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Breaking News: Chase Massner Found? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: This is Alan Duke for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: We have breaking news about the search for Chase Masner,
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Speaker 1: the Iraqi war vette who vanished more than three years ago.
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Speaker 1: Cold case investigators in Cobb County, Georgia tell us they
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Speaker 1: believed they found Chase Masner sadly dead, buried behind the Kennesaw,
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Speaker 1: Georgia home where he had gone after an argument with
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Speaker 1: his wife in March. Human remains believed to be Masner
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Speaker 1: have been taken from the home to the Medical Examiner's
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Speaker 1: office for examination. Nancy Grace is focused intensely on this case.
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Speaker 1: We've dedicated a dozen Crime Stories episodes to finding Chase Masner,
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Speaker 1: including interviews with his mother, Stephanie, his wife Amanda, and
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Speaker 1: the person known to have last seen him, Brad Clemmens.
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Speaker 1: You can hear those episodes in our Crime Stories feed
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Speaker 1: over the past six months. We will post a full
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Speaker 1: report on the newest developments on our Wednesday podcast and
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Speaker 1: on Nancy's radio show, which will be devoted to the case.
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Speaker 1: So listen on Sirius XM's channel two beginning tomorrow, that's
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Speaker 1: Wednesday at noon Eastern. In the special report, we take
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Speaker 1: you back to a morning last March, when Nancy Grace,
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Speaker 1: armed only with her iPhone, knocked on an Atlanta, Georgia
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Speaker 1: motel room door where Brad Clemens was then living. Although
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Speaker 1: startled to see Grace at his door at eight am,
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Speaker 1: Brad let her inside and for ninety minutes, she sat
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Speaker 1: on his bed grilled Brad about what he knew. Now,
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Speaker 1: Cold case detectives tell us it was this interview that
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Speaker 1: gave them valuable clues leading back to the house where
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Speaker 1: Brad once lived. Tracking dogs told them to dig with
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Speaker 1: this knowledge. It's enlightening to again listen to what Brad
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Speaker 1: Clemens told Nancy Grace that morning. Do you think he's dead?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I hope that he's not,
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Speaker 1: But really I don't know. Like I I've you know,
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Speaker 1: I've wondered about it. And you know, the last time
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Speaker 1: that I was with him, like I hardly knew them, really,
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Speaker 1: like I met him maybe three or four times. I thought,
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Speaker 1: you sent over to their house. No, I've been over
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Speaker 1: to their house, like after all this happened, Like I
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Speaker 1: went over there to put together a ping pong table
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Speaker 1: or a pool table or something. No. Never, that was
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Speaker 1: the only time I've gone over to their house is
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Speaker 1: when um, what's her name, Amanda? Amanda called and asked
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Speaker 1: me to come over there and like talked to her,
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Speaker 1: and I went over there with my dog like you know,
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Speaker 1: talk to her about all this, and like it was
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Speaker 1: kind of, um, kind of odd me being over there,
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Speaker 1: and because you only need her three chimes, right, and
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Speaker 1: I never really you know, talked to just her, and
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Speaker 1: it was, you know, I kept hearing all these you know,
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Speaker 1: mixed things. You know, well, this is later, I guess,
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Speaker 1: like about her and like his friends and stuff when
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Speaker 1: he made her and his friends. I don't throw her
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Speaker 1: under the bus or anything, but I mean it's just,
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't are you saying that she's up around?
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Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of the world. That's kind of
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Speaker 1: what I thought when I was when I went over
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Speaker 1: there to see her like that, she you know, wanted
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Speaker 1: like I don't know, it's just oh yeah, I mean
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Speaker 1: like she was like, well, she she called me up
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Speaker 1: and was like, hey, can you bring me some pop
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Speaker 1: to like smoke some pot? You want to smoke some
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Speaker 1: pop me? And I was like, at this point in
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Speaker 1: my life, I wasn't smoking, and I was like, I
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Speaker 1: think I have like a grinder that you could scrape,
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Speaker 1: and she was like, yeah, bring it over here, and
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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, should take it out of the
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Speaker 1: grind and there was like, you know, the resin stuff
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Speaker 1: that you could like scrape and because apparently they smoked
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Speaker 1: like a lot, because you know, the whole thing where
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Speaker 1: her um she called up what's like her mother or
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Speaker 1: someone to help him clean up something in the house,
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Speaker 1: like they were growing popline. You know, they had a
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Speaker 1: bunch of poplins they were growing in the house. And
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Speaker 1: that's why she was like, Hey, I needed to come
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Speaker 1: over here and how I clean this up because they
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Speaker 1: were cleaning out all the poplins where the cops came
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Speaker 1: over there. So that was like a big thing with that.
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Speaker 1: But um, that could be part of the reason she
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Speaker 1: doesn't want to talk anymore because she doesn't want to
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Speaker 1: be dragged in some way. Yeah, they were. She was
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Speaker 1: really like, you know, you know, just I guess worried
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Speaker 1: about that. And I was like, it's not even not
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Speaker 1: big of a deal. It's like people grow pop plans
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Speaker 1: all the time in the backyard, you know, especially here
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Speaker 1: in the South. But yes, I don't know about that,
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Speaker 1: but okay, I'll just take your word for it. A
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Speaker 1: note here, Chase's wife, Amanda Masner talked extensively to Nancy
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Speaker 1: Grace about Brad's tendency to point the finger of suspicion
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Speaker 1: towards her. You can hear her response and Finding Chase
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Speaker 1: episodes seven and eight, which we posted in late June
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Speaker 1: and early July. I mean, see, I the thing is
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Speaker 1: like I hardly knew them, like they were good friends.
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Speaker 1: So some of my good friends with my friend Alan
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Speaker 1: who lived in the house with me, and and like
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Speaker 1: I had to get I had to make him leave
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Speaker 1: because he wouldn't paid me rent, and um, you know,
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Speaker 1: he I also caught him like cross dressing and he
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Speaker 1: thought I was gonna tell all, you know, all our
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Speaker 1: friends that he was like dressing up like a girl
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Speaker 1: and stuff. And so he told, um, Amanda in them
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Speaker 1: that I like shot shot Heroin into Chase and killed
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Speaker 1: him and put this all in their head just just
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Speaker 1: to get me in trouble. Why would you use up
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Speaker 1: here went on somebody else? Its fact, somebody that I
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Speaker 1: don't even know, you know, I mean, why would you
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Speaker 1: do something where there's that That's another thing. It's like,
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Speaker 1: I just don't know. Why would you take somebody that
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Speaker 1: you hardly know and then get them high with heroin
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Speaker 1: where you know people overt us all the time, and
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Speaker 1: it's like, what what do you think Chase was on.
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Speaker 1: I don't really think it was so much other than
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Speaker 1: potting alcohol that night. I mean, that's good. I'm glad
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Speaker 1: to hear that. Yeah, I mean, you know, he was
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Speaker 1: trying to get more, like and I gave him some cash,
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Speaker 1: like he was trying for thirty mill Graham roxy pills.
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Speaker 1: The that was what everybody was taking. Alan was giving
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Speaker 1: him those sometimes because Alan would take those. And so
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Speaker 1: he assumed that I could get him because Alan could
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Speaker 1: get him. And you know, I I brought him and
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Speaker 1: you know, I was in a motorcycle wreck and I
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Speaker 1: was on those at one point, and you know, so
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Speaker 1: I took him to like that's one of the mannors
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Speaker 1: that picked him up, just to kind of talk to
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Speaker 1: him that night and be like, you know, dude, you
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Speaker 1: don't want that ship Like I was in a motorcycle wreck. Man,
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Speaker 1: coming off of those pills is terrible, you know, I mean,
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Speaker 1: And I figured I could just you know, hang out
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Speaker 1: with him, and you know, if you didn't really know
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Speaker 1: him that well why did you let him come to
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Speaker 1: your place? I mean because he's been over there before,
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Speaker 1: Like I mean, he worked at a Quick Trip right
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Speaker 1: down the street from my house. So so what do
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Speaker 1: you think. Just take me through what happened that when
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Speaker 1: he goes missing. I mean, it's really not that much.
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Speaker 1: Like it's like everybody says, I like change my story
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Speaker 1: and all this stuff, But it's like that was like
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Speaker 1: what I did a day, you know, I mean, that
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Speaker 1: wasn't really anything to do with Chase. It was like,
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Speaker 1: you know, I ran a bunch of errings what I
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Speaker 1: was doing, you know, most time when I was fixing
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Speaker 1: up my house, like he was there that night and
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Speaker 1: then you know, basically left sometime between when I was
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Speaker 1: coming back from the store to when I started cooking.
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Speaker 1: Like I mean, he had to act like I mean
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Speaker 1: that that's the only logical thing. So you go on.
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Speaker 1: I think it was March the ish to pick him
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Speaker 1: up at Quick Trip, and it was at night around Okay,
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Speaker 1: all right, you pick him up and bring him to
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Speaker 1: your place directly, or you'll drive around. You know, it
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Speaker 1: was good. I mean it was right down the street, okay,
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Speaker 1: so you didn't drive around to hit to score and
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Speaker 1: nothing like that. You guys try so you go home.
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Speaker 1: What does he do? I mean, we just sit there
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Speaker 1: and start talking. We're actually I had a bunch of
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Speaker 1: stuff that I was building a computer with, so I
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Speaker 1: had him help me carry a bunch of stuff in
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Speaker 1: and then I started building the computer that I was
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Speaker 1: actually not this one but a different one, and I had,
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Speaker 1: you know, we just sit there and kind of just
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Speaker 1: talk because we had talked, you know, two or three
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Speaker 1: nights ago about the same thing too. What about him
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Speaker 1: and Amanda fighting and all this stuff that they fight about.
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Speaker 1: I mean it was like money and stuff like that
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Speaker 1: because she wasn't working, and uh, you know, he didn't
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Speaker 1: really talk too much about it, but I just told him,
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Speaker 1: you know that you know, he was a lucky guy,
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Speaker 1: and you know, it's got two beautiful kids, a beautiful wife,
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Speaker 1: Like I don't know, you know, it's okay. What most
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Speaker 1: people want, you know, in life, is to be you know,
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Speaker 1: fulfilled with those two things. And you know how much
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Speaker 1: you know, was he not happy with that? Was that
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Speaker 1: money problems? Dope? What was it? I think it was
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Speaker 1: more or less money problems? I mean, because you know,
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Speaker 1: like I said, I just I really didn't know him
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Speaker 1: that that well, like and I mean it was, this
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Speaker 1: was so longer than we actually talked about this, like
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Speaker 1: you know, and it was mainly me talking, you know,
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Speaker 1: other than him. You know, he's staying there listening, and
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Speaker 1: you know he said that he was like telling him
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Speaker 1: many he was going to run off and like sleep
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Speaker 1: in the woods and all this stuff. But yeah, you
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Speaker 1: didn't hear that. No, Yeah, that's that's been another big thing,
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Speaker 1: like go off and sleep in the woods. And why
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Speaker 1: I wonder if he tried to do that and died.
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Speaker 1: I mean I figured I would to find found him then,
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Speaker 1: like what just let me just go off and sleep
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Speaker 1: in the woods, Okay, go ahead. And the story has
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Speaker 1: been that he would do that when they were fighting.
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Speaker 1: He would say, I just want to commit to a side,
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Speaker 1: and so they were fighting during it time, so reportedly
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Speaker 1: he made one of those threats and he was saying, Hey,
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Speaker 1: I just want to like go off in the woods
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Speaker 1: and get lost. Did you hear him say that? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he said it, you know a couple of times. And
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Speaker 1: I was like, I was, and you know, because he
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Speaker 1: wants to get sleep in the woods, yeah exactly, And
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Speaker 1: I mean he has you know, and it's like so
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Speaker 1: and not y'all stay late talking about Amanda and you're
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Speaker 1: working on the computer. Okay, then what happens? I mean,
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Speaker 1: he pretty much just you know, I think he'd been
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Speaker 1: up for a couple of days, like tired, Like I mean,
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Speaker 1: you could tell he was barely hanging on, and I
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Speaker 1: just passed out on my bed and like I just
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Speaker 1: continued to kind of you know, work on stuff, and
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Speaker 1: you know, it was gosh, I think you know, the
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Speaker 1: roofers got there like six am or something. They always
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Speaker 1: do that and started really early, and you know, so
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Speaker 1: I was just you know, continuing to get all with
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Speaker 1: stuff for my my day, and you know, I thought
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Speaker 1: would be a good idea that, uh I have, you know,
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Speaker 1: a man come over and just kind of have like
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Speaker 1: a cookout thing, because you know, I knew Brandon and
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Speaker 1: the him and the roofers and like I like to
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Speaker 1: cook and stuff, and I know it's kind of odd
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Speaker 1: to have a cookout, but like it was, you know,
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Speaker 1: it was, yeah, it was something you know, let me
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Speaker 1: ask you. I felt like, get a man to tell you.
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Speaker 1: Earlier that day she had to be at some kind
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Speaker 1: of an appointment for her children. No because that's what
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Speaker 1: they're saying now, there was an appointment that they told you.
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Speaker 1: She told you earlier that day that she had to
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Speaker 1: be at some appointment, either with or for her children
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Speaker 1: and could not come over. M No, I mean that's
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Speaker 1: she just said that she couldn't come over, and after
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Speaker 1: a while I guess, um, but you know, I don't
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Speaker 1: ever remember are telling me that that day? Like okay,
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Speaker 1: So anyway, she didn't come over. Did you try to
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Speaker 1: get him to call him and and advise her over
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Speaker 1: to kind of like make the pace? Did he do it? No,
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Speaker 1: not that I know of. And I mean that's why
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Speaker 1: I tried to talk to her on his phone because
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Speaker 1: I didn't have her number, And that's why I had
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Speaker 1: his phone in the first place, was to call her
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Speaker 1: and ask her. Mainly he needed to be at work
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Speaker 1: that day because I didn't know, and he, you know,
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Speaker 1: had to be work at nights most of the time.
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Speaker 1: So and then what happened? And then I kind of
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Speaker 1: went on my day, like I mean, I just went
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Speaker 1: and did you know stuff I normally do. I went
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Speaker 1: to lowse Um. I had to drop a laptop off
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Speaker 1: that i'd fix for somebody. What did you need it lose.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I was fixing my house up, so I
12:21
Speaker 1: can't tell you exactly what it was. I mean, just
12:23
Speaker 1: so you gotta lose. You got the grocery store first.
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Speaker 1: I went to go to off this laptop off that
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Speaker 1: was down um off of Um gosh. It's my friend
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Speaker 1: Rickey's house, which was like downtown pretty much. He's ever
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Speaker 1: you're doing about your day, you're doing your thing, and um,
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Speaker 1: you typed the computer to Ricky he lives. He lives
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Speaker 1: um pretty much downtown, I mean downtown Atlanta. And you
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Speaker 1: were all the way up to here and kind saw
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Speaker 1: and I told him to come with me. That's forty
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Speaker 1: minutes forty minutes at least. It's probably more like three
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Speaker 1: hours or something like that. Yeah, by the time you
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Speaker 1: get get there forty minutes in their thirty minutes back
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Speaker 1: forty minutes at best. Okay, so you leave him where
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Speaker 1: she was upstairs just I mean the next point. I mean, yeah,
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Speaker 1: he was just asleep because you know, this is probably
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Speaker 1: like eight o'clock, you know, m Yeah, alright, so for
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Speaker 1: like five hours, probably not even maybe four, I'd say
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Speaker 1: four or five. I want I always say nothing good
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Speaker 1: happens after midnight. I mean you always get an arguments
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Speaker 1: and everything goes sideways at minight. Y okay, So yeah,
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Speaker 1: because I don't want to get any I don't want
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Speaker 1: to lose anything because I'm piecing it all together and
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Speaker 1: make a timeline. Alright, so you go at eight, nine,
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Speaker 1: ten thirty, you get back. What's he doing? Sleeping? Same
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Speaker 1: exact thing, door open, closed doors open at this point
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Speaker 1: because he's still in my room. Yeah, and this is
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Speaker 1: when I got him up. Um, And I mean I
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Speaker 1: basically woke m up and was like, yo, come with me,
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Speaker 1: come on, I'm gonna have a cookout, you know, call Amanda.
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Speaker 1: And I dropped all the day plans on it because
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Speaker 1: I was like, man, I figured he'd be up by now,
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Speaker 1: you know, ready to go and rolling, And got him
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Speaker 1: up and then I you know, I got to put
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Speaker 1: him in the other bedroom because I was gonna work
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Speaker 1: on some stuff in my room at this point, and
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Speaker 1: because I had like a four bedroom house, so yeah,
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Speaker 1: kind of saw and it was, you know, I was like,
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Speaker 1: you know, there's no point let him sleep in my room.
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Speaker 1: Continue when I got crap I gotta do, and um,
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Speaker 1: you know, I was kind of like, you know, irritated
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Speaker 1: at this point because I was like, you know, wanted
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Speaker 1: to be up so we can get stuff kind of rolling,
14:37
Speaker 1: but you know, he was you know also you know
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Speaker 1: had I could tell he hadn't been sleeping for a
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Speaker 1: couple of days, and you know, I had been fighting
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Speaker 1: or whatnot. So he went in the other band door open, shut,
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Speaker 1: door opened. So later that day, you gave the roofers
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Speaker 1: a tour of your home. Let's see there, see I
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Speaker 1: didn't really give a tour of my home because they've
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Speaker 1: been there before. They hold made that you gave him
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Speaker 1: a tour of your home that they showed. You showed
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Speaker 1: around your house. I mean I guess, but like that
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Speaker 1: would probably at like four o'clock or something, four or
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Speaker 1: five o'clock. I mean, I didn't really think that was
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Speaker 1: a day. Yeah, but so you come back, you get
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Speaker 1: back to thirty eleven ish, you move them from your
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Speaker 1: bedroom to the other bedroom. He crashes door open, and
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Speaker 1: you do what I start going and getting, you know,
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Speaker 1: I have to, that's at that point i'd go a
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Speaker 1: week day or week it's a weekday. Yeah. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: Amanda wasn't working so she could come out probably, I
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Speaker 1: mean that's what I thought, you know, I didn't think
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Speaker 1: she would do anything take care of the kids, like
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Speaker 1: and uh I kind of wanted to, you know, squash
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Speaker 1: this you know, fighting thing if it was, but it was.
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Speaker 1: Let's see, remember I give Chase sixty bucks too. I
15:47
Speaker 1: told I gave him sixty bucks a night before. He
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Speaker 1: asked me for a month and uh, I told him,
15:52
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, and I'll give you this. But sixty
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Speaker 1: bucks he had in his pocket the whole time. I'm
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Speaker 1: pretty sure. I mean, I don't think you left came
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Speaker 1: back where I was, you know, gone that I know of.
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Speaker 1: You know, so you get back trying to wake him up,
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Speaker 1: Hey guys in the other round. Then you start doing
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Speaker 1: what after that? That's at that point I go to
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Speaker 1: publics and lows and that's when um um, I went
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Speaker 1: and grabbed I forget what it was, I need to
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Speaker 1: grab it, uh lows, but um, I grab the list
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Speaker 1: up to cook with a Publix And that's when I
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Speaker 1: came back. Basically started with the grill. And it's probably
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Speaker 1: you know, one two o'clock at this point. And you know,
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Speaker 1: after I started to grill, I like set the backyard,
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Speaker 1: like I had a bunch of coals that pretty much
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Speaker 1: one some blew out to the yard and like I mean,
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Speaker 1: rufus lely had to get off the house because it
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Speaker 1: was like so smoky from a fire that they started
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Speaker 1: them back. Yeah, and because there's nobody behind me and
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Speaker 1: canne saw it was like all woods back there. And uh,
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Speaker 1: basically after that, that's when I went and tried to
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Speaker 1: you know, get chased up, like, man, did you see
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Speaker 1: the fire in the backyard because the bedroom he was
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Speaker 1: in was directly by the back you mean, you could
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Speaker 1: see that fire, like you know, playing his day, you know,
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Speaker 1: And that's when I realized he wasn't there anymore. And
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Speaker 1: what time was that? I want to say it was
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Speaker 1: like two or three o'clock when you came back from publix?
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Speaker 1: Was he there? I didn't check where the bedrooms upstairs?
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Speaker 1: So you lay for publics at what time? It's probably
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Speaker 1: twelves or something like that, and he was there. You
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Speaker 1: get back from publics, you don't go up there. The
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Speaker 1: pine straw catches on fire. And you go up there
17:38
Speaker 1: at what time about? I want to see you? It
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Speaker 1: was like between like one or two o'clock. It's been
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Speaker 1: like maybe one or one hour or anything like that,
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Speaker 1: not even not long like before the last time, maybe
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Speaker 1: maybe one third for you to lave him. Go to
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Speaker 1: Los go to publics, get back, start a fire, put
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Speaker 1: the fire out, and go up there. It's probably at
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Speaker 1: two o'clock. I mean it was gone, and he was gone,
18:02
Speaker 1: and like he had taken his bag and everything that
18:04
Speaker 1: he had, like he had a little bag and and
18:06
Speaker 1: then he had his He left his two little balls
18:08
Speaker 1: of beer in my in the closet. But other than that,
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Speaker 1: how big was the back It's like a backpack. Was
18:16
Speaker 1: it a backpack? Yeah, it was a backpack. See a
18:19
Speaker 1: glazed with his backpack in sixty bucks helped him take
18:23
Speaker 1: his bags to the room bill right, Yeah, it was
18:25
Speaker 1: that the backpacking like a you know, grocery bag of
18:29
Speaker 1: two bottles of beer or something like that. So did
18:33
Speaker 1: you see it kind of that he was laying. Yeah,
18:36
Speaker 1: he did that every time, like he would just disappear
18:38
Speaker 1: every time every time. Then I then he was over
18:40
Speaker 1: my house. He would always every time he was even
18:41
Speaker 1: he would just disappear a man up like so that
18:44
Speaker 1: was his m O. So I wasn't too world you've
18:47
Speaker 1: been over in disappear two or three? I mean each
18:50
Speaker 1: time you've been in my house, he always just left
18:52
Speaker 1: because I was always like trying to get to do
18:54
Speaker 1: something or like you know, something like a cook out
18:57
Speaker 1: or just I feel like something that he didn't want
19:00
Speaker 1: to do. You know, he was you know, all about
19:03
Speaker 1: like just kind of getting stoned at that point. And
19:06
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I wasn't really smoking, so
19:09
Speaker 1: it was I mean, it was not another topic a
19:16
Speaker 1: man to hit on you. I mean it was you know,
19:22
Speaker 1: like yeah, I would say yeah, like what like I mean,
19:30
Speaker 1: like she was mad at Chase and it was just
19:32
Speaker 1: like you know, um, basically I'm stoned now. Um. You know,
19:40
Speaker 1: anything goes like you know, you just have like that
19:43
Speaker 1: eye connection thing and it's just like you know, you
19:45
Speaker 1: could tell when he was another man thing where he thinks, oh,
19:49
Speaker 1: she's so into me, and she's like so not. No,
19:53
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that. So you really think she was
19:56
Speaker 1: hitting on me. I mean it's not like hitting on
19:59
Speaker 1: me like grab my asked or anything, but like I mean,
20:02
Speaker 1: she was like you know, feeling it out at least,
20:06
Speaker 1: like I mean, she called me and told me to
20:08
Speaker 1: come over there to bring her some pot for like
20:12
Speaker 1: you know, just some bizarre reason, like, you know, it
20:16
Speaker 1: was just kind of I think she's trying to get
20:18
Speaker 1: back at chrise. You know, I hope so like that
20:23
Speaker 1: was that was kind of what because otherwise that means
20:26
Speaker 1: it Yeah, okay, okay, back to the day, all right,
20:30
Speaker 1: So around you think two o'clock, you notice he's not
20:33
Speaker 1: gone and his backpack is gone. Now, earlier that day,
20:36
Speaker 1: you had taken his cell phone with you mine, because
20:42
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I just really had it with me.
20:44
Speaker 1: But I really wanted him to stay and you know,
20:46
Speaker 1: wait for him to manage to come over, because I
20:49
Speaker 1: knew he always left, like that was him up. You know,
20:52
Speaker 1: he always leaves, so if I had a cell phone,
20:53
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna leave right away. And but that was
20:55
Speaker 1: like early in the morning when I thought that a man.
20:57
Speaker 1: And then we come over and for I you know,
21:00
Speaker 1: moved from out of the bedroom, and uh, because I
21:03
Speaker 1: really wanted to talk to him again, you know, to
21:05
Speaker 1: make sure that you know, nothing crazy was going to happen.
21:08
Speaker 1: But you know, so would the roofers have been in
21:13
Speaker 1: a position to save life, they should have, Like that's
21:16
Speaker 1: what I thought, you know, that's why I assume they
21:18
Speaker 1: just saw them, don't leave because I mean, they were
21:21
Speaker 1: worked there. The house had a steep um see at
21:26
Speaker 1: this point when it was really smoky, they had to
21:28
Speaker 1: get down off the roof there because that's you know,
21:32
Speaker 1: and that's why I assumed, you know, that Chase had
21:35
Speaker 1: heard them running around or whatever. I don't even know
21:37
Speaker 1: how he was sleeping with all that noise. Like, I mean,
21:44
Speaker 1: I've been told that you had a big black bag
21:48
Speaker 1: of stuff you threw away in a dumpster. What was it?
21:52
Speaker 1: A big black bag, probably ceiling tiles, all kinds of crap.
21:57
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm completely redoing the house. I mean, the
22:01
Speaker 1: whole dumpster thing is kind of ridiculous to me because
22:03
Speaker 1: I had all my neighbors or stuff in it. Like,
22:07
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just like, do you think everybody's
22:12
Speaker 1: want the finger at you? Because I'm the person that
22:15
Speaker 1: nobody knows and I'm just like that odd piece. To
22:19
Speaker 1: see him and his disappearance doesn't make sense, but in
22:25
Speaker 1: a way it does. If he kept telling people who's
22:30
Speaker 1: gonna leave and get live in the woods? Are you
22:32
Speaker 1: sure about that? Yeah? That was I mean, that's that's
22:35
Speaker 1: well known to you. I'm pretty sure I mean that
22:38
Speaker 1: that he said that. I think his mom, who knows that, Like,
22:43
Speaker 1: how badly do you think he had Amanda were fighting?
22:47
Speaker 1: I mean bad enough to where they she would just
22:50
Speaker 1: throw him out of the car, like randomly because they
22:54
Speaker 1: want to fight in front of the kids and stuff,
22:56
Speaker 1: and um, you know that was Do you think he
23:01
Speaker 1: would actually leave his children? I didn't, you know, wouldn't
23:05
Speaker 1: have thought that. No, But I mean, and I could
23:09
Speaker 1: say somebody leaving their wife if they fought all the time.
23:11
Speaker 1: But the children, that's the thing. That's a where I
23:15
Speaker 1: don't buy him going into the woods because I don't
23:18
Speaker 1: think he would have left those children. I mean, I
23:20
Speaker 1: don't think that he would have left for a significant
23:22
Speaker 1: period of time, but I definitely a short period of time.
23:25
Speaker 1: And just to kind of that was a relationship between
23:27
Speaker 1: him and his mother, I don't know because she says
23:30
Speaker 1: he always called her back, he always texted her back,
23:33
Speaker 1: and that says she knew something was wrong. I didn't
23:36
Speaker 1: really know his mom, Like I never met his mom,
23:38
Speaker 1: and like he said, I only met him a handful
23:41
Speaker 1: of time tally. Okay, when you take a polygraph with me?
23:43
Speaker 1: Do you want me to take a polygraph? Yes? Not
23:46
Speaker 1: sitting right here, I'll set one up and just put
23:49
Speaker 1: the whole of undrest. I mean, I can if that's
23:52
Speaker 1: what it takes, but it's just it's not a big deal.
23:58
Speaker 1: They're not hard at all. I mean because now and
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Speaker 1: I really live kind of Beth. Despite that promise and
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Speaker 1: our efforts to hold into it, Brad Clements never took
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