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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to this live edition of Fair Territory.
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Speaker 1: I am your host, Alana Rizzo, welcoming our guest, Jesse Rogers.
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Speaker 1: Of course you've seen him all over Major League Baseball,
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Speaker 1: primarily with ESPN and does a great job covering all
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Speaker 1: thirty teams. He's going to break down Game two of
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Speaker 1: the ALCS the beginning of the NLCS. Jesse, great to
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Speaker 1: be with you, But there is some breaking news out
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Speaker 1: of San Diego. It has been reported that Mike Schildt
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Speaker 1: has announced his retirement from managing the Padres. This is
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Speaker 1: per Kevin Ace of the San Diego Union. Tell me
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Speaker 1: more about what you know about this. It's interesting though,
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Speaker 1: the wording, my friend not retiring as a manager, but
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Speaker 1: retiring as manager of the Friars.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not using the language like quitting or stepping away.
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Speaker 2: I mean retiring from the manager of the Padres is
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Speaker 2: curious wording. So have to figure that out. I actually
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Speaker 2: know Mike well, as a lot of people do, and
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Speaker 2: this one a surprise to me. So there's got to
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Speaker 2: be more to this story than just that statement. Right,
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Speaker 2: So we'll find out. This team came up short in
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Speaker 2: the playoffs, but they made the playoffs, had really good
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Speaker 2: back to back seasons under Mike Schildt. He's done a
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Speaker 2: good job there, but they didn't get past those first
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Speaker 2: couple rounds, so we'll have to see.
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Speaker 3: It's a bit surprising.
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Speaker 2: But in San Diego, you know, we had changes ever
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Speaker 2: in the win there with Aj Preller in charge, but
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Speaker 2: we really got to get to the bottom of what
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Speaker 2: that wording actually means, Alana. So I think it's really
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Speaker 2: a surprise to people around baseball. Look, there's a lot
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Speaker 2: of managerial jobs open, so there's you know, not that
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Speaker 2: many great managers out there. According to general managers, he
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Speaker 2: was at least a good one that had good seasons.
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Speaker 3: So this is a bit surprising. But there's got to
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Speaker 3: be more to this story.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can read the story from Kevin ac
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Speaker 1: of the San Diego Union Tribune. He's the one that
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Speaker 1: broke the story, Jesse. And it's interesting though, because Mike
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Speaker 1: Schilt is walking away from a contract that has two
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Speaker 1: years remaining, citing a quote severe toll unquote the job
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Speaker 1: has taken on him quote mentally and physically. I mean,
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Speaker 1: people think, oh, San Diego a great place to live,
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Speaker 1: but with that expectation of a j Priller at the helmet.
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Speaker 1: Of course, with the recent passing of their former owner
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Speaker 1: Peter Sidler, you have to wonder if the expectation was
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Speaker 1: just too much. What's your take on the fact that
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Speaker 1: he's walking away citing mental and physical toll.
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Speaker 2: I just covered him in the playoffs in the first
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Speaker 2: round against the Cubs, and I was in on those
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Speaker 2: meetings because I was doing the sideline reporting, and yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's stressful. It's stressful, but he seemed to enjoy it.
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Speaker 2: But you never know what's going on in a person's personal life.
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Speaker 2: When it comes to this grind that these guys go on,
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Speaker 2: it takes a toll.
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Speaker 3: It absolutely takes a toll.
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Speaker 2: I was joking within a GM recently about you know,
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Speaker 2: being away from your wife during during the playoffs and mentioned,
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Speaker 2: you know, we were talking about the husband Hall of Fame,
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Speaker 2: and the response was, is any husband in the Hall
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Speaker 2: of fame? When it comes to baseball? Like, if you're
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Speaker 2: in the sport, it's tough, it's tough. So yeah, it's
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Speaker 2: it's it's a grind, and I guess we none of
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Speaker 2: us should be shocked if someone steps away from from
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Speaker 2: from the daily grind. As good as those jobs are
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Speaker 2: as much as he wanted to do it again after
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Speaker 2: what happened in Saint Louis.
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Speaker 3: I think anybody in the sport can relate to the
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Speaker 3: stress and the grind of it all.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm surprised most of us have not been dfaed.
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Speaker 1: Those that cover us cover this sport on a daily basis, Jesse.
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Speaker 1: Switching our focus now to the Alcs. Obviously, Game one
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Speaker 1: was last night. The Mariners take the win in Game
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Speaker 1: one against the Jayson Thank you just drew a blank there.
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Speaker 1: So obviously the Blue Jays looking to even things up tonight.
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Speaker 1: What was your biggest takeaway from Game one?
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Speaker 3: Oh, that's easy. The fact that the Mariners won.
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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, you're not supposed to win that
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Speaker 2: game fifteen innings, two nights before flying across the country there.
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Speaker 2: You're supposed to give that game away. You're supposed to
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Speaker 2: punt that game. They didn't do that, and it certainly
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Speaker 2: looked like they would in the first inning. Bryce Miller
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Speaker 2: settled down. He was the star of that game easily.
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Speaker 2: Of course cal Rawley did his thing. But the fact
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Speaker 2: that they just won that game is such a boost.
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Speaker 2: It's so obvious. I mean, Blue Jays need to win
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Speaker 2: today or you can pretty much call it because the
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Speaker 2: boost Seattle will get if they sweep there will be amazing.
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Speaker 3: So that's it to me, Just the fact that they.
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Speaker 2: Grinded out a win, just, you know, a little while
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Speaker 2: after celebrating the fifteen inning affair in the Alds amazing,
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Speaker 2: amazing stuff by Bryce Miller after giving up that leadoff
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Speaker 2: home run.
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Speaker 1: Honestly, Jesse, when Bryce Miller gave up the leadoff home
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Speaker 1: run to George Springer on the first pitch, I was like,
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Speaker 1: oh jeez, that obviously didn't take long. But you're like,
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Speaker 1: here you go for the Mariners, their woes, and then
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Speaker 1: they lose Lucas and the you know, the first app
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Speaker 1: bat there looks like he's going to be okay, right,
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Speaker 1: neat contusion as far as that concerned. What's the most
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Speaker 1: impressive thing about the Mariners coming back and winning that game.
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Speaker 1: I know you talked about the fatigue from the fifteen
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Speaker 1: inning game prior, but just it seems like this has
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Speaker 1: been a resilient bunch. I know we throw that word
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Speaker 1: around a lot, but what's the most impressive thing?
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Speaker 2: Well, the fact that they did it and I think
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Speaker 2: one hundred pitches after Bryce Miller threw twenty seven in
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Speaker 2: the first inning, they just mowed him down after that.
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Speaker 2: This was a Blue Jays offense that was on fire
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Speaker 2: against the Yankees, on fire in the second half of
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Speaker 2: this season, and it just kind of disappeared after that
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Speaker 2: Springer homer. It just goes to show you and never
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Speaker 2: known baseball, but to finish throwing one hundred pitches after
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Speaker 2: twenty seven came in that first inning with a pitching
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Speaker 2: staff that was, you know, by definition tired after fifteen
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Speaker 2: innings and five games against the Tigers.
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Speaker 3: I thought that was the most amazing thing.
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Speaker 2: And then most of the credit goes to Bryce Miller,
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Speaker 2: but also the relief corps that finished off that game
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Speaker 2: as well.
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Speaker 3: So many stolen.
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Speaker 2: Right out from underneath the Toronto Blue Jays who got
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Speaker 2: off to that great start with the Springer homer, but
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Speaker 2: just could not muster anything after that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, after that first inning with Nathan Lukes and Bryce
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Speaker 1: Milliger thinking oh, no, here we go, but the Mariners
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Speaker 1: getting the job done?
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Speaker 3: Are you?
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Speaker 1: Does the fact that John Snyder took Kevin Gossman out
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Speaker 1: when he did, does that give you any sort of pause?
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Speaker 1: What was your take on that?
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Speaker 3: It doesn't. It doesn't. And look, it's so interesting.
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Speaker 2: A lot of managers during the regular season are being
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Speaker 2: reactive most of the time. In the postseason, they have
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Speaker 2: to be proactive by definition. These are short series, especially
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Speaker 2: the best of three and best of five, best of seven.
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Speaker 2: Little different, maybe a little different, but you have to
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Speaker 2: make the move before your pitcher gets into deep trouble,
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Speaker 2: before he gives up runs, or in the regular season
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Speaker 2: you can react to it. It's just a different animal.
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Speaker 2: And look, he gave up the home run, he gave.
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Speaker 3: Up a walk.
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Speaker 2: The walk after the home run is telling to me.
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Speaker 2: The pitch to Raleigh was you know, it wasn't the
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Speaker 2: best split. So so again, is he tiring a little bit?
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Speaker 3: The walk? I get it. I totally get it. Now.
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Speaker 2: The reliever after him didn't didn't perform, and you're gonna
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Speaker 2: second guess. But I understand being proactive. The first sign
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Speaker 2: of trouble by your start when he gets to the
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Speaker 2: fifth or sixth inning. These days, managers are going to
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Speaker 2: make the move. And you understand why. There's there's no
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Speaker 2: tomorrow essentially, even though there's a few games left, like
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Speaker 2: every game is so important, so I don't have a
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Speaker 2: problem with it. Maybe in another scenario I will have
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Speaker 2: a problem with it. But the walk after the home
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Speaker 2: run is what's telling to me. One pitch is one thing,
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Speaker 2: but then when you give up a free pass right
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Speaker 2: after that, that's that's to me that Okay, let's be
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Speaker 2: proactive about this, not reactive.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, quick hooks in the postseason, I understand exactly what
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Speaker 1: you're saying. Focusing now on the NLCS Jesse Rodgers, the Brewers,
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Speaker 1: of course, the host against the reigning champion Dodgers. This
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Speaker 1: is a Brewers team Jesse that's been unbelievable all season long,
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Speaker 1: best record in baseball. They've dominated the National League wire
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Speaker 1: to wire essentially, and they had the season series sweep
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Speaker 1: against the Dodgers in the regular season. Does that trickle
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Speaker 1: its way into the postseason six and oher in the
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Speaker 1: regular year?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely not. It has nothing to do with it. The
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Speaker 2: Dodgers were banged up, some of their pitchers weren't even
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Speaker 2: on the roster at the time. The only thing it
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Speaker 2: might do is give some Brewers hitters some confidence against
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Speaker 2: some pitchers they faced already, or maybe as a team
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Speaker 2: you feel confident because you beat them a few times
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Speaker 2: in the regular season.
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Speaker 3: But honestly, it means nothing.
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Speaker 2: I covered the Cubs and Mets in twenty fifteen. The
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Speaker 2: Cubs went seven in oh in the regular season against
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Speaker 2: the Mets, and then in the postseason they lost four nothing.
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Speaker 3: It really doesn't matter now.
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Speaker 2: It helped them win the season series and then the
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Speaker 2: best record in baseball because of they went six to
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Speaker 2: zero against the Dodgers, gave them home field advantage.
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Speaker 3: So it wasn't meaningful at the time, But in.
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Speaker 2: Terms of a carryover effect, a lot of it really
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Speaker 2: has nothing to do with it.
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Speaker 1: And the Dodgers get Blake Snell in Game one, Yoshinobu
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Speaker 1: Yamamoto in Game two. I feel, Jesse that this is
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Speaker 1: the first time all season and it's the most important
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Speaker 1: time that the Dodgers starting staff has been all together
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Speaker 1: and all healthy. How much does that factor into the
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Speaker 1: championship series.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of wild.
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Speaker 2: If you go back to early in the season, the
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Speaker 2: Dodgers had no starting pitching but plenty in the bullpen
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Speaker 2: before those guys kind of faltered and got hurt. The Brewers,
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Speaker 2: especially when they got healthy, had a ton in the
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Speaker 2: starting staff when they included Priest and Woodriff came back,
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Speaker 2: but now they're a little thin there, but have this
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Speaker 2: great bullpen. It's reversed itself. And the fact that they
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Speaker 2: can just pitch Otani one start back in La don't
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Speaker 2: need him to, you know, stretch him as a starter
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Speaker 2: or reliever and try to do crazy things with him,
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Speaker 2: is telling to me, just give him his one start
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Speaker 2: and let him hit the rest of the series because
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Speaker 2: they have enough now with klas Now Andy, I'm a Moto.
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Speaker 3: And Snow so yeah.
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Speaker 2: I find it fascinating that the Borer's strength is their pen,
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Speaker 2: the Dodger strength as their starting staff and let's see,
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Speaker 2: you know, let the best man win, depending on how
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Speaker 2: that all works out. But it's it's gonna be a
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Speaker 2: tough task for those Burers hitters against the Dodger staff
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Speaker 2: coming together.
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Speaker 1: Joe Hey, O'tani not starting in at least the first
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Speaker 1: two games, and there's been a bit of an offensive
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Speaker 1: slump for the greatest guy in the game, Jesse Rodgers,
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Speaker 1: When you're talking about Otani, does that make you scratch
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Speaker 1: your head a little bit? What are you seeing in
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Speaker 1: his at bats? Should Dodgers fans be concerned?
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Speaker 3: I don't think so.
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Speaker 2: Look, there's a lot of guys through four or six
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Speaker 2: or eight postseason games that struggle.
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Speaker 3: Not a lot of rhyme or reason to it.
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Speaker 2: I guess if you added up ten octobers in a
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Speaker 2: row for a guy, you know, that's a sample size. Sure,
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Speaker 2: but my feeling, and I guarantee you this is what
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Speaker 2: the Brewers are feeling. Okay, he was slumping, then we're
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Speaker 2: in trouble now.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 2: It's kind of like that guy that has a bad
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Speaker 2: string training watch out and the con versus true. If
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Speaker 2: you're great in March, you're usually bad in April. So
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Speaker 2: I think that's the only way to look at this.
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Speaker 2: I picked him for the MVP of the series simply
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Speaker 2: because he did slump. How long is he going to slump?
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Speaker 2: It's probably not going to be for two more series
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Speaker 2: or even one more, so I don't see anything in
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Speaker 2: his bats inherently that would cause that much concern. But
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Speaker 2: let's see one more series and then you might say, well, wow,
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Speaker 2: this is an extended slump. So I think he comes
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Speaker 2: out of it. I don't know if it's tonight, but
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Speaker 2: certainly in this series.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a hard man to keep down for long.
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Speaker 1: His countrymen and teammate Roki Sasaki. Jesse is this man
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Speaker 1: at the closer that the Dodgers fans didn't know they needed.
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Speaker 1: I swear he was gone for six months. Nobody knew
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Speaker 1: where he was. That two pitch pitcher has come up
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Speaker 1: big and has paid huge dividends in the pen. What
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Speaker 1: do you make of it?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you love about baseball, right, you never know?
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Speaker 2: They signed Tanner Scott, they signed Kirby, spend so much
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Speaker 2: money and it's this rookie, young rookie rookie Sasaki who
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Speaker 2: is supposed to be a starter that's in there. And
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Speaker 2: I know that they do not want to pitch a
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Speaker 2: multiple innings.
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Speaker 3: Like they had to the other day.
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Speaker 2: I think they really just want one inning and save
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Speaker 2: the arm, be careful with it and all that stuff.
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Speaker 3: Amazing.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what two pitch pitchers really are meant for,
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Speaker 2: is the bullpen and maybe even closing. But obviously he's
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Speaker 2: good enough and to start in the major leagues and
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Speaker 2: he'll develop as a starter. But I think it's a
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Speaker 2: brilliant idea. I mean, I think it's a brilliant idea.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't really stretched out. Let's put him in the
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Speaker 2: back end. We don't have anybody back there right now,
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Speaker 2: and let's rock and roll. He's still an unknown in
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Speaker 2: this league. That stuff is so new. Hitters are having
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Speaker 2: a tough time picking up, And you know, I was
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Speaker 2: talking to a veteran who said, yeah, sometimes playoff experience
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Speaker 2: is great, but there's also the other side of the coin,
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Speaker 2: when you're kind of young and dumb, that's fun too.
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Speaker 2: You don't know any better, and I don't think Sasaki
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Speaker 2: knows the ninth inning is supposed to be that difficult.
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Speaker 3: So I love the move. It's pretty cool.
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Speaker 1: What to start. Contrasts from the time in which he
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Speaker 1: was in the Dodgers dugout crying after a bad outing
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Speaker 1: and being really emotional to striking out j t rail
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Speaker 1: Muto to move on, Jesse, Let's brag on the Brewers
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Speaker 1: a little bit. The average joes they are not. What
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Speaker 1: is the role of Jacob Mazerowski in the cs oh.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's going to get a ton of innings.
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Speaker 2: Whether he starts in the first inning or comes in
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Speaker 2: in the second remains to be seen. Not a big difference, right,
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Speaker 2: He's going to pitch four to five innings each time out,
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Speaker 2: and that's the deal. Just depends on the setup, if
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Speaker 2: they want him to avoid Otani in the first inning
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Speaker 2: or whatnot.
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Speaker 3: But boy, that's an electric arm and he's able to
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Speaker 3: harness it.
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Speaker 2: I think it's no coincidence that his two postseason appearances
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Speaker 2: both came at home, and I think they'd like to
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Speaker 2: use most of his bulk innings at home if possible.
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying they won't use him on the road,
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Speaker 2: but I could understand him being avoided at Wrigley Field.
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Speaker 2: So I think tonight is a good opportunity, or I
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Speaker 2: should say, in the next couple of days. But it
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Speaker 2: doesn't mean he won't pitch in LA I just think
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Speaker 2: he's more comfortable at home. Sort of harness that and
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Speaker 2: use the crowd to his advantage. But he'll start or
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Speaker 2: get some bulke innings in one of these early games
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Speaker 2: and they'll go from there. But what an arm, what
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Speaker 2: a talent, and if he could continue to harness it.
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Speaker 2: You know, his last outing against the Cubs, first time
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Speaker 2: in seventeen appearances, he did not issue a walk.
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Speaker 3: I mean this was four hintings too. It wasn't just
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Speaker 3: a onedning stint.
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Speaker 2: So I mean, if he's not issuing walks and he's
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Speaker 2: dotting at one hundred.
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Speaker 3: Watch out at guy's a weapon.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty twenty five All Star the Miz. We'll see
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Speaker 1: him come up big, hopefully for the Brewers in this series.
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Speaker 1: Coming up here on Fair Territory with Jesse Rogers today,
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Speaker 1: our special guest Ken Rosenthal is honestlim but we're going
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Speaker 1: to go with Jesse talking about the Cubs, the inside dish,
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Speaker 1: what went wrong, and what does their offseason look like.
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Speaker 3: Where where where were.
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Speaker 1: Time now for Inside Dish with Jesse Rogers. And I know, Jesse,
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Speaker 1: you cover all thirty teams for ESPN, but you spend
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Speaker 1: a lot of times, a lot of time covering the
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Speaker 1: Cubs and the White Sox in your home base of Chicago.
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Speaker 1: What went wrong with the Cubs in terms of the postseason,
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Speaker 1: if you will, And what does their offseason look like
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Speaker 1: in your estimation?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of interesting a lot.
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Speaker 2: I actually think they reached their ceiling, like winning a
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Speaker 2: playoff series, getting to Game five and losing on the road.
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Speaker 2: And I do think even though five of their nine
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Speaker 2: regular hitters hit under two hundred in the postseason, like
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Speaker 2: that's gonna happen. You're gonna have your good moments and
16:45
Speaker 2: bad moments. Offensively, it was a good offense it. It
16:49
Speaker 2: was a great offense early and then just not as
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Speaker 2: great second half, but in general, it is what it
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Speaker 2: is offensively.
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Speaker 3: I actually think they were short.
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Speaker 2: On the mountain and they didn't prepare for this at
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Speaker 2: the trade deadline in particular, and maybe even going back
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Speaker 2: to last offseason. Now, you can't manage every injury like
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Speaker 2: Justin Steele went down early. You can't use that excuse
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Speaker 2: in the postseason. But they did lose Kate Horton very late,
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Speaker 2: and you can't overcome that necessarily. So they they were
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Speaker 2: down one guy, but they're also a little bit thin.
17:22
Speaker 2: And the bigger story is their bullpen was pieced together
17:27
Speaker 2: and it did well. But they had one pitcher who
17:31
Speaker 2: really can strike guys out at one hundred, and that's
17:33
Speaker 2: Daniel Palencia and he's still harnessing his talent. They had
17:36
Speaker 2: a second pitcher who is a spring invitee who could
17:39
Speaker 2: pop at ninety six ninety seven and Brad Keller, and
17:42
Speaker 2: he did well.
17:43
Speaker 3: But they didn't fortify, for.
17:45
Speaker 2: Example, at the deadline like some of these other teams did.
17:48
Speaker 2: Duran changed hands and I don't even care if these
17:51
Speaker 2: all these players did well or not. Hellesley and Bednar
17:54
Speaker 2: and Duran and you know Finn Again, it doesn't matter
17:57
Speaker 2: that they should have done more if they thought about
18:00
Speaker 2: winning four rounds of the postseason.
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Speaker 3: So I feel like they hit their ceiling. But it
18:06
Speaker 3: was a good year.
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure what they can do to sort of
18:10
Speaker 2: go from ninety two wins to ninety seven or ninety eight,
18:12
Speaker 2: but I do think they can maintain the team.
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Speaker 3: That they have here. I think they need to do
18:17
Speaker 3: more on the mound.
18:18
Speaker 2: Their position player group is basically set barring what you know.
18:23
Speaker 2: Forget Kyle Tucker for a moment, because that's a big
18:26
Speaker 2: what if in right field, But other than that, they've
18:28
Speaker 2: got a decent group and a couple of young players
18:31
Speaker 2: knocked on the door to come up. But I don't
18:33
Speaker 2: think things went wrong. I just think they hit their
18:36
Speaker 2: ceiling and didn't have home field advantage.
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Speaker 1: There we go, Jesse. I think I lost you there
18:45
Speaker 1: for a second, but I think I have you back.
18:47
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this about Kyle Tucker. Is Kyle
18:50
Speaker 1: Tucker in a Cub's uniform next season as he enters
18:54
Speaker 1: into free agency this year?
18:56
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
18:57
Speaker 2: I think when you get to this point and he
19:00
Speaker 2: hasn't already re signed. I think there's a tendency that
19:04
Speaker 2: they move on now. Once in a while, a player
19:07
Speaker 2: might go out and get an offer and bring it
19:09
Speaker 2: back to his team. I don't see the Cubs operating
19:12
Speaker 2: like that. You know, the Cubs are kind of stuck
19:15
Speaker 2: in the middle. They don't spend like the Dodgers or Mets,
19:19
Speaker 2: but they certainly spend more than a lot of teams,
19:21
Speaker 2: and more than even their their rivals in the Central Division.
19:24
Speaker 2: But it's not unlimited, and I think if there was
19:28
Speaker 2: a deal to be had, it would have been earlier
19:30
Speaker 2: after they traded for him, like we saw Lynn Door
19:32
Speaker 2: do with the Mets or Matt Olsen with the Braves.
19:35
Speaker 2: So I think the writings a little bit on the wall.
19:37
Speaker 2: Not impossible, especially if he wanted a short term deal.
19:41
Speaker 2: If he accepted the qualifying offer, all very doubtful. Most
19:44
Speaker 2: free agents want the security once they get there. You know,
19:47
Speaker 2: he had a couple of injuries in the second half.
19:49
Speaker 2: I don't think the Cubs want to tie up thirty
19:51
Speaker 2: five or forty million in one player, especially one year
19:54
Speaker 2: before a new labor deal. They have one of their
19:56
Speaker 2: top prospects knocking on the door in right field, Owen
19:59
Speaker 2: Casey he could take over for Tucker. They still have, say,
20:01
Speaker 2: it's a Zookie under contract who played decently in the
20:04
Speaker 2: outfield out there. So I think there's a bunch of
20:06
Speaker 2: reasons that are piling up, but mostly because we're already
20:10
Speaker 2: here the offseason and he hasn't re signed. Why would
20:14
Speaker 2: the Cubs engage with him after he can engage with
20:17
Speaker 2: twenty nine other teams. Doesn't make much business sense on
20:20
Speaker 2: the Cubs part. And I just feel like Tucker's going
20:23
Speaker 2: to get a better offer elsewhere.
20:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, very likely the one year that he was with
20:27
Speaker 1: the Chicago Cubs. Ironically too, the Houston Astros not making
20:31
Speaker 1: the postseason this year for the first time in a
20:33
Speaker 1: long time. All Right, coming up on fair territory with
20:36
Speaker 1: Jesse Rogers today, we're gonna ask Jesse some questions. So
20:40
Speaker 1: get those questions in for him because we are going
20:43
Speaker 1: to grill him next.
20:44
Speaker 3: We'll be right back.
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Speaker 1: Jesse Rogers would show up to a barbecue in a
21:55
Speaker 1: suit and time now to grill you, Jesse. The first
21:59
Speaker 1: question is in regards to Justin Steel. Ryan wants to
22:03
Speaker 1: know is he supposed to be ready by spring? What's
22:06
Speaker 1: the big picture outlook for Justin?
22:09
Speaker 2: I don't think he'll be ready to take regular turns
22:12
Speaker 2: in the rotation by spring, but certainly early in the season,
22:15
Speaker 2: maybe May, if I'm remembering it correctly, So he'll be
22:19
Speaker 2: a little bit behind everybody else, but not too far.
22:23
Speaker 2: And I think you can you can hope to consider
22:26
Speaker 2: him as a major contributor in twenty twenty six, even
22:28
Speaker 2: if it is in April.
22:29
Speaker 1: First, Okay, all division winners Jesse Rodgers are advancing, of course, Toronto, Milwaukee, Seattle,
22:37
Speaker 1: and Los Angeles. I would want you to rank the
22:40
Speaker 1: home atmospheres of the four remaining teams standing. Let's start
22:46
Speaker 1: with the American leg. Let's start with Toronto.
22:50
Speaker 3: I would put it at a six and a half.
22:53
Speaker 3: It's pretty good.
22:55
Speaker 2: They're nice in Canada, though they're not gonna be springing
22:58
Speaker 2: the opponent's game like the regally crowd was with Freddy Peralta.
23:02
Speaker 3: But it can get rockets for sure up there. Maybe
23:04
Speaker 3: maybe more than six and a half.
23:05
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, I haven't been to a game
23:07
Speaker 2: in Toronto in a few years, so I shouldn't downgrade it.
23:10
Speaker 3: But it's pretty darn good. I'll put it that way,
23:13
Speaker 3: all right.
23:13
Speaker 1: They're gonna have the roof open tonight. I wonder if
23:15
Speaker 1: that makes any sort of difference in terms of that outcome.
23:20
Speaker 1: What about Seattle? Obviously Seattle, We're going to get to
23:22
Speaker 1: Rob's question in just a second. Seattle, right ranks Seattle
23:26
Speaker 1: than LA, than Milwaukee.
23:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Seattle is probably one among those three.
23:32
Speaker 2: I mean, it's been just crazy there and it will
23:34
Speaker 2: only take another take it to another level in the ALCS.
23:39
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the Dodger fans, it can be
23:42
Speaker 2: very good, it can be very good. But I will
23:44
Speaker 2: say the Brewer fans reacted, I think, to what was
23:46
Speaker 2: going on at really and brought it in Game five.
23:50
Speaker 2: I put the Brewers and Dodgers similar. Dome open, don't close.
23:54
Speaker 2: Can make a difference, certainly, but I think I think
23:56
Speaker 2: most people would say Dodger Stadium can get going, and
23:59
Speaker 2: and fam Field as well. But I'd put safeg above them.
24:03
Speaker 2: I'd put what happens in Seattle above those two.
24:06
Speaker 1: All right, it's gonna be interesting to see. I think
24:08
Speaker 1: the Citizens Bank fans the most difficult place to go
24:12
Speaker 1: into and play. Unfortunately, the Phillies have been kicked out.
24:17
Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna have much more questions after this,
24:19
Speaker 1: but one really quick one from rob What do you
24:21
Speaker 1: think about the tactic of turning starters into relievers in
24:23
Speaker 1: the postseason? Will we see more of this in the
24:26
Speaker 1: coming years. We have about sixty seconds to answer this
24:28
Speaker 1: one easy.
24:30
Speaker 3: The answer is yes.
24:31
Speaker 2: I mean unless you somehow have for healthy, ready to
24:34
Speaker 2: go starters like the Dodgers have, only because they slow
24:38
Speaker 2: played them. Even Doc Roberts said yesterday, Yeah, we could
24:40
Speaker 2: have pitched Blake Snell earlier in the year, but we didn't.
24:43
Speaker 3: So the Dodgers are one thing.
24:45
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna see openers and folk innings and
24:48
Speaker 2: just trying to get twenty seven outs. Hopefully the agents
24:52
Speaker 2: catch up with it and say, hey, my guys pitching
24:55
Speaker 2: inning two through four, pay him in the playoffs, you know,
24:58
Speaker 2: for what he does in the playoffs. Oh, I think yes.
25:01
Speaker 2: The answers we're going to see more weird permutations of
25:04
Speaker 2: how pitchers are used in the postseason unless you simply
25:08
Speaker 2: have four decent starters ready to rock and roll, and
25:11
Speaker 2: very few teams do.
25:12
Speaker 1: Hey, for those of you still with us, we're glad
25:14
Speaker 1: that you are still here. A couple of more questions
25:16
Speaker 1: for Jesse Rodgers. This is a fair question. Jesse I
25:20
Speaker 1: wonder this too. Robert just has a simple one David Ross.
25:23
Speaker 1: I don't know if that means for San Diego or
25:26
Speaker 1: another open managerial spot. What do you think?
25:29
Speaker 2: It's funny because I do think he'd be a decent
25:31
Speaker 2: fit in San Diego. I mean, the sort of theme
25:33
Speaker 2: around Ross would be put him with a veteran club
25:36
Speaker 2: or one that's ready to win more than a rebuilding one,
25:39
Speaker 2: just for obvious reasons. He's kind of that grizzled you know,
25:42
Speaker 2: Grandpa Ross, right, But I think he learned a lot
25:47
Speaker 2: in his first gig. There's a ton of openings. He's
25:50
Speaker 2: going to end up somewhere. I wouldn't doubt that Preller
25:53
Speaker 2: will interview him. I don't doubt that the thinking, the
25:57
Speaker 2: common thinking is Baltimore, Atlanta for sure, and now why
26:01
Speaker 2: not throw San Diego into the mix. So I think
26:04
Speaker 2: Ross is the right guy at the right time in
26:07
Speaker 2: a lot of ways, like being out of the game
26:09
Speaker 2: and you know, coming back into it with so many
26:11
Speaker 2: openings I think, and he didn't leave.
26:13
Speaker 3: In it with a bad reputation at all.
26:15
Speaker 2: So I do think he gets one of these gigs,
26:17
Speaker 2: and San Diego would be intriguing for sure.
26:20
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a quick question about Manny Ramier
26:24
Speaker 1: or Manny Ramirez, Manny Manchado. Do you think that there's
26:26
Speaker 1: a Bucks Show Walter Manny Machado reunion in San Diego.
26:30
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens in San Diego. A lot of
26:33
Speaker 1: managerial openings for all of you watching. We're gonna still
26:38
Speaker 1: wait and see if Jesse Rogers comes back. Put some
26:40
Speaker 1: questions in the chat here. I'll see if I can
26:42
Speaker 1: answer any of these for you guys. It says it's over,
26:46
Speaker 1: says the Orioles and Rays will bounce back, while either
26:49
Speaker 1: the Yankees or Red Slacks will fall back and end
26:51
Speaker 1: up in last place. It's an interesting take in terms
26:54
Speaker 1: of it's over. Who were the free Phillies free agents
26:56
Speaker 1: next year? A lot Johnny Owen, Kyle Schwarber obviously the biggest,
27:01
Speaker 1: Probably free agents, Ranger Suarez the free agents of course,
27:05
Speaker 1: with the Philadelphia Phillies. Let's see, imagine if the Mets
27:09
Speaker 1: get Kyle and the Phillies get Pete Alonzo. How funny
27:11
Speaker 1: will that be? It would be that would certainly shake
27:14
Speaker 1: up the NL East, if you will, Who else do
27:18
Speaker 1: we have in the chat here? As we wait for
27:20
Speaker 1: Jesse to come back on, Johnny Owen, Why would anyone
27:24
Speaker 1: want to manage the Padres? Aj Preller just trades the
27:28
Speaker 1: farm every deadline. That's not necessarily true, Johnny, because one
27:31
Speaker 1: thing that aj Preller does is he spends money, and he,
27:34
Speaker 1: much like Jerry Depoto in Seattle, is willing to make moves.
27:38
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't fault the front office and the
27:40
Speaker 1: ownership group for what they were able to do with
27:42
Speaker 1: the San Diego Potters. They brought in a tremendous amount
27:45
Speaker 1: of talent Allah Mason Miller to fortify what was already
27:49
Speaker 1: a ridiculously good bullpen. I mean, San Diego is a
27:52
Speaker 1: winnable team. This is a team that obviously spends money.
27:55
Speaker 1: They can certainly compete with the Los Angeles Dodgers in
27:59
Speaker 1: the n L West. I think San Diego is a
28:01
Speaker 1: very desirable place to manage. A lot of it depends,
28:05
Speaker 1: perhaps on the culture Jesse, and I don't know. I
28:06
Speaker 1: was answering a question, welcome back, my friend, Johnny. No
28:11
Speaker 1: one asked, No, it's okay. Why would anybody Johnny wants
28:13
Speaker 1: to know, why would anybody want to manage the Padres?
28:16
Speaker 1: I think it's a desirable place. It just you know,
28:18
Speaker 1: you have that's a team that spends money. I mean,
28:21
Speaker 1: why why should why should managers want to go to
28:24
Speaker 1: San Diego?
28:26
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, it's one of thirty great jobs
28:30
Speaker 2: that we have in this industry. It is San Diego,
28:33
Speaker 2: nice place to live. They are trying to compete. Now
28:36
Speaker 2: we'll see if they're going to continue to spend money.
28:39
Speaker 2: But look, plenty have teams that don't spend money compete
28:42
Speaker 2: as well. It's tough to be in the division with
28:43
Speaker 2: the Dodgers, but that's why you have three wildcards. You
28:46
Speaker 2: got to win on the margins. If you're not going
28:48
Speaker 2: to spend, you got to develop. That's what these smaller
28:51
Speaker 2: markets like Milwaukee do. So it's desirable for a lot
28:54
Speaker 2: of reasons. You still have to tease there. You still have,
28:57
Speaker 2: you know, a good core. Why not San Diego. J
29:02
Speaker 2: Preler doesn't meddle too much with his managers. I don't
29:04
Speaker 2: think it's a good job to have. It's just tough
29:08
Speaker 2: to beat the Dodgers. But you have to think about
29:11
Speaker 2: the wild card most years, and that's okay too.
29:13
Speaker 3: So I don't see why not San Diego.
29:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you been to San Diego? I'll take it.
29:18
Speaker 1: Anybody want to hire me, I'll take it. That's gonna
29:20
Speaker 1: do it. For this episode of Fair Territory with our
29:23
Speaker 1: guest Jesse Rogers, we appreciate your insight as always, best
29:26
Speaker 1: of luck covering the NLCS. Thanks for being with us today, guys,
29:30
Speaker 1: I'm your host Elana Rizzo, Ken Rosenthal and myself. We'll
29:33
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