- 1:04:27Speaker 4: Who challenges him?
- 1:04:30Speaker 6: You can figure out what the endgame would be, But
- 1:04:34Speaker 6: what's the feeling, What's what's what's the meat in between
- 1:04:37Speaker 6: the two slices of bread. That's the harder part to
- 1:04:40Speaker 6: figure out. And I think that's what goes against Jacob
- 1:04:47Speaker 6: fatu title run at this point, whereas Roman, obviously he's
- 1:04:52Speaker 6: a champion, defends you know, if you need to buy time.
- 1:04:56Speaker 6: Everybody's used to him being part time so he steps
- 1:04:58Speaker 6: away for a moment. Although he has said he's going
- 1:05:01Speaker 6: to be a full time champion and so far he's
- 1:05:02Speaker 6: lived up to that.
- 1:05:04Speaker 4: Worked every raw so far.
- 1:05:07Speaker 6: People thought he might not be working June, but apparently
- 1:05:09Speaker 6: that's changed and he will be working through June.
- 1:05:12Speaker 4: So you know, you can figure that part out.
- 1:05:15Speaker 6: I don't know how you figure out a Jacobatu title
- 1:05:18Speaker 6: run after him becoming champion and what to do between
- 1:05:22Speaker 6: him being champion and presumably losing the title to an
- 1:05:27Speaker 6: ober Femi.
- 1:05:27Speaker 4: Possibly that's the only problem with.
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: It, the over Femi problem. Oh boy. Yeah, this week
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: we had ober Femi. Nobody wanted to come out, so
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: he went in the back and grabbed Humberto and Angel
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: Garzam drag their asses out like that. That's what we
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: got to. That's the problem, man, Like nobody wants to
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: fight you. Here's the thing is, like you don't have
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: a title. If you have a title, it's something worth
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: fighting for. I understand. Being ober Femi would be like
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: amazing dragging rights, right, you get you go to the
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: open Challenge and you're the first guy to pin him
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: on the main roster. But other than that, like no,
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: unless you like I say, if this man had a
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: title like let to the United States Title and he
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: included the Open Challenge again, that would be interesting, that
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: would be very interesting. But right now it's just I
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. I don't know who's gonna
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: come out next week. They barely They didn't have anybody
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: who wanted to come out this week. They had to
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: go find somebody. So where do you go from here.
- 1:06:33Speaker 5: With I just thought about it. What do you I
- 1:06:36Speaker 5: think I know, I think I know where this is headed.
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: Where he's running this.
- 1:06:40Speaker 5: Whole, this whole excuse excuse me, he's running this whole
- 1:06:46Speaker 5: open challenging ambit. So we we also, during the course
- 1:06:51Speaker 5: of backlash, got introduced to the Johnsena Classic.
- 1:06:55Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about that next.
- 1:06:58Speaker 5: So what if Open Family goes on to win the
- 1:07:01Speaker 5: JOHNSONA Classic and the heavily hinted at title that comes
- 1:07:06Speaker 5: with said win, right, and then that becomes a part
- 1:07:11Speaker 5: of his Open Challenge?
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: Huh yeah, I don't Uh, Dre, do you have any
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: notes on this on this John Cena Classic, because I
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: know we discussed like what Johnson's big announcement was. His
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: announcement was this John Cena Classic.
- 1:07:32Speaker 6: From what I remember is that I guess it's going
- 1:07:37Speaker 6: to be a tournament style or competition thing. It's going
- 1:07:43Speaker 6: to showcase president stars against future stars and then fans.
- 1:07:51Speaker 4: I guess.
- 1:07:51Speaker 6: The kicker to this is that fans will vote to
- 1:07:54Speaker 6: crown the inaugural champion from a pool of participants. So
- 1:08:01Speaker 6: you have a bunch of showcase matches, and I guess
- 1:08:04Speaker 6: after these showcase matches, I don't know if this is
- 1:08:07Speaker 6: I guess. I don't know if it's gonna be tournament
- 1:08:09Speaker 6: style or if it's just gonna be a series of
- 1:08:11Speaker 6: matches where current star wars future star, current starverars a
- 1:08:14Speaker 6: future star or whatever, and then afterwards fans vote for
- 1:08:17Speaker 6: who they want to be the champion. That makes no
- 1:08:21Speaker 6: fucking sense whatsoever.
- 1:08:25Speaker 3: I mean.
- 1:08:25Speaker 6: Credit to John Cena. He made a He gave it
- 1:08:28Speaker 6: a good pitch to make it seem like it's something,
- 1:08:30Speaker 6: but it's anytime you involve fan voting, it's just gonna
- 1:08:36Speaker 6: be a popularity contest. Fans aren't gonna vote with any
- 1:08:39Speaker 6: type of discretion or anything like that. They're just gonna
- 1:08:42Speaker 6: vote for whoever whatever star is in the tournament that
- 1:08:45Speaker 6: they like the most, even if that even if that
- 1:08:50Speaker 6: person puts on a stinker of a match, Like let's
- 1:08:55Speaker 6: just say hypothetically.
- 1:08:56Speaker 4: You know, Oba Fimbi is in this match in this
- 1:08:58Speaker 4: John Cena Classic.
- 1:09:00Speaker 6: He's in it, and he has the match with say
- 1:09:04Speaker 6: they classify him as a quote unquote future star, and
- 1:09:07Speaker 6: he was a match with a current star. Who the
- 1:09:12Speaker 6: fuck it is? I don't I don't know, say they
- 1:09:17Speaker 6: put him in a match with Say they put him
- 1:09:22Speaker 6: on a match.
- 1:09:22Speaker 4: With like l A.
- 1:09:23Speaker 6: Knight just just as they say L. A. Knight's a
- 1:09:27Speaker 6: current star, Oh it was a future star. They put
- 1:09:29Speaker 6: him in a match with l. A. Knight and say
- 1:09:31Speaker 6: the match is just okay. But then say, on the
- 1:09:36Speaker 6: other side, we get Carmelo Hayes and a match with
- 1:09:43Speaker 6: a seth Rollins and they go out there and put
- 1:09:47Speaker 6: on a fucking banger of a match. You think the
- 1:09:51Speaker 6: fans are gonna vote for Carmelo Hayes as their inaug
- 1:09:54Speaker 6: world champion because he had the better match, even says
- 1:10:00Speaker 6: Robins Wins. Are they going to vote for Carmelo Hayes
- 1:10:02Speaker 6: as the inaugural champion because he had this phenomenal match
- 1:10:05Speaker 6: and a losing effort over ob Who's more.
- 1:10:10Speaker 4: Popular, Right, do you really trust the fans to do that?
- 1:10:15Speaker 4: I don't.
- 1:10:16Speaker 5: I don't. I don't like the whole idea of the voting,
- 1:10:19Speaker 5: like because to me, like at the at the end
- 1:10:22Speaker 5: of the day, it takes out of the honor of
- 1:10:27Speaker 5: actually having fought to want something, because what's the point
- 1:10:31Speaker 5: of going through all that action then and being the
- 1:10:34Speaker 5: last person standing. And whether it's like a dual gender
- 1:10:37Speaker 5: thing or if it's just gonna be for the men,
- 1:10:39Speaker 5: you know, I don't know that actually is a good
- 1:10:43Speaker 5: point to bring up, A good question, but anyway, Yeah, everything.
- 1:10:48Speaker 6: You put into this is probably gonna be a men's
- 1:10:50Speaker 6: and women's yeah, classic, We just don't know if it's
- 1:10:55Speaker 6: going to be just a series of showcase matches or
- 1:10:57Speaker 6: if it's going to be a tournament style thing.
- 1:11:00Speaker 5: Right, A good point. Yeah, everything you put into earning
- 1:11:06Speaker 5: that title and and beating the last one standing just
- 1:11:08Speaker 5: to get just to get out voted on something and
- 1:11:12Speaker 5: lose to somebody that didn't make it to the last
- 1:11:15Speaker 5: spot that you did, and that probably I don't agree with.
- 1:11:21Speaker 6: And I'm pretty sure even with whoever wins this thing,
- 1:11:26Speaker 6: it's not gonna be an actual defendable title like, how
- 1:11:29Speaker 6: do you defend a fan voted title? Fans voted for me,
- 1:11:33Speaker 6: and now I defend it, and if I lose it,
- 1:11:35Speaker 6: then what the fan voting didn't mean anything anymore? Oh,
- 1:11:39Speaker 6: it's just gonna be a ceremonial title, like the Crown
- 1:11:42Speaker 6: Jewel Championship, like the Andre the Giant Battle Royal thing.
- 1:11:47Speaker 6: It's just gonna be this ceremonial thing that Hey, I
- 1:11:50Speaker 6: wondered that somebody can walk out and just brag about
- 1:11:53Speaker 6: for a few weeks. I wanted to jump to Classic YadA.
- 1:11:57Speaker 5: Okay, whatever, unless unless, like the voting aspect of it,
- 1:12:04Speaker 5: is meant for the purpose of finding the inaugural champion
- 1:12:11Speaker 5: and it is a defendible champion championship.
- 1:12:17Speaker 4: But again, how does that make any sense?
- 1:12:20Speaker 5: I I, you know, I'm not a fan voted title.
- 1:12:24Speaker 4: And then once you lose it, then what does the
- 1:12:28Speaker 4: fan what did the what did the fan vote mean? Yeah?
- 1:12:31Speaker 4: That's what I mean, just taking place.
- 1:12:32Speaker 6: To you on the card, Like, where does it. It's
- 1:12:36Speaker 6: not going to be as prestigious as the US title.
- 1:12:39Speaker 6: It's not going to be as prestigious as the i
- 1:12:40Speaker 6: C title. Is that something you really want to put
- 1:12:44Speaker 6: on somebody? Like that that somebody like an oble Fami
- 1:12:47Speaker 6: should be wearing. I'm the Johnson Champion Champion.
- 1:12:53Speaker 5: Finding the placement amongst all the other title defenses that
- 1:12:57Speaker 5: are already you know, have to be balanced would be
- 1:13:00Speaker 5: pain in the ass. But that yeah, yeah, I don't know.
- 1:13:06Speaker 5: It was just an idea because like I said, then
- 1:13:09Speaker 5: that then that would segue into OVI fame, you know,
- 1:13:14Speaker 5: him dominating the tournament. However they do it. He wins,
- 1:13:20Speaker 5: gets a title, and then boom his Open challenge and
- 1:13:23Speaker 5: now has a meaning because he's standing there as a
- 1:13:27Speaker 5: representative of the johnsena Classic title. So littue respect on
- 1:13:31Speaker 5: that da all that stuff.
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess we'll see. I mean, I don't know
- 1:13:40Speaker 1: when this is supposed to take place. How how much
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: longer we got to wait? Are they're still working out
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: the kinks? I will say when Johnston is like, I'm
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: going to put my name on this and my stamp
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: of approval, and I was like, I had a good idea,
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: too soon for that. I wanted to pull that trigger.
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: So ah two weeks later, Yeah, really, so we'll see
- 1:14:06Speaker 1: where it goes.
- 1:14:09Speaker 6: As I've said, the path for over Femi is obvious,
- 1:14:13Speaker 6: but they're just probably not going to go down that path.
- 1:14:17Speaker 6: If you're not going to put a belt on them,
- 1:14:18Speaker 6: then you got to give them some title or something
- 1:14:21Speaker 6: that gives them a pathway towards the world title. The
- 1:14:24Speaker 6: most obvious thing, in my opinion, is the King of
- 1:14:26Speaker 6: the Ring, but it doesn't We haven't heard jack shit
- 1:14:30Speaker 6: about that, So I don't think they're even gonna do
- 1:14:33Speaker 6: a King and Queen of the Ring tournament this year.
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm having that.
- 1:14:38Speaker 6: Probably they probably end up doing the same lazy ship
- 1:14:41Speaker 6: they do all the time. We're gonna have a number
- 1:14:43Speaker 6: one contenders tournament for the world everywhere champion. The base
- 1:14:47Speaker 6: drummers playing over their couple of weeks. We're all because
- 1:14:51Speaker 6: when they can't figure out any what to do ship,
- 1:14:53Speaker 6: because when they can't figure out any other creative idea,
- 1:14:56Speaker 6: fucket slap a tournament on TV.
- 1:15:00Speaker 5: For a hot secondary. It kind of sounded like Wade Barrett.
- 1:15:03Speaker 5: I kind of heard a resemblance.
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: Well, I'm afraid I've got some bad news.
- 1:15:08Speaker 5: Saint less like Wade bearrit Now Drey was on point
- 1:15:12Speaker 5: where it you just sucked it up right, all right, Let's.
- 1:15:16Speaker 4: Play King and Queen of the Ring. On Raw and SmackDown. Yeah,
- 1:15:21Speaker 4: if they could do it over the few weeks on
- 1:15:25Speaker 4: Raw and SmackDown.
- 1:15:27Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
- 1:15:28Speaker 6: I still wish they would do it as a one
- 1:15:29Speaker 6: night thing like it used to be. It meant more
- 1:15:33Speaker 6: to me when somebody went through a gauntlet of one night,
- 1:15:36Speaker 6: one match after the other, rather than know, you got
- 1:15:40Speaker 6: this match this time, then you have another match another week,
- 1:15:43Speaker 6: and then another match on other week.
- 1:15:44Speaker 4: Like that's just my two cents.
- 1:15:49Speaker 6: Like, give us a You got Netflix, so you got
- 1:15:52Speaker 6: flexibility with time. Give us a good three hour raw
- 1:16:00Speaker 6: where you do King and Queen of the Ring, just
- 1:16:03Speaker 6: matches for the night.
- 1:16:05Speaker 5: Mm hmmm, A couple of filler matches here and there.
- 1:16:08Speaker 6: Fuck no, no, just just kicking the bullshit. No, the
- 1:16:12Speaker 6: whole the whole show is dedicated to King and Queen
- 1:16:15Speaker 6: of the Ring.
- 1:16:16Speaker 4: Period. No, none of that filler bullshit.
- 1:16:20Speaker 6: Don't throw nobody out there who ain't participating in the tournament.
- 1:16:25Speaker 4: Make that raw feel special, make it that meaning.
- 1:16:30Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, make it half fucking meaning. All right, Uh,
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: let's play guess that wrestler. I'm gonna give you a
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: list of titles that this wrestler has held, and you
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: were gonna guess who it is. We will start off
- 1:16:53Speaker 1: that this wrestler has won money in the bank twice,
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: two times. I don't that could have what Stone cold
- 1:17:02Speaker 1: Stone call isn't even wrestling one the money in the
- 1:17:04Speaker 1: bank pace this guy seth Rollins, Dude, Dre, I fucking
- 1:17:11Speaker 1: hate you. I fucking hate you, bro.
- 1:17:18Speaker 6: Yeah, it's only like two or three people, like two
- 1:17:21Speaker 6: people who have won that briefcase twice.
- 1:17:23Speaker 4: I think Edge and seth Rawlins are like the only two.
- 1:17:25Speaker 1: Nope, nope, no, no, no, no money. And I'm pretty
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: sure uh it's I see you put seam Punk in
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: there and the miss.
- 1:17:53Speaker 5: Well there's missus. One run really count considering that he
- 1:17:56Speaker 5: wanted from otis it.
- 1:17:58Speaker 1: Is what it is, man Ed Sampunk, the Miziness seth
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: Rollins only the only four wrestlers to the hold it twice.
- 1:18:07Speaker 5: Wasn't He also then swindled out of that that briefcase himself. Yeah,
- 1:18:12Speaker 5: very very forcefully, I think so, I think so.
- 1:18:21Speaker 1: Yeah, this definitely Yeah. As for as p L, this
- 1:18:25Speaker 1: definitely was not the worst backlash. I can't think of
- 1:18:28Speaker 1: any off the top of my head, but definitely not
- 1:18:31Speaker 1: the worst backlash.
- 1:18:33Speaker 2: It was.
- 1:18:33Speaker 5: It felt more like a may a menh yeah, like
- 1:18:36Speaker 5: across the board just man a meh okay, Like it
- 1:18:42Speaker 5: wasn't like like it said, It wasn't the worst, It
- 1:18:45Speaker 5: wasn't the best, you know, but what the stuff that
- 1:18:50Speaker 5: happened happened, Events took place, People were either upset or happy,
- 1:18:54Speaker 5: so on and so forth.
- 1:18:58Speaker 6: Alight, I get people being hyper like about shit like
- 1:19:01Speaker 6: they always do. You could argue last year's backlash was
- 1:19:05Speaker 6: worse than this one.
- 1:19:07Speaker 1: Ooh, last year's backlash. That uh, that twenty twenty five
- 1:19:13Speaker 1: backlash backlash, which, by the way, if you go back
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: in our episodes list, we did cover that one. That one, oh, actually,
- 1:19:23Speaker 1: that one's not too bad. That one is in Saint Louis, Missouri.
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: That was with John Cena and Randy Orton. Main eventings
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: for the ww title, we had Jacob Fattu defeated La Knight,
- 1:19:35Speaker 1: Damian Priest, Andrew McIntyre for the fatal four way match
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: for the n C title. Lyra Valkyrie defeated Becky Lynch
- 1:19:44Speaker 1: for the Women's Intercontinental title. Dominican Masterio defeated Penta for
- 1:19:48Speaker 1: the IC title, which is funny because now where Penta
- 1:19:51Speaker 1: is now Guntar defeated Pat McAfee in a submission match.
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: I remember that that's when he choked them out right,
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: and we didn't see him until recent Yeah. Then, yes,
- 1:20:01Speaker 1: the main event was John State versus Orton.
- 1:20:03Speaker 4: So uh.
- 1:20:06Speaker 1: Yeah, last year's wasn't bad either. I mean, I didn't
- 1:20:09Speaker 1: think last year's was bad, So I got another one,
- 1:20:17Speaker 1: another guest. This wrestler. This wrestler has won money in
- 1:20:21Speaker 1: the bank. This wrestler has also won the Royal Rumble twice.
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: This wrestler has also won King of the Ring. This
- 1:20:32Speaker 1: wrestler has held the Universal Title three times. This wrestler
- 1:20:39Speaker 1: has held the WWE Championship four times and the ww
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: Undisputed Title three times. Uh. This wrestler is also an
- 1:20:56Speaker 1: o VW Southern Tag Team Champion. Hey I w GP
- 1:21:02Speaker 1: Heavyweight Champion and IGF iw GP Heavyweight Champion. Nope, nope.
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: But if I give you he's won one more title.
- 1:21:15Speaker 1: But if I told you the title, it would probably
- 1:21:18Speaker 1: be a dead giveaway because it's not a WWE title. Actually,
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: it's not even a wrestling title. UFC World Heavyweight Champion. Oh,
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: brock listener, brock Listener, there you go. I knew that
- 1:21:40Speaker 1: title itself would have been a giveaway. So no Doyle
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: again in this episode. Doyle has been working.
- 1:21:50Speaker 5: So Doyle, we miss you.
- 1:21:54Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I guess we missed Doyle. I guess we
- 1:21:56Speaker 1: miss him. I think he's probably out really doing another podcast,
- 1:22:01Speaker 1: But yes, we do miss Doyle. He will be back
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: hopefully next episode. I did bring it up that Tyler
- 1:22:09Speaker 1: and me we'll be doing SmackDown and Raw reviews coming
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: up once SmackDown hits that two hour mark, because I
- 1:22:17Speaker 1: refuse to do it with three hours on a Friday.
- 1:22:22Speaker 1: Our website is going to be closing down because we're
- 1:22:25Speaker 1: actually we get more traffic on the social media where
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- 1:22:30Speaker 1: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. At a podcast Championship Wrestling.
- 1:22:37Speaker 1: I was at Allays the other day, Dre and.
- 1:22:40Speaker 4: I was.
- 1:22:41Speaker 1: It was during right before Backlash. I was at the
- 1:22:44Speaker 1: register and I said to my girlfriend. I was like, hey,
- 1:22:48Speaker 1: we got to get back for Backlash. It starts in
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: a couple of minutes and the guy goes at the register, Oh,
- 1:22:53Speaker 1: you like wrestling, Like, yeah, I do. And I asked
- 1:22:57Speaker 1: him whose day of wrestler was and he said, jay Uso.
- 1:23:01Speaker 1: He says. He's like, I'm not a fan of that
- 1:23:03Speaker 1: seem punk guy, that old guy, but I like Jay
- 1:23:07Speaker 1: Usso and I could remediately gauge his age. You know,
- 1:23:11Speaker 1: he's a lot younger than me. Uh but I was like, hey, man,
- 1:23:15Speaker 1: if you ever want to talk wrestling and let me know.
- 1:23:17Speaker 1: He goes, oh yeah, dude, definitely. You know, teld him
- 1:23:21Speaker 1: about our podcast. You know where you can find us.
- 1:23:24Speaker 1: You can find us on all the social media's so,
- 1:23:28Speaker 1: and I always got people, Yeah, I got people. We're
- 1:23:31Speaker 1: coming up to me. I was talking about wrestling, you know,
- 1:23:34Speaker 1: so I'm always right away. It's like, oh you like wrestling,
- 1:23:37Speaker 1: let me direct you over this little wrestling podcast we got,
- 1:23:42Speaker 1: you know, free.
- 1:23:46Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:23:46Speaker 1: Yeah, a nice segue. So but yeah, we we decided
- 1:23:50Speaker 1: to because we had to pay a fee every year
- 1:23:52Speaker 1: to keep the website up, and it's a pretty high fee, right,
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: and we're just wighing out, like, you know, we're now
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: invested in Microsoft team teams to hopefully make this a
- 1:24:02Speaker 1: little bit more clearer and crisp and easier for you know,
- 1:24:06Speaker 1: people who are getting interviewed or on the show to join.
- 1:24:10Speaker 1: So the money to digest, yeah, yeah, the the PCW
- 1:24:15Speaker 1: money budget is going elsewhere right now, and just because
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: you know, the website, we just don't get enough traffic.
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: But you can, you know, you can find us anywhere
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: if you're if if you were one of the few
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: people who actually downloaded directly off the website, you can
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- 1:24:35Speaker 1: YouTube channel actually seems to be pretty popular. A lot
- 1:24:37Speaker 1: of people go there, which is funny because we're an
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: audio only So my guess is people just put it
- 1:24:42Speaker 1: on in the background, you know, so they don't it's
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: their white noise. It's their white noise. I'm sure, I'm
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: sure it is. Uh, but you know that's cool. Uh.
- 1:24:55Speaker 1: You know what I I totally get if you know,
- 1:24:58Speaker 1: we get more people downloading and coming to the SmackDown
- 1:25:01Speaker 1: Raw review, because why suffer through like six hours of
- 1:25:06Speaker 1: wrestling when me and Tyler can do it and cut
- 1:25:09Speaker 1: it down for you, give you the give you the wrap,
- 1:25:12Speaker 1: you know.
- 1:25:12Speaker 5: Week tweak, m h everything easily.
- 1:25:16Speaker 1: We're all suffering tons and tons of wrestling. It just
- 1:25:21Speaker 1: it's never ending. And like I if I miss an
- 1:25:25Speaker 1: episode of We're All SmackDown, I have a fear of
- 1:25:28Speaker 1: fomo and it's like, oh my god, it's like I
- 1:25:30Speaker 1: have to see what happens. I need to know. We're
- 1:25:33Speaker 1: all completely lost, you know, so, uh, Drey, you want
- 1:25:40Speaker 1: to you want to plug anything before we head out
- 1:25:42Speaker 1: of here.
- 1:25:44Speaker 6: Instagram dot Com, slash Peace Podcast, Championship Wrestling as always.
- 1:25:51Speaker 1: All right, awesome, h Tyler, thanks for coming again.
- 1:25:55Speaker 5: Thank you for having me always. It's it's an awesome
- 1:25:58Speaker 5: time every time. I don't think there's been one bad
- 1:26:00Speaker 5: experience yet.
- 1:26:01Speaker 1: So we'll get there. But you got anything you wanna plug?
- 1:26:06Speaker 4: Tyler, M.
- 1:26:10Speaker 1: All right, that's it. Thanks, That was it. Go ahead,
- 1:26:16Speaker 1: that's it, that's it, that's it, all right, you know what. Okay,
- 1:26:20Speaker 1: all right, let's get the hell out of here, guys
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