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Turnbuckles n Stogies The Locker Room Smoke Out · Military Broadcast Radio | MBR Talk

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  big dog. Yo, what is up?
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  What is up? Happy Sunday, Happy fun day.
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  It is me, the big dog, the vanilla gorilla.
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  And you are told in a turnbuckle and Stogie's power we're
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  supposed to have a guest. I don't know if it's coming on
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  he's. Over.
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  It's not. It's not really so much.
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  He's a founder. He's one of his founders.
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  He's somebody who wanted to come on the show and hang out with us
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  and and see what he's been up to.
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  So we sent him the invite if he comes on.
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  The week after they'll be 4 and O5 and O6 and O.
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  Then they go on a page and then they come back at 7 and O.
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  You heard it hit. 1st, I don't, I don't see, I don't see an
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  undefeated season, but I definitely see a very good
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  winning season, that's for sure. Of course we got a good, we got
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  a hell of a coach. Yeah, who was I going to start
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  off? Well, first up, your shoes are
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  on the wrong feet. No, they're not.
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  Oh, all right, my feet across the let's, let's kind of I, I
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  want to touch on this 'cause, you know, this is a conversation
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  that's been kind of not a conversation, but this is
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  something that we all learned through smoking with different
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  people about stuff like this, right?
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  These little, I mean, these little things right here.
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  If you want a palate cleanser, that's that's the the ways to
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  go. My palate cleanser is a dark
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  chocolate. I don't do ginger snaps, I'm
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  sorry. It's not ginger snaps, it's
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  ginger chews, but it's lemon and a dark chocolate is a good way
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  to kill nicotine. I clicked it to the wrong part
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  of my shirt. Oh yeah.
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  Yeah, there's there's a lot that's kind of gone on, a lot of
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  releases, a lot of new stuff. You guys have heard some of it
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  here. We have M and Dollar cigars
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  coming on next week. We have RM cigars coming on in
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  October. We're talking to Black Stogies
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  now. So there will be a special
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  Wednesday night episode coming. I've already cleared that with
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  our radio station. So you guys will see a Wednesday
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  night episode of Turnbuckles and Stogies with us and Black
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  Stogies. They're going to give us a date.
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  We are in talks with Cayman Cigars to come back on and who
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  is it, Daniel And Domain is going to come back on with his
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  new brand, Pariah Cigars. But yeah, there's, there's a
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  lot. Let's you know, let's kind of
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  touch on this because we were listening to the video earlier.
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  So we had this conversation over on TikTok doing some lives.
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  Instagram now is starting to flag the cigar culture as
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  sexually explicit or suggestive content.
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  I think that's kind of crazy because it's not even close to
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  any of that, especially if, well, I won't say if when you
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  have all these other people on there doing some very explicit
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  thing, explicit things and posting some very explicit
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  videos. But we can't go on there and
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  have a cigar and talk to our friends and and the people in
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  the industry where, you know, TikTok has kind of afforded us
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  that opportunity now. Yes, TikTok has kind of slowed
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  down and unflagging the cigar smoking, you know, now you get
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  restricted for regulated goods and services, which is
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  understandable. It's stupid because there's no
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  pricing being talked or no selling being done.
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  But because it is a regulated good, they flag you and I I
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  think. So if you're saying somebody
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  like us that has cigars coming out and I say, hey, send me a
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  payment. We're gonna get flagged.
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  Yeah, you can't do that. OK, cool.
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  You can't do that. You just you tell them, hit you
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  up and we'll get it fixed because you can't do all that on
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  there, which is understandable. I get that that's OK.
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  You know, most places and most most companies don't like that
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  and it's understandable because they're not getting a cut of it
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  and it it makes sense. But Tiktok, you can't sell stuff
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  like that on there, which again, completely understandable
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  because it is such a niche market.
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  And let's take that taking a picture for everybody to post on
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  the stories so everybody can come hang out with us.
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  So let's get to some some wrestling.
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  I haven't watched them all, I've watched Smackdown.
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  I thought Smackdown this week was a pretty damn good show,
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  especially the last match with Sami Zayn who has now been
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  championed 8 days. So from what I'm also hearing
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  too, I was reading that some of that this morning.
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  So the way that that match ended wasn't supposed to be the way it
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  ended. What are you talking about?
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  The way that that match ended right was sorry guys when Punk
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  hit KO with the belt. That wasn't this week.
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  Yeah, it wasn't. There on Friday night.
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  No, it wasn't Punk wasn't there Friday night.
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  Punk was not there Friday night. Sure about that.
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  I'm positive. Because that's not what I read.
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  But either way, whatever I read when Punk hit KO with the belt,
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  whether it was last week, last last week, Friday night, who
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  gave, who cares? That was supposed to be the end
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  of the match and the referee didn't count to three or
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  something to that effect. So that's when Sammy had to hit
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  another haluva kick and that's how they had to end the match
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  because the refs screwed up. Well hey then the refs should be
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  fired. No, he probably, he definitely
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  got chewed out in the back, that's for sure.
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  I mean, listen, things happen. We all know that.
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  You know that as well as I do. Shit like that happens.
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  It, it is what it is. I mean, there's, there's nothing
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  we can do to fix that. Not at all.
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  We can't fix that. They can't fix that.
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  You know, just things happen, people forget whatever.
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  You know, it's there's a lot that's gone on this last couple
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  weeks as far as wrestling wise. You've got Cody finally, I think
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  embracing it and really showing, you know, more of what we're
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  used to seeing from him. You know, he's, he's the
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  farthest and, and you know, it was, it was stated best earlier
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  during the week that he's the farthest away from, you know,
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  when he came in and, and he didn't take anything from nobody
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  from that WrestleMania 40 match when he finished the story.
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  You know, he's and, and that Hell in a Cell and he's, he's so
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  far removed from that that I think it's time he's going to go
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  back. And he really needs to kind of
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  finish the story, not finish the story.
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  He needs to really hone that aggressiveness that, you know,
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  attitude, you know, and, and like you said, you know, like
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  they, like he told Michael Cole, you know, after the cameras cut
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  and he he told Michael it was a great interview, thank you,
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  whatever. And he leaned in and he told
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  Michael that next time he's not going to make the same mistake
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  like you did it Sunday night's main event, and he's going to
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  kick Randy's head off. Yeah, I don't think that's
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  happening. Randy's going to be the 17th
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  time world champion. No, he's going for 15 right now.
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  I, I do think Randy gets 17. Personally think he gets 17.
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  I think he's in that same echelon as John.
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  He's always Randy's always been a box office attraction for
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  them. Randy is the only.
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  Wrestler left out of that OBW class to.
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  Fight all the Samoans. Not yet.
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  Except Umanga's kid, Zilla. Who is making waves in NXT?
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  That is coming up in the near the very near future.
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  That's all I'm going to say. I do believe when he gets called
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  up, I, I do think you'll see him versus Randy.
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  I I do think you'll see some stuff there.
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  Because he idolizes Randy. And he's a lot of them do.
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  And you know, Randy Randy's been around a very long time. 28
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  years. Yup, and he's still competing at
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  a very high level. He's almost 50 years old.
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  He's still competing at a very high level.
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  He's still out there hanging, you know, hanging with the young
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  guys and and really showing them.
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  Smoke in his ganja. You know, he's really showing
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  them what ring psychology is. You know, Randy is a very smart
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  in ring psychologist. He knows how to really work a
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  body part. He knows how to work the crowd.
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  He knows how to, you know, make you sit on the edge of your
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  seat. He knows how to make you hate
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  him and how to love him all at the same time.
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  Correct. I think by the end of the year,
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  if not going into the rumble, I think you see Randy get 15.
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  And I, I do think Randy hits that 17 mark.
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  I think Randy hit 17. And I think him and John go in
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  that class by themselves. Yeah, I'm, I mean, I see that.
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  I don't think everybody else does.
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  But I see Randy going and getting 17 and and him and John
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  being in that same class of that GOAT status and, and really, you
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  know, he's he's the only one left out of that class.
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  Yes. Everybody else is pretty much
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  gone. I mean, Mickie James is still
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  around. She wrestles from time to time,
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  you know, not all the time, but she does.
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  But I think out of that class Randy is still the only full
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  time active in ring competitor out of that 2002 or 2001 OBW
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  class. Correct.
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  But if you think about it, it's crazy because you know, the last
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  really 3 standing out of that class were Brock, John and
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  Randy. Oh no, I'm sorry, there's still
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  one more left. I'm wrong?
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  Who's that? Shelton.
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  Yeah, but Shelton's not in the WWE.
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  Doesn't matter though, he's still competing at a very high
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  level as well in AEW. He is AEW Ring of Honor.
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  He's still competing at a very, very high level.
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  He is. So, you know, that's that's
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  another thing too, is, you know, there, there was a lot of
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  sleepers in that class like Shelton.
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  Mickie James is another one who was destined for greatness.
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  And she was. Yeah, I think Yale Kim came out
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  of that class Victoria. I mean, there were so many.
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  That class was loaded with star power, loaded with star power
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  and and a lot of them went on to become champions.
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  Multiple times they did. Men's, women's, whatever.
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  Wow. I should stop the show and take
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  this call. What do you think?
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  No all. Right.
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  No, sorry, my apologies. Something personal.
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  Yeah, it's, it's crazy that, you know, the only ones really left
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  out of that class are Randy and Shelton, and they're still
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  competing at a very high level. You know, Shelton's over there
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  in AW and Ring of Honor hanging with the young guys and showing
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  them, you know, the generation that came before them and how
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  they did business and, and really how they kind of showed
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  out without having to do all of the high spots.
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  You know, Shelton did do a lot of high spots, but he also
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  worked, he worked the mat, he worked the ground game, the
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  submission holds. He did it all.
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  So it's, it's very, it's very nice to see guys like that still
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  out there doing it and at a very, very, very high level.
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  I I think Shelton is criminally underrated.
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  Very. I think he should have been a
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  world champion a couple times, but that doesn't mean that
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  that's not going to happen in AW.
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  Who knows? Do I think they're going back to
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  the WWE, him and Bobby? Absolutely not.
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  No, the only way I see Shelton going back is for a Hall of Fame
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  induction. And that's.
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  It and that wouldn't be too far off.
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  That wouldn't be that really wouldn't be too far off.
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  But it's still wrestling, not getting a Hall of.
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  Fame, but you could put you could put him, you could put
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  Kurt Angle and Charlie Hosson as team Angle.
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  I mean, they were, they weren't around a very long time, but
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  they made a very big impact for the time, for the year or two
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  that they were around. They did.
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  And then Shelton went off on his own and had multiple tag titles,
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  multiple Intercontinental, multiple US title runs.
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  So he's he's kind of and he's transitioned with the times too.
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  You know, he left and went to Japan and became part of a
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  faction over there. I believe it was Suzuki gun.
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  He was part of that faction. He did numbers in Japan for
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  years and years came back to the states.
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  You know, when he re signed with WWE, he did Ring of Honor shots
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  in between that he teamed with Charlie Haas quite a few times.
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  So I mean, listen, that whole that whole class was a really
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  was a different breed, you know? Oh, having that OVW territory
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  was to me, I think was great. I love NXT the way it is now.
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  Yes, but OVW was kind of a different animal because OVW
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  didn't just stay in one spot. Nope.
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  They had their home base at the Davis Arena, where they still
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  are till this day, But they did spot shows all around Kentucky
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  and Tennessee. And I got to ask a question.
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  Do they still have that guy that bought into, you know, they got
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  rid of him? I don't believe he's part of it
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  anymore. I think somebody else bought
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  into it and bought him out. I think I could be wrong.
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  Again, I could be completely wrong.
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  Don't quote me on that. I, I, I looked into it briefly.
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  I think he's he might still be part owner, but I know Al Snow
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  and and Doug or Danny Basham are still running it.
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  Danny or Doug, I can't remember which one, I think it's Danny
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  are still running OVW, still training the guys and the girls
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  and, you know, teaching them how to work.
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  And, and Jim is teaching them that 80s Southern style where
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  Jim was teaching them that 80s Southern style where now Al and
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  and Danny are kind of giving them that all around because Al
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  was around when the territories were there.
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  But Al didn't start. Al started in like what, the
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  late 80s, early 90s, yes. So you know, he, he had his runs
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  in WWEWCWECW out did Japan quite a bit I believe as well.
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  So he's and he's very well versed whether it's mixed
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  martial arts, judo, stuff like that.
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  AL's kind of done a little bit of everything and he still gets
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  in the ring too now, which is nice.
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  You know, he still gets in there.
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  He doesn't do it all the time, but he does still get in the
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  ring and and, you know, compete with these young guys at such a
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  high level again. And he's another one who is in
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  tremendous shape till this day. He is very.
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  So is, but so is the Basham. I'm not saying that so is Danny.
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  I think it's Danny. Basham is down there.
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  So is he. I mean, he still gets in the
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  ring too, you know. I mean, they had JBL down there
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  as Bradshaw last week or a couple last month teamed with
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  cash flow. Cash flows in the house.
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  You know, they did like a, a Texas, they did like a
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  basically, it was a fight. Wasn't cash flow in a movie?
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  He was in, he was in Tulsa King. He did acting in Tulsa King.
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  He's been. The cash flow has been around a
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  very long time. Yes, he has.
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  I want to say since the late 90s, early 2000s, he's really
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  been out there and on the road and putting the miles in and,
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  and he's somebody who really, you know, again, loves the
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  business the way it is and he's having a great time.
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  Just loving it. So on that note, guys, we're
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  going to take a commercial break and we will be right back.
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  Yes, Sir, yes, Sir, We are back. We are back.
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  Listen, so I'm just pulling up my lighting guys.
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  Sorry, don't mind me. Yeah.
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  So there was a lot that's gone on in wrestling.
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  All Out was fucking fantastic. Or All In.
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  All Out is next weekend or the other way around, I forget.
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  Money in the banks coming up in couple weeks in October all.
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  Outs tonight. No, not next weekend, the 26th.
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  What? No, that's on on the 26th.
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  Hold on. You got I got you got money in
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  the bank coming, which to me I I think like Ron is in there,
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  which is great. Trick.
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  I think you could have put Dragon League or somebody else
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  or Ray Phoenix in that spot. Even Penta.
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  I don't think Trick needs it in. What spot?
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  The money in the bank spot where trick is, I don't, I don't think
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  trick. Needs it.
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  But what they're going to do and, and it's it, they're going
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  to basically Trick's probably going to win and he's going to
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  renew his robbery with Sammy for the title and then Trick's going
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  to probably beat him for the belt.
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  I mean, it's not bad. I wouldn't mind Trick as champ.
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  I think there's a lot of other people you can put in that spot
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  because Trick's already over. Penta's over, yes.
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  But I, I think after Mexico City, I think Penta really needs
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  a shot at at another shot at the belt.
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  But yo, what's up? What's up?
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  What's up? Who's that?
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  I can't, I can't see, I can't see the picture.
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  What's up? What's going on?
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  Oh, wait, actually, I think that's Mike.
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  Mike. Mike, this thing was gentlemen.
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  Mike, what's up, buddy? Thanks for.
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  Joining. Yeah.
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  I can't, I can't see. But the picture, the picture for
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  some reason doesn't come up as big as it used to.
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  It's weird. Yeah, man, there's there's a lot
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  of people you can put in that spot that probably would
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  flourish in spots like that. The vision.
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  I think the vision's great the way it is.
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  I mean, eventually it's got to break off.
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  Yeah, See, I was right. It is.
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  Mike thought so. I can't see the picture because
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  for some reason it used to be bigger and now it's smaller on
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  here. I don't know.
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  I don't run the tech side of this whole ordeal.
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  I just produced the show. Yeah.
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  You could have put so many guys in that spot that are, you know,
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  not that LA Knight needs. I think LA Knight should beat
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  Roman for the title. I think he should.
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  I think he should whip Romans. But I think I'm going to tell
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  you, I'm going to tell you exactly what's going to happen.
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  LA Knight's going to lose. They're going to set up Roman
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  and Oba at WrestleMania, and Oba's going to win and Oba's
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  going to win. But then you put the belt on
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  Oba. If you have everybody lose to
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  Roman, who's going to beat Oba? That's the problem you're going
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  to run into. It's who's going to be If you're
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  having Roman run through the whole entire freaking roster,
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  who's going to be over because you just showed that hat your
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  half your roster can't hang with the big guys.
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  Somebody's coming through to be over.
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  But that's what I'm saying it, you see what I mean?
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  Like it doesn't. You had granted, granted, Penton
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  did get over a lot more than he was before.
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  Because you know, Roman, him and Roman worked so well together.
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  Roman took the Mexican destroyer.
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  He took all kinds of moves that Penta had.
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  So I mean, it's possible. I mean, do I think LA Night
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  wins? I could see LA Night and Penta
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  for the title down the line. Oba doesn't.
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  Oba doesn't need the belt. That's the thing.
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  Oba does not need the title. Oba is already so over on his
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  own. Oba is Oba Femi Oba Oba Oba.
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  I'm still smoking the same cigar from this morning.
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  Yeah, Oba is already as over as I think you can get really
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  without a belt. And I don't even think he needs
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  the title. I do think you'll see.
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  I do think you'll see him with Paul Heyman at some point.
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  I do. There's talks and people make a
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  good point when he read, when, you know, when he faces the
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  vision, he's going to need guidance or he's going to need a
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  partner. I mean, and who better to go to?
• 28:40
  Do I think he do? I think I you see Brock come
• 28:43
  back for like a one off night, maybe potentially.
• 28:47
  I mean, do I think this retirement is final?
• 28:49
  I do Paul Heyman has said it himself, correct?
• 28:52
  You know, it's it's a it's an interesting kind of dilemma
• 28:58
  because you know, you get to the point where Oba has to wrestle
• 29:01
  or face these guys or fight these guys and you know, he's
• 29:05
  got no allies, essentially. Who does he go to?
• 29:09
  The guy he beat at Summer Slam and at WrestleMania, now who
• 29:14
  knows if that's going to come to fruition or not.
• 29:17
  We're we're just sitting here talking to you guys about it.
• 29:20
  We don't actually know if it's going to happen.
• 29:21
  Oh no, I only wrestled for 20. Five years.
• 29:24
  That cigar was very good. Pro especiale by AJ.
• 29:27
  I'm going to go light up my other one now.
• 29:31
  So don't forget turnbuckles and Stoveys got their own cigars
• 29:36
  out. They're they're out.
• 29:38
  You guys can order them you. Guys got to send us Adm.
• 29:42
  Send me Adm. Spot turnbuckles and stoke.
• 29:45
  Yeah. And we'll.
• 29:48
  We'll get you squared away. They should squared away if you
• 29:51
  I mean they should be in hands hopefully soon.
• 29:55
  In the next two to three weeks. Yeah, I should have had some on
• 29:59
  hand. When we have them, I'll show
• 30:01
  you. When we have them smoking.
• 30:02
  A motherfucker. We'll do a video on them, you
• 30:06
  know, just us explaining what they are, where they came from.
• 30:11
  They came from the ground. Yeah, I know what you're saying.
• 30:14
  But you know, we'll we'll really go kind of dive into the blend,
• 30:19
  you know, and kind of give people what we think notes wise
• 30:21
  that that the check. Us out on TikTok too.
• 30:24
  Yeah, we go live on TikTok. Turnbuckles and Stogie's does
• 30:27
  have a TikTok. You guys can go over there and
• 30:29
  follow that term at start. Using.
• 30:31
  That turnbuckles and stogie's pot I do.
• 30:33
  I have content I got to post, but I can get it on the computer
• 30:37
  now and post videos from there. So I can post a lot of our
• 30:41
  shorts that people see on YouTube or on Facebook, and I
• 30:44
  can kind of send it over to TikTok because I didn't realize
• 30:48
  I could do that from here. So now that I can, you'll see a
• 30:51
  lot more content posted because a lot of it is on here.
• 30:54
  You can do it from your. Phone, yes, but a lot of it is
• 30:56
  on the computer and rather than have to e-mail it to myself, I
• 31:01
  can just go on here and just post them and schedule posts to
• 31:04
  go out if. You give me the shit, I can do
• 31:06
  it myself. I'm home all day.
• 31:07
  You got nothing to do. But yeah, I mean, now let's
• 31:17
  let's kind of transition, right and kind of go into cigars and
• 31:23
  stuff like that because there's there's a lot of not
• 31:26
  misconception, but it's a concept, not a concept really
• 31:29
  conversation. We've had a lot of people don't
• 31:33
  smoke higher than a 60 ring. I mean, I don't I usually don't.
• 31:38
  There are some cigars. I do try to smoke bigger rings
• 31:41
  like I am going to light up. Yes, Sir, Mike, yes, it's a it's
• 31:47
  like a limited, a limited kind of run.
• 31:49
  Yes, just to see how things go. It's a it's one cigar, nothing
• 31:53
  crazy. It's going to be a little like 4
• 31:57
  by 38 or not 38, four by 52 like a flying pig size.
• 32:02
  It's going to be a Maduro. I don't have the blend in front
• 32:05
  of me, he told me. Told me I should have wrote it
• 32:08
  down. I didn't.
• 32:09
  That's on me. I.
• 32:11
  Think I have it, but look at my Texas.
• 32:16
  They they're, they're coming out of Florida with a guy down
• 32:19
  there, but they will be in our hands in the next week or two.
• 32:23
  I'm going to try to order at least a bundle from him to have
• 32:26
  to show you guys and kind of, you know, do a little video with
• 32:30
  you. We'll sit here and you know,
• 32:33
  we'll smoke them and kind of give you a breakdown.
• 32:35
  I have the bands so you guys can see.
• 32:46
  It's not a pig, it's a aftershock.
• 32:48
  He calls it an aftershock. That's the size he calls it.
• 32:53
  I mean, it is still along those same lines as a flying pig.
• 32:56
  What? Did Mike say?
• 32:59
  Absolutely, Mike, for sure. We'll we'll definitely connect
• 33:03
  on that one for sure. But yeah, this is this is what
• 33:05
  the bands are going to look like.
• 33:06
  Guys, as you guys can see, it's basically that belt that's back
• 33:12
  here behind us. We just took this part and and
• 33:16
  sent it to him and he kind of really, he did a very nice job
• 33:20
  making the belt look beautiful and and nice.
• 33:22
  And you know, there's, there's little nuances on the belt.
• 33:26
  I mean, if you haven't figured it out, if you look at it,
• 33:32
  there's the side plates are kind of matched up with who's on each
• 33:35
  side. You know, that that was my
• 33:38
  little kind of thing that I did. And so you get kind of you could
• 33:42
  cut the belt in half and you can have each side that you want.
• 33:47
  But yeah, man, those, those are, those are already made.
• 33:49
  They're ready to go. I just, I haven't ordered them.
• 33:51
  I've been super busy. I got to place an order with
• 33:54
  them, but I'm pairing my Asylum with my coffee.
• 34:00
  I overdid my Creamer by accident this morning.
• 34:03
  I wasn't paying attention and poured too much so it's a lot
• 34:07
  lighter and sweeter than I would like.
• 34:09
  But now I am going to light up my Asylum. 13 seven by 70 Box
• 34:15
  Press. It's not going to last the whole
• 34:17
  show. Yeah, well, no, only got about
• 34:22
  an hour left. Yes, I'm chewing on my palate
• 34:29
  cleanser, which absolutely works fantastic.
• 34:35
  I might actually spit this one out.
• 34:39
  It's a Espinoza. Yeah, it's not a it's not bad,
• 34:44
  but I'm ready to have my my cigar, so I just need to cleanse
• 34:50
  my palate and clean it off so that it's nice and fresh.
• 34:57
  Oh, this isn't going to fit, is it?
• 35:00
  Nope. Yeah.
• 35:04
  I got one right here. Use this one.
• 35:08
  This one will fit. There we go.
• 35:14
  So now, obviously I'm going to light this guy up.
• 35:18
  As you can see, though, box pressed and this conversation
• 35:21
  has come up quite a bit about box pressed and round cigars.
• 35:26
  The reason a box press burns a lot cooler and hits your palate
• 35:30
  a lot cleaner and and cooler, as well as when you're puffing on a
• 35:35
  box pressed cigar, you know you're you're puffing in air as
• 35:40
  well through the sides of your mouth because the sides of your
• 35:42
  mouth aren't closed around the cigar.
• 35:45
  So that's why a lot of people prefer box presses.
• 35:49
  I mean it, it definitely feels weird in your hand, but it's not
• 35:52
  bad, you know? By the way, he bought that
• 36:08
  without me. I bought this the other day.
• 36:15
  Bought it without me. I bought an.
• 36:17
  I also accidentally bought a 770 Jaime Garcia by my father.
• 36:21
  That was a complete accident that was completely
• 36:25
  unintentional. Joey doesn't buy nothing by
• 36:27
  accident, just for everybody. No, that was by accident.
• 36:30
  I thought that was a 60 ring gauge.
• 36:32
  I didn't. Buy anything by accident, it's
• 36:34
  all on purpose. That was actually by accident.
• 36:38
  That was not on purpose. I thought it was a 60 ring and
• 36:41
  by the time I paid for it and looked at the label, I've seen
• 36:45
  it was a 70. And at that point I just, it is
• 36:47
  what it is. I already paid for it.
• 36:49
  I'm going to smoke it regardless.
• 36:51
  Have you smoked it already? Yeah, it it took me a long time
• 36:54
  to smoke that one. How long?
• 36:56
  A couple hours. At at least I think it took Me 2
• 37:00
  1/2 hours if not 3. What did Mike say?
• 37:04
  Yeah, he said. No problem.
• 37:05
  Anything you can do to help? Absolutely.
• 37:07
  Well, we are. We're we're here to try to kind
• 37:13
  of pick brains of, you know, we've picked brains of a lot of
• 37:15
  people. We had Wyndham cigars on was it
• 37:19
  last week with Ish and the week before they had their own show
• 37:22
  with us. They're a new brand.
• 37:25
  Only do robustos, only robustos which they have a great freaking
• 37:31
  lineup, and and. Not because they're our friends.
• 37:34
  No. And then Mike in the comments
• 37:35
  will tell you he, Wyndham has a great lineup.
• 37:38
  They have a Connecticut, a Habano, a Colorado, a Cameroon
• 37:43
  and a Maduro. They're doing some interesting
• 37:45
  things over there. And I, I'm, I'm excited for
• 37:48
  them. We had a lot of fun with them
• 37:51
  talking with those guys. Great cigars.
• 37:55
  Not just because they're our friends.
• 37:56
  They are great cigars. They got a cigar for everybody.
• 37:59
  If you like your Maderos. Not spicy or not.
• 38:03
  Yeah, when I say spicy, I mean, not a big pepper bomb like an AJ
• 38:06
  or something like an Asylum, which I don't mind these now, a
• 38:22
  lot of people don't. Now let's let's go back to what
• 38:24
  we were talking about before, because this conversation has
• 38:27
  come up quite a bit in the last few days about ringgage sizes.
• 38:31
  The Toro and the Reboost are the two highly produced and highly
• 38:35
  selling sizes in the world. Yeah, see, he he even enjoyed
• 38:41
  them. I mean, that seems to be a
• 38:43
  unanimous thing across the board with them.
• 38:45
  You know, everybody that's tried them, those Wyndham cigars,
• 38:49
  those 5 lines they came out with, everybody seems to be
• 38:51
  enjoying. Now as far as the ring gauges
• 38:57
  go, I, I feel the reason a lot of these big ring gauges and,
• 39:03
  and I do it too, I'm guilty. Sometimes I'll buy them because
• 39:07
  they're, they're between 12 and 15 bucks, but you're getting a
• 39:09
  lot of smoke out of them that you are, you know, you're
• 39:12
  getting, you're getting your money's worth where you get a
• 39:15
  lot of these toros and these robustos and, and stuff like
• 39:18
  that. And you don't, you buy them 1015
• 39:20
  bucks and you know, they're not really worth it.
• 39:24
  And there are brands out there that don't have, that, have
• 39:27
  those sizes that really aren't worth the price.
• 39:30
  And that's, that's not a, a knock on the brand.
• 39:33
  It's just maybe whoever they're working with, they need to go
• 39:36
  back to the drawing board, Who knows?
• 39:38
  Time out. Let's go to a conversation Mike
• 39:41
  had on TikTok last night, and I was sitting here listening.
• 39:46
  Which one every. Time I interfered, I got blocked
• 39:49
  by the luxury cigar company. Luxury.
• 39:53
  You didn't get blocked by him. Yeah, but he interfered.
• 39:56
  So my thing is this he's always talking about, well, if you sell
• 40:03
  it to a cigar company, you just forget about it.
• 40:06
  So if I sell you. Ten boxes of my cigars.
• 40:11
  I I know where you're going. And I go into the shop and those
• 40:15
  ten boxes are still filled. Whose fault is that?
• 40:19
  That's not mine. But I want my I want my stuff to
• 40:22
  get out there. Well, it's 10 to $12.00.
• 40:24
  So that's. That's the way it should be,
• 40:27
  right? But that's what he was saying
• 40:29
  is, you know, if the lounge isn't promoting it, then you as
• 40:33
  a brand owner have to step in and be like, listen, it's not
• 40:36
  moving. Let's do an event, let's do a
• 40:38
  cutting, like something like that.
• 40:39
  Because if they're not going to promote it, you have to be in
• 40:41
  there to promote it. Right, but how many times can I
• 40:43
  go to the same cigar? Correct.
• 40:45
  Say, hey, well, The thing is though, but The thing is, and,
• 40:48
  and that's a, that's one of those concepts is if you're
• 40:51
  there promoting it or even if you're following up with them
• 40:54
  asking how sales are going, you know, and you're, you're putting
• 40:57
  up that, hey, they're in, you know, ABC Lounge in Colorado.
• 41:03
  People are going to go there if they're looking for them, right?
• 41:06
  People know they're there, but you have to do the promotion as
• 41:08
  law as well as with the lounge, right?
• 41:11
  A lot of problems with the lounges are, and we've all seen
• 41:14
  it. They don't promote the boutique
• 41:16
  stuff properly and it it happens.
• 41:19
  But I feel, and I've, I could say the same thing because
• 41:22
  working in a, working for a boutique company, I had to go in
• 41:28
  there to some of the lounges and, and some of the smoke shops
• 41:31
  that my cigars were in for the company I was working for and
• 41:34
  really push them and, and promote them because they
• 41:37
  weren't moving. And when they don't move, that
• 41:47
  was what I was trying to get my hands around.
• 41:50
  What? What you were saying is make.
• 41:53
  The screen. Big, I can't 'cause then you
• 41:55
  can't see comments, right? No, you're, you're right.
• 41:57
  And, and that's, that's what it is, is, you know, it's, you can
• 42:01
  get in there as many times as you want, right?
• 42:04
  And, and, and he, you both make good points.
• 42:07
  You can get in there as many times you want.
• 42:08
  If that lounge doesn't help you push those cigars even after
• 42:11
  those events, you know, then maybe that's not a lounge for
• 42:14
  you. And that's where you do a,
• 42:16
  that's where you do a buy back, like a lot of companies do.
• 42:19
  You buy the product back. And if it moves in John's lounge
• 42:24
  3 miles up the road, you're going to take that product back
• 42:27
  and say, Hey, John, you know what?
• 42:28
  This lounge doesn't move, but I know yours does.
• 42:31
  You sell them at a discount or you you sell them.
• 42:34
  You know however you do it. Mike, let me ask you this.
• 42:36
  You want to jump on real fast, I'll send you a I'll send you a
• 42:39
  e-mail. Jump on Mike.
• 42:43
  Joey, send your e-mail. Send Joey A a text or e-mail.
• 42:50
  You know, it's, it's that whole concept is really interesting.
• 42:54
  It's, it's because you can promote it as much as possible.
• 42:57
  But if that lounge is not helping you promote and it's
• 43:00
  kind of a A1 sided thing, maybe that's not a lounge you work
• 43:05
  with. Or maybe you sit down and say,
• 43:06
  hey, listen, I'm doing the promoting, I'm doing this, I'm
• 43:09
  doing that. We'd love to do something with
• 43:13
  you. But you know, yeah, whenever
• 43:17
  you're ready, Mike, you just let me know and I'll, I'll send you
• 43:20
  the invite and you could come come up and we'll kind of you.
• 43:23
  Got 1/2 hour. We'll kind of talk about this
• 43:25
  because it's, it's an interesting, it's a concept that
• 43:29
  I think a lot of people misconstrue, where as a brand
• 43:34
  owner, you can go in, promote all the cigars, all the company
• 43:37
  you want. But the problem you run into is
• 43:41
  if that lounge isn't giving you back and helping you promote it
• 43:44
  as well, then it's a conflict because you're doing all the
• 43:47
  promoting. Yes, it's your brand, yes, your
• 43:49
  new company, whatever. But The thing is, is if you do
• 43:52
  all the promoting and the lounge doesn't do anything then or
• 43:57
  they're, they're in a corner where nobody notices them, you
• 44:00
  know, and that's what we were saying is if you bring in new
• 44:03
  stuff in your humidors, you should put all your new stuff in
• 44:07
  one spot so that people know that this is all new.
• 44:10
  Try the new stuff, whatever. Here's what I'm saying.
• 44:13
  So if I if I put out turnbuckles in Stogie's pot, right and I
• 44:18
  say, hey, we're going over to New Windsor, we're going up to
• 44:23
  Hyde Park, we're going to Florida, NY, we're going down to
• 44:28
  the New York City, we're going all over.
• 44:30
  So we got to hit them shops after they buy them and make
• 44:34
  sure that we're not in the corner store that we're in the
• 44:38
  main spot. And if not, I'm going to be
• 44:40
  pissed off because my cigars are new my.
• 44:57
  No. That says.
• 44:59
  OK, we're back. That says in in pink, bright
• 45:02
  blue, bright, orange, bright. I mean, listen, whatever.
• 45:04
  It's in new cigars. That that also has to do with
• 45:07
  the promotion of the lounge. If the lounge doesn't do that
• 45:09
  with any of the new stuff they get, whether it's big brands,
• 45:13
  boutique brands, middle of the road brands, if they're not
• 45:17
  doing that and they're only pushing their legacy stuff, no
• 45:19
  matter what you have is never going to move.
• 45:23
  Well, legacy brands don't need a listen.
• 45:25
  Yet legacy brands don't need it, but they still they still do get
• 45:28
  the promotion from the lounge. Let's be honest, I'll.
• 45:30
  Say this like it said it last week, it said legacy brands are
• 45:36
  always going to be a legacy, but the boutique brands coming up
• 45:41
  are the ones you got to watch out for.
• 45:43
  Oh, 100%. If you don't watch out for
• 45:46
  those, you're in trouble. You're in trouble because when
• 45:53
  the legacy branch, listen, turnbuckles and stogies, we're
• 45:57
  doing a we're doing a one off. If that one off sells out, you
• 46:02
  dudes is in trouble because I'm not promoting nobody.
• 46:05
  I'm promoting my brand. I mean, if there's listen, if
• 46:08
  there's a one off that, you know, if it's a one off and it
• 46:15
  moves, hey, listen, we're not going to say we're going to
• 46:17
  break the bank. You know, we're not going to
• 46:18
  break the cycle. We're just going to change
• 46:20
  things up, try to keep it the same.
• 46:22
  We'll go with a different size. But that's The thing is, you
• 46:24
  know, lounges really are your your partner essentially, when
• 46:29
  you when you put your cigars in there, that lounge now becomes a
• 46:32
  partner, right, because they're carrying your product and any
• 46:37
  good lounge as a good partner is going to push the new stuff
• 46:42
  coming in correct. Now as a brand owner though, and
• 46:47
  I say this because if you don't have reps yet or you're as a
• 46:50
  brand owner, you should be in those lounges at least twice a
• 46:55
  month, 3 * a month checking and seeing how your sales are doing.
• 47:02
  Now you mean like in the one we go to in Connecticut Butt heads
• 47:08
  where the guy only shows up when Kevin calls them?
• 47:12
  I mean, they're. Yeah.
• 47:13
  Listen. I mean, hey.
• 47:14
  I'm not. I don't know what brand it is.
• 47:16
  I'm not going out names because I really don't know.
• 47:17
  I'm not. An owner.
• 47:18
  But if I got to call you to show up, I don't need you.
• 47:21
  I can promote your shit without you.
• 47:22
  Yeah, it's that's the way it works.
• 47:25
  You know what it is? It's not so much promoted, it's
• 47:27
  just the more FaceTime you get in the lounges and you get with
• 47:31
  these owners, you start doing events, cutting lights, you
• 47:34
  sponsor a, a, you know, a, a Sunday football Sunday event and
• 47:40
  that you know, they buy 5, they get one free or they buy 3, get
• 47:43
  one, buy 5, get 2. You buy a box, you get 5,
• 47:47
  whatever you know by you going in there and doing these cutting
• 47:51
  lights with these lounges as a boutique brand, whether it's
• 47:55
  pairing with an event they have going on or an opening or
• 47:58
  something like that, it's getting your name out there.
• 48:01
  Plus it's also putting the product in people's hands to
• 48:04
  try. And once they try it, they're
• 48:05
  going to be more inclined to go back and buy more.
• 48:08
  Correct. So on that note, guys, we're
• 48:10
  going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.
• 52:14
  What is up? What is up?
• 52:15
  Yo? It's Turnbucks and Stogie's pot.
• 52:17
  Shout out to the New York Giants.
• 52:18
  I am the big dog. This the vanilla gorilla.
• 52:20
  We are turnbuckles and Stogie's pot here on Sunday Fun day.
• 52:24
  If y'all ain't with Sunday fun day, y'all know what y'all got
• 52:26
  to do. So let's get back to cigar
• 52:34
  etiquette. Not etiquette.
• 52:36
  Should I not? Speak.
• 52:37
  It's not etiquette. It's, it's just, you know, when
• 52:40
  you're working with lounges, it gets kind of tough, especially,
• 52:43
  you know, when lounges and lounge owners don't highlight
• 52:48
  the boutique brands and kind of just stick them in a back
• 52:53
  corner. We've all seen it.
• 52:54
  They stick them right in the back corner and they really,
• 52:57
  really don't promote them. And then those brands sit there
• 53:03
  and, and they sit there and sit there.
• 53:05
  And then, you know, one day somebody picks them up, tries
• 53:08
  them, and, you know, then it's looking for the lounge owner to
• 53:13
  bring in more and they won't bring them in because they
• 53:14
  weren't moving because either the brand owner didn't come in
• 53:18
  all the time, didn't follow up with them, or the lounge just
• 53:22
  simply didn't promote them properly.
• 53:25
  You know, and that's, that's kind of where I say it's a
• 53:30
  partnership because if the lounge isn't going to promote
• 53:33
  it, then, you know, you shouldn't be working with that
• 53:36
  lounge anymore, correct. You know, if you're not going
• 53:39
  to, if they're not going to promote it and they're not going
• 53:42
  to help you get your brand out there and try to figure out, you
• 53:45
  know, dates for events or something like that, or, you
• 53:48
  know, a cut light or anything, then, you know, you either need
• 53:52
  to go in as the the brand owner and take initiative and just be
• 53:55
  there when people come in. You know, even if you go every
• 53:58
  other day, every couple days, check in, you sit there for a
• 54:02
  few hours, Hey, I'll be back later.
• 54:05
  You come back later on when there's more of a crowd.
• 54:06
  Hey, I'm so and so from such and such brand.
• 54:10
  Here's our cigars. You know, they're here if you
• 54:12
  want to try them, but try this one as a sample and let them
• 54:15
  smoke it, you know, and I think a lot of companies now, you
• 54:19
  know, are starting to just send them to people to try to get
• 54:26
  their name out there to get the the brand out there.
• 54:29
  Because once the people start promoting it and people start
• 54:31
  paying attention to it and they're in lounges now, people
• 54:34
  will start buying them. And it'll be a lot easier to get
• 54:37
  into lounges as a brand owner to start doing events because
• 54:40
  there's a demand for it. And a lot of people too, want to
• 54:45
  meet the owners behind the cigar and hear their stories about how
• 54:49
  they got started and why they just decide to do their own
• 54:51
  brand. So let's talk about how we got
• 54:54
  started. People know how we got started.
• 54:57
  We got started when me, my son, the guy that was supposed to be
• 55:02
  on today, Kyle and shout out to the OG with his new thing,
• 55:07
  whatever. So me and Joey got started about
• 55:13
  three years ago when my wife got sick.
• 55:17
  We started our cigars and everybody kept asking when's the
• 55:21
  cigar coming? When's the cigar coming?
• 55:23
  Well, the cigars are here. The cigars are ready.
• 55:26
  They're they're made. So it's a matter of you guys
• 55:29
  helping us. You know, we're going to order
• 55:31
  our, we're going to order them to have them on hand, but
• 55:34
  they're made. If anybody wants them, you know,
• 55:37
  shoot me a message. We'll get it squared away.
• 55:39
  You just probably have to wait for them to get here to get to
• 55:44
  you guys. But that money comes in.
• 55:51
  And we don't. We don't ever actually see it.
• 55:53
  It goes right to the guy that made our cigars.
• 55:57
  Now with that being said, you know, it's it's definitely a
• 56:01
  different size. It's not something that
• 56:03
  everybody uses in the very beginning.
• 56:07
  They use it down the line as a limited run whatever.
• 56:10
  Ours is limited, one year limited.
• 56:12
  It is a limited run just to kind of test the waters and see if
• 56:17
  there's a market for it. Now, if there is a market for
• 56:22
  it, maybe we'll try a different size and see if we can get a
• 56:24
  market for that as well. Maybe a different wrapper.
• 56:29
  This one is a Maduro. So maybe the next one we do is a
• 56:33
  Habano, but it'll be a different size, you know, and and people
• 56:40
  can really kind of see the growth of the brand.
• 56:44
  I mean, if it works, it works. I'm not going to, you know, push
• 56:49
  the envelope any I'm not going to fix what's not broken because
• 56:55
  if that works, why would I change?
• 56:58
  Essentially, Yeah, man, it's definitely rough trying to greet
• 57:06
  your own brand and your own lines and stuff.
• 57:09
  Like that, when you're trying to create your own line, it's tough
• 57:12
  because you got to get all kind of taste, all kind of flavors.
• 57:19
  Well, not all. Kind of different.
• 57:21
  But if you're working with a blender that knows what he's
• 57:24
  what they're doing, you can give them what you're looking for and
• 57:28
  they can pretty much like our guy did, send us a bunch of
• 57:31
  samples with bands on them, said it would kind of look like the
• 57:35
  final product. So you guys will be able to see.
• 57:38
  And that's what we did. You know, we, we sat there and
• 57:42
  we, we smoked Connecticut's Habanos Maduros, Cameroon, which
• 57:51
  we did, we did like quite a few of them.
• 57:53
  So there is a potential for those that come on down the line
• 57:57
  and you know, get introduced into the atmosphere through us
• 58:03
  for our brand, which we're excited about.
• 58:09
  So that is that is done. That is a done deal.
• 58:12
  Now you probably won't see anything from us bigger than a
• 58:15
  60 ring, maybe a limited run 70, but that's very like.
• 58:21
  I'm not doing a 70. Ring, that's why I said it.
• 58:24
  If it is, it's going to be a very it's going to be a very one
• 58:28
  off like limited to X amount of bundles and that's going to be
• 58:32
  it. It's not going to be crazy.
• 58:33
  It's not going to be a full time release because there's not
• 58:36
  really a market for it. You know, it definitely would
• 58:40
  set us aside from some boutique brands for sure, which we want
• 58:45
  to do. But at the same time we want to
• 58:47
  put stuff out there into the market that you know it's going
• 58:53
  to sell. And 70s and 80s and all that is
• 58:57
  an acquired ringgage that a lot of people like, but it's very
• 59:01
  limited to who likes and who doesn't like.
• 59:03
  And just so y'all know, our cigars have to do with
• 59:09
  wrestling. It doesn't have to do with
• 59:13
  cigars, it has to do with wrestling.
• 59:17
  Just so y'all know that. I'm just saying you're not going
• 59:25
  to have a cigar like he's smoking right now, by the way.
• 59:28
  No. And if you did, it would be a
• 59:30
  limited run. It would have a, you know, it'd
• 59:34
  be a limited run. It would have a wrestling team
• 59:36
  name, which I've already kind of played around with names for a
• 59:42
  limited run in this big of a ringgage size just because
• 59:47
  that's what I do, you know. And then there's there's
• 59:51
  opportunities to expand off our line and, and really kind of go
• 59:57
  certain places with them and, and I've kind of put ideas
• 1:00:02
  together and people have thrown ideas at me and.
• 1:00:06
  You know, there's there's wheels turning up there for you guys to
• 1:00:08
  see more from us personally. Yeah, but we want to, you know,
• 1:00:13
  this is the point of the show. We want to shout out all of our
• 1:00:15
  sponsors, the TPAB AM F 4 Johns Apparel, who now hosts our
• 1:00:22
  merch, our merch store. You can get your hat, you can
• 1:00:25
  get a redesigned LJNT shirt design that we have that I came
• 1:00:30
  up with. You can get our logo that you
• 1:00:32
  see behind you on this tapestry flag thing that they call it.
• 1:00:37
  We're going to try to have long sleeve shirts and sweatshirts
• 1:00:39
  for the winter time hats, if that's even doable.
• 1:00:42
  I got to sit down with our guys this week being that we are
• 1:00:45
  getting closer to that that area.
• 1:00:48
  We want to start putting some of that out there and I'll have
• 1:00:50
  some product for me to wear on the show and for you to wear and
• 1:00:54
  and kind of show you guys the quality because I've had some of
• 1:00:57
  their shirts. The quality is fantastic.
• 1:01:01
  Spell correct. You know, go, go over there to 4
• 1:01:05
  Johns apparel.com, go get your stuff.
• 1:01:09
  You can get us. You can get smoking sounds.
• 1:01:14
  I believe either lounge life or howling with Big Al is on there
• 1:01:18
  as well. There's quite a few different
• 1:01:20
  podcasts on there. We're just happy to be part of
• 1:01:23
  the four Johns family with those guys, father and son, veteran
• 1:01:26
  owned and and former police owned business.
• 1:01:31
  So, you know, we like to, we like to support guys like that
• 1:01:35
  and they were great enough to bring us on.
• 1:01:37
  We have a design that they did as well on our store.
• 1:01:41
  We have our first hat on the store.
• 1:01:44
  So you know, you guys, we're we're working on some stuff.
• 1:01:46
  Eventually maybe there'll be some lighters and cutters and
• 1:01:50
  stuff like that that you guys can get.
• 1:01:53
  But again, that's, that's just kind of that's in the works.
• 1:01:56
  It's not stuff that's going to happen now.
• 1:01:59
  I do think maybe we'll start buying a couple of turnbuckles
• 1:02:01
  and stogies branded lighters for us to try and just run testing
• 1:02:06
  through and see what you got, you know, see what works for us
• 1:02:09
  and what we want to put out there.
• 1:02:12
  I know a soft flame is kind of a big thing that a lot of people
• 1:02:14
  enjoy now. So we'll look into something
• 1:02:17
  like that potentially. You know, obviously you're going
• 1:02:20
  to have your torch lighters, you're going to have your
• 1:02:22
  perfect cuts. So you know, we're we're
• 1:02:25
  looking, we're we're putting stuff out there now that we're
• 1:02:27
  at the point, you know, we're at that four year mark just about,
• 1:02:30
  you know, we're going to try to do a really big giveaway next
• 1:02:35
  year. I got a a fresh box that I'm
• 1:02:37
  going to be giving away as well. Hold on.
• 1:02:40
  We have a, we have somebody that joined us.
• 1:02:44
  Who joined? Us hold on.
• 1:02:48
  There's no there's no camera yet.
• 1:02:49
  So I'll I'll give it a minute. But is that a member?
• 1:02:56
  No. Camera should have been working.
• 1:03:04
  Guys, can you hear me? Yeah, I had my camera on.
• 1:03:06
  I don't know what happened, sorry.
• 1:03:07
  Hang on. Yeah, it was a black screen.
• 1:03:08
  It's all good. It happens.
• 1:03:10
  What's up, Mike? Good morning, guys.
• 1:03:13
  Can you see me? Can you hear me?
• 1:03:14
  We can hear you. Oh, wait.
• 1:03:15
  Hold on. Hold on.
• 1:03:17
  Hold on a second. Let's see.
• 1:03:19
  There we go. Thank you for thank you for the
• 1:03:22
  invite. I wasn't expecting it, you know?
• 1:03:24
  I had to go put my makeup and get my hair done, you know?
• 1:03:28
  It's all right. It's OK, You know we.
• 1:03:30
  The time out, time out, time out, coach time out.
• 1:03:35
  You had to put on your makeup. Why are you yelling?
• 1:03:37
  As sexy as. You look put your microphone up
• 1:03:40
  more as. Sexy as you look.
• 1:03:42
  Put your. Shout out to my man Mike.
• 1:03:44
  Distinguished Gentleman. Put your microphone up a little
• 1:03:46
  more. Put it up here, though, so that
• 1:03:48
  you don't have to yell. I yell.
• 1:03:50
  Yes you are. So why yelling in my ear?
• 1:03:55
  What is going on, brother? Nothing.
• 1:03:57
  I appreciate the invite, man. I I don't of course, but Joey
• 1:04:00
  and I said I support all and everybody doing the content and
• 1:04:04
  everything with cigars. I'm by all means, you know, I
• 1:04:08
  don't blend. I don't have a lounge on to do
• 1:04:10
  anything. I'm a I'm a customer first.
• 1:04:12
  Absolutely. And a content creator second.
• 1:04:15
  So I think I want to get that out there.
• 1:04:16
  I don't want, I don't want people to get that confused,
• 1:04:19
  right? But I love conversation with
• 1:04:22
  people. I like smoking cigars and
• 1:04:23
  everybody I like them doing and you guys pop.
• 1:04:25
  Oh, and I think I've been doing this now for probably nine
• 1:04:28
  months now. And the the engagement that I'm
• 1:04:32
  getting, the participation I'm getting from everybody has been
• 1:04:35
  excellent. It's been fun, but I like
• 1:04:38
  learning things. And what you brought up
• 1:04:39
  yesterday about the, well, you brought up our conversation we
• 1:04:42
  had yesterday with a couple of the guys about whose
• 1:04:45
  responsibility is it really once the cigars get into the lounge?
• 1:04:53
  And I was bouncing it off all in my head because I'm, you know,
• 1:04:57
  again, if anybody that's in sales that you're always
• 1:04:59
  selling, right? Every day, you're always selling
• 1:05:01
  no matter what. But even though you sold that
• 1:05:04
  product to somebody, it still has your name on it.
• 1:05:09
  Correct. And I think that's where, you
• 1:05:12
  know, because I was, again, that's why I said I was trying
• 1:05:14
  to get my hands around it because I was listening to
• 1:05:16
  everybody's side of it. And what was most important,
• 1:05:22
  what I was hearing, which nobody was really saying out loud, is
• 1:05:26
  the relationship. I think, I think by all means
• 1:05:30
  that is so much bigger, that is so much bigger than everything
• 1:05:34
  else. Because again, you could be
• 1:05:36
  selling the worst item in the world, but if you have a great
• 1:05:39
  relationship and a rapport with people, they'll still buy you
• 1:05:43
  before they buy the product. Right.
• 1:05:45
  And they, and they know that you'll stand behind your product
• 1:05:48
  a little bit more because if something was to go wrong,
• 1:05:50
  right, they know that I can call Joey up at a minute at a time.
• 1:05:54
  Joey, look, man, this, this widget, right?
• 1:05:57
  This widget that you, you sold me is, is just crap.
• 1:06:00
  I'm getting all these complaints.
• 1:06:01
  And the first thing hopefully Joey would say, you know what,
• 1:06:04
  Mike, I got you. I've been I know, I understand
• 1:06:06
  we're having some complaints on this.
• 1:06:07
  This is what's going on. I'm going to buy back everything
• 1:06:10
  that you have, but I'm going to replace whatever you got or you
• 1:06:13
  just say, you know what, just give them away to whatever
• 1:06:15
  somebody. I'm going to replace everything
• 1:06:17
  you got because I. Want to get this?
• 1:06:18
  Right. And I think sometimes people
• 1:06:23
  jump into a lot of things before they really learn about it.
• 1:06:27
  And I don't want, you know, I don't want anybody to go back to
• 1:06:28
  me and say, oh, Mike thinks he's an expert out of.
• 1:06:30
  His body no, no, but you're, you're, you're right.
• 1:06:33
  And that's that's why I was kind of talking about that
• 1:06:35
  partnership aspect because as a lounge, as a lounge owner, if
• 1:06:40
  you bring in, if I bring in your brand and you're promoting it,
• 1:06:44
  but I'm not, I'm doing our partnership or like you said,
• 1:06:47
  our relationship a disservice by not trying to make sure that,
• 1:06:52
  you know, it gets into the hands of the customers.
• 1:06:55
  And and Mike, here's here's another thing, Mike.
• 1:06:57
  So like the partnership, right? So if I sell you 10 boxes of my
• 1:07:06
  cigars, correct? And you go, oh, Dave got these
• 1:07:12
  boxes and they're good and they're good and nobody buys
• 1:07:15
  them. And I call you like a month
• 1:07:17
  later, I'm like, has cigars working out.
• 1:07:20
  You're like, bro, nobody's buying them.
• 1:07:22
  Well, what are you doing? I'm I got them on a box.
• 1:07:27
  OK, but and then that also goes to the fact of if if you if they
• 1:07:31
  call you like Mike said, if they're not moving, then you
• 1:07:34
  either hey, let's, let's replace them.
• 1:07:36
  What's going on? Where are they?
• 1:07:38
  Or it's, you know, like it was brought up yesterday.
• 1:07:41
  Well, then if they're not moving, let's do an event or
• 1:07:43
  let's do a cut and light because now you're getting in front of
• 1:07:47
  the customers. I I.
• 1:07:49
  Think again and this is what this is what goes back to the
• 1:07:54
  boutique and legacy issues of me just hearing everybody's
• 1:07:57
  conversation from all different angles, right?
• 1:08:00
  The hardest thing that you have to accomplish is to be able to
• 1:08:03
  get your box in there, right? Right.
• 1:08:06
  So you so once you get the box in there, I would think you
• 1:08:10
  should be over zealous and excitement should still be
• 1:08:13
  there. It shouldn't wait a month for a
• 1:08:15
  phone call. You should already have, you
• 1:08:18
  should already have the tracking info.
• 1:08:19
  Once that box is there, you should say, you know what?
• 1:08:22
  Would you mind if I do a pop up one night and just do something
• 1:08:25
  at the lounge? Oh well, I have this schedule
• 1:08:27
  for another event. I understand that, but you don't
• 1:08:29
  got to pay for it. I'm I'll just come and bring
• 1:08:30
  something. I'll come in and just at least
• 1:08:32
  let me smoke some cigars with some of the people inside the
• 1:08:35
  lounge. Let me talk about my blend, let
• 1:08:37
  you know, look at that person. Get that.
• 1:08:39
  Get that touch to touch, kind of.
• 1:08:40
  Thing and that's that's The thing is the FaceTime with the
• 1:08:43
  brand owners that a lot of people love.
• 1:08:45
  So let me ask you this, Mike. So we've been on TikTok and, and
• 1:08:51
  all of that. So let me ask you this.
• 1:08:54
  So if I said to you, you were Sir owner of a lounge, and I
• 1:09:00
  said, hey Mike, I'm coming into your lounge today, let's set
• 1:09:05
  something up. And you said no.
• 1:09:07
  And I show up and I start promoting my cigars.
• 1:09:10
  What would you do? Well one, if I owned a lounge, I
• 1:09:15
  want as much foot traffic as I can possible to get in it.
• 1:09:18
  And the less energy as a lounge owner has to create themself the
• 1:09:23
  better off your being right? I mean it takes a village for
• 1:09:25
  any of this stuff. It shouldn't just take one
• 1:09:27
  person because as a lounge, as a lounge owner, they're already
• 1:09:31
  doing enough. I mean, you know what I mean?
• 1:09:32
  I mean, they could always do more, but I mean, shit, if you
• 1:09:34
  think about it, they probably got a lot of people coming at
• 1:09:37
  them anyway. Hopefully.
• 1:09:39
  If not, then then there's something wrong with that
• 1:09:41
  relationship there too. Exactly.
• 1:09:43
  But, but that's where I was saying to Joey too, you know,
• 1:09:45
  the legacy brands, they've been around long enough that they're
• 1:09:49
  self promoting, they're self promoting, they're self
• 1:09:52
  promoting just because we're talking about stuff, you know
• 1:09:54
  what I mean? It's, it's already there at the
• 1:09:57
  boutique, at the boutique level, they do need to be massaged a
• 1:10:02
  little bit more. They need to be handheld a
• 1:10:04
  little bit more, but they need to also be present there.
• 1:10:09
  And that's where, because everybody goes whose
• 1:10:10
  responsibility? I was like, well, they already
• 1:10:13
  took a risk bringing your cigar in their lounge.
• 1:10:16
  You know what I mean? Like they've already they, they
• 1:10:18
  already forked out the money. So I don't, I don't put the
• 1:10:21
  emphasis all 100% on them. I mean, it could, you know, it's
• 1:10:25
  not Teddy. It's not like Teddy Pendergrass
• 1:10:26
  5050 love, right? You know, it could be a little,
• 1:10:29
  it could be a little, it could be a little 4060, you know what
• 1:10:32
  I mean? Like it could be a little 4060.
• 1:10:34
  It could. Be give me a little 4060.
• 1:10:36
  Hold on, you know it could time out.
• 1:10:39
  But but they have to do something.
• 1:10:42
  No, it's, it's true. And, and I think too, you know,
• 1:10:45
  like you said, that really goes back to the relationship you
• 1:10:47
  have with them. And, and again, any good lounge
• 1:10:50
  owner who takes a chance on your stuff, if they've already smoked
• 1:10:54
  your stuff and enjoy it, they're going to push it anyway.
• 1:10:59
  They're going to push it regardless.
• 1:11:01
  But now remember, Joey, if you got you, me and your dad right,
• 1:11:04
  you said we didn't know each other from a can of paint.
• 1:11:06
  Right. And we're all, and we're all
• 1:11:07
  boutique owners, right? He's got now three people in his
• 1:11:11
  ear trying to do something correct.
• 1:11:13
  But now, but a lot of though, even though it's just in your
• 1:11:16
  ear, it's more about action because you can talk all day.
• 1:11:20
  But if they say, hey, hey, hey man, I'm going to come in there
• 1:11:22
  and I'm going to set this up. I'm going to do this event.
• 1:11:24
  I want to do this for next month.
• 1:11:25
  I'm going to do at least three events, right?
• 1:11:28
  And still follow up. And then if you don't, if you
• 1:11:30
  don't even do one event or you don't show up at any of the
• 1:11:32
  events that you're saying you're going to do, they're going to
• 1:11:34
  start saying, well, I don't want to mess with Mike exactly.
• 1:11:36
  Mess with Joey, because Joey at least is trying to put in a
• 1:11:39
  little bit of effort. Right.
• 1:11:41
  Even though I might have a better product, but like you
• 1:11:43
  said, they're still buying you because you're bringing that
• 1:11:46
  attention, you're bringing that atmosphere, you're bringing that
• 1:11:49
  energy into the lounge, which a lot of places are missing.
• 1:11:55
  Right. And you know, even now if, if
• 1:11:57
  you have, if you're trying to get into a lounge where there's,
• 1:12:00
  you know, somebody, you know, has their own brand too.
• 1:12:02
  And I've, I've said this because I've seen it work before.
• 1:12:06
  If I'm in the lounge and you want to get in and I say, hey,
• 1:12:08
  listen, you know, his cigars are good.
• 1:12:10
  He's a friend of mine, you know, take a chance and some lounges
• 1:12:14
  will. But the way you kind of follow
• 1:12:16
  up with that is, hey, listen, let me talk to him and let's set
• 1:12:20
  up, you know, kind of a combined event with the two of us or kind
• 1:12:23
  of a combined cutting light. You know, this way you can get
• 1:12:27
  in front of them. I can get in front of the people
• 1:12:30
  you know, and now you're you're working together to try to
• 1:12:34
  highlight your brands because now, like you said, people are
• 1:12:37
  going to come in there, they're going to see you guys, they're
• 1:12:39
  going to try your stuff and now they're going to buy your stuff
• 1:12:42
  because they've met you. They've seen what you guys are
• 1:12:44
  about. And now you're like you said,
• 1:12:47
  you're following up on all of the promises you were keeping
• 1:12:50
  with the lounge, right? And I, and I think that's a big.
• 1:12:55
  Thing one of one of the one of the one of the hardest things in
• 1:12:58
  business is the referral business because you don't like
• 1:13:01
  the you don't like the refer people if you know, even though
• 1:13:04
  they could be doing good work for you sometimes, sometimes
• 1:13:07
  they had that tendency to be a little shady on some of the back
• 1:13:10
  ends, you know so. Correct.
• 1:13:12
  So, so when you get into that referral business, you always
• 1:13:16
  got to be careful. So you can always say, hey, I
• 1:13:19
  got a contact, you can call and you know, they always got that
• 1:13:22
  joke. I got a guy or I know somebody
• 1:13:24
  or I know, but I don't know, I don't know him like that, You
• 1:13:26
  know what I mean? Like they always.
• 1:13:27
  Use this kind of. It's like that that, that that
• 1:13:30
  cushion when they're saying something about somebody because
• 1:13:32
  they don't want to be on the hook.
• 1:13:34
  Just a case, they bring Mike in and Mike is like trash and I and
• 1:13:37
  then Joey goes back to me. Joey goes back to me.
• 1:13:40
  Hey man, you referred Mike to me and Mike is not the stand up guy
• 1:13:44
  that I thought. And and then he tried to start
• 1:13:45
  backpedaling. Well, you know he did alright.
• 1:13:47
  With me, but again, you know, it's the relationship and that
• 1:13:50
  referral, but it does I mean there's plenty of opportunities
• 1:13:54
  out there. There's plenty of avenues that
• 1:13:55
  everybody can get into selling a good cigar or accessories or
• 1:13:59
  anything like that. But the first thing that's
• 1:14:02
  important is the relationship part because that goes a long
• 1:14:06
  way. Because if things were to go,
• 1:14:08
  like I said, if things were to get a little a little rough, a
• 1:14:10
  little rocky, you still got the relationship knowing that you're
• 1:14:13
  going to make it right. And it makes people feel better
• 1:14:16
  because that's when it real, that's when it really counts
• 1:14:18
  when shit goes, you know, goes array and then you're no, you're
• 1:14:22
  a ghost, right? You're like, you're like the
• 1:14:23
  insurance company during a, during a terrible storm or
• 1:14:26
  something. Like dude ain't going around.
• 1:14:28
  You you start canceling people for no reason they.
• 1:14:30
  Start calling. They didn't answer their phones
• 1:14:32
  and you're like. Wait, wait.
• 1:14:33
  Yeah, I need I. Need to answer your phone?
• 1:14:35
  My roof was coming. Off like yo right yo that tree
• 1:14:39
  fell on that guy's car and I didn't get no referral What the
• 1:14:42
  hell happened? It's.
• 1:14:44
  True. No, it's true.
• 1:14:45
  And it's, it's crazy because it happens way too often in this
• 1:14:49
  industry where you'll get those, and I call them fly by night
• 1:14:52
  companies that put their cigars and lounges.
• 1:14:55
  The cigars start to go sideways. They don't move.
• 1:14:58
  And now they disappear and nobody here smoke.
• 1:15:01
  Yeah. You can, you know.
• 1:15:05
  So here's my thing, Mike. So.
• 1:15:07
  You smoked a lot of cigars as long as I have.
• 1:15:12
  I've been smoking 30 years. So you probably smoked 20 years.
• 1:15:19
  So what cigars do you think? And I'm, I'm be honest, don't
• 1:15:25
  belong in shops. Wow, that don't belong in shops.
• 1:15:35
  Yeah, I I feel like that's a loaded question in.
• 1:15:40
  Your whole thing, however you want to let me.
• 1:15:41
  Let me, let me. Let me at least not an answer
• 1:15:44
  because I like I like to be able to take tough questions to be
• 1:15:46
  able to kind of let the let the you know, the hamster run around
• 1:15:50
  in here and get something out. So that's fine.
• 1:15:53
  I like I like that only issue that I've been having, and I
• 1:16:01
  think this is for everybody when there's a lot of issues with the
• 1:16:04
  construction, because other than that, I think every cigar should
• 1:16:09
  have its place because there's so many people that like infuse
• 1:16:12
  cigars. There's so many people that
• 1:16:13
  like, you know, cigarillos or so many people because if they
• 1:16:17
  didn't, they wouldn't be making it.
• 1:16:19
  So I don't want to not, not anybody to give me a chance to
• 1:16:22
  have the opportunity to sell their stick.
• 1:16:24
  But I think I want everybody to have an opportunity to explain
• 1:16:28
  their story. And I think we missed, I think
• 1:16:31
  we missed a lot of the, the point where people can't get
• 1:16:33
  their story out because either one, they're afraid to talk,
• 1:16:38
  right? 2, they don't have the outlet or
• 1:16:41
  the ability to even get their information out there because
• 1:16:44
  they're just overshadowed by some other bigger brand, you
• 1:16:47
  know what I mean? Or they don't have the, So
• 1:16:49
  there's so many and I mean, there's so many issues a lot of
• 1:16:51
  individuals have. And that's why I like doing what
• 1:16:53
  I'm doing. And I like to see Joey now
• 1:16:55
  coming on too. But I want to give everybody a
• 1:16:58
  chance to talk. Like, I want everybody to come
• 1:17:00
  on and tell me about their brand.
• 1:17:01
  I want everybody to tell me about their accessory.
• 1:17:03
  I want everybody to tell me about whatever, you know what I
• 1:17:05
  mean, whatever you're doing in the in the realm of cigars,
• 1:17:08
  because a lot of them don't have the financial background or just
• 1:17:12
  the ability to even have be comfortable enough to get up and
• 1:17:15
  talk about it. And I think that's why a lot of
• 1:17:17
  these brands, brands, sorry, that get overshadowed by so many
• 1:17:22
  things because they don't have an outlet.
• 1:17:26
  I mean, that's the most important thing is being the
• 1:17:28
  most important thing is having an outlet.
• 1:17:30
  But then when it gets to who shouldn't be, you shouldn't be
• 1:17:34
  on the wall or anything like that.
• 1:17:35
  I. Think you got to be very.
• 1:17:36
  Careful now, because freedom of speech can get you great, but
• 1:17:39
  then freedom of speech can also get your ass thrown out.
• 1:17:42
  So you know, you got you got to be very careful and walk that
• 1:17:45
  line and how you talk to about certain people or what your
• 1:17:49
  certain beliefs are, because you could believe one thing, but
• 1:17:54
  money is a different wholly different believer.
• 1:17:55
  And you know, and that's that's a totally different aspect of
• 1:17:59
  it. And that's why, you know, you
• 1:18:00
  hear, you hear a lot of people say, look, you believe what you
• 1:18:03
  want inside your inner circle. But then once you get outside
• 1:18:05
  that circle and it comes down to making that money, everybody
• 1:18:08
  shut the fuck up and make that. So here's here's a question that
• 1:18:12
  was brought up by somebody on another on another Discord.
• 1:18:18
  So what have you done before you started smoking cigars?
• 1:18:28
  Oh shit, I'm 46 years old now. Before I was smoking cigars, I
• 1:18:33
  was what in high school, I guess I mean that was it.
• 1:18:36
  But other than that, I mean, I'm in I'm in the restaurant
• 1:18:38
  business. So, and I've been smoking
• 1:18:41
  cigars, like I said, for like 20 some odd years and I've been,
• 1:18:46
  but I didn't really become, I didn't really start paying
• 1:18:50
  attention into it or more aware or talking about until about 9
• 1:18:53
  months ago. I didn't care who made what, you
• 1:18:57
  know what I mean? I just went in and just bought
• 1:18:58
  random 6. I didn't know, I didn't know the
• 1:19:00
  difference between a legacy and a boutique.
• 1:19:02
  Like, you know, I didn't really know about it until I started to
• 1:19:06
  have more conversations with anybody to Start learning the
• 1:19:09
  difference because a cigar was a cigar to me, you know, and
• 1:19:11
  that's where, that's where I think people sometimes don't
• 1:19:14
  understand. I work for Wendy's corporate.
• 1:19:18
  OK, I'll get, I'll let everybody know that people don't know the
• 1:19:21
  difference between Wendy's corporate and a franchise.
• 1:19:24
  All they see is the logo up top. So when people get upset and
• 1:19:29
  start talking about that, the average Joe doesn't know to know
• 1:19:32
  the difference between a corporate restaurant and a
• 1:19:34
  franchise restaurant. I just know when they go in
• 1:19:36
  there, they all, they they all got a number one, they all can
• 1:19:39
  get a frosty. They all can do that.
• 1:19:41
  And that's why I was saying that's where the education
• 1:19:43
  aspect comes from because people get so upset about it.
• 1:19:46
  I'm like, well, they don't know guys I didn't know.
• 1:19:49
  I didn't know a difference between the two until nine
• 1:19:51
  months ago. So that's where I'm saying
• 1:19:54
  sometimes we got to step back and start educating
• 1:19:56
  individually. If they want to be educated by
• 1:19:58
  all means, but I think if they're going to start smoking
• 1:20:00
  cigars, they want to be educated about it.
• 1:20:02
  They don't know what an infused cigar is.
• 1:20:03
  They just say, hey, I tried this acid and you say that was
• 1:20:05
  infused and look at you like an infused.
• 1:20:08
  It was just a cigar to them. But that's where you know, and
• 1:20:11
  that's where that's where I found it interesting in the
• 1:20:14
  beginning because there are some individuals that are snob
• 1:20:17
  smoking cigars. And there's some rookies coming
• 1:20:20
  in and they're they're being abrasive and brushing them off
• 1:20:22
  because I was getting it to man. You won't be around long.
• 1:20:25
  You know you're, you're going to, you're going to burnout
• 1:20:27
  everybody's. That's what they said about us.
• 1:20:30
  They said, oh, you guys, you're not going to last.
• 1:20:32
  It's it like we started during COVID, which everybody at that
• 1:20:34
  point had a podcast. Going on five years.
• 1:20:37
  You know, everybody had a podcast during COVID and again,
• 1:20:40
  like you, COVID is, is kind of what afforded us the opportunity
• 1:20:43
  to dive into the boutiques and like you said, really separate
• 1:20:47
  what was a legacy, what was a boutique, you know, who makes
• 1:20:50
  what cigar? Because we had the opportunity
• 1:20:52
  to talk to those people and you know, there was a lot of people
• 1:20:55
  that said, hey, listen, you guys aren't going to last more than
• 1:20:57
  six months. You're not going to last more
• 1:20:59
  than a year. You're not going to last five
• 1:21:01
  years. We're here almost five years
• 1:21:03
  now, but. But but why waste the energy of
• 1:21:07
  saying that? Because they if anything say
• 1:21:10
  wish them luck or hey what can I do to help you?
• 1:21:13
  And and that's that's what it's become now that I've really
• 1:21:16
  gotten become friends with a lot of these other podcasters like
• 1:21:19
  smoking sounds like leaf cutters like Gaz and grumpy and the team
• 1:21:23
  over there where a lot of people when we started were afraid that
• 1:21:29
  we were going to come take their spot.
• 1:21:30
  I. Don't want nobody.
• 1:21:32
  'S spot and and let's be honest, there was a few out there.
• 1:21:36
  There is that we did take their spot.
• 1:21:38
  We took their spot and they were let.
• 1:21:40
  Your haters be your motivators, right?
• 1:21:42
  And that's, that's what it was is, you know, I always told
• 1:21:45
  people I'm like, they can talk about me all they want.
• 1:21:48
  Let them talk. I appreciate it.
• 1:21:50
  That means I'm living in their heads.
• 1:21:51
  So they're thinking about. Me and guess what Mike, I'm
• 1:21:54
  still living in, I was liking. I still got people that hit me
• 1:21:57
  up and go yo your cigars ain't going nowhere bro.
• 1:22:01
  I haven't even put them out yet. Hold on Mike, I haven't.
• 1:22:04
  I haven't even put them out yet. When they come out, y'all can
• 1:22:08
  tell me that, OK? Y'all can tell me that because I
• 1:22:11
  got Mummy and Mike right there. You know they.
• 1:22:13
  Think with gentlemen who's going to buy some and I know.
• 1:22:17
  Even if I know, even even if we send some to people, you know,
• 1:22:20
  it's, there's Mike, I'm a, that's what, 5 cigars?
• 1:22:22
  That's what people don't realize, that sometimes you got
• 1:22:24
  to, you got to send them out and, and you know, get people's
• 1:22:27
  thoughts on them because that's the only way you're really going
• 1:22:30
  to go places. I got a question for you guys
• 1:22:32
  then. So when your release goes out,
• 1:22:38
  where are you guys at on the emotional roller coaster like
• 1:22:41
  are you excited? Are you nervous?
• 1:22:43
  Are you little bit of both? Like where where you at?
• 1:22:46
  It's kind of both. We're a little bit of both.
• 1:22:48
  It's it's both. I'm nervous that nobody's going
• 1:22:52
  to buy them, and then I'm nervous that we're going to get
• 1:22:55
  too many where I got to order like.
• 1:22:58
  Too many, you know, we, you know what I mean?
• 1:23:00
  And, and the way we're doing it too is you know, where the guy
• 1:23:03
  we're working with the, the opportunity that's afforded to
• 1:23:06
  us is we don't have to order 10,000 cigars.
• 1:23:10
  I can order them a couple bundles at a time.
• 1:23:13
  OK. Because again, it's it's it's
• 1:23:16
  stuff that he already had blended, OK, that we had said to
• 1:23:21
  him, listen, here's what we're looking for, here's what we
• 1:23:24
  want. Can you send us 5 cigars that
• 1:23:28
  you think will enjoy? OK, You know where it goes back
• 1:23:32
  to like people talked about that white labeling, like we brought
• 1:23:35
  up last night, there's a lot of people that just white label and
• 1:23:39
  don't, don't try it. They just want a cigar.
• 1:23:41
  They white label it where we said to him, hey, listen, we're
• 1:23:45
  looking for this, this and this, you know, can we blend a cigar?
• 1:23:49
  And he said, well, let's not blend it.
• 1:23:51
  He goes not, not that, let's not blend it.
• 1:23:53
  He goes, but I might have something you already that
• 1:23:55
  that'll fit what you're looking for.
• 1:23:57
  OK. And I said, OK, so I said,
• 1:24:00
  listen, send us 5 different sizes, 5 different wrappers by
• 1:24:03
  toe, whatever. And he sent us a, a Connecticut
• 1:24:07
  Robusto A7 by 42 Cameroon, A Habano and a Maduro Toro.
• 1:24:11
  And then the little, he calls it the Aftershock, I call it a pig,
• 1:24:15
  OK? And we had went through the line
• 1:24:18
  and we really did enjoy the Connecticut was all right.
• 1:24:21
  It wasn't bad. It had a lot of flavor.
• 1:24:23
  It just, it wasn't what we were looking for.
• 1:24:26
  And then, you know, we smoked the Cameroon, the Maduro, the
• 1:24:28
  Habano, and we both smoked that pig on the same day, the
• 1:24:33
  Aftershock. And we kind of looked at each
• 1:24:35
  other and was like, I think this is the one that we're going to
• 1:24:37
  start with because it's different sizing.
• 1:24:41
  Not everybody uses it. It's a, it's an interesting
• 1:24:43
  first release to give out to the public.
• 1:24:46
  It's got that flavor. It's got a bite.
• 1:24:48
  It's it's nice and smooth. It's not overpowering, you know,
• 1:24:53
  and I said that's that's what eventually down the line, I
• 1:24:55
  would like to revisit that blend and kind of tweak it and make it
• 1:24:58
  a little more powerful. But I said to start, that's not
• 1:25:02
  a bad cigar to start with. Well, time.
• 1:25:04
  Out we could have started with a Habana or a Cameroon, which
• 1:25:06
  again, that's not, that's not something we're not opposed to
• 1:25:09
  bringing out. Your dad's throwing.
• 1:25:11
  Your dad's throwing the flag on the.
• 1:25:13
  Field, go ahead. What's up?
• 1:25:15
  We got 3 minutes left, like don't go nowhere because we're
• 1:25:20
  going to post this on YouTube and all the other things wrong.
• 1:25:26
  Don't go nowhere. So guys, this has been
• 1:25:29
  turnbuckles story spot. I am the big dog.
• 1:25:33
  He is the vanilla gorilla and that is Mike.
• 1:25:36
  The distinguished gentleman Go follow him on TikTok.
• 1:25:39
  We're always live with him. We're always live.
• 1:25:41
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• 1:25:45
  So don't don't diss us. And remember, 7:00 tomorrow
• 1:25:50
  morning, we will be live on the Factory Reserve Podcast with
• 1:25:53
  Ish. So go check that out over on
• 1:25:55
  YouTube as well. It may be live here.
• 1:25:58
  If I can, if I can figure this out and get it to go live here,
• 1:26:01
  you guys will see it live on our page as well.
• 1:26:03
  But we will be live on the Factory Reserve Podcast with Ish
• 1:26:06
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• 1:26:09
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• 1:26:10
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