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Pete and Tony React to Sunday Night Football Loss vs. Ravens | Jaguars Happy Hour · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 4: Shadrick Coming up, Tony Vasselli, Pete Prisco. We're at the
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  Speaker 4: Hundai studios at the Miller Electric Center recapping Ravens twenty three,
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  Speaker 4: Jaguars seven, Trevor Lawrence and the Offensi's performance in the game,
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  Speaker 4: and now the health of the quarterback after the game
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  Speaker 4: is a race to the finish. All three teams at
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  Speaker 4: YouTube JP Shadwick, Tony BISSELLI here in Jacksonville, Pete Prisco
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  Speaker 4: down in South Florida and missed opportunities zero for three
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  Speaker 4: in the red zone, two lost fumbles, two miss field goals,
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  Speaker 4: pre snap penalties.
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  Speaker 2: And that was just in the first half. Pete.
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  Speaker 5: It was so bad.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, my gosh, that's a game. At least you're
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  Speaker 3: in it. The field goal, Okay, he's supposed to be
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  Speaker 3: a good kicker.
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  Speaker 5: You make your damn field goals. We know that.
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  Speaker 3: You guys know how I feel about kickers. Make your
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  Speaker 3: damn kicks. It's your only damn job in the game.
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  Speaker 3: Go make your kicks. You stand out there all day
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  Speaker 3: during practice, you lollygagger around, make your kicks. But the
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  Speaker 3: end of the half, I mean, that's QB coach one
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  Speaker 3: oh one, and they botched it that. That was so disappointing.
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  Speaker 3: You have to be able to look. I know, they
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  Speaker 3: say they go run a play, spike the ball there.
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  Speaker 3: You get two shots into the end zone and then
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  Speaker 3: then you kick your field goal. If you don't spike
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  Speaker 3: the ball and you go make that play, you can't allow.
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  Speaker 5: The guy to get tackled in bounds. Look at that.
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  Speaker 3: That was thirty seconds or what was it, twenty five
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  Speaker 3: seconds when he landed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's twenty four It's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 5: It was just and Trevor cannot throw the routes.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if you go to the mirrored routes, there's
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  Speaker 3: nowhere to go with the football. Throw it into the crowd.
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  Speaker 3: It's just it's it's it was bad football at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the half. I mean, inexcusable. Should never happen.
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  Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Tony. Yeah, I'm exhausted. I was thinking about
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  Speaker 2: coming not the show today, really, yeah, because I'm not
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  Speaker 2: in a good mindset because you normally don't think about it.
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  Speaker 2: You just show up a mistake, it's.
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  Speaker 4: Usually really good.
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  Speaker 2: It's a mistake. And now you've thought about this, which
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  Speaker 2: is a mistake, because that was a This is a
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  Speaker 2: team that beats itself and it's not going to win
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  Speaker 2: until it cleans that up. It's not good enough. The
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  Speaker 2: fall starts, turnovers, the lack of football awareness, situational football mistackles.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, just go I mean, it's you got to
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  Speaker 2: be able to do the basics and not beat yourself
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  Speaker 2: before you're going to be have a chance to be
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  Speaker 2: a good team and win games. And the real frustrating
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  Speaker 2: thing is in spite of all that, I mean, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's it's ten to seven.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, end of the third quarter.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you know, Duant's moot has a chance to sack
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  Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson to make it like third and forever or
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  Speaker 2: whatever it was going to be, and instead it's a
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  Speaker 2: jump ball that we have two guys and we don't
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  Speaker 2: get it. They make I mean, give them credit, they
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  Speaker 2: made plays we didn't. Then you get them the.
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  Speaker 3: Second and then get her up there. Collinsworth was going
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  Speaker 3: crazy for that play. It was a great play to
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  Speaker 3: get away from Dwance Moot. Great play, but the throw
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  Speaker 3: should have been intercepted.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it should have been intercepted. And then you get
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  Speaker 2: a penalty and you get him to first, second and sixteen.
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  Speaker 2: There's five Jaguars around one tight end. He sticks it
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  Speaker 2: in there. Lamar played great, a good job, but it's just.
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  Speaker 5: You're talking about to touchdown likely right, yeah, the one
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  Speaker 5: in the middle.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, seam route.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just and to half Pete. I I agree
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  Speaker 2: with you. I would spike it. I don't think. I
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  Speaker 2: mean it's a He's still Trevor's still young quarterback. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: we're not in a situation where you can just say,
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  Speaker 2: just go do what they're trying to do. I mean
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  Speaker 2: Doug's thinking there is let's go fast, catch him off
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  Speaker 2: guard and go. I'm not like, he's not the only
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  Speaker 2: coach who thinks that. I disagree with it, But that's fine,
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  Speaker 2: that's a philosophical I would spot it.
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  Speaker 5: I don't agree with it at all.
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  Speaker 2: I don't, but there's other people that. There's other people,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm not gonna I mean, that's a and Doug
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  Speaker 2: is won a Super Bowl I have not.
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  Speaker 5: So, but you can still criticize him for it.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm not. I'm not going to criticize him doing it.
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  Speaker 2: I disagree with that. What I criticize is if your
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  Speaker 2: guy isn't ready to do it and doesn't understand and
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  Speaker 2: the route combination makes no sense to me, again, not enough.
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  Speaker 2: It's a coordinator. If anything, you look at it they
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  Speaker 2: were running. I get that if anything like their man
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  Speaker 2: coverage were gonna pick if you want to, because you
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  Speaker 2: see all the time in that formation, the outside guy
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  Speaker 2: runs up, makes the corner bubble over the top, and
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  Speaker 2: you try to hit that in the flat and he
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  Speaker 2: turns the corner into the end zone.
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  Speaker 3: If you hit that in the flat, there's always a
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  Speaker 3: chance he's getting tackled in bounds.
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  Speaker 2: Pete, My point is I wouldn't call it no matter what.
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  Speaker 2: But if you're gonna do it, do that correct. But
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  Speaker 2: if they called the play, or whoever called the play,
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  Speaker 2: maybe Trevor called, I don't know if that's the play.
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  Speaker 3: It came in happen his helmet as they came down
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  Speaker 3: the field. That must be a signal for something.
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  Speaker 4: It must be like we're gonna go yeah, because it's
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  Speaker 4: not like he's running down the field motion and get play.
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  Speaker 2: It must be something prepped. You gotta throw it into
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  Speaker 2: the first row. It's not there, it's not open. You
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  Speaker 2: cannot make that throw.
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  Speaker 3: And that thought that's on Trevor. There's no question that's
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  Speaker 3: on Trevor as a veteran quarterback. A veteran quarterback has
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  Speaker 3: to throw that would throw that into the into the seats.
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  Speaker 5: But here's the problem with that. How many plays the
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  Speaker 5: ball too.
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  Speaker 2: At least you spiked it with eleven seconds.
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  Speaker 5: You could like that. You could have spiked that with okay, well.
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  Speaker 2: But he had to make sure he gets he had
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  Speaker 2: to make sure everyone gets lined up. Let's say it's
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  Speaker 2: twelve seconds, okay, okay, twelve twelve. You would have had
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  Speaker 2: two shots, two shots at the end zone. Each play
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  Speaker 2: is gonna take four seconds, five us.
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  Speaker 5: And then you kick your field. Then you kick a field.
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  Speaker 2: Go if you don't get it.
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  Speaker 3: So so that that part of it is on the
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  Speaker 3: coaching staff. The second part of it is on Trevor.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and I'm not gonna I would never debate, like
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think you guys know this. Whatever I
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  Speaker 2: say here, i'd say right to the person. And I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't debate Doug on this point because his experience and the.
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  Speaker 4: Way he wants to play, he would know.
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  Speaker 2: My point is, I would say, I disagree, I would
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  Speaker 2: do this, but you're the head coach, like, but you
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  Speaker 2: can debate it.
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  Speaker 4: Talking point, Pete.
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  Speaker 2: My point is they have a philosophy, and a lot
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  Speaker 2: of coaches have the philosophy, and because I disagree with it,
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  Speaker 2: it's not one's right and one's wrong. That philosophy is
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  Speaker 2: not wrong. You could score from either philosophy. That's my point.
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  Speaker 2: But you better if you're gonna go to go down
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  Speaker 2: the route that Doug is gonna go down, and he's decided,
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  Speaker 2: which is fine, it's he's dead. Coach, you better make
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  Speaker 2: sure your quarterback understands if it's not there, you throw
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  Speaker 2: it into the if he's not walking into the end zone,
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  Speaker 2: throw it in the first stand, in the first row.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll go back to two years Pete, I'll go
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  Speaker 2: back to two years ago I was doing.
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  Speaker 4: I think it was two years ago. Chiefs Bengals.
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  Speaker 2: Uh. The Chiefs are dominating AFC title game, dominating the
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  Speaker 2: first half. Bengals are on the ropes. They have a
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  Speaker 2: chance to go make it a three score game. It's
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  Speaker 2: first in goal with no timeouts in like five seconds
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  Speaker 2: and they're gonna run it from the two yard line
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  Speaker 2: and try to get in.
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  Speaker 4: You know what they did.
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  Speaker 2: They ran a similar play to the flat to Tyreek.
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  Speaker 2: Killy got tackled on the one and I said on
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  Speaker 2: the air, I'm like, you cannot call that play and
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  Speaker 2: throw that play unless Tyreek kills by himself in the flat.
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  Speaker 2: You can't risk you kick the field goal or if
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  Speaker 2: you want to do a quick hit or you try
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  Speaker 2: to throw the end zone I it's not there, and
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  Speaker 2: then you kick the field goal. They had less time.
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  Speaker 2: They had like four or five seconds. I feel no different. Now,
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  Speaker 2: you like, that's not I just you can't beat yourself.
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  Speaker 2: You're not good enough. I'll go back even further. It's
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  Speaker 2: three nothing, three nothing. We are down first and ten.
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  Speaker 2: I want to say from the twelve yard line, or
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  Speaker 2: maybe it was the ten. It was twelve yard line.
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  Speaker 2: I believe first down handed. Travis Anton Harrison gets overwhelmed
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  Speaker 2: by urban two yard loss. Okay, second and twelve, fine, whatever, right,
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  Speaker 2: a false start on Evan Ingram. Okay, great, this is
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  Speaker 2: going great. We're going backwards. But it's three nothing. Now
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  Speaker 2: it's second and seventeen. Okay. Trevor dross Back throws a
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  Speaker 2: beautifult ball the Parker Washington. It would have made it
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  Speaker 2: about third and four or five, and that third mid
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  Speaker 2: it goes right through Parker's hands like he did, like
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  Speaker 2: he's never caught the football in his life before, uncontested.
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  Speaker 2: And then now it's third and seventeen. Nothing's there. Trevor
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  Speaker 2: runs around. There's four three or four Ravens sitting there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not I still don't know what he was trying
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  Speaker 2: to accomplish.
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  Speaker 5: And nobody was open.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying I'm not faulting him for not
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  Speaker 2: throwing it. There's no one open. But I'm just like,
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  Speaker 2: what are you trying to accomplish? The play's over seventeen
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna get hammered. The only things that can happen
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  Speaker 2: at this point are bad things. It's right here, right,
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  Speaker 2: he's running around. Look at, look at there's three ravens
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  Speaker 2: surrounding him.
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  Speaker 5: There's what he was thinking.
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  Speaker 4: What's he thinking?
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  Speaker 3: He wanted to get more yards because he wanted to
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  Speaker 3: MacManus to miss another field.
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  Speaker 2: It was a chips pete. I'm kidding, Like I was
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  Speaker 2: like watching I'm like, just slide, just slide, get down it.
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  Speaker 4: Just I set that aside.
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  Speaker 5: He is trying to get down Tony.
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  Speaker 2: He's not bamp.
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  Speaker 4: No, he's not. I'm watching it right, he's not gets down.
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  Speaker 2: If they kicked the field goal there it's three three
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  Speaker 2: three two three.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's like.
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  Speaker 2: I just go through this like the fifty yard of
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  Speaker 2: mcmahonsmiths is bounces off. I think the wind probably pushed
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  Speaker 2: it a little bit. Sure, Okay, that happens. It was
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  Speaker 2: a fifty seven yard or the second one won second
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  Speaker 2: yank yanked fifty five sorry, fifty five second one? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: like a lot of guys are gonna miss that field goal.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not okay whatever I mean, Harball passed on the
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  Speaker 2: fifty six with the greatest kicker in the history of
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  Speaker 2: the game. It was windy, it was cold, like Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I get it. Those things happen. But what can't happen
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  Speaker 2: is not having good situational football. And you cannot when
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  Speaker 2: there's plays to be made not make them. And you
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  Speaker 2: can't fumble the ball. You just can't. You cannot have
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  Speaker 2: a disregard for the football. And this team on offense
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  Speaker 2: as a disregard for the football.
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  Speaker 5: And I mean kallous disregard and I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Not saying they go into the game, but it's a trend.
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  Speaker 2: It's a it's where it's going. With all that said,
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  Speaker 2: I've had enough today to of like I'm I am
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  Speaker 2: in January, I might start today. Really, I think I'm
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  Speaker 2: getting off social media and stop listening to sports talk
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  Speaker 2: radio that's probably radio, and I'm gonna get off all
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  Speaker 2: my text threads with all my idiot friends, you're just
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  Speaker 2: going out in the I think I'm going I think
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  Speaker 2: I'm going old guard because the.
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  Speaker 5: Idiot friends are probably right and you don't want to
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  Speaker 5: admit it.
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  Speaker 2: Trevor, Trevor's a bus mean, We're like, like, this is
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  Speaker 2: what I've seen on social media. I've seen one local
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  Speaker 2: media number. I'm not going to bring up his name.
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  Speaker 2: Bring up that Gardner Minshew beat the Ravens earlier in
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  Speaker 2: the year in Baltimore. What does that have to do
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  Speaker 2: with anything? Are you saying you'd rather have Gardner Minshew
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  Speaker 2: than Trevor Lawrence? Is that what you're saying. Trevor's a bust,
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  Speaker 2: Trevor's no good. I'm starting to rethink Trevor. That's it's absurd.
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  Speaker 2: Trevor played terrible yesterday. He had a bad game.
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  Speaker 5: He didn't play terrible.
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  Speaker 2: He missed, Yes, he missed a bunch of stuff early.
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  Speaker 2: He was high. It wasn't he was behind on guys.
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  Speaker 2: That was like, I have high expectations for Trevor. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think he had a good football game. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think the situation awareness. I don't think he was awful though, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I think he was better.
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  Speaker 3: Here we are sitting here rare. Everybody's the m v P.
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  Speaker 3: The m v P compare their two data points.
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  Speaker 5: Compare the mum pete.
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  Speaker 4: He had two fumbles, he had bad situation awareness, and
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  Speaker 4: he was inaccurate. I'm just telling you this saying I think,
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  Speaker 4: with that said, I will go to war with Trevor
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  Speaker 4: Lawrence as my quarterback, and anyone.
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  Speaker 5: Might be going to war without him this week.
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  Speaker 2: I know that if anyone, I am like, are you
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  Speaker 2: kidding me? Your takeaway from this team and this season
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  Speaker 2: so far is that Trevor Lawrence can't play and you
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  Speaker 2: want to bring up Gardner Minshew.
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  Speaker 3: Like names like the name.
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  Speaker 4: I did this.
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  Speaker 2: I said this a couple of years ago, and I
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  Speaker 2: killed my poor friend Hayes car Line on this show
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  Speaker 2: his name and I love Hayes and and I just
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  Speaker 2: won't do that again. It is not and I like
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  Speaker 2: the person who's did it.
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  Speaker 5: One thing real quick. Can you do one thing real quick?
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  Speaker 3: Show me the play where, if we can see it,
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  Speaker 3: where he tried to hit the out of bounds play
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the half.
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  Speaker 5: I just want to see how much time was left
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  Speaker 5: when he fell out of bounds? Was there ten.
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  Speaker 4: Seconds left when the tackle.
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  Speaker 5: Was tackled out of bounds. Yeah, with the tackles, mate.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's probably six six.
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  Speaker 3: So he would have He definitely if he spikes it,
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  Speaker 3: he definitely has two more plays.
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  Speaker 2: They got to the line at fifteen.
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  Speaker 3: Three more play, he has three more plays at least two. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: so situationally, he.
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  Speaker 2: Gets he gets tackled at eight seconds.
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  Speaker 3: He Doug Peterson blew that. Okay, there's no sugarcoating it.
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  Speaker 3: Doug Peterson is the head coach. He's ultimately responsible for
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  Speaker 3: the situation. He blew it. Then Trevor blew it by
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  Speaker 3: throwing it to a guy who's not getting out of bounds,
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  Speaker 3: who's not in the end zone.
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  Speaker 5: So they both blew it.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's three points off the board, maybe seven because
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  Speaker 3: of their situational football. And I get Tony, I get
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  Speaker 3: your your theory on coaches like.
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  Speaker 5: To go fast.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe you get him, but you also have to look
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  Speaker 3: at it from this standpoint, what.
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  Speaker 5: Gives me the best chance to get the most plays?
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  Speaker 2: Pete He obviously felt like that, did I agree with you?
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to.
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  Speaker 2: I don't I really don't want to debate this with you,
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  Speaker 2: because I agree with you I would have spiked it.
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  Speaker 2: My only point at all I'm bringing up, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: not trying to protect Doug. I would have I would
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  Speaker 2: have no problem having this conversation with Doug. That's why
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying it on there. I don't say anything on
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  Speaker 2: the air that I wouldn't say to the individual. My
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  Speaker 2: point is it'd be pointless to debate because his philosophy
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  Speaker 2: is to go fast and I and just because I
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  Speaker 2: disagree with somebody, I'm like, Okay, I see your perspective.
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  Speaker 2: I just I would do it differently. Does it make
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  Speaker 2: one right or the other one wrong?
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  Speaker 3: Philosophy is also to go for it in search of
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  Speaker 3: certain situations. And the majority of the time he's been
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  Speaker 3: wrong in him, Pete.
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  Speaker 2: He's been right a lot, and he's won a super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that gives I'm not saying that
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  Speaker 2: gives you a but that.
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  Speaker 5: Doesn't mean situationally, everything he does is right.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. And we pull now a lot
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  Speaker 2: of stuff you and I disagree with, and sometimes I
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  Speaker 2: don't think it's a matter of opinion in this one,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I actually think even though I agree one thousand percent
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: with you, Pete, I would have spiked it. I don't
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: think it's like a black and white issue. I think
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: like both philosophies have worked in the past.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Correct, What did you guys used to do back in
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: the day in that situation.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: That's a great question, Pete. I'm ninety five percent sure
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: we would have spiked it there, but I can't. I actually,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: I know we would have spiked it because we never
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: worked on a just like we didn't have a play
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: in to go to.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you would spike it, I think I remember you
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: guys actually did spike it a bunch, and that's what
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: I would do. I mean, it just gives you more,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: It calms it down, it gives you more.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: What happens if you're true. Here's my always my philosophy
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: on that.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: If you're trying to get lined up and somebody isn't said,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: it's a ten second runoff and you're done anyways, that's right,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: So we always spike it.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: You always spike it.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: So just to be clear, Pete, you would have spiked it.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: I'm kidding. Of course, we're back in a moment. We've
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: got plenty more on the offense. Yesterday, the defense overall
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: played well enough to keep them close in the game.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: We'll get to that a little bit later. Of course,
• 18:22
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• 18:42
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• 18:44
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• 19:05
  Speaker 6: Control what you can control, right, and that's just what
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: we have to do. And it's not a situation where
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: I think one of the reporters last night asked me,
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: you know you are your gripping the bat too tight.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: You know we can't do that. You know we can't.
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: We can't begin to panic, begin to press. We've got
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: to continue to play, practice hard and make a conscious
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: effort to correct the things we can.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: That's head coach Doug Peterson today in his day after
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: press conference after the Jaguars lost to the Ravens twenty
• 19:41
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• 19:44
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• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Tony Boselli here in Jacksonville at the Miller Electric Center
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: in the Hundai Studios Pete Prisco with us down in
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: South Florida. And you know, obviously after the game, Trevor
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Lawrence self reported the concussion symptoms and is now in
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: the concussion protocol.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: For the NFL.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: And on top of that, just moments ago, Tom Pallizero
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: of NFL Network tweeting that or posting on x that
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: the Patriots claimed quarterback Nathan Rourke off waivers from the
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Jaguars because he was on the regular roster after last
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: week's game going into last week's game. To be the
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: emergency third quarterback in the Browns game, you have to
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: be on the active roster for that. He stayed on
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: the active roster all week and he was waived to
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: make room for Jamal Agnew to come off the injury list,
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: and he didn't clear waivers. So the Patriots have claimed him.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: And if that goes through, and he guess what, the
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Jaguars would have only CJ.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Bethard in the quarterback room, Now.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: You go find one.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so if you're playing a third, if you play
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: that third guy, you're in trouble anyway.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: No, but Pete, if Trevor can't go and Bethard has
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: an injury, yeah, he's on the list as well, he's not.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: And now you're going to go in with one quarterback
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: who knows the offense?
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Well, is there anybody that they've had around here that
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: knows the offense?
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: No?
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: They had three in camp, three in camp and now
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: two could not be available this week.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: Have they had any others in the last couple of
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: years with that? No, go get Nick Foles.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Foles and he knows the offense.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: How funny would that be?
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, it'd be hilarious, Pete, I'm just I can't stop laughing.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: But he does know, He does know Doug Peterson's offense,
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: doesn't he?
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: You would think I'm assuming it's the same verbiage from
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: the Eagles. I don't know that for a fact, but
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: That's where the state of affairs are right now. You
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: know this, Uh, we'll get to the defense in just
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: a little bit. But the wide receiver room obviously was
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: banged up going into the game. Christian Kirks still on
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: the injury list for another couple of weeks at least.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: Zay Jones comes out of the game with a hamstring injury.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: That didn't sound positive today from the head coach. He's
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: gone and so at least for this week. So all right,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: where are they at? Wide receiver Ridley's performance was twelve targets,
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: five catches in the game. Should have had a touchdown
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: on the in the back of the end zone.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they Pete, What was your take on that?
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: That was a touchdown? I thought it was too they
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: didn't overturn that.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: The only thing I thought, and I said this in
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: the air, is like if you do on the reverse view?
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Were they arguing that is kind of his rear end
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: was on this? But his butt was on the white
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: That's the only thing I could say. Okay, it didn't
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: look like it.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: I didn't know.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I didn't think it was. But looking at it and
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: the fact that they had called it incomplete on the field,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: was it too close for them to overturn it? That's
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: the only thing. I thought it was a catch, but
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: it was.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: It would have been a great catch too, by the way,
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: because I don't know to fit that in there.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: Why is he going there's no room there? What?
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Nope, No, he was not open.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: They're never opened, by the way, can I say that yesterday?
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: They were not. The Ravens have a good defense, good secondary,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: and there was not a lot of space.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: And then when they ran they were doing there when
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: they were playing zone, Tony, they were running into the man.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Again, there was not a lot of space, Pete.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: How do they get back to finding space in the
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: passing year?
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: I don't Know's hope there's busts like there was when
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Agnew had the long you know, the throw to Agnew,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: the touchdown. Trevor looks ten times more comfortable when he
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: half boots and sets his feet and fires across the
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: other side of the field.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: He just does. They don't throw to the middle of that.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Why don't They went to Farrell in the middle of
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: the field and he threw a great ball in there,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: and then they stopped going there.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know, Pete, but I just know this.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: It's a beat up position group. It's a beat up team.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Frankly so, Tony, No, I know that, but I mean,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: key guys, Pete, you know how injuries go in this league,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: everyone's gonna have them.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: He's got to hope it's not to your key guys.
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: Okay, but the Ravens don't have their starting running back.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: They don't have Mark Andrews, who is the big focal
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: point of their offense either.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: I mean that that's annoying.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I'm not making excuses. I'm just saying this.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Team this year, it seems like it's worse across the league,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: not just here, but Jacksonvill's had their fair share at one.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: This team is without their starting safety, their starting corner,
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: they're starting left tackle, there's number one receiver, and yeah,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just that's a fact.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, I get it.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: But okay, I can go to Cleveland.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Cleveland's playing without their starting to tackles, nick their starting quarterback,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: and they're down to their fourth quarterback and they beat
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: them last week.
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, you could do that around the world.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Pete, I'm not trying to say the Jaguars are in
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: the worst situation of my goodness. Are you just in
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: a mood to argue with everything that is said today?
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I get the facts. My point was not that they're
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: more injured than anyone else. I'm saying they're missing key
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: guys on a team that's not like Uber deep with talent,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: with big time players.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: But now the receivers are banged up, don't you have
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: to do different things to try and get guys open?
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: What like what Pete? Because I've watched them do a
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: lot of things. They can't run the ball. It's hard
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: to get guys open when you can't run the ball.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: So the play action pass.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: They abandon the run too early because they ran it
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: early in the game.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: But then late they did not. After the first quarter,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: quarter and a half they did not. And part of
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: the reason I think they did not get as many
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: rushes and maybe Preston needs to call more of it.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying he doesn't, is they were three for
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: thirteen on third down. It's hard to stay on the
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: field and put drives together and run the ball when
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: you're terrible on third down. If you're gonna run about Pete,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: if you're gonna stick hold on to get the rhythm,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: hold on Pete, if you're gonna stick to the run,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: guess what you have to be able to do. You
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: have to be able to convert third and three, third
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: and four, And if you don't care that. Then you
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: can't stick to it if you don't run, and you
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: don't get to third and three.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: Because but but let me ask you this.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: That play we just showed where Bigsby comes in and
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: gets tackled from behind, didn't they just complete a pass
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: down the field?
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: They seem like they were getting it. Let go go,
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: don't go? Why did you You.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Got to make your mind up? A second ago you
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: said why did they abandon the run? And now you're
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: saying why did they run?
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: You can run it when you're running it, and you can,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: but you don't have to get There's no book out
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: there that says, oh, I just completed a twenty five
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: yard pass. Let me get Bigsby in the game and
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: we'll run it so we can have second and twelve.
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: On the next play. No, there's no book on that.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: And by the way, you want me to get started
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: on the pop up bubble screens that they threw last night?
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Sure?
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Why not?
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Think you just did well?
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: I mean how many?
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: How many?
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: Do you know how many? There were six of them?
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I think I didn't keep score? Go ahead?
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: They're too horizontal, Tony's guy's hand on his head.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: What's the matter to head hurts. I think you're giving
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: me a headache.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: Pete, I'm not giving you a headaches. You agree with me.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: I go back to what I've said all year. If
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: you struggle to hold up in your quarterback, you can't.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Run the ball consistently. And I'm not saying they didn't
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: do some good things early and I thought Travis looked better,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: more explosive, But when you can't do it consistently, and
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: you don't want to drop back five hundred times and
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: get your quarterback's head knocked off with the leading team
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: in sacks on a beat up offensive line, you had
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: a left tackle that one leg and you could see
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: it from the first stap he couldn't sit down. You
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: had a left guard who was playing on a bad knee,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: and you could tell he didn't have played well by
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: the way I give both he sucked it up. But wa,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: what else do you want them to do? So you
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: can't just drop back, hold the ball and take vertical
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: shots all day because we're guess where most of your
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: down guess we're most guess where most of your downfield
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: shots come off of a lot of times off the
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: play act should pass. Yeah, we're not running the ball,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: and so guess what they do. They use the bubble
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: screen as a run play. It's a run play, that's
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: all it is. They're trying to get it out of
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: their hands, get it to a play maker and space
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: and see if you can get four yards. That's all
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: they're doing. And maybe he'll break one every once in
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: a while.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: But they even ran it when they're out flanked on
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: that side, They've run it into it.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that, Pete, I get it. I don't
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: love to play either. I'm just saying everyone has an answer.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: You have to look at reality of what you have
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: and you're what you're playing with.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Do you do you ever feel like this season, aside
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: from maybe a game or two, that this offense has
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: been in any sort of rhythm, whether they're running it
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: or throwing it.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: Play calling wise, I it Buffalo.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, there's been Buffalo.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's been a couple of games.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: But they ran well against Buffalo, not.
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: Just running it. I'm just saying.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Whatever, Yeah, I mean I would say that. Well, that's
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: the first one that popped in my head, Pete.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, I I mean, like, look this play here,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: this is a run and play Look what run that
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: back again?
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: Look what the center is doing on that play.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't have the energy for that one today.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Like we know, Pete, I'm with you, by the way.
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: Okay, but do you make a change Tony.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Obviously, Okay, that's my point.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Then then if you can't, if you're starting center can't
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: get pushed in the run game, and you have nobody
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: to go to, then then there's fatal flaw in plan
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: of building the team.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Pete, let me ask you this question. This offense last year,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: were they a juggernaut? Last year?
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't call him a juggernaut?
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Were they?
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: But okay, there much difference between this offense last year
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: and this year. The answer is no, it's about this.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: It's about the I mean they maybe you know, they're
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: like part of the reason we're seeing this now. They're
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: playing good defenses every week. They didn't, you know, go
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: look at the defense as they played last year down
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: the show.
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: Ye, they didn't play this this caliber defense.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, so that's one. Two.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: What changes? What's like?
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: There's no change in personnel from last year's team to
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: this team. It's the same exact team. They made a
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: bet in the offseason. So what the bet? I'm not
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: like this is Trent's decision. Trent Doug made a bet
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: that the same team they rolled out last year was
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: gonna get better. I would argue on defense they lost
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: a key component, but forget that, but that the guys
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: from year from last year, from twenty twenty two, we're
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: all gonna get better in twenty twenty three because the
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: only change substantial change on this team is the addition
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: to Calvin Ridley. That is it. They basically traded Calvin
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Ridley out for Marvin Jones, the new right tackle. It's
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: the same thing they had Juwan Taylor, who was their
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: best offensive lineman last year. They didn't sign them. They
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: went and replaced them with another guy who's a right tackle.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: And he just and he's not any Jawan Taylor this
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: year compared to John Taylor last year. Jowan Taylor was
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: much better last year, and so and Harrison's not a
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: significant drop off from Jawan.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Tayl No, But it's like, so they made a bet
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: and the reality is this offense is no better and
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: the defense outside of Josh Allen, is it putting up
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: any better numbers?
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: Well, Darius Williams has played better. The guys have played.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Better, Darius, Like I'm talking as a group.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: I mean, I would agree with you, there's not yet. Well.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, you drafted a blocking tight end and and
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: a running back in two and three and they do nothing.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: There's part of your problem.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Your blocking tight end has not been a big significant Uh.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Breton Strange, he has not been a significant part of
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: this offense, and he's been out for three weeks, has
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: been barely on the field, barely on the field. So
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: my point is saying that I'm not taking any shots
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: at Tran or Dug. I'm just saying that's reality. That's
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: the bet you made, and it's you're looking at a
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: very similar kind of situation.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Now, don't And I sent this tweet out last night,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Tony and you you would know better than me because
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: you were in there.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: They don't play tough.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: We've been saying this forever, I mean not forever, this
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: year quite a bit.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: It seems like forever.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: It just seems like a long time.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: And we it's not We're not a physical team. We've
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: been physical on defensive times. We were much better at
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: the beginning of the year against run and so they
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: played tough as of late. Overall, I guess we did
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: good against Cleveland to be fair stop in the run.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: But you wouldn't. You don't line up and come into
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: the stadium and watch the tape of our team and say, boy,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: they are physical. And I think a lot of that,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: and I'm a big believer is that the offensive line
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: sets the tone of physicality for a football team. And
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: we're not a physical offensive line.
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  Speaker 4: We're just not. We are a position block. We're not powerful.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: We don't move people.
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  Speaker 3: But from Trent Williams in San Francisco or the physical, yes.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: They come off the ball, they go downhill, they run
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: inside outside zone. They I mean, everything's on the players,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: like it's it's how you pa. It's not just it's
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: the players, and then how you call the play the game.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: They're a physically they're a physical unit and they have
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: a physical d line.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: They're really physical. On the defensive side. Well, they're physical.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: It's a physical team. They pat you up when you
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: play that like nobody ever said. Nobody says that about
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Jacksonville on either side of the ball.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: No, if you look at the Baltimore Ravens last night,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: they're a big because they're a big they have big bodies.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: They're big, they're physical. Hey, we gotta take a break.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: Okay, we'll come back more than the physicality or lack
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: thereof a little bit later. We'll come back to that
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: because that seems like a prevailing theme all season.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: We got to get to that.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: We'll come back and get into the Jaguars defensive performance
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: last night though against Lamar Jackson and the Ravens offense.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: Second hour, we'll keep it real and the fanatics fan questions.
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  Speaker 2: The Parson's a lot more season left.
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  Speaker 4: We fighters will find a way.
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  Speaker 5: Just know it's you know, gotta keep working to find
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: need to win.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: Never never easy at the NFL. Never easy. Every team's competitive.
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: We're competitive team too, So we'll get back to what
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: makes such successful for our best foot four. We gotta
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: keep being positive in a locker room and we gotta
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: work to win.
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  Speaker 4: We gotta know that it's Foier Lucan, the Jaguars inside
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  Speaker 4: YouTube And for a few moments here, let's get into
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: this Jaguars defensive performance yesterday. Overall, they allowed twenty three
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: points in the game and two.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Hundred and fifty plus yards rushing.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of that was late in the game, right,
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: but the point when you have to get stops, they
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: give me.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Ten points in the first half. I kept the game close.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I there's no doubt this is But this is what happens.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: To your point in fairness, I agree with you from
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: an individual, like for three quarters they hung in there
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: and were battling and it was ten to nothing and
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: that chance.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, so yes, it didn't look like a two
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty yard rushing performance, Tony.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: I know what you're talking about. Usually, when a.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Team's grinding on, your grinding on, your grinding on.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: It didn't look like I feel like that.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's what that's what the teams like the
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Ravens do, Pete.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: Yes, the rush.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: The rush game is not a situation where you know,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: you start off and it's like, oh, you know, we're
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: just five yards of pop from the get go. It's
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: it's body blows, it's it's hitting you downhill, it's continuous,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: it's converting the third down, it's coming and going, and
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: it's just and then in the fourth quarter the damn
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: breaks And that's what happened. The dam broke in the
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: fourth quarter. But yes, so in fairness, JP, I think
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: you're correct. I mean, they had forty two rushes. Now,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: twelve of those are Lamar Jackson. That's thirty rushes by
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: their backs. We had thirteen by the backs by the backs. Yeah,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: they had two point fifty one. We had seventy five.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: It's hard to win a football game when you can't
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: stop the run and you can't run the ball. That
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: goes back to the physical nature. Now, did I think
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: they had a good game plan?
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: And did they?
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Were they in there fighting their tails off absolutely for
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: three quarters. You gotta do it for four Now, did
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: they get any help from their offense at all?
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: Zero zero?
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Their offense couldn't convert third downs, They couldn't stay on
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: the field.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: So even when they missed the field goals, right, they
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: the Ravens got the ball at midfield, short field, they
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: got off the field both times.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: They played their tails off, and they did a pretty
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: good job in third down two they're five or twelve,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: the Ravens were. It's not like outstanding, but it's good,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: good football. And so I, Pete, I I know what
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: you're saying.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: It didn't feel like two fifty one until you watch
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: the fourth quarter and they were just going.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Here's ten, here's twelve, here's you know.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: It was just it's a shame that little runner got hurt. Man,
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: he's a good player. Done for the year, right, Pete, Yeah,
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: he's done for the year. I loved him. He was
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: one of my favorite guys in the draft and he
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: you know, I always have that team of guys I
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: like better than the scouts, and he was on there.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: I hated to see that because he's got some juice.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Man, he can go acl correct Pete, Uh yeah, I
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: think so.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: That's bad the way it happened is like his late
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: Did you see how.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Super extended it? Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a tough deal.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean the question you ask yourself. Did
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: the defense play winning football for three quarters, no doubt about.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: It, and did a really good job in the secondary,
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: I thought, covering people except for that one bust and
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: on the tight and the one you talked about on
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: the tight.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they just I mean it was a good
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: throw route, good scheme.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: I think it was either Brown or Jenkins was supposed
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: to be on him.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: I really don't know, but so yeah, overall, the defense
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: played their tails off.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: I mean they were physical. I thought Trayvon was Trayvon
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: played a good game. He was physical, flying around.
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: I mean, Lamar.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Jackson's tough to deal with, He's tough to get on
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: the ground.
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: That might have been his best best game.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I thought, yeah, he's he's Trayvon.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was tough.
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: Tony's writing.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: He was knocking people back and you know those tackles
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: aren't bad. He knocked them back a couple of times.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought both and Josh was knocking Staley back.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: By the way on the uh and again this is
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: nitpicking on my part, but you know in the past,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: the cooler down to the goal line.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: You know who was in coverage on that.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Play, don't you, Josh Allen?
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I hate that.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh so yeah, defense, I mean great effort,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: just and I get it. But if you want to
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: be a great defense a game like that, you make
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: sure it's ten to seven and you give your your
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: offense every opportunity to the last possible second. That's, by
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: the way, that is really hard to do, because that's
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: a good Ravens team. Yeah, and I did think overall,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: setting aside the two fifty one, which I mean it's
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: two fifty one fifty one always laughing, defensive coaches said, yeah,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: but if you take away the quarterback and you take
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: away it was four plays, it it's not bad. But
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: the defense showed up. I'll say that they showed up
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Sunday night football. They were ready to go. They had
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: a good plan. They were flying around.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: It's just so hard to spy him and get him
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: on the g I mean they used Chase On as
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: a spy a couple of times.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: I thought they had a good plan. It's just hard
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: when you're getting nothing from your offense.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: But this, I mean like that play was killer right there.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: That was a third, that was third ten two, and
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: they went and scored the first trutch that touchdown.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: Nothing phases Lamar, Like you can have things breaking down
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: in the pocket. He just steps or slides or moves
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: up and then all of a sudden he flicks his
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: wrists and he's got fifteen years.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, JP, I know, Pete, you're old enough. Were
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: you old enough when there was Techmo Bowl around? Oh? Yes?
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: He remember, like Bo Jackson was, there was the one
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: player you couldn't stop.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: You couldn't stop.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: It was literally programmed to not stop.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: You couldn't stop him. And it's like that's what I
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: felt like last night with Lamar.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Hey, let's come back. We gotta get into special team.
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: That's another thing we get to talk about too, is
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: how they played him, because I thought they did have
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: a good plan, but it's still impossible to keep him contained.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's tough, he's so good. We're back in a moment.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's gonna happen.
• 42:44
  Speaker 7: It's hard to win in the NFL, especially this late
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: in the season. You know, every team we just played
• 42:48
  Speaker 7: is fighting for playoff spots. I mean, obviously Baltimore is
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: in a little different situation, but I mean it's hard
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: to win this league, especially in November and December because
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: everybody's trying to get playoff positioning. That's just when we
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: got to be a little bit more urgent and a
• 43:02
  Speaker 7: little bit more consistent and just take her the ball
• 43:05
  Speaker 7: a little bit better.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: Oh bright spot from yesterday, Jamal Agnew back from the
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: injured list coming off his shoulder issue.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Welcome back.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: It's Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwick, Tony Biselli, Pee Prisco.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: Winding down the opening hour an hour two. We will
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: get some fanatics, fan questions and keep it real as
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: we always do. But Agnew of course made an instant
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: difference a punt return for what seventeen yards? Three kickoff
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: returns were an average of just over thirty yards per return.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: Not much to show for any of those after the
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: field position, and he did score the only Jaguars points
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: of the game on the deep touchdown.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: So Agnew's pack he played great, he did. I'll tell
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: you this, I might, If I might tell Agnew, stand
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: at stand five year yards deep in the end zone
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: and if you can catch it, if it's in front
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: of you, take it out green light, green light? Why
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: not right green light? Because he is Yeah, he'll get
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: tackled short of the twenty five few times, but he
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: also is he has a chance to take it to
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: the house or at least give me a great field position.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: He is.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: He is really good at what he does.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: He is a very good and I like seeing him
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: go deep.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now he's had to play a much bigger role
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: moving forward. It'll be interesting how he handles it because
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: he's not a natural receiver. He's you know, he was
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: a draft He was drafted as a corner, became a
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: return specialist, just outstanding, and then last year he was
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: more of a like a Swiss army knife gadget gadget
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: gimmick like jet sweeps do different things and I know.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I mean he you know, would love be out there
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: as much as he can. I wonder how much he's
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: gress from last year to this year as a pure
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: route running receiver.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: This this one was a bust. But you know what
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: I liked about it, Tony gets his head around right now.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: There it is.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing. That guy is not running with
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: him even if he tries to carry him.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: No, that's the good thing. He still has the juice
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: even after the injuries and stuff.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he has juice. It'd be interesting to see what
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: they how they use them. And is he ready as
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: a receiver. I know he's ready physically, I mean he's
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: and mentally he's a tough, tough dude. Is he ready
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: from a game plan game book technique, like running routes
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: is like you have It's not like, hey, it's like
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: we're just going to play backyard, just say go up
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: ten and break it out, run it down and out.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: It's like you have to understand coverage, I mean spots.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a lot of timing. Where is he
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: at in that progression? We're gonna find out because they
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: need him. They they need him in a big way offensively.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Moving forward, with you know, Kirk on ir nothing official.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: My guess is based on the injury that Zay isn't
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: gonna be ready for Tampa. And so now you're looking
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: at Ridley Washington.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: The kidder dropped the ball.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Oh oh, you're thinking of fourteen Olga cook Elijah.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: Cooks, Cooks and uh and Jones and Evan Ingram.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Well, he's a tight end. I'm thinking you could use
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: him more as a receiver.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: You're to is there anybody else who do they have
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: on that practice squad? Do they have anybody on there?
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Because they're gonna have to add one.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: There's a couple of guys they got, they got. We'll
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: come back in the second hour and get to this fully.
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: But they've got Jacob Harris, They've got Seth Williams at
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: wide receiver on the practice squad.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Somebody's have to come up. We're back in a moment.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: Second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour right around the corner.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: We we'll get to.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: The fanatics, fan questions. We'll keep it real because we
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: haven't already. After a Jaguars lost to the Ravens twenty
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: three to seven, the first hour of Jaguars Happy Hour
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• 47:28
  Speaker 2: We feel like we're still a good.
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: Football team, and we've we've played like.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: It at times.
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: Right, It's just at times we don't look very good,
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: you know, and last night was offensive. We didn't look
• 47:41
  Speaker 6: very good at times, but there were moments of of
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: you know, you can kind of play with anybody.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: Head coach Doug Peterson Today and welcome back. It's the
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  Speaker 4: second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Mister Chubby's Wings.
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  Speaker 5: J P.
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  Speaker 4: Shadwick with Hall of Famer Tony Basselli. We're at the
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  Speaker 4: Hunday Studios at the Miller Electric Center in Jacksonville, Pete Prisco,
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: CBS Sports Senior Rider down in South Florida. We're recapping
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: the Jaguars loss to the Baltimore Ravens twenty three to seventh,
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: the final score on Sunday Night Football, the Jaguars first
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: appearance on Sunday Night since two thousand and eight. The
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: Jags have now dropped their third consecutive game. Trevor Lawrence
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: lost two fumbles. The Jags were zero for three in
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: the red zone, including a point blake chance in the
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: final seconds of the first half when Parker Washington was
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: tackled in bounds and the clock ran out, and the
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: Jaguars missed two field goals as well. After the game,
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: Warrens ended up in the league's concussion protocol. No updates
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: today from the head coach. Jags defense, for the most part,
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: kept the game close. Lamar Jackson got his yardage on
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: the ground. Tight ends were hurt. I actually hurt the
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: Jags most of the night. They ran the ball a
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: lot late on the Jaguars defense. The Jaguars are now
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: tied for first places in the AFC South at eight
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: and six with the Texans and Colts, but the Jaguars
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: do hold that they had to head tie breakers with
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: each no room for error, though the Texans and Colts
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: do play each other in Week eighteen, and a lot
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: of questions about this team now and the ability to
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: finish with three straight losses against the AFC North now
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: and now back to back games against the NFC South
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: coming up the Buccaneers this week, one of those first
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: place teams in that division, and then a home game
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: against the Carolina Panthers.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: That's the state of.
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: Affairs on this Monday after Week fifteen, going into Week sixteen.
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: It's Christmas week and there's coal in the stocking right now. Yeah.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: The only thing I'd add to that, JP is for
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: all those not familiar with the we have the tiebreaker
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: right now, and we are the one team of the
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: eight and six teams in the AFC South that controlled their.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: Own destiny, correct, And so if we win every game,
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: nobody can overtake.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Right now, I think the Colts Priked. I think the
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Colts in Houston both control their own destiny for a
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: wild card I think if they get to eleven and.
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: Six, because they play each other the last game, right.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: So one of them will get could get to eleven
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: and six if they win the other two. But we
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: control our own destiny. If you look at the next three,
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: they're all critical. The most important one is the Titan
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: game because if the Texans beat the If the Texans
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: run the table and they beat the Colts and we
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: lose the Titans and we have the same record, then
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: you get into like conference you go down there because
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: we'll both have the same division record and it could
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: get dicey there. So the good news is you control
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: your own destiny and you play a first place team
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: in the Bucks. But then you play two last place
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: teams in their division in Carolina, Tennessee. So the sky
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: you know, I know last night, in the last three
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: weeks have been tough, but the sky's not falling yet.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: It's sitting right in front of them. It's December football.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: We talked about this. I think you know, when we
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: we thought about what the record would be. Pete is
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: way off. He said, thirteen and four, or maybe it
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: was fourteen three one of the.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: Two thirteen thirty. Yeah, I'm off.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're way off, I said.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: I said they'd be eleven and six. So I got
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: a chance to be right yet I'm not saying but
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: my point. But we also talked about I felt like
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: this would come down to having to win games in
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: December to win the division.
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: And that's where we're at.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: But you're in first place in the like a lot
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: better than where we were last year, when you had
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: everything that you had to have everything, every ball bounce
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: your way to sneak into the playoffs. Now you can
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: sit here and you can control it, and you can
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: march into the playoffs, go win three straight and feel
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: great about yourself and get a home playoff game.
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: See what happens the schedule's not daunting.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: No, and Pete you know this. And I don't think
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: either of us would say, based on how the team's
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: playing right now, they're going to do anything in the playoffs.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: But I've been part of teams and I've watched this
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: league long enough.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you get you get.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Hot at the right time, you can find yourself going deep.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'll go back. I mean two teams that
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Tom Coughlin coached, one in the ninety six Jaguars. Like
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: everyone talks about that magical season, let me just remind
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: everybody we needed a thirty three yard field goal missed
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: by a future Hall of Famer in Morton Anderson, and
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: he slipped and shanked it left for us to get in.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: And then we got hot and we built the Bills.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: We beat the Broncos and and we did we should
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: have beat the Patriots go Super Bowl. We didn't play
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: well at the end. And you go look at those
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Giants teams. They were nine and seven, snuck in as
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: a wild card and went and won the Super Bowl
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: and beat an at and O Patriots team. So it's
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: bad right now. The way this team is playing right now,
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: they won't make the playoffs. The way they're playing, they
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: won't beat the Bucks. I think anyone can beat the
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Parent Panthers.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: Right now, So I mean except the Falcons, except for
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: the Falcons because they lost to him yesterday.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: And then you and they need the and the Jaguars
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: need the Falcons this week by the way they play
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: the Colts.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: They play the Colts, and then you have Tennessee, which
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: is gonna be tough no matter what division game, and
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: if we have to win that to get into the
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: playoffs and the win division, let me tell you what,
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Mike Raible will have that team ready to do whatever
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: it takes not to do that. Now, are we a
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: better team than them, yes, record proves that, but this
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: team has to play better. So don't worry about because
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: Pete's right, it's like every one of these teams on
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: the schedule, and Doug said it, we can play with
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: anybody at times and other times we look like we
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: don't know what you know, which ends up and so
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: don't worry about the schedule. Don't worry about the Titans,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, the Colts or the Texans are doing because
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: if you start playing better football, you'll get in and
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: then anything can happen.
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: Anything, and think about this.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: If they got in and they won the division, they
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: went the next three and they got in, they'd probably
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: played Cleveland, who they could have easily beat on the
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: road when they that's right.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's still nobody in the AFC look out bad.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: We played last night. It was ten to three late
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: in the third a jump ball the best team. It
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: was a jump ball and we could not have played
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: worse offensively in the first half, missfield goals, fumble in
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: the red zone, and just bad situation management at the end.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: So we say this all the time on the show.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: It's never as good as you think it is, and
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: it's never as bad as you think it is. It's
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: pretty darn bad in the first time, it's.
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: Not as bad.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Like you go watch the tape, you're like, okay, that's
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: like you should drive me crazy because Tom, and you
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: probably remember this. Tom always, I remember as a rookie'd say,
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: NFL game is decided by five to seven plays a game.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: That's who decides who wins and loses the NFL. He said.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: I listened to him the first time. He said, you're crazy,
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: old man, what are you talking about? It should be
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: sixty five seventy plays. But then he went on to say,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: he says, the problem is you don't know which of
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: those five to seven are gonna make the difference whether
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: you win or lose. You gotta go play every one
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: like it's the most important play of the game. And
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: you know what, he was right, because you go back
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: to that game yesterday, change the outcome of five to
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: seven plays.
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: The Jaguars win. You go like a Cleveland if they
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: change the outcome of three bus they win that game.
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: They win that game.
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah. No, he's right, that's the same way every game.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: It's the same way every game. The problem is you
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: don't know what it is. And the problem is is
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: if you beat this is why you have to start
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: by not beating yourself. And Doug said it in his pressure,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: control what you can control, and that is known your assignments,
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: good situational football, no pre stat penalties.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: Tony, you mentioned getting hot and those teams that you
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: were on this ninety sixteen and the Giants team those
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: teams had you guys were a young team, but you
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: had a lot of veterans around that team that could
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: kind of guide you a little bit, you know what
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but and.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: The Giants team had Strahan and a lot of guys
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: People remember ninety sixteen, how many of those veterans have
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: ever been in the playoffs?
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: Good point, you know Simons postseason, like the overe was
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: a veteran.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Logs had as much playoff experience as I did.
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: Going to that.
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: Boy, he'd been around the league. I'm just telling they'd
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: been around the league.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: I know, I'm joking with you. I know what you're saying.
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So I think that mattered.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: That's the difference I think between that team see, and
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: I think that's a problem with this team.
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: I said this on Frank Show the other day.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: I think this team somehow gets full of itself when
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: they start playing really well, and you could see with
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: all the busts and the mistakes and everything else, that
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: the work, for whatever reason, in the same.
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: The focus isn't the same.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: The false starts, they happen, and I think that's a
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: byproduct of being a young team. So at some point
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: they got to start stop acting like a young team
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: and go play.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, But Peterson made this point the other day. I
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: mean the young team stuff. If it's week fifteen, if
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: you're a rookie at the start of the year. Hold
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: on a rookie.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Hold on, let's let's go. Let's go through the pre
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: snapt only yesterday. Evan Ingram, veteran Brandon Sheriff, one of
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: the oldest guys on the team. Walker third year player,
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: so still younger, but still third year player. These aren't
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: guys who just showed up. Go look at the bus
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: in the Cleveland game. Yeah, Like, what I know was
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: one of two guys. It's either Ray, Sean or Darius.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not pointing the figure out either one, both veteran players,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: both good guys, you know the.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: One the veteran players aren't putting the work in, then.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not my Pete all I'm saying.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying whether they're putting the work in or not.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: I don't buy the young team, is my point. Like
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: we are now. I get what you're saying.
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: The group's going together now for a second year. That's
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: the end of the second year. You shouldn't be seeing
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: this in the year two.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: But and I just go back to like the bigger
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: point about Pete, and I know you agree with this,
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: is like just find a way to get in because
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: then you can get hot. Look at two years ago
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: the Bengals went to the Super Bowl. Nobody had that
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: on their Bengal list. No, and and by the way,
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: they had a chance. If Aaron Donald does not sack
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase had run past Jalen Ramsey, they
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: win the game.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: Like so like, yeah, I agree, I agree, Tony, get in,
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: get hot and maybe have a chance.
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: Here, here's what we haven't really gone through.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: What how everybody played on Sunday night, So we need
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: to go We'll talk about the I think we need
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: to talk about the quarterback a little bit more. I
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: think we needed the offensive line, uh, some of the
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: other positions. And uh and I know Jp you want
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: to keep it real too.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: So we can do that. We'll keep it real with
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: all that. How about that? No, yeah, but I just
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: think we got a level set after a game and
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: you're on a three game losing streak, and it's to me,
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: it's almost it's not binary, but it's close. If you
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: don't play better beating anybody, you're not getting in. If
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: you find a way to get in, you have as
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: much of a chance as anybody else to go win
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: the whole dang thing.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: Hey, Tony, we've got mister Chubby's wings outside today. We
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: were on location last week we were and now we've
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: got the wings here. They bring it for our production
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: staff each and every wings, casas and mazzarella sticks.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: So you get a little You went three for three
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: on that JP, so.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: We got so basically you're telling me we got a
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: like a multi ethnic Schmorgesport. You got Italian cheese sticks.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: Okay, you got case Dia, you have Buffalo wings.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: I guess that's Buffalo American.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: So I'm just.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: Saying, but Chubbies does it all. It's like you can
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: get the whole.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: Platter when you're in Italy. Do you ever see do
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: you ever see cheese sticks when you're in Italy?
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: No?
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: But you know, but you go to you go to
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: most you go to most of the Italian restaurants, you
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: get the cheese sticks.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: I love cheese sticks, but they're not that really Italian there.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: When he goes to that famous Italian place called Pizza Hut,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: it's the.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: Chiefs, but they have cheese. I mean, you got what
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. Something well done, mister Chubbies.
• 1:01:11
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• 1:01:14
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• 1:01:16
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  Speaker 6: Not at liberty to speculate with head injuries, so I
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 6: can't I can't say one way or the other. This
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 6: gramble play. I think it was the last one that
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 6: he got hit on. Potentially, It's hard to say, but
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 6: you know, continue to play, you know, the rest of
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: the game, and then he self disclosed after the game
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 6: to our docks and our trainers.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: That's head coach Doug Peterson today discussing Trevor Lawrence in
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: the concussion protocol after the game and the loss to
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: the Baltimore Ravens and welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour on
• 1:02:26
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• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: JP Shadwick Tony Boselli, Pete.
• 1:02:29
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  Speaker 4: to Pete's laundry list of things to discuss here, there's
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: a lot, Pete, starting with the play of the quarterback
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: before the concussion issue and.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: The offense just as a whole.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: Right now, we've touched on this obviously in the first hour,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: but now what with three to go.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think there's something off about his game.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: And I go back to early in the year when
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: he was sped up a little bit. I think he's
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: his mechanics have been sped up. He's been sped up.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: He's not setting his feet, he's leaning back sometimes when
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: he throws. I'm not a quarterback, you know, coach or anything,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: but look at the there's no follow through to the target.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: It just some of the mechanics seem to have waned.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: And these are passes he normally would hit. Now this
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: one we just showed the Ridley. I think Ridley flattened
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: that route out a little bit and he thought he
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: was going to, you know, to the corner a little
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: bit more so.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: I think that was more of a miss.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: This one here, that was more of a miscommunication or
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: you know, not working on the same page.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: But the one the ay Jones in the middle of
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: the field, he has to hit that. Uh.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: And there was another one in the middle. I think
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: it's to Ridley. He overshot him too. This one. I
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: think he thought, since there was a guy inside that
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: Evan's gonna pivot and go back out. And it was
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: definitely pressure coming at him. But all in all, like
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: this one here, he's got to hit that that that's mechanics,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: he's falling back.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: He's got to hit that second.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: Well, the last one we saw a second and ten
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: mid fourth quarter and you know, seven fifty to go
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: or so.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: So you're putting Evan ingram one on him on third
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: and three.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: No, I'm not put I'm not putt. I don't know
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: who that was on.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: I just think he expected him to go out a
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: little bit with the guy on the inside there.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure who that's on.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: It's hard for me to get until we know how
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: they read that out, you know what I mean.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: I still think he threw it a little quick actually,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: I think he had an X.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: I think he had a blitz coming at him.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I thought he had an extra h. I listen,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: you know there's not a bigger Trevor fan. I just
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: didn't think he played well last night. I mean, I'll
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: just make it as simple as I can. I don't
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: think he was very accurate. I thought the end of
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: the first half. Whether you want to blame Doug or him,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: ultimately he's the quarterback. He's got no better not to
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: throw that ball. So I I just he had a
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: bad game. Happens, hm, unfortunate.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: So all right, Tony, did you think he left some
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: pockets that were actually okay?
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: Two? At times? I did. I thought he left the
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: couple that were okay.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: Nothing jumped out of me, Pete, like, I don't think
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: he was malicious, and I'll give.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: You one and it wasn't awful or anything.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: But and he made a play on it where he
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: flicked the ball to Etn on that on that first
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: in the first quarter.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: I think it was when he picked remember where he just.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: The pocket was squeezing on him though, Pete.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he had he could have stepped up, he had,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know that was Yeah, I just again, mechanically,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: he's not. He doesn't look like this. You know, he's
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: not driving the ball like he did. And that's not
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: to say his arm isn't the same because he still
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: got the big arm. I do think his arm was
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: impacted on that one sideline throw after he got hit though.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there was about three or four and you
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: can see him shaking, trying to shake it out.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: I think he was hand had that. He got hit
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: pretty hard on that one scrambled and fourth quarter it's
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: like a.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: Little stinger down your arm tone because you think.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: That he won hoped two in a row that he
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: couldn't even get there and you could see him trying
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: to get feeling in his arm.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 8: So he was not Can I say this about that
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 8: quarterback too, that is a tough man because I personally,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 8: and this is my belief, I think that concussion happened
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 8: when he got his head slacked.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: I do too, Pete, I'm with you. I thought the ground.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so in the third quarter, I think that's what
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: he got.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: Play the entire rest of the game.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: If you watch his head, his head bounces off the
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: turf right here we're looking at him.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, Yeah, that was I saw that happen.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: I was like, that's not good.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: That's where it happened.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: And in fact, they probably should have somebody should have
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: buzzed down and got him on the sideline.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: Now, also on the play where he was kind of
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: squeezing his hand and trying to shake his arm out,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: I mean he he got a forearm shiver from ro
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: Kwan Smith on that plate. Yeah, I mean, I'm not
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: in a head. There's no talent. I'm not saying it
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: happened on this play.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I think it did. You
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: just don't know, or maybe it built up is the Yeah,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: who knows. I mean, the concussion can happen on multiple hits.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: But if you listen, you talk about the thing to
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: watch most closely this week is that it's all matters. Yeah,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: it's big, it's real.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: Bid is he is he technically in the concussion protocol
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: last night?
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: He self reported himself last night and the doctors and
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: trainers said, yeah, you're in the protocol.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: So it's like a five step process to get back. Well,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: we know a guy can get back from one having
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: a concussion Sunday and play the following Sunday Rock Party
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: just did it two weeks.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: Ago, Pete three weeks ago.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't happen all the time though.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, there's a chance he won't. I'm
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: just saying there's probably a better chance that he won't
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: than he will. I disagree with that. You don't. You
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: don't know, no, because every guy's different. Everyone's body heals differently,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: everyone's body reacts differently. You don't know the severity of it.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, some guys get concussions and it's like a month.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: They just can't get over it. They get you know,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: can't bright lights bother them, nauseous, all that stuff. Other
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: guys get concussion and they're rolling. I mean I only
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: had one.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, back.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: When Pete covered us, they didn't really talk about concussion.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: They didn't talk about concussions like they do now.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: You would have never you would have never said that, well,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: you didn't.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: Think about it. It wasn't like the only like you had.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: I had headaches all the time after games, and so
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: you never I mean, we weren't trained to think that way.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: It is now like that's it's in the zeitgeis. I mean,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: that's how people think and like it's and I'm not
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: saying trying to protect guy's heads. That's important because the
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: only concussion I had that was diagnosed as a concussion
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: in the NFL was for me was paying the Ravens,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: and I gave it to myself because I was chasing
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: a It was either a fumble or pick that Mark
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: either dropped or through and I dove because I was
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: so mad trying to tackle the guy. I missed the
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: guy over the pile and somehow I landed headfirst into
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: the turf and I knocked myself. I remember, I couldn't.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I was knocked out, but I
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: wasn't getting up and they came out and got me.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: It was the last play before the half, and I
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: was back on the field second play of the second half,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: and I woke up the next day. There was no
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: concussion protocol or anything like that, and I felt like
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: felt lousy the next day. But by Wednesday at practice
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: I was back practice. I felt fine. Like I mean, now,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: maybe if I knew what the symptoms were back then,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: I wasn't feeling fine, but I didn't. I mean, I was.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: There was no impact that I had felt so my
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: point is, so.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: I'll make this discomfort from your concussion sometimes get.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, getting nauseous. I didn't feel great that night. I
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: can't remember pe if I was. I didn't throw up
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: or anything like that. I didn't feel right.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: I didn't feel right the next day, but by Wednesday
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: it was like, no headache. I was like, okay, I'm
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: fine and I was back on the field.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 5: But you have to go through a battery attach.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: That's my point. I could have been messed up and
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: I had no idea. There was no testing back then.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: I mean it was literally me yelling at the doctor
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: that I was going back in the game on the sideline.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: You play in that week? Is why you get all
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: worked up when I start arguing with you on here.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: Huh oh probably, Yes, I probably had some issues and
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: You got something that happened that week that brings the
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: anger out.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: Something happened, And so it's much better now because they
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: had protocols. We know more about concussions. I mean there's
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: I mean in high school. I mean remember I mean
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: smelling salts in high school. I remember I got back
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: from a game. I couldn't remember my locker combination. I mean,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: there's games in college where you like you black out
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: on the field, like but no one, you didn't think
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: No, they jammed the thing in your nose and tell
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: you to sniff it and get back in the game.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: And I was and I'm not saying that's right. It
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: doesn't make us.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: Better, just like not drinking water during practice.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean that's everything you used to have
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: to have, like permission from the coach to go have
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: a water break and.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: Think about that for two.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: Days hot ninety degrees, like you're punished, or the punishment was.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: We had three in practice, three days in Florida heat.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: The coach wouldn't let us have a water break. We
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: had one break. So you know what we did, Tony.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: We filled up our helmet full of water and drank
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: from the hole in the helmet on the way back.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: It's disgusting.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: I mean. But and so that's a long story saying
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: is some of this is out of this is out
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: of Trevor's control, because he's gonna go through a batteries
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: of tests and protocols and to make sure he's okay.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: Because you gotta put like, especially a guy like Trevor,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: because you know if there's any chance he's gonna play.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: Just look at this year with the MCL, the high ankle.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, the guy is gonna push himself to be
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: out there. And when it comes to head injuries, this
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: is where you need and this is what the NFL's
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: put this concussion protocol in place. You need the doctors
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: and the trainers should protect the player from himself. And
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: that's why he'll go through these tests. It's out of
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: his hands and it's we'll find out, probably not till
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: late this week because if it's a five step process,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: so I assume JP and Pete maybe you know, I
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: don't know a lot about this. Today's day one, well,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: just doing simple math. Day five is Friday, correct, So
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: you're probably not gonna hear anything until Friday night or Saturday,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: whether he's playing or not, that would be my guess.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: That's I mean, right.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 5: Now, as we sit here on Monday, you think he plays.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: I think he plays too.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: I have, By the way, I have zero medical proof
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: of that. I have not talked to Trevor.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: I haven't talked to anyone about his and by the way,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: no one's gonna say anything because I don't think they're allowed,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: So I have no it's just my gut that says
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: he'll be out there. I think he has like I
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: think his parents passed some special genes healing jeans or
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: something that he just I think he's I think, and
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: I think he'll try to do everything he can to play.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: But if he can't, he can't, and that's probably best
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: for him. If the doctors and they're all just say
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: he's not ready, then he shouldn't be out there.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: It's not it's not calling Nick Foles aging nick Foles.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: Because you have to when it comes to head injuries,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: you have to protect guys against themselves.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: And that's why I think it's he self reported himself
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: because obviously he felt symptoms and he's did.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: The right thing.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: He didn't feel right, absolutely, because guy, like listen, you
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: see it all the time. I'm convinced the guys will
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: make up an injury if they can't get up on
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: the field at times, if they're kind of dinged, oh.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: It's my shoulder.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: They don't want to call the head injury because you
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: know today in today's NFL, if if you get diagnosed
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: with the head injury, it's out of your hands. It's
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: not like it's you rolled your ankle. Can you tough
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: it out? Even if you want to tough it out
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: an injury? The NFL has put things in place. They
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: have independent they're all just they have these like everyone's
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: a high alert and they should be.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: That was Keeping It Real, presented by wood Bridge by
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  Speaker 4: Robert Mundavi, Open Up a Winner Today, Real Ingredients Award
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: winning line by Robert Mundavi and Tony. You might not
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: be a doctor, however you did get the word zeitgeist
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: into the show, Toy. That was impressive.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: Pete, Pete, do you even know what zeitgeist means?
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 5: Do you? J P?
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: What is it?
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: It's like a mood of an era. Yeah, it's like
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: the air. It's like what's going on? It's like, what's
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: kind of like the feeling of that time period?
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: That's a loose way, what's.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 5: The feeling of the time period? How did you reference that?
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: I didn't even hear it.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: Of the concussion protocols, it's.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it's kind of like thet how it's how
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: people operates the you know kind of that's impressive.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look at how we look at the concussions now
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: compared to when.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like a different it's a different feeling
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: and culture of like's like, here's a good example, like
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: when we were playing and you were covering this team,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: no one cared if you had a concussion. It's like,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: suck it up, get back out there. And not because
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: they were bad and no one we didn't think about
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: it the right way. People viewed it differently. And now
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: since the lawsuit from the NFL p or the players
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: against the NFL, the ruling and now they have all
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: these things, it forced everyone to take a hard look
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: because of CT and whatever at it, and now it's
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: a much different feeling of how we view.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: He and jo I. I just wanted to compliment you
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: on your usage of the word thank you.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: It was well done.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot going on here. I mean, this is
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: we're figuring out the offense.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: Not really what do we figure out about the offense?
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: I missed that, figured out that they didn't play well
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: last night? Okay, I figured out he got that going.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: For you, So that's good. Pete's learning new words. We're
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: educating Pete, Pete.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: I like, that's something big for me that I actually
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: educated you on a word.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 5: I would never use that word.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: It's nothing shocked by that at all. Not the point
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: question number one would make what.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 5: Just because you use a word when you can use
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 5: something else, JP, that makes you so you can use.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: Something much simpler, So why would you make it more complicated?
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: I agree? I agree. You make it where everybody can
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: understand what you're saying.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: Right right, JP. I heard you doing a game the
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 5: other day.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: By the way, Oh hey, thanks, Pete. I appreciate.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: I feel like I just got rip for using the
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah you did a good word properly. You're trying to
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: act smart because you went to southern California, which you
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: don't need to do.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: You can just talk normally like, but you.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: Didn't do exactly what.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: I knew exactly what you meant because I'm a little smart,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: albeit smarter than Pete. He went to Alabama. I did, yeah,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: Harvard to the South. He went to ask you that
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: every party school, party school.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: I scored fourteen on my SAT. I don't know what
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 5: you're talking, Pete.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for listening. Pete.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: Saturday night, Yeah, I heard you.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, nice job.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: J P does a good job. He's very good.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 5: It really does.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: Li Lions did a good job Saturday night too.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 5: By the way, you're like the Lion. You're like the
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: Lions played by play guys.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: I need to get an apartment in Detroit. I think
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: I've been this nine nights in Detroit this year, FOURIGN
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: training camp, three Thanksgiving to this weekend.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: Let's get to the questions.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: Shout the cat signal is out here is the best
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: we come up with at Saint Ogg Underscore Jags Fan?
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: Are the playoffs still a lot?
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: I'm out of the lock business.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: For the record, we figured that out last week. I'm out,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: So I'm out. So you guys talk amongst yourself.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: This is an easy one for me. Lock the playoffs,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: it's a lock.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 5: Whoa. Even if Treumvor doesn't play this, it's a lock.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: Pete, you heard what I said. It's a lock. He
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: didn't stutter it not.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 5: I'm not going that far. Yeah, because well I'm not.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 5: I just I'm a realist.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: I'm not a pomp pom waiver like you, but I'm
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: a realist.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: What part of this show today made me sound like
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: a pom pom.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: Where when you were questioning Doug for not spiking the football.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: First of all, I'm going to ask a neutral person here, JP. Yes, Tony,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: did I say on the air that I disagreed and
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: I would have spiked the ball?
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: You said, in fact, Pete, I agree with you. I
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: would have spiked the ball. However, there are multiple ways
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: to do it.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, But same thing I mean I said, I like.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: Well, that's like hedging, It's like hedging what you're saying.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: It's not hedging it at all, Pete.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: It's actually saying or the other, which do you think
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: what he was wrong about?
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 5: Was he wrong?
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: Because there's no Okay, we can we can both sit
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: here and say Trevor was wrong.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Trevor shouldn't have thrown the ball.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: Okay, now we can. I can sit here and say
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: I think Doug was wrong. You will say you would
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: have disagreed with him, but you're gonna say he was wrong.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: Based on the play execution. They were everyone was wrong.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying philosophically what he said after patally, no,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: philosophically what he said after the game about the situation. Okay,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: I disagree. I don't. I would take a different pact.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: But he's not the only person in the NFL that
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: things going faster. It gives you an advantage and.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 5: Go they're all wrong.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: Okay, Pete's the smartest guy in football.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 5: Just ask might be I give myself more. I'll tell
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: you that.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: So I don't know where I was pomp.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: I'm waving.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: I have no problem. I love this franchise.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: I put it up.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: So you're not locking for the record Pete, you're not
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: locking no.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: Hell no, and JP you can never lock anything in out.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: I'm out of the lock business.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: By the way, people were all saying, you don't let JP.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: You know, somebody actually was really harsh and they said,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: let triple lock Trent Bulky Ego or something.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 5: I saw that on Twitter.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, but here's the here's the good news. The triple
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: lock curses over.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: You.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: Triple locked it. We lost three in a row, We've
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: paid our penance, we are free, We're going to win.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: It's like the groups of three, like Jack White. Next
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 4: question at Brandon Bush eight one seven, are you worried
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 4: about Trevor? Is this team just not that good and
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: he's trying to play hero ball and it's just not
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: working out? Once that course, are you worried about trevor Or?
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: Is this team just not that good?
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: How about he had a bad game?
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: Is this really the secret media member ball thing?
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: Is another way of saying, is he pressing because of
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: what's around them and what's happening around him?
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 5: And the answer to that question I would say.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: Is yes, yeah, I don't think, but it's not hero ball.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 5: That's that's a strange way to describe it. I think
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 5: he is pressing at times.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 4: Though you still have a named the media member you
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: were crushing opening in the show.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 5: You know what you could, you know what you can do.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 5: You can figure it out. I think I know who
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 5: it is.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to. Yeah, if you guysn't, okay, But
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: I didn't bring it up. I'm not I brought up.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: I brought it up saying I'm not going to say
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: the guy's name. Why not because I don't want to.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 5: Didn't you bring up I'll say his name. I know
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: who it is. Go ahead and say it thing it
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 5: was hacker.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: Do you confirm or deny this, Tony, I'm just confirming
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: this that I think it's a I think it's a
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: ridiculous comment. I think I think it's a ridiculous comment
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: to make.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: Well, and I don't think he was making the comment.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: If I read it right, he wasn't making comment to
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: say he would take Gardner Minshew over Trevor Lawrence, because
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: I think he actually said he wouldn't.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: I'm tweet the media guys.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: In two years that he's just shredded you.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's too.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: He had Hayes a few years ago, and he was
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 4: trying to fire Todd wash and now it's this.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: One about me back in the day when I covered
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: the team.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 4: All right, our next question, let's move along at jaws
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: nine six zero six O eight. I've noticed our O
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: line never takes exception when opposing players get a little
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: extra twist pull or forearm shot on Trevor. Where's the nastiness?
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: Where are the enforcers? Bisselli and Circe would have been fighting?
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, before we get to this, I'm gonna read this
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: tweet out loud and Pete, it was a perfect lead
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: into that. And Pete, if you tell me what this says,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: this may be a had time to bring it up.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: But Gardner mische went into Baltimore and beat the Ravens
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: on their home field earlier this year. Like you're what
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: you're saying there? What do you what you what are
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: you saying there?
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 4: Pete?
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: When you said he's just irritating people like you, no,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: what did he follow up with another one?
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: Though?
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: I think after he got a bunch of heat, I
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: was just joking. Well, it didn't see him come across it.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 5: But to the actually, you know what, he's actually stating
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 5: a fact.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: That's fine, but what's the point.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: Two different teams, two different situations, different players. Give me
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: a break. Hey, let's bring the question back.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: By the way. Yeah, the old line never takes exception
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: when opposing players get a little extra on Trevor. Where's
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: the nastiness where the enforcers you and Circe would have
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: been fighting.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, let me say this because I I want to
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: be careful here, because I used to hate it when
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: players who do this, like back in my day, the
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: old days, you literally just did that a whole segment
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: water and that was joking. I was that was weird
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: joke of not concussions.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: Got the water right.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: The game is different. You couldn't play the way we played.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: They're also the ways you get guys back of guys.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: You would start cutting guys. You can't do certain things anymore.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: You could play through the echo of the whistle and
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: there was no late hits. You could get in a
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: pretty aggressive bruhaha, and the worst that was gonna happen
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: was a fifteen yarder and most likely ninety percent of
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: the time it was gonna be offsetting. You could get
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: guys on the ground and go after them that was
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: not illegal. There's a lot of things you can't do
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: today that if guys did, they would either get thrown
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: out of the game or would be like a thousand
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: yards of penalty and everything.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: Steelers had one of their safety suspended for the rest
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: of the season today.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: And by the way, that's a travesty. What's his name, CAZy?
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: What Monte Casey? I am sorry. It is ridiculous. It's
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: criminal that the NFL suspended you for a play that
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: you purposely pulled your head out. You led with the shoulder.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: It is not his fault that Gardner Minshew, Hacker's favorite quarterback,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: threw a ball where he should not have thrown it.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: Tom Brady said it best today, Hey, quarterbacks, stop throwing
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: the ball where you're gonna get your guy knocked out,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: because there's once a time in this league when you
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: played quarterback you didn't throw that ball because you actually
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: liked the guy you're playing with and you knew if
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: you threw it in certain places against certain defenses, that
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: dude might not be back the next week or ever
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: because he might be dead because guys gotten knocked out. Now,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: I'll get the old guy. I think the game was
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: better than not, because I don't want guys getting knocked
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: out because you had you couldn't throw the play ball
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: certain places, and if you did, you paid the price.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: And as a quarterback, you better understand that that's not
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: Demonte Casey's fault. That was Gardner Minshew throwing a ball
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: where he shouldn't have and a guy trying to make
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: a heck of a play. What's kase he's supposed to
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: do sit there and let him catch it. It's football.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: He led with his shoulder, he did what he best
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: he could to protect himself and the other guy. But
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: he's supposed to dislodge the ball from the guy. That
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: should not only not have been a pedal, it should
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: have been a penalty. And the guy's getting suspended for
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: a year. Give me a break. That's terrible. It's terrible.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: Well, they won't be in the playoffs, so I don't
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: think he's gonna worry about the posts.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, it's terrible.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 5: I agree. I think it was a they'll they'll reduce
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 5: that on appeal.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: But you're taking money out of the guy's pocket. So
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: like back to the question that they're asking there's certain
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: things you can't do that Leon and I and other
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: players did. You just can't do it. It's a different game.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: Do I think I'm less worried about these guys respying?
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: You want to set the tone, come off the ball,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: move people.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw the Buffalo Dallas game,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: but there was a Prescott slid and somebody hit him,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: and Jack Martin went over and hit that guy, got
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: a fifteen yard penalty and was offsetting.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 5: He took away.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: He took away the fifteen yards that they would have
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: had by just going over and getting in a guy's face.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 5: No, that makes no sense.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: No, but my boy, and I guess I would ask
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: the guy who posted on AX the Jack fan, at
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: what point in Yester's day's game did something happen that
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens did that would cause an offensive lineman
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: the need to go take out a guy. I didn't
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: think that Ravens were dirty yet.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: Well, no, on the on the play where Rokwan Smith
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: got the forearm to Trevor's head and then the other
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 4: guy comes from behind when Trevor's on his knees like
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 4: kind of chokes him. And and that's when he hurt
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 4: his arm, right, I mean on that play, it just
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: seemed a little extra.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: Well, now, do I think should have been chasing him
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: down the field and uh, getting guys off the pile?
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 4: Absolutely?
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: That was like when like and again you gotta be
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: careful because you can't get it like Pete. I mean
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: you remember this, Pete, when you covered when I played, like,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: we were told you better chase the play and clean
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: guys off the pile. What that meant is and the
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: officials allowed it basically like you had a little bit
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: of time after the whistle to take a shot at
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: a guy, and like the rule was don't stand around
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: a pile, right because you're gonna get hit. You can't
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: do that anymore. Now do I think they should have
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: been down there and like not letting anything happen until
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: the whistle? Absolutely?
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: But do I tell you can't even pull a guy
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: off a pile anymore a penalty.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: And so like, just to our fans, I don't. I
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: don't think any of those offensive linemen are. They're tough
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: guys like and let me be clear here when I
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: say they're not physical, I'm not saying I'm not questioning
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: their toughness. You play that game. Those are tough dudes.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying the way they play and the way
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: we play offense in the in the the the type
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: of leverage we play with and the size and strength
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: does not allow us to be physical. I'm not questioning
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: tough That's my point.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: I just want to make sure, like you always say,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: Cam Robbins is the toughest offensive lineman that they have
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: when he plays, I didn't know.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: I don't say he's in the toughest. He has the
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: most attitude and he's the nastiest offensive lineman and a
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: half I think, like, let me tell you what, Like
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: Brandon Sheriff, he's at the end. He's an old I mean,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: he's in playing guard as you get older, and he's
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: not the biggest man. He's big for an average person,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: but like in NFL circles, he's not like this gigantic,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: thick dude. He's an athletic guard and he does not
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: have the legs that he once did. He's a good
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: pass walker, he is great pulling. He's not gonna physically
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: move a big man. It's not his game right now.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: But if you ask me, his brand and Shareff tough.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, the dude is tough as nails. He
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: shows up every Sunday, plays through pain, fights his tail
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: off in the like every play so he did in
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: the last month last season. The core thing, the.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 5: Dude is tough.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: So please when you hear me fans and like Leon
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: and I were no tougher than these guys, that's that's ridiculous,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: that's moronic. These guys are tough dudes. It's a different
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: game with different rules, and I don't change my opinion.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're a physical group. They don't move people.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: That's what I mean by physical. I just want to
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: make sure that is crystal clear, because I will never
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: question unless it is so obvious a guy toughness on
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: the offensive line, especially those are five tough dudes. Walker Little,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: what he did and what Ezra Cleveland did playing through injury.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 4: That's toughness, all right, They got my respect. We are
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: clear crystal Crystal clear? Am I clear? Crystal crystal clear
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: or crystal crystal. I can have the reporter reading back
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: to you three eight one. Maybe the most important question
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 4: that he asked is what Tony BISSELLI is getting beat
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 4: Briscoe for christal Ah col.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: Col I don't know he ade so he gave me
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: an attitude today.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 5: So beats the.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: Bad beats the bad elf.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm what are you talking about?
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 5: Your well?
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: I mean you have to, I mean you have a stature.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: I'm the bad Elf. I'm then you're not tall enough
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: for the the Grinch.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 5: I'm the Grinch. I'm I'm the I'm the angry Grinch.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 5: I'm just a realist. You're a pump on waiver.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: You can get the most set of pomp poms Tony's.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: You could get it.
• 1:33:01
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  Speaker 4: The Jaguars dropped one to the Ravens yesterday, so the
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: playoff races are heating up, Pete. And here we are
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: with three weeks to go, and hey, the NFC is interesting.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: Philly plays tonight. They've lost two in a row, and
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: they're on the road in Seattle and all of a sudden,
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 4: the Cowboys. I mean, what in the world happened to them?
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: Can I say something about the Cowboys? I'm gonna give
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: Pete credit. Here's my Christmas present to Pete. Oh that's nice.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: Pete said it three weeks ago. I think it was
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: that Buffalo has found something and nobody wants to play them.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: And when he said it, I was like, whatever.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 4: You know, Pete's such a Josh Allen fan, the other
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen, not our Josh Allen that I'm like, he's
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 4: just you know, you know, fanboy and Josh Allen and
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 4: the Bills. Pete was right, what they found was a
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 4: running game sixty six yards last night.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: But they're a much.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: I don't know what happened, Pete, And I don't watch
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: them enough. I know you do.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: They are the team, they might be the best team
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: in the AFC right now, correct, and they might not
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: make the playoffs.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: Their defense has gotten a lot better to Okay, they
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: got guys back. Young guys are playing better. But the
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 3: offensive line has really come off.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 5: Really come on.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: I mean they were just malling dudes on Sunday and
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: they protected better. Spencer Brown, you know him, the right tackle.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: He's had a rough couple go the last couple of years.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: He's healthy. Now he's playing really good at right tackle.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 3: So I think he add it all up. You know,
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen's gonna give you what he can give you.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: They didn't even need him on Sunday, didn't even need him.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: They're the best team in the AFC right now. They
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 3: would be the to me, they'd be the favorite if
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: they can get in. I don't they might not even
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: get in.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: Well, they're eight and six right now, but they're outside
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: because of tiebreakers, right, Pete.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, But here's the thing, Tony.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: They win the next two Miami loses either the Dallas
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: or Baltimore, which they could lose both of those. Yeah,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: the final game of the season in Miami will be
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: for the division title.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 4: And probably flex to Sunday night. I would guess yeah,
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 4: I'll say this. The Dolphins aren't beating.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 5: The Ravens, not at Baltimore.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: No, they're not physical enough. And I don't think they're
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: beating the Cowboys either. Is it in Miami, that's at home,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: that's at home. Yeah, they could though they could, they
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: could beat the Cowboys. They are not beating the Ravens. No, nope.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: So if Miami loses and then Josh Allen has owned
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: the Dolphins the way.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: And who does Buffalo left?
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: They have at the Chargers with Eastern sticks, Okay, that's
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: that's they get New England at home.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 4: That's a win, it I mean it's going yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So at eleven and at ten and seven, do they
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 4: get in?
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  Speaker 3: Well they would if o Miami, oh Buffalo, if they
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  Speaker 3: lost that last game you're talking about, there's a possibility.
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  Speaker 4: Monday Night football, we headed the Pacific Northwest. The ten
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  Speaker 4: and three Philadelphia Eagles look to rebound from back to
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  Speaker 4: back losses with a new defensive play caller. They face
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  Speaker 4: the six and seven Seattle Seahawks, who dropped four straight
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  Speaker 4: ratings high in Detroit, and Eagles win secures the Lions playoff.
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  Speaker 2: Berth. Who you got tonight? I got Philly. How about
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: Matt Patricia gonna be like, what is what's going on there? Pete?
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  Speaker 3: They made a change on the side. The defense has
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  Speaker 3: been terrible. They're twenty ninth in the league in past defense.
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  Speaker 3: They're terrible in defense. So I get it. I think
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna be high scoring. I think it's gounda be
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  Speaker 3: a lot of points. Both quarterbacks are you know, we
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  Speaker 3: don't know hers his status. It looks like he's gonna play,
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  Speaker 3: but I think the Eagles will find a way to
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  Speaker 3: win this game.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, no no show next week, Pete. I'm Merry Christmas.
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  Speaker 3: Hey have a great Christmas, guys, and no show the
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  Speaker 3: following week either.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year. We're seeing twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, Happy New Year. Merry Christmas.
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  Speaker 4: De brisco, Tony Vasselli, our entire crew, I'm JP Shaffick.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. Its Jaguars Happy Hour.