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AEW Hot Topics | ICE Heat · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And nine.
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  Speaker 2: Ignition six five four three two one zero, All engine running.
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  Speaker 1: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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  Speaker 1: Ignition with the aw Fan Hut podcast team. This is
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  Speaker 1: Kelson and as you can probably tell from my voice,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit under the weather, So I apologize
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  Speaker 1: for my sexy deep drawl today. One thing I do
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  Speaker 1: want to say is that I just realized this earlier
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  Speaker 1: today is that this podcast is our third year anniversary
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  Speaker 1: of aw fan Hut Podcast. Three years. What do you
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  Speaker 1: guys think about that?
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  Speaker 3: Awesome?
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  Speaker 1: Three years? Countless shows? Who yep? Well, look, before we
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  Speaker 1: get started with the podcast, I do have a announcement
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  Speaker 1: to make and it's going to be done via video,
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  Speaker 1: So here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Barry for doing that. By the way, what did
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  Speaker 1: you guys think of Barry's voice over there? I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was superb amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Do you do this professionally?
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  Speaker 4: No, I have a little experience. My voice isn't good
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  Speaker 4: enough to do it professionally.
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  Speaker 6: But.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I beg the differ too. I actually sent that
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  Speaker 1: to Tokyo Story. He did this for us last night,
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  Speaker 1: and I sent that to Tokyo Story and they were like, amazing,
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  Speaker 1: do we I've been to share that? We can? We
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  Speaker 1: can we share this internally? So Toyo Yeah. So Tokyo
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  Speaker 1: Story is the organizer of the TJPWPW. Let me say
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  Speaker 1: that again, TJPW Texas Stampede, and we are going to
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  Speaker 1: be doing on Saturday. We are going to be doing
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  Speaker 1: a AMA with the Chief operations Officer of Tokyo Story
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  Speaker 1: regarding Texas Stampede right here on our YouTube channel, and
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  Speaker 1: we invite everybody to join us. It would be Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: which is what is it, February fourteenth, Valentine's Day, at
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  Speaker 1: four pm Eastern time, and just you could ask anything
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  Speaker 1: you want. He may not be able to answer everything.
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  Speaker 1: We have some great questions that we're going to be
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  Speaker 1: asking already and it's gonna be a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: So join us for the AMA again. It is on Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: February fourteenth, four pm Eastern time on our YouTube channel
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  Speaker 1: that's at the aaw fan Hub and it should also
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  Speaker 1: be on the Everything Pro Wrestling YouTube channel, which is
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  Speaker 1: at epw' show on YouTube. But if you have any
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  Speaker 1: Hub discord. We will have all the information you need.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get on with the show. It would be remiss
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  Speaker 1: not to talk about the chance that the a W
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  Speaker 1: crowd did before the main event on Dynamite last week
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  Speaker 1: between Brody King and and JF. I wanted to get
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  Speaker 1: your opinions on this, this the chance and what not
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  Speaker 1: overall as a whole. I mean, they were not censored.
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  Speaker 1: It ended up on the national news. Uh what are
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  Speaker 1: the positives and negatives of this?
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  Speaker 5: I think so something interesting.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if anybody follows Dave Gulison, I think
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  Speaker 4: is how you pronounce his name, But he he works
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  Speaker 4: for Turner and or TVs Sports or whatever helps with
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  Speaker 4: the the production of a corporate or something. He explained
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  Speaker 4: that some people were asking why they didn't bleep the
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  Speaker 4: curse words out, and he mentioned that cable doesn't doesn't
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  Speaker 4: technically have to. They're not They're not regulated the same
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  Speaker 4: way over there broadcasts are. So anytime you do hear
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  Speaker 4: language bleeped out from either our crowd or a performer,
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  Speaker 4: that's actually that's a directorial choice.
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  Speaker 1: They don't.
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  Speaker 5: They don't actually have to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Really, that's very interesting because one of the one of
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  Speaker 1: the questions I had Barry was, what if like the
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  Speaker 1: same thing happens this week? Because I'm jf and and
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  Speaker 1: Brody King are facing each other this week again, what
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  Speaker 1: if the same kind of thing happens, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: when they delete it, you know, so I have to
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  Speaker 1: they don't have to. Okay, what other opinions we have
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  Speaker 1: on this?
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  Speaker 3: I'm so glad they didn't censor it. I uh who Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: let's just say like it's a good thing. They let
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  Speaker 3: people speak their mind on this issue. This is me
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  Speaker 3: treading extremely lightly here.
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  Speaker 1: No, I get it because one of the things that
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  Speaker 1: wrestling fans do. I mean, look, we what that's what
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  Speaker 1: this whole podcast is about is opinions. You know. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if you can't share your opinions, you know, what's the
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  Speaker 1: point of being a wrestling fan. Because wrestling is meant
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  Speaker 1: to stir up emotion. It is meant to stir up opinions.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, what do you think. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think this is a one and done kind
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  Speaker 1: of thing.
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  Speaker 4: I'll be interested to see if other crowds do it.
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  Speaker 4: The press was interesting too. I'm a consumer of mainstream
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  Speaker 4: news media and I like to look at how the
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  Speaker 4: same thing is covered from a couple different voices. And
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  Speaker 4: one of the things that I found pretty interesting was
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  Speaker 4: that the writers all pretty much assumed that the professional
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  Speaker 4: wrestling political opinions may match to the combat sports political opinions,
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  Speaker 4: and so they had like some some surprise, oh pro wrestler,
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  Speaker 4: you know, fans making a statement that runs contrary to them.
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  Speaker 4: But it was interesting that they didn't really focus on
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  Speaker 4: a too much.
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  Speaker 5: It was really.
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  Speaker 4: Just just talking about whether or not this meant any
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  Speaker 4: sort of deeper message culturally, blah blah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 4: But it was just bizarre, if anything else, to see
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  Speaker 4: aw Cat, you know, covered in the national press, because
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  Speaker 4: it's just it doesn't happen like it's just it's just
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  Speaker 4: a weird thing to see professional wrestling central to current events.
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  Speaker 4: It's not usually like a current event medium, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly Well, I wanted to follow that up, Verry with
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  Speaker 1: a question for everybody we did see that aw was
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  Speaker 1: covered in national media over the f ice chance, do
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  Speaker 1: we see this as beneficial to AW or detrimental to
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  Speaker 1: AW in the long run?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, well, sorry, go ahead.
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  Speaker 6: I say, any press is good press. You know, so
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  Speaker 6: it got their name out there. You know. Yes, there's
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  Speaker 6: gonna be some people who are like, oh, I'm never
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  Speaker 6: gonna watch it, But there's gonna be other people that
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  Speaker 6: are like, oh, maybe I'll give it a chance. You know,
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  Speaker 6: you're never gonna be able to please everybody. There's always
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  Speaker 6: gonna be people, you know who get is that the
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  Speaker 6: tiniest thing or latch on the things whatever. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 6: they're in the news, they're getting talked about.
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  Speaker 3: Plus, you know, like people made like since they're a
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  Speaker 3: little bit more out there, people may see WWE and
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  Speaker 3: certain associations they have and be turned off by that.
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  Speaker 3: And now that they know that there is an alternative
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  Speaker 3: alternative that may be more in line with what they
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  Speaker 3: personally believe.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, but you're always gonna have people that don't feel
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  Speaker 1: that way going MK.
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  Speaker 7: So pardon the pun, but I see this as a
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  Speaker 7: net positive. I really do think people are gonna see it. Like,
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  Speaker 7: like it was said before, any press is good press.
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  Speaker 7: But people are going to see a AW as the
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  Speaker 7: place to be, a place that does not censor what's
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  Speaker 7: going on and allows wrestlers who in the past I'm
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  Speaker 7: not going to name names, but if you know the past,
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  Speaker 7: there are people who have been outspoken pretty much of
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  Speaker 7: a lot of politics and AAW has let that happen.
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  Speaker 7: So I think it's it's great and it's going to
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  Speaker 7: continue to happen. I don't know when, but it'll continue
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  Speaker 7: to pop up.
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  Speaker 4: I want to tell some if I can pose a
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  Speaker 4: question of some folks too, Sure, go ahead. I'm related
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  Speaker 4: to this because I was just thinking back generally at
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  Speaker 4: least in the modern era of pro wrestling, the television
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  Speaker 4: product has been pretty apolitical. They've never like hidden political
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  Speaker 4: motivations of the owners and promoters, you know, like the McMahon's,
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  Speaker 4: it's pretty clear. You can look up and you sort
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  Speaker 4: of donation records for the cons you know, they kind
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  Speaker 4: of do their things on their own. But when it
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  Speaker 4: comes to the programming, it's it's been pretty a political.
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  Speaker 4: But even on the FED side too, Like pro wrestling
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  Speaker 4: is something where the fans are a character, and I
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  Speaker 4: think a lot of that reflects just modern culture or
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  Speaker 4: current pop culture and when AW and even WWE, like
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  Speaker 4: they just let these things just run their course. I
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  Speaker 4: think it's important. It's the fans kind of participating in
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  Speaker 4: the only way they can in a medium they all love,
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  Speaker 4: as long as it doesn't hurt anybody. But I do
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  Speaker 4: think it's important that the companies just let the fans
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  Speaker 4: do it. And as a as a business, you do
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  Speaker 4: just want to present your product, you know, unless you're
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  Speaker 4: well anyway, you just want to present your product. So
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  Speaker 4: I as long as they just let fans do it,
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  Speaker 4: you know, or even performers do their things or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: But there's no like corporate stances. I do think that's
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  Speaker 4: kind of I realized I never asked a question.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you never did really ask a question. I was waiting,
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  Speaker 1: was like, is there a question coming?
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  Speaker 4: I did, I had it and then I rambled and
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  Speaker 4: I blame myself for that, so I apologize.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I think I kind of get where you were
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  Speaker 6: going though, Like is it.
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  Speaker 4: One of you guys political?
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  Speaker 6: And yeah, you know, I think right now this is
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  Speaker 6: the first and only time they've done it, so it's
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  Speaker 6: not a trend. Yeah, we've got to see what happens
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  Speaker 6: in the following weeks, and you know what, I think
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  Speaker 6: it's one of those things. If it continues, you don't
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  Speaker 6: interfere with it, But you don't have to jump on
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  Speaker 6: to it either. You just think that's fans are doing.
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  Speaker 6: You know, it is what it is, because, yeah, you
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  Speaker 6: don't want to potentially alienate, you know, a portion of
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  Speaker 6: the fan base who just doesn't really care that much,
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  Speaker 6: you know, like I want my wrestling entertainment kind of
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  Speaker 6: like it. I don't care if the fans can or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But well, look this all began. Correct me if I'm wrong, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you have to mute. Correct me if I'm wrong. But
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  Speaker 1: this all began at Grand Slam Mexico with brody King
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  Speaker 1: coming out with the Abolish Ice shirt on that is
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  Speaker 1: that correct?
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  Speaker 5: I think? So, yeah, this wouldn't happen if it was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Now, to be fair here, brody King did
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  Speaker 1: not just come out with the Abolish Ice T shirt
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  Speaker 1: and then put it away and business as usual after that.
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  Speaker 1: He is consistently, but not overbearingly so he has been
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  Speaker 1: consistently boy, listen to my voice, it sounds pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: He's been consistently doing his abolish Ice in a respectful
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  Speaker 1: manner and using that platform for well, you know, for
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  Speaker 1: charity basically to support the communities that have been affected
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  Speaker 1: by ice. Now, with with this being in the national
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  Speaker 1: news and it's all centered around as far as Aw goes,
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  Speaker 1: it's centered around the work that brody King has done.
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  Speaker 1: What would you do now with as AW? Would you
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  Speaker 1: kind of continue to promote uh brody King and keep
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  Speaker 1: him out in the forefront so that so that this
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  Speaker 1: can be, you know, organically evolve as a subplot to
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  Speaker 1: a story. That's a good question, man, Does anybody have
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  Speaker 1: any good answers or opinions?
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  Speaker 8: Of course you do, of course you keep him in
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  Speaker 8: the limelight. I mean, he's worthy of it anyway, But
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  Speaker 8: if you want to keep the high, you want to
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  Speaker 8: keep things going and not be afraid of it, of
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  Speaker 8: course you keep him out. I don't know what program
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  Speaker 8: we put him in once in JFF and him is done,
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  Speaker 8: but you keep him out.
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  Speaker 3: There, why not put the strap on him?
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  Speaker 1: That's what I was just about to ask. Do you
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  Speaker 1: think there's a chance that they give him the title? No,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but so.
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  Speaker 4: There are very rare instances where somebody can just inadvertently
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  Speaker 4: get super hot because of something and you only have
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  Speaker 4: one chance to capitalize on it. This is kind of
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  Speaker 4: one of those weird scenarios. These things do not happen often.
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  Speaker 4: To answer your question, Kelson, I think that depends on
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  Speaker 4: his reception. I don't think he's winning in Grand Slam,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't think even if they want to try
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  Speaker 4: to take advantage of this, putting the strap on him
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  Speaker 4: at Grand Slam is a good idea. The reaction to
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  Speaker 4: him the next show afterwards, I think will tell whether
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  Speaker 4: or not that he keeps any sort of buzz like that,
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  Speaker 4: And if the crowd continues to get behind him, then
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  Speaker 4: I think after another week or two, there's a legitimate
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  Speaker 4: question if you need to consider it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you use the word reaction, and it
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  Speaker 1: is reactive. If ae W does put the strap onto
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  Speaker 1: Brody King at Grand Slam, would people see that as
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  Speaker 1: aw doing something reactive instead of organic?
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  Speaker 5: Good question, that's a really good question.
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  Speaker 1: You know, let's be fair here. Let's be fair here.
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  Speaker 1: This began with Brody King at Grand Slam Mexico. However, However,
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  Speaker 1: if you look at the fan votes and at sites
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  Speaker 1: like what Culture and and fifo select and one not
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  Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty five awards, who was the tag
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  Speaker 1: Team of the Year in a lot of these awards
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  Speaker 1: was Broddo. It's not that Brody King is making a
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  Speaker 1: name for himself only by his abolished iced T shirts
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  Speaker 1: and the community work that he's done. Right, It's he's
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  Speaker 1: a damn good wrestler and it deserves the props.
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  Speaker 4: Broddo happened because Brody was over had gotten over like that.
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  Speaker 4: Dude is on eight like eight month eight of his
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  Speaker 4: babyface run.
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  Speaker 5: So right, this isn't new.
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  Speaker 1: Either, Yeah, yeah, I mean, there's just so much to
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  Speaker 1: get into here, and we would love to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: hear comments, you know, about this from the community. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: this is a great conversation because there's so many moving
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  Speaker 1: parts to it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I love be king in the ring. Frotino was
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  Speaker 6: an amazing tag team still or you know, whenever if
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  Speaker 6: they tick back together. I think he's definitely got potential
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  Speaker 6: as a great singles wrestler. I don't think you put
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  Speaker 6: the strap on him in Australia. I think I think
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  Speaker 6: that loss will kind of see how does the crowd react.
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  Speaker 6: Like if they stay behind him, then you know you
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  Speaker 6: really have something with them. But if it just kind
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  Speaker 6: of fades awave, then it's like, all right, he was there,
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  Speaker 6: but we didn't quite connect.
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  Speaker 1: But Chris, that's my point is that the crowd has
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  Speaker 1: been high behind him is very said for eight months
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  Speaker 1: now since Grand Slam Mexico. I mean, the votes gave
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  Speaker 1: him at Brodido Awards, the reaction to the fans of
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  Speaker 1: the crowd are very supportive of him. I mean, what
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  Speaker 1: more do the fans need to do to get behind
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  Speaker 1: him other than throw panties into the into the ring.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm saying this will be his first big singles loss.
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  Speaker 6: People love, you know, cheering on the hero on his journey,
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  Speaker 6: but when he loses. That's when it shows, all right,
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  Speaker 6: did they really love him or did they just like
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  Speaker 6: watching them? They just like, Okay, he was fun, but
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  Speaker 6: now he's been be Let's find someone else, That's what
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  Speaker 6: I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well, I want to go to NET because NET
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  Speaker 1: has not actually spoken yet on this. What are your
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  Speaker 1: your opinions on this? You know, the brody King abolish
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  Speaker 1: Ice situation. I mean, I know that's not the right
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  Speaker 1: words to use, but it's the only thing I could
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  Speaker 1: think of.
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  Speaker 9: Well, I like brody King a lot. I liked him
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  Speaker 9: before this. I liked him in the tag Team. I
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  Speaker 9: think that it should just be left to happen. Whatever happens, happens.
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  Speaker 3: Leave it alone.
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  Speaker 9: It happened organically at the show. I don't think corporate
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  Speaker 9: should be involved in it. And I've been advocating for
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  Speaker 9: brody King to have a belt for a while. I
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  Speaker 9: know he's had the tag team championship, but I think
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  Speaker 9: he needs one on a singles run as well. Just
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  Speaker 9: leave it how it is, it's it's working, you know,
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  Speaker 9: don't don't mess with a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: So okay, well, Jess, you're the one who suggested, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, brought it up to begin with, was putting
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  Speaker 1: the strap on Brody King? What do you think I.
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  Speaker 3: Would love to see it because, like you, I've actually,
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  Speaker 3: like really liked Brodie King since he showed showed up,
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  Speaker 3: Like he's like big, he's cool, he's got the imposing
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  Speaker 3: look he's got there, he's got the wolf wolf he's
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  Speaker 3: got he's the lead singer of an awesome death metal band.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think that's right, Like it should be organic.
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  Speaker 3: It shouldn't be like it shouldn't the people these days
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  Speaker 3: have a good nose for bullshit if they Since it's
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  Speaker 3: being like corporatized there, it's gonna turn people off. And
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  Speaker 3: you don't want to turn people off in something like this.
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  Speaker 3: You want it to happen with let them feel it,
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  Speaker 3: let it happen.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I kind of want to move on. We
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  Speaker 1: will be talking about Brody King's match with MJF a
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  Speaker 1: Grand Slam and a little bit later on in this podcast,
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  Speaker 1: but I want to move on to aw in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty six is in my opinion, it's been on a roll.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: It's of course we've got aw getting mainstream news exposure
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: with the with the ice sentiment, the ratings, have been
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: going up a little bit, and so has the attendance.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: What do you attribute this to? Is the storytelling been
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: better or is there something else that has been I
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: guess making a people gravitate toward a w We'll take
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: a stab at it real quick.
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: I really think all these awards they've gotten really have
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: gotten in people's ears.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: It's the risk of dominating on the conversation.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: I think it's like both good booking on our part
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: and bad booking on the competition's part. People are getting
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: real sick of the way a certain mister Helmsley is booking.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: They're getting sick of that. They're getting sick of the
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: high ticket prices. I think now is a great time
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: for there to be a fresh alternative like that offers
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: better product at more affordable prices to actually go and
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: see it, so that could help. Also, like that's we've
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: pretty much been on a tear since uh what was
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: it all out of a last year? Yeah, just awesome storytelling,
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: awesome wrestling all around. Will Ausbrey's going to be coming
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: back soon, so that's only gonna help. So yeah, I
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: think it's like a little bit of all of that.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Do you think do you think let me just ask
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: you a question, do you think that the fact that
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: AW seems to be very aggressive in its signings and
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: getting those new signings out there and giving them meaningful
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: things to do, has that been maybe bringing in more interest?
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: You know, I would actually argue that has had the
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: least impact here when you look at who's in the
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: major programs, Champa notwithstanding, because he's the exception to this,
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Like everybody who's in the major programs has been here
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: for a while.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: They haven't, you know, hotshot at anybody.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: And I think what you're seeing now that the increases
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: are modest, and we need to see if it's an
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: actual trend or just some some statistical noise. But twenty
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: twenty five was a very solid and consistent creative year
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: for AW, and really in the back half of the year,
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: especially after all in they just they seem to have
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: everything planned out. And one of the things I've really
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: noticed this year is you almost have the entire at
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: least three the three big matches or segments for the
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: next dynamite announced, usually several matches for collision announced, And
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: there was a long time in twenty twenty three and
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty four where you didn't a week two week
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: what was going on. And the booking as far as
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: the pacings of the shows, they're creating good identities where
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Collision is very very heavy wrestling base with very little
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: backstage stuff, Dynamite still with more for a traditional split.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: I think it's just that consistency, and it takes a
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: long time to reverse course, and they've done so, and
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: now is when you see that work start to pay
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: off little by little. I don't know how much. WWE
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: maybe cooling off a little bit. They're nowhere near being cold.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Anybody who says they're not hot still as silly. They're
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: very hot. I'm not directing that at UJS. I just
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: see people on the internet saying that and they're dumb.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: I think it's more just Aw's being AW and they've
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: got a good brand now and a consistent set of
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: storytelling that's keeping people involved.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I kind of have to disagree with you a little
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: bit on that, Barry. As far as WWBA, the reason
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I'm saying this is that I was looking at a
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: chart with ratings for SmackDown and they are on SmackDown
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: is on a massive down swing. I mean, they've lost
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: since I believe September of last year. They're consistently down
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: five hundred six hundred thousand viewers.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: Tickets are still moving, man, I mean that.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Tickets to moving. But you know, I don't. I am
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: not one to to look at viewership as a barometer.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: But when you have a crash, you know, it was
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: the stock market, people would be concerned. And I'm sure
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: that w w E, t KO and the network are
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: concerned about the really sharp drop in viewership. You know.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I I don't think it's something that you could just
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: sweep under the rug, I guess, is what I'm saying
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: at discout completely.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but wasn't that all related to the big data
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: change with Nielsen and stuff? And that's one of the
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: reasons why some of the ratings have were covered like
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: AW got hit too, And then when meltzing them were
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: talking this week like they've each gotten back a couple
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: hundred thousand viewers for their ratings.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Well that that could very that could very well be.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that, of course WWE have more viewers
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: than AW, so any kind of discrepancy or drop is
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: going to be very much more noticeable of WWE than
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: it is an AW. I'm just saying that it is
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: a cause for concern considering also there's been a lot
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: more empty seats at WWE shows.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, how much of that is like the Vegas ticket struggle,
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: that's kind of a thing everybody's trying to make a
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: big deal out of, even big got right. Yeah, So
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: there's a lot going on right now that contributes to that.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: I do think WWE is hitting that price barrier where
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: they're starting to hit where it's just not affordable for
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: some folks, but for Mania in general. It's the second
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: year in her own in Vegas. International tourism is really
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: really down and ticket prices are higher than ever, and
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: I think those combined together are a big reason why
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: it is really really expensive to go to Vegas right now.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: And you just don't have people coming in to buy
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: those tickets.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, but you also have a lot of a
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: lot of domestic people that will probably go and buy tickets. Look,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: AW is known they sell out, a w is known
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: for late sellouts for their for their pay per views.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I fully expect, you know, WrestleMania Knights, one of Knight's
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: two of the fortnight Extravaganza to you sell out Jess,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: did you have something you want to add?
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: No, but I think NET did.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay, go ahead. That was me.
• 27:32
  Speaker 9: I was going to say that With a W, I
• 27:35
  Speaker 9: think that the reason that it is really starting to
• 27:38
  Speaker 9: pick up momentum, I think it has a few things.
• 27:43
  Speaker 9: One of those is that they have developed women's roster,
• 27:49
  Speaker 9: which isn't perfect, but it's getting there. And I think
• 27:56
  Speaker 9: that also something a A is really really good at
• 28:02
  Speaker 9: is allowing its wrestlers to wrestle on the independent scene
• 28:08
  Speaker 9: and a lot of people develop their favorite wrestlers and
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: the independence that they are over the moon to see
• 28:17
  Speaker 9: wrestling on TV. And I also think that AAW play
• 28:22
  Speaker 9: their cards right by partnering with CMLL because that brings
• 28:27
  Speaker 9: in a whole new audience to the AAW product. And
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: I think those things are all playing in with the
• 28:38
  Speaker 9: AAW back when it first started, and it's all coming
• 28:43
  Speaker 9: together kind of in this perfect storm. And also something
• 28:49
  Speaker 9: that I think is AW is really beginning to have
• 28:52
  Speaker 9: an advantage with and I said months ago, so I'm
• 28:56
  Speaker 9: going to toot my own horn, is that AAW is
• 29:00
  Speaker 9: uh is starting to have mixed tag matches, and I
• 29:05
  Speaker 9: think that that really does elevate the product, and it's
• 29:09
  Speaker 9: getting a whole new set of eyes onto a W
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: because a lot of people do like the mixed tag
• 29:16
  Speaker 9: and you don't have to have the men and the
• 29:19
  Speaker 9: women fight each other. But just this hair match that
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: they're having is a perfect example of that. And that's
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: why I think AW is starting to really find its
• 29:32
  Speaker 9: footing and get where it needs to be.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: That was an amazing answer.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you, Barry, really good points in there.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, thank you, thank you all. Thank you.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, everybody, let's uh you don't make a offering to
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: net that's to.
• 29:52
  Speaker 9: Strike yes, please please.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: You know that one of the things that you were
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: talking about.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: The Patreon, right, yeah, we had.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: We had talked earlier about TJPW coming to the States
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: and Texas Stampede. A lot of TJPW stars, which this
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Texas Stampede has taken place in late March, a lot
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: of AAW stars have wrestled in TJPW and TJPW stars
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: have wrestled in AW. So there is a chance that
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: there's an influx of uh special guests from TJPW Wrestling
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: next month in AW. As far as the women's go,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: then you also have to look at Stardom where they're
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: coming to the United States in April. So I wouldn't
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: mind seeing TJPW stars and Stardom stars coming in and
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: just wreaking a little bit of havoc in AW and
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: vice versa. I would be surprised if, perhaps, and I
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: do not know this for sure, that AW stars participate
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: in the Texas Stampede. There's always a good chance at that,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: and I'm hoping that on Sunday, on Saturday at four
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: pm on YouTube, when we do our talk with our
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: ama with Tokyo Story USA, that maybe they'll give us
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a hint about that, see if
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: some AW stars have been approached and if in fact
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: AW is going to be on their shows, because the
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: shows themselves as of right now don't have any cards.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: There are no cards for the shows. But hopefully on
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Saturday again at four pm on YouTube, we will be
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: able to find out at least some of the confirmed
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: participants from TJBW that are coming to the States for
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Texas Stampede.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: One other You can make it through that breathing Kelson,
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: did I forget his breath?
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: I was worried there for a bit. I said, man,
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: take a breath man.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Oh. We used to have one of my favorite people
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: in the world used to be on our podcast, Shane
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: d and he was really difficult to to edit. When
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: we used to edit the podcast, I had to manually
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: edit the podcast. And because Shane would not only talk
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: really fast, he would never take up take a breath,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: and it was just like one big long run on
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: sentence when you listen to Shane talk. And I loved it.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: He was Shane is one of the most passionate and
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: intelligent people I've ever met, and man, I miss him.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I wish you would come back onto these podcasts.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, with You're cold. I was impressed you were able
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: to go that long man without needing a breath.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I think it was I think it was probably Hey,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I've got some MOMENTUMY shouldn't stop. I got you got
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I have feeling a little woozy and lightheaded right now. Uh.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: I wish I could meet this guy. He sounds like,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: you know, if the micromachine man were really into wrestling.
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: Shane's and who Shane was fun.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Shane was great, you know, and I'm sure he still is.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: We just not had an opportunity to talk to him
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: for a while, and I, you know, personally, on a
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: personal note, I missed a hell out of the guy.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Back on topic, though, I did want to explore one
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: thing a W has, of course, dynamite and collision, and
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: we're just going to talk about dynamite and collision for
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: for just a few minutes. I had the questions I
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: have for you guys is this There's multiple questions here.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: One is do you think that a W has with
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: dynamite and collision? Have they set up a specific identity
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: for both of the both of the shows as far
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: as being set brands. Even though they're not like a
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: SmackDown and raw kind of thing, they do have their
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: own kind of personalities, I would say, at least in
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: my opinion. I'm interested in hearing your opinion on that. Also,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: and I did take a breath there by the way,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Barry also I heard it, Okay, I try to exaggerate
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: my breast when people don't get worried that it'll pass out.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Also when and this is something that Barry brought up
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: in our discussions prior to to show what the ratio
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: of wrestling to story interviews, et cetera. Do you think
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: that that is something that needs to be worked on
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: by AW or is it find the way it is?
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: In other words, does AW maybe have too much wrestling
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: and not enough of the other things or vice versa.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: That's like asking if there's too much cake at a
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: birthday party.
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: Right, Like, well, I want I want to see professional
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: wrestling in my professional wrestling show, like like there's I
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: don't want to say there's no such thing as too
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: much wrestling, because you know what, I enjoy a little
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: break up with like an interview or a fun segment
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: or things like that. That shouldn't be the main part
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: of the show. The wrestling should be the focus. I
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: like a good I mean, I'm good at like eighty twenty,
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: but seventy five twenty, I'm good at sixty forty, even
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: fifty to fifty. Anything over that, I'm like, I'm out.
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: I want to watch wrestling, not soap operas and drama
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: and all that. Like it's okay those it's fine in bits,
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: but I want more wrestling than anything.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: You don't want to go back to the old days
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: and like episodes of Nature that didn't have any wrestling
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: at all for the first hour.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Hell, they always had one lucha match in there. Man,
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: they always had one Lucher match. I don't think there's
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: any wrong way to present wrestling, you know, from a
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: proportion standpoint, but kind of what Chris was saying in Kelson,
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: I do think, you know, if you're tiptoeing in either
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: of the extremes, I don't know who you're catering to.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: It's just finding the right balance for where there's an
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: audience for it, and I think it's pretty clear there's
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: an audience for people who enjoy more wrestling and the
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: sports aspect and a little less backstage. You don't want
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: to go too far, but I've kind of enjoyed it.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: Seems like the experiments they're doing with that balance on
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: Dynamite and Collision Dynamite, there's been a lot of focus
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: on pacing. I thought the shows this year have been
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: paced really, really well. They balance where they do backstage stuff,
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: the types of matches to keep things pretty even, and
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: in Collision, it seems like they're experimenting to see how
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: far can we push the amount of wrestling on a
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: show and still not tire people out, Almost to the
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: point where, at least to me, this week, it almost
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: felt like there was too much, so from an identity standpoint, Kelson,
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: it does feel like they're kind of trying to fit
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: that groove a little more formally. I'm a big fan
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: of the pre show promos. I think it's a great,
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: really fast way to recap stuff and show, you know,
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: the purpose for the matches. But that was always something
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: that kind of was an identity for Collision, and I
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: was a little I liked it on Dynamite, but at
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: the same time, I was like, it was one of
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: the few things that really made Collision stand out.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: So yeah, well, I want to ask really specifically, do
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: you either view have a preference to Dynamite or Collision.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're different, but is one more up your
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: ally than the other?
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: I Dynamite is still the a show.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, yeah, I was going to say, like, iry,
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: go ahead.
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: I was like, totally, is probably a little more my style,
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: but I still love Dying of my Both shows are great,
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: and I like the different dynamites about I'd say a
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: fifty to fifty to fifty five forty five wrestling tellisions
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: about that seventy five twenty five, so you get so
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: for me, it's that good balance between both stows. I
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: like watching both. I always watch both. I ain't gonna
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: stop watching.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Both, all right, Jess, go ahead.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: I actually sort of fell out of watching Collision. I
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: fell out of it because it seems like nothing really
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: of consequence happened on it. But it turns out that I,
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: because I was mistaken and because I was dumb, I
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: missed my man Tamaso winning the D and D Championship.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: That's what I get. Uh So I'm gonna have to
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: start trying to watch a Collision more often.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Right now? What do you think?
• 38:55
  Speaker 9: I still watch them both.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: In many ways.
• 38:59
  Speaker 9: I think that they are completely different shows. Sometimes they
• 39:07
  Speaker 9: have the same people on, sometimes they don't. And one
• 39:12
  Speaker 9: thing that I noticed it's been a subtle switch. But
• 39:17
  Speaker 9: there are people. There are wrestlers that are very very
• 39:20
  Speaker 9: good at talking, and then there are wrestlers that are
• 39:24
  Speaker 9: exclusively good at wrestling, and they have begun to divide
• 39:30
  Speaker 9: the people into their specific talents. It's just become noticeable
• 39:38
  Speaker 9: to me. And I hate to do it to you, Kelson,
• 39:40
  Speaker 9: but I have to say I began to notice it
• 39:43
  Speaker 9: with Eddie Kingston. He is very very good on the mic,
• 39:47
  Speaker 9: and slowly but surely, they have kind of transitioned him
• 39:53
  Speaker 9: into segments where he really shines at talking, and all
• 39:59
  Speaker 9: you get it is, you know, five minutes of any
• 40:03
  Speaker 9: being angry at someone. He still wrestles, but the focus
• 40:07
  Speaker 9: is more on him talking, and I think it's a
• 40:12
  Speaker 9: unique shift. I think they do it a little bit
• 40:15
  Speaker 9: more on Collision. They've also started to do that with
• 40:18
  Speaker 9: Andrete and his Shenanigans, so I can notice where they
• 40:26
  Speaker 9: switch things around a little bit, and I like it.
• 40:29
  Speaker 9: I like them both. I think they're extremely well put
• 40:33
  Speaker 9: together shows. It's really good product. But I like to
• 40:38
  Speaker 9: hear the people who can talk talk and the people
• 40:42
  Speaker 9: who really get down to it and wrestle. I like
• 40:45
  Speaker 9: to see them just exclusively wrestle. They don't have to
• 40:47
  Speaker 9: say anything.
• 40:48
  Speaker 10: So yeah, right now, like in my opinion, In my opinion,
• 40:55
  Speaker 10: I would admit I'm much more of a dynamite guy,
• 40:58
  Speaker 10: and I will tell you why.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: And it has nothing to say that I dislike Collision
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: because I don't dislike Collision. I love Collision. I'm just
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: more of a dynamite guy. The reason why I probably
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: like Dynamite mor than Collision is that Collision is not
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: inconsistent as a show, but inconsistent in it's the day
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: of the week that it airs. Is there, is it
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: taped or is it live? That has a lot. I
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: mean it's kind of hard, especially when you run a
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: fan hub community to not see the spoilers for Collision
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: before Collision airs, and that's when it's taped, like on
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Wednesday or on a Thursday. I pretty much see, I
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: know what's happened, and it kind of makes the show
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: more difficult to watch and be interested in. You know
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Does that make sense? Yeah?
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: For sure?
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Same here.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well that was interesting, but I want
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: to move on because we have a real interesting week
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: coming up in a W because we got a W
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Dynamite tomorrow night with some really big matches, and then
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: of course we have Grand Slam Sydney coming up, and
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, there's is so much. I mean,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: we've got Brodie King, and we've got m j F.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: We've got the strap match between Tecla and Chris Statlander, We've.
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: Got just what is going on.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: There's some some goons out there that are gonna have
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: some fun with this one.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I just thought it was a cool graphic, but I
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: wasn't going for good gooda.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: It's the it's the it's the strap me up part
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: with that never mind forget anyways.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: You know what. Yeah, but anyway, look, i mean, but
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: you got the hair versus Okay, we got the hair
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: versus hair match, which is a lot of attention. I mean,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: look when you're looking at of course. And then you've
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: got the women's tag team match between World Championship match
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Megan Bain and Penelopal Befoard, which a lot of us
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: on this podcast want to Penelopy Forard and Meghan Bain
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: to be the first tag team champions in the women's division.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not even how good of a week
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: is this. We got Moxley and Takeshta going at it,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: and not a lot of people who are even talking
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: about that one as much. That's insane.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: It's the cards are nuts.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Champa against Fletcher on Dynamite, the Trio's
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Number one Contender match where we've got three teams, three
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: tag teams going for the number one contender and the
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Tag team division and one of the tag teams we
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: don't know who they are yet. That's on Dynamite. Kenny
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: o'began square Strickland it's insane what we're getting as far
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: as wrestling. It's like a one long pay per view
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: with a three day break in between them.
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: The cards are.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: Nuts, right, it's still a segment.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's just a face off, but you know
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: what it's writing.
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, still a lot of things. Just people think.
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: The women's tag title matches that Dynamite.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Or collision, that is dynamite.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: Okay, because so I noticed that both Harley and Fletcher
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: are wrestling on Dynamite.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry that is incorrect. The Women's Tag
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Team Championship match is Grand Slam Grand Slam. Yeah.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: I don't think they dropped the belts there. I can
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: see them at that in a rematch at the pay
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: per view totally. But you got to give Harley a
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: win there.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well what about Tecla and uh and stat Daddy
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: had to say, stat Daddy, that's not dynamite.
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: I don't know why she's strap Daddy. I don't know,
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: jes what do you or not? What do you?
• 45:13
  Speaker 9: Who do you think wins with Decla and Statlander?
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 45:18
  Speaker 9: I think Statlander is gonna win. I think she's gonna
• 45:22
  Speaker 9: retain her title. I kind of see Tecla. While she's
• 45:27
  Speaker 9: very good, I kind of see her as, uh, like
• 45:32
  Speaker 9: a fly on the wall. She's just buzzing around and
• 45:35
  Speaker 9: never leaves anyone alone. But I think Stat's going to retain.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Anybody else with the prediction about.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: That match, I disagree. I was actually kind of disappointed
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: when it didn't happen last week. But second time is
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: the charm. Go strap her up, stat Daddy.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe Jess you were. You had said, you
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: know before the first match, which stat Lander and Tecla
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: and I And I apologize if I misquote you here,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: but I pretty much remember you saying something to you
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: bet that stat Lander's run just isn't doing it for you.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: It's not I'm sorry. It's not that I don't like
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: stat I love her really honestly. She's just like a
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: better but she's better at chasing it. I think.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: No, we got MJF and Brody King, and I'm gonna
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: throw something out there, Buddy Matthews. You think there's any
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: chance we see Buddy Matthews come out?
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, I would very much like that. I love that.
• 46:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I'd like to see it.
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: I hope he's at least on the show. Even if
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: he's not involved.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Well he can get involved. I mean, I mean, Buddy,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: could you know, just kick MJF in the face and
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: get his long time tag Parker the championship.
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: I think they're really particular about letting anybody be physical
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: if they're not cleared, regardless somebody else at a restriction.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: They couldn't do something like that one still remember, but
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: that's that's exactly what I picture in my head too. Yeah,
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: like that would be great if they can do.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Let me throw something else out there at Buddy Matthew
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: kick Brodie King in the face. After all, Buddy Matthews
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: in k fabe jealous of Brodie King and his partnership
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: with Bandido, you know, I mean, that's a good story
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: right there.
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: Like he could be like, Okay, hey, you know he's achebag,
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: but he's a smooth talker, he's got the money. Like,
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: look at this guy. He's just abandoned you. He went
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: off with another partner. Doesn't care about you.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Right, because one thing, and it doesn't matter if Buddy
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Matthews is cleared to wrestle or not, because you don't
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: have to be a wrestler to be involved in a story.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Don Kallis is a very good example of that. So,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can't get Buddy Matthews involved in this,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: and he's got to be getting at least closer to
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: getting back.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: I was thinking too, Buddy was Buddy was getting open.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: You know, they were getting their babyface team before he
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: got hurt. And so you can't bring him. He can't
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: really bring him BA because I don't know if he's
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: strong enough as a babyface on his own as a
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: singles program. So you know, to your point, Calton, if
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: that was the way they brought him back, assuming he
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: was ready, I don't think he is. But if he was,
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: I think he was probably the way to go. I
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: think you're probably right on.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, Buddy Matthews could be member nine hundred
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: and forty three of the Don Kallis family. Well, and
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: you never know, you.
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: Have Buddy Field. That gives Broading a story you know,
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: away from the title, but still in focus. It keeps
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: people like, oh man, this guy got betrayed. Now we
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: love him even more.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's.
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: What if Buddy joins the triangle of madness?
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: There you go, Julia anymore exactly. Well, here's the thing.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I mean again, as I said earlier,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: these cards are stacked for Dynamite and Grand Slam. It's
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: gonna be musty TV in my opinion. We're gonna have
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun on the LI chats on our
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: discord tomorrow night. I guarantee, I guarantee it's gonna be
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of talking points. Then we're gonna go right
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: into because we're running a little bit long on time,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I want to go into one of our favorite segments,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: which is It's.
• 49:41
  Speaker 11: A see the graphic the grah I made is one
• 49:51
  Speaker 11: of the most I just don't know how to explain it.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: I I really don't. And so here it is.
• 50:00
  Speaker 6: This will haunt me until the day I do.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: That is very haunting. If we're the people that are not.
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: Did you say it's.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: It's very haunting. If if for those who are not
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: watching us and listening to us on the audio, the
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: the the graphic is, It's not a sin, sister, Sometimes
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: sins have it upside. And the picture of the wrestler
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: this week is Julia Hart dresses and on with the mustache.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: It just it is the worst photoshop ID I've ever had.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: I think I pulled it off. Pretty well. Uh, but
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: you know what it is.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: You know what it is.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: You know, Yes, it is a very disturbing thing. And
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Julia Hart's gonna girl mustache turned
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: baby face. Yeah, but I don't know. I don't know
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: why that popped into my hand. I was sick when
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I did this, and after I did it, I was like, well,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: it's too late. Now I've done it. So does anybody have?
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: And it's a a fabe for this week?
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Dan Hausen tweeted a picture. There was no text
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: on this tweet. It was just a screenshot from SpongeBob
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: square Pants of Squidwards sadly looking out his window watching
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: SpongeBob and Pat Patrick frolic and it made me a
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: little sad. He really wants to wrestle but he can't.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: Just oh, sorry, it's.
• 51:52
  Speaker 9: Okay, it's okay.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: I didn't mean to steal your bob.
• 51:56
  Speaker 9: No, you didn't know. Let's discuss Dan Hills.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: Okay. Does anybody else feel bad for Dan Housen?
• 52:04
  Speaker 9: Absolutely not No, No, I don't no, not even a little.
• 52:11
  Speaker 9: Do you feel bad for just a little?
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I just don't like seeing people that
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: I like, or used to like more than I like
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: them Now I I still kind of have a soft
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: spot for him. I can't help it. I see his
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: channel when he's such a delight, But I I know
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: he's also on the he Cozy Cozy's up to a
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: certain hypocrite more than I much more than I'd like.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Hypocrite. Who could that be? Excuse me, you have to
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: take a pet let's swig of my PEPs here. Okay,
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: who could that be?
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: Oh gosh, Like I don't know. I'm just trying to
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: play it tender punk punk Excuse me.
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: You guys?
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, look, you know I have nothing against Dan
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Housen other than the fact that he really did other
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: than his merchandise sales, which were very very much uh
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: talked about, he did nothing in the ring. I mean,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: there's always so many people you can curse, you know,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: and frankly cursed the only who has sold the curse
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: really well? Was it Regal? Yes?
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: That well a couple of times too.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean Dan Housen was a in a
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: w is not. It just was not a good fit
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: for Dan Housen. He was a completely one dimensional character
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: for me, did not.
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: A character that's great for the indies. You know, you
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: see him once a month. He does the stakes, he
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: makes you ask he can have a have a solid match.
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: You know, He's not a character that really didn't sustain
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: every week like otherwise he gets a little old like
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: on and months.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, all right, Barry as a Michigander and
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: fellow native Detroiter like Dan Housen is, I will always
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: appreciate his basement paneling, which is every basement panel that
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: I ever saw as a child growing up. He's going
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: to be wonderful and triple a.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: You know. The thing, the thing that I think really
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: expresses my thoughts about Dan Housen and his entire run
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: in aw The most memorable thing he memorable thing he
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: did during his entire AAW run was that time in
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: the Indies when machiedo ate his teeth. I mean, that
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: just doesn't sound right, but if you know Dan Housen,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. She was snacking on
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: his teeth walking around the ring, you know. So, I
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: mean that's the most memorable thing I could think of
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: other than just him cursing everybody. How many matches did
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: he have an A w and r O H three
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: maybe I don't know.
• 55:01
  Speaker 6: An amount of like trios and hate Man and maybe
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: some ten. Yeah, I mean he didn't have many.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: I mean I I can't say I hate dan Housen.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: That'd be a lie, because over in my room I
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: have I love that Dan Housen flag and two uh
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: dan Housen micro brawlers, one of which is autographed. It's
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: he's wearing the Flower crowd from from a Midsummer It's
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: it's a very cute micro brawler.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: Didn't work out and that's why it's good. Yeah, it
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: just didn't work out in a w and that's why
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: it's important, just more than one national wrestling organization, because
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: he could go try it somewhere else.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: He does anybody else have a cafabe? Well? I have one.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: You know again, we've got aw has Grand Slam Australia
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: coming up. Does anybody see a debut or return happening
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: I already mentioned earlier, Buddy Matthew is a strong possibility.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: One other that I do see maybe happening in Grand
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Slam Australia or Grand Slam Sydney. I should say, uh
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: laid Across, who has been long rubor to have already
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: signed with AW. She is Australian. I mean she's gonna debut.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: We would probably be best for a debut on her
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: home turf.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: Johnny Gargano, that's a total wishful that's total wishful thinking.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: But Johnny Gargana, Johnny Gargano. Has there been any rumblings
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: at all about Johnny Gargano and a W I haven't heard,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: not that I know of.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Like I said, it's total wishful thinking. Champas here, Johnny
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: needs to be here. They belong together.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: That's true. Maybe it's maybe it could happen, but I
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: haven't even heard a single rumbling about it. Anybody else
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: with a with the Kiff hobby.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a real quick one. So earlier in
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: the show I mentioned Rich Gulicksen and so if you
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: want to check him out, he's on Blue Sky. I
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: would encourage you to follow him if you enjoy learning
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: about how TV is produced from a network. I don't
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: mean like ABCNBC, but like headquarters with satellite and you've
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: got to do on location and all the challenges and
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: weird things. It's a really cool account. He talks a
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: lot about what goes into producing stuff for TNT and
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: the Warner channels. He's a wrestling fan, so he's always
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: got an interesting factor too on the show. It's a
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: really interesting Twitter account or not Twitter account, blue Sky account.
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: He may be on Twitter, I don't know, but an
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: account on Blue Sky if you're on there to check
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: out if you're an aw fan and you're curious about
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: that kind of thing.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. Anybody else, no one else.
• 57:46
  Speaker 6: I'll do the it's not a New Japan rundown this week.
• 57:50
  Speaker 6: It is a New Japan the hype up because we
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: are about two hours and forty five minutes away from
• 57:59
  Speaker 6: the New Beginning at New Japan New Beginning in Osaka,
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: at least if you're gonna watch the kickoff match like
• 58:05
  Speaker 6: I am. If not, Main Cards starts thirty minutes later.
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: Yoda Suji versus Jake Lee for the IWGP Heavyweight title.
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: Gabe Kid versus Andrade. The winner will face Yoda Sunti
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: at the New Beginning USA on February twenty seventh for
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: the IWTP Global title. Yes he holds both titles. Never
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: six man tag titles on the line. David Finley versus
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: Tallum Newman the IWGP heavyweight tag titles, the Knockout Brothers
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: or Show to Umino u Mura, the Never six man
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: tag titles on the line eight nine matches including the
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: kickoff great card relatively early start time for most of us.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Right, what you can watch that on n j PW
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: World Right, Yes, Okay, And basically what you're saying is
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: that don't expect to see Gabe kid Or Andrade live
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: on Dynamite tomorrow. You could have just said that. You
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: could have just led with that.
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: Already having like the best year of his career, man
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: like run this year.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Around so far, Well, as I said earlier, we're going
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: to have a hell of a good show on Dynamite.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: It seems like I really do think that Dynamites and
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: and Grand Slam are going to be exemplary this this week. Uh,
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: the live chat should be hopping and uh we will
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: see uh you guys again next week at eight forty
• 59:53
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• 1:00:56
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