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Bonus: Screamin’ Jay Hawkins, Kurt & Courtney Conspiracies, and…Constipation? · DISGRACELAND

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  Speaker 1: Hey Discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life?
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after party. Do people actually believe that
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  Speaker 1: Courtney Love killed Kurt Cobain or did they just hate
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  Speaker 1: Courtney Love so much that they cannot accept the fact
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  Speaker 1: that Kurt killed himself? Um, I've asked this question a
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  Speaker 1: couple of times before. The first time it came up,
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  Speaker 1: of course, was when we released originally released our Nirvana episodes,
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  Speaker 1: our two part story. It's basically on Kurt and Courtney. Um,
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  Speaker 1: And we had them in the Rewind feed this past weekend.
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  Speaker 1: And we excerpted parts of that story for some content
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram. And the response has been, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: knew the response was going to be what it was.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know it was going to be as intense
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  Speaker 1: as it was. I know that there's a large group
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  Speaker 1: of people out there who believe what they believe about
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  Speaker 1: Courtney Love. And it's not what I believe, clearly. And
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  Speaker 1: I knew that they were going to be upset by
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  Speaker 1: the fact that we were pointing out this anecdote from
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  Speaker 1: the couple's past where Kurt overdosed. I talked about this
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  Speaker 1: last week in the after party, he overdosed and Courtney
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  Speaker 1: saved his life. Um, the response is not only intense.
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  Speaker 1: This is, again, this is on social media. It's on Instagram. It's,
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  Speaker 1: it's also, it's also pretty hysterical. Um, It's very flattering, guys,
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  Speaker 1: to think that Courtney Love would pay me to do
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  Speaker 1: publicity for her. It's very flattering to think that people
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  Speaker 1: believe that I'm an industry plant. But it is kind
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  Speaker 1: of ridiculous and fascinating. It's more fascinating to me than
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  Speaker 1: it is ridiculous. And it deserves some unpacking. Because... Again,
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  Speaker 1: I've looked at everything out there, including, of course, Soaked
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  Speaker 1: in Bleach, including the new so-called evidence that has come
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  Speaker 1: out over the last 12 to 18 months, whatever it is.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, there's a lot of compelling, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to call it evidence, circumstances, compelling circumstance, excuse me, to
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  Speaker 1: the death of Kurt. there's a lot you could pull
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  Speaker 1: to paint some sort of narrative, some sort of picture
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  Speaker 1: here that points fingers at Courtney Love, but there's no
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  Speaker 1: actual evidence. And if there were, my God, man, don't
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  Speaker 1: you think that Courtney Love would be held accountable? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but hold on. Let's just go back. I'm more interested
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  Speaker 1: in the why, like where this disdain comes from. Now,
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  Speaker 1: on the one hand, I get it. Courtney Love is
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  Speaker 1: an outrageous person. She always has been, even in the
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  Speaker 1: last two decades of her career here, where she hasn't
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  Speaker 1: really been as in the public eye as she was
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  Speaker 1: in the 90s and in the early 2000s. She is
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  Speaker 1: still outrageous, truly. In the truest sense of that word,
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  Speaker 1: she is outrageous. She says things that are meant to
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  Speaker 1: drive you crazy, to get attention. She does truly outrageous things.
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  Speaker 1: I know two people personally who went to her house
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  Speaker 1: and had the same story. She answered the door naked.
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  Speaker 1: And that's just me. I cannot imagine what it's like
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  Speaker 1: for people who actually know Courtney Love. But I'm guessing
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  Speaker 1: that most of the people in the comments section on
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  Speaker 1: our Instagram page do not know Courtney Love. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: also pretty sure that most of the people who are
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  Speaker 1: saying these ridiculous things, making these ridiculous comments, aren't Disgraceland
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  Speaker 1: podcast followers. Some of them are. Most of them are
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  Speaker 1: just Disgraceland Instagram followers. And there's a difference. A lack
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  Speaker 1: of understanding of nuance, I think, is the main difference.
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  Speaker 1: But whatever, that's a different story. My point is, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, amongst those of you who are listening now,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how many of you are as.
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  Speaker 1: Convinced that Courtney Love killed Kurt as a large portion
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  Speaker 1: of people on the internet are. And that's because I
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  Speaker 1: think most of our podcast listeners are, I think you
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  Speaker 1: guys are smart. I think you guys are well-informed and
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  Speaker 1: I think you know how to process information. However, I
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  Speaker 1: do understand because I get the emails that there's some
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  Speaker 1: of you who still think that she did it. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm truly interested in hearing from you and hearing why.
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  Speaker 1: But again, that's the point here. Why? Why do people
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  Speaker 1: think this? Okay, she's outrageous. There's a lot of outrageous
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  Speaker 1: rock stars. Does that make them killers? No, it does not.
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  Speaker 1: But Courtney Love, she just scratches this particular itch for
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  Speaker 1: people that is unique. She's truly hated. And I try
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  Speaker 1: to not hate anybody, like nobody. I just don't believe
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  Speaker 1: in hate. I don't like saying that word. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: trying to get up on a moral high horse here,
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  Speaker 1: but I try to get at like, okay, why is
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  Speaker 1: this person doing this ridiculous stuff? And to me, Courtney
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  Speaker 1: Love just strikes me as a very cold and calculating
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  Speaker 1: Machiavellian type of entertainer, of which there are many in history.
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  Speaker 1: And I know you're hearing these words come out of
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  Speaker 1: my mouth and you're going, dude, listen to what you're saying.
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  Speaker 1: These are the exact qualities of a killer. Well, it
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  Speaker 1: takes a lot to kill somebody and get away with it.
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  Speaker 1: A real lot, especially in the public eye, especially when
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  Speaker 1: you're someone like Courtney Love. Especially when Kurt Cobain is
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  Speaker 1: one of the biggest rock stars in the history of
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  Speaker 1: rock and roll, in the history of pop, in the
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  Speaker 1: history of entertainment. So it just doesn't stand. It just
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  Speaker 1: does not pass the smell test. None of the evidence does.
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  Speaker 1: And I wish I woke up this morning and had
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  Speaker 1: the time to go through all the evidence again and
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  Speaker 1: come here. And maybe that's what I should do. I
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  Speaker 1: should actually– I've been planning on doing this Courtney Love
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  Speaker 1: episode for some time. And I'm waiting for this documentary
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  Speaker 1: to come out so that I have more information, more
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  Speaker 1: of the story. Because I know there's going to be
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  Speaker 1: real revelatory stuff in that film. And it was supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be out. By now, it's not. So I keep
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  Speaker 1: punting this episode down. down the line. But maybe what
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  Speaker 1: I should do instead, maybe what the audience is telling
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  Speaker 1: me here is I should actually litigate the facts in
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  Speaker 1: an episode in a really open-minded way, in a way
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  Speaker 1: that not necessarily to prove my point, but to unpack
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  Speaker 1: my point and pressure test my point. Because I'm truly...
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  Speaker 1: My jaw's on the floor at this reaction. I don't
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  Speaker 1: mean to laugh, but it is kind of funny when
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  Speaker 1: you read these comments. Now, of all the rock stars
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  Speaker 1: throughout history, Courtney Love is singular. But if I had
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  Speaker 1: to choose one rock star to compare her to, and
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  Speaker 1: it has... Nothing to do with her relationship with Kurt Cobain.
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  Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with the death of Kurt
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  Speaker 1: Cobain and how he died. If I had one rock
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  Speaker 1: star to compare Courtney Love to, it would be Sid Vicious.
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  Speaker 1: Courtney Love is a better musician. She's a better songwriter,
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  Speaker 1: of course. But as far as being an entertainer, being
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  Speaker 1: a rock star, behaving like a rock star, Sid is
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  Speaker 1: the best comp. Because Sid was completely outrageous as well
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  Speaker 1: and said things just to get a rise out of
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  Speaker 1: people and just to get attention and all those sort
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  Speaker 1: of things that Courtney, I believe Courtney learned them from
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  Speaker 1: Sid Vicious, from watching Sid Vicious. And there's some irony
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  Speaker 1: here too, because Courtney Love is in Sid and Nancy.
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  Speaker 1: But you don't get, it's interesting because Sid is caught
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  Speaker 1: up in this murder mystery as well with Nancy, but
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  Speaker 1: you do not get this hatred anymore. for Sid that
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  Speaker 1: you get for Courtney Love. And I want to know why.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he did truly outrageous. The guy wore a
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  Speaker 1: swastika for the entirety of his career, okay? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I get the context, okay? So, you know, OG punk rockers,
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  Speaker 1: don't come at me for being critical of that. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just pointing it out. There's a lot. My point is
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  Speaker 1: that there's a lot there with Sid that could drive
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  Speaker 1: you fucking crazy and cause you to be super critical
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  Speaker 1: of the guy and perhaps come up with, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: wild conspiracy theories or not even, I mean, the stuff
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  Speaker 1: with Nancy, it's a stone cold whodunit with Nancy, I think.
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  Speaker 1: And we're going to get into that later as well.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, we touched on Sid and Nancy before, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, if you talk to old school, New York
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  Speaker 1: punk rockers and hardcore kids, they all have a very
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  Speaker 1: clear idea of who killed Nancy. And, um, I'm interested
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  Speaker 1: in unpacking that, but I'm getting off topic. Why don't
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  Speaker 1: people hate Sid Vicious the way that they hate Courtney Love?
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  Speaker 1: What is it? I mean, is it misogyny? Is it
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  Speaker 1: because he's a man, he's not a woman? I don't
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  Speaker 1: think so. I don't think those of you who listen
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  Speaker 1: to this podcast and are disgracing listeners and are convinced
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  Speaker 1: that Courtney Love killed Kurt Cobain, I don't think you're misogynist. Now,
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  Speaker 1: could a large portion of the people in the disgrace
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  Speaker 1: land comments on Instagram. Could that be at the core
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  Speaker 1: of their belief? Perhaps. I don't know. I haven't really
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  Speaker 1: dug into it. Maybe I will. There's just something about her,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe there's not. Maybe I'm looking at it the
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  Speaker 1: wrong way. Maybe it's because there's something about Kurt. Kurt
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  Speaker 1: Cobain is a lot different than Nancy Spungen. Kurt Cobain
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  Speaker 1: is at least for our generation, for Gen X, there
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  Speaker 1: was nobody more important. There was nobody bigger. There was
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  Speaker 1: nobody who reached as many people. There was nobody who
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  Speaker 1: had the cultural impact in music. He was our John Lennon,
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  Speaker 1: our Bob Dylan. He was all of it rolled into one.
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  Speaker 1: And I do think there's something psychologically with music fans
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  Speaker 1: where they cannot let go. I see this with Michael
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  Speaker 1: Jackson fans. I see this with Elvis Presley fans and
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  Speaker 1: I see it with Kurt Cobain fans. It's a little
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  Speaker 1: different than it is with, I don't know, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Lane Staley fans or pick it Tom Petty. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean? Not that those guys weren't great. They were,
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  Speaker 1: they're truly incredible, but they weren't Kurt Cobain, Michael Jackson level.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? And maybe that has something
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  Speaker 1: to do with it. Maybe in the absence of actually
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  Speaker 1: dealing with our sort of icon grief, we cannot accept
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  Speaker 1: the fact that the answer is the answer. We don't
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  Speaker 1: want to accept it because then it prompts another level
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  Speaker 1: of letting go. And if we can hang on to
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  Speaker 1: the I don't want to call it a conspiracy, but
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  Speaker 1: if we can hang on to these, I guess it
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  Speaker 1: is a conspiracy. We can hang on to these alternate theories,
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  Speaker 1: whatever you want to call them about their deaths. We
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  Speaker 1: can keep their, their stories alive and we can, the
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  Speaker 1: myth certainly grows. And maybe that's on some sort of
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  Speaker 1: subconscious psychological level, what's happening here. Or maybe people just
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  Speaker 1: think Courtney Love is a fucking crazy person and, and,
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  Speaker 1: and contains a capacity to, to do something like murder
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  Speaker 1: her husband and get away with it for all these
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  Speaker 1: years publicly, which I have a lot of respect for
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  Speaker 1: Courtney Love. That might shock a lot of you, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't have that level of respect for her cunningness
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  Speaker 1: to think that she could pull that off. But again,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to look into it more fully. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to respect the people who are showing me no respect
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  Speaker 1: in the comments, and I'm going to dig into this
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  Speaker 1: and see if I have some sort of artist bias,
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  Speaker 1: historical bias, whatever type of bias and see if I'm
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  Speaker 1: wrong here. See if, see if I'm going to look
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  Speaker 1: at this information again. I've looked at it. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: Matt really looked at it. He really went at that
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  Speaker 1: dossier of info that came out about 18 months ago.
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  Speaker 1: And we had a big, big talk about it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to even watch fucking soaked in bleach again. And
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  Speaker 1: that knucklehead from the mentors and that whole theory And
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to entertain, I guess, all the stuff about
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  Speaker 1: her dad, even though just because you were associated with
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  Speaker 1: the Grateful Dead does not make you a member of
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  Speaker 1: the CIA. I'm going to look into all of this,
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  Speaker 1: I think. But most important, I want to hear from
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  Speaker 1: you guys. I want to hear from you listeners who
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  Speaker 1: don't normally engage and who think that Courtney killed Kurt.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to know why. And there's no stupid
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  Speaker 1: answer here, okay? There are no stupid questions. There are
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  Speaker 1: no stupid answers. I really want to understand this because
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  Speaker 1: it's some sort of phenomenon that's unique to rock and
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  Speaker 1: roll history. And it's fascinating to me. I thought I
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  Speaker 1: was done with it. I'm not. So there's that. If
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: you're not on Instagram and you're not following Disgraceland at DisgracelandPod,
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  Speaker 1: you want to see what I'm talking about. There's maybe
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  Speaker 1: four posts about Kurt and Courtney over the last week.
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  Speaker 1: And there's one carousel post, which is this post that's
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  Speaker 1: like a series of images of And it's a little
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  Speaker 1: story that we tell along with the images, pictures, and quotes.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the one that really, really got people going.
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  Speaker 1: Check that out. Let me know what you think. And
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  Speaker 1: email me at disgracelandpod. And I want to get into
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  Speaker 1: these theories. I want to get into your thoughts. And
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  Speaker 1: I want them to inform the episode that I'll probably
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  Speaker 1: start to put together within the next sort of four
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  Speaker 1: to six weeks, I'm guessing. And it'll be a straight
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: up whodunit. Obviously, we covered a lot of ground in
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  Speaker 1: the Nirvana story thus far. I'm not going to retread that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just going to get into the actual death and
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  Speaker 1: the theory that Courtney killed Kurt. Now, as outrageous as
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  Speaker 1: this theory is, there are more outrageous theories from rock
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  Speaker 1: and roll history. Truly weird, unhinged, completely ludicrous ideas about
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  Speaker 1: rock stars. I've had my fun with some of these
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  Speaker 1: theories before in the past. The idea that John Denver
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: was one of Vietnam's most prolific American assassins. The idea
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: that Jim Morrison is the Zodiac killer. I kind of
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  Speaker 1: made that up. There's some other ones. The notion, some
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: people think Stevie Wonder can see. Some people think that
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  Speaker 1: Jay-Z is a vampire. We're going to get into you.
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  Speaker 1: some of the more outrageous rockstar conspiracy theories and have
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  Speaker 1: some fun with this in the exclusive section of this episode.
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  Speaker 1: so talking Kurt and Courtney because they're in the Rewind
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  Speaker 1: feed this last week, and then we released our New
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: episode on Screamin' Jay Hawkins this past Tuesday. Coming up
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  Speaker 1: after this after party, guys, we've got a Rewind episode
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: on Eminem. That's going to, now that I think about it,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: that's going to cause some problems as well. But Screamin'
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  Speaker 1: Jay Hawkins fathered 57 children. Did you guys know this?
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  Speaker 1: It's part of rock and roll mythology for sure. And
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  Speaker 1: it's something that came out, I don't know, decade or
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  Speaker 1: two ago. It always fascinated me. 57 children. When Jay
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  Speaker 1: Hawkins died, it was revealed that those children were out
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  Speaker 1: there and most of them were illegitimate and unknown to him.
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  Speaker 1: A friend of his asked Screamin' Jay if he ever
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  Speaker 1: sent his children money and Screamin' Jay responded, well, that's
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  Speaker 1: the mother's problem. Solid dude that he is. Screamin' Jay
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  Speaker 1: Hawkins is one of these guys who bounced between record
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  Speaker 1: labels a as much as he bounced between wives and
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  Speaker 1: girlfriends in one-night stands. And when he was on his deathbed,
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  Speaker 1: he supposedly asked a new friend of his, an investment banker,
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  Speaker 1: to track down all 57 of his children. So the
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  Speaker 1: banker set up a website called jayskids.com and received upwards
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  Speaker 1: of 2,500 submissions from people claiming to be Screamin' Jay Hawkins' progeny.
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  Speaker 1: So approximately one year later, after Screamin' Jay's death, a
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  Speaker 1: total of 36 legitimate children had been identified. But not
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  Speaker 1: one of them went to his funeral. Now, to his
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  Speaker 1: three legitimate children that he knew of, the children that
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  Speaker 1: he had with his first wife, Anna Mae, Screamin' Jay
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  Speaker 1: Hawkins left $ 1 each. This is... fucking crazy. I don't
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  Speaker 1: understand the $ 1 thing. I really don't. Why leave them anything?
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  Speaker 1: Is it just a diss? Is it a way of
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  Speaker 1: being cute? Or was it legitimately a heartfelt, I got
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  Speaker 1: nothing and I want to show them I care? It's
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  Speaker 1: really fascinating to me. Screaming Jay Hawkins is completely fascinating
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: to me. You can hear all about him in the
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: new episode if you haven't already. Perfectly timed for the
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: spooky Halloween season that we have just entered. as is
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: the Eminem episode. Now, Elvis Presley died on the toilet.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Eminem launched his career on the toilet. Gross. I know,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: grosser than the Constipation Blues song we were talking about
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  Speaker 1: last week, but it is true. It was Christmas. It
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: was also Eminem's daughter's birthday, and Em was broke and
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: back in his mom's trailer. And he was constipated and
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  Speaker 1: on the toilet, and he took notice of how skinny
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  Speaker 1: he was, and inspiration struck. Skinny, slim, slim, shady, slim, shady.
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  Speaker 1: He grabbed a nearby pen and notebook and the lines
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  Speaker 1: just flowed out of him page after page of words
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  Speaker 1: that became the song that would help Eminem break through
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: and launch his career. More than that, the Slim Shady
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  Speaker 1: alter ego concept that Em conceived on the can gave
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  Speaker 1: Eminem the creative shield that he needed to explore incredibly
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: dark themes in his raps. Themes that attracted millions of
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  Speaker 1: listeners and led to his 1999 Slim Shady album going
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  Speaker 1: quadruple platinum. And it all started, well, Now you know
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  Speaker 1: where it started. More on Eminem in this upcoming archive
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: episode of the Disgrace Sam podcast. That's hitting this weekend
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: in the feed. Then after that on Tuesday, our new
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: episode on As I Lay Dying. And we're asking the question,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: is this Christian music scene full of phony faith leaders? Now,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Tim Lambisa, singer for the Christian metalcore band As I
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Lay Dying, the front man. This is a band, guys,
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  Speaker 1: that would regularly pray with their fans after shows. Now he,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: this front man, Tim Lambisa of As I Lay Dying,
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  Speaker 1: admitted to being an atheist, and he claimed that the
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: majority of Christian metal bands that he toured with were
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: not actually Christian. What he said was that only 1
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: in 10 of the bands in the scene were actually
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: sincere about their faith, and that the rest were fake Christians. Now,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Tim Lambisa's band, As I Lay Dying, they weren't some
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: fringe act. They were nominated for a Grammy, they released
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: an album that charted in the top 10, and all
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: of that was because of their devoted fans, Christian fans
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: who believed in the band's faith-based message. But the story
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: of Tim Lambesis in As I Lay Dying, it's not
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: just about Christianity and whether or not people are charlatans,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: it's about murder. Because in 2013, Lambesis was arrested after
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: paying an undercover cop disguised as a hitman to kill
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: his wife. Obviously not a very Christian thing to do.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: We get into the story of Tim Lambesis in As
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I Lay Dying and the whole Christian metal scene in
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: the new episode of Disgrace Land. So do not miss that.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: That's coming on Tuesday. And when you're listening to this
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: As I Lay Dying episode, what I want to know
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: from you guys, what music do you listen to that
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: compels you to think about faith? I don't mean something
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: that's converted you to a religion. That's not what I'm saying.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I personally believe that the mystery of faith is something
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: to be contemplated. It's something to be confronted. Okay? And
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: a lot of music has done that for me. I
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: think about Dylan's Christian album, Slow Train of Coming. For
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: some reason, I think of Moby's play. That record always
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: kind of makes me think about my faith and think
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: about faith in general, I should say. I think about
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: gospel bluegrass music. I tend to listen to that a
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: lot on Sunday mornings. And it's all for this reason.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: It's kind of propelling me in this direction to think
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: about faith. So what music does that for you? Is
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: it As I Lay Dying? I don't think so. It's
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: not for me anyways. But what music do you listen
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: to that has pushed you to confront faith, to think
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: about faith? And it's a little heavy, but I don't care. 617-906-6638,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: voicemail and text. Get at me. We'll get into it.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: You might hear yourself in next week's episode of the
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Disgraceland After Party. You can always DM me at DisgracelandPod
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: on the socials as well. DisgracelandPod at gmail.com on email.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. with your answers to
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: last week's question of the week, your voicemails, texts, all
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: that stuff. Hang on. All right, guys, welcome back. Let's
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: get straight into your calls. 617-906-6638, voicemail and text. This
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: one comes from the 903 on the subject of Screamin'
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Jay Hawkins.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Hey, Jake. Adam from Texas, now in Maryland. Excuse me,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Jay Hawkins. I can't help but remember you said that
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: he was addicted to codeine at one point. I can
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: block his bowels, too. So, obviously, he died of a
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: blocked bowel. I would guess the codeine addiction had something
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: to do with it more than anything. But, as you said,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: we don't know because everybody you look, you hear a
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: different story. So, us in our current factory thing, what
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: we feel might be right. Must be right, of course,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: in the way things go these days. Just my only
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: thought on that. Great episode, otherwise. Just insane on the
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: 54 kids. I don't even know what to say about that.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Anyway, love the episode. Love the show. Rock and roll up. Out. Adam,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: thanks for the call, my man. Appreciate you. 54 kids,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: 56 kids, 57 kids, 36 kids. Whatever it was, it
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: was a lot of kids. which is just crazy. And
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I feel for those kids who hopefully some of them
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: found a dad elsewhere somehow. Yeah, the coding, intestinal blockage
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: as well. A lot of intestinal blockage talk over these
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: weeks in this Graceland. Who knows? Who knows how Jay died?
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be ironic if one of his kids did
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: him in? Let's go to Kelly in the 7-8 one. Hey, Jake.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: This is Kelly from the 781. I have not called
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: in a while. I'm sorry.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I was just.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Re-listening to the Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love episodes again,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: and I'm just calling about your question. Did Courtney Love
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: kill Kurt Cobain? And I think absolutely no. And I
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: am down for conspiracy. I think that, as they say
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: on another podcast I listen to, the difference between a
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: conspiracy and the truth is six months. And really, that's
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: how it's been lately with all the craziness. But no,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I have never thought that she killed him. I always
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: thought that was ludicrous. Why would she kill him, number one?
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: What did she gain from that? I mean, she had
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: her own money. She had whatever.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: She loved him.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: She did not kill him. I think that's ridiculous.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Macarola.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Kelly, the voice of reason. Appreciate you calling in. I'm
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: with you. I do not think Courtney Love. Obviously, we
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: talked about this earlier. I want to get into the specifics, though,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to unpack this for the people who
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: do think so. 617-906-6638, voicemail and text. We can keep
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: talking about Courtney Love. We can talk about Jay Hawkins.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: We can talk about anything you want to talk about.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: 302 writes in, and 302 is very angry. Says, Jake,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: my friend, if your question of the week isn't, are
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: you one of Screamin' Jay's kids, then we as a
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: disgraced land society don't deserve shit. I don't quite understand
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: what that means, 302, but a lot of passion there.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Are you one of Screamin' J's kids?
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: 617-906-6638.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Voicemail and text. Get back and let me know. 405
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: writes in, after a long hiatus that life often imposes
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: on us all, I have had a lot of catching
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: up to do. And while I'm late to the game,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: I had an existential experience in listening to your piece
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: on Patti Smith. I listen to a lot of podcasts
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: and you always bring your A game, but your work
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: on Patti Smith took me to a place in my
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: mind in the universe that is only reserved when that
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: rare moment of clarity hits. You recently spoke of the
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: new mediums for good writers and your episode on Patti
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Smith is up there with the great pieces. And wow,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: thank you. In modern, that's me saying thank you. Goes
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: on to say, is up there with the great pieces
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: in modern pop culture literature in the New Yorker, Rolling Stone,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: and those other magazine rack grabs that molded the youth
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: of the 1970s, 80s, and 90s. Don't stop writing. Rockarola,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: the Notorious R.D.G. from the 405. Notorious R.D.G. Thank you
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: so much. Really cool of you to say. I appreciate that. Yeah,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: that episode was nominated for a Signal Award. If you
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: guys want Disgraceland to win, as I do, because like
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I said, once you get nominated for an award, it's
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: a double-edged sword. You don't want to lose. I hate
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: fucking losing. I don't like the concept of, oh, it's
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: just nice to be considered. Fuck that. I want to win.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: So help me win. Help us win. Go to the website, SignalAward.com.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Big button right there. Click vote now. You can find
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Disgraceland nominated for Best Writing and Best Music. Thank you,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Matt Bowden. Thank you, Sean Cahalan. Thank you, Ryan Spraker,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: for all the amazing work you guys do on the
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: music for Disgraceland. And I like that you're being acknowledged
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: here as well as my writing. And thanks for the
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: kind words. I really appreciate it, RDG. That is, you know,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I'm humbled. I truly am. Helltown Mark from the 978
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: writes in, hey, didn't really expect to be adding a
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: blues song about constipation today, but here we are. And
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: there's a screenshot of Helltown Mark's phone where he's selecting
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Constipation Blues and adding it to the Disgraceland Songs playlist. Mark,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: do me a favor and call in and leave us
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: a voicemail. You're great on the text, but I want
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: a voicemail and I want you to explain to the
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: people what this is so that I can explain it
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: more fully. I'm getting hit up on Instagram. People are
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: asking about this playlist and I want to let them
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: know exactly what it is and where they can find it. Um, uh,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: this is, uh, an ongoing thing. I get at least
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: one message per week. So call back 617-906-6638 voicemail and text.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: 416 writes in on our Quincy Jones episode. Hey, great
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Q episode. I really identified with what you said at
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the after party episode all throughout high school.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I was told you're going to become a writer. You're
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: going to write stuff. What did I do? I became
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: a clinical psychologist, researcher, and professor. Turns out I write
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: for a living. It started with the BA, the MA,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: the PhD dissertation. When people say, oh, you're a psychologist,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: what do you do? I reply, paperwork. I see my
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: job as trying to tell the client's story through these
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: very long reports, but I tell them that my job
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: is not to get it right. My job is to
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: get it right for them. Now, of course, people tell
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: me I should have a podcast because I love telling stories.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: This is the way of the world now. This is
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: how you get your stories out. This is how you
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: speak your truth about life. Rock-a-rola. Well, Jason in the 416,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: this is a Very interesting text. You sound highly educated
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: and I'm glad that you're getting your money's worth and
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: that you finally became a writer in a roundabout way,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: just like I did. It's crazy how these things happen.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: 617-906-6638. Voicemail and text. Get at me. Leave a voicemail.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I'll a text. Recommend some episodes. Give me your answers
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: to the question of the week. What music inspires you
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: to confront or contemplate your faith? I know it's heavy,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: but who gives a shit? Let's get into it. We
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: know each other. We've known each other for a while.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: It's been a while since I've been out there. And
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I'm getting out there, getting out there in the new year.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: It's going to happen. Get this cruise planned and we're
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: going to be staging a live version of Disgraceland. Haven't
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: done a live show in a while. We're going to
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: be doing it on a ship. Version voyages. Zeth and
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I going to be taping, filming, perhaps a live episode
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: of the Disgraceland podcast and after party. And we need
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: you there. Okay. We're going to make this disco centric.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: This cruise does not happen until March 20th, 2027. So
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: you got some time and this would make just a
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: fantastic Christmas present. Okay. For you and your girlfriend, boyfriend, wife, husband, whatever, buddy, pal.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know. You're just Graceland fans. Just come on out.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: And if you order now, if you book now, I
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: should say, you can score up to a thousand bucks
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: in savings, 70% off. 70% off your, what they're calling
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: second sailor. It sounds fun. Not as fun as the
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: first sailor. I imagine that means the person you're going
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: with gets 70% off and you get a $ 300 onboard
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: credit that I'm sure you can put towards all kinds
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: of stuff on the ship. Go to virginvoyages.com slash true
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: crime and grab your spot. This is going to sell out.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: This is March 20th, 2027. We're sailing out of Miami.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: And we're heading to Grand Turk. It's going to be
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: five nights. And it's not just going to be me.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: It's going to be me and Zeth, like I said.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: But it's also going to be the Buried Bones podcast.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: That's an Exactly Right Network podcast. And it's going to
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: be Wisecrack. Wisecrack is the podcast of the year, last year.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Very big show. Again, Five Night Cruise begins March 20th, 2027.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: There'll be all kinds of stuff going on besides the show.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be hanging out. Zeth's going to be
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: hanging out. me all kinds of true crime themed happenings
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: on board, podcast recordings, behind the scenes sessions, meet and greets,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. Again, you book now, you're going to
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: get $ 1, 000 in instant savings, 70% off your second sailor,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: which is not your first mate, and up to $ 300
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: of on board credit. Okay. Go to www.virginvoyages.com slash true crime,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: book your ticket, book passage as they say, pick out
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: a good Hawaiian shirt, and let's get into this. All right,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I will be back in a flash with your emails.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. All right, guys, disgracelandpod at gmail.com. Hit
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: me with your emails. This one comes from Neil Gillis.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Neil Gillis, the subject is ranking dread episode. Suggestion, ranking dread.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Story has everything. Sound system, clashes, political riots, fleeing multiple countries,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: bringing the yards from Jamaica to the UK, Canada, and US.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: And he made great music. Tell me Fatty Boom Boom
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: is not great music. Rock-a-rola. Ranking dread. Neil, I am.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Embarrassed to say, I don't know what the hell you're
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: talking about, but the passion in this email is such
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: that I'm going to note it and I'm going to
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: put this on the list. This is something that sounds
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: like it would allow us, I need a way into
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Jamaican music that is not Bob Marley or Peter Tosh.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: And this sounds like it might be it. And I'm
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: very interested. Robbie Thringwright saying, hey, Jake, it's your neighbor
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: in the upstairs apartment. Have you, what, what the fuck
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: are you talking about? Robbie goes on to say, have
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: you watched Last Stop yet? And no, it's not a
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Western or an old TMC classic. Think more along the
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: lines of Tarantino. Just watch it. I guarantee you'll like it.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: If you don't, I'll buy you a pint of moose
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: head next time you're in Toronto. Also, oh, I get
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: upstairs apartment. Now I get he's in Canada. Robbie, I
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: like how you did that. I like how you did that.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: You didn't explain it. Robbie goes on to say, also
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: another point, I just discovered this band, the Silver Apples
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: from 1968. They sound like nothing from that era. They
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: were so far ahead of their time. It's incredible. They
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: were a synth rock band before there was synth. Anyhow,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: check them out after you've watched The Last Stop. Cheers
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: from the 519 in Waterloo, Canada. Love these recommendations. You
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: guys are killing it this week. Robbie, great job. Silver Apples,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I've heard of them. Never checked them out, but I'm
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: excited to check them out and do that today, actually. 1968, huh?
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Synth before there was synth. And The Last Stop. You
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: didn't give me much to go on here, but... I
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: don't know. There's something about the way you wrote this
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: that I feel like you're a guy I need to
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: pay attention to, Robbie. So I'm going to check out
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: the last stop. All right. At least I'm going to
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: talk to Zeth about it. See if he's got a take.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: And then I'll dive in. Maybe. Perhaps. I think. Let's see.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: In any event, I really appreciate the message. Disgracelandpod at gmail.com.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: You guys want to hit us up about anything over email,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: that's the way to do it. Heather the Yinzer on
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Patreon writes, Hey, what happened to the old rock stars
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: with no fucks to give content? Well, I don't really know.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I'm reading this comment out of context, so it's hard
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: for me to tell Heather, but I'm going to look
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: into that. Pete on Patreon writes, Feast of the Mau
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Mau makes I Put a Spell on You sound like
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: a Celine Dion jam. Feast of the Mau Mau is
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: a Screamin' Jay Hawkins song, for those of you who
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: are interested. Thank you, Pete. Tim on Patreon writes in, hey,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: is it me or does this episode just sound different?
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: More natural, less bass or decibels or something. Sounds good,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: just different.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Tim, maybe it's your settings or maybe Matt did something different. Matt,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: did you do something different? Let us know. All right, guys,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: it's October. We're nearing the end of the year. We
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: got to get together and figure out what episodes we
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: are going to produce for next year. This is talking
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: directly to the discos who are part of the Sound
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: and Fury community. membership in our All Access Club. We've
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: got a episode of this film we have to produce
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: next week. Perhaps we can hook something up for the
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: week after for a Zoom where we can all jump
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: on and you can bring your recommendations and we can
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: have a more of a sort of organized discussion about
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: what we want to produce for next year. We can
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: get into that more fully Zeth and I will have
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: some information in the Patreon in the coming days about
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: when we're going to do this. In the meantime, start
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: thinking about what episodes you want us to produce. Come
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: to this Zoom prepared. Just like Zeth Lundy comes to
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: the Hollywoodland feed every week prepared. He's talking to you
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: guys in the wrap party, as am I with our recommendations.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: He's talking to you in the screening room, setting up
• 36:55
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• 36:57
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• 37:10
  Speaker 1: next episode on this film should be played loud. It's Halloween.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: So we're going to be doing Shaun of the Dead,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: which was a recommendation from a bunch of you guys
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: over on Patreon. Like I said, we're going to be
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: filming that next week, I believe. Yeah, next week, I think.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Coming up though, that's coming up end of the month.
• 37:31
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• 37:33
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• 37:35
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• 37:38
  Speaker 1: should be played loud. That's our monthly video podcast. You're
• 37:42
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  Speaker 1: Before we do, just your weekly reminder that we have
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's recap before we get out of here.
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  Speaker 1: Number one, this week, our new episode on Screaming Jay Hawkins.
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  Speaker 1: That's available for you to listen to right now. Number two,
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  Speaker 1: in the rewind slot this weekend, our classic episode on Eminem.
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  Speaker 1: Number three, next week coming at you, our new episode
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  Speaker 1: on As I Lay Dying. Four, Seth's going to give
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  Speaker 1: you those Hollywood and crime vibes in the Hollywoodland feed.
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  Speaker 1: So make sure that you're subscribed. And I'll be giving
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  Speaker 1: you my music recommendations over there in the wrap party.
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  Speaker 1: Number five, this film should be played loud. Our video
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  Speaker 1: along with ad free listening. Number six, six, one, seven, nine, oh, six, six, six, three, eight.
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  Speaker 1: Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of
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  Speaker 1: music history. So keep calling, keep texting with your answers
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  Speaker 1: to this week's question of the week or whatever else
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  Speaker 1: you want to talk about. Number seven, don't forget discos.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't just content. It's a community, a community of
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  Speaker 1: the obsessed. And no one cares about music books, records,
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  Speaker 1: and the crime and grime that ties them all together
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  Speaker 1: like you do. And well, that's a disgrace. All right,
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  Speaker 1: back on February 12, 2000, Screamin' Jay Hawkins died. And
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  Speaker 1: this is what America was listening to on that day,
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  Speaker 1: according to the Billboard charts. Number one, I Knew I
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  Speaker 1: Loved You, Savage Garden. Last week, one. Peak position, one.
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  Speaker 1: Weeks on chart, 17. Number two, Thank God I Found You,
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  Speaker 1: Maria Carey featuring Joe in 98 Degrees. Last week, 22.
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  Speaker 1: Peak position, two. Weeks on chart, Montana. Number three, What
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  Speaker 1: a Girl Wants, Christina Aguilera. Last week, two. Peak position, one.
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  Speaker 1: Weeks on chart, 12. Number four, Get It On Tonight,
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  Speaker 1: Montel Jordan. Last week, five. Peak position, four. Weeks on chart,
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  Speaker 1: last week. Number five. Quit talking and start mixing.
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  Speaker 3: Cut it.