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Who Dis Foe with Ebone' · We Talk Back

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  Speaker 1: We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who
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  Speaker 2: What's up, y'all?
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  Speaker 1: Whose voice is that? Who the fuck was that? What's up, y'all?
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  Speaker 1: It's me, Samantha. And I fuck everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody wants to fuck granny's pussy. You remember that episode
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  Speaker 3: of Sex.
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  Speaker 1: And the Sex? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yo, that's the best character, man, Samantha. I'm good, y'all.
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  Speaker 3: We had a wonderful weekend, y'all. Just the podcast baddies
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  Speaker 3: link up. Okay, we did Poor Minds segment on their
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  Speaker 3: show in Charlotte this weekend, if you missed it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they had a live show this weekend in Charlotte,
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  Speaker 1: you guys, for Rich or for Poor 2. And we
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  Speaker 1: got to come out and do a segment with them,
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  Speaker 1: and then we hung out. It was so much fun.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so proud of them. I'm so happy for them.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait for us to start doing our live shows.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all coming to see us?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they coming. I'm summoning everybody. It's a summons. I'm
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  Speaker 3: summoning everybody. But y'all, okay, so y'all, that was Friday night.
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  Speaker 3: Saturday night, I couldn't move.
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  Speaker 2: I was bedridden, couch ridden. I don't know how many
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  Speaker 2: shots I took on Friday night. It was ridiculous. I'm embarrassed.
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  Speaker 1: It was a lot. I think I might have took
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  Speaker 1: 17 shots.
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  Speaker 2: I swear.
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  Speaker 3: They just kept coming. And I'm like, when is it
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  Speaker 3: going to stop? And it's like, Niggas like putting the
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  Speaker 3: shit to your face, damn near, like putting the little shot,
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  Speaker 3: little rack thing, like, to your face.
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  Speaker 1: Right. You know what? Saturday morning, I was up early,
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  Speaker 1: and I think I was still drunk. So I just
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  Speaker 1: poured another drink, not to keep the party going, but
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  Speaker 1: to not get sick. So the people whose section we
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  Speaker 1: were with, they all lived in my building. Yeah. So
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  Speaker 1: we went back to their place. Well, I went back
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  Speaker 1: to their place. It was a group of us. And
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  Speaker 1: it was a bunch of guys and me. And I
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  Speaker 1: cooked breakfast for everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 1: There was no train. It was just a bacon and eggs, bitch.
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  Speaker 1: And then I went back to my house and toast.
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  Speaker 1: I made everybody food. And I cracked jokes. Stand-up comedy hour.
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  Speaker 1: And then I came back home. So I ate. So
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  Speaker 1: that was the best thing I did. I ate before
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  Speaker 1: I went to bed. And then Saturday morning, I got
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  Speaker 1: up and poured me another drink. Because I had to
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  Speaker 1: go to work. So I didn't want to be hungover,
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  Speaker 1: sick or hungover. You know, the hair of the dog,
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  Speaker 1: that bitchy, you got to bite it back. So I
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  Speaker 1: bit it back and took my ass to work Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: But Saturday night, I was supposed to go to USC-UNC
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  Speaker 1: football game here in Charlotte. It was a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, damn. I missed that, too.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't go. I had a ticket and didn't make
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  Speaker 1: it because that's when I crashed after work Saturday night.
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  Speaker 3: Nah, man, that was terrible. And I feel like even Sunday,
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  Speaker 3: I was still kind of down bad. Like I keep
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  Speaker 3: saying this, like my body really does not process alcohol
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  Speaker 3: the same anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Like I can't really drink. It don't matter.
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  Speaker 3: And matter of fact, I don't drink Casamigos. That might
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  Speaker 3: be one of the things, right? Casamigos, I put that
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  Speaker 3: like right along with Patron now. Like it just makes
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  Speaker 3: me feel really bad. So I really just like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Don Julio is going to be a club tequila. Dog,
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  Speaker 3: I was through.
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  Speaker 2: I was done. But I hung out a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: On Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: And shit.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. That's all.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't do nothing.
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  Speaker 2: So we had a good time with the girls. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The poor mine ladies.
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  Speaker 1: The poor mine sisters. That was a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into Stupid Internet News.
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  Speaker 3: So a couple mentions. So Krishan Rock had her baby.
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  Speaker 3: She had the baby on live. She named her son Krishan.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: It's fitting.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, happy for them. Like her mom was
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  Speaker 2: on live crying, boohooing. Thank God. Thank you, God.
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  Speaker 3: When the baby came out, she was crying. It was
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  Speaker 3: a beautiful thing. I know a lot of people like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: why y'all sharing all your shit on the internet? They
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  Speaker 3: share their whole life already.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: What's the difference?
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: She should have got a check for it, though.
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  Speaker 1: She might have.
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  Speaker 2: Is Instagram paying? Is Instagram paying?
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  Speaker 1: She may have. We don't know. I hope so. Because
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  Speaker 1: what's the point if you're not getting paid to show
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  Speaker 1: all of that? But she has like over 300,000 people
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  Speaker 1: watching her.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I want that much energy concentrated
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  Speaker 3: on me while I'm bringing a whole life into this world.
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  Speaker 2: Like that's real.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of sacred to me. Like I want to
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  Speaker 3: do it in the house. I don't want no cameras.
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  Speaker 3: That shit is wild to me. That's how I look
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  Speaker 3: at it.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: And hopefully I can have enough money to have Erykah
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  Speaker 3: Badu as my doula by then.
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  Speaker 2: So I got white ball shit.
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  Speaker 3: Ain't having no kid if I don't have a baby
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  Speaker 3: by 41 it's over with okay let's be very very
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  Speaker 3: very clear like I gotta get pregnant in the next
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  Speaker 3: two years if I don't I just want a yacht
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  Speaker 3: a mansion in Barbados.
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  Speaker 1: You wouldn't and I'll.
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  Speaker 3: Buy me a kid I'll buy me a kid yes
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't I definitely want it's a lot of black
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  Speaker 3: kids in particular that are stuck yeah that are stuck
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  Speaker 3: in the system and we we side eye white people
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  Speaker 3: right when they walk around with black babies but why
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  Speaker 3: aren't we adopting our kids You know, so they don't
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  Speaker 3: get their crummy paws on them.
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  Speaker 1: Don't do that, because, you know, some women can give
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  Speaker 1: black babies a loving home. As long as they go
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  Speaker 1: to a loving home, I won't. I would prefer a
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  Speaker 1: black baby to be in a black home, but as
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  Speaker 1: long as they're in a home and not in a
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  Speaker 1: system that's loving, I'm okay with it.
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  Speaker 2: I might adopt a white baby.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so the next story. Okay. Let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: Erica Mena and Spice. I really want to talk about
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  Speaker 1: this because....
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  Speaker 2: Don't you ignore me!
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  Speaker 1: Moving right the fuck along. So Erica Mena got fired
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  Speaker 1: from Loving Hip Hop Atlanta after calling Spice, her past mate,
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  Speaker 1: a racial slur. And here we can say it. To
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  Speaker 1: call her a blue-headed monkey or some shit like that.
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  Speaker 1: Blue-haired monkey. And, you know, they aired it on the show.
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  Speaker 1: And then after they aired it on the show, you know,
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  Speaker 1: people expressed how they were offended by her saying that
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  Speaker 1: because she is not, in fact, a black woman. So
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  Speaker 1: what's her name? Mona, Mona, Mona Scott, Mona Scott King.
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  Speaker 1: She she said handled and fired Erica Mina for that
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  Speaker 1: racist slur.
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  Speaker 2: And that's only that's a yeah. The only fake part
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  Speaker 2: about that is that we know these things are prerecorded.
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  Speaker 3: Right? Y'all, Ben knows she said this wild shit. I
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  Speaker 3: also saw another post that said more is going to
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  Speaker 3: be unfolding in the next couple episodes.
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  Speaker 1: The next three episodes.
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  Speaker 3: Unless she's been fired and they're just now telling the
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  Speaker 3: world she's fired to keep playing with this thing. Like,
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  Speaker 3: the world, we're just now seeing this recording, but she
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  Speaker 3: been said the dumb shit.
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  Speaker 1: But it's not nice to call anybody a monkey. Erica
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  Speaker 1: Mina included. Spice included.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And the way she was trying to say it, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: She definitely was trying to say it to be disparaging.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but, you know, I could understand why. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: y'all just took it too far, both of y'all. Spice
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  Speaker 1: didn't have to bring up her relationship with her child
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  Speaker 1: because it had nothing to do with what they were
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  Speaker 1: talking about. You know, it had nothing to do with
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  Speaker 1: the conversation they had. And, you know, you're just doing
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  Speaker 1: it to be very hurtful. And this was someone who
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  Speaker 1: was watching Friends. Like, why would you go that low
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  Speaker 1: to someone that you considered a friend? You know, like,
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  Speaker 1: so I just figured, you know, you just got to
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  Speaker 1: choose wisely who you call a friend. Because that was
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  Speaker 1: harmful to that woman, you know? Maybe her relationship with
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  Speaker 1: her son isn't good. And they know that.
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  Speaker 2: And they're using it against her.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's ugly. That's ugly. You know?
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  Speaker 2: That was nasty.
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  Speaker 3: So the internet was like, oh, she shouldn't have talked
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  Speaker 3: about her kid.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 2: She didn't talk about the kid. She talked about your
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  Speaker 2: kid's parenting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: She talked about her parenting. So that hit her in
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  Speaker 3: a sore spot, especially if you know my ex-friend. And
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  Speaker 3: this is what we want to talk about later on, right?
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  Speaker 3: If you know, like, this is a vulnerable spot for me, like,
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  Speaker 3: what type of person are you to use that against me? So, yes,
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  Speaker 3: Spice was absolutely dead-ass fucking wrong. And Erica didn't have
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  Speaker 3: no real rebuttal for her.
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  Speaker 2: So she just went for appearance, aesthetics. Right, she didn't
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  Speaker 2: talk about her as a.
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  Speaker 1: Mom, because maybe Spice is. a better mom than her,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so she couldn't go to that space. So
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  Speaker 1: she talked about her appearance, you know, and I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I can't sit here and say that Erica said that
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  Speaker 1: Spice looked like she would have said that to any
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  Speaker 1: black woman that she was arguing with or wasn't specific
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  Speaker 1: to Spice.
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  Speaker 3: So several people, like somebody in particular, I saw Jessie Wu.
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  Speaker 3: Jessie Wu was saying that Erica has done this a
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  Speaker 3: lot of times. Like this is the first time that
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  Speaker 3: she's called somebody a racial slur. And I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if she's Puerto Rican or Dominican, but if she's Dominican,
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  Speaker 3: we already know how they feel about Haitians. And they
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  Speaker 3: share the same fucking island. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: Like those people don't consider themselves black, but they are.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: Y'all really are the blacks who got violated, actually.
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  Speaker 3: And they keep that running thing, the running racism within
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  Speaker 3: your same culture and same race.
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  Speaker 2: They keep it going.
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  Speaker 3: But it's more so colorism, I guess, is how people feel.
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  Speaker 3: It's not her really being racist. It's her being showing colorism. But,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think that Spice looks like a monkey, right?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think she looks like a monkey at all.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my heart goes out to both of these ladies.
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  Speaker 1: It's hurtful. I'm sure it's hurtful for Spice to be
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  Speaker 1: called a monkey because, you know, dark-skinned women... In this country,
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  Speaker 1: you have been labeled ugly things and made to feel
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  Speaker 1: not as beautiful as our light-skinned counterparts. So that's hurtful.
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  Speaker 1: So they were just going for the juggler, but with
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  Speaker 1: each other. And it's just ugly to see. Let's start
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  Speaker 1: loving each other more.
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  Speaker 3: And see, after something like that, how y'all be friends again?
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  Speaker 2: If y'all come to blows about some shit like that.
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  Speaker 2: How do you be friends again?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah you can't i remember like i remember an old
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  Speaker 3: friend of mine like that bitch Nah, never mind.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see the next topic. Let me not.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's real hurtful to hear some crazy shit
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  Speaker 3: from somebody you consider a friend because it's almost like, bitch,
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  Speaker 3: you always wanted to.
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  Speaker 2: Say that to me.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Bitch, you never liked me.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Because you would want to hurt me like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, get.
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  Speaker 1: So, moving right along, let's talk about Kanye and his
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  Speaker 1: ass album and both.
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  Speaker 2: This is so old. I've been seeing that pitch. I've
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  Speaker 2: been sending it out. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: When Charlamagne started playing with him and Donnell Rollins, now
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  Speaker 3: it's like all over the internet.
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  Speaker 2: But y'all ain't on Kanye's Instagram page?
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  Speaker 3: No. He got a little sneaky, creepy one that I
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  Speaker 3: be on. I've been seeing that, Boonki. I sent it
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  Speaker 3: to you like two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: He got a Finsta account?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's his name.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of like the letters are jumbled up, but
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  Speaker 3: it's his page. And then he has another one that's
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  Speaker 3: just Yeezy. Y-Z-Y-Y-Z-Y.
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  Speaker 1: I don't follow him. But it was so funny because
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  Speaker 1: I just don't. It's just not. I'll see whatever I
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  Speaker 1: need to see. I feel like I'll get it from
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  Speaker 1: the shade room or somewhere if it's interesting. But just
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  Speaker 1: to see his little booty out. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like David's having a good time. I would do it.
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  Speaker 2: It was so staged. Kanye got a problem. You hear me?
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  Speaker 1: You can make sure you're stuck in his dick right there.
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  Speaker 3: Dog, this is Kanye West on a boat in France
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  Speaker 3: or wherever they at.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, in France.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think she, there's other, there's other images, right?
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  Speaker 3: Where she is clearly like down and he's sitting up there.
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  Speaker 2: I know the bunkie out, but I just, I just
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  Speaker 2: can't get it in my head. Like, nigga, what? And
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  Speaker 2: when I saw it, I was like, yo, this nigga stripping.
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  Speaker 1: Why not get your dick sucked on a boat in
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  Speaker 1: the South of France? I would like. If I was
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  Speaker 1: with my nigga who was in South of France and
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  Speaker 1: he was like riding down a little lake or river
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  Speaker 1: or ravine or whatever the fuck that was, I'd be like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: pull your dick out real quick. Let me just give
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  Speaker 1: you a little taste.
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  Speaker 2: Let me lick it. Let me lick it. Let me
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  Speaker 2: lick the tip.
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  Speaker 1: It's not that hot. Have you been sweating?
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  Speaker 3: But listen, they're saying that Kanye and his wife getting
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  Speaker 3: freaky on a boat has backfired. Apparently, the owner of
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  Speaker 3: the boat company has now banned the couple from ever
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  Speaker 3: riding on their boats again after pictures went viral of
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  Speaker 3: the couple seemingly participating in sexual acts while riding through Venice, Italy.
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  Speaker 1: They ain't got the only boat company. Who cares? Right.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all ain't got the only boats.
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  Speaker 2: I would have been trying to take the pictures so
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  Speaker 2: I could sell them. Like, y'all slipping.
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  Speaker 1: Whoever got the pictures got some money for that, you know?
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  Speaker 1: You talking about if you was the driver? Well, the driver,
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  Speaker 1: those boats are small, so he got to focus on
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  Speaker 1: where he going. He can't be, like, looking back at
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  Speaker 1: nobody getting their dicks up.
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  Speaker 3: Kanye had one of his people take that picture, dog.
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  Speaker 3: Ain't no way this nigga just got his little brown
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  Speaker 3: booty out, like, sitting on.
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  Speaker 1: Ain't no way he wanted his butt cheeks to be
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  Speaker 1: out in no picture like that.
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  Speaker 2: But did you not see the other picture where his
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  Speaker 2: whole dick is out?
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  Speaker 1: No, send it.
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  Speaker 3: Not the whole dick, but it's like his whole, you
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  Speaker 3: can see his dickhead print in his pants.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, what is up with Kanye? What is this?
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  Speaker 3: You know, everybody be saying the nigga got cloned. I
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  Speaker 3: still feel Kanye's presence. Maybe they got him locked in
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  Speaker 3: a cellar somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: Who is saying this?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I have not heard that.
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  Speaker 3: The whole internet is a lot of people saying Kanye
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  Speaker 3: done got cloned, child. Let me find a damn picture.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like this girl, she don't never look safe
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  Speaker 1: in the eyes. She always look scared for her life
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  Speaker 1: to me. Like she's unsure about her life.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if she's a new handler. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what Kanye got going on, but I hope he
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  Speaker 3: come back.
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  Speaker 1: I want him to get with the sister.
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  Speaker 2: No, why we got to be saving niggas all the time?
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  Speaker 2: Why we got to bring niggas.
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  Speaker 1: Back to the light? I want Kanye to be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: excuse me, Mr. Rainey, I'm going to marry your daughter.
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  Speaker 1: Remember that? Like, that verse? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, nah, it's gone.
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  Speaker 1: I miss the old Kanye.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, okay, another way I look at it is like, no,
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  Speaker 3: he ain't saying much, but he's saying a lot. Like,
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  Speaker 3: Kanye just got his ass on the internet, dog. We
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  Speaker 3: haven't heard from him since last June, maybe. We haven't
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  Speaker 3: heard from Kanye in a very long time. He's been
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  Speaker 3: MIA since at least the beginning of this year, right?
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  Speaker 3: I'm grateful.
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  Speaker 2: No, I love Kanye.
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  Speaker 1: I love Kanye too, but I want to hear music.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear this shit. This shit is like.
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  Speaker 1: You know? I want to hear music. I want to
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: hear quality music. I don't want to see his bunkie out.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: As you say, bunkie. Big brown ass. With that long
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: moon cut down the middle.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: We ain't talk about Kanye Wynn no more. We ain't
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: talk about Kanye no more.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: We not going to talk about him no more this year.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: Unless he do something spectacular.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: He always does spectacular shit.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: I'm confused. Moving right along.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: Anyway.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Y'all, we'll be right back with our special guest from
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: the professional homegirl podcast, Ebony, y'all. We're going to talk
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: all things friendship, love, sex. So stay tuned. It's going
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: to be a good conversation, y'all.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: Y'all listen, we have a label meet on We Talk
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: Back today.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Death Row with these.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: 360 podcast deals. Y'all, we got artists formerly known as Ebony.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Okay. The professional homegirl.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. welcome to the
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: show I know I'm super excited finally we got you
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: finally I don't know if Tam shared this with AJ
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: but I reached out to the show in 2021 because
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I wanted to be a guest and so here we
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: are now which is like amazing so thank you once again.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Full circle moment I'm gonna be honest with you I
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: seen it I seen it I remember I remember no
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: no hold on I remember seeing you because when people
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: send messages like especially in a request box I'll go
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: in there sometimes just to see but I won't like
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: you know how you just do it and go but
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: I remember when Tam was like yeah she said she
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: messaged us before girl I remembered I'm sorry.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: No it'd be a lot of messages.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: I did though I remember seeing it but it'd be
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: a lot of messages a lot of especially in 2021
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: we just getting started should we do Trying to figure
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: shit out.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Well, listen. Yeah, we was fresh out the house. What
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: did you say? Not deny, but delay, but not deny.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: I said delay, but not deny. Amen. Amen. So here
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: we are. All right. Tell us how you became the
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: professional homegirl.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: So it's actually funny because a few years ago, before
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Charlamagne and everybody was talking about mental health, I had
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: my own mental health issues. So my grandmother at the time,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: which is so funny because today is her anniversary. And
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I just realized today because I was just like nonstop.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: But today is the day that my grandmother passed away.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: So when she passed away, I was just going through
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: like a really, you know, just that was my first
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: time ever experiencing death. And it was it was a
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: lot for me to go through. And I end up
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: going to therapy and I was talking to my therapist
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: about all the things that I was going through because
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I never experienced grief before. And, you know, she was
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: just giving me all the tools and things that I
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: needed to, like, get through on my journey. And I
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: started to realize, as I started to share my story
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: with everyone else that I was going through when it
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: came to losing my grandmother, you know, people started to
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: become open with me about some of the things that
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: they were going through. So I was like, well, you know,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I feel like it would be dope if I can
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: create a platform where women of color can be able
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: to come on and, you know, be ourselves and pop
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: their shit. And I feel like as being a professional homegirl,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: it is being your true authentic self that And I
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: feel like for so long, I show face. And I
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: feel like when I'm a little too like rah-rah, I'm
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: too passionate, then people say I'm aggressive. But then when
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I'm quiet and I'm chilling to myself, they think something wrong.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: So I feel like with Professional Homegirls, it's a place
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: to just truly be yourself. And that's how we came
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: to be.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: So you say women can be themselves, but your guests,
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: like they be having like the witness protection shit over
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: their face. So who are they? How do you find
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: a guest for your shows?
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Listen, I tried. Some of them episodes, baby, had me
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: clutching my pearls.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Like, this is a horror movie.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: You know what it is. Like, where we from, like,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, our community can be very judgmental, right? So
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I feel like when you hear people's backgrounds, the first,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: especially when you know who it is, you'll be like, oh,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: why Tam doing that? Why AJ doing that? But then
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: when you're hearing a story and you don't know who
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: it is and you hear from start to finish, it
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: makes you appreciate them more. And it also makes you
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: want to know more about them because you're like, damn,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: if this bitch can get through it, then I know
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I can get through my stuff. So I just feel
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: like with the whole anonymous part, it allows people to
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: share their story fully because I also feel like when
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: people know who you are, you hide bits and pieces
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: of your truth. And I think that shouldn't nobody shed
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: their truth from everybody else because you should live in
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: your truth. And then how do I find my guests?
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: A lot of my guests either be just like word
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: of mouth. I mean, sometimes I do like a lot
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: of research. So At first, it was like Instagram using hashtags.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: And the next thing you know, YouTube is my bag. Surprisingly,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: people really love sharing a business, especially if they think
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: that their stories can help someone.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: So I just feel like at this point, like if
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: you have a story, especially something that's really taboo within
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: our community, then I'm all for it. Because I feel
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: like I mean, some of the topics do can be triggering,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: but I feel like there is so much kiki in it.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: It's like Kiki wrapped up in the medicine. So it's like,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: to me, I don't think that none of the episodes,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: and maybe the only episodes that's been difficult for me
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: is stories that involve child abuse. But I feel like
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: for most of the stories, the shit be funny. It
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: be like, damn, you really got through that. And it
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: also just makes me feel like women, especially Black women,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: are just superheroes. I feel like we're on fire, and
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: there's nothing that we can do if we don't put
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: our mind to it. So when you're listening to these
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: traumatic stories, because a lot of them are like, it'll
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: be like, my uncle molested me and my mama every Thursday.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Your stories be really deep like that. How do you
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: handle listening to people's trauma like this every week? I
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: be smoking weed and drinking the whole episode. Well, I
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: think before I start with each episode, obviously I pray
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: because I want to make sure that you know, the
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: person trusts me with their story and also, you know,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: just protecting my energy because I don't want to, you know,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: go to sleep with this. But honestly, it's not hard
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: for me. Like, you know, I had a very traumatic
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: childhood and, you know, I was physically abused by my mother.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: So I just feel like I always just think of
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: things like, you know, Sometimes when I was going through
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of things that I was going through when
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I was younger, I really felt like I was the
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: only one going through it. So when I share stories, like,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: it's difficult to hear, but I can't even imagine experiencing it.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: And I feel like these stories, when people hear it,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: it gives people hope. Like, if they can go through
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: that and still be okay, I can go through what
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I'm going through and survive, too. Yeah. I can feel it. Absolutely. Absolutely.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: And I think all black women have that little stigma, right? Oh,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: we just be loud and going off for no reason.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: We just really be real passionate.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Right? Passionate. Facts.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I don't be tripping for real.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I be tripping sometimes.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: You know you be tripping when you got to ask
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: somebody to be tripping. Like, girl, you think I'm tripping?
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: That's not true. Because I be feeling like I need
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: you to understand where I'm coming from. Because I know
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: it's not making sense. And if it's not making sense
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: to me, then it can't make sense to everybody else
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: in this room. So I don't think I'd be tripping
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: all the time.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: No, I really don't think I'd be tripping, but I'm
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: going to still ask somebody to make sure that I'm
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: actually giving this other person the level of disrespect I
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: need to be giving them.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Like, am I tripping?
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: But the only thing is, when you tell a story
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and you're asking, am I tripping? It's only coming from
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: your perspective. So nine times out of 10, the person
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: who's listening to your story is going to say, no,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you're not tripping because they're only hearing really your side
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: of things. So it's pointless to even ask, honestly, are
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: you tripping?
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's pointless.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's pointless because like I always be saying,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: like there's perception, right?
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: And there's perspective.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: You get through life with good perspective where you can
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: see things down the middle, right? It's people's perception that
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: be having shit fucked up. That's why I don't like
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: that whole This is my truth. Because there is such
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: thing as absolute truth. Your truth could be a goddamn lie.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Do you see what I'm saying? When I ask, am
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: I tripping? Listen, I don't be telling half stories. I
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: tell stories exactly how it happens. You have the opportunity
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: to say, no, bitch, you fucked up. Because I'm never
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: going to lie. I'm never going to leave nothing out.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: It could be the way I perceived what happened, right?
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Why I'm asking. You think I'm tripping because this is
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: how I perceive. And I ask for clarity a lot.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Let me get some clarity to make sure I ain't tripping.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: I'll ask for clarity from the person I'm talking to, from.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: The home girl.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Home girl, let me get some clarity so I can
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: make sure I'm not tripping on you or somebody else.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: It's good. I don't think it's a.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: I don't like that perception and shit, man.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Your perception could be a fucking lie.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: But that applies to all of us, right?
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. No, absolutely.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: But there are some people that their perception just be
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: fucked up on everything. And it could be a general
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: census that this person could be a liar.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Or this person just be doing fucked up shit.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: It could be a general census.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Facts.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: So while you think you're going crazy, they doing this
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: shit to their fucking spouse.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Their mom.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: And everybody else. Their daddy. Yes.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Gaslighting everybody. Have you ever had a friend break up
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: with you, Ebonate? Like a homegirl, like y'all no longer friends?
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: But it was you that fucked it up? You know what?
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: If I'm being honest, and I'm not saying this because
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I don't want no friend back, but I will say that...
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: That's how I feel. Yeah, like if you're looking back,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously there's growth. And, you know, there's a
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: lot of work that was done for me to get
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: to this point. So why are you shaking your head, AJ? Oh,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I thought you were shaking your head.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. I agree with you a thousand percent.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Just like these niggas, a bitch can't spend a block
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: on me. Because I feel like at what point are
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: we grown women and falling out?
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Exactly.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Me and Tam, we be arguing and shit because we
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: have a business together.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: So our relationship is different.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: But I'm talking about friends that I had had for
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: a very long time and now we're no longer friends.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Them bitches cannot spin the block. Some of them do.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: They try because I didn't fuck it up.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Do you see what I'm saying?
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: My conscience is always.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Clear because with the four agreements, I do my best
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: every time in any situation.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I think with this one particular situation, I will say
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: that I don't think that I was in the fault.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I just didn't think, I don't think I just know
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: how to articulate what I was feeling because at that time,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: that's when I lost my grandmother. And, you know, with
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: me being a very passionate person and, you know, I'm
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: very vocal. I think that like a lot of times
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: people just in that particular friend mistake that for, you know,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: me just being aggressive, me being like, you know, a
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: certain way with her. And, I just think at that time, like,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: and that's why I'm so appreciative of the people that's
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: in my life now, because I think from where I
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: was at with that particular person to where I'm at now,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: those people gave me grace. So I think that grace
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: is very important when it comes to any type of relationship,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: because a lot of times people just don't fucking know.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: And then sometimes people aren't even considering what you could
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: possibly be going through.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Why do you think you're just tripping on them?
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: So speaking of grace, this is one of the things
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: me and Tam was talking about earlier, like friends versus
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: boyfriends or husbands, right? You know how you see this
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: shit on Instagram a lot. It's like posts saying like,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: y'all bitches throw your friend away after one disagreement, but
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: you give these niggas a thousand chances.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: A thousand fucking chances, right?
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: What are you thinking about that?
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Because I feel like women, I think people, period, men
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: put their friends on pedestals. Women put their friends on pedestals.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: you don't expect your friend to play in your face
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: like these niggas would. Like, we expect fuck shit out
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: of them, unfortunately.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Right? You know what?
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: So now if I got to keep compromising with my homegirl, like,
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: why are we arguing?
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: But they're just people, too, though. Your friends are just people,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: just like a man, though. Yeah, but I ain't letting no...
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I ain't letting my friend or my nigga play in
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: my face. Like, but I also feel like with my friends, like,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I've been friends with my friends for a very long time. Like,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: my oldest... best friend I've been friends with her since
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: we was 18 and I'm in my mid-30s so I
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: feel like what her like I do put her on
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: a higher pedestal because you know better like and you
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: know all you know all different sides of me now
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: with a nigga I might give him a little grace
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: because we still getting to know each other but I
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: do have my hard limits like you're not gonna disrespect
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: me or do certain things but when it comes to
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: my girlfriends like my sisters hell yeah it's hoes before bros.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: But what's some cut off shit for homegirls? Like what's
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: some shit you cut your homegirl off for?
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I'm really big on telling my business because I'm very
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: particular about who I tell what to. So I can
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: tell three people the same story in three different ways
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: because I know exactly if something was to come out,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I know where it came from.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: So telling your business you're gonna get cut off.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Well yeah I'm really big on that because I feel
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: like if we have a if we have a sisterhood
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: where if I come to you and I'm like confining
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: you with something that's really personal and then I hear
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you go back and tell the next bitch that's a
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: problem for me for me it would tell my business
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: it's just the manner in which it was told was
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: it told with malicious intent Because if you were drunk
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: and it's just a story that was relatable to somebody
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: else's story and it came out, I'm not cutting you
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: off for that. And if you apologize, like, that's a mistake.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: That's a mistake. But if you're doing it like, oh,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: let me tell you what, 10, how 10 fucked up. Like,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: you know, that's a problem to me, you know, when
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: it comes to friendship. What about you, AJ? Money.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: That's why I don't loan bitches no goddamn money.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, I done lost a couple.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: It cost me about $ 500 to get rid of a
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: bitch before.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Like, that's all it costs.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Because once you give somebody money and they don't give
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: it back, like, the friendship is tarnished. Because really what
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: I feel, y'all, the women who I was friends with
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: for a very, very long time and now are friends
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: with now, it still hurt my feelings.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: To this day.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: But what hurts my feelings even more is that these
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: bitches know intimate shit about me and they just still
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: walk around Earth like shit cool.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Like, I really want them to disappear a little bit.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Just this much.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: So nobody, you know, especially like in entertainment and we
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: doing what we doing. Like, some people know some real
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: deep shit about me. Like, and those be the people
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: that go to the tabloids.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Like, those are the people who telling your business to
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: blogs and shit like that in the future.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I don't like that.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: I don't like a bitch knobbing. my friend no more
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: and no shit about me.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: So you want to do that?
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't say that. You said that.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: You said disappear.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: I said go real far away and sleep there overnight.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Every night. Every night.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Do y'all feel like where y'all at? Has it been
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: hard for y'all to connect with other women? Oh, I
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: connect with women easily, but then I do hair every day.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: So part of my job is to connect with women.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: But I guess deal breaker money is not any money
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: I give you or loan you is money that I
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: can afford to lose. That's how I always treat money.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: That way we don't fall out behind it. So if
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I give you money, I want it back. Don't get
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: me wrong. But if I don't get it back, it's
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: because in my head it was already gone. And that's
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: how I treat money when it comes with friends. Now,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the conversation about like talking, telling my business, it just
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: depends on what your intention was with my business. You know,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I'll be mad at you for sharing, but if it
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: wasn't malicious, we still can be friends. The thing that's
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: a deal breaker for me is don't be fucking with
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: none of my niggas behind my back and I find out. Oh,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: that's obvious, though, no?
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: You own them niggas, them your niggas?
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: They belong to me, bitch, and you know it. If
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: you my friend, and I talked about this nigga to you,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: if I find out you fucking with him behind my back,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: that's a problem for me. That's deceitful. Don't do that. Oh,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I thought that was obvious.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Nah girl they be breaking the girlfriend rules okay.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: No some people that's okay you know I find that
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: with women of other races like white women they will
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: fuck with each other's husbands and boyfriends and still be
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: friends afterwards you know white people are different so I'm
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: not surprised.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah but me and Tammy gonna talk about it first
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: before or.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: After we done crossed paths we have crossed paths but
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: it ain't never been like oh no I'm going to
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: go grab a nigga behind your back type shit. Like,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: that's weak to me. Don't do that. Because a lot
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: of these niggas, I toss them to you, baby. You
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: don't got to do it behind my back.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Yo, I was going to say, wasn't y'all on somebody
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: else's show in the very beginning? I think it was you, Tam,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: saying how you- Girl, don't be bringing up old shit, Eboné.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: That was on that was on bringing idiots we was
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: talking about that motherfucking fastball I threw her ass right.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Quick girl we got uber meats coming in 2025 it.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Was covid I had anxiety I was lonely I needed
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: some male company, okay? Sue me.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: And I knew a nigga. I knew a real, real
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: good one.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: He was awesome. He was amazing, man.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Look, I want all our listeners to know this one
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: thing about me, bitch.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I know good dick. I'm just telling y'all. I know
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: good dick.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: He was a really good person, too. So, that was excellent.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: No, hold on, Ebony. Let me tell you about this
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: bitch now.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: This was supposed to be like a little, like super
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: sneaky link, even though we telling our business, right?
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Super.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Why are you cooking for the nigga the next day?
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Then you at his house and he cooking for her
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: the next day.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: He cook for me.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Like they was having slumber parties.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Tammy, you cook for that nigga one day in your
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: apartment too. I cook for me and.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: He came and had a plate. It just so happened
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: that I was cooking and he was hungry. So wait,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: how does that work? Could you wipe him up if
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: you wanted to? that wasn't in the plan that wasn't
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: in the no that might have.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Been your husband like you know you can't let your
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: homegirl be in the way of your husband like you
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: never know.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Right if it you know I didn't see that happening
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: it's just weird it'd be like the best man we
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: saying our vows and I got the image of Ashley
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: sucking his dick in my head while we saying our
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: vows it's weird yeah I don't want.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: That whatever.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: So no but it was good for what it was yeah.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: I know good dick so let me ask y'all this
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: um because i was talking to one of my home
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: girls and she's older a little older than us but
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: you know she's been married twice right and we had
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: like this whole back and forth one night because um.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I was saying like, if I knew.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Some shit about one of my close friends, like her
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: nigga cheating or her husband cheating on her, like I
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: might tell her depending on who it is.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: So if your friend is married, right?
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: And she's never like explained to you, like she's having
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: all these problems at her husband. Like everything is always,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: always seems so wonderful, you know, in their relationship, you
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: see him cheating. Are you, are you not going to
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: tell your best friend?
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Um, so I'm going to take a picture. Because I
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: feel like when you tell a bitch about her man,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: you need proof. Especially when it's her husband. And even
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: when it comes to my best friend, like, you know,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: bitches be like, my man, my man, my man. So
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I just want to make sure, like, hey, I seen
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: so-and-so doing this with so-and-so, and I got this picture,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: and do what you want with it. And I'm just
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: going to leave it at that. Because at the end
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: of the day, you never know what somebody got going
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: on with they nigga.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: I'm not telling shit. I mind my business, man. Yeah,
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: I'm going to mind my business. If my best friend
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: is traveling the world with her husband, they're doing all
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: the good shit together. I don't want to be the
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: person that breaks her heart because that's how women look like.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Look at it. She'll end up still going on and
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: staying with her husband.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: And now our friendship is a mess because I'm the
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: one that brought this dirty laundry to you.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: You're not even, we already talked about how men and women,
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: like friendships and relationships just differ and how we put
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: our friends on a pedestal.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: So it's easier to just discard your woman.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: You're not about to, I mean, discard your homegirl.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: You're not about to discard your whole husband.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: So no, I don't think, I don't think I'm telling.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: I don't think I'm telling until she come to me
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: crying about, oh damn, I can't.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Wait until she come crying about some shit.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: No, see, if it's my, when you say best, if
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: it's just a friend. I might turn my, and they're
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: super happy, I might turn the other cheek and mind
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: my business. But if it's my best friends, they gonna
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: hear about it because somebody gonna call because I jumped
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: on they husband. I jumped on they husband in public.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: They gonna be like, Tammy, I hear fucking your husband up.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: You need to come. Right. Right. Her husband see me
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: that I see him. Right. They gonna get a picture
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: of me on his ass because I don't play.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Like That might be what I'll do then. Confront him, right?
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: And give him the opportunity to tell on his damn self.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: He gonna have to tell. Like, that bitch, your bitch
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: friend Tammy jumped on me to pull my motherfucking dreadlocks out. Yeah, yeah.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Fuck you and them locks.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: And this bitchy wig. She next. Because I don't want
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: nobody to tell me. Yeah, my best friend, I would
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: be upset if my best friend didn't do something. You know?
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: So do y'all arbitrarily tell y'all friends when they being
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: a dumb bitch? Or y'all just smile and nod at
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: the stories?
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: No, I tell them.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: You know, because sometimes your friends just want you to listen, right?
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: And so you just keep hearing all this dumb bitch
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: shit over and over and over again. Like, at what
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: point do you be like, hey, bitch, you being a
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: dumb bitch?
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: You know, I feel like My best friends know me,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: so they know when I ask certain questions, they already
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: know I'm going with it. So I feel like I
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: don't need to tell you you being dumb because you
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: saying shit out loud and me asking you certain questions
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: is just letting you know that, come on now, this
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: shit is not adding up. But I also feel like
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: maybe this is just your season of being a dumb
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: bitch because we all been there and you got to learn.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Because I read that you be a dumb bitch while
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: you dating around being single, then be a dumb bitch
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: and you marry a hoe ass nigga. Right. No, we're
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: not discriminating. I like them reformed. Still, don't be a
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: hoe with me.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Unless that's just your relationship. I think I'm kind of
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: blunt and frank, so I'm going to tell you. But
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: then if I keep having to tell you, it gets
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: to a point where I'm not going to say nothing
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: else because then you are comfortable in this space and
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: then I'm just going to listen and wait for you
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: to learn your lesson. But I will be like, bitch,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: you're stupid. I will say it just like that. Bitch,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: you's dumb. Bitch, you better than me. If I start
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: telling you you better than me, that means you dumb.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: What do people say?
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: If you like it, I love it. Right, exactly.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: So one of my friends who I'm no longer friends with,
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: I remember I stopped talking to her because she was
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: like clearly being a dumb bitch and I just didn't
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: want to be associated with dumb bitch-ism.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Like she just was being had by a nigga and
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: I just couldn't stand by because there was nothing I
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: could tell her. to make her stop talking to this guy.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: And I'll never just be like, leave it, nigga. But
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: this nigga wasn't even like tangible.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: He was in prison. So I can't, exactly. So I
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: can't like, bitch, I'm trying to help you help you.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: And she just was gone.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: So I couldn't really have a relationship with her anymore
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: until that person was out the picture. And he would
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: actually tell her, don't tell me shit, because he knew
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: I had more sense than her.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Damn. So he's going to jail?
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Girl, that is a whole long ass story. Yes, he's
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: back in prison. And she helped put him there. Josh,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: you need to come on the show.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: If you're listening, bitch, yeah, I'm on here telling your
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: motherfucking business. We ain't friends. no more.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: But you need to come on Eboné' s show, The Professional Homegirl,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: so you can share your truth. Because I don't want
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: to hear the tea.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Girl, whole mess. That wasn't her man when she... He was...
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Let's go on. Child, let's go to break. We'll be
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: right back.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Let's pay some bills.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Do y'all think y'all make more friends now?
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Or was it easier in your 20s than 40s?
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Or is that better vetting process y'all have for friends nowadays?
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I think I make more friends now. But I think
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: that just has to do with me just knowing who
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I am and being confident. in myself because I feel
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: like when you're younger like you just be going through
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: shit you be thinking this person your friend but meanwhile
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: she be hating on you or like you know girls
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: can be weird and like jealousy is a real big
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: thing especially when people see the potential in you and
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: you don't see it in yourself so I feel like
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: right so I feel like now like and there's just
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: so many you know dope women out there that's just
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: doing amazing things that want to connect with other like-minded
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: women so I feel like now it's way easier than
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: what it was before For me, I think it's the
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: same amount of people, but it's just different on who
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I call friend. I don't use the term friend as
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: easily as I did when I was in my 20s.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I have created more boundaries, and I know how to
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: compartmentalize where people are in my life. So that's the
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: difference for me. Same amount of bitches coming here and here,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: come and go. But friend, I don't use that term
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: as loosely as I did when I was in my 20s.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: In my 20s, I meet a bitch in the motherfucking
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: bathroom of the club and like her fingernail polish and
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: we start talking and we friends, you know? It's not
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: the same, you know, once you get older. What about
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: for you?
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: I think some of your friends, like especially in your 20s,
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: come from like childhood, right? And then you have these
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: relationships with these people for so long because of time, right?
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: And they probably should have been expired, right?
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: So I feel like I've never not been able to
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: make friends then or now. I probably have more meaningful
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: relationships with the women that are in my life now.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: But I have some friends, like my friend Priscilla, we
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: celebrated her 40th birthday last week. We've been friends literally
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: since six and seven years old. Parents still live in
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: the same neighborhood. We've been friends for fucking ever. I
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: know her ass even when she get on my nerve
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: and vice versa. So that's a forever friend, but... I
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: don't think it's hard, bitch. I be stealing people friends. Like,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: I'm friends with people who are no longer friends with
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: the people I met them through. But I'm still friends
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: on both ends. This one like, fuck that bitch. She like,
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: fuck that bitch.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: And I'm in the middle like, I still love y'all
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: and I want all us to be in a room together.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: That's how my best friend is. So I had this
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: friend group that I was in from some of us
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: were friends as children and some of us met in college.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: But My best friend, Takiyah, is still friends with all
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: of us, and none of us are friends with each other.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: We're only friends with Takiyah, and it's the four of us.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Takiyah is the only sane one, is what I'm hearing.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: No. Takiyah is the best communicator out of all of us.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: That's what it is. She's not sane. No, we're all sane,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: but she's just the best communicator out of all of us.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: The rest of us, we'll fight fists. And I just
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: don't want to do that anymore. I'm done with the
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: fist-fighting era of my friendships. If it comes to physical,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: we can't. You're going to jail, first of all. If
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: you attack me, you're going to jail. And second of all.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: You have a fist-fighting friend? Oh, yeah.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Right. Yes.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: And then friends again?
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: After the fight?
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Nah, bitch. If I got to put hands on you,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: that's it.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we definitely fought. Well, we was younger. Yeah, we
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: definitely duke it out and then be friends again, but....
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: I never fought.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Not no more. I can't do that no more. You
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: ain't never fist fought your sister?
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: That's family. Like, of course.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: My friends are family. My friends are family. It's the
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: same type of dynamic.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, child.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm not about to be fighting a homegirl. Like, sisters,
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: y'all grew up, y'all know each other so crazy. Growing
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: up in the same house, just annoyed in the house together.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Mom ain't home.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Just like you only fought your sister living in the
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: same house y'all ain't never fought when y'all.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Got bigger but it was different I definitely tried to
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: get that ass and bitch I'm like bitch come in
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: a yard cause it's actually not enough room here for
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: us to.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Fight if you talk and be around a woman enough
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: at some page you gonna fist fight at some point
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: like when we were younger when we were younger yes our.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: 20s I never fist fought a friend ever ever if
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: it came to blows.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not fucking with.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: You no more. It's like my sister. It's like fighting
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: with my sister to me. I never really.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Fight my sisters like that. I mean, we fought, but not.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: It wasn't often, but it just has happened. You know? Nah,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I feel like if I have to put my hands
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: on one of my homegirls, because I feel like I
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: never fought a homegirl before. I feel like we came
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: close to it, but if I gotta put my hands
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: on you, I gotta walk away. Because I feel like
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: when I was a kid, yeah, we would fight. But
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: in your 20s fighting your friends?
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. In college?
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: I remember I threw up on one of my friends
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: and we got.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Into a fight.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: They ain't your friend, though. Are y'all still friends now?
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Thick as thieves. That's my nigga to the end. That's crazy.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: We were 19 years old, drunk. Both of us drunk.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: It's not just me drunk. We're both drunk. We fought.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: The next day, we cleaned the car out together. You know,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like... It wasn't that deep. I don't know.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: You guys are alcoholics.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: I got beat up. But let me tell you, I
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: got beat up because I was super wasted. Like, I
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: was drunk. I didn't even know the fight was coming.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: So.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: You caught your ass off guard. You probably was annoyed. No,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: that is true now.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: When somebody drunk and you not really that drunk, like,
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: a motherfucker gets so annoying.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: bitch leave me alone yeah.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: It was bad no i was on that bumpy face
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: yeah i would never put like at this age even
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: in my 30s if we get to the point where
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: we got to be physically violent to one another then
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: it's just a no-go we don't need to be friends.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Y'all know they have an app now for uh meeting
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: friends like the bumble app for relationships they have a
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: bumble friendship app now.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Women have, you know, some people, I won't say women,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: but people have hard times meeting women and making friendships.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Like I do hair and I have clients that I
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: know that are coming as much as they come just
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: to have somebody to talk to. It's not even about
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: their hair. Yeah. They just need a space where they
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: can come and talk and relax and be away from
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: their husband, their kids, and just sit with someone who's
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: not judging their story and leave feeling pretty. You know? So,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: and don't have nobody to talk to.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: We actually had a friendship coach on, remember? Her name
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: was Danielle. Danielle Jackson, I think it is, or something
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Danielle. Yeah, she was like a friendship coach. Female friendship coach.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: This was a while ago, though. But I think some
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: people do have tough times.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Making friends.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Making friends with people.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with that.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like everybody would be my damn friend I
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: know my mama said I ain't never met a stranger
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: before that was my problem so do you want to
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: get into relationships with like not women but with our
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: men let's talk about this are you paying half in
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: a relationship are you paying half the bills hell no Listen,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like I just had this conversation with my homegirl,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: her nigga. I feel like if I'm living with a
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: man and I'm from the South, like I was born
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: in New York. I was raised in the South. So
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: I'm very traditional. Like I'm very like passionate and aggressive.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Like I'm type alpha when it comes to like my
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: business and stuff. But when it comes to my relationship,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: I want to be submissive. I don't want to think.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I want to make sure that I'm with somebody that
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: can be able to be like, you know what? I
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: know he got it. So if I'm living with you,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: you need to pay this rent. I pay some little utilities.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: I make sure the food, the groceries done. I cook
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: a little meal, make sure the house is clean, but
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not splitting no, no major bills with no man. No.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: You might as well live by yourself at that point.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: I can't say that. No, I'm saying you might, if
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: you have to pay half the bills, like.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: You might as well.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Do that by yourself. Cause why am I going to
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: have it?
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Why am I cohabitating with a man who's like down
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: my neck about my paycheck? I remember, we remember this,
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: the fly, super fly lady from, ah, what's her name?
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: From iHeartRadio. Remember she was in Memphis? Oh yeah.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: I forgot her name. I can't remember her name though,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: but she was there. Yeah.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: So she was also at the live show and she
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: was saying how her first husband used.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: To be like, these bitches is paid. Like she's, you
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? She's well off.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: But she was like, her first husband would always be like, damn,
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: how much money we get today?
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Like he waited for her paycheck to come.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: And she said it was one of her male friends
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: that said, why uh basically told her she needs a
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: rich man one of her male friends said you need
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: a nigga with money like you can't stay married to
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: this person right so she actually like her husband now
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: she was like my husband don't even i make a
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: lot of money he don't care how.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Much money i make i don't pay no bills You
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying?
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: It's daddy calling us gold diggers, but we want to
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: dig our fucking gold for free.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Right now, the economy is kind of fucked up.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Kind of?
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: People are struggling, and that's not just women. That's men
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: and women. If you get with someone who's having a
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: hard time financially, you're not going to split the bills.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: If you love this person, I listen. Well, I think
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: people also... I think people need to also be realistic. Like,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: I feel like if you was in a situation and like,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: this is somebody you've been knowing since you was a child,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: y'all been through a lot of things together, then I
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: would probably, that's the exception to the rule. Cause y'all
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: trying to figure things out. Y'all both young, y'all trying
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: to get things going. I feel like as a woman,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: like a grown woman, and as much as I have
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: accomplished on my own, you have to add value to
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: my life. Like, cause if you're doing something and I
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: got to split it with you, then I might as
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: well just keep doing it myself.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then how are you supposed to... And men
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: know this, right? They just don't want to hear it
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: from women, right? So if you're a man, a full-grown
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: man who takes care of business, like, go talk to
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: your brethren and stop talking to us, right? Because they
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: just don't want to hear this from us, but all
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: men want to be able to provide. The frustration comes
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: when they can't, right? And so instead of recognizing it
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: and start problem-solving, because that's what a man is, a problem-solver, right?
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: Instead of doing that, they'll find fault with you to
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: justify why he can't provide. But all men want to
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: be able to provide.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I won't, right now, in this space, in this age,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I won't even sit here and pretend like I wouldn't
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: split the bills. But let me tell you why. Only
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: if I was with somebody who aspired to taking care
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: of everything, and he had a solid plan, and he
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: had a solid plan and solid goals, and we striving
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: toward that, yeah, let's split it. Let's get this money together, baby.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: It's not a problem. But I won't say that I'm
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: willing to that I'm not willing to do it because
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: that would that would be a lie. There was a
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: time where I'd be like, absolutely not. But in real life,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: everybody don't have it all the way figured out right away.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to like, you know, completely cancel
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: out a good man because he's not in a space
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: where he aspires to be.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: And I think that's where most women, that's where most
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: of us are at, right? We just want a man
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: to aspire to one day take care of his family completely.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: Nobody's asking you to have all shit together. My fucking
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: life be in shambles at the time, okay? I'm still
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: figuring it out, bitch. I be feeling 18 sometime. I
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: know I'm going to get to where I'm going. I
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: got a fucking plan, you know what I'm saying? And
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: I keep shit in fucking motion. That's all you look
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: for in a mate. So if you got your thing going,
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: I got my thing going on, let's attack these things, right? Yeah.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: But the ultimate goal, nigga, I want you to take
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: care of this thing. Yes, I want to be a housewife. Yes,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: that should be the goal.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: I agree there. I agree there. All right, so we
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: talked about telling our friends dumb bitches. I know you
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: listened to our show before, right? Mm-hmm. Do you have
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: a dumb bitch story that you want to share with us?
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: I know you came with one, Ebony. Do I have a...
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: So I haven't had... So I've been celibate for like,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: I lost count, but it's been like three, four years now.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: Bitch, why we ain't talk about that? Hold on, wait.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Save your dumbest story. Roll back that beautiful bean footage
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: real quick.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Like what?
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Listen. I need an extra pussy.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Can I have yours since you ain't using it?
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Child, please take mine so they can make sure it
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: still works, child.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: Knock the pussy out of order. Like, first of all, bitch,
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: when you hit us up, you should have said, my
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: name is Ebony and a bitch ain't fucking four years. Like,
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: that would have set their whole shit off.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: We like, what we gonna talk about?
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Alexa, play Broken Pussy by Issa Rae. No, all right.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: How did this start and how did it go so long?
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Tell us about that. All right, so three, four years ago,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: I was dating. I was doing my thing, right?
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Fucking is doing your thing. Go ahead, girl. Ebonate.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: I like to be in a male energy because I
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: feel like that allows me to really be my feminist self.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Because I'm a girly girl,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: but I feel like sometimes I'm always a real nigga.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I'm so aggressive and passionate. So I feel like when
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: I'm around a real nigga, I get soft and shit.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: And so I was outside doing my thing. And, you know,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: I was dealing with a few people. And, you know,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: at that time, everything was, like, in shambles. I didn't have,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: things were just, like, not working for me in my favor. And,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: you know, making a long story short, I just broke down.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: And I'm just like, damn, like, I'm really trying to, like,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: figure shit out. And, like, you know, the only family
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: I really have besides my close friends is my grandmother
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: who passed away. So I'm just like, yo, God, like,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: you know, what do I got to do to, like,
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: be able to like get to where I want to
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: get to in my career and just like, you know,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: be somewhat financially comfortable because I'm tired of fucking feeling
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: like I'm holding on by the thread. And, you know,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: I just made the decision of just like, you know what,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: if I was to give up sex, like you got
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: to make sure some things pop for me because I
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: want my own place. I want a nice place. I
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: want some money. Like I want my network deal. Like
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: I want all these things to come to fruition, but
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: you gotta, you gotta give me something. And I just
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: also feel like when I was having sex with these people,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, yo, why am I sharing my body
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: and all these other things about myself with these niggas?
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: And I don't feel safe with them. And it just
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: didn't make sense. And I feel like, you know, I've
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: been outside for a very long time. So I'm used
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: to like, you know, men taking me out, buying me
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: really nice things and like, you know, treating me the
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: way that I desire to be treated. But by the
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: time I'm done with them, I just felt empty. Like
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: I still feel like they didn't know the real me.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: And I feel like a lot of times when people
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: see you, especially when you're an attractive woman, people just
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: only see what you're trying to accomplish or they only
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: see the exterior. And I feel like a lot of
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: the people that I was messing with didn't even like
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: know things about me that you should have known. So,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: you know, I just was like, you know what? And
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: I didn't make no vow to God. Like, you know,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: I was having a conversation with God. I'm just like,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: you know, I ain't trying to wait to marriage. But,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm just trying to wait to a place
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: where by the time I do meet somebody and Like,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: I want it to be something that somebody I feel
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: safe with and somebody that, like, I really feel like
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: have a genuine like for me. Like, God forbid something
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: was to happen, I know I can call this nigga
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: up and it'll be a wrap. You know what I'm saying? So,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: right now, I've been, like, dating here and there, trying
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: to get back outside. But, I don't know. These niggas
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: are just trash. Don't say that. Don't say that. Don't
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: say that.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: You know, because there's a lot of good men out there.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: They just not cute. Like, I'm dead serious about that.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Niggas get mad at that, too. But we do, like,
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: women and men are both visual. Men are a little
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: bit more visual than us. But you're going to look
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: at the exterior first, right? To determine, like, what's what.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: And they just may not be attractive initially to you.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: And they may be good men.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Also saying, when you speak out loud that men are trash,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: that's all you're going to meet. You can't keep saying
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: that and expect to meet good men. You got to
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: say men are good. Men are the thing.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Like I've been manifesting, like, especially when I do my
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: deep prayers, I'm like, you know what? Cause I do
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: believe there are good men out there. I just feel
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: like the men that's been in my space, it just been,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: it's just not been what I want. And I also feel,
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: and it doesn't have anything to do with looks because
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: I feel like, I mean, for the most part, I
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: do want somebody that's attractive, but I feel like as
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: you get older, certain things don't matter. Like you just
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: really want a good person.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: For me. So, no, I agree. Like, I'm being very
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: careful with my words, but I just feel like the
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: men are just... It's hard. It's hard out here. I'm
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: not going to sit here and pretend like it's not hard.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Because they the prize now, honey. They the prize. Some
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: of them think they the prize. You know, and the
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: girl is already married.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: The tables have turned in a way, and it seems
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: like the men do think that they're the catch instead
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: of the woman now. But it's because, like, what is
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: it like? In Atlanta, what is it like? 14 to
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: 1 men? You know, men to women?
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Women to men? I don't like those.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Statistics because who controls them for one, right?
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: Men.
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: So why wouldn't we tell bitches, girl, you're going to
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: have to deal with us because there's too many of y'all.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: There's only a little bit of us so they can
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: have a pick of the litter for the rest of
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: their lives.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't they manipulate us in that way?
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: But it'll be looking like it, though. It'll be like
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: 17 bitches and it's like four niggas walking around. But
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: where are you at?
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: Where are you at?
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: Because I just saw a video on Instagram. I hate
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: that we missed this because I was in Atlanta for
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: Invest Fest.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: A girl did a video. She was like, y'all bitches
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: better be here next year. It's so many nice looking
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: men here.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: And if those are the type of men, you have
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: to put yourself where the type of.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: And you also have to be who you want to meet.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: Like, you can't be a damn two thinking you deserve
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: a 10 nigga, because there are men out here who
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: are 10s.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Do you deserve that?
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: No.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Know your holler level.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: I feel like one of the things I'm doing now,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: especially since I'm starting to get back out there and date,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: because I feel like since I haven't dated in so long,
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: I kind of, like, I know what I want, but
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I like. Like, I want to
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: just get out there and just, you know, see what's
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: going on.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Feel around.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: So I do feel like it's Right. So I do
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: feel like it is important to, like, if you want
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: a certain man, you got to be in a certain atmosphere.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Or if you want to have a man do certain things,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: you got to be where they be at. So I
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: have been, like, looking up different places to go to, like,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: just being strategic in my dating life. Because I feel like,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: you know, for me, like, I've been going so, like,
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: I sacrifice a lot for, you know, my career and
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: my goals and things of that nature. So I'm just like,
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: I need to put that same energy into, you know,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: being dating and my love life.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: You got to have a blueprint. You got to have
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: a plan.
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah my same friend i was talking about her she
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: has a daughter her daughter's like 26 years old and
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: she's like her daughter does she doesn't know of any
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: prospects her daughter has and she doesn't want her daughter
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: to be our age without a husband so she's like
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: girl this is something you had a plan like it's
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: a book called get getting to i do and i
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: forgot the author name of it the author name of
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: the author i started reading it or listening to it
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: on audible but it basically tells you the instruction guide
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: on how to get a husband essentially right the things
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: that you need to do and i just don't think
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: that we we for specifically black women we have never
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: been taught how to get a husband for real you
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: just go through all your life different relationships with a
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: bunch of people spending too much time in the wrong
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: places a lot of times.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: But then oftentimes our sons haven't been taught how to
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: be a husband by nobody either you know so And shit,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: oftentimes we're trying to fucking survive. So I feel like,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: you know, because I also feel like I have a
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: lot of my girlfriends, like, you know, we don't have children.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: I'm the only single one out of my girlfriend group. But,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: you know, it's just very unfortunate how society makes us
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: feel like we're less than a woman because we don't
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: have these things.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Not attached to a man, right? Or a child.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Exactly. And I feel like there is. Exactly. I feel
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: like there's more to life than just being attached to
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: a man. Like I would want to be, I would
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: love to have a man that loves me and I
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: love him unconditionally, but you know, it gotta make sense.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Like I don't want to just be with somebody for
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: the sake of it because then I'm back to where
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: I started, you know?
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: And if you ask a lot of women, yeah. And
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: if you, I think a lot, I think women are
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: okay with beans. We are, and we aren't right. Cause
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: we want, we definitely want somebody. We want a man.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: Do you necessarily need them?
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: So, I need one. I'm tired of being out here
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: by myself. I need one.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: I like being in relationships, too. I definitely like to
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: be with a man.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, girl. If you don't get no dick by January,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: I'm going to call you January 2024. Did you give
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: me that pussy name?
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: I'm going to fuck for you, Ebony. Ebony.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: By January. because Mike and I want to have some
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: sex and I just want like a nice juicy big
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: dick like yo I've been so horny lately like I've
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: been just looking at niggas dicks all day and one
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: this one white man he caught he caught me looking
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: at his dick and he just started smiling and I'm
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: like Jesus.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: Christ he might have just been all nuts some big
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: balls piled up right there.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: In the front it was a dick white man that's
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: how it was I was a white man. That's why
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: I was like, damn.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: You like white men? You like white men?
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: I dated white men before.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: How was that? It was fun.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: It was fun. I mean, I dated a certain type
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: of white man. So, yeah, it was a good time.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: I went through a phase where I just looked at
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: everybody's dicks. It was a problem. Like, I just looked
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: at every, if you was a man, I was like,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: I look at your face and then I look down
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: at your dick. And it didn't matter how old you were.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: It didn't, like, I mean, not a child, but a
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: grown man. If you was grown, I was looking at
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: your package. Yeah, just staring. Yeah, anywhere between 22 and 60, I.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Looked at that dick. I ain't gonna lie.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: I don't never not look at dick. I don't know
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: what y'all talking about, like, y'all stopped.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I just.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not in that space right now. I'm not in
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: that space. I'm not looking at dick. I don't even
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: want no dick right now.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: I still want to look.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: I'm in the space you were in three years ago,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: but not like that. I can't imagine. It probably going
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: to happen until October. But you know what? Regardless of
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: the time frame, I think that every woman should go
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: through a time period where they're not having sex. Because
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: I feel like You know, and I don't want to
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: say I'm celibate. I want to say that I'm sustaining
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: from sex because I feel like this has been the
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: most rewarding season ever because I feel like the best
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: thing you can do with God is to keep your word,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: not to get all religious or anything. And I feel like,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: you know, I receive a lot of great rewards for
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: holding my word when it comes to, you know, being very.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: Discipline.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Having a discipline. Yeah, so... I think every woman should
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: definitely go through this period when the time is right.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Cause when you know, you know, and you know, I
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: feel like you will learn a lot about yourself.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: Tam, how long, what's the longest you ever went without sex?
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: I got one year and maybe two, one year and
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: two months, maybe.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: So it's good. Um, it's been about, so when I
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: was in life period, so when my boyfriend was in
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: the military, he would be gone for six months. So
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: six months.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: But this time around, like, it's only been, like... What's today?
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: But it's been, like, at least two months. And I'm
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: thinking October, I'm going to fuck again. But I just
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: needed some, like, 90-day clarity, you know?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: I feel like we had a hotline. Somebody was going
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: to call in here and call you a fucking liar.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: Well, I do... Like, girl, I fucked you last Thursday.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: Mind your business. Just mind your business, nigga.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Nigga, why you breaking up old shit?
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: No, I was waiting for my ex to be sentenced
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: at the time. So, like, the feds broke us up, right? So,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: once that nigga got his sentence, I was like, fucking. Immediately,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: I found a nigga and was about to marry his ass.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: So, that was your one year?
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Listen, I need y'all to come on the show, man.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: I need your stories. I got some good.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Listen.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: I need to do another one. I definitely need to
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: do a fast from sex. The thing is that I'll
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: go just not having sex a lot and then I'll just...
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Just a little spirit at
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: a moment type shit.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: Do you masturbate every night?
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: Hell yeah.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah. I'm not masturbating. You're not masturbating? I'm not masturbating.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing nothing right now. I'm not smoking. I
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: wasn't drinking, but I'm like having champagne a little bit
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: here and there. I started drinking when Poor Minds came
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: to town and we went out with them. I had
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: a drink then and I'm having a drink now. Y'all
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: look so cute. Thank you. I'm not smoking. I'm not
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: having sex. I'm not masturbating. I'm not doing nothing right now.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: At least till October. What's the reason? I just don't
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: want to. I just don't want to. I just need
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: some clarity.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: Mental clarity, yeah.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: I could use a no dick thing, but I don't
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: even be having sex that often to be like, oh,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: I ain't going to have no sex.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: I wish somebody could call up right now because then
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: they would be like... Listen, AJ, bust a nut for me, child. Yeah,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: bust one for both of us tonight. Make a video
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: and send it to me.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: I be riding.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: Because I can watch, but I can't participate. So you
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: can watch and not get horny? Well, I haven't tried,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: so I don't know. But I'm just saying, if she
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: make a video, I'll watch and see what happens.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not beating off to you smashing, Tam. I swear
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: to God. Like, what the fuck? You nasty.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if I can do that.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, look at this bitch.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: Why not? Go, I'll be like, go.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: No, it's not the same. That is not the same.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: It's your coochie. It's your butt. I don't want to
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: see it.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: It's a good butt. It's a coochie. It's a problem.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: I will watch your video and then call you tomorrow like,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: so what are we talking about next week on the show?
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't even be like... Moving right along.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: Damn weirdo. Tell me a fucking sociopath, y'all.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: That's not fair. All right, listen. All right, tell us
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: your dumb bitch story.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Dumb bitch story?
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: You are so dumb.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: Because we've all been a dumb bitch at least.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: Once or twice.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: I was fucking this young nigga. And I don't know
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: what it is about young niggas, but they have the
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: best dick. And I just feel like, I think I
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: was low-key dickmatized. And I'm too, you know what it is?
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not too old to be dickmatized, but I'm too
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: old to be dickmatized by a young nigga.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: And I just find myself like this.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: You ain't got nothing but dick for you.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: He ain't got nothing but dick. Like, he's still trying
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: to figure shit out, whatever. And I'm talking about, like,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: his dick was so pretty. Like, as soon as I
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: saw it, my mouth was watering. And I just feel like, yeah, like,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: just thinking about it, just like, hmm. But I feel
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: like the dick was just so good. I was just
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: doing dumb shit. Like, you know, just doing things that
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: you know you don't want to do. Like, because we
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: used to live, like, right down the street from each other.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: And I don't know.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: What you used to be doing?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: Cleaning that nigga house she was cleaning that nigga house
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: I know she was bringing that nigga house cleaning that
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: mama house taking her.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: Lunch money I don't give no nigga no money I
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: do a lot of other shit.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: But I ain't giving no nigga no money you crossed
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: the line.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah that was uh uh But it was just like,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: you know, just cleaning his house or like helping him
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: with his business or just like.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: That's not dumb, bitch. I don't feel like that's a
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: dumb bitch thing to like be cleaning the house. No,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: it is because I feel like there's nothing wrong for
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: that when that's your man or you see some potential.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't see nothing in this nigga but dick.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: So I feel like for me... I.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: Feel like for me, like, nigga, we should just be fucking.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: I'm going home, but I'm helping you do this and
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: do that. Like, it's just And then it was so
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: weird because he had his housewarming party, and this girl
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: was over there. And mind you, they young. And he
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: said that that's his cousin, but I feel like they
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: was fucking. Probably.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: How young? Yeah.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: I think he was 25, 26. Oh, okay.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: That ain't too bad.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: That ain't too bad.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: Look at this bitch.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's young for me.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: That's just right for this bitch.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: I like grown men I like full adult.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: Men yeah yeah I wouldn't take 26 serious but I
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: would definitely fuck 26 yeah that was some good dick
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: though The last 26-year-old I fucked, he was trying to
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: have me look fucking like a wheelbarrow, have me in
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: plank position with my legs. I was like, nigga, I
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: am too old for this motherfucking shit.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Put my motherfucking leg on. Put auntie down.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: They got all the stamina. That was a long time ago.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: Y'all, you have to get the runners.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: If you want to get an older nigga, he got
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: to have real good cardio health.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: And he going to fuck you just like them young niggas.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: What's old?
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: At this point, I don't know what's old because I'll
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: date a 50-year-old.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: Hell no.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: I'm dating a 50-year-old.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: I like 47, 48, 49. I like early 40s, too.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: I like 40-year-old people. I'll just say that. I like
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: people in their 40s.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: At the 50s, I just don't want to see that
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: gray line around your pupil.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: That's how I know you old. Niggas deteriorating.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: You got cataracts.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: An old ass nigga trying to tell me he was
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: 45 once with that girl nigga you every bit of
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: 76 quit playing with me like yeah that gray line
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: around there looking like he going the.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: Oldest I've ever dealt with was 41 really no I
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: didn't say he was old I just said that was
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: the oldest I've dealt.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: With wow that's interesting no and that was recently.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: Like yeah like yeah that was recent shame on you
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: I think the oldest I dealt with was my 50
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: year old that was like one of my best relationships
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: like he was so much fun and he was fine
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: maybe I need to go ahead and give Willie Earl
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: a spin let me find me a Willie Earl and
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: see what they talking about.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: He gotta be fine though he gotta be like a
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: little zaddy okay 50 year old zaddy.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Nah he was a zaddy he gotta be like Idris
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Elba fine cause he like 50 right I would date
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: a man that looked like that, but I don't be
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: seeing them walking around.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: I be seeing some of them.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: Where? Outside.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: It might be somebody's husband, but I mean, it be outside.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like they're menning like they
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: used to. I have not seen no attractive man in
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: so long. No, I be seeing attractive men, but... Where? Charlotte,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: North Carolina. Maybe in the South, because they ain't.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: Up here in New York.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: New York men be fine, but they be kind of weird, man.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: They just so combative. Like, everything's a problem. Like, why
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: are we arguing and we haven't met in person yet?
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: What is happening? What is happening?
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: You know, I like the energy, though.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: You're toxic. You're holding that toxic pussy in a jar.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: I am. Right, jar it up. Yeah, I want to
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: be the first. Make a video. Send it. Be like, hey, guys.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: It's my first night.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: All right. Tell everybody where they can find all the things.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: Plug yourself.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: So you can follow me on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: at The Professional Homegirl. Also, if you want to kiki
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: about any of the episodes on the podcast, you can
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: follow me at the PhD podcast on Instagram. And that's
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: pretty much it. You can listen to the Professional Homegirl.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: New episode drops every Tuesday on Black Effect. Thank you
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: for joining us, Ebony. You're a great guest. We appreciate you.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: No, thank you for having me. And let us know
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: when we're coming on your show.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we want to come on your shit, too. Yes, please.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Give me some stories. Oh, you're going to have to
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: not only change your voice. Yeah, my voice and my face.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: It can't just be my face. It's got to be
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: the voice, too.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: Because I need these stories. I got some shit for
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: your ass, too. Because I need to know why DJ
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: Man went away for a year.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: Because he was slinging them thangs.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Look, you don't even got to blur her face. Just
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: selling her little drugs.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: Nothing serious. Little drugs, little slight work. That's whatever.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: They arrested that nigga and thought he was El Chapo
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: or somebody because they had his whole race down as Cuban.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: This is a nigga.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: He look Cuban though.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: That's why.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: And you know what? I want to also tell y'all congratulations.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: I feel like I've been following y'all since day one.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm just super proud of y'all. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: from where y'all was at to where y'all at, look
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  Speaker 1: at y'all smiling. I feel like from where y'all started
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  Speaker 1: to where y'all at now, y'all have definitely made a
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  Speaker 1: lot of progress. And I was so excited to see
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  Speaker 1: y'all in the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, girls, man.
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  Speaker 1: We appreciate that. Anytime somebody has accolades for me, I
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  Speaker 1: get to grinning real hard.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I love it. Thank you, Eboné. We got the
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  Speaker 2: professional audience.
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  Speaker 3: Home girl y'all tune into Eboné' s podcast again like I
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  Speaker 3: said she's on death row right along with us I'm
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  Speaker 3: just playing black effect execs slash homeboy anyway y'all if
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  Speaker 3: you enjoyed this episode tune in every Thursday on the
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  Speaker 3: this is your grade A bae AJ Holiday.
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  Speaker 2: AJ Holiday 2.0 I.
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  Speaker 1: Love y'all I love y'all. Thank y'all for tuning in
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  Speaker 1: once again. It's Official Tambam on Instagram. Y'all follow me, please.
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  Speaker 1: Thank y'all for tuning in once again. Remember, speak now.
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  Speaker 2: And never hold your peace.