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Speaker 1: The Large Nerdron Collider Podcast is a production of My
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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hi everyone, welcome to the Large Nerdron Collider
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Speaker 1: podcast podcast. That's all about the geeky things happening in
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Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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Speaker 1: about them. I'm aerial casting and with me as always
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Speaker 1: is self aware. Jonathan Strickland, Where am I? And who
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Speaker 1: am I? Now? I was trying to build you up,
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Speaker 1: my friend, I hear you, but you're on the internet.
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Speaker 1: You're recording a podcast. Yeah, why do you build me up?
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Speaker 1: Butter cut only for me to tear me down. I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna reverse this whole thing. I'm gonna reverse this whole
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Speaker 1: thing because I have a question for you now, Ariel.
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Speaker 1: My question for you this week is, uh that you
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Speaker 1: know we know that you pursue various acting gigs. You've
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Speaker 1: pursued acting gigs on all forms of media, not just
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Speaker 1: the stage, but also on the videos and the films
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Speaker 1: and the TVs. And I was wondering if you could
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Speaker 1: share with us perhaps one of your positive audition experiences
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Speaker 1: and what made it a good one. Sure, so I
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Speaker 1: really want to give a film example, but I can't. Generally,
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Speaker 1: for me, a positive positive audition experience is one where
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Speaker 1: like I just go in and I'm able to I've
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Speaker 1: prepped and I've done my work, and then I'm just
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Speaker 1: able to let go and enjoy it and just whatever
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Speaker 1: will be will be um which I found letting go
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Speaker 1: is much easier in film than it was on stage.
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Speaker 1: But I think my best audition experience that I can
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Speaker 1: talk about is was for How to Succeed in Business
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Speaker 1: without really trying. It was a a community theater play
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Speaker 1: I did. I auditioned for Heavy LaRue. I went in
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Speaker 1: with my generic like Audrey slash, Harley Quinn slash makes
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Speaker 1: my husband want to peel his ears off, like New
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Speaker 1: York Jersey Ish accent, and just had fun, Like I
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Speaker 1: just owned it. I just I didn't even get like
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Speaker 1: I cared, but I didn't worry about it, and it
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Speaker 1: was so easy and I left feeling amazing and I
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Speaker 1: got a call back and then I got the role,
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Speaker 1: and just like the entire process was because I didn't
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Speaker 1: put that pressure on myself, it was just fun. You
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Speaker 1: get so much rejection in acting that you have to
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Speaker 1: have fun doing it or there's no point, right, You
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Speaker 1: just really have to love doing it and certainly many
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Speaker 1: times I've gotten in my own way trying to be
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Speaker 1: too perfect and not having fun so around about answer,
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Speaker 1: but it was an answer. No, I I get it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I totally understand, and I feel what you're saying, because
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Speaker 1: like I think of some of the auditions I've done,
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Speaker 1: and I've only I've probably done like a fifth of
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Speaker 1: the number of auditions that you've done. Um. But like
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Speaker 1: I think of the auditions I've done, and I think
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Speaker 1: about the ones where I got into my head too
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Speaker 1: much and I started to doubt myself and undermine myself
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Speaker 1: and then worry about what it was they were looking for.
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Speaker 1: And ultimately I've come to the conclusion that it's best
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Speaker 1: to kind of develop your own sense of what that
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Speaker 1: character is to you, to go in an audition with
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Speaker 1: that in mind, and if that happens to be what
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Speaker 1: they're looking for, that's awesome and you're doing well. And
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Speaker 1: if it's not what they're looking for, it's probably the
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Speaker 1: best for everybody, because if they had cast you and
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Speaker 1: they were trying to make you do stuff that you're
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Speaker 1: not really good at doing or you're not comfortable doing,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna have a bad experience, right, Um, like you're
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Speaker 1: gonna resent being in the production, whether it's a show
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Speaker 1: or a TV series or whatever it is. So I
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Speaker 1: was gonna tell the story of my worst audition experience
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Speaker 1: because this one, this one was brutal, and it was
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Speaker 1: for a production of the Rocky Horror Show. Uh. It
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Speaker 1: was a local theater company, again, a community theater kind
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Speaker 1: of company, but it was actually a college based one,
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Speaker 1: but they were casting outside of just the college students,
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Speaker 1: and on a whim, I decided to go an audition.
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Speaker 1: And the way these auditions worked is they were bringing
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Speaker 1: in auditioners and groups of five, uh four or five,
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Speaker 1: and they would bring in the group and they you
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Speaker 1: would sit backstage, like literally behind the curtain, and then
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Speaker 1: one by one you would go in front of the
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Speaker 1: curtain and do your singing audition. And that's really all
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Speaker 1: they were looking at at this point was just singing.
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Speaker 1: They weren't really looking at anything else. I don't even
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Speaker 1: remember if we did monologues, might have, but but you'll
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Speaker 1: understand what my memory is seared on the singing. So
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Speaker 1: we're each assigned a number, and I'm given the last
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Speaker 1: number in the group. I'm four or five, whatever it is.
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Speaker 1: So the first person gets up, walks in front of
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Speaker 1: the curtain and starts singing, and they have like Broadway
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Speaker 1: caliber chops. Like it just sounds amazing. Now I'm a
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Speaker 1: character singer, like I can carry a tune kind of
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Speaker 1: despite That's what I'll say, despite the evidence to the
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Speaker 1: contrary in the show, I can carry it tune, and
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Speaker 1: I can do it. I can do character voices, but
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Speaker 1: I am not, like, I do not confuse myself with
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Speaker 1: like a really good singer. So then the second person
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Speaker 1: goes up. They're even They're just as good, if not
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Speaker 1: better than the first one. Third person goes up, same thing,
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Speaker 1: fourth person goes up, same thing. Four in a row,
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Speaker 1: just knocking it out of the park, having these crystal
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Speaker 1: clear voices, being able to hit these incredible ranges and
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Speaker 1: belt and everything. Granted, Rocky Horror is not really about belting.
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Speaker 1: It's a rock and roll kind of show, not a
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Speaker 1: like show tune kind of show. But even so I
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Speaker 1: was I was so intimidated, and then I go out there. Now,
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Speaker 1: the piece of music I had chosen for my audition
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Speaker 1: was what would Brian Boitano do from the South South
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Speaker 1: Park film? Uh, which I was ready to do, except
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Speaker 1: for the fact that I didn't I didn't play piano,
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Speaker 1: and I didn't have anyone who played piano who was
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Speaker 1: available to work with me, so I was unaware that
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Speaker 1: the key it was in was about oh half an
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Speaker 1: octave too low for me to sing, or if it
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Speaker 1: were played up, an octave too high for my range
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Speaker 1: to sing. So then I struggled through an audition song
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Speaker 1: that's outside of my range. So I'm not able to
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Speaker 1: get project at all, and I'm barely able to hit
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Speaker 1: some of those notes. They have me do scales after that.
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Speaker 1: The only one who had to scales first, those who
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Speaker 1: don't la la la la la la la that kind
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Speaker 1: of thing. At least they liked you enough to do that.
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Speaker 1: They didn't just say thank you next well, and then
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Speaker 1: at the end of it they say, okay, we want
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Speaker 1: everyone to come to callbacks, uh to do this. But
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Speaker 1: at this point I felt the worst I have ever
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Speaker 1: felt in my life after any kind of stage thing,
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Speaker 1: which is saying something because I was once in a
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Speaker 1: Renaissance Festival performance where one of our actors didn't show
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Speaker 1: up and we still had to try and do the show.
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Speaker 1: This was worse than that. So I go home I'm like,
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Speaker 1: I am not going to go back to the callback
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Speaker 1: because I am convinced that the only reason they told
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Speaker 1: me was because all the other four were so good
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Speaker 1: that it would have been even more of a brutal
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Speaker 1: stab to say, we want everyone to come to the callback.
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Speaker 1: Not so fast, Jonathan. So I go home. I'm miserable
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Speaker 1: I skipped the callbacks. I don't even go to the
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Speaker 1: show when it opens. I feel just I cannot disassociate
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Speaker 1: that terrible feeling with what happened and skip ahead by
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Speaker 1: another like half a year. I'm in a little murder
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Speaker 1: mystery show, Ariel. You've done some of those murder mystery
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Speaker 1: shows too, right, Yeah, So I'm in it. Um and uh.
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Speaker 1: A former King of the Renaissance Festival, Danny is in
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Speaker 1: the show, playing playing the detective, and he had played
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Speaker 1: King Henry when I was when I first started off
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Speaker 1: at the Renaissance Festival. And I get into a conversation
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Speaker 1: with him, and I happened to tell this story about
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Speaker 1: the audition, and he said, wait, wait, what song was
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Speaker 1: it that you saying? I said it was What would
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Speaker 1: Brian Boitano do? He says, I know the people who
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Speaker 1: did that show, They loved your audition. They were so
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Speaker 1: sad that you didn't come back. And I'm like, Danny,
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Speaker 1: there's probably only one thing in the world you could
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Speaker 1: have said that would have really like twisted the knife,
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Speaker 1: and that was it. I mean, but I mean, it
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Speaker 1: just goes to show that we really are our own
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Speaker 1: worst critic, like having been and I think you've been.
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Speaker 1: I know you've been on the side where you're auditioning
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Speaker 1: people as well. You want to see people succeed. You're
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Speaker 1: expecting and hoping for the best from them, and that's
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Speaker 1: really important to to remember whenever you're auditioning or even
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Speaker 1: interviewing for anything, like for even for a job, right like,
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Speaker 1: they're talking to you because they want to see you
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Speaker 1: succeed and they they want to see how awesome you are.
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Speaker 1: So uh, there have been plenty of times who have
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Speaker 1: been like I didn't get this, I didn't get this,
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Speaker 1: and then I got it um, and plenty of times
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Speaker 1: are I've been like, man, I nailed this audition and
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Speaker 1: then crickets. So it just goes to show that you
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Speaker 1: can't judge yourself by other people's standards because you don't
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Speaker 1: know what their standards are. I think it's also great
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Speaker 1: that you you pointed out like, this is not an
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Speaker 1: adversarial relationship, this is not you versus them. They want
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Speaker 1: you on the team. And yeah, and so you know,
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Speaker 1: because that's easy to forget too. Like you, there's always
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Speaker 1: like the vision of the hardest nails casting director who's
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Speaker 1: like like like somehow like the Russian ballet uh uh owner,
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Speaker 1: who is who is just an absolute taskmaster. That's not
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Speaker 1: the way it is, at least not in my experience. Well,
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Speaker 1: and I tell you because Uh, I auditioned for Disney
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Speaker 1: once with a good friend of ours, Jen. We drove
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Speaker 1: down we auditioned for Disney. We went to the Adventurers
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Speaker 1: called that night and then we drove home that night,
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Speaker 1: so twenty four hour trip. Uh and I went in
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Speaker 1: and the auditioners like we got there at like six
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Speaker 1: three in the morning. Some maybe not that early, but
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Speaker 1: it was ungodly early for me. And like we stood
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Speaker 1: in line. We were not early in the line despite
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Speaker 1: getting there super early. There were tons of people before
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Speaker 1: us and I got in there and the auditioners are like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: what do you have for us and kind of just
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Speaker 1: like going through the paces, and I said, you know, what,
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna have fun and do it. And like
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Speaker 1: my monologue excited them because I just said I'm just
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna have fun. Like I'm here, I drove
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Speaker 1: eight hours to do this. I'm just gonna have fun,
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Speaker 1: And in return, they had fun. Now I bombed on
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Speaker 1: my on my singing audition because I just picked a
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Speaker 1: song I wasn't familiar with and I tried to hit
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Speaker 1: notes that were too high for me at the time. Um,
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Speaker 1: I am a decent singer, but I am also I
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Speaker 1: would not say I'm an amazing singer, So I'm also
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Speaker 1: kind of more of a character singer. Yeah, you know what,
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Speaker 1: I long for the old days of Broadway when character
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Speaker 1: singers ruled the earth. You listen to like classic Broadway
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Speaker 1: soundtracks and you're like, this person has a very like
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Speaker 1: their their voice has a lot of personality to it.
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Speaker 1: It is not what you would call the most technically
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Speaker 1: correct voice or has the strongest breath control or the
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Speaker 1: roundest sounds or whatever it may be, but you listen
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Speaker 1: to it like you listen to like classic soundtracks from
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Speaker 1: things like Chicago and stuff like that, and you're hearing
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Speaker 1: things that wouldn't pass in a lot of today's Broadway
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Speaker 1: productions where you get you get the sort of focus
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Speaker 1: on uh, vocal perfection, and a lot of people can
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Speaker 1: do both right, A lot of people hate them, but
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Speaker 1: they can be vocally perfect and also have a lot
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Speaker 1: of character in their performance. But I feel like a
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Speaker 1: lot of times I lose the character. I'm getting like
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Speaker 1: these beautiful voices, but I'm not. I don't feel that
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Speaker 1: it's necessarily reflective of the character they are, except if
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Speaker 1: it happens to be a comedy character, because they usually
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Speaker 1: you know, then they'll dial up the whatever comedic aspect
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Speaker 1: in order to make that a reflection of the personality. Otherwise,
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Speaker 1: it's just, oh, these are people who can sing real well.
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Speaker 1: I've I've definitely I've definitely experienced that with some musicals
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Speaker 1: as well. Well, you know what, this this conversation went
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Speaker 1: on so long, Aeriel, that we're gonna we're not gonna
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Speaker 1: get into any of our discussion. By the way, for
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Speaker 1: those who are listening, this is not going to be
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Speaker 1: a news episode. We should have said that off the
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Speaker 1: off the top, because uh, as you listen to this,
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Speaker 1: I'm currently on vacation, so we pre recorded it and
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Speaker 1: because of that, you know, we don't want to pre
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Speaker 1: record news items because they'll be way out of date
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Speaker 1: by the time you hear it. So instead we're gonna
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Speaker 1: take a quick break. When we come back, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: talk about the movie Free Guy. We figured that occasionally
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Speaker 1: we're gonna chat about films, and we'll also talk about
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Speaker 1: other movies that share a quality that is present in
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Speaker 1: Free Guy. But first we're gonna take this quick break.
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Speaker 1: All right, So we're back and we have both watched
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Speaker 1: Free Guy. Thanks to my mom for watching it and saying, hey,
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Speaker 1: this is awesome, because that reminded me to chat with
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Speaker 1: Jonathan about it, who said he had watched it, and
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Speaker 1: so I watched it too. I technically watched it twice.
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Speaker 1: I watched it once on a plane, but I didn't
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Speaker 1: have headphones, so I watched it in silence, and then
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Speaker 1: I watched it with all the dialogue and it made
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Speaker 1: marginally more sense. So from that comment, Jonathan, I am
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Speaker 1: going to assume that you were nonplussed by this movie.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was fine. I thought I thought Free
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Speaker 1: Guy was fine. It is an entertaining diversion um. But
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Speaker 1: you know, also I would argue it's very Forgettable from
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Speaker 1: I'm sure that in a year I'll have very little
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Speaker 1: memory of this movie. I am. I also thought it
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Speaker 1: was fine. Um. I liked the world building, and I
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Speaker 1: liked the characters, but I felt like the third act
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Speaker 1: was too rushed for me and made some logic bounds
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Speaker 1: that m she didn't hit home because the rest of
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Speaker 1: the character building kind of hit home enough for me. Um,
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Speaker 1: I could definitely tell that this was a movie that
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Speaker 1: had some rewrites over the pandemic. Yeah, So for those
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Speaker 1: who aren't aware of what Free Guy is, just in
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Speaker 1: case you haven't seen it, you're not aware of it.
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Speaker 1: It's the It's it's kind of two storylines going on
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Speaker 1: at the same time. You've got this game world that's
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Speaker 1: kind of like Grand Theft Auto meets Fortnite. And in
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Speaker 1: that game world you have Ryan Reynolds who's playing a
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Speaker 1: character called Guy and he's an n PC, but of
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Speaker 1: course he's not aware of that. He's just a resident
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Speaker 1: of this where all the crazy stuff that happens in
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Speaker 1: video games that's just day to day activity. He's never
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Speaker 1: part of that, or at least never directly part of
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Speaker 1: that because he's in PC. But like, no one thinks
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Speaker 1: it's strange that this stuff happens. Then you've got the
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Speaker 1: storyline that's unfolding in the real world, where you have
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Speaker 1: these folks who created a program that was designed to
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Speaker 1: create artificially intelligent Umka actors who would evolve over time
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Speaker 1: and would exist within a virtual world, and that this
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Speaker 1: um Giant game company ended up secretly incorporating that code
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Speaker 1: into this game without the creator's permission, and so they
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Speaker 1: are on a quest essentially to uncover evidence that that's
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Speaker 1: what happened so that they can get their game back.
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Speaker 1: So these are the two storylines that are going at
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Speaker 1: the same time. And of course the big reveal is
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Speaker 1: that the NPC character it comes to the realization that
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Speaker 1: he inhabits a game, that it is a virtual world
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Speaker 1: that he is in, and that the people who are
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Speaker 1: these superpowered creatures flying around with sunglasses on are real
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Speaker 1: humans who are controlling characters within the game. And then
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Speaker 1: the plot goes from there. So did you find the
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Speaker 1: Because I really loved the first half of the movie.
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Speaker 1: I love I was. I thought it was a really
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Speaker 1: cool idea that these characters, even though they were having
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Speaker 1: the same conversation every day with their their scripted lines
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Speaker 1: had memories of their previous day conversations. Um, I really
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Speaker 1: liked that. I loved the detail of like the characters
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Speaker 1: who were just jumping every five steps down the street,
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Speaker 1: because that's how I play a video game like the one,
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Speaker 1: Like you look in the background and there would be
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Speaker 1: someone who's just running into a wall, like they're just
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Speaker 1: trying to run, but there's a wall in the way,
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Speaker 1: and you're like, yeah, that's when someone like someone's little
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Speaker 1: sister got hold of the controller or something. Yeah, So
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Speaker 1: I really like, I really felt like I was in
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Speaker 1: this world. I felt like they had a great attention
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Speaker 1: to detail, and I loved watching the characters developed. The
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Speaker 1: real world stuff didn't interested me as much. That's where
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Speaker 1: I felt it was rushed and honestly, tycho A TV
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Speaker 1: plays the villain, and I felt like he was the
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Speaker 1: villain in the wrong movie, a villain in the wrong movie.
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Speaker 1: It was a little weird like he because he comes
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Speaker 1: across so car tunish in many ways, but like you
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Speaker 1: start questioning things, a lot of things like how did
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Speaker 1: he get to where he is? Right? Like, how did
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Speaker 1: he get to this point? He presumably at some point
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Speaker 1: was a developer, unless he was just uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: rich from the start and just bought a company and
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Speaker 1: then paid people to make stuff. But he seems also
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Speaker 1: very ignorant of a lot of basic stuff if he
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Speaker 1: was a developer. Um yeah, it was very weird. Uh,
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Speaker 1: because I cover technology for my other show. There were
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Speaker 1: a lot of things there where I was like, well,
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Speaker 1: this this is I know it's a movie, but this
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Speaker 1: isn't how this works. Like that happened to me a lot.
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Speaker 1: But um, but at the same time, yeah, but at
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Speaker 1: the same time, you're like, it's a movie. You know,
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Speaker 1: you gotta again suspend disbelief or whatever. Um. I think
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Speaker 1: the in game stuff was the strongest stuff in the movie.
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Speaker 1: I agree with you, Ariel. I think I think that
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Speaker 1: was where uh. I mean, it's definitely where the heart
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Speaker 1: of the movie was. And also I liked the first
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Speaker 1: I liked the first part of the movie better than
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Speaker 1: the second part. Yeah. So I'm saying the end game
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Speaker 1: not end game, but end game. Oh I heard end game? Okay, yes, no,
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Speaker 1: I I apologize for my annunciation. Yeah. No, I think
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Speaker 1: the stuff that was happening inside the game was way
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Speaker 1: more interesting, and I do agree. I felt like the
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Speaker 1: first half was more fun than the second half, with
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Speaker 1: the exception of some you can't and call them Easter
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Speaker 1: eggs because they were so blatant. But some of the
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Speaker 1: references that were being made towards the very end of
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Speaker 1: the game into the movie because one of the other
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Speaker 1: things that happened while this movie was being developed is
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Speaker 1: that Disney acquired Fox and so suddenly that meant that
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Speaker 1: the movie potentially had access to some Disney assets that
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Speaker 1: it wouldn't have otherwise, and they made use of them
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Speaker 1: and other video game assets. I liked the meta and
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Speaker 1: free guy that in a movie about using other people's
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Speaker 1: i P, that they just leaned heavily into using other
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Speaker 1: people's i P and various points of the movie. I
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Speaker 1: also think that as far as using other characters, other actors,
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Speaker 1: and product placement, it was done better than let's say,
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Speaker 1: Ready Player one, which is a similar movie. UM and
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Speaker 1: I like I like that they had guest stars and
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Speaker 1: they were all like exception of Channing Tatum, they were
20:23
Speaker 1: all pretty minute like John Krasinski was in it, The
20:26
Speaker 1: Rock was in it. There was an actual twitch streamer, Pokemone.
20:30
Speaker 1: There are several twitch twitch streamers because Jack Septicai is
20:34
Speaker 1: in there too, Okay, I wasn't sure, Like I'm not
20:36
Speaker 1: as familiar with Jack Septicai, but I am familiar with Pokemon.
20:40
Speaker 1: So they had all these references that meant things to
20:42
Speaker 1: like video gamers and popular culture people. But I felt
20:45
Speaker 1: like they put it in better than Ready Player one,
20:49
Speaker 1: which was just like hey reference, hey reference, or even Shrek,
20:52
Speaker 1: which is like hey reference, hey reference. Yeah. No, the
20:56
Speaker 1: stuff that they were doing like, they were doing references
20:58
Speaker 1: the way Fortnite does, which is I mean again, they
21:01
Speaker 1: were kind of playing a Fortnite right the content some
21:04
Speaker 1: Fortnite stuff in there, yeah, yeah, but yeah, especially like
21:08
Speaker 1: the dancing stuff and everything. But but this also got
21:11
Speaker 1: us to thinking about what is called in trope world
21:16
Speaker 1: medium awareness, as in when you have a story where
21:21
Speaker 1: you have at least some character or something involved in
21:25
Speaker 1: that story that appears to be aware that it is
21:28
Speaker 1: in a story. Medium awareness can take a lot of
21:31
Speaker 1: different forms. Sometimes it is blatantly obvious, like Deadpool is
21:37
Speaker 1: a great example of a character who has medium awareness,
21:39
Speaker 1: and only that. It's medium awareness that depends upon whichever
21:43
Speaker 1: form of medium you're looking at, right, Like in a
21:45
Speaker 1: comic book, Deadpool is aware he's in a comic book
21:48
Speaker 1: and also can manipulate things because the way comic book
21:52
Speaker 1: structure is, he can work with that, whereas when he's
21:55
Speaker 1: in a film, he's aware he's in a film. That's
21:58
Speaker 1: the whole gag we saw in the first two Deadpool movies.
22:03
Speaker 1: Um ye, not in Wolverine Origin, sure, I think also
22:08
Speaker 1: their slapstick who literally is that somebody who literally becomes
22:12
Speaker 1: a cartoon character in the model world who does similar stuff. Yeah,
22:18
Speaker 1: and there are there are other ones that are a
22:20
Speaker 1: little more like. It's not as it's not as overt like.
22:23
Speaker 1: There's some that are over, but it's not that's not
22:26
Speaker 1: like the point where it's not a through line. For example,
22:29
Speaker 1: if you watch any of the Muppet movies, typically there's
22:32
Speaker 1: at least some point where they're talking about the fact
22:34
Speaker 1: that they are in a movie, and the characters are
22:38
Speaker 1: aware that they're in a movie. It doesn't happen over
22:41
Speaker 1: and over and over again, but it will happen like
22:44
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you'll have a bit where Rizzo
22:46
Speaker 1: will say this one, this is supposed to be a
22:48
Speaker 1: kids movie, like in in the The Treasure Island Muppets,
22:53
Speaker 1: um or Tim Curry will say, upstage, lads, this is
22:57
Speaker 1: my only number, thus acknowledging the this is a a
23:01
Speaker 1: construct a story. Um and then yeah, that almost feels
23:08
Speaker 1: I mean, it rides the line. It almost feels more
23:10
Speaker 1: fourth wall breaking the medium awareness because something like Free Guy,
23:14
Speaker 1: they come to the realization like you watch that journey, Well,
23:17
Speaker 1: sure that's the thing. Though medium awareness can take those
23:20
Speaker 1: different different aspects, like you can have it where it's
23:24
Speaker 1: a like within the story, it's a character who becomes
23:27
Speaker 1: aware that they're in a story, and that leads to conflict, right,
23:31
Speaker 1: it might lead to some sort of existential drama for
23:35
Speaker 1: the character. For example, the Truman Show is a film
23:40
Speaker 1: where you have the main character realizing that everything around
23:44
Speaker 1: him is a fiction, that it's all been constructed, and
23:48
Speaker 1: that his life is the subject of a reality show,
23:52
Speaker 1: and that everything else around him is not real, like
23:56
Speaker 1: it's all actors who are performing the part of his
23:59
Speaker 1: friends and family and things of that nature, and that uh,
24:04
Speaker 1: all of his actions are constrained because of this. He
24:08
Speaker 1: is he is highly um restricted from being able to
24:13
Speaker 1: explore beyond his small town because that would mean that
24:16
Speaker 1: he would discover that he's not in a real situation
24:20
Speaker 1: and the show would go away. So that's an example
24:24
Speaker 1: of medium awareness, where a character becomes aware that they're
24:28
Speaker 1: in a show within a show. Obviously, he doesn't get
24:31
Speaker 1: to a point where he realizes he's in a movie
24:34
Speaker 1: that's about a guy who finds out that he's the
24:36
Speaker 1: subject of a show. It doesn't go that far. I
24:38
Speaker 1: feel like at least most of the film's intelligence should
24:41
Speaker 1: shows that I'm familiar with personally that play with that,
24:45
Speaker 1: like Matrix, West World, Trument Show, Stranger than Fiction, don't
24:50
Speaker 1: lose the plot as much as Free Guy. Like there's
24:53
Speaker 1: a better end point, sure, a better overall story. Free
25:00
Speaker 1: Guy was so much fun, But it's kind of the
25:02
Speaker 1: way I write mash ups where I have a great
25:05
Speaker 1: concept and I don't know how to resolve it. I
25:08
Speaker 1: don't know how to get out. No, I totally understand that. Yeah,
25:10
Speaker 1: I think there are good ways of doing it, and
25:12
Speaker 1: there are bad ways of doing it. And it's again
25:15
Speaker 1: like sometimes it's just limited. Like sometimes you're literally using
25:19
Speaker 1: medium awareness in order to do a joke, and it's
25:21
Speaker 1: not to It's not something where the character just remains
25:25
Speaker 1: perpetually aware that they're in a fake setting. One of
25:30
Speaker 1: the examples I put in our notes was a fire.
25:32
Speaker 1: Signed Theater, which is a radio comedy group that was
25:36
Speaker 1: out of California. They used to do these shows where
25:40
Speaker 1: they would do things like a detective series kind of
25:43
Speaker 1: similar to old style radio detective series, and they would
25:48
Speaker 1: have jokes in the show that referenced radio stuff, where
25:53
Speaker 1: like there's a point where you you hear like they're
25:55
Speaker 1: supposed to be getting close to a fire. This is
25:57
Speaker 1: a just put your mucklocks over by the cell pane
26:00
Speaker 1: and let them dry out because the cellophane being the
26:03
Speaker 1: how they're making the sound effect of the fires, and
26:05
Speaker 1: get your bucklucks out of the cellophane before they scorch
26:08
Speaker 1: um or a bit where is this it had been
26:10
Speaker 1: snowing since the top of the page, And like little
26:14
Speaker 1: jokes like that where they're making references to the fact
26:16
Speaker 1: that these are actors who are reading a script and
26:18
Speaker 1: not like an actual story playing out um. But again
26:22
Speaker 1: it's done for comedy. It's like deconstructing the radio play.
26:26
Speaker 1: That was the whole purpose of it. Uh. And then
26:28
Speaker 1: there are also examples of this like in television the
26:32
Speaker 1: TV series Community, the character of a bed obviously has
26:36
Speaker 1: some level of medium awareness and they use it to
26:39
Speaker 1: make a lot of jokes and to suggest that abed
26:42
Speaker 1: needs to think about life in terms of television and
26:46
Speaker 1: movies in order to make sense of it. But they're
26:48
Speaker 1: also using it as an excuse to deconstruct their own
26:52
Speaker 1: shows format. Mhm. I tend to love as as long
26:57
Speaker 1: as they use it sparingly when a TV show does that, true, um,
27:00
Speaker 1: because yeah, it makes it. It makes me feel personally
27:04
Speaker 1: loved in that episode of that show. I don't know why,
27:07
Speaker 1: I know, I know it's a gimmick. Um, as long
27:10
Speaker 1: as it's you sparingly agreed. I mean like, if you
27:13
Speaker 1: overuse it, then it starts to become a thing where
27:17
Speaker 1: there's this thing called lamp shading. Lamp shading is when
27:19
Speaker 1: you call attention to when you are making use of
27:23
Speaker 1: a particular trope, but you're by calling attention to it,
27:28
Speaker 1: you're kind of giving yourself the excuse of making use
27:31
Speaker 1: of that particular trope. Um, and that if you do that,
27:35
Speaker 1: it's almost like you've released the tension that the audience
27:38
Speaker 1: would have where they would otherwise say, wait, that doesn't
27:42
Speaker 1: make sense. How would the character know that or react
27:45
Speaker 1: that way within the character's world. It's kind of a
27:48
Speaker 1: way of of smoothing that over. But if you use
27:51
Speaker 1: it too much, eventually people are gonna be like, come on,
27:56
Speaker 1: come on with this. Yeah, I mean, but it's that
28:00
Speaker 1: way with any joke unless you're Steve Martin really or
28:05
Speaker 1: the Muppets. Good grief, I mean, yeah, but Steve Martin, like,
28:11
Speaker 1: I associate Steve Martin often with the Muppets, uh, for
28:15
Speaker 1: their similar style of bring it, just keep doing it
28:17
Speaker 1: till it comes back around to funny. Plus, he was
28:19
Speaker 1: in the first Muppet movie. Yes, well that was fun
28:24
Speaker 1: So end comment on Free Guy. Would you recommend people
28:27
Speaker 1: watch it? Jonathan, Uh, if you don't have other stuff
28:32
Speaker 1: that you feel like you really should be watching, It's
28:35
Speaker 1: it's a fun diversion. I think tycho a Tit is
28:38
Speaker 1: funny in it. I agree with you that he kind
28:40
Speaker 1: of feels like he belongs in a different movie. But
28:43
Speaker 1: um yeah, I give it a weak recommendation. How about you? Um,
28:47
Speaker 1: I do give it a recommendation again. And I love
28:49
Speaker 1: taco A TV and I love the things he's created.
28:52
Speaker 1: Jojo Rabbit is brilliant and I love Thor Ragnarok, but
28:55
Speaker 1: he was the weak point for me. I did not
28:58
Speaker 1: enjoy watching him. I felt like he was too over
29:01
Speaker 1: the top and disconnected from reality in a story about
29:05
Speaker 1: a sentient video game character, um and not sonic UM.
29:11
Speaker 1: But I still enjoyed it. It was feel good and
29:15
Speaker 1: it was fun and if you like video games, it'll
29:18
Speaker 1: make you chuckle. Just for there. You can tell that
29:20
Speaker 1: the people who created this also love video games. So,
29:24
Speaker 1: uh I would I would give it a lazy Saturday
29:27
Speaker 1: afternoon recommend Fair enough. Well, that's our discussion of Free
29:31
Speaker 1: Guy and medium awareness. I'm sure we'll touch on stuff
29:34
Speaker 1: like that again in the future. Uh. Now, we're going
29:38
Speaker 1: to take another break, and when we come back, we've
29:40
Speaker 1: got a mash up for you. All right, we're and
30:00
Speaker 1: this mashup was a listener suggestion from Clara. Thank you, Clara.
30:05
Speaker 1: Uh it was great to hear from you and get
30:07
Speaker 1: this recommendation. We hope you enjoy it. And uh, I
30:11
Speaker 1: guess we should tell you what the mashup actually is.
30:14
Speaker 1: That usually helps One of them is Lord of the
30:17
Speaker 1: Rings is a little fantasy series this Tolking Guy made.
30:23
Speaker 1: I got a tattoo that relates to Lord of the Rings. Yeah,
30:27
Speaker 1: if you don't know what Lord of the Rings is,
30:28
Speaker 1: I don't know how you found this podcast. Yeah. Well
30:32
Speaker 1: also we've talked about it before so recently ish, so
30:37
Speaker 1: go back and listen. And the other property is Star
30:42
Speaker 1: Trek the Next Generation, which also if you don't well,
30:46
Speaker 1: I guess it's old enough now that if you don't
30:47
Speaker 1: know what the Next Generation is, that's that's maybe okay,
30:52
Speaker 1: but you should know what Star Trek is. Um. Yes,
30:56
Speaker 1: it's the one with Patrick Stewart, Profess Sir X as
31:01
Speaker 1: the captain. UM Jean Luc Picard. Yeah, it's the it's
31:05
Speaker 1: the Piccard series before Picard, Yes, which the you know,
31:10
Speaker 1: the second season of Piccard just came out and uh
31:14
Speaker 1: was a little bit of an inspiration because they are
31:18
Speaker 1: using one of my favorite characters in it, which is Q.
31:21
Speaker 1: Spoiler alert, I also use Q. Oh. Well, I'm gonna
31:25
Speaker 1: let you go first, just in case mine and being
31:27
Speaker 1: the same exact as yours. All right, Well, here here's mine,
31:30
Speaker 1: which is called Trek of the Lord of the Rings.
31:34
Speaker 1: Jean Luke Baggins has a problem. Part of him very
31:37
Speaker 1: much wishes to be back in his native Hobbiton, tending
31:40
Speaker 1: to vineyards and spending his evenings curled up by a
31:43
Speaker 1: fire in his little French hobbit hole, or as the
31:46
Speaker 1: French say, is true de obeit, but duty calls after
31:51
Speaker 1: the wizard q Dolf arrives one day with a curious
31:55
Speaker 1: message that Jean Luke's uncle left behind a communicator of
31:58
Speaker 1: incredible power, the one communicator, Cutoff called it, and that
32:03
Speaker 1: this communicator was, in all actuality a device engineered by
32:07
Speaker 1: the evil Romulin named Sauron, and if Sauron were to
32:11
Speaker 1: possess this communicator, he would be unstoppable and all of
32:15
Speaker 1: the Middle Federation would fall under his control. So cut
32:19
Speaker 1: Off says to Jean Luke, you need to take this
32:22
Speaker 1: thing to the Rivendale Quadrant. And Jean Luke is like, wait,
32:25
Speaker 1: you're an all powerful wizard, dude, why don't you take it?
32:28
Speaker 1: And Cutoff says, uh, it's a test, yep, it's a
32:31
Speaker 1: test to make sure Hobbits are um worthy. And then
32:35
Speaker 1: he disappears before anyone can question the plot hole further.
32:38
Speaker 1: So Jean Luke gets ready to set out, but he
32:40
Speaker 1: needs his away team, so Sam wise Riker joins as
32:44
Speaker 1: his number one. Then you got Mary LaForge, sweet intelligent, inventive,
32:48
Speaker 1: blind Hobbit, and then there's Data the Android, and they
32:52
Speaker 1: all set out on the Enterprise, which isn't just a
32:55
Speaker 1: way of saying that they got to work, but also
32:57
Speaker 1: that they used a starship called the Enterprise to do it,
32:59
Speaker 1: because is I'm clever Excelsior. Before long, the group finds
33:04
Speaker 1: themselves pursued by Klingon Raiths, which are these wicked small
33:08
Speaker 1: Klingon fighter ships that can disappear and stuff. But they
33:11
Speaker 1: managed to meet up with someone who is really capable,
33:14
Speaker 1: and that's Warfa Gorn, a brilliant warrior and would be
33:17
Speaker 1: king of the Klingon Empire, which in ages passed was
33:20
Speaker 1: known as the kingdom that guarded the Middle Federation against
33:23
Speaker 1: the forces of Salon. So Warfa Gorn joins the crew
33:27
Speaker 1: and there's a bit of a scuffle with the Klingon
33:29
Speaker 1: Raiths and the Neutral Zone on the way to the
33:30
Speaker 1: Rivendale Quadrant, and Jean Luke cops a phaser blast to
33:34
Speaker 1: the shoulder, but his friends managed to get him away
33:36
Speaker 1: to the Rivendale Quadrant, where he is treated by Vulcan
33:39
Speaker 1: medics who look a bit like elves because they have
33:41
Speaker 1: pointy ears. Anyway, then there's this big meeting where everyone
33:45
Speaker 1: decides the only way to get rid of the one
33:47
Speaker 1: communicator is for someone to go all the way to
33:50
Speaker 1: the doom hole, which sounds about as pleasant as it is,
33:54
Speaker 1: and to fire the one communicator directly into it. So
33:57
Speaker 1: a group consisting of Jean Luke, Sam Wise, Mary, Data, Warfagren,
34:03
Speaker 1: cut Off and newcomers Gimli Troy, the empathetic Dwarf, Legoless
34:08
Speaker 1: Crusher and irritating Elf who is for some reason good
34:10
Speaker 1: at everything, and the walking phaser sponge known as Lieutenant
34:15
Speaker 1: bore Yar Mirror. Okay, Lieutenant bore Yar here. So their
34:19
Speaker 1: first task is to make their way through the treacherous
34:21
Speaker 1: Maria Nebula, where cut Off pieces out after seeing a
34:24
Speaker 1: bow rock class Cardassian worship. But don't worry, he'll pop
34:27
Speaker 1: up again later in the story. The rest get through Maria,
34:31
Speaker 1: but not far off. After they get to the other side,
34:34
Speaker 1: Lieutenant bore Yar Mirror is unceremoniously killed by a gooped monster.
34:38
Speaker 1: Turns out the actor playing bore Yar Mirror wasn't really
34:41
Speaker 1: satisfied whereas part was going, and negotiations broke down, so
34:44
Speaker 1: he got written out anyway. Around this point everyone splits
34:48
Speaker 1: up anyway. Jean Lucan number one head off to the
34:51
Speaker 1: Moore Door sector, where the doom Hole is unbeknownst to them,
34:54
Speaker 1: but beknownst to us, they are pursued by Borgam, a
34:58
Speaker 1: pathetic creature that at one point had been assimilated by
35:01
Speaker 1: the Great Communicator but then lost the Great Communicator to
35:04
Speaker 1: Jean Luke's uncle half a century earlier. Anyway, bored Um
35:09
Speaker 1: follows from a distance for a while, but eventually Sam
35:12
Speaker 1: Wise and John Luke catch on to that fact and
35:14
Speaker 1: they set up a little ambush to find out what's
35:15
Speaker 1: going on, and after Borgam is brought aboard the Enterprise,
35:19
Speaker 1: they decide that he's valuable because he knows the way
35:22
Speaker 1: to the doom Hole, but he seems pretty slimy, and
35:25
Speaker 1: despite all that, Jean Luke seems to trust bored Um
35:27
Speaker 1: way more than he trusts Sam Wise, which creates some
35:30
Speaker 1: dramatic tension on the ship. But that really upsets Gene
35:32
Speaker 1: Roddenberry because he thought there shouldn't be any conflict between
35:35
Speaker 1: crew members because we would have evolved beyond that by then,
35:38
Speaker 1: har har heart. Anyway, Jean Luke eventually names Boredam his
35:42
Speaker 1: new number one, and that really upsets Sam Wise a lot,
35:45
Speaker 1: and when Borgam really turns out to be a narsty well,
35:48
Speaker 1: Jean Luke doesn't even take time to apologize, as Sam Wise,
35:51
Speaker 1: but because Sam Wise has to stick by Jean Luke
35:53
Speaker 1: to have any hope of promotion, he sucks it up
35:55
Speaker 1: and just sticks it out. Meanwhile, most of the rest
35:58
Speaker 1: continue on to Deep Moment, a heavily fortified star base
36:02
Speaker 1: where they work to unite people's against Son and fight
36:05
Speaker 1: off a Romulan invasion. And it's very cinematic, but Legolis
36:09
Speaker 1: Crusher keeps doing unrealistically incredible things, so we all hate
36:12
Speaker 1: him by the end of it. Oh and cute Off
36:14
Speaker 1: shows up again because he just can't shake that guy,
36:17
Speaker 1: but now he's dressed all in white for some reason. Anyway,
36:20
Speaker 1: we get these branching storylines, and it gets even more
36:22
Speaker 1: complicated because then Mary and his best friend Data also
36:25
Speaker 1: split up, but I can't remember which is which and
36:28
Speaker 1: the story so one of them goes to the Horsey
36:30
Speaker 1: people and the other one goes to the Big City people.
36:32
Speaker 1: And then we get to this point where Jean Luke,
36:34
Speaker 1: having managed to take the communicator all this way, finally
36:38
Speaker 1: feels it weighing on him. Plus and I totally forgot
36:40
Speaker 1: to mention this many years earlier. Jean Luke was briefly
36:43
Speaker 1: assimilated into the Communicator group, you know, the board group
36:46
Speaker 1: that's the same one that Borgam was in, and so
36:48
Speaker 1: that kind of gnaws at him. Also, he gets really
36:51
Speaker 1: confused as to where to throw the Great Communicator once
36:54
Speaker 1: they get to the doom Hole, because Sam Wise is like,
36:56
Speaker 1: just throw it into the light master Jean Luke, and
36:58
Speaker 1: Jean Luca is like, are four lights and if you
37:02
Speaker 1: get that reference, let us know at Ellen c at
37:05
Speaker 1: iHeart Media dot com. Anyway, that's all a moot point
37:09
Speaker 1: because Jean Luke collapses and then Borgam rushes up and
37:12
Speaker 1: grabs the communicator and starts to communicate with everybody, except
37:15
Speaker 1: he totally doesn't look where he's going and he falls
37:17
Speaker 1: right into the doom Hole and that ends up ripping
37:20
Speaker 1: so Ron into little bitty pieces. Sam Wise Ryker get
37:23
Speaker 1: Jean Luke, Baggins loaded up onto the Enterprise and they
37:26
Speaker 1: fly off or listening to the Eagles. And you might say, well,
37:28
Speaker 1: why didn't they just listen to the eagles at the
37:31
Speaker 1: beginning of the movie, And I would say, listen, this
37:33
Speaker 1: all had to happen. This way for there to be
37:34
Speaker 1: a story. Okay. Anyway, after they take it easy Eagles reference,
37:41
Speaker 1: they end up flying back to Shire Space, where Jean
37:44
Speaker 1: Luke can recover from his ordeal, and he retires from
37:47
Speaker 1: ship captain ing and Sam wise takes over and has
37:50
Speaker 1: some adventures, and eventually Jean Luke decides to go on
37:52
Speaker 1: a boat ride. It's all really bittersweet, and then the
37:55
Speaker 1: enterprise blows up because apparently that has to happen in
37:57
Speaker 1: every Star Trek story now. But don't worry. There's a
38:00
Speaker 1: lot of letters in the Elvish alphabet, so we'll just
38:02
Speaker 1: end up with another one later on the end. I
38:07
Speaker 1: loved it. I was trying to quietly laugh at my
38:12
Speaker 1: mic um not into my mic throughout the entire thing. Uh,
38:17
Speaker 1: there is one thing in particular that uh we used
38:21
Speaker 1: exactly the same, but I'll get to that, Okay. My
38:26
Speaker 1: episode is called to Boldly Troll. One particularly quiet day
38:31
Speaker 1: in space, Captain Jean Luc Picard decided to take some
38:34
Speaker 1: time for himself and enjoy a nice picnic in the
38:36
Speaker 1: French countryside. Via the hollow deck. He grabbed a bottle
38:40
Speaker 1: of real wine, as well as some cheese and grapes
38:42
Speaker 1: from the replicators and off he went. Sadly, many of
38:45
Speaker 1: the other members of the crew had the same idea,
38:47
Speaker 1: so when he got to the holideck, Data Diana, Troy, Beverly, Crusher,
38:50
Speaker 1: Commander Riker, and Warf were also there. They're a bit surprised,
38:54
Speaker 1: but being good friends, they sat and ate a meal together. However,
38:57
Speaker 1: about halfway through the meal, Que popped into their delight
39:00
Speaker 1: all afternoon and said, good, you're all here. My plan worked.
39:03
Speaker 1: Let's ditch these eleven seas and visit some fun history.
39:06
Speaker 1: And with that he snapped his fingers and everyone disappeared
39:09
Speaker 1: from the hollow deck. When the days cleared, the crew
39:12
Speaker 1: found themselves on what looked to be a mountain pass.
39:14
Speaker 1: They could hear the sound of an angry mob, growling
39:17
Speaker 1: and yelling and running towards them. The mob sounded vaguely
39:20
Speaker 1: like Klingons, but Warf confirmed that they weren't. He didn't
39:23
Speaker 1: recognize the language at all. The card said this is
39:26
Speaker 1: not funny. Que, return us to our picnic, but Q refused.
39:29
Speaker 1: Picard clicked his communicator badge and commanded the computer to
39:32
Speaker 1: stop the simulation, but the computer didn't respond. Data confirmed Captain,
39:37
Speaker 1: it looks like we're no longer on the ship, but
39:39
Speaker 1: on something resembling a medieval Earth's New Zealand. Just then,
39:42
Speaker 1: Picard's communicator fell off and onto the rocky ground below.
39:45
Speaker 1: When John Luke picked it up, it turned into a
39:47
Speaker 1: ring and slipped onto his finger, and he disappeared. The
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Speaker 1: crew was shocked. Data tried to scamper pcard, but his
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Speaker 1: triquarter turned into a bow and arrow, and all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden Data realized his already impeccable hearing was even better.
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Speaker 1: He reached up and found that his ears were now pointed.
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Speaker 1: He turned to the crew and saw that they had
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Speaker 1: changed to Troy also had pointed ears. Richer and Beverly
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Speaker 1: were still human, but in like armor with swords. And
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Speaker 1: then there was Wharf, who had shrunk to like nearly
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Speaker 1: half his height and was holding an axe. They all
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Speaker 1: turned to find Q and yelled at him to fix this,
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Speaker 1: but he quickly disappeared, just as the angry mob they
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Speaker 1: had heard round in the corner and they were face
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Speaker 1: to face with an army of orcs and trolls. Away
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Speaker 1: they went, with their primitive weapons, fighting through grotesque army.
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Speaker 1: Just then Picard reappeared, but it was the child version
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Speaker 1: of of himself. Not again. Riker yelled, but he quickly
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Speaker 1: turned his attention back to the incoming onslaught. As capable
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Speaker 1: and skilled as this crew was, even with a child picard,
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Speaker 1: they still were not prepared for a battle like this,
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Speaker 1: and very quickly things looked very bleak. Suddenly Q reappeared
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Speaker 1: in gray robes with a long gray beard, holding a
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Speaker 1: large staff and said, I'm disappointed at you. Fine, I'll
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Speaker 1: do this myself, and he stamped his staff on the ground.
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Speaker 1: A bright light ashton. The entire army was felled. Everyone
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Speaker 1: fell to the ground, battered and bruised, except Wharf, who
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Speaker 1: was sad to find the fighting had stopped. Q called
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Speaker 1: it a failed experiment and sent the entire crew, no
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Speaker 1: worse for wear, back to the Enterprise. That night, John
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Speaker 1: Luke was sitting in his drawing room when all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden it dawned on him that their situation seemed
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Speaker 1: awfully familiar. He went to his bookshelf and pulled out
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Speaker 1: a frail, dusty book and opened it to the middle.
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Speaker 1: It read Q Dolf single handedly defeated the evil armies
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Speaker 1: of helms Deep and saved the Fellowship from certain death.
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Speaker 1: The card rolled his eyes and debated whether he had
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Speaker 1: to scold que for changing history or fantasy or literature.
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Speaker 1: He wasn't actually sure what category this fell into, but
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Speaker 1: that would be a problem for another day. Back in
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Speaker 1: WARF's room, we see Warf that lift attached to a
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Speaker 1: long pole, beard longer than larger than normal, dressed in
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Speaker 1: chain mail, holding a Holidack program disk with a card
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Speaker 1: on it. The card read, have fun, my little Dwarf
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Speaker 1: love Q. A smile slowly builds on WARF's face as
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Speaker 1: the enterprise theme comes up and out the end, I
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Speaker 1: am so proud of you for the dwarf joke, and
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Speaker 1: I am so disappointed in myself for not coming up
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Speaker 1: with it. Well, let me tell you, I wrote the
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Speaker 1: entire thing, and it wasn't until I was writing that
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Speaker 1: last line that I thought of it. So I made
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Speaker 1: him a dwarf and didn't even realize that it sounded
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Speaker 1: like his name. Yeah, because I made him Aragorn, because
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Speaker 1: I was like, I make his Aragorn. I've already made
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Speaker 1: Rych or Sam Wise, So I was running out of options.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't gonna bring Chief of Brian in there or anything.
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Speaker 1: That was fun. It was it was like I had
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Speaker 1: a lot of fun poking fun at some of the
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Speaker 1: complaints people often have a Lord of the Rings, like
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Speaker 1: the whole thing about why didn't they just have the
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Speaker 1: Eagles take them to Mount Doom at the beginning and
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Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. I love, as you know,
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Speaker 1: I love using these mash says an opportunity to kind
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Speaker 1: of poke fun at the at the materials we're using
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Speaker 1: to mash up. Yeah, Like, if you can't have fun
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Speaker 1: with something and make fun of something, then do you
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Speaker 1: really love it? Yeah? I don't actually know the answer
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Speaker 1: to that question. You know that, you know, I you know,
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Speaker 1: I am having a good time when I'm sitting there
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Speaker 1: making references to the Eagles the band because I'm like,
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Speaker 1: I'm like the Big Lebowski or actually the little Lebowski.
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Speaker 1: I'm like the dude. I am not an Eagles fan.
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Speaker 1: I was both the dude. Because that's a line that
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Speaker 1: doesn't pass on a family friendly podcast. Well, our family
43:42
Speaker 1: friendly listeners appreciate that, Jonathan. Well, we should wrap this
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Speaker 1: up by saying, if you have suggestions for mashups, or
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Speaker 1: maybe you have your own thoughts about a Lord of
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Speaker 1: the Ring star Trek mash up that you know you
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Speaker 1: want to share with us, or just anything else, like
43:57
Speaker 1: maybe there's something else you want us to chat about.
43:59
Speaker 1: Maybe there's specific movie you would like us to kind
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Speaker 1: of talk about. Uh, it helps if we've both seen it.
44:05
Speaker 1: I mean, we will go out and seek out movies
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Speaker 1: that we haven't seen before. Yeah, yeah, within limits. I mean,
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Speaker 1: Ariel is not a horror fan, so let's not make
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Speaker 1: or watch horror movies, y'all. Um. I mean, but it
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Speaker 1: depends on the movie. But yeah, don't test me. Yeah,
44:19
Speaker 1: it sounded like a challenge. It wasn't. It wasn't. I'll
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Speaker 1: put to this way, She's not gonna be watching Hostel, Okay,
44:25
Speaker 1: I will not let that happen. Um. Anyway, y'all, let
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