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Strategy, Secrets, and Survival: The Joe Vanella Report Episode 2 · On Deathcare

• 0:03
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to our second edition of the Joe Vanilla Report.
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  SPEAKER_01: And what's really cool about the Joe Vanilla Report is I have zero idea what's going to happen.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like you guys might already know that he's no longer on the show,
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  SPEAKER_01: that they set him on fire and threw him off a building.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know anything.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so if you don't know anything,
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  SPEAKER_01: we have Spencer Haig here who is going to bring us up to date.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Glad to be back and to get to
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  SPEAKER_01: do this for a second week.
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  SPEAKER_01: We don't know how long it's going to last.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: So so when when we left it last week,
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  SPEAKER_01: there had been two episodes and they had drafted a third person or they were going
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  SPEAKER_01: to have a third person compete for this to compete for the third spot.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So two episodes last week,
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  SPEAKER_00: they did another two this week and we started off this week
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  SPEAKER_00: where they were basically seeing the result of the two people that were competing
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  SPEAKER_00: for that third trader spot.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we saw them kind of come to that head where both of the two apprentices showed
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  SPEAKER_00: that they had completed the tasks and it led to our guy Joe
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  SPEAKER_00: and his partner Tamika having to choose between the two to who they wanted to be
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  SPEAKER_00: the third trader and they had to kill the other one.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so who did they choose and how?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they stepped,
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  SPEAKER_00: they brought them out and they Unveiled themselves and showed to the two apprentices
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  SPEAKER_00: who they were.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then they showed that they had completed the task.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then Joe and Tamika stepped to the side, consulted on who they were going to choose.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they had a tough decision because not only was...
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  SPEAKER_00: Were they deciding based off of the gameplay that they had seen from the two players
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  SPEAKER_00: to that point?
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  SPEAKER_00: But just before that,
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  SPEAKER_00: Xavier, who was one of them, and Katie, the other one, made a few comments.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Katie commented that she was fighting to be a traitor.
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  SPEAKER_00: She didn't even vote for someone at the last roundtable because she thought
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  SPEAKER_00: that they were a traitor and she wanted to show that she was loyal.
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  SPEAKER_00: Meanwhile, Xavier said, well, I went and told people that Katie might be a traitor.
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  SPEAKER_00: So people are already thinking she's a traitor.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you don't want to keep her around.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there was some gameplay happening pretty immediately.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Joe and Tamika decided that they were going to keep Katie around
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  SPEAKER_00: because she definitely showed more loyalty.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think that speaks a lot to their character, even though they took on the additional risk.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the other thing is that it's...
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  SPEAKER_01: It's also one of those,
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  SPEAKER_01: is it a blind, is it a fake or a double fake or a triple fake kind of thing, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: But it's weird because if he went out after saying that Katie was a traitor and
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  SPEAKER_01: then he was the one.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, do the rest of the players know why he was killed?
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  SPEAKER_01: Do they know that he failed the traitor test or they just know he was killed?
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  SPEAKER_00: They just know that he was killed.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they,
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  SPEAKER_00: like you said,
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  SPEAKER_00: there's people there that might think that that He was saying that she was
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  SPEAKER_00: a traitor.
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  SPEAKER_00: So now she killed him.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, it's not a great look.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I think it was a good strategic decision because he clearly could not be trusted
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  SPEAKER_00: if he was already doing that to, you know, someone that was nearby.
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  SPEAKER_01: And also, so there are also two options as a player.
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  SPEAKER_01: Option number one,
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  SPEAKER_01: if you know that Katie,
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  SPEAKER_01: if you believe that Katie is a traitor,
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  SPEAKER_01: then that's one person you can keep your eye out for.
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  SPEAKER_01: Or at least they have like...
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  SPEAKER_01: Like a fire break below them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, that's kind of where the episode started.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then it bled into some more competitions.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nothing really crazy jumped out there.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then they went to another vote.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is where things started to get a little bit more interesting on
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  SPEAKER_00: the Joe front because...
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  SPEAKER_00: He did something that I think afterwards really showed through to his character.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that was that he consoled people.
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  SPEAKER_00: He did what a funeral director does.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we saw this in the first couple episodes.
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  SPEAKER_00: He did this again in these next two episodes where they got through these challenges
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  SPEAKER_00: in these next two episodes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nothing really crazy jumped out.
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  SPEAKER_00: They did the exercises.
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  SPEAKER_00: They won.
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  SPEAKER_00: Some people were kind of sketchy.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is what it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nothing too wild happened.
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  SPEAKER_00: But then there was a guy that Joe has been kind of close with that spoke up during
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  SPEAKER_00: the roundtable and Joe defended him pretty aggressively at the roundtable.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then afterwards,
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  SPEAKER_00: that guy came up to him and really thanked him for being,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know, standing up for him, being there for him.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think this is Where it started to take a toll on him because you could tell
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  SPEAKER_00: that,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: he's a good person and like doing something like that where he was clearly making
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  SPEAKER_00: a difference to this individual,
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  SPEAKER_00: like there were kind of tears,
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  SPEAKER_00: they were hugging, but he knows that he's lying, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like he knows that while he might be Authentic and doing what he's doing
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  SPEAKER_00: to defend this individual.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's doing it while lying because he's a traitor.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I think,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: I think despite being good at managing these stressful situations because he's
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  SPEAKER_00: a funeral director,
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  SPEAKER_00: I think,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: the good heart of being a funeral director might also be getting to him
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  SPEAKER_00: in some capacity.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the guilt of it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Although on the other side of it,
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  SPEAKER_01: it's also if anyone is used to carrying extra weight because of emotional distress,
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  SPEAKER_01: that is something a funeral director is really good at in my experience.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that is a good point.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think...
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  SPEAKER_00: I think he will clearly rebound from that,
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  SPEAKER_00: but I think it just continues to show through that he's a very good person.
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  SPEAKER_00: More so than I've watched multiple seasons of this,
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  SPEAKER_00: and you see some good people throughout the shows,
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  SPEAKER_00: but he's clearly showing to be one of the better people.
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  SPEAKER_00: And there's no hint of...
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  SPEAKER_00: Anyone suspecting him at this point, there's some suspicion on Tamika, some on Katie.
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  SPEAKER_00: As I mentioned,
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  SPEAKER_00: there's quite a few people looking at Katie now,
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  SPEAKER_00: and I think that might get them into some trouble.
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  SPEAKER_00: But overall, Joe has stayed, you know, kind of out of the crosshairs altogether.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think he's kind of,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: chit chatting with people playing the game well and not really kind
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  SPEAKER_00: of ruffling feathers, so to speak.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: and he's,
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to, I don't want to stereotype him, but that, that is a type, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Big and loud and soft and squishy all at the same time.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: When you,
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  SPEAKER_01: when you,
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  SPEAKER_01: when you,
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  SPEAKER_01: when you're like, ah,
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  SPEAKER_01: but then when it,
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  SPEAKER_01: when it matters,
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  SPEAKER_01: you're like, you're,
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  SPEAKER_01: you're able to,
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  SPEAKER_01: you're able to let your heart come through and not get caught up in the bombast.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's something that we're seeing in some of the different characters in the show.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I call them characters,
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  SPEAKER_00: although these are real people,
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  SPEAKER_00: but like,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: You see the personalities of people that are loud and outgoing,
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  SPEAKER_00: but then you also see the characters of people that are loud and outgoing,
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  SPEAKER_00: but also able to rein it in and have that emotional impact on other people.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think he fits that category really well.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's not someone that's just 100% all the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: He knows when to press the gas and when to feather off and press the brake.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure that's a skill that he's...
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  SPEAKER_00: Tailored over many years, but it's impressive.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, and it's okay to call them characters as a nonfiction author.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's really weird to talk to,
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  SPEAKER_01: because you're talking,
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  SPEAKER_01: I wrote a murder book once and I'm like, oh, this is a great character.
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  SPEAKER_01: He did this, that, and I'm like, no, that really happened.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, but he's a character now.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like if you're going to tell a story, then you have to tell a story about characters.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can't tell a story about people because then it's gossip.
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  SPEAKER_00: I hadn't thought about it that way, but yeah, it's a good point.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's how I sleep at night anyway.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I kind of like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And was that both episodes or was that the first episode?
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  SPEAKER_00: So that was kind of a mix of both.
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  SPEAKER_00: There was, I mean,
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  SPEAKER_00: the way the episodes played out is it's,
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  SPEAKER_00: they didn't, these episodes don't have clean starts and finishes.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they do and that the episodes start and that they finish,
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  SPEAKER_00: but it's not like every episode they start with X,
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  SPEAKER_00: then this happens in the middle and then they end.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not like Survivor,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: in Survivor there's always,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: challenges in the middle and then there's tribal council and then the episode ends
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  SPEAKER_00: and that happens every Survivor episode.
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  SPEAKER_00: These are kind of very fluid, like,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: they might start with a vote,
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  SPEAKER_00: and then there's a challenge,
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  SPEAKER_00: and then there's,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: a murder at the end,
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  SPEAKER_00: or they might start with a challenge and then have a murder and then end with
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  SPEAKER_00: a vote.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so these kind of just bled together.
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  SPEAKER_00: There was a few challenges in there, a round table and a murder.
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  SPEAKER_00: But at the end of the day,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: when it comes to what we care about here and Joe,
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  SPEAKER_00: I think the main things that came away from this week is he played
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  SPEAKER_00: a little quieter,
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  SPEAKER_00: except for,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know, the round table where he spoke up for people that he really cared about.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he kind of showed his heart.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think that mattered a lot.
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  SPEAKER_00: Excellent.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what are we looking for for next week?
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  SPEAKER_00: Next week is going to be interesting because Katie is in the crosshair,
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  SPEAKER_00: which is his fellow trader.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so That's where it starts to get iffy to see if he's going to support her and
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  SPEAKER_00: the other traders.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they kind of stick together as a group.
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  SPEAKER_00: But then if they stick together too much now, then they start to look suspicious.
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  SPEAKER_00: So at some point you either have to cut ties or
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta watch it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so just referring back to previous seasons, because you've watched the show before.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is it the case that when a trader's revealed, are more traders revealed more quickly?
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  SPEAKER_01: Is it like a domino effect or is it random?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's usually pretty random.
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  SPEAKER_00: I will say there's been like,
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  SPEAKER_00: There's one,
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  SPEAKER_00: I think one season where someone got voted off and kind of threw out a hint
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  SPEAKER_00: of someone else and that caused a little... That's what I was wondering.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're not supposed to do that, but it has happened.
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  SPEAKER_00: But for the most part, usually they try to pick people for the positions that are...
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  SPEAKER_00: Not necessarily people that you would see, like think of going together.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's not like,
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  SPEAKER_00: oh, here are, you know, these two people that have been best friends the whole time.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we expect them to be, you know, in and together.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's, yeah,
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  SPEAKER_00: it's people that are disjointed so that,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: if you get rid of one,
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  SPEAKER_00: you wouldn't necessarily immediately think of the next person,
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  SPEAKER_00: which can be,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know, really helpful to them and really disadvantageous to everyone else.
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  SPEAKER_01: Excellent.
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  SPEAKER_01: And anything else?
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  SPEAKER_01: Is there anything we missed?
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  SPEAKER_01: Any final thoughts?
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  SPEAKER_01: No, I don't think so for
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  SPEAKER_00: this week.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think that's it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we'll he's looking good.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we will definitely be here for next week and then we'll see where we go from there.
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  SPEAKER_01: Fantastic.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, we'll see you folks next week.
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  SPEAKER_01: Spoilers.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thanks, guys.