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The Truth About Delegation and Emotional Recovery · Groove with Portia

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Group Porsche, the podcast that uncovers the hidden
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Speaker 1: Those of you who know, November is always a special
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Speaker 1: month for me because it is my birthday month and
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Speaker 1: I celebrate all month long. And one of the things
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Speaker 1: that also makes November special is my great grandmother was
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Speaker 1: also born in the same month. If she was still around,
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Speaker 1: she would have been one hundred and ten years old
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Speaker 1: this year. And my great grandmother, Nanny, she taught me
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Speaker 1: young about life and about business. And one of the
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Speaker 1: things that I took away from her is her way
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Speaker 1: of building relationships while managing several layered pieces in her life,
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Speaker 1: from burying her her two husbands, burying grandchildren, and her
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Speaker 1: own kids. And I wondered at times, how did Nanny
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Speaker 1: do it? How did Nanny make a way through all
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Speaker 1: of these transitions and changes and also paving the way
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Speaker 1: for the women in my family to also be successful.
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Speaker 1: So today, everybody, I have the honor of having a
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Speaker 1: woman who was one of the trailblazers in so many
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Speaker 1: different industries. She is now currently an author of a
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Speaker 1: book called A Layered Life, Breaking Barriers as a trail
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Speaker 1: bloe Black woman in corporate America. So welcome to Groul Porsche,
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Speaker 1: Miss Gladys d Klouette, to Guru Porsha. How are you today,
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Speaker 1: Ms Gladys.
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Speaker 2: I'm doing Bye, Porscha, and thank you so much for
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Speaker 2: having me on today.
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Speaker 3: It's an honor to be here.
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Speaker 1: It is, Miss Gladys first starters. What are you grateful
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Speaker 1: for today?
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Speaker 4: Well, I am grateful every day.
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Speaker 2: I'm grateful for being up and alive and talking to
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Speaker 2: you on this podcast today. Just to get up and
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Speaker 2: be able to look out at this beautiful ocean and
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Speaker 2: sun and gorgeous day that's out there today.
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Speaker 1: Excellent, you know, I feel it.
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Speaker 4: I mean, we've we've.
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Speaker 1: Been very spoiled here in Ohio. We had a little
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Speaker 1: bit of snow, but normally we are covered. But we've
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Speaker 1: been very spoilt with some more sunshine. Even though it's
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Speaker 1: been a little chilly, I've been able to still do
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Speaker 1: my leaves even though I have to have on a
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Speaker 1: cot and a scarf. You know what, I'm not complaining, right,
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Speaker 1: you know, miss Gladess. One of the things that I'm
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Speaker 1: curious about with your story, you were running a two
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Speaker 1: billion dollar business, also pivoting a divorce from your husband,
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Speaker 1: who was also diagnosed with colon cancer. Correct, And I'm curious, Gladys,
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Speaker 1: what was that grief journey like for you to be
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Speaker 1: able to integrate your grief of the relationship that you
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Speaker 1: had with your husband and also showing him that grace
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Speaker 1: to become his caregiver during that time.
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Speaker 2: First portion, I think I also mention one other thing
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Speaker 2: that at that same time, my sister passed away, so
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Speaker 2: there was a lot going on in my life at
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Speaker 2: that time. But actually the way that what was really
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Speaker 2: happening there was first and foremost, I still love my
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Speaker 2: husband very much, and my husband still loved me. We
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Speaker 2: were having marital issues, not because caring for each other,
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Speaker 2: but you know, he was going through a crisis, a
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Speaker 2: mental some of the issues that needed attention that we
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Speaker 2: didn't understand yet, and we weren't quite prepared. I mean,
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Speaker 2: we didn't understand those things yet, and it was creating
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Speaker 2: issues in the relationship, with unreliability and.
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Speaker 3: Things at a time in our lives when we.
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Speaker 2: Both needed to be very coordinated to keep all of
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Speaker 2: the balls going in life, and so it was creating issues.
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Speaker 2: And those issues led to me finally thinking that, Okay,
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Speaker 2: I need to file for divorce. It was impacting our lives,
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Speaker 2: the children's lives, and so I need to file for divorce,
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Speaker 2: but not because I didn't love this man. And then
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Speaker 2: right after I filed for divorce, then we learned he
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Speaker 2: has cancer. So as far as I was concerned that,
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Speaker 2: there really was no decision to make, no contemplation there.
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Speaker 3: I was going to meet by his side and get
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Speaker 3: and see him through.
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Speaker 2: Uh, to try and get his health recovered, you know,
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Speaker 2: to try and get his cancer cured.
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Speaker 3: And and and try to.
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Speaker 2: See that he could live a long life. And so
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Speaker 2: that you know that that's what I what I had
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Speaker 2: to do, and it you know, at a time like that,
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Speaker 2: you know, uh, I guess you know, leading through upheaval.
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Speaker 4: I think is a is a term that that I've
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Speaker 4: seen or heard.
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Speaker 2: From you, and it's I think it's a time in
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Speaker 2: your life when you first and foremost, like you mentioned
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Speaker 2: at the top of your show today, first you got
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Speaker 2: to stop and be grateful because no matter how bad
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Speaker 2: it seemed. And trust me, that was what I would
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Speaker 2: call a perfect storm in a person's life going on.
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Speaker 2: I'm the grief of a loss of a loved one,
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Speaker 2: fearing the loss of another loved one, you know, running
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Speaker 2: a business, taking.
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Speaker 3: Care of my kids.
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Speaker 2: But no matter and every day of my life, I
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Speaker 2: do live this way. No matter how bad I think
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Speaker 2: things are for me, there is somebody else in this world,
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Speaker 2: or many others in this world, going through something, if
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Speaker 2: not equally as.
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Speaker 3: Bad worse than I am.
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Speaker 2: So I still look up and I say I'm grateful.
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Speaker 2: I'm thankful, and I have the faith to know that
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Speaker 2: it is you know, as my mother used to always say,
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Speaker 2: this too, shall come to an end. You know, I
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Speaker 2: am going to survive this. I am going to get
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Speaker 2: through this. So I just need to now stop and think,
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Speaker 2: use the wisdom you know, God gave me, and figure
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Speaker 2: out out the best way to do it. And what
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Speaker 2: I say to people is, once you've been Once you
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Speaker 2: stop and you and you've been grateful.
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Speaker 4: Then don't be afraid to ask for help.
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Speaker 2: You know, you may need help from your family, your friends,
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Speaker 2: your colleagues, whatever. Don't be afraid to do that. And
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Speaker 2: then kind of clearly lay out what your goals are.
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Speaker 2: And in my case, in this particular scenario, you know,
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Speaker 2: my goals were pretty clear.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 2: First and foremost, I've got to help my husband on
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Speaker 2: that journey of getting his help back, you know, through
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Speaker 2: you know, cancer treatments, radiation, chemotherapy, surgeries.
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Speaker 3: Whatever, I got help him do that. So that was
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Speaker 3: first and foremost.
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Speaker 2: But then the next priority I had there a goal
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Speaker 2: for me is I've got to help my children understand.
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Speaker 2: But yet I've got to reduce the fear and the
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Speaker 2: anxiety and the stress and make them feel secure, you know.
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Speaker 2: And then I've got to make sure that my team
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Speaker 2: in the work world that they continue to achieve our
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Speaker 2: I mean, get our strategic objectives done. And I think
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Speaker 2: those are the times in your life when trying to
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Speaker 2: be a leader then is not what is the most
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Speaker 2: important thing, And what's more important is that were you
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Speaker 2: a good leader all along? Because see, if you are
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Speaker 2: a good leader up to that point, which is what
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Speaker 2: helped me in this crisis and other crisis in my life,
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Speaker 2: says you've been a good.
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Speaker 3: Leader up to that point.
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Speaker 2: You've been developing your people, developing their skills and their abilities,
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Speaker 2: and you've been allowing them and trusting them to do
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Speaker 2: the things they need to do and not micromanaging them.
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Speaker 3: And you know you've.
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Speaker 2: Treated them well and told them how you know they
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Speaker 2: understand how value they are, how they contribute, and you've
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Speaker 2: earned that respect and support. So when you need them
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Speaker 2: to step up, that's when they got you back.
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Speaker 4: So they got you back.
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Speaker 2: They're going to be there to support you and to
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Speaker 2: help you and step up to manage whatever that gap
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Speaker 2: is and to make it as easy as possible or
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Speaker 2: try to reduce the stress on you because they understand
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Speaker 2: what you're going through and they want to be sure
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Speaker 2: we can come through for you and reduce that stress
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Speaker 2: on you, you know, and I'm not saying, you know,
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Speaker 2: like an abdication of my responsibility as a leader, but
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Speaker 2: they you know, when somebody's got you back, they you know,
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Speaker 2: they're there to say, hey, we've got you and we're
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Speaker 2: going to make this thing as easy as possible and
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Speaker 2: you can count on us to get this done.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 2: So so between that, you know, as I said, always
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Speaker 2: practicing good leadership, and I definitely call them friends and
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Speaker 2: families I couldn't get to you know, I tried to
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Speaker 2: take them to all the most important appointments and things,
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Speaker 2: but if there were times I just couldn't do it
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Speaker 2: because maybe I.
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Speaker 4: Had to travel someplace I called a neighbor, I call
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Speaker 4: a friend.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 4: There maybe times I may even have to get a family.
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Speaker 2: Member to come to town and just stay the weekend
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Speaker 2: because I've got to go, you know, stay a few
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Speaker 2: days because I have to take a trip or whatever.
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Speaker 2: But you wanted to be someone that the children are
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Speaker 2: comfortable with and that you know they're going to have
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Speaker 2: their back the way you would. You know, they'll know
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Speaker 2: how to comfort them and keep them positive and make
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Speaker 2: everybody know everything's going to be all right.
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Speaker 3: You know, right.
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Speaker 1: And you know, miss Gladys, you you touched on something
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Speaker 1: really quick about leadership, right, You really touched on am
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Speaker 1: I a good leader? And how am I replicating that
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Speaker 1: amongst my team where they're able to step up for me?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 1: And also you learning to delegate asking for help, because
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Speaker 1: I think that is the nail in the coffin for
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Speaker 1: so many black women, right. I was told that it
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Speaker 1: was called the strong black woman cape or strong black
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Speaker 1: woman's syndrome.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 1: And I'm curious for you, miss Gladys. What did it
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Speaker 1: take for you to shed that limiting belief to be
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Speaker 1: able to say, you know what, I've got to delegate
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Speaker 1: because I still have a business to run, I have
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Speaker 1: a household to run, still taking care of my husband
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Speaker 1: and the kids. But what did it take for you
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Speaker 1: to delegate or shed that limiting belief of the strong
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Speaker 1: black woman cape and put yourself first to preserve you
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Speaker 1: and keep moving forward.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I guess maybe the situation is I
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Speaker 2: don't think I ever.
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Speaker 4: Wore that cape that said that, you know, being a strong.
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Speaker 2: Black woman meant that I had to do everything myself. Know,
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Speaker 2: I definitely believe we've been a strong black woman you know,
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Speaker 2: we're all.
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Speaker 4: Raised that way. We watch them.
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Speaker 2: You know, you watch your mother, and you watch your grandmother,
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Speaker 2: and you know these are strong black women, and you
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Speaker 2: know you yourself can you know I'm a very resilient person.
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Speaker 2: I can be strong person and those.
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Speaker 4: Sorts of things.
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Speaker 2: But the idea of having to do everything yourself is
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Speaker 2: I guess that's not one that I've ever had.
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Speaker 4: And you know, and to me, being.
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Speaker 2: As I said, being a leader, it is about it's
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Speaker 2: about developing other people and helping them live their potential.
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Speaker 2: And when you and in my book, I spend a
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Speaker 2: lot of time talking about it, I mean, it really
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Speaker 2: was sort of like I had this overwhelming commitment to
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Speaker 2: helping other people succeed. Yes, I was trying to open
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Speaker 2: the door. Yeah, I might've been the first woman most
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Speaker 2: of the time, the first black person or the first
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Speaker 2: black woman.
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Speaker 4: But I was.
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Speaker 2: The whole point is you're opening the door for the
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Speaker 2: others to follow, and you want those that follow the
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Speaker 2: bit to be successful. But I was always a mentor
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Speaker 2: to people. I tried to mentor people, develop people, turn
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Speaker 2: them into you know, great leaders and greater achievers. And
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Speaker 2: that required delegation to me. By definition, if you're a
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Speaker 2: good leader, you are a good delegator because a leader
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Speaker 2: can't do everything themselves, because if you're doing everything yourself,
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Speaker 2: you're not doing your job as a leader of being
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Speaker 2: the one sitting there and thinking strategically figuring out what
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Speaker 2: is the vision, the goals, the objectives, what is our strategy,
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Speaker 2: And you're not doing those things if you're sitting there
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Speaker 2: being the doer all the time. So I think you
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Speaker 2: know you should be doing that all along with your people.
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Speaker 2: But the key to it is, as we know, when
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Speaker 2: you're leading people, it's all about, I mean, how highly
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Speaker 2: your team will perform and how committed they are to
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Speaker 2: what they do and whether they enjoy it and everything else.
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Speaker 4: It really depends.
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Speaker 2: They always say it goes right to the leader, and
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Speaker 2: that is if they respect you, enjoy working with you
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Speaker 2: and for you, and believe in you as a person
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Speaker 2: of integrity. And I always think that that that's the key.
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Speaker 2: They believe that you are a leader of integrity that
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Speaker 2: they can count on and you're going to do the
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Speaker 2: right thing no matter what the situation, no matter how
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Speaker 2: tough the call, whether if it's sacrifice causes you pain
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Speaker 2: or whatever, You're going to do the right thing, and
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Speaker 2: you're going to stand up for them when it's time
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Speaker 2: for somebody to stand up for them. And on those
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Speaker 2: sorts of things, that's when you get committed, a committed,
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Speaker 2: strong team. And if you built a team of team work,
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Speaker 2: which I believe in, you know, you can't have an
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Speaker 2: effective team if people are in silos, on different pages
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Speaker 2: or don't want to be together.
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Speaker 3: You have to build teamwork.
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Speaker 2: And when you have that kind of thing going on,
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Speaker 2: you know, as I said, that's when you know when
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Speaker 2: you say, hey, it's time to go to extra mile people,
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Speaker 2: I need that extra mile that they're willing to do it,
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Speaker 2: you know, and they'll do it for you in a
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Speaker 2: very positive happy to pay you back if you've done
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Speaker 2: many things to help them. You know.
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Speaker 1: No, And Gladys, I'm glad you touched on that. I
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Speaker 1: love how you said being a good leader is also
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Speaker 1: being a good delegator because I think that is what
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Speaker 1: hinders so many entrepreneurs right from expanding their business expanding
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Speaker 1: in other ways right because there's still this mindset of
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Speaker 1: I have to do it all. And I think I
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Speaker 1: had to say a lot of black women are stuck
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Speaker 1: in that mindset of I have to do everything myself
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Speaker 1: because of conditioning. Right. I was raised by a strong
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Speaker 1: line of women, right, and I watched them do it all,
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Speaker 1: and I had to say it. Some of them are
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Speaker 1: sleeping in their grave because of it.
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Speaker 2: Right, You're absolutely right about that. But you know, but
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Speaker 2: the key part of that, though, is, like you mentioned,
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Speaker 2: an entrepreneur, you know, and even if you're in the
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Speaker 2: corporate world or what have you, you have to surround
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Speaker 2: yourself with highly capable, talented people. And that's where a
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Speaker 2: lot of people fall short, you know, one of two ways.
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Speaker 2: Either one you know you're not good or experienced enough
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Speaker 2: and truly identifying great talent their their their skill and
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Speaker 2: technique to identifying and hiring the right people and people
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Speaker 2: who are truly talented and not people who just talk
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Speaker 2: a good game in an interview and then get to
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Speaker 2: work and they can't deliver. Okay, that takes That takes skill,
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Speaker 2: experience and knowledge to know to know how to find
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Speaker 2: those those really good people. But what was the other
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Speaker 2: point I was about to say to you about that
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Speaker 2: we're talking about women wanting to do it all themselves.
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Speaker 4: I lost my train of thought.
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Speaker 3: What was the other thing I was trying to say about.
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Speaker 1: Well and getting the go ahead.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, you know, so when you have to
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Speaker 2: identify the talent and have and have it. But then
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Speaker 2: you've got to demonstrate that mutual trust along the way
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Speaker 2: and actually give people the opportunity to do things. You know,
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Speaker 2: you have to appreciate that other people have stress and
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Speaker 2: talents and what have you, and create opportunities for them,
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Speaker 2: create opportunities for them to utilize them and demonstrate them
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Speaker 2: and grow with them. And when you're doing that again,
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Speaker 2: you begin to see you don't have to do everything
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Speaker 2: by yourself because you're truly building a team of people
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Speaker 2: who have those skills, those and that knowledge. Oh and
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Speaker 2: I know, and the other thought exists for some people.
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Speaker 2: What there's also this fear, and I mentioned this in
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Speaker 2: my book about some bosses, there is this fear that
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Speaker 2: if the people around them more talented than they are,
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Speaker 2: are super talented, that somehow that is going to threaten
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Speaker 2: them and threaten their position. And you know, and I
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Speaker 2: call that short sightedness myself, because you know, if you
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Speaker 2: get the best people you can on your team, and
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Speaker 2: you get those people relatively being you know, being members
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Speaker 2: of your team wanting to be on your team, wanting
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Speaker 2: to help and support.
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Speaker 4: They're only going to make you better. They're going to
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Speaker 4: make you better.
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Speaker 2: They're going to push the organization or the things or
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Speaker 2: the goals or you're the things you're responsible for. They're
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Speaker 2: going to make those things successful, which makes you successful.
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Speaker 2: And as you move you can continue to move them
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Speaker 2: up with you. You know it, We all can move
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Speaker 2: up together, and as other opportunities come up in life,
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Speaker 2: you can help them move only to bigger and better
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Speaker 2: things for themselves, and you know, and just continue to
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Speaker 2: pay it forward type thing. But I do think those
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Speaker 2: things hold some people back, just the fear of the
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Speaker 2: super talented people, or not knowing how to find the
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Speaker 2: super talented people, or not just or not giving them
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Speaker 2: that ability to really grow even once you have them,
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Speaker 2: so they can.
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Speaker 4: Step up for you.
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Speaker 1: Oh one hundred percent, mis gladys. I mean, I think
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Speaker 1: it's a combination of both, right, that fear of especially
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Speaker 1: now that we're in the age of AI, where a
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Speaker 1: lot of people fear that their jobs are being overtaken.
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Speaker 1: But we have to remember that AI is simply a tool, right.
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Speaker 1: The tool can't work with how somebody programming it right,
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Speaker 1: And I think the same thing applies when you're running
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Speaker 1: a business. The business can't run without a leader or
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Speaker 1: you know, we're literally watching i hate to say it
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Speaker 1: a circus without you know, just everything is all over
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Speaker 1: the place. So I'm glad that you really made that point,
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Speaker 1: Miss Gladys. I truly appreciate that. Ms Gladys. We're going
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Speaker 1: to be wrapping up here soon, but before we conclude,
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Speaker 1: for our audience who's tuning in, I'm sure that there's
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Speaker 1: going to be individuals who want to connect with you,
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Speaker 1: who also want to get a copy of your book,
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Speaker 1: Layered Life. How can they connect with you, Miss Gladys.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there are a few ways to do that.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 4: First all, start the easy art.
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Speaker 2: In terms of the book, my book is available on Amazon,
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Speaker 2: Barnes and Noble, any online retailer. In terms of getting
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Speaker 2: information about me, the book and contacting me, you can
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Speaker 2: really do all of that by going to my website,
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Speaker 2: which is simply my name. It's Gladysdepluet dot com. If
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Speaker 2: you go there, they've got the links on there to
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Speaker 2: buy the books, and then it has all, you know,
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Speaker 2: various information, uh you know, about the author, about the book.
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Speaker 4: There's news you know.
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Speaker 2: News articles, articles I've written for a lot of publications
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Speaker 2: and on various topics trying to share and help people.
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Speaker 2: So I've got those articles, I've got media links on there,
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Speaker 2: with a lot more coming.
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Speaker 4: Uh, yours will be on there at the very soon.
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Speaker 2: We'll have a link on there for this particular podcast
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Speaker 2: as well, so you can find all that self.
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Speaker 3: I'm Gladysdecluid dot com.
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Speaker 2: I also have an Instagram Gladys Underscoring the Fluid and yeah,
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Speaker 2: and Amazon has an author page that's another place too.
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Speaker 4: Oh and of course LinkedIn.
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Speaker 1: I'm on LinkedIn excellent, excellent, So everybody, you can literally
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Speaker 1: use Google as your friend to google Gladys d Kluet
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Speaker 1: if you want to find Gladys on LinkedIn. Her book
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Speaker 1: is on Amazon. Also, don't forget Instagram if you're on
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Speaker 1: that platform as well.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 1: Everybody that was miss Gladys Decluid that you heard from
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Speaker 1: today on grew a Portia. And that concludes another episode
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Speaker 1: and until next time, everybody piece and hair grease everyone
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Speaker 4: Once