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Can Children's Books Heal Trauma? Understanding Adverse Childhood Experiences · Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast

• 3:27
  Jacqueline
• 3:27
  K.
• 3:27
  Boylan,
• 3:28
  A
• 3:29
  Broken
• 3:29
  Twig
• 3:30
  Can
• 3:30
  Spread.
• 3:31
  Thanks,
• 3:31
  Jacqueline,
• 3:32
  for
• 3:32
  appearing
• 3:32
  on
• 3:33
  the
• 3:33
  Adventures
• 3:33
  in
• 3:33
  the
• 3:34
  Heart
• 3:34
  of
• 3:34
  Children's
• 3:34
  Book
• 3:35
  Authors
• 3:35
  podcast.
• 3:36
  Jacqueline
• 3:37
  has
• 3:37
  written
• 3:38
  a
• 3:38
  children's
• 3:38
  book.
• 3:39
  It's
• 3:39
  called
• 3:40
  A
• 3:40
  Broken
• 3:40
  Twig
• 3:41
  Can
• 3:41
  Sprout.
• 3:42
  And
• 3:42
  I
• 3:42
  really
• 3:42
  look
• 3:43
  forward
• 3:43
  to
• 3:43
  our
• 3:43
  conversation.
• 3:45
  Jacqueline,
• 3:46
  before
• 3:46
  we
• 3:46
  jump
• 3:47
  into
• 3:47
  the
• 3:47
  details
• 3:47
  of
• 3:48
  your
• 3:48
  book,
• 3:48
  can
• 3:48
  you
• 3:48
  tell
• 3:49
  us
• 3:49
  what
• 3:50
  being
• 3:50
  a
• 3:50
  children's
• 3:51
  book
• 3:51
  author
• 3:51
  means
• 3:52
  to
• 3:52
  you?
• 3:53
  Well,
• 3:54
  I've
• 3:54
  always
• 3:54
  wanted
• 3:54
  to
• 3:55
  write
• 3:55
  a
• 3:55
  book
• 3:55
  since
• 3:55
  I
• 3:56
  was
• 3:56
  about
• 3:56
  14
• 3:56
  years
• 3:57
  old.
• 3:58
  And
• 3:59
  in
• 3:59
  my
• 3:59
  mind,
• 3:59
  I
• 3:59
  never
• 4:00
  thought
• 4:00
  I
• 4:00
  could
• 4:00
  accomplish
• 4:01
  it.
• 4:02
  I
• 4:02
  didn't
• 4:02
  think
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  I
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  had
• 4:02
  the
• 4:03
  tools,
• 4:04
  people,
• 4:04
  or
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  the
• 4:05
  resources.
• 4:06
  But
• 4:06
  now
• 4:06
  that
• 4:06
  I've
• 4:07
  accomplished
• 4:07
  this
• 4:07
  goal,
• 4:08
  it
• 4:08
  means
• 4:08
  so
• 4:08
  much
• 4:09
  to
• 4:09
  me,
• 4:09
  and
• 4:09
  then
• 4:09
  especially
• 4:11
  for
• 4:11
  children,
• 4:12
  because
• 4:14
  children
• 4:14
  are
• 4:14
  so
• 4:14
  impressionable,
• 4:16
  and
• 4:16
  especially
• 4:17
  with
• 4:17
  the
• 4:18
  book
• 4:18
  that
• 4:18
  I
• 4:18
  wrote
• 4:19
  that's
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  related
• 4:20
  to
• 4:20
  trauma,
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  I
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  hope
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  to
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  really
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  encourage
• 4:23
  kids
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  to
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  feel
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  good
• 4:24
  about
• 4:24
  themselves.
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  So
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  it
• 4:26
  means
• 4:26
  a
• 4:27
  lot
• 4:27
  to
• 4:27
  me.
• 4:29
  Terrific.
• 4:30
  And
• 4:31
  so
• 4:31
  tell
• 4:31
  us
• 4:31
  a
• 4:31
  little
• 4:31
  bit
• 4:32
  more
• 4:32
  about
• 4:33
  the
• 4:34
  inspiration
• 4:35
  behind
• 4:35
  your
• 4:36
  book.
• 4:37
  Okay.
• 4:38
  So
• 4:38
  in
• 4:38
  order
• 4:38
  to
• 4:38
  understand,
• 4:39
  I
• 4:39
  have
• 4:39
  to
• 4:39
  give
• 4:39
  you
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  a
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  little
• 4:40
  bit
• 4:40
  of
• 4:40
  my
• 4:40
  background.
• 4:41
  Is
• 4:41
  that
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  okay?
• 4:42
  Oh,
• 4:42
  absolutely.
• 4:43
  Please
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  do.
• 4:44
  I
• 4:45
  had
• 4:45
  a
• 4:45
  rough
• 4:45
  upbringing.
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  Both
• 4:46
  of
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  my
• 4:47
  parents
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  were
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  addicted
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  to
• 4:49
  substance
• 4:49
  abuse
• 4:50
  when
• 4:50
  I
• 4:50
  was
• 4:50
  born.
• 4:51
  And
• 4:52
  when
• 4:52
  I
• 4:52
  was
• 4:52
  an
• 4:53
  infant,
• 4:53
  my
• 4:53
  great
• 4:54
  grandmother
• 4:55
  essentially
• 4:56
  took
• 4:56
  me
• 4:56
  away
• 4:56
  from
• 4:56
  my
• 4:57
  mom
• 4:57
  because
• 4:57
  my
• 4:57
  mom
• 4:58
  was
• 4:58
  homeless.
• 4:59
  And
• 5:00
  she
• 5:00
  saw
• 5:00
  that,
• 5:01
  she
• 5:01
  had
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  me
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  in
• 5:01
  the
• 5:02
  street
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  and
• 5:02
  she
• 5:02
  said,
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  I'm
• 5:04
  the
• 5:04
  baby
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  away.
• 5:05
  It
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  was
• 5:06
  my
• 5:06
  grandma's
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  hope
• 5:07
  that
• 5:07
  taking
• 5:08
  me
• 5:08
  that
• 5:09
  my
• 5:09
  mom
• 5:09
  could
• 5:09
  get
• 5:09
  herself
• 5:10
  together
• 5:10
  and
• 5:10
  then
• 5:10
  come
• 5:11
  back.
• 5:12
  Fortunately,
• 5:13
  my
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  mom's
• 5:13
  life
• 5:13
  just
• 5:14
  spiraled.
• 5:15
  And
• 5:15
  then
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  she
• 5:16
  subsequently
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  died
• 5:17
  when
• 5:17
  I
• 5:17
  was
• 5:17
  in
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  second
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  grade,
• 5:18
  when
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  I
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  was
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  seven.
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  And
• 5:20
  then
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  the
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  next
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  year,
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  in
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  third
• 5:22
  grade,
• 5:22
  my
• 5:23
  father
• 5:23
  passed
• 5:23
  away.
• 5:24
  So
• 5:25
  I
• 5:25
  lived
• 5:25
  with
• 5:25
  my
• 5:25
  great
• 5:26
  grandmother
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  until
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  she
• 5:27
  passed
• 5:27
  away
• 5:28
  in
• 5:28
  2021.
• 5:30
  She
• 5:30
  was
• 5:30
  103
• 5:31
  years
• 5:31
  old
• 5:31
  when
• 5:31
  she
• 5:31
  passed
• 5:32
  away.
• 5:32
  Unbelievable.
• 5:34
  Yeah,
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  she
• 5:35
  was
• 5:35
  amazing.
• 5:36
  She
• 5:36
  was
• 5:37
  my
• 5:37
  rock.
• 5:38
  All
• 5:38
  this
• 5:39
  crazy
• 5:39
  stuff
• 5:39
  happened
• 5:40
  in
• 5:40
  childhood.
• 5:41
  Emotionally,
• 5:42
  she
• 5:42
  kept
• 5:42
  me
• 5:42
  together.
• 5:43
  But
• 5:44
  then
• 5:44
  what
• 5:44
  happened
• 5:44
  was
• 5:45
  when
• 5:45
  she
• 5:45
  passed
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  away,
• 5:46
  the
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  only
• 5:47
  way
• 5:47
  I
• 5:47
  kind
• 5:47
  of
• 5:48
  explain
• 5:48
  it,
• 5:48
  it's
• 5:48
  like
• 5:48
  my
• 5:49
  mind
• 5:49
  exploded.
• 5:50
  Like,
• 5:50
  all
• 5:50
  this
• 5:50
  trauma
• 5:51
  things
• 5:51
  that
• 5:51
  happened
• 5:52
  in
• 5:52
  childhood,
• 5:52
  it
• 5:53
  overwhelmed
• 5:53
  me,
• 5:54
  and
• 5:55
  the
• 5:55
  grief
• 5:55
  was
• 5:55
  unbearable.
• 5:57
  I
• 5:57
  ended
• 5:57
  up
• 5:57
  in
• 5:58
  emergency
• 5:58
  room,
• 5:59
  and
• 5:59
  they
• 5:59
  referred
• 6:00
  me
• 6:00
  to
• 6:00
  some
• 6:00
  doctors
• 6:01
  who
• 6:02
  diagnosed
• 6:02
  me
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  with
• 6:03
  what
• 6:03
  is
• 6:03
  called
• 6:03
  complicated
• 6:04
  grief.
• 6:05
  Okay.
• 6:05
  When
• 6:05
  the
• 6:06
  person
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  has
• 6:06
  lost
• 6:07
  several
• 6:08
  family
• 6:09
  members
• 6:09
  over
• 6:09
  a
• 6:10
  period
• 6:10
  of
• 6:10
  time
• 6:10
  in
• 6:10
  their
• 6:11
  life.
• 6:12
  The
• 6:12
  doctor,
• 6:13
  to
• 6:13
  answer
• 6:13
  your
• 6:13
  question,
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  she
• 6:15
  would
• 6:15
  often
• 6:16
  have
• 6:16
  me
• 6:16
  write
• 6:17
  to
• 6:18
  little
• 6:18
  Jack.
• 6:19
  So
• 6:19
  she
• 6:20
  would
• 6:20
  give
• 6:20
  me
• 6:20
  these
• 6:20
  exercises,
• 6:21
  and
• 6:21
  she
• 6:21
  would
• 6:21
  have
• 6:21
  me
• 6:22
  write
• 6:22
  to
• 6:22
  my
• 6:22
  younger
• 6:23
  self.
• 6:24
  And
• 6:24
  in
• 6:24
  the
• 6:25
  process
• 6:25
  of
• 6:25
  writing,
• 6:26
  a
• 6:27
  broken
• 6:27
  twin
• 6:28
  Sprout
• 6:28
  was
• 6:28
  born.
• 6:29
  So
• 6:30
  this
• 6:30
  book
• 6:31
  initially
• 6:31
  Just
• 6:31
  started
• 6:32
  out
• 6:32
  as
• 6:32
  a
• 6:32
  letter
• 6:33
  that
• 6:33
  I
• 6:33
  wrote
• 6:33
  to
• 6:33
  myself
• 6:34
  as
• 6:35
  a
• 6:35
  child
• 6:35
  to
• 6:36
  let
• 6:36
  me
• 6:36
  know
• 6:36
  that
• 6:37
  the
• 6:37
  things
• 6:38
  that
• 6:38
  happened,
• 6:38
  the
• 6:38
  losses
• 6:39
  that
• 6:39
  I
• 6:39
  experienced
• 6:40
  was
• 6:40
  not
• 6:40
  my
• 6:40
  fault.
• 6:42
  Additionally
• 6:42
  to
• 6:42
  the
• 6:43
  losses,
• 6:44
  I
• 6:44
  also
• 6:44
  had
• 6:45
  abusive
• 6:45
  family
• 6:46
  members.
• 6:48
  Actually
• 6:48
  was
• 6:48
  what
• 6:49
  was
• 6:49
  the
• 6:49
  hardest
• 6:50
  to
• 6:50
  cope
• 6:51
  with,
• 6:51
  to
• 6:52
  deal
• 6:52
  with.
• 6:52
  Because
• 6:52
  she's
• 6:53
  still
• 6:53
  living,
• 6:54
  right?
• 6:54
  Yeah,
• 6:55
  she's
• 6:55
  still
• 6:55
  living.
• 6:55
  And
• 6:56
  that
• 6:56
  was
• 6:56
  the
• 6:56
  hardest
• 6:57
  thing
• 6:57
  to
• 6:57
  cope
• 6:57
  with.
• 6:58
  My
• 6:58
  mind
• 6:58
  couldn't
• 6:58
  pretend
• 7:00
  because
• 7:00
  my
• 7:00
  great
• 7:01
  grandmother
• 7:01
  was
• 7:01
  so
• 7:02
  loving
• 7:03
  and
• 7:03
  she
• 7:03
  was
• 7:04
  exactly
• 7:04
  the
• 7:04
  opposite.
• 7:05
  And
• 7:05
  so
• 7:05
  when
• 7:05
  my
• 7:06
  great
• 7:06
  grandmother
• 7:06
  passed,
• 7:07
  I
• 7:08
  just
• 7:08
  didn't
• 7:08
  know
• 7:08
  how
• 7:08
  to
• 7:09
  deal
• 7:09
  with
• 7:09
  her
• 7:09
  because
• 7:09
  my
• 7:09
  grandmother
• 7:10
  was
• 7:10
  always
• 7:10
  a
• 7:10
  shield.
• 7:11
  Shield.
• 7:13
  And
• 7:14
  so
• 7:14
  I
• 7:14
  broke
• 7:15
  into
• 7:15
  a
• 7:15
  kinspro
• 7:16
  was
• 7:16
  born
• 7:16
  because
• 7:17
  I
• 7:17
  was
• 7:17
  trying
• 7:17
  to
• 7:17
  convince
• 7:18
  little
• 7:18
  Jackie,
• 7:19
  it's
• 7:19
  not
• 7:20
  your
• 7:20
  fault.
• 7:20
  These
• 7:20
  things
• 7:20
  that
• 7:21
  happen
• 7:21
  to
• 7:21
  you.
• 7:22
  It's
• 7:22
  fantastic
• 7:23
  that
• 7:23
  you
• 7:24
  got
• 7:25
  that
• 7:25
  advice.
• 7:26
  And
• 7:26
  this
• 7:26
  was
• 7:27
  in
• 7:27
  2021.
• 7:29
  She
• 7:29
  passed
• 7:29
  away
• 7:30
  in
• 7:30
  2021.
• 7:32
  I
• 7:32
  did
• 7:32
  pretty
• 7:33
  okay
• 7:33
  for
• 7:34
  about
• 7:34
  a
• 7:34
  year.
• 7:34
  But
• 7:35
  then
• 7:35
  exactly
• 7:36
  on
• 7:36
  her
• 7:36
  one
• 7:36
  year
• 7:36
  anniversary,
• 7:37
  like,
• 7:38
  the
• 7:38
  grief,
• 7:39
  like
• 7:39
  just
• 7:39
  became
• 7:40
  so
• 7:40
  overwhelming.
• 7:41
  And
• 7:41
  then
• 7:41
  I
• 7:41
  ended
• 7:41
  up.
• 7:42
  And
• 7:43
  the
• 7:43
  doctors
• 7:44
  and
• 7:44
  the
• 7:44
  nurses
• 7:44
  were
• 7:45
  so
• 7:45
  amazing.
• 7:46
  I
• 7:46
  remember
• 7:46
  the
• 7:47
  doctor
• 7:47
  hugged
• 7:47
  me
• 7:48
  that
• 7:48
  I
• 7:48
  lost
• 7:49
  my
• 7:49
  grandma
• 7:49
  too.
• 7:49
  I
• 7:50
  was
• 7:50
  raised
• 7:50
  by
• 7:50
  my
• 7:50
  grandma
• 7:50
  too.
• 7:51
  I
• 7:51
  just
• 7:51
  had
• 7:52
  amazing
• 7:52
  support.
• 7:53
  And
• 7:53
  you
• 7:54
  were
• 7:54
  already
• 7:54
  nursing
• 7:55
  by
• 7:55
  this
• 7:55
  time.
• 7:56
  You
• 7:56
  have
• 7:56
  a
• 7:56
  nursing
• 7:56
  background?
• 7:57
  Yes,
• 7:57
  I'm
• 7:58
  a
• 7:58
  registered
• 7:58
  nurse.
• 7:58
  I
• 7:58
  actually
• 7:59
  went
• 7:59
  to
• 7:59
  the
• 7:59
  emergency
• 8:00
  room
• 8:00
  at
• 8:00
  the
• 8:00
  hospital
• 8:00
  that
• 8:01
  I
• 8:01
  work
• 8:01
  in.
• 8:02
  And
• 8:02
  they
• 8:02
  were.
• 8:03
  They
• 8:03
  were
• 8:03
  just
• 8:03
  so
• 8:03
  supportive,
• 8:04
  understanding
• 8:05
  the
• 8:05
  background
• 8:05
  that
• 8:06
  would
• 8:06
  happen
• 8:07
  and
• 8:07
  put
• 8:07
  me
• 8:07
  with
• 8:07
  an
• 8:08
  awesome
• 8:08
  psychologist
• 8:09
  who
• 8:09
  had
• 8:10
  a
• 8:10
  background
• 8:10
  in
• 8:10
  dealing
• 8:11
  with
• 8:11
  these
• 8:11
  childhood,
• 8:12
  what
• 8:13
  they
• 8:13
  call
• 8:13
  adverse
• 8:14
  childhood
• 8:14
  experiences.
• 8:16
  It's
• 8:16
  nice
• 8:17
  to
• 8:17
  have
• 8:17
  that
• 8:17
  support
• 8:18
  for
• 8:18
  sure.
• 8:19
  When
• 8:19
  I
• 8:20
  think,
• 8:20
  especially
• 8:20
  on
• 8:20
  my
• 8:21
  mom's
• 8:21
  side,
• 8:22
  my
• 8:22
  grandmother,
• 8:23
  on
• 8:23
  my
• 8:23
  mom's
• 8:24
  side,
• 8:24
  she
• 8:25
  was
• 8:25
  a
• 8:25
  pretty
• 8:26
  incredible
• 8:26
  woman.
• 8:27
  Out
• 8:27
  of
• 8:27
  my
• 8:27
  four
• 8:28
  grandparents,
• 8:29
  she
• 8:30
  had
• 8:30
  the
• 8:30
  most
• 8:30
  influence
• 8:31
  on
• 8:31
  me.
• 8:32
  And
• 8:32
  she
• 8:33
  was
• 8:33
  ahead
• 8:33
  of
• 8:34
  her
• 8:34
  time,
• 8:34
  very
• 8:35
  strong
• 8:35
  woman,
• 8:36
  very
• 8:36
  outdoorsy,
• 8:38
  and
• 8:39
  definitely
• 8:39
  had
• 8:39
  a
• 8:40
  lot
• 8:40
  of
• 8:40
  influence.
• 8:41
  It's
• 8:41
  fantastic
• 8:42
  when
• 8:42
  you
• 8:43
  hear
• 8:43
  stories
• 8:43
  about
• 8:44
  other
• 8:44
  people
• 8:44
  who
• 8:45
  have
• 8:45
  had
• 8:46
  grandparents
• 8:46
  or
• 8:47
  great
• 8:47
  grandparents
• 8:48
  who
• 8:48
  have
• 8:48
  had
• 8:49
  a
• 8:49
  positive
• 8:50
  impact
• 8:50
  on
• 8:50
  your
• 8:51
  life,
• 8:51
  it's
• 8:52
  neat.
• 8:52
  And
• 8:52
  then
• 8:52
  to
• 8:53
  take
• 8:53
  that
• 8:53
  inspiration
• 8:54
  and
• 8:54
  turn
• 8:55
  it
• 8:55
  into
• 8:55
  a
• 8:55
  children's
• 8:56
  book.
• 8:57
  Wow.
• 8:57
  Grandmas
• 8:58
  are
• 8:58
  amazing.
• 8:58
  I'm
• 8:59
  actually
• 8:59
  planning
• 8:59
  to
• 8:59
  write
• 9:00
  another
• 9:00
  book
• 9:01
  about
• 9:02
  grandmas.
• 9:03
  Oh,
• 9:03
  no,
• 9:04
  they're
• 9:04
  amazing.
• 9:05
  They
• 9:06
  hold
• 9:06
  it
• 9:06
  down.
• 9:07
  They
• 9:07
  hold
• 9:07
  it
• 9:07
  down.
• 9:08
  Yeah.
• 9:08
  No,
• 9:08
  there's
• 9:09
  no
• 9:09
  doubt
• 9:09
  in
• 9:09
  my
• 9:09
  mind.
• 9:10
  And.
• 9:11
  And
• 9:11
  even
• 9:11
  my
• 9:11
  mom's
• 9:12
  influence
• 9:13
  on
• 9:13
  my
• 9:13
  grandchildren
• 9:15
  was
• 9:15
  incredible.
• 9:15
  And
• 9:16
  also
• 9:16
  her
• 9:17
  influence
• 9:17
  on
• 9:18
  my
• 9:18
  daughter.
• 9:19
  I
• 9:19
  can
• 9:20
  see
• 9:20
  my
• 9:21
  mom
• 9:21
  and
• 9:21
  my
• 9:22
  daughter
• 9:22
  every
• 9:22
  day,
• 9:23
  how
• 9:23
  she
• 9:23
  approaches
• 9:24
  life.
• 9:24
  So
• 9:25
  that's
• 9:25
  pretty
• 9:25
  cool
• 9:27
  when
• 9:27
  you
• 9:27
  think
• 9:28
  of
• 9:28
  your
• 9:28
  children's
• 9:29
  book
• 9:30
  that
• 9:30
  you
• 9:31
  wrote.
• 9:32
  I'm
• 9:32
  curious
• 9:33
  about
• 9:33
  the
• 9:34
  business
• 9:34
  side
• 9:34
  of
• 9:35
  it.
• 9:35
  Have
• 9:35
  you
• 9:35
  thought
• 9:35
  about
• 9:36
  the
• 9:37
  business
• 9:37
  side
• 9:37
  of
• 9:38
  your
• 9:38
  book
• 9:38
  business?
• 9:39
  That's
• 9:39
  an
• 9:39
  interesting
• 9:40
  question.
• 9:40
  When
• 9:40
  I
• 9:41
  started
• 9:41
  writing
• 9:41
  this
• 9:41
  book,
• 9:42
  I
• 9:42
  told
• 9:42
  my
• 9:43
  best
• 9:43
  friend
• 9:44
  and
• 9:44
  she
• 9:45
  got
• 9:45
  inspired
• 9:46
  and
• 9:46
  then
• 9:46
  she
• 9:47
  started
• 9:47
  writing
• 9:47
  a
• 9:47
  book.
• 9:48
  And
• 9:48
  so
• 9:48
  what
• 9:48
  happened
• 9:49
  was
• 9:49
  in
• 9:49
  the
• 9:49
  process
• 9:50
  of
• 9:50
  her
• 9:50
  writing
• 9:50
  a
• 9:51
  book,
• 9:51
  she
• 9:52
  did
• 9:52
  a
• 9:52
  lot
• 9:52
  of
• 9:52
  research.
• 9:54
  And
• 9:54
  then
• 9:54
  she
• 9:54
  actually
• 9:54
  ended
• 9:55
  up
• 9:55
  teaching
• 9:55
  me
• 9:56
  a
• 9:56
  lot
• 9:56
  about
• 9:56
  how
• 9:57
  to
• 9:57
  get
• 9:57
  into
• 9:57
  a
• 9:57
  business.
• 9:58
  I
• 9:58
  just
• 9:59
  recently
• 10:00
  started
• 10:00
  a
• 10:00
  LLC
• 10:02
  and
• 10:02
  developed
• 10:02
  my
• 10:03
  own
• 10:03
  publishing
• 10:04
  imprint.
• 10:05
  Cause
• 10:05
  that's
• 10:05
  something.
• 10:05
  I
• 10:05
  also
• 10:06
  didn't
• 10:06
  know
• 10:06
  that
• 10:07
  when
• 10:07
  you
• 10:07
  become
• 10:08
  an
• 10:08
  indie
• 10:08
  book
• 10:08
  writer
• 10:09
  now
• 10:09
  you
• 10:09
  make
• 10:10
  your
• 10:10
  own
• 10:10
  books,
• 10:10
  you
• 10:10
  can.
• 10:11
  A
• 10:12
  publishing
• 10:12
  name.
• 10:13
  Yes.
• 10:13
  So
• 10:14
  publishing
• 10:14
  name
• 10:15
  is
• 10:15
  the
• 10:15
  Resiliency
• 10:16
  Publishing
• 10:16
  House.
• 10:17
  Oh,
• 10:18
  cool.
• 10:18
  Yeah.
• 10:19
  So
• 10:19
  all
• 10:19
  the
• 10:19
  books
• 10:20
  that
• 10:20
  I'm
• 10:20
  going
• 10:20
  to
• 10:20
  write
• 10:20
  now
• 10:20
  are
• 10:21
  going
• 10:21
  to
• 10:21
  have
• 10:21
  that
• 10:23
  label
• 10:23
  on
• 10:23
  it.
• 10:24
  It's
• 10:24
  been
• 10:24
  an
• 10:25
  exciting
• 10:25
  journey.
• 10:26
  It
• 10:26
  blew
• 10:26
  up
• 10:27
  into
• 10:27
  something
• 10:27
  beautiful
• 10:29
  that
• 10:29
  I
• 10:29
  didn't
• 10:29
  even
• 10:29
  imagine.
• 10:30
  That
• 10:30
  just
• 10:30
  started
• 10:31
  as
• 10:31
  a
• 10:31
  therapy.
• 10:32
  When
• 10:32
  you
• 10:33
  talk
• 10:33
  about
• 10:33
  building
• 10:34
  out
• 10:34
  your
• 10:34
  business,
• 10:35
  you
• 10:35
  talked
• 10:35
  about
• 10:37
  adverse
• 10:37
  childhood
• 10:38
  experiences.
• 10:39
  Is
• 10:39
  that
• 10:39
  what
• 10:40
  you're
• 10:40
  focusing
• 10:40
  your
• 10:41
  business
• 10:42
  around?
• 10:43
  Exactly.
• 10:44
  I
• 10:44
  never
• 10:44
  heard
• 10:45
  of
• 10:45
  this
• 10:45
  term
• 10:46
  actually,
• 10:47
  until
• 10:47
  all
• 10:47
  this
• 10:47
  stuff
• 10:48
  happened
• 10:48
  to
• 10:48
  me.
• 10:49
  And
• 10:49
  then
• 10:49
  I
• 10:50
  had
• 10:50
  to
• 10:50
  meet
• 10:50
  with
• 10:50
  the
• 10:50
  psychologist
• 10:52
  and
• 10:53
  adverse
• 10:53
  childhood
• 10:54
  experiences.
• 10:54
  There's
• 10:55
  so
• 10:55
  much
• 10:55
  medical
• 10:55
  literature
• 10:56
  on
• 10:56
  it
• 10:57
  about
• 10:58
  things
• 10:58
  that
• 10:58
  happen
• 10:58
  in
• 10:59
  childhood,
• 10:59
  traumatic
• 10:59
  things,
• 11:00
  and
• 11:00
  how
• 11:01
  it
• 11:01
  affects
• 11:01
  the
• 11:01
  tradition
• 11:02
  of
• 11:02
  your
• 11:02
  life.
• 11:03
  They
• 11:04
  have
• 11:04
  also
• 11:05
  in
• 11:05
  this
• 11:05
  literature
• 11:06
  what's
• 11:06
  called
• 11:06
  protective
• 11:07
  factors.
• 11:08
  So
• 11:08
  protective
• 11:09
  factor,
• 11:10
  for
• 11:10
  example,
• 11:11
  in
• 11:11
  my
• 11:11
  life
• 11:11
  with
• 11:11
  my
• 11:11
  great
• 11:12
  grandmother
• 11:13
  who
• 11:13
  shielded
• 11:14
  me
• 11:14
  from
• 11:14
  all
• 11:15
  this
• 11:15
  stuff,
• 11:15
  having
• 11:15
  a
• 11:15
  major
• 11:16
  impact
• 11:16
  on
• 11:17
  me.
• 11:17
  But
• 11:18
  then
• 11:18
  when
• 11:18
  she
• 11:18
  passed
• 11:18
  away,
• 11:19
  it's
• 11:19
  like
• 11:19
  I
• 11:19
  got
• 11:20
  the
• 11:20
  full
• 11:21
  blunt
• 11:21
  of
• 11:21
  everything.
• 11:22
  And
• 11:22
  so
• 11:23
  now,
• 11:23
  because
• 11:23
  I
• 11:24
  understand
• 11:24
  this
• 11:25
  also,
• 11:25
  I
• 11:26
  started
• 11:26
  grad
• 11:26
  school
• 11:26
  last
• 11:29
  and
• 11:29
  we
• 11:30
  had
• 11:30
  opportunity
• 11:31
  to
• 11:31
  write
• 11:31
  a
• 11:32
  research
• 11:32
  paper.
• 11:32
  So
• 11:32
  I
• 11:32
  chose
• 11:33
  this
• 11:33
  as
• 11:33
  my
• 11:33
  topic.
• 11:34
  And
• 11:35
  now
• 11:35
  that
• 11:35
  I
• 11:35
  have
• 11:35
  a
• 11:35
  full
• 11:36
  medical
• 11:36
  understanding
• 11:37
  of
• 11:37
  this,
• 11:38
  it's
• 11:38
  so
• 11:38
  important
• 11:39
  to
• 11:39
  me
• 11:39
  to
• 11:39
  almost
• 11:40
  protect
• 11:40
  other
• 11:40
  children
• 11:42
  who
• 11:42
  don't
• 11:42
  have
• 11:42
  that
• 11:43
  protection.
• 11:43
  It's
• 11:44
  become
• 11:44
  my
• 11:44
  heart's
• 11:45
  work
• 11:46
  because
• 11:46
  when
• 11:47
  I
• 11:47
  was
• 11:47
  little,
• 11:48
  I
• 11:48
  was
• 11:48
  a
• 11:48
  very
• 11:49
  liable
• 11:49
  child.
• 11:49
  I
• 11:50
  cried
• 11:50
  in
• 11:50
  class
• 11:51
  and
• 11:52
  when
• 11:52
  my
• 11:52
  mom
• 11:53
  died,
• 11:53
  I
• 11:53
  cried
• 11:53
  a
• 11:53
  lot.
• 11:54
  And
• 11:54
  the
• 11:54
  teacher
• 11:55
  wrote
• 11:55
  a
• 11:56
  note
• 11:56
  home.
• 11:56
  Something's
• 11:57
  wrong
• 11:57
  with
• 11:57
  Jacqueline.
• 11:58
  She
• 11:58
  cries
• 11:58
  a
• 11:58
  lot,
• 11:59
  but
• 11:59
  she
• 11:59
  didn't
• 11:59
  know.
• 12:00
  It's
• 12:00
  like
• 12:00
  she
• 12:01
  knew
• 12:01
  something
• 12:01
  was
• 12:01
  wrong,
• 12:01
  but
• 12:01
  she
• 12:01
  didn't
• 12:02
  know
• 12:02
  how
• 12:02
  to
• 12:02
  help
• 12:02
  me.
• 12:03
  Now
• 12:03
  it's
• 12:03
  my
• 12:04
  goal
• 12:04
  because
• 12:05
  now
• 12:05
  that
• 12:05
  I
• 12:05
  have
• 12:06
  the
• 12:06
  personal
• 12:06
  lived
• 12:07
  experience
• 12:07
  would
• 12:08
  help
• 12:08
  children.
• 12:09
  I
• 12:10
  love
• 12:10
  it.
• 12:10
  I'm
• 12:10
  getting
• 12:11
  close
• 12:11
  to
• 12:11
  having
• 12:12
  interviewed
• 12:12
  over
• 12:12
  a
• 12:13
  hundred
• 12:13
  children's
• 12:13
  book
• 12:14
  authors,
• 12:14
  and
• 12:15
  you're
• 12:15
  the
• 12:15
  first
• 12:15
  one
• 12:16
  that's
• 12:17
  brought
• 12:17
  this
• 12:18
  topic
• 12:18
  to
• 12:18
  the
• 12:19
  forefront.
• 12:19
  And
• 12:20
  I
• 12:20
  really
• 12:20
  believe
• 12:20
  it's
• 12:21
  very
• 12:21
  important
• 12:23
  because
• 12:23
  we
• 12:23
  see
• 12:23
  it
• 12:24
  going
• 12:24
  on
• 12:24
  all
• 12:25
  around
• 12:25
  us,
• 12:25
  but
• 12:27
  people
• 12:27
  generally
• 12:28
  don't
• 12:28
  want
• 12:28
  to
• 12:28
  talk
• 12:29
  about
• 12:29
  it.
• 12:30
  And
• 12:30
  even
• 12:31
  the
• 12:31
  people
• 12:31
  that
• 12:31
  are
• 12:32
  affected
• 12:32
  don't
• 12:32
  want
• 12:33
  to
• 12:33
  talk
• 12:33
  about
• 12:33
  it.
• 12:34
  And
• 12:34
  it's
• 12:34
  unfortunate
• 12:35
  for
• 12:36
  you
• 12:36
  to
• 12:36
  write
• 12:36
  a
• 12:36
  children's
• 12:37
  book
• 12:38
  to
• 12:38
  deal
• 12:38
  with
• 12:39
  a
• 12:39
  tough
• 12:39
  topic.
• 12:40
  And
• 12:41
  it's
• 12:41
  a
• 12:41
  fun
• 12:41
  read.
• 12:42
  So
• 12:42
  just
• 12:43
  so
• 12:43
  everybody
• 12:43
  understands
• 12:44
  that
• 12:45
  there's
• 12:45
  lots
• 12:45
  of
• 12:46
  lessons.
• 12:46
  It's
• 12:47
  a
• 12:47
  positive
• 12:48
  experience
• 12:48
  reading
• 12:49
  your
• 12:49
  book.
• 12:50
  But
• 12:50
  it's
• 12:50
  nice
• 12:50
  that
• 12:50
  you
• 12:51
  brought
• 12:51
  it
• 12:51
  to
• 12:51
  the
• 12:51
  forefront.
• 12:52
  Thank
• 12:53
  you
• 12:53
  for
• 12:53
  sharing
• 12:53
  that.
• 12:55
  Thank
• 12:55
  you
• 12:55
  so
• 12:55
  much.
• 12:56
  I'm
• 12:56
  very
• 12:56
  excited.
• 12:57
  I'm
• 12:57
  working
• 12:57
  on
• 12:57
  my
• 12:57
  second
• 12:58
  book
• 12:58
  right
• 12:58
  now,
• 12:59
  which
• 13:00
  is
• 13:00
  about
• 13:00
  substance
• 13:01
  abuse
• 13:01
  because
• 13:01
  both
• 13:02
  my
• 13:02
  mom
• 13:03
  was
• 13:03
  addicted
• 13:03
  to
• 13:03
  crack
• 13:04
  cocaine.
• 13:05
  So
• 13:05
  I'm
• 13:05
  writing
• 13:06
  about
• 13:06
  that
• 13:06
  now.
• 13:07
  From
• 13:07
  a
• 13:07
  childhood's
• 13:08
  eyes
• 13:09
  or
• 13:10
  a
• 13:10
  child's
• 13:10
  eyes?
• 13:11
  Yes.
• 13:11
  I'm
• 13:12
  sharing
• 13:12
  my
• 13:12
  experience
• 13:13
  again.
• 13:13
  And
• 13:14
  if
• 13:14
  all
• 13:14
  of
• 13:14
  this
• 13:14
  had
• 13:14
  been
• 13:15
  so
• 13:16
  therapeutic.
• 13:17
  And
• 13:17
  so
• 13:17
  I'm
• 13:18
  just
• 13:18
  really
• 13:18
  enjoying
• 13:18
  the
• 13:18
  process.
• 13:19
  Terrific.
• 13:20
  You've
• 13:20
  developed
• 13:21
  a
• 13:21
  curriculum
• 13:22
  or
• 13:22
  developing
• 13:23
  a
• 13:23
  curriculum
• 13:23
  for
• 13:23
  your
• 13:24
  first
• 13:24
  book
• 13:25
  with
• 13:25
  the
• 13:25
  adverse
• 13:26
  childhood
• 13:26
  experiences?
• 13:28
  Yes,
• 13:29
  I
• 13:29
  actually
• 13:30
  started
• 13:30
  a
• 13:30
  nonprofit
• 13:32
  organization
• 13:32
  which
• 13:33
  just
• 13:33
  got
• 13:33
  approved
• 13:35
  last
• 13:35
  week.
• 13:36
  Okay.
• 13:37
  Yeah.
• 13:37
  So
• 13:37
  it's
• 13:38
  an
• 13:38
  official
• 13:38
  5013C.
• 13:40
  So
• 13:41
  the
• 13:41
  organization
• 13:42
  is
• 13:42
  called
• 13:42
  Help
• 13:42
  Me
• 13:43
  Sprout.
• 13:44
  What
• 13:44
  I
• 13:44
  decided
• 13:45
  to
• 13:45
  do
• 13:46
  was
• 13:46
  now
• 13:47
  make
• 13:47
  a
• 13:47
  curriculum
• 13:48
  for
• 13:48
  adults
• 13:49
  to
• 13:49
  help
• 13:49
  them
• 13:50
  understand
• 13:51
  how
• 13:52
  do
• 13:52
  I
• 13:52
  help
• 13:52
  a
• 13:52
  child
• 13:52
  who
• 13:53
  now
• 13:53
  is
• 13:53
  traumatized.
• 13:54
  So
• 13:55
  I
• 13:55
  was
• 13:55
  up
• 13:55
  last
• 13:56
  night,
• 13:56
  like,
• 13:57
  working
• 13:57
  on
• 13:58
  the
• 13:58
  book.
• 13:58
  Like,
• 13:58
  sometimes
• 13:58
  I
• 13:59
  can't
• 13:59
  even
• 13:59
  sleep
• 13:59
  because
• 13:59
  I'm
• 13:59
  just
• 14:00
  so
• 14:00
  excited
• 14:01
  about
• 14:01
  that
• 14:02
  work.
• 14:02
  So
• 14:02
  I
• 14:02
  was
• 14:02
  up
• 14:02
  at
• 14:03
  5
• 14:03
  o'
• 14:03
  clock
• 14:03
  in
• 14:03
  the
• 14:03
  morning
• 14:04
  getting
• 14:05
  all
• 14:05
  my
• 14:05
  thoughts.
• 14:06
  Cause
• 14:06
  sometimes
• 14:07
  when
• 14:07
  those
• 14:07
  thoughts
• 14:07
  come,
• 14:07
  we
• 14:07
  just
• 14:08
  directly.
• 14:08
  Like,
• 14:08
  when
• 14:09
  it
• 14:09
  comes.
• 14:09
  Are
• 14:09
  you
• 14:10
  developing
• 14:10
  a
• 14:10
  supporting
• 14:11
  workbook?
• 14:12
  Yes,
• 14:13
  I'm
• 14:14
  developing
• 14:14
  a
• 14:14
  supporting
• 14:15
  workbook
• 14:15
  and
• 14:15
  trying
• 14:15
  to
• 14:16
  develop
• 14:16
  a
• 14:16
  clinical
• 14:16
  tool
• 14:17
  to
• 14:18
  help
• 14:19
  educators
• 14:19
  also
• 14:20
  to
• 14:20
  be
• 14:20
  able
• 14:20
  to
• 14:21
  know,
• 14:21
  like
• 14:21
  I
• 14:22
  told
• 14:22
  you,
• 14:22
  my
• 14:22
  teacher,
• 14:22
  she
• 14:22
  knew
• 14:23
  something
• 14:23
  was
• 14:23
  wrong
• 14:23
  with
• 14:23
  me,
• 14:23
  but
• 14:24
  she
• 14:24
  didn't
• 14:24
  know
• 14:24
  what
• 14:24
  to
• 14:24
  do.
• 14:25
  So
• 14:25
  I'm
• 14:26
  also
• 14:26
  trying
• 14:26
  to
• 14:26
  develop
• 14:26
  a
• 14:27
  clinical
• 14:27
  tool
• 14:27
  to
• 14:27
  help
• 14:28
  educators
• 14:29
  also
• 14:29
  know
• 14:30
  something
• 14:30
  is
• 14:30
  wrong.
• 14:30
  Who
• 14:31
  do
• 14:31
  I
• 14:31
  refer
• 14:32
  this
• 14:32
  child
• 14:32
  to?
• 14:33
  What
• 14:33
  do
• 14:33
  I
• 14:33
  do?
• 14:33
  So.
• 14:34
  So
• 14:34
  I'm
• 14:35
  very
• 14:35
  excited.
• 14:36
  That's
• 14:36
  terrific.
• 14:37
  Now,
• 14:37
  your
• 14:38
  book's
• 14:38
  available
• 14:39
  on
• 14:39
  Amazon
• 14:40
  in
• 14:41
  ebook
• 14:41
  and
• 14:41
  softcover,
• 14:42
  correct?
• 14:43
  That's
• 14:44
  correct.
• 14:45
  And
• 14:45
  are
• 14:45
  you
• 14:46
  also
• 14:46
  using
• 14:47
  ingramsparks?
• 14:49
  Yes,
• 14:49
  it's
• 14:49
  on
• 14:49
  ingramsparks.
• 14:50
  So
• 14:50
  because
• 14:50
  I
• 14:51
  uploaded
• 14:51
  to
• 14:51
  ingramspark,
• 14:52
  it's
• 14:52
  now
• 14:52
  also
• 14:53
  on
• 14:53
  Barnes
• 14:54
  and
• 14:54
  Noble
• 14:55
  and
• 14:55
  a
• 14:55
  few
• 14:55
  other.
• 14:56
  Yeah,
• 14:56
  all
• 14:56
  of
• 14:56
  the.
• 14:57
  Usually
• 14:57
  when
• 14:58
  you
• 14:58
  get
• 14:58
  onto
• 14:58
  ingramsparks,
• 14:59
  and
• 14:59
  it's
• 15:00
  available
• 15:00
  to
• 15:00
  all
• 15:01
  online
• 15:01
  retailers
• 15:02
  like
• 15:03
  Apple
• 15:03
  Books,
• 15:03
  for
• 15:03
  example,
• 15:04
  and
• 15:04
  things
• 15:05
  like
• 15:05
  that.
• 15:06
  Okay.
• 15:06
  Yeah,
• 15:06
  it's
• 15:06
  been
• 15:06
  popping
• 15:07
  up
• 15:07
  everywhere.
• 15:07
  So
• 15:07
  that's
• 15:08
  been
• 15:08
  exciting.
• 15:08
  Yeah,
• 15:09
  that's
• 15:09
  fantastic.
• 15:10
  And
• 15:10
  so
• 15:11
  I
• 15:11
  want
• 15:11
  to
• 15:11
  talk
• 15:11
  to
• 15:11
  you
• 15:11
  about
• 15:12
  your
• 15:12
  publishing
• 15:12
  approach
• 15:13
  because
• 15:14
  you
• 15:14
  had
• 15:15
  mentioned
• 15:15
  it
• 15:15
  earlier
• 15:16
  and
• 15:17
  so
• 15:17
  repeat
• 15:18
  the
• 15:18
  name
• 15:18
  of
• 15:18
  your
• 15:18
  publishing
• 15:19
  company.
• 15:20
  The
• 15:21
  Resiliency
• 15:22
  Publishing
• 15:22
  House.
• 15:23
  The
• 15:23
  Resiliency
• 15:24
  Publishing
• 15:25
  House.
• 15:26
  Terrific,
• 15:26
  terrific.
• 15:27
  You
• 15:28
  mentioned
• 15:28
  you've
• 15:29
  become
• 15:29
  an
• 15:29
  independent
• 15:30
  children's
• 15:31
  book
• 15:31
  author.
• 15:32
  Did
• 15:33
  you
• 15:33
  start
• 15:34
  off
• 15:35
  independently
• 15:35
  publishing
• 15:36
  your
• 15:36
  first
• 15:36
  book?
• 15:38
  Yes.
• 15:39
  So
• 15:39
  I
• 15:39
  did
• 15:39
  some
• 15:40
  research
• 15:41
  and
• 15:41
  how
• 15:41
  do
• 15:42
  I
• 15:42
  publish
• 15:43
  this
• 15:43
  such.
• 15:45
  And
• 15:45
  you
• 15:46
  have
• 15:46
  to
• 15:46
  be
• 15:46
  careful
• 15:46
  because
• 15:47
  all
• 15:47
  these
• 15:47
  like
• 15:48
  these
• 15:49
  businesses
• 15:49
  came
• 15:50
  up
• 15:50
  saying,
• 15:50
  oh,
• 15:50
  that
• 15:51
  we
• 15:51
  could
• 15:51
  do
• 15:51
  this
• 15:51
  for
• 15:51
  you,
• 15:52
  for
• 15:52
  you.
• 15:53
  They
• 15:53
  wanted
• 15:53
  all
• 15:54
  this
• 15:54
  money
• 15:54
  up
• 15:54
  front.
• 15:55
  But
• 15:55
  then
• 15:55
  I
• 15:55
  discovered
• 15:56
  Amazon
• 15:56
  kdp
• 15:58
  and
• 15:58
  cause
• 15:59
  the
• 15:59
  problem
• 15:59
  was
• 15:59
  I
• 15:59
  didn't
• 15:59
  have
• 16:00
  the
• 16:00
  money
• 16:00
  up
• 16:00
  front,
• 16:01
  so
• 16:01
  I
• 16:01
  discovered
• 16:02
  Amazon
• 16:02
  kdp,
• 16:04
  which
• 16:04
  you
• 16:05
  don't
• 16:05
  have
• 16:05
  to
• 16:05
  put
• 16:05
  any
• 16:05
  money
• 16:06
  up
• 16:06
  front.
• 16:06
  So
• 16:06
  that
• 16:07
  was
• 16:07
  the
• 16:07
  first
• 16:08
  that
• 16:08
  I
• 16:08
  used.
• 16:09
  And
• 16:09
  then
• 16:10
  with
• 16:10
  each
• 16:10
  step,
• 16:10
  I
• 16:10
  started
• 16:11
  learning
• 16:11
  more
• 16:11
  and
• 16:11
  more.
• 16:12
  And
• 16:12
  so
• 16:12
  I'm
• 16:12
  becoming
• 16:13
  more
• 16:13
  knowledgeable
• 16:13
  in
• 16:14
  the
• 16:14
  process
• 16:14
  and
• 16:14
  it's
• 16:14
  really
• 16:15
  not
• 16:15
  that
• 16:15
  difficult
• 16:16
  at
• 16:16
  all.
• 16:17
  I
• 16:17
  agree
• 16:17
  with
• 16:17
  you.
• 16:18
  We
• 16:18
  also
• 16:19
  are
• 16:19
  independently
• 16:20
  published
• 16:21
  book
• 16:21
  authors.
• 16:22
  We've
• 16:22
  published
• 16:23
  two
• 16:23
  children's
• 16:23
  books
• 16:24
  so
• 16:24
  far
• 16:24
  in
• 16:24
  our
• 16:25
  book
• 16:25
  series.
• 16:26
  And
• 16:27
  the
• 16:27
  name
• 16:28
  of
• 16:28
  our
• 16:28
  first
• 16:28
  book
• 16:28
  is
• 16:29
  the
• 16:29
  Adventures
• 16:29
  of
• 16:29
  Caboose
• 16:30
  the
• 16:30
  Rocky
• 16:31
  Mountain
• 16:31
  Bear.
• 16:32
  And
• 16:32
  I
• 16:32
  co
• 16:33
  authored
• 16:33
  the
• 16:34
  this
• 16:34
  book
• 16:34
  with
• 16:34
  my
• 16:35
  oldest
• 16:36
  granddaughter
• 16:37
  and
• 16:37
  we
• 16:37
  named
• 16:38
  our
• 16:38
  publishing
• 16:39
  company
• 16:39
  Caboose
• 16:40
  the
• 16:40
  Rocky
• 16:41
  Mountain
• 16:41
  Bear
• 16:41
  Publishing
• 16:42
  Den.
• 16:43
  Like
• 16:43
  in
• 16:44
  a
• 16:44
  bear
• 16:44
  den.
• 16:45
  So,
• 16:45
  yeah,
• 16:45
  so
• 16:45
  it's
• 16:46
  definitely
• 16:46
  been
• 16:46
  fun.
• 16:47
  And
• 16:48
  to
• 16:48
  your
• 16:49
  point,
• 16:49
  Jacqueline,
• 16:51
  once
• 16:51
  you
• 16:51
  get
• 16:51
  comfortable
• 16:52
  with
• 16:53
  and
• 16:53
  get
• 16:53
  the
• 16:54
  knowledge,
• 16:54
  there's
• 16:54
  only
• 16:54
  about
• 16:55
  six
• 16:55
  or
• 16:55
  seven
• 16:56
  steps
• 16:56
  that
• 16:56
  you
• 16:56
  have
• 16:57
  to
• 16:57
  really
• 16:57
  take
• 16:58
  to
• 16:59
  bring
• 16:59
  your
• 16:59
  book
• 16:59
  to
• 17:00
  life.
• 17:00
  And
• 17:00
  like
• 17:00
  you
• 17:01
  said,
• 17:01
  KDP
• 17:02
  is
• 17:03
  a
• 17:03
  great
• 17:04
  place
• 17:04
  to
• 17:05
  learn.
• 17:06
  Anyone
• 17:06
  listening?
• 17:07
  If
• 17:07
  you're
• 17:07
  just
• 17:07
  starting
• 17:08
  out,
• 17:08
  do
• 17:09
  like
• 17:09
  Jaclyn
• 17:10
  did
• 17:10
  and
• 17:10
  the
• 17:10
  same
• 17:10
  as
• 17:11
  us.
• 17:11
  Go
• 17:12
  to
• 17:12
  kdp,
• 17:12
  which
• 17:13
  is
• 17:13
  part
• 17:13
  of
• 17:13
  Amazon,
• 17:14
  and
• 17:15
  look
• 17:15
  at
• 17:16
  all
• 17:16
  the
• 17:16
  resources
• 17:17
  they
• 17:17
  have
• 17:17
  available
• 17:18
  and
• 17:19
  they
• 17:19
  lay
• 17:19
  it
• 17:19
  out
• 17:20
  for
• 17:20
  you.
• 17:21
  Even
• 17:21
  uploading
• 17:22
  your
• 17:22
  files,
• 17:23
  even
• 17:23
  if
• 17:24
  you
• 17:24
  don't
• 17:24
  upload
• 17:25
  your
• 17:25
  files
• 17:25
  correctly,
• 17:26
  they
• 17:26
  let
• 17:26
  you
• 17:26
  know
• 17:27
  that
• 17:27
  and
• 17:27
  they
• 17:28
  tell
• 17:28
  you
• 17:28
  what
• 17:28
  to
• 17:28
  correct.
• 17:29
  It
• 17:29
  works
• 17:29
  out
• 17:30
  very
• 17:30
  well.
• 17:31
  When
• 17:31
  it
• 17:31
  came
• 17:31
  to
• 17:32
  publishing
• 17:32
  your
• 17:33
  children's
• 17:33
  book,
• 17:34
  what
• 17:34
  was
• 17:34
  the
• 17:34
  biggest
• 17:35
  challenge
• 17:35
  or
• 17:36
  frustration
• 17:37
  for
• 17:37
  you
• 17:38
  in
• 17:38
  the
• 17:38
  beginning?
• 17:40
  I
• 17:40
  wrote
• 17:40
  the
• 17:40
  book
• 17:41
  like,
• 17:43
  I
• 17:43
  don't
• 17:43
  know,
• 17:44
  two
• 17:44
  weeks.
• 17:45
  When
• 17:45
  you
• 17:45
  write
• 17:45
  a
• 17:45
  children's
• 17:46
  book,
• 17:46
  you
• 17:46
  work
• 17:46
  with
• 17:46
  an
• 17:47
  illustrator
• 17:47
  and
• 17:48
  it
• 17:48
  took
• 17:48
  the
• 17:48
  illustrator
• 17:49
  months,
• 17:50
  it
• 17:50
  took
• 17:50
  her
• 17:51
  months
• 17:51
  to
• 17:52
  to
• 17:52
  complete
• 17:53
  all
• 17:53
  the
• 17:53
  drawing.
• 17:54
  So
• 17:55
  that
• 17:55
  was
• 17:55
  difficult
• 17:55
  at
• 17:55
  first.
• 17:56
  I
• 17:56
  had
• 17:56
  to
• 17:56
  be
• 17:57
  patient.
• 17:58
  This
• 17:58
  is
• 17:58
  a
• 17:58
  process
• 17:59
  is
• 18:00
  not
• 18:00
  the
• 18:00
  truth,
• 18:02
  you
• 18:02
  know,
• 18:03
  and
• 18:03
  she
• 18:03
  was
• 18:03
  really
• 18:03
  good,
• 18:04
  but
• 18:04
  it
• 18:04
  would
• 18:04
  take
• 18:04
  her
• 18:05
  Two
• 18:05
  days
• 18:06
  to
• 18:06
  do
• 18:06
  one
• 18:07
  page,
• 18:07
  and
• 18:08
  that's
• 18:08
  excluding
• 18:08
  Saturday
• 18:09
  and
• 18:09
  Sunday.
• 18:09
  So
• 18:09
  obviously
• 18:09
  she
• 18:10
  doesn't
• 18:10
  work
• 18:10
  Saturday
• 18:10
  and
• 18:11
  Sunday.
• 18:12
  It
• 18:12
  just
• 18:12
  took
• 18:12
  some
• 18:12
  patience
• 18:13
  on
• 18:13
  my
• 18:13
  part.
• 18:13
  And
• 18:13
  then
• 18:14
  I
• 18:14
  didn't
• 18:14
  know
• 18:14
  how
• 18:14
  to
• 18:14
  format
• 18:15
  the
• 18:15
  book
• 18:16
  and
• 18:16
  so
• 18:16
  I
• 18:16
  looked
• 18:17
  on
• 18:17
  Etsy
• 18:17
  and
• 18:17
  I
• 18:18
  found
• 18:18
  the
• 18:18
  formatter.
• 18:19
  And
• 18:20
  that
• 18:20
  also
• 18:20
  took
• 18:21
  a
• 18:21
  couple
• 18:21
  of
• 18:21
  weeks.
• 18:23
  So
• 18:23
  I
• 18:23
  would
• 18:23
  just
• 18:23
  say
• 18:23
  just
• 18:24
  being
• 18:24
  patient
• 18:24
  with
• 18:24
  the
• 18:25
  process,
• 18:25
  that
• 18:25
  was
• 18:25
  the
• 18:25
  most
• 18:25
  difficult
• 18:26
  part.
• 18:26
  Okay.
• 18:27
  And
• 18:27
  just
• 18:27
  so
• 18:27
  you
• 18:28
  know,
• 18:29
  sorry
• 18:29
  I'm
• 18:30
  laughing,
• 18:30
  but
• 18:31
  actually
• 18:31
  that's
• 18:32
  pretty
• 18:32
  quick.
• 18:34
  I
• 18:34
  can
• 18:34
  tell
• 18:34
  you.
• 18:35
  In
• 18:35
  some
• 18:35
  cases,
• 18:36
  the.
• 18:36
  Now
• 18:37
  I
• 18:37
  know
• 18:37
  your
• 18:37
  illustrator's
• 18:38
  in
• 18:38
  Italy
• 18:39
  and
• 18:39
  our
• 18:39
  illustrator
• 18:40
  in
• 18:40
  the
• 18:40
  uk,
• 18:42
  and
• 18:42
  sometimes
• 18:43
  it
• 18:43
  was
• 18:43
  a
• 18:43
  couple
• 18:44
  of
• 18:44
  weeks
• 18:44
  between
• 18:45
  illustrations,
• 18:46
  not
• 18:47
  a
• 18:47
  couple
• 18:47
  of
• 18:47
  days.
• 18:49
  You
• 18:49
  definitely
• 18:49
  have
• 18:50
  to
• 18:50
  be
• 18:51
  for
• 18:51
  sure
• 18:51
  patient
• 18:52
  in
• 18:52
  the
• 18:53
  process.
• 18:54
  And
• 18:54
  another
• 18:54
  thing
• 18:55
  is
• 18:55
  that
• 18:55
  we're
• 18:55
  not
• 18:55
  in
• 18:55
  the
• 18:55
  same
• 18:56
  time
• 18:56
  zone.
• 18:56
  So
• 18:56
  she
• 18:57
  would
• 18:57
  send
• 18:57
  me
• 18:57
  her
• 18:58
  work
• 18:58
  at
• 18:58
  4
• 18:59
  in
• 18:59
  the
• 18:59
  morning
• 19:00
  and
• 19:00
  there
• 19:01
  was
• 19:01
  like
• 19:01
  the
• 19:01
  flag
• 19:02
  and
• 19:02
  fonts.
• 19:03
  Did
• 19:03
  I
• 19:04
  like?
• 19:04
  Did
• 19:04
  I
• 19:04
  not?
• 19:05
  And
• 19:05
  then
• 19:05
  after
• 19:06
  a
• 19:06
  while,
• 19:06
  I
• 19:06
  became
• 19:07
  so
• 19:07
  excited
• 19:07
  because
• 19:07
  I
• 19:08
  knew
• 19:08
  I
• 19:08
  was
• 19:08
  going
• 19:08
  to
• 19:08
  get
• 19:08
  something
• 19:08
  in
• 19:09
  the
• 19:09
  morning.
• 19:09
  Then
• 19:09
  I
• 19:09
  would
• 19:09
  wake
• 19:09
  up
• 19:10
  at
• 19:10
  4
• 19:10
  o',
• 19:10
  clock,
• 19:11
  waited
• 19:11
  to
• 19:11
  see
• 19:11
  her
• 19:12
  work.
• 19:13
  Yeah,
• 19:14
  it
• 19:14
  was
• 19:14
  an
• 19:14
  exciting
• 19:14
  process.
• 19:15
  Absolutely.
• 19:16
  It
• 19:17
  just
• 19:17
  takes
• 19:17
  time.
• 19:17
  Yeah.
• 19:18
  Tell
• 19:18
  us
• 19:19
  the
• 19:19
  name
• 19:19
  of
• 19:19
  your
• 19:19
  illustrator.
• 19:21
  She's
• 19:21
  in
• 19:21
  Italy.
• 19:22
  And
• 19:22
  how
• 19:22
  did
• 19:22
  you
• 19:22
  find
• 19:23
  her?
• 19:24
  Her
• 19:24
  name
• 19:24
  is
• 19:25
  Electra
• 19:26
  Cube
• 19:26
  Donato.
• 19:27
  She's
• 19:28
  amazing.
• 19:29
  I
• 19:29
  actually
• 19:29
  went
• 19:29
  to
• 19:29
  Etsy.
• 19:31
  So
• 19:31
  on
• 19:31
  Etsy,
• 19:32
  if
• 19:32
  you
• 19:32
  type
• 19:32
  in
• 19:32
  children's
• 19:33
  book
• 19:33
  illustrator,
• 19:34
  there's
• 19:34
  like
• 19:34
  a
• 19:34
  whole
• 19:35
  long
• 19:35
  list.
• 19:35
  And.
• 19:36
  Okay.
• 19:36
  I
• 19:37
  just
• 19:37
  looked
• 19:37
  at
• 19:37
  everyone's
• 19:38
  work
• 19:38
  and
• 19:38
  hers
• 19:39
  popped.
• 19:40
  It
• 19:40
  stood
• 19:40
  out
• 19:40
  to
• 19:40
  me
• 19:40
  right
• 19:41
  away
• 19:41
  and
• 19:41
  I
• 19:41
  knew
• 19:41
  she
• 19:41
  was
• 19:42
  the
• 19:42
  person
• 19:43
  I
• 19:43
  wanted
• 19:43
  to
• 19:43
  work
• 19:43
  with.
• 19:44
  And
• 19:44
  we've
• 19:44
  actually,
• 19:44
  in
• 19:45
  this
• 19:45
  process,
• 19:46
  became
• 19:47
  friends
• 19:48
  from
• 19:48
  talking
• 19:48
  every
• 19:48
  day.
• 19:49
  And
• 19:49
  she's
• 19:50
  just
• 19:50
  a
• 19:50
  beautiful
• 19:50
  soul.
• 19:51
  She's
• 19:51
  a
• 19:51
  beautiful
• 19:51
  person.
• 19:52
  That's
• 19:52
  fantastic.
• 19:53
  And
• 19:54
  it's
• 19:54
  interesting
• 19:54
  because
• 19:55
  most
• 19:56
  children's
• 19:56
  book
• 19:57
  authors
• 19:57
  that
• 19:57
  I've
• 19:57
  talked
• 19:58
  to,
• 19:58
  once
• 19:59
  they've
• 19:59
  developed
• 20:00
  a
• 20:00
  relationship
• 20:01
  with
• 20:01
  their
• 20:01
  illustrator,
• 20:02
  it
• 20:03
  turns
• 20:03
  into
• 20:03
  a
• 20:03
  friendship
• 20:04
  and
• 20:05
  a
• 20:05
  bond.
• 20:06
  In
• 20:06
  a
• 20:06
  lot
• 20:07
  of
• 20:07
  cases,
• 20:07
  when
• 20:08
  they've
• 20:08
  written
• 20:08
  multiple
• 20:09
  books,
• 20:09
  they're
• 20:10
  using
• 20:10
  the
• 20:10
  same
• 20:10
  illustrator.
• 20:11
  Do
• 20:12
  you
• 20:12
  want
• 20:12
  to
• 20:12
  use
• 20:12
  the
• 20:12
  same
• 20:12
  illustrator
• 20:13
  for
• 20:13
  your
• 20:13
  next
• 20:14
  book?
• 20:15
  Yes.
• 20:15
  I'll
• 20:16
  tell
• 20:16
  you
• 20:16
  something
• 20:16
  funny.
• 20:17
  I
• 20:17
  had
• 20:17
  started
• 20:17
  my
• 20:17
  second
• 20:18
  book
• 20:18
  before
• 20:19
  she
• 20:19
  finished
• 20:19
  working
• 20:20
  on
• 20:20
  the
• 20:20
  first
• 20:21
  book's
• 20:21
  page.
• 20:21
  I
• 20:22
  thought
• 20:22
  maybe
• 20:22
  I
• 20:22
  could
• 20:22
  get
• 20:22
  ahead
• 20:23
  of
• 20:23
  the
• 20:23
  game
• 20:24
  and
• 20:24
  get
• 20:25
  a
• 20:25
  second
• 20:25
  illustrator
• 20:26
  to
• 20:26
  start
• 20:26
  this
• 20:26
  second
• 20:27
  book,
• 20:28
  but
• 20:28
  it
• 20:28
  just
• 20:28
  did
• 20:29
  not
• 20:29
  work.
• 20:30
  I
• 20:30
  didn't
• 20:30
  care
• 20:30
  for
• 20:30
  the
• 20:31
  illustrations,
• 20:31
  didn't
• 20:32
  bond.
• 20:32
  I
• 20:32
  think
• 20:33
  this
• 20:33
  person
• 20:33
  was
• 20:33
  in
• 20:33
  India.
• 20:34
  His
• 20:35
  work
• 20:35
  was
• 20:35
  great,
• 20:35
  but
• 20:36
  it
• 20:36
  just.
• 20:36
  It
• 20:36
  didn't
• 20:36
  give
• 20:37
  me
• 20:37
  the
• 20:37
  feeling
• 20:38
  of
• 20:38
  the
• 20:38
  first
• 20:38
  one.
• 20:38
  But
• 20:39
  after
• 20:39
  that,
• 20:39
  I
• 20:39
  said,
• 20:40
  you
• 20:40
  know
• 20:40
  what?
• 20:40
  I'm
• 20:40
  just
• 20:40
  gonna
• 20:41
  stick
• 20:41
  to
• 20:41
  my
• 20:41
  girl.
• 20:42
  And
• 20:43
  she's
• 20:44
  the
• 20:44
  official
• 20:44
  illustrator
• 20:45
  for
• 20:45
  all
• 20:45
  my
• 20:45
  books.
• 20:46
  It's
• 20:46
  interesting
• 20:46
  you
• 20:46
  should
• 20:47
  say
• 20:47
  that,
• 20:47
  because
• 20:48
  even
• 20:48
  with
• 20:48
  us,
• 20:49
  when
• 20:49
  we
• 20:49
  did
• 20:49
  our
• 20:49
  second
• 20:50
  book,
• 20:50
  it's
• 20:50
  because
• 20:51
  we
• 20:51
  have
• 20:51
  a
• 20:51
  book
• 20:52
  series.
• 20:53
  We
• 20:53
  wanted
• 20:53
  to
• 20:54
  make
• 20:54
  sure
• 20:54
  that
• 20:54
  the
• 20:55
  characters.
• 20:56
  Because
• 20:56
  our
• 20:56
  main
• 20:56
  character
• 20:57
  is
• 20:57
  also
• 20:58
  in
• 20:58
  the
• 20:58
  second
• 20:58
  book,
• 20:59
  and
• 20:59
  we
• 20:59
  wanted
• 20:59
  to
• 21:00
  make
• 21:00
  sure
• 21:00
  that
• 21:00
  our
• 21:01
  main
• 21:01
  character
• 21:01
  and
• 21:02
  the
• 21:02
  characters
• 21:02
  had
• 21:03
  that
• 21:03
  same
• 21:04
  feel
• 21:04
  that
• 21:05
  you're
• 21:05
  talking
• 21:05
  about.
• 21:06
  There's
• 21:06
  a
• 21:06
  certain
• 21:07
  feel
• 21:07
  about
• 21:08
  the
• 21:08
  illustrations.
• 21:09
  Yeah,
• 21:09
  I
• 21:10
  know
• 21:10
  exactly
• 21:10
  what
• 21:11
  you're
• 21:11
  talking
• 21:11
  about.
• 21:12
  So
• 21:12
  that's
• 21:13
  fantastic.
• 21:14
  So
• 21:14
  I'm
• 21:14
  interested.
• 21:15
  Now
• 21:15
  that
• 21:15
  we
• 21:16
  know
• 21:16
  that
• 21:16
  you've
• 21:16
  incorporated,
• 21:17
  you're
• 21:18
  building
• 21:18
  out
• 21:19
  a
• 21:19
  business.
• 21:20
  I'm
• 21:20
  interested
• 21:21
  in
• 21:22
  what
• 21:23
  is
• 21:23
  the
• 21:23
  name
• 21:23
  of
• 21:24
  your
• 21:24
  websites?
• 21:26
  The
• 21:26
  Nonprofit
• 21:27
  website
• 21:27
  is
• 21:27
  helpmesprout.org
• 21:29
  since
• 21:30
  we
• 21:30
  became
• 21:30
  a
• 21:30
  5113C
• 21:31
  last
• 21:32
  week,
• 21:32
  now
• 21:32
  we
• 21:32
  can
• 21:33
  officially
• 21:33
  accept
• 21:33
  donations,
• 21:34
  and
• 21:35
  those
• 21:35
  donations
• 21:36
  are
• 21:36
  tax
• 21:36
  deductible
• 21:37
  at
• 21:37
  the
• 21:37
  end
• 21:37
  of
• 21:38
  the
• 21:38
  year.
• 21:38
  Okay.
• 21:39
  Everyone
• 21:39
  is
• 21:39
  welcome
• 21:40
  to
• 21:40
  visit
• 21:40
  that
• 21:40
  website.
• 21:41
  Terrific.
• 21:41
  Terrific.
• 21:43
  My
• 21:43
  publishing
• 21:44
  website
• 21:45
  is
• 21:45
  resiliency
• 21:46
  house.org.
• 21:48
  okay.
• 21:49
  Resiliency
• 21:50
  house.org.
• 21:52
  yeah.
• 21:53
  Okay.
• 21:54
  And
• 21:54
  what
• 21:54
  I'm
• 21:54
  planning
• 21:55
  to
• 21:55
  do,
• 21:55
  actually,
• 21:56
  I
• 21:56
  learned
• 21:56
  this
• 21:56
  in
• 21:57
  the
• 21:57
  process
• 21:57
  of
• 21:59
  self
• 21:59
  publishing,
• 22:00
  too,
• 22:00
  is
• 22:00
  I'm
• 22:01
  planning
• 22:01
  to
• 22:01
  eventually
• 22:03
  be
• 22:03
  able
• 22:03
  to
• 22:03
  sell
• 22:03
  the
• 22:04
  books
• 22:04
  directly
• 22:04
  from
• 22:04
  my
• 22:05
  website.
• 22:05
  And
• 22:06
  this
• 22:06
  process,
• 22:07
  I
• 22:07
  learned
• 22:07
  about
• 22:08
  different
• 22:08
  companies
• 22:08
  that
• 22:09
  will
• 22:10
  print
• 22:10
  for
• 22:10
  you.
• 22:10
  Like
• 22:11
  Print
• 22:11
  on
• 22:11
  Demand.
• 22:12
  Yes.
• 22:12
  I
• 22:12
  played
• 22:13
  around
• 22:13
  with
• 22:13
  some.
• 22:14
  And
• 22:15
  the
• 22:15
  one
• 22:15
  that
• 22:15
  I
• 22:15
  love
• 22:16
  the
• 22:16
  most
• 22:16
  actually
• 22:17
  called
• 22:17
  Book
• 22:17
  Vault.
• 22:18
  Book
• 22:19
  Vault.
• 22:20
  Okay.
• 22:21
  They're
• 22:22
  Print
• 22:22
  on
• 22:22
  Demand.
• 22:23
  But
• 22:23
  what's
• 22:23
  the
• 22:24
  difference
• 22:24
  between
• 22:25
  them
• 22:25
  and
• 22:25
  Amazon?
• 22:27
  The
• 22:27
  printing
• 22:28
  costs?
• 22:29
  Like,
• 22:29
  you
• 22:29
  get
• 22:29
  more
• 22:29
  royalties
• 22:30
  by.
• 22:31
  Because
• 22:31
  essentially
• 22:32
  you're
• 22:32
  only
• 22:32
  paying
• 22:32
  the
• 22:33
  printing
• 22:33
  cost
• 22:34
  when
• 22:34
  an
• 22:34
  order
• 22:35
  comes
• 22:35
  in
• 22:35
  through
• 22:36
  your
• 22:36
  website.
• 22:36
  Just
• 22:37
  so
• 22:37
  I
• 22:37
  understand
• 22:37
  that
• 22:38
  it
• 22:39
  goes
• 22:39
  to
• 22:39
  Book
• 22:40
  Vault,
• 22:41
  they
• 22:41
  print
• 22:41
  it.
• 22:42
  And
• 22:42
  do
• 22:42
  they
• 22:42
  ship
• 22:43
  it
• 22:43
  directly
• 22:44
  to
• 22:44
  the
• 22:44
  client
• 22:45
  so
• 22:46
  you
• 22:46
  don't
• 22:46
  have
• 22:46
  to
• 22:46
  carry
• 22:47
  any
• 22:47
  inventory?
• 22:48
  No.
• 22:49
  And.
• 22:49
  And
• 22:50
  the
• 22:50
  royalties
• 22:51
  are
• 22:51
  better
• 22:51
  for
• 22:51
  you.
• 22:53
  Yes.
• 22:53
  And
• 22:53
  also
• 22:53
  it
• 22:54
  allows
• 22:54
  me
• 22:54
  to
• 22:55
  keep
• 22:55
  the
• 22:55
  price
• 22:55
  of
• 22:55
  the
• 22:56
  book
• 22:56
  lower
• 22:56
  because
• 22:57
  what
• 22:58
  has
• 22:58
  happened
• 22:58
  with
• 22:59
  Amazon
• 23:00
  and
• 23:00
  IngramSpark
• 23:01
  is
• 23:02
  the
• 23:02
  price
• 23:03
  has
• 23:03
  to
• 23:03
  be
• 23:03
  a
• 23:04
  little
• 23:04
  bit
• 23:04
  higher
• 23:04
  in
• 23:04
  order
• 23:05
  for
• 23:05
  them
• 23:05
  to
• 23:06
  be
• 23:06
  compensated
• 23:06
  whatever
• 23:07
  portion
• 23:07
  they
• 23:07
  get.
• 23:08
  You
• 23:08
  bet.
• 23:09
  Yeah.
• 23:09
  But
• 23:10
  with
• 23:10
  Book
• 23:10
  Vault,
• 23:10
  I
• 23:11
  think
• 23:11
  the
• 23:11
  print
• 23:11
  cost
• 23:11
  of
• 23:12
  my
• 23:12
  book
• 23:12
  is,
• 23:12
  I
• 23:12
  don't
• 23:13
  know,
• 23:14
  let's
• 23:14
  say
• 23:14
  $12.
• 23:15
  So
• 23:16
  then
• 23:16
  I
• 23:16
  can
• 23:16
  charge,
• 23:17
  let's
• 23:17
  say
• 23:17
  $15.
• 23:18
  Keep
• 23:18
  it
• 23:18
  more
• 23:19
  reasonable
• 23:19
  than
• 23:20
  right
• 23:20
  now
• 23:20
  on
• 23:21
  Amazon,
• 23:21
  it
• 23:21
  costs
• 23:22
  a
• 23:22
  little
• 23:22
  bit
• 23:22
  more.
• 23:23
  Okay.
• 23:23
  So
• 23:23
  it
• 23:23
  works
• 23:24
  out.
• 23:24
  Yes.
• 23:25
  And.
• 23:25
  And
• 23:25
  I
• 23:25
  must
• 23:26
  say,
• 23:27
  I
• 23:27
  love
• 23:27
  the
• 23:28
  print
• 23:28
  quality.
• 23:29
  The
• 23:29
  first
• 23:29
  book
• 23:29
  that
• 23:29
  I
• 23:29
  got
• 23:30
  from
• 23:30
  them
• 23:31
  it
• 23:31
  was
• 23:31
  like
• 23:32
  the
• 23:32
  print
• 23:32
  quality
• 23:32
  was
• 23:32
  so
• 23:33
  amazing.
• 23:33
  And
• 23:33
  of
• 23:34
  course,
• 23:34
  that
• 23:34
  adds
• 23:34
  to
• 23:34
  when
• 23:35
  you
• 23:35
  receive
• 23:36
  the
• 23:36
  book
• 23:36
  you
• 23:37
  want.
• 23:38
  You're
• 23:39
  working
• 23:39
  on
• 23:39
  that
• 23:40
  tied
• 23:40
  into
• 23:41
  your
• 23:41
  website?
• 23:41
  Yeah,
• 23:42
  it's.
• 23:42
  It's
• 23:42
  not
• 23:43
  there
• 23:43
  yet,
• 23:43
  but
• 23:43
  I'm
• 23:43
  working
• 23:44
  on
• 23:44
  it
• 23:44
  in
• 23:44
  process.
• 23:45
  Talk
• 23:45
  to
• 23:45
  us
• 23:46
  about
• 23:47
  knowing
• 23:48
  now
• 23:49
  that
• 23:49
  you
• 23:50
  have
• 23:50
  this
• 23:50
  publishing
• 23:51
  company
• 23:52
  and
• 23:53
  you've
• 23:53
  got
• 23:53
  the
• 23:54
  website.
• 23:54
  Talk
• 23:55
  to
• 23:55
  us
• 23:55
  about
• 23:55
  your
• 23:56
  website.
• 23:57
  Okay.
• 23:58
  So
• 23:58
  on
• 23:58
  the
• 23:58
  website,
• 23:59
  I
• 23:59
  introduced
• 23:59
  myself,
• 24:00
  who
• 24:00
  I
• 24:00
  am,
• 24:00
  I
• 24:01
  tell
• 24:01
  my
• 24:01
  story,
• 24:01
  why
• 24:02
  I
• 24:02
  decided
• 24:02
  to
• 24:03
  write
• 24:03
  these
• 24:03
  books.
• 24:04
  I
• 24:04
  also
• 24:05
  introduced
• 24:06
  the
• 24:06
  illustrator.
• 24:07
  She's
• 24:08
  so
• 24:08
  awesome
• 24:08
  in
• 24:08
  that
• 24:09
  when
• 24:09
  we
• 24:09
  had
• 24:09
  our
• 24:10
  first
• 24:10
  meeting,
• 24:11
  she
• 24:11
  said,
• 24:11
  oh,
• 24:12
  you
• 24:12
  don't
• 24:12
  have
• 24:12
  to
• 24:12
  put
• 24:12
  my
• 24:13
  name.
• 24:13
  You
• 24:13
  don't
• 24:13
  have
• 24:13
  to
• 24:13
  include
• 24:14
  me.
• 24:14
  You
• 24:14
  don't
• 24:14
  have
• 24:14
  to.
• 24:14
  And
• 24:14
  I
• 24:15
  was
• 24:15
  like,
• 24:15
  no,
• 24:15
  you
• 24:15
  deserve
• 24:15
  the
• 24:16
  credit
• 24:16
  for
• 24:16
  what
• 24:16
  you've
• 24:16
  done.
• 24:17
  So
• 24:17
  I'm
• 24:18
  very
• 24:18
  insistent
• 24:19
  on
• 24:19
  that.
• 24:19
  There's
• 24:19
  information
• 24:20
  about
• 24:20
  her
• 24:20
  too.
• 24:21
  And
• 24:22
  there's
• 24:22
  a
• 24:22
  video
• 24:22
  on
• 24:23
  the
• 24:23
  opening
• 24:23
  page
• 24:23
  just
• 24:24
  about
• 24:24
  my
• 24:24
  life
• 24:24
  story.
• 24:25
  Because
• 24:26
  really,
• 24:27
  in
• 24:27
  order
• 24:27
  to
• 24:27
  understand
• 24:28
  the
• 24:28
  book,
• 24:29
  like,
• 24:29
  you
• 24:29
  have
• 24:29
  to
• 24:29
  understand
• 24:29
  a
• 24:30
  little
• 24:30
  bit
• 24:30
  of
• 24:30
  the
• 24:30
  story.
• 24:31
  There's
• 24:31
  a
• 24:31
  video
• 24:31
  on
• 24:31
  the
• 24:32
  opening
• 24:32
  page
• 24:33
  and
• 24:34
  there's
• 24:34
  also
• 24:34
  a
• 24:35
  link
• 24:35
  on
• 24:35
  one
• 24:36
  of
• 24:36
  the
• 24:36
  pages
• 24:36
  dedicated
• 24:37
  to
• 24:37
  the
• 24:37
  nonprofit.
• 24:38
  And
• 24:39
  then
• 24:39
  there's
• 24:39
  the
• 24:39
  bookstore
• 24:40
  page,
• 24:40
  which
• 24:40
  that's
• 24:41
  the
• 24:41
  only
• 24:41
  page
• 24:41
  that's
• 24:42
  really
• 24:42
  incomplete
• 24:42
  right
• 24:42
  now.
• 24:43
  Will
• 24:43
  you
• 24:43
  be
• 24:43
  middle
• 24:44
  part?
• 24:45
  Okay.
• 24:46
  And
• 24:46
  so
• 24:46
  on
• 24:47
  your
• 24:47
  bookstore
• 24:47
  page
• 24:48
  right
• 24:48
  now,
• 24:48
  is
• 24:49
  there
• 24:49
  a
• 24:49
  link
• 24:49
  to
• 24:49
  Amazon?
• 24:50
  There's
• 24:50
  a
• 24:51
  link
• 24:51
  to
• 24:52
  IngramSpark,
• 24:53
  but
• 24:53
  you
• 24:53
  don't
• 24:54
  send
• 24:54
  them
• 24:54
  to
• 24:54
  Amazon.
• 24:56
  Actually,
• 24:56
  I
• 24:56
  think
• 24:57
  I
• 24:57
  didn't
• 24:57
  know
• 24:57
  how
• 24:57
  to
• 24:57
  include
• 24:58
  that
• 24:58
  link,
• 24:58
  so
• 24:58
  I
• 24:58
  just
• 24:59
  put
• 24:59
  IngramSpark.
• 25:00
  Okay.
• 25:01
  How
• 25:01
  to
• 25:01
  do
• 25:01
  that?
• 25:01
  Now
• 25:01
  that
• 25:01
  you
• 25:02
  mentioned
• 25:02
  it,
• 25:02
  you'll
• 25:03
  see
• 25:03
  you
• 25:03
  can
• 25:03
  actually
• 25:04
  copy
• 25:04
  the
• 25:04
  link
• 25:05
  quite
• 25:06
  easily
• 25:06
  off
• 25:06
  of
• 25:07
  Amazon.
• 25:07
  On
• 25:08
  the
• 25:08
  right
• 25:08
  hand
• 25:08
  side
• 25:09
  of
• 25:09
  the
• 25:09
  title
• 25:09
  of
• 25:10
  your
• 25:10
  book,
• 25:10
  there
• 25:11
  is
• 25:11
  a
• 25:11
  box
• 25:12
  with
• 25:12
  an
• 25:12
  arrow
• 25:13
  says
• 25:14
  share
• 25:14
  link
• 25:15
  that
• 25:15
  you
• 25:15
  can
• 25:15
  just
• 25:16
  go
• 25:16
  on
• 25:16
  and
• 25:17
  it
• 25:17
  says
• 25:17
  copy
• 25:17
  link.
• 25:18
  And
• 25:19
  you
• 25:19
  just
• 25:20
  add
• 25:20
  it
• 25:20
  to
• 25:20
  there
• 25:21
  and
• 25:21
  it'll
• 25:22
  take
• 25:22
  people
• 25:22
  directly
• 25:23
  to
• 25:23
  your
• 25:23
  book.
• 25:24
  I
• 25:25
  love
• 25:25
  this.
• 25:25
  Authors
• 25:26
  helping
• 25:26
  author.
• 25:27
  Thank
• 25:28
  you.
• 25:28
  Yeah,
• 25:29
  no,
• 25:29
  thank
• 25:29
  you
• 25:29
  for
• 25:29
  sharing
• 25:30
  that.
• 25:30
  That's
• 25:30
  fantastic.
• 25:32
  Your
• 25:32
  website,
• 25:33
  you've
• 25:33
  got
• 25:34
  more
• 25:34
  intentions
• 25:35
  as
• 25:35
  you
• 25:35
  build
• 25:36
  your
• 25:36
  business
• 25:36
  around
• 25:37
  it.
• 25:37
  It's
• 25:37
  just
• 25:38
  in
• 25:38
  progress
• 25:38
  right
• 25:38
  now.
• 25:39
  No,
• 25:39
  but
• 25:39
  you
• 25:39
  know
• 25:40
  what?
• 25:40
  We
• 25:40
  all
• 25:40
  have
• 25:40
  to
• 25:40
  start
• 25:40
  somewhere.
• 25:41
  It
• 25:41
  was
• 25:41
  funny
• 25:42
  we
• 25:43
  had
• 25:43
  set
• 25:43
  our
• 25:43
  website
• 25:44
  up,
• 25:44
  but
• 25:45
  the
• 25:45
  only
• 25:45
  thing
• 25:45
  that
• 25:45
  we
• 25:46
  did
• 25:46
  is
• 25:46
  when
• 25:46
  you
• 25:47
  initially
• 25:48
  when
• 25:48
  you
• 25:48
  went
• 25:48
  to
• 25:48
  our
• 25:49
  website,
• 25:49
  it
• 25:50
  took
• 25:50
  you
• 25:50
  to
• 25:50
  our
• 25:50
  link
• 25:51
  to
• 25:51
  Amazon
• 25:52
  to
• 25:52
  purchase
• 25:53
  our
• 25:53
  book.
• 25:54
  Oh,
• 25:54
  wow.
• 25:55
  Yeah.
• 25:55
  So
• 25:56
  it
• 25:56
  just.
• 25:56
  So
• 25:56
  you
• 25:56
  put
• 25:57
  in
• 25:57
  our
• 25:57
  website,
• 25:57
  which
• 25:58
  is
• 25:58
  caboose
• 25:58
  the
• 25:59
  Rocky
• 25:59
  Mountain
• 25:59
  bear
• 26:00
  dot
• 26:00
  com.
• 26:01
  And
• 26:01
  when
• 26:02
  you
• 26:02
  did
• 26:02
  that,
• 26:02
  it
• 26:03
  just
• 26:03
  took
• 26:03
  you
• 26:03
  to
• 26:04
  the
• 26:04
  Amazon
• 26:04
  link
• 26:05
  to
• 26:05
  the
• 26:05
  book.
• 26:07
  But
• 26:07
  if
• 26:07
  you
• 26:07
  look
• 26:08
  now,
• 26:08
  our
• 26:08
  website
• 26:09
  is
• 26:09
  quite
• 26:09
  rich
• 26:10
  with
• 26:10
  information
• 26:11
  and
• 26:12
  fun
• 26:12
  stuff.
• 26:13
  Check
• 26:13
  it
• 26:13
  out.
• 26:13
  Yeah,
• 26:15
  you've
• 26:15
  described
• 26:16
  your
• 26:16
  life
• 26:17
  and
• 26:18
  the
• 26:18
  inspiration
• 26:19
  behind
• 26:19
  your
• 26:20
  book.
• 26:20
  But
• 26:21
  take
• 26:21
  us
• 26:22
  a
• 26:22
  little
• 26:22
  deeper
• 26:23
  into.
• 26:24
  I
• 26:25
  know
• 26:25
  you
• 26:25
  were
• 26:25
  journaling,
• 26:26
  but
• 26:26
  take
• 26:27
  us
• 26:27
  from
• 26:28
  that
• 26:28
  moment
• 26:28
  you
• 26:29
  started
• 26:29
  journaling
• 26:30
  and
• 26:30
  then
• 26:30
  thinking,
• 26:31
  you
• 26:31
  know
• 26:31
  what?
• 26:32
  I
• 26:32
  think
• 26:32
  I
• 26:32
  have
• 26:33
  a
• 26:33
  children's
• 26:33
  book
• 26:33
  in
• 26:34
  me.
• 26:35
  Take
• 26:35
  us
• 26:36
  to
• 26:36
  that
• 26:36
  motivation
• 26:37
  that
• 26:37
  did
• 26:37
  that.
• 26:39
  That's
• 26:39
  a
• 26:39
  good
• 26:39
  question.
• 26:40
  I
• 26:41
  think
• 26:43
  so.
• 26:43
  The
• 26:43
  book
• 26:43
  starts
• 26:44
  off
• 26:44
  with
• 26:44
  Dear
• 26:44
  Little
• 26:45
  one.
• 26:46
  And
• 26:46
  there
• 26:47
  was
• 26:47
  a
• 26:48
  point
• 26:49
  when
• 26:49
  I
• 26:50
  was
• 26:50
  writing
• 26:50
  when
• 26:51
  I
• 26:51
  felt
• 26:51
  like
• 26:52
  I
• 26:53
  had
• 26:53
  this
• 26:53
  aha
• 26:53
  moment.
• 26:54
  And
• 26:55
  I
• 26:55
  said,
• 26:55
  I
• 26:55
  can't
• 26:56
  believe
• 26:57
  children
• 26:57
  every
• 26:58
  day
• 26:58
  are
• 26:58
  coping
• 26:59
  with
• 26:59
  these
• 26:59
  families.
• 27:01
  And
• 27:01
  I
• 27:01
  can't
• 27:02
  believe
• 27:03
  a
• 27:03
  lot
• 27:03
  of
• 27:03
  children
• 27:03
  didn't
• 27:04
  not
• 27:04
  have
• 27:04
  a
• 27:05
  grandmother
• 27:06
  who
• 27:07
  protected
• 27:07
  them.
• 27:07
  Like,
• 27:08
  I
• 27:08
  was
• 27:08
  fortunate
• 27:08
  enough
• 27:08
  to
• 27:09
  have
• 27:09
  a
• 27:09
  grandmother
• 27:09
  who
• 27:11
  thankfully
• 27:11
  was
• 27:11
  alive
• 27:12
  through
• 27:13
  high
• 27:14
  school
• 27:14
  for
• 27:14
  me
• 27:14
  and
• 27:15
  then
• 27:15
  subsequently
• 27:16
  college
• 27:17
  for
• 27:17
  me,
• 27:17
  and
• 27:18
  she
• 27:18
  was
• 27:18
  able
• 27:18
  to
• 27:19
  adulthood
• 27:19
  successfully.
• 27:21
  But
• 27:21
  when
• 27:21
  I
• 27:21
  had
• 27:22
  that
• 27:22
  ah,
• 27:22
  found
• 27:22
  moment
• 27:22
  that
• 27:23
  allied
• 27:23
  to
• 27:23
  and
• 27:24
  don't
• 27:24
  have
• 27:24
  that,
• 27:24
  I
• 27:24
  think
• 27:25
  that's
• 27:25
  when
• 27:25
  I
• 27:25
  said,
• 27:27
  I
• 27:27
  think
• 27:27
  these
• 27:27
  words
• 27:28
  could
• 27:28
  help
• 27:28
  other
• 27:28
  children.
• 27:29
  And
• 27:30
  then
• 27:30
  just
• 27:30
  overnight,
• 27:32
  like,
• 27:33
  I'm
• 27:34
  making
• 27:34
  a
• 27:34
  book.
• 27:35
  No,
• 27:35
  but
• 27:36
  good
• 27:36
  for
• 27:36
  you,
• 27:36
  because
• 27:37
  I
• 27:37
  hear
• 27:37
  that
• 27:37
  story
• 27:38
  all
• 27:38
  the
• 27:38
  time
• 27:38
  of
• 27:39
  someone
• 27:40
  I
• 27:40
  was
• 27:40
  talking
• 27:41
  to,
• 27:41
  children's
• 27:42
  book
• 27:42
  author
• 27:42
  Denise
• 27:43
  Cesar,
• 27:44
  episode
• 27:44
  11,
• 27:44
  and
• 27:45
  she
• 27:45
  woke
• 27:46
  up
• 27:46
  in
• 27:46
  the
• 27:46
  middle
• 27:46
  of
• 27:47
  the
• 27:47
  night.
• 27:48
  She
• 27:48
  had
• 27:49
  her
• 27:49
  iPhone
• 27:49
  beside
• 27:50
  her.
• 27:51
  She
• 27:52
  recited
• 27:52
  the
• 27:53
  whole
• 27:53
  book
• 27:53
  into
• 27:54
  her
• 27:54
  iPhone,
• 27:55
  and
• 27:57
  when
• 27:57
  she
• 27:57
  finished
• 27:58
  it
• 27:59
  woke
• 27:59
  up
• 27:59
  her
• 27:59
  husband,
• 28:00
  and
• 28:00
  her
• 28:00
  husband
• 28:00
  said,
• 28:01
  what
• 28:01
  did
• 28:01
  you
• 28:01
  just
• 28:02
  do?
• 28:02
  And
• 28:02
  she
• 28:03
  said,
• 28:03
  oh,
• 28:03
  I
• 28:03
  wrote
• 28:03
  a
• 28:04
  children's
• 28:04
  book.
• 28:05
  When
• 28:05
  it
• 28:05
  comes
• 28:06
  to
• 28:06
  you,
• 28:06
  it
• 28:06
  comes
• 28:06
  to
• 28:07
  you.
• 28:07
  And
• 28:07
  I've
• 28:07
  talked
• 28:07
  to
• 28:08
  other
• 28:08
  children's
• 28:08
  book
• 28:08
  authors
• 28:09
  who
• 28:09
  dropped
• 28:10
  their
• 28:10
  kids
• 28:10
  off
• 28:10
  at
• 28:11
  school,
• 28:11
  and
• 28:12
  then
• 28:12
  all
• 28:12
  of
• 28:12
  a
• 28:12
  sudden
• 28:12
  they
• 28:13
  had
• 28:13
  this
• 28:13
  inspiration
• 28:14
  and
• 28:14
  they
• 28:14
  end
• 28:15
  up
• 28:15
  pulling
• 28:15
  over
• 28:15
  to
• 28:16
  the
• 28:16
  side
• 28:16
  of
• 28:16
  the
• 28:16
  road
• 28:17
  on
• 28:17
  the
• 28:17
  way
• 28:17
  home
• 28:18
  and
• 28:18
  writing
• 28:18
  a
• 28:19
  children's
• 28:19
  book.
• 28:19
  I
• 28:20
  think
• 28:20
  the
• 28:20
  biggest
• 28:20
  thing
• 28:21
  someone
• 28:21
  said
• 28:21
  to
• 28:22
  me
• 28:22
  was
• 28:22
  the
• 28:23
  moment
• 28:23
  you
• 28:23
  get
• 28:24
  the
• 28:24
  idea,
• 28:25
  stop
• 28:25
  whatever
• 28:26
  you're
• 28:26
  doing
• 28:26
  and
• 28:27
  write
• 28:27
  it
• 28:27
  down
• 28:27
  immediately.
• 28:29
  That's
• 28:29
  true.
• 28:30
  Like,
• 28:31
  for
• 28:31
  some
• 28:31
  reason
• 28:31
  my
• 28:32
  thoughts
• 28:32
  come
• 28:32
  to
• 28:32
  me
• 28:32
  at
• 28:33
  night
• 28:33
  and
• 28:36
  like
• 28:36
  in
• 28:36
  the
• 28:36
  when
• 28:37
  my
• 28:37
  grandma
• 28:37
  passed
• 28:37
  away
• 28:38
  grieving.
• 28:39
  Like,
• 28:39
  my
• 28:40
  sleep
• 28:40
  has
• 28:40
  not
• 28:40
  been
• 28:40
  the
• 28:40
  same
• 28:41
  since
• 28:41
  she
• 28:41
  passed
• 28:41
  away.
• 28:42
  I'll
• 28:42
  sleep
• 28:43
  for
• 28:43
  a
• 28:43
  few
• 28:43
  hours
• 28:43
  and
• 28:43
  I'll
• 28:44
  wake
• 28:44
  up.
• 28:44
  And
• 28:44
  then
• 28:45
  at
• 28:45
  that
• 28:45
  time,
• 28:45
  two
• 28:46
  to
• 28:46
  three
• 28:46
  in
• 28:46
  the
• 28:46
  morning
• 28:46
  when
• 28:46
  I
• 28:46
  wake
• 28:47
  up,
• 28:47
  it's
• 28:47
  like
• 28:47
  all
• 28:47
  these
• 28:48
  ideas
• 28:48
  come
• 28:48
  to
• 28:49
  my
• 28:49
  mind
• 28:49
  and
• 28:49
  then
• 28:50
  once
• 28:50
  I
• 28:50
  write
• 28:50
  them
• 28:50
  down,
• 28:51
  I'm
• 28:51
  able
• 28:51
  to
• 28:51
  go
• 28:51
  back
• 28:52
  to
• 28:52
  sleep.
• 28:52
  So
• 28:53
  it's
• 28:53
  been
• 28:53
  an
• 28:53
  interesting
• 28:54
  process.
• 28:55
  No,
• 28:55
  but
• 28:55
  at
• 28:56
  least
• 28:56
  you're
• 28:56
  taking
• 28:56
  Advantage
• 28:57
  of
• 28:57
  it.
• 28:57
  So
• 28:57
  that
• 28:58
  is
• 28:58
  awesome.
• 28:59
  Now
• 29:00
  I
• 29:00
  want
• 29:00
  to
• 29:01
  talk
• 29:01
  a
• 29:01
  bit
• 29:01
  about
• 29:02
  the
• 29:02
  character
• 29:03
  development,
• 29:03
  because
• 29:04
  some
• 29:04
  of
• 29:04
  it
• 29:05
  is
• 29:05
  your
• 29:05
  own
• 29:05
  reflection
• 29:06
  on
• 29:06
  your
• 29:06
  life.
• 29:07
  The
• 29:07
  whole
• 29:07
  book
• 29:07
  is.
• 29:08
  Talk
• 29:08
  to
• 29:09
  us
• 29:09
  about
• 29:09
  the
• 29:10
  whole
• 29:11
  character
• 29:11
  development
• 29:12
  as
• 29:12
  you
• 29:13
  went
• 29:13
  through
• 29:13
  the
• 29:13
  process
• 29:14
  of
• 29:14
  writing
• 29:14
  the
• 29:15
  book
• 29:15
  and
• 29:15
  bringing
• 29:16
  it
• 29:16
  to
• 29:16
  life.
• 29:17
  I
• 29:17
  really
• 29:18
  was
• 29:18
  a
• 29:18
  reflection
• 29:19
  on
• 29:19
  my
• 29:19
  life
• 29:20
  experience.
• 29:20
  When
• 29:21
  I
• 29:21
  was
• 29:21
  young,
• 29:21
  living
• 29:22
  with
• 29:22
  my
• 29:22
  grandmother,
• 29:23
  I
• 29:23
  always
• 29:23
  felt
• 29:23
  safe.
• 29:24
  I
• 29:25
  always
• 29:25
  felt
• 29:25
  loved,
• 29:25
  and
• 29:25
  always
• 29:26
  felt
• 29:26
  protected.
• 29:27
  And
• 29:28
  then
• 29:28
  now
• 29:28
  she
• 29:28
  passed
• 29:28
  away.
• 29:29
  I'm
• 29:29
  dealing
• 29:29
  with
• 29:29
  this
• 29:30
  abusive
• 29:30
  family
• 29:30
  member
• 29:31
  that.
• 29:31
  That
• 29:31
  feeling
• 29:32
  of
• 29:32
  safety
• 29:33
  wasn't
• 29:34
  there
• 29:34
  anymore.
• 29:34
  And
• 29:35
  so,
• 29:35
  honestly,
• 29:36
  when
• 29:36
  I
• 29:36
  started
• 29:36
  writing
• 29:37
  the
• 29:37
  book,
• 29:37
  I
• 29:37
  was
• 29:38
  trying
• 29:38
  to
• 29:38
  tap
• 29:39
  into
• 29:40
  the
• 29:41
  healthy
• 29:41
  feelings
• 29:41
  that
• 29:42
  I
• 29:42
  had
• 29:42
  when
• 29:42
  my
• 29:42
  grandma
• 29:42
  was
• 29:43
  alive.
• 29:44
  So,
• 29:44
  for
• 29:44
  example,
• 29:45
  the
• 29:45
  book
• 29:45
  opens
• 29:45
  up
• 29:46
  with
• 29:47
  scene.
• 29:48
  The
• 29:48
  mom
• 29:48
  is
• 29:48
  in
• 29:48
  the
• 29:49
  hospital
• 29:49
  birth.
• 29:50
  And
• 29:50
  it
• 29:50
  says
• 29:51
  how
• 29:51
  special
• 29:51
  you
• 29:51
  were.
• 29:52
  And
• 29:54
  that's
• 29:54
  a
• 29:54
  feeling
• 29:54
  that
• 29:55
  I
• 29:55
  had
• 29:55
  as
• 29:55
  a
• 29:55
  kid.
• 29:56
  So
• 29:56
  I
• 29:56
  was,
• 29:56
  like,
• 29:57
  replicating
• 29:58
  my
• 29:58
  own
• 29:59
  childhood
• 29:59
  experiences
• 30:00
  and
• 30:00
  how
• 30:00
  I
• 30:00
  felt.
• 30:01
  And
• 30:01
  I'll
• 30:01
  tell
• 30:01
  you
• 30:01
  another
• 30:02
  story.
• 30:02
  My
• 30:02
  parents
• 30:03
  passed
• 30:03
  away,
• 30:03
  as
• 30:04
  I
• 30:04
  mentioned,
• 30:04
  but
• 30:05
  as
• 30:05
  a
• 30:05
  kid,
• 30:05
  I
• 30:05
  had
• 30:06
  all
• 30:06
  these
• 30:06
  baby
• 30:06
  pictures.
• 30:07
  There's
• 30:08
  one
• 30:08
  baby
• 30:08
  picture
• 30:09
  the
• 30:09
  day
• 30:09
  that
• 30:10
  I
• 30:10
  came
• 30:10
  home
• 30:10
  from
• 30:10
  the
• 30:10
  hospital.
• 30:12
  And
• 30:12
  it.
• 30:13
  My
• 30:13
  parents.
• 30:14
  It
• 30:15
  was
• 30:15
  like
• 30:15
  my
• 30:15
  whole
• 30:15
  family,
• 30:16
  my
• 30:16
  parents,
• 30:16
  my
• 30:16
  grandparents,
• 30:18
  and
• 30:18
  everybody
• 30:19
  surrounding
• 30:19
  the
• 30:19
  baby.
• 30:20
  So
• 30:20
  I
• 30:20
  used
• 30:20
  that
• 30:21
  as
• 30:21
  inspiration
• 30:22
  for
• 30:23
  one
• 30:23
  of
• 30:23
  the
• 30:23
  opening
• 30:24
  pages
• 30:24
  when
• 30:24
  the
• 30:25
  mom.
• 30:25
  I'm
• 30:25
  looking
• 30:25
  at
• 30:26
  the.
• 30:26
  With
• 30:26
  the
• 30:27
  little
• 30:27
  sprout
• 30:27
  and
• 30:28
  the
• 30:28
  family
• 30:29
  around
• 30:29
  her.
• 30:30
  Yeah.
• 30:31
  And
• 30:31
  one
• 30:32
  part
• 30:32
  that
• 30:32
  I
• 30:32
  will
• 30:32
  say,
• 30:32
  that
• 30:33
  kind
• 30:33
  of
• 30:33
  makes
• 30:33
  me,
• 30:34
  like,
• 30:34
  sad.
• 30:34
  And
• 30:35
  this
• 30:35
  was
• 30:35
  the
• 30:35
  therapeutic
• 30:35
  part.
• 30:36
  Like,
• 30:37
  sometimes
• 30:38
  when
• 30:38
  a
• 30:38
  baby
• 30:39
  is
• 30:39
  born,
• 30:40
  everyone's
• 30:40
  so
• 30:41
  happy.
• 30:41
  Like,
• 30:41
  the
• 30:42
  friends
• 30:42
  come,
• 30:43
  family
• 30:43
  come.
• 30:43
  It's
• 30:44
  such
• 30:44
  a
• 30:44
  thing.
• 30:46
  But
• 30:46
  actually,
• 30:46
  all
• 30:47
  the
• 30:47
  people
• 30:47
  in
• 30:47
  that
• 30:47
  baby
• 30:48
  picture
• 30:48
  that
• 30:49
  I
• 30:49
  had,
• 30:50
  like,
• 30:50
  none
• 30:50
  of
• 30:51
  them
• 30:51
  were
• 30:51
  really,
• 30:51
  like,
• 30:51
  in
• 30:52
  my
• 30:52
  life,
• 30:52
  like,
• 30:52
  in
• 30:53
  my
• 30:53
  life
• 30:53
  as
• 30:53
  a
• 30:54
  child.
• 30:54
  It's
• 30:54
  just
• 30:54
  an
• 30:55
  interesting
• 30:55
  thing.
• 30:55
  Everybody's
• 30:56
  excited
• 30:56
  when
• 30:56
  the
• 30:56
  baby
• 30:57
  is
• 30:57
  born,
• 30:57
  but
• 30:57
  then
• 30:58
  who
• 30:58
  are
• 30:59
  the
• 30:59
  people
• 30:59
  actually
• 30:59
  supporting
• 31:00
  this
• 31:00
  child
• 31:00
  as
• 31:00
  it
• 31:01
  grows?
• 31:02
  And
• 31:02
  I
• 31:02
  just
• 31:02
  piggybacked
• 31:03
  off
• 31:03
  my
• 31:04
  own
• 31:04
  reflections
• 31:05
  and
• 31:06
  experiences.
• 31:07
  It's
• 31:07
  interesting,
• 31:07
  too,
• 31:08
  Jacqueline.
• 31:08
  Cuz
• 31:08
  I've
• 31:09
  talked
• 31:09
  to
• 31:09
  several
• 31:10
  children's
• 31:10
  book
• 31:11
  authors
• 31:11
  who
• 31:11
  have
• 31:12
  told
• 31:12
  me
• 31:13
  that
• 31:13
  writing
• 31:14
  a
• 31:14
  children's
• 31:15
  book
• 31:15
  was
• 31:15
  so
• 31:16
  great
• 31:16
  for
• 31:17
  their
• 31:17
  mental
• 31:17
  health.
• 31:18
  Yeah.
• 31:19
  So,
• 31:21
  yeah,
• 31:22
  absolutely.
• 31:23
  Talk
• 31:24
  to
• 31:24
  us
• 31:24
  about
• 31:24
  the
• 31:25
  theme
• 31:26
  of
• 31:26
  your
• 31:26
  book.
• 31:28
  Okay.
• 31:29
  So
• 31:29
  the
• 31:30
  theme
• 31:30
  is,
• 31:31
  you
• 31:31
  will
• 31:32
  be
• 31:32
  okay.
• 31:33
  Like,
• 31:34
  these
• 31:34
  bad
• 31:34
  things
• 31:35
  happen,
• 31:36
  but
• 31:36
  it
• 31:36
  doesn't
• 31:37
  have
• 31:37
  to
• 31:37
  define
• 31:38
  you.
• 31:38
  And
• 31:39
  you
• 31:39
  can
• 31:39
  sprout.
• 31:40
  And
• 31:40
  I
• 31:40
  can
• 31:40
  tell
• 31:40
  you
• 31:40
  where
• 31:41
  that
• 31:41
  came
• 31:41
  from,
• 31:41
  interestingly.
• 31:43
  So
• 31:43
  I
• 31:44
  was
• 31:44
  in
• 31:44
  therapy
• 31:44
  with
• 31:45
  my
• 31:45
  psychologist,
• 31:47
  and
• 31:47
  my
• 31:47
  grandmother
• 31:48
  passed,
• 31:48
  and
• 31:49
  I'm
• 31:49
  dealing
• 31:50
  with
• 31:50
  this
• 31:50
  family
• 31:50
  member,
• 31:51
  and
• 31:51
  I
• 31:51
  felt
• 31:52
  abuse
• 31:53
  is
• 31:53
  terrible
• 31:53
  in
• 31:53
  A
• 31:53
  sense
• 31:54
  that
• 31:54
  it
• 31:54
  makes
• 31:54
  you
• 31:54
  feel
• 31:55
  crushed.
• 31:55
  Like,
• 31:56
  I.
• 31:56
  I
• 31:56
  felt
• 31:56
  100%
• 31:57
  crushed,
• 31:58
  like
• 31:58
  my
• 31:58
  life
• 31:58
  was
• 31:58
  over.
• 31:59
  That's
• 31:59
  how
• 31:59
  I
• 31:59
  felt
• 32:00
  in
• 32:00
  dealing
• 32:00
  with
• 32:00
  her.
• 32:02
  But
• 32:02
  there
• 32:02
  was,
• 32:02
  like,
• 32:03
  a
• 32:03
  little
• 32:03
  part
• 32:03
  of
• 32:03
  me
• 32:04
  that
• 32:04
  I
• 32:04
  still
• 32:04
  felt
• 32:04
  the
• 32:05
  spark
• 32:05
  of,
• 32:05
  like
• 32:06
  old
• 32:06
  Jackie.
• 32:07
  And
• 32:08
  so
• 32:08
  I
• 32:08
  told
• 32:08
  her
• 32:08
  that.
• 32:09
  I
• 32:10
  said,
• 32:10
  I
• 32:10
  still
• 32:10
  feel
• 32:10
  a
• 32:10
  little
• 32:11
  part
• 32:11
  of
• 32:11
  me,
• 32:11
  but
• 32:11
  it's
• 32:12
  just
• 32:12
  so
• 32:12
  small.
• 32:13
  And
• 32:13
  so
• 32:13
  her
• 32:14
  response
• 32:14
  to
• 32:14
  me
• 32:14
  was
• 32:15
  like,
• 32:15
  you
• 32:15
  can
• 32:15
  make
• 32:16
  that
• 32:16
  grow.
• 32:17
  She
• 32:17
  said,
• 32:17
  if
• 32:17
  you
• 32:18
  feel
• 32:18
  that,
• 32:18
  you
• 32:18
  can
• 32:18
  make
• 32:18
  that
• 32:19
  grow.
• 32:19
  And
• 32:20
  so
• 32:20
  that's
• 32:20
  where
• 32:20
  I
• 32:20
  came
• 32:21
  up
• 32:21
  with
• 32:21
  this
• 32:21
  concept
• 32:22
  of
• 32:22
  a
• 32:22
  broken
• 32:23
  twig
• 32:23
  can
• 32:23
  sprout,
• 32:24
  it
• 32:24
  can
• 32:24
  grow
• 32:24
  again.
• 32:25
  And
• 32:26
  so
• 32:26
  that's
• 32:27
  pretty
• 32:27
  much
• 32:27
  the
• 32:27
  theme
• 32:28
  of
• 32:28
  the
• 32:28
  book,
• 32:28
  that
• 32:29
  someone
• 32:29
  who
• 32:29
  feels
• 32:30
  broken
• 32:30
  emotionally
• 32:31
  inside
• 32:32
  can
• 32:32
  grow
• 32:34
  if
• 32:34
  they
• 32:34
  have
• 32:34
  the
• 32:35
  right
• 32:35
  support
• 32:35
  system.
• 32:36
  That's
• 32:37
  what
• 32:37
  you
• 32:37
  see
• 32:37
  the
• 32:37
  teacher
• 32:38
  in
• 32:38
  school.
• 32:39
  There's
• 32:39
  other
• 32:40
  people
• 32:40
  who
• 32:40
  are
• 32:40
  in
• 32:40
  this
• 32:41
  child's
• 32:41
  life
• 32:41
  that
• 32:43
  are
• 32:43
  not
• 32:43
  the
• 32:43
  family
• 32:44
  member,
• 32:44
  but
• 32:44
  they
• 32:45
  play
• 32:46
  a
• 32:46
  very
• 32:46
  important
• 32:47
  role
• 32:47
  in
• 32:47
  helping
• 32:48
  her
• 32:48
  to
• 32:49
  be
• 32:49
  whole.
• 32:50
  Yeah,
• 32:52
  the
• 32:52
  central
• 32:52
  teaching
• 32:53
  in
• 32:53
  terms
• 32:53
  of
• 32:54
  the
• 32:54
  adverse
• 32:55
  childhood
• 32:56
  experiences.
• 32:57
  Talk
• 32:58
  to
• 32:58
  us
• 32:58
  about
• 32:58
  how
• 32:59
  you're
• 32:59
  going
• 32:59
  to
• 33:00
  roll
• 33:01
  that
• 33:01
  into
• 33:02
  the
• 33:02
  central
• 33:02
  teaching
• 33:04
  when
• 33:04
  I
• 33:04
  do
• 33:04
  the
• 33:04
  workbook.
• 33:05
  Yes.
• 33:06
  I'm
• 33:06
  in
• 33:07
  the
• 33:07
  Doctorate
• 33:07
  of
• 33:07
  Nursing
• 33:08
  program
• 33:08
  right
• 33:08
  now.
• 33:09
  And
• 33:10
  so
• 33:10
  last
• 33:11
  semester,
• 33:11
  there
• 33:11
  was
• 33:12
  another
• 33:12
  young
• 33:13
  man
• 33:13
  in
• 33:13
  my
• 33:14
  class.
• 33:15
  We're
• 33:15
  in
• 33:15
  different
• 33:16
  aspects
• 33:17
  of
• 33:17
  the
• 33:17
  program,
• 33:17
  but
• 33:17
  so
• 33:17
  he's
• 33:18
  in
• 33:18
  a
• 33:18
  psych
• 33:18
  program.
• 33:19
  And
• 33:19
  so
• 33:20
  we
• 33:20
  worked
• 33:20
  together.
• 33:21
  And
• 33:22
  it
• 33:22
  came
• 33:22
  to
• 33:23
  my
• 33:23
  mind
• 33:23
  recently,
• 33:23
  I
• 33:23
  said,
• 33:24
  maybe
• 33:24
  I
• 33:24
  should
• 33:25
  ask
• 33:25
  him
• 33:25
  to
• 33:25
  help
• 33:26
  me
• 33:26
  develop
• 33:27
  the
• 33:27
  medical
• 33:27
  portion
• 33:28
  of
• 33:28
  it,
• 33:28
  because
• 33:29
  anything
• 33:29
  that
• 33:29
  has
• 33:30
  to
• 33:30
  do
• 33:30
  with
• 33:30
  clinical
• 33:30
  practice,
• 33:31
  you
• 33:31
  want
• 33:31
  to
• 33:31
  have
• 33:31
  evidence.
• 33:32
  So
• 33:33
  right
• 33:33
  now
• 33:33
  he's
• 33:33
  working
• 33:33
  with
• 33:34
  me
• 33:34
  on
• 33:34
  presenting
• 33:35
  the
• 33:35
  evidence.
• 33:37
  What
• 33:37
  happens
• 33:37
  to
• 33:37
  a
• 33:37
  child's
• 33:38
  brain
• 33:38
  when
• 33:38
  they're
• 33:39
  abused
• 33:40
  in
• 33:40
  their
• 33:40
  body?
• 33:42
  Toxic
• 33:43
  stress
• 33:43
  is
• 33:43
  a
• 33:43
  term
• 33:44
  that
• 33:44
  they
• 33:44
  use
• 33:44
  often,
• 33:45
  that
• 33:46
  cortisol,
• 33:47
  all
• 33:47
  these
• 33:47
  hormones
• 33:48
  that
• 33:48
  are
• 33:48
  released,
• 33:49
  have
• 33:49
  a
• 33:49
  very
• 33:49
  negative
• 33:49
  effect
• 33:50
  on
• 33:50
  a
• 33:50
  child's
• 33:51
  health
• 33:51
  and
• 33:51
  mental
• 33:51
  health.
• 33:52
  So
• 33:52
  he's
• 33:53
  helping
• 33:53
  me
• 33:53
  develop
• 33:53
  the
• 33:54
  clinical
• 33:54
  portion,
• 33:55
  But
• 33:55
  I
• 33:56
  also
• 33:56
  want
• 33:56
  it
• 33:56
  to
• 33:56
  be
• 33:56
  very
• 33:57
  relatable
• 33:58
  to
• 33:58
  just
• 33:59
  an
• 33:59
  average
• 33:59
  person
• 34:00
  who
• 34:00
  doesn't
• 34:00
  know
• 34:01
  the
• 34:01
  medical
• 34:01
  terms.
• 34:02
  Right
• 34:02
  now
• 34:03
  I'm
• 34:03
  in
• 34:03
  a
• 34:03
  creative
• 34:03
  writing
• 34:04
  process
• 34:04
  of
• 34:05
  basically
• 34:06
  sharing
• 34:07
  different
• 34:08
  examples
• 34:08
  of
• 34:10
  child
• 34:10
  abuse,
• 34:11
  what
• 34:11
  a
• 34:11
  child
• 34:12
  might
• 34:12
  be
• 34:12
  feeling
• 34:13
  and
• 34:14
  then
• 34:14
  how
• 34:14
  you
• 34:14
  can
• 34:14
  help,
• 34:15
  and
• 34:15
  then
• 34:15
  also
• 34:15
  behavior
• 34:16
  cues.
• 34:17
  So,
• 34:18
  for
• 34:18
  example,
• 34:19
  when
• 34:19
  I
• 34:19
  was
• 34:19
  young,
• 34:19
  I
• 34:19
  cried
• 34:20
  a
• 34:20
  lot.
• 34:21
  And
• 34:22
  to
• 34:23
  the
• 34:23
  family
• 34:23
  member
• 34:23
  that
• 34:24
  was
• 34:24
  abusive,
• 34:24
  she
• 34:25
  didn't
• 34:25
  understand
• 34:25
  why
• 34:25
  I
• 34:25
  was
• 34:25
  crying.
• 34:26
  So
• 34:26
  it
• 34:26
  would
• 34:26
  make
• 34:26
  her
• 34:26
  angry.
• 34:28
  She
• 34:28
  would
• 34:28
  get
• 34:28
  angry
• 34:29
  and
• 34:30
  lash
• 34:30
  out.
• 34:31
  And
• 34:32
  just
• 34:33
  her
• 34:33
  response
• 34:33
  was
• 34:34
  like,
• 34:34
  you're
• 34:34
  bad.
• 34:34
  Like,
• 34:35
  you're
• 34:35
  a
• 34:35
  bad
• 34:35
  kid.
• 34:36
  You're
• 34:36
  always
• 34:36
  crying.
• 34:37
  There's
• 34:37
  nothing
• 34:37
  that
• 34:38
  we
• 34:38
  could
• 34:38
  do
• 34:38
  to
• 34:38
  satisfy
• 34:39
  you.
• 34:40
  But
• 34:40
  actually
• 34:40
  I
• 34:41
  was
• 34:41
  crying
• 34:41
  because
• 34:41
  I
• 34:42
  just
• 34:42
  wanted
• 34:42
  her
• 34:42
  attention.
• 34:44
  I
• 34:44
  just
• 34:44
  wanted
• 34:44
  her
• 34:44
  to
• 34:45
  hug
• 34:45
  me.
• 34:45
  And
• 34:46
  so
• 34:46
  now
• 34:46
  that
• 34:46
  I
• 34:46
  understand,
• 34:47
  sometimes
• 34:47
  adults
• 34:48
  don't
• 34:48
  understand
• 34:48
  that.
• 34:49
  They
• 34:49
  don't
• 34:49
  understand
• 34:50
  that
• 34:50
  this
• 34:50
  behavior
• 34:51
  is
• 34:51
  not
• 34:52
  bad.
• 34:53
  Like
• 34:53
  something
• 34:53
  is
• 34:54
  wrong
• 34:54
  with
• 34:54
  the
• 34:54
  kid.
• 34:54
  If
• 34:55
  they're
• 34:55
  crying
• 34:56
  or
• 34:56
  if
• 34:57
  they're
• 34:57
  misbehaving,
• 34:59
  something
• 34:59
  is
• 34:59
  going
• 35:00
  on.
• 35:01
  So
• 35:01
  the
• 35:01
  workbook
• 35:01
  is
• 35:02
  designed
• 35:02
  to
• 35:02
  help
• 35:02
  him
• 35:02
  to
• 35:03
  dig
• 35:03
  deeper
• 35:03
  and
• 35:03
  see
• 35:04
  what.
• 35:04
  What
• 35:04
  is
• 35:05
  going
• 35:05
  on?
• 35:05
  What
• 35:05
  can
• 35:05
  I
• 35:06
  do
• 35:06
  to
• 35:06
  help?
• 35:07
  Terrific.
• 35:07
  And
• 35:08
  it's
• 35:08
  interesting
• 35:08
  to
• 35:08
  say
• 35:09
  that
• 35:09
  because
• 35:09
  some
• 35:10
  people
• 35:10
  I
• 35:10
  think
• 35:10
  about
• 35:11
  my
• 35:11
  dad's
• 35:11
  mom
• 35:12
  and
• 35:12
  dad,
• 35:13
  they
• 35:13
  were
• 35:14
  not
• 35:14
  very
• 35:14
  affectionate
• 35:15
  people.
• 35:16
  They
• 35:16
  were
• 35:16
  nice,
• 35:17
  but
• 35:17
  they
• 35:17
  weren't
• 35:18
  like
• 35:18
  my
• 35:19
  mom's
• 35:19
  mom,
• 35:20
  very
• 35:20
  affectionate,
• 35:21
  very
• 35:22
  engaged
• 35:23
  all
• 35:23
  the
• 35:23
  time.
• 35:24
  Like,
• 35:24
  we
• 35:24
  got
• 35:25
  lots
• 35:25
  of
• 35:25
  attention,
• 35:26
  but
• 35:26
  if
• 35:26
  we
• 35:27
  went
• 35:27
  over
• 35:27
  to
• 35:27
  my
• 35:28
  dad's
• 35:29
  mom
• 35:29
  and
• 35:29
  dad's,
• 35:30
  it
• 35:30
  just
• 35:30
  wasn't
• 35:30
  the
• 35:31
  same.
• 35:31
  They
• 35:31
  just
• 35:31
  weren't
• 35:32
  engaged
• 35:33
  as
• 35:33
  much.
• 35:34
  It's
• 35:34
  funny
• 35:34
  how
• 35:35
  people
• 35:36
  handle
• 35:38
  or
• 35:38
  don't
• 35:38
  handle
• 35:39
  the
• 35:39
  situation.
• 35:41
  And
• 35:41
  oftentimes,
• 35:42
  like,
• 35:42
  here's
• 35:42
  something
• 35:43
  that
• 35:43
  I
• 35:43
  learned
• 35:43
  a
• 35:43
  lot
• 35:43
  in
• 35:44
  my
• 35:44
  therapy
• 35:44
  too,
• 35:44
  like
• 35:45
  this
• 35:45
  aspect
• 35:46
  of
• 35:46
  generational
• 35:46
  trauma.
• 35:48
  Oftentimes
• 35:48
  adults
• 35:49
  will
• 35:49
  repeat
• 35:49
  the
• 35:49
  behavior
• 35:50
  of
• 35:50
  how
• 35:50
  they
• 35:50
  were
• 35:51
  treated
• 35:51
  when
• 35:51
  they
• 35:51
  were
• 35:51
  a
• 35:51
  child.
• 35:52
  And
• 35:53
  I
• 35:53
  hope
• 35:53
  we
• 35:53
  can
• 35:53
  get
• 35:53
  to
• 35:53
  a
• 35:54
  point
• 35:54
  where
• 35:54
  we
• 35:54
  segrate
• 35:55
  that
• 35:55
  because
• 35:56
  the
• 35:57
  older
• 35:57
  generation,
• 35:57
  they
• 35:58
  believe
• 35:58
  they
• 35:59
  hugged
• 35:59
  you
• 35:59
  too
• 36:00
  much,
• 36:00
  they
• 36:00
  were
• 36:00
  spoiling
• 36:01
  you,
• 36:01
  like,
• 36:01
  felt
• 36:02
  like
• 36:02
  it
• 36:02
  was
• 36:02
  a
• 36:02
  bad
• 36:02
  thing.
• 36:03
  And
• 36:03
  it's
• 36:04
  no
• 36:04
  like
• 36:04
  children
• 36:04
  actually
• 36:05
  thrive
• 36:06
  off
• 36:07
  of
• 36:07
  being
• 36:07
  loved
• 36:08
  and
• 36:08
  touched
• 36:08
  and
• 36:08
  hung.
• 36:09
  So
• 36:09
  there's
• 36:09
  a
• 36:09
  knowledge
• 36:10
  gap
• 36:10
  there.
• 36:11
  Absolutely.
• 36:12
  And
• 36:13
  like
• 36:13
  I
• 36:13
  said
• 36:14
  to
• 36:14
  you,
• 36:14
  I
• 36:14
  lived
• 36:14
  through
• 36:14
  it
• 36:15
  from
• 36:15
  my
• 36:15
  dad's
• 36:15
  mom
• 36:16
  and
• 36:16
  dad.
• 36:16
  When
• 36:16
  you
• 36:17
  talk
• 36:17
  about.
• 36:18
  Now
• 36:18
  that
• 36:18
  you're
• 36:19
  working
• 36:19
  on
• 36:19
  your
• 36:19
  second
• 36:19
  book,
• 36:20
  I'm
• 36:20
  very
• 36:20
  interested
• 36:21
  in
• 36:21
  knowing
• 36:22
  about
• 36:22
  your
• 36:22
  writing
• 36:23
  process.
• 36:23
  So
• 36:24
  can
• 36:24
  you
• 36:24
  give
• 36:24
  us
• 36:24
  some
• 36:24
  insights
• 36:25
  into
• 36:26
  your
• 36:26
  writing
• 36:27
  development
• 36:27
  and
• 36:28
  your
• 36:28
  writing
• 36:28
  process
• 36:29
  for
• 36:29
  your
• 36:30
  next
• 36:30
  book?
• 36:31
  I'm
• 36:31
  actually
• 36:31
  writing
• 36:32
  it
• 36:32
  from
• 36:32
  memories.
• 36:33
  So
• 36:34
  for
• 36:34
  example,
• 36:35
  this
• 36:35
  second
• 36:35
  book
• 36:35
  that
• 36:35
  I'm
• 36:36
  writing,
• 36:37
  it's
• 36:38
  relating
• 36:39
  experience
• 36:39
  that
• 36:39
  I've
• 36:40
  had
• 36:40
  of
• 36:40
  my
• 36:41
  mom.
• 36:42
  Cause
• 36:42
  my
• 36:43
  grandmother
• 36:43
  sent
• 36:43
  me
• 36:43
  when
• 36:44
  I
• 36:44
  was
• 36:44
  six
• 36:44
  months
• 36:44
  old.
• 36:45
  And
• 36:46
  then
• 36:46
  my
• 36:46
  mom
• 36:47
  passed
• 36:47
  when
• 36:47
  I
• 36:47
  was
• 36:47
  seven.
• 36:48
  So
• 36:48
  during
• 36:48
  those
• 36:48
  seven
• 36:49
  years
• 36:49
  she
• 36:49
  was
• 36:49
  in
• 36:49
  the
• 36:50
  street.
• 36:51
  But
• 36:51
  my
• 36:51
  grandmother
• 36:52
  was
• 36:52
  such
• 36:52
  a
• 36:52
  loving
• 36:52
  person.
• 36:53
  So
• 36:53
  sometimes
• 36:53
  my
• 36:54
  mom
• 36:55
  would
• 36:55
  come
• 36:56
  to
• 36:56
  her
• 36:56
  house
• 36:57
  dirty,
• 36:57
  like
• 36:58
  hungry,
• 36:59
  and
• 36:59
  my
• 36:59
  grandmother
• 36:59
  would
• 37:00
  let
• 37:00
  her
• 37:00
  in
• 37:00
  just.
• 37:00
  Just
• 37:01
  so
• 37:01
  she
• 37:01
  could
• 37:01
  take
• 37:01
  a
• 37:02
  shower
• 37:03
  to
• 37:03
  eat.
• 37:04
  I'm
• 37:04
  writing
• 37:05
  the
• 37:05
  story
• 37:05
  based
• 37:06
  on
• 37:06
  like
• 37:06
  how
• 37:06
  I
• 37:07
  remember
• 37:07
  it
• 37:07
  as
• 37:07
  a
• 37:07
  child.
• 37:08
  Just
• 37:08
  that
• 37:08
  confusion
• 37:09
  of
• 37:10
  what
• 37:10
  does
• 37:11
  this
• 37:11
  mean?
• 37:11
  What
• 37:11
  does
• 37:11
  this
• 37:11
  mean?
• 37:12
  That
• 37:12
  my
• 37:12
  mom
• 37:12
  is
• 37:13
  on
• 37:13
  drugs.
• 37:13
  And
• 37:13
  sometimes
• 37:14
  she
• 37:14
  come
• 37:14
  and
• 37:15
  then
• 37:15
  sometimes
• 37:15
  she
• 37:15
  would
• 37:15
  tell
• 37:16
  Me,
• 37:16
  I'm
• 37:16
  gonna
• 37:16
  come
• 37:16
  Tom
• 37:17
  girl
• 37:18
  after
• 37:18
  school.
• 37:18
  And
• 37:18
  then
• 37:19
  she
• 37:19
  wouldn't
• 37:19
  come.
• 37:20
  So
• 37:21
  I'm
• 37:21
  really
• 37:21
  writing
• 37:22
  just
• 37:22
  from
• 37:22
  my
• 37:22
  experience,
• 37:23
  because
• 37:23
  I
• 37:23
  feel
• 37:24
  like
• 37:25
  some
• 37:26
  things,
• 37:27
  people
• 37:28
  just.
• 37:28
  You
• 37:28
  won't
• 37:29
  understand
• 37:29
  it
• 37:29
  unless
• 37:29
  you've
• 37:30
  been
• 37:30
  through
• 37:30
  it.
• 37:30
  Like,
• 37:30
  you
• 37:31
  just.
• 37:31
  You
• 37:31
  wouldn't.
• 37:32
  And
• 37:32
  so
• 37:32
  I
• 37:32
  feel
• 37:33
  like
• 37:33
  for
• 37:33
  all
• 37:33
  the
• 37:34
  other
• 37:34
  children
• 37:34
  who
• 37:34
  are
• 37:35
  out
• 37:35
  there
• 37:35
  who
• 37:35
  have
• 37:35
  a
• 37:35
  parent
• 37:36
  that
• 37:36
  is
• 37:36
  addicted
• 37:37
  to
• 37:37
  some
• 37:37
  type
• 37:37
  of
• 37:37
  drug
• 37:38
  or
• 37:38
  alcohol
• 37:39
  reading
• 37:39
  it,
• 37:40
  they'll
• 37:40
  understand.
• 37:41
  Yes,
• 37:41
  they'll
• 37:42
  understand.
• 37:42
  They'll
• 37:43
  understand
• 37:43
  right
• 37:43
  away.
• 37:44
  Because
• 37:44
  if
• 37:45
  you
• 37:45
  didn't
• 37:45
  have
• 37:45
  that
• 37:45
  perspective,
• 37:46
  we
• 37:46
  can't
• 37:47
  explain
• 37:47
  it.
• 37:47
  Yeah.
• 37:48
  So
• 37:48
  I'm
• 37:48
  writing
• 37:49
  from
• 37:49
  memories.
• 37:49
  And
• 37:50
  sometimes
• 37:50
  it
• 37:51
  happens
• 37:51
  in
• 37:52
  childhood,
• 37:53
  like
• 37:53
  it
• 37:53
  happened
• 37:53
  to
• 37:53
  you.
• 37:54
  And
• 37:54
  then
• 37:55
  sometimes
• 37:55
  it
• 37:55
  even
• 37:56
  happens
• 37:56
  later
• 37:56
  in
• 37:57
  life.
• 37:57
  Like,
• 37:57
  I
• 37:57
  know
• 37:57
  my
• 37:58
  wife's
• 37:59
  father.
• 38:00
  He
• 38:01
  left
• 38:02
  his
• 38:02
  wife
• 38:03
  and
• 38:03
  three
• 38:03
  daughters
• 38:04
  when
• 38:05
  they
• 38:05
  were
• 38:05
  adults,
• 38:06
  but
• 38:07
  they
• 38:07
  didn't
• 38:08
  ever
• 38:08
  see
• 38:08
  him
• 38:08
  again
• 38:09
  and
• 38:09
  only
• 38:09
  found
• 38:10
  out
• 38:10
  about
• 38:10
  his
• 38:10
  passing
• 38:11
  in
• 38:11
  the
• 38:11
  newspaper.
• 38:13
  And
• 38:13
  so
• 38:14
  it's
• 38:14
  quite
• 38:14
  interesting.
• 38:15
  I
• 38:15
  guess
• 38:15
  it
• 38:15
  can
• 38:16
  happen
• 38:16
  at
• 38:16
  any
• 38:16
  time,
• 38:17
  but
• 38:17
  it
• 38:17
  can
• 38:17
  still
• 38:18
  have
• 38:18
  trauma
• 38:18
  on
• 38:18
  you,
• 38:19
  even
• 38:19
  if
• 38:19
  you're
• 38:19
  an
• 38:19
  adult.
• 38:21
  Yeah.
• 38:21
  And
• 38:21
  so
• 38:21
  one
• 38:22
  thing
• 38:22
  I
• 38:22
  want
• 38:22
  to
• 38:22
  say
• 38:23
  about
• 38:23
  my
• 38:24
  book
• 38:25
  is
• 38:26
  I
• 38:26
  don't
• 38:27
  feel
• 38:27
  like
• 38:27
  it's
• 38:27
  a
• 38:27
  traditional
• 38:29
  children's
• 38:29
  book,
• 38:30
  in
• 38:30
  a
• 38:31
  sense
• 38:31
  that
• 38:31
  you
• 38:31
  sit
• 38:31
  a
• 38:32
  small
• 38:32
  child
• 38:32
  down
• 38:32
  and
• 38:33
  they'll
• 38:33
  be
• 38:33
  able
• 38:33
  to
• 38:33
  understand.
• 38:34
  And
• 38:34
  this
• 38:34
  is
• 38:35
  something
• 38:35
  that
• 38:35
  I
• 38:35
  explained
• 38:35
  on
• 38:36
  my
• 38:36
  website.
• 38:37
  I
• 38:37
  explained
• 38:38
  that
• 38:38
  I'm
• 38:38
  trying
• 38:38
  to
• 38:38
  write
• 38:39
  to
• 38:39
  the
• 38:39
  little
• 38:39
  boy
• 38:39
  and
• 38:40
  the
• 38:40
  little
• 38:40
  girl
• 38:40
  inside
• 38:42
  so
• 38:42
  that
• 38:42
  even
• 38:43
  if
• 38:43
  you're
• 38:43
  an
• 38:43
  adult,
• 38:44
  you
• 38:44
  will
• 38:45
  understand
• 38:45
  these
• 38:45
  feelings
• 38:46
  that
• 38:46
  maybe
• 38:46
  you
• 38:46
  felt
• 38:47
  in
• 38:47
  childhood.
• 38:48
  And
• 38:48
  so
• 38:48
  that's
• 38:48
  who
• 38:49
  I'm
• 38:49
  trying
• 38:49
  to
• 38:49
  reach
• 38:49
  because.
• 38:50
  Because
• 38:50
  many
• 38:50
  of.
• 38:51
  A
• 38:51
  lot
• 38:51
  of
• 38:51
  us
• 38:52
  are
• 38:53
  walking
• 38:53
  around
• 38:53
  with
• 38:54
  unhealed
• 38:55
  childhood
• 38:55
  wounds.
• 38:56
  You
• 38:57
  know
• 38:57
  what,
• 38:57
  Jacqueline?
• 38:57
  You
• 38:58
  hit
• 38:58
  it
• 38:58
  right
• 38:58
  on
• 38:58
  the
• 38:58
  button.
• 38:58
  I
• 38:59
  have
• 38:59
  to
• 38:59
  tell
• 38:59
  you
• 38:59
  this.
• 38:59
  And
• 39:00
  it
• 39:00
  was
• 39:00
  one.
• 39:00
  One
• 39:01
  of
• 39:01
  my
• 39:01
  first
• 39:01
  guests,
• 39:02
  and
• 39:03
  her
• 39:03
  name's
• 39:04
  Chelsea
• 39:04
  Kim,
• 39:04
  episode
• 39:05
  12.
• 39:05
  And
• 39:05
  she
• 39:06
  wrote
• 39:06
  Carol
• 39:06
  the
• 39:07
  carrot
• 39:08
  bowls
• 39:08
  for
• 39:08
  the
• 39:08
  salad
• 39:09
  bowl.
• 39:09
  What
• 39:09
  was
• 39:09
  interesting
• 39:10
  about
• 39:10
  her
• 39:10
  is
• 39:11
  she
• 39:11
  was
• 39:11
  telling
• 39:11
  me
• 39:12
  when
• 39:12
  she
• 39:12
  would
• 39:12
  do
• 39:13
  book
• 39:13
  readings
• 39:14
  and
• 39:15
  there
• 39:15
  was
• 39:15
  adults
• 39:16
  present
• 39:17
  in
• 39:17
  the
• 39:17
  book
• 39:17
  reading.
• 39:19
  After
• 39:19
  she
• 39:19
  did
• 39:19
  the
• 39:20
  book
• 39:20
  reading,
• 39:20
  a
• 39:20
  lot
• 39:20
  of
• 39:21
  times
• 39:22
  adults
• 39:23
  would
• 39:23
  come
• 39:23
  up
• 39:23
  to
• 39:23
  her
• 39:24
  and
• 39:24
  say,
• 39:24
  you
• 39:25
  know
• 39:25
  what?
• 39:25
  That's
• 39:26
  me.
• 39:26
  As
• 39:26
  a
• 39:26
  child,
• 39:27
  even
• 39:27
  though
• 39:27
  they
• 39:27
  were
• 39:28
  like
• 39:28
  30,
• 39:28
  40,
• 39:29
  50,
• 39:30
  they
• 39:30
  were
• 39:30
  seeing
• 39:31
  themselves
• 39:31
  through
• 39:31
  the
• 39:32
  children's
• 39:32
  book.
• 39:33
  And
• 39:34
  you
• 39:34
  know
• 39:34
  what?
• 39:35
  We
• 39:35
  do
• 39:35
  carry
• 39:35
  those
• 39:36
  memories.
• 39:36
  For
• 39:36
  sure,
• 39:37
  you're
• 39:37
  going
• 39:37
  to
• 39:37
  find
• 39:38
  that
• 39:38
  as
• 39:38
  you
• 39:38
  do
• 39:38
  more
• 39:39
  book
• 39:39
  readings,
• 39:39
  too,
• 39:40
  is
• 39:40
  you're
• 39:41
  going
• 39:41
  to
• 39:41
  get
• 39:41
  adults
• 39:42
  coming
• 39:42
  up
• 39:42
  to
• 39:42
  you,
• 39:42
  and
• 39:42
  they're
• 39:43
  going
• 39:43
  to
• 39:43
  be
• 39:43
  saying,
• 39:43
  jacqueline.
• 39:45
  Oh,
• 39:46
  there
• 39:46
  you
• 39:46
  go.
• 39:47
  As
• 39:47
  children's
• 39:48
  book
• 39:48
  authors,
• 39:49
  I
• 39:49
  guess
• 39:49
  what
• 39:49
  I
• 39:49
  try
• 39:50
  to
• 39:50
  get
• 39:50
  out.
• 39:50
  Is
• 39:51
  that
• 39:51
  if
• 39:51
  you're
• 39:51
  listening
• 39:52
  to
• 39:52
  Jacqueline
• 39:52
  or
• 39:52
  you've
• 39:53
  listened
• 39:53
  to
• 39:53
  other
• 39:54
  guests
• 39:54
  that
• 39:55
  we've
• 39:55
  had
• 39:55
  on
• 39:55
  our
• 39:55
  show,
• 39:56
  you
• 39:56
  know
• 39:57
  what
• 39:57
  people
• 39:58
  really
• 39:59
  do
• 39:59
  see
• 39:59
  the
• 39:59
  as
• 40:00
  adults
• 40:00
  do
• 40:00
  see
• 40:01
  themselves
• 40:02
  reflected
• 40:03
  in
• 40:03
  children's
• 40:04
  books,
• 40:04
  don't
• 40:04
  be
• 40:04
  afraid
• 40:05
  to
• 40:05
  go
• 40:05
  pick
• 40:05
  one
• 40:06
  up
• 40:06
  every
• 40:07
  once
• 40:07
  in
• 40:07
  a
• 40:07
  while.
• 40:08
  Definitely.
• 40:09
  I
• 40:09
  had
• 40:09
  one
• 40:09
  young
• 40:10
  lady
• 40:10
  text
• 40:11
  me,
• 40:11
  and
• 40:11
  she
• 40:11
  just
• 40:11
  text
• 40:12
  me,
• 40:12
  thank
• 40:12
  you,
• 40:12
  Jackie.
• 40:14
  And
• 40:14
  I
• 40:14
  was
• 40:14
  like,
• 40:14
  thank
• 40:15
  you
• 40:15
  for
• 40:15
  what
• 40:16
  she
• 40:16
  said.
• 40:17
  You
• 40:17
  reached
• 40:18
  little
• 40:18
  Michelle.
• 40:20
  And
• 40:20
  I
• 40:20
  was
• 40:20
  like,
• 40:21
  wow.
• 40:21
  I
• 40:22
  was
• 40:22
  in.
• 40:22
  So
• 40:22
  touched.
• 40:23
  Like
• 40:23
  she
• 40:23
  said,
• 40:23
  like
• 40:24
  they
• 40:24
  place
• 40:24
  in
• 40:24
  her
• 40:25
  heart
• 40:25
  that
• 40:25
  was
• 40:25
  so
• 40:25
  unhealthy
• 40:26
  childhood
• 40:27
  and
• 40:29
  touched
• 40:29
  that
• 40:29
  place.
• 40:30
  It's
• 40:30
  so
• 40:30
  terrific
• 40:31
  when
• 40:31
  the
• 40:31
  words
• 40:31
  you
• 40:32
  that
• 40:32
  you
• 40:32
  wrote
• 40:33
  have
• 40:33
  impact
• 40:34
  on
• 40:34
  people
• 40:34
  you've
• 40:34
  never
• 40:35
  met
• 40:36
  and
• 40:36
  then
• 40:36
  they
• 40:36
  reach
• 40:36
  out
• 40:37
  to
• 40:37
  you.
• 40:37
  Jacqueline,
• 40:38
  when
• 40:38
  you
• 40:38
  started,
• 40:39
  and
• 40:39
  I
• 40:39
  know
• 40:40
  we
• 40:40
  talked
• 40:40
  about
• 40:40
  your
• 40:40
  book
• 40:41
  business,
• 40:41
  but
• 40:41
  I
• 40:42
  want
• 40:42
  to
• 40:42
  delve
• 40:42
  deeper
• 40:43
  into
• 40:44
  your
• 40:44
  initial
• 40:45
  ideas
• 40:46
  about
• 40:47
  what
• 40:47
  success
• 40:48
  being
• 40:48
  a
• 40:48
  children's
• 40:49
  book
• 40:49
  authority
• 40:50
  look
• 40:50
  like
• 40:50
  to
• 40:51
  you
• 40:51
  and
• 40:51
  what
• 40:52
  does
• 40:52
  it
• 40:52
  look
• 40:52
  like
• 40:53
  now?
• 40:53
  So
• 40:53
  take
• 40:54
  us
• 40:54
  back
• 40:54
  to,
• 40:55
  you
• 40:55
  know,
• 40:56
  your
• 40:56
  first
• 40:56
  thought
• 40:57
  about
• 40:57
  success
• 40:58
  as
• 40:58
  a
• 40:58
  children's
• 40:59
  book
• 40:59
  author.
• 41:00
  And
• 41:00
  has
• 41:00
  that
• 41:00
  changed
• 41:01
  over
• 41:01
  the
• 41:01
  last
• 41:01
  little
• 41:02
  while?
• 41:03
  I
• 41:03
  don't
• 41:04
  think
• 41:04
  it
• 41:04
  changed
• 41:05
  that
• 41:05
  much.
• 41:06
  Well,
• 41:06
  my
• 41:06
  dream
• 41:07
  would
• 41:07
  be,
• 41:08
  like,
• 41:08
  my
• 41:08
  absolute
• 41:09
  dream
• 41:09
  would
• 41:10
  be
• 41:12
  my
• 41:12
  book.
• 41:12
  This
• 41:13
  book,
• 41:13
  any
• 41:13
  substance
• 41:14
  book,
• 41:15
  is
• 41:15
  recognized
• 41:16
  by
• 41:16
  like,
• 41:17
  some.
• 41:17
  Some
• 41:17
  child
• 41:18
  psychology
• 41:19
  association
• 41:21
  as
• 41:21
  having
• 41:22
  an
• 41:22
  impact
• 41:22
  on
• 41:23
  emotional
• 41:23
  health.
• 41:24
  That
• 41:24
  would
• 41:24
  be
• 41:25
  like
• 41:25
  the
• 41:26
  end,
• 41:26
  almost
• 41:26
  beautiful
• 41:27
  reward
• 41:28
  is
• 41:30
  the
• 41:30
  book
• 41:30
  being
• 41:31
  recognized
• 41:31
  that
• 41:31
  it
• 41:31
  was
• 41:32
  able
• 41:32
  to
• 41:32
  help
• 41:33
  out.
• 41:34
  But
• 41:35
  right
• 41:35
  now,
• 41:37
  very
• 41:37
  few
• 41:37
  people
• 41:37
  know
• 41:38
  about
• 41:38
  the
• 41:38
  book.
• 41:39
  So
• 41:40
  that's
• 41:40
  why
• 41:40
  I'm
• 41:41
  hoping
• 41:41
  by
• 41:41
  like
• 41:41
  talking
• 41:42
  to
• 41:42
  you,
• 41:42
  talking
• 41:43
  other
• 41:44
  podcasts,
• 41:44
  that
• 41:46
  it
• 41:46
  can
• 41:46
  reach
• 41:46
  the
• 41:47
  child
• 41:47
  psychologist
• 41:48
  so
• 41:48
  that
• 41:49
  they
• 41:49
  can
• 41:49
  feel
• 41:49
  for
• 41:50
  it
• 41:50
  and
• 41:50
  use
• 41:50
  it
• 41:50
  in
• 41:50
  their
• 41:50
  practice.
• 41:51
  That's
• 41:51
  what
• 41:51
  I
• 41:51
  want
• 41:52
  to
• 41:53
  use
• 41:53
  it.
• 41:53
  That's
• 41:54
  fantastic.
• 41:55
  Is
• 41:55
  there
• 41:55
  a
• 41:56
  national
• 41:56
  organization
• 41:57
  for
• 41:58
  adverse
• 41:59
  childhood
• 42:00
  experiences?
• 42:02
  Not
• 42:02
  for
• 42:02
  that
• 42:03
  in
• 42:03
  particular,
• 42:03
  but
• 42:04
  there
• 42:04
  are
• 42:04
  psychological
• 42:05
  associations
• 42:07
  for
• 42:07
  mental
• 42:08
  health
• 42:08
  for
• 42:08
  children.
• 42:09
  Okay,
• 42:10
  that's
• 42:10
  my
• 42:10
  prayer.
• 42:10
  Let's
• 42:11
  see.
• 42:11
  We'll
• 42:12
  talk
• 42:12
  about
• 42:12
  it
• 42:12
  again
• 42:12
  in
• 42:12
  five
• 42:13
  years.
• 42:14
  Okay,
• 42:15
  you're
• 42:15
  on.
• 42:18
  As
• 42:18
  I
• 42:18
  listen
• 42:18
  to
• 42:19
  you
• 42:19
  in
• 42:19
  terms
• 42:20
  of
• 42:20
  your
• 42:20
  writing,
• 42:22
  talk
• 42:22
  to
• 42:22
  us
• 42:22
  about
• 42:23
  what
• 42:23
  the
• 42:24
  role
• 42:24
  of
• 42:25
  being
• 42:26
  a
• 42:26
  children's
• 42:26
  book
• 42:27
  author
• 42:27
  means
• 42:27
  to
• 42:28
  you
• 42:28
  now
• 42:29
  and
• 42:29
  how
• 42:30
  do
• 42:30
  you
• 42:30
  see
• 42:30
  it
• 42:30
  helping
• 42:31
  in
• 42:31
  your
• 42:32
  professional
• 42:32
  life?
• 42:33
  I'm
• 42:34
  a
• 42:34
  very
• 42:34
  empathic
• 42:35
  person.
• 42:36
  And
• 42:37
  so
• 42:38
  it's
• 42:38
  interesting
• 42:39
  because
• 42:39
  like
• 42:39
  I
• 42:39
  was
• 42:40
  telling
• 42:40
  you,
• 42:40
  I'm
• 42:40
  in
• 42:40
  graduate
• 42:41
  school
• 42:41
  and
• 42:42
  they
• 42:42
  have
• 42:42
  different
• 42:43
  programs
• 42:44
  degree
• 42:44
  in
• 42:44
  and
• 42:45
  I'm
• 42:45
  not
• 42:45
  in
• 42:45
  the
• 42:45
  psych
• 42:47
  program.
• 42:47
  And
• 42:48
  so
• 42:48
  a
• 42:48
  lot
• 42:49
  of
• 42:49
  my
• 42:49
  coworkers
• 42:50
  and
• 42:50
  my
• 42:50
  classmates
• 42:51
  are
• 42:51
  feeling
• 42:51
  like
• 42:52
  you
• 42:52
  should
• 42:52
  be
• 42:52
  a
• 42:52
  psych
• 42:52
  nurse.
• 42:53
  But
• 42:53
  I
• 42:53
  actually
• 42:54
  love
• 42:54
  clinical
• 42:55
  Care.
• 42:55
  I
• 42:55
  love
• 42:56
  taking
• 42:56
  care
• 42:56
  of
• 42:56
  the
• 42:56
  patients
• 42:56
  when
• 42:57
  they're
• 42:57
  not
• 42:57
  feeling
• 42:57
  well.
• 42:58
  But
• 42:58
  the
• 42:58
  interesting
• 42:59
  aspect
• 42:59
  is
• 43:00
  some
• 43:00
  of
• 43:00
  my
• 43:00
  patients
• 43:01
  bought
• 43:01
  the
• 43:01
  book,
• 43:03
  and
• 43:03
  I've
• 43:03
  been
• 43:03
  able
• 43:04
  to
• 43:04
  see,
• 43:04
  like,
• 43:04
  the
• 43:05
  emotional
• 43:05
  relief
• 43:06
  that
• 43:06
  they
• 43:06
  have
• 43:07
  from
• 43:07
  reading
• 43:07
  the
• 43:07
  book.
• 43:07
  And
• 43:08
  that
• 43:08
  is
• 43:08
  the
• 43:08
  most
• 43:08
  touching
• 43:10
  thing
• 43:10
  to
• 43:10
  me.
• 43:11
  Regardless
• 43:12
  of
• 43:12
  what
• 43:12
  kind
• 43:12
  of
• 43:13
  illness
• 43:13
  you
• 43:13
  have,
• 43:14
  like,
• 43:15
  physical
• 43:15
  or
• 43:15
  mental,
• 43:17
  those
• 43:17
  who
• 43:17
  are
• 43:17
  physically
• 43:18
  ill
• 43:19
  often
• 43:19
  suffer
• 43:19
  from
• 43:20
  depression
• 43:20
  anyway.
• 43:20
  Like,
• 43:21
  it
• 43:21
  comes
• 43:22
  along
• 43:22
  as
• 43:22
  a
• 43:22
  package
• 43:23
  and.
• 43:23
  Yeah.
• 43:24
  So
• 43:24
  even
• 43:24
  if
• 43:24
  you
• 43:25
  don't
• 43:25
  have
• 43:25
  a
• 43:25
  mental
• 43:26
  health
• 43:26
  problem,
• 43:28
  I
• 43:28
  take
• 43:29
  care
• 43:29
  of
• 43:29
  patients
• 43:29
  who
• 43:29
  have
• 43:29
  autoimmune
• 43:30
  disease,
• 43:31
  and
• 43:32
  it
• 43:32
  affects
• 43:32
  their
• 43:32
  emotional
• 43:33
  health
• 43:33
  because
• 43:34
  they're
• 43:34
  constantly
• 43:34
  in
• 43:35
  pain.
• 43:36
  So
• 43:38
  this
• 43:38
  has
• 43:38
  affected
• 43:39
  my
• 43:39
  practice
• 43:40
  and
• 43:40
  being
• 43:41
  able
• 43:41
  to
• 43:41
  show
• 43:41
  even
• 43:41
  more
• 43:42
  empathy
• 43:42
  and
• 43:43
  being
• 43:44
  able
• 43:44
  to
• 43:44
  tell
• 43:44
  my
• 43:44
  patients,
• 43:45
  I
• 43:45
  understand.
• 43:45
  It's
• 43:46
  been
• 43:46
  a
• 43:46
  beautiful
• 43:46
  thing.
• 43:47
  So
• 43:47
  many
• 43:47
  of
• 43:47
  my
• 43:48
  patients,
• 43:48
  I
• 43:48
  love
• 43:48
  them.
• 43:48
  They're
• 43:49
  so
• 43:49
  supportive.
• 43:49
  They
• 43:49
  heard
• 43:49
  that
• 43:50
  I
• 43:50
  wrote
• 43:50
  a
• 43:50
  book.
• 43:50
  They
• 43:50
  bought
• 43:50
  it
• 43:51
  right
• 43:51
  away.
• 43:51
  One
• 43:52
  of
• 43:52
  my
• 43:52
  patients
• 43:52
  was
• 43:53
  like,
• 43:53
  I
• 43:53
  was
• 43:54
  waiting
• 43:54
  for
• 43:54
  it
• 43:55
  ended
• 43:55
  and
• 43:55
  I
• 43:55
  wanted
• 43:56
  more.
• 43:57
  Yeah.
• 43:58
  And
• 43:58
  I
• 43:58
  was
• 43:58
  like,
• 43:59
  so
• 43:59
  it
• 43:59
  just
• 44:00
  is
• 44:00
  a
• 44:00
  good
• 44:00
  feeling.
• 44:01
  And
• 44:02
  again,
• 44:02
  because
• 44:03
  all
• 44:03
  of
• 44:03
  us,
• 44:04
  most
• 44:04
  of
• 44:04
  us
• 44:05
  are
• 44:06
  adults
• 44:07
  that
• 44:07
  are
• 44:07
  like
• 44:07
  wounded
• 44:08
  children
• 44:08
  inside.
• 44:09
  So
• 44:09
  to
• 44:09
  see
• 44:09
  an
• 44:10
  adult,
• 44:12
  something
• 44:12
  inside
• 44:13
  me
• 44:13
  heals
• 44:14
  from
• 44:14
  reading
• 44:14
  is
• 44:15
  my
• 44:15
  thought
• 44:15
  process.
• 44:16
  Yeah.
• 44:16
  That's
• 44:16
  fantastic.
• 44:18
  You've
• 44:18
  got
• 44:18
  a
• 44:18
  busy
• 44:19
  life
• 44:20
  and
• 44:20
  how
• 44:21
  much
• 44:21
  time
• 44:21
  are
• 44:21
  you
• 44:22
  devoting
• 44:22
  to
• 44:22
  writing
• 44:23
  right
• 44:23
  now?
• 44:24
  Actually,
• 44:24
  writing
• 44:25
  takes
• 44:25
  up
• 44:25
  a
• 44:25
  lot
• 44:26
  of
• 44:26
  my
• 44:26
  time.
• 44:27
  Like,
• 44:27
  I'm
• 44:27
  the
• 44:27
  person
• 44:28
  that
• 44:29
  thankfully,
• 44:29
  I
• 44:29
  guess
• 44:29
  I
• 44:30
  have
• 44:30
  good
• 44:30
  time
• 44:30
  management
• 44:31
  skills.
• 44:32
  The
• 44:32
  other
• 44:32
  thing,
• 44:32
  too
• 44:33
  is
• 44:33
  I
• 44:34
  was
• 44:34
  a
• 44:34
  caretaker
• 44:35
  for
• 44:35
  most
• 44:35
  of
• 44:35
  my
• 44:35
  adult
• 44:35
  life.
• 44:37
  And
• 44:37
  so
• 44:37
  then
• 44:37
  once
• 44:37
  my
• 44:38
  grandmother
• 44:38
  passed,
• 44:38
  it
• 44:38
  was
• 44:39
  just
• 44:39
  like
• 44:39
  this
• 44:39
  empty,
• 44:40
  like,
• 44:40
  cold
• 44:41
  that
• 44:41
  was
• 44:41
  so
• 44:41
  used
• 44:42
  to
• 44:42
  scheduling
• 44:43
  appointments,
• 44:44
  I
• 44:44
  had
• 44:44
  a
• 44:44
  little
• 44:45
  camera
• 44:45
  that
• 44:45
  I
• 44:45
  would
• 44:45
  watch
• 44:45
  her
• 44:46
  on
• 44:46
  my
• 44:46
  phone.
• 44:47
  Like,
• 44:47
  I
• 44:47
  literally
• 44:47
  watched
• 44:48
  her
• 44:48
  all
• 44:48
  day
• 44:48
  to
• 44:48
  make
• 44:49
  sure
• 44:49
  she
• 44:49
  was
• 44:49
  okay.
• 44:50
  And
• 44:50
  so
• 44:50
  now
• 44:51
  she's
• 44:51
  not
• 44:51
  here.
• 44:51
  And,
• 44:52
  like,
• 44:53
  my
• 44:53
  brain
• 44:54
  is
• 44:54
  like,
• 44:54
  what
• 44:54
  do
• 44:55
  I
• 44:55
  do?
• 44:56
  So
• 44:56
  I've
• 44:56
  been
• 44:56
  able
• 44:56
  to
• 44:57
  fill
• 44:57
  that
• 44:57
  time
• 44:58
  and
• 44:58
  that
• 44:58
  space
• 44:58
  with
• 44:59
  writing.
• 44:59
  I'm
• 45:00
  fortunate
• 45:00
  that
• 45:00
  I'm
• 45:00
  able
• 45:01
  to
• 45:01
  go
• 45:01
  to
• 45:01
  work,
• 45:01
  do
• 45:02
  my
• 45:02
  homework,
• 45:02
  and
• 45:02
  then
• 45:03
  as
• 45:03
  soon
• 45:03
  as
• 45:03
  that's
• 45:03
  done,
• 45:03
  I
• 45:03
  go
• 45:04
  right
• 45:04
  back
• 45:04
  to
• 45:04
  writing.
• 45:05
  Good.
• 45:05
  So
• 45:06
  fulfilling.
• 45:07
  No,
• 45:08
  but
• 45:08
  that's
• 45:08
  important.
• 45:09
  I
• 45:09
  think
• 45:09
  a
• 45:09
  lot
• 45:09
  of
• 45:10
  us
• 45:10
  as
• 45:11
  children's
• 45:12
  book
• 45:12
  authors,
• 45:13
  it
• 45:13
  is
• 45:13
  a
• 45:13
  way
• 45:14
  to
• 45:14
  release
• 45:14
  some
• 45:15
  of
• 45:15
  the
• 45:16
  mental.
• 45:18
  Sometimes
• 45:18
  it's
• 45:18
  mental
• 45:19
  frustration,
• 45:19
  sometimes
• 45:20
  it's
• 45:20
  glee
• 45:21
  because
• 45:21
  you're
• 45:21
  happy.
• 45:22
  I
• 45:22
  mean,
• 45:22
  there's
• 45:23
  so
• 45:23
  many
• 45:23
  emotions
• 45:24
  that
• 45:24
  go
• 45:24
  with
• 45:25
  writing.
• 45:25
  So
• 45:25
  thank
• 45:26
  you
• 45:26
  for
• 45:26
  sharing
• 45:26
  that.
• 45:27
  My
• 45:27
  grief.
• 45:28
  This
• 45:28
  definitely
• 45:29
  helped
• 45:29
  me
• 45:29
  with
• 45:29
  my
• 45:29
  grief.
• 45:30
  Advice
• 45:31
  for
• 45:31
  aspiring
• 45:32
  authors.
• 45:34
  What
• 45:34
  kind
• 45:34
  of
• 45:34
  advice
• 45:35
  would
• 45:35
  you
• 45:35
  give
• 45:35
  an
• 45:35
  aspiring
• 45:36
  author?
• 45:37
  First
• 45:37
  thing
• 45:38
  I
• 45:38
  would
• 45:38
  say
• 45:38
  is
• 45:38
  not
• 45:38
  as
• 45:39
  hard
• 45:39
  as
• 45:39
  you
• 45:39
  think.
• 45:40
  Because
• 45:41
  like
• 45:41
  I
• 45:41
  said,
• 45:41
  I
• 45:42
  wanted
• 45:42
  to
• 45:42
  write
• 45:42
  a
• 45:42
  book
• 45:43
  since
• 45:43
  I
• 45:43
  was
• 45:43
  14.
• 45:43
  I've
• 45:44
  always
• 45:44
  loved
• 45:44
  writing
• 45:46
  and
• 45:46
  I
• 45:46
  just
• 45:46
  never
• 45:47
  thought
• 45:47
  like,
• 45:47
  I.
• 45:47
  I
• 45:47
  could
• 45:48
  do
• 45:48
  it.
• 45:48
  I
• 45:48
  thought
• 45:48
  you
• 45:48
  needed
• 45:49
  to
• 45:49
  be
• 45:50
  signed
• 45:50
  on
• 45:50
  with
• 45:51
  publishing
• 45:51
  company
• 45:52
  and
• 45:52
  all
• 45:53
  these
• 45:53
  things.
• 45:53
  But
• 45:54
  it's
• 45:54
  not
• 45:54
  as
• 45:54
  hard
• 45:55
  as
• 45:55
  you
• 45:56
  think.
• 45:56
  So
• 45:57
  I
• 45:57
  would
• 45:57
  just
• 45:57
  encourage
• 45:57
  them
• 45:58
  not
• 45:58
  to
• 45:58
  give
• 45:58
  up.
• 45:59
  Also
• 45:59
  to
• 45:59
  be
• 46:00
  patient.
• 46:00
  The
• 46:00
  beginning
• 46:01
  process
• 46:02
  can
• 46:02
  be
• 46:02
  somewhat
• 46:03
  slow.
• 46:03
  One
• 46:04
  thing
• 46:04
  that
• 46:04
  I
• 46:04
  learned
• 46:04
  is
• 46:06
  this
• 46:07
  process.
• 46:08
  The
• 46:08
  process
• 46:08
  of
• 46:08
  writing
• 46:09
  isn't
• 46:09
  difficult,
• 46:10
  and
• 46:10
  the
• 46:10
  process
• 46:12
  getting
• 46:12
  it
• 46:12
  to
• 46:12
  Amazon
• 46:13
  and
• 46:13
  IngramSpark
• 46:14
  is
• 46:15
  not
• 46:15
  difficult.
• 46:16
  But
• 46:16
  getting
• 46:16
  people
• 46:17
  to
• 46:17
  see
• 46:17
  it,
• 46:18
  that's
• 46:19
  the
• 46:19
  part
• 46:19
  that
• 46:19
  can
• 46:19
  be
• 46:20
  a
• 46:20
  little
• 46:20
  bit
• 46:20
  difficult.
• 46:21
  So
• 46:21
  you
• 46:21
  have
• 46:21
  to
• 46:21
  be
• 46:22
  creative.
• 46:22
  I
• 46:23
  had
• 46:23
  to
• 46:23
  start
• 46:23
  an
• 46:23
  Instagram.
• 46:25
  I
• 46:25
  learned
• 46:26
  that
• 46:26
  on
• 46:26
  Instagram
• 46:27
  you
• 46:27
  can
• 46:27
  make
• 46:27
  an
• 46:27
  ad.
• 46:28
  So
• 46:28
  I
• 46:28
  made
• 46:28
  Instagram
• 46:29
  ads.
• 46:30
  So
• 46:30
  you
• 46:30
  have
• 46:31
  to
• 46:31
  be
• 46:31
  creative
• 46:31
  in
• 46:32
  getting
• 46:33
  people
• 46:33
  to
• 46:33
  see
• 46:33
  it.
• 46:34
  I
• 46:34
  would
• 46:34
  say
• 46:34
  that's
• 46:34
  the
• 46:35
  most
• 46:35
  difficult
• 46:35
  part.
• 46:36
  Process.
• 46:38
  But
• 46:38
  be
• 46:39
  patient,
• 46:39
  because
• 46:40
  as
• 46:40
  time
• 46:40
  goes
• 46:41
  by,
• 46:41
  it
• 46:42
  starts
• 46:42
  to
• 46:42
  spread
• 46:43
  through
• 46:43
  word
• 46:43
  of
• 46:43
  mouth.
• 46:44
  People
• 46:45
  see
• 46:45
  it.
• 46:45
  Oh,
• 46:46
  one
• 46:46
  lady
• 46:46
  on
• 46:46
  Instagram
• 46:47
  reached
• 46:47
  out
• 46:47
  to
• 46:47
  me
• 46:48
  three
• 46:48
  days
• 46:48
  ago,
• 46:48
  actually.
• 46:50
  She
• 46:50
  said,
• 46:50
  I'm
• 46:51
  a
• 46:51
  child
• 46:51
  social
• 46:52
  worker.
• 46:52
  Okay,
• 46:53
  I
• 46:53
  would
• 46:54
  love
• 46:54
  to
• 46:54
  use
• 46:54
  this
• 46:55
  book.
• 46:55
  She
• 46:56
  asked
• 46:56
  me
• 46:56
  if
• 46:56
  I
• 46:56
  could
• 46:56
  send
• 46:57
  her
• 46:57
  a
• 46:57
  copy.
• 46:58
  So
• 46:58
  I
• 46:58
  mailed
• 46:59
  her
• 46:59
  a
• 46:59
  copy
• 46:59
  and
• 46:59
  I'm
• 47:00
  waiting
• 47:00
  to
• 47:00
  see
• 47:00
  what
• 47:00
  results
• 47:01
  do
• 47:01
  not.
• 47:01
  So
• 47:03
  just
• 47:03
  be
• 47:03
  patient.
• 47:03
  Yeah,
• 47:04
  you
• 47:04
  never
• 47:04
  know
• 47:04
  where
• 47:05
  the
• 47:05
  opportunities
• 47:05
  lie.
• 47:06
  For
• 47:06
  sure.
• 47:06
  Thank
• 47:07
  you.
• 47:07
  Another
• 47:07
  thing
• 47:08
  is
• 47:08
  you
• 47:08
  have
• 47:08
  to
• 47:08
  be
• 47:08
  willing.
• 47:09
  There's
• 47:09
  been
• 47:09
  a
• 47:09
  couple
• 47:10
  of
• 47:10
  people
• 47:10
  that,
• 47:11
  that
• 47:11
  want
• 47:12
  to
• 47:12
  use
• 47:12
  the
• 47:12
  publication,
• 47:12
  but
• 47:13
  they
• 47:13
  ask
• 47:13
  you
• 47:13
  to
• 47:14
  mail
• 47:14
  them
• 47:14
  a
• 47:14
  copy.
• 47:14
  So
• 47:14
  you
• 47:15
  have
• 47:15
  to
• 47:15
  be
• 47:15
  willing
• 47:15
  to
• 47:15
  take
• 47:16
  that
• 47:16
  loss
• 47:16
  initially.
• 47:17
  I
• 47:17
  would
• 47:17
  think
• 47:17
  as
• 47:18
  long
• 47:18
  as
• 47:19
  they
• 47:20
  share
• 47:20
  with
• 47:20
  you
• 47:20
  what
• 47:21
  they're
• 47:21
  going
• 47:21
  to
• 47:21
  do
• 47:21
  with
• 47:22
  it
• 47:22
  and
• 47:22
  you
• 47:22
  think
• 47:23
  that's
• 47:23
  going
• 47:23
  to
• 47:24
  give
• 47:24
  you
• 47:24
  exposure
• 47:25
  and
• 47:25
  also
• 47:25
  get
• 47:26
  your
• 47:26
  message
• 47:26
  out
• 47:27
  there.
• 47:27
  Then
• 47:28
  from
• 47:28
  there
• 47:28
  you're
• 47:28
  hoping
• 47:29
  it
• 47:29
  turns
• 47:29
  into
• 47:29
  some
• 47:30
  book
• 47:30
  sales.
• 47:30
  For
• 47:31
  sure.
• 47:31
  Yeah.
• 47:32
  Yeah,
• 47:32
  definitely.
• 47:32
  And
• 47:33
  word
• 47:33
  of
• 47:33
  mouth,
• 47:33
  right.
• 47:35
  You
• 47:35
  shared
• 47:36
  a
• 47:36
  lot.
• 47:36
  But
• 47:36
  I'm
• 47:37
  curious
• 47:37
  about
• 47:38
  what
• 47:38
  keeps
• 47:38
  you
• 47:39
  going
• 47:39
  as
• 47:39
  a
• 47:39
  children's
• 47:40
  book
• 47:40
  author.
• 47:42
  As
• 47:42
  much
• 47:42
  therapy
• 47:43
  as
• 47:43
  I
• 47:43
  had,
• 47:43
  there's
• 47:44
  still
• 47:44
  a
• 47:44
  part
• 47:45
  of
• 47:45
  my
• 47:45
  heart
• 47:45
  that
• 47:46
  is
• 47:47
  aching.
• 47:48
  I
• 47:48
  guess
• 47:49
  you
• 47:49
  can
• 47:49
  say
• 47:49
  I'm
• 47:50
  very
• 47:50
  grateful
• 47:51
  because
• 47:52
  the
• 47:53
  psychologist
• 47:53
  that
• 47:53
  I
• 47:54
  saw
• 47:54
  was
• 47:54
  amazing.
• 47:55
  Like,
• 47:55
  when
• 47:56
  I
• 47:56
  tell
• 47:56
  you
• 47:56
  I
• 47:57
  was
• 47:57
  at
• 47:57
  this
• 47:57
  point
• 47:57
  in
• 47:58
  my
• 47:58
  life
• 47:58
  where
• 47:58
  after
• 47:58
  my
• 47:59
  grandmother
• 47:59
  died,
• 47:59
  where
• 47:59
  I
• 48:00
  just
• 48:01
  didn't
• 48:01
  want
• 48:01
  to
• 48:02
  live
• 48:02
  like.
• 48:03
  And
• 48:03
  she
• 48:04
  helped
• 48:04
  me
• 48:04
  to
• 48:06
  put
• 48:06
  the
• 48:07
  good
• 48:07
  experience
• 48:07
  of
• 48:08
  my
• 48:08
  grandma.
• 48:09
  It's
• 48:09
  a
• 48:10
  place
• 48:10
  in
• 48:10
  my
• 48:10
  heart
• 48:10
  where
• 48:11
  I
• 48:11
  have
• 48:11
  to
• 48:11
  keep
• 48:11
  going,
• 48:12
  but
• 48:13
  still
• 48:13
  there's
• 48:13
  a
• 48:13
  part
• 48:13
  of
• 48:14
  my
• 48:14
  heart
• 48:14
  that
• 48:14
  aches
• 48:15
  from
• 48:16
  abuse.
• 48:17
  And
• 48:18
  I
• 48:19
  will
• 48:19
  hope
• 48:19
  that
• 48:19
  to
• 48:20
  fully
• 48:20
  resolve.
• 48:21
  That's
• 48:21
  not
• 48:21
  real
• 48:21
  life.
• 48:22
  That's
• 48:22
  not
• 48:23
  real
• 48:23
  life.
• 48:24
  So
• 48:24
  what
• 48:25
  motivates
• 48:25
  me
• 48:26
  is
• 48:26
  I
• 48:26
  think
• 48:26
  it's
• 48:27
  like
• 48:27
  constantly
• 48:28
  reassuring
• 48:28
  that
• 48:29
  little
• 48:29
  girl
• 48:29
  inside
• 48:30
  that
• 48:30
  you
• 48:30
  didn't
• 48:31
  deserve
• 48:31
  to
• 48:31
  be
• 48:31
  treated
• 48:32
  like
• 48:32
  that.
• 48:33
  And
• 48:34
  so
• 48:34
  by
• 48:35
  reassuring
• 48:35
  little
• 48:36
  Jackie,
• 48:37
  it
• 48:37
  helps
• 48:37
  to
• 48:38
  assure
• 48:39
  other
• 48:39
  children.
• 48:40
  And
• 48:40
  to
• 48:40
  your
• 48:41
  point,
• 48:41
  Jacqueline,
• 48:41
  your
• 48:42
  message
• 48:42
  is
• 48:42
  timeless.
• 48:44
  As
• 48:44
  long
• 48:44
  as
• 48:44
  we
• 48:44
  have
• 48:45
  children
• 48:45
  and
• 48:45
  we're
• 48:46
  going
• 48:46
  to
• 48:46
  have
• 48:46
  childhood
• 48:47
  trauma,
• 48:47
  for
• 48:48
  sure.
• 48:49
  Because
• 48:49
  life
• 48:49
  isn't
• 48:50
  flowers
• 48:51
  and
• 48:51
  puppy
• 48:52
  tales
• 48:52
  or
• 48:52
  whatever
• 48:52
  that
• 48:53
  saying
• 48:53
  is.
• 48:54
  There's
• 48:54
  always
• 48:54
  challenges,
• 48:56
  encouragement
• 48:56
  for
• 48:57
  read.
• 48:57
  Why
• 48:57
  should
• 48:58
  children's
• 48:59
  book
• 48:59
  readers
• 49:00
  purchase
• 49:00
  your
• 49:00
  book?
• 49:02
  I
• 49:02
  would
• 49:02
  say
• 49:02
  you
• 49:03
  should
• 49:03
  purchase
• 49:03
  the
• 49:04
  book
• 49:04
  because
• 49:04
  it
• 49:05
  will
• 49:05
  leave
• 49:05
  you
• 49:06
  feeling
• 49:07
  empowered.
• 49:08
  It
• 49:09
  will
• 49:09
  leave
• 49:09
  you
• 49:09
  feeling
• 49:10
  like
• 49:11
  what
• 49:11
  happened
• 49:12
  to
• 49:12
  you
• 49:12
  is
• 49:13
  not
• 49:13
  going
• 49:13
  to
• 49:13
  hold
• 49:13
  you
• 49:13
  back
• 49:14
  from
• 49:15
  growing
• 49:15
  into
• 49:15
  a
• 49:16
  beautiful
• 49:16
  tree.
• 49:18
  And
• 49:19
  yeah,
• 49:19
  it
• 49:19
  will
• 49:19
  leave
• 49:19
  you
• 49:20
  feeling
• 49:20
  empowered.
• 49:20
  It
• 49:20
  will
• 49:21
  leave
• 49:21
  you
• 49:21
  feeling
• 49:22
  like
• 49:22
  if
• 49:23
  you
• 49:23
  are
• 49:23
  mistreated
• 49:24
  as
• 49:25
  a
• 49:25
  child,
• 49:26
  that
• 49:26
  was
• 49:26
  not
• 49:27
  because
• 49:27
  you
• 49:27
  were
• 49:27
  bad
• 49:27
  or
• 49:28
  anything
• 49:28
  that
• 49:28
  you
• 49:28
  did.
• 49:29
  That's.
• 49:29
  That's
• 49:30
  a
• 49:30
  lie
• 49:30
  that
• 49:30
  abusers
• 49:31
  want
• 49:31
  you
• 49:32
  to
• 49:32
  feel.
• 49:32
  Thank
• 49:33
  you
• 49:33
  for
• 49:33
  sharing
• 49:33
  that.
• 49:35
  Final
• 49:35
  thoughts.
• 49:36
  Is
• 49:36
  there
• 49:36
  anything
• 49:37
  you
• 49:37
  say?
• 49:37
  Oh,
• 49:37
  geez,
• 49:38
  I
• 49:38
  wish
• 49:38
  Rick
• 49:38
  would
• 49:39
  have
• 49:39
  asked
• 49:39
  me
• 49:39
  that
• 49:39
  question.
• 49:40
  Not
• 49:41
  that
• 49:41
  comes
• 49:41
  off
• 49:41
  the
• 49:41
  top
• 49:42
  of
• 49:42
  my
• 49:42
  head.
• 49:42
  One
• 49:43
  thing
• 49:43
  I
• 49:43
  will
• 49:43
  just
• 49:43
  say,
• 49:45
  I
• 49:46
  really
• 49:46
  want
• 49:46
  to
• 49:46
  thank
• 49:47
  every
• 49:48
  adult
• 49:48
  out
• 49:49
  there
• 49:49
  that's
• 49:49
  trying
• 49:49
  to
• 49:49
  help
• 49:50
  a
• 49:50
  child,
• 49:51
  like,
• 49:52
  whether
• 49:52
  you're
• 49:52
  an
• 49:52
  adoptive
• 49:53
  parent
• 49:54
  and
• 49:55
  especially
• 49:55
  the
• 49:55
  educator.
• 49:56
  I
• 49:56
  think
• 49:57
  teachers
• 49:57
  and
• 49:58
  educators
• 49:58
  do
• 49:59
  not
• 49:59
  get
• 50:00
  the
• 50:00
  credit
• 50:00
  that
• 50:00
  they
• 50:00
  deserve.
• 50:01
  And
• 50:01
  I'll
• 50:01
  just
• 50:02
  tell
• 50:02
  you
• 50:02
  a
• 50:02
  story.
• 50:02
  When
• 50:02
  I
• 50:02
  was
• 50:02
  in
• 50:03
  fifth
• 50:03
  grade,
• 50:04
  from
• 50:05
  my
• 50:05
  elementary
• 50:06
  school,
• 50:06
  from
• 50:06
  first
• 50:07
  grade
• 50:07
  to
• 50:07
  fourth
• 50:07
  grade,
• 50:07
  we
• 50:08
  had
• 50:08
  these
• 50:08
  citywide
• 50:08
  exams
• 50:09
  that
• 50:09
  we
• 50:09
  take
• 50:09
  at
• 50:09
  the
• 50:10
  end
• 50:10
  of
• 50:10
  the
• 50:10
  year.
• 50:11
  And
• 50:11
  every
• 50:11
  year
• 50:12
  I
• 50:12
  failed.
• 50:12
  I
• 50:13
  failed.
• 50:13
  I
• 50:13
  don't
• 50:14
  even
• 50:14
  know
• 50:14
  how
• 50:14
  I
• 50:14
  got
• 50:14
  passed
• 50:14
  in
• 50:15
  the
• 50:15
  next.
• 50:15
  Like,
• 50:15
  they
• 50:16
  just
• 50:16
  passed
• 50:16
  me.
• 50:16
  And
• 50:17
  then
• 50:17
  in
• 50:17
  fifth
• 50:17
  grade,
• 50:17
  I
• 50:18
  got
• 50:18
  this
• 50:18
  teacher
• 50:18
  who
• 50:18
  finally
• 50:19
  saw
• 50:19
  me.
• 50:19
  Like,
• 50:20
  she
• 50:20
  finally
• 50:21
  saw
• 50:21
  that
• 50:21
  I
• 50:22
  was
• 50:22
  struggling
• 50:22
  with
• 50:22
  some
• 50:23
  things.
• 50:23
  And
• 50:23
  every
• 50:23
  day
• 50:23
  she
• 50:24
  will
• 50:24
  whisper
• 50:24
  in
• 50:24
  my
• 50:24
  ear,
• 50:26
  you're
• 50:26
  going
• 50:26
  to
• 50:26
  be
• 50:26
  great
• 50:27
  one
• 50:27
  day.
• 50:29
  And
• 50:29
  I
• 50:29
  just
• 50:30
  soaked
• 50:30
  up
• 50:31
  every
• 50:31
  word
• 50:31
  of
• 50:31
  encouragement
• 50:32
  that
• 50:32
  she
• 50:32
  gave
• 50:32
  me.
• 50:33
  I
• 50:33
  just
• 50:33
  soaked
• 50:33
  up.
• 50:34
  So
• 50:34
  the
• 50:34
  end
• 50:35
  of
• 50:35
  that
• 50:35
  fifth
• 50:35
  grade
• 50:35
  year,
• 50:36
  I
• 50:36
  scored
• 50:36
  in
• 50:37
  the
• 50:37
  99th
• 50:38
  percentile
• 50:38
  in
• 50:38
  both
• 50:39
  reading.
• 50:40
  Wow.
• 50:40
  After
• 50:40
  previous
• 50:41
  four
• 50:41
  years
• 50:42
  having
• 50:42
  failed
• 50:43
  the
• 50:43
  citywide
• 50:43
  exams.
• 50:45
  So
• 50:45
  it
• 50:45
  just
• 50:45
  shows
• 50:45
  you.
• 50:46
  She
• 50:46
  also
• 50:46
  changed
• 50:47
  the
• 50:47
  trajectory
• 50:47
  of
• 50:48
  my
• 50:48
  life
• 50:49
  because
• 50:49
  then
• 50:49
  after
• 50:49
  I
• 50:50
  was
• 50:50
  finished
• 50:50
  with
• 50:50
  her,
• 50:51
  I
• 50:51
  got
• 50:51
  placed
• 50:51
  in
• 50:52
  like
• 50:52
  a
• 50:52
  gifted
• 50:53
  and
• 50:53
  talented
• 50:54
  class
• 50:54
  from
• 50:54
  middle
• 50:54
  school.
• 50:55
  I
• 50:55
  just
• 50:55
  want
• 50:56
  to
• 50:56
  say
• 50:56
  thank
• 50:56
  you
• 50:56
  to
• 50:56
  all
• 50:56
  the
• 50:57
  teachers,
• 50:57
  educators,
• 50:58
  adoptive
• 50:59
  parents,
• 51:00
  aunties,
• 51:01
  uncles,
• 51:02
  those
• 51:02
  who
• 51:02
  are
• 51:02
  grandparents
• 51:03
  who
• 51:03
  are
• 51:03
  stepping
• 51:04
  into
• 51:04
  place
• 51:05
  of
• 51:06
  an
• 51:06
  absent.
• 51:07
  If
• 51:07
  I'm
• 51:07
  not
• 51:07
  mistaken,
• 51:08
  first
• 51:08
  week
• 51:09
  in
• 51:09
  May
• 51:09
  is
• 51:09
  Teachers
• 51:10
  Week.
• 51:11
  Yes.
• 51:11
  Teachers
• 51:12
  Week
• 51:12
  and
• 51:12
  Nurses
• 51:12
  Week
• 51:13
  coincide
• 51:13
  every
• 51:13
  year.
• 51:14
  Oh,
• 51:14
  do
• 51:14
  they?
• 51:15
  Okay,
• 51:15
  you
• 51:15
  know
• 51:15
  what?
• 51:16
  So
• 51:16
  anyone
• 51:16
  listening,
• 51:17
  please
• 51:18
  definitely
• 51:18
  reach
• 51:18
  out
• 51:18
  and
• 51:19
  thank
• 51:19
  your
• 51:20
  current
• 51:20
  teacher
• 51:21
  or
• 51:21
  a
• 51:21
  teacher
• 51:22
  of
• 51:22
  your
• 51:22
  past.
• 51:23
  I
• 51:23
  can
• 51:23
  think
• 51:23
  of
• 51:25
  a
• 51:25
  handful
• 51:25
  of
• 51:25
  teachers
• 51:26
  through
• 51:26
  my
• 51:27
  life
• 51:28
  that
• 51:28
  had
• 51:28
  an
• 51:28
  impact.
• 51:29
  Absolutely.
• 51:30
  You
• 51:31
  know,
• 51:33
  thank
• 51:34
  you,
• 51:34
  Jacqueline,
• 51:35
  thank
• 51:35
  you
• 51:35
  very
• 51:36
  much
• 51:36
  for
• 51:36
  being
• 51:36
  a
• 51:36
  guest
• 51:37
  on
• 51:37
  the
• 51:37
  Adventures
• 51:38
  in
• 51:38
  the
• 51:38
  Heart
• 51:38
  of
• 51:39
  Children's
• 51:39
  Book
• 51:39
  Authors
• 51:40
  podcast.
• 51:40
  Your
• 51:40
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• 51:41
  your
• 51:41
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• 51:42
  and
• 51:43
  insights
• 51:43
  will
• 51:44
  significantly
• 51:45
  benefit
• 51:45
  aspiring
• 51:46
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• 51:47
  and
• 51:47
  readers.
• 51:48
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• 51:48
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• 51:49
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• 51:49
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• 51:50
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• 51:52
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• 51:54
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• 51:55
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• 51:55
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• 51:55
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• 52:12
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  Sprout.
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  Thank
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  you,
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  Jacqueline.
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  Thank
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  you
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  for
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  having
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  me.
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  My
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  pleasure.
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  Thank
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  you.