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What does your employer do to make your life easier? · Anele and the Club on 947

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  Speaker 1: Wake up with a bang.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, wake up. Anele and the club.
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  Speaker 1: On 947.
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  Speaker 3: And you will excuse myself and Frankie at the moment.
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  Speaker 3: We are using you guys to do a bit of
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  Speaker 3: research for our own company.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: So we have about 30 staff members.
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  Speaker 1: Something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Something around there. And we need to find a way
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  Speaker 3: to bolster the offering, Timbegile.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Outside of the salary and the medical aids and all
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  Speaker 3: of that stuff, we need to find something. Or, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a rule, do something that makes things softer for everyone.
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  Speaker 2: And you've come to me as the shop steward, the
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  Speaker 2: leader of the people.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: To convince me.
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  Speaker 3: No, we just want you to watch. We just want
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  Speaker 3: you to watch.
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  Speaker 2: And nod and all of that. So what do I
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  Speaker 2: do with all the t-shirts with my face on them?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: Hang on to those for yourself, please.
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  Speaker 3: 011-8838-947, where are you working right now? What have your
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  Speaker 3: bosses implemented that just makes.
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  Speaker 2: Your working life easier?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's either an employee benefit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right, so some kind of... Because you get so many
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  Speaker 1: weird ones as well. People are like, you get a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of petrol card or maybe you get... You know,
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  Speaker 1: like those are the HRE kind of ones. But sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it's like the small things. The boss decides to do
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  Speaker 1: one small thing for everyone.
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  Speaker 2: For instance, when the petrol price went up.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Did your boss say, okay, guys, everybody an extra 500
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  Speaker 3: rands for their salary just so the petrol price doesn't
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  Speaker 3: affect you that much?
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Do you guys have a nursery school inside your building?
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  Speaker 2: Childcare assistance. That is the ultimate perk.
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  Speaker 3: The fact that for your lunch break, you can go
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  Speaker 3: and hang out with your little one.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, stop it.
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  Speaker 4: Really?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know R & B does it.
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  Speaker 5: Really?
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  Speaker 1: I thought you guys would just get away from them.
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 7: R & B, as far as I know, they have
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  Speaker 7: a nursery school within their building.
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  Speaker 1: A creche?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Stop it.
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  Speaker 7: And then at your lunch break, you can go see
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  Speaker 7: your kid.
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  Speaker 2: And how many kids does it take?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: R & B is a huge building.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know the actual details, but I do know
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  Speaker 7: that they had a... a little nursery school downstairs.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, these are the things we want you to tell
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  Speaker 2: us about.
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  Speaker 7: But I know some companies are like, oh, you can
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  Speaker 7: work from home on like a Tuesday or a Thursday
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  Speaker 7: or et cetera, just to save that cost of traveling
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  Speaker 7: in and out.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I know some companies and I, this is the
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  Speaker 3: R & B story. McDonald's, because McDonald's, most of them
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  Speaker 3: are open 24 seven.
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  Speaker 2: They take their stuff home in the evening.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so they got like a transport, public transport, staff transport.
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  Speaker 2: And I've seen it.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, you know, those huge Mercedes-Benz sprinters?
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: McDonald's all over and they're like staff in transit. So
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  Speaker 2: they drop.
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  Speaker 3: Their staff off at night because obviously public transport at
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  Speaker 3: like 11 at night, not the safest.
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  Speaker 5: I think we still have one here. I mean, from
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  Speaker 5: when I used to do it overnight, there was transport for...
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  Speaker 5: the people who worked overnights and didn't have a car.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, stop it, Prime Media.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially people who work shifts that are sort of
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  Speaker 1: before public transport kicks in.
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  Speaker 3: 011-8838-947, these are the things that we're looking for. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: we get the normal employee benefits. Okay, but if you
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  Speaker 3: want to brag about that, just actually go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like, in what way are.
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  Speaker 3: Your bosses going beyond the call of duty when it
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  Speaker 3: comes to you?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, the one thing I appreciate about the public broadcaster...
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  Speaker 5: because that's where I moonlight on a Sunday night. The
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  Speaker 5: lifts work Monday to Friday. But on a Sunday, I
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  Speaker 5: think just to get back at me, someone, they're not broken.
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  Speaker 5: Someone turns the thing off so that they can watch
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  Speaker 5: Pooh Bear, that's me, go up the stairs.
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  Speaker 3: And that's nice because they're contributing to your 10,000.
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  Speaker 2: Steps a day. A healthy heart.
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  Speaker 8: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Pay your TV licenses.
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  Speaker 1: Saving electricity and Timbukila.
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  Speaker 2: There we go. In one move. There we go.
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  Speaker 4: 011-8838-947.
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  Speaker 2: Send us a voice note.
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  Speaker 7: 084-000-947.
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  Speaker 3: Both employer and employee can get hold of us here.
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  Speaker 3: If you're an employee, let us know how your employer
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  Speaker 3: is making life easier for you at work. And then
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  Speaker 3: if you're an employer... Let us know what are you
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  Speaker 3: doing and what was the need? What happened for you
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  Speaker 3: to decide for yourself? Actually, this is what I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to do. And if you're an employer, we know that
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  Speaker 3: you feel chuffed about it. You know, they're like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: pat on the back, look at me.
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  Speaker 2: They might be ungrateful. They might have forgotten that you're
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  Speaker 2: an amazing employer. But we, we won't forget. Let us know.
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  Speaker 2: Home loan staff rates. Couldn't ask for anything better.
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  Speaker 4: I own a marketing agency.
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  Speaker 2: We are all women.
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  Speaker 9: And we offer our staff One day a month on
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  Speaker 9: a Friday, a half.
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  Speaker 5: Day to take off to go and do their hair
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  Speaker 5: or their nails.
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  Speaker 6: One of the benefits we have that's pretty cool is
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  Speaker 6: we get around 6,700 Rand a year to use on
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  Speaker 6: either your home office supplies or health related expenses.
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  Speaker 4: I remember during COVID, our boss was like, as long
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  Speaker 4: as I've got food, I'm not retrenching anybody. I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to pay everybody full salaries. I'll go down with this
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  Speaker 4: ship if I have to.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's nice.
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  Speaker 2: That's lovely.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, the lady who gets 7,000 rand a year for
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  Speaker 3: home office supplies.
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  Speaker 2: Gin is an office supply at home, right? Let's come back.
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  Speaker 1: Let's come back. It's a coping mechanism.
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  Speaker 2: Come on. Gin and orange juice. Some people serve tea. I,
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  Speaker 2: in my office, serve gin. There we go. Juni, are
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  Speaker 2: you in Bryanston? Good morning.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, how are you?
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  Speaker 2: Good to have you on the radio.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Give this man a boom, boom, boom. Okay, Junior, talk
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  Speaker 2: to us.
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  Speaker 10: So in my company, we create a me day. So
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  Speaker 10: the company literally gives you a me day. That's like
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  Speaker 10: a leave day that's not in your leave, but like
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  Speaker 10: the company gives you that day to say, you know what, guys,
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  Speaker 10: all of you are off, be at home. do whatever,
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  Speaker 10: it's a leave day, whatever. And normally, what's great about
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  Speaker 10: it is that they make sure that it comes up
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  Speaker 10: during like a public holiday. So let's say the public
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  Speaker 10: holiday is on like a Thursday. So the Friday, you
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  Speaker 10: guys get a weekday. Plus, another perk is that you're
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  Speaker 10: really hybrid. So essentially, you're also working from home.
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  Speaker 1: You get that.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know how useful that is, eh? It sounds like
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  Speaker 1: such a silly thing, a me day. But think about
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  Speaker 1: all the times you've got to do some kind of admin,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to go to Home Affairs for something, get
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  Speaker 1: an ID card, whatever, you know, like those are the
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  Speaker 1: things you postpone because it always has to happen during
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  Speaker 1: work hours.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, so it's also like one perk is that even
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  Speaker 10: when the public holidays, not a public holiday, like the
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  Speaker 10: public holidays on Friday, Monday you're off for the me day.
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  Speaker 2: So it's an extra long weekend for you.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, essentially.
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  Speaker 2: Long weekend end. Junior, what company is this?
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  Speaker 10: So my company is called Sakana. It's like a digital
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  Speaker 10: insights company. So like the FMCG industry, basically.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Well, round of applause. Tell them we say rah-rah to
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  Speaker 2: me days.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, definitely, definitely.
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  Speaker 2: Musa, good morning. You're at Rodeput. What does your company do?
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  Speaker 11: Hi, I'm in the club. First time on radio. I'm
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  Speaker 11: in the club, that is. Welcome to Rodeput.
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  Speaker 3: Buso, what's your company doing that makes you go, I've
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  Speaker 3: got the best employer in the world?
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  Speaker 11: Yep, we are. I've got like three pegs, which I
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  Speaker 11: think are awesome. Firstly, we get to work from home
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  Speaker 11: two days in a week. Secondly, we've got a concierge
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  Speaker 11: service where they do everything for us. If you want
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  Speaker 11: your license renewed, they do it for us. They do
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  Speaker 11: that for us. We want flowers to be delivered to
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  Speaker 11: your wife or someone in the office, we send them, say,
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  Speaker 11: please go send flowers to my wife. They do that
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  Speaker 11: for us. And the same thing also, I also have
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  Speaker 11: what we call a homework assist. So if your child
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  Speaker 11: needs help with homework, you book a tutor and then
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  Speaker 11: they call them late in the evening and then they
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  Speaker 11: help them with their homework.
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  Speaker 2: Do they allow you to go home?
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  Speaker 11: I mean, they're doing everything for you. Yes, after all.
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  Speaker 11: But one of the biggest things is that we get
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  Speaker 11: our bonuses, say, in March. However, we don't get 13 checks.
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  Speaker 11: But to help us with the December expenses, a certain
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  Speaker 11: percentage of our annual salary is paid to us in December.
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  Speaker 11: And then come bonus time in March, you'll get your bonus.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so you get a pre-bonus, and then they calculate
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  Speaker 1: it in March just to make sure that you're sorted.
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  Speaker 2: Where is this?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Where do you work, Muso? And what is the recruitment
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  Speaker 3: looking like?
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  Speaker 2: Are there vacancies? Are there any vacancies in the company?
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  Speaker 11: I went for the yellow umbrella. I'm under the yellow umbrella.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, MTN.
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  Speaker 1: No, Santam. Oh, sorry.
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  Speaker 2: I heard yellow and I decided MTN.
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  Speaker 1: You failed your interview, my sister.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no. I know. I also saw Ruripa, so I
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  Speaker 2: thought 14th Avenue.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I see.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, is this Santam?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it would be weird for Suntime to not
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  Speaker 3: have employee benefits because that's what you guys are selling
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  Speaker 3: the rest of the country.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying? So can you imagine
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  Speaker 2: if they get it wrong?
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  Speaker 1: To the concierge service.
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  Speaker 11: It's so cool.
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  Speaker 2: That does your entire life.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, you've got your life sorted out. You don't have
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  Speaker 11: to worry about much. Like I say, license, disk, traffic signs,
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  Speaker 11: Deliveries and more and more and more.
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  Speaker 1: Because that's the thing. Think about how much, like exactly
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  Speaker 1: like you're saying, like let's say you want to send
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  Speaker 1: your flowers or whatever. The amount of time you're spending online,
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  Speaker 1: finding the details, typing what flowers do we choose now.
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  Speaker 2: Address.
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  Speaker 1: It's an hour.
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  Speaker 2: Tutoring, the cost of tutoring, just that alone. Musa, how
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  Speaker 2: long have you been with the yellow umbrella?
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  Speaker 11: I'm not going anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, actually. It's 2046 and Musa is still ahead sometime.
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  Speaker 2: Well done to them.
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  Speaker 4: So nice to hear about all these companies in the
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  Speaker 4: private sector.
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  Speaker 1: They're the public broadcaster. They take away at least one
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  Speaker 1: perk every six months.
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  Speaker 9: At Westmead, we have two and a half hours per
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  Speaker 9: month to do admin hours. So we don't need to
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  Speaker 9: take leave. We have half a day off on our birthdays.
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  Speaker 9: We also get a gift from our company on our birthdays.
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  Speaker 9: We have an event every quarter, just like a team
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  Speaker 9: building event.
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  Speaker 12: And my company that I work for, you get off
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  Speaker 12: on your birthday. It doesn't affect your leave days and
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  Speaker 12: also get to work from home Wednesday, Thursday and Fridays.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my company is rubbish.
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  Speaker 3: We don't even have medical aid and we're one of
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  Speaker 3: the biggest banks in South Africa.
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  Speaker 2: But, but.
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  Speaker 3: Your interest rates when you take out a bond with
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  Speaker 3: that bank.
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  Speaker 1: Exceptional.
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  Speaker 2: Exceptional. So take it, lady. Have it. We'll get medical aid.
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  Speaker 2: You guys will get houses.
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  Speaker 11: Oh, no way.
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  Speaker 3: There is not a bank in this country that doesn't
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  Speaker 3: give their employees better rates when they get cars and houses.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder how much better the rates are. I'd be
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  Speaker 1: interested to know that.
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  Speaker 3: My friend, when she left a bank to go work
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  Speaker 3: somewhere else, she was.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't think it through and she was devastated.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, she hated life.
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  Speaker 3: And she was getting paid a lot more because she
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  Speaker 3: went to a telecoms after that. I think she left
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  Speaker 3: NetBank to go to Vodacom or something like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: she hated life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you forget to check what you're... It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter how much more they're paying you.
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  Speaker 2: She hated life. So every single bank, that much I know.
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  Speaker 2: That much I know. Rufila, you're in Baroni. Good morning.
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  Speaker 13: Good morning.
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  Speaker 2: How are you, Fifi girl?
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  Speaker 13: I'm well, thanks. And how are you, Anile?
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  Speaker 2: I'm about to be very jealous of what you're telling
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  Speaker 2: us here. Talk to us.
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  Speaker 13: Okay, so first of all, we get a birthday leave.
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  Speaker 13: So if your birthday is during the week or any
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  Speaker 13: other day, you can get a Monday or a Friday offer.
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  Speaker 10: Depends on how busy we are.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: We all, yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 13: And we also get profit share every quarter.
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  Speaker 2: Every quarter?
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  Speaker 13: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
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  Speaker 3: I know I'm asking a lot now, but in the
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  Speaker 3: last quarter, how much was your profit check?
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  Speaker 13: All right, because I'm still new at the company. I
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  Speaker 13: didn't get profit share for the quarter that they received.
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  Speaker 13: So I'm only going to get it now in the
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  Speaker 13: next quarter.
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  Speaker 2: And what are you looking at?
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  Speaker 13: I'm not sure. I'm hoping that the company has done
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  Speaker 13: really great so we.
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  Speaker 10: Can get a really great profit share.
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  Speaker 1: Is it a really big company? Or is it like reasonably...
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  Speaker 1: Medium size.
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  Speaker 13: Reasonably big.
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  Speaker 1: Reasonably big.
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  Speaker 3: How many, like what's your staff compliment?
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  Speaker 13: Over a hundred.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And are you part of the team that's bringing in
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  Speaker 1: the money?
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  Speaker 13: I'm the face of the company.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Look at you.
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  Speaker 13: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I'm really interested to know, like what does the check
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  Speaker 2: look like?
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  Speaker 1: Is it 50,000?
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  Speaker 2: Is it 100,000?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it'll be a percentage, I suppose, of your salary.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it will be. Your colleagues, how much did they get?
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  Speaker 3: Give me one example of what one of your colleagues
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  Speaker 3: got if they've told you.
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  Speaker 13: I wouldn't know. We don't share such confidential information.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to keep quiet.
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  Speaker 2: What are you guys talking about at lunch? You're just
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  Speaker 2: going to ring about the boss and what?
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  Speaker 13: Remember what you said last week about work?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, fine.
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  Speaker 13: Friends at home. So that's how we keep it.
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  Speaker 2: Fine. Got it. That came to bite me in the bum.
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  Speaker 2: I just need numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like 5% of your salary or whatever, 10%.
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  Speaker 1: That'd be cool to know, though. Every quarter.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, every quarter, guys. That will keep you guys motivated.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's the point is that, you know, if
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  Speaker 1: you guys work really hard, you're going to get the money.
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  Speaker 2: Right around the corner.
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  Speaker 3: Because profit share once a year, you kind of, you
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  Speaker 3: can get despondent and life can get.
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  Speaker 2: Hold of you. It's long, you know, like year to
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  Speaker 2: year is long. But every quarter. Oh, my word. Good morning.
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  Speaker 8: Good morning, guys.
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  Speaker 2: How are you, Lindu? Oh, no, this is our professional person.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, she is the managing director of, is it Rem
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  Speaker 3: Channel or is it R-E-M Channel?
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  Speaker 8: It's Rem Channel. It's Rem Channel.
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  Speaker 2: And you guys, you're part of Old Mutual Group, right?
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  Speaker 8: Yes, we are a subsidiary of the Old Mutual Group.
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  Speaker 8: So what we do is we do remuneration research and
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  Speaker 8: we help companies put together their value propositions in line
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  Speaker 8: with what everybody has said. We actually do the research.
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  Speaker 8: So we benchmark pay, employee benefits, incentives, and we help
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  Speaker 8: them also with reward governance and all the strategies that
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  Speaker 8: they need to put together to attract people.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Lindywe, so here we go. You have got a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of employers involved. Who are listening right now. Let's
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  Speaker 3: put together a nice little offering that they could give
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  Speaker 3: their staff.
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  Speaker 2: Top of the list.
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  Speaker 3: When you look at all the benefits and you think
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  Speaker 3: to yourself, this one, every single person who's employed should
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  Speaker 3: have this.
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  Speaker 2: What is it?
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  Speaker 8: I think a lot of people are struggling now financially.
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  Speaker 8: So transport costs are a big thing that everyone is
• 14:55
  Speaker 8: just trying to manage. So what a lot of employers
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  Speaker 8: are actually trying to do now is optimize the work
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  Speaker 8: from home for those employees that actually can do their
• 15:04
  Speaker 8: work from home. They also provide travel allowances for those
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  Speaker 8: jobs that require travel. But obviously, that's a taxable benefit.
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  Speaker 8: So it's important that whoever gets a travel allowance actually
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  Speaker 8: has a logbook so that they can deal with the
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  Speaker 8: SaaS issues that can come out of that. We're also
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  Speaker 8: seeing quite a lot of innovation, hey, when it comes
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  Speaker 8: to just, you know, other ways that companies are enhancing
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  Speaker 8: their EVPs. So, for instance, because cash flow is always
• 15:32
  Speaker 8: an issue, there's now more on-demand pay. In other words,
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  Speaker 8: people don't have to wait for the end of the
• 15:37
  Speaker 8: month to be paid. And this really helps with managing
• 15:40
  Speaker 8: loan shacks because if people are out of pocket during
• 15:43
  Speaker 8: the month, they tend to go to very expensive Mashonisa loans.
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  Speaker 8: So we are seeing an end wage access type of
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  Speaker 8: instrument where people can actually get paid as they earn
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  Speaker 8: their salaries.
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  Speaker 3: So every, sometimes every second week or every week, like
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: at the end of the week, you get like a
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: quarter of your salary four times a month and then
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  Speaker 3: it works out.
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  Speaker 10: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 8: But it also comes with financial coaching and money literacy
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  Speaker 8: built into that so that people can actually start managing
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  Speaker 8: their money more effectively. So things like debt counseling, budgeting
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  Speaker 8: tools and so on are part of the requirements for
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  Speaker 8: you to be able to access that money. And it
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  Speaker 8: also needs to be for the needs, obviously, that you
• 16:24
  Speaker 8: have during the month. so that it doesn't then take
• 16:27
  Speaker 8: away your monthly obligations. For instance, things that you have
• 16:29
  Speaker 8: to pay on a month basis still have to be
• 16:31
  Speaker 8: catered for.
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  Speaker 1: So, I mean, I think the point you're trying to
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: make is that Joburg Day tickets wouldn't fall under that need, right?
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  Speaker 1: Or would they?
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  Speaker 8: I heard that gin and tonic is also a necessity.
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  Speaker 8: That's why you guys are conflicted.
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  Speaker 1: As you can see, our bosses have the most with us. No,
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  Speaker 1: I can imagine.
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  Speaker 5: I can imagine.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so we've got the travel allowance.
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  Speaker 3: We've got maybe the weekly payments where you're taking it
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  Speaker 3: from a salary to wages.
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  Speaker 2: I love the whole.
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  Speaker 3: Managing the machanisas thing because that's what happens. Like on
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: the 14th of the month, you go and you take
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  Speaker 3: a loan. It's got exorbitant interest rates. It's got dire
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  Speaker 3: circumstances and consequences if you do not pay.
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  Speaker 2: So that's really nice. Anything else there, Lindywee?
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  Speaker 8: Yes, so health benefits are a big thing. So a
• 17:23
  Speaker 8: lot of organizations are actually investing in the health and
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: wellness of their employees, both mental, physical, and so on.
• 17:29
  Speaker 8: So we're seeing quite a lot of women's and specialized
• 17:33
  Speaker 8: health products included. So for instance, menopause, fertility support, cancer screening, proactive, preventative,
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  Speaker 8: health screening, mental health. It's no longer a taboo. It's
• 17:45
  Speaker 8: really something that we see a lot of employers invest in.
• 17:49
  Speaker 8: Caregiving and elderly care support, I mean, you wouldn't have thought.
• 17:52
  Speaker 8: There has generally been a focus on children, but we've
• 17:55
  Speaker 8: got a sandwich generation now that has to look at
• 17:58
  Speaker 8: both children as also elderly parents. So we are seeing
• 18:02
  Speaker 8: a lot of employers starting to provide that as well.
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  Speaker 8: We're also seeing a focus on designing the workplace. One
• 18:12
  Speaker 8: of our studies, the Employee Benefit Survey, has actually indicated
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: that A lot of employers, as the callers were saying,
• 18:19
  Speaker 8: are now requiring employees to at least be at work
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: or in the office two days a week. So what
• 18:24
  Speaker 8: there's been a focus on is neurodiversity-friendly workplaces. So employers
• 18:30
  Speaker 8: are designing quiet zones, flexible communication systems, They're looking at
• 18:34
  Speaker 8: ways in which people can still be productive because a
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: lot of people were saying, yo, if there's a lot
• 18:38
  Speaker 8: of disturbance at the office, how can we be productive?
• 18:41
  Speaker 8: Because when we're at home, we can focus and all that.
• 18:44
  Speaker 8: So there's a lot of effort around how people can collaborate,
• 18:48
  Speaker 8: but at the same time have quiet zones so that
• 18:50
  Speaker 8: they can remain productive.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Okay. Lindywe, quick question, because we have a moment. I
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: want to ask you, because obviously government... gives tax breaks
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: for certain things right is there one thing that you
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: guys because i suppose at your level as managing director
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: of the rem channel you get to maybe send a
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: mail to the finance minister right who decides these things
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  Speaker 1: but is there one thing that you've noticed and you're
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: like if government did the tax break on this it
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: would really impact so many people so so much better.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think education. A lot of people actually spend
• 19:28
  Speaker 8: a lot of money on educating their children and educating
• 19:31
  Speaker 8: themselves for that matter. Yes, there are skills-focused programs that
• 19:37
  Speaker 8: employers can do in order to also make sure that
• 19:40
  Speaker 8: their own people continuously learn and develop. But I think
• 19:45
  Speaker 8: from an employee perspective, if there were text breaks for
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: anything that you use, to fund your children's education or
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: your own development for that matter, if your employer doesn't
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: necessarily support that.
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  Speaker 2: That is brilliant.
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  Speaker 1: That makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: Lindy Westibesho, she's the managing director of REM Channel, which
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: is a subsidiary of the old mutual group. I like
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: that you said, you know, some employers, you know, they
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: offer you financial coaching.
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  Speaker 2: You went too far.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Just stop at finances. Offer me finances. Don't worry about
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: finance coaching.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Just give me finances.
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  Speaker 5: Take a final.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Back to making your morning.
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  Speaker 9: Back.
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  Speaker 1: On LA and the club.
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  Speaker 6: I love this show. On 947.