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VISIONARY QUEEN ANGELA CHATTING WITH CORNEL JACKIE DRUMMER ABOUT "KARMELO ANTHONY'S CASE"| STAND YOUR GROUND| CALLING FOR DA TO BE REMOVED- · DA CREW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Uh, so we're like on Facebook. I'm just gonna have
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  Speaker 1: conversation tonight. We're gonna be sharing a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: the Carmelo Anthony case. A couple of things we cannot say, pupil,
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  Speaker 1: I am going to be going live. I mean, we
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  Speaker 1: cannot say we cannot say gun, you cannot say knife,
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  Speaker 1: we cannot say murder, but we cannot say here. You
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  Speaker 1: don't have to say poker and un alive. You hear me, yes, ma'am.
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  Speaker 2: You cannot say.
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  Speaker 1: Night on TikTok. Once I go live on TikTok. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: you'll hear me. You'll hear me with my terminology, so
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  Speaker 1: you're you you can grasp what what's being said.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So.
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting ready to go live on TikTok. We are
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  Speaker 1: live on Facebook. So if you want to introduce yourself
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  Speaker 1: to the people on Facebook, YouTube, kick in, Twitch, you
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  Speaker 1: can go ahead and do that while go live over here.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead. Uh, good evening, ladies and gentlemen. A
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  Speaker 2: podcast show block to you by Andrel Thomas Smith, a
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  Speaker 2: visionary and author. Uh a fine others likea thin thank
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  Speaker 2: you for tonight's show. Tonight's show is about an individual
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  Speaker 2: case of Camelo Anthy case that we will will be
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  Speaker 2: visiting and tonight we will be talking about the situation.
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  Speaker 2: So my name is Cornel Drummer. I am a co
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  Speaker 2: host let's talk about it, and the founder of the
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  Speaker 2: pre Sex Campaign. And tonight, as I said, we will
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  Speaker 2: be talking about this case. We will be shed light
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  Speaker 2: on the fact and circumstances surrounding this case. So thank
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  Speaker 2: you very much for joining us tonight and tonight we're
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  Speaker 2: going to have a good show.
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  Speaker 1: But we are alive on TikTok now, so we can
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  Speaker 1: go ahead with the conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, thank you for showing us again tonight and
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  Speaker 2: tonight we're going to talk about the case of Camillo
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  Speaker 2: Anthony and we're going to shed light on the fact
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  Speaker 2: that this case has taken the times for the womans
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  Speaker 2: from the beginning of the offset of the case. And
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  Speaker 2: we're going to show you tonight that the Collins County
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  Speaker 2: District Attorney's Office has the law to be applied to
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  Speaker 2: the facts of this particular case and that this individual,
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  Speaker 2: the Camello Anthony, is being victimized by the system who
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  Speaker 2: fails taking knowledge that the law has to be applied
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  Speaker 2: all the way around, not just in part but in home.
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  Speaker 2: And in this particular case, we're going to show you
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  Speaker 2: that this individual, well, he either had a right to
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  Speaker 2: self defense or a right to stand his ground. And
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  Speaker 2: with this fact, I'm going to show tonight that the
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  Speaker 2: law applies in this case and that the DA is
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  Speaker 2: failing to recognize this. Camillo Anthony was an individual who
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  Speaker 2: just happened to be walking one day and you know,
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  Speaker 2: it was raigning, so he somehow seemed as kN okay,
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  Speaker 2: and he went to go get shelter. And while he
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  Speaker 2: was there, I guess some other individuals were there, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, somehow another one of the little individuals who
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  Speaker 2: were there, you know, felt that he shouldn't be there.
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  Speaker 1: So let me let me interject, because there's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people that that here it is and
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  Speaker 1: they tune in. So a lot of people have seen
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  Speaker 1: the video. Have you seen this video? No, ma'am, I okay,
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  Speaker 1: So you are just what will you be relying your
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  Speaker 1: information on.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, man, that's a good question, ma'am. Okay. Based upon
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the opinions and uh circumstances given by
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  Speaker 2: others opinions related to some of the facts in the case.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we're only assuming that this particular incident took
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  Speaker 2: place because the little individual who was there went to
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  Speaker 2: go get other people and they came back, and this
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  Speaker 2: is where the fear from the Camelo answer occurred. That
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  Speaker 2: he felt threatened for his life and for his sake,
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  Speaker 2: and this is where the incident occurred because the other
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  Speaker 2: three individuals were not there at first, and they could
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  Speaker 2: not have known that the Camelo Answer was even at
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  Speaker 2: this tent unless they were notified or informed by somebody
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  Speaker 2: who had to be at the tent to know that
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  Speaker 2: he was there, and they came into, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: tell him that he could not be there, and this
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  Speaker 2: was the altercation occurred. Now, so those facts are coming
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  Speaker 2: from basically uh an opinion. So hopefully, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: facts were playing on paying out that the video footage
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  Speaker 2: just will shown exactly what we're saying as of right
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  Speaker 2: now that occurred. Now.
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of people are saying that it's not
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  Speaker 1: self defense and that he could have walked away and
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  Speaker 1: all types of things. But as they go by and
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  Speaker 1: things begin to progress, other things are beginning to come
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  Speaker 1: to light, like, for example, someone pulled the pop, someone
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  Speaker 1: pulled the poker out. If they left the poker in,
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  Speaker 1: he may still be here, you know, just different things.
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  Speaker 1: It's happening. But everybody wanted to say that if he
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  Speaker 1: not pulled the poker out, if he not had the poker,
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  Speaker 1: none of this would have happened. But if they kept
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  Speaker 1: their hands to they said, none of this would have happened.
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  Speaker 1: If they not been bullied, if they not been trying
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  Speaker 1: to tell that man what to do, none of this
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  Speaker 1: would have happened.
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  Speaker 2: But what.
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  Speaker 1: A Texas say.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's a good question, man. According to the Texas
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  Speaker 2: Quarter Comal Pills, which is the highest court in the land,
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  Speaker 2: it separates the issue of what we call self defense
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  Speaker 2: and the issue of stander ground. Okay, the issue of
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  Speaker 2: self defense. Technically, let me make sure I got this correct. Okay, yes, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Defense justification. Let's say that according to the Texas Penal Code,
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  Speaker 2: Annotation nine thirty one, ay none daily for a self defense,
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  Speaker 2: that a person is justified in using force against another
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  Speaker 2: wind and to the degree that person the reasonably believed
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  Speaker 2: the force is to be immediate necessary to take themselves
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  Speaker 2: against another person's use or kept the use of unlawful force. Okay. Now,
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  Speaker 2: under the penal Code, it also says that a person
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  Speaker 2: is justified and using daily force if he would just
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  Speaker 2: be justified in using force under the penal code, and
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  Speaker 2: he reasonably believed a daily force is immediately necessary to
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  Speaker 2: detect himself. And that is basically what happened in the
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  Speaker 2: communalanity case. He had no idea that these guys was
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  Speaker 2: coming for him because he has not committed no crime,
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  Speaker 2: He was not in the process of committing crime, He
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  Speaker 2: was not doing anything wrong, and he was minding his
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  Speaker 2: own misiness. And based upon understand your fund laws, these
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  Speaker 2: issues that are injected into the law that states that
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  Speaker 2: he did not have to retreat the pro that leaving
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  Speaker 2: the tenth to protect himself as matter of fact, because
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  Speaker 2: of the fact that they came and threatened him, a
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  Speaker 2: crime was being committed by them with the hint to
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  Speaker 2: cause him hall. So justification is there, and the District
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  Speaker 2: Attorney's office, Colon County District Attorney's office should have applied
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  Speaker 2: the fact that justice justification was there and presented a
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  Speaker 2: no real indictment for self defense.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he did not do that well, And and that's
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  Speaker 1: that's another issue because we're finding out a lot of
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  Speaker 1: stuff about that, and and and even perhaps the judge
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  Speaker 1: that that that that is going to be over this
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  Speaker 1: case finding out that no, the d A man, In fact,
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  Speaker 1: I think the lady said, the d A that's that's
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  Speaker 1: over this case, got some essay charges out of his office.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, she she was talking about that on the
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  Speaker 1: last panel. She lived right there in Texas. She said,
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  Speaker 1: she lived thirty minutes from what this took place at
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  Speaker 1: and you know, just on there just sharing. She was
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  Speaker 1: just on there, just sharing she'd been there, and just
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  Speaker 1: like I was posting in the comment session, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this is not something new to Texas and people that
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  Speaker 1: lived there, those people that live there know that this
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  Speaker 1: corruption is something that has always gone on in Texas.
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  Speaker 1: And you got so many people that's on the outside
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  Speaker 1: of Texas looking in. They don't know what those on.
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  Speaker 1: They just trying to apply a law. They don't know
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  Speaker 1: what going on, they don't know what's how corrupt that
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  Speaker 1: Texas is. People want to know if these people had
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  Speaker 1: just like the lady said, she said, if they had
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  Speaker 1: anything on Carmelo, she said, don't you know, they would
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  Speaker 1: have been blasted it all on the TV. They would
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  Speaker 1: have been on drug, this man, they would have been
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  Speaker 1: had it all on TV, because that's what they do.
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  Speaker 1: That is what they do. They always do that. They
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  Speaker 1: always when they find something not on us, they spread
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  Speaker 1: it all over the TV. They blasted on the TV.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have nothing on this baby. That's why they can't.
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  Speaker 1: They can't blast it on TV. Just like that man
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  Speaker 1: just said on that phone the other day. He told
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  Speaker 1: me that them people planted another case on him while
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  Speaker 1: he was incarcerated, and now he's being charged with another case.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what's going to happen to this baby. They're
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  Speaker 1: trying to trump up some more charges. They're trying to
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  Speaker 1: build another case, build up some more charges so they
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  Speaker 1: can charge him with something, because they want to charge
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  Speaker 1: him with something. But they ain't got nothing to charge
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  Speaker 1: him on his parents and ain't letting him go nowhere,
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  Speaker 1: so he ain't getting not there in them streets so
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  Speaker 1: he can go out there and get into nothing. So
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  Speaker 1: these people are working overtime. They don't messed up. That
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  Speaker 1: da don't messed up because he don bit off more
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  Speaker 1: than he can chew. And now he don't know what
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  Speaker 1: to do. So now what can what can Camelo Anthony
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  Speaker 1: and them do what can the people do because evidently
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  Speaker 1: there's not gonna be a fair trial no matter what
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  Speaker 1: these people say, that's not gonna be a fair trial
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  Speaker 1: in the state of Texas. We know that. We look
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  Speaker 1: at how the state of Texas. And I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: give statistics because I was on the panel yesterday. They
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  Speaker 1: told me that I was giving out the wrong numbers.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm not giving out numbers. Not gonna give out numbers.
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  Speaker 1: But I know for a fact, and you can back
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  Speaker 1: me on this, that Texas lead the nation and exonerations, wrongfully,
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  Speaker 1: overly incarcerations and executions. Am I right or wrong?
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  Speaker 2: You are absolutely right about that, ma'am. And because of
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  Speaker 2: that man, a lot of people are being given the
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  Speaker 2: wrong shake of the of the of the of the
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  Speaker 2: the law. Okay, Mimer Anthony family and his supporters can
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  Speaker 2: do two things now. They can find for number one,
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  Speaker 2: for this case to be dismissed and how and why? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: self defense again, in two thousand and seven, the daily
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  Speaker 2: for self defense that you provided for a general duty
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  Speaker 2: che retreatment, which means that I'm gonna take this law
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  Speaker 2: that under self defense you had a duty to retreat. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: now that duty, but that duty was all removed from
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  Speaker 2: the statue in two thousand September two thousand and seven,
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  Speaker 2: and then your ground law provisions were added. So now
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  Speaker 2: we got stand your ground divisions coming in and taking
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  Speaker 2: over the self defense statue. But what are the provisions
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  Speaker 2: for that? Since then it has been explained that the
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  Speaker 2: inclusion of the general duty chey retreat instruction is eronia
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  Speaker 2: saying constituting him proper comment on the weight of the devidence.
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  Speaker 2: So in this particular case, the current senior ground law
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  Speaker 2: and let's survived that an actor has no duty to
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  Speaker 2: retreat if the actor had a right to be prison
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  Speaker 2: whether the Disney force was used, did not provoke the
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  Speaker 2: person against whom the Dasy force was used, and was
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  Speaker 2: not engaged in any criminal activity at the time of
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  Speaker 2: the commissions of all of them. The other memoristates that
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  Speaker 2: a jury may not consider a person's star retreat if
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  Speaker 2: he had no duty to retreatment. In this particular case,
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  Speaker 2: Anthony had no duty to retreat because he was eventually
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  Speaker 2: standing under the tent trying to stay out of the right.
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  Speaker 2: He was not committing the crime. Didn't now have no
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  Speaker 2: test to commit the crime and was on a public
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  Speaker 2: place none, nor did he provoke anything that happened. Now,
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  Speaker 2: when it states that a crime was being committed, the
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  Speaker 2: crime intentionally and normally was being committed by the individuals
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  Speaker 2: to which Anthony she was the divorce on because they
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  Speaker 2: came to him with intent to commit a crime against him,
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  Speaker 2: and he defended it himself. So as of right now,
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  Speaker 2: his family and the puppet can seek emotion to this case.
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  Speaker 2: I he was in the law of Saniel ground because
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  Speaker 2: he stood his ground and did not have to retreat.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't matter if he had a knight or poke
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  Speaker 2: or whatever he had. Now for acum of my bad
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  Speaker 2: semis at apologize for that. It did not matter whatever
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  Speaker 2: he used to defend himself with the issue was that
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  Speaker 2: he defended himself against the immediate played home to be
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  Speaker 2: committed us against him. And the history of Attorney's office
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  Speaker 2: is taking this case overboard by taking false information to
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  Speaker 2: the grand jury to indict him for him one So
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  Speaker 2: after right now we want that indictment to be dismissed
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  Speaker 2: based upon the simple facts of this case, that the
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  Speaker 2: facts proved that he is justified and that he did
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  Speaker 2: not have to retreat and that he acted it a
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  Speaker 2: good standing to defend.
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  Speaker 1: Himself from Okay, so I hear that. That sounds good,
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  Speaker 1: but we hear that. We hear so much. We've been
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  Speaker 1: hearing a lot concerned in this case. So with that
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  Speaker 1: being said, how can because I really honestly don't think
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  Speaker 1: that he's gonna get a fair trial because of everything
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  Speaker 1: that's going on. You got panel off the panel, after
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  Speaker 1: panel off the panel, and then the dad's jumping the panels,
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  Speaker 1: you got the mom jumping on panels, you got the
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  Speaker 1: jumping on panels, you got different people jumping on all
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  Speaker 1: these panels. And the jury pool is being tainted. It
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  Speaker 1: is being tainted. So he is not going to get
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  Speaker 1: a fair trial. And then we look at how how
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  Speaker 1: do they determine.
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  Speaker 3: The the the the people the indictment, the people that
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  Speaker 3: bring the indictment, the court that bring the indictment.
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  Speaker 1: How do they just determine the people that that brought
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  Speaker 1: this indictment upon them? How how did they draw who
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  Speaker 1: was gonna sit in that room? Because I know the
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  Speaker 1: defense lawyer was not welcome and the defense was not welcome,
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  Speaker 1: So how did they determine who was gonna stick in
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  Speaker 1: that that room, and do you think that that was
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  Speaker 1: something that maybe the district attorney walked over there and
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  Speaker 1: had somebody to sign my phone. Because from my understanding,
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  Speaker 1: I hear people say on these panels that if you,
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  Speaker 1: if you can a ham sandwich can get indictment. So
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: if a ham sandwich can then adictment, that means anybody
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  Speaker 1: can get in it that and so please explain that
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  Speaker 1: so that people like myself that really don't know nothing
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  Speaker 1: about about how can we grasp and get an understanding
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  Speaker 1: a better understanding?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, because a grand jury is a make of the
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  Speaker 2: cross section of our community. Now and this is what
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  Speaker 2: people are to be convicted by members of their peers. Now.
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  Speaker 2: A grand jury is the secrecy of the grand jury,
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  Speaker 2: which means the same pun't don't have to be explosed
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  Speaker 2: to the public of what evidence is presented to them.
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  Speaker 2: But in the say that takes an according to the law,
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  Speaker 2: defense attorney, my defense attorney is the run who have
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  Speaker 2: to ensure that all of the evidence goes to the
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  Speaker 2: grand jury. Why because the prosecution, even though it has
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  Speaker 2: the latitude and present what evidence it feels is necessary
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  Speaker 2: for his case, my attorney have the power and the
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  Speaker 2: same duty to ensure that all of the evidence has
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  Speaker 2: presented the grand jury so that the grand jury can
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  Speaker 2: make a rational decision and how to indict this case.
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  Speaker 2: And if there is any evidence from any source that
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  Speaker 2: can prove that mister Camelo, Anthon on anybody should be
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  Speaker 2: no bill based upon the facts of what the grand
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  Speaker 2: jury sived, then they should be no bill as opposed
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  Speaker 2: to being true billed by a grand jury. So now
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  Speaker 2: to determine who is to be sitting in the grand jury,
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  Speaker 2: that is a secrecy of the grand jury that we
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  Speaker 2: do not have access to. But we can get a
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  Speaker 2: makeup of the racial makeup of the jury to determine
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  Speaker 2: who sit in the grand jury because of the exception
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  Speaker 2: of private information. Man, So that's where we're at with that.
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  Speaker 2: So we can seek of a makeup of the makeup
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  Speaker 2: of the grand jury. We just can't get them to
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  Speaker 2: give us exactly the evidence that they presented it.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 2: Only an attorney can do that.
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  Speaker 1: So right now, as a community, how can we rally
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  Speaker 1: behind Carmelo? Because we see what is happening, we see
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  Speaker 1: what it is becoming, we see what has happened in
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  Speaker 1: the past, and we see because we see what happened
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  Speaker 1: in that case that we were talking about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Individuals was just talking about that same case. I think
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  Speaker 1: it happened in twenty twenty two where there was a
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  Speaker 1: yt individual that attacked a Hispanic individual and unlive him.
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  Speaker 1: Yet he get a slap on the wrist and it
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  Speaker 1: it it here, we wanna throw the the throw carmella
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  Speaker 1: up under the bus and then we wanna drive the
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  Speaker 1: bus over him. You know, they did nothing but sapt
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  Speaker 1: the shot on the wrist. They didn't publicize it, they
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: didn't say nothing about it. But yet they putting this
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: on everything. Every time every channel you flip to, you
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: go scroll through any platform, you're gonna hear about what
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  Speaker 1: is going on. And this should not be what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: And then this dad, the dad is on here making
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  Speaker 1: a complete that's a nine fool of himself because he's
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  Speaker 1: truly showing his colors, he's truly showing who he is.
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  Speaker 1: And then they're saying, oh, he's under distress, Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's under distress. But when Rodney hitting this under distress,
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  Speaker 1: oh he just a outrageous, just just another typical BK person.
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  Speaker 1: And these are the things that they throw around, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and we're tired of the stereotypes. We are tired of
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  Speaker 1: the stigmas. We're tired of them giving us the short
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  Speaker 1: end that we talk about all these different things that
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: that is taking place, and yet they think we always
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: the one with the handouts. They don't understand that we
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  Speaker 1: work for what we want. Like when y'all tell us
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  Speaker 1: that we can't have this and this, we ain't no good,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: and we can't do that, and we can't do this, y'all,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: when y'all told us that we begin the learn how
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: to get stuff on our own. We don't need y'all.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing about it. And the fact that
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: we don't need y'all, it become a problem, and then
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: it becomes it becomes issues, and then it's always it's
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: always a competition, never knowing that you will never come
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: you will never be able to compete with us ever
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: ever exact and people don't understand that.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, So in this particular case, man, the issue is
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: who went to the grand jury. Okay, the criminal investigator
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: who's investigating this case. When he investigated the case, all
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: the facts that he developed had to be presented to
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: the district attorney's office. The district attorney's office then in
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: turn presented whatever information he gave him to the grand jury. Now,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: mister Kamittal Anthony, if he had a defense attorney, his
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: attorney had the right and the duty to find out
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: through a motion for discovery what that evidence was before
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: the case even went to the grand jury. He could
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: have had an examinent trial before the case went to
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: the grand jury. But the district Attorney's office was held
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: all of the information from the Kamal Anthony's family and
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: district the defense attorney in order to present the case
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: to the grand jury. So when he does that, he
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: presented a one side of the case of the grand jury,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: leaven out a lot of the facts. As of right now,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: we need to know who went to the grand jury
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: and what evidence was presented to the grand jury, because
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: we can follow motions seeking for the grand jury minutes
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: to be released just in case we have to go
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: to a jerry trial, and we can rebuttal and impeach
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: any evidence that was presented to the grand jury as
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: of right now, that's number one. Number two, we can
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: neither ask for a change an venue if we feel
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: that we will not get a third chance in Collins County,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: based the phone, all of the publiciency, all of the
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: that is being made, and all of these types of things,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: if we can ask for a change of venue from
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: the county, if we should feel that the judge is
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: bias and the prosecutor and the District attorney's office will
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: somehow another lomi chery in this particular case.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: But the dad already know sayid that he knows he's
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: friends with these people, he knows these people, And I mean,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: we already know that it's gonna be tainted. We we
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: that is that is known that it's not an if.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: It's not if it's when they gonna say that it's
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: tainted because it's tainted because you can come on social
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: media and sit in on some of these these lives
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: and sit in on some of these panels and just
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: listen to some of the conversations. It's it's tainted, and
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: it's gone to be tainted. He is never going to
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: get a fair trial in the state of Texas, never, never,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: when he should never be. He shouldn't even never be
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: on trial, period, point blank period. Anyway, you know they
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: already go through this. This child, this is a child
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: that was going to a track meet where he had
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the right to be there. One of those twins didn't
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: even have the right to be there. I don't know
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: which one it was, but one of them did not
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: have the right to be there. He was not on
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: the list. He shouldn't have even been there. Probably the
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: one that caused all the problems, the one that always
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: that's probably the one that's still here. Well, I don't know,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: because I ain't watched on video. I don't know. I
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: don't I just sit in on the panels and I
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: just listen, and I just listened to these people, and
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: it is it is. They have made it. So many
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: people have made it about about race instead of about
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: the facts because people don't want to accept the facts.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: They don't want to they don't want to accept the
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: fact that these these these individuals. And from my understanding,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: they were not all white tea kids. There was some
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: BK kids out there too, So there was BK kids
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: out there. They was all up under the canopy because
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: it's not it wasn't the fourth tent. And and people
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: say this, everybody had the option to walk away. Okay,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: they did, but they didn't. So we moved past that.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: They did not move they did not walk away. Why
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: because all of them probably felt privileged. We all and
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: just keeping it real. We we're talking about too. We're
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: talking about some y t kids that you look at
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: their pictures. They walk around with with with with with
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: what you call pool pools and and and and all
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And they was out, they they hunted,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: they did all kind of stuff. But then they want
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: to make the BK kid out to be this this
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: horrible this horrible kid. But this child worked, he worked
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: two jobs. He he he was trying to make a
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: living for himself, and he was going to school. You know,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: they don't they don't think about all of that. Every
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: every brand on person that you see is not out
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: here to take nothing from you, not out here to
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: destroy the world. Like some of us. We we we
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: we believe in making a legacy and leaving a legacy
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: for ourselves, like we want to have something like we
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: don't just sit around and think of ways that we
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: can come against y'all. No, we're trying to live too.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Like people just don't understand. They don't understand. We don't
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: look at color. Color is not a thing that that
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: run through our veins like that look at most of
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: our families, our family first family as bad as people
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: don't want we got all different races like literally like
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: how can I hate somebody when when when my nephew,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: like my nephew, come on, please, like come are you everything?
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: And this this child falls under everything that say this
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: boy stood his grounds like he except exactly what he did.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: And the fact that nobody likes that it's sad.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, ma'am because you stated that you absolutely correct
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: on that. So now when we want, we want to
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: go back, since he's already been indicted and get access
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: to the police report that was written by the Primmel
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: investigator that went to the Justice of the peace, if
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: all for them to establish powerable calls to go ahead
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: and present this case to a grand jury to the
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: District Attorney's office to the grand jury. Now, if the
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: police report that was written excludes value for.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Have been.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: That this to consider that report, then we are asking
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: for lack of cause and the indictment to be dismissal
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: and subficient evidence meant the pole lack of probable cause,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: because that's the only way that a journey can grantury
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: can indict you if they find probable cause to indict you.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: So if that information had to come from the initial
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: offense report written by the criminal investigators, So when we want,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: we want for them to release a copy of his
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: initial report because as we assume the other three individuals,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: somehow another came later and that light I said, we
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: are assuming that one of these individuals went and got
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: them and pointed out to them that little Camlo Anthony
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: was under this kit to why he was getting out
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: of the ring. That's what we're assuming. But if that
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: information was affect then that information should have been presented
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: and written in that report to show that the intent
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: to commit a crime come from the persons who Anthony
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: defeateded himself against it, and he was not committing a
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: prim So this is what we're acting for. A copy
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: of the initial Winden offense report, an incident report that
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: was presented to the Justice of the Peace, that was
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: presented from there to the District Attorney's office and presented
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: from the District Tony's office sup the grand jury and
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: either presented to Camillo's defense that he could have rebuttaled
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: at So that's what we're acting for initially. So if
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: that information was not included in there. Then we're acting
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: for this case to be dismissated. Upone, the lack of
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: OBIB calls to indictments, the committal at the fen to jury.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Hey, I can't hear you.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: You have one minute left, m.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I can't hear all right, the caller had hung up.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Chanette Okay, I don't know what happened to her. Maybe
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: she'll come back. Chanette is one of the hosts over here.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: She jumped on, so I was about to bring her up.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I had to get some plug up with some juice offers.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: No bad e w was going dead. But yeah, So
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts for those that Hey, Facebook, who's that?
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Let me see? Let me see who that is? Chanette?
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: H she net had She must have the take the
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: phone for y'all. She must say, take the phone.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: To accept this recall. Press want to reduce this recall.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Thank you producing secure. You may start the conversation now.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Sennett must have had a phone call.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, yes, ma'am, Well, yes, ma'am. That's basically what can
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: happen now in this particular case, before we even go
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: to a j mm hmm.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: And that the.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Judge okay, and that the judge in this case, ma'am
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: has the powlem right now to a dismiss the case
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: a play trial hearing, which means that the thirty days
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: after the indictment and before a jury.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Trial, so the indictment just came down, So that the
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: indictment just came down. Okay, I don't think it's been
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: a week, So maybe it's been a week. Not sure,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: it just came It's not been thirty days, I know that.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: But okay, so what what what? What are the options?
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: What?
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: What? What can he do? But what can what can
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: the public do? Because I think the public is what's
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: gonna make a difference in this case because there is
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of people seem to be invested in this.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, every channel you go to, there's a there's
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: a lie going on, And you got several people on panels,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: You got people on panels, you got people you know,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: just lined up to talk, you know, and you got
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: people in the comment So it's a lot of people
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: that's invested. And then it's people that's not even in Texas,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: you know, that that's invested in this, you know. So
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: it's it's a sad This is a sad case. You know,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: understand that someone that family is grieving. That man is
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: making uh he just going around here, just doing whatever,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: and everybody want everybody to feel sorry for him and say, oh,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: people provoked him. People, you know, regardless, you shouldn't even
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: be putting yourself in that place. You know, how is
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: that okay for them to be parading around on these
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: social media sites and they have an open case. There's
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: an open case. The case is not closed. You know.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: People think because an indictment has come down that that
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: that that's it, that the case is over, like they
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: have thrown Camillo up under the bus. They think that
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: that that's the end all to end all. So please
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: explain what does this mean? What can be done next?
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: And all of this stuff Like, okay, ma'am, if you.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Have just identified stuff that everybody is not looking at. Man,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: you just said that this is an case, which means
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: that all of the information is available to the public.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Because all of the available to the public, anybody can
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: go to the police department under the case number, get
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: the case number, which report and that for a copy
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: of any statements that were written, made, or given to
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: any criminal detective in this case. Now, each of the
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: three guys who survived this, they gave a statement to
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: the police for the criminal investigator, and that statement has
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: to outline the facts in this case to determine if
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: whether or not a crime was being committed against Miss
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Anthony or whether or not he committed the crime. And
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: this is where the facts how it comes from. So
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: the public got access to that information because this is
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: a public trial, a publication, So with that we can
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: get access to those reports and we can use those
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: reports to determine what information did go to the grand jury.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: And if we can see that the boss information went
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: to the grand jury, we are the public. We can
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: take this case to the judge of this court an
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: act of this Court to assign us a special prosecutor
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: and to have this case dismissed based upon the lack
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: of probable polls and insufficient evidence. So that's where we
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: have to start. We have to go back to the
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: beginning now to beat this case before we even go
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: to a jury. We're not even trying to go to
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: no jury because we see that the District Unty's office
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: has favors with the grand jeury, I mean with the
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: jury and the grand jury. So we're asking for anybody
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: listening to this podcast to contact the police department, get
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: access to the name of the common investigator and get
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: access to the case number, which is the deport number,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: and ask for copies of the incidentte deport hidden by
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: him and any statements that was given by any witness
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: to this case to determine what information was presented in
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: those students and him. It shows that a crime was
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: being committed by the person to with and defended himself.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: We were using that information to act that the skate
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: to be dismissed based upon false information being presented to
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: the grand jury by the Districttorney's office. M This is
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: when we have to start man come the beginning, because
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: it's obvious that the prosecutor rushed this case to get
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: an indictment.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, who's up for election, He's up for relations relations.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, he rushed his case and got a truth
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: dealing indictment. It's a difference in just getting an indictment,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: got a truth building indictment stating that all of the
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: facts presented to him as the grand jury were true.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: From now, how do we get suit that? Where we
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: go and get a copy of the same reports that
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: he got that was presented to him by the criminal investigator,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: and we read them ourselves, and if we see that
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: based upon those states those statements, that certain information was
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: with hell from the grand jury, and we can demand
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: for this case to be dismissed. And it will be
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: dismissed because the law will override any judge, any disc attorney,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: or anybody in this case. Man, that's all we have
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: to do. But we have a right to creature our
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: hearing simply because the case has been indicted. We can
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: do it that way. All we can write down all emotion.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: The dismissed this case says, upon the lack of prober calls, man,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: mm hmm.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I was trying to get Sette. I don't know what happened.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I see she's bad. Let me see she want to
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: come up. I'm trying to see I Chanette want to
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: come up. I don't know she I don't know she
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: can come up along. I send her an Okay, she
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: might not can come up.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, support okays the case right here too, with
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: staying about the sufficions of Governess Okay, and he brother
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: argues that he was denied the opportunity to test the
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: sip before the grand jury and properly convicted of a
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: crime to which he did not commit.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: So what what? What? What okay? Now that we have
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: the indictment for m one, we have possibly tainted jury,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: we have a possibly corrupt d A. Because we of
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: course know that that is a pattern in Texas for
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: the last two three decades. We look at the amount
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: of people that wrong flying overly incarcerated in the state
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: of Texas, and we look at the color. It's all
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: speak for itself. It's nothing that nobody's making up. But yet,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: what can we as a public do to to let
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: this district attorney know that this is not acceptible. We
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: will not stand for this. And you know, he's up
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: for reelection, and I feel like this was done because
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: he's up for reelection and he wanted to reassure the
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: people that hey, you got the right person in office,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: go ahead and vote for me. This is what we've done.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: But not knowing that, you know, people knowing that this
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: case could drag out, and of course then what happens now,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: you know, rush to god, this what's the name? You know?
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: It took I think they said eighty three days for
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: them to indict.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, so he is where the issue is with that
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: part right there. Once the district attorney following indictment or
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: get a true bill indictment, then everybody has the rights
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: to a trial to be configured by members of their peers.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Now mind yourself, Then diatment has already been presented based
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: upon whatever evidence in information he presented to the grand jury.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: So now, because we know that he's up for reelection
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: and that he's using his case as a pawn to
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: try to advance his stance on showing the public that
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: he's hard on crime, that our thing with that is
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: that we're asking Boss, a special prosecutor to be in
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: this particular case, that he'd be dismissed from this case
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: based upon the fact that he has presented in this
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: case in part in part all presented Boss information to
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: the grand jury within eighty three days in order to
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: get an indictment. So mind yourself. Eighty three days, okay, ma'am.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: That's not even enough time according to a murder what.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: One, Yes, ma'am, that's not enough time now to do anything,
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: because has to have the right to an attorney, get
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: the course of point him an attorney to be able
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: to object.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Well, he has an attorney. He has an attorney. Everybody
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: say that he has applied for the indigenus, but that
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: was done when he first went in on April the second.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: But he has a private attorney, so we have been told. Again,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know, because again I'm I haven't been diving
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: into either side. I've just been sticking to the law,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: you know. I've been not diving into what people have
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: and what they don't have. I've just been sticking to
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: the law in the case. So I don't know. From
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: my understanding. From what I've heard, he has a paid
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: defense team, so I think that there's more than one lawyer,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. I'm not sure. It may be
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: a law firm and they have different lawyers assigned and
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: different themes assigned. I'm not sure, but from my understanding,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: he has a team, a defense team. Before the fact,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: he had nothing. I think there was nothing until they
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: got the until they hired that lawyer that was able
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: to get buned. So when right before before that is
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: when they acquired him. The rest of the time, I
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: don't think from April the second up until he was
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: bunded out, I don't think he had a lawyer, if
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Within a twelf So he was arrested for the offense,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: and the judge did not immediately give him counsel in
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: order to defend himself against the allegations off clean.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Well for now, they just approved that the digit in
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Indigenous package. On April the second, which I think was
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: the day that he was arrested. He applied for the
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: indigitate package. That's what the reference show, but it was
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: just approved. So no, he would not have had he
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: would not have had representation because he was not approved
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: until here lately, and he has a lawyer.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Now, okay, that's ma'm I understand that you're absolutely right.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: If the court disapproved him of having you know, the
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: form of the council based upon his finanswers, then yes,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: But the court judge himself should have allowed us to
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: ask me to fried indicted him so fast the keith
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: from obtaining counsel in order to defend against the indictment,
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: and that this way it gave him enough time.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: But I think he had counsel. He had counsel because
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: he was out. He was out before the indictment came down.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: The indictment remind you that indictment just came down within
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: the last two weeks.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, well after right now, then what we have to
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: do then to go back and retrack the grand jury
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: and the rest burns Man in order to beat this case.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: That's what we have to do. And to file a
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: petition actually for this district Atorney to be taken off
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: of this case while because of his sands on trying
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: to seek re election and using this case as a
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: pawn to try to get his sands on the election.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: And we can make a request for a special propecutor
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: and have this whole case reviewed again and a actis
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: this indictment right now. So that's what we have to do.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: And who who has the authority and who has the
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: power to do that?
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Okay the judge. Whenever a case is fouled by a
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: district attorney, it gets a case number, it gets a
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: criminal case number, and the criminal case number is fouled
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: with a district court judge. That district court judge has
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: jurisdiction over that case. So now anything found has to
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: be fold with that district court tenierate under that case number.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: So what we're doing, we're asking him for this case
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: to be dismissed on emotion to dismiss or emotions to
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: squashed the graduated indictment under that case. Number seeing that judge,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: and we're asking for adhering to be held before Jermy
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Troup on this case. But it has to be fold
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: with that judge, and we want to room and on
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: the motions to be held before this case go that
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: go to trial. And our reasons for happened the case
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: this myth is because number one, he was justified and
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: defending himself. Number Two, he stood his ground and that
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: there's insufficient evidence that was presented to the grand theory
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: to indict him under truth build indictment when in fact
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: that dividence to rebuttal the state's theory that mister committal
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Anthony committed an offense against him as opposed to their
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: committing the offense against him. So this is why we're
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: acting for this case to be dismissed. And the law
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: supports you. It supports you. So the children would have
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: to hold their hearing under Preacher Art determined that whether
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: or not Miss Anthony was justified, and that information comes
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: from the police reports, the statements of the little witnesses
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: who gave their savings. That's where the facts is gonna
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: come from to determine if whether or not this was
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: him one self defense or standard ground.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Now, either way, he had the right to defend himself.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: And either way, I hear a lot of people saying
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: in the comments section that you know, if he's he
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: he's going going to prison, He's going to prison. If
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: he do go to prison, you know, he he shouldn't
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: get that much time. But I just don't see him
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: going to prison. I just don't see it. And if
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: it is, we definitely know what it is because they
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: always trying to always trying to the mess up our
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: children's lives, non fact.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Well, in an appeal, man, any any anything that takes
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: off from this case, we're gonna kill. Okay, so they'll
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: kill based upon of the same evidence we're talking about.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: So who can't make it up here? It has to
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: be the lawyer.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Okayed of this case.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Why do we have to wait till he convicted? Why
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: we can't do something now? Like what can we do now?
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: That's what I was going out to you. We can
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: right now go and follow emotion and before asking him
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: for this case to be dismissed quite man.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Anybody in the public can do that.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: He has to be signed by his attorney. It has
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: to be signed by the attorney. So the attorneys in
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: this case can do that based upon the facts showing
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: that it was justified for Sanuel ground and that Anthony
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: did not provoke nobody, he was not committing no crime,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: and that he had a right to be in the
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: place to which he was and he had that. So
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: because he has that his warriors sho fow those motions
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: right now and get a hearing on these motions as
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: opposed to letting this case go to a jury. You
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: don't have to go to no jury because this is
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: a publicity in the case now.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they were I'm telling you that Daddy is
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: wearing out social media. He's on here every night because
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: you know, on these especially over there on tik top,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: they have this thing where you can you can make money.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: People send you coins and people sing, they send you
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: your lights up and over a million lights on these platforms.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: And he's going from platform to platform and getting people
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: to send them coins and send stuff. So they over
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: there racking up, they racking up on these platforms, and
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: they over there every night. He over there every night.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about they was over there for eight to
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: ten hours. This dude had over a million views, over
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: a million views, and I'm talking about people were sending
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: they was hitting the hearts, they were sending the coins,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: they was doing whatever over there, just running Anthony up
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: under the bus and making us BK people look look
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: like we was nothing. And then you had some of
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: us over there just patronizing this person too, like this person, like,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: I mean they I don't understan people. I just really
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: don't like right is right and wrong is wrong and
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: two wrongs will never make a right. So I don't
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: care how you twisted. You know, if they never if
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: they never approached that boy, never tried to bullet him,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: whatever however they tried to come at him, or bout
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: not being in the tent, you didn't have you should
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: have went to got an adult. That's that's that's what
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: we did when we was in school. Like these kids
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: think they run something, they think they own something that
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: that white privileges. Just know that white that w T
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: or y T or whatever, that privilege don't went to
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: their head, especially since they don't ran up in that
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: capitol and did what they did and got away with that.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: When they when?
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: When?
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: And and what's going on now that current administration people
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: think they can do anything. But I'm telling you we
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: are not our ancestors. I'm telling you try me if
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: you want to.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, you it stating that these individuals came to him
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: and because of that thing right there, it's justified. That's
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: what the point is.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, you see and then not only that, you
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: see one of the purpose You see one of the
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: folks that walked up on him. You see him pacing
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: up and down upstairs, walking up and down the stairs. Okay,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: So if you could walk up and down the stairs,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: you could have you had no business over there where
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: you had no business going to the commotion. If if
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: you could walk up and down the stairs, you could
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: have walked away too. But you went over there too.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: You was a part of that too.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. So that's that's appoint a law of that.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: The law states that you have three to five seconds
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: to think before you commit a crime. So if he
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: walked up and down upstairs, he had enough time to
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: think and to realize what he was gonna do. Therefore,
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: he was chanting only and normally gonna commit a crime.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Against but he didn't know what he was. He didn't know.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: He went.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: He was falling along with them because they said, come on,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: let's go. I mean, if you look at the video,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: you got to understand. You got to look at the
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: video and see the video and see what happened. And
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: then you gotta listen. You gotta see what's going on,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: you know, And then we look at not just we
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: look at all the unfair stuff that has happened in
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: the state of Texas. It's never gonna be right. You
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: look at why James the Gates still sitting in prison.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: You look at why some of these other people that
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: sitting in prison is sitting in prison. It ain't just him.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the statistics. Statistic never lies.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: It's in black and white. That's why I tell people,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: if you want to remember something, you want something to
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: be embedded, put it in a book, put it in something,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Put it in something that it will forever be indented
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: in something. It'll be a part of the archives. Because
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: that's what they want to do. They want to wash
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: stuff away, they want to wipe it away. They don't
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: want you to know what's going on. That's why they
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: don't talk about certain cases. That's why they brush stuff
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: under the rug. The DA got say, charges him, brushed
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: under the rug. Ain't nobody know that's happened. But then
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: he and for re election and then he pressing he
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: walking stuff over there to the judge and pressing forward.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Didn't yeah O saying with a true bill. If you
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: do go to court with the truth bill, that means
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: that they got to they they provided all of the
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: information saying that this is true. This is true to
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: my knowledge. So that means that they got the burden
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: to prove right.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, now I'm investigator, gotta take that same information to
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: a justice of the peace. First of all. So if
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: that information to the justice of the peace ain't no good,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: why because you lack covable cause.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Well, if you listen to, if you listen to if
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: we go back, so if if if we could take
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: some of these these these lives that these people been
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: sitting on and take these videos and take them and
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: presenting them to the court and let them hear what
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: these people are saying. The stories are contradicted, The stories
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: do not match. Because the stories that one that say happen.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: If you listen to the story that ran on CNN
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: or whatever it ran on, whatever news station it ran on.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: They said, that story do not match the story that
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: they've been telling around here on social media and different things.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Because every time you when you're not telling the truth,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: your story keep changing. But you look at Kamela story,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Kamello story has never changed. It's been the same since
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: he told it. But he's not out here running from
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: social media to social media site, jumping from platform the platform,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: trying to do what he ain't got four go fund
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: me either, But they want to talk about the one
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: go fund me that people took They took it down.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: He didn't even get the money from it. But they
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: want to talk about what these people doing. They don't
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: want to tell the truth like they for the likes
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: of me, people don't want to tell the truth. And
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: nothing but the truth is steady coming out, like little
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: bits and pieces is coming out. And it's not looking
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: good for them, them twins and them other two, whoever
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: them other two was not looking good for them. And
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: then from my understanding, it's some girls involved too. Yeah,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: the plot is getting thicker and thicker. It's getting thicker
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: and thicker and they keep opening their mouth. Every time
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: the daddy opened his mouth, some more stuff come out.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Every time they go open his mouth, some more stuff
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: come out. It's it's steady adding up. It's steady adding up.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: They steady adding up to it.
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: Okay, everybody gave statements, everybody that was involved the four.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Everybody gave statements. So they they they say, there's statements
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: from everybody, and they say, the one I think it's Austin, uh, whoever,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: whichever one? And Hunter and Austin, I don't know which
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: one was unlive and which one is alive, but anyway,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: one of them is alive, and one of them is not.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: The one that's alive, he gave a statement, and whoever
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: the other the other two people that was in black,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: they gave a statement to everybody there. And they say
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: some old people don't gave statement. But they not even
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: focused on that. They say even teachers gave statements because
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: they say they were adults present. You know, it's a
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: lot of and then it's a lot of stuff any
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: other time. This this is disappoint I want to make cornell.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: None of the adults you hear nothing from None of
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: the adults you hear nothing from nobody of authority in
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: any of these videos, anything that you've heard on anything,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: they they just making this poor baby out to be
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: a criminal. They making him out to be terrible. They're
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: making him out to be just the worst child to
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: walk the face of the earth, and like he just
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: ain't ain't nothing good about him. And these these twins
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: were the perfect kids, and these the children that was there,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: like they did no wrong.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Okay. So again, let's apply the facts, the law to
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: the facts. If the laws to the facts show that
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Camelo Anthony did not know these individuals, did not and
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: that he did not promote them to do anything.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Did not that he had a right to be in
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: the place where he was, indeed.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, and that he himself has that no motive to
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: commit no crime in thisertiflication was justified and defending himself,
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: then the statements that were made was shown exactly what
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: we're saying. And this is where we got to go
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: back and look at the statements that were made by
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: the individuals to prove of them not the outside individuals,
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: but the same people who was in the in the case,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: if three little boys who gave a statement and mister Calino.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: That's where the criminal investigator took his case and sent
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: it to the grand to the districttantic's office and the districtory.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: We overlooked the fact that came to Camilla Anthony who
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: did not know them to commit a crime, and he
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: presented information to the grand jury and they came back
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: for the m one indictment.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Good. So we see the video. Somebody screen shot in
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: the video, they still shot it it and you see
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: a picture of the tent and you see these four
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: individuals in black and you can see them coming down
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: the things going into the tent. You can see this.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: They still shot it and you can see them lining
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: up walking into the tent. They were going to do something.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: They was going to remove Anthony that was going to
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: do something. They had a agenda. They was not They
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: were walking in single fiul line. They were headed, They
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: was following their leader and they were going to do something.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. So that's what we need right there.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: That's the intent and normally committee an offense. That's what
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: his adictments say.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: That's now we have to.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Repulse that to sure that he did not intently and
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: knowingly do anything but just was a justified and that
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: these individuals intentionally and knowingly came to commit a crime against.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: Him, because if you look at all of the paperwork,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: Anthony had the right to be there. He was registered,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: he was supposed to be there. He was one of
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: the kids that were supposed to have been competing that day.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: But one of those twins were not supposed to be there.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: They were not on the list. Only one of the
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: twins was on the list, So, if you want to
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: be technical, one of them didn't have no business being there,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: and probably the one that was causing all of the wreckish,
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: the one that was causing all of the problems. He's
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: the plain, he's the reason.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So what we want to do, we wanna
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: beat the case right now, right now. How we beat
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: the case. He's going to get a copy of the
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: statements because they got to release them because they published
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: work on infimation and we real and we see whether
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: this is the case. God told them what was going
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: on with his handy being under this tent while he
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: was there, and they confronted him. And because they confronted him,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: now he was justifie and that's why we ask him
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: for this case be this sis based upon the lack
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: of publicle calls number one and number two based from
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: insufficient evidence to indict as camiloathy, that's what we're asking
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: him for, and the public can do that and demand
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: for this sister attorney to be taken off this case
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: due to judicial and partiality. He's biased and.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: We want him up with this case and the jury,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: who is already tainted.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Thank you, and we can establish that man the grand
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: jury was saying, because bosation was resented to the grand jury.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, thank you. All right, Well, I thank you for
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: stopping by and share with me again. Thank you, thank you,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: thank you.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you very much for having me on.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, y'all. Al Right, Well that's that, y'all.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: I hope we've got a little a little more clarification
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: because we've been hearing a lot. We've been hearing a lot,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: so I just wanted to give my my friend a
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: chance to give his input. He's right there in Texas
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: deal with this behind the walls. So again, thank you
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: guys for tuning in. I appreciate y'all, and I hope
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: y'all have a great nights.