Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Full Show Podcast: 01 July 2025
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- 0:01Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge on early edition with x full insulation, keeping
- 0:08Speaker 2: Kimi Holmes warm and.
- 0:09Speaker 1: Tray this winter news talks. That'd be good morning.
- 0:12Speaker 3: It is six half for five. Great to have your
- 0:14Speaker 3: company coming up at four to six. The coward punch penalty.
- 0:17Speaker 3: Is it really going to make people stop and think
- 0:20Speaker 3: before they do something stupid like throw a punch? We'll
- 0:23Speaker 3: ask that question. Centrix data out this morning. Insolvencies up
- 0:27Speaker 3: twenty seven percent year on here for businesses. So which
- 0:30Speaker 3: parts of the economy are hurting the most and is
- 0:33Speaker 3: this because of the economy or is it enforcement by
- 0:36Speaker 3: the IID Donald Tomato in Australia. For US pennywong Off
- 0:39Speaker 3: to Washington and West New Zealand is open for business today.
- 0:42Speaker 3: Is it worth the forty five million dollar price tag
- 0:45Speaker 3: that we're paying? Seven after five.
- 0:49Speaker 1: The agenda.
- 0:50Speaker 3: Tuesday, first of July. Europe in heat wave. This morning,
- 0:53Speaker 3: two hundred schools closed Spain. Hottest June day on record
- 0:57Speaker 3: forty six degrees.
- 0:58Speaker 4: It is quite a lot to see this happening so
- 1:02Speaker 4: early in the summer season.
- 1:03Speaker 5: So the heat way season.
- 1:04Speaker 4: Across Europe starts at the beginning of June and it
- 1:07Speaker 4: would extend into September. So if you think about that,
- 1:10Speaker 4: you think about what we could see in the rest
- 1:12Speaker 4: of the summer with wildfires. And also we have this
- 1:16Speaker 4: dry conditions in large parts of Europe's as well, which
- 1:19Speaker 4: is raising.
- 1:20Speaker 1: The risk of drought.
- 1:21Speaker 3: Travel on the shoulder seats and everybody. That's the advice
- 1:24Speaker 3: now Around's Depity Foreign Minister. This is on the question
- 1:27Speaker 3: of whether they will get back to the table and
- 1:29Speaker 3: start talking about the nuclear program. Around Foreign Minister says
- 1:34Speaker 3: they must, the UIs must have all let any further strikes.
- 1:36Speaker 1: First, we have not agreed to any date.
- 1:40Speaker 6: You have not agreed to the modality. Right now we
- 1:45Speaker 6: are seeking an answer to this question. Are we going
- 1:50Speaker 6: to see a repetition of an actual aggess while we
- 1:55Speaker 6: are engaging India? They have not made their position here yet.
- 2:00Speaker 3: In the US, the Senate's now voting on the Big
- 2:02Speaker 3: Beautiful Bill.
- 2:03Speaker 7: Finally, this bill steals people's health care, jacks up their electricity,
- 2:08Speaker 7: bill takes away their jobs, all to pay for tax
- 2:12Speaker 7: breaks for billionaires.
- 2:14Speaker 8: And so yes, there are some improvements and reforms to
- 2:19Speaker 8: Medicaid to make it more efficient, to make sure that
- 2:22Speaker 8: the people who are supposed to benefit from medicaid do
- 2:25Speaker 8: and that it.
- 2:26Speaker 9: Doesn't go to people who shouldn't benefit from medicaid.
- 2:28Speaker 3: And to New York City the Diddy trial. As we speak,
- 2:31Speaker 3: the juries begun their deliberations.
- 2:34Speaker 10: The judge who has presided over this case, Ourn Subromanium,
- 2:38Speaker 10: gave lengthy instructions to the eight men and four women
- 2:42Speaker 10: of this jury on how to structure their deliberations. If
- 2:46Speaker 10: they do convict him of the most serious charges, he
- 2:49Speaker 10: could spend the rest of his life in prison.
- 2:53Speaker 2: The news you need this morning and the in depth
- 2:56Speaker 2: analysis earlier this ship with Ryan Bridge and expul in
- 3:00Speaker 2: keeping Kiwi homes warm and dry, this winter news talks,
- 3:04Speaker 2: he'd be it is.
- 3:04Speaker 3: Nine after five. Great to have your company this morning.
- 3:06Speaker 3: So stocks only thing going up really, it seems around
- 3:09Speaker 3: the world of temperatures if you're in Europe, and stocks
- 3:12Speaker 3: in the US going through the roof and in the
- 3:15Speaker 3: end of a pretty crazy second quarter for the markets.
- 3:18Speaker 3: Now the reason they've gone up overnight this is the
- 3:20Speaker 3: S and P five hundred and the Nasdaq heading new
- 3:23Speaker 3: intra day records. Canada has withdrawn its digital services tax,
- 3:28Speaker 3: so you know how Carne obviously wants a deal over
- 3:31Speaker 3: tariffs with Trump, and they're trying to negotiate that and
- 3:33Speaker 3: blah blah blah, and Trump the other day was throwing
- 3:36Speaker 3: a big stick around, waving a stick around on true
- 3:38Speaker 3: social you know, we'll just blow up the any agreement
- 3:41Speaker 3: or any partial agreement we had anyway. So that seems
- 3:45Speaker 3: to be coming to ahead because Carne clearly wants a deal.
- 3:49Speaker 3: So the S and P five hundred finishing on a high,
- 3:52Speaker 3: highest close on Friday since February. So it's actually up
- 3:55Speaker 3: eight percent on when Trump announced the tariff. So yes,
- 4:00Speaker 3: it took a big hat, but it's actually up. We're
- 4:02Speaker 3: eight percent higher than we were before. You've still got
- 4:06Speaker 3: strong corporate earnings, You've still got growth, pretty resilient holding up.
- 4:10Speaker 3: Inflation is near two percent. So that's a pretty incredible
- 4:14Speaker 3: story really for a stock market that's been battered and
- 4:17Speaker 3: bruised to come out with a result like that. Ten
- 4:20Speaker 3: after five News talks there be we'll talk here in
- 4:22Speaker 3: New Zealand about invest New Zealand. Can we attract some
- 4:26Speaker 3: of that foreign capital to come our way. That's next
- 4:30Speaker 3: ten after five.
- 4:32Speaker 2: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan
- 4:36Speaker 2: Bridge and x Fole insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and
- 4:40Speaker 2: dry this winter.
- 4:41Speaker 1: News talks, that'd be five.
- 4:42Speaker 3: Po thirteen on news talks, there'd be nobody puts Winston
- 4:44Speaker 3: Peters in privatization in the same sentence. Well, normally, you
- 4:48Speaker 3: know the economic nationalist he is, you wouldn't do that.
- 4:50Speaker 3: But this morning there's a story in the Herald Winston
- 4:53Speaker 3: Peters has opened the door for the part privatization of
- 4:57Speaker 3: the new fairies that we're getting. So we get a
- 5:00Speaker 3: couple of new, beautiful, brand spanking fairies, and they're bigger
- 5:03Speaker 3: and better than the previous ones. Not as big or
- 5:05Speaker 3: as good as the ones we would have got, but
- 5:07Speaker 3: better than the ones we have Anyway, Peters takes a
- 5:11Speaker 3: paper to Cabinet earlier this year with Nikola Willis and
- 5:14Speaker 3: Chris Bishop, and included in that is a direction to
- 5:18Speaker 3: Faery Holdings, which is the publicly owned companies set up
- 5:21Speaker 3: to get these fairies to consider options for ferry ownership
- 5:25Speaker 3: and the operation that will improve efficiency and recycle government
- 5:28Speaker 3: capital in other world in other words, get capital out
- 5:31Speaker 3: and then put it in somewhere else. So that is
- 5:33Speaker 3: on the table. But then you ask Inston Peter's to
- 5:35Speaker 3: his face and he says, no, We're not doing anything
- 5:37Speaker 3: like that. So a curious move and reeks of something
- 5:41Speaker 3: to do with backroom negotiations amongst the coalition partners. Fourteen
- 5:46Speaker 3: after five from today will officially have a new regulatory
- 5:50Speaker 3: body for overseas investment. Invest in Z is an agency
- 5:53Speaker 3: set up to help attract and retain large investment from
- 5:56Speaker 3: overseas buyers. Responsible Minister Tom McClay hopes this will create
- 5:59Speaker 3: job boost productivity. Catherine bed Sea Business ends, the advocacy
- 6:03Speaker 3: director with us this morning. Catherine, good morning, Good morning.
- 6:07Speaker 3: So this is obviously going to be an expensive exercise.
- 6:10Speaker 3: I think forty five million dollars over the next few years.
- 6:13Speaker 3: Are we sure of eighty five million dollars over four
- 6:16Speaker 3: years to establish it and it's as itself as an
- 6:19Speaker 3: autonomous Crown entity. Is it going to be worth it?
- 6:22Speaker 3: Do we think? Oh?
- 6:24Speaker 11: Look, we definitely had to do something, Ryan. We are
- 6:27Speaker 11: one of the hardest places to invest in the OECD
- 6:31Speaker 11: and as everybody knows, investment is the lifeblood of economic success,
- 6:38Speaker 11: so we definitely needed to make it easier and I
- 6:41Speaker 11: think this is a really good start. It will be
- 6:43Speaker 11: much much more of a bespoke concierge sort of approach.
- 6:48Speaker 11: I think they've looked at Ireland and other countries that
- 6:51Speaker 11: do it far better than we do. And my understanding
- 6:55Speaker 11: is it's going to be quite a small, lean and
- 6:57Speaker 11: mean agency as well, and taking some of that work
- 7:02Speaker 11: away from MZTE. So hopefully it's not going to be
- 7:05Speaker 11: too expensive.
- 7:06Speaker 3: Right And do you what sort of people do you
- 7:09Speaker 3: think that they'll be hiring.
- 7:13Speaker 12: Look, I've heard that it'll be people with really good
- 7:17Speaker 12: roll indecks of international investors, in connections, so they should
- 7:21Speaker 12: be well connected to investors around the world, and you know,
- 7:26Speaker 12: they should be also looking at where the opportunities are
- 7:29Speaker 12: here and where our gaps are and where.
- 7:31Speaker 11: We actually need investment. So well connected people. Not a
- 7:35Speaker 11: lot of them my understanding, but well connected all right.
- 7:38Speaker 3: So we will live and across our fingers and hope
- 7:41Speaker 3: and pray that this works. We need to, of course,
- 7:43Speaker 3: have attractive investments here to begin with. Is this is
- 7:47Speaker 3: our problem just cosmetic we're not advertising ourselves well enough
- 7:52Speaker 3: or are there a lack of viable attractive deals?
- 7:56Speaker 13: Oh?
- 7:56Speaker 11: Look, I think there'll be a lot to invest in
- 7:59Speaker 11: a New Zealand. You know, as you know, we have
- 8:02Speaker 11: a big infrastructure deficit. There's a lot of spending that
- 8:07Speaker 11: needs to be done. And yeah, and you know, look,
- 8:11Speaker 11: I think we've got a lot of opportunities in the
- 8:13Speaker 11: future if we get into some more long term thinking
- 8:16Speaker 11: and you know, business is Zealand we're advocating thirty years.
- 8:20Speaker 11: You know, have a thirty year horizon. What will we need?
- 8:25Speaker 11: What could we be great at and let's have a
- 8:28Speaker 11: plan and get on with it.
- 8:30Speaker 3: Catherine, appreciate your time this morning. Thank you for coming on.
- 8:32Speaker 3: Catherine Beard, Business en Advocacy Directed. That time is sixteen
- 8:35Speaker 3: after five year on News Talks theb construction industry. No
- 8:40Speaker 3: surprises for you. You feature quite prominently in company liquidations
- 8:44Speaker 3: up twenty seven percent year on year.
- 8:46Speaker 2: More on that next on your radio and online on
- 8:50Speaker 2: iHeartRadio early edition with Ryan Bridge and x foll Insulation
- 8:55Speaker 2: keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and dry.
- 8:57Speaker 3: This winter News Talks at B five nineteen on Newstalks RBS.
- 9:01Speaker 3: So from today there's a new twenty four to seven
- 9:04Speaker 3: digital health service, so you can basically call or you
- 9:07Speaker 3: can video chat a doctor. And this is round the
- 9:11Speaker 3: clock outside normal clinic hours. Things that they this is
- 9:14Speaker 3: the government giving you information. Things you can ring them
- 9:17Speaker 3: about a mother with a sick child in the middle
- 9:19Speaker 3: of the night, someone waking up with a sudden rash
- 9:22Speaker 3: on a public holiday. Sounds like it's been a good one.
- 9:26Speaker 3: A farmer in rural New Zealand needing help after ours,
- 9:29Speaker 3: a family on holiday in a different part of the country,
- 9:31Speaker 3: or someone not enrolled with the local GP, which is
- 9:33Speaker 3: a good point because when you're in a different area
- 9:36Speaker 3: you have to pay these exorbitant fees. So anyway, this
- 9:39Speaker 3: is what's happening from today. You can now call a
- 9:41Speaker 3: number and have a video consult through the government and
- 9:46Speaker 3: this is to improve the lot because people are waiting
- 9:48Speaker 3: too long to see a GP. This is one of
- 9:50Speaker 3: the ways I'll do it. But it's a little bit
- 9:52Speaker 3: like using private hospitals for public operations. Is there a
- 9:56Speaker 3: staffing shortage? Do you create a problem with the labor
- 9:59Speaker 3: works down the line? People won't care well they once
- 10:03Speaker 3: you've got a coffin and you phone a number and
- 10:04Speaker 3: it's sorted. Twenty after five, Ryan Bridge, you started out
- 10:08Speaker 3: this morning from centrics and business liquidations up twenty seven
- 10:11Speaker 3: percent year on year. Business loan defaults also up fourteen percent.
- 10:14Speaker 3: Brian Williams principal at BWA Insolvency with me this morning, Brian.
- 10:18Speaker 3: Good morning, Oh, good morning Ryan.
- 10:20Speaker 14: Good to speak with you.
- 10:21Speaker 3: Great to have you on. Now, are these insolvencies because
- 10:25Speaker 3: of the economy or because we're taking more enforcement action?
- 10:29Speaker 3: What's behind them?
- 10:30Speaker 14: I think that the combination of both. To be honest,
- 10:33Speaker 14: I think that the density four hitholders to take the
- 10:38Speaker 14: view that they can no longer continue with their current
- 10:40Speaker 14: circumstances is certainly a feature of what we're seeing, but
- 10:44Speaker 14: it is clearly a result or an after glow of
- 10:47Speaker 14: COVID and the lower demand that's flowed out of the
- 10:51Speaker 14: government policies. I think that's exposed. We can balance sheets
- 10:56Speaker 14: as the tiger's out. Of course, that exposes all of
- 10:58Speaker 14: those rocks that are not forming the strongest position for
- 11:03Speaker 14: the companies, and they can't be dealt with by continued
- 11:08Speaker 14: levels of sales that existed in the past.
- 11:10Speaker 3: What sort of businesses are able to survive? I mean,
- 11:14Speaker 3: are you seeing trends in terms of industries presumably constructions
- 11:18Speaker 3: up there?
- 11:19Speaker 14: Well, I think the construction always features highly anyway, because
- 11:23Speaker 14: they represent such a high proportion of the gross domestic
- 11:26Speaker 14: products of the country. But they're certainly high, no doubt
- 11:29Speaker 14: about that. The particular segment inside the construction industry of
- 11:35Speaker 14: those builders that started for the hammer and started to
- 11:39Speaker 14: smash nails and a timber and don't necessarily followed up
- 11:43Speaker 14: with the exities that requires to make sure that they're
- 11:46Speaker 14: very slim margins results in survival.
- 11:52Speaker 3: Sorry, party, absolutely. When do you see this turning around?
- 11:55Speaker 3: I mean you're at the could face and we're seeing
- 11:56Speaker 3: it every month we get the reports that it's here
- 11:59Speaker 3: on year, still up. When do we start to see
- 12:01Speaker 3: it come down? Do you think?
- 12:04Speaker 14: I think later this year, And it could be asked,
- 12:07Speaker 14: why would I think that. I think that there is
- 12:10Speaker 14: a discretionary spend will increase as the year progresses, as
- 12:14Speaker 14: the sun shines more towards Christmas. People have an enlightened
- 12:18Speaker 14: or like the viewpoint about their future. But they've got
- 12:22Speaker 14: to have funds to spend, and that is going to
- 12:25Speaker 14: be lowered interest rates and I guess costs coming down.
- 12:33Speaker 14: So I think that later on this year there will
- 12:35Speaker 14: also be I think a new surge of a new
- 12:38Speaker 14: economy on the way. If gear political environment will allow it,
- 12:42Speaker 14: there'll be a new economy on the way. AI is
- 12:46Speaker 14: featuring more and more in the news all the time,
- 12:49Speaker 14: and there'll be new providers, new supply siders. So I
- 12:54Speaker 14: think Christmas New Year will be the time where we get.
- 12:58Speaker 3: A little, little, most little kickback. Brian appreciate you to
- 13:02Speaker 3: at least not getting worse month on month. Brian, appreciate
- 13:05Speaker 3: you time this morning. Thank you very much, principal at
- 13:07Speaker 3: BWA insolvency if you're just joining us. Company liquidations was
- 13:10Speaker 3: in twenty seven percent year on year, partly, as Brian says,
- 13:14Speaker 3: partly because of IID enforcement action, but also partly just
- 13:17Speaker 3: the state of the economy at the moment. Twenty three
- 13:19Speaker 3: minutes after five News Talks, here be more on AI
- 13:21Speaker 3: next the.
- 13:23Speaker 2: Early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks.
- 13:27Speaker 3: It be five twenty five News Talks. There be the
- 13:31Speaker 3: robots are coming. Look out everybody and they reckon though
- 13:34Speaker 3: that be better at us than us humans doing really difficult
- 13:37Speaker 3: complex stuff like being a doctor. Microsoft has announced overnight
- 13:42Speaker 3: an artificial intelligence system which I am just calling a
- 13:46Speaker 3: robot that performs better. This is what they're arguing performs
- 13:50Speaker 3: better than a human doctor at complex health diagnosis. This
- 13:55Speaker 3: is according to Guardian reporting in the last couple of
- 13:58Speaker 3: hours they say Microsoft's come out. There AI unit has
- 14:01Speaker 3: come out and said they're creating a path to medical superintelligence.
- 14:06Speaker 3: Look out world. So they think in their case studies
- 14:11Speaker 3: that their AI doctor solves or correctly diagnosed eight out
- 14:17Speaker 3: of ten case studies, really complex ones eight out of ten.
- 14:21Speaker 3: The real doctors who didn't have access to the Internet
- 14:23Speaker 3: or to books or anything, the real doctors two out
- 14:26Speaker 3: of ten. So who are you going to trust? And
- 14:29Speaker 3: that's the question you start asking yourself. Do you trust
- 14:32Speaker 3: AI to make important decisions, like health decisions on your behalf,
- 14:36Speaker 3: even though doctors don't always get it right. The thought
- 14:39Speaker 3: of a computer deciding your fate is kind of weird,
- 14:42Speaker 3: hard to get used to. But if it's shown to
- 14:45Speaker 3: work reliably, if it's accurate, and I suppose why not. China, meanwhile,
- 14:50Speaker 3: is into robots big time. A company there wants a
- 14:54Speaker 3: humanoid robot cleaning our dishes and washing our clothes in
- 14:57Speaker 3: a matter of years. They had an exhibition this week.
- 15:00Speaker 3: They want one robot for every home, and this I
- 15:03Speaker 3: can get on board with. But you've got to ask.
- 15:06Speaker 3: With the robots apparently taking every job under the sun,
- 15:08Speaker 3: they'll be cutting our hair soon. What are we going
- 15:11Speaker 3: to do once they've completed their mission to take over
- 15:14Speaker 3: the world? What do we do for work? Seventy seven
- 15:16Speaker 3: percent of companies are either using AI right now or
- 15:20Speaker 3: are actively trying to. Year on year growth for this
- 15:24Speaker 3: industry is now at more than one hundred percent. Seventy
- 15:27Speaker 3: seven percent of all devices in the world are currently
- 15:31Speaker 3: using some form of AI. And I get why this
- 15:34Speaker 3: is happening and everything from health to housework, because it's
- 15:39Speaker 3: far more efficient and cost effective to do this. But
- 15:43Speaker 3: with so much of the work being done by others,
- 15:46Speaker 3: what's left to occupy our time?
- 15:48Speaker 1: Fry and Bridge?
- 15:49Speaker 3: Shall we just sit and think? I don't know. What
- 15:51Speaker 3: do we do? Is it like early retirement? How do
- 15:54Speaker 3: we get paid? Twenty eight minutes after five news talks,
- 15:56Speaker 3: thereb Dalai Lama is preparing for his succession plan and
- 16:02Speaker 3: this is irking China because of course China thinks that
- 16:05Speaker 3: they will pick the next Dalai Lama. They see him
- 16:08Speaker 3: as a separatist. He's living in exile outside of Tibet,
- 16:11Speaker 3: He's living in India, and the Dalai Lama is apparently
- 16:15Speaker 3: going to reveal The process for this is ahead of
- 16:19Speaker 3: his ninetieth birthday, so he's doing well innings wise. He
- 16:23Speaker 3: is going to announce what the process is for picking
- 16:25Speaker 3: a successor, and this is really irked China because they
- 16:28Speaker 3: think they will be Beijing will be the one to
- 16:30Speaker 3: pick whoever it is, boy or girl, and where they
- 16:33Speaker 3: come from is the other important thing too. Twenty eight
- 16:36Speaker 3: minutes after five coming up after the news at five thirty,
- 16:39Speaker 3: we'll get to our reporters around the country. Donnad de
- 16:41Speaker 3: Mayo is in Australia for US this morning, and lots
- 16:45Speaker 3: to talk about with her, including Penny Wong heading off
- 16:48Speaker 3: to America and the press in Australia saying that she's
- 16:53Speaker 3: the wrong person for the job. You don't want to
- 16:55Speaker 3: send somebody who has sort of blundered her way through
- 16:58Speaker 3: the Gaza situation and raised eyebrows over in Washington. But
- 17:02Speaker 3: nonetheless she'll be off so done and demy on that.
- 17:05Speaker 3: And of course we'll look at the record temperatures out
- 17:08Speaker 3: of this European heat wave and more on the Microsoft
- 17:12Speaker 3: announcement overnight too here on News Talk sbb.
- 17:27Speaker 2: WELL News and Views you Trust. To start your day,
- 17:37Speaker 2: It's early edition with Ryan Bridge at EXPOL insallation keeping
- 17:42Speaker 2: Kiwi Holmes ward and dry.
- 17:43Speaker 1: This winter News Talks EDB.
- 17:49Speaker 3: Good morning, twenty four minutes away from six. News TALKSB
- 17:52Speaker 3: are coming up before six. We're going to get to
- 17:54Speaker 3: a defense Luare. This is on from the Law Association
- 17:58Speaker 3: on the coward punch? Is a law like that's actually
- 18:01Speaker 3: going to change the way people think? Are you going
- 18:04Speaker 3: to have a rational thought in the middle of throwing
- 18:06Speaker 3: a cowd punch and think, oh, I could go to
- 18:08Speaker 3: prison for longer, so therefore I won't do this? And
- 18:11Speaker 3: is that actually the point? We'll look at that before six. Also,
- 18:14Speaker 3: our Australia correspondent Don and tomorrows with us. Penny Wong
- 18:17Speaker 3: is off to Washington today. A lot of people say
- 18:21Speaker 3: she shouldn't be going. We'll tell you why. Right now.
- 18:23Speaker 3: It is twenty three to.
- 18:24Speaker 1: Six, Ryan Bridge, Slow.
- 18:26Speaker 3: Reporters around the country and we'll go to Cullum and Dunedin.
- 18:29Speaker 3: Cullum Dunedin Council adopting this annual plan. This includes the
- 18:33Speaker 3: higher rates, right yeah, it does, Ryan Morning.
- 18:37Speaker 15: The plan approved yesterday includes a ten point seven percent
- 18:40Speaker 15: rates rise for Dunedin rate payers for the coming year
- 18:44Speaker 15: ten point seven So that's slightly higher than the ten
- 18:46Speaker 15: point five which was previously consulted on look the mayor
- 18:51Speaker 15: here at Jills Raddicks. Defending this rise, He says to
- 18:53Speaker 15: Needin's rates are much lower than many of our neighbors,
- 18:56Speaker 15: and he says given rates rises across the country for
- 18:59Speaker 15: communities to live their infrastructure, he believes the Needin's rates
- 19:02Speaker 15: are still below average. He also says their nine year
- 19:05Speaker 15: plan achieved the flattening of debt they need and a
- 19:08Speaker 15: balanced budget for the first time in a while.
- 19:10Speaker 3: All Right, how's your weather.
- 19:12Speaker 15: It's fine, fresh westerlies today the high thirteen.
- 19:15Speaker 3: Nice one callum, thank you and Courtney in christ jets
- 19:17Speaker 3: for us.
- 19:18Speaker 1: Hey, Courtney, good morning.
- 19:19Speaker 3: Tell us about the upgrades around the new stadium. Apparently
- 19:23Speaker 3: very much on time.
- 19:24Speaker 16: Yes, no, always a good story when it comes to
- 19:27Speaker 16: the stadium. So thirty four million dollar project has improved
- 19:31Speaker 16: the water and transport networks around One New Zealand Stadium
- 19:34Speaker 16: ahead of its opening in April. MDTA cut funding for
- 19:38Speaker 16: the upgrades in November, so the council decided to cover
- 19:41Speaker 16: the costs themselves.
- 19:43Speaker 3: It says.
- 19:43Speaker 16: The final layer of ashvelt on the footpaths will be
- 19:46Speaker 16: completed later this year, along with landscaping works on the
- 19:50Speaker 16: stadium grounds. The six hundred and eighty three million dollar
- 19:54Speaker 16: stadium is on schedule to open in April next year.
- 19:57Speaker 3: Fantastic. That is always good news, Courtney.
- 19:59Speaker 1: How's fine with some morning frost this morning?
- 20:02Speaker 16: Westerly's are high.
- 20:03Speaker 11: Of a living.
- 20:05Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Courtney, Emex and Wellington, Hey Max,
- 20:07Speaker 3: good morning.
- 20:08Speaker 11: Jeez.
- 20:08Speaker 3: I had to laugh when I saw the you know
- 20:10Speaker 3: everybody else is getting the streets flooded by the weather.
- 20:13Speaker 3: Wellington started to themselves.
- 20:15Speaker 13: Yes, Taylor's old as time. Yeah, two steps forward for water,
- 20:19Speaker 13: one step back. The forward part is that finally the
- 20:23Speaker 13: final Regional Council has agreed to sign up to this
- 20:26Speaker 13: new joint water entity which will take effect in the
- 20:29Speaker 13: year's time. Upper Hut yesterday, confirming it will join podyvia
- 20:33Speaker 13: Lower Hut Wellington City. The Regional Council informing this body
- 20:36Speaker 13: that will take over drinking water, wastewater, storm water, don't
- 20:40Speaker 13: close the door on the way out, Wellington Water, more efficiency,
- 20:43Speaker 13: hope hopefully less in water charges and of course yeah, meanwhile,
- 20:47Speaker 13: we had this monster of a leak in the CBD yesterday,
- 20:50Speaker 13: a fifty year old pipe exploding on Johnston Street, spewing
- 20:55Speaker 13: brown water. Water was cut off to some officers. It
- 20:58Speaker 13: was later turned off for others. Work to fix it
- 21:01Speaker 13: went into the night, perhaps symbolic as it came virtually
- 21:05Speaker 13: the very moment the final death knell for Wellington Water sounded.
- 21:09Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like the pipes are in an artistic
- 21:12Speaker 3: expression of the city's feelings.
- 21:15Speaker 13: It makes sense as you were the next uh fine
- 21:18Speaker 13: light winds thirteen brilliant, Thank you, Hey Neva.
- 21:21Speaker 3: How are you?
- 21:22Speaker 17: Greetings?
- 21:22Speaker 3: Good things. Now you've got a financial update on our system, watercre.
- 21:27Speaker 17: That's right now water Care has completed. This is the
- 21:30Speaker 17: country's largest corporate debt capital rais. So this is now
- 21:34Speaker 17: at three point four billion dollars. What this means it
- 21:37Speaker 17: becomes financially separate from Auckland Council. So the move this
- 21:41Speaker 17: is just a key component of the government's local Water
- 21:43Speaker 17: Done Well legislation. This was announced in May last year.
- 21:47Speaker 17: Jamie Sinclair is the chief executive. He says the separation
- 21:50Speaker 17: gives water here the ability to borrow in its own
- 21:53Speaker 17: name for the first time and also borrow more so.
- 21:56Speaker 17: He says that means they can keep prices lower than
- 21:59Speaker 17: they could have otherwise today, you know, July first, everything's
- 22:02Speaker 17: coming in today. But water, key is water and wastewater
- 22:05Speaker 17: prices the increased by seven point two percent.
- 22:08Speaker 3: Just on that right, Hey, how's out with it today?
- 22:11Speaker 17: Ah? Cloudy, we've got isolated showers. They'll be clearing though.
- 22:14Speaker 17: Fifteen is the high here in Auckland.
- 22:15Speaker 3: Brilliant. Thank you, Neva. We'll see you later on. That
- 22:17Speaker 3: is neither with news nineteen minutes away from six here
- 22:20Speaker 3: on News Talk CREB and we will get to our
- 22:22Speaker 3: correspondent Donald tomorrow out of Australia.
- 22:24Speaker 11: Next.
- 22:26Speaker 3: A couple of things talk to her about, including Penny
- 22:27Speaker 3: one off to Washington, and then the coward punch? Does
- 22:32Speaker 3: changing a lure just saying you'll get an extra year
- 22:35Speaker 3: if you throw that punch change people's behavior? And if not,
- 22:41Speaker 3: because I don't necessarily think it will. But if not,
- 22:45Speaker 3: is there another meaning to having longer sentences? Is that
- 22:50Speaker 3: for the benefit of the victim perhaps rather than the system.
- 22:54Speaker 3: And if that's the goal, then surely it's got to
- 22:56Speaker 3: be a good thing. We'll talk to a Laurie about
- 22:58Speaker 3: this just before six. It's nineteen two International correspondence with
- 23:02Speaker 3: ends in eye Insurance peace of mind for New Zealand
- 23:05Speaker 3: Business sixth anyway from six News talks, there'd be done
- 23:08Speaker 3: on Tomaw's our Australia correspondent on a good morning, good
- 23:12Speaker 3: morning to you. Now we have deliberations. This is in
- 23:14Speaker 3: the Mushroom Lady murder trial.
- 23:17Speaker 18: Yes, so after more than nine weeks of legal proceedings,
- 23:20Speaker 18: the jury is deliberating on its verdict. The jury has
- 23:24Speaker 18: been sequestered so they can't actually go home. And as
- 23:28Speaker 18: I'll just give you a little bit of background. Obviously,
- 23:30Speaker 18: Aaron Pattison is accused of murdering three relatives and attempting
- 23:33Speaker 18: to murder at fourth at a lunch at her home
- 23:36Speaker 18: in Lencoln Gathera, which is southeastern Melbourne. That was way
- 23:38Speaker 18: back in twenty twenty three. She has pleaded not guilty
- 23:41Speaker 18: to all charges. Her lawyers argue the incident was a
- 23:44Speaker 18: tragic accident. Now, there were fifteen potential jurors that were
- 23:49Speaker 18: impaneled initially and the Supreme Court had these extras just
- 23:52Speaker 18: in case one fell sick or was discharged. Now I
- 23:55Speaker 18: don't know if you know this, but in May a
- 23:58Speaker 18: jura was actually removed. The judge in the court that
- 24:01Speaker 18: the juror had been discussing the case with family and friends,
- 24:05Speaker 18: and so the other two reserved duras are now also gone,
- 24:08Speaker 18: and so now we are left with the twelve people
- 24:11Speaker 18: which will determine if Miss Patterson is to be convicted
- 24:14Speaker 18: or acquitted. Now, there were more than fifty prosecution witnesses
- 24:17Speaker 18: in the trial, and of course we'll never know what
- 24:21Speaker 18: happens in that deliberation room, but we will know at
- 24:24Speaker 18: some point what they think, and obviously it has to
- 24:28Speaker 18: be a unanimous verdict, so we'll have to wait and
- 24:32Speaker 18: see what the jury decides.
- 24:34Speaker 3: Yeah, I think most people kind of have a pretty
- 24:37Speaker 3: clear view on what they think happened there, but we'll
- 24:39Speaker 3: just have to wait and see. Hey, Penny Wong heading
- 24:42Speaker 3: off to the US for talks with Washington, but not
- 24:44Speaker 3: everyone sort are happy that she's the one going.
- 24:47Speaker 18: Well, we know that Anthony Albaneze is still waiting face
- 24:51Speaker 18: to face with Donald Trump. But in the meantime, Foreign
- 24:53Speaker 18: Minister Pennywong is off to Washington. She's going to meet
- 24:56Speaker 18: with the Quad Foreign Ministers there. Now it's the second
- 25:00Speaker 18: foreign ministers meeting in just six months. She says it's
- 25:03Speaker 18: about strengthening corporation to ensure a peaceful, stable and prosperous
- 25:07Speaker 18: Indo Pacific. She's going to meet with the US Secretary
- 25:11Speaker 18: of State Mark Rubio, and she says it's just about
- 25:14Speaker 18: working to further Australia's economic and security partnerships and advance
- 25:19Speaker 18: our mutual interests, et cetera, et cetera. But we know
- 25:23Speaker 18: that defense spending is high on their gender. You might
- 25:25Speaker 18: recall that the US is still pushing for Australia to
- 25:29Speaker 18: increase defense spending lifted to three point five percent of
- 25:33Speaker 18: our GDP, and also obviously waiting to hear what's going
- 25:38Speaker 18: to happen with these tariffs, these Trump tariffs that we're introduced.
- 25:42Speaker 18: So she will be meeting with Japan, You're meeting with
- 25:44Speaker 18: India and obviously the US and interesting times for Penny
- 25:49Speaker 18: wont But as I said, elbows still yet to meet
- 25:51Speaker 18: with the administration.
- 25:52Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been to a hot minute two. Hasn't it
- 25:54Speaker 3: appreciated that Donna Donald, our Australia correspondent, thirteen minutes away
- 25:57Speaker 3: from six Brian Bridge, by the way, I see over
- 26:01Speaker 3: at the White House Press briefing room, that Caroline Leavitt
- 26:05Speaker 3: has been taken a new tactic holding up all the
- 26:07Speaker 3: central Bank interest rates, a big list of them to
- 26:10Speaker 3: the press saying look where we are. You know this
- 26:13Speaker 3: is part of their campaign to try and scare or
- 26:16Speaker 3: prompt jer own Power to start dropping rates, even though
- 26:19Speaker 3: he has clearly no intention of doing so. Thirteen minutes
- 26:23Speaker 3: away from six o'clock now the government here on a
- 26:26Speaker 3: bit of a roll with law and order announcements. Coward
- 26:28Speaker 3: punches will now be made a specific offense punishment eight
- 26:32Speaker 3: years or fifteen years if you and ten grievous bodily harm.
- 26:35Speaker 3: If a victim dies following an attack, the maximum penalty
- 26:39Speaker 3: is life, and new offenses will be added to the
- 26:43Speaker 3: three strikes legislation the regime. Julianne Kincaid is a case cy,
- 26:48Speaker 3: vice president of the Law Association. With me this morning, Jillian,
- 26:52Speaker 3: Good morning, Good morning Ryan, Thanks for being with me.
- 26:55Speaker 3: Do you think these changes will make a difference.
- 27:00Speaker 5: I think that they are cosmetic. I understand there has
- 27:04Speaker 5: been a lot of discussion looking for a form in
- 27:06Speaker 5: this area, but in effect, what these changes will do
- 27:10Speaker 5: is add one year to the maximum penalty of offenses
- 27:14Speaker 5: which already exist. So I don't think that in reality
- 27:18Speaker 5: they will have huge impact. On any particular case.
- 27:22Speaker 3: Is that because judges will use the discretion.
- 27:26Speaker 5: Look, sentencing in any case is always very complex, and
- 27:30Speaker 5: when we look at assault charges in particular, we look
- 27:33Speaker 5: first of all at the harm that was caused, the
- 27:34Speaker 5: grievous fully harmor was at an injury, and then we
- 27:38Speaker 5: look at the intent behind it, which helps us to
- 27:42Speaker 5: choose which one of the myriad of assault charges there are.
- 27:45Speaker 5: There's at least over thirteen already in the Crimes Act.
- 27:49Speaker 5: This is adding another two. The fact that they're also
- 27:52Speaker 5: putting these onto the three strikes legislation isn't the difference
- 27:56Speaker 5: because of the offenses that already exist are strike offenses well.
- 28:00Speaker 5: And also the fact that the maximum penalty in a
- 28:03Speaker 5: culpable homicide in a case of this nature is one
- 28:06Speaker 5: of life imprisonment is not a change and that's already
- 28:09Speaker 5: the case, right, So I think it's quite cosmetic.
- 28:12Speaker 3: Okay. Do those who perperpetrate these types of attacks think
- 28:18Speaker 3: about the sentence when they're doing it? Typically?
- 28:21Speaker 5: Well, no, of course, not often that type of offense
- 28:25Speaker 5: who cars at night when people are perhaps have had
- 28:28Speaker 5: a few drinks and so on. I don't think it
- 28:31Speaker 5: would stop anyone in that particular situation, it doors allow
- 28:35Speaker 5: for advertising. However, as it's happened in Australia, and this
- 28:39Speaker 5: is a law that does exist in some states in Australia's,
- 28:42Speaker 5: there's no comparable legislation in England. I would like to
- 28:46Speaker 5: add one thing round that an attack to the head
- 28:48Speaker 5: is already an aggravating feature for assault cases, whether it's
- 28:52Speaker 5: one punch or several, it's already a factor which is
- 28:56Speaker 5: very much taken into accountant sentence.
- 28:59Speaker 3: This is different than isn't it. This is a punch
- 29:01Speaker 3: you had no warning about, you didn't see coming. You
- 29:04Speaker 3: can't brace yourself, you can't defend yourself.
- 29:08Speaker 5: Yes, look, thankfully these cases do exist. Of course they do.
- 29:12Speaker 5: And there was one widely publicized case where people were
- 29:16Speaker 5: concerned with the sentence saying, which led to a lot
- 29:20Speaker 5: of discussion on this, and I'm lawyers are always very
- 29:23Speaker 5: cautious about any legislation that arises out of one particular case.
- 29:28Speaker 5: There are as a long line of authorities for situations
- 29:33Speaker 5: where this type of one punch has occurred, and judges
- 29:36Speaker 5: have been sentencing in this category for a very long time.
- 29:40Speaker 5: Most of the time it doesn't cause anyone any concern
- 29:43Speaker 5: at all. Appreciate now and again there can be some
- 29:45Speaker 5: cases which do we shouldn't legislates on the basis of
- 29:49Speaker 5: those one or two situations.
- 29:52Speaker 3: But why not, Because that's one or two families who
- 29:55Speaker 3: don't feel they've had justice. Some guy who's come up
- 29:58Speaker 3: behind their son, their brother, their husband while they's out
- 30:01Speaker 3: having a good time, puts them from the back of
- 30:03Speaker 3: the head. I mean, who key is what's wrong with
- 30:06Speaker 3: legislating for one or two.
- 30:07Speaker 5: Cases, because it's very difficult to take all of the
- 30:10Speaker 5: factors in that one case and then apply them out
- 30:14Speaker 5: right across the board for everyone. There's so many different
- 30:17Speaker 5: factors that apply in all sorts of cases, including assault cases,
- 30:21Speaker 5: and in my respectful opinion, they're already very much covered
- 30:26Speaker 5: in all of the legislations. Often families are very unhappy
- 30:30Speaker 5: with outcoming cases, but it doesn't mean that the legislation
- 30:34Speaker 5: that sits behind them is in fact wrong or not
- 30:36Speaker 5: working properly. Julie, that's a different feature.
- 30:39Speaker 3: I appreciate. I appreciate your time this morning, Julian kink Casey,
- 30:43Speaker 3: Vice President of the Law Association, with an opinion I'm
- 30:45Speaker 3: sure many of you will be scratching your heads out potentially,
- 30:51Speaker 3: because in my mind, if the justice system isn't serving
- 30:55Speaker 3: the victim's family, is what's the point of a justice system?
- 30:58Speaker 3: You know, it's the it's there to punish, yes, but
- 31:01Speaker 3: it's also there to to help with the healing of
- 31:05Speaker 3: the victim, isn't it? Nine nine two, It's eight to
- 31:09Speaker 3: six News Talks MB.
- 31:11Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge on early edition with ex bowl insulation keeping
- 31:16Speaker 2: chili hos warm and dry.
- 31:17Speaker 1: This Winter News Talks.
- 31:19Speaker 3: MB just gone six minutes away from six now. Lots
- 31:21Speaker 3: of texts on the coward punch law change. We just
- 31:24Speaker 3: spoke to a lawyer, a KC about this, Ryan, about
- 31:26Speaker 3: the coward's punch. Surely it would be better to up
- 31:29Speaker 3: the minimum sentence. The judge has too much discretion when
- 31:32Speaker 3: you give them a discount on a maximum sentence. It's
- 31:34Speaker 3: a very good point, Ryan. Why is a punch to
- 31:37Speaker 3: the back of my head worse than one straight in
- 31:39Speaker 3: my face by someone twice my size? Well, you can't
- 31:43Speaker 3: do anything about a punch that comes to the back
- 31:45Speaker 3: of your head, can you? If you don't know it's coming,
- 31:47Speaker 3: you can't move, you can't brace, you can't your powerless, Ryan,
- 31:52Speaker 3: should we should get Ai to replace lawyers and judges
- 31:55Speaker 3: one day the outcomes will be fast, simpler and clearer.
- 31:58Speaker 3: Five to six Bridge might with us. Hey, Mike morning,
- 32:03Speaker 3: good morning. What do you think of the coward punch?
- 32:06Speaker 9: I think it might work or it might not. They
- 32:07Speaker 9: called it a king hit in Australia. I don't know
- 32:09Speaker 9: why it's become a coward punch, but.
- 32:11Speaker 3: I think because they wanted to make it less cool.
- 32:13Speaker 3: You know, was right.
- 32:15Speaker 9: So you're on the street and you're about to deck
- 32:19Speaker 9: somebody and you're going, well, it was gonna but now
- 32:21Speaker 9: it's called and you used a coward punch, so I won't.
- 32:28Speaker 3: I can know. I can kind of understand though, like
- 32:30Speaker 3: if you're doing the headline and a paper, a coward
- 32:33Speaker 3: punch couches it and better hang on about to hit you.
- 32:39Speaker 9: But I'm just thinking, now, what's the headline.
- 32:41Speaker 3: In the paper? And not for the guy who keep digging, Ryan.
- 32:44Speaker 9: Keep digging, mate, Dear. It sounds like I think you
- 32:51Speaker 9: made a reasonable point before having said that, and your
- 32:54Speaker 9: point being that no one's thinking about this on the street,
- 32:57Speaker 9: are they, and so you're not thinking of the consequences.
- 32:59Speaker 9: But also I was watched the Prime Minister yesterday post cabinet,
- 33:01Speaker 9: and his point was, you know, people in the jail
- 33:03Speaker 9: are going to be people in the jail, and we
- 33:05Speaker 9: have more people in the jail, so be it.
- 33:07Speaker 3: That's just laughing.
- 33:07Speaker 9: We'll need to build more jails. And I think ultimately
- 33:10Speaker 9: they're probably on the right side of this, because if you.
- 33:12Speaker 3: Think about punishments around the world, people are a lot
- 33:15Speaker 3: harsher than us. You know, where they have but where
- 33:17Speaker 3: they have the death penalty, people still murder, of course,
- 33:20Speaker 3: do you know what I mean?
- 33:20Speaker 9: So if you're looking, if you're looking for the ultimate deterrent,
- 33:23Speaker 9: there is no greater deterrent than you.
- 33:25Speaker 3: We will kill you, but it doesn't stop you. It
- 33:28Speaker 3: doesn't stop you, you know.
- 33:28Speaker 9: So I think I think the reality will come to
- 33:30Speaker 9: the conclusion that there need to be a proportion of
- 33:32Speaker 9: people locked away, and when they're locked away, we're safer.
- 33:36Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that anyway.
- 33:38Speaker 9: David seymore on the privacy of the fit.
- 33:40Speaker 3: Do you kill?
- 33:40Speaker 9: The fairies are partly privatized, you know, and if they
- 33:44Speaker 9: improve the service, who.
- 33:45Speaker 3: Could do a worse child than what okay, civil I
- 33:48Speaker 3: would make for your next All the problems of the
- 33:51Speaker 3: world solved here before sex even Who's talked To.
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