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Tarik Skubal is a Dodger! Where was everyone else? JJ Cooper joins · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: It's an me ft breaking news.
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Speaker 2: Scottie Brown along with Kevin Pillar and then JJ Cooper
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Speaker 2: joining us soon from Baseball America.
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Speaker 1: On the prospect side, well, KP.
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Speaker 2: The title of this live show and video is the
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Speaker 2: Rich Get Richer, and they do. The Los Angeles Dodgers badly,
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Speaker 2: badly needed a little bit more to get over the hump.
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Speaker 2: I'm being sarcastic. They pick up Trek Skouble. So what
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Speaker 2: do you think about this one? On the major league side,
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Speaker 2: and then we'll get to the ramifications around major League Baseball.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I initially I'm thinking about the ramifications
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Speaker 3: all these other teams that felt like they had an
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Speaker 3: opportunity to get them. And sure enough, the Dodgers are
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Speaker 3: the team that is willing to part way with some
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Speaker 3: of their prospects in order to get them. And you know,
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Speaker 3: the headline, the Ridge get Richer. The Dodgers do what
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Speaker 3: the Dodgers always do, and they seem to figure out
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Speaker 3: a way to go get the best player available on
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Speaker 3: the trade market. You know, they obviously have the ability
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Speaker 3: to go out in the offseason and get the best
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Speaker 3: free agent available too, because they're willing to spend money.
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Speaker 3: But you know, I have an interesting take on this,
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Speaker 3: and I know, Scott, we were just talking. You have
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Speaker 3: a little bit of an interesting take on this too.
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Speaker 3: But the Dodgers just seem to do everything a little
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Speaker 3: bit better than everyone else. You know. Obviously, they're a
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Speaker 3: team that has the best rhetoric on baseball. They're back
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Speaker 3: to back World Series champs, They're the by far the
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Speaker 3: favorite to win a third consecutive. They go out and
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Speaker 3: get the best player on the trade market, back to
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Speaker 3: back Cy Young Award winner TEK School. But this speaks
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Speaker 3: a lot about what the Dodgers do behind closed doors.
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Speaker 3: They have the best ability to have prospects that they're
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Speaker 3: willing to part ways with because they know that they
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Speaker 3: can draft and develop better than everyone else, and that
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Speaker 3: these guys potentially have the ability to be impact players
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Speaker 3: for the Detroit Tigers in the near future. But they'll
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Speaker 3: just keep replenishing. And I'm very interested too, because I
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Speaker 3: can't sit here and say that I'm an expert in
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Speaker 3: terms of prospects, and I could see the rankings, but
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Speaker 3: in terms of the talent that projectability. So I'm excited
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Speaker 3: to hear what JJ has to say on it. But
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Speaker 3: I am a little bit disappointed in a couple of
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Speaker 3: teams across the league that I felt like had an
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Speaker 3: opportunity to go out and get a guy like Trek Scooble,
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Speaker 3: the Milwaukee Brewers being one of them. I mean, you
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Speaker 3: have a once in a generation talent in the Myths,
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Speaker 3: and parrying a guy like Trek's Schooble with him would
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Speaker 3: have been so exciting for baseball. It'd have been so
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Speaker 3: exciting for Milwaukee Brewers fans, and I think it would
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Speaker 3: have really kind of changed the balance in baseball potentially.
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Speaker 3: I know, the Dodgers probably still would have been the
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Speaker 3: favorite to win the World Series, but adding a guy
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Speaker 3: like Trek Scooble to a rotation with the miz would
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Speaker 3: have dramatically changed that. I think about a team like
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Speaker 3: the Atlanta Braves. You've got a future Hall of Famer
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Speaker 3: and Chris Sale, a team that's desperately needing another guy
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Speaker 3: to go along side with Chris Sale. I think they
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Speaker 3: missed an opportunity to go out there. The Tampa bay Rays.
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Speaker 3: You know a team that every year is kind of undervalued,
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Speaker 3: underappreciate it, and they have an opportunity. You know, once again,
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Speaker 3: you know a team that's in first place in the division.
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Speaker 3: It would have been great to see them kind of
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Speaker 3: throw in a couple prospects, you know, go all in
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Speaker 3: and try to win a World Series because they have
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Speaker 3: a team to do it this year.
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Speaker 1: Yea.
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Speaker 2: And going with the Brewers, for example, a team that
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Speaker 2: I think some were hoping to see finally push them
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Speaker 2: Chips in last year, they did just about nothing at
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Speaker 2: the trade deadline despite winning. I think it was ninety
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Speaker 2: seven games, most in baseball, and it clearly showed when
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Speaker 2: you got deeper into the postseason. And some teams are
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Speaker 2: dealing with weaker farm systems. The Brewers have I think
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Speaker 2: pretty consensus a top three farm systems. So you're looking
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Speaker 2: around like this is fishy. What's going on? The Dodgers
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Speaker 2: give up. According to Baseball America, their number six, number nine,
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Speaker 2: and number twenty seven prospects. Two of these guys were
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Speaker 2: eleventh round picks. The other was a ninety fifth overall
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Speaker 2: pick in the third round. Right, these are the Blue Chippers.
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Speaker 2: Zeyer Hope could be a very good player. He's definitely
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Speaker 2: like a high risk, high reward type. But the Brewers
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Speaker 2: easily easily could have beaten this package and still had
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Speaker 2: plenty of room despair. None of these three players in
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Speaker 2: the Dodgers system really had a pathway to immediate playing time.
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Speaker 2: You can make a case for the pitching injuries and
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Speaker 2: guys like River Ryan and Brady Smith eventually emerging there.
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Speaker 2: But let's go to the Dodgers side for a moment,
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Speaker 2: KP and how dominant they've been given that the rest
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Speaker 2: of the league is eerily chilling right now during these moments,
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Speaker 2: Yamamoto Scooble Otani if he's feeling good on the mound,
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Speaker 2: Oh wait, Glass, now Snell, that's what your five could
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Speaker 2: look like in October. And then there's depth on top
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Speaker 2: of that, Roki Sazaki, who you would think will be
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Speaker 2: in the bullpen like he was last year in October
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Speaker 2: for the Dodgers. Justin Robleski is an All Star this year.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't really have a spot if the other five
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Speaker 2: are healthy. When I say doesn't have a spot, doesn't
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Speaker 2: have a starting spot on a playoff rotation. Same with
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Speaker 2: em She, same with Eric Lauer. This is stupid depth
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Speaker 2: right now, and KP. I mean Snell and Glass now
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Speaker 2: missed most of the year, or Tani's not pitching at
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Speaker 2: the moment. It gives them some very nice insurance options too.
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Speaker 3: It's crazy because we're talking about an All star, you know,
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Speaker 3: not having a place in a rotation. He's kind of
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Speaker 3: been a little bit of their unsung hero this year
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Speaker 3: with all the injuries, Blake Snell being out and Tyler
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Speaker 3: Glassnell being now. But in addition to that, with those
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Speaker 3: guys not pitching at all this year, they're getting the
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Speaker 3: freshest version of Tyler Glassnow and Blake Snow when they
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Speaker 3: eventually do return to this rotation. The thing I find
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Speaker 3: amazing though, is how the Dodgers are able to, you know,
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Speaker 3: acquire a guy like Trek Scuble, but not really subtract
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Speaker 3: from their major league roster. You know, you would have
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Speaker 3: thought at the very least, you know, and Emmett Sheehan
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Speaker 3: would have been going back in return and kind of
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Speaker 3: really filed that, you know, spot in the rotation for
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Speaker 3: the Detroit Tigers, not only for this year, but you know,
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Speaker 3: for many years to come. It it is, it's a
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Speaker 3: bit amazing, how you know it. I don't know if
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Speaker 3: it speaks so much about the uncertainty of the future
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Speaker 3: next year and if there's gonna be a lockout, and
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Speaker 3: how teams are kind of valuing, you know, a rental
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Speaker 3: and what they kind of want in return. But it's
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Speaker 3: very interesting that the Tigers couldn't get more or at
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Speaker 3: least getting a major league talent, a major league ready
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Speaker 3: talent like Emtt Sheehan, you know, or Roki Sasaki someone
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Speaker 3: along those lines. Yeah, I mean, I know you kind
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Speaker 3: of have your thoughts and your theories on it too,
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Speaker 3: And like I said, I'm a bit interested to hear,
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Speaker 3: you know, what JJ has to say in terms of,
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Speaker 3: you know, what potentially were some of the other you know,
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Speaker 3: you know, alleged packages out there from other teams, What
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Speaker 3: were the Dodgers not willing to get rid of, what
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Speaker 3: were the Brewers not willing to get rid of? And
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Speaker 3: then you know, there was also another trade yesterday and
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Speaker 3: to me not really knowing like the prospects, you know,
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Speaker 3: did the Mariners potentially get more a better return for
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Speaker 3: a guy like Luis Castillo? You know, these are things
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Speaker 3: that you know, me not knowing the farm systems as well,
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Speaker 3: someone like JJ, I'm very interested to hear.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they did get one big prospect in that one,
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Speaker 2: which we'll talk to JJ about too, But just to
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Speaker 2: play off what you're saying, we'll bring in JJ in
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Speaker 2: one minute. Logan Henderson is a guy who could slot
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Speaker 2: pretty much right away into a rotation for the Tigers
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Speaker 2: and make an impact. You wonder if he was dangled
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Speaker 2: by the Brewers or if they were kind of trying
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Speaker 2: to give up lower end prospects on their end. Also
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Speaker 2: considering that for Milwaukee, guys seven, eight, nine, ten, example
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Speaker 2: in their system are two, three, four, five and many
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Speaker 2: other systems. Again, we'll talk to JJ about that. So
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Speaker 2: I'll just I'll finish with my theory for now.
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Speaker 1: KP. This one is weird.
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Speaker 2: You had heard basically the whole way through that the
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Speaker 2: Dodgers were the favorite, even though the Dodgers were downplaying it,
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Speaker 2: and you were like, all right, if the Dodgers end
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Speaker 2: up with him, they're giving their top I don't know,
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Speaker 2: two out of five prospects something like that, and the
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Speaker 2: rest of the league just can't keep up, which is
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Speaker 2: its own issue because the top team that always picks
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Speaker 2: towards the end of the draft is still fleecing people
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Speaker 2: in trades. Zire Hope was a trade River Ryan was
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Speaker 2: a trade for Brett Batty. Am I saying that not
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Speaker 2: Brett Baty Michael Batty. Who's the Baty from the Padres
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, Michael whatever, one of the Baties in
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two is a River Ryan acquisition for them
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Speaker 2: that helps to make this trade KP For me, it's
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Speaker 2: weird how some teams have sit on the sidelines for
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Speaker 2: a big player like this.
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Speaker 1: It's weird.
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Speaker 2: It's eerie heading into a lockout year, and it feels
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Speaker 2: a little bit to me like, let the Dodgers get
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Speaker 2: this guy, Let the Dodgers win. It's just this is
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Speaker 2: not a money situation when it comes to a trade acquisition.
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Speaker 2: Trek School is not cheap, but any team can very
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Speaker 2: easily take him on and prof off Trek Schoobles selling
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Speaker 2: out a stadium for the next couple months and then beyond.
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Speaker 2: Here's a tweet from Travis Sauchik, who rights for MLB.
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Speaker 2: The Brewers are elite operators. They are incredibly rational. But
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Speaker 2: I am among those that argue this was a time
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Speaker 2: to be irrational. Flipping from Schooble mis top of your rotation,
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Speaker 2: you're most likely NLCS opponent throwing School two times at
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Speaker 2: you in a series is about as consequential a trade
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Speaker 2: deadline decision that exists. I'm totally with you, Travison. Again,
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Speaker 2: That's why I think this is weird. I really do.
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Speaker 2: I think some of the say, smaller market owners that
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Speaker 2: have to top end teams this year, who can keep
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Speaker 2: up with the Dodgers in a trade, they have the
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Speaker 2: prospects to make a trade them holding back at this
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Speaker 2: time seems weird. This is a rental, right, like you said, KP.
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Speaker 2: Even if you don't think next year is going to happen,
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Speaker 2: that's okay. This is only a two month guy, plus
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Speaker 2: the playoffs. Let's bring in JJ Cooper from Baseball America right.
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Speaker 1: Now, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
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Speaker 2: It's data dish presented by rap Sodo. All right, JJ,
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Speaker 2: let's get into this. Do you think it was weird
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Speaker 2: how their return looked or were you like yep? That
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Speaker 2: makes sense and nobody in the league could have touched this. No, okay,
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Speaker 2: the first part it makes sense. The second part, I
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Speaker 2: think absolutely other teams could have touched this. So when
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Speaker 2: you look at the parameters of this deal. I did
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Speaker 2: a piece last week where I studied seven times in
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Speaker 2: the twenty first century where a team traded what I
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Speaker 2: would describe as an absolute ace, like someone who Cy
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Speaker 2: Young winner or recently had been very high in cy
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Speaker 2: Young voting last year. Of a deal like the David
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Speaker 2: Price trade in twenty fifteen, like the Johnny Quato which
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Speaker 2: maybe is slightly less, but a Johnny Cuato trade to
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Speaker 2: the Royals, and you know the Max Scherzer trade in
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one.
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Speaker 4: You know, trades like that. And there is a strange
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Speaker 4: consistency to this. If you look at all of these trades,
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Speaker 4: I found seven of them, and what you end up
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Speaker 4: seeing is is it's a top twenty five to seventy
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Speaker 4: five prospect generally that goes in the deal. That's the headliner.
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Speaker 4: And then there's another guy usually who's kind of fringe
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Speaker 4: of the top hundred, maybe not a top hundred prospect,
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Speaker 4: usually not a top hundred prospect that would be because
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Speaker 4: of the here hope for our rankings would be the headliner.
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Speaker 4: River Ryan would be that next guy right who's not
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Speaker 4: far off the top hundred. If you want to make
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Speaker 4: a case from on the back of the hundred, I
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Speaker 4: get it. We can get into the other reasons where
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Speaker 4: we would not have him in the hundred. You know,
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Speaker 4: the injury, issy issues, the soon to turn twenty eight,
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Speaker 4: all that, and then it usually is one or two
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Speaker 4: guys kind of from much further back on a team
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Speaker 4: top thirty. That's what Brady Smith is here and Brady
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Speaker 4: Smith again in a dinner system. Brady Smith could absolutely
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Speaker 4: be a top fifteen, top twenty prospect. He's an intriguing
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Speaker 4: prep pitcher who also has an injury history but having
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Speaker 4: a very good Year's got a good fastball, good changeup,
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Speaker 4: So that's not an unusual deal for an ace like this.
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Speaker 4: To go back to what you were saying on the
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Speaker 4: second part, though, and go about what you guys were
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Speaker 4: talking about before this, I do think I do wonder
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Speaker 4: if the Brewers or you know, especially the Brewers are
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Speaker 4: going to rue the day of why didn't we end
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Speaker 4: up going a little bit beyond those parameters? And I
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Speaker 4: think the Brewers could potentially have done it in a
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Speaker 4: couple of creative ways if the Tigers were willing. Again
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Speaker 4: that's always a question, but if they were where it's like, okay,
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Speaker 4: look it may not match up to be the exact
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Speaker 4: same deals what you're the Dodgers are offering, but we
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Speaker 4: think that this is more would you be interested. And
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Speaker 4: that's where I just think the idea of having Miserowski
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Speaker 4: and Schooble facing the Dodgers in a best of seven series,
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Speaker 4: the opportunity for that, the possibilities of that really go
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Speaker 4: for it to me. Kind of do say, maybe you
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Speaker 4: want to go a little bit outside of your normal
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Speaker 4: comfort zone of what you're willing.
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Speaker 3: To do in a trade, And do you find it
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Speaker 3: interesting that the Dodgers didn't give any major league ready
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Speaker 3: talent back considering kind of the depth of the rotation
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Speaker 3: and was there any kind of untouchables in the Dodgers organization.
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Speaker 3: I'm sure the Tigers had asked for.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, to frame it that way, like, let's talk
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Speaker 4: about the untouchables. The Dodgers gave up their third best
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Speaker 4: outfielder on their Double A Tulsa team. Now, I don't
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Speaker 4: mean their third best outfield prospect. I mean if you
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Speaker 4: look at Tulsa and you say, okay, hose Way to Paula,
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Speaker 4: that's probably an untouchable. That's a top ten prospect in baseball.
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Speaker 4: And I would say the guy who's probably going to
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Speaker 4: be Taoscar Hernandez replace me. He's not a great defender,
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Speaker 4: but the guy can really hit young. And then we
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Speaker 4: got Mike Saroda again, another guy that they picked up
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Speaker 4: in a trade Jake got from the Reds a couple
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Speaker 4: of years ago. But Mike Sroda, who's had the historic
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Speaker 4: on Bay Street this year, is a more athletic, more
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Speaker 4: dynamic a center fielder as opposed to these other guys
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Speaker 4: were corners. And then the here Hope was the third
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Speaker 4: outfield prospect on the team now, so here Hope has
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Speaker 4: a very good chance to be a big league regular,
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Speaker 4: be a solid big league regular in the corner outfield spot,
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Speaker 4: but on that team. And then you say, okay, well
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Speaker 4: what ou outfield prospects? I would say that Eduardo Cantaro,
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Speaker 4: who's at level below these guys, is also a better
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Speaker 4: outfield prospect than Hope. We have Hope fifty five on
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Speaker 4: our top hundred. The Dodgers have an absurd number of
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Speaker 4: outfield prospects. To the second point though, that you're saying,
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Speaker 4: I also do think that I am a little surprised,
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Speaker 4: Like if you want proximity, I know a lot of
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Speaker 4: people are talking about she and I don't know if
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Speaker 4: MG Sheen's actually would have been the right fit here.
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Speaker 4: If I'm the Tigers because I met Sheian's a lot
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Speaker 4: closer to he'll be arbitration eligible next year. You've got
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Speaker 4: years of control there, but he's not having a great
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Speaker 4: year this year, and you're you're kind of looking at Okay,
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Speaker 4: you've got a window there, but your windows for him
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Speaker 4: is going to be twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine,
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Speaker 4: you know, and then you get into the twenty thirty,
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Speaker 4: it's like cook, he's going to be getting expensive and
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Speaker 4: then he's going to be hitting free agency. I'm not
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Speaker 4: saying that if you said, okay, is amit Sheian better
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Speaker 4: than justin Roboleeski? Maybe, but I would say, if I
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Speaker 4: want proximity, I would have probably been very intrigued by
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Speaker 4: Roboleski because he's a leftee who's less, you know, much
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Speaker 4: further away from free agency, further away from arbitration, and
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Speaker 4: is having a better year this year. Now you could say,
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Speaker 4: maybe it's not as sustainable. We think Sheen is going
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Speaker 4: to be a little bit better long term all that
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Speaker 4: I can buy, but those are in the same range
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Speaker 4: and robo Esqui is going to be cheaper and you're
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Speaker 4: going to have him for longer. But then if you say, okay,
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Speaker 4: but let's go down the prospect side. If I'm the Dodgers,
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Speaker 4: I'm happy to give up River Ryan as opposed to
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Speaker 4: Christians as a waita, because in Zaswita's case, I would
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Speaker 4: say that, you know, in Zaswita's case, I would say
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Speaker 4: that you're getting the similar type of upside, but someone
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Speaker 4: who's much younger, it's a little bit further away. But
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Speaker 4: in River Ryan's case, you're talking about guy and we
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Speaker 4: can talk about more. It's like, my concernive River Ryan
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Speaker 4: is this guy, and I always a two way player.
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Speaker 4: In college he was, he was an infielder who also
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Speaker 4: pitched out the pen. But he's been pitching since twenty
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Speaker 4: seventeen in college baseball and pro baseball. And he's thrown
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Speaker 4: sixty innings in a season once in his career, and
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Speaker 4: that's twenty seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one. You know,
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Speaker 4: just keep going up the list, and he's done it once,
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Speaker 4: and yes, there are injury issues there, but on top
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Speaker 4: of that, so you're talking about a guy who's going
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Speaker 4: to be a rookie, you know, going to be twenty
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Speaker 4: eight before he throws his first pitch, for the Tigers,
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Speaker 4: and next year, even if you put him in your rotation,
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Speaker 4: you're not going to feel comfortable saying he can go
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Speaker 4: out and give me one hundred and you know, fifty
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Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy innings because he's never done that
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Speaker 4: in his life life and he threw He's at thirty
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Speaker 4: six innings this year, he's at basically no innings last year,
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Speaker 4: no innings the year before that. You know, it is
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Speaker 4: a you've got a stretch here of time where you're
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Speaker 4: gonna have to kind of ramp him up even if
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Speaker 4: he's ready to go. Teams don't normally like to say, Okay,
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Speaker 4: this guy has not has thrown one hundred innings once
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Speaker 4: of his life, but we feel comfortable that we can
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Speaker 4: just throw him out there for one hundred and fifty
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Speaker 4: each of the next four years.
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Speaker 3: Can you compare kind of the return for Scooble to
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Speaker 3: what you had just saw with Luis Castillo? And in
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Speaker 3: some ways do you think that the Mariner's got a
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Speaker 3: better return now?
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Speaker 4: I would say this is a much better We're we're
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Speaker 4: gonna roll out our ranking the traded prospects today and
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Speaker 4: this is our number one and our number two prospect traded,
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Speaker 4: then Brady Smith will be in that kind of next tier,
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Speaker 4: but not too far down it What the Mariners got
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Speaker 4: back for one they only got one prospect, is we evaluate, right,
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Speaker 4: So they got they did get they got big leaguers,
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Speaker 4: but you know they got a Saranthey do Mingez. You know,
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Speaker 4: we all know kind of know what Sir Anthony Dimingus is.
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Speaker 4: And I think some of that is salary relief. Right
17:03
Speaker 4: He's on a two year, twenty million dollar deal, so
17:06
Speaker 4: by sending him back, you kind of clear some salary
17:09
Speaker 4: in this. And at this point Nolan Jones, I think
17:12
Speaker 4: again that's just not really that's kind of almost a
17:15
Speaker 4: window dressing part of this. Like Nolan Jones has had
17:19
Speaker 4: not trying to knock him, but he said one good
17:20
Speaker 4: year in the big leagues and that's now far enough
17:23
Speaker 4: from move. That's several years ago down with the Rockies
17:25
Speaker 4: traded to the Cleveland. It didn't hit for Cleveland, dropped
17:31
Speaker 4: off the forty man. That's how he was kind of
17:32
Speaker 4: moved into to the White Sox. And now I don't
17:35
Speaker 4: expect him to be kind of a part of the
17:37
Speaker 4: Mariner's plans over the rest of the season either. So
17:40
Speaker 4: really you're talking about one prospect, which is the catcher
17:43
Speaker 4: Boston Smith, who's intriguing. Now, that's a senior signed six
17:47
Speaker 4: rounder from a couple of years ago, already been moved
17:49
Speaker 4: twice because he was a Gnat who was then moved
17:52
Speaker 4: in the Curtis Mead trade, who then the Nats turned
17:54
Speaker 4: Curtis Mead into kind of lee early but goes to
17:58
Speaker 4: the White Sox. Has had a real good year, has
18:00
Speaker 4: had a dominant year, and had a dominant year by
18:03
Speaker 4: the way, he was a second team All American for
18:04
Speaker 4: US at right State in that senior season when he
18:07
Speaker 4: was a six round pick. So this guy has a
18:09
Speaker 4: track record Hitting's a really direct left handed stroke, you know,
18:13
Speaker 4: left handed swing, and knows what he wants to do.
18:16
Speaker 4: There's real pull power there. It's not like he's junior
18:18
Speaker 4: Camanaro can hit the ball out to all you know,
18:20
Speaker 4: all fields or anything. But if he gets a pitch,
18:22
Speaker 4: especially up and end, he knows how to yank it
18:24
Speaker 4: over the fence. There's real power there. And as a
18:27
Speaker 4: defender he has a chance like he does gotten better
18:31
Speaker 4: and better as a throat, you know, was his throwing.
18:33
Speaker 4: There's a quick exchange he's relatively accurate, so that part's good,
18:37
Speaker 4: and I would say he's a pretty good framer. The
18:39
Speaker 4: part that is this giant, kind of big question mark
18:42
Speaker 4: is he also, though, just takes pitches that are sometimes
18:45
Speaker 4: borderlined with runners on and they clank off his glove
18:48
Speaker 4: and they go to the backstop and you're like, okay,
18:50
Speaker 4: you've gotta you obviously have to cut that out. You can.
18:53
Speaker 4: It's one thing he's not great at blocking. But if
18:55
Speaker 4: a pitcher throws out, you know, a fifty five footer
18:58
Speaker 4: that ends up ten feet, you're right, Okay, if a
19:01
Speaker 4: pitcher throws a pitch that's just on the edge of
19:03
Speaker 4: the strike zone, you can't be failing to catch that.
19:07
Speaker 4: You have to catch it before you worry about framing it.
19:10
Speaker 4: Those kind of aspects are things where it could work
19:13
Speaker 4: for him, but there's still some risk. I think he's
19:15
Speaker 4: more of that. Is he in that same second tier
19:17
Speaker 4: of prospects behind the river Ryans, behind obviously the zero
19:21
Speaker 4: the hero Opes?
19:23
Speaker 3: All right, I got one final question for you now
19:25
Speaker 3: that Trek Scoop was off the board. And sometimes you
19:27
Speaker 3: may get a little bit of a discount if you're
19:29
Speaker 3: the team that jumps out early. Is this kind of
19:32
Speaker 3: the has the market been set for starting pitching or
19:34
Speaker 3: do you feel like some teams are going to get
19:36
Speaker 3: desperate and will kind of, you know, maybe go beyond
19:40
Speaker 3: that prospect package to maybe get a Kevin Gosman or
19:43
Speaker 3: a Shane Bieber, whoever these other kind of free agent
19:46
Speaker 3: picture rentals are going to be.
19:49
Speaker 4: I would say this has to set the market because
19:51
Speaker 4: if you end up paying more for Kevin Gossman, if
19:55
Speaker 4: you end up paying more for Casey Miz let's just
19:57
Speaker 4: take another example from the Tigers, then you would for
20:00
Speaker 4: Trek's Google. Then rightfully everyone should ask, well, what the
20:04
Speaker 4: hell are you doing? Because you know, if you're willing
20:07
Speaker 4: to go that like, oh that pitcher's off the board,
20:10
Speaker 4: we got to get someone else, then you should have
20:12
Speaker 4: been doing at the start, because like when we talk
20:14
Speaker 4: about these potential what the Brewers could have done here,
20:17
Speaker 4: what the Rays could have done? Like I don't think
20:20
Speaker 4: it's a perfect matchup, Like, but if the Brewers, if
20:23
Speaker 4: I'm the Brewers in this trade and you say, okay,
20:25
Speaker 4: look I don't want to trade Logan Henderson part of this.
20:28
Speaker 4: I get that Logan Henderson is a very good starter
20:30
Speaker 4: for me. Right now, and I'm expecting him to pitch
20:33
Speaker 4: in our rotation in the postseason, so I don't want
20:36
Speaker 4: to give him back. Well, what I'm doing to kind
20:38
Speaker 4: of what you know, what y'all were talking about before
20:40
Speaker 4: I came on. I'm saying, look, could I offer you
20:45
Speaker 4: quantity to outweigh if you really like River Ryan, I
20:49
Speaker 4: can give you a Bishop Letson, I can give you
20:51
Speaker 4: some arms that. Maybe I can give you a Brandon
20:54
Speaker 4: Sprote right like again, I can give you arms that
20:56
Speaker 4: maybe our next maybe you like as much as Ryan,
20:58
Speaker 4: maybe he's a you're under Okay, But what about if
21:02
Speaker 4: I said, instead of I'm going to give you as
21:03
Speaker 4: a here Hope type, I can give you Louise Paygnell
21:05
Speaker 4: or someone like that that you're going to consider equivalent.
21:08
Speaker 4: But what about if I can then give you a
21:10
Speaker 4: Josiah Ragsdale or an Andrew Fisher or a Blake Burke
21:14
Speaker 4: or a josh Adamcheski or we've got five guys in
21:18
Speaker 4: the DSL who are all really alluring. I can give
21:21
Speaker 4: you one of those in this deal, and so like,
21:24
Speaker 4: instead of it being you get these three guys, I'll
21:27
Speaker 4: give you five. Now, I'm not going to tell you
21:29
Speaker 4: that the number two maybe that your number two prospect
21:32
Speaker 4: you're getting back here is a little bit lower than
21:34
Speaker 4: what you're talking about miss Dodgers deal. But there is
21:37
Speaker 4: kind of also the law of numbers here, which is,
21:39
Speaker 4: if I get five of these guys, I'm going to
21:43
Speaker 4: have more chance that something blossoms out of this than
21:46
Speaker 4: if I get three. That's where I think that the Brewers,
21:49
Speaker 4: with their depth of their farm system and all, could
21:52
Speaker 4: have gotten kind of creative on this and maybe been
21:55
Speaker 4: able to fashion a deal that works for them and
21:57
Speaker 4: maybe works for the Tigers.
22:00
Speaker 2: So my last question, JJ, does it feel weird at
22:02
Speaker 2: all this whole situation? And I ask this because it's
22:05
Speaker 2: not like the industry is valuing trek Scouble too differently. Right,
22:08
Speaker 2: Sometimes we look at a player in a trade or
22:10
Speaker 2: signing and you're like, Eh, maybe the industry doesn't love him.
22:12
Speaker 2: The industry loves trek School, There's no doubt about that.
22:15
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty three, the Texas Rangers pick up Jordan Montgomery.
22:18
Speaker 2: The Diamondbacks are one of those teams that bid for him.
22:20
Speaker 2: He ends up being one of the difference makers in
22:22
Speaker 2: the Rangers winning a World Series. That is the point
22:25
Speaker 2: of us doing all of this right, So to me,
22:28
Speaker 2: it's a little bit confusing. I know we're picking on
22:30
Speaker 2: the Brewers, and I definitely think it's weird there. Do
22:33
Speaker 2: you think it's weird that any other teams weren't more involved.
22:35
Speaker 2: I know we don't know what the prospect offers were yet,
22:38
Speaker 2: but you can speak to this. Almost any team could
22:41
Speaker 2: have kept up with the Dodgers. Would they have had
22:43
Speaker 2: to make it hurt a little bit more based on
22:45
Speaker 2: maybe not having as much depth in their farm system. Yes,
22:49
Speaker 2: But the other three, four or five teams that we
22:51
Speaker 2: thought could have been in the mix for him could
22:53
Speaker 2: have come up with the package to do this.
22:55
Speaker 1: Do you agree or disagree?
22:56
Speaker 2: Even if it's not like, hey, let me go down
22:57
Speaker 2: the line of this player matching this player could have been. Hey,
23:00
Speaker 2: I mean, I know the Rays have THEO Gillan and
23:02
Speaker 2: that's a higher rated prospect than all of these guys.
23:05
Speaker 2: Cam Kimminiddi for the Braves. Get into what this could
23:07
Speaker 2: have looked like for other teams, because some people are like, oh,
23:10
Speaker 2: other teams couldn't do this.
23:11
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, they could.
23:13
Speaker 4: If you would. I did a piece at Baseball America
23:16
Speaker 4: on I think it was Thursday also for this, where
23:18
Speaker 4: I looked at six or seven teams potential packages for
23:23
Speaker 4: you know, for Scooble, and I would say I said
23:25
Speaker 4: in it like I laid it out like I'm expecting
23:27
Speaker 4: a bidding war at that time, and so I went
23:29
Speaker 4: kind of that what we said before. The parameters we
23:31
Speaker 4: normally see is one twenty five to seventy five prospect,
23:34
Speaker 4: one fringe of the top hundred, top ten prospect, and
23:36
Speaker 4: another top thirty or maybe two. I went little higher
23:38
Speaker 4: than that, and I could come to like six or
23:41
Speaker 4: seven teams that had no problem reaching that. Like if
23:44
Speaker 4: you say the Cubs, if the Cubs are willing to
23:46
Speaker 4: trade Josiah Ragsdale in this deal, who's a very intriguing hitter,
23:50
Speaker 4: you know, outfield corner, outfield prospect. He's I think every
23:53
Speaker 4: bit as interesting as the here Hope. Yes, that could
23:55
Speaker 4: be the cornerstone, and I could absolutely get you to
23:57
Speaker 4: a Cubs deal. If the Braves, I don't know if
24:00
Speaker 4: Eric Cartman would be available. If Eric Cartman's available, I'd
24:03
Speaker 4: say he's better as a prospect for this then see
24:05
Speaker 4: here Hope. That's another outfield prospect, true center fielder, dynamic,
24:09
Speaker 4: you know, power speed guy, little risk ear because it's
24:12
Speaker 4: a little further away, but not by much. Hia versus
24:15
Speaker 4: double a younger all that. Okay, that's the corner him
24:18
Speaker 4: and Ken Cam and Eddie we're talking about. Absolutely you
24:20
Speaker 4: can outdo what the what the Dodgers offered. We talked
24:24
Speaker 4: about the Brewers. I think the Rays there even without
24:26
Speaker 4: THEO Gillen, because you could say, hey, we'll give you
24:28
Speaker 4: Brody Hopkins and we can give you a catcher between
24:31
Speaker 4: Ken Bodon and Nathan Fluelling. We can give you you know,
24:35
Speaker 4: Tatan Gray is a very intriguing power prospect or Cooper
24:38
Speaker 4: Fleming and or like all these teams if they wanted to. Again,
24:43
Speaker 4: it depends on what the Tigers want. But I could
24:45
Speaker 4: say that all of these teams, even without talking touching
24:47
Speaker 4: into that the THEO Gillans of the world, these teams,
24:51
Speaker 4: even without getting for the Brewers into the Jesus Mideis
24:54
Speaker 4: of the world, they could get to a deal that
24:57
Speaker 4: is at least as good, if not better than the Dodgers.
25:00
Speaker 4: But to go back to your first point on this too,
25:03
Speaker 4: I think the other part of this is the Dodgers
25:08
Speaker 4: have this colid you know, Goliath here, this is this
25:13
Speaker 4: monolith that basically they know they could make this trade,
25:18
Speaker 4: and because of the way they do things and the
25:21
Speaker 4: resources they have, they don't have any worry that this trade.
25:26
Speaker 4: There's no scenario whereas the here Hope and River Ryan
25:29
Speaker 4: and Brady Smith them going away is in any way
25:33
Speaker 4: going to derail what the Dodgers are able to do
25:36
Speaker 4: for twenty seven, twenty twenty nine, thirty. If you said
25:40
Speaker 4: that Trek Scugle for some you know whatever reason, was
25:42
Speaker 4: unable to pitch for the Dodgers the rest of the season,
25:45
Speaker 4: if they just basically by acquiring him, just took him
25:48
Speaker 4: off the board for anyone else, that would still be like,
25:51
Speaker 4: the Dodgers are fine going forward because we just said
25:55
Speaker 4: they are still have more outfielders in Double A and
25:58
Speaker 4: beyond then we can possibly fit into their big league
26:01
Speaker 4: lineup over the next couple of years. Where this gets
26:04
Speaker 4: tougher for the other teams I think is the other teams,
26:07
Speaker 4: the Brewers and Rays of being prime examples of this.
26:11
Speaker 4: The Brewers, to their credit, just keep rolling along right
26:15
Speaker 4: like they have been a playoff contender now long enough
26:19
Speaker 4: that the guys who were kind of the surprise developments
26:23
Speaker 4: that were key to the kind of getting them into contention.
26:25
Speaker 4: The Freddie Peraltas, the Brandon Woodruffs, you know, the Devin Williams,
26:31
Speaker 4: all those guys, the Josh haters like they've been they're
26:35
Speaker 4: either gone or in Woodrof's case, they're hurt and they're
26:37
Speaker 4: still there. And why is that? Just because they're kind
26:41
Speaker 4: of one of those teams operating in the We never
26:44
Speaker 4: shove all in for this year. We always keep us competitive.
26:48
Speaker 4: We can be really good this year, and we can
26:50
Speaker 4: do it again next year. And it is true that
26:53
Speaker 4: a team like the Brewers is going to take the
26:56
Speaker 4: hit if they make a schoobl trade and it doesn't
26:59
Speaker 4: work out. As far as Schooble, the players they're giving
27:02
Speaker 4: up are going to take much more. Uh, it's going
27:05
Speaker 4: to hurt them much more over the next few years,
27:07
Speaker 4: even with all the prospect that they have. That it
27:09
Speaker 4: would the Dodgers, because they're obviously they're not going out
27:12
Speaker 4: there and saying, oh, is Kyle Tucker on the market, Great,
27:14
Speaker 4: we'll sign him. Oh, you know, is We'll just get
27:16
Speaker 4: the best free agent every year. They can't do that,
27:19
Speaker 4: so they're there. They look at it. I think as
27:21
Speaker 4: their opportunities are smaller.
27:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it, but at some point you got
27:26
Speaker 2: to push in. You're you're giving the practical answer. The
27:29
Speaker 2: fan response right now is like if not now when.
27:33
Speaker 4: So it's just like not disagree with that.
27:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're looking at a time period here where if
27:38
Speaker 2: we see the Brewers get dusted by the Dodgers and
27:40
Speaker 2: it's Schooble beating them in one or two of the games,
27:42
Speaker 2: they're going to be like, what are we doing here?
27:44
Speaker 2: Like what is the point of actually owning a team
27:46
Speaker 2: and doing all of this? But hey, good for the Dodgers.
27:49
Speaker 2: They keep capitalizing. They've done an awesome job building up prospects.
27:52
Speaker 1: JJ. Thanks so much for the time, appreciate it.
27:54
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you this week and I've actually talked
27:56
Speaker 2: to you Tomorro on the Trade Deadline Show at some point.
27:58
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Speaker 2: weekend on Fox. Mike Petrello said mildly surprised the Tigers
28:42
Speaker 2: made this move before last second, because they've been playing
28:45
Speaker 2: six hundred ball since June one. They have the third
28:47
Speaker 2: best run differential in the American League. They could be
28:49
Speaker 2: just two games out of the wild card with a
28:51
Speaker 2: win tomorrow.
28:51
Speaker 1: This was yesterday.
28:52
Speaker 2: They're two and a half hour right now, by the
28:53
Speaker 2: way KP and he mentioned how a playoff rotation of
28:56
Speaker 2: Tag Scoople Caseymi is having a good season, Troy, Who's
29:00
Speaker 2: I think, one of the top young pitchers in the
29:02
Speaker 2: sport not getting talked about, plus from Rivaldez would have
29:05
Speaker 2: been noisy. Do you think that the Tigers should have
29:09
Speaker 2: helped these guys or was this the right move to
29:11
Speaker 2: get a package for Trek Schouble before he leaves.
29:16
Speaker 3: Yes and yes, I don't know the answer. I mean,
29:19
Speaker 3: I think when you were in a position like the
29:21
Speaker 3: Tigers are in, you know, and they've been playing good
29:24
Speaker 3: baseball over the last couple of years, I know they
29:26
Speaker 3: didn't get off to a really good start, but they
29:28
Speaker 3: have been playing really good baseball. And when you go
29:31
Speaker 3: out and you go out and sign a guy like
29:34
Speaker 3: Framer to join Trekschubel, I think you owe it to yourself.
29:38
Speaker 3: I think you owe it to your team. I think
29:39
Speaker 3: you owe it to your city to kind of see
29:41
Speaker 3: it through the fact that they're two and a half back.
29:44
Speaker 3: And it's not like the American League has just kind
29:46
Speaker 3: of been dominated by a certain teams. You know, the
29:50
Speaker 3: Rays have kind of gone off to a good start
29:53
Speaker 3: and kind of kind of maintained it. The Yankees have
29:55
Speaker 3: kind of been up and down. Obviously, the Red Sox
29:57
Speaker 3: kind of came out of nowhere, but no one really
30:00
Speaker 3: in the American League is kind of running away with it,
30:03
Speaker 3: very similar to where the Dodgers are at. So I
30:05
Speaker 3: can see sides where, you know, if I'm you know,
30:09
Speaker 3: in position of power there, I'm kind of seeing it through.
30:12
Speaker 3: But you also do understand, you know, you you have
30:15
Speaker 3: a guy like Trek Scoogle maybe one time in your organization,
30:19
Speaker 3: and he has the ability to walk at the end
30:21
Speaker 3: of the year, and more than likely the Detroit Tigers
30:23
Speaker 3: are not going to resign them, So you do have
30:26
Speaker 3: the ability to capitalize and get a big return back
30:30
Speaker 3: and from what we've just learned, where what I just learned,
30:34
Speaker 3: you know, potentially they could have got a lot more
30:37
Speaker 3: I think from some other teams, or I think they
30:39
Speaker 3: probably could have got a lot more from the Dodgers.
30:41
Speaker 3: But it's a really tough position to be in. You know,
30:45
Speaker 3: I think if they would have been playing a little
30:47
Speaker 3: bit worse leading up to the deadline, I think it
30:50
Speaker 3: makes it a little bit easier decision to go out
30:52
Speaker 3: and say, hey, you know what, we rolled the dice,
30:55
Speaker 3: you know this offseason, you know when and who's who's
30:58
Speaker 3: to say what the package was this season? Trek Scoogle
31:01
Speaker 3: coming off of a back to back Cy Young pre
31:04
Speaker 3: kind of elbow surgery, did they have an opportunity to
31:07
Speaker 3: get more? You know, knowing that he could have been
31:10
Speaker 3: part of a new team for an entire year, you
31:13
Speaker 3: know the fact that he's going to join the Dodgers
31:14
Speaker 3: for two months maybe kind of shrinks that prospect package
31:18
Speaker 3: a little bit. But it's really tough because I don't
31:23
Speaker 3: think anyone's really running away with the American League. You know,
31:27
Speaker 3: obviously the Dodgers are the Dodgers. You got to ultimately
31:29
Speaker 3: get there too, and the Dodgers have to get there
31:31
Speaker 3: to play them. But the fact that you just gave
31:35
Speaker 3: them Trek Schoogle and say the Tigers don't do anything else,
31:38
Speaker 3: do they still kind of have depth in the rotation
31:41
Speaker 3: to still potentially go on a run, win the division,
31:44
Speaker 3: get a wild card. I don't know.
31:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be surprising though, to trade Schooble and
31:50
Speaker 2: then hold say Casey Mize. All right, let's bring up
31:53
Speaker 2: one more tweet. Cody Decker, very opinionated in the industry,
31:58
Speaker 2: nose ball said, confused, there are days left till deadline,
32:01
Speaker 2: no one tried to make a better offer. Makes me
32:02
Speaker 2: think perhaps some ownership team ownerships actually wanted this to
32:06
Speaker 2: happen for CBA narrative purposes.
32:08
Speaker 1: The last sentence he uses there, that's actually a fact.
32:12
Speaker 2: If ownership is united, right KP, and they want the
32:16
Speaker 2: sport to drastically change and create a cap and all
32:18
Speaker 2: of that, and that's cool, then this is what you're
32:21
Speaker 2: rooting for. You're rooting for the Dodgers to get every
32:23
Speaker 2: player to a level where it almost seems unfair, and
32:27
Speaker 2: then for them to cruise to a World Series title
32:29
Speaker 2: heading into a lockout year. Now, the interesting part gets
32:34
Speaker 2: to how much do they care. Did they care enough
32:37
Speaker 2: that everyone was like, yeah, we're not going to give
32:39
Speaker 2: our best offer for Tyrek Schooble. We'll let the Dodgers
32:43
Speaker 2: get him. We'll go for the next tier down, you know,
32:46
Speaker 2: we'll go for Robbie Ray or Freddie Perrault to somebody
32:49
Speaker 2: like that. We'll let the Dodgers get Schooble and make
32:52
Speaker 2: the biggest impact in the postseason. Hey, and we don't
32:54
Speaker 2: know what's going to happen, right, Dodgers could have this
32:57
Speaker 2: super monstars team and still get slaid the last two years.
33:01
Speaker 2: Two years ago, the Padres decided to hit for five seconds,
33:04
Speaker 2: they take down the Dodgers. Last year, I mean, you
33:06
Speaker 2: were at the World Series watching the Blue Jays inches
33:09
Speaker 2: away multiple times. Crazy crazy World Series. Miguel Rojas had
33:13
Speaker 2: to rescue them late. The Dodgers are putting themselves in
33:16
Speaker 2: a position to succeed. Things are going their way in
33:19
Speaker 2: the World Series, like we saw last year in a
33:21
Speaker 2: seven gamer that was absolutely an epic classic. But I
33:26
Speaker 2: agree with Cody on this one. It's not even just
33:29
Speaker 2: what are the actions that are being taken Any owner
33:31
Speaker 2: or at least most owners in baseball that all sit
33:34
Speaker 2: in a room together and say we're going to shut
33:36
Speaker 2: the sport down for a long period of time are
33:38
Speaker 2: looking for the Dodgers to be in this pedestal by themselves.
33:42
Speaker 2: That part is for sure. I mean, we're getting ads
33:44
Speaker 2: about salary caps like that. Stuff all makes sense. So
33:48
Speaker 2: do you think players feel weird about this or they
33:50
Speaker 2: don't care at all? Do you think players look around like,
33:52
Speaker 2: why couldn't my team make an offer that didn't even
33:56
Speaker 2: include a top five prospect in my system?
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Speaker 3: I definitely think there's certain players. There are certain players
34:02
Speaker 3: that are a little bit more kind of involved and
34:06
Speaker 3: kind of put on that fantasy GM hat and know
34:08
Speaker 3: their farm system a little bit better than most players.
34:11
Speaker 3: I personally wasn't a guy that knew all the prospects
34:15
Speaker 3: by name and like their rankings and stuff. But there
34:18
Speaker 3: were certain times where I'm like, I think we probably
34:20
Speaker 3: could have got that guy. So I think there's a
34:22
Speaker 3: lot of players that go or don't even really care
34:25
Speaker 3: what they have to give up. It's like, hey, we're
34:27
Speaker 3: in this, we want to win this. Why didn't my
34:30
Speaker 3: team go out regardless of who we had to give up?
34:33
Speaker 3: We have a great team here. Terrek Scuba would have
34:36
Speaker 3: put us over the top, would have made us, you know,
34:38
Speaker 3: potentially favorites to go out and win a World Series.
34:42
Speaker 3: So there's definitely people. My initial take though, and I
34:46
Speaker 3: know you have your kind of theories, and I don't
34:49
Speaker 3: think you're wrong. I don't think it's far off. But
34:51
Speaker 3: I think when I saw it on the Tigger last night,
34:53
Speaker 3: when I was watching the TV, my wife was sitting
34:55
Speaker 3: there and she doesn't really care, but I told her,
34:58
Speaker 3: I'm like, the best available player just went to the Dodgers,
35:02
Speaker 3: And I said, do you know, if they win the
35:03
Speaker 3: World Series, baseball is not happening next year? And she's like,
35:06
Speaker 3: what do you mean. I was trying to explain it
35:08
Speaker 3: to her a little bit. How deep that goes in
35:10
Speaker 3: terms of did every other owner in baseball want this
35:13
Speaker 3: to happen. I could make an argument for that too.
35:16
Speaker 3: I could totally understand it. But my initial take was,
35:19
Speaker 3: oh man, this is not great. That being said, every
35:23
Speaker 3: team had the opportunity to outbid the Dodgers, and I
35:26
Speaker 3: think that's where things get a little bit misunderstood. From
35:30
Speaker 3: a fans perspective. Everyone that isn't a Dodger fan is
35:34
Speaker 3: upset at the Dodgers for what they did, But every
35:37
Speaker 3: other team had the ability to go out and outbid
35:41
Speaker 3: the Dodgers for Tek Scougel's services. So there's not a
35:45
Speaker 3: lot of blame to be put on the Dodgers. I
35:47
Speaker 3: think there's a lot of blame to put on all
35:49
Speaker 3: the other teams in baseball. Ultimately, the Dodgers do what
35:51
Speaker 3: the Dodgers do. They go out, they want someone, They
35:54
Speaker 3: put a package together and potentially it was the best one.
35:57
Speaker 3: Or like you said, there is this something happening behind
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Speaker 3: closed doors, and this is gonna be the biggest talk.
36:03
Speaker 3: This is gonna be the biggest story for a long time.
36:05
Speaker 3: And god forbid, if the Dodgers go out and three
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Speaker 3: peete this year, it's gonna be a long time before
36:10
Speaker 3: we see baseball game.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I hope it's a fun, competitive postseason and we definitely
36:15
Speaker 2: have whatever you want to call it, an evil empire,
36:17
Speaker 2: a team that is so heavily favored right now based
36:21
Speaker 2: on this return props of the Dodgers. They're just operating
36:23
Speaker 2: at a different level because these are trades. This is
36:25
Speaker 2: not a money situation, and the fact that they have
36:27
Speaker 2: such a strong farm system makes you think, what are
36:31
Speaker 2: they doing well that some other teams like the Mets
36:34
Speaker 2: are not. Right, the Mets are not competing for a
36:36
Speaker 2: playoff bid this year, They're going to trade away ten guys.
36:39
Speaker 2: They're the next highest team in payroll. So clearly the
36:42
Speaker 2: Dodgers are just operating and firing on all cylinders right now. Hey,
36:46
Speaker 2: when it comes to the Tigers, like I mentioned, you
36:48
Speaker 2: can watch them next weekend to see if they have
36:50
Speaker 2: any players left, but they'll be talking all about what's
36:54
Speaker 2: going on with them. There's a number of games next
36:56
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37:36
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37:52
Speaker 2: way out a little promo about the trade deadline and
37:55
Speaker 2: coverage that you're about to see here on the FT
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Speaker 2: network on Monday live at one o'clock Eastern time. The
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Speaker 2: FT YouTube channel will be.
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Speaker 1: Streaming for about five hours. Kratz aj me.
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Speaker 2: We're going to be bringing on a ton of guests
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Speaker 2: to talk about the trades as they go down. Boden
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Speaker 2: Ken Nightingale Murray, and then people that are covering specific
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Speaker 2: teams to talk about package returns and who everyone gets.
38:19
Speaker 2: They'll be like thirty trades over the next twenty four
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Speaker 2: hours because almost nothing has happened from a quantity perspective.
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Speaker 1: KP.
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Speaker 2: Great stuff, and we'll talk to everyone else on Monday afternoon.
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Speaker 3: Sounds good, looking forward to it.