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NFL Week 1 - Contrarian Constructions | Main Slate | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Roster Construction · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 2: What is going on, Ship It Nation YouTube station? We
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  Speaker 2: are back with another edition, or the first ever edition,
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  Speaker 2: of the Contrarian Construction Show. It's week one. It's NFL.
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  Speaker 2: We got NFL back. It's my boy Bellman and I.
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  Speaker 2: Normally in those MLB streets, but hey, I'm looking forward
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  Speaker 2: to this brand new show that the nation is bringing
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  Speaker 2: to you. We're going to go position by position to
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  Speaker 2: talk a little bit contrarian ways to get to the leaderboard.
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  Speaker 2: We got $ 5 Millie on FanDuel, $ 5 Millie. amongst other
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  Speaker 2: Millies on DraftKings as well. So what are those, what
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  Speaker 2: are those key pieces that we need? But Matt, it's
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  Speaker 2: NFL season. It's about an hour and a half. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to get through some inactives, but man, how's your
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  Speaker 2: Sunday going? Welcome to NFL season, my friend.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always a fun time. First Sunday of the
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  Speaker 1: NFL season. It feels like a holiday in a way. Um,
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  Speaker 1: fun talking this stuff out, you know, feels like a
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  Speaker 1: lot of unknown. I'm sure it's going to be a
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  Speaker 1: lot of random, uh, Just random surprise, you know, guys
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  Speaker 1: that we're not even going to talk about that are
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  Speaker 1: going to break the slate. And it's just kind of
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  Speaker 1: the fun of the NFL. Excited to talk it out
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  Speaker 1: with you. Excited for this slate. I'm maxing the $ 5
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  Speaker 1: on both sites and I'm playing some lineups in the
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  Speaker 1: other millies on DK. So hoping for a big day
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  Speaker 1: over here. And yeah, side note real quick. Do you
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  Speaker 1: ever play MLB on Sundays or is that a no
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  Speaker 1: for you?
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  Speaker 2: I normally do. I looked at the FanDuel slate today.
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  Speaker 1: I knew you did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And there was nothing on there. The slates are just
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  Speaker 1: so bad now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, it was a lot better.
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  Speaker 1: Like now, especially after like yesterday where nothing filled on DraftKings,
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  Speaker 1: I figured the MLB streets would be pretty silent today.
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  Speaker 1: But we got NFL. Excited to talk about it. How
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  Speaker 1: about you? How's your Sunday going?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Sunday's good. You know, I listened to the boys
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  Speaker 2: this morning. I called a softball game for my daughter
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  Speaker 2: in between that. Now I'm here. I'm going to get
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  Speaker 2: my lineups in. I'm going to talk these shows. I
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  Speaker 2: keep clicking refresh because the inactives just came out normally
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  Speaker 2: 90 minutes before game. Game's tip in 87 minutes now.
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  Speaker 2: Not up yet, which is normal. Should be out here
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  Speaker 2: in a few minutes. We'll get them up sooner rather
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  Speaker 2: than later. Not much to talk about as it relates
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  Speaker 2: to inactives. We'll see what they did with Joey Porter Jr.,
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  Speaker 2: We'll see what they did with Alvin Kamara, both unlikely
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  Speaker 2: to play. But outside of that, no major news that
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  Speaker 2: I know of. Jeremiah Love expected to play in the
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  Speaker 2: afternoon slate. Hey, as you're coming in, make sure you
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  Speaker 2: It's a free show like each and every show are
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  Speaker 2: here at Ship It Nation. And then, hey, tonight my
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  Speaker 2: guy Nades and I coming back doing a little Sunday
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  Speaker 2: night football show slash sweat show as well. Hopefully we
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  Speaker 2: got some sweat or some of those millies that you
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  Speaker 2: talked about, Matt. Hopefully we're sweating those down. To the
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  Speaker 2: final horn, also talking some Sunday night football where Malik
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  Speaker 2: Neighbors is also– I don't know. We don't know what
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  Speaker 2: he's going to get out of him yet. All right,
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  Speaker 2: so let's go position by position, Matt. A little bit
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  Speaker 2: different than the main show this morning, but I got
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  Speaker 2: the Stone 2.0 pulled up here. I got it slated
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  Speaker 2: over on DraftKings. Talk to me a little bit about
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  Speaker 2: some of your favorite quarterbacks in this DraftKings lot tonight.
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  Speaker 2: I got it sorted by DraftKings.com. projection right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so kind of as I talked about with the lead-in,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of good plays at quarterback, certainly. I
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  Speaker 1: think the interesting thing is starting up top, like how
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  Speaker 1: well-owned Josh Allen is going to be. This is a
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  Speaker 1: contrarian show, so I'd be remiss not to at least
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  Speaker 1: mention him. Brutal spot to open the season, but man,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's going to be like 1%, 2% owned,
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  Speaker 1: lower than 5% at least, and that's interesting at least
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  Speaker 1: to think about in large GPPs. But on paper, someone
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  Speaker 1: like Joe Burrow looks a lot better. He's got all
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  Speaker 1: his weapons. He's healthy. I like that game for offense. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think up top, Burrow is going to be the
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  Speaker 1: guy that gets more ownership. I think Allen is just
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  Speaker 1: like a large field GPP guy. Do you yourself have
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  Speaker 1: any interest in Allen?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think you got to have interest in Allen.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to get there, too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's the highest priced quarterback for sure over there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Allen, though, the problem with Allen and they
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  Speaker 2: said this morning, I'll reiterate it. You never know who
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  Speaker 2: to stack with him.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So if you get Allen and he gets 40, like
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  Speaker 2: you could you could stack him with two of his
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  Speaker 2: players and they may not get 10 combined. And then
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  Speaker 2: you're not dead. I mean, you're dead to win the Millie, but,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you're not you make men cash or something
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  Speaker 2: like that. Allen obviously is a great play in something
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  Speaker 2: like this. I wouldn't be opposed to going naked with
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  Speaker 2: him though.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say that just to intervene. I'd be surprised
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  Speaker 1: if he has a monster game like that and DJ
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  Speaker 1: Moore doesn't have at least a good game. Like he
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  Speaker 1: hasn't had that guy and not that like DJ Moore
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  Speaker 1: is Jamar Chase, but heard real good things about him
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  Speaker 1: in camp. I think he's the clear number one. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I agree with that coming into
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  Speaker 1: this year.
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  Speaker 2: Clear number one, but you also have a clear top,
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  Speaker 2: I'd say, three cornerback on the other side. And then
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  Speaker 2: the Lassiter as well on the other side of that
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  Speaker 2: defense as well. Hey, this defense is lights out. And
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  Speaker 2: that's why you're going to get them at, what, definitely
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  Speaker 2: sub 5% on both sites. But, yeah, definitely in play tournament.
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  Speaker 2: Who are some other kind of sleepers that you're looking at?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you've got Herbert, Burrow, Hertz up there.
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  Speaker 2: I think Hertz is going to come in lower owned,
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  Speaker 2: way under owned. But, once again, he's like Allen to
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  Speaker 2: me in the sense that, who are you going to
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  Speaker 2: stack them with? You got a clear cut number one
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  Speaker 2: now with Devante, but can you just go skinny with
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  Speaker 2: him and Devante? Can you get Barkley? How are you
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  Speaker 2: playing Jalen hurts today?
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  Speaker 1: I'm not playing a lot of hurts. I like Devante
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  Speaker 1: Smith a lot. I mean, what's not to like about him.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's way too cheap for what should be
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  Speaker 1: a monster role this year. I don't love this game though.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not a huge hurts guy. So I'll get
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  Speaker 1: to summon one 50, but other than that, like, If
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  Speaker 1: I'm hand-building lineups, I'm not playing any Hurts. Not that
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  Speaker 1: I think he's a bad play. You know, you can
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  Speaker 1: only play so many guys. There's a lot of good
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  Speaker 1: plays on this slate. Is he someone you have a
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  Speaker 1: strong stance on?
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  Speaker 2: No, not Hurts. I think the rushing is there, right?
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  Speaker 2: But if I'm stacking Hurts, I'm cutting it off at
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  Speaker 2: Devontae and possibly Goddard. I'm not stacking him with Barkley.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not stacking him with some guy named Dontavian Wicks.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not stacking him with Mekhi Lemon. anybody like that. It's, it's,
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  Speaker 2: it's Smith for sure. And potentially God, or if I,
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  Speaker 2: if I got there, that makes sense. Talk to me
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  Speaker 2: a little bit about, I know we're going to have
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  Speaker 2: a difference of opinion here. I'm going to give you
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  Speaker 2: a ham hot take here in a minute, but Lamar
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  Speaker 2: Jackson going into the Colts, he's, he's, he's not going
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  Speaker 2: to get much ownership at all. We're showing, we're showing
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  Speaker 2: right around five and a half percent. So talk to
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  Speaker 2: me about Lamar Jackson and how you're playing him today
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  Speaker 2: against this Colts defense.
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  Speaker 1: Another guy that I don't love, but because you despise
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  Speaker 1: him so much, it makes it seem like I like him.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just not going out of my way
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  Speaker 1: to tell people don't play Lamar Jackson or Derrick Henry
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  Speaker 1: this week. That doesn't mean that I like those guys.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't have it in my soul to that
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  Speaker 1: kind of spite to just want them to not do
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  Speaker 1: good for no reason at all. I'm all kidding aside.
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  Speaker 1: I don't mind those guys like this game, I think
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  Speaker 1: could play out in a lot of different ways. Certainly
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  Speaker 1: I like the Colts offense here. So that in turn
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  Speaker 1: makes me like some pieces from Baltimore, but there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of opportunity costs going with Lamar. I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to sit here and say he's my favorite quarterback, but
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  Speaker 1: what about that offense makes you dislike it so much?
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  Speaker 2: Man, I think the, I think the Ravens offense, once again,
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  Speaker 2: I could be, I could be pointing wrong. I need
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  Speaker 2: to look and see how much I have because it's
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  Speaker 2: not much, but I think the Ravens offense is way
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  Speaker 2: over inflated today. Not that they're going to get tons
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  Speaker 2: of ownership. You got three brand new offensive linemen for
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  Speaker 2: this Ravens team, right up the interior, DeForest Bunkner, this Colts,
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  Speaker 2: this Colts defense is pretty good. And you got two
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  Speaker 2: really good corners. Like if Chavarrius Ward wants to play
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  Speaker 2: and it looks like he wants to play the first
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  Speaker 2: game of the season anyway, you know, he's been pretty
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  Speaker 2: good in the past. Sauce Gardner. I think, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think he's, I don't, I never thought sauce was, that great,
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  Speaker 2: but you got sauce. Gardner is pretty good corner on
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  Speaker 2: the other side as well. I'm out on Lamar Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: I'm out on Derek Henry. I know we're not the
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  Speaker 2: running backs yet. There is. I mean, I'll just go
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  Speaker 2: ahead and say it. Zay flowers would be the one
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  Speaker 2: Raven that I have a little bit of interest in.
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  Speaker 2: I think he can get in some space over there.
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  Speaker 2: Colts Lou and a room. Oh, like what about Jacoby lane? No,
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  Speaker 2: hell no. I wouldn't play Jacoby lane with your money.
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  Speaker 2: Don't play Jacoby lane. Why?
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  Speaker 1: It's not like he's going to be owned. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand your takes here. Like, That strong.
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  Speaker 2: There won't be a Raven on the winner in the Millie.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I could be wrong. Once again, I'm just
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  Speaker 2: telling you my opinion, my take of it, is this
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  Speaker 2: Ravens team is going into a buzzsaw today. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to have some dollars on the Colts, you know, to
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  Speaker 2: win the game.
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  Speaker 1: So what about this then? What about overloading the Colts
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  Speaker 1: in that? playing Baltimore? Cause I think the Colts are
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  Speaker 1: in a good spot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I got, I got a bunch of JT. I don't,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't have much, any dimes, but
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  Speaker 2: I got a bunch of JT, a little bit of Warren.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like the receivers for the Colts. So for
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  Speaker 2: me on the Colts, it's JT and it's Warren, but,
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  Speaker 2: We're not there yet. I think the Ravens are in
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  Speaker 2: a bad spot. That's just one of my many takes
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  Speaker 2: I got today. I got a bunch of the Colts defense,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm out on the Ravens outside of Zay Flowers.
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  Speaker 1: I get it. I mean, you can only play so
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  Speaker 1: many guys, so it's like any given team, I'm most
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  Speaker 1: likely not to be in on them because, again, there's
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  Speaker 1: so many teams in play. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Not to mention they got a brand-new head coach and
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  Speaker 2: some guy named Declan calling their offensive plays. You don't
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  Speaker 2: ever trust a guy named Declan to call your plays
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL. Matt, this is going to be a bloodbath.
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  Speaker 2: Take some of all that money you went in from
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  Speaker 2: the MLB streets. Get on the Colts with me, man.
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  Speaker 2: Get on the Colts bandwagon with me. It's not going
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  Speaker 2: to be pretty for Lamar and company.
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  Speaker 1: I respect it. I like the hard takes.
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  Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Any other quarterbacks that you
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  Speaker 2: could potentially see in shooting up the leaderboard at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the day? I saw some Geno Smith chatter.
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  Speaker 2: I got a name for you. Okay, let's go.
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  Speaker 1: It's not Geno Smith. It's not a guy I expect to, like,
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  Speaker 1: win the slate based on his score alone. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure you're going to laugh at me here. But I
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  Speaker 1: don't care. Why not Kirk Cousins? I like this spot
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  Speaker 1: a lot. Jenty, I don't think is fully healthy. They
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  Speaker 1: just came out a couple days ago. He was going
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  Speaker 1: to play. I've talked a bunch about how I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he's fully healthy. I like Mike Washington. He was
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  Speaker 1: a sleeper I've liked in year-long leagues. Everyone wants to
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  Speaker 1: play Michael Meyer, Michael Meyer for good reason and Trey Tucker.
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  Speaker 1: And I like those guys a lot. Why not play
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  Speaker 1: five K cousins with them? Are you going to be
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  Speaker 1: shocked if he throws three touchdowns here? Like he's not
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  Speaker 1: going to run for anything. He's probably not going to
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  Speaker 1: throw for 400 yards, but two 50 and three against
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  Speaker 1: Miami at five K sign me up. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you, you know me well, uh, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: going to play.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course you're not.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want any cousins, to be honest.
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  Speaker 1: No one is. Yeah. I mean, I could say a
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  Speaker 1: name that's even darker than cousins.
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  Speaker 2: And the reason why I don't. For Malik Willis, for
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  Speaker 2: that matter, because I think that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but.
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  Speaker 2: They're just going to turn around and hand it to
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  Speaker 2: the running back. I don't care if it's Ashton Gentry.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care if it's Mike Washington. I don't care
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  Speaker 2: if it's.
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  Speaker 1: Who it is.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to turn around and hand it to the
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  Speaker 2: running back. Same thing with the Dolphins. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: ground and pound. You know, Hoops said it this morning
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  Speaker 2: or somebody said it this morning. That clock is just
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  Speaker 2: going to bleed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it could like. But, like, again,
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  Speaker 1: I don't expect him to throw for 400 yards. If
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  Speaker 1: they're running successfully, that opens things up. Like, this is
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  Speaker 1: a new staff. I mean, they're trying to win this game.
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  Speaker 1: They're starting Cousins for a reason at the beginning of
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  Speaker 1: the year.
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  Speaker 2: Of course.
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  Speaker 1: Again, I'm not– it's a price thing. You know, he's
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  Speaker 1: so cheap. It's an ownership thing. And it's the fact
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  Speaker 1: that people are playing his weapons and they're not playing him.
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  Speaker 1: That's the big thing. Like, I don't know. I just–
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  Speaker 1: I'm probably wrong. Any other quarterbacks?
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  Speaker 2: Who's the other quarterback you were going to mention? Who's
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  Speaker 2: the other quarterback you were going to mention?
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  Speaker 1: I think the other guy, well, there's a bunch more,
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  Speaker 1: but I think Baker Mayfield looks good opposite Burrow in
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  Speaker 1: that Tampa Cincy game. I don't think he's going to
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  Speaker 1: get a ton of love, and I like him. I
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  Speaker 1: think Tyler Shook opposite gibbs in that game although he'll
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  Speaker 1: probably get some love and i like the minnesota game
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  Speaker 1: so both quarterbacks there how about you what's your takes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah i mean um to me it's it's the big
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  Speaker 2: boys right like tyler shuck i love him lions missing
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  Speaker 2: two safeties we'll get to the receivers and tight ends
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  Speaker 2: here in a minute but shucks in a great spot
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  Speaker 2: Seven-point favorite– or seven-point dog. He's in a great spot.
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  Speaker 2: I got a bunch of Tyler Shuck. Obviously, they got
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  Speaker 2: off Joey B. Just the usuals. I don't have any
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  Speaker 2: hot takes on Hoot and Rodgers, Jacoby Brissett, Bryce Young.
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  Speaker 2: I'll leave Bryce Young to you. Dimes, Cam Ward. No,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not playing any of those people. The one guy
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  Speaker 2: I would say, and I wrote him up over at Shippenation.com,
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  Speaker 2: is Geno Smith. And I'll tell you the reason why
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  Speaker 2: I like Geno Smith, and this is for Millie-type plays only,
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  Speaker 2: is that the Titans defense, especially on FanDuel, the $ 3, 200
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  Speaker 2: is going to be right around 25%, 30%. Middle linebacker's
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  Speaker 2: out getting in wrecks, being concussed. He's out. I think
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  Speaker 2: Geno Smith with Garrett Wilson, with dump-offs to Breece Hall,
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  Speaker 2: with Adonai Mitchell coming back home to Nashville. Watch out
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  Speaker 2: for that Jets passing attack. Someone put it in the chat.
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  Speaker 2: I don't hate it in a– Large field style format.
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  Speaker 2: Give me some Geno Smith to get over 300.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. One of us is cutting in and
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  Speaker 1: out really bad here. I don't know. One of us
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  Speaker 1: is cutting out in and out really bad here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know who it is. Let's fix that.
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  Speaker 2: One second. All right, let's move on. Unless you have
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  Speaker 2: any running back, you got anything else on quarterback?
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  Speaker 1: No, I think that's good.
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  Speaker 2: All right, moving on to the next position. It's the
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  Speaker 2: running back position. Talk to me a little bit about
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  Speaker 2: this running back, Jameer Gibbs. Jameer Gibbs is going to
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  Speaker 2: come in super high on. You see it there over 40%.
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  Speaker 2: Ah-Chain Taylor, Bajon Robinson could be an interesting take. James Cook.
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  Speaker 2: Talk to me a little bit about this position. We
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  Speaker 2: got all the big boy running backs on the slate almost.
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  Speaker 2: CMC played the other night, but interested to get your take,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: give me some takes on this running back position, who
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: you got at the top of your list and give
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: me some guys that you're going to get you to
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: the top of the milliliter board.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I think the top of the list has
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: got to be obviously Gibbs. I mean, he looks great.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: It's not about just fading someone because they're high owned.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: It's about how you play them. So Gibbs is a
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: priority play in all formats. He's like, you know, 1500,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: probably too cheap. Doesn't mean he's going to smash it,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: but he's in a good spot, you know, Their main
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: backups hurt. He's already phenomenal. Like he's, it's hard not
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: to love Gibbs here. I also like Bijan and I
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: don't think Bijan. Well, I know Bijan won't be half
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: as old as Gibbs, but I wonder how low Bijan
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: gets because people love the Steelers in this game. I'm just,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not a believer in the Steelers. I don't think
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: McCarthy is a great coach. Their defense is old. I
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: know Atlanta has quarterback problems here, but they got Bijan
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: and they got weapons. And Bijan is a big play
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: waiting to happen. I've read this book too many times
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: before where Bijan is so low owned and he has
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: a monster game because he's really good or vice versa.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: But I'm going to play the contrarian side here and
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: play both Gibbs and Bijan. And I like A-Chan a
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: lot too. I mean, this game, I think, has a
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: ton of fantasy upside. He's too cheap. Their offense isn't good,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: but neither is their defense. And A-Chain is an elite
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: receiving weapon out of the backfield, so I think he
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: can get there just on passing game work alone. Those
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: are my big three. I like Taylor. If you wanted
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: to replace Bijan, I would get it. But for me,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I think that's the clear big three, and then there's
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: a drop-off.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Who do you got higher, Bijan or A-Chain?
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: A-Chain. Give me A-Chain over Bijan.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: All right. Outside of the big three. So, and you
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: have Bijan ahead of JT.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, I do. But that's, I think that's very close.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: We're showing, we're showing Bijan at 15%. I think he
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: actually comes in a little bit lower than that, but
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: let's just say in the $ 5, like how, how, how
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: much Bijan, like how much Bijan do you want versus
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: the field?
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Um, In that type of contest, I think I want
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: to be maybe a time and a half over the
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: field on him. There's a lot of good plays, and
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I'm more thinking about playing him in higher stakes stuff
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: than I am that particular question. Got it.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: What about some of these lower tier, second tier, if
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: you will? Derrick Henry, please do not click his name, Bellman.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Save your $ 6, 700 on DeHinn and find you somebody else.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: But who are some of these– I'll call them second-tier
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: running backs. Where are you going?
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Whenever you do this, you know it makes me want
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: to play whoever it is you're talking bad about. So, yeah,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I don't love Henry.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Man, Derrick Henry's– I'm just telling you, Derrick Henry's not
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: a good play today.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this range is good, though. Like, I don't love
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Jenty because I don't think he's really healthy. but he's
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: cheap for his upside in a game I like. Saquon
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: looks good. Omari and Hampton looks real good in a
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: game the Chargers should be cruising. You know, Chase Brown
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: in that really good environment. This is a good range.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: You talked about Brees Hall earlier. I think he's an
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: interesting play, a I don't have like one guy in
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: this range that I like above the rest, except for HN.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: That's my guy here. Who's somehow in this range, even
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: though there's no way he should be. That's kind of
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: why I like him. You know what I mean? Yeah.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, HN seven case too cheap for him, even
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: though they do.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: He's going to get the ball. Their offensive line is
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: actually pretty good. And they first round draft pick on
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: an offensive lineman. This Raiders team, I mean, it's been
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: bad for years, right? Max Crosby, um, and companies should
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: get ran on. Yeah. I mean, a chance is going
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: to get 20 plus, you know, 20 plus carries for sure.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: So he's a great spot.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Uh, why don't you let, let me ask you this.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Why don't you like Gentee at 6,600? I like him.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: If you think he's fully healthy, I don't. And I
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: think Washington is going to work in there. And I
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: think they're going to throw more than you do.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I like him. I think he's too cheap for his upside,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: but I don't like him more than the field does.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Cause I think there are reasons to not like him.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, let's talk a little bit about, let's talk a
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: little bit about Bucky Irvin. Looking at these inactives that
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: we just got, Sean Tucker is officially listed out. So
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: you're down to probably two running backs. So you got
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Bucky Irvin, who's going to come in at solo owned $ 5, 700.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Does that, I mean, does Sean Tucker, obviously last year
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: got the goal on work. I think he had what?
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: nine plus touchdown rushes or something like that, or, and,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: and got all the inside of the 10 work. Bucky Irvin, $ 5, 700.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Does he shoot up your board at all with Sean
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Tucker out or that doesn't move the needle for you?
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's hard not to like him more
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: because of the goal line potential work, but I don't know. Um,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Gainwell is still there. So like, I think that he
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: gets a lot of work today. Um, Am I off?
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not, like, loving Bucky Irving because I've heard him
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: mention him a few times. And I'm generally a Bucky fan,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: and I like this game, but I don't think he's
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: some smash play now, do you?
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: He's 7,900 over on FanDuel, so he's a little bit
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: more expensive over there. I think you've got to have
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: a little bit of him. I like the Bengals' defense. But, yeah,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you're going to have a shootout in Cincinnati,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think Bucky's squarely in play. He
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: can obviously catch it. His Oregon Ducks stink, but other
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: than that, I think he's in a good spot. What's
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: the split going to be? Surely, to goodness, he's going
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: to get at least 60%, 65%, 70% of the work.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Some guy named Kenneth Gainwell on his fifth team, they're
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: not going to feature him, are they?
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think they'll feature him, but he's good. I
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: think he gets work today. Do you not?
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: He's so good, he's been on five teams.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's not like a number one running back,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: but he's a guy that works in the systems. And, yeah,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, you could look at that both ways, though. Like, yeah,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: he's been on five teams. He's so good. Like, you're
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: making that sound awful, and I get that. But you
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: could also say, like, five teams have wanted him. You
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying?
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. All right, next, let's look at– where is he?
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: I don't even see him in here. Travis Etienne. So, officially,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara is out. ETN is the clear lead back there.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Shouldn't be splitting carries with, with obviously not gonna split
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: him with Camara, not going to get much else from
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: backup behind him. He can also catch passes as we
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: saw in Jacksonville, his first game with his hometown team.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I know it's in Detroit, but what about Travis ATM
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: with no Alvin Camara?
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's definitely in play here. I mean,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: the no Camara thing looms large here. I like this game.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: And I think he can get there in any type
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: of game script, which is all you can really ask for. Yeah,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I think they're going to get him the ball quite
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: a bit today. I like Olave a lot. But after that,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I think it's all about like the three. I know
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: there's like Vele and Lance, you know, on like the border.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: But the top three is obviously Shook, Etienne, and Olave. Okay.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: So what about ETN versus Swift versus Bucky Irvin, all
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: within $ 200 of each other, give or take?
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I like ETN the most kind of by far.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about Swift because neither one of
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: us mentioned him. I love DeAndre Swift coming into the season.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: They have a killer offensive line, very good. He's coming
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: in at what percent? He's coming in at right around 10%.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I think he'll be a little bit higher. On Fandle,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: why are we not clicking DeAndre Swift's name?
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Because you can click Trevor Etienne's name, Travis.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: For $ 200 less?
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Any other running backs that we haven't touched on that
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: you want to talk about?
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm going to not even be a homer,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: but a guy I mentioned earlier that I think is
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: going to be really low owned and I think has
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: potential upside is Quinshawn Judkins. Like the Browns have a
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: really low team total and they're expected to get plastered here.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: And I get that. And that's probably the likely outcome,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: but there's so much unknown coming into the season. And
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: what if that's not how the game plays out? I
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: think the Browns defense is still going to be really good.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: They're dirt cheap and Judkins, they're going to feature Judkins
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: and Concepcion. Like they're going to get those guys the ball,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Judkins is going to be a true, like, lead back
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: without anyone else really working in, in my opinion. You
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: get him on the right side of a game script
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: at 5,500 at, like, 1% ownership. Yeah, I mean, we're
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: talking about real contrarian plays. Would I play him in
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: single entry or, like, a cash game? Obviously not. But, yeah,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I think there's, like, multiple touchdown upside at a real
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: cheap tag and no ownership. So that's the, like, low-owned
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: guy I'm going to call out.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: So at 5,500 and 150 teams, like how much Junkins
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: do you want? How many of Quinshawn Junkins shares do
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: you want?
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: At least 5%.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: At least 5%, yeah. Nothing crazy. I feel that way
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: about Chuba Hubbard myself. Same price, right? And he's 5,800
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: on FanDuel. I mean, he had– I think he had
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: like 17 touches in their last game against the Rams
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: That was with Rico Dowdle. Now you've got Jonathan Brooks.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I just think this is Canales' guy as well. At $ 5, 500
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: and $ 5, 800, he's cheap. He's a way to get a
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: piece of that game. Like if you wanted to stack
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Colston Loveland with Chuba, I think that's a great play.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: I know Chuba's won our guy Tambo a bunch of
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: money in the past. Give me some Chuba Hubbard, $ 5, 500, $ 5, 800.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I like him on both sites. More so on FanDuel
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: as he's not– he can catch passes, but he's not
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: a true pass catcher. His Oklahoma State Sooners got a
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: dub yesterday, so you know his juices are flowing.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: So, yeah.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: What about Jeremiah Love? I'm out on Jeremiah Love. Interested
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: to get your take on him, if you like him
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: at all. I'm out.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Big dog. I don't think he sees a ton of work. Like,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: he's really good, and maybe everyone's surprised, and he just
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: has a monster game, but I'm good.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Let's go over to FanDuel for a second, where it's
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: going to be a little bit different. I'm going to
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: go over here to the– I'm going to go over
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: here to the ownership projection because what I want to
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: talk about is I want to talk about.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: $ 4, 900.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Marshawn Lloyd, who is going to hit a lot of
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: optimals because he is the RB one for this game,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: tough matchup in Minnesota. Let me find him real quick,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: but I'm going to, I'll pull them up as you're
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: talking about and talk to me a little bit about
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Marshawn Lloyd. If you have any interest on draft Kings
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: and then what your interest is on FanDuel.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I do have some interest on draft Kings. I think
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of unknown there. I like this game.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I think there's points in this game. So the, That
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: alone makes me interested in what should be the number
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: one running back for the pack. Again, I don't think
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: he's some stud, but I like the Packers this year.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: They consolidated their wideout room. I'm huge on Matthew Golden.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: So I like this offense. And Lloyd being the number
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: one de facto RB right now has me interested. I'm
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: not going to be shocked if one of the other
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: guys comes in and just steals all the work because
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: it's not like Lloyd's a proven commodity. But we're talking
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: large field tournaments here. So, yeah, I have some interest.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Definitely on FanDuel and on DraftKings.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Taking Jameer Gibbs out, give me your top three running
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: backs for large field tournaments.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Taking Gibbs out, you said? Yep.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: So A-Chan for sure. He might be the most underpriced
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: player on the board, in my opinion. So A-Chan, I
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: like E-Chan a lot. And I like Bijan, man. Like
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Bijan priced right by Gibbs. um spot isn't nearly as
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: good but yeah give me bijan there.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: You're right though man every time we count bijan out
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: he just goes for like 192 and three you know
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: what i mean like just something crazy like that.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I get it the spot stinks i not a Stefanski fan,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: but he's going to get Bijan the ball here. I
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: know that.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: All Stefanski does is win in a Heinz field when
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: they're in the playoffs with all my boy Baker. So yeah.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Anything else on running backs or can we get over
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: to wide receivers?
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I think we can get over.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Okay. Let's go to, let's get over there now. Similar
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: to the running back position, we got Jamar Chase. That's
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: going to lead the way over at the wide receiver position.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Amon Ross St. Brown is going to be right behind him. $ 7, 800
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: for Jamar Chase, $ 7, 500 for Amon Ross, $ 7, 500 for Amon
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Ross St. Brown. So talk to me a little bit
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: about this group. Wide receivers, you know, let's talk top
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: tier first. Who are your top tier wide receivers?
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think obviously Chase is, you know, probably a
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: class of his own. Like, I don't think he's a
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: must-play because of the guys that are in other positions. Gibbs, Bijan,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: who I like, but Chase is a tough fade, a
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: fade at your own risk for sure. Amon Rot in
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: the game we like a lot. And then Justin Jefferson.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: You know, I think there's, I don't really separate, like,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I think it's Chase is in his own tier slightly above, like,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: the next tier. But the next tier for me is
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: a group of, like, Five guys, though. The next tier
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: for me after Chase is Amon Ra, Jefferson, Nico, Devontae Smith,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: and Olave. All those guys are in the same tier
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: for me. If you want to say Amon Ra is
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: in a tier above those other guys, sure.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Who do you think scores more points today? The Bengals
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: and Bucs or the Lions and Saints?
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Bengals and Bucs.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Combined. Oh, really? Gosh, hopefully one of us wins the
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Millie because we're way off with each other. I think
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: this Lions-Saints game just shoots out. I think the defense
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: is in that Bengals-Bucks game. They obviously got some really
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: good offenses, but the defenses are much better.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I'm not too heavy on either.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: The Saints defense is trash.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: You just asked me which game I like more.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: You didn't ask me if I was super high on
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: the Bucks.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: No, I said which game you think would score more points.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the Bucks-Bengals.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I said which game you think would score more points.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I know, and I said the Bucks-Bengals game, but that
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that that's like my favorite game on the slate.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I just don't love the St.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Lyons game either. I like Gibbs. I like Olave. But
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I think like for me, I get why you feel
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: that way, but I think that that's kind of the
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: chalk take on the slate is that game is going
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: to smash. Am I wrong?
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, probably the total is 50-51. I mean, yeah,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: but I mean, you got to play it different ways, right?
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: You over stack it. You get different dudes. You play–
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Jawan and Amon Ra instead of Jameer Gibbs. I mean,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I just think the defenses, it's indoors, although the weather's
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: good in Cincinnati as well. I mean, I'm just saying
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: both of these defenses are bad. Tyler Shuck is going
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: to chuck. And Jared Goff has never met a pass
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: he didn't like either. So I think it's going to
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: be points of plenty. That's why they play the game. But,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's my stance. That's where I'm kind of
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: leading down today as well, is just over stacking this
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Lions and Saints game as well.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: You got that top, Jared.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I'll say this just to answer that question. Maybe, you know,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: thinking back on it, but just to my point that, like,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I don't love either game. I'm playing one lineup in
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: that Mega Million. I have Gibbs and Olave from this game,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: the Lions game. I have nothing from the Bengals game.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: So take with that what you will. Yeah.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: We just went through running back. I didn't say this.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Who's the best running back at 6,800 bucks? I'll go
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: back over there. I'm assuming that's DraftKings. I mean, I
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: don't want to answer for Bellman, but go ahead. I'll
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: say find $ 200 more and get the odd chain.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I agree, but if you can't, Hampton.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Hampton, yeah. All right, let's get back over to receivers.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: You talk about that top tier. You listed Chris Olave
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: below Nico, below Devontae. So is that how you would
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: kind of rank him? Like you have him down there
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: at the– I would say at the bottom end of
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: that tier?
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Who is that?
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Chris Olave.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I like Olave a lot. I think he's in that
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: second tier after Chase. I mean, he's a stud. There's
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: so much– he's too cheap. I like him. He's a
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: cog in the machine type.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Let's talk that Higgins gets, I think he's going to
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: get some ownership. We currently have him at all. These
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: guys are right in the teens. Uh, at least double digits,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: T lad, Garrett Wilson, Zay flowers, Ted Parker, Washington. I'll
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: cut it off there. Any, any of those guys stand
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: out for you?
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: I think all those guys look good here. I mean,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: the mid range wide out is a really, really good range.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: It's loaded. I mean, you talk about guys like Jamison
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Williams and that game you like a lot. Egbuka in
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the Cincy game, Higgins, who you mentioned. I think we're
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: past the days of, like, sneaking up on anyone playing
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Higgins instead of Chase personally. Like, they're both going to
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: get love. But Chase will be higher owned, and he's
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: more expensive. So that in itself has you a little
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: intrigued with Higgins. You can certainly play them both in
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: a burrow stack. I mean, there's just a lot of
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: good plays here. I like Matthew Golden, who's a little
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: bit cheaper. A lot of good plays here.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: We're going to get down to the bad Packers wide
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: receivers here in a minute. What about– I did want
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: to ask you this. Joey, initially inactives, which is big-time news.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Drake London, who is just an absolute beast, $ 6, 500, but
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: he's got some guy named Cooper Rush throwing him the ball.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Last time we saw Cooper, he was leading the Ravens
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: offense not very well. But I love Drake London in general.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Talk to me a little bit about him and especially
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: large field tournaments. He's definitely going to be contrarian. I
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: don't think he gets anywhere near 5% ownership, but talk
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: to me a little bit about Drake London with no
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Joey Porter Jr.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I'm on team Bijan. So I'm off London, but if
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I get it, like he's also going to be really
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: low owned and he's good. He relies more on a
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: quarterback than Bijan does. So that's why I like Bijan more,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: but London's cheaper and we'll be even lower owned. So yeah,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: interesting call right there. I talked about how I think
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Atlanta is live in this game to win. So, Oh, wow.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Well, I hope you're wrong. One of my thousand dollar
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: circuit tickets is on, is on Pittsburgh. Matt. All right.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: A Mecca, a Buka coming back home to his home state.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Shout out to all my Ohio state fans last night.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get down to this, this I'll call
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: it this last year. And then maybe it's a value tier,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: but you got QJ Quentin Johnston, who I feel like
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: is getting some love. I'll lump all those Packers receivers
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: in there. Christian Watson's going to be the best of
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: the bunch. Um, uh, uh, Jaden Reed as well, Matthew Golden. Um,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: and then DK Metcalf, Aaron Rogers has talked a little
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: bit about getting him the ball more this year. And
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: then Michael Wilson talked to me about this little group
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: that we'll get into some value guys.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I like Matthew Golden the most here. Um, just
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: really nice tag. So he's someone I'm high on. Uh,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of this range is like who
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: you're playing at quarterback, you know, obviously stacking partners make sense. Um,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Wandale Robinson, I've talked to him offseason. Yeah, how I
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: like Tennessee. I think he's intriguing. Then the other Browns
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: guy who I think is just going to get fed
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: the rock. I'm sure you've seen him a bunch. Casey Concepcion.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: This guy can just make plays. Again, even the Cleveland,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: the guys who cover the Browns, who I'm friendly with
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: a couple of those guys, they don't talk good about
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: the Browns because there's nothing to talk good about. They
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: hate the Browns. Everyone around here, it's like a necessary evil.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: We're obviously Browns fans, but we hate ownership. There's nothing
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: good to say about them. But Concepcion and Boston, mostly
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Concepcion had awesome camps, and I think they're going to
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: step in right away and command a real big target
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: share in this offense. So if Watson can be competent,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: he's a big ask, and he might not be able
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: to be. I think Concepcion is a real interesting play
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: at like 4,600, no ownership. Again, it just plays into
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: how much unknown there is. You know what I mean?
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. What's not unknown is Wondell Robinson with Brian Dable.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: And Brian Dable got Wondell Robinson a bunch of money
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: in the offseason, got him to Tennessee. Now he's coaching
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: him again.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: He's got a.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Quarterback that he's going to scheme up ways to get
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Wondell Dinks and Ducks up and down the field. So
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: give me some Wondell Robinson. I love his price tag
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: on both DraftKings. and especially on FanDuel at 5,300. He
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: is more of a DraftKings type guy where he's going
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: to catch, you know, nine for 99 and a touchdown,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: hopefully something like Wandel. I like your call about Concepcion.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: He's a baller as well, but there is a lot
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: of unknown. And then that brings me to Trey Tucker.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: You talked about earlier, $ 4, 000 for Trey Tucker, dirt cheap
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: price on DraftKings, 5,600 on FanDuel as well, a little
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: bit higher, but talk to me a little bit about
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Trey Tucker. You talked in the beginning about Kirk Cousin's,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: So I'm assuming you like Trey Tucker to go with
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Michael May and just talk a little bit about Trey Tucker.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's a stud. I like him a lot.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I think him and Mayer eat up a ton of
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: the target share left behind by Bowers. So, yeah, I mean,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: on Tucker he's way too cheap I mean him and
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Mayer and A-chan are the three like biggest value plays
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: at least for my money on this slate so yeah
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I like him a lot I mean again there's so
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: much unknown maybe the offense stinks you're relying on Kirk
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Cousins like I'm not going to be shocked if a
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: lineup without Tucker wins it but I think he's a
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: thousand too cheap for this spot Got it.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about, I want to talk
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: about three different teams. We'll cover them. Let's talk about
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Arizona's receivers. You got Mazda Marv. You have Michael Wilson, right?
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Two guys that should see a lot of the, you know,
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: a lot of the targets out in the tight end
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: as well. So talk to me, any of the Michael
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Wilson and or Mazda Marv, you like them as a one-off,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: you have to have them in a bring back against LA.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Talk to me.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I'm good. I don't like those guys at all.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Don't like those guys at all.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: The guy that I'd like is Nick Brad. Yeah.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Rank the Jaguars wide receivers in the order you like them.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Probably Washington, Thomas, Myers, but it's all fluid.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's any given Sunday for that. And
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: then lastly, the Colts wide receivers. Josh Downs works well
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: in the slot. Alec Pierce. I'm hearing nothing about Alec
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Pierce today. He's going to play. I don't even think
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: he was on the final injury report. It looks good.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they said he's going to be on a pitch
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: count today.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, they did say that. Okay, I did not hear that.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: If he's on a pitch count, what about $ 4, 700 Keenan Mitchell?
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Keenan Allen, yeah, definitely in play. Why not?
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Keenan Mitchell, yeah. Yeah, Keenan Allen, yeah. Working there in
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: the slot for Dimes, yeah. So you have any love
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: for Alec Pierce, or if he's on a pitch count,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: you're not getting to any of them?
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not getting any of them personally.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Any other Flyers? I know you like Jacoby Lane a
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: little bit. Elijah Surratt and Devontae Walker for the Ravens
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: are both out, which I think that is pretty significant news.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: So now you have Flowers. You have your boy Jacoby Lane.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: We haven't gotten to tight ends yet, but you got
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: some Mark Andrews there. Any love for any of these?
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: I'll call on value guys down here at the end
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: that we didn't really touch on.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mentioned Lane earlier. You were completely
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: against it. I think he's got a role on this slate. Like,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I don't love it, but he was another guy that
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: really impressed in camp. I think you could do worse
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: at 3,100. That's all I'll say.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, last thing, and then we'll get on. Devon Vele, 3,500
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: bucks on DraftKings. You know, this was one of those
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: that the pricing came out. Jordan Tyson gets hurt. Now
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: you got Devon Vele, who had some pretty good games
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: last year. sitting at 3,500 in a game that I
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: think is going to shoot out personally. But any love
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: for Devon Bailey for you?
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I think he's really popular. So, I mean, I get it.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not as high on that game as others are,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: so I'm not playing Bailey, but I get it. He's
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: too cheap. Okay.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to the tight end position.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: We're rocking and rolling through here. Appreciate each and every
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: one of you tuning in. All right, we're going position
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: by position. We're at the tight end position. Now Trey
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: McBride is going to be up there. Obviously, Michael Meyer.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: It's going to be up there. 2,900 bucks. He's only $ 4, 600
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: over on FanDuel. He's going to get tons of ownership
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: on both sides. In my opinion, we're showing 33 and
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: this says, this says 5%. I think it's higher than
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: on FanDuel, but definitely going to be popular. A lot
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: of double tight end builds and cash and GPPs. This
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: is a GPP show. We're talking about how you can
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: take down the Millie. So talk to me about this
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: tight end position. Who you got?
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, unfortunately for me, like, as far as the position goes,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: it's Meyer and Mayer, excuse me. I don't know why
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: I always do that. And McBride, those are the two
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: guys that I'm playing. If I'm playing one offs, et cetera,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: tight end. But I think almost anyone is live in
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: a stack. Juwan Johnson with Shuck, as you mentioned, or
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: with Goff, uh, you know, Colson Loveland, if you're playing Caleb,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. Uh, I'm personally playing a lot
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: of Mayer and a lot of McBride because I think
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: those two guys really stand out. But other guys within stacks,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I think they're wildly in play. But if I'm playing
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: a one-off, I mean, you're only not playing Mayer to
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: get different. Like that's the only reason in my opinion.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that take that you said. You mentioned
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Jawan Johnson. I got a bunch of Jawan Johnson. I
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: did the $ 5, you know, $ 1. 50. Over on FanDuel, I
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: doubled my exposure. I got 19.7% Jawan. I love Jawan
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: in that game. I've said it numerous times. I think
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: that game is a back-and-forth game. I think that's another
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: way to get different and try to take down that
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: melee when there's, I think there's what, like, I don't know, 600,000 people.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: So a lot of thousand people in there. So Jawan Johnson,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: I think is a great play on both sites, especially $ 5, 400.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: On FanDuel, Harold Fannin, who I wrote up over at
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: The Nation as well, You like Quinshawn Junkins. I think
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Harold Fannin's a great spot. They're going to be down.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: I think he's their quote unquote wide receiver one. Talk
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: about a lot of unknowns. Todd Munkin knows this guy
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: can play some football in the National Football League. Jaguars
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: give it up to the tight end as well. So
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: I like Harold Fannin in large field tournaments. Michael Meyer,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: we saw what he did last year when Brock Bowers
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: was out, had some pretty good games. Now he's got
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: a competent quarterback that can get him the football around
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: the goal line and over the middle of the field. So, yeah,
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: so talk to me about Colston Loveland. I'm also really
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: high on Colston Loveland in season long and today as well.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I've got a bunch of Colston Loveland. Talk to me
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: a little bit about Colston Loveland and where you are
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: with that.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just playing him if I'm playing Caleb Williams, honestly, because, like,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I'm playing Mayer and I'm playing McBride if I'm not
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: playing a guy in my stack. So Loveland's just a
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: guy that's good, but I'm really only getting there if
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: I'm playing a stack for that game personally, you know,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: except if I'm playing, you know, if we're talking about
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: 150 setting, sure.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. What about the hometown kid, Harold Fannin? Am I
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: a little bit higher on him than you are, or
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: you don't have any interest in Fannin?
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that he's one of the
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: three main Browns you can get to. Judkins, Concepcion, Fannin.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I think those are the three guys. Yeah, I think
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: that those are the three that are going to get
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: peppered with targets. So any of them I'm good with.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: They all have really low floors.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: What about Kyle Pitts Sr.? I think the answer is
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: no to that since you're Team Bijon and you don't
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: like Drake. I'll mention two other guys, and I'll let
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: you talk about anybody. Dallas Goddard just signed a new contract,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: and I'll call him wide receiver too now. I like him.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: I think he had like 10 or 13 touchdowns. They
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: peppered him around the goal line last year. He had
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: a really good year last year. Talked to him about
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Dallas Goddard. Then I also want to hear about the
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: newly– The fresh off the ACL first game back, this
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: guy was an absolute stud before he got hurt. Tucker Kraft,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: another tough matchup. Maybe some– talk to me about those two,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Dallas Goddard or Tucker Kraft.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't have much to say about Goddard.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Kraft I like in that game, a game I think
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: points are in play that probably goes lower owned than
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: the two games we talked about earlier. So, Kraft I
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: think is really good. a little skeptical to go hard
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: because of the injury coming off. How hard are they
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: going to run him? But he's a main weapon for them.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I think he's got sneaky upside, so Kraft would be
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: my guy there. Yeah.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Yobi Trice, appreciate it. Saw you in the chat this
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: morning with the four kids, now dropping another 499. We
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: appreciate that. How does ownership look on tight ends below 4,000
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: and above 4,000? Well, if I pull this up over here,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: let's look at the ownership. I mean, Meyer's going to
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: come in the cream of the crop, almost 33%. Jawan
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Johnson's number two, followed up by Laporta, Colston, Loveland. So, yeah,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: so it's kind of spread out amongst the board once
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: you get after Meyer, and I think you can pretty
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: much get anybody. I wouldn't worry about ownership at the
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: tight end position, obviously, unless you're talking about Meyer. Matt,
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you feel differently, but if it's
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: strictly ownership, I think you don't need to worry about
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: it unless it's Meyer.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Agreed.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: All right, last tight end I want to talk about
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: as it pertains to the million. I think you might
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: like this. Maybe you will. Maybe you won't because I
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: know you like the game so much. But listen, I
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: like me some Mike Gasicki, the jizz kid. He's going
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: to gritty in the end zone. It's not going to
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: be Chase. It's not going to be Higgins. It's not
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: going to be Yossi Vash. Any love for Mike Gasicki?
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Can we agree on one thing today, Matt? Do you
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: have any Gasicki?
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: No. I mean, if you're playing stacks in that game, sure. But, no.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm trying to see how much I have.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: If you're trying to win the Millie, I just got
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: to have some Gasicki in case Joey B's the guy.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: I even have an Eric Allteam in there as well
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: with Joey B just to try to get that tight end.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: If he catches two tight ends and Joey B goes off,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: then I think you're looking good. Any other tight ends?
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't talk about K.Dot and Dalton Kincaid, Kohler Express,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: any of those guys down there that you want.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: To talk about? I think you brought up literally every
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: tight end, so no.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: I did not mention Darren Waller.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, again, another guy that– tight end is
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: so clear to me. It's Mayer and it's McBride. Anyone
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: else is fine in the stack, but why would you
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: play Waller over Mayer as a one-off?
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Why would you play Waller over what?
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Mayer as a one-off. I personally wouldn't.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't play Darren Waller.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: The only answer would be ownership. I don't know. And
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: that's kind of the answer for every other tight end,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: in my opinion. And if people are going to play
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: like that, then I just want more Mayer. Yeah. All right.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: That's fair.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Let's move on to the last position, defense. I love
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: defense today, Matt. I've already told you earlier in the
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: week some of my favorite Ds, but chip wins. Millie-type
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: winning defenses that are going to be on the winner
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I like the Browns at 2,100. Yeah, they'll
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: be popular. That's kind of it. I don't think they're
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: going to be too popular. The Jets are going to
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: be real popular. The Browns are eight-and-a-half-point dogs on the road.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think the Browns are popular. The Jets are
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: going to be popular. 2,500 is like one of the
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: slight favorites there. No one respects Tennessee. So I don't
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: think the Browns are popular personally at all. And at
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: that price, $ 2, 100, I think they're my favorite D. And
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: other than that, I don't have any strong takes on D.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Like the Jaguars against the Browns, yeah. I mean, Deshaun
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Watson is all kinds of horrible. So you tell me
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars, sure. But I don't really want to spend $ 1, 300
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: more on them when I can just play the Browns
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: in the same game. Again, the Browns, when healthy, have
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: one of the best defenses in football. They're pretty shallow,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: so when they get injuries, it's not going to last.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: But they got the reigning defensive player of the year, Swessinger.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: They traded Myles Garrett, but they got Jared Verse. They
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: got a top-five pick in Mason Graham. Malik Collins was
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: amazing before he got hurt last year. I'm high on
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: the Browns' defense. I think they keep them in this game,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: and at 2,100, they're a smash for me.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you're going to sneak them by anybody, though.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: We got them as the third. highest on team. And
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: like you said, I mean, those, those dudes that you
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: just mentioned are, are beast. Yeah. They lose Garrett, right.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: And that fake sack record he got. And then, but
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: everybody else on there is going to be dynamite. All right.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: So that you like the, you like the Browns, you
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: like the Jags jets and Titans are popping. As far
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: as ownership goes, Titans are going to be super popular
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: over on Fandle only at 3,200 bucks. Hey, for me,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Matt over on Fandle, I got a bunch of the cults.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: They're 3,200, same price. A tenth of the ownership, I think,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: the Colts. Fading the Titans, just a little switcheroo, dunkeroo,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: a little Tambo special. Give me some Colts in the
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Millie Maker over on Fandle instead of the Titans. I
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: would really love that because I'm pretty much out on
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: the Ravens offense outside of, say, Flowers. Any other defenses
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: that you want to touch on? Because I've got a
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: couple if you don't.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: I do not. Yeah.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: I'll give you mine. Bengals, you're not going to like that.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Bengals upgraded their offense. Sexy Dexy. It's going to get
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: busy today. Bowie Mafa, I think that's how you pronounce
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: his name. This defense got major, major uphauls. It's going
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: to make that secondary a whole lot better. Give me
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: some Bengals. I got the Bengals, Matt. Matt, I got
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: the Bengals in my juggernaut team, 333. 333, got the
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Bengals in there. They're going to be super low on.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Love me some Bengals. I hope Nate's not listening. I
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: got those Vikings as well. No running game. You got
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Brian Flores, and you got three wide receivers missing. That
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, at least today, aren't going to do
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: a very good job.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: I know running game.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: Marshawn Lloyd.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: So.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Who is that?
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, when's the last time a running back who
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: first off you're not even saying is bad. You're just
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: saying you don't know. So we know how this goes.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Like when's the last time that is like how dependent
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: a good running game is. You know, like. if Jay
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: had a real good running games with Jacobs, you don't
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: think they're going to have a good running game with
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: whoever they just plug in there.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Either.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: I left you speechless or frozen.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think, I think Jacobs was the difference.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: I don't, I mean, I think Lloyd, I mean, yeah,
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: somebody's internet connection is bad. I mean, I just think Lloyd,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, how many carries does he have in the NFL?
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Less than, I think less than 20, maybe less than 50, but,
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: I'm taking my chances on the Vikings D in that
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: home opener. Brian Flores is going to be flying all
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: around that field, sending guys. Jordan Love's not going to
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: know what to do with him. Just give me the
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Vikings defense. Hey, we're talking contrarian constructions. I got 15%
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: of those Vikings in that $ 5 milli. Hopefully take two
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: or three to the house. And, hey, we're at the
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: top of the house at the end of the night.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: You cut out a bunch, but I heard that you
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: like the Vikings.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Any other defenses, that'll do it. I want to– Yeah,
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: really like the Vikings. Give me your top contrarian stack
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: and who's going to be in that stack and who's
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: going to be on the winner at the end of
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: the night in these Millie contests.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Top contrarian stack. We will go with the team you
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: just were talking bad about. Give me the Packers. Jordan Love, Lloyd, Golden.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: All right, that's fair. Hey, hopefully you're right. If you're right,
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: then I'm not, and that's great. I'm going to go
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: with Tyler Shuck. I like the Saints. I like the
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Shuck train with Olave, Jawan Johnson, even that's some Etienne
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: in there. I think that over stacking that game, is
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: that it? That's it. All right, that'll do it for us. Hey,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: you still got 35 minutes before we lock. Appreciate each
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: and every one of you tuning in. We'll be here
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: each and every Sunday to go position by position for
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: my guy, Bellman. I'm Ham. We'll see you at the
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: top of the leaderboard tonight, and we'll see you back
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: at 6 p.m. when Nades and I break down the
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Sunday night show. Good luck tonight in those contests.