Latest / The Breakfast Club / Eric Garner Family And Reverend Al Sharpton Interview
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Real people, real celebrity join the Breakfast Morning. Everybody is
- 0:08Speaker 1: DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the
- 0:11Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. We have some special special guests with us
- 0:15Speaker 1: this morning. The family of Eric Garner, his wife he
- 0:20Speaker 1: saw Garner. Did I say your name right? Yes? You did,
- 0:22Speaker 1: daughter Emerald Garnering and Red Morning, Good morning. Go First
- 0:29Speaker 1: of all, thank you for joining us this morning. Thank
- 0:31Speaker 1: you for having me first. You know, I want to
- 0:34Speaker 1: send our condolences and that we're so so absolute. Absolutely.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Now let's take it back a little bit. Let's let's
- 0:40Speaker 1: start from the day that everything happened. What actually happened.
- 0:44Speaker 1: We heard so much from the news, from media, from newspapers.
- 0:47Speaker 1: We never really and we we Okay, Well, that morning,
- 0:54Speaker 1: you know, he had sitnesses and stuff. So he was
- 0:56Speaker 1: sneezing a lot, and I said back, why don't you
- 0:59Speaker 1: stay in the house And he said, oh, I can't
- 1:01Speaker 1: make no money in the house. Bad, I'm going out.
- 1:02Speaker 1: So I said, okay. So he dropped me off where
- 1:05Speaker 1: I was going and he looked back at me and
- 1:09Speaker 1: he said, babe, give me a kiss. Like I've been
- 1:11Speaker 1: married to him for twenty eight years. He never asked
- 1:14Speaker 1: me for a kiss like, you know, like that. So
- 1:17Speaker 1: he's like, why are you looking at me like that?
- 1:19Speaker 1: I said, because you never asked me for a kiss before.
- 1:21Speaker 1: So I gave him a kiss. He said, you're cooking.
- 1:23Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I'm cooking, fat boy. That was my
- 1:26Speaker 1: little nickname for yes. And he said, on what you're cooking?
- 1:30Speaker 1: I said, pork chops and writes and being. He said
- 1:32Speaker 1: sound good. I say, ain't thing good to you? So
- 1:34Speaker 1: then he looked I said, all right, I love you,
- 1:36Speaker 1: see you later. Be careful and he looked back. He
- 1:38Speaker 1: said right back at you, and he drove off. I
- 1:42Speaker 1: went to my appointment or whatever. I got home. It
- 1:44Speaker 1: was approximately about five minutes to three, no, about two
- 1:48Speaker 1: forty five. You know, he usually texts me every couple
- 1:51Speaker 1: of hours to let me know that he was okay,
- 1:53Speaker 1: everything was good, if he was coming in early or whatever.
- 1:56Speaker 1: So he texts me and he's like, I'm okay. So
- 1:59Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I go watch TV whatever. My son
- 2:03Speaker 1: gets up and he comes in the room and he says, man,
- 2:05Speaker 1: you're still gonna give me twenty dollars I actually for yesterday.
- 2:08Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, boy, just give me my purse. So
- 2:09Speaker 1: he hands me my purse, he goes outside. I lived
- 2:12Speaker 1: on the first floor, so he immediately comes back in
- 2:15Speaker 1: the house and he's like, ma, I think you should
- 2:17Speaker 1: call Daddy, And I said for what. I'm like, you know,
- 2:20Speaker 1: he'd be home in a couple of hours. I'm not
- 2:21Speaker 1: gonna bother him. He said, somebody just said they choked him.
- 2:25Speaker 1: That daddy got choked out on Bay Street. So me,
- 2:29Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm thinking, okay, he got arrested again.
- 2:33Speaker 1: Let me just go sit outside, keep my phone on
- 2:36Speaker 1: so he's gonna call me, bail him out, whatever the
- 2:39Speaker 1: case may be. I get on the front bench and
- 2:42Speaker 1: now my phone is ringing, and it's ringing numbers that
- 2:45Speaker 1: I've never seen before. So I'm like hello. They're like, Pinky,
- 2:49Speaker 1: you need to get down here quick. Your husband's not breathing.
- 2:51Speaker 1: So I'm like what. They're like, he's not breathing. They're
- 2:54Speaker 1: trying to revive him, they're working on him or whatever.
- 2:57Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, So I call a cab. By
- 2:59Speaker 1: the time the cat app got there, I got another
- 3:01Speaker 1: phone call that said go straight to the hospital because
- 3:04Speaker 1: they just put him in an ambulance. So in my mind,
- 3:08Speaker 1: I'm saying, okay, probably had to askma attack. So they're
- 3:11Speaker 1: gonna take him to the hospital. I shoot over to
- 3:13Speaker 1: the hospital. But as I'm riding to the hospital, the
- 3:17Speaker 1: tids start to flow, because after you're married to somebody
- 3:20Speaker 1: for so long, it's like a kindred spirit, you know,
- 3:24Speaker 1: so you know when something's wrong. And I said to
- 3:27Speaker 1: my girlfriend, I said, he's no longer here with us,
- 3:30Speaker 1: and she said, Pinky, don't say that. That's my nickname.
- 3:33Speaker 1: Don't say that, you know. Let's just wait till we
- 3:35Speaker 1: get to the hospital. So when I get to the hospital,
- 3:37Speaker 1: they lead me all the way around to this little
- 3:40Speaker 1: room that just had a desk and a phone. And
- 3:43Speaker 1: I said to her, I said, it's a rap, just
- 3:46Speaker 1: like that, and she said, don't say that. So now
- 3:49Speaker 1: I'm asking questions like where is he? What's going on?
- 3:52Speaker 1: They're not telling me nothing. So now I get ghetto.
- 3:57Speaker 1: I start kicking the door. I start banging, you know what.
- 4:02Speaker 1: I'm saying, like like, let me know something. You have
- 4:05Speaker 1: me in limbo. I don't know if he's dead alive,
- 4:07Speaker 1: you're working on him. What's going on? They're like, oh,
- 4:10Speaker 1: somebody's gonna talk to you. In five minutes. If them
- 4:12Speaker 1: five minutes went on for two hours. I was sitting
- 4:16Speaker 1: in that room, so I said. I said to my girlfriend,
- 4:20Speaker 1: I said, Linda, I'm going outside to smoke a cigarette.
- 4:23Speaker 1: But I really wasn't. I was going outside to go
- 4:26Speaker 1: around to the emergency exit and entrance and going through
- 4:29Speaker 1: that way since they wouldn't let me in through the
- 4:31Speaker 1: two locked doors. But as I'm walking that way, guard
- 4:35Speaker 1: must have been with somebody that day because Uncle Larry
- 4:38Speaker 1: intervened and was like, where are you going? I said,
- 4:40Speaker 1: Uncle Larry'm going to smoke a cigarette. They're not telling
- 4:43Speaker 1: me nothing. I need to know something. We turned back
- 4:46Speaker 1: around and walked back. By the time we got back
- 4:48Speaker 1: to the double doors, I see all these doctors coming
- 4:52Speaker 1: toward me. So I'm like, okay, here we go. They
- 4:56Speaker 1: come through the doors. They looked at me. There was like, oh,
- 4:58Speaker 1: the family of Eric garn So I said him right here,
- 5:01Speaker 1: I'm his wife, and they just looked at me and said, oh,
- 5:04Speaker 1: we did everything we could, but we couldn't save him. Basically,
- 5:08Speaker 1: I kind of blacked from like that moment until I
- 5:12Speaker 1: don't even know how I got home. You know, they
- 5:15Speaker 1: let me go in and see him for a few minutes.
- 5:18Speaker 1: I remember that. And then when I left, I got
- 5:21Speaker 1: home and you know, of course I was destroyed, and
- 5:25Speaker 1: my son was playing basketball and I saw one of
- 5:28Speaker 1: his friends and I said, could you do me a favor?
- 5:30Speaker 1: Can you go up the block and tell my son
- 5:33Speaker 1: I need him to come home like a sad don't
- 5:36Speaker 1: say anything, because by that time, everybody on the block
- 5:39Speaker 1: bro so I was trying to keep them from knowing
- 5:41Speaker 1: before I could tell him. So he finally comes down
- 5:45Speaker 1: the block and he's walking towards me, and I said,
- 5:49Speaker 1: come here. I call him boy because he was the
- 5:51Speaker 1: first boy after four girls. So I said boy, and
- 5:54Speaker 1: he said yes mine. I said, um, your dad went
- 5:58Speaker 1: to the hospital and make it. And he just like
- 6:03Speaker 1: his whole ora just he had just won the championship
- 6:07Speaker 1: game at that, you know, so his whole orage just changed.
- 6:10Speaker 1: And he just went in the house and I said,
- 6:12Speaker 1: you are right, and he was like yeah, but I
- 6:14Speaker 1: knew he wasn't. And then I called the rest of
- 6:17Speaker 1: my children and they all came out to Staten Island
- 6:20Speaker 1: and then we just you know, we sat there and
- 6:23Speaker 1: cried and everything for a few hours. And then I
- 6:27Speaker 1: see breaking news splash across the screen. I didn't know
- 6:31Speaker 1: they had a video at that the first time I
- 6:35Speaker 1: saw the video. What are they telling you initially? How
- 6:37Speaker 1: did they say that initially before the video that he
- 6:40Speaker 1: had a heart attack, which I knew was BS. And
- 6:43Speaker 1: what was so crazy is that he was his intentions
- 6:47Speaker 1: was to do this last run and he was in
- 6:51Speaker 1: the line for his sside. So the next day he
- 6:54Speaker 1: had a doctor's appointment to complete everything that you need
- 6:58Speaker 1: to do to get you know, SSID, you know, disability
- 7:01Speaker 1: or whatever. And it was just was the video released
- 7:06Speaker 1: that It wasn't until a couple of days later, or
- 7:08Speaker 1: was it that same day? It was the same the
- 7:10Speaker 1: same day. I only saw up to like the second
- 7:18Speaker 1: I can't breathe. And then my kids were like, no, man,
- 7:22Speaker 1: because they had seen it. But they was like, man,
- 7:25Speaker 1: you don't need to see I still haven't seen pass
- 7:28Speaker 1: Uh the I can't breathe, I haven't seen you know,
- 7:31Speaker 1: anything after that. I just can't watch it. It's like
- 7:35Speaker 1: and then every time that something happens with the police,
- 7:39Speaker 1: it's like they're using his video as an example, but
- 7:44Speaker 1: you have no compassion that I'm actually watching my husband
- 7:48Speaker 1: die over and over and over again, and it's just
- 7:53Speaker 1: it's heartbreaking. Like now I'm at least able to speak
- 7:57Speaker 1: about it without breaking down because I'm so tired of crying. Like, yeah,
- 8:03Speaker 1: but when it get but you know when it when
- 8:04Speaker 1: it happens, it just seems like everything during that day
- 8:08Speaker 1: and everything they did was wrong, from the choke in
- 8:11Speaker 1: to the paramedics to everything. It just seems like it
- 8:13Speaker 1: just The thing that's so crazy is that my husband
- 8:17Speaker 1: was a peacemaker and he was the type you know
- 8:20Speaker 1: how it was back in the day, don't don't make
- 8:22Speaker 1: no noise on this corner because you know what you're
- 8:24Speaker 1: bringing attention to, you know what I'm saying. So he
- 8:27Speaker 1: was always breaking up the fights with the drunks and
- 8:29Speaker 1: the homeless and stuff like that, and that day he
- 8:33Speaker 1: just broke up a fight. You know, he didn't make
- 8:36Speaker 1: a sale. They never saw any money being transferred, They
- 8:40Speaker 1: never saw anything. They really had no probable cause to
- 8:43Speaker 1: even say anything to it. And it was cigarettes, they said, right, cigarettes, Right?
- 8:47Speaker 1: Did you ever feel the need to speak out to
- 8:50Speaker 1: tell people who the real Eric Gona was because you know,
- 8:51Speaker 1: they're bringing his police record sale He got arrested this
- 8:53Speaker 1: many times. Yes, I've done plenty of interviews, and I've
- 8:58Speaker 1: told them all the same thing. He was a gentle giant.
- 9:01Speaker 1: You know, he was a good guy. He just he
- 9:05Speaker 1: didn't know any other way to take care of me
- 9:09Speaker 1: and six children. You know, he needed more than minimum waves,
- 9:14Speaker 1: you know, because of the way he was raised. You know,
- 9:17Speaker 1: his mom had a good job, they lived in the house.
- 9:20Speaker 1: You know, he had a very privileged life, you know. Um,
- 9:24Speaker 1: and I guess he wanted the same for his children
- 9:27Speaker 1: and knew that, you know, a regular job just wasn't
- 9:30Speaker 1: gonna do it. And the police officers weren't familiar with him.
- 9:32Speaker 1: I mean, it's the community. They didn't He wasn't a
- 9:35Speaker 1: violent Hers asked us. We'd be going to the nine
- 9:38Speaker 1: nine sense store and they behave cigarette guy, or sometimes
- 9:41Speaker 1: they would see me without him and say, hey, cigarette lady.
- 9:46Speaker 1: Exact eric was. There wasn't no need for them to
- 9:49Speaker 1: jump out the window the way they did, because none
- 9:52Speaker 1: to whatsoever. Because as you know, he's been arrested a
- 9:55Speaker 1: whole lot of times, never once for resisting arrest. You know,
- 10:00Speaker 1: when he came out that you guys got a settlement
- 10:03Speaker 1: would bother me so much. It was like they agreed
- 10:07Speaker 1: to give you a settlement, but they still didn't prosecute
- 10:10Speaker 1: any of the police officers yet. Yes, that's why we
- 10:14Speaker 1: had marching rally, because the federal government can prosecute. You
- 10:19Speaker 1: gotta remember me. They acquitted the cops with Rodney King,
- 10:23Speaker 1: and we got the federal government to come in and
- 10:26Speaker 1: those cops were convicted. Abner Louimo, justice from federal government
- 10:31Speaker 1: came in. Those cops were still in jail. So and
- 10:34Speaker 1: I know Nash actually networking. I were involved and leading
- 10:37Speaker 1: on both of them. So we never thought that the
- 10:41Speaker 1: state and Allen Grand jury was going to indict because
- 10:44Speaker 1: a DA works with the cops. You got to have
- 10:47Speaker 1: an outside entity that does not have a conflict of
- 10:50Speaker 1: interest to deal with that. So that's why we had
- 10:52Speaker 1: the big march over the weekend, and that's why we
- 10:55Speaker 1: are continuing. You know, the day this happened and the
- 10:59Speaker 1: mother of called us in Nash action. Nework. I was
- 11:02Speaker 1: in divided during the voter rights stuff. So when I
- 11:05Speaker 1: got to call Cynthia Davis, who heads out Staton Island office,
- 11:08Speaker 1: I said, we'll have Kidston for or Kevin McCall, some
- 11:12Speaker 1: of the young guys I have on staff that we're
- 11:14Speaker 1: trying to, you know, push you out there, let them handle.
- 11:17Speaker 1: She said, no, you need to see this video. Run.
- 11:19Speaker 1: I said, y'all know how to do this. I'm in
- 11:22Speaker 1: divided with the office here, and when I saw the video,
- 11:25Speaker 1: I took the Red Eye back and help them through
- 11:29Speaker 1: the funeral and all that. And fact Emerald works on staff,
- 11:32Speaker 1: not in Nash Action. They were because what people don't
- 11:35Speaker 1: realize when a policeman has a question or issue, his
- 11:40Speaker 1: union provides him with lawyers, funds, helps as kids. If
- 11:44Speaker 1: they needed all of that, they have an institution. If
- 11:48Speaker 1: you don't have an institution like Nashal Action Network, would
- 11:50Speaker 1: we do to fight an institution? What are they supposed
- 11:53Speaker 1: to do on their own? How do they deal with
- 11:55Speaker 1: legal and media and kids and all of that. So
- 11:58Speaker 1: the media tries to humanize those of us in the
- 12:01Speaker 1: movement and praise the unions. We're to counterbalance to the
- 12:05Speaker 1: unions saying you want to fight, We're rull in to
- 12:07Speaker 1: fight and we'll put our resources and we don't want
- 12:09Speaker 1: nothing out of us setting or a nothing because this
- 12:12Speaker 1: is what we do. But for the law to not
- 12:15Speaker 1: protect the civil rights, which is a federal issue of
- 12:18Speaker 1: Eric Gardner is where we are now. So those police
- 12:20Speaker 1: are not Scott free. Money is not justice. Money is
- 12:24Speaker 1: just dealing with the laws. Justice is they need to
- 12:27Speaker 1: have to be accountable for what they did. Like what
- 12:29Speaker 1: you just said toever now you said, because a lot
- 12:31Speaker 1: of people do try to discredit you, and they you know,
- 12:32Speaker 1: they like you said, you're an ambulance chasing you. You
- 12:35Speaker 1: know you're there for the money and things like that. Well,
- 12:37Speaker 1: first of all, they will tell you we've given money,
- 12:39Speaker 1: paid for the funeral. I don't want to dimeback. Nash
- 12:42Speaker 1: As never doesn't get a dimeback. And we're not ambulance chases.
- 12:44Speaker 1: We're an ambulance they called us. I've never been involved
- 12:48Speaker 1: in a case that we will not call never. And
- 12:52Speaker 1: but you have to ask yourself, why do they spend
- 12:54Speaker 1: so much time just credited any of us to come
- 12:57Speaker 1: out there because they want to keep things the same way.
- 13:00Speaker 1: Isn't it funny you've never heard a victim coming for
- 13:02Speaker 1: and said, well, real, MAO made us give and we've
- 13:05Speaker 1: got millions of dollars with you. You never heard none
- 13:08Speaker 1: of them say that. It's always your attackers and your haters.
- 13:12Speaker 1: And I can't feel bad they do it in Presente
- 13:14Speaker 1: Nite sticks if they asked Obama for his birth certificate,
- 13:17Speaker 1: they were sure, I ask me for anything. That One
- 13:19Speaker 1: of the main issues I feel like that has to
- 13:21Speaker 1: be her pelis when all this happens. Everyone has seen
- 13:23Speaker 1: the video and felt like, well, you know, something has
- 13:26Speaker 1: to happen because we see what they did was wrong.
- 13:29Speaker 1: And then they are demonizing Eric Garner and that has
- 13:31Speaker 1: to really hurt because you're like, I know him, I
- 13:33Speaker 1: know what, he didn't do anything wrong in this case.
- 13:36Speaker 1: Why are they making him out to be such a
- 13:37Speaker 1: terrible person because they have to make excuses for what
- 13:41Speaker 1: they did, you know, they have to make it seem
- 13:44Speaker 1: like he was a menace, Like yeah, but you know,
- 13:48Speaker 1: it's the prior history why he was targeted that day,
- 13:52Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, it wasn't about what
- 13:54Speaker 1: he did that day, it was what he did for
- 13:57Speaker 1: the five years leading up to that day. You know,
- 14:01Speaker 1: he caused a lot of officers to be investigated. Yab,
- 14:08Speaker 1: he had officers transferred out of the one two old.
- 14:12Speaker 1: He would always make noise. They wanted him to shut up,
- 14:16Speaker 1: they wanted him you know, they would take his money
- 14:19Speaker 1: and voucher it and then give him a hard time
- 14:21Speaker 1: giving it back, you know what I'm saying. So he
- 14:24Speaker 1: was tired of that, you know, he was tired of
- 14:26Speaker 1: them harassing him. If you notice, he said, it stops today.
- 14:30Speaker 1: Y'all are gonna leave me alone, one way or the other.
- 14:32Speaker 1: And what hurts me the most is that two days
- 14:36Speaker 1: before that, like we had just come home from a
- 14:39Speaker 1: family reunion that weekend. I have the picture in my
- 14:43Speaker 1: phone that we took the last picture of him alive,
- 14:46Speaker 1: three days before he was murdered. And he it was
- 14:52Speaker 1: like they couldn't stop him, you know, because he knew
- 14:56Speaker 1: the Lord. You know, he was one of them that
- 14:57Speaker 1: were going jail and sitting Lord library and earned every
- 15:00Speaker 1: little you know, every little detail. So he knew that
- 15:04Speaker 1: New York State Lord um allows a person to have
- 15:09Speaker 1: two cartons on your person. You're allowed to have three
- 15:14Speaker 1: cartons in your house, five up to five in your house.
- 15:18Speaker 1: So the reason he had the three packs could have
- 15:21Speaker 1: been able I smoke a lot. He could have said,
- 15:23Speaker 1: I bought these for my wife. You know, these are
- 15:24Speaker 1: my wife's cigarettes. They didn't see him make a sale.
- 15:28Speaker 1: They just know the history, and they were so angry
- 15:31Speaker 1: that he would pay the fine and get right back
- 15:33Speaker 1: out there, or he would do a little bit of time,
- 15:36Speaker 1: a couple of days and get right back out there.
- 15:38Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But see opposition, and I've
- 15:41Speaker 1: said this in a fan from day one. If he
- 15:43Speaker 1: was dead wrong, yeah, you gotta look at we saw
- 15:47Speaker 1: the video. It is against police procedure to use a chokehold,
- 15:52Speaker 1: and he was dead wrong. The policeman used something against them.
- 15:56Speaker 1: If he was dead wrong, he said eleven times, I
- 16:00Speaker 1: can't breathe, So you don't have the right to keep
- 16:02Speaker 1: using a chokehold wrong. Let a man beg for his
- 16:07Speaker 1: life and you still do it and then leave him
- 16:08Speaker 1: laying there in the gutter. So as I've always felt
- 16:12Speaker 1: from day one with this that we don't have to
- 16:15Speaker 1: prove anything about him because you don't sell as a
- 16:18Speaker 1: guy today if he was selling cigarettes, if he was
- 16:21Speaker 1: wrong and all that, you sentenced him to death, or
- 16:24Speaker 1: you use something that's illegal to chokehold him, you let
- 16:27Speaker 1: him lay there. I mean, what are we talking about?
- 16:30Speaker 1: And he that is exactly why we questioned the grand jury.
- 16:33Speaker 1: What he just said, we saw the tape, Well what
- 16:36Speaker 1: did they see to say? The cop did nothing and
- 16:38Speaker 1: he saw the same tape we did. What happened in
- 16:41Speaker 1: the grand jury. Another thing that wanted to know. I
- 16:43Speaker 1: wanted to know, what don't you see that I see?
- 16:46Speaker 1: Because the world. Another thing that concerns me is the
- 16:51Speaker 1: young man that filmed everything Order Right Order. Now he's
- 16:55Speaker 1: he's upset and he's been thrown in jail and targeted
- 16:57Speaker 1: and had all these charges brought against him. That means
- 17:01Speaker 1: for somebody to fish two people, though it's not it was,
- 17:04Speaker 1: it was two people. I appreciate everything that Ramsey Order
- 17:08Speaker 1: has done, but with him being in the in the life,
- 17:12Speaker 1: you know, in the spotlight, as I should say, like me,
- 17:16Speaker 1: I can't go out and cut somebody out and slap
- 17:19Speaker 1: somebody because I'll be splashed across the news screen tomorrow.
- 17:23Speaker 1: So he should be more mindful of what he's doing,
- 17:26Speaker 1: knowing that he's being watched, but he should not be harassed.
- 17:30Speaker 1: The cash twenty two for us in term about Nash
- 17:34Speaker 1: Action Network is that if I helped him as I'm
- 17:37Speaker 1: doing the Family, they will then say that I'm trying
- 17:40Speaker 1: to tample with a witness. So I could not come
- 17:43Speaker 1: to him. I would love to do a lot for him,
- 17:45Speaker 1: but then they do last thing they want the first
- 17:47Speaker 1: thing they want. Old Red Mall was giving him something.
- 17:51Speaker 1: That's why he testified a certain way. So we had
- 17:53Speaker 1: to keep our distance there to protect the case, which
- 17:56Speaker 1: is still pending with the federal Justice the party still
- 17:59Speaker 1: see those police officers. I don't live on stat now
- 18:02Speaker 1: in anymore. Um yeah, they moved me like almost immediately,
- 18:05Speaker 1: like two weeks after. I couldn't stay there on Yeah, okay,
- 18:10Speaker 1: the city moved me, and um I moved like two weeks,
- 18:14Speaker 1: like two weeks. I was going one because I'm three
- 18:17Speaker 1: blocks away from the precinct. My kids have asthma, so
- 18:19Speaker 1: if anything happens, you call nine one one. Those would
- 18:23Speaker 1: be the officers that would come to my rescue. I
- 18:26Speaker 1: was just telling um the young man out front. Um, yeah,
- 18:30Speaker 1: that day before yesterday, I was one hundred and twenty
- 18:33Speaker 1: fifth Street, and you know, the traffic was really slow,
- 18:36Speaker 1: and we passed by these two female African American officers
- 18:40Speaker 1: and they actually reached in the passenger side of the
- 18:44Speaker 1: car and said to me, do you have your seatboat on?
- 18:48Speaker 1: I had my seatboat on, I just had it under
- 18:50Speaker 1: instead of across my chest. But what gives you the
- 18:54Speaker 1: right to reach in the car, and you know, and
- 18:57Speaker 1: then she sees my shirt because I had my husband
- 18:59Speaker 1: shirt on, you know, because the one year I just passed,
- 19:02Speaker 1: so I've been wearing the shirt. And she goes, oh, well,
- 19:06Speaker 1: all officers aren't bad. And I looked at her and
- 19:08Speaker 1: I said, well, I thought you were gonna drag me
- 19:09Speaker 1: out the corn and choke me like female. And and
- 19:18Speaker 1: don't forget, it was two of the three cops that
- 19:20Speaker 1: killed Sean Bell were black, So I mean it's not
- 19:23Speaker 1: that we deal with only white cops. We deal with
- 19:25Speaker 1: police if they wrong, well one of the things. And
- 19:28Speaker 1: that's why I'm so happy that that, uh, we have
- 19:32Speaker 1: her on staff, working without other young people because a
- 19:35Speaker 1: lot of young people that want to get involved don't
- 19:38Speaker 1: know what to do. We just started a new site
- 19:40Speaker 1: on National Action Network dot net that for just the
- 19:42Speaker 1: youth called shift Daily for people that can write and
- 19:46Speaker 1: people that want to express themselves. They want to speak
- 19:48Speaker 1: for themselves because you got guys out there like me
- 19:51Speaker 1: that's been out there for years. But let these young
- 19:53Speaker 1: people speak for themselves. So we started the site so
- 19:56Speaker 1: they can express themselves tougher thanselves and lead their generation,
- 20:00Speaker 1: so that people that listen to you, which you understand
- 20:03Speaker 1: everybody on it can go to Nashal Action Network dot
- 20:07Speaker 1: net and and say I can write go to our
- 20:10Speaker 1: shift daily and the young folk running, and that she's
- 20:14Speaker 1: committed her life, her sister brothers to fight for justice
- 20:17Speaker 1: because the continuation of the struggle is what's important because
- 20:21Speaker 1: it's not getting better. You have you seen it like
- 20:23Speaker 1: this before? I mean you know what I mean? You
- 20:27Speaker 1: see No, I wouldn't come from but I can't out
- 20:34Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties. I've seen it as bad. The
- 20:37Speaker 1: difference is we didn't have technology, so now everybody sees
- 20:41Speaker 1: it and you didn't you you didn't have the cell
- 20:44Speaker 1: phones and you had a video. But I've seen it
- 20:47Speaker 1: bad and we won by continuing the rally and my
- 20:50Speaker 1: people with the marching get Governor Cuoma wouldn't have had
- 20:53Speaker 1: a special prosecutor now if there was not the God movement.
- 20:56Speaker 1: The cameras on police now these are incremental, but it's
- 21:00Speaker 1: a step towards something. We've got to keep going. But
- 21:03Speaker 1: I've seen it bad. But we put out new the
- 21:06Speaker 1: Women's Cops and jil because we stayed on it. There
- 21:08Speaker 1: cannot be a movement without a goal, and it cannot
- 21:11Speaker 1: be a movement without people being committed for the long haul.
- 21:14Speaker 1: We got to stay on this. If they can choke
- 21:16Speaker 1: a man of death on taping, beg for his life,
- 21:18Speaker 1: and walk away, then what are we saying? Ain't none
- 21:21Speaker 1: of us what we claim we are? Now? Emerald? Now,
- 21:23Speaker 1: like he said, social media is so big? How are
- 21:26Speaker 1: you coping and dealing with it? Because, I mean you
- 21:27Speaker 1: might see memes today is people say some mean things
- 21:30Speaker 1: sometimes on the social media stuff. I mean, it's kind
- 21:32Speaker 1: of hard when people tag you to that stuff. So
- 21:35Speaker 1: you know, I see it constantly. I'm nosy, So I
- 21:37Speaker 1: read the comments. I read you know what people say.
- 21:40Speaker 1: I read the instagram on the Twitter, I read it.
- 21:43Speaker 1: I don't respond because you know, the best response is
- 21:45Speaker 1: no response. My job is to make sure that people
- 21:48Speaker 1: know who my father was as a person, you know,
- 21:50Speaker 1: somebody by the type of children they raised. So I
- 21:53Speaker 1: know my man's looking at me because you know, I
- 21:55Speaker 1: tell her all the time. My mind, your social media
- 21:57Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, want to jump through the yes, you know,
- 22:04Speaker 1: you know it's important for people to know. It's funny
- 22:07Speaker 1: when I did MSNBC UM with Rev you know, I
- 22:11Speaker 1: don't wear my head. I don't wear makeup and stuff
- 22:18Speaker 1: like that. So my daughter goes, Ma, are you going
- 22:19Speaker 1: to ms see let them do your makeup? Let them
- 22:22Speaker 1: do Yeah. So I'm like, all right, so you don't
- 22:24Speaker 1: have the long flowing curls and everything. So the first
- 22:27Speaker 1: mean comment that I saw was wow, she looked really
- 22:31Speaker 1: homely when we first saw her. But now she has
- 22:35Speaker 1: this long, luxurious weave. And I just laugh because like,
- 22:38Speaker 1: I'm my mother's Jewish and my dad's Native American. My
- 22:41Speaker 1: heads down my back. Naturally, I do not have a weave.
- 22:44Speaker 1: But that's the first thing that people think when they
- 22:46Speaker 1: see a black girl with long hairs. Gotta be a weave,
- 22:50Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I don't feel bad. Yeah he talks
- 22:57Speaker 1: about my head. But yeah, so you know, my kids
- 23:03Speaker 1: always tell me, Mom, don't respond. But I can't sit
- 23:06Speaker 1: there and not say nothing. But like the Rev said,
- 23:09Speaker 1: the revl we're saying. You know, I always say I
- 23:11Speaker 1: have two personalities. I'm estare like right now, I'm or.
- 23:14Speaker 1: But you can catch pinky pinky, you know, you catch
- 23:18Speaker 1: any given time. So the other day Rev. Collor got
- 23:21Speaker 1: a little shooking up. So when everybody cool cooled if
- 23:24Speaker 1: he looked at me said they don't bring the pinky
- 23:26Speaker 1: up and let me ask you something. I'm trying to
- 23:35Speaker 1: be reving out ms BC dash actually that I go
- 23:39Speaker 1: back to brows. But with you and me, you gotta
- 23:43Speaker 1: come on there and we can talk about let me
- 23:47Speaker 1: ask you guys something. Now, I get this a lot.
- 23:49Speaker 1: People would tweet me and email me and say they've
- 23:52Speaker 1: separated some injustice, this happened. How do I get that
- 23:55Speaker 1: attention to how do I get that media attention? Sixty
- 24:00Speaker 1: or something is there on? Emerald will pick up the
- 24:02Speaker 1: phone and transfer us to the crisis man, right, because
- 24:05Speaker 1: people always say this happened to me, I need to
- 24:07Speaker 1: bring or this happened to my friend and I need
- 24:09Speaker 1: That's why they call that. That's why you have organizations
- 24:12Speaker 1: that do that, that know how to deal with media,
- 24:15Speaker 1: that vet these things out. That's what we do and
- 24:17Speaker 1: we know we're gonna get flat for it. I mean,
- 24:19Speaker 1: you never gonna be popular. But I grew up in
- 24:22Speaker 1: the movement and I was trained by guys that do
- 24:25Speaker 1: that that have now I've been able to build nash
- 24:29Speaker 1: actually nowhere. That's how you do that. There's a lot
- 24:31Speaker 1: of injustices. That's why we want people to be able
- 24:33Speaker 1: to go to the site. And there's a lot of
- 24:35Speaker 1: young people out there that want to express themselves, and
- 24:38Speaker 1: that's why we're pushing this. And that's why we like
- 24:40Speaker 1: to have people like Emerald and them who have lived it,
- 24:43Speaker 1: because they can feel that they understand it because they've
- 24:45Speaker 1: lived this. Not the money, the five point nine million dollars.
- 24:49Speaker 1: Can you ever really enjoy that money? I'm gonna keep
- 24:52Speaker 1: it a hunted Yeah, I could enjoy it. I'd rather
- 24:55Speaker 1: have had it and enjoyed it with him. You would
- 24:58Speaker 1: give it all up to bring him. I would give
- 25:00Speaker 1: it up in a heartbeat to have my husband back.
- 25:02Speaker 1: We were married twenty eight years and I'm not gonna
- 25:05Speaker 1: say it was perfect by a long shot. But he
- 25:08Speaker 1: was perfect for me and I was perfect for him.
- 25:10Speaker 1: There you go, well made you accept the money after
- 25:12Speaker 1: turning it down initially. That's another misconception. I never I
- 25:16Speaker 1: never knew nothing about the money I was. I was
- 25:18Speaker 1: in and PA said, so you turned down. I'm like,
- 25:23Speaker 1: turned down? What you know? I never turned it down.
- 25:26Speaker 1: I never even heard about it. When I came back
- 25:29Speaker 1: it was five point nine Was that his mother that
- 25:31Speaker 1: that had something to do with I don't even speak
- 25:35Speaker 1: on it. I can't speak on that. That's you know,
- 25:37Speaker 1: a whole other issue. I can't even speak on that.
- 25:40Speaker 1: But um, as far as I'm concerned, I never refused it.
- 25:44Speaker 1: My thing was, it wasn't about It's not about the
- 25:46Speaker 1: money for me, It's about getting justice. Like you know,
- 25:49Speaker 1: everybody said, oh, you should have held out for more money. No,
- 25:53Speaker 1: I want to get the money off the table. I
- 25:55Speaker 1: want to let them know that my focus is getting justice. Yes,
- 26:00Speaker 1: it's a little money, yeah, to make my life a
- 26:01Speaker 1: little easier, to make my kid's life easier, you know
- 26:04Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But it was easy enough with me
- 26:07Speaker 1: and my husband raising my six children and my three
- 26:11Speaker 1: grandchildren that now I have to answer questions, where's pop, pop?
- 26:16Speaker 1: You know, where's grandpa? My granddaughter is three, And you know,
- 26:21Speaker 1: it's cute when she says no justice, no peace, and
- 26:24Speaker 1: she sees raving, she says justice, Grandma, justice because she
- 26:28Speaker 1: calls him justice. So you know, it's cute. But it's
- 26:32Speaker 1: also a shame that a three year old knows throw
- 26:36Speaker 1: your hands up, don't shoot, hold your hands up, don't shoot.
- 26:39Speaker 1: Rest in peace, Grandpa, you know, no, it's scared. It's scared.
- 26:42Speaker 1: Like you know, I have eleven year old son, and
- 26:44Speaker 1: when he's seen the video, I mean, it's good and
- 26:46Speaker 1: it's bad. It's good because he gets to see what
- 26:49Speaker 1: the world is really like. You know, he's not living
- 26:51Speaker 1: in this shell where nothing can happen. But it's sad
- 26:54Speaker 1: because it makes him fearful of police officers. It makes
- 26:57Speaker 1: him fearful to go out. But I was gonna ask you,
- 26:59Speaker 1: is now, do you have family members coming out the woodwork,
- 27:02Speaker 1: because they get to set right now, I'm sending my
- 27:06Speaker 1: lawyer right now. Mind you, my husband had there's four boys, okay,
- 27:14Speaker 1: three of them, unfortunately are now gone. You know, his
- 27:17Speaker 1: brother was killed eighteen years ago up state. Another brother
- 27:21Speaker 1: was killed in Newark last October, well October before last.
- 27:27Speaker 1: And my lawyer goes on he saw I said, yeah,
- 27:30Speaker 1: he said, U does Rick have a brother named such
- 27:34Speaker 1: and such? And I'm like yeah, He's like, well he's
- 27:38Speaker 1: I said, but he's locked up. Like you know, he's
- 27:40Speaker 1: been locked up in and out all our marriage. I've
- 27:43Speaker 1: never I've seen him maybe three times. He had the
- 27:45Speaker 1: nerve to call my lawyer, call him and say that
- 27:50Speaker 1: he wanted to be included on the wrongful death of
- 27:52Speaker 1: his brother Eric Gardner, and I laughed, you know, because
- 27:57Speaker 1: I put it on social media the other day. If
- 27:59Speaker 1: you was on my bus at the beginning of this journey,
- 28:02Speaker 1: you will not be on my bus at the end.
- 28:04Speaker 1: This bus is expressed. It don't make no stop, it
- 28:07Speaker 1: don't accept transfers, none of that. So if you wasn't
- 28:10Speaker 1: with me from July seventeenth till now, see you when
- 28:15Speaker 1: I see you, because now I'm not thinking, not thinking.
- 28:21Speaker 1: Now I work at NAN, so people call and they'll say, oh,
- 28:23Speaker 1: you know because I use an aliens at NAN, so
- 28:26Speaker 1: they don't Garner. So I'll be like, you know, hey,
- 28:29Speaker 1: you know, They're like, so, how do we get in
- 28:30Speaker 1: contact with the Gardner families? I say, what is you know?
- 28:32Speaker 1: What is the nature of your call? Oh, because I'm
- 28:34Speaker 1: a cousin and I need to so who are you?
- 28:37Speaker 1: How are you related? Oh? I'm so and Soul's brothers.
- 28:39Speaker 1: Because I said, well, i'm his daughters and I've never
- 28:41Speaker 1: met you a day in my life. Yes, oh what,
- 28:43Speaker 1: I'm your aunt because of this, this, that and the other,
- 28:45Speaker 1: I said, well, I don't know you. What about the
- 28:48Speaker 1: one year old daughter. They said out there that DNA
- 28:51Speaker 1: is confirmed dnass his daughter. But like I said from
- 28:56Speaker 1: the beginning, my husband denied it. Okay, and I will
- 29:00Speaker 1: believe my husband over a hood rat any day. Okay,
- 29:04Speaker 1: so my Lloyd, and again we are dealing with ordinary
- 29:15Speaker 1: regular people who don't ask to be victims, and people
- 29:18Speaker 1: can make judgments all they want. This man should not
- 29:21Speaker 1: be dead. They should not be at remember. Now, let
- 29:25Speaker 1: me let me just ask you a question, Donald Trump.
- 29:29Speaker 1: This man throws shots, books, kettle bar kettle bells, anything
- 29:34Speaker 1: he could possibly throw at you. He throws at you.
- 29:36Speaker 1: What did you do to Donald Trump? Well, you know,
- 29:40Speaker 1: years ago Donald Trump and I clashed over the Central
- 29:45Speaker 1: Park Jogga kids when they arrested and charged those young guys.
- 29:51Speaker 1: One of the grandmothers of one of the kids that
- 29:54Speaker 1: they had to let go, Briscoe was his name, had
- 29:57Speaker 1: called us and we went in and I don't know,
- 30:00Speaker 1: Trump was the one that bought the full page ads
- 30:03Speaker 1: calling the wolf packs, and we marched on him and
- 30:06Speaker 1: I don't think he ever got over that. Since then,
- 30:08Speaker 1: we've been all right, not all right. I see him
- 30:10Speaker 1: at Tyson fights. I've been to his office back and forth,
- 30:13Speaker 1: but every time he get a shot, he would. Since
- 30:15Speaker 1: he's been talking about President Obama, I've been like all
- 30:19Speaker 1: in on my TV show and Nan and all of that.
- 30:22Speaker 1: So he's bad thinskin. He's like a bully. He cannot
- 30:27Speaker 1: take a punch. You can. He can talk about everybody,
- 30:29Speaker 1: but when you attack him, he just loses it. You
- 30:32Speaker 1: see what he's doing other Republicans. He got up, he
- 30:34Speaker 1: gave out one of his cell phone, right, So yeah,
- 30:37Speaker 1: that he's thinkin and me knowing that, I just keep
- 30:41Speaker 1: going at him because I you know, I learned as
- 30:44Speaker 1: a kid, if you keep stroking a bully, he's gonna
- 30:47Speaker 1: beat himself. You don't even have to fight. And that's
- 30:49Speaker 1: what's happening with Johnny Love. What you said, I thought
- 30:52Speaker 1: you said. You said he's an apollo acting Lincoln Center. Yeah, tonight.
- 30:58Speaker 1: James Brown is like my father. And James Brown told
- 31:01Speaker 1: me the first time I went to Vegas with him,
- 31:03Speaker 1: I was about nineteen to twenty. He said, it's a
- 31:05Speaker 1: difference between a lounge jack and somebody played the main room.
- 31:08Speaker 1: I said, what you mean? He said, in the lounge,
- 31:10Speaker 1: you got to compete with the you know, people drinking
- 31:13Speaker 1: the Bob, the Bob maids, the gambling. He said, in
- 31:17Speaker 1: the main room, people are sitting there eating dinner. They
- 31:20Speaker 1: bring their wives, So you gotta have choreography, rehearsed, show polished.
- 31:26Speaker 1: He said, you do whatever you gotta do an the
- 31:28Speaker 1: lounge to get attention. You're competing with so much other stuff.
- 31:31Speaker 1: He said, Revin, when you do your lounge jack to
- 31:33Speaker 1: get to the main room, he said, do what you
- 31:35Speaker 1: gotta do. But when you're in the main stage, you
- 31:38Speaker 1: got to really be good. And I think Donald Trump
- 31:41Speaker 1: doesn't understand. You run for president. Now, you're not cutting
- 31:44Speaker 1: a real estate deal on the West Side. He's bringing
- 31:47Speaker 1: an unpolished act to send the stage. Run for president.
- 31:51Speaker 1: When I ran for president, I had to talk policy.
- 31:54Speaker 1: What was I gonna do about the one I rat?
- 31:55Speaker 1: What was I gonna do about healthcare? He is up
- 31:57Speaker 1: there talking about other people take a shore. Would you
- 32:00Speaker 1: be run for president? Attacking me? It shows that you
- 32:03Speaker 1: don't know what you are dealing with, which is why
- 32:05Speaker 1: the same pole that says he's number one to twenty
- 32:08Speaker 1: four percent, sixty two percent of those people said, but
- 32:10Speaker 1: I don't know if I can vote him for president
- 32:12Speaker 1: because they can't imagine him really running the free world.
- 32:16Speaker 1: Hen he's ben attained, but we don't want him to
- 32:18Speaker 1: run for president. But he ain't saying what I wanted
- 32:20Speaker 1: to say, getting it off a chest. But I really
- 32:22Speaker 1: don't want him in charge. Yeah, because that makes me nervous.
- 32:24Speaker 1: He see many people that are for him. I'm like
- 32:26Speaker 1: that he's dig down. In that poll, sixty two percent
- 32:30Speaker 1: said they wouldn't vote for him for president. But the
- 32:32Speaker 1: good news is he's distracting from the other guys. So
- 32:36Speaker 1: so I mean, he's just he has destroyed them. The
- 32:40Speaker 1: other problem he's got is I don't know how he's
- 32:42Speaker 1: come back and how he comes back in the business.
- 32:44Speaker 1: He's lost, what I say, media context. Soon he's not
- 32:47Speaker 1: gonna be able to keep his name up on building.
- 32:49Speaker 1: He's killing his own brand rights. I like that he's
- 32:52Speaker 1: like a reality TV star who's trying to be on
- 32:54Speaker 1: a sitcom. Now, all these dudes who funny on Instagram,
- 32:57Speaker 1: when you put them on things do a real fandom show,
- 32:59Speaker 1: they can't make every I love that. I love that.
- 33:08Speaker 1: I'm gonna use that. I'm gonna be like a Baptist preacher.
- 33:12Speaker 1: I give you credit the first time, second time you
- 33:17Speaker 1: also said to you, said that Donald Trump is wasting
- 33:19Speaker 1: people's time. But he said, you said, when you ran
- 33:21Speaker 1: for president, you knew he wasn't gonna win, but you
- 33:23Speaker 1: wanted to further. Can you you run for two reasons,
- 33:26Speaker 1: to win or for a cause. I wanted to make
- 33:29Speaker 1: sure that things like criminal justice, things like why were
- 33:32Speaker 1: y'all cutting? Things like summer jobs and youth programmed things
- 33:36Speaker 1: that a president needs to deal with. On the other
- 33:38Speaker 1: side of America was in those debates, and I think
- 33:41Speaker 1: what shocked them is you gotta remember I ran against
- 33:44Speaker 1: John Kerry, who was now the Secretary of State. I
- 33:46Speaker 1: ran against Lieberman, I ran against the governor a flu
- 33:50Speaker 1: People never thought I'd get on that stage in debate
- 33:52Speaker 1: and keep up with them, and in many cases when
- 33:54Speaker 1: the debate, but I knew if the cause would be
- 33:57Speaker 1: hurt if I got up there embarrassed everybody. And Donald Trump,
- 34:02Speaker 1: rather than rise to the occasion, has lowered the standard.
- 34:05Speaker 1: And I think that if you sincere about the cause,
- 34:08Speaker 1: you understand that you've got to do what you got
- 34:11Speaker 1: to do, even if it makes me uncomfortable. I liked
- 34:13Speaker 1: acting the way I acted, but if I'm gonna be
- 34:16Speaker 1: about the cause if I'm gonna help the Gardeners, I
- 34:18Speaker 1: got to be able to present their case in a
- 34:20Speaker 1: way that can get results, not just air my anger. Now,
- 34:26Speaker 1: first debate starts in August. I this case Justice Department.
- 34:31Speaker 1: We are we marched on Saturday. We are in front
- 34:35Speaker 1: of the Justice Department asking them to prosecute like they
- 34:38Speaker 1: did in the Louima case, in the Rodney King case.
- 34:41Speaker 1: And we're continuing to ask for a federal special prosecute
- 34:44Speaker 1: to nationally as a new law. And what can the
- 34:46Speaker 1: average person do to make sure this persecution happened. The
- 34:48Speaker 1: average person can go to nashal Actual Network dot net
- 34:52Speaker 1: there with our petitions, come to the rallies. The Garden
- 34:55Speaker 1: family has been to every Saturday one hundred forty fifth
- 34:57Speaker 1: and Lennox at nine o'clock. And we're just gonna keep
- 34:59Speaker 1: rally and we're gonna keep the pressure on. Why because
- 35:02Speaker 1: we've done it before. When people talk about I got
- 35:04Speaker 1: a different way, tell them show me where it's got results.
- 35:07Speaker 1: I can show you where we helped that police, because
- 35:09Speaker 1: I'm sure they don't need to network. No. Well, I
- 35:14Speaker 1: didn't go to Nashally actually network dot net for that,
- 35:16Speaker 1: but the Foundation that Emeralds started for the family and
- 35:19Speaker 1: their work. Let us do that. Well, we have a foundation.
- 35:23Speaker 1: We're up and running. We'll have our five on one
- 35:25Speaker 1: C three within I think two weeks um. So the
- 35:29Speaker 1: foundation is basically focusing on scholarship for young people because
- 35:33Speaker 1: my brother got a scholarship, but his scholarship didn't cover food,
- 35:35Speaker 1: and didn't cover transportation to come back home, and it
- 35:38Speaker 1: didn't cover clothes six six, so you know, he was fifteen,
- 35:42Speaker 1: got big feet. Oh he's sixty eight and he got
- 35:44Speaker 1: big feet. So you know, there's a lot of other
- 35:47Speaker 1: young kids out there that need help. I'm a single parent,
- 35:49Speaker 1: so of course I'm gonna help the single mothers out there.
- 35:51Speaker 1: You know, different type of programs. I did mothering programs,
- 35:54Speaker 1: you know, while I was pregnant with my daughter and
- 35:56Speaker 1: after my daughter, so maybe I could, um you know
- 35:58Speaker 1: partner with them. Is called the Nurse Family Partnership. And
- 36:00Speaker 1: I just want to help the community because we are
- 36:02Speaker 1: the next leaders of the free world, like we're we're
- 36:05Speaker 1: gonna My daughter is three and she's gonna grow up.
- 36:08Speaker 1: She's gonna see what's going on. She's gonna be afraid
- 36:10Speaker 1: of the police. You know, my cousins. They're like, you know,
- 36:13Speaker 1: they're young, so I want to teach them that not
- 36:15Speaker 1: all police are bad, but it's certain things that you
- 36:17Speaker 1: do and that you don't do. You know, sometimes they
- 36:19Speaker 1: ask why I gotta do this? So why I got
- 36:21Speaker 1: to do that? But I'm gonna tell you why you
- 36:23Speaker 1: have to do it, Why you have to pull your
- 36:24Speaker 1: pants up, why you have to take your hat off
- 36:26Speaker 1: when you walk into a building. You know, little things
- 36:28Speaker 1: like that that little kids need to know growing up,
- 36:31Speaker 1: and stuff that my father taught me is what I
- 36:32Speaker 1: want to bring to the foundation. Don't forget about. I mean,
- 36:35Speaker 1: you know I got you, but you know your own
- 36:40Speaker 1: people don't like people, yeah, you know, but you know
- 36:51Speaker 1: my moms who think they down You know, I'm gonna
- 36:53Speaker 1: help out. Like I tell people, you know, it starts
- 36:56Speaker 1: at home. You know what I'm saying. It starts at
- 36:58Speaker 1: home when your child is too and you know that's
- 37:00Speaker 1: the no eight You stopped them from saying no the
- 37:03Speaker 1: first time, and then you don't have to worry about
- 37:05Speaker 1: them saying it for the rest of their life. My
- 37:07Speaker 1: kids know when I call their name, they answer me yes.
- 37:11Speaker 1: Don't hard know what you know what I'm saying it's
- 37:13Speaker 1: a certain level of respect. And look, now, you know
- 37:16Speaker 1: I used to say, oh wait till your father get home.
- 37:19Speaker 1: I don't have that option anymore. So now it's me
- 37:22Speaker 1: raising two boys, one fifteen, one twenty. He thinks he's
- 37:26Speaker 1: grown the fifteen year old thing. You know this, six
- 37:29Speaker 1: six and six eight. So I'm looking at them and
- 37:32Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not gonna chase you. I'm not gonna
- 37:33Speaker 1: do nothing. I wait to you go to sleep and
- 37:35Speaker 1: get a hammer and bush you. And yet when we
- 37:41Speaker 1: moved from stating allen to man, I cannot find my hammers.
- 37:45Speaker 1: They hit them. I have one on top of the frigerator,
- 37:48Speaker 1: one by the couch, and one by the bed. Okay,
- 37:51Speaker 1: and they hit all three of them. I have no
- 37:53Speaker 1: hammers in my house right now. You're going to invest
- 37:56Speaker 1: some of that money, right, we don't want to see
- 37:57Speaker 1: y'all two years from now and year y'all and blew
- 37:59Speaker 1: all the money. Well, I'm not. I I like to shop,
- 38:03Speaker 1: So my biggest thing would be shopping. You know, I
- 38:10Speaker 1: am the CFO CEO everything of the foundation. She's just
- 38:13Speaker 1: gonna go and talk to people. That's gonna be her. No,
- 38:16Speaker 1: he's not gonna be in control, right, you know, it
- 38:21Speaker 1: would be good whence people get these settlements, though, to
- 38:23Speaker 1: have financial advices. People calling me want to be my
- 38:29Speaker 1: financial I'm like, how can you advise me on something
- 38:35Speaker 1: that you have not done? You know what I'm saying,
- 38:38Speaker 1: Like how you can sell me out to spend one
- 38:39Speaker 1: hundred thousand when you ain't never seen one hundred thousand, right,
- 38:42Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So my thing is I
- 38:45Speaker 1: just I just want to be comfortable, you know, and
- 38:48Speaker 1: be able because I'm gonna be alone for the rest
- 38:49Speaker 1: of my life. I'm forty eight and I'm looking I
- 38:53Speaker 1: never knew the difference between being alone and being lonely,
- 38:57Speaker 1: and now I do you know? Now? You know at
- 39:00Speaker 1: one of the question you vern now ten Minister facunt
- 39:05Speaker 1: twenty anniversary. Our organization has been to the meetings and
- 39:12Speaker 1: I spoke at the first one and the tenth one,
- 39:15Speaker 1: and I'm supposed to be in Cuba that weekend. You know,
- 39:17Speaker 1: We've had a long standing trip, but we're trying to
- 39:19Speaker 1: work it out. But we definitely support it. We support
- 39:22Speaker 1: the forty forty day marches in ACP. We all anything
- 39:28Speaker 1: that's about justice we support, and they support us. Do
- 39:31Speaker 1: you think we need a voice in the presidential race?
- 39:32Speaker 1: This hit like how you say that somebody just to
- 39:34Speaker 1: come in and speak about the issues that we think
- 39:36Speaker 1: we need a voice and and or we need to
- 39:39Speaker 1: put the pressure on those running for president. What people
- 39:41Speaker 1: don't understand is that we are about a year and
- 39:44Speaker 1: a half away from life without President Obama and a
- 39:48Speaker 1: lot of us may wanted to see him to do more,
- 39:50Speaker 1: but he certainly turned it around where they started dealing
- 39:53Speaker 1: with some of our stuff. We don't know what's gonna
- 39:55Speaker 1: happen after him. The next president put another right wing
- 39:59Speaker 1: on the Supreme Court. We could lose voting rates, we
- 40:02Speaker 1: could lose the healthcare, all of this stuff. So we've
- 40:05Speaker 1: got to really press now, which is why a lot
- 40:08Speaker 1: of us are on the ground organizing for real. And
- 40:10Speaker 1: can I say one thing all the guys like like,
- 40:14Speaker 1: you know, I got so much support after my husband passed,
- 40:17Speaker 1: you know. And I see all the guys you know
- 40:20Speaker 1: that I knew. You know that's on the block, you know,
- 40:23Speaker 1: And I tell them, even though you're on the block,
- 40:26Speaker 1: vote you know what I'm saying. Your vote is important
- 40:29Speaker 1: and if enough for you vote, maybe Dan Donovan wouldn't
- 40:32Speaker 1: be a congressman of stat Allen right. Now, you know
- 40:35Speaker 1: if they just come out and vote, it takes five
- 40:38Speaker 1: minutes to just go put your vote in, get your ID,
- 40:41Speaker 1: go put your vote in and help us move along.
- 40:45Speaker 1: Because we're being killed and they think it's okay to
- 40:48Speaker 1: pay us. Give them some money, they'll shut up. I'm
- 40:51Speaker 1: not gonna shut up. I don't care how much money
- 40:53Speaker 1: I get. I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep going, running
- 40:56Speaker 1: my mouth until I getting running no more, until there's
- 40:59Speaker 1: justice for me. Trey Von Martin, Ramali Graham, Mike Brown,
- 41:03Speaker 1: all these young guys that were taken unarmed and not
- 41:08Speaker 1: a menace. Well, thank you Isa having me. I really
- 41:14Speaker 1: enjoy guys man alright, club, good morning