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260: These Plaths Are Cray - Welcome to Plathville Recap: The Boyfriend (S7 E1) · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one
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  Speaker 1: of your hosts, Delia, and I'm here with my real
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  Speaker 1: tight homegirl and my daughter in law, the Beautiful, the Transcendent,
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  Speaker 1: the enlightened Beatrice.
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  Speaker 2: I am so enlightened in my third.
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  Speaker 1: Oh god, you are about to get very unenlightened in
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  Speaker 1: this podcast episode. We are here to talk. Welcome to Plaithville.
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  Speaker 1: And if you're on Patreon then you already know that
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  Speaker 1: we like talked a great length as to whether we
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  Speaker 1: were going to recap this show. Last year was kind
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  Speaker 1: of a dud and they didn't deal with so many
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  Speaker 1: of the issues that we wanted them to deal with,
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  Speaker 1: and we didn't know whether we were going to take
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  Speaker 1: another pass at this but we are. So we are
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  Speaker 1: here to recap it, and we have a few thoughts
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  Speaker 1: before we get into it. But before we even talk about, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we have to let you know to please hide your
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  Speaker 1: wife and hide your kids. This is a truly politically
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  Speaker 1: incorrect podcast. We do not censor ourselves.
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  Speaker 2: Nope.
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  Speaker 1: We say a lot of stupid things.
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  Speaker 2: Objectively.
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  Speaker 1: We have dumb opinions and sometimes we say bad words.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry about it.
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  Speaker 1: And so if you're so little by little lady, you
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  Speaker 1: might want to find yourself another dumpster. But if you're
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  Speaker 1: ready to get back into the plaths and the craziness,
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  Speaker 1: and this episode was lit, it was insane. If you're
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  Speaker 2: of other bonus content up there and lots of plans
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  Speaker 2: for the rest of the year, so be sure to.
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  Speaker 1: Go check it out. Yes, and we often and have
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  Speaker 1: after shows, and I would like to make a prediction
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  Speaker 1: that we're probably going to have an after show. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to need it this time because like we're going
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  Speaker 1: to reserve our most inflammatory commentary, offensive offensive counselable commentary
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  Speaker 1: for the after show. Yeah, because it's just too incendiary
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  Speaker 1: and so but if you want to have access to
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  Speaker 1: our after show or our uncensored bits, definitely join us
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  Speaker 1: on Patreon, and we love.
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  Speaker 2: To have you there.
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  Speaker 1: It's a beautiful dumpster and the only thing missing is
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  Speaker 1: as we make our way up the insurmountable mountain toward
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  Speaker 1: six thousand subscribers. It's our dream. Everybody has to have
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  Speaker 1: a dream, Beatress and this is our dream. So if
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  Speaker 1: you could help, that would be so fantastic. Thank you, Inn,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Now, we do have to acknowledge that we
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  Speaker 1: did not release any Sis Wives content this week. Yeah, however,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna be back next week I think on Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: dropping a new episode. We're still in season six. We're
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  Speaker 1: doing the retroactive rewind recaps, and we're gonna try and
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  Speaker 1: have two episodes a week, one Sister Wives episode and
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  Speaker 1: one Welcome to Platful episode. Although next week you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be gone, right, I'm gonna be on She's not gonna
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  Speaker 1: be here, So we'll have a Sister Wives episode next week. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but we will not have a Plathfill episode next week
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  Speaker 1: and then the following week. Stay with me. The following
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  Speaker 1: week we're gonna double up on Plathfill, but Sister Wives
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  Speaker 1: are just gonna continue. So sorry about the little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a shakeup with our schedule, but Beatrice only gives
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  Speaker 1: us one night a week, just one night a week
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  Speaker 1: to do all of this very important, very busy, and
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  Speaker 1: so we're trying to just fit it all in where
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  Speaker 1: we can. Again, Tuesday will be the next Sister Wives recap,
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  Speaker 1: and then the following week we're gonna have two episodes.
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  Speaker 1: Yes for you because we love you so thanks for
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  Speaker 1: bearing with us. We know it's a lot as we
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  Speaker 1: move things around. Appreciate it now. The next thing I
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  Speaker 1: want to say is, you really do need to apply
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  Speaker 1: the disclaimer to this episode, because I have feelings. And
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  Speaker 1: as I'm up on Reddit and I'm in the various
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  Speaker 1: and sundry plaith bill subreddits, I think there's three or
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  Speaker 1: four of them uncensored snark all of the business. I
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  Speaker 1: can see just how many people are out there riding
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  Speaker 1: for Olivia and Veronica and riding for Veronica, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: just going to come out right now, like, if that's you,
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  Speaker 1: and if like you are unable to see nu ones
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  Speaker 1: or have conversations where maybe some people are right and
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  Speaker 1: some people are wrong, or maybe everybody's a little right
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  Speaker 1: or a little like if you can't do that, then
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  Speaker 1: this might not be the podcast recap for you, like,
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  Speaker 1: just stick with our Sister Wives stuff, stick with our
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  Speaker 1: Patreon stuff. In this recap and as we go forward
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  Speaker 1: with PLATF, I just am not going to be able
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  Speaker 1: to hide Beatrice how much I don't like some people.
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  Speaker 1: Starting with Veronica, a lot of people are loving Veronica.
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  Speaker 1: She is currently on a major campaign across social media,
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  Speaker 1: particularly on Reddit, talking about how awful the plaths are.
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  Speaker 1: And they are and we've never said that they're not,
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  Speaker 1: but like totally going in and making some crazy accusations
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not going to speak to the veracity of them,
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  Speaker 1: whether they're true, but like they're crazy accusations, and she
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  Speaker 1: seems unhinged, and in this episode, straight up I was
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  Speaker 1: just like, this chick is bananas. Yeah, I agree, bananas yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And so like I'm going to say that out loud,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, I personally, out of the two of us,
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  Speaker 1: I think I tend to favor Olivia more than you
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  Speaker 1: because outright hate her, and I don't because I'm coming
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  Speaker 1: at it from the perspective of like an old head,
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  Speaker 1: like an old lady, and I can see in Olivia
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things I saw in myself at that age,
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  Speaker 1: and so I'm able to speak to that and kind
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  Speaker 1: of exist within the nuance. But like, if you cannot
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  Speaker 1: handle even the minorist criticism of Olivia, and this is
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  Speaker 1: not the particular show to listen to for the recap.
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  Speaker 2: Straight up, and we're gonna tell the truth. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: don't be leaving negative reviews and stuff if you just
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  Speaker 2: now are like listening to our plathor recaps, or if
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  Speaker 2: you're a new fan or whatever, and then you want
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  Speaker 2: to go leave us a negative review on Apple because
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  Speaker 2: we said something bad about Olivia or Veronica or criticize
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  Speaker 2: doing that shit. Just still little, don't be doing that shit.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, if you do, you do, But like I
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  Speaker 1: just want to open with the idea that we can
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  Speaker 1: have differing opinions. Yeah, like we can talk about things
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  Speaker 1: and not always agree and that that's okay. And so
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  Speaker 1: I just want to prepare you, yeah, for me and
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  Speaker 1: for you. But like that's just that's where we're coming from.
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  Speaker 1: With plathfil like I don't like but I also don't
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  Speaker 1: like him. Yeah, I don't like Olivia that much, but
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  Speaker 1: I also really don't like Barry or Maria, Like I
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  Speaker 1: don't like anybody. Yeah, I think I hate everybody.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Lydia's okay, Oh god, she's so innocent, dude,
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  Speaker 2: She's so dumb.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait to night end this episode. It
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  Speaker 1: is so crazy to me, and so like, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: going to tell the truth, and so I hope that
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  Speaker 1: you take it in the spirit in which we offer it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is just Stuss.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking and that's okay.
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  Speaker 2: We're two bitches and wigs in pink couches, like, chill
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  Speaker 2: out a little bit, okay, all right, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and that's all I have to say. I just
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  Speaker 1: want to just put that out there because we're going
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  Speaker 1: to cover this season and if we started, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to finish it.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: So just let you know how it's gonna be, okay, period,
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  Speaker 1: all right, without further ado, Therefore, my dear take it away.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Blackfill, Season seven, episode one, entitled.
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  Speaker 2: The Boyfriend, The Boyfriend okayka, Lydia's boyfriend.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I let's just deal with it. Let's just talk
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  Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, let's just talk No, what we're always
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  Speaker 1: let's just talk about this. And that's another thing, Like
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  Speaker 1: Beatrice is a gay woman and she's always on a
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  Speaker 1: gay conspiracy. Like I ever look gay. According to Beatrice,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we think Cody Brown's a little bit gay,
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  Speaker 1: Like everybody's a little bit gay when it comes to you.
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  Speaker 1: So I see what you're doing with the hand.
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  Speaker 2: What I didn't say nothing, and.
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  Speaker 1: You're saying that maybe Zach is gay.
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  Speaker 2: I have not been the only one saying that. People
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  Speaker 2: on Reddit have been saying that.
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  Speaker 1: I do feel like from a metaposition, like globally and spiritually,
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  Speaker 1: it's probably inappropriate for us to comment on that. But
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  Speaker 1: also the precedent has been set in our podcast that
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  Speaker 1: we do comment about that. Yeah, And I think that
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  Speaker 1: it's actually a good conversation for us to get into
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  Speaker 1: because of the Christian fundamentalism of it all, because we're
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  Speaker 1: obviously pro LGBTQ, obviously very pro that. Like I want
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  Speaker 1: to have the conversation around that, but beyond that, beyond
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  Speaker 1: just that, Like just my husband, I was actually sitting
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  Speaker 1: in the recliner while I was watching this and he's like, Wow,
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  Speaker 1: she's pretty Lydia. Yeah, I'm like, not only is she
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  Speaker 1: fucking beautiful, she is gorgeous, like her body, oh my body,
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  Speaker 1: audio buying, Like she has so much going for her,
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  Speaker 1: and it's because of this fucked up religion and the
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  Speaker 1: way that Kim and Barry raised her that she's gonna
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  Speaker 1: marry this young man after knowing him for three months,
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  Speaker 1: this young man, you could get any man you want,
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  Speaker 1: literally hedterosexual male and apparently gay males too. You can
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  Speaker 1: get any male that you want. You're so beautiful. You're
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  Speaker 1: also a kind person. You're a good person. There are
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  Speaker 1: a lot of guys out there looking for Christian girls
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  Speaker 1: and everything. How do the beautiful woman this person.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but this guy gave me the ick. I
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  Speaker 2: told you that earlier today. I'm like, he gives me
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  Speaker 2: the ick, and not because he's probably gay, but like
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  Speaker 2: just because he's icky. I'm sorry, he's so weird. No,
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  Speaker 2: he's just very strange.
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  Speaker 1: Like my husband was watching as I was saying, and
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  Speaker 1: he's just like why is he laughing in gig all
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  Speaker 1: the time, constantly like bearing his teeth. I think there's
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  Speaker 1: something wrong with people who like smile with like their
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  Speaker 1: whole mouth and their gums and everything. Like some people
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  Speaker 1: can't help because they have a lot of teeth. Like
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  Speaker 1: I feel like he could. No, I feel like he
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  Speaker 1: could help it, but he's just like bearing is all
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  Speaker 1: his fucking teeth. There's something very crazy about it. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know it just I just feel bad for Lydia
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  Speaker 1: because I got married the first time when I was
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  Speaker 1: eighteen years old. I came from Evangelicalism, charismatic Christianity, like
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  Speaker 1: I had Jesus ideas about marriage, and that shit didn't
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  Speaker 1: work out. Olivia had ideas about what marriage was going
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  Speaker 1: to be, like so did Ethan. That didn't work out.
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  Speaker 1: And here we see Lydia just marching into this fucked
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  Speaker 1: up marriage. And you know he's got a micro penis.
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: Did you see his feet when he was talking to
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  Speaker 1: Barry with them socks on, I'm like, they were this big.
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: They were baby feet.
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  Speaker 2: There are so many things I could say about this
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  Speaker 2: little baby feet, just colorad and gay guy.
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  Speaker 1: I just know I'm sorry their wedding night. I hadn't
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  Speaker 1: even kissed it.
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  Speaker 2: They are Virgil.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, he's gonna pull out his two incher and she's
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh, thank you Jesus. And she's not
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  Speaker 1: gonna know better.
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  Speaker 2: Because she never had sex with nobody. She don't think
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  Speaker 2: it's great. No, And he was the one that suggested,
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  Speaker 2: let's wait until we get married to kiss Yeah, let's wait,
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  Speaker 2: because he doesn't know how to because he doesn't want
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  Speaker 2: to kiss a woman or.
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  Speaker 1: That, and also he doesn't want to have any sexual
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  Speaker 1: activity because she's going to discover that he's got a
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  Speaker 1: micro poenie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's not.
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  Speaker 1: Gonna know any better because nobody ever taught these kids
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  Speaker 1: how to be human beings and be in relationships with
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  Speaker 1: other people and like demand better for themselves. And so
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  Speaker 1: Lydia is just so starry over this literal sweet young man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure, and I know his mama loves him, and
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  Speaker 1: Jesus sure, Like how did we get here?
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  Speaker 2: Sure?
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  Speaker 1: How did we get here? I don't know, girl, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm sorry, I just had to. I'm coming out
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  Speaker 1: the gate. You are with so many opinions.
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  Speaker 2: On one today.
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  Speaker 1: But that young man, I'm sure he's a great person,
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  Speaker 1: but like we're just gonna marry him.
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  Speaker 2: After three months? Four months?
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  Speaker 1: Actually, I can't take it. Get the paddles art attack, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: carry on, all right?
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  Speaker 2: Well, we start the episode with a little brief recap
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  Speaker 2: from Ethan with his big old beard and his big
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  Speaker 2: old cigar, and then Kim and her sugar body.
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  Speaker 1: My god, can we just pause because girl, I'm I'm
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: out here a literal bowling ball of a person. Okay,
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: I got a big old billion everything, and I got
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: big old booty, big old back, and I admit it
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  Speaker 1: and I know it, and so I'm not here necessarily
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  Speaker 1: to shame anybody. But when you take into consideration the
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: fact that Kim Plath raised these kids on no sugar,
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  Speaker 1: no fast food, no fun, no alcohol. Remember Ethan when
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  Speaker 1: he was married to Olivia, never had a pop, never
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: had a cook Yeah, never had anything because Kim was
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: telling these kids they couldn't do it. Meanwhile, year after year,
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  Speaker 1: season after season, she's just getting bigger, sneaking off to
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  Speaker 1: the barn, eating those m and ms and drinking her fucking.
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  Speaker 2: Vodka We've said so many times too.
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  Speaker 1: And having like a sugar coma from all the food
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  Speaker 1: that she's ingesting on the side. And now here we
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  Speaker 1: are in season seven. I know I'm going crazy and
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna pull back. But like what when
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  Speaker 1: they showed her leaning over in the kitchen and she.
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: Was wearing oh it was in the kitchen, and then
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: in the charades when they were playing.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: God and she's wearing black because like she feels like
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: if I'm wearing black, they can't see me because it's nighttime.
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: But I'm just like Kim.
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  Speaker 2: Girl, she's let herself go.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: I don't understand. I'm listen, Kim, Kim, it's not okay.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: All of your children are like beautiful, I know. And
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: then here comes Berry or also known as Beeboop Bop Zaddie. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know, i'man out here with the pectorals and the
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  Speaker 1: freaking biceps, and I'm just like damn Berry.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely jags with a beard and everything.
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  Speaker 1: Like a non human entity. I think you're looking pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: And then here comes Kim. I couldn't. I just felt
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  Speaker 1: a certain way about it, did you?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah? I think she thought the divorce was gonna
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: treat her like it treated Barry, because Berry had a
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: whole makeover, basically like he's gotten so much more attractive.
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  Speaker 2: And that's saying a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Who thought Berry c three po Berry?
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  Speaker 2: But I mean season one Berry to season seven Berry
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: is like crazy transformation. And then you have season one
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  Speaker 2: Kim and season seven Kim. I'm just gonna leave it there.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: Well, this is a woman who wrapped her car around
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: a tree because she was driving drunk and I ain't
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: got no grace for people who drive drunk. I think
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: it's despicable and awful. But like, you've got such an
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: alcohol problem though, that you're driving drunk. Yeah, and you're
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: drinking all the time. Oh yeah, and it's showing up
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  Speaker 1: in your belly and for some reason, sorry about it.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: For some reason. She also mentions her and Ken that
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: man she had an adulteress affair with Isaac's pilot teacher guy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because last year, like they were having dinner together, they
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: were kissy, kissy, But this year she's like, yeah, we
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: haven't had sex. I don't know if we're going to.
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  Speaker 2: Well she just said, yeah, we're just friends right now.
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  Speaker 2: We don't kiss, we don't fuck, we don't live together.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, what.
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  Speaker 1: Did you think about that, Beatrice? What do you think
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  Speaker 1: is going on here?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe he didn't want to be a
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  Speaker 2: part of the limelight. Maybe he realized Kim's a big, old,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: raging drunk.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Maybe she's gained seventy five pounds in the last year.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Sorry, yeah, which, I mean a lot
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: of us have weight issues, but like it does speak
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: to your mental yeah, your mentals. Yeah, yeah, if like,
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  Speaker 1: you're just out here just consuming alcohol and eating all
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: the McDonald's. I don't get it, Like Kim, your life
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  Speaker 1: is out of control, and your pretending your life is
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: not out of control. You're all just pretending this mom
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  Speaker 1: here is okay, this obese ballet dancer with her fucking
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: gym and stuff like, come on, let's call a thing
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  Speaker 1: a thing. Sorry, I told you, I can't. I know
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  Speaker 1: We've got a lot of fire for the after show,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm starting out like I don't like anybody. Oh
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: my god, y'all are crazy for real.
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  Speaker 2: Well I like some people, but anyway, we have the
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  Speaker 2: recap with Ethan and Kim, and apparently Kim last year,
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: when she bought her midlife crisis turd boat, she realized
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: that it's not fun to live on a floating turd
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  Speaker 2: in Florida, okay, the Florida Bay, And so she went
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: and bought herself a house I guess somewhere in Florida.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: How can she afford it?
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Credit card?
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Her divorce is still being contested because Barry is making
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: it so difficult for her, which I love, Like, you
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: can't put a mortgage, you cannot finance a home, like
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: so where is that.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Maybe she's renting though people put rent on credit cards
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: to sit so maybe she's renting because I don't think
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: she can afford to buy a house on her own.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: But she, I guess, got rid of the boat. And
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: then we have Mariah who moved back home to live
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: with Barry, which I think we saw last season. It
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: was after her bad breakup with mister potato Head. And
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: then we have Ethan saying that he's divorced from Olivia.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Life is great now, he can do what he wants,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: he can see his family, he can see with his family,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: which is great.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: But they're not divorced technically, no.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: But he says that they're broken up allegedly according to
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Olivia that they haven't. He hasn't signed the papers or something.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Micah moved in with Veronica. They have
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: since broken up, but in the season they've moved in together.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: And then we have like a recap from the last
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: episode of season six where they had their family band
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: concert that was a total shit show because it was
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: all about Mariah breaking up with mister potato Head and
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: then she got back together with him at that concert
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: and her family freaked the fuck out about it, and
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: then we have with her new gay boyfriend, allegedly.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know that he's gay. I think he's just
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: maybe socially oh, I think. But how are you living
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: in Denver, Colorado? I assume it's Denver, Maybe it's not.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's in some sort of poe Heart of col Peblo. Yeah,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: some like that. But how but he looks like he's
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: from Denver, and having lived there for many years, I
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: can tell you he looks like he's from Denver, YEP
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: or the Springs or whatever. Like, how do you live
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: in a somewhat sophisticated place like that and have like
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: absolutely no social skills? Honey?
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Well, if you're raised FUNDI yeah, if you're stuck in
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: like a youth group, yeah, you kind of are stunted
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: socially like that. But it's perfect for Lyddy, I guess,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: because she's also socially stunted.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: She's not though, I mean, I understand she's in a
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: closet with her notes and her Jesus stuff, but like,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: she's actually very amiable. She has a job, she can
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: talk to people, she can socialize. This guy is such
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: a deep dude. I know he's such a door.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: He really gives me the I don't know what it
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: is about him. But then we start the episode with
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Kim at her new house in Florida or whatever. She's
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: hosting a family dinner get together. Except Micah no sorry,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: except Mariah and Ethan couldn't make it because Mariah to
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: work and Ethan's out of town. But Kim invited all
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: the children over and Barry because they're still trying to
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: be cordial for the sake of the children and the
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: TV show. And so they're having a family dinner and
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: this is where she talks about Ken and how they're
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: not hooking, which is weird.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: And it's weird that you would say that. I know,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: why would you bring that up. I don't know why, Like,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I know, you're addressing Ken and maybe he's not going
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: to be on the season, but you could just say, yeah,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: we're not together anymore. I don't know. It's just weird
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: that she would mention that they're not having sex. Don't
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: you think that's weird?
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: It's very bizarre. Well maybe it's like she's looking at
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Barry and is like, dang, how could you not? I mean, dude,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: he glowed up.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: He has got to be just so thrilled with himself,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: like walking into that room looking so fly.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: His muscles bulging out of it.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: I know, like she's just walking around like Kim, and
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: she's got to be thinking about all that she no
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: longer has because she made the decision to be an
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: adulteress and a drunk straight up.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: It's crazy to me, but we're just all pretending like
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: everything's fine.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I would love if you talked about it.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I know it would be really great instead of playing charades,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: but like whatever. And then we kind of hear from
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Micah in these scenes where he's talking about how there's
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: tension between Veronica and the family, very similar to the
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: shit that happened with Olivia and Ethan, and Micah kind
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: of touches on it. He says that Veronica feels like
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: the family is after her. So he didn't say that
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: the family hates her. He said Veronica feels this way, right,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: And we'll get into it later in the episode. And
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: then we kind of hear from Isaac a little bit.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: He's dating a girl.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: My god, it was looking at little Ice all. He's
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: not little anymore, tall drink of water. He's definitely taller
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: than Ethan and Micah. He is working as a farm
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: hand or something, and we're going to get to all
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: of that. But I'm just like, oh my god, I've
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: missed you young men. And I know I'm like just
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: some old lady and everything, but I just I do
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: harken back and remember the days when I could have
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: pulled a young Isaac plaiths owns his own plane and
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: traged Oh my god, man, I'm impressed.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I know me too, Yeah, very much, sir. I love it,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: and even like Micah, like Mike is looking so hands.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: You cannot tell me that he's not absolutely angelically beautiful,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: absolutely the most beautiful Plaith currently in existence, although Amber
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: is coming up behind.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: It, and the Amber is just like Amber is a
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: smoke show.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Beauteously Lydia's gordeous, but like I think it is Amber
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: out of all the girls, although we've got a couple
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: of young girls coming up too. But Micah's very handsome.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Oh objectively for sure. And then we have like flashbacks
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: to how the family used to be, how they've kind
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: of changed over the years, and Micah talks about it,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: like how they all kind of went their own way,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: especially the older kids and they had to figure some
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: shit out. They even went no contact for a bit,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: but they're all kind of coming together and like trying
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: to reunite, which is really good. And then we have
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Ethan and a little interstitial saying that he's looking for
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: a big titty babe.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: He just said it. It was kind of there, we
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: said it. It's kind of funny. I mean he's a man,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: he's a young man with testosterone, and that's kind of
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: the deal.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, like what can you expect? Right, And then,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: in true plaithfill fashion, we flash on over to Lydia
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: singing to Jesus.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was so cringey, Like.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Please stop singing.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, Lyddya's who told you? But
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I understand. Also it is an expression of your love
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: for Jesus Christ, and that's meaningful and I'm going to
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: give that to you. However, I also know that you
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: have released albums and like you you do this, you
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: think you do this professional. She shouldn't. Please, I'm just please,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: it's not good.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: You got a warble. Yeah, it's a very.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Warbly, quivery, quiver full kind of voice. And I'm just like,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I understand you're worshiping your Lord and Savior. Yeah, but
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: it's so bad it is I like to get up
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: and walk out of the room for a little while,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: just pretend it's not happening.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: I literally wrote my notes. I'm like, please stop, why
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: are we singing to God?
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: He stop? God gets it straight up. He got it
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: when you read He read your notes. We don't have
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: to continue to do this for God.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: He guess they know God. But this is where we
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: see her and her new boyfriend, Zach Wise, who she
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: ultimately ends up marrying. We know this already, but this
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: is the beginning of our impression of him. Yeah, and
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: they've only been dating for like four months or whatever.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: They met well, I think on a mission trip or
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: something in Colorado. I think she was up in Colorado.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: She met him there and he was like, oh sweet,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: a young, impressionable Christian girl that I can convince that
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I'm totally yes, And so I guess they hit it off.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: They kind of started dating. I think after two weeks
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: they realized that they were gonna be together forever. Zach
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: was the one that suggested they should wait for kissing
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: until marriage, and Lydia's like, oh my god, I've always
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: they've always wanted that, and their their moments were so
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: awkward to me because Lydia is very obviously sprung over
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: this guy for some reason. She says she's excited to
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: kiss him on their wedding day. He's totally silent about it.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: He actually like playfully pushes her away at one point,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, that's not funny. No, it's not funny.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: It's not funny. And I just think of all the
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: lovely young women in the world who have been sucked
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: into these various cults, whether they're Christian or Mormon or whatever,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: and given away to these men who are not worthy
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: of all of their charms and gifts and talents. And
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I mean again, I say, I'm sure Zach's a nice
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: young man. I'm sure he's got dreams and hopes for
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: his future. But like Lydia, you have been so underserved
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: by your family. Like somebody, Mariah, you should have sat
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Lydia down, And I say, this is what a penis is,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: this is where it goes. These are the types of
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: guys you might meet. Sometimes they're married, and Mariah would know,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: sometimes they're not, you know, but like somebody give her
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: some life lessons so that she can select for herself
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: better than she currently is. I'm just I feel so
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: bad because I don't think this is gonna work. I'm sorry,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: unless they stay so indoctrinated in whatever religion they're a
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: part of, and they have a mess of babies and
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: so it gets really complicated to split. But like, I
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: just don't see that it's gonna work. And then you're
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: gonna get to your wedding night.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I know I can't.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have some sort of beautiful angelic lingerie or
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: a nightgown or whatever, and he's gonna be like in boxers,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: he's gonna have like a micro penis and it won't
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: even be able to get hard because you would rather
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: be with the man, and somebody's like gonna work as
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: hard as he can. I do an erect penis for
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: your beautiful body. Line, I know your beautiful body.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: You're gonna waste your beautiful body.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: It's not gonna know what the fuck he's doing. It's
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: gonna be one pump and then a dump. Maybe you're
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: gonna be like you have. You're not gonna have any
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: idea what good sex is unless I don't know, maybe
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: you watch some porn but you won't because you're in
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: a cult. Like I just I just long. I grieve
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: for the years that she's gonna be spending toiling in
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: this ridiculous relationship. I know, such a beautiful young woman. Goddamn,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: why don't you just encourage her to go to university? Kim,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: you got to go to college. That's where you met Barry.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Barry you were married before you met Kim. You went
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: to university. Can we send your kids to get an education? No? God,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: it gets so mad.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I know they're really frustrating. And this whole scene with
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Lydia and Zach. Look, I'm gonna be very clear. I
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: know I'm joking about the fact that I think he's gay.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: I do stand by that, but I'm not saying that
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: in like a mean way. She isn't either. We're not
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: saying this like to be derogatory towards him. Maybe he's
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: just socially awkward. I really hope for that. I hope
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: maybe he's just a socially awkward straight guy. I hope
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: he gives Lydia the best bang in sex of her life.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna happen. I worry about her.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: I worry about her with this marriage. I worry about
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: her with this guy. Not because I think he's like
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: a prey or anything. No, I just don't think that
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: like she's gonna be satisfied sexually or emotion relationally in
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: this marriage.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Is always going to be about Jesus and that's it.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Do you think he's ever gonna be incentivized to learn
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: cunny lingis no like how to really please a woman.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: He's just gonna try and get her pregnant. Yeah, have
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: a mess of babies.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: He's gonna try because he's not gonna be able to.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I hope that he said girl and
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: it's again. I mean, we're this is a comedy podcast.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: We're making jokes obviously, but like if he is also
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: if he is almost sexual mean or bisexual or whatever,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Like I don't want this for him either. No, like
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: a sweet young man, he does seem very innocent. I
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: love that about him. He's very there's a very childlike
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: aspect to him. But like I wouldn't want him to
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: be in a situation where he can't be happy because
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: he can't be himself, Like I think like Lydia is
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: being herself as she knows herself to be at this time.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Reade twenty years of age or whatever. Agreed, but like,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: this is not going to be the same person she
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: is in even three years, five years, much less ten years.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: I just I don't know. I get a bad feeling
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: about all of it. And this is where we hear
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: that Zach wants to ask Barry for her hand in marriage,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: which we'll get to later in that episode.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: But it was so cringey, dude, so crazy. That was nuts.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: It was so nuts. And then we switch gears and
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: we go over to Micah and Veronica's house in Boca Raton,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Florida or whatever. They have been dating for two years now.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: They look so happy together.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: She's abusing him, dude, she's terrorizing him. She is so mean.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say it outright. She is so fucking mean.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Because they talk about how they bought another house like
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: three minutes down the road. They're gonna renovate it or whatever,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: and then I maybe live in it, maybe sell it.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know, But like Micah says something to the
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: effect of like I've been working to the bone every
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: day and every night for weeks straight. And then Veronica
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: cuts them off, and she goes, well, we both have,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: we both have because God forbid. He just says to
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: the camera he's been working for the bone, which I
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: believe that he has been.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: You know what that reminded me of. It reminded me
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: of Kate and John Goslin on the couch when he's
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: just sitting there and she's like, oh my God, why
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: do you have to breathe so loudly? And he's like, Jesus,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I'm literally just sitting here existing and it's an offense
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: to you. That is exactly That's what it was giving
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: from Veronica, Like she has a real hard edge to her,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: and you know what, in many ways in your life
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: that is going to serve you. Sure, I'm sure it's
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: great in business. I'm sure that that's wonderful for you,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: but like in relationships, that is such a difficult personality
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: to have to be contend with.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Yep, And she literally has a sign in their house.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I'm totally fine if everything goes exactly
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: to my plan always on. That's literally like a sign.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: And it's like every bad thing about Kim Yep that
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: might exist, like maybe she's a little mean, maybe she
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: was passive aggressive. Maybe she did some terrible things, but
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: like maybe it was a bit more hidden. Like they
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: are on full display in Veronica. And that old adage
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: that we kind of attract or are drawn to people
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: who remind us of our parents if we don't get therapized,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: didn't like become aware, Like that is so clear to me.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Although Kim is not as direct and overt as Veronica is,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I think Veronica embodies a lot of that toxic shit
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: that Kim has long had and demonstrated on her family.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I just Veronica is a fucking trip.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Man, Dude, She's a trip. And it's crazy to me
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: because you remember last season where we were keeping her
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: a secret because she was supposed to be shy and
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: she didn't want to be on the camera and she
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: was like really quiet, and last season she was super awkward,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: very fucking shy, like not saying a lot too much,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: like every now and then the producers would catch her
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: saying something nasty a little bit. But this year it's
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: like full on, gloves are off. She doesn't care because
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: right after we talk about her and Mica buying her house,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: right into Mariah because apparently Veronica has issues with Mariah
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: now because of some bullshit.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Right, Well, so the issue is that when Mariah was
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: dating the married potato Head, Yeah, she was talking to
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Veronica every single day, sometimes three times a day, kind
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: of fighting in Veronica, and so Veronica was giving her
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: counsel like girlfriends do. And then Mariah breaks up with
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: potato Head and then gets back together with potato Head,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: and then there's that scene in the studio where everybody's
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: talking about potato Head and Veronica and Ethan are talking
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: about how like he's supposed to have like a child,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: like it's a terrible situation and all this stuff. Well, Mariah,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: when she got back together with potato Head, she started
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: to resent Veronica for sharing the things that she did
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: according to Veronica. According to Veronica, Veronica's like, well, but
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Ethan was saying the same thing at the same time,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: so it's not fair that you would single me out.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, there's a higher level of
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: relationship that Mariah has with Ethan, that's her brother. Of course, Veronica,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: you are you don't have that same you don't share
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: the same connectivity. So I can dig it though, Like
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: if I'm Veronica and I've been your confidant for months,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: and you've been sharing all of this information and then
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: you break up with this guy, thank god, and then
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: we're talking about it freely with your family, and then
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: you get back with him and then you ghost me
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, like that's not cool. That is not
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: being a good friend. But the level to which she
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: takes this is out of control. So we've got a
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: little Amber, Micah's sister, fifteen years old, who's come into
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: town to Florida visiting from Georgia. Because she is very
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: important to her. She said this with her big girl words.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: She's like, it's a priority for me to work on
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: my relationships with my siblings. So she's there for Micah
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: and to keep that connection going. And so she's sitting
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: down with Veronica. They're both putting on their makeup, and
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: the subject of Mariah comes up, and the subject of
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Barry comes up, and Micah's standing there and Veronica starts
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: to go off about Micah's dad, Amber's dad, and then Mariah,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: their sister no filter called they called me a liar.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: You didn't even stand up for me, and who does
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: she think she is? The way to like? And Amber
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: tries to defend Mariah a little bit well, as she
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: did apologize to you, she sent you the letter.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: We haven't gone to that part yet.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but like I'm just I know I'm going off.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: But like that scene with Amber and Veronica, to me,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: was so abusive, like to be so unconscious, to just
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: be rate this little girl's father and sister in front
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: of her, like what are you doing well?
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: And Micah is literally trying to tell Veronica, like, my
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: dad never called you a liar. He said that you
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: lied about this one thing, but that doesn't mean that
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: you're a liar. And then Veronica escalates even further and
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: is like, well, but that's my character. He called me
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: a liar. And then she starts talking about how Mariah
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: is a bad person, a bad friend, she lied to her,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: and she's saying all of this shit to Amber. It's
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: really ridiculous.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: It's abusive.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: It's abusive. And this is what Olivia did in a
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: much subtler way, like behind the scenes with Mariah, with Mariah,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: and she did it to the littles too. She did
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: it to Amber, she did to the other ones. I
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: forget their names. I'm sorry Cassia and Mercy and Mercy,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: and there's another one Amber.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: I think that's it.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I don't remember. Okay, oh, she did it to the littles.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: And now we have Veronica doing it the same thing.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: And Micah's trying to write a fine line, and he
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: even talks about this, He's like, you know, there's a
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: lot of this tension between Veronica and my family. I
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: don't want to end up like Ethan, and I don't
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: want to end up having to choose one or the other.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Like I'm writing a very fine line of trying to
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: be there for my girlfriend but not sacrifice my relationships
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: with my family. And I thought that was so awesome,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: and it just speaks to like Micah's piscy and energy,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: like he feels for everybody. He's like trying to be
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: the advocate for everyone. But then you have Veronica the
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: freaking tornado over here.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: She's just escalating, yea, and like making it as bad
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: as possible and refusing to kind of see the middle
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: ground or like what somebody might have meant so that
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: you can make it better, not just for yourself because
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: you seem really angry, but also for your partner. He's
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: trying to mitigate this and trying to figure a way through,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: so it's not terrible, and you're doing it in front
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: of a child, somebody who's impressionable, as if you're trying
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: to turn her against her family, and that does have
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: echoes to what Olivia did. Definitely, Yeah, it's but I
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: mean I think Olivia honestly was unconscious a lot of
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: the time to what she was doing. Personally. I think
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: that she was also somebody who's been deeply traumatized and
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: needed ally needed people on her side because there was
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: a deeper emotional driver for Olivia. With Veronica, it is
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: like right on Front Street. Yeah, and it is vitriolic, poisonous, mean,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: as you said, and it's just crazy. And I'm like,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I feel like, Micah, you are an abused person. And
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying Mike is perfect, because of course Veronica
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: has talked about how he cheated on her and all
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: the stuff. We'll talk about it in the after show, Like,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: and he may have done those things, I don't know,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: but like, the way you're treating him now on camera
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: in front of a child is not a good look
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: And Veronica's saying shit nowadays about how the producers are
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: giving her a bad edit this year and trying to
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: turn us against her, and I'm like, you're doing it yourself.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: They cannot use anything that you don't give them.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Like you're literally doing it all yourself. They're just filming there,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: They're not editing anything, like they're just filming it.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: But I digress well, And I also want to say,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: like when we meet Olivia, she's a bit younger, and
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: were meeting Veronica at I think Veronica's twenty five, twenty
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: six around that time. When we met Olivia, she was
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: nineteen or twenty years old. She was a younger girl,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I believe. So I think Olivia is only twenty five now, right.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Olivia I think is twenty six or twenty seven. I
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: think Veronica is twenty two in this season. Oh really, yeah,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: so she got it totally. Well, yeah, but Olivia was younger.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: She was younger, so like in her process, yeah, she
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: was still transforming. She was trying to figure herself out
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: and trying to discover like, well, what do I really need,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: what do I want? What have I been through? Like
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I could really appreciate the process in Olivia, whereas with Veronica,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: like she seems to start from that point of just like, no,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: fuck all, y'all, you won't do this shit to me.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: And the way that she uses her words and her
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: viper mouth, her viper's mouth is viprous, the word snaky mouth,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Like I'm just like I can't with you, lady, well
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: and I cannot.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: It's very like all or nothing. There is no grace
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: for anybody. There is no understanding, there's no nuance at all.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: It's like Mariah does this one shitty thing right, like
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: as a friend, and like, look, I feel like we've
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: all had girlfriends who have done this kind of shit
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: where you are telling them until you're blue in the face,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: like this guy that you're with is a piece of
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: shit or this person that you're with is a piece
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: of shit, like you need to break up with them,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: and then they break up with them, and then they
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: get back together with them. Like I feel like everybody
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: has a story like that. Does that make Mariah a
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: bad person? No, But she's naive. She's also young. She
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: doesn't know what the fuck she's doing.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: But she was wrong.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: She did that.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: That was wrong, of course, But we get to do
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: wrong things exactly and then try to make amends for
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: them exactly. When so apparently Mariah sent a letter.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Let's get to that, okay, because Mariah. Yeah, because Mariah.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: We see her with her black hair in the Okay
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: park in a church parking lot.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: What do we think about the hair?
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Terrible? It's so bad it washes her out.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Why.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: But I think she's going through her emo phase. And look,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I've had that.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Always screaming for attention, and it's like taking a contrast,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: like to the very end of the scale so that
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: somebody notices you. I'm like, no, you're pretty without that.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't know that she wants to
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: be pretty. I think she wants to be seen.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I think she wants to yeah, and she wants to
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: be different, and she wants to like break out of
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: her mold and still.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Be therapy out. Please go to therapy, dude.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: If anybody needs therapy, it's poor little Mariah. Yeah, all
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: of them do. Like everybody in this family needs therapy,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: but Mariah.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: The subreddits hate Mariah, I know, And I'm like, wow, guys,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: she's like twenty two years old when she grew up
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: in a literal cult.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: And she's like really trying to figure her shit out.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's getting a lot of things wrong, of course,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: and she has alopecia. She lost all of her hair
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: and not just patches, like all season, she lost all
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: of her hair. Yeah, So like she is going through
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: so much, and like the way there's no grace for
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: her on some of these subreddits, Like it's not that
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: she's not getting things wrong, she is, of course, Like
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: there's just no space to have I know, I don't
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: get it.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: I don't get it at all. But we see her
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: in the church parking lot and she's talking to the
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: producers and this is where she talks about the issues
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: with Veronica, and she does acknowledge it. She acknowledges that
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: what she did was wrong with going back with mister
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: potato Head and like causing all of this drama and havoc,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: and she's really trying to figure her shit out. And
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: she talks about her friendship with Veronica, about how she
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: tried to confide in her about some things but they
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: got blown out of proportion on Veronica's part, and so
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Mariah tried to step back a little bit and in
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: doing so probably ghosted, just like she did with her
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: siblings a couple of years ago and with Olivia and
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: everything this is Mariah's m O. But Mariah does say
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Veronica's got a really strong personality and she has a
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: really difficult time standing up and expressing herself to people
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: who have such strong personalities valid, which is completely fucking valid.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: And she it's kind of echoing the stuf with Olivia too,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: because Olivia has a pretty strong personality as well. So
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm feeling for Mariah here. Mariah says
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: that she felt the need to apologize to Veronica, and
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: she didn't know how to do it, because again, she
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: doesn't know how to express herself to somebody with such
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: a strong personality, And so she wrote Veronica a letter.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: And then we bop back on over to Veronica and
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Mike on the couch and Veronica brings out the letter.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Dot Dot reads the letter, reads it out loud. We
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: hear the letter, and I'm thinking, that's a great apology,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Like that's taking ownership for the shit that I did.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: That's apologizing saying I'm sorry for the shit that I did.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: And it's like, and I'd love to get back to
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: a place. I realized it's probably never going to be
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: what it was, but I'd love to get back to
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: a place where this can be copaesthetic, there can be
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: some harmony, like I thought in terms of emotional intelligence,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: like emotional EQ like I thought Mariah did really well.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, and there's Veronica sitting on the couch reading
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: this and just with such disdain, like just dripping with
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: dismissal and like, oh, okay, well but it wasn't a
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: good enough apology. The fact she's twenty two is very
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: telling to me. Yep, this speaks a lot to the
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: kind of family that she comes from and how they
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: communicated and expressed and how they forgave and did not forgive,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: And like her own emotional intelligence, which if you ask me,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: is absolutely bare minimum, isn't even there. She's just a
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: mean person who looks for an opportunity to dominate and
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: to control. And then you've got Mariah speaking in this
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: little girl voice, huh, which always puts me on edge
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: because for me, when adult women speak in a little
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: girl voice, that tends to mean to me that they
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: were abused somehow, and they're trying to present themselves as
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: small as possible, as little as possible, as soft as possible,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: they're not attacked. Yeah, so you've got Mariah over here,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: who did something wrong, and she's owning it and she's
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: trying to make amends. And then you've got big head
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Veronica with her ass mouth yeah, and her mean fucking aura, Yeah,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: just ripping her to shreds. It's not safe for Mariah
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: to be in a relationship with this woman. It's not
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: at all anybody to be in a relationship with this person.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: And if you ask me, and it's like, not only
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: does she read the letter out loud on air, then
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: she reads it again with Amber and Micah when she's
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: doing her makeup, and she starts dissecting it with Mariah's
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: siblings and starts telling Amber, who is speaking very kindly,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: like very mouse like, being like, well, but she tried
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: to apologize for it here. She said that she's sorry
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: that she treated you this way, and Veronica immediately shuts
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: it down and is like, no, it's not a real
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: apology because she lied, and she needed to say that
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: she was sorry for lying to me, because that was
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: what was the issue. And then Micah again tries to
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: defend Mariah, and Veronica again shoots him down and says, no,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: she's in the she's in the wrong, and so is Barry,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: because Barry called me a liar and I don't trust
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: your family and you don't stand up for me. And again,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: what does that sound like Olivia fucking Plath?
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: But way worse, way worse, way worse than Olivia Plath.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: And when you zoom out and look at the timeline,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: we're not at the wedding yet we know shit goes
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: down at the wedding. Veronica leaves early and things like that.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: When you zoom out and you realize Micah has left her,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: and you see her behavior right now. Oh yeah, so
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: before they're breaking up, before they're even thinking about breaking up,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: you see her behavior as she conducts herself in a
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: relationship with somebody. It makes total sense to me that
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: she's no longer with Micah. And now you've got her
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: out on all these subreddits and we can talk about
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: it in the after show, just showing her ass. If
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: you ask me, I get it. Maybe you are scorned,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: maybe you're unhappy with like your portrayal. I get it.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: There's a lot going on, But like to be constantly
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: twenty four to seven up on the subreddits making these
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: wild accusations against all of the plasts, all of them
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: every single one of like wild accusations. It's just like
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: it's giving you need a sedative, it's giving maybe some
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: mental health, some therapy. It's giving, like what's wrong with you, lady, honestly.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Giving toxic like it's giving. You were a mean girl
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: to hear the least, really fucking toxic to everybody. And
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: you're being unforgiving and cold.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Yes, and you're supposed to love this person. You don't
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: even seem like you, like Micah.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know what love is. I'm sorry. I'm
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: sorry that he broke up with you and you're bitter
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't break up with a toxic, abusive person.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Shit, dude, it's crazy. And then switching gears, we jump
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: on over to Isaac. Oh my god, there's a working farm.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: So he's got a job on a farm and he's
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: getting on his big old tractor, big old tractor with
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: his wrangler. It's not a little tracts, a big old
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: track people farm hat. Yeah.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Everything, I'm just like, look at my young man growing
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: up to be an adult man.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: He is so handsome. And then we get to meet
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: his absolute beautiful southern bell Kaylin, who they've only been
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: dating for like two months, but Isaac.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Says he's in love and can see himself with her
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: for years.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I love it because she brings him lunch. He's working
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: and he comes over to the She comes over to
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: the farm and brings him lunch and everything. He calls
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: her Pooky. He has her ride in the tractor stars.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I love them both.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: I think I love it too, And it's like he's
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: he's sprung for her in much the same way that
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Lydia is sprung for Zach. But for whatever reason, I
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: love Isaac with Caylin even though that's my man. Yeah,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: that is my man. She's still young man. I know
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: who you think. You are just walking up in here
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: taking my man. But I love that for him. Yes,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: and I think it's so so sweet.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: I think they're great. I want more of them. Yes,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: But then we bought back on over of course to
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: kro I know where we have Zach going to ask
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: beat boot up Barry for Lydia's hand in marriage. And
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: this conversation made me cringe so hard.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: It was so painful. It was really painful. It was
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: so awkward, it was horrible. It made me think of
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: my husband, who actually my father's long past thirty years now.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: But like, actually went somewhere with my brother and they
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: were driving somewhere and asked for my brother's blessing. Did
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: you sweet? It is so sweet? That's it is very traditional.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: And my brother's like, are you kidding me? Absolutely, let's
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: do it right now. But I just thought I love
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: the tradition of that. I realized that, you know, maybe
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: I'm older. People are like, well, she's not property, like
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: you don't have to ask for permissions, and that's true. Yeah,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: but I just I think there's something very quaint and
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: lovely about that. And so when my husband did it,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: I thought, oh my god, yes, oh my god, what
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: do you want? What do you want?
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Come on?
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: But when Zack did it, when Zach and his black
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: socks and his little baby feet, dude sits across from
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: yoked studded out Beeboo Bot Barry Zaddie, and he's just.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: You're so mean teeth, dude, his teeth are on full display.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: He's just like a after Edgar. I'm just like, somebody
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: helped this young man.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Well, and he's like, so fucking awkward, dude. He's so
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: awkward because he sits down, he sits down and Berry's like,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: what's up, kiddo, And Zach's like, well, you know why
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I'm here? And Berry's like, no, I don't.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Actually don't, like why are you here?
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: And Zach's like, are you really going to make me
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: ask the question? Okay, well would you let me?
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Got it took a long time to get there, with
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of weird giggling, a lot of vacillating. Because
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: he's gay, he has no home training, he has no
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: life experience. He did not have a mother who taught
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: him how to be a man to a woman. He
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: doesn't have a dad who modeled being a man for
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: a man. He's just not had that. So I just
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: want to I just want to say I think there's
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: a world where he's not gay. I don't know, but
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: that he's just he doesn't have any experience whatsoever outside
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: of Jesus, I don't know. He doesn't know how to act.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: But granted, this scene was so bad.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: It was so bad. And so he asks Barry for
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Lydia's hand in marriage, and Barry is like, absolutely, I
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: thought you'd never asked. And this pissed me off. Me too,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: has pissed me off, so fucking bad because in Barry's
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: interstitial he says that I guess Lydia had two other suitors.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: She had two other bachelors that were like eyeing her
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: or something, but she wasn't as sprung for those two
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: as she was for Zach. And so he's very supportive
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: of their relationship. And then Zach says, well, I want
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: to propose in two weeks, which is absolutely insane, and
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Barry thinks that that's completely fine. He actually says he
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: totally understands the quick timeline because him and Kim did it.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, can you like have a little
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: bit of reflection and be like, hmm, I think that's
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: a little too soon, because you know, me and Kim
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: did that, and now she's a big, old, raging alcoholic
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: and we're divorced, and she cheated on me and our
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: marriage was a complete fucking failure. Like, maybe don't do that,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: but no, we don't hear any of that from Mary.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: He just smiles. He's super giddy.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: And that's how you know this is a broken family,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: because any father worth his salt would have said something like, well,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: she's an adult, she can marry whoever she wants. However,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I would like to just state my reservations, Like I
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: think you guys should wait a year, like I always heard,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: like you should wait a full four seasons to see
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: how your potential partner exists and reacts within four seasons
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: and then make a decision. So, like just any fatherly
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: advice for your young twenty year old gorgeous daughter, like
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: drop dead. So this weird teeth person is in the
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: den talking to Barry, and Lydia's in the kitchen like
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: cleaning the stove. She's trying to act casual, all right,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: but she's like, got these jeans on her fucking ass
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: is so fucking beautiful girl, her whole body And I'm
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: not a lisp, beautiful, you're a lisp. But like also
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: just like she's growing into her face. She's like she's
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: just her eyes. I mean, she's a she's more than
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: a model. Beautiful, like so fricking gorgeous. And I'm like,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: oh my god, And you're.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Gonna go with this guy because it's twittering quivering toothsome.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Weirdo from Denver talking to your dumb ass, fuck ass
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: dad who's not helping his daughter to make a good
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: life choice. Obviously, think of through send her to university.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: I'll pay for your wedding if you go to college
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: for four years straight up. Oh, I hate everybody.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: He agrees to it. Zach is reluctantly happy about it.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: He goes out back into the kitchen and Liddy's like,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: oh my god, how did it go? And Zach's like,
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: ha ha, well, can you can you tell from my
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: giggling that it went really well? I get to marry you, now,
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: I get to stick my P and your V eventually.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited about it, and he just doesn't seem
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: excited about it to me. I'm sorry. I can't shake it.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: I literally can't shake it. I think this dude is gay.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I just think he's weird.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: I think he's gay.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: I think he's following a script that was given to
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: him by his parents and his church. Yep, he's following
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: a script and he's doing what he thinks he's supposed
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: to do. And they have spoken in this episode here
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: and there about how they've gotten like witnessing responses from
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: the Lord. Yeah, like, well, this is serendipitous, it must
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: be the Lord. So he believes, on some level, some
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Christian level, that this is what he's supposed to do,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: and I feel sad for him. I feel sad for her.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I feel like, can nobody learn I know in this
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: family from like Ethan and Olivia? Can we not learn
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: from Kim and Barry? Well, why aren't we asking questions?
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: And speaking of Ethan, he comes by the house.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, people hate him on the internet. People
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: absolutely loathe Ethis subreddits they're like, well, on Twitter not
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: so much, but on the subreddits they do not like
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: and are calling him a homophobic ye person for saying
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: that he thinks he might be gay.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and we'll have to talk about it.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I keep skipping ahead. I'm just enraged.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Ethang comes by on his motorcycle and he's back in town,
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: and I guess this is the first time he's been
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: back in k since his motorcycle trip that he took,
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: and he did post this on Instagram. Apparently he drove
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: on his motorcycle from Minnesota to Maine, from Maine down
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: to Florida, from Florida back to California, California back to Minnesota.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: He went all across the country and he says he
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: feels like a new.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Maze somewhere along the way he lost all of his stress,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: about which I love, Olivia.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: I love that, yep. I think that's a testament to
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: his character. I think it's interesting that that's how he
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: processes stuff, like how he just has to have like
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: a trip, like a man trip on a motorcycle and
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: just go across the country. He's backled a big old
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: bushy beard, which I don't know how I feel. I
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: don't know how I feel about that.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: I feel good about it.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: You think it's hot, well, in like the pantheon of
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: Ethan's that have existed over the seasons, Like I feel
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: like it's probably his most masculine, sturdy testosterone.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Look, yeah, I liked it.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, but like you know, he's a he's a
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: fundamentally broken.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Person, one hundred person.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: So I thought it was interesting when he comes in
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: the kitchen and he gets a gander at good old Zach.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Well, and this is his first time meeting Zach and
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: he didn't expect to No, he did not know that
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: he was meeting Zach at this point in time, and
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: so it's super fucking awkward, and like Ethan can't hide
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: his emotions at all, and he doesn't know how to
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: like fake it in a conversation. He's just standing their
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: stoic judging the fuck out of Zach. Zach is just
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: a laughing little buffoon, yeah, because he's nervous and socially
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: awkward and like doesn't know how to do this, and
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: he's like so young, he's so naive, and so is Lydia,
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: and she's all giggly and like and you into.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Him Barry, who is very accommodating whatever they're like doing
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: and expressing, Yeah, he wants to make them feel comfortable,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: but like Ethan doesn't care about that. Ethan's no, no,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: what the fuck is happening with? Who are my twenty
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: year old sister? And are you telling me that this
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: is the guy that you're in love with? And so
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: then there's this like awkward conversation that takes place where
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Ethan learns that Zach has proposed and they're going to
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: be getting married, and you can just kind of see
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: him like furtively looking at Zach and like, what's up
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: with this guy? And I think men know men. And
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry if you if you don't, like, if you
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: don't want to hear that, but I think men know
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: men and men can clock men more than women can
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: clock in a different way. Yeah what I'm saying. And
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: so I think, like, I think Ethan is trying to
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: clock this kid, and he's like, something's just not fitting here,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: something's not right. I think it's interesting and maybe a
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: little bit weird that he defaults to this kid is gay.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: I personally think that that's not a very complex, sophisticated way.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Tod of sort of look at this kid. But I mean,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: we're talking about Ethan Plaths and we're talking about the Plaths,
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: and so he's going to say these kid is gay.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Well, and like the way that Ethan says it, because
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Ethan's like, well, I don't know much about him. He
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: seems nice. The only thing that I'm hesitant about is
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: that I think he's gay, and then he giggles about it.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: But I think the way that Ethan is saying it
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: is like from a Southern homophobic undertone. And I want
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: to be very clear to like distinct that I'm not
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: trying to be homophobic and you're not trying to be
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: homophobic when we're talking about Zach. I think Ethan is
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: coming a little bit from that. We'll see how that evolves.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: The only reason why I mentioned that is just that's
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: just the vibe that I got, and it seemed like
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: he was judging Zach a little bit, like he's effeminate,
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: like that's why he's calling him gay.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Definitely, I definitely think he's taking Zach's measure of masculinity
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: and he's finding him wanting. I don't know that it
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: comes from homophobia, and you can come for me for that,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: but I just feel like men do that shit with
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: other men. And I think also when you add in
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: the fact that he's trying to think about his sister, yeah,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: I feel like he's probably looking for the red flags
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: that maybe she can't see. And I think it's fucking legit.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: I think it's valid to wonder if this kid is gay.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he is gay, not saying he's gay.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, if that's my brother and I'm
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: bringing this kid home, and I'm like, oh wait, get
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: at the bood, my brother's gonna be like, um wait
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: a minute.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Well, and that's a thing, like he's the older brother.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: And so he's definitely sussing out a guy that wants
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: to marry his very gorgeous, very impressionable younger sister, and
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: he's like, this is the first time I'm meeting him, Like, okay,
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: kind of weird, but I just I audibly gasped when
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Ethan said that he thinks that Zach was gay.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: I think he's in his era of I don't give
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: a fuck. He does not care, because you know, Olivia
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: has been on her campaign calling out his homophobia, and
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: I think that too is valid, like, and she's been
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: saying a lot of things about it, But I don't
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: think he cares no anymore about what Olivia thinks. I
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: don't think he cares about what any of us thinks.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: Whether it's homophobia, internalized homophobia, whether it's judgment, I don't know.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: But I think Ethan stands in a valid position to
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: be able to judge. And I've also seen online a
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: lot of people calling him a hypocrite, like, who do
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: you think you married when you were eighteen years old
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: and you got to have all of these life experiences
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: from a place of naivete and guilelessness, I can't hypocrite.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: But that's not hypocritical. That's a person who's had a
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: lived experience in a similar construct based on religion, and
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: it didn't fucking work for him.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: He also says that he also literally says that he's like,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: this is moving on really quickly, and it didn't work
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: out for me in Olivia, so I hope that Lydia
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: will be okay.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Like he literally says, nobody has any grace for Ethan,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: and it's usually just people who are one hundred ten
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: toes down standing for Olivia and just can't see the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: humanity in Ethan. So this is like, listen, that was
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: the end?
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: Was that the end of the episode.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: No, we get to to Veronica, because then we flash
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: back over to Veronica in her house, her new house,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: and she's saying something like she needed a breakaway from
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Micah for a second because things are a little tense
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: and she just needs to call a friend. And then
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: we see her phone and she pulls up a contact
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: named Becky.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Which I thought was funny being from the eighties and
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: nineties with Sir Mixala Yeah Becky.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And Becky turns out to be Olivia. Funny, and
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: this is like a hidden contact because Veronica doesn't want
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: the family, especially Micah and Ethan, to know that she
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: is talking to Olivia.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: So you are currently in a full fledged relationship with
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Micah h. Presumably you love him and you want him
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: as a partner, but you are on the down low
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: talking to his ops or you're talking to somebody who
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: is outright antagonistic, not just to Micah but his entire family,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: and you think that's okay. Yeah, like it's it's actually
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: not okay.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: No, it's not okay at all.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: That's not It's like if my brother was married before
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: my sister in law and I'm like, I've got her
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: on speed dial to talk about how fucked up her
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: family is or whatever. Like it's just like, that's just
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: not what you do in a relationship, which makes me question, Veronica,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: like who raised you right? And like who fucking hurt
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: you that you'd be this vindictive and underhanded and fucking sneaky,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: snecky snack to do this to the person that you
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: proclaim to love.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: I think it's a generational thing, but maybe we'll talk
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: about it in the after show, because I've been seeing
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: a lot of people in the younger generations acting like
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: this and acting a fool and relationships and acting a
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: fool and their friendships and thinking that this kind of
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: behavior is somehow enlightened or progressive. It's not. It's toxic,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: it's weird, it's shady. I don't know why you're talking
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: to Olivia and hiding it from everybody else, Like you
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: have her in your phone as Becky, probably because you're
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: texting her all the time talking shit about the plass
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: while she's also talking shit with you. It's crazy to me.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And let me be very clear, like I and
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: you were the we are the first people to say
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: there is so much wrong in this family unit. Like
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: the parent starts with the parents and it probably goes
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: back to their parents, and like there's so much wrong.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: And when we get to Lydia's wedding and we all
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: know now because Veronica divulged it, Like there's a huge
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: fight between Isaac and Micah. There's a lot of booze
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: at the wedding. You've got these Christians, these four square Christians,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: who are drinking to the point that they're getting drunk
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: and being violent. There is so much that is wrong
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: with this family. But the two things can be true
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: at the same time. They can be completely broken and
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: despicable in a lot of ways, but at the same time, Veronica,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: you ain't shit now. I hope she's calling Olivia as
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: her elder and as maybe a voice of reason, and
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: I hope that Olivia can try to speak to her
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: from a place of like, this is what I went through,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: this is what I learned, These are the choices that
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: I made to kind of get myself out of the
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: situation so that I can be in a place of
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: peace right now. Like, I hope she comes at this
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: from that place which is very mature and emotionally intelligent.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: I fear she's gonna be like, oh, yeah, they're fucked.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: A fear she's going to be coming at it from
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: a place of destruction and wanting to hurt people. And
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: that's why you're not being featured anymore, Olivia, because people
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: are moving on from that bullshit and we've got new girls,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: and maybe the Plaths are going to do the same
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: thing to these new girls. I don't know, but like
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I just I hope that Olivia isn't predictable, but I
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: fear that she will be.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: She will be one. And then we get to the
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: rest of the season preview where we have the Plath brothers.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: I think Isaac is there, but I think it's just
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Micah and Ethan like meeting Zach and I think this
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: is that their like dress rehearsal or something for the
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: wedding is what it looks like, and they're meeting him
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: and they're trying to like get a feel for him.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: I think they end up asking him at some point,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: like just the bros like what is it that you
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: feel when you think of Lydia when you see Lydia?
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: And like how like what just tell us how you feel?
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: And Zach is like, oh, confidence, poor Zach. I'm sorry,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: but this is where like Ethan and Micah start going
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: off there like this is bullshit, that's a bullshit answer,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: probably because they're like, I don't know, you're kinda weird.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: Well, but they're also pressuring him, and imagine how intimidated
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: he is.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: I guess, I guess. And then we have Zach saying
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: that Lydia really wants babies, and Lydia is like, but
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: don't you don't you want to stick your PMIV and
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: Zach is crickets and doesn't say anything. I don't know
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: about that. I don't know about that. And then we
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: have Veronica and the family meeting Ethan's girlfriend who is
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: named Teagan, which we've seen photos of on Instagram, but
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: I think Ethan's deleted them.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're together anymore.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: I don't think so either. She also posted on Instagram
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: when one of the trailers came out of TLC, saying
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: that they spelled her name wrong and then they had
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: to like redo the trailer and redo her name. But
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: she hasn't been posting very much either.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: She did post in her story though, because what Veronica
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: says about meeting Teagan is like, we're either going to
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: get on famously or else there's going to be a
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: wormhole where we consume each other. And so Teagan made
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: a story where she had a hole and a snake
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: and she said if you know, you know, or something
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: like that. So I don't think they're going to get along,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: which is shocking. No, it's not because Veronica sucks what I.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: Thought she was so nice. Then we have Kim and
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: Barry talking about their divorce, Oh my god, and Kim
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: says she's dealing with a lot of bitterness because she's
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: going into debt because apparently she's putting all these lawyer
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: fees on her credit cards.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: Can we write this down? So we talk about this
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: in the after show because I'm going to forget it
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: because I'm not going to remember, but like, I have
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: to talk about this because I have feelings about this.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: It's so delicious, it's just all of it is so good.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Well, and Barry says that he feels like he's been
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: ambushed in that conversation. And then we have let's see
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: Micah confronting Veronica about her calling him a spineless worm.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: Well yeah today, yeah, she says, as if it's somehow
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: justified to call your partner that thea never.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Got hit in their face and it shows.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then we have Mariah trying to talk to
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: Veronica in earnest at Lydia's wedding and Veronica sitting up
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: on her high horse saying, well, you're a bitch though
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: basically you lie to me.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: And who are you, Veronica?
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: I know?
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: Or are you showing yourself to be God?
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: And then we have Veronica telling Ethan that she's talking
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: to Olivia about things or whatever, and Ethan says kind
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: of menacingly a little bit, He's like, you don't fucking
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: know this bitch, Like you don't know Olivia the way
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: that I know Olivia, the way the family knows Olivia,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: you don't know her, and Veronica's like, yes, I do.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: Though, throw the whole Veronica away, throw them all away.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we have Olivia sitting down for a
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: couch interview, which I'm just like, why why do we
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: even have to have you on this show?
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: Well, because she brings necessary alternative perspective. Whatever she has
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: made some I think very interesting and I dare say
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: valid claims about how she was treated and what she
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: observed in this family. The family is obviously fucked up,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: Beatriz uh huh, Like they've obviously done a lot of
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: things wrong. She was there for a lot of it. Sure,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: so she's going to bring that perspective.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: If she's coming in with a grudge, she's coming in
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: for destruction, then I feel like we're going to be
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: able to intuit that. Yeah, but like I do think Olivia,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: I personally want to hear what Olivia has.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: To say, Oh, drinking a cool I'm not drinking any
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: cool as she is part of this.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: Show, she's been on for the previous sixths. Yeah, and
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: for the most part, like the show was centered around her.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: I know, I feel like she's a necessary voice. I
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: feel like she's doesn't sorty voice that we need to
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: hear from. I'm sure Gonnat necessarily like it, but I
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: do invite it, sorry about it.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: We'll see what she says, that's for sure. I'll be interested.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: But this season looks girl fucking lit.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: You know they have you when you have a legitimate
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: emotional response to.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: What it is.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, whether it's like so very happy to
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: see Isaac on the tractor, whether it's getting like full
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: of rage because Veronica is being out of pocket af
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: whatever it is like, if you're feeling something, they're doing
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: something right. And I actually wrote you, I texted you,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I wonder if production has changed because
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: last season was so bad because it was focused on
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: Olivia and she bores me and it was terrible. Boyfriend's
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: a bore with her.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: With his vagina ches.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't care. I don't care about
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: you care seriously, so like they're taking a different path.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: But I really liked it.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: I'm really enjoying.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Hopeful for the season.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: Be a draft me too. It looks juicy.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Well, is there anything else that we should say to
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: these rec hoons before we get up on out of
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: here and into the after show, Beatrice.
• 1:10:03
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• 1:10:05
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• 1:10:09
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• 1:10:10
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• 1:10:11
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• 1:10:13
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• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: We will be back next week on Tuesday, picking up
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: Sister Wives in season six. We've got truly getting sick.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: We've got the ladies going to San Francisco trying on
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: beautiful clothes. I'm sorry, Robin Is. There's a lot going on,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: so definitely come back for that. We'll also not be
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: back next week with Plath though, yeah, it'll be the
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: week after that.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: We'll double up.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: Thank you for bearing with us, but until then, please
• 1:10:38
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• 1:10:41
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