Latest / Scam Goddess / The Scammer of All Trades with Lamorne Morris (Fraud Friday)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Scam Come Rabby and from Scam come.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Robby and Froe Scam Goddess, what's pop and Congregation, We're
- 0:20Speaker 2: back for another installment of Scam Goddess. It's me your host,
- 0:23Speaker 2: Lacy Mostly aka Scam Goddess, and I say it with me. Guys,
- 0:29Speaker 2: I am so excited for today's guest, but I really am. Uh.
- 0:33Speaker 2: He is quite the magical negro. You can listen to
- 0:40Speaker 2: his comedy album that's out right now called The Low
- 0:42Speaker 2: Morning After Pill. You know him and love him from
- 0:45Speaker 2: the New Girl and many many projects. Guys, we have
- 0:48Speaker 2: lemar and Morris.
- 0:50Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey, what's up?
- 0:54Speaker 2: Dance there? When I called you a magical negro?
- 0:57Speaker 3: I did because magical negros need to dance, people. That's
- 1:02Speaker 3: the thing about magical negroes. We we oftentimes dance like
- 1:07Speaker 3: most negroes. Is that a stereotype or is.
- 1:10Speaker 2: That just that I'm trying to reclaim it? Because magical
- 1:14Speaker 2: negro is just like the negro in every White people
- 1:16Speaker 2: movie that's like go get your man, or like drives
- 1:20Speaker 2: you to the airport.
- 1:22Speaker 3: Drive.
- 1:23Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to be shady.
- 1:26Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. I'm a magical negro who
- 1:29Speaker 3: would just pay for a n Uber. I will get
- 1:30Speaker 3: you an Uber as a friend, you know what I mean? Like,
- 1:34Speaker 3: that's me doing my part.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Is it bad that I beget my mama ubers from
- 1:37Speaker 2: the airport? I get her Uber black like the suv,
- 1:40Speaker 2: but I don't go pick her up.
- 1:43Speaker 3: Not at all, Not at all. That's because it's luxury.
- 1:45Speaker 3: Do you drive a suburban?
- 1:49Speaker 2: Exactly? Do I drive an suv?
- 1:52Speaker 3: You?
- 1:52Speaker 2: You just asked you don't know what car I drive?
- 1:55Speaker 3: You just the asshole because you have a luxurious car.
- 2:01Speaker 3: Now the car I have. Now, I definitely picked my
- 2:03Speaker 3: mom up for the airport.
- 2:06Speaker 2: Oh, so you weren't doing it because you didn't like
- 2:07Speaker 2: your car. I'm not doing it because I'm not getting
- 2:10Speaker 2: I'm not going to l a X. Are you kidding me?
- 2:12Speaker 3: Come on now, listen. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity.
- 2:16Speaker 3: You get to sit in traffic for your mom back here,
- 2:20Speaker 3: up and down the four oh five. She can nag
- 2:24Speaker 3: you when she gets to your house.
- 2:25Speaker 2: Now I'm playing exactly, and go through my ship and
- 2:28Speaker 2: go through my sh She doesn't even stay at my house.
- 2:30Speaker 2: She always stays at a hotel because she's bougie. But
- 2:33Speaker 2: she wants to come to my house and go through
- 2:34Speaker 2: my ship and then go to a hotel.
- 2:37Speaker 3: That's the sole reason. Yes, you know what'd be funny
- 2:40Speaker 3: like if you just like as any any guy that
- 2:43Speaker 3: you're dating, will just really like buddy buddy up to
- 2:46Speaker 3: your mom and then go listen, go through her phone
- 2:50Speaker 3: for me. You used to going through her ship, like
- 2:52Speaker 3: who was she texting last night?
- 2:55Speaker 2: You want to go through what?
- 2:57Speaker 3: I just because I'm a detective. Oh, by any means.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Necessary, Well, then you're perfect for this show. You're absolutely perfect. No,
- 3:06Speaker 2: my mom knows I can't drive. This podcast knows I
- 3:08Speaker 2: can't drive. I didn't have to test for a driver's license,
- 3:11Speaker 2: and everyone is very well aware of that. Like I
- 3:14Speaker 2: scammed my way. I never took a driver's test at
- 3:18Speaker 2: the DMV. I went to driving Daryl's house. Listen, Daryl
- 3:25Speaker 2: pulled up with the license though it's wipes.
- 3:30Speaker 3: Man.
- 3:31Speaker 2: I went to driving school and then they were like,
- 3:33Speaker 2: and I remember driving school. My instructor was like, okay, girl,
- 3:35Speaker 2: you need to practice more. But my parents are very
- 3:37Speaker 2: self involved, so they weren't letting me drive their cars.
- 3:39Speaker 2: And they drive luxury cars too, so they're like, you're
- 3:41Speaker 2: not practicing at our Mercedes. I once ran over a
- 3:43Speaker 2: fence with it, so I understand, but.
- 3:46Speaker 3: Gosh, talk about privilege. It's black privilege is crazy.
- 3:52Speaker 2: It is crazy black privilege because I ran over my
- 3:53Speaker 2: neighbor's fence because my mom asked me to pull the
- 3:55Speaker 2: car in and I hit reverse and they paid for
- 3:58Speaker 2: their own fence. They were like, it's fine, we were
- 4:00Speaker 2: getting a new fence.
- 4:01Speaker 3: Anyway, It's Tyler Perry's house. Who cares. He's rich? Right?
- 4:10Speaker 3: Growing up, I.
- 4:11Speaker 2: Freaking wish my neighbor was Tyler Perry. All my neighbors
- 4:13Speaker 2: were white. Yes, I led to much harassment. I know.
- 4:19Speaker 2: I'm sorry I called you a magic No.
- 4:22Speaker 3: I'm just saying you you might be the magicalist negro
- 4:26Speaker 3: of them all.
- 4:27Speaker 2: I'm trying to be every day. But it will not
- 4:30Speaker 2: involve me driving anyone to the airport. We can get
- 4:34Speaker 2: into it what's hot and fraud. So this is where
- 4:36Speaker 2: Lamar and I are going to talk about. What's popping
- 4:39Speaker 2: in these streets is what scams are out there. We
- 4:42Speaker 2: want to keep you safe from scams unless they're my scams,
- 4:45Speaker 2: which you have willingly agreed to participate in. If you
- 4:48Speaker 2: own an iPhone, especially because I know you didn't read
- 4:50Speaker 2: that contract that you accepted. You don't know what it says.
- 4:56Speaker 3: I have a clue. I have no idea what the
- 4:58Speaker 3: show is about. I'm I mean for a journey. This
- 5:02Speaker 3: is gonna be fun. I think.
- 5:05Speaker 2: You know it's gonna be fun because I'm here. So, guys,
- 5:11Speaker 2: obviously we've been amissed a pandemic and the scammers, just
- 5:16Speaker 2: like Miss Roona, they don't sleep. Okay, they're out here
- 5:19Speaker 2: just like the virus, and they're spreading and you need
- 5:22Speaker 2: to be aware. Apparently coronavirus scams have cost Americans thirty
- 5:27Speaker 2: nine million dollars so far. Wow, mind you we've been
- 5:32Speaker 2: in the pandemic for like three months. That's like ten
- 5:35Speaker 2: million a month, so Americans. Yeah, okay, thank you, thank you.
- 5:43Speaker 2: I can do mad too, I said, oh you know what,
- 5:51Speaker 2: you see, I am gonna call yougal negro.
- 5:58Speaker 3: You know what.
- 5:59Speaker 2: Thank you for letting me go ahead on my podcast
- 6:01Speaker 2: one morning. Thank you so much for telling me I
- 6:03Speaker 2: can talk. Ookay, see the patriarchy that's why we don't
- 6:06Speaker 2: be having men on this show.
- 6:11Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
- 6:12Speaker 2: I'm yes, get nice and strong nearly fifty thousand Americans
- 6:20Speaker 2: have already filed complaints this year with the Federal Trade
- 6:22Speaker 2: Commission over fraud related to COVID nineteen. So let's let's
- 6:27Speaker 2: get into what these frauds are. So one of the
- 6:31Speaker 2: big popular things that's going around is people sending text messages, which, guys,
- 6:39Speaker 2: I've told you the government ain't gonna text you. You
- 6:42Speaker 2: ain't gonna get a U up from Uncle Sam.
- 6:45Speaker 3: Oh is it like one of those oh wait, people
- 6:49Speaker 3: are getting scammed through like like click this link in
- 6:52Speaker 3: the text type of deal.
- 6:54Speaker 2: Yeah. So, basically there's a robot robotech scam that sends
- 6:59Speaker 2: out text that's from the Eternal Revenue Service purportedly, and
- 7:04Speaker 2: they ask for confirmation information for a stimulus payment through
- 7:08Speaker 2: a link. So if you click on it, the link
- 7:10Speaker 2: takes you to a realistic IRS web page where you're
- 7:13Speaker 2: prompted to provide your name, contact information, and social Security number.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Once you've entered your personal information, you're then redirected to
- 7:19Speaker 2: the real IRS website to make the scam look less suspicious.
- 7:24Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's crazy.
- 7:28Speaker 2: Yeah, And I know, right, I know stimulus checks are
- 7:33Speaker 2: going out. I know a lot of you guys are
- 7:35Speaker 2: probably on unemployment or will continue to be on unemployment
- 7:38Speaker 2: well throughout this period of time. So like, if you
- 7:42Speaker 2: get a text message from the government, it's not real.
- 7:46Speaker 3: What do they call it? One more time?
- 7:48Speaker 2: The goverment?
- 7:50Speaker 3: Okay, tell you something. If the government call you, yeah,
- 7:55Speaker 3: it's a scam the gun.
- 7:59Speaker 2: Do you remember at Nelly video with Kelly Rowland where
- 8:02Speaker 2: she was texting in the Exhale Expressie, that's who's texting y'all.
- 8:09Speaker 2: That's who's texting Y'all's Kelly Roland in the expels like
- 8:13Speaker 2: it's excel spress.
- 8:15Speaker 3: Don't do it.
- 8:17Speaker 2: Does not text you. They don't. They're not like, hey,
- 8:21Speaker 2: did you pay your taxes? This uncle Sam, I'm gonna
- 8:23Speaker 2: hit you up.
- 8:25Speaker 3: This is your uncle Sam. This is your uncle. Pick
- 8:27Speaker 3: up the phone. That's your uncle, right.
- 8:29Speaker 2: You thought it was uncle Sam, but it was your
- 8:30Speaker 2: uncle Sam. So guys, please, I'm begging you. If you
- 8:34Speaker 2: get a text from the government, ignore it, report it,
- 8:38Speaker 2: keep yourself saved. Another way that they're doing it is robocalls.
- 8:41Speaker 2: Robo calls are a huge area for scammers right now.
- 8:44Speaker 2: One of the most common ones that's popping up is
- 8:46Speaker 2: for fake refunds related to coronavirus. The key to this
- 8:50Speaker 2: scheme is that scammers never mentioned what the refund is
- 8:52Speaker 2: exactly for. With many companies from car insurance providers to
- 8:55Speaker 2: utilities offering refunds and discounts right now, it's easy for
- 8:59Speaker 2: customers to assume something like that, which I'm getting a
- 9:03Speaker 2: refund from All State every month. They're refunding half of
- 9:06Speaker 2: my insurance. My premium is high because they know a
- 9:09Speaker 2: bitch can't drive.
- 9:11Speaker 3: Wow, so why wait, why are you getting refunds again?
- 9:14Speaker 2: Because no one's really driving right now. So insurance companies, yeah,
- 9:21Speaker 2: you know what, la more. That's just telling me that
- 9:23Speaker 2: you've gotten too rich because now you don't even know
- 9:25Speaker 2: how much you're paying in insurance this month?
- 9:27Speaker 3: Do you why know how much? I'm well, I don't.
- 9:30Speaker 3: I don't like go into my account with.
- 9:32Speaker 2: Like do you know this much?
- 9:34Speaker 3: And I'll go no, I don't like put pull the
- 9:36Speaker 3: money out. I don't go to the bank every month
- 9:37Speaker 3: ago I have to pay my insurance. Can you hand
- 9:39Speaker 3: me just enough cash from set account so I can
- 9:42Speaker 3: then walk to the insurance company and then stick it
- 9:45Speaker 3: in the slot and then wait and see No fool
- 9:49Speaker 3: is it?
- 9:49Speaker 2: You know?
- 9:50Speaker 3: Automatic pay or stuff like. You know, I have a business.
- 9:53Speaker 2: Manager saying, look, you don't have to be rich to
- 9:55Speaker 2: be on direc deposit. I'm just saying a lot of
- 9:58Speaker 2: us don't know. I didn't know. I went to the
- 10:01Speaker 2: ATT store and got a new phone and they were like, oh,
- 10:03Speaker 2: how's your service, like your you know service from my
- 10:07Speaker 2: apartment like the cable and Wi Fi. And I was like, oh,
- 10:10Speaker 2: I don't know. It seems pretty bad. And they were like,
- 10:12Speaker 2: how much do you pay? And I was like, m oh,
- 10:18Speaker 2: I'm a money right. That's the question. That's the real
- 10:24Speaker 2: black people question right there. How much you paying? Because
- 10:26Speaker 2: I should be paying.
- 10:26Speaker 3: What you paying exactly exactly. Yeah, No, I definitely don't.
- 10:31Speaker 3: I know. I know what my insurance is, I know what,
- 10:33Speaker 3: I know how much, but I didn't because of I
- 10:36Speaker 3: didn't know that we were getting uh we get discounts
- 10:40Speaker 3: because you can't go nowhere, because what happens if you
- 10:43Speaker 3: just decide I do need to go to the grocery
- 10:45Speaker 3: store and bam, you hit somebody like that.
- 10:49Speaker 2: Changed insurances crowdfund All insurances is GoFundMe for accidents and
- 10:54Speaker 2: also just a scam for rich people. So all we
- 10:58Speaker 2: do is pay to hope that we're not in an accident.
- 11:01Speaker 2: So everybody's paying unless people are driving. So it makes sense.
- 11:04Speaker 2: But of course, like I feel like if I asked
- 11:06Speaker 2: one more and like who his insurance provider would be,
- 11:08Speaker 2: he'd be like the black man from TV.
- 11:13Speaker 3: The de Voice, real sexual, Like I think my mom.
- 11:15Speaker 2: The president of twenty four.
- 11:20Speaker 3: No, I know my insurance companies areful. I have a few.
- 11:24Speaker 2: My insurance company the nigga in the red polo in
- 11:27Speaker 2: the case Jake, I think his name is Drake.
- 11:31Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Jake, light skin dude, real nice size.
- 11:35Speaker 2: Oh so you've been seeing Jay. So to wrap this up,
- 11:41Speaker 2: the robo call will call you and be like, we
- 11:43Speaker 2: can't provide this service due to COVID nineteen. You've been
- 11:47Speaker 2: charged three hundred and ninety nine dollars. This is what
- 11:49Speaker 2: the FTC said, is like the common amount that they're saying,
- 11:51Speaker 2: press one to claim a refund, and then when you
- 11:54Speaker 2: press one to claim a refund, they'll ask you for
- 11:56Speaker 2: your credit card information or banking information so that they
- 12:00Speaker 2: can deposit said refund. I'm doing air quotations. They're stealing
- 12:05Speaker 2: your money. So guys, if you get a phone call
- 12:08Speaker 2: like ALSA gave me my money back and I was like, oh,
- 12:11Speaker 2: it wasn't. They didn't call me and were like, hey, sis,
- 12:13Speaker 2: we're trying to run you coins. They were like, we
- 12:15Speaker 2: put some shit back, bitch. We don't want to talk about.
- 12:17Speaker 3: It either way. Either. Phrasing sounds like a scam.
- 12:23Speaker 2: It's church is a scam.
- 12:25Speaker 3: Wait, so so you call.
- 12:27Speaker 2: Them, Yeah, they don't.
- 12:30Speaker 3: They should call you first. Well, I don't know who
- 12:33Speaker 3: falls for this stuff.
- 12:35Speaker 2: A lot of people, elderly people, people who are desperate.
- 12:40Speaker 2: We talk about that on our show all the time,
- 12:41Speaker 2: the despo meter. If you're really like you have to
- 12:44Speaker 2: constantly evaluate how desperate you are for something before you
- 12:48Speaker 2: do that thing, which works in many aspects of life.
- 12:52Speaker 2: So like if you're about to go on a tender
- 12:54Speaker 2: date or a bumble date and you know it's quarantine
- 12:56Speaker 2: and it's been a minute since you got some maybe
- 12:59Speaker 2: think about think about your desperation before you go on
- 13:03Speaker 2: the date.
- 13:05Speaker 3: You don't want to be out here, right.
- 13:09Speaker 2: And that goes for financial stuff too. If it seems
- 13:12Speaker 2: too good to be true, it usually is give it
- 13:14Speaker 2: a quick google. That'll save you some time and some money.
- 13:17Speaker 2: But you know, people not just calling you giving you
- 13:19Speaker 2: money and the government is not gonna text you girl. Uh.
- 13:22Speaker 2: This actually happened to me. I had a census survey,
- 13:25Speaker 2: which was supposed to be the twenty twenty censues. This
- 13:27Speaker 2: happened two weeks ago. This woman called me and just
- 13:29Speaker 2: started asking me an onslot of questions, and I thought
- 13:32Speaker 2: it was the real sensus because I was like, Oh,
- 13:33Speaker 2: this is great, I don't have to go online. Maybe
- 13:35Speaker 2: they just moved it, you know, because they come to
- 13:37Speaker 2: your door. So I was like, maybe they're just calling
- 13:39Speaker 2: niggas now. And then I talked to her and she
- 13:42Speaker 2: was going through this laundry list of stuff. Do you
- 13:45Speaker 2: have precondition like pre existing conditions? I was like, no,
- 13:47Speaker 2: I don't. I was like, I'm healthy. The only thing
- 13:49Speaker 2: I have is asthma. And they were like, okay, how
- 13:51Speaker 2: about diabetes? And I was like, okay, now you're asking
- 13:53Speaker 2: too many questions, Like I felt.
- 13:55Speaker 3: Like she was in jail. What what do you What
- 14:00Speaker 3: are you saying?
- 14:01Speaker 2: What's your favorite number? And the first pet you ever had?
- 14:08Speaker 3: Just the color greed? Is this the color greed? I
- 14:11Speaker 3: don't know.
- 14:12Speaker 2: You were definitely trying to ask me security questions. And
- 14:15Speaker 2: then when I hung up because I was like, this
- 14:16Speaker 2: ain't right. She started texting me talking about she was
- 14:19Speaker 2: from the Sisters bureau. Then I said, no, you're not.
- 14:21Speaker 2: Then she said, actually I'm not. I'm from another bureau.
- 14:24Speaker 2: I was like, girl. She got me two more times
- 14:28Speaker 2: before finally she gave up. I was like, I'm not
- 14:30Speaker 2: going to give you my information.
- 14:32Speaker 3: She told you to hang out. She's like, what you're doing.
- 14:37Speaker 2: All in the house? Girl, what you're watching? What's on Netflix?
- 14:41Speaker 3: You want to do? Is you want to do a
- 14:42Speaker 3: zoom get together?
- 14:45Speaker 2: I started doing a zoom get together with my scammer. Yeah,
- 14:49Speaker 2: I just hang out with him.
- 14:50Speaker 3: Have you had any actual scammers come on your show?
- 14:54Speaker 2: Not yet, but I did. What's crazy? You asked that?
- 14:57Speaker 2: I did just get an email from a scammer the
- 15:00Speaker 2: week that I talked about called Chad Focus, Who's a
- 15:03Speaker 2: rapper who stole one hundred and I think he's aid
- 15:06Speaker 2: one point two million dollars from the job he was
- 15:09Speaker 2: working at in credit card fraud so that he could
- 15:11Speaker 2: buy billboards and fake streams for his rap album whoa Yeah.
- 15:17Speaker 2: And then we played his raps and they were good.
- 15:21Speaker 4: They were good raps, really.
- 15:25Speaker 2: And guys, Chad Focus emailed me and was like, I
- 15:28Speaker 2: love the show. Tell people to stream Chad focus good.
- 15:33Speaker 3: Also drive down Melrose. I got a billboard yo, that
- 15:40Speaker 3: is crazy. He so he scammed his and he talked
- 15:44Speaker 3: Wait so he got caught.
- 15:45Speaker 2: Yeah, he got caught and he served a little jail time.
- 15:47Speaker 2: But he emailed me and said he was free. He
- 15:50Speaker 2: said he was free. Wait if I'm getting emails from jail, y'all,
- 15:55Speaker 2: I'm waiting the podcast. I love emails from jail. Subject
- 16:00Speaker 2: is someone's prison wife.
- 16:02Speaker 3: There was a subject line a picture of his dick.
- 16:04Speaker 3: That's in the subject line. I'm in jail. This isay right.
- 16:12Speaker 3: So he says the harassment. I'm already in jail.
- 16:16Speaker 2: Right, y'all. Can't lock me up again.
- 16:18Speaker 4: Double Jeopardy.
- 16:19Speaker 2: That's not how it works.
- 16:20Speaker 3: That's not how I watched Jeopardy. That's how it works.
- 16:25Speaker 2: The subject of Chad's email is very funny, smiley face,
- 16:29Speaker 2: and he says, deba lacy salute to you and your brand.
- 16:32Speaker 2: Love your last episode, lo o l very cute. You
- 16:34Speaker 2: gotta promote my billboard charting hit Dance with Me and
- 16:38Speaker 2: the Dance. He said, I need all the Dance with
- 16:42Speaker 2: Me royalties. I can get ps. I'm just out home,
- 16:46Speaker 2: chilling at my mansion. Would love to be a guest
- 16:48Speaker 2: on your show one day. Keep grinding.
- 16:52Speaker 3: He's chilling at.
- 16:55Speaker 2: He's chilling at his mansion.
- 16:58Speaker 3: Wait a minute, why wait? So he kept that money?
- 17:04Speaker 3: He said, I'll do the jail time and I ain't
- 17:06Speaker 3: gonna tell you why I buried the money, right.
- 17:08Speaker 2: Jess said, don't focus on that money.
- 17:10Speaker 4: Don't focus on that god killing in his mansion.
- 17:15Speaker 2: Oh God, bless him. All right, guys, on that note,
- 17:18Speaker 2: we're gonna take a quick break for some non scam advertisements.
- 17:22Speaker 2: Scarce God.
- 17:27Speaker 3: All right, everybody go get that new Chad Focus Chat Focus.
- 17:36Speaker 2: We're back. The last advertisement for Chad Focus came from
- 17:40Speaker 2: Lamar and Morris.
- 17:43Speaker 4: But we'll take it.
- 17:44Speaker 2: We'll take it. We love Chad on the show.
- 17:46Speaker 3: You want to picture money, It's okay.
- 17:53Speaker 2: He's chilling in his mansion.
- 17:56Speaker 3: Sitting outs left and right.
- 17:58Speaker 2: World, what stop making fun of my boyfriend. I'm gonna
- 18:02Speaker 2: be Chat Focused girlfriend.
- 18:03Speaker 3: Oh, y'all engaged.
- 18:07Speaker 2: That's what. I don't have to be a prison wife
- 18:09Speaker 2: now because he free. So I got the time for
- 18:14Speaker 2: my favorite segment of the podcast, his story.
- 18:18Speaker 3: I have a question I apologize. So they have mob wives,
- 18:21Speaker 3: they have basketball wives, housewives. Do they have prison wives?
- 18:27Speaker 2: No? I don't think so, but they should. I think
- 18:29Speaker 2: there's like a prison pinpal or love after lock up,
- 18:32Speaker 2: Love after lock Up. That's where the prison Wives is at.
- 18:35Speaker 3: Okay, because I want I need to see a show,
- 18:37Speaker 3: a real show called prison wives. So I gotta go.
- 18:39Speaker 3: I gotta start developing right now. I can't finish the
- 18:41Speaker 3: podcast because this is my billion dollar.
- 18:43Speaker 2: Opportunity, but it truly probably is. I want. I want
- 18:47Speaker 2: to do that scripted show. It's gonna look. You only
- 18:50Speaker 2: need like three locations.
- 18:54Speaker 4: Prison, living room, low budget, you can produce it.
- 19:08Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I'm sorry to interrupt Negro.
- 19:10Speaker 2: You ain't sorry. You're not sorry at all. Guys, We're back.
- 19:17Speaker 2: Lamarn is just gonna take over my podcast. And no,
- 19:22Speaker 2: he's not sorry, but I love it. I met Lemar.
- 19:27Speaker 2: I've only met Lamaran one time in person. We did
- 19:30Speaker 2: a show at UCB and that's when I met you.
- 19:36Speaker 3: Yes, and you, by far are one of the funniest
- 19:40Speaker 3: people I have ever met in my entire life. I
- 19:44Speaker 3: know I know how hard I mean, I know how
- 19:46Speaker 3: hard improv is. You know, obviously for you. It's it's
- 19:50Speaker 3: really easy. And I came up doing an improv in
- 19:53Speaker 3: Second City in Chicago, and I just like, I I
- 19:57Speaker 3: how effortless you guys made it look and how and
- 20:00Speaker 3: you're I mean, even when you're initiating, whether you're responding,
- 20:04Speaker 3: whether you I was like, god, damn, she's good. So
- 20:07Speaker 3: congress to man.
- 20:09Speaker 2: I would love to let lamore and keep complimenting me
- 20:11Speaker 2: because it's fine. But I know you guys came here
- 20:15Speaker 2: for other reasons, so we'll get back to the show.
- 20:18Speaker 2: But thank you. I didn't know you did Second City.
- 20:20Speaker 2: You're super funny. I never knew you did Second City.
- 20:23Speaker 2: That's freaking dope. Yeah, look at look at the morn
- 20:27Speaker 2: being a little improv nerd Yes.
- 20:29Speaker 3: A little dork me Sam Richardson.
- 20:34Speaker 2: So it's time for my favorite segment of the podcast,
- 20:37Speaker 2: Historic Hoodwinks. And this is where I'm going to regale
- 20:40Speaker 2: Lamarne with a very famous caper and we're just gonna
- 20:43Speaker 2: get his thoughts and opinions all throughout and maybe he'll
- 20:46Speaker 2: ask questions and maybe I'll have answers or maybe I won't. Again,
- 20:49Speaker 2: I'm not a journalist, thank you. This podcast is a
- 20:53Speaker 2: scam of me not being a journalist. So today we're
- 21:00Speaker 2: talking about Frank ab bug now Agail. Wow, you knew that,
- 21:11Speaker 2: Rank Abnegailuh, he's a talented scam artist. Mm hmmm. Talented
- 21:17Speaker 2: scam artist when he was sixteen. He post is an
- 21:19Speaker 2: airline pilot to get free fights. Oh, because this is
- 21:21Speaker 2: the plot of Catch Me if you can there. I
- 21:29Speaker 2: swear to you guys, every episode of our show has
- 21:32Speaker 2: either been a movie or is being made into a
- 21:35Speaker 2: movie or a Netflix show. Like every episode the scammers
- 21:39Speaker 2: are just I'm trying to I wanted to play Anna
- 21:45Speaker 2: Deelvi from our first episode. She's the one who was
- 21:47Speaker 2: the heiress scammer in New York City who had people
- 21:51Speaker 2: donating to a fake club that she was building. Shonda
- 21:53Speaker 2: Rimes bought the rights to that story. Really, she's my
- 21:57Speaker 2: favorite person. She is a white woman, so technically I
- 21:59Speaker 2: am not. However, white women have played not white women
- 22:02Speaker 2: all throughout history. Can't I just right?
- 22:06Speaker 3: But it's changing it up a little bit. Call it
- 22:09Speaker 3: an artistic license.
- 22:11Speaker 2: Right, I think it should be me?
- 22:14Speaker 3: But I think so too.
- 22:16Speaker 2: So Frank, how do you say his name?
- 22:19Speaker 3: Abnegail?
- 22:20Speaker 2: Abnegail? Thank you? Frank Abnegail? Was a talented scam artist
- 22:24Speaker 2: in many different ways. He was when he was sixteen,
- 22:26Speaker 2: he posted an airline pilot to get free flights and
- 22:29Speaker 2: also pretended to be a doctor and a lawyer. He
- 22:31Speaker 2: forged tacks to frauded banks, and a handful of other
- 22:34Speaker 2: things before eventually pulling a one to eighty and becoming
- 22:37Speaker 2: a snitch aka and FBI consultant. He was eventually hired
- 22:44Speaker 2: by the FBI as a consultant and then started his
- 22:46Speaker 2: own agency, educating corporations, financial institutions, and government organizations on
- 22:50Speaker 2: how to detect and handle fraudulents. A portion of his
- 22:53Speaker 2: life was subject to the film Catch Me if you Can,
- 22:56Speaker 2: starring Leonardo DiCaprio. Like we just said, I love that
- 23:01Speaker 2: he robbed people and then was like, hey, y'all hire
- 23:06Speaker 2: me so that I don't rob you no more. The privilege, right,
- 23:16Speaker 2: Why can't black people do this? Why can't the liquor
- 23:18Speaker 2: stores that people run into be like, look, hire me
- 23:22Speaker 2: and all yo, hannessy will be safe.
- 23:25Speaker 3: I'm gonna stop robbing you.
- 23:27Speaker 2: Just go ahead, right, I mean, the mob did that.
- 23:33Speaker 2: The mob used to be like, hey, oh, you don't
- 23:34Speaker 2: want us to ruin your life? Hire US, so I wish,
- 23:41Speaker 2: I wish more people could do it. So, Frank, Frank
- 23:46Speaker 2: what I can't remember it? Abneguil, thank you, Frank. Abneguil
- 23:52Speaker 2: Junior was born April twenty seventh and nineteen forty eight
- 23:55Speaker 2: in Bronxville, New York. See you from the Bronx. There's
- 23:58Speaker 2: this Bronxville. So that's not the Bronx, right, is the
- 24:00Speaker 2: Bronx Bronxville.
- 24:01Speaker 3: Unless unless it's Bronx for short. I had no wooh,
- 24:04Speaker 3: that's a fun fact. If that's true. Wait up minute,
- 24:10Speaker 3: Google opened up.
- 24:12Speaker 2: I'm gonna feel hella dumb. If Bronx is short for Bronxville.
- 24:17Speaker 3: Yo. If it is, don't tell nobody you didn't know that.
- 24:23Speaker 2: No, it's called the Bronx. No, it's called the Bronx. Okay, yeah,
- 24:30Speaker 2: it's called the Bronx. Okay, we're fine. We're fine. I
- 24:32Speaker 2: lived in New York for a few years before I
- 24:34Speaker 2: left because I hated it.
- 24:36Speaker 3: So me too.
- 24:39Speaker 2: It's a good shout out to New Yorkers because y'all
- 24:41Speaker 2: got grits. My guy, it's hard enough being a black
- 24:45Speaker 2: every day. Then you gotta go outside a five fifty
- 24:47Speaker 2: eleven people on the street and five fifty eleven people
- 24:49Speaker 2: on the train, and you gotta go to work like that,
- 24:53Speaker 2: You got work.
- 24:54Speaker 3: Yeah, every day is a headache. Every day is a headache.
- 24:59Speaker 3: Everybody going somewhere.
- 25:00Speaker 2: I became very agro when I lived in New York.
- 25:03Speaker 2: I became super agro. I went back, kicked the guy
- 25:06Speaker 2: down some subway stairs. I'm sorry, what a donkey kicked
- 25:10Speaker 2: a man down some subway steps?
- 25:13Speaker 3: What did he do to you.
- 25:16Speaker 2: There? So there's a rule in New York where if
- 25:18Speaker 2: this is an unspoken room, and now my New York
- 25:20Speaker 2: acting gonna come out, there's an unspoken room. If there's
- 25:23Speaker 2: a train on the platform, then you move because people
- 25:26Speaker 2: gotta go. So if you're coming up the stairs and
- 25:28Speaker 2: you already got off the train, there's training on the platform,
- 25:30Speaker 2: you move. There's no train on the platform. I'm coming
- 25:32Speaker 2: up the stairs off the train. This white man barrels
- 25:34Speaker 2: into me. It's mad room, it's my room. He barrels
- 25:38Speaker 2: into me and with chest the chest, and I look
- 25:40Speaker 2: at him and I say really, and he says, yeah, really,
- 25:43Speaker 2: And then when he stepped behind me, donkey kicked him
- 25:46Speaker 2: down the steps and then I ran RRP.
- 25:50Speaker 3: That guy what if he found out later that he died.
- 25:52Speaker 2: He ain't die. How do you know he ain died?
- 25:58Speaker 2: If he died, I was probably rested.
- 26:00Speaker 3: What if you go to New York and you see
- 26:02Speaker 3: like rip t shirts, like the airbrushed denim jackets with
- 26:05Speaker 3: his face on it.
- 26:09Speaker 2: He's like, don't put that thought in my head. Nobody's
- 26:15Speaker 2: that white man.
- 26:16Speaker 3: You gotta go to sleep with with that on your chest?
- 26:19Speaker 2: Thank you so, Bronxville, New York. According to the memoir
- 26:23Speaker 2: at Neguil, did I say it right?
- 26:27Speaker 3: Just call him Jack?
- 26:28Speaker 2: Okay, you know what, I'm just gonna call him Frank.
- 26:30Speaker 2: Frank stated that he had a stable childhood and was
- 26:33Speaker 2: especially close to his father, who traveled off often and
- 26:36Speaker 2: became deeply involved in Republican local politics. Right sis. Anyway,
- 26:40Speaker 2: when his mother decided to leave Frank Senior due to
- 26:43Speaker 2: her husband's absences, their family was turned upside down as
- 26:47Speaker 2: his mother worked towards independence. Frank Junior decided to live
- 26:49Speaker 2: with his father after the divorce and often tagged along
- 26:52Speaker 2: on the business dealings. So I imagine, like Frank Junior is
- 26:54Speaker 2: probably in some hotels and they're like, little Frankie, make
- 26:58Speaker 2: us up some cocktails. You know how rich white people
- 27:06Speaker 2: were doing in the fifties. They'd be like and put
- 27:07Speaker 2: two olives in it for daddy and your auntie.
- 27:13Speaker 3: If they come over here and give Auntie a kiss
- 27:15Speaker 3: on the mouth. Open.
- 27:21Speaker 2: Those times were crazy. I can't no, no, no, not you.
- 27:24Speaker 2: I'm saying the times like.
- 27:26Speaker 3: That was I was there.
- 27:29Speaker 2: I don't think you more. You're not that.
- 27:32Speaker 3: I'm very old. I'm very old.
- 27:35Speaker 2: How old you are?
- 27:37Speaker 3: No, you think you know, but you have no idea.
- 27:40Speaker 3: You only know what you only know what I think
- 27:42Speaker 3: you you only know what I want you to know.
- 27:45Speaker 3: Oh okay, saving it for this podcast to reveal my
- 27:49Speaker 3: true age.
- 27:51Speaker 2: So, as a teenager, Frank got caught up in petty crimes,
- 27:55Speaker 2: including shoplifting. He's sooned, retired of these practices and this
- 28:00Speaker 2: to move on into more sophisticated forms of burglary. O king,
- 28:03Speaker 2: you gotta work your way up. It was like shoplifting,
- 28:05Speaker 2: elementary school, burglary.
- 28:08Speaker 3: High pickpocketing, stuff like that.
- 28:13Speaker 2: So he Frank convinced a gas station attendance to give
- 28:16Speaker 2: him a portion of his sale back in cash and
- 28:18Speaker 2: allowed him to portion a pocket of the proceeds. Hmmm,
- 28:23Speaker 2: so gas cards are a thing of the past. I
- 28:26Speaker 2: don't know nothing about no gas card.
- 28:28Speaker 3: I do.
- 28:30Speaker 2: I don't believe you.
- 28:32Speaker 3: I'm very familiar. I still have some of them from
- 28:34Speaker 3: the old days.
- 28:35Speaker 2: I truly do not believe you. You don't even know
- 28:38Speaker 2: who your insurance provider is.
- 28:42Speaker 5: It's insurance insurance, dot com insurance, that website, that website,
- 28:52Speaker 5: you know the guys.
- 28:57Speaker 2: This is like a small scam, and I like this
- 28:59Speaker 2: scam because I like that he was like, look, I'm
- 29:01Speaker 2: gonna get a cut. You're gonna get a cut, like
- 29:03Speaker 2: the gas station attenda they making bank.
- 29:06Speaker 3: You're still just I'm just I'm just dying at the
- 29:08Speaker 3: fact that you're like, I like this scam, man. This
- 29:12Speaker 3: is saying a lot about who you are as a person.
- 29:16Speaker 2: Listen, America is a scam, The economy is a scam.
- 29:21Speaker 2: Capitalism is a scam, and certainly gas stations are one
- 29:26Speaker 2: of the biggest scams, because let's talk about oil, big scam.
- 29:29Speaker 2: So if you can get a couple of coins off
- 29:31Speaker 2: the gas station, get it, you just you earned it.
- 29:36Speaker 2: They robbed you, you robbed them back.
- 29:39Speaker 3: Or you can just drive electric.
- 29:41Speaker 2: Yeah, you know these times they had a gas card.
- 29:44Speaker 2: So I'm guessing they didn't have electric cars.
- 29:49Speaker 3: We won't go there. Conspiracy theories, Mark scam Samson, Mark Samson,
- 29:59Speaker 3: you'll find something. Look up, Mark Sampson. I'll tell you.
- 30:04Speaker 2: Guy. Suddenly the morning has foil on his head. I
- 30:09Speaker 2: don't know. So this scam fell apart when his father
- 30:18Speaker 2: got the credit card bill, which added up to thousands
- 30:21Speaker 2: of dollars, which duh, just like he's gonna get a jail.
- 30:28Speaker 2: So dismayed over his son's delinquency, Frank's mother sent him
- 30:32Speaker 2: to a school for wayward boys. Don't send a scammer
- 30:36Speaker 2: to a school for wayward boys. He can do nothing
- 30:39Speaker 2: but learn how to get better there and fuck right.
- 30:44Speaker 2: That's like when people try to send the children to
- 30:46Speaker 2: conversion camps. Ain't everybody they're gonna be gay? Were gay?
- 30:56Speaker 2: It's okay. I'm like, I wish, I wish somebody would
- 30:58Speaker 2: send me to a diverge camp. I'll be like, all
- 30:59Speaker 2: these girls fantastic, They're like what and they're all here
- 31:04Speaker 2: for the same reason. I'm down, Like I'm into it,
- 31:09Speaker 2: Like what.
- 31:10Speaker 3: Well, can I go back to conversion camp again?
- 31:13Speaker 2: I need to be conversion somewhere, but honest and all
- 31:17Speaker 2: those camps are horrible, but they're fucking I just don't
- 31:19Speaker 2: even understand why people would make camps like that, also
- 31:22Speaker 2: camps for wayward boys. What are y'all doing? Is that
- 31:24Speaker 2: military camp? The only thing I've ever heard from children
- 31:27Speaker 2: was military school, which is also trash because we was
- 31:29Speaker 2: trying to indoctrinate them to going into the army. Boo boo.
- 31:32Speaker 2: A scam, so.
- 31:37Speaker 3: A scam.
- 31:43Speaker 1: So.
- 31:44Speaker 2: Caught between his parents' tensions, Frank reportedly left home at
- 31:47Speaker 2: sixteen years old. So he just said, I'm out, you
- 31:49Speaker 2: know what, I'll just be an adult, and at that time,
- 31:51Speaker 2: you can be an adult. At sixteen, he had a
- 31:53Speaker 2: little in his bank account, no education, and had altered
- 31:57Speaker 2: his driver's license to make himself ten years older than
- 31:59Speaker 2: he was and exaggerated his education, which is like, who's
- 32:02Speaker 2: gonna check you?
- 32:03Speaker 3: Boo.
- 32:05Speaker 2: He got better paying jobs, he decided to quit working
- 32:08Speaker 2: and wrote bad checks for himself to support it. So
- 32:14Speaker 2: he was getting better paying jobs, but he was like,
- 32:17Speaker 2: this is barely making the ends meet, So he decided
- 32:20Speaker 2: to quit working and just start writing bad checks.
- 32:25Speaker 3: Said okay, all right, cool.
- 32:27Speaker 2: Before long, Frank had ridden hundreds of bad checks and
- 32:30Speaker 2: overdrawn his account by thousands of dollars. Knowing that he
- 32:33Speaker 2: would eventually be caught, he went into hiding. Frank realized
- 32:37Speaker 2: that he could cash more bad checks if he dazzled
- 32:39Speaker 2: bank tellers with new and more impressive personality. He decided
- 32:44Speaker 2: pilots were highly respected professionals, so he schemed his way
- 32:47Speaker 2: to getting a pilot's uniform. Frank called Pan American Airlines
- 32:52Speaker 2: headquarters and told them that he had lost his uniform
- 32:56Speaker 2: while traveling, and they told him where to pick up
- 32:59Speaker 2: a new one, and he charged it to the company
- 33:03Speaker 2: using a fake I d wow, this guy. Honestly, PANDAM
- 33:10Speaker 2: is no more. But he was just like, hey, hey PanAm,
- 33:13Speaker 2: Hey yeah, your boy lost his uniform. I realized when
- 33:18Speaker 2: I'm flying around, I have to wear the uniform to fly.
- 33:20Speaker 2: But somehow in transit I had.
- 33:22Speaker 3: Lost because I remember I took it off midflight. Then
- 33:28Speaker 3: when I got off, I couldn't find said uniform. Maybe
- 33:31Speaker 3: if you guys want to go up there and check. Yeah,
- 33:33Speaker 3: but I just really need to get a new one.
- 33:35Speaker 3: I gotta. I got a route to Costa Rica.
- 33:37Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, flights, routes, air planes, turbulence, turbulence,
- 33:50Speaker 2: you know you know what I'm talking about, like and
- 33:53Speaker 2: then immediately gets a new that's crazy. But back in
- 33:56Speaker 2: that day, like they didn't check shit, like they had
- 33:59Speaker 2: no wait, it was just all trust and most people
- 34:02Speaker 2: didn't have the audacity to lie about random shit like
- 34:04Speaker 2: needing a pilot's uniform. So it worked. His ruse earned
- 34:08Speaker 2: him valuable information about how to impersonate a pilot, which
- 34:11Speaker 2: he did allegedly, and like, so he would do this
- 34:14Speaker 2: impersonation so he coud get free flights. He would just
- 34:16Speaker 2: get on the flight. Like yeah, I'm just like you
- 34:19Speaker 2: just going to the airport. You're just checking to see
- 34:21Speaker 2: what time flights leave, and you just go to the airport.
- 34:26Speaker 1: Yo.
- 34:26Speaker 3: Have you seen the movie?
- 34:29Speaker 2: Not in a long time?
- 34:31Speaker 3: No, Yeah, what you're telling me is obviously a lot
- 34:34Speaker 3: more information than the movie gives. But like it's it's
- 34:38Speaker 3: it's crazy. It's crazy, this type of stuff that he
- 34:42Speaker 3: got away with. Keep reading, I think you'll obviously you're
- 34:46Speaker 3: he touches on some things. But I just as you're talking,
- 34:48Speaker 3: I'm like imagining the film and I'm like, wait a minute, Yeah, that's.
- 34:51Speaker 2: Yeah, right that these things happened. And now I wish
- 34:54Speaker 2: I had seen the movie before I did this. I
- 34:56Speaker 2: don't remember the movie, but I do remember seeing Leonardo
- 34:59Speaker 2: DiCaprio in it, Tiler. I think I was pretty young
- 35:07Speaker 2: when it came out, and you with your undersclosed age.
- 35:11Speaker 2: I'll never sev so expenses such as food or lodging
- 35:18Speaker 2: he would build to the airline company. However, he didn't
- 35:21Speaker 2: fly on PanAm planes out of fear that he could
- 35:23Speaker 2: potentially be identified by real PanAm employees or like pilots.
- 35:29Speaker 2: So he he's so smart. He was like, I'm gonna
- 35:31Speaker 2: get a PanAm uniform, but I'm not gonna go on
- 35:34Speaker 2: PanAm because them nigga's gonna be like, oh yeah, we
- 35:37Speaker 2: see with the last cookout. Yeah we have seen you
- 35:44Speaker 2: on no videos, we.
- 35:47Speaker 3: No functions, no sexual harassment functions.
- 35:50Speaker 2: We just saw the video. Like PanAm shoots a video
- 35:53Speaker 2: like Virgin Airlines. You know they have that, like everybody
- 36:00Speaker 2: from Virgin is in that video, including so many actors.
- 36:03Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. And you know what, whenever I get
- 36:07Speaker 3: on those flights and I see uh like these if
- 36:11Speaker 3: you get on British airways, they have like all these
- 36:13Speaker 3: like dope British actors doing this bit. Like everybody if
- 36:17Speaker 3: you name it. They're all in this video in Virgin
- 36:19Speaker 3: they have all these fun like actors dancing around and performers,
- 36:23Speaker 3: and I always get on these flights and I go,
- 36:25Speaker 3: ain't nobody called me to do this ship?
- 36:32Speaker 2: I won't lie. I saw the little boy from Blackish
- 36:34Speaker 2: in and I was like, wait a minute, you're ready.
- 36:40Speaker 2: We gonna get it all up in the sky, Virgin
- 36:43Speaker 2: the nose.
- 36:46Speaker 3: By the time you leave this airline, you won't be
- 36:48Speaker 3: a Virgin no mobile, right.
- 36:52Speaker 2: We would have been great Virgin. We would have been great.
- 36:54Speaker 2: I know y'all got bought by Alaska Airlines and that's
- 36:56Speaker 2: about to be poop, but you know you missed out.
- 37:00Speaker 2: We would have been dancing in your videos. So once
- 37:04Speaker 2: PanAm police began catching on to Frank's lies, he decided
- 37:07Speaker 2: to change his identity again and become an out of
- 37:10Speaker 2: town doctor in Georgia. Well was an out of town doctor,
- 37:15Speaker 2: that's right. So for eleven months, Frank impersonated a chief
- 37:19Speaker 2: resident pediatrician at a Georgia hospital under the alias Frank Williams.
- 37:24Speaker 2: I like that alias because it's like, you don't want
- 37:26Speaker 2: to give yourself a fake first name, because then when
- 37:29Speaker 2: people call you by your name, like.
- 37:31Speaker 4: Who, who's Brooks?
- 37:34Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I'm Brooks.
- 37:35Speaker 2: Yea yea yeah, never mind, I'm Brooks. What was I saying?
- 37:38Speaker 3: Me Brooks?
- 37:39Speaker 2: That's why I am right today.
- 37:41Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going.
- 37:43Speaker 2: To keep the first name the same and the last
- 37:45Speaker 2: name switch it up so when filing out. When filling
- 37:49Speaker 2: out a rental application, he impulsively listed his occupation as doctor.
- 37:53Speaker 2: After befriending a real doctor who lived in the same
- 37:55Speaker 2: apartment complex, he agreed to act as a supervisor resident
- 37:59Speaker 2: of interns as a favor until the local hospital could
- 38:02Speaker 2: find someone else to take the job. So he've met
- 38:04Speaker 2: somebody who was a doctor. He was like, can I
- 38:08Speaker 2: borrow a cup of sugar? Oh? Hey, you got on
- 38:10Speaker 2: a white coat? Are you a doctor? Because I have
- 38:14Speaker 2: as well. In addition to you, also a doctor went
- 38:18Speaker 2: to doctor school for doctor ing.
- 38:21Speaker 3: So here's what happened. I lost my coat on a flight.
- 38:25Speaker 3: Uh do you have an extra doctor's coat? Light around?
- 38:30Speaker 2: That's how he got his doctors.
- 38:32Speaker 3: I lost my coat in a surgery. It might still
- 38:35Speaker 3: be inside the patient I need.
- 38:42Speaker 2: Sadly, they do be leaving stuff in people rags and
- 38:45Speaker 2: ship so I know not unlikely. But also this is
- 38:51Speaker 2: just such a brilliant white life that I wish that
- 38:55Speaker 2: I could be a part of, to like be white
- 38:57Speaker 2: and talk to your next door neighbor and get you
- 39:00Speaker 2: a doctor job with you're white, you're characteratic.
- 39:09Speaker 3: It could be fun. So yeah, so stuff up, add
- 39:15Speaker 3: some til and all your fine.
- 39:16Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it's it's honestly, it's autopilot. You go in.
- 39:22Speaker 3: Speaking of here.
- 39:23Speaker 2: Right, So the position was not demanding for Frank, as
- 39:28Speaker 2: seven interns were eager to experience get experienced under his position.
- 39:33Speaker 2: Imagine that you're the I want to know who these
- 39:35Speaker 2: interns are, because I don't want a doctor who studied
- 39:37Speaker 2: under Frank. He didn't teach them ship.
- 39:40Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, a lot of I
- 39:43Speaker 3: wonder how many people he was because of this, his tenure,
- 39:46Speaker 3: this however short lived stint, this was. I wonder how
- 39:50Speaker 3: many people died in a direct result of him being
- 39:53Speaker 3: in that hospital.
- 39:55Speaker 2: Right, we've got a guy with a swollen abdomen. What
- 40:00Speaker 2: should we do, Frank? It's like Tyler, Now, yeahs are swollen.
- 40:10Speaker 3: Cut off his toe.
- 40:11Speaker 2: The blood draining will drain the ab trust me, No,
- 40:18Speaker 2: I hate to know what. I hate to know what
- 40:20Speaker 2: they learned he was able to fake his way through
- 40:22Speaker 2: most of his duties by letting his intern show off.
- 40:24Speaker 2: They're handling of the cases coming in during his late
- 40:27Speaker 2: night shift. So basically people would come in and he'd
- 40:32Speaker 2: be like, what do you think we should do and
- 40:35Speaker 2: act like he was house.
- 40:37Speaker 3: Yeah, amp and a cane.
- 40:41Speaker 2: Well, you're not supposed to let them practice all. People's
- 40:43Speaker 2: supposed to help them. That's what interning's for, so they
- 40:46Speaker 2: see you do it. He was like, what do you
- 40:48Speaker 2: want to school? Do that? I think that's more responsible
- 40:52Speaker 2: than what we said he was doing.
- 40:55Speaker 3: He's like, listen, I'm not going to be there for you.
- 40:57Speaker 3: Hold in your hand, so you make the call.
- 41:00Speaker 2: Yo. I feel like he said those exact words. Honestly,
- 41:04Speaker 2: you just inspired me. I feel like I could do
- 41:07Speaker 2: surgery now.
- 41:08Speaker 3: See now you're gonna listen. You are a true crook,
- 41:11Speaker 3: like a true movie villain. You are.
- 41:15Speaker 2: I'm like, suitre, yeah, I like.
- 41:18Speaker 3: I feel like when you leave your apartment there's a
- 41:21Speaker 3: getaway car outside, like it's a regular car, but you
- 41:24Speaker 3: speed off as if you just got away with something.
- 41:26Speaker 2: This is just the way I do drive like I'm
- 41:29Speaker 2: playing the scene of a crime.
- 41:31Speaker 3: That's my favorite, like halle Berry or Brandy. Oh no.
- 41:39Speaker 2: My favorite trump about halle Berry is that she's always
- 41:41Speaker 2: losing her kids in movies, like we got a movie
- 41:48Speaker 2: about a missing kid call Hallie losing. Yeah, look, she's
- 41:52Speaker 2: lost of kids.
- 41:55Speaker 3: Losing guys. No, you take it back, man.
- 42:00Speaker 2: Genre like you getting type cast for losing kids?
- 42:04Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh my gosh. So she had that nine one
- 42:06Speaker 3: one movie, yeah, losing Isaiah, she had Monster's Ball.
- 42:12Speaker 2: And I'm currently writing Where My Baby Go for her,
- 42:15Speaker 2: so hoping that she likes it, Where my Baby Go with. Sorry,
- 42:22Speaker 2: halle Berry, it's gonna be ah.
- 42:26Speaker 3: Halle Berry boking would buy.
- 42:29Speaker 2: It's like not even her real life. It's just her
- 42:31Speaker 2: acting character that has niched her like this truly. So
- 42:38Speaker 2: he left the hospital after he realized that he could
- 42:40Speaker 2: put lives at risk by his inability to respond to
- 42:43Speaker 2: life and death situations, and this was a catalyst. Like
- 42:48Speaker 2: the catalyst for him leaving the hospital was because he
- 42:50Speaker 2: was nearly exposed when an infant became critically unwell from
- 42:53Speaker 2: oxygen deprivation, and he initially didn't understand the meaning or
- 42:58Speaker 2: gravity of the situation, and when the nurse informed him
- 43:01Speaker 2: of a blue baby. He's like blue baby. He was like, oh, okay,
- 43:06Speaker 2: we got white ones, brown ones, yellow ones, blue.
- 43:11Speaker 4: Face baby.
- 43:14Speaker 2: Bus now baby, and they're like, no, the baby's dying.
- 43:22Speaker 2: But I love that. He was like, no, what never mind.
- 43:26Speaker 3: Oh, I'm get up out of here, y'all. That's my time, y'all.
- 43:32Speaker 3: I'm Frank Williams. That's gon Time'll been good.
- 43:35Speaker 2: It's been the hospital has been great. In turns, y'all
- 43:38Speaker 2: been great.
- 43:40Speaker 3: Shout out to blue face Baby.
- 43:43Speaker 2: No. So he left after that, he said, okay, too much,
- 43:48Speaker 2: we're leaving. So over the next two years he bounced
- 43:51Speaker 2: around from job to job. Eventually, Frank's passed caught up
- 43:54Speaker 2: with him when he settled down in mont Pierre, France,
- 43:56Speaker 2: which is crazy because that's France, Like, isn't that where
- 43:58Speaker 2: like Roman Plants? He went thought criminals went to friends
- 44:01Speaker 2: and they were Gucci. I don't know.
- 44:03Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 44:03Speaker 2: So he had decided to live a straight life for
- 44:05Speaker 2: a while after having reputably cash two point five million
- 44:08Speaker 2: dollars in bad checks over the years. When a former
- 44:11Speaker 2: girlfriend recognized his face on a wanted poster, she turned
- 44:15Speaker 2: him into authorities.
- 44:19Speaker 3: Oh, just like an ex girl.
- 44:20Speaker 2: See what happens when you right, if you just respect business.
- 44:26Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, why would she do that to him?
- 44:29Speaker 2: She did the right thing. You got to respect women.
- 44:31Speaker 2: I'm sure he was shady to her. He's like charismatic,
- 44:34Speaker 2: you know, he a ho. And anytime I hear charismatic,
- 44:37Speaker 2: I hear like Philanderer.
- 44:40Speaker 3: No, I'm charismatic sometimes.
- 44:42Speaker 2: Mmmm.
- 44:43Speaker 3: Well yeah, Well, to be fair is when I'm about
- 44:45Speaker 3: to cheat. But you know, to be ver it.
- 44:50Speaker 2: Is when I am about to cheat.
- 44:52Speaker 3: But but they don't know that. Judge me.
- 44:56Speaker 2: So yes, like I think that he probably did this
- 44:59Speaker 2: one dirty. He probably took some money out her purse.
- 45:04Speaker 3: Her purse, No, he was, he was class here that No,
- 45:07Speaker 3: he was he.
- 45:07Speaker 2: No, Frank feels like the kind of guy where you
- 45:09Speaker 2: wake up from y'all's wild night, you gotta check your wallet.
- 45:15Speaker 3: No, yeah, you're right, he'll he'll take twenty dollars. He
- 45:17Speaker 3: will go get lunch. You'll come back forget the change.
- 45:22Speaker 3: Lunch only cost two dollars because he scammed them out
- 45:24Speaker 3: the lunch and kept them hover.
- 45:26Speaker 2: Right exactly, Like that's the kind of day I we're
- 45:29Speaker 2: dealing with. So hey, you got to treat women right.
- 45:32Speaker 2: So Unfortunately, his girlfriend recognized him and she snitched. I'm
- 45:35Speaker 2: not mad, So this is how he got caught. He
- 45:39Speaker 2: served time in France, wow in harsh confines of per began,
- 45:48Speaker 2: where he became seriously ill. Sweden and the United States
- 45:54Speaker 2: also pulled up to get him for his crimes, during
- 45:58Speaker 2: which his father.
- 46:00Speaker 3: Hanks, was the lead detective.
- 46:01Speaker 2: That's right, so Frank was eventually granted parole after several
- 46:08Speaker 2: years from Petersburg, Virginia prison. He eventually found lecturing as
- 46:13Speaker 2: a work and white So basically he found lecturing work
- 46:17Speaker 2: as white collar crime specialist. So he's like, you know what,
- 46:21Speaker 2: I'm gonna just make my business my business. And he's like,
- 46:23Speaker 2: I'm gonna teach you guys how to be a doctor.
- 46:26Speaker 2: Know what a blue baby is? Rob a gas station first,
- 46:36Speaker 2: but you try to rob women? You date better than that?
- 46:40Speaker 3: Girlfriends and wives. Oh, you're gonna love this.
- 46:42Speaker 2: Next course, how to shake down your spouse. Slide one,
- 46:51Speaker 2: have a spout. Everyone's done that to.
- 46:56Speaker 3: Shake her ass down? Step three success, success.
- 47:01Speaker 2: All right, everyone, and we're clapping and we're clapping him.
- 47:08Speaker 2: The government told Frank that he had to educate them
- 47:10Speaker 2: about his methods in order to prevent other people from
- 47:13Speaker 2: defrauding authorities. Frank work with the FBI for more than
- 47:16Speaker 2: thirty years as one of the world's most foremost experts
- 47:19Speaker 2: in document fraud, check swindling, forgery, and embezzlement. He started
- 47:24Speaker 2: his own company, Abigail, Abnegail and Associates, which is which
- 47:29Speaker 2: educates others on how to avoid becoming being fraud victims.
- 47:33Speaker 2: And he has a podcast okay for ranking shout out
- 47:40Speaker 2: to the pod universe. The podcast is called The Perfect
- 47:44Speaker 2: Scam y'all and look, don't if y'all go listen to it.
- 47:48Speaker 2: Y'all still got to listen to me. Don't go over
- 47:49Speaker 2: there and don't come back, okay, because.
- 47:52Speaker 3: You've got to be a guest on his show. I
- 47:55Speaker 3: need to get on the on your show.
- 47:57Speaker 2: Gosh, we gotta tag Frank. Guys if you're out there,
- 48:00Speaker 2: I know you're out there. Frank abneguil and get me
- 48:03Speaker 2: on The Perfect Scamp. I love him or get.
- 48:06Speaker 3: Him on the show.
- 48:07Speaker 2: Oh oh, I just got.
- 48:09Speaker 3: Okay, okay, all right, you want me to give you some.
- 48:13Speaker 2: Time, I made it a little time. My windows also
- 48:19Speaker 2: open and my acs off because we're recording from home,
- 48:21Speaker 2: so I might also be there. Sure, I am very excited. Frank,
- 48:29Speaker 2: you're also a perfect scammer because you worked with the
- 48:31Speaker 2: FBI for thirty years educating them about fraud. How much
- 48:36Speaker 2: you know? Did it take thirty years to tell him?
- 48:38Speaker 2: Because I feel like you was probably spoon feeding the
- 48:41Speaker 2: FBI information. You had to have been. He was like,
- 48:45Speaker 2: I'm not gonna spoil all the tea up front. He
- 48:47Speaker 2: was like, you can get SIPs. And this lipped in
- 48:49Speaker 2: over thirty years because he could.
- 48:52Speaker 3: Have gave him that all. He could have gave him
- 48:53Speaker 3: the whole rundown in a day and then before you
- 48:56Speaker 3: know it, he asked back in jail, I don't need
- 48:58Speaker 3: you no more. He was like, right, intriguing, this is
- 49:01Speaker 3: only a mind. This is only a type of crime
- 49:03Speaker 3: that a mind like mine could figure out over the
- 49:05Speaker 3: next I.
- 49:06Speaker 2: Don't know, thirty years. He's a genius. So he also
- 49:12Speaker 2: forged a Harvard University law transcript and passed the Louisiana
- 49:17Speaker 2: Bar exam and got a job at Louisiana as a
- 49:19Speaker 2: Louisiana State attorney. Here's my thing. He passed the bar.
- 49:23Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean he passed the bar.
- 49:29Speaker 3: And didn't he didn't he uh, he had AIoT pilot's license,
- 49:34Speaker 3: so he knew how to actually fly a plane.
- 49:37Speaker 2: That's joke, because if something had happened on the plane
- 49:39Speaker 2: and they were like the pilots, they're incapacitated, can anybody
- 49:42Speaker 2: fly the plane?
- 49:43Speaker 3: Like?
- 49:43Speaker 2: At least he was in a fake uniform with real skills. Right,
- 49:47Speaker 2: this man's a genius.
- 49:48Speaker 3: Right? Wait, so he so he actually flew the planes, right,
- 49:51Speaker 3: He didn't just hang out on the planes.
- 49:54Speaker 2: No, he hung out on the planes. He did not
- 49:55Speaker 2: fly the planes.
- 49:56Speaker 3: Oh my lord, I thought he.
- 50:00Speaker 2: You know how pilots have to travel to get to
- 50:01Speaker 2: their next like, right, so they'll just hop on a
- 50:04Speaker 2: plane and you know, be sitting on the plane with
- 50:05Speaker 2: the rest of us schmucks. So that's what he did.
- 50:09Speaker 2: So wow. He told a flight attendent that he had
- 50:14Speaker 2: briefly dated that he was also a Harvard law school student,
- 50:17Speaker 2: and she introduced him to a lawyer friend. After making
- 50:19Speaker 2: a fake transfer from Harvard, he prepared himself for the
- 50:22Speaker 2: compulsory exam. So he failed twice, but then the third
- 50:27Speaker 2: time he passed.
- 50:28Speaker 3: Wow, memorize the questions and then.
- 50:35Speaker 2: Right, you're right, he scammed the test. He was like, oh,
- 50:38Speaker 2: now I know what these questions are, and now I
- 50:40Speaker 2: know the answers. Wow. So obviously, to wrap this up,
- 50:44Speaker 2: Steven Spielberg made a film about this called Catch Me
- 50:47Speaker 2: If You Can. If you guys want to watch it
- 50:49Speaker 2: for more details. You know Leonardo wait christophin Walking. Christopher
- 50:55Speaker 2: Walking got an Oscar nod for the role that he
- 50:58Speaker 2: played in it. Not Leonardo, where You're going this time?
- 51:03Speaker 3: That's not my Christopher Walking impression, but that's what he did.
- 51:06Speaker 2: Such a good Christopher Walking.
- 51:10Speaker 3: I'm one of the greatest Christopher Walking impersonal. I do
- 51:12Speaker 3: it on Hollywood Boulevard.
- 51:16Speaker 2: Next to Spider Man.
- 51:17Speaker 3: Hey, Spidey, where are you going?
- 51:24Speaker 2: It's fantastic.
- 51:28Speaker 3: Guys.
- 51:28Speaker 2: Oh no, Frank say his last name, because I can't please.
- 51:33Speaker 3: Jackson.
- 51:37Speaker 2: That's probably one of his last names. Ab noguil, Frank, abneguil,
- 51:40Speaker 2: shout out to a king. You know you came, you
- 51:44Speaker 2: saw you ropped, and I stand all right, guys, will
- 51:48Speaker 2: be back after one tiny break of non scam advertisements.
- 51:53Speaker 1: Rab.
- 51:57Speaker 2: Run all right, guys, we're back, and it's time for
- 52:00Speaker 2: the saddest portion of the show, which is where I
- 52:03Speaker 2: have to let Lamourn go. It's time for scammer of
- 52:06Speaker 2: the week. We just honor one honorary charlatan who's worthy
- 52:12Speaker 2: of our praise. You are an honorary charlatan, you are
- 52:18Speaker 2: worthy of But this week it's actually a woman Lamarne
- 52:25Speaker 2: I know you liked.
- 52:26Speaker 3: Of course, of course the country we're in.
- 52:33Speaker 2: So and she is a queen. Her name is Brittany Bridges,
- 52:39Speaker 2: which like the alliteration the flavor of her name BB
- 52:44Speaker 2: so bb and BB is accused of doing fake dentistry.
- 52:52Speaker 2: And this really struck a chord in my heart because
- 52:55Speaker 2: I've been seeing posts on Facebook, and which I only
- 52:59Speaker 2: keep Facebook to keep up with my problematic eyes high
- 53:01Speaker 2: school friends and relatives. I don't actually use Facebook, but
- 53:07Speaker 2: I kept on Facebook that were like, I do braces.
- 53:14Speaker 2: That's what I do. Braces so urgent, and I've always
- 53:28Speaker 2: been confused, like, what what do you mean you do braces,
- 53:32Speaker 2: because that's are you an orthodonist? I don't think you
- 53:35Speaker 2: could just do braids.
- 53:38Speaker 3: You can do hair exactly. I do braces. No, you don't.
- 53:48Speaker 2: We should not be getting bracest at a residential home.
- 53:51Speaker 2: We should not. You can't do in your living room.
- 53:56Speaker 3: So I do braces.
- 53:58Speaker 2: Brittany's been a before, but to date, there are no
- 54:02Speaker 2: current charges filed against her about these ladies complaints. Dentists
- 54:06Speaker 2: at Children's Hospital Uptown and Louisiana State University Dental School
- 54:10Speaker 2: are concerned with patients heading to their clinics. They said
- 54:13Speaker 2: they've noticed an uptick and patients coming in who sought
- 54:16Speaker 2: care from non licensed providers, it said. They said, once
- 54:21Speaker 2: you start moving teeth, it gets to the point where
- 54:23Speaker 2: you could cause long term disfigurement, and they're worried about
- 54:27Speaker 2: public safety. So this is a woman that basically they're like,
- 54:33Speaker 2: we put a red flag out on her, but she's
- 54:35Speaker 2: a queen who's not been caught. She's not going to jail.
- 54:39Speaker 2: There's no current charges. They said. Unfortunately, the state Board
- 54:43Speaker 2: can't do anything about this because she doesn't have a license.
- 54:46Speaker 2: So we are a regulatory agency that can sanction dentists
- 54:50Speaker 2: or hygienis, but when it's an unlicensed person performing dentistry,
- 54:54Speaker 2: we have no jurisdiction. All we can do is turn
- 54:57Speaker 2: it over to law enforcement.
- 55:00Speaker 3: Wow wait wait, wait where is she now?
- 55:03Speaker 2: She's still on Instagram. She has an Instagram account called Bossy.
- 55:09Speaker 3: Smiles Bossy Smiles, and.
- 55:13Speaker 2: They advertise braces, maintenance, veneers and other type of dental work.
- 55:19Speaker 3: Yo, certified dental assistant and teeth whitening technician. Giving you
- 55:24Speaker 3: a smile to match your attitude.
- 55:28Speaker 2: You know the I g girls Instagram teeth she's probably like.
- 55:32Speaker 2: And also we have a special going on this month.
- 55:35Speaker 2: And if you want to get ass shots with y'all dental.
- 55:42Speaker 3: And I can make your teeth removable too, in case
- 55:44Speaker 3: you need to. You know what I'm saying.
- 55:54Speaker 2: Where did you get your eyebrows lazered? Oh?
- 55:57Speaker 5: Girl?
- 55:57Speaker 2: I went to bossy smile. They my brows and my
- 56:02Speaker 2: teeth in two hours flat. Girl.
- 56:05Speaker 3: I think she do massage too. I'm gonna be looking
- 56:07Speaker 3: at this no all, I see his ass cheeks and smiles.
- 56:18Speaker 3: What are you doing?
- 56:20Speaker 2: I need you not to do a profession. You can't
- 56:22Speaker 2: do massage? Yo?
- 56:25Speaker 3: Where is food? Shirt at? Like money?
- 56:27Speaker 2: In here?
- 56:28Speaker 3: With no shirt on?
- 56:29Speaker 2: Bro? See, I told you they got specials they running?
- 56:32Speaker 2: This is crazy? Why don't got a shirt on? Is
- 56:34Speaker 2: he get his teeth done? I'm confused?
- 56:40Speaker 3: He getting his teeth white and with a happy ended?
- 56:47Speaker 3: Where is it?
- 56:48Speaker 2: Oh?
- 56:48Speaker 3: My god? People, Okay, I'm done.
- 56:51Speaker 2: Listen, But the cops haven't got to them, yet I
- 56:54Speaker 2: don't want them to. I don't want you to go
- 56:58Speaker 2: get y'all. If anybody's doing don't get your braces done.
- 57:02Speaker 2: That's not what's supposed to happen. Go to an orthodontist
- 57:05Speaker 2: if you can't afford that. There's so many affordable ways
- 57:08Speaker 2: to do it. In visaligne like or you know they're
- 57:11Speaker 2: selling in this alone on Instagram now, like, guys, we're
- 57:15Speaker 2: just good. I'm an.
- 57:21Speaker 3: Oh god, okay, all right, So I'm hoping. I'm hoping
- 57:26Speaker 3: she got her life together. And you know what if
- 57:31Speaker 3: what if the page was Bossy smiles with a Z,
- 57:34Speaker 3: I would ship myself.
- 57:39Speaker 2: Bossy smiles, Buffy smiles tiny. So, guys, I love you.
- 57:46Speaker 2: I want you to scam, but please please don't start
- 57:49Speaker 2: doing braces or anything that you're not qualified to do.
- 57:53Speaker 2: We're all qualified to scam. I do hard to heart. Yeah,
- 58:04Speaker 2: I don't go to dialysis no more because I do kidneys.
- 58:07Speaker 2: So you just come I'm doing I get your kidneysdeed. No, no,
- 58:17Speaker 2: but it's always guys. If you want to reach us,
- 58:20Speaker 2: scam gottes Pot at gmail dot com. Snitch on your
- 58:23Speaker 2: friends and family. Just make sure the scam is retired
- 58:25Speaker 2: because we don't want to fuck up your bag. If
- 58:27Speaker 2: you want to find me d i v A l
- 58:29Speaker 2: A c I d v A Lacy on all platforms
- 58:32Speaker 2: and if you want lamour and where do you want
- 58:35Speaker 2: to be found and what do you want people to find?
- 58:37Speaker 2: That's what we asked.
- 58:38Speaker 3: Find me on Instagram at lomore in l A m
- 58:41Speaker 3: O r n E. The Morning After Pill is out
- 58:44Speaker 3: right now, Desperados coming soon, Woke coming soon.
- 58:49Speaker 2: Yes, it's coming soon, all right, Congregation, stay scaram Godess